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[QUOTE=Mjolnir 213; 1399286]In the Phillippines, family is very important. It comes before anything else.

Refusing a family member who asks for help is also something they find difficult.

The harsh reality is that many of them go back with not much than they came here with.

It is difficult for a young girl to say this to her elders. That is considered disrespectful, but actually its just a bunch of BS designed to emotionally blackmail these girls.

As my friend Wicked Roger has told me many times, with filis, always keep the pimp hand strong and you will be ok.

I trust that you now have a better understanding than you did before.

WB[/QUOTE]Good assessment. Many working here are unmarried mothers and 'forced' to support the family such as lazy pinoy brother and cousins as she is 'rich' as she work for a pittance (not what they think) in the UAE. Family are generally money grabbing and live for the moment and if you thinK I am wrong go and ask a pinay and over time you see it is true.

An old playmate was asked would she marry a pinoy and she said "No, why as they will not work, drink, smoke be lazy and spend all my cash. And their dicks are too small LOL" But she was right (in all areas!) as she has seen it happen as I have in the Philippines with families doing zero to help themselves while daughter does 12 hours a day in a mall etc.

Need to be firm, be kind hearted at times (I have been and still am) but never let the greedy relatives into the mix. Mate was in Cebu and went to see his cutie's family an ended up paying for 38 people, meal and drinks. Was a big surprise and never again did ignore WR's advice on this

[QUOTE=Snow1998; 1399646]I always wonder if the WGs and regulars had a forum what and how they would be discussing about us mongers. Morals among mongers now thats something to put in your pipe and smoke. I'm a longtime fili fav and always prefer to give in return for what I get. I am fully aware of the fili sob story and how life is back home etc etc. Like WB I have what I consider a charity going in the Phils. A girl I met here (non WG) who is now back home with her 2 kids and living in a nice a / see 3bed house in a community, kids enjoying private education. She fully understands my situation with the family and manages on a monthly allowance of 25Kpeso. The house of course is being paid for by me. Absolutely no demands and in fact I have learnt some good lessons in life from the way she lives. But on to the subject here I have "helped" several WGs settle their due and get back on promises of not returning for the same job. 1 for certain I know was back twice and she had excuses for that which I didn't believe. 1 for certain I know has a job back home and is ever so grateful for my help. The rest I don't know. I tend to treat all of them as GFE and don't for one moment think of it as business for them. Only 1 WG I took from Dubai to AUH turned out to be a complete failure with a strict business attitude, I brought her back. If there is any person who can actually claim they are not greedy for money then such a person is a saint. Greed is not a suitable word to use in this instance. Its more of a want. Even 1dh is worth ten times more to them than to us (me). Tip the guy who cleans the MENs in Ratsky with a few dhs and you will see it in his face. Drop a few dhs to any cleaner or roadside worker and the gratitude in their eyes tells you what that means to them. Its not greed. Many may not agree with me on these points but lets not forget after all we are all human and whatever job / race / color we all bleed red. Come to think about it sex is not free and should not be. In fact sex with a WG is the cheaper way to do it. You may think you don't pay your wife for sex but believe me you are paying for it much more and in so many different ways. If a GF or WG is able to sucker in a monger and fleece him then he has nobody but himself to blame.

Rant over.

No offence intended to anyone.[/QUOTE]Sad but true and very touchy indeed.

[QUOTE=Snow1998; 1399646]I always wonder if the WGs and regulars had a forum what and how they would be discussing about us mongers. Morals among mongers now thats something to put in your pipe and smoke. I'm a longtime fili fav and always prefer to give in return for what I get. I am fully aware of the fili sob story and how life is back home etc etc. Like WB I have what I consider a charity going in the Phils. A girl I met here (non WG) who is now back home with her 2 kids and living in a nice a / see 3bed house in a community, kids enjoying private education. She fully understands my situation with the family and manages on a monthly allowance of 25Kpeso. The house of course is being paid for by me. Absolutely no demands and in fact I have learnt some good lessons in life from the way she lives. But on to the subject here I have "helped" several WGs settle their due and get back on promises of not returning for the same job. 1 for certain I know was back twice and she had excuses for that which I didn't believe. 1 for certain I know has a job back home and is ever so grateful for my help. The rest I don't know. I tend to treat all of them as GFE and don't for one moment think of it as business for them. Only 1 WG I took from Dubai to AUH turned out to be a complete failure with a strict business attitude, I brought her back. If there is any person who can actually claim they are not greedy for money then such a person is a saint. Greed is not a suitable word to use in this instance. Its more of a want. Even 1dh is worth ten times more to them than to us (me). Tip the guy who cleans the MENs in Ratsky with a few dhs and you will see it in his face. Drop a few dhs to any cleaner or roadside worker and the gratitude in their eyes tells you what that means to them. Its not greed. Many may not agree with me on these points but lets not forget after all we are all human and whatever job / race / color we all bleed red. Come to think about it sex is not free and should not be. In fact sex with a WG is the cheaper way to do it. You may think you don't pay your wife for sex but believe me you are paying for it much more and in so many different ways. If a GF or WG is able to sucker in a monger and fleece him then he has nobody but himself to blame.

