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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2231465]The older the "girl" - the more likely the rip-off. Esp if the "girl" is german. I try to avoid german oldies as much as the devil tries to avoid the holy water (german proverb).[/QUOTE]True, older Germans are not the best. But I only ever went with one over the age of 30 anyway as many Germans don't age that well past that age. She used to be at Artemis, but I think I saw her at GT last time. She was fine though.

But Bul / Rom etc at age 30-35 ain't the worst upsellers. A few might try once to upsell you, but simple bargaining techniques will remove that easily. The young new lot you see in some clubs now are more strict with their upselling.

I've spent several hours browsing these pages as they are by far the best resource I've found, thanks you to the contributors.

40 yo White American Guy (TN) heading to EUR for the first time at the end of October. Have 2 nights in Frankfurt (arriving Sat AM, Departing Mon AM for Work meetings. I'm looking to dabble in Mongering while I'm there. I'm considering FKK and RLD and understand the basics on both. I'll likely allocate afternoon and / or evening to this and let's throw out a budget of 300-400€ all in.

I'm staying downtown just north of the Main, and am unfamiliar without the rail system so I'm looking to stay relatively "close to home". I understand Mainhattan is the closest FKK ( 20€ cab). I've read about their upselling to push $100/30 min for basics and am under the impression I should push back for $50/30 min or $100/60 min (if I like after test drive). I also understand RLD to be 30-50€/20 m with a need to clearly outline what I'm getting. Also the stairs can be much more hit or miss and more rushed than FKKs, generally. Feel free to correct any bad assumptions here, please.

Now a few questions:

1) Assuming I'm wanting to stay fairly close with minimal transfers, is Mainhattan my only / best FKK option?

2) Would Saturday or Sunday afternoon / early evening be better LU wise? What about evenings?

3) I saw premium liquor costing more, but is "endless" basic beer or cocktails included?

4) Are showers mandatory upon arrival (if I've showered before coming?

5) Process wise, I know I'm issued a clothing locker and wallet locker. Am I allowed to keep my phone on me (for reading, I assume photos are a No No)?

6) When I select a girl, I read that I go to the locker to get my Euro. Some suggest paying in the room (esp if negotiating BBBJ for $50). Will the girl be okay with my suggesting room payment?

7) China Japan in BLD intrigues me. What is the pricing there? I've not seen that posted? What is the protocol there outside of mamasan presenting a lineup and my picking someone?

This is a good start for now. I very much appreciate any feedback. If there is a better forum for this post please advise.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2231473]:D

Than this one might fit the bill perfectly simply because someone I know did her, prob is on this site seems they list if they are Catholic or not but not if Reinspritzen is a yay or a nay. I guess just need to ask them when you walk in or WhatsApp these numbers that probably go to a studio or pimp.

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I am also noticing on these profiles girls just like this one who may or may not speak English but seem to speak German and one of more romance languages which to me is potentially a cover up for a Romanian which is not a bad thing but it looks like ' Romanian in disguise' advertising is well alive in Austria as it is in Germany and I remember some girls in Madrid who were Romanian being passed off as Russians.[/QUOTE]Good luck KK. You might find few new queens there.

FYI another similar good site (you probably already know it) is [URL]https://www.hostessen.com/sedcards/search?vorlieben=sexohnekondom[/URL].

[QUOTE=Gino02;2231564]Good luck KK. You might find few new queens there.

FYI another similar good site (you probably already know it) is [URL]https://www.hostessen.com/sedcards/search?vorlieben=sexohnekondom[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for that link, even better. I see more studios and addresses now and I see skanks and hotties and sticks and fatties and ladies from 18-55 that rheinspritzen and everything in between. Can easily go house to house. This link helped a lot thanks for sharing as I did not have it and it is much easier to find the studios on this site and filter the searches too. The inside red and purple and blue light ambiance is something I have always liked and seem to perform better in brothels lit like that, must be something mental. No surprise outside of the dimly lit red light cabins at Day Care is that my favorite room in Germany so far is the Red Room at Sharks, no room comes close for me in comparison.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2231551]I've spent several hours browsing these pages as they are by far the best resource I've found, thanks you to the contributors.

