Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

Hello guys,

Had Ae from Mango a couple of days ago. I had my sights on her for a while because of good reviews and her pictures on the website. Also because I wanted some anal action.

Because of the holidays, many MPs are operating albeit with reduced staff. I know SW, Addict and Mango are open as well as some other MPs in that 24/1 alley.

Ae is nice looking with a bubbly. She was kinda agree at the beginning, throwing herself at me and grabbing my junk and stuff, kinda reminded me of Benz but less crazy. She went to pick her stuff (a couple of minutes only, no BS there) and came back. She got all kinky throwing herself on all fours on the bed asking me what we were going to do. She offered massage first but I declined. She demanded shower together first and I obliged. In the shower, she pretty much pinned me down and rubbed her pussy against my face. I did what I was supposed to, with heavy fingering. And then she put her finger up my butt. She stopped when I told her I don't like it. She thought that because I was fingering hers that I like that.

After that, on to the bed, some heavy rubbing from her part, without letting me do much, actually. A little bit of a let down as I like being the most active part. Managed to start DATY + ass fingering, then anal. Her ass is quite accommodating and I actually achieved a full erection inside her ass. Fucked her thoroughly and came quite fast.

Massage followed. Thumb up on her massage skills, then vaginal since she said she was hurting from the anal. I was surprised to come in her pussy as usually the vagina is not tight enough for my insensitive penis. I'm sure she was squeezing.

No DFK hence (to my standards) no GFE. Other than that, she provides what he customer wants but you get the feeling she's doing her job more than enjoying herself. In that she reminded me of Focus at Sky and Mimi at Dream Heaven. I would have liked to take my time with more mutual foreplay but that's usually not the standard. I left pleased but WIR is very unlikely.

Laters,

Nopo.

The police were just casually lounging around a certain Ratachada soapy yesterday. Was just 1 in the lounger, next to the door. And another one sitting outside monitoring the road. May be songkhran related and it may be that one of the officers (maybe more senior) just felt like sitting inside instead of outside.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1865115]Given all the talk about how the military dictatorship really does not like the P4 P scene (and speculation by some informed observers they may shut some of the places down at some point) I still am inclined to believe there is more to this story than that the owners of the establishment asked the police to raid their business so they could get control over their girls. But as before I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]This conversation started with a post that police were swarming around the DR BJ gel shop which was later explained by the owner as an arrangement he had made with them to check the girls for drugs. The consequent closure of the shop was explained as being for necessary repairs to the plumbing and electrical systems and had nothing to do with the visit from the police. Whether this is true is or not, who knows or cares, what seems obvious is that punters should stay well away from P4P shops that randomly have police visit their premises. Quite often police have camera crews and photographers in tow and I for one would rather my walk of shame not appear on channel 3 or the front page of the Thai Rath newspaper. It is perfectly understandable that employers cannot keep people with drug addictions on staff and with some reservations I can go along with in-house testing where this is made clear as part of the conditions of their employment but for the life of me I can understand calling in the police to do the checking.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1864969]You know that the Police can raid these places whenever they wish, whether on their own initiative or at the proprietor's request. There are videos on YouTube that show such raids. The punters are rarely if ever troubled and just keep sipping their drinks and await at leisure the return of the girls.[/QUOTE]You make it sound like something punters should somehow hope for as an amusement; especially when you are a tourist in a country half way around the world, and which is currently governed by a military junta which disapproves of your activity.

I guess I will have to change my thinking to something like:

[I]Gee l kinda hope this place gets raided when I am in the middle of a sexual encounter. It would be so trivial to have police offers enter the room and interrupt us. No big deal really if they decide to question me, or ask to see my ID, or drug test me, or take me down to the station, or publicize my predicament to make an example of me. I am just glad I have that extra baht with me because it might come in handy.[/I]

Not saying it isn't an occupational hazard of the hobby. It is. The closest I ever came was exiting an Amsterdam brothel and there was Politie in the hallway. But until you experience it firsthand I would suggest your [I]musings[/I] ring pretty hollow.

SL.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1865387]. It is perfectly understandable that employers cannot keep people with drug addictions on staff and with some reservations I can go along with in-house testing where this is made clear as part of the conditions of their employment but for the life of me I can understand calling in the police to do the checking.[/QUOTE]Correction.

