[QUOTE=Pistons;2292729]Monger? Doesn't that imply sex? Whatever you like to call what you do. But mongering is a bit of a stretch don't you think?[/QUOTE]Disingenuous at best but to be expected regarding defense mechanisms.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2292729]Monger? Doesn't that imply sex? Whatever you like to call what you do. But mongering is a bit of a stretch don't you think?[/QUOTE]Disingenuous at best but to be expected regarding defense mechanisms.
Adding to my former post:
There is a problem when 70% of all the content on the internet is related to porn. I would call that an indicator of what the society as a whole is suppressing the most. Due to the idea that most topics that are being brough up onto the public sphere is suppressed topics of interest that needs to be highlighted. Or has some sort of market dynamical need related to it.
So by that very same idea, societal suppression of sex, is equivalent to 70% or all societal suppression in all the worlds societies as a whole. Making this quite the substantial topic nobody can really underestimate.
To put that into context, gaming relates to parhaps only 10%. And that is a pretty hefty timesink for many young adults too without money to splurge. Both are escapist in their form. But as opposed to gaming, sex also has a health benefit, and can be considerred a human essential need. So framing a human essential need as something negative in its shape and form, seems to me to be a psychotic result of institutional brainwashing. Much like BDSM fetishers.
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I suppose I would have taken Osho with me to an FKK if I were to pick one guy. Osho and maybe Jesus.
[/QUOTE]Interesting that Pistons also picked an Indian guru. In many ways Osho was the opposite of Gandhi though. Whereas Gandhi wanted you to make mountains out of your inhibitions, Osho preached immediate satisfaction of every desire to achieve a clear flat plain of superconsciousness. Osho's communes in the US were famous for polyamory and were ahead of FKKs in some respects like orgies and mandatory STD testing.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2293501]
I do wonder what Osho would have done. I suppose he is quite rich now considering I have seen some products marketed with his face on them.
[/QUOTE]Well. He literally owned 93 Rolls-Royces. He did quite well out of the Age of Permissiveness. But then when the curtain came down in the seventies and eighties (the start of the Sex Prohibition era), his ashrams struggled more and more and eventually fell into chaos. By 1990 Osho himself was on the run -- in the skies. He was practically confined to his private jet, circling the planet and looking for sanctuary. After a year he landed back in India and died.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2293501]
Osho regarding sex:
[URL]https://youtu.be/KmThdVnWNi8[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice video, especially when he talks about the Life Force. "It is from this energy that you cum. " And what source of energy is more renewable than human sperm? It should replace fossil fuels:
[URL]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0YWt6GWsAAwFYH.jpg[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pistons;2294246]Not a bad post at all Takedown! These things, and the ones McA points to are things to keep in mind.
But what is life without escapist practises? Eat chicken for every meal, and chicken gets boring.
The same thing can be said regarding everything in life. Work, food, locations, climate, weather, sports, music etc etc.
Now the argument that using a theory, or science even to defend ones ideas is a bit ficticious though, as that argument itself is the same thing. A theory. Much like Erasmus Montanus:
[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus_Montanus[/URL][/QUOTE]Whether on purpose or through subconscious habit, you missed the point of of the post, intellectualization as a mechanism to justify denial. And no, don't get too excited about the term intellectualizing, it does not mean one is intelligent. What you do is not escapism, at least not one that leads to betterment of self. Generating false scenarios and bastardizing facts are more congruent with the early mechanisms of coping with psychological trauma, denial.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2294262]So framing a human essential need as something negative in its shape and form, seems to me to be a psychotic result of institutional brainwashing. Much like BDSM fetishers.[/QUOTE]One can try to deny this suppression of sex in the world. Gandhi tried to do this in Poly's example. Through societal forms and ideas, our subconscious mind would then start obtaining fetishes such as chastity belts among the narrow minded sjw's, monogamy defenders and quasi intellectual trolls. Such as going to a room with the intention of having sex, but then figuring out his subconscious had a fetish on not having sex at all. Or starting, but not being able to finnish. Pretty much like chastity porn. Cockblocked and denied.
Personally I find the very idea that chastity fetishes are a thing, to be quite sad. Very sad.
Been a member for more than 15 years (other handle) and used to love Oase. Now more towards Sharks. Last trip in 2017 Trip Summary here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1990203[/URL]#post1990203.
Thinking of a short trip over to Germany (or anywhere in Europe) for a bit of a brothel / FKK escape next week or so.
Interested in any current opinions on where the most attractive / hottest girls might be found, generally speaking. I know the line-up changes from day to day and everyone has different tastes etc. But I'm asking the question nonetheless!
Have never been to the NRW area, only the Big 5 in Frankfurt. Do they have a better lineup generally? I hear the service is a bit better and more consistent there.
Thanks in advance.
It is a matter of taste. Sometimes related to the lingerie the girls are using, their hairstyle etc etc too. One persons ideas of who is pretty, is not the same as the next ones ideas of the same. For example, I clash hard with Sirioja's preferences. Only with 3 exceptions that I remember. So we kinda disagree on 90% or so. But with other posters, my preferences can overlap on 70-80% or more of the girls. Such as with one forum poster on Youppie.
But in general, you stand a higher chance of finding the prettiest girls in the clubs with the most girls. But some of these biggest clubs are also light mode tourist traps due to their fame. Meaning, girls will start asking for more and more money for what you assumed was included.
When that is said, Sharks and Oase holda their ground strong in regards to the prettiest girls. In nrw I would say Oceans has the prettiest girls. Others might disagree since it is a cool thing to dislike Oceans due to their entrance policy. But that doesn't change the beauty of their girls. YinYang too was good, but now closed for a year. But you can find one or two gems at pretty much every club. No clubs have died and has zero hot girls.
