Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601042]Another benefit of showing up early is daylight, I could really distinguish the pretty ones from the make up queens. I would've done another girl if time wasn't an issue, I finally got the hint how to work things out, in my case lay out what you want sometime during the early part of the conversation to set expectations, check for chemistry and requirements, make an offer, negotiate and score or move on to the next one. It took me 4 tries but I left pleased I finally got it.
[/QUOTE]We were discussing this. I think it is worth while to make a detour to the club at daytime. There are less number of girls but there are also less competitions. The girl quality is not bad and you can see everyone clearly because only a smaller area is open. If you don't see anything you like, leave then come back at night time.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601191]I spent 10 days in Brazil, 7 in SP and 3 in Rio. This was my first time in Brazil.

[b]Cell phone I used GoogleFi, and never had to bother looking for SIM card.[/b][/QUOTE]Nice report thanks for sharing! Good advice and solution to not hunting for SIM Cards.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2601206]Aren't you guys overpaying in scandallo?

Aren't website escorts cheaper?

I mean, 1200 reais or even more. Even if the real has great value, it's just overkill. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Based on my observation, I think the new standard price is 800 if you don't negotiate. When they quote higher, often you can still get many of them down to 800. Then you also have to factor in the girl has to pay the club to get in. I think the girls consider gringo a valuable commodity because some of them talk about inflation and how strong dollar is. Even if you don't approach them, some will approach you if you position yourself at the right place. I got several phone numbers a night simply sitting on the sofa and I did not even ask for the numbers. When Lalabo was sitting next to me, he was approached by 2 girls and I got none. Lesson learned, don't sit next to Lalabo when you want girl to approach you. They will do this because some want clients outside of the club. This is based on my limited experience.

In clinicas, you go in, pick a girl, fuck for an hour for a fixed rate but you don't socialize with the girls or get GFE outside of that. Boates work differently so you need to adjust your method. You can occupy a girl the whole night and have a no intercourse GFE experience for 1200 or less in the club but it is true that you can only have sex for one hour unless you negotiate. It is expensive but you don't get waiters badgering you to order drink and that provides a more comfortable environment. So it depends how you want to spend your time and money.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601191]I spent 10 days in Brazil, 7 in SP and 3 in Rio. This was my first time in Brazil.

My favorite city is SP. I'll provide my final observations here, I've already covered my thoughts on Rio in the Rio Thread.

[/QUOTE]Great very detailed report, EB. Looks like you had great success with clinicas, boetes as well as online.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601191]

Prime: Receptionist can be a little grumpy but she's cool once you go once or twice. I only sessioned here once, my first day. Lua was great, but other days I came the lineup never motivated me to try someone, the room is okay but not as nice as other Clinicas. Cost was 240 Reals an hour, I believe 180 the half hour.


Mirunas: Friendly receptionist, okay lineup but didn't session here. The place looks good, just not sure on the rooms and cost.
[/QUOTE]Prime is my go to clinica. I always had good experience. The receptionist (s) never pressured me to pick a girl however long I waited unlike the receptionist at Abbobora.

I went to Maruna yesterday and it has the biggest lounge with lots of seating. The pricing is similar to Prime.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601194]
Maybe she meant to say Nounce left her pussy sore? LOL JK. .[/QUOTE]LOL.

It might have been the case now that I think about it. Damn you, Nounce. LOL. She made up that elaborate story as a cover.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2601213]LOL surgery like recently sex change surgery? Hahahaha. If I meet a girl with that kind of attitude, I would have walked out of the door right away, she won't be getting any money. This is not a FKK.[/QUOTE]I wish it is as easy. She actually blocked the door so I don't get out without paying her. I had to call reception to get security over.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2601303]Based on my observation, I think the new standard price is 800 if you don't negotiate. When they quote higher, often you can still get many of them down to 800. Then you also have to factor in the girl has to pay the club to get in. I think the girls consider gringo a valuable commodity because some of them talk about inflation and how strong dollar is. Even if you don't approach them, some will approach you if you position yourself at the right place. I got several phone numbers a night simply sitting on the sofa and I did not even ask for the numbers. When Lalabo was sitting next to me, he was approached by 2 girls and I got none. Lesson learned, don't sit next to Lalabo when you want girl to approach you. They will do this because some want clients outside of the club. This is based on my limited experience.

