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[QUOTE=Long91;1486299]I have tried to book a flight several times for Nov. On Tiger Air from BKK to clark without success. My credit card company s (2 from US) stated its a problem with Tiger Air's website. What gives? Any one experience this?[/QUOTE]If you 'google' for "tiger air fraud", you will find answers with reference to "Fraud and the fear of fraud erodes trust in payment systems".
[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1486291]Cherry girls frequently have a "cherry" on their I'd's and it's up to you to look for it or ask. The primary way they make their money is via lady drinks, but some will also do oral (receive and give). And don't blame the mamasan; she's there for there for her girls; next time ask.
She was well trained, if she took the money if could have been perceived as stealing. Always best to give it to the girl to avoid any misunderstandings.
Many bar girls are there for that reason, not just to support their families via the bar, but to find sponsors and / or husbands. And many will make good wives, but I agree; for many guys the fact of marrying a bar girl is a huge stumbling block. Also, if she is registered as GRO it could present some difficulties in getting a visa / green card down the line.[/QUOTE]Maybe I thought that the bar girls choose to be there because it was a way to support a baby at home, which a real cherry girl would not have. So I don't really understand why a girl who is a cherry would work in a bar. The highly specialized dancers say at Atlantis I would understand too if all they do is dance since they performances are so specialized and I assume they make enough just with dancing.
As for the money. I left it purposely on her clothes which were folded on the table. I don't see why else she would think I was oging to put the money on her folded clothes besides giving it to her.
What is a GRO? And yes, I do see that some bar girls including this one, would make a decent wive. It's that block on my side I guess.
[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1486291]Cherry girls frequently have a "cherry" on their I'd's and it's up to you to look for it or ask. The primary way they make their money is via lady drinks, but some will also do oral (receive and give). And don't blame the mamasan; she's there for there for her girls; next time ask.[/QUOTE]It remind me talk with one girl in AC (don't remember which bar) :
"I was a cherry girl, good, I'm not cherry anymore. All the time BJ, BJ, BJ. My head was so tired"
[QUOTE=Ej2208;1486307]I had the same problem is when I purchase my tiger airway ticket. I tired with 3 cards and none of them worked. I had to call my credit card companies. They said the system flagged the transaction as possible fraud. I had to verify some information about my account and then I was good to make the transaction. Also, on the tiger airways site there is an pop up that comes up after you click on complete purchase click yes for this pop up if not the transaction will decline.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will try again. That shit was a pain in the ass.
[QUOTE=Long91;1486299]I have tried to book a flight several times for Nov. On Tiger Air from BKK to clark without success. My credit card company s (2 from US) stated its a problem with Tiger Air's website. What gives? Any one experience this?[/QUOTE]This is just a guess. Some credit card companies routinely block transactions from countries with track records for fraudulent transactions. For example, I have gotten shut down for credit card and debit card transactions in Korea, but not for the Philippines. Now I always give them a headsup whenever I travel out of the states. I tell them what countries I will be in and the dates of travel, and they program something into the account. When I take that precaution I do not experience getting my cards blocked. I think Tiger headquarters is in Singapore, so perhaps some credit card companies regard Singapore as a haven for fraudulent card purchases.
I thought I would never ever set foot in Angles city but these guys working with me on a project here in japan asked me to go with them to Angles city. So this Friday we go and I may add they paid for my flight ticket. I will help them navigate with my eperience in the Phils. I have been advising them on some things but I just do not know Angeles that well.
As this is my first trip I read that the barfines are anywhere from 1500P to 3000P and not to tip anymore than 200P due to price increases there.
I would like to know what bars I should advise to stay out of:
What bars are definately worth a look:
Is there any place in Angles to find a safe FL? Say disco or something. I read street ladies can be a no no.
Sincere thanks for advise in advance
Bareback seems to be very common in Philippines. Based on pics. I know from an STD perspective this is a death-wish but is this safer here than in other countries? What % of guys use condoms here with working girls?
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit; 1486330]Maybe I thought that the bar girls choose to be there because it was a way to support a baby at home, which a real cherry girl would not have. So I don't really understand why a girl who is a cherry would work in a bar. SNIP.