Rant over.

No offence intended to anyone.[/QUOTE]No offense taken, I agree with some part of what you say above, anyway everybody does as he seems fit with his money. And if you put your mind on a charity mode with them, great deed you doing.

I personally would rather help a cleaner than a girl who choose to sell her body partly to help family but also lot of them to live the life (shopping, club.) or just being lazy to have a real work.

As an example, I currently see a fili for free (tipping her here and there) , she had to pay back the person who bring her here 20, 000, she did so in one month of prostitution, then found a job quite quickly.

She has paid accommodation (but she choose to live out obviously to go out as she feels and get 1, 000 instead) , paid meals and transportation and make 3, 000 a month + some quarterly commission. She has been working there as sales for 3 months and already complaining as she wants a raise.

She is working 10am to 19, 5 days a week.

That girl, go out 3 times a week and get on average 700 per client. So at least 11, 000 per month.

I asked her why she would not just quit prostitution as she clearly had enough to live herself and even send a bit back home, she said she needed to send 10, 000 pesos every week for her little sister, little brother and parents. I asked her why would they need such a big amount of money, she said, if she can why not?

That answer kind of pissed me off. Because most of those fili will keep on acting like they got no choice, but they often put themselves into that position. If she has told family she could only send 10, 000 pesos a month they would have just have no choice. And she would have got a decent life, probably found a decent BF who could help her a bit too.

I went through so many fili like that. That's why I am not taking a "charity approach" with any of them. There is millions of people I prefer to help rather than them. I may choose to help them the day I have no remote family, friends, co-workers, child in need, in my entourage.

4 years ago, I had a fili GF, I stayed 9 months with her, she had a good job, was making about 15, 000dhs a month and her family was not in need at all. But every time I was making my grocery she would come with me and throw some stuff in the caddy and she would never buy by herself (expensive make-up, fake nails, gadget.) that just really pissed me off this way of doing. And this is really proper to filipina.

My conclusion: FILI GIRLS ARE GREEDY. PERIOD.

[QUOTE=IAintSpecial; 1399638]Seems she knew that you was going to pay no matter what. The trick is never say its your first time. Say you visit massage place all the time and that if she gives you good service that you will come back. Next time do not take the same girl ask for one of the others and if they refuse to take 100 tell them no deal then. No way they will refuse.

Glad you enjoyed it.[/QUOTE]In fact I didn't speak that much. Just basic stuffs. For at least few minutes I hang on at 100Aed bu she was over me and insisting a lot.

Anyway the massage was really good so happy in the end.

[QUOTE=DubaiMan2;1399744]My conclusion: FILI GIRLS ARE GREEDY. PERIOD.[/QUOTE]You show from this FR you do not understand pinays at all or what drives them to act like this. Read the PI board at length you may get a better idea of how the family are greedy NOT the girls, how the family do sod all and make more demands and how the family is the lifeblood of everything they are born and raised to believe in. The gilr has limited choice and can't say no to the family.

Greedy (and lazy) are the countless CIS WGs on which so many have writen bad FRs, these CIS girls are not GFE, never will be, always commercial and liars IMHO (read the countless FRs if you think I am incorrect)

Visit the Philippines see the abject poverty and then say what you say with some knowledge. If a pinay sees you as a soft touch (and many of us are kind hearted I agree) she will play on that so you have yourself to blame DM2.

My two cents for the morning!

A 1. 82 tall 8/10 Ukrainian from Regal told me that she it was her first day in Regal and she did not like it as it is too full and bit rough. She told me that she usually goes to Russian Club in Capitol Hotel where most girls are form CIS countries and going rate is AED 1000 to AED 1500. Rate inflation probably was in her favour. Could any local please explore the scene?