In clinicas, you go in, pick a girl, fuck for an hour for a fixed rate but you don't socialize with the girls or get GFE outside of that. Boates work differently so you need to adjust your method. You can occupy a girl the whole night and have a no intercourse GFE experience for 1200 or less in the club but it is true that you can only have sex for one hour unless you negotiate. It is expensive but you don't get waiters badgering you to order drink and that provides a more comfortable environment. So it depends how you want to spend your time and money.[/QUOTE]I understand that. But for the fucking itself, the girl is more in a hurry to come down from the from and pick another guy. I was not comparing boates but to web escort, not photo acomoanhantes off course, but something more high end. Seems 500 are per hour for high end web escort.

But I got you, Regarding the whole GFE thing in Scandallo. And you can't beat a Brazilian girl on that. Sometimes it's more pleasant the pre situation Itself, than the sex itself.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601182]...We had a long and intense legal battle with argument and counter arguments before bunch folks that were there to adjudicate the case.It all came down to how far up her ass my finger penitrated and who do you believe....[/QUOTE]You: it was only 1/2 inch.

She: it was a full inch.

Management: ok 3/4 inch. Pay 1/2 agreed amount, next case.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2601402]I understand that. But for the fucking itself, the girl is more in a hurry to come down from the from and pick another guy. I was not comparing boates but to web escort, not photo acomoanhantes off course, but something more high end. Seems 500 are per hour for high end web escort.

But I got you, Regarding the whole GFE thing in Scandallo. And you can't beat a Brazilian girl on that. Sometimes it's more pleasant the pre situation Itself, than the sex itself.[/QUOTE]I did more online girls than Scandallo girls, and yes it was cheaper. The difference is with online girls you can't see and sample the goodies prior, but with due diligence from GP Guía and by their messages on WhatsApp you can tell if she'll be a good or bad fuck, or at least increase your chances.

But at Scandallo you have the chance to score a girl with less mileage on her, possible new comer and get her on your rotation for possibly less than online girls, which tend to be more business oriented, although in my experience I can think about 2 that want me as a regular and could possibly work some arrangement too.

Plenty of options, just not enough time and bullets in the chamber.

I omitted some details that I thought might be valuable to others visiting on their first time. Another member messaged me about these, so I thought I'd post it.

Cash / Credit Card.

I don't see the need to pull cash at the airport. I pulled several times from Bradesco (no fee) and Santander (20 Reals fee) ATMs around the Moema and Jardin Paulista area without issue. For Bradesco it limit me at $1250 per transaction, but I exited and enter my card again and was able to pull another $1250 right away. I think the bigger issue is some ATM machines don't give you an option to select how you want the note denominations, and you end up with a big stack of 50's, this prompt was hit & miss for me, I even saw an option for a 200 Real note one time, but not the other.

As far as Credit card usage, SP accepts credit card everywhere, and I had zero issues. In fact, they are accepted at Clinicas for a small fee, and at Scandallo. However, at Scandallo you can pay your final bill, and the room for the session without a fee, but if you want to pay the fee for the girl with credit you can do this once you finish the session at the hotel and you'll pay a 10% fee. The lady will ask the working girl what the fee she's charging is, and then they will confirm with you if you are ok paying that plus the 10% fee. I did this because I had no more cash at the end and was heading to the airport right after. Just FYI you can use credit.

ID / Passport.

I carried with me a copy of both in my back pocket. At Scandallo the copy of my ID was sufficient, even if it was an expired ID (I noticed I took the wrong copy after LOL). At some apartments when checking in to see an online girl for incall, they asked me for my passport to let me in. I had no problems with either one.

Condoms.

I got no BBFS, but I was able to use the Sagami's I took with me with every girl I remembered to bring some with and during my pernoites too. Funny thing, during one of the sessions I was really trying to get BBFS, got only half way there then got rejected, so out comes the Sagami. After some hard action while doing K9 I finally decide to switch positions and what do you know, the condom had broke for awhile so I had been barebacking her anyways LOL. She had no issue and she just pulled out one of hers and continued by impaling herself next LOL. On the second round I had got all the way in while bareback but the damn room service knocked at the door with some wine and food ordered, talk about cock blocking LOL. Anyways, bring your condoms if you care about this, some girls carry some heavy duty shit that kills the feeling.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2601250]Just keep in perspective and move on. For most of us, it's a non event. And you better believe if she does this a few times she will be out. That is the sad part, most mangers don't even do what you did, they just pay and move on.[/QUOTE]The problem with staying quiet and moving on is that you are encouraging girls to continue their ways.

How can management get rid of bad apples if customers don't inform them of bad service?

I have no illusions that management would side with customers in these situations unless you are someone who frequents the place quite regularly and spends obscene amount of money. If the management has standards and care about reputation then they will get rid of girls after 2 or 3 strikes.

