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[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1302463]She came back later (early next morning?) with bruises, a cop and a lawyer, and the guy was arrested and taken to a Puerto Plata cell for the night. The security guard who had let her out said she was in good state when she left so presumably the bruises were inflicted by herself or her chulo.[/QUOTE]Anyone have a pic of this chica? Sounds like she might be one to be avoided.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1302463]Friday night in Sosua a monger (not a vet, but not a newbie either) agreed a price of 2500 pesos for TLN. Took the chica back to Terra Linda for the night. After one pop she pulled the old "leave early" stunt so he would only pay her 1500 pesos for ST. She refused to leave and he threw her out. There was no physical fight as such and she left quietly enough though obviously in a foul mood.
She came back later (early next morning?) with bruises, a cop and a lawyer, and the guy was arrested and taken to a Puerto Plata cell for the night. The security guard who had let her out said she was in good state when she left so presumably the bruises were inflicted by herself or her chulo.
Next day some of the friends he had made on his trips here, plus some very experienced ex-pats, arrived with a lawyer. Eventually they all chipped in to make up US$3500 to get him released and (I think) the charges dropped. The monger left for the US (either because it was his last day anyway or because he was understandably so pissed off with the DR, or because he was now broke, or because it was a condition of his release, I don't know which). I guess he won't be back in a hurry.
The above are the brief facts, though obviously there was a lot more hassle, unpleasantness and complications involved over a 36-hour (?) period.
Some random comments:
136, 500 pesos expended to save 1000, plus a lot of other guys precious holiday time and incidental expenses. Many guys advocate standing up to the chicas and cops and not yielding any ground. This might work 19 times out of 20 but when you look at the cost savings it is not a good bet.
I have no idea whether the guy had been drinking or was stone-cold sober but alcohol is never helpful in such situations.
The management of Terra Linda were totally unhelpful (and wouldn't let the security guard speak on the monger's behalf) but the manager of Rocky's (where the guy was not staying and who did not know the guy from Adam) spent a lot of his time helping. It might have been him who arranged a defence lawyer but don't quote me on that. I can understand Terra Linda's position. They have to carry on their business after the monger is back in the States and they don't want to make enemies of a cop and a lawyer by denying them a payday, but I suspect he would have got more backing from the New Garden and obviously at Rocky's because their whole businesses are reliant on recommendations from mongers whereas TL are trying to position themselves as a family hotel.
This sort of thing could happen in any part of the DR (or in most other corrupt countries as well) but it is far more likely to happen with hard-core putas from the "strip" in Sosua. (I imagine I will get no arguments from Jaosousa on that point). That is one reason why, after my first 2 or 3 trips, I have confined my mongering to Pto Pta, other small towns and the campo.
Kudos to all the guys who chipped in, not with "wise after the event" comments but with their time and a lot of hard cash. Most of them hardly knew the guy but they all realised it could happen to any of us. Had he been a lone wolf he could really have been screwed a lot worse.[/QUOTE]I learned from previous events posted in the forum similar to this one to avoid this situation. As some of you remember from a weeks ago travel report fart chica Vanessa threatened me to call the police if I do not pay the 1, 000 pesos we agreed. I paid her to leave me alone. It could have cost me more. The chica entered without a cedula. She was friends of Sea Breeze security. She also said hi to Terralinda and New Garden Security while we were walking to Sea Breeze. Hotel El Rancho provides a way better security. My mistake was to choose that chica while I was a little drunk so lesson learned: fuck first and drink later.
Rockys manager is a nice guy, I met him last trip, friendly person.
Next trip to DR is going to be this Friday but to Santo Domingo only. I met a couple of pretty Badoo girls who sends me nude pics or shows webcam on a daily basis so it should be a busy weekend.
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1302536]And it's a shame too since this is the only hotel I've stayed at since '10.
I think this has also alerted chicas in Sosua that this is the one hotel that they can pull this shit with guest staying there and get away with it. I can image whole chica / police / lawyer / judge rackets forming around this very con game.[/QUOTE]Stating the obvious, this clearly wasn't her 'debut' at this sort of thing.
Apparently, this girl and her accomplices liked their odds at Terra Linda based on history.
Stay at the Europa. Wouldn't pass the laugh test over there.
[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1302631]I learned from previous events posted in the forum similar to this one to avoid this situation. As some of you remember from a weeks ago travel report fart chica Vanessa threatened me to call the police if I do not pay the 1, 000 pesos we agreed. I paid her to leave me alone. It could have cost me more. The chica entered without a cedula. She was friends of Sea Breeze security. She also said hi to Terralinda and New Garden Security while we were walking to Sea Breeze. Hotel El Rancho provides a way better security. My mistake was to choose that chica while I was a little drunk so lesson learned: fuck first and drink later.