Reports of Dubai trip will follow in a couple of days

I must say that this whole topic has been very intriguing and various differing opinions certainly emphasize the fact that this forum attracts a widely diverse group, which is a good thing. There's something for everyone. In any case, I just want to thank all the regulars and seniors for the wealth of information that helps many of us on a regular basis.

As for me, I'm getting ready for my Dubai trip in a couple weeks and am definitely going to take some interest in Fillis. In seriousness, I usually make 1-2 trips a year to Dubai and prices have been going up like crazy every time I come. Moreover, services have been unpredictable but again thanks to seniors like Dubai Man and WB for sharing a couple of contacts. I'll surely be trying those, at least there's little to no risk of bad service. Would appreciate any other recommendations via PM as well. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Mjolnir 213; 1399692]"It's only massage baby. Really!" Cute. I told her that I didn't really mind what she got up to and wished her a safe night.

When I first met her a few days ago, she mentioned she wanted to leave Dubai and not return once her visa ran out.

It would seem she is reconsidering this and now is looking to stay on.[/QUOTE]So typical. If you follow my antics in the Abu Dhabi thread you know I'm a big advocate of striking an arrangement with a "short time queen" to do as many as she can for the evening and then come and sleep with me. This produces bargain rates and a relationship that is more like a friend who understands. What amazes me is how many insist for such a long time that they "went with another girl and she fucked him" that "it was only for massage" etc etc. It's a real break through when they finally understand that you don't give a damn and it's fine that they fuck 2 or 3 guys before you eat their pussy. When they get to the point where they tell you about the evening's tricks you move on to a new plateau which generally is very nice.

Ahhh the "I want to go home but maybe now I'm coming back". Easy money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac. Hmmm where have I heard that.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1399888]You show from this FR you do not understand pinays at all or what drives them to act like this. Read the PI board at length you may get a better idea of how the family are greedy NOT the girls, how the family do sod all and make more demands and how the family is the lifeblood of everything they are born and raised to believe in. The gilr has limited choice and can't say no to the family.![/QUOTE]Yes, it is true that families put lot of pressure. But is also true that the girls go the "easy way" and do not push back (DM's claim)

I also think that he is wrong, it is not so much that the girls are greedy but that when given the choice of either fighting their family pressure or trying to screw you, they will chose to screw you even if that jeopardizes the full relationship. In my book that is not so much greediness but short-termism (or being dumb, but I am in good mood and it is already 10AM). But hey we are in Dubai. We do not do long-term here.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1399888]Greedy (and lazy) are the countless CIS WGs on which so many have writen bad FRs, these CIS girls are not GFE, never will be, always commercial and liars IMHO (read the countless FRs if you think I am incorrect)[/QUOTE]And yet I have had CIS girls ride me, literally, to their exhaustion (you know I am not an easy client) They have offered me all kind of extras (rimming me for 30 minutes while I fuck their tits)

Or asking me to be rough, spank them, pull their hair while they are on their knees. CIS can give a great experience. If they chose so. And some of them are quite reliable, I had several but only one is still in Dubai.

Filis provide a somehow different proposition, less risky (but my last experience was quite so-so) but upside is more limited, few have great bodies for example. In fact most filis are what another poster described "burger king fills", yes I know you score better. But an average punter in Dubai is going to find 20-30 BK-filis that will provide an uninspiring performance on a below average body, for each star. So for an average punter, I do not think the differences are so big (but filis will seldom get drunk to the point of falling in the bathroom)

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1399888]Visit the Philippines see the abject poverty and then say what you say with some knowledge. If a pinay sees you as a soft touch (and many of us are kind hearted I agree) she will play on that so you have yourself to blame DM2.

My two cents for the morning![/QUOTE]Hummm. Visit the Stans. Not the land of milk and honey either. And if pinay girls finally asked (the mainly kabayan) guys to fuck them with a condom then poverty rates would drop fast. After all the best measure against poverty is reducing the number of poor people, one way or another.

In the end the main shortcoming of the fills is their inability to push back on greedy families or little-dicked boyfriends who refuse to use condoms.

And their main selling point is their attempt to please you by never pushing back.

Two sides of the same coin, methinks. You need to understand that you can not have one without the other and that you will need to manage this. Something you, and a few other punters are certainly very good at doing.

But I think you could have achieved similar results, if you had applied your natural talent for debauchery to other ethnic and national groups if fate had brought you to Moscow and not to Abu Dhabi.

[QUOTE=Cons68; 1399988]Hummm. Visit the Stans. Not the land of milk and honey either. And if pinay girls finally asked (the mainly kabayan) guys to fuck them with a condom then poverty rates would drop fast. After all the best measure against poverty is reducing the number of poor people, one way or another.

