Cartagena Reports

Bring my trip to a close. The new hustle is additional tip on top of the included tip.

Now, every restaurant I go to, they always have either a service fee or propina on the receipt that's included automatically. Now on this trip multiple times at multiple places I've had the person whose in charge of the table tell me that the tip / service fee / propina that's on the receipt is not for them, but its for the restaurant and any cash tip I provide is for them. Like really? I'm paying with card, and my cash is for the chicas, taxi, and coconut guy when I see him.

Everyone got a hustle these days.

[QUOTE=Peter74;2794634]Since I didn't have much success with the first 2 chicas (I will probably tell the full story later), the third one was much better. Venezolana, quite pretty, never had children, so you can imagine that her chocha was quite tight. And very hot in bed, when I have come, she manages to come twice. She's new in town without proper documents and didn't even know where La plaza de la Trinidad was, so next day we had to meet at the Clock tower, the only place she knew.

We met every day for 5 days straight, sometimes twice per day and by now I unloaded more than 1,5 million pesos in her purse. Not counting paying for restaurants (including very good ones like San Nicolas) and taxi. I was seriously considering taking her for entire day on a trip to the islands (she charges $150 for the whole day) or something more serious.

At the end of our penultimate encounter she asked for 50 mil more in addition to the regular pay 250 mil. She said that she needed to meet her rent deadline pay. I knew that it was No-No thing and first didn't want to give her an advance but then I decided to go for some kind of an experiment. I was 50% sure that she is trying to screw me but 50% still believed in her common sense. Could she be so stupid? After all 50 mil ($12) is nothing for me and I could afford to spend it for an interesting scientific experiment.

Next day I gave her 200 mil saying that I paid 50 mil yesterday in advance. She made a surprised face and said that was a gift I gave her. I insisted that I wasn't stupid and remember very well her rent problem. She insisted on her version of events..[/QUOTE]A lot of these girls are so dumb when it comes to future prospects, they have no idea the difference between long term money and short term gain. Their mindset is "I'm young and a new gringo will always be at the clocktower to get more money from".

She literary gave up a chance to earn more money in the long run from a trusted client since you took her multiple times over 5 days over 50 mil. SMH.

Sooner or later she will message you and ask for money. Count on it.

50 k pesos is nothing for us, but it is a huge amount for the vast majority of Colombians. Most Colombians do not earn 50 k for an honest day's work. If you give a girl the option, she will take the money. You aren't going to marry her and take her out of the life, so she'll be a prostitute for the rest of her life as long as someone buys it. This is a business and her job is to screw you, literally and figuratively.

Unless you block her, the muchacha will definitely reach out to you to see if you're down to see her again. You decide if you want to, but principles here mean absolutely nothing. Leave your American sensibilities at home. This is dog eat dog, and everyone is going to try to get over on you. The waitress, the taxi driver, everyone. It's the culture here.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2794648]Bring my trip to a close. The new hustle is additional tip on top of the included tip.

Now, every restaurant I go to, they always have either a service fee or propina on the receipt that's included automatically. Now on this trip multiple times at multiple places I've had the person whose in charge of the table tell me that the tip / service fee / propina that's on the receipt is not for them, but its for the restaurant and any cash tip I provide is for them. Like really? I'm paying with card, and my cash is for the chicas, taxi, and coconut guy when I see him.

Everyone got a hustle these days.[/QUOTE]I always ask if the tip is included. Maybe it is because I am always out with my Colombian gal, but they have never pulled that stunt about "the tips do not go to me". I can see why it would work though and have many people fall for it.

I agree. Everyone has a hustle especially there.

[QUOTE=Peter74;2794634]Venezolana, quite pretty, never had children, so you can imagine that her chocha was quite tight.[/QUOTE]Uhh no I can't. How tight someone's vagina is has as much to do with them having children as the tightness of someone's asshole has to do with how many shits they take per day.

