Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1502380]To make a long story short, later on just after the girls left in a cab, my girl calls and says that her friend is very sad because my friend never gave her any of the promised 'help'.

I was stunned, and I quizzed my so called buddy about the money, and he says to me,"Dude, she never asked for it, so what the f#k, I didn't give it to her"

I wanted to punch him in the nose, and realized why he has so many girl problems.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1502353]Good post amigo, but some guys will never get it. That's why I mostly travel solo nowadays. The last thing I need is some bad lucked jinxed guy putting a hex on me because of some bullshit he is constantly doing.[/QUOTE]Spot fucking ON! Ricker's example is also the reason why I do not fuck with too many people when I am traveling. Too many times you end up helping someone who is only trying to help themselves.

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[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1502372]What? Crack pipe much?

Why do you care what I give to the Red Cross? Doesn't that run counter with your other cracked-induced statement? :

You didn't have to waste forum space to tell us that you don't give charitable donations because it "just doesn't feel that good"; nor did I come on here trying to guilt anyone into donating to the Red Cross!

And let's stop with the bullshit. If you were really concerned about "chicas going to college" I am certain there is no shortage of scholarship funds in Colombia that you could contribute to. But that "doesn't feel that good" as taking advantage of a situation and making a "direct donation" (into) a chica, now does it?

Tricking your earnings on "tuition payments" on women (other than your immediate family) is a lifestyle choice. There is nothing noble about it, so stop trying to guilt others into thinking otherwise.[/QUOTE]I don't care but then I didn't bring it up, you did. I would never, ever 'suggest' to anyone who to give their money to or how to or not to spend it.

But then I think you rather missed my point there old man.

Contrary to this sites moniker, the world's greatest aphrodisiac is manipulating other people, especially women. Money is just a vehicle. And those with money have been 'jonesing' on it since time began.

And those without money use guns and those without guns use religion, but I digress. So paying tuition, on it's surface, seems almost innocent doesn't it.

Fun being a monger, huh.

[QUOTE=Almotu;1502420]I feel sad . For this thread![/QUOTE]Relax man, this thread is and always has been dynamic.

From trip reports, to philosophies, to occasional fights and disagreements.

It's an internet sex-guide forum, nothing to get sad about.

Enjoy life mi amigo!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1502331]What an excellent analogy of the scene in Medellin, which could apply to various other cities in Latin America as well.

I have to admit, I almost always swim in the shallow end of the pool, looking and hoping to find the 'new' gem.

Over the years I've gotten pretty good at hanging out in the shallow end and finding keepers, and to be honest, whenever I have dabbled over in the deep end of the pool, I've felt out of my comfort zone.

I know what I'm good at, and I've learned to stay there. I'm more than satisfied with sweet. 7-8+, occasional 9 type girls.

The older I get, the more I like being with girls who actually click with me and enjoy being with me as well, and not just the quick PFP.

Having good contacts, like taxistas, local friends, etc, like you refer to, I agree, is key.

As an example, in Brazil, where I mostly hang out, I have befriended various 'madams' from various casas, clubs, etc over the years. They actually call or text me to let me know when a new girl shows up that they know is my type.

Bringing these madams little gifts, chocolates, etc helps out greatly LOL.

I also like how your anaology doesn't demean guys who prefer to swim in either end of the pool.

Like you say, it's all cool, to each their own, and enjoy.

Thank you,

Happy Holidays.[/QUOTE]I really enjoyed Vegas Jeff's analogy of the pool. Like Ricker, I too tend to hang in the shallows, but always on the lookout for the occasional diamond. If I had more time I'd spend it in the deep end, but I don't. The last few days that I've been here in Medellin, I have been working with my manager of Liquid to recruit chicas that are somewhere in between. I'm hoping to get a sweet and pretty group who consider Liquid their home away from home. It has started already with a small group, but I intend to improve on it, but at least now we always have a fairly reliable group that hangs at Liquid willing to party with the guests. I'll post a few pics when I get them moved on to my laptop.

Went to an MP this afternoon, I have no idea the name. It's a bar on La Playa (Calle 52) , basically La Playa con Junin (cra 49). You will see a Presto (nasty hamburger chain place) walk past it (away from La Playa) and walk up the steps.

