Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2801704]Some guys are so fucking stupid. If you have $3500/$7000 to drop on a chica or two for a weekend, why even go to Colombia? Skip all the travel and hassle and just grab a gem off Seeking. I would much rather party with a girl that speaks english vs spanish and no all day travel to and from. And if I was going to travel, with that kind of cash I would probably pick a classier and safer destination. Spain comes to mind even though I have never been.[/QUOTE]No doubt. If you want a hot Colombian woman, there are plenty in Mexico on Twitter. And the best looking Venezuelans I have ever seen and some of the best looking Colombians have been in Mexico.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2802209]Please show me where it says Colombia is a third world country. Because it really isn't. 🤦127996;8205;9794;65039;129318;127996;8205;9794;65039;.[/QUOTE]So third world is a very outdated and irrelevant term for what it was intended to be. Third world was a term used by western governments for countries that did not form some type of alliance with a and. A. T. O. Or Warsaw Pact country prior to the fall of the Soviet Union. Most of those countries tended to not be industrialized and had a very low global trade value for reserve currencies like the dollar, ruble, yen, etc.

Based on per capita G. The. P. , education, housing, healthcare, and overall quality of living, Colombia is not on par with a western nation, there is a significant difference between the two. That does not mean Colombia is a savage land of poverty stricken barbarians, but with out a doubt the economic opportunities which are available are far behind the west. You can take your dollars and average American salary and it will go far in the country. The same cannot be said for the peso and a Colombian Salary.

So in short, If you wanted to still classify nations by modern measures of economic health, Colombia would be several tiers or "worlds" behind the USA.

[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2801890]The girls are lying to impress you. I want to remind you, the annual minimum wage in Colombia is 3000 USD. These girls lie. Usually for no reason at all. Just to talk. Do you speak Spanish? Because many girls struggle to even get 1 customer at night at 250 k COP, they simply do not charge as much.[/QUOTE]These girls don't have to lie to me, these specific chicas telling me and showing me another gringo who paid that much does nothing for me. It was just a quick conversation I had with them because I was talking about carnival and asked them to join me and they said they had a high paying gringo coming in those days so they couldn't. Everywhere have high paying gringos that don't care, I don't know the type of relationship they have or history they have. They could of have had a Seeking relationship, or met in the club or tinder. I don't know and I didn't ask.

All I did was ask them to join me and they said they couldn't and told me why, after carnival ended we had another conversation and I asked how much they made and they told me and sent a picture. I always call bullshit on these chicas and these three always back up what they say with either a video, photos, or even a video call.

These girls make big money when there are big events in Colombia or when places like America have 3 day weekends like Memorial Day, 4th of July, etc.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2802942]I agree that the girls are lying. First of all, what dude is flying into Colombia with $10,000 in cash? Secondly, there's no way you can get that much from ATMs and the pile in pesos would require a shopping back (comical). Are these girls on Venmo now? Perhaps. IDK. Last of all, 99% of the girls I know would take off a couple months if they made that much in a weekend. There is no mentality to save money and keep working.[/QUOTE]Who flew into Colombia with $10,000 in cash? That risk for confiscation.

I do not know about Venmo but I can confirm many of these girls have PayPal and they link it to their Nequi so they can pull out Pesos.

Some also have Zelle. How they do it is they get someone they trust in the US with a Zelle account and have the gringo send the money to the that gringo that they trust, then that gringo either sends the money to the chica via WU or Paypal.

I've reported prior on Zelle and Paypal in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2802667]Or if you don't mind rap music with the and-word you are all set at Hollywood Beach these days. It's pretty unbearable actually.[/QUOTE]Some of them just don't know how to leave the BS back at home and bring it with them like they cannot function without the drama. Travel is supposed to be relaxing. I don't know who gave these people passports LOL.

I went through hell to get my American Passport back in the 90's, and now they just giving it out like free candy letting all sorts of people out the country giving us travelers a bad view.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2803059]So third world is a very outdated and irrelevant term for what it was intended to be. Third world was a term used by western governments for countries that did not form some type of alliance with a and. A. T. O. Or Warsaw Pact country prior to the fall of the Soviet Union. Most of those countries tended to not be industrialized and had a very low global trade value for reserve currencies like the dollar, ruble, yen, etc.

