Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

I visited some of the soapies last week. First time for me to visit these places. Unfortunately I had only 1 day to check them so it was a bit rushed scouting and does not give full justice to the places.

1. La Belle: I arrived around 18 which was too early since the lineup was thin. I did not book anyone. Seemed like a nice big place.

2. Nataree: I went first through the "wrong" doors, and inside was about 15 girls in the fishbowl. I left and found the other door and the place was full of girls. Lined up like in Thermae bar. This place is busy and the papasan kept pushing some girls to me. I took a young white skinned girl to the room who seemed to have nice big tits. Well they were not that big when she removed her clothes but nevertheless OK. Standard wash and fuck, quite mechanical pattern and fake moaning from the girl. The quality of girls was Ok at Nataree, many young ones there.

3. Lord: This place is posh and I liked the way girls are sitting in the middle and the lightning is good so you can see what you are renting. Quality wise girls were on a good level. I did not fuck anyone due to lack of time.

4. Emmanuelle: This place was also quite good, lineup below Lord but some looked like worth fucking.

5. Annies: Well this place is what it is, no need for further analyze.

I also briefly visited Addict massage which is an oily massage. Decent lineup not no one stood up from the crowd. Same with Mango and EZ massage, only a handful of plain girls.

Next time in Bangkok I will invest more time for visiting these soapies.

-FF.

[QUOTE=JamesDean2;1856570]Not even remotely close to the likes of Artemis FKK, there are a few local such saunas. One such is Silom Sauna. Its in the back roads of Rama 4 in Thung Maha Mek, Sathon.

It is frequented by Korean clientS mainly but has the closest version for what you may be looking for. English is not spoken here so come prepared accordingly![/QUOTE]Found out last Feb There is another branch on Soi 22, Sukhumvit Soi 22 (about midway between Sukhumvit and Rama 4) with similar layout. Entry 200, from 12-24. Entry is BHT200 with complimentary fruit, soft drink. You can also order other food and drink.

Girls on the ground floor to choose from to do the massage HBT300 and BHT1000 for FS with the right girl of your choice.

But the good thing about it, the mamasan will show you if you ask her a much better selection of younger nicer looking girls on her Phone to choose from where you can take out ST for about at HBT 3000.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1858624]I would say the average age of P4 P gals in BKK has skyrockted over the past 10 years. Yes, there are a very few venues where you find the early 20 somethings, but for the most part the age is up up up. Why? Because there is more opportunity these days. Now with the current regime will that hold? Your guess is as good as mine.[/QUOTE]I think sky rocketed is an exaggeration, however I am biased due to not frequenting places full of old fatties or simply ignoring them. I tend to focus on the top few girls, if can find them, and ignore the rest. One reason for average age going up is the 16 year olds have been cleared out. LOL Seems girls are supposed to be at least 20 now.

I only go with one bargirl that is well over 30, but she has body in superb shape. Better than many of the young ones. I don't really care how old the girl is if she has maintained a good body, and face has not become haggard. Unfortunately many Thai girls have let themselves go or allowed themselves to get pregnant and have a baby causing significant body degradation in many cases. I don't refer so much to minor stretch marks (if minor), but more to running to fat, saggy ass, and deflated saggy tit bags. Tight non saggy bodies with pretty natural faces work for turning me on best.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1857452]Well put. I meet newbies here almost every week. Guys on holiday who strike up a conversation in a restaurant or at a bar. We hang out together for much of the time they spend here. It's fun. Many of them are younger, better looking, more charming, smarter and in a dozen other ways the kind of guys you wouldn't think would hit too many glitches in a P4 P haven like Bangkok. But without exception, by their third night here they have a story to tell about getting ripped off by a bargirl, wasting a ton of money in a Massage Shop or Soapy for crap service or even no acceptable service at all. This is unsolicited on my part. I promise you I never "lead the witness" in this regard. I am all positive and optimism on their first visit to the LOS.
[/QUOTE]I am probably anti social but I don't see great need to hang out with newbies and wonder where is the fun seeing them make the same mistakes everyone else did. Makes me cringe when a pushy girl collars a newbie and he is too polite to get rid of her quickly or at least ignore her.