There were maybe eight girls working, three of which looked decent (6 or 7 out of 10 rating).35K COP half hour includes oral, vaginal and massage. 70K COP includes two pops if you can get them in. I don't know what BBBJ is but for all extras (kissing / BBFS / anal) was quoted 50K by the girl I talked to. The place is set up like a bar, has stripper poles, big screens, bar, tables and then little bedrooms in the back. Not bad because you can kind of hang out there. I always feel weird sitting in the waiting room at most MPs, I don't get the guys who sit there and fuck around for a long time. Not really a chill atmosphere to me. This place was OK, decent music also. I only went because I hollered at a chick on the street and, as it turned out, she worked there. That is the third time in as many months that I've run down a "non pro" on the street only to later to discover she was a pro. Medellin makes, the world takes ;)

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1502466]Relax man, this thread is and always has been dynamic.

From trip reports, to philosophies, to occasional fights and disagreements.

It's an internet sex-guide forum, nothing to get sad about.

Enjoy life mi amigo![/QUOTE]I just rather share info without having to hear all the excuses, rationalizations and moaning. Amigo, I miss hanging out with you and your bro but it's stories like the one you just related that I rather fly solo sometimes. Those type of people give hobbyists a bad name!

Tables and chairs are allowed on the sidewalk again for the restaurants and only for the restaurants. Not sure when. Only an intel from a friend who is there right now. Strip is packed with chicas tonight.

Cheers.

Lots of fireworks in the sky tonight as the calendar rolls into December 1. The start of the holiday season. Feliz Navidad everyone!

Went to the Barra Ejecutiva, Maracaibo, F2 and SD street scene tonight.

F2 talent was pretty nice but not much new and all the same boring attitudes. I thought about going with Julieta but I didn't feel much enthusiasm from her so I passed. I saw Leidy (not sure her stage name) , smoking hot, would recommend both of those. For me both those two and a blondie (Diana Catalina, again not sure about stage name) are kind of past tense though.

Barra Ejecutiva and Maracaibo were the usual "just miss" type of chicks, they look good from afar but in the light of day. Mehhhhh. OK selection though and relatively small crowds for a Saturday. I guess the whole December thing, just like on El Dia de Amor why Amistad, shit is slow.

Ultimately I saw Andrea in the SD area, taller girl, thin, decent sized B cups but they are kind of soft and not all that well formed. She is 18, very relaxed and eager to please. I would recommend her.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1502114]As Warren Buffett says, he wants to leave his kids enough to do anything they want, but not so much that they can do nothing. Keep this in mind when helping these girls. Maybe a little help when serious difficulty arises and advice is the sweet spot. If they are always in need they are working you or are lazy. Most of the girls I am with are lazy and I accept that about them.

First off there is extreme poverty in MDE. Many of you read about the minimum wage of 600k ($350 / month) and think OMG how can they live off of this. The majority of the poor can't even find jobs that will pay them this. It is difficult for many poor girls to find steady work that pays 25k+ per day. A few people within a house work and support the entire family. There is no need for these extreme payment arrangements if one has time in MDE. If you want to do it, then that is up to you. Don't forget that if you throw money at them they will lose respect for you IMO.

If one has time in MDE there are plenty of 7's and 8's who will spend extended time with you for 100k or less and they don't have words like hour or condom in their vocabulary. Most of these girls are not aspiring college students. They are just poor and a victim of poverty. This is 90%+ of the girls you will meet in MDE. Many of these girls are satisfied with the money that you give them and have no desire to seek out other men. 9's I find hard to keep fresh irregardless of how you meet them. By the way I have a tough rating scale so add 1 to each of these numbers if you don't.