For the life of me I cannot understand calling in the police. Incidentally despite some rumors doing the rounds they were not there looking for fake noses.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1865462]You make it sound like something punters should somehow hope for as an amusement; especially when you are a tourist in a country half way around the world, and which is currently governed by a military junta which disapproves of your activity.

I guess I will have to change my thinking to something like:

[I]Gee l kinda hope this place gets raided when I am in the middle of a sexual encounter. It would be so trivial to have police offers enter the room and interrupt us. No big deal really if they decide to question me, or ask to see my ID, or drug test me, or take me down to the station, or publicize my predicament to make an example of me. I am just glad I have that extra baht with me because it might come in handy.[/I]

Not saying it isn't an occupational hazard of the hobby. It is. The closest I ever came was exiting an Amsterdam brothel and there was Politie in the hallway. But until you experience it firsthand I would suggest your [I]musings[/I] ring pretty hollow.

SL.[/QUOTE]As probably most of the members here I like to live my life quietly and without attracting undue attention, but also I do not wish to make too much out of something that is indeed somewhat of an occupational hazard of the hobby.

I'm sure that the "arranged raids" are not done with camera crews in tow and perhaps "arranging" for a raid now and then may even lower the risk of an unannounced raid with all the attendant fuzz and publicity.

Anyhow, there is nothing we can do about it, so I don't worry about it. Good and bad things happen for no obvious reasons and we simply carry on with our own lifes.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1865691]As probably most of the members here I like to live my life quietly and without attracting undue attention, but also I do not wish to make too much out of something that is indeed somewhat of an occupational hazard of the hobby.

I'm sure that the "arranged raids" are not done with camera crews in tow and perhaps "arranging" for a raid now and then may even lower the risk of an unannounced raid with all the attendant fuzz and publicity.

Anyhow, there is nothing we can do about it, so I don't worry about it. Good and bad things happen for no obvious reasons and we simply carry on with our own lifes.[/QUOTE]Living the quiet life is indeed a worthy path to follow which is precisely why leaving the lads at the station makes more sense than inviting them round for a visit. Re being sure camera crews are left behind well good luck with that. You may have noticed that they rarely miss an opportunity to showcase their accomplishments and believing an owner of a sex business in Soi 7/1 has control over the PR department at Lumpini station is rather fanciful but yes you're right life goes on and personally I feel enough space has been devoted to this topic.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1864969]You know that the Police can raid these places whenever they wish, whether on their own initiative or at the proprietor's request. There are videos on YouTube that show such raids. The punters are rarely if ever troubled and just keep sipping their drinks and await at leisure the return of the girls.

I was not saying it is a good business model, but rather that I can see some logic in that model and that we read too much in what for this type of business is just a minor inconvenience.

Do you remember that some months ago Suzi Wong was raided and an [url=[URL]http://isgprohibitedwords.info[/URL]?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902]url] girl was found working there? In the West, such a thing would be front page news and that club would be finished for ever. Suzi Wong reopened a few days later and I'm sure nobody really cared. [.

You are missing the point Wolvenvacht. Yes addiction to yaba or to opiate based substances is a serious issue in Thailand and those affected need detox treatment and rehabilitation, the issue is how to go about doing this. If a member of staff is displaying symptoms of drug use and it is becoming a problem you can simply fire her and wash your hands of the situation or you could show some sympathy and try and help. The owner of the so called DR BJ shops has admitted that he does his own in-house testing so why bring the police into it and possibly have the woman incarcerated. You seem to think that it's no big deal for a customer to be on a premises where he is paying for sexual services while the police are roaming around rounding up the girls. It is not the same as having a drink at a bar and I for one would stay well clear of any place where this was likely to happen. I have visited Thailand on a number of occasions have partied a lot and apart from witnessing the behavior of some nut job lady boys on walking street in Pattaya I have never encountered a drug crazed provider or heard of incidents where they trashed hotel rooms. I have no doubt some working girls are users of yaba, the profession is not an easy lifestyle but let's show a little more sympathy towards them and leave the police out of it.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1860552]I suggest that you try going for ladies who recommend themselves to you by showing you signs that they want to go with you. And if several ladies are recommending themselves to you, then you should choose the one who is more enthusiastic about it.