40 yo White American Guy (TN) heading to EUR for the first time at the end of October. Have 2 nights in Frankfurt (arriving Sat AM, Departing Mon AM for Work meetings. I'm looking to dabble in Mongering while I'm there. I'm considering FKK and RLD and understand the basics on both. I'll likely allocate afternoon and / or evening to this and let's throw out a budget of 300-400 all in.

I'm staying downtown just north of the Main, and am unfamiliar without the rail system so I'm looking to stay relatively "close to home". I understand Mainhattan is the closest FKK ( 20 cab). I've read about their upselling to push $100/30 min for basics and am under the impression I should push back for $50/30 min or $100/60 min (if I like after test drive). I also understand RLD to be 30-50/20 m with a need to clearly outline what I'm getting. Also the stairs can be much more hit or miss and more rushed than FKKs, generally. Feel free to correct any bad assumptions here, please.

Now a few questions:.[/QUOTE]1. Yes Mainhattan is your best choice among the FKKs in case you don't want to travel far.

2. Saturday evening should be the best time.

3. No alcoholic drinks are included in the entry fee to the FKKs.

4. No you don't have to shower if you don't want to.

5. No, you should leave your phone in the locker room. If you need to use it, use it in the locker room.

6. You pay the girls after the session. Shouldn't be a problem paying her in the room.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin;2231678]1. Yes Mainhattan is your best choice among the FKKs in case you don't want to travel far.

2. Saturday evening should be the best time.

3. No alcoholic drinks are included in the entry fee to the FKKs.

4. No you don't have to shower if you don't want to.

5. No, you should leave your phone in the locker room. If you need to use it, use it in the locker room.

6. You pay the girls after the session. Shouldn't be a problem paying her in the room.[/QUOTE]Great quick answers, Thanks!

Lack of phone while lounging / watching sports, and lack of beer included takes a bit of shine out of the lounging component for me. Damn.

What is the € price for a beer, generally? Strip clubs in the US charge roughly double what normal bars do. Curious about Mainhattan.

Thank you again for the answers! Still curious about pricing for China brothel in RLD as well if anyone knows.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2231551]I've spent several hours browsing these pages as they are by far the best resource I've found, thanks you to the contributors.

40 yo White American Guy (TN) heading to EUR for the first time at the end of October. Have 2 nights in Frankfurt (arriving Sat AM, Departing Mon AM for Work meetings. I'm looking to dabble in Mongering while I'm there. I'm considering FKK and RLD and understand the basics on both. I'll likely allocate afternoon and / or evening to this and let's throw out a budget of 300-400 all in.

I'm staying downtown just north of the Main, and am unfamiliar without the rail system so I'm looking to stay relatively "close to home". I understand Mainhattan is the closest FKK ( 20 cab). I've read about their upselling to push $100/30 min for basics and am under the impression I should push back for $50/30 min or $100/60 min (if I like after test drive). I also understand RLD to be 30-50/20 m with a need to clearly outline what I'm getting. Also the stairs can be much more hit or miss and more rushed than FKKs, generally. Feel free to correct any bad assumptions here, please.

Now a few questions:[/QUOTE]1) Assuming I'm wanting to stay fairly close with minimal transfers, is Mainhattan my only / best FKK option?

No no no! Skip Mainhattan and RLD. Best girls and FKK experience are to be had at Sharks and Oase, trusting me please. Distance is not issue thanks to Regionalbahn and S-Bahn trains from Frankfurt Hbf to reach Sharks or Oase. Find schedules at website rmv. De and plan ahead since sometimes construction etc. There are always taxi waiting at station for short ride to FKK since the FKK pay the drivers "spiff" for bring customer like you.