The difference is swimming in the shallow end of the pool versus the deep end of the pool. Let me explain. The shallow end of the pool is when girls are available to a wide variety of men such as MP's, Strip Clubs, The Mansion, Facebook, etc. The deep end of the pool is when girls are not having sex with an abundance of men. The deep end of the pool is desirable from the standpoint of getting a fresh attitude and essence as well not getting any sex restrictions. I swim in the shallow end of the pool sometimes, and enjoy it, but can see the difference from the deep end. IMO girls in the deep end of the pool who will accept direct payment for sex are better than regular girls. I won't get into that here though. Some Vets only swim in the shallow end and this is cool also. To each their own. Some of the girls that you meet in the deep end will find their way into the shallow end. Deal with this as you will. For you guys who have short trips, the shallow end of the pool is all that is available and the shallow end is a good place in MDE. If I traveled to another city for a week I would consider myself lucky to be with the caliber of girls that many of you guys are with in Medellin.

Here are a few easy ideas for you guys who have extended time. First, if you meet a girl in the shallow end, who is new and has a fresh attitude, get her phone number. If she is reluctant to give it to you tell her that you will only call her if she quits. Two of my favorite girls I met in their first week in Centro casas, who quit, and I transitioned them to the room. I read on the forum a few weeks ago some complaining about girls quitting at Aiffe. If they were new and you got their numbers this would be a good thing. Second, get referrals from the girls that you already know. Be very clear that you can get working girls very easily and that you are looking for girls with limited or no experience. It is also important to let them know that there is no rush and you have all the time in the world and quality is what counts. Third, taxi drivers can be good if you can find the right ones that you can trust. There are many other ideas as well but I just wanted to touch on a few easy ideas.

Don't be surprised if some new girls will not give you a BJ or DATY but will let you have endless no condom sex with them. IMO there is a big difference between a girl not doing these things for professional reasons versus innocence reasons. In the poor barrios many these girls make out, with light petting, and then jump into sex. I am sure some of you Vets can identify with this. Now you know where this stems from.

Success as a Hobbyist in Colombia and other countries that have a deep end is a mindset. Once you have the right mindset the girls can see it in your eyes and they treat you differently. I have found the girls in MDE to be smoking hot, easy to entertain, great in bed, and in general cool to be around. I would encourage the Vets to write more about the deep end and discourage the readers from attacking them for doing so.

Good Luck to all and enjoy the Holidays.

VJ[/QUOTE]There really isn't anything to add to VJ's observations and analysis, except it ought to be required reading. Very thoughtful and equally insightful.

Thank you

[QUOTE=Ricker;1502331]As an example, in Brazil, where I mostly hang out. .[/QUOTE]Ricker, I get the impression that you can live anywhere you want to live. You spend most of your time in Brazil. I can't imagine a place better than the City of Eternal Spring, but we're all limited by our knowledge. Why Brazil and not Medellin?

Just an FYI to everyone that Liquid was packed last night (Saturday). Probably the only bar in Medellin that was because of Alumbrado. Good mix of Chicas to Gringos, although we're still working on upping the quality of the girls. The partners had a meeting, and all agreed to keep a minimum of 5-10 girls every night regardless of the cost. We are going to a lot of extra trouble and expense to get really high quality girls, but to be honest it likely won't happen overnight.

For those that don't know, Alumbrado starts at midnight of Dec 1st and is the kickoff of the holiday celebrations and the City of Medellin is lit up all along the river in an extravagant, and spectacular fashion. Almost a carnival atmosphere. My first time here for it and I'm really grateful for it.

I'll post some great pics in the next few days.

I was wondering if anyone has used Fling there has been a lot of girls that are probably prepagao that I have seen on the site

It is just a question

Jeff's approach is pretty similar to mine, of course they don't necessarily have to quit their gigs, especially if they work in a higher end place where they are not constantly getting run through. I imagine it would be pretty nasty to be with a New Life girl after a long day at work LOL. I work that angle plus the SWs plus just cute girls I see in the Centro. Don't be a creep, but don't be afraid to stop a girl on the street, compliment her and ask for a number. The whiffs will be a lot easier to take knowing a home run is right around the corner.

The only thing I would say is that obviously for that a working level of Spanish is very necessary. I would also say it's important to do little things to win them over, not much but show them you are thoughtful. On the logistical side, I would say get your exams regularly (AIDS / HIV, Syphilis are the big ones, Herpes also I guess). Having those gives girls a lot more confidence if you are trying to bareback, build confidence, etc.