Hello gents,
I've only visited one FKK club (Sharks) before and had a good time but now that I've looked back at it I feel like I don't understand the rules a bit. When the girls and I were negotiating before going into a room, we talked about 30 min /50 E and 60 min /100 E. I've tried both but in either situations as soon as I finished, they told me that it's done and I owe them the whole charge that we agreed on. Especially for the hour sessions, we would leave with half the time behind (even though I wasn't counting, there was no way that I can last a full hour for one session with these girls). Was I being scammed? One of my first girl, I went in the room, she covered me with rubber and I finished not that far in since I was holding the urges. She told me that we should pack up and vacate the room for others as we are done. Should I have asked if the time was up and double check with the girls?
TL; DR:
When you decide for either 30 min or 60 min. Do you stay the entire time with her for that amount of time even after finishing. Also, can you ask for multiple sessions / finishes (in both 30 min or 60 min) during that time?
Thank you for helping out this newbie.
Hi gents,
Newbie thinking about exploring outside the normal sex life.
When it is indicated that 30 min /50 E and 60 min /100 E, does this mean that you will be in the room for the whole duration of that time or until you (male) finishes. Should you bring a watch with you or do the girls keep the time for you?
In fact, can you go for multiple shots?
Reading your post on the Oase thread, it seems like you still have a pretty good pulse on things. Oase and Sharks are still number one and two in Germany with the hottest girls at the top end. I admit that I have never seen a Hamburg club. Oase is still just as bad as ever if not worse regarding sharky girls. There are not as many sharks at Sharks, irony, but if only spending 50 euros, you will have a hard time getting good service from many top girls. You'll find a few hot girls at the NRW clubs, just not nearly as many as at the Frankfurt clubs. If you only need 2 or 3, you'll find that at most of the more popular NRW clubs.
As for the rest of Europe, I think many people will direct you to Zurich clubs. I personally find them to be overrated and definitely not worth the price point. A better option is Wellcum in Austria, 2 hours from Venice. On a Friday or Saturday night, the line up is better than Globe in Zurich in my opinion. The downside is that the Sunday and I assume weekday line up there drops back down to Sharks and Oase level.
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2294389]Been a member for more than 15 years (other handle) and used to love Oase. Now more towards Sharks. Last trip in 2017 Trip Summary here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1990203[/URL]#post1990203.
Thinking of a short trip over to Germany (or anywhere in Europe) for a bit of a brothel / FKK escape next week or so.
Interested in any current opinions on where the most attractive / hottest girls might be found, generally speaking. I know the line-up changes from day to day and everyone has different tastes etc. But I'm asking the question nonetheless!.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you. Sex is a basic impulse and need, a very basic one, but not the only one. And while some of us inveterate mongers need sex with many girls, probably many pretty and young ladies, it is a mistake to assume that this is the only need or main need of all men. It is an even bigger mistake to think that men who are not pursuing sex with multiple young men all the time are either brainwashed, don't have the means, or both.
Your examples of Bieber and Kraft are appropriate. I will go one step further. You cited their prior known use of prostitutes to exemplify that they are not brainwashed. In fact, many many other famous powerful and rich men may have visited with prostitutes in the past but we simply may not know about them. Further, even if they did not use a prostitute does not mean they are unaware. They simply may have chosen not to use prostitutes intentionally and deliberately.
Pursuit of money, power, peer recognition, fame and name recognition, domination over fellow human beings, awards and trophies, notoriety, and many other things are all vigorously pursued by many many men (and women). Achieving high levels of success on many of those metrics leads to self satisfaction, as much (if not greater) as any sex act. I have mongered for a long time in many countries and sex is indeed highly satisfying. But for me, making money is even more rewarding even if I will never ever spend most of what I make. I could hang up my boots today permanently and just focus on fucking girls all over the world but I know for sure that I will be bored in a short amount of time. In that sense, I already have an activity, I. E making money, which I find intrinsically far more rewarding than sex, and it is not because I am brainwashed.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2293464]You seem to think that every man wants to spend all their free time fucking beautiful WGs. That fucking beautiful, young WGs is their deep down desire and life aspiration, but they ignore this desire because society has brainwashed them into marrying women. But I don't think this is true.
Bob Kraft. Justin Bieber. Both men are known to have used the services of WGs, so we can conclude that neither is "brainwashed". Also both men are wealthy enough to walk away from their careers and move to a monger friendly country and have orgies every day for the rest of their life..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Takedown;2294428] A better option is Wellcum in Austria, 2 hours from Venice. On a Friday or Saturday night, the line up is better than Globe in Zurich in my opinion. The downside is that the Sunday and I assume weekday line up there drops back down to Sharks and Oase level.[/QUOTE]Personal Sunday experience from Wellcum has been quite good. And optically better than sharks. But I suppose maybe not optically like that last Saturday at Oase when everyone was there.
Monday however has used to be quite grim at Wellcum. And maybe just at NRW weekend level (2-3) hot girls. Then after that lineup increases progressively upwards towards the peak on Friday and Saturday again.
[QUOTE=CaneUppHosAss;2294469]In that sense, I already have an activity, I. E making money, which I find intrinsically far more rewarding than sex, and it is not because I am brainwashed.[/QUOTE]"If women didn't exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning. " -- Aristotle Onassis.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2293482]
I do dream about going back sometimes like I do dream about going to nice white sand beach, every one got something look forward to in life and for me going on German FKK trip is like going to white sand beach, I do look forward to it and each time I land in Germany, I still do get this excitement like a little kid running to toy store with money, but it is just for sex and memories and what happen in FKK stay in FKK.[/QUOTE]"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. " -- Mahatma Gandhi.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2294753]"If women didn't exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning. " -- Aristotle Onassis..[/QUOTE]Onassis said that because he had money, he wouldn't say the same if he was poor.