As for the money. I left it purposely on her clothes which were folded on the table. I don't see why else she would think I was oging to put the money on her folded clothes besides giving it to her.[/QUOTE]Too much thinking, not enough culture. Pinoy culture is somewhat different possibly than yours. A girl works in a bar to make money, even if she doesn't barfine often. Many cherry girls are cute and often appear young, and many gents are dumb enough to sit and drink with her. A girl who gets two drinks in one night can double her salary.
Regarding the money you left on her clothes: most bargirls wouldn't touch money that you left in the open (she could get fired). If she was unsure (vague) on why you left it there, she'd leave it alone. The result of customer accusation of theft for a bargirl is pretty much the same as theft (even if it didn't occur).
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1486377]This is just a guess. Some credit card companies routinely block transactions from countries with track records for fraudulent transactions. For example, I have gotten shut down for credit card and debit card transactions in Korea, but not for the Philippines. Now I always give them a headsup whenever I travel out of the states. I tell them what countries I will be in and the dates of travel, and they program something into the account. When I take that precaution I do not experience getting my cards blocked. I think Tiger headquarters is in Singapore, so perhaps some credit card companies regard Singapore as a haven for fraudulent card purchases.[/QUOTE]I did face this issue, but I tried to book BKK to Singapore from BKK airport. I tried 4 Banks and only UOB Card worked successful. My Cards are Issued in Singapore.
Last time I was there I had a sweet young thing "Going to school" wanted me to bareback her. I saw the writting on the wall. 3 months later I would get a message stating that she is now pregnant and need support. It's a common scam and most of the time it's not your kid.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1486512]Too much thinking, not enough culture. Pinoy culture is somewhat different possibly than yours. A girl works in a bar to make money, even if she doesn't barfine often. Many cherry girls are cute and often appear young, and many gents are dumb enough to sit and drink with her. A girl who gets two drinks in one night can double her salary.[/QUOTE]I suppose this would suggest that not all bar girls are single mothers (although I suspect that the vast majority of them are).
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1486641]I suppose this would suggest that not all bar girls are single mothers (although I suspect that the vast majority of them are).[/QUOTE]It used to be single mothers were forced to go find a job by their family and only job they could get was in a bar in AC or anywhere. Nowadays majority of the young girls in AC say they do not have children.
Whether it is a lie or not I do not know. This is the reason for many girls refusing barfine altogether unless they like the guy or offered good money. This is also the reason for runners not worried about good tip.
[QUOTE=Long91;1486299]I have tried to book a flight several times for Nov. On Tiger Air from BKK to clark without success. My credit card company s (2 from US) stated its a problem with Tiger Air's website. What gives? Any one experience this?[/QUOTE]To long 91.
I use my Citi bank us card it work just fine no problem Cebu pacific air is the airline I have problem with many time before just contact the credit card company and rebook and it they take the card.
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[QUOTE=Sammon; 1486647]It used to be single mothers were forced to go find a job by their family and only job they could get was in a bar in AC or anywhere. Nowadays majority of the young girls in AC say they do not have children.
Whether it is a lie or not I do not know. This is the reason for many girls refusing barfine altogether unless they like the guy or offered good money. This is also the reason for runners not worried about good tip.[/QUOTE]Really? I only had four but they were all single moms. I had the impression that those with kids would be the norm.
I was checking out of Pacific Breeze last week and while waiting for a taxi, I nosily started reading the security log. Sad story of a guy who picked up two FL from a disco and brought them back to the hotel. He left his Galaxy phone on charge and the girls took it and left after sex. This in spite of the security guys calling for confirmation that everything was Ok before letting the girls go.
Hard to know what to make of this but I would have thought that it was fairly high risk for the girls unless they managed to dump it on the street (possible in several ways at PBH) before departing the hotel and I guess there are other lessons there as well. Securing your things and being more alert when there are two girls you don't know might be one of them. The security guy told me that most of their problems run along these lines with FL. The guy was offering 10, 000 pesos to get his phone back. Unlikely I guess.
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