My number one rule, is I get to choose the girl very carefully (if she will have me as well). The girl acting very keen very quickly (not real of course) is not going to work or impress me, unless I preferred her anyway.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1858933]I am probably anti social but I don't see great need to hang out with newbies[/QUOTE]Me too, sorry to say. No entertainment value in watching new arrivals make the same old mistakes time after time. At least when I make a mistake these days I like to think that it's a brand new one.

Even worse are the guys who've been here six months and have got it All Figured Out. It's just when you think that you've really worked what Thailand and the Thais are all about that you're likely to do something really dumb.

For all the information that's available these days, even forums like these, people have to make their own mistakes. That's how you learn.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1858929]I think sky rocketed is an exaggeration[/QUOTE]Average age in the general population of Thailand went from 24 in 1990 to 30 in 2000 to 38 now. I'd call that skyrocketing. I wouldn't be surprised if the average age of hookers went up even faster than that.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1858802]HBT300 and BHT1000[/QUOTE]Sorry if I'm not familiar with the acronyms, what's HBT and BHT?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1859030]Average age in the general population of Thailand went from 24 in 1990 to 30 in 2000 to 38 now. I'd call that skyrocketing. I wouldn't be surprised if the average age of hookers went up even faster than that.[/QUOTE]Yep, the population pyramid inverted here in '94. And I stick by my statement. The average age of P4 P gals has skyrocketed.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1859034]Sorry if I'm not familiar with the acronyms, what's HBT and BHT?[/QUOTE]Same thing as (THB) [URL]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=thai[/URL]+baht&biw=1024&bih=665&tbm=isch&tbo=you&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0 ahUKEwjousvpo-3 LAhXKVRQKHS2 dDqAQsAQIPw.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1859034]Sorry if I'm not familiar with the acronyms, what's HBT and BHT?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1858802]Found out last Feb There is another branch on Soi 22, Sukhumvit Soi 22 (about midway between Sukhumvit and Rama 4) with similar layout. Entry 200, from 12-24. Entry is BHT200 with complimentary fruit, soft drink. You can also order other food and drink.

Girls on the ground floor to choose from to do the massage HBT300 and BHT1000 for FS with the right girl of your choice.

But the good thing about it, the mamasan will show you if you ask her a much better selection of younger nicer looking girls on her Phone to choose from where you can take out ST for about at HBT 3000.[/QUOTE]Looks like a typo from Jojosun (possibly).

Currency of thailand is the Thai Baht. Official money market abbreviation is THB but some people us BHT. So 300 Baht for a massage and 1000 Baht for full service.

[QUOTE=Mjen1970;1859318]Looks like a typo from Jojosun (possibly).

Currency of thailand is the Thai Baht. Official money market abbreviation is THB but some people us BHT. So 300 Baht for a massage and 1000 Baht for full service.[/QUOTE]Bank of Thailand uses Baht when translated to its currency so BHT would be the correct one?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1858933]I am probably anti social but I don't see great need to hang out with newbies and wonder where is the fun seeing them make the same mistakes everyone else did. Makes me cringe when a pushy girl collars a newbie and he is too polite to get rid of her quickly or at least ignore her.

My number one rule, is I get to choose the girl very carefully (if she will have me as well). The girl acting very keen very quickly (not real of course) is not going to work or impress me, unless I preferred her anyway.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say I have a "great need" to hang with newbies either. Just that it is commonplace to find yourself in a venue, have someone strike up a casual conversation and for some of them to be newbies while some of them are old hands who have been vacationing or living here for years. Along the way, the newbies might be more interested in asking basic questions and my general rule with regard to P4 P topics is to only give basic info; that is a BJ Bar, they are definitely feeelancers, those are probably Coyotes, that kind of thing.