Based on per capita G. The. P. , education, housing, healthcare, and overall quality of living, Colombia is not on par with a western nation, there is a significant difference between the two. That does not mean Colombia is a savage land of poverty stricken barbarians, but with out a doubt the economic opportunities which are available are far behind the west. You can take your dollars and average American salary and it will go far in the country. The same cannot be said for the peso and a Colombian Salary.

So in short, If you wanted to still classify nations by modern measures of economic health, Colombia would be several tiers or "worlds" behind the USA.[/QUOTE]I think the line of confusion is this.

Colombia is a massive sized country.

So when discussing certain parts like Cartagena Medellin and Bogota these areas in particular are not as poor as people deem it out to be.

Yes it's ages behind western societies as far as wealth.

But these cities are very modernized. Many locals make good $$.

But those are only 3 cities in a big ass country.

So when expecting to pay bottom barrel prices for a girl in one of these cities and using the logic of min salary it is absolutely moot. Why? Because I'm sure they have been exposed to the finer things in life at some point.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2803113]These girls don't have to lie to me, these specific chicas telling me and showing me another gringo who paid that much does nothing for me. It was just a quick conversation I had with them because I was talking about carnival and asked them to join me and they said they had a high paying gringo coming in those days so they couldn't. Everywhere have high paying gringos that don't care, I don't know the type of relationship they have or history they have. They could of have had a Seeking relationship, or met in the club or tinder. I don't know and I didn't ask.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, if you do not know Colombian pricing and only know hotties in the USA making 500+ an hour and up, it is very possible a guy would spend $3000 on a Colombian woman and think he is getting a bargain.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2803117]Some of them just don't know how to leave the BS back at home and bring it with them like they cannot function without the drama. Travel is supposed to be relaxing. I don't know who gave these people passports LOL.

I went through hell to get my American Passport back in the 90's, and now they just giving it out like free candy letting all sorts of people out the country giving us travelers a bad view.[/QUOTE]With you 100% I.

T's a deah spiral as the girls get hardened by them.

Ruins the vibe in the city and especially the beach.

I ad use folks to start looking elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2803264]So when expecting to pay bottom barrel prices for a girl in one of these cities and using the logic of min salary it is absolutely moot. Why? Because I'm sure they have been exposed to the finer things in life at some point.[/QUOTE]Sure they have been exposed to the finer things, but they also realize they turn back into pumpkins at midnight. It is the foreign "millionaire" that is responsible for convincing them they are worth more. You see that by merely reading the various threads on this website.

It happens in every country. Guys coming through willing to pay less than it would be at home regardless that it is much more than the local norm. Do you really think the chicks in Gusto's are getting the $300 in the barrios that they ask of the foreigners in the club? If they were then they would not be living in those barrios, but the finer things would be their lifestyle.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2753882#post2753882[/URL]

Remember my report from October how they scammed us at this same Agua Azul with the bill that came up to about $900 because they added extra shit on there and my chica was arguing with them? Well, looks like they are at it again and this time they throwing chairs at the JAJAJA.

Remember, always ask how much up front, keep track of the order and don't let them take no pictures of you. Also remember the boat crew is not your friends they are there to make money on thop of what they were already paid for the day.

Its in Spanish but if you scroll down on the page theres a 1 minute video of the inicident.

[URL]https://www.infobae.com/colombia/2023/03/26/vuelve-y-juega-nueva-rina-entre-turistas-y-locales-en-cartagena-esta-vez-por-perdida-de-dinero/[/URL]

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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2803369]Then I'm calling you a liar. These girls are not earning that much.[/QUOTE]This girl is a $1000 an hour. [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/secretvixen[/URL].