2) Would Saturday or Sunday afternoon / early evening be better LU wise? What about evenings?

LU tend to best on Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun or during Messe. Many girls' prefer not work Mon / Tues and instead taking those days off.

When you visit FKK, typical plan on staying from 1400 h to past midnight.

Go Sharks Saturday early afternoon. Best combo of great girl, decent food, good alcohol in my opinion October 2018. Take cheap direct RB train from Frankfurt Hbf to Darmstadt Nord, then quick walk to Sharks via Google map. Enjoy the beauty, amenities, drink and relatively decent lunch and dinner and late night super at Shark. Stay as long as you liking since trains run late Saturday. When time to finally go home, yellow taxi 10 euro to Darmstadt Hbf (NOT Nord), then take the next RB or S-Bahn from Darmstadt Hbf back to Frankfurt Hbf.

Go Oase Sunday early afternoon. 50 euro entry before 1600 h I believe. Easy S5 train from Frankfurt Hbf to Friedrichsdorf under 5 euro, then 10 euro taxi to Oase. Enjoy the beauty, amenity, drink at Oase. Food not so good as Shark or Palace, but girl selection is worth trip. Custom Oase pizza is also nice. Also, Oase has better climate control than Shark (critical in hot summer, less so in autumn). I notice Oase had shit ton of flies this week, disgusting and cafeteria all over the uncovered foods, in locker room. They need to pest control but maybe it hard since they are basically in farmland. This is why I said Sharks first.

Now, if short on time and cannot visit Oase or Shark, Palace is actually very close and decent. Anytime, there is quick 15 minute you-Bahn ride from Frankfurt Hbf for under 3 euro, then 1 minute walk to Palace. It much smaller place compare to Oase or Shark, but girls are actually quite pretty and nice at Palace despite smaller roster. My opinion is food at Palace is much better and much much cleaner (no flies) than Oase, Shark, Mainhattan. Take you-Bahn back for under 3 euro, or easy 20 euro taxi back to Frankfurt Central.

Just remember, all FKK above is 50 euro for 30 minute. Only bring cash, don't use your credit. Ask front desk for price of extra or weird services. Only pay girl at your small locker by front bar after session. Don't sucker for upsell girl. Wishing luck to you American.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2231551]I've spent several hours browsing these pages as they are by far the best resource I've found, thanks you to the contributors.

40 yo White American Guy (TN) heading to EUR for the first time at the end of October. Have 2 nights in Frankfurt (arriving Sat AM, Departing Mon AM for Work meetings. I'm looking to dabble in Mongering while I'm there. I'm considering FKK and RLD and understand the basics on both. I'll likely allocate afternoon and / or evening to this and let's throw out a budget of 300-400 all in.

I'm staying downtown just north of the Main, and am unfamiliar without the rail system so I'm looking to stay relatively "close to home". I understand Mainhattan is the closest FKK ( 20 cab). I've read about their upselling to push $100/30 min for basics and am under the impression I should push back for $50/30 min or $100/60 min (if I like after test drive). I also understand RLD to be 30-50/20 m with a need to clearly outline what I'm getting. Also the stairs can be much more hit or miss and more rushed than FKKs, generally. Feel free to correct any bad assumptions here, please..[/QUOTE]One reco better you stop thinking so much, take it easy. Take the tram number 11 to Manhattan, don t go to the RLD it is just very cheap sex mostly migrants there. What a strange idea not willing to shower, better you go to sauna, after you shower, to make you fresh, you will be more relax and than you can try to find your girl, wait at least 2 hours in the club before going to the room to better understand how it works.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2231551] at the end of October. Have 2 nights in Frankfurt (arriving Sat AM, Departing Mon AM for Work meetings. I'm looking to dabble in Mongering while I'm there. I'm considering FKK and RLD and understand the basics on both. I'll likely allocate afternoon and / or evening to this and let's throw out a budget of 300-400 all in.

