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Here's a link to a article in Nature journal.
[url]http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/readings/homofinger/homo_finger.html[/url]
And you will see that almost all men have shorter index fingers in their sampling. And it looks like lesbians also have slightly shorter index fingers than heterosexual females so it's looks like to me a good test, because the chances are that you won't get a good session with a lesbian(as a male).
But as with all biological systems it's a distribution and I guess you're an outlier.
BTW, The Crocodile Dundee test only works on transvestites not transsexuals.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Are you sure about that? I'm sitting here looking at my hands and my index finger on both hands is clearly longer than my ring finger. If that means I didn't get enough testosterone while in the womb then why the hell am I so horny all the time?
Actually, I think one of the best ways to make sure, short of a genetic test, is to look at the overally size of the hands and feet. Guys very clearly have larger hands and feet, even compared to women of the same height. Some trannies try to disguise their man-hands by ordering and holding larger drinks, but if there's any doubt put her hand in yours and compare sizes. You'll know pretty quickly based on overall size / finger thickness etc.
Can't imagine that HK would knowingly let a TS work there, although other bars in TJ certainly would. If a Mexican guy were tricked into going upstairs with a TS, he wouldn't just ask for his money back - he would likely beat the hell out of the TS, so it's best for everyone if they just stay out of the main bars in la zona.[/QUOTE]
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Looks like HK are hiring! Call your ex wives....:)
hola soy representante del hong kong pago d sueldo 500x ocho horas a escort bailarinas damitas d piso todo lo q ganes es para ti no pagas nada ay bastante trabajo las chicas cobran d 70 para arriba hasta 150 x media hora ingresos comproblabes unete al gran equipo d edecanes si mides 1.70 talla del 0 a 5 y estas guapisima pagamos 600x seis horas si vas al hong kong pregunta en la puerta x dano el q contrata alas chicas solo preguntando x el resibiras el sueldo prometido trabajo 7 dias a la semana tenemos hospedaje y comidad gratis para las chicas nuevas
[url]http://www.sexytijuana.com/posts/viewItem.php?id=30171[/url]
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[QUOTE=Dornyone]Looks like HK are hiring! Call your ex wives....:)
hola soy representante del hong kong pago d sueldo 500x ocho horas a escort bailarinas damitas d piso todo lo q ganes es para ti no pagas nada ay bastante trabajo las chicas cobran d 70 para arriba hasta 150 x media hora ingresos comproblabes unete al gran equipo d edecanes si mides 1.70 talla del 0 a 5 y estas guapisima pagamos 600x seis horas si vas al hong kong pregunta en la puerta x dano el q contrata alas chicas solo preguntando x el resibiras el sueldo prometido trabajo 7 dias a la semana tenemos hospedaje y comidad gratis para las chicas nuevas
[url]http://www.sexytijuana.com/posts/viewItem.php?id=30171[/url][/QUOTE]
$45 USD for 8 hour shift?? Man we are getting rip off @ $80 USD 30min LOL
I wish I can do the job interview. Please remove all your clothes and tell me a little about yourself!
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[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]$45 USD for 8 hour shift?? Man we are getting rip off @ $80 USD 30min LOL
I wish I can do the job interview. Please remove all your clothes and tell me a little about yourself![/QUOTE]
The ads say they can make more if they go arriba. That's just to dance around and get ficha (not sure if they have a quota right away or how that works). There's lots of ads in newspapers all over Mexico for jobs like this. A friend said he met a girl from Monterrey at HK last weekend and she said she worked in an office and responded to an ad in the local paper. But she got 1000 and whatever she made upstairs, but she didn't go upstairs. She planned on staying there only 10 days. I met a girl from Saltillo there yesterday or Wednesday that had heard about it from her friend at a club in Monterrey. She told me in no uncertain terms she's there until the end of the month and then she's back to Monterrey. Over the years mongering in MTY and Nuevo Laredo I've run into a few girls that would come to TJ to for a few weeks to make some quick money and the go away.
A lot of these new girls won't go arriba. Especially the ones that are new to the scene. The spectacle of HK must be overwhelming for many. Some don't even last a day.
I appreciate Hong Kong's advertising for work. I always like new talent.
