Dubai Reports

All races have good ones and bad ones. I read each post with delight and liked the bit on how levant Arab was put with Westerners. Brilliant. Why are people always trying to prove themselves to be superior in UAE. Even more so on a website that wants to help fellow mongers. I can list down issues of terrible bad breath with Westerners to body odours to few individuals having bad attitude. Why do we start painting entire generations and millions by the same brush stroke. Didn't education teach us that every individual is different and judge each on merit. If I rise above it all, I see everybody as one. Human beings with different skin colors. Each having its own issue like us Whites always needing sun. There is No difference, except in our hearts. Some people are mean and get a kick out of insulting or putting down other Nationalities. It massages their own short comings and insecurities.

Anyway, jumping to the main topic and the forum has actually grown tremendously in the last few weeks. Please do not start polluting it again. Let us please just stick to talking about our experiences, writing reviews on girls and talking about mongering.

The scene in UAE goes through its ups and downs, but Dxb seems to be finding its way back. I am hoping the word will spread further and we will start to see more girls coming here like in 2007 and 2008. Anybody remember those good ol days. I have also started to notice more LE action and it seems we are being watched more closely. Yet, if you keep the action behind closed doors, nobody will bother you, just make sure U-turn your TV or music, if you like screaming in pleasure. .

Also as the guy posting on craigslist copies and pastes post from here. My advice to you. Be careful. I know you are doing a great job, but you are leaving a massive electronic trail and could face consequences, especially since some fool is posting offensive religious messages. This will get attention from authorities. Beware.

Lastly, when anybody goes for incall, be sensible. If I went for incall, always like to go with a friend. It is easier for 2 guys to get out instead of one. Though the percentage of girls mucking around is 2% to 3.

Have a good night guys.

[QUOTE=Mo The Pro; 1397165]Can't believe a quality Moroccan or Tunisian chick would go for 600 LT! My Moroccan regular won't take less than 1, 500 ST (she is gorgeous 7-8 in my book) and have now even started quoting 2, 500 ST.

Let me know if you still have their numbers and if you could share them as I'll be in Dubai for one day this Friday.

Mo[/QUOTE]I can't believe it either! May I have details by MP?

[QUOTE=Mo The Pro; 1397191]This new race importance to WG debate is as stupid as the debate members had awhile earlier about age. I have been around the block and back and I have never been with a girl that told me that she categorizes men by race first. Race is important but it's not the most important thing in any relationship or encounter between men and women even for WG.

IMHO, class is the most important thing for girls period. Wither you are Arab, Western, Indian, or even a freaking Bangladesh if you know how to carry yourself and you exude class then I'm sure no girl (working or otherwise) will turn you down because of your race maybe you were turned down because of other things. Every encounter has its uniqueness and generalizing on personal experiences is pointless.

What I wanted to say is that there are high class and low class people in every race and I'm sure that's not different for Westerners or Europeans, however, I do acknowledge that a bigger percentage of Westerners and Europeans in the Middle East are from the higher class when compared to other races here but do keep in mind that the higher class Arabs, Indians, and other races are on business trips and vacation in America and Europe and not in Dubai or Bahrain.

So here goes your comparison.

I'm sure a WG would rather be with a decent educated Arab or Indian as opposed to a redneck American even though the later is a Westerner.

My 2 cents.

Mo[/QUOTE]Mo the PRO, This ain't Disneyland. I don't know how you can say this as nothing to do with Race. I can tell you that ALL GIRLS I told I could pass their number to fellow members here, or friends told me the exact same sentence "Where are they from". And explaining me they don't go for gulf arabs pakistanese (violence, cheat) and sometime indians (hygiene).

Of course as you said, a crappy american will certainly pass behind a classy arab. But let stick to the middle man of all those "races" and the rules of myself or MAD Hater or Cons68 still apply.

I personally think this is really sad for some fellow here, who are indians or pakistanese, decent, educated and with a normal hygien to be discriminated by girls, but that's a fact, talk to girls (not the last girl staying at ratsky, but the girl who can afford to chose!) and you will have no other choice but to agree!

dear buster,

despite not being the one starting on the subject, i think his is fair to say it is an interesting topic, particularly for people coming from abroad and knowing about those local hint for hunting in here.

i don't think it was the goal of anyone here trying to be superior or whatever (superior to pick up a pay girl, is somehow not a quality!) but agree or not, most quality girl who can afford choosing will tell you the same speech as described below. at least our friends from india or pakistanis coming here, knows they might need to make some effort to pick up a girl, ans most of all, those not showing respect to girl, might think of stoping cause they are making it more difficult for their country man to get the same girl.