In the end the main shortcoming of the fills is their inability to push back on greedy families or little-dicked boyfriends who refuse to use condoms.

And their main selling point is their attempt to please you by never pushing back.

Two sides of the same coin, methinks. You need to understand that you can not have one without the other and that you will need to manage this. Something you, and a few other punters are certainly very good at doing.

But I think you could have achieved similar results, if you had applied your natural talent for debauchery to other ethnic and national groups if fate had brought you to Moscow and not to Abu Dhabi.[/QUOTE]I am of the same view as Cons here.

While I do like filis, I also have had great experiences with some Stani and CIS girls in the past.

Also some very good PRC ones.

And I have had my share of lackluster and irritating sessions with filis as well.

We are only able to make broad generalizations and there are always exceptions.

Not sure about you guys, but with any girl, a good time usually boils down to good chemistry and more importantly, mutual respect. That goes for WG's and non WG's too.

[QUOTE=Cons68; 1399988]Yes, it is true that families put lot of pressure. But is also true that the girls go the "easy way" and do not push back (DM's claim)

I also think that he is wrong, it is not so much that the girls are greedy but that when given the choice of either fighting their family pressure or trying to screw you, they will chose to screw you even if that jeopardizes the full relationship. In my book that is not so much greediness but short-termism (or being dumb, but I am in good mood and it is already 10AM). But hey we are in Dubai. We do not do long-term here.[/QUOTE]To Wicked roger. As I said, it is MY CONCLUSION. You may have your own!

I do not deny all the other quality fili may have but I find them greedy as hell. If we compare with Thailand, thai girl are certainly less GFE overall. But they got pride and are not trying to get money from you as much as fili do.

I am certainly not a soft guy, hence I never really fall into their trap, but just them trying got me exhausted of fili.

Also, I do not deny the pressure they may have from family, but once again, most of them as cons68 said, would rather screw a few guys rather than just keeping the hope of their family reasonable. Just look at the real example below I gave you guys.

I got a very close childhood friend living in cebu for last 6 years. When I told him about the stuff I'm thinking about fili, he was totally agree with me, he emphasised that family of people abroad tend to be lazy and expect the money to come over every month. But told me that even girls there with good jobs tend to be like this.

[QUOTE=DubaiMan2;1400010]Also, I do not deny the pressure they may have from family, but once again, most of them as cons68 said, would rather screw a few guys rather than just keeping the hope of their family reasonable.[/QUOTE]From experience and having lots of decent middle class Filipino friends working in Dubai, I can tell you that this trend is found MAINLY with girls coming from poor families. Should be pretty self explanatory really.

An educated middle class filipina in a decent job does not behave this way, and perhaps your fili GF from was just a disrespectful person that saw you as a walking ATM.

In fact, decent Filipino people will be shy to ask for anything, are honest and hardworking, will always be polite (sometimes TOO polite) and are generally very warm and hospitable people that will go out of their way to make you feel comfortable if you are their guest. IF they respect you and you show them the same courtesy, they are great people to be around.

Often if I go out with some filipinos here, they have not allowed me to pay even for my own food and drinks.

That being said, most of the opinions on this board are based on fili WG's and most of the time, they do not come from well off families, are from broken homes, need to support fatherless kids etc.

You mentioned Thai girls and having been to Thailand several times since I have relatives there, I can tell you that the same situation exists there and perhaps even more so.

The WG's and lower class girls are way more mercenary than in PI and you are more likely to be cheated or scammed there than in the Philippines.

The sad stories and lies etc. Are all the same.

Like with any nationality, it just depends on which class you choose to associate with.

I'm not strictly talking about WG's here. When it comes to WG's we all know why we are with them and what we want.

This is more in response to the allusion that ALL filipinas are "greedy", stupid, ignorant, manipulative etc.

You will of course meet mainly the lower class girls in the bars, malls etc. Dubai is a place that runs on cheap third world labour so you will not easily meet the pretty, sexy middle class filipinas from good families.

They are either already in good relationships with handsome and hardworking Filipino guys, or aiming higher than dirty mongers like us.

Also, I would like to add that in the Philippines, contrary to what you hear, most girls are very decent and conservative. Even the poor ones. It's just that you mainly hear about the slutty ones since that's what we men are most interested in. It's a common misconception that people have and I have seen several guys here in the UAE treat filipinas disrespectfully. You then get an understanding as to why some of them don't have problems milking a guy as much as possible.