Guys that pay those rates would think $3000 for a few days is nothing.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2802942]I agree that the girls are lying. First of all, what dude is flying into Colombia with $10,000 in cash? Secondly, there's no way you can get that much from ATMs and the pile in pesos would require a shopping back (comical). Are these girls on Venmo now? Perhaps. IDK. Last of all, 99% of the girls I know would take off a couple months if they made that much in a weekend. There is no mentality to save money and keep working.[/QUOTE]These are the agencies I have used.

For customers who send to Colombia from the United States, as of writing, the initial sending limits with Remitly are:

$2,999 in 24 hours.

Western Union: You can send up to USD $7500 to bank accounts in Colombia using our online services or at our agent locations. You can also send up to USD $5000 for cash pickup at a Colombian agent location.

Pangea: You can send up to $6,000 using a debit card. This limit also applies to any receiver. Note: The $6,000 limit is refreshed every 30 days.

I needed to send $5000 to my gal for a deposit on our apartment. I tried high amounts and got hassled and money was frozen ETC. So I then used all three services and transferred $1000 using a combination of all three services, and it was done in 2 days.

You do not need to use cash or use ATM there. I use Remitly and money instantly goes into her checking account.

Giving women this much money is doable. It is probably dumb but it is doable.

And Nypher has given really good info for month / years on Cartagena. I am not sure why you guys are trashing him. He is just repeating what he was told.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2803288]Sure they have been exposed to the finer things, but they also realize they turn back into pumpkins at midnight. It is the foreign "millionaire" that is responsible for convincing them they are worth more. You see that by merely reading the various threads on this website.

It happens in every country. Guys coming through willing to pay less than it would be at home regardless that it is much more than the local norm. Do you really think the chicks in Gusto's are getting the $300 in the barrios that they ask of the foreigners in the club? If they were then they would not be living in those barrios, but the finer things would be their lifestyle.[/QUOTE]All the girls in these clubs whether Gustos or Dolce Vita etc they make their $$ The problem is they got bfs family members etc waiting on them. It's like the millionaire and his crew. One person pays. Same with these girls.

But the gringos only know the girl and to her 200 mil is not big $$ anymore.

Every girl starts out and 150-200 mil is big $$ when they're 18.

Then they go out make a 2-300 $ usd score with a gringo let's say in lleras or cartagena.

They do it a couple more times. Now they're expecting that kind of money all the time. So they go and treat their families and friends to vacations. Use on plastic surgery. Expensive make up, hair, clothes etc.

She has now put herself in a position where she went from a 6-8 or a 7-9 for some guys.

So now she's not taking 200 mil anymore.

If you generalize this into anything it's a common theme of life in any country.

The paying customer dictates what they're worth.

The higher the demand she'll get a bigger head and charge more. Weed out the lower paying guys.

The reason they stay in their barrios is because of their poor money management.

The 1% that are smart and I know a couple have bought property invested in their own businesses and their own education.

But they use the same logic as well.

There's simply nothing that can be done.

So prices are all over the place. But guys just be smart and don't over pay!

Haven't heard any crazy stories past 2-3 weeks out of ctg. Seems things are being quieted down a bit.

Can't wait to go. Walk around in the morning. Find a empanada and beer. Start texting my girls to see who's awake for a morning workout.

Cartagena is quickly becoming the most economically important city in that country. They won't let it go downhill.

[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2803369]Then I'm calling you a liar. These girls are not earning that much.[/QUOTE]I have nothing to gain from this forum by lying about 3 chicas making $3000 - $3500 in a few days during Carnival. The chicas have nothing to gain from me by lying to me saying they made that much from 1 gringo during carnival. I just don't see the motive why they or I would make up something like that.

All I do is pass on the information as I get it, or as I experience it. If you're experiencing something different, pass it on as well to help the next person that comes along. The whole start of this was me trying to inform others that if they have a favourite girl they want to be with during Carnival that they might want to reach out to her early to make sure she is available as I reached out to my top 3 and all 3 of them were already taken by high paying gringos way before they arrived and one of them even made an advance deposit.

I don't know how we got to this point.

(Duplicate post but I had to fix an important typo).