But I must say there are some really gross ugly women working there right now. I saw this woman with big loose gut and ugly face and f'ed up teeth there yesterday where I physically gagged when I saw her. A taut belly is mandatory for me and I will not go upstairs unless I see her belly. The woman's disgusting belly needed to be covered. It seemed that she and her not quite as hideous amiga made their money by begging men for a dollar. But in their case it was money you had to pay to get them to go away.
[b]Not that is all bad news. [/b] But I did see a chick that was just my type named Julia. She wears pinkish boyshorts and a little top. Chaparrita. Barely legal looking. Was making about $10 a song in tips without letting guys grab her coño or tetas. Dances with a lot of energy and would flit from pole to pole and from bar to bar and then would go up on the catwalk. She has pinkish-red short hair with pigtails. She seemed to be new and it seemed that she wasn't down with the pawing of customers while she danced on the bar so I didn't waste time getting drinking with her. But I am going back soon for her.
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HK Sausagefest
I second the opinion re: the preponderance of hags, gordas and other types who shouldn't pass "face test" in a place where P4P is the fare. Only the educanes were worth looking at last night. The place was 3/4 full, 65% guys at least, hot, smoky and just unpleasant to hang out in. Adelitas was a better mix.
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[QUOTE=Dornyone]I second the opinion re: the preponderance of hags, gordas and other types who shouldn't pass "face test" in a place where P4P is the fare. Only the educanes were worth looking at last night. The place was 3/4 full, 65% guys at least, hot, smoky and just unpleasant to hang out in. Adelitas was a better mix.[/QUOTE]
HK is still the busiest place and they prob have the most chicas in the zona. With so many chicas the chances are even if you are picky you'll prob find a few that do interest you. Its a good place for low cost entertainment other then fucking. (and thats available too with alot of the chicas there)
The styles of the clubs in the zona vary so its like argueing about apples and oranges. AB chicas are there for fucking, HK chicas make their money with a mixture of fucking and ficha drinks and tips for personal services other then fucking.
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Again, I hadn't seen this because PP is on ignore but......
"Whatever you do, dont fabricate facts. You dont look good to the bro."
Like I care. HK appeals to me when there are less guys there and the ratio of decent chicas is higher (like I said, I guess I'm a day monger in future). I go to TJ to get laid and have fun, in that order. Hanging in a hot, loud bar with 300 other guys is low on my list no matter what the few decent chicas are doing in the tub or on the stage.
As far as educanes, I assumed the chicas in uniform were educanes, not to split hairs but they were about all that was worth looking at.
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When I was there last week the "edecanes" were still there. As Super Gato said, not as many, but they were there. It seems that they were dancing on the stages more, and less lined up on the second floor.
As for the Adelitas/HK, which lady is better, IMHO it really depends upon my interviewing. I have good sessions at both places, and I have bad sessions at both places. For me, I think the determining factor is which head I was thinking with at the time. I would say that in HK, if you are buying drinks, to check and make sure that the lady will go upstairs first. Not all do, some only dance.
My wingman pulled a hottie out of Las Chevlas, and she was off the charts according to him. He broke her Gringo cherry, and she wanted to make sure he remembered it. LOL
The good news for me is that there are plenty of very hot Latina's in the Zona at any of the big 5 (less at Tropical). IMO, even at Chicago, after about ten, I can always find three or four who are very doable.
That being said, I do think that the number of hotties is down somewhat everywhere from the clubs to the streets, starting about a year ago.
Health & happiness to all..............
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So finally I made it down to Tijuana after much anticipation. Arrived Thursday afternoon around 2 pm may 6th. Went straight to HK and got situated. Not too crowded early but did start to hop later early evening because of the carnival thing they were doing. Girls were for the most part not bad. Few lookers. Had some drinks with a girl I think was named Jessie, 22yo spinner with buck teeth, but a nice body. Very friendly, not snobby. After a few fechas, we started the negotiation. I was interested in the Mediterranean and was looking for an hour. She said she was a back door virgin, so it would be costly. Settled on $1. 4. Got a room upstairs for $25. Yikes. All the all night for $35 were taken. In the room, clothes come off. Smallish breasts, which I like. Not entirely clean shaven, stubbles below. DATY for a while. Clean. I was enjoying it so much that I prematurely let go! Then to my disappointment, I could not get jr upright again. Had not made the all important trip to the pharmacy yet. Much sucky and manipulation by jessie was of no avail. Maybe too much pressure. What a disappointment. Tried and tried. I did give her the settled upon dollars, because I really could not blame her. What a loser I am.