The game can be played both ways after all, and if you are not able to see the train wreck coming, you probably deserve what you get and then put it down as a life lesson.

I understand DM2 that your opinion is based on your own experiences and I can respect that. Just trying to offer others a different perspective.

WB

[QUOTE=Nice Guy 99; 1399944]So typical. If you follow my antics in the Abu Dhabi thread you know I'm a big advocate of striking an arrangement with a "short time queen" to do as many as she can for the evening and then come and sleep with me. This produces bargain rates and a relationship that is more like a friend who understands. What amazes me is how many insist for such a long time that they "went with another girl and she fucked him" that "it was only for massage" etc etc. It's a real break through when they finally understand that you don't give a damn and it's fine that they fuck 2 or 3 guys before you eat their pussy. When they get to the point where they tell you about the evening's tricks you move on to a new plateau which generally is very nice.

Ahhh the "I want to go home but maybe now I'm coming back". Easy money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac. Hmmm where have I heard that.[/QUOTE]I had a similar thing going with a girl a while back. Some of you may remember her as the fili with massive boobs and geeky glasses. Very sweet and fun girl and total pornstar in bed when turned on.

She would hang out with me, go off for a couple of hours on a call and come back with details of how the session went.

Some good laughs there.

Sometimes she would take a phonecall from a customer and want me to go down on her or finger her.

She became a good friend over the month or so we had together and we still keep in touch even though she is elsewhere now. Neurones and Accipiters, Oilrich and some others might remember her and her sister fondly.

I actually had threesomes with them on occasion and it was a major turn on since they would literally fight over my cock.

Bon Temps!

Pity they are not here as they were very sweet girls and loads of fun.

Also miss a lot of forum buddies from those days. In particular Steve DXB, Piper, CJ and Lostwodpun.

WB

[QUOTE=Cons68;1399988]But I think you could have achieved similar results, if you had applied your natural talent for debauchery to other ethnic and national groups if fate had brought you to Moscow and not to Abu Dhabi.[/QUOTE]WR in Moscow. Now there's a thought!

I imagine the "wardrobe" and collection of kinky apparatus would need to be upsized a bit though.

LOL!

WB

last monday i was there at the al rigga area in deira. checked in to ramee gustline hotel near the tube station. the hotel was average. this was recommend by a friend due to action. it is very girl friendly. no cards for lift and no questions asked. had a wash and came out of the room. there were many bars in ground floor and the first floor. after checking out all settled at the first floor spice girls. you can order dinner here also at reasonable cost. it was around 10:00 pm. this hotel had many philippnos not my first choice. i ordered dinner, drinks *and settled down. while having dinner there were couple of them approached me, which i declined. there were couple of eastern europeans. after dinner approached them. talking to them the asking price was 1000 aed for the full night. there were not many guys there. girls outnumbered guys there by 3:1. it was clear that the demand is low offered the girls 500 for the night. both of them refused my offer. i told them my room number and if they are interested deal is on till midnight. it was around 11 then. it was a gamble but i knew that i could come down at midnight and get another girl. *around five minutes passes midnight there was a knock on the door the better one out of the two i offered was there. she said 500 till morning no anal, there pops. i was ok, told her i will only pay in the morning, i have to persuade her a bit for that. i know if you pay they go in night. i put my wallet, phone and passport in the locker in front of her. she was off to the shower. she was tall, early twenties average size books but a big butt. when came out i got her to kneel down next to the mirror and give a bbbj. she was ok without a hat after a bit of persuasion. she gave a good head. while the bj is on there was another knock. it was the other girl but had to sent her back. after that *got in to the bed and finish in missionary. then bit of chatting and i started sucking tits, *fingering and rubbing my cock in her belly. she sucked me to a another erection and on a had and rode me, then i finished her in doggie. i was tired and wanted to sleep hugging her great body. she wanted the money and leave. i said one in the morning, she protested and wanted to have the third pop at that time. i refused to get up and slept. *got up around 7in the morning. washed peed and came to bed and rubbed my cock in her ass crack. she got up peed and came back. gave me the superb blow job. then started fucking her hard. i am very horny in the mornings and usually wake up with a massive hard on. finish soon. she went to shower. when came out i gave her money and she left. cost 500 aed for 3 pops 7 hours sleepover*girl 9/10 perfect skin, long legs flat tummy. *tips :- wait when the demand is low, bargain when possible*be safe :- all valuables in the safepay in the morning if you want *to keep her till morning.