[quote=buster f; 1397366]all races have good ones and bad ones. i read each post with delight and liked the bit on how levant arab was put with westerners. brilliant. why are people always trying to prove themselves to be superior in uae. even more so on a website that wants to help fellow mongers. i can list down issues of terrible bad breath with westerners to body odours to few individuals having bad attitude. why do we start painting entire generations and millions by the same brush stroke. didn't education teach us that every individual is different and judge each on merit. if i rise above it all, i see everybody as one. human beings with different skin colors. each having its own issue like us whites always needing sun. there is no difference, except in our hearts. some people are mean and get a kick out of insulting or putting down other nationalities. it massages their own short comings and insecurities.

have a good night guys.[/quote]

[QUOTE=DubaiMan2; 1397373]Mo the PRO, This ain't Disneyland. I don't know how you can say this as nothing to do with Race. I can tell you that ALL GIRLS I told I could pass their number to fellow members here, or friends told me the exact same sentence "Where are they from". And explaining me they don't go for gulf arabs pakistanese (violence, cheat) and sometime indians (hygiene).

Of course as you said, a crappy american will certainly pass behind a classy arab. But let stick to the middle man of all those "races" and the rules of myself or MAD Hater or Cons68 still apply.

I personally think this is really sad for some fellow here, who are indians or pakistanese, decent, educated and with a normal hygien to be discriminated by girls, but that's a fact, talk to girls (not the last girl staying at ratsky, but the girl who can afford to chose!) and you will have no other choice but to agree![/QUOTE]Classy Arab. Guess that's what you are! I hope I got that right mate. .

I would say this is a Disneyland in a lot of ways and we all men are here for a ride. A different kind of ride. .

Just like Disneyland, we have flavors from HK, Europe and US here. Though in most cases they may state from a certain country and turn out from another.

My experience only is limited to Premier where I have seen guys, well dressed and who know the game walking out with stunners whether they were Indians, Classy Arabs or Westerners. On the other hand, I have seen guys being turned down because they negotiated too hard or did not approach in the right manner. I see older Westerners being turned down, men who are fat normally struggle, but then others who fall in the criteria just woo the girl. I actually know a guy from Bangladesh, who scores more freebies with hot girls than anybody else as he plays the game well. On personal experience most WG's have refused me to pass their numbers to Arabs as they have normally complained of multiple issues. Yet when the same friends were with me. They had no issues.

Remember you only meet a handful of girls. Do not paint the town with the same brush.

I have started to use a similar technique while interviewing for my company and over last 6 months the atmosphere in my Dubai office has changed for good. I follow the new age policy broadly. You generalise. No job at my firm. Keeps the negativity out.

Has anybody witnessed Spanish girls increasing in UAE or it is just me.

Even I am quite curious about it. Could you tell me where this bar is located and / or the phone numbers of the girls. I was trying to PM you but it seems it's not enabled at your end.

[QUOTE=GodzG; 1397008]Man I think its easier for arabs picking up girls, price wise I mean.

I went to this joint called sun and sand or sand and wave or something along that line, picked up a gorgeous big titted morrocan chick for 600 LT.

Got her tunisian friends number and got her for the same price in the afternoon, nothing better than hung over sex.

They usually prefer arab men but the tunisian likes westerners because I asked her if its ok for a friend of mine to call her.

Later that a night a cute Russian bar girl (non pro) slipped me her number after eye fuckin me for a few hours, we hung out but nothing happened since I was leaving the next day and I never bothered calling / texting her again so I doubt she'll be happy to see me when I do come back to Dubai on st pattys day.

I've never had a black chick, where's a good place to pick them up in the afternoons?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DubaiMan2;1397371]I can't believe it either! May I have details by MP?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mo The Pro; 1397165]Can't believe a quality Moroccan or Tunisian chick would go for 600 LT! My Moroccan regular won't take less than 1, 500 ST (she is gorgeous 7-8 in my book) and have now even started quoting 2, 500 ST.

Let me know if you still have their numbers and if you could share them as I'll be in Dubai for one day this Friday.

Mo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397379]On personal experience most WG's have refused me to pass their numbers to Arabs as they have normally complained of multiple issues. Yet when the same friends were with me. They had no issues.[/QUOTE]

That is the whole point, race is used as a proxy. Once the person is seen with a trusted party, then race is no longer an issue. We all agree with this, this is not blind racism.