So off to San Diego. Came back the next day about the same time. Some girls the same, and others different. A young gal with a nice smile, 21yo named abigail? Caught my eye. Few fechas. I wanted to see what the VIP room was like and I was enjoying her company. So I took the 70 dollar plunge. It was a nice set up. We got the room overlooking the bar near the alley. The air conditioner was nice. Got her naked. She would not allow DATY! How lame. Wanted at least a BJ, but neither of had a cover. She kept on pushing for ariba, but I was still sour from my experience the day prior. I did have to keep an appointment in SD so I had to leave. Not really worth 70 dollars in my book. I don't really know what is allowed by most gals in this room. She did say that she would see only about $30 of that $70, so I guess that is why she was pushing for ariba.
Later I came back. Actually only 2 hours later. The line in and out Tijuana was not bad for a Friday evening. I was expecting the worst. Again back to HK. A lot busier. Some different girls. Waiter martin was my contact man there that day. Nice guy. Not too pushy. Brought over a tall thin young gal. Don't remember her name. She did say she does greek. But upstairs the story changed. Would not even let her finger her. So multiple positions, DATY. Cover came off somehow and much to my dismay and hers as well. She seemed upset, but not as upset as I was feeling. Exactly what do these health cards mean? Are they tested for HIV, Herpes? She was tight I must say. Rare down there in Tijuana I would think. She wore braces. Got dressed. Back to sd.
Did stop by AB just to check it out. Friday night they had some lookers for sure. Place is just not as fun for me as HK.
Looked for Socker, fellow monger but could not find him in a beattles cap.
All in all, I will have to head back.
Be safe
[QUOTE=Raddar]Thanks for the info. Not a bad deal really. There is a pharmacy at or near AB. I would think they have a boatload of vit V there. Good to know.
Raddar[/QUOTE]
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newbie to tj
Being a Caribbean and a Colombia monger I do not understand the term educanes, and what is with the sash etc? How do things work at the HK Club? Are all the chicas working?
Thanks,
Mel
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Dancing Chicas
Educanes: Show chic who do not have a health card yet. Danceing chica. Clearly identified with a sash ribbon.
In the past some educanes were available at twice the price after some effort and return trips.
[QUOTE=Mel365]Being a Caribbean and a Colombia monger I do not understand the term educanes, and what is with the sash etc? How do things work at the HK Club? Are all the chicas working?
Thanks,
Mel[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mel365]Being a Caribbean and a Colombia monger I do not understand the term educanes, and what is with the sash etc? How do things work at the HK Club? Are all the chicas working?
Thanks,
Mel[/QUOTE]
I had to jump on the opportunity to explain something to you, Mel. Usually you are doing the explaining to me, and other less fortunate mongers who don't get to partake of the chicas of SXM and CUR as often as you.
Hong Kong is similar to the brothels of SXM except much bigger. You walk in, pay the cover (if there is one) and order a drink. There are girls dancing on different stages throughout the facility. Sometimes there is a 2 girl show with lots of shaving cream and, sometimes, a lucky waiter who gets to join the girls. There are other girls in the bar sitting, walking around. If you want to talk to a girl, you approach her and start a conversation. Within a few seconds, a waiter will approach you and ask if you want to buy the girl a drink. If you agree, the girl will order the drink of her choice (which she gets a cut from the bar). When she is done the drink, the waiter will ask if you want her to have another. Once you say no, the girl will usually leave and start looking for her next drink provider. Some girls will just do this all night, and some will do this, along with going to the hotel next door for a 30 minute session (similar to SXM).
The educanes, or "sash girls", will usually just dance for tips and maybe drinks, but usually don't go to the hotel. They wear sashes, like beauty contestants. Most, I believe, are newbies, just breaking into the business and may not have their health cards like other sex workers are required. This is a new addition to HK that started about 2 years ago.
Hope this gives you a better idea of what goes on in this place. I will be contacting you for rec's in a couple months when I hit SXM.
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[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]
The educanes, or "sash girls", will usually just dance for tips and maybe drinks, but usually don't go to the hotel. They wear sashes, like beauty contestants. Most, I believe, are newbies, just breaking into the business and may not have their health cards like other sex workers are required. This is a new addition to HK that started about 2 years ago.