[QUOTE=Peter74;2794634]At the end of our penultimate encounter she asked for 50 mil more in addition to the regular pay 250 mil. She said that she needed to meet her rent deadline pay. I knew that it was No-No thing and first didn't want to give her an advance but then I decided to go for some kind of an experiment. Could she be that stupid?[/QUOTE]Experiment? Her the stupid one? You are buying pussy, not writing a psychology dissertation. I don't get the little games and tests with hookers. Keep it simple. Fuck them and pay them and repeat. Everybody knows the frog and scorpion story. They are there for money. If you want to test someone out then let it be a normal chick you are interested in and want to take things farther with, not someone you are paying to fuck. Stop trying to solve a mystery of something that is already cut and dry.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2794655]A lot of these girls are so dumb when it comes to future prospects, they have no idea the difference between long term money and short term gain.[/QUOTE]Chicks in Thailand are not asking for any tips. I merely drop them off the next morning and hand them their $30 and they say see you soon. No analyzing or PhD needed.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2794648]Now on this trip multiple times at multiple places I've had the person whose in charge of the table tell me that the tip / service fee / propina that's on the receipt is not for them, but its for the restaurant and any cash tip I provide is for them. Like really? [/QUOTE]I think that is true, or at least partially it is. Even in the US there was recently a court case that decided any type of service charge goes to the restaurant, not the server as you may logically think. And in places like Thailand, whatever you put inside of the book is to be shared amongst everyone, but what you put directly into a person's hand is personally for them.

I would randomly ask someone at a restaurant I am not eating at or a local customer or even a hotel receptionist to be sure. I don't think that Colombians are giving big tips like that anyway. They just tend to leave the pocket change if anything. But if you are going to a place where a lot of foreigners and tourists eat then they are probably expecting the tips to come the American way, like a significant percentage of the bill.

[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2794693]Leave your American sensibilities at home. This is dog eat dog, and everyone is going to try to get over on you. The waitress, the taxi driver, EVERYONE. It's the culture here.[/QUOTE]I suspect you are referring to it being the monger or tourist culture of Cartagena and not overall Colombian culture. My experience in Colombian culture is not at all of anyone trying to get over on me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2794700]I always ask if the tip is included. Maybe it is because I am always out with my Colombian gal, but they have never pulled that stunt about "the tips do not go to me". I can see why it would work though and have many people fall for it.

I agree. Everyone has a hustle especially there.[/QUOTE]LOL guys, they more than likely don't get the tip! Now I'm definitely not saying you should be obligated to tip on top, my point is far from it, BUT I guarantee you they aren't lying or trying to hustle you when they say they don't get the tip. Most immigrant owned restaurants here in NYC and their bus boys, and waiters / waitresses (generally barely speak english) don't get tips. Immigrants (I. E. Indians and Chinese) keep their employees on a leash here. It's not the same as your local Applebees or Cheesecake factory. Therefore, It's not far fetched to think third world or second world countries, uneducated restaurant owners with a slave mentality and no labor laws enforced, don't pass their workers the tips. But again, I'm not saying you are obligated to go thru with the additional tip

Sorry to ask this here, but most of you know I've contributed in past with 3-4 trip reports (another coming first week of august hahaha) , so just wondering if anyone can help me out here as I got ignored in the RIO thread lol. I'm going there in a couple weeks, and all I want to know is if anyone knows similar spots to LDV and Space of Cartagena. I read about the termas, spas, strip clubs, etc. , but more interested in a LDV type setup.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2794807]wondering if anyone can help me out here as I got ignored in the RIO thread lol. I'm going there in a couple weeks, and all I want to know is if anyone knows similar spots to LDV and Space of Cartagena. I read about the termas, spas, strip clubs, etc. , but more interested in a LDV type setup.[/QUOTE]If you had read the Rio thread you would know there is a place with pretty much the same name. Maybe that is why you were ignored.

[QUOTE=Peter74;2794634]....So, I gave her a choice: here is 50 mil and we won't see each other anymore, or she forgets the "gift" thing and we meet again. To my surprise she went for 50 mil.....[/QUOTE]A bird in the hand.

Last night while hanging out in El Portal my Delirium chica calls me, the only thing I understood was "amor ayudame", then I see all the text messages from her. She's with a group of guys that's with girls she don't trust, they are all about to go back to some big house to finish the night so she wants me to hold some money for her and she will pick it up in the morning, sure I don't mind. I tell her come over to Portal and give me the money because I'm with someone, she says she can't leave the club or the cops will steal from her. Apparently, some cops are walking around in by the clubs randomly searching girls and stealing money out of their purses.

I walk over, see cops walking around, go in the club and she comes down meets me by the bathroom, hands me some Euros and dollars and asks for 20 mil for taxi. I give her the 20, and head back to Portal to finish up with my chica, pay the bill, back to the apartment. Count it out, 400 Euros, 200 US, toss it in the safe and off to play in the jacuzzi with my chica.