Rockys manager is a nice guy, I met him last trip, friendly person.
Next trip to DR is going to be this Friday but to Santo Domingo only. I met a couple of pretty Badoo girls who sends me nude pics or shows webcam on a daily basis so it should be a busy weekend.[/QUOTE]How long are you staying in Santo Doming Boricua? I'll be in there on Monday for two weeks. Looking to hook up with some quality chicas. Since your a senior member maybe you can point me in the right direction.
Thanks
In most cases the chica are way more afraid 0f the policia then we are for good reason. Tourista are precious in the dr. It takes serious balls for cop the fuck with a tourist. They never know who a rich american may know. Where as a puta is a puta.
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1302498]How exactly did he throw her out? She was leaving anyway. Or was this just a figurative throwing out?
Where were the bruises? Evidence of finger marks, or blows?
The DR is having a big old publicity campaign against physical violence against women at this time and it looks like this guy might have gotten sucked into something that got out of control.
I always say don't bother with all-nighters unless you know the chica well. Too many pitfalls and potential for misunderstandings or deception.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coalburner69; 1302639]Stating the obvious, this clearly wasn't her 'debut' at this sort of thing.
Apparently, this girl and her accomplices liked their odds at Terra Linda based on history.
Stay at the Europa. Wouldn't pass the laugh test over there.[/QUOTE]Been staying at Europa since 2001, I think I'm one of the last "oldies" that still stays there, they usually give me large room, sometimes the jacuzzi room if its available at the same cash price as any other room, the rooms are huge, the ac works well and they keep it clean. If you bring your own pillow its more than "good enough". I get free muffins and water in the lobby, they change dollars right there at the front desk at a fair rate and sell beer water and soda right there as well.
Diego when sober, well even drunk Diego would have definitely gone to bat for you. He knows every single police and politur that I think any b1tches would have known better, heck even the security guards would have gone to bat for you. Only had to remove 1 chica in 11 years there. Wanted more than the agreed upon price, threatened to call the police, I called her bluff then the security guy more as a witness while things started to get loud. She left after a little struggle and name calling but looking atit in hindsight maybe I should have paid her the 500 pesos. Because I was kind weary that she might shank me when I'm not looking. Or if I go to barrio in charamicos, sosua abajo, maranata, hey you never know. Peace of mind is priceless!
[QUOTE=OldKool;1302643]In most cases the chica are way more afraid 0f the policia then we are for good reason. Tourista are precious in the dr. It takes serious balls for cop the fuck with a tourist. They never know who a rich american may know. Where as a puta is a puta.[/QUOTE]I do not concur, many guys have no clue who is who and fold when under pressure. If you do not speak a lick of Spanish and the tainted twat knows the security guy you are SOL.
It is a very small crime ring that these chicas run with politur and the hotel security. So unless you are actually connected I suggest you STFU and pay the girl the extra RD500 or RD1000 to leave and call it a night.
It pays to actually "interview" who you bring to your room over one or two beers. This is not Kansas Dorothy.
[QUOTE=OldKool;1302643]In most cases the chica are way more afraid 0f the policia then we are for good reason. Tourista are precious in the dr. It takes serious balls for cop the fuck with a tourist. They never know who a rich american may know. Where as a puta is a puta.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if this is your point but let me assure you a man was arrested because of a Chica, and I saw the group handling it as well as Rick from Rockies. Now what really happened behind closed doors between her and him, well none of us really know unless one of his close friends can chime in or maybe himself. But from what I was hearing she was scamming him.
And just on a side note I would sit in Mergengar (sp) bar often from 11:00am until 3pm. No body in the place, 90% of the time just me. I watched on several occasions Federal Police get off their bikes and go into bars across the street and do some hard core flirting with the girls in the bar for over an hour. Before everything else I heard down there it made me uneasy.
Side note2- Rockys is a great place to say for many reasons, highly recommend if you dont demand a 5 star room!
[QUOTE=OldKool;1302643]In most cases the chica are way more afraid 0f the policia then we are for good reason. Tourista are precious in the dr. It takes serious balls for cop the fuck with a tourist. They never know who a rich american may know. Where as a puta is a puta.[/QUOTE]Firstly this story was witnessed in most of its stages by numerous reliable witnesses so it is no urban legend. The one thing we don't know first-hand is the most critical part, what exactly transpired in the privacy of the monger's room.
More generally your comments are way off target.