Hope this gives you a better idea of what goes on in this place. I will be contacting you for rec's in a couple months when I hit SXM.[/QUOTE]
An Edecán is a "spokemodel." In most instances in Mexico you'll see edecanes at sporting events, Oxxo openings, etc where you'll see fit girls representing beer (Tecate Girls) or other companies (Telcel, newspapers, etc). They'll be dancing to music in skimpy outfits emblazoned with their sponsor's logo. You can see thousands of examples googling for the term "edecan" in Google or YouTube (as there is no nudity, videos of edacanes abound on YouTube).
The Hong Kong application are as Ath Trainer mentions. They dance around sometimes in matching outfits and sashes for tips and fichas. For the most part they're there as eye candy. A few will do privados but rarely will go upstairs. Unlike the strippers who as the name implies strip. The edecanes will leave their clothes on. Contrary to popular myth, this is not like some internship or break-in period. For the most part, these girls don't see themselves as putas like the strippers and girls that go arriba.
Some edecanes will become full fledged HK girls that will strip, go to the room, etc after seeing the huge income potential some of the girls are getting.
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[QUOTE=Raddar]So finally I made it down to Tijuana after much anticipation. Arrived Thursday afternoon around 2 pm may 6th. Went straight to HK and got situated. Not too crowded early but did start to hop later early evening because of the carnival thing they were doing. Girls were for the most part not bad. Few lookers. Had some drinks with a girl I think was named Jessie, 22yo spinner with buck teeth, but a nice body. Very friendly, not snobby. After a few fechas, we started the negotiation. I was interested in the Mediterranean and was looking for an hour. She said she was a back door virgin, so it would be costly. Settled on $1. 4. Got a room upstairs for $25. Yikes. All the all night for $35 were taken. In the room, clothes come off. Smallish breasts, which I like. Not entirely clean shaven, stubbles below. DATY for a while. Clean. I was enjoying it so much that I prematurely let go! Then to my disappointment, I could not get jr upright again. Had not made the all important trip to the pharmacy yet. Much sucky and manipulation by jessie was of no avail. Maybe too much pressure. What a disappointment. Tried and tried. I did give her the settled upon dollars, because I really could not blame her. What a loser I am.
So off to San Diego. Came back the next day about the same time. Some girls the same, and others different. A young gal with a nice smile, 21yo named abigail? Caught my eye. Few fechas. I wanted to see what the VIP room was like and I was enjoying her company. So I took the 70 dollar plunge. It was a nice set up. We got the room overlooking the bar near the alley. The air conditioner was nice. Got her naked. She would not allow DATY! How lame. Wanted at least a BJ, but neither of had a cover. She kept on pushing for ariba, but I was still sour from my experience the day prior. I did have to keep an appointment in SD so I had to leave. Not really worth 70 dollars in my book. I don't really know what is allowed by most gals in this room. She did say that she would see only about $30 of that $70, so I guess that is why she was pushing for ariba.
Later I came back. Actually only 2 hours later. The line in and out Tijuana was not bad for a Friday evening. I was expecting the worst. Again back to HK. A lot busier. Some different girls. Waiter martin was my contact man there that day. Nice guy. Not too pushy. Brought over a tall thin young gal. Don't remember her name. She did say she does greek. But upstairs the story changed. Would not even let her finger her. So multiple positions, DATY. Cover came off somehow and much to my dismay and hers as well. She seemed upset, but not as upset as I was feeling. Exactly what do these health cards mean? Are they tested for HIV, Herpes? She was tight I must say. Rare down there in Tijuana I would think. She wore braces. Got dressed. Back to sd.
Did stop by AB just to check it out. Friday night they had some lookers for sure. Place is just not as fun for me as HK.
Looked for Socker, fellow monger but could not find him in a beattles cap.
All in all, I will have to head back.
Be safe[/QUOTE]Hey Raddar,
I was there Thursday afternoon between 2:30 and 4:00, hung out near the entry area, checked out the street level area, there were some nice chicas in that place. I also liked the HK better than Adelitas, I left and met up w/ a escort from Livelatinangels, at 4:30 at my hotel. Would of been fun to hook up, I liked the afternoon scene there, also went back at the same time on Friday, w/ a different hat though. I will probably make a return trip in July, thanks for trying, see ya next time maybe.
Socker
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thanks
Thanks Guys,
I will be returning to St Martin June 6 for 10 Days of fun in the Sun.
Hopefully my dream chica will have arrived.
Drop me a note if you ever go to SXM.
Mel