I understand Mainhattan is the closest FKK ( 20 cab). I've read about their upselling to push $100/30 min for basics and am under the impression I should push back for $50/30 min or $100/60 min (if I like after test drive). I also understand RLD to be 30-50/20 m with a need to clearly outline what I'm getting. Also the stairs can be much more hit or miss and more rushed than FKKs, generally. Feel free to correct any bad assumptions here, please.

Now a few questions:

1) Assuming I'm wanting to stay fairly close with minimal transfers, is Mainhattan my only / best FKK option?

2) Would Saturday or Sunday afternoon / early evening be better LU wise? What about evenings?

3) I saw premium liquor costing more, but is "endless" basic beer or cocktails included?

4) Are showers mandatory upon arrival (if I've showered before coming?

5) Process wise, I know I'm issued a clothing locker and wallet locker. Am I allowed to keep my phone on me (for reading, I assume photos are a No No)?

6) When I select a girl, I read that I go to the locker to get my Euro. Some suggest paying in the room (esp if negotiating BBBJ for $50). Will the girl be okay with my suggesting room payment?

7) China Japan in BLD intrigues me. What is the pricing there? I've not seen that posted? What is the protocol there outside of mamasan presenting a lineup and my picking someone?

This is a good start for now. I very much appreciate any feedback. If there is a better forum for this post please advise.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]China-Japan place know nothing of. I suggest paying at your locker, I was one who stashed money quite some time ago to work deals in the rooms out of the public eye but now I just pay my 'fixed rate' for my services when I go to the rooms to try the vaginas of Mainhatten. Can leave your valuables in the locker or the pay boxes by the desk. At mainhatten I stick (3) 100's in my pay box and all my other shit in the locker. That is my 3 sessions. It was suggested by a local to leave all valuables in the pay boxes as if someone really wanted to go locker to locker with their keys they would work eventually on one not theirs so in his opinion he leaves all of value up front. I never had an issue either way. Pay the girl post room. Booze can't help you with, I drink still water and 7-ups. Showers not mandatory but certainly helpful. I shower upon arrival, after each session and sometimes before and always before I leave the club.

Based on the fact you only have two days and your times, this is my suggestion which is to bail the RLD not that it isn't worth it but to maximize what IMO you will enjoy best within your budget that also matches up with your flights.

Day one land early as you are and go for early check in or put you bag in a day locker at the FRA station. Catch the RB68 not the long commute SBahn to Darmstadt and get to Sharks at 11 or 12. It is a 19 minute express train from FRA to DAR with one stop in between for 8. 5 Euros. Ask the cabbie for a 10 Euro fixed rate to Sharks if he won't will be 12. Returning from Sharks they will just about always fix price it at 10. The RB68 Express leaves Darmstadt on the:30 of every hour but after 00:30 or so the trains switch but usually an express can be found. Enjoy Sharks for the day. It is Saturday. There will be plenty of women for you and vaginas to try out. Plenty of food. Head home and sleep.

Day two get on the Tram 11 (2. 75) no later than 12:15 PM but not before 10:30 AM to time your arrival at Mainhatten to get the early 20 e discount off the full 65 e price offered between 11-1. If you cab it is 20 e-22 e but washes out the discount. There will be few girls upon arrival but it is Mainhatten, anything can happen can be full by 2 or dead. Expect a slow day but a relaxing one. Night and day from Sharks. The LU are much different, pricing structures differ, food services tad different tons of differences but give both a shot. If you want sub out Oase for Sharks but I recommend Sharks and that express train and I personally am not a fan of Oase and really hate the layout. Other guys feel differently. Sharks is much easier w the train being an express to get to and from. I will be at one of them next trip unless we switch to Palace or elsewhere as I am meeting a group of 5-7 guys and we haven't made a choice yet.