Yes, the chicas are afraid of the police, but that makes it all the more likely that this sort of scam will happen. You can bet your life that the chica saw very little of the US$3500. The bulk would have gone to the lawyer and one or more cops and other officials. But even if she only got US$500 that would still be a good payday for her (19500 pesos). She didn't just go looking for a cop and a lawyer. She would have already known reliably bent ones and they may have pulled similar stunts before. After this success they and other "teams" will be keen to try their luck, so watch out.
Tourists may be precious to the DR but the lowlife on the streets of Sosua don't take that attitude. We are just targets and marks to them. And local Dominicans not benefitting from the sex-trade despise us and want us out of the town. The tiny contribution that the gringo sex trade makes to the DR's overall economy is not worth the way it smears the country's reputation, especially now that the US and many international organisations are controlled by, or in terror of, puritanical religious loonies.
Cops will not fuck with respectable tourists in the AIs or going around in organized tours but they have no hesitation in doing so with loners off the tourist beat or the despised mongers of Sosua. The PN in the DR are now totally out of control and there is no effective chain of authority or discipline so the street cops think they can get away with anything, especially if they are desperate for money or on drugs.
[QUOTE=Doker44;1302656]And just on a side note I would sit in Mergengar (sp) bar often from 11:00am until 3pm. No body in the place, 90% of the time just me. I watched on several occasions Federal Police get off their bikes and go into bars across the street and do some hard core flirting with the girls in the bar for over an hour.[/QUOTE]Why is it that they (the Police) have been hanging out in front of Merengue Bar so often? When I was there in May they had their asses stationed right in the middle of the walk way from about 3pm on. Every damn day I was there. The chicas wouldn't even walk past the place! That used to be my spot to sit at early evening and flirt with chicas as they passed by (pre-crackdown). But after about 30 minutes of drinking at Merengue (around 4pm) and noticing chicas not walking by because of the police, I went over to Rumba Bar and drank there.
Damn, when I walk by Merengue at 11am to 1pm I always see the dog sleeping at the bottom of the steps to Classicos I always thought that dog was daytime security LOL.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1302671]Why is it that they (the Police) have been hanging out in front of Merengue Bar so often? When I was there in May they had their asses stationed right in the middle of the walk way from about 3pm on. Every damn day I was there. The chicas wouldn't even walk past the place! That used to be my spot to sit at early evening and flirt with chicas as they passed by (pre-crackdown). But after about 30 minutes of drinking at Merengue (around 4pm) and noticing chicas not walking by because of the police, I went over to Rumba Bar and drank there.[/QUOTE]Maybe Rumba is paying the police to stand their, drawing the chicas, and therefore the customers to Rumba.
Charles is absolutely correct. I have met people who have been scammed, locked up and even run out of town by police and their friends. You're talking about a country where countless people are disappeared every year. There's a reason the AI's around Punta Cana are away from the cities and towns and surrounded by prison fence. And there's a reason you aren't in those AI's. Keep your eyes open and stay safe.
After reading all the great reports, including the ones about the scam. Something to be aware of. I'am planning a trip to the D. R. For sometime in 2013. I plan on staying at either bb or fod for three nights, then over to Sosua for either four or five nights. My question is, does anyone know how much a taxi would be from either bb or fod to Sosua? I will have a suitcase so I think I will need a taxi unless there is another form of transportation availiable.
Thanks in advance,
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[QUOTE=Quackup;1303056]My question is, does anyone know how much a taxi would be from either bb or fod to Sosua? I will have a suitcase so I think I will need a taxi unless there is another form of transportation available.[/QUOTE]How long is a piece of string?
If you want to go cheaply and your suitcase is just a carry on, go to the hospital taxi terminus and take a public taxis for $1, or if you want to travel in style pay $2 and have 2 seats to yourself (I. E. 1 whole seat to yourself).
If you want to ride in air-conditioned style with a reclining seat and with a large suitcase, you can get the Metro (better, because it ends in the center of Sosua) or Caribe tours buses for just a few dollars from their terminus in the center of Puerto Plata (less than $5, I think). However a taxi to get you to the bus station will cost more than the bus.
If you want the total luxury of door-to-door service in a taxi, then US$40 to US$60 should get the job done, FOD being at the lower end, and BB at the higher end.
I know a guy who drives an unmarked taxi van who would take you for a reasonable rate from FOD (not sure if he can pick up at BB because of the taxi cartel) , who is my personal chauffeur and incredibly reliable. I can't put his phone number here, but when he was in prison his cell number was eight-oh-nine (his age was) forty-four (and his height was) six two (and his date of birth) 4/24. I cannot quote you an exact price, because you would have to negotiate it yourself, but I think probably no more than $40 (1500 pesos). Diesel is about 200 pesos a gallon, though sometimes he gets it from a backyard gas station for 160, so you can't expect a completely free ride as the diesel for the round trip is probably 2 or 3 gallons alone.