Sorry to use the same example, but when Jenny meets Sylvan she does not see an Indian, she sees a friend of mine who plays the game with the same rules I do. Still another Indian guy whom I introduced was violently rejected because of the way he approached (Indian style)

I am sure Mo the Pro has no issues, and I could introduce him to any girl he was interested (but I am cheap bastard in comparison) but in general I would be wary of GCC nationals

When asked girls have never told me, I think,"only white people" but they have always said something like "only if he is like you"

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397379]Remember you only meet a handful of girls. Do not paint the town with the same brush.[/QUOTE]
I think there is quite a bunch of us so on aggregated we have interacted with a significative sample. Girls use race as a proxy, but a personal introduction will overcome this most of the time. Or being dressed properly, being showered... just try to think how would be for a girl, in a closed room with that guy naked...

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397379]I have started to use a similar technique while interviewing for my company and over last 6 months the atmosphere in my Dubai office has changed for good. I follow the new age policy broadly. You generalise. No job at my firm. Keeps the negativity out.[/QUOTE]
Good when you have 400 CVs you do not apply broad filters and give them your full, individualized attention. Good for you.

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397379]Has anybody witnessed Spanish girls increasing in UAE or it is just me.[/QUOTE]
Where? I can check if they are Spanish for you (if you mean the ads in cragilist not really) But yes, you should see more Spanish girls given the way economy is going

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397366]There is No difference, except in our hearts. Some people are mean and get a kick out of insulting or putting down other Nationalities. It massages their own short comings and insecurities.[/QUOTE]

Well, that is up to the girl to decide, if she thinks people of a certain origin are more likely to be unsafe I understand she prefers not to deal with them. She is literally risking her life when she walks past the door. As a Chinese girl once told me, "killing Chinese woman in Dubai is like killing a chicken"

And this is not different of me, for example, not taking African girls. I am racist, and respect other people's right to be racist. It saves time and reduces disappointment, it certainly looks like a win-win to me

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397366]The scene in UAE goes through its ups and downs, but Dxb seems to be finding its way back[/QUOTE]

It seems to be related to fairs and touristic activity, I suspect mongering may become a low-season activity, it is easier to be pickier and holier when the hotel rooms are full

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397366]TI am hoping the word will spread further and we will start to see more girls coming here like in 2007 and 2008. Anybody remember those good ol days. [/QUOTE]

Inshallah, a huge influx of starry-eyed nubile girls with blossoming bodies and a genetic trait for debauchery is just what the doctor ordered

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397366]I have also started to notice more LE action and it seems we are being watched more closely. [/QUOTE]

Please, please, please, this is a very important hint. If you are new here read DubaiMan's post (RoD) He was kind enough to think of the average ISG member and wrote it 3x so you only need to read once!!!

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397366]Also as the guy posting on craigslist copies and pastes post from here. My advice to you. Be careful. I know you are doing a great job, but you are leaving a massive electronic trail and could face consequences, especially since some fool is posting offensive religious messages. This will get attention from authorities. Beware.[/QUOTE]
Yes, there is someone in craiglist making references to ISG, never saw religious comments though. He is quite pissed off with all the Nigerian girls running scam. If you will allow me to generalize them to a single nationality

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397366]Lastly, when anybody goes for incall, be sensible. If I went for incall, always like to go with a friend. It is easier for 2 guys to get out instead of one. Though the percentage of girls mucking around is 2% to 3. [/QUOTE]

Actually a daily 2-3% risk means that after one month you have 60% chances of being dead. Given the stakes here that is simply too much, remember that any issue here may end up in jail and deportation. Again, I have to see a place where Chinese or Filis made any trouble, but you are free to consider that all girls are equal

PM close to York.

Waiting for meeting a fellow ISG member, I wanted to try an MP.

Soon after York there are guys giving MP cards. They say 100 for 1 hour.

Ok, they bring me in a building close by on the main street. The glass door has a yellow frame and a red PULL sign on it.

Up to the 5th floor. On the desk name of the place: Kokonet massage. 100 is without oil (!) , ok 120 with oil.

I am shown a selection of 2 PRC. 1 Malaysian and 2 indians. I choose one tall PRC, name Lemon.

Nice strong massage, after 30 min she asks if I want a cock massage. I ask how much for BJ? She answers 400, I offer 200 she declines.

Handjob would be 200, I offer 100 and finally she accept. Quite good, slow and skillful.

TGIT Astoria hotel.

Waiting for the fellow, I go to see how TGIT is nowadays.

Few men, PRC, Black, Paki, CIS. Quality quite low. Beer 25-27. I meet a PRC friend of an old time GF I had here. She recognize me and we start chatting, she sits with me while I get some food. Jenny is petite, above the average quality of the place. Pretty face and nice rack, a fun girl around 40 years.

Being my friend late and the menu interesting, I take her back to the hotel.

Four points Sheraton in Bank street often don't even stop for I'd copy if you just walk straight to the elevator.

In the room, I find out her body looks younger than her age, quiet nice soft skin.