Both of the club visits can be followed by a RLD visit or on day two you can always go to the RLD in the early AM prior to Mainhatten plenty of girls working. I need to do that myself as my RLD List of rooms to attend Catholic mass in are day girls only.

Since you have an early flight out Monday, Mainhatten is great for Day two as you can cab it back to the hotel for 22 Euros or so, eat in the AM and head to the airport of if adventurous hit the RLD at 6-7 AM and you will be surprised how much pussy potentially could be out for one final round. many vaginas to try out in the early morning hours.

Enjoy two well known clubs and back to TN. You can also bail Mainhatten and do Oase or Sharks but I suggest you do Mainhatten and Sharks and give yourself a taste of small city club and a mega brothel as well.

Pricing will be different, if you want your dick sucked bare and it is a must it will cost more at Mainhatten. However, your budget affords you whatever you desire. Plenty of info in both threads to pretty much answer any more questions you may have.

And please, take a shower!! :D

Feel free to PM me with any specifics if you have any

Just a quick note: If you are discussing fast or "Express" trains from Frankfurt Hbf to Sharks:

The very fastest (and easiest plus least expensive) journey TO Sharks is via (no pun intended) the VIA train from Frankfurt Hbf to Darmstadt Nord station, which is only 10 minute easy walk from Sharks. This train leaves from Gleis 12 (normally) at .25 minutes every other hour (on odd hours, I beleive). It takes 18 minutes to Darmstadt Nord, which is the first stop. It is therefore faster and cheaper (no taxi needed) than the RB train that stops first in Langen and then Darmstadt Hbf, from where you either: pay 10 e taxi; or take the "R" Bus; or walk (assuming you have no bicycle or donkey.).

BTW: the existence of this Gleis 12 option was first discovered and published on this forum a few years ago by the illustrious (though slightly narcoleptic) poster: Syzigies.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2231823]Just a quick note: If you are discussing fast or "Express" trains from Frankfurt Hbf to Sharks:

The very fastest (and easiest plus least expensive) journey TO Sharks is via (no pun intended) the VIA train from Frankfurt Hbf to Darmstadt Nord station, which is only 10 minute easy walk from Sharks. This train leaves from Gleis 12 (normally) at .25 minutes every other hour (on odd hours, I beleive). It takes 18 minutes to Darmstadt Nord, which is the first stop. It is therefore faster and cheaper (no taxi needed) than the RB train that stops first in Langen and then Darmstadt Hbf, from where you either: pay 10 e taxi; or take the "R" Bus; or walk (assuming you have no bicycle or donkey.).

BTW: the existence of this Gleis 12 option was first discovered and published on this forum a few years ago by the illustrious (though slightly narcoleptic) poster: Syzigies.[/QUOTE]Good advise, for me I passed on the above option as the time difference is splitting hairs but it comes down to a 10 e taxi vs a 10 min walk. Weather aside if raining I happen to be lazy and would rather take a 10 e taxi door to door. :D I also do not know the safety of the route (for all I know it is a beautiful trail in a fancy tree lined park) and usually carry a large amount of cash on me. You mentioned it was the best way TO Sharks is the above option not available on the return? I could do that walk on the return maybe as my cash will have been depleted from trying vaginas all day than again if I see Mandy and/or Luci it would have been revisiting vaginas I have have already tried both and highly recommend.

Is this the route (The Syzigies one) also the way to start the journey to FKK ROM? A bus takes you from here to ROM? Or taxi?

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2231829]I also do not know the safety of the route (for all I know it is a beautiful trail in a fancy tree lined park) and usually carry a large amount of cash on me. You mentioned it was the best way TO Sharks is the above option not available on the return? I could do that walk on the return maybe as my cash will have been depleted from trying vaginas all day than again if I see Mandy and/or Luci it would have been revisiting vaginas I have have already tried both and highly recommend. [/QUOTE]It is also available for the return journey, but on the even (rather than the odd) hours. The walk is along paved sidewalks beside major roads and Otto Rohm Strasse. No beautiful trail or park; but you can cut through a car park to shave off about 30 seconds.