I post reports about shitty service because I think they are as valuable if not more valuable than positive reports. I also hope these sort of reports encourage others to share such experiences.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601042]

Another benefit of showing up early is daylight, I could really distinguish the pretty ones from the make up queens. I would've done another girl if time wasn't an issue, I finally got the hint how to work things out, in my case lay out what you want sometime during the early part of the conversation to set expectations, check for chemistry and requirements, make an offer, negotiate and score or move on to the next one. It took me 4 tries but I left pleased I finally got it.

Overall I'm happy with Scandallo, I appreciate all the members that have chimed in with advice, and I will definitely be back to Scandallo in the near future. The hotel room was fine BTW, clean and nice IMO. 230.00 for 1 hour. I realize I paid north of 1000.00 for the fuck, but I don't mind paying for what I like and want. I had a great time in the end![/QUOTE]Great report. I can't wait to go back now that everything is pretty much re-open. Maybe again January.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601465]I did more online girls than Scandallo girls, and yes it was cheaper. The difference is with online girls you can't see and sample the goodies prior, but with due diligence from GP Gua and by their messages on WhatsApp you can tell if she'll be a good or bad fuck, or at least increase your chances.

But at Scandallo you have the chance to score a girl with less mileage on her, possible new comer and get her on your rotation for possibly less than online girls, which tend to be more business oriented, although in my experience I can think about 2 that want me as a regular and could possibly work some arrangement too.

Plenty of options, just not enough time and bullets in the chamber.[/QUOTE]This may be a controversial statement to some but based on many years in this hobby I think the "less mileage" thing is the most overrated factor in putaria. If one is talking about "less mileage that day" as in a clinica chick First session of the day vs last session. Then ok, I avoid CLnicas end of day because a human body can only take so much per day, and girls get tired.

But most people here use low mileage to refer to "lifetime mileage" or time in business. In this context I think it's an illusion that low mileage is better. I think it's basically irrelevant in terms of the sexual appetite of the woman. There are low mileage dead fish and there are high mileage nymphos. The key is finding the "naturally sexual" women regardless of age and mileage. Many women actually get sexually better with age as in less inhibited and better technique but their basic sexual appetite is probably pretty well established by nature. Even more controversial, you will probably find more sexually gifted women in the Clinicas than at Scandalo minutes for reasons of self selection. A woman needs a pretty high libido to do well in SO Clinicas, whereas the women in Scandalo just need to look hot in an evening, dress. Many of them tell me the guys in Scandalo are drunk and last less then 15 minutes in the room and that is the way they like it. Not to say there are not exceptions to every rule, but I am sure there are guys every night at Scandalo paying 5 x for 1/5th the pleasure in spite of "low mileage".

[QUOTE=Nounce;2601303] Snip. In clinicas, you go in, pick a girl, fuck for an hour for a fixed rate but you don't socialize with the girls or get GFE outside of that. Boates work differently so you need to adjust your method. You can occupy a girl the whole night and have a no intercourse GFE experience for 1200 or less in the club but it is true that you can only have sex for one hour unless you negotiate. It is expensive but you don't get waiters badgering you to order drink and that provides a more comfortable environment. So it depends how you want to spend your time and money.[/QUOTE]If you want a clinica where you can chat with the girls before choosing, in addition to getting a presentation, you can go to 57 House Friends Club at Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 in Moema. In the daytime it is a clinica, with clinica pricing, but the girls are mostly in the lounges, not hidden away in a back room, so you can check them out at your leisure and go talk to them like you would in a boate. At 8:55 PM it becomes a boate, with the house getting a room fee and you negotiate the session fee with the girl directly. I think the maximum number of girls is about 20 (maybe a few more), some quite good looking (had three sessions there myself). The daytime receptionist, Julia, is very friendly and speaks some English. Very nice vibe and the girls are quite friendly.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2601559]If you want a clinica where you can chat with the girls before choosing, in addition to getting a presentation, you can go to 57 House Friends Club at Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 in Moema. In the daytime it is a clinica, with clinica pricing, but the girls are mostly in the lounges, not hidden away in a back room, so you can check them out at your leisure and go talk to them like you would in a boate. At 8:55 PM it becomes a boate, with the house getting a room fee and you negotiate the session fee with the girl directly. I think the maximum number of girls is about 20 (maybe a few more), some quite good looking (had three sessions there myself). The daytime receptionist, Julia, is very friendly and speaks some English. Very nice vibe and the girls are quite friendly.[/QUOTE]Is this every night? And what time does the boate close? Do you know the average session fees? 57 is definitely set up for this. I had wondered why there wasn't more interactions with the girls. I have done a few daytime sessions myself and a few of the girls have been great. I would check this out next time. Thanks for the info!