Shower together, very good deep kissing (difficult to find!) , long DATY (she comes strongly) , very good BBBJ. 69 and finish missionary.

Second shot would have been available, anal I do not know.

Summary: very good service, including good kissing. Would have been 500, but gave 600. PM for number.

The TGIT management from today is limiting PRC up to 5 girls only, so she might not be there anymore.

Tonight is the last. I will hunt for a Fili, perhaps at Ratsky. If anyone likes to join the hunt, contact me. (Max, I am still here)

Red

[QUOTE=RedBaron2; 1397535]. If anyone likes to join the hunt, contact me. (Max, I am still here)

Red[/QUOTE]Hi tried to PM you but could not. Following message:

"redbaron in box is full. They need to delete some messages to receive new ones"

Or words to that effect.

[QUOTE=Buster F;1397366]All races have good ones and bad ones. I read each post with delight and liked the bit on how levant Arab was put with Westerners. Brilliant. Why are people always trying to prove themselves to be superior in UAE.[/QUOTE]I assume you are referring to my post. I am not of Arab descent if that's what you were insinuating.

Anyway, despite people wanting to claim there is no racism, we should look beyond and / or that the people who had posted about race were being racist, the ground reality is that there is rampant racism in the UAE and it extends to the Punters and the WGs.

What I had posted was based on over 10 years of WG experience in the UAE. I have pretty much seen quite a bit of the scene.

And no one denies that a personal recommendation and class (well dressed, mannered and hygiene) trump race most of the time, but for any visitor they need to be aware that there is rampant discrimination among WGs.

One stunning CIS WG that I picked up (or she picked me up more like) approached me after me blowing off the African Brigade. 1 hour earlier, she had blown me off.

Back to Mongering:

Am seeing a couple of posts for a 3somes on CL. Not much into "another man naked in the room" scene but has anyone tried something like this?

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Sylvan59; 1397320]WR.

Congrats on the milestone.

The SMS was good. In touch with the subject. Meeting lined up shortly.

Sorry for waking you up so late in to wee hours.

Best Regards & Take Care.

Sylvan.[/QUOTE]Good news S.

If you are in the UAE in April let me know. May have another SMS to give you. You know where to contact me if you need as better than the original SMS and trust uncle WR on this

I work in the hospitality industry where in theory, everyone receives "individual attention," but the reality is we profile. The moment you enter my establishment, I do "profile" you based on your ethnicity, how you dress, and how you carry yourself (not necessarily in that order). When it comes to tipping (yes, I'm American, but Asian-American to be specific) , profiling is spot on. I can spot a cheap bastard and / or wanker a mile away.

If you feel sorry for the establishment I work with, we cater to people who sign paychecks.

Next, your approach begets the tailored response. Unfortunately, I can't walk away from a muppet, but I do keep the language as simple as possible.

As I run around Dubai, people fit their cultural profile. An exception is not the rule.

I suspect a WG uses the same technique. So do bouncers.

As I told I wanted to take a Fili meal tonight.

I found there is Ratsky3 at walking distance from my hotel in Bur Dubai, in the Holiday Inn hotel (previously Excelsior Creek hotel). I go there at 10, 30 and it is dead empty. The band starts playing a bit later, nice girls, but almost nobody in there. Forget it. I take some food and off I go to the real Ratsky at Karama Hotel.

Fully packed at 11 pm, F / M 2/1, all Filis, all qualities available, including a small one around 1, 40 cm!

After some scouting I talk to a smiling one, nice face, decent body and off we go. Agreed 500 for 2 hours. She is semi-pro, waitress in the day (800 a month) and sometimes at this place. In the room we play and she comes strongly with a vibrator I had. Average service and body. After one hour I let her go. Not to repeat, but overall nice, BBBJ, massage, DATY, etc.

I recommend the place: with some more investigation I think some gems can be found. A lot of choice, but it takes time to select.

Enjoy Dubai,

Red

Gents,

A quick inquiry about the Happy Valley MP with 4 or 5 branches in Dubai. Has anybody ever tried them? Their website looks professional and the place look upscale. I would appreciate any feedback on the place as I'll be booking a session there for Friday.

Mo

[QUOTE=Mo The Pro; 1397805]Gents,

A quick inquiry about the Happy Valley MP with 4 or 5 branches in Dubai. Has anybody ever tried them? Their website looks professional and the place look upscale. I would appreciate any feedback on the place as I'll be booking a session there for Friday.

Mo[/QUOTE]Massage : 6/10 (it depends on the girl, I had 9/10 massage and 2/10 massage and asked for a change of girl after 10 minutes)

Girl beauty : 7/10 depending on the branch, better than average.

Cleanliness :8/10 depending on the branch.

Extra: absolutely not guaranteed but you might be lucky!