If you think you can shave more time off by going through a small path beside some factories, then too bad, more time will be wasted as you will run into fencing beside the railway track. (Trust me, I have made this stupid attempt before!) To shave off 20 seconds in crossing and recrossing Carl Schenk Ring, you can walk on a dirt track (muddy when wet!) on the north side of that road instead of the proper sidewalk on the south side.

Route is safe during the day. The Darmstadt North stop (I would not call it a station) is dark and deserted late at night; and once I waited terrified for the train as there were drunken Gothic shaven-head punks there.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2231858]It is also available for the return journey, but on the even (rather than the odd) hours. The walk is along paved sidewalks beside major roads and Otto Rohm Strasse. No beautiful trail or park; but you can cut through a car park to shave off about 30 seconds.

If you think you can shave more time off by going through a small path beside some factories, then too bad, more time will be wasted as you will run into fencing beside the railway track. (Trust me, I have made this stupid attempt before!) To shave off 20 seconds in crossing and recrossing Carl Schenk Ring, you can walk on a dirt track (muddy when wet!) on the north side of that road instead of the proper sidewalk on the south side.

Route is safe during the day. The Darmstadt North stop (I would not call it a station) is dark and deserted late at night; and once I waited terrified for the train as there were drunken Gothic shaven-head punks there.[/QUOTE]Thanks TT, no excuses now for those looking for quick trains to get to Sharks or getting stuck in short cuts, they have been warned

Can you now please go ID the girl at Mainhatten who came from World as part of your voluntary duties to the ISG and being of great help privately and at times simply your dedication to public service :D

There is another girl there I am curious about and after getting back I tracked her down on some site to World. She is taller, wears glasses, huge tits, heavy on the red / pink lipstick, and has blond hair and specifically the ends are curled probably the bottom 6" to be exact. Very pretty and flirtatious, perhaps TankTank would know best.

You might be able to ID her without a picture in this case if I described her well enough

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2231887]Can you now please go ID the girl at Mainhatten who came from World. She is taller, wears glasses, huge tits, heavy on the red / pink lipstick, and has blond hair and specifically the ends are curled probably the bottom 6" to be exact. Very pretty and flirtatious, perhaps TankTank would know best.[/QUOTE]None that I know of fits as very few girls at World wear spectacles. 2 possibilities:

1 Christina. But no glasses and not that tall. Left World for Mainhatten early this year. Tits large but not huge. Blonde curly hair and red lipsticks. Pretty and flirtatious.

2 Eva. Wears glasses. Very very tall and slim. Huge silicone tits. Blonde hair but it was straight. Very pretty, but shy and reserved, not flirtatious. She was still at World in August.

Other girls with glasses are short.

There is also a huge whale with very thick lips (like a monkey), normally pink or bright red, curls at end of blonde hair, but no glasses. Certainly flirtatious, goes after me now and then, so I run away from her and never asked her name. Last seen in July, missing in August.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2231898]None that I know of fits as very few girls at World wear spectacles. 2 possibilities:

1 Christina. But no glasses and not that tall. Left World for Mainhatten early this year. Tits large but not huge. Blonde curly hair and red lipsticks. Pretty and flirtatious.

2 Eva. Wears glasses. Very very tall and slim. Huge silicone tits. Blonde hair but it was straight. Very pretty, but shy and reserved, not flirtatious. She was still at World in August.

Other girls with glasses are short.

There is also a huge whale with very thick lips (like a monkey), normally pink or bright red, curls at end of blonde hair, but no glasses. Certainly flirtatious, goes after me now and then, so I run away from her and never asked her name. Last seen in July, missing in August.[/QUOTE]Would match Eva the closest. Let me try to find her info now again, too many notes to dig thru will try.

Except this girl was far from shy especially since she approached a few times asking for her vagina to be tried.