She comes over over early morning, and we have a little chat.

I ask her why couldn't she just hold on to the money, she says the girls sometimes steal from each other when they are in large groups and she didn't know if any of them would steal from her.

I ask her what's up with the cops, she says they do that all the time, they will stop girls and steal from them. I tell her she's Colombian so she can report them, she says that will only make things bad for her and they do worse to the Venezuelans. So I tell her what happened to me that night next to Hotel Caribe and she says, the taxi drivers work with the cops late at night and when a gringo is in the car with multiple people, they will approach a check point and flash their lights to the cops to let them know there is a gringo in the car and they can make some money together.

Just part of the food chain I guess. Someone is always taking from someone.

Tonight's my last night, I fly out tomorrow so I'm just going to chill, nice dinner then rooftop bar in Getsemani.

Finally I decided to check out the famous Chica Linda Night Club. The cab driver loaded 30 mil right away; we agreed on 20. When we passed the Club, which I didn't recognize, he made a strange roundabout on the next block and came back on the opposite side of the road (Diagonal 21 is one way, so, he couldn't come back), pointing to the club. Obviously he knew the place because we were talking about it all the way there. I never understood his move.

I entered the venue at 8:30 pm. I was the first client there! Girls were already there, about 10 of them. I bought a beer (National 20 mil!) and sat at the counter. The girls were coming to me to say Hello, and represent themselves. Out of all 10 I could hardly consider 2 to be more or less bangable. I have remembered the name one of those 2, Sophia.

300 mil per half an hour, everything with condom, right there in the private room. I finished my drink and left this place. For half an hour no more clients came. I came back to the Clock tower for 15 mil.

Since the last 2 days I spent with the same girl, a tall Venezolana with body of a model and pretty face. One night we went to the restaurant at the 5th floor in the walled city. The place is called Townhouse. I just wanted to check the place; it looked interesting, although the meal wasn't that good. Below on the street it was very hot but there on the terraza the breeze was blowing and the site of the night city was spectacular. But for tonight I wanted a change. Although she called a few times but I didn't reply.

I was making circles in the walled city not seeing anything interesting. Where did all pretty girls go? I remember that before in my previous visits I could easily find a decent girl, now nothing. Soon I saw my model, she decided to come anyway. We chatted a bit. I said that I left a phone in house which was true, because I don't have service anyway.

I went to keep on looking and all of a sudden 3 French guys started talking to me in French. Why? Do I look like French? Actually French is my weakest out of 4 languages I speak. Being out of practice for a few months I could hardly explain them what's going on in town, where to pick up girls and what the prices are. I thought about my model. Since she came she might be interested in these French. But looks like she went some place and I didn't see her anymore. Language was coming back and I kept sharing knowledge of the city because for these guys that was their first night in town.

My model appeared, and I waved for her to approach. She came and obviously was interested in this company but guys didn't go for her. Looks like they came to just take a look and spend some time in a club not being ready for something more serious although they kept asking detail where to meet girls and what the prices were. Not getting any offers from the French company my Venezolana decided to get back home and we agreed to see each other in two days.

I decided to get down to business and started approaching girls for a chat. The first one was seemingly not interested in any deals. I saw her every day on the Clock tower plaza. She kept reading her phone not paying attention to prospective customers. Venezolana with quite pretty face, but rather heavy ass for my taste. I was pondering what's more important pretty face or slim look when she decided this problem for me. 450 mil! And that was her final and the only number. Where do they get these prices? Who told them that this was the price? But she is in town for a year and somebody must have paid that.

I went on and found another group of 3 Venezolanas. One wasn't bad at all. We started chatting and turned out that she does everything with a condom. That is not a good sign. Even if I don't need a blow job usually it means that in the bed she is not that hot and heavy. Actually she was ready for full service but for 450 mil? Why 450? I guess because this is about $100 and somebody told them that they were worth it. My Venezuelan model takes only 300 mil and for the whole night 600. And she's got everything and does everything!

I kept looking and encountered another group of Venezolanas. I chose one. She also started with 400 but I promptly lowered it to my usual 250 for full service. She showed me a hotel right there in the walled city. I checked price. 100 mil / hour! In my previous visit I stayed in a hotel in Boca Grande. I could invite "una acompañante" for 115 mil for entire day and night with breakfast and all facilities, which I did a few times.