The only time I might interject an opinion that is not a basic answer to a direct question, if any, is if I see them about to do something that would no doubt add harmful downsides to the scene overall, such as the time a guy looked at me when a manasan asked for all of a go-go girl's money to be paid upfront in the bar. He didn't ask exactly, just shot a look at me. So my interjection was something like, "Well, it's up to you, but it isn't something I would do because. " and gave him a few good reasons why that would be a bad idea.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1858802]Found out last Feb There is another branch on Soi 22, Sukhumvit Soi 22 (about midway between Sukhumvit and Rama 4) with similar layout. Entry 200, from 12-24. Entry is BHT200 with complimentary fruit, soft drink. You can also order other food and drink.

Girls on the ground floor to choose from to do the massage HBT300 and BHT1000 for FS with the right girl of your choice.

But the good thing about it, the mamasan will show you if you ask her a much better selection of younger nicer looking girls on her Phone to choose from where you can take out ST for about at HBT 3000.[/QUOTE]I just have a few questions about the sauna. Is there just a sauna, or is there a cold pool and hut tub also? I like to do the really hot to really cold cycle. Helps with injuries and joint pain. And do you just do your thing in the sauna first, and then ask about a massage when your ready to pick your girl? Is the price set at 1000 for favorite, or did you negotiate that? Do you pick the girl from a fishbowl kind of scenario? Also, how do the girls look?

There is a place that I go to in Ratchada, but I don't know the name. It's right across the parking lot from Taragon. They have a fishbowl on the right when you walk in, but to the left is the sauna side and locker rooms. Its 180 baht and they provide everything needed (shorts and towels) along with fresh fruit and tea. There is a little gym if you feel like getting your heart rate up. They have a sauna, steam, cold pool, and hot pool. They are extremely hot and cold, which I like. They also have a barbershop and legit massage. I have never partaken in the fishbowl girls there, so I don't know prices. The girls look a bit older, mostly 30 ies maybe. But they look good enough in my opinion. The only reason I don't partake there is because I always go to this place with friends that aren't really into the P4P scene (at least that I know of). So I keep my extracurricular activities to myself.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1859041]Yep, the population pyramid inverted here in '94. And I stick by my statement. The average age of P4 P gals has skyrocketed.[/QUOTE]One shouldn't confuse the median age of workers in a particular profession with the median age of the population. While there is undoubtedly a marginal contribution within a particular profession the number and age of new entrants set against the number and age of retirees and the relative weightings of each is what is statistically most important.

Additionally within the P4P demographic there are different segments. The median age within the go go and soapie segments from my own observations has not gone up. There has been some increase in the oilie scene but from a relatively low base and they are disproportionately concentrated in particular tourist orientated parts of the city such as Lower Sukhumvit. Free lancers were always older than the average and have probably become more so. Where the older ladies are most concentrated are at BJ bars and regular massage shops.

Most Thais now complete grade 6, this along with greater enforcement of the penalties in hiring [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls has probably meant the average age of new entrants is higher. Another contributing factor is that during the past decade a lot of the younger more accomplished practitioners have gone overseas to the Gulf, Korea Singapore Hong Kong etc.

So I would yes the average age has gone up but not by a lot and only in certain segments.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1859611]One shouldn't confuse the median age of workers in a particular profession with the median age of the population. While there is undoubtedly a marginal contribution within a particular profession the number and age of new entrants set against the number and age of retirees and the relative weightings of each is what is statistically most important.

Additionally within the P4P demographic there are different segments. The median age within the go go and soapie segments from my own observations has not gone up. There has been some increase in the oilie scene but from a relatively low base and they are disproportionately concentrated in particular tourist orientated parts of the city such as Lower Sukhumvit. Free lancers were always older than the average and have probably become more so. Where the older ladies are most concentrated are at BJ bars and regular massage shops.

Most Thais now complete grade 6, this along with greater enforcement of the penalties in hiring girls has probably meant the average age of new entrants is higher. Another contributing factor is that during the past decade a lot of the younger more accomplished practitioners have gone overseas to the Gulf, Korea Singapore Hong Kong etc.

So I would yes the average age has gone up but not by a lot and only in certain segments.[/QUOTE]I would say the GoGo and FL segments have seen quite an increase in age over the last 15 years. And age is not the only thing increasing, weight is as well.