So, we headed for my usual hotel "por horas" for 30 mil in Getsemani close to the park.

After we parted I spoke to a group of 3 young Colombianas being here on vacation from Barranquilla if you take their words for face value. One of them was quite good; I would have taken her if I hadn't been empty. But this is another puzzle. None of them want to go alone with me, only all 3 and the price for quadrosome (is this correct word?) was 800 mil. I explained that even one for me could be too much and I like just one of them, the tallest and the prettiest. She explained she wouldn't do blowjob alone only in the group. "Lo siento, chicas". She shouted "mariconita" in my back. Is this the right way to do business? I don't think so.

[QUOTE=Peter74;2795466]Since the last 2 days I spent with the same girl, a tall Venezolana with body of a model and pretty face. One night we went to the restaurant at the 5th floor in the walled city. The place is called Townhouse. I just wanted to check the place; it looked interesting, although the meal wasn't that good. Below on the street it was very hot but there on the terraza the breeze was blowing and the site of the night city was spectacular. But for tonight I wanted a change. Although she called a few times but I didn't reply.[/QUOTE]Town house is cool, I usually go there to get away from the crazies. I usually hang out over by the "***** where's my Champane" sign where the shallow pool is as its away from the edge that's too windy. Was there last week, super windy at night, my chica kept complaining how cold it was but she's the one who decided to dress like its 100 degrees outside. I always like the signs in the elevators but I never did inquire about the free drink. Sliders and fries are great, I can always recommend them. The funny thing is while we were up there we kept seeing these 4 search lights in the sky and tried to figure out where they were coming from only to go on a nice side adventure to find out it was VSOP and the club on top of Delirium that's always empty. SMH.

[QUOTE=Peter74;2795466]I was making circles in the walled city not seeing anything interesting. Where did all pretty girls go? I remember that before in my previous visits I could easily find a decent girl, now nothing. Soon I saw my model, she decided to come anyway. We chatted a bit. I said that I left a phone in house which was true, because I don't have service anyway.[/QUOTE]Allot of girls are being taken off the market for extended period of time and not being replaced fast enough by new ones. When I reported last year that some gringos were monopolizing chicas time by taking them weeks at a time, it was swept under the rug. But that's what I was seeing and still seeing now. They are flying them out to Cancun, Tulum, Mexico City, Ecuador, Punta Cana, Jamica, Italy, Paris, etc, its all over these chicas whatsapp status where they are. When these girls come back, they don't have to walk the street looking for a gringo because that gringo paid them well enough for them to be good for 6 months or that gringo is sending them money monthly.

[QUOTE=Peter74;2795466] I went on and found another group of 3 Venezolanas. One wasn't bad at all. We started chatting and turned out that she does everything with a condom. That is not a good sign. Even if I don't need a blow job usually it means that in the bed she is not that hot and heavy. Actually she was ready for full service but for 450 mil? Why 450? I guess because this is about $100 and somebody told them that they were worth it. My Venezuelan model takes only 300 mil and for the whole night 600. And she's got everything and does everything![/QUOTE]Yes, someone out there is actually paying that. I remember back in October I reported chicas that I knew for years who I always paid 200 mil per polvo now wanted 400 mil because people out there was paying them $100 an hour. And they now wanted condom everything when it was always no condom. I ended up telling most of them if they are going to charge me more and give me less ill find someone else, and I did with the help of a chica. These girls are getting good money in CTG, between my October and February visit, mostly all my chicas took off their braces and got veneers on top or both top and bottom, lipo on their stomachs so now its unrealistically hard and feels unnatural. One got a BBL and it looks good with clothes on but when clothes come off her ass looks like a plastic bag filled with rolled up socks. SMH.

[QUOTE=Peter74;2795466]After we parted I spoke to a group of 3 young Colombianas being here on vacation from Barranquilla if you take their words for face value. One of them was quite good; I would have taken her if I hadn't been empty. But this is another puzzle. None of them want to go alone with me, only all 3 and the price for quadrosome (is this correct word?) was 800 mil. I explained that even one for me could be too much and I like just one of them, the tallest and the prettiest. She explained she wouldn't do blowjob alone only in the group. "Lo siento, chicas". She shouted "mariconita" in my back. Is this the right way to do business? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]You were smart not to take on 3 by yourself.