Because these ladies aren't just flirting. They really mean to do it with you. And this means that the lady probably won't change her attitude with you, when she goes to the private room with you.

It's only in Western countries a lot women flirt, without any intention to deliver on their non-verbal promises. And that's why you can't trust this kind of behavior there.

But it's a totally different situation, when the lady fully intends to do it with you. Because her imagination is already full of your penetration, when she thinks that you will accept her invitation. Her level of enthusiasm is a pretty good indication of how much she psyched herself up to do it with you.

I've tried it both ways, doing it with ladies recommended to me by others, and doing it with ladies who recommended themselves to me. And my experiences have always been much better, when I went for ladies who recommended themselves to me.[/QUOTE]Dan,

I agree 100%. The way to find someone who you will enjoy is to find someone who is enthusiastic. Looks and body are important, but attitude is the sine que non.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1860881]A few points I'd like to add based on my experiences in soapies.

1. Over enthusiasm (lots of forced smiling, obvious gestures of affection) can lead to very bad (bordering scam level) experiences. In my experience, forced enthusiasm equates to "no doggy style," CBJ, rushed service. And by the time it's over, you can tell they really dislike you overall. I find these women to be rather callous. They're enthusiasm isn't stemming from wanting to fuck, it's from wanting to screw you out of your money. And their enthusiasm and care-free attitude is enabled by management, who lets them get away with low service. If management is allowing this, then usually most all the girls are low quality service (sex tourist traps like cupidy, sabai dee in pattaya).

2. Typically if they are shouting / talking to me in a soapy, it's a BAD sign. They are mercenary and see fresh meat. If they are really animated, they are on drugs (which isn't a bad thing per se, it actually leads to decent bed performance, but expect a lot of up sells and nearly coercive demands for tips).

3. Subtle bedroom eye contact enthusiasm is the best. It's hard to fake, and people don't try to lie that hard as to get this wrong. You know within 1 second if the girl is at least mildly interested on very initial impression.

4. Any initial, reactionary lack of eye contact. Lack of maintaining eye contact for the first initial eye contact is a deal breaker for me. I just don't get turned on by awkward encounters where I know the girl just hates being the the room with me. It's a real experience killer for me. And as Crocodilexp said well, it's an uphill battle.

Generally, just normal eye contact and normal smiles. Nothing too long, no smiles too big. Definitely no to aggressive women who are talking from their chair and cracking witty adlib like "tick tock tick tock" while you are choosing.

As for women "craving the cock". Women like sex as much as men, so certainly. And working in a brothel all day makes them horny. So horny that they can't wait to get home and fuck their boy friends. Any man who even walks inside those doors as a customer is seen as low status and therefore not exactly a very strong aphrodisiac to them. Yeah they're horny, but the guys coming in (solo falangs, socially awkward Japanese sex tourists, older thai men with money) are all very low status / undesirable to them to "crave".[/QUOTE]This is an interesting comment. In general, I think you get better service with someone who is clearly interested in you. However, Parkville is right that if she is over-enthusiastic, that's not a good sign. I try to pick one who engages with me by eye contact and smiles, but is not jumping up and down. I think Parkville overstates his point, but he's right to avoid the over-enthusiastic ones, but if she shows a lot of interest, she will usually make you happy in bed.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1866025]Dan,

I agree 100%. The way to find someone who you will enjoy is to find someone who is enthusiastic. Looks and body are important, but attitude is the sine que non.[/QUOTE]I disagree somewhat. I am very wary of girls acting wildly enthusiastic, or any signs of fakeness. Playful tongue in cheek acting is okay If she is hamming it up as a joke.

I watch girls for any signs of a very disagreeable expression re myself or anyone else in the place. Those that manage to look like they have nice character are OK for me even if they are paying me no attention at all. Some girls are very bored and believe it is not their place to act desperate for a fuck. Some of these very shy, or even disinterested girls, can transform, once it is clear that I want them and am not a waste of time for them.

I hate girls that talk dirty, and that is almost certainly not a Thai thing, and therefore just an act. Have had to tell western girls talking dirty to shut up on a rare ocassion.

I like girls to be classy, sexy, seductive, natural, and definitely not talk too much. A language barrier is no barrier to good sex. I never care if girl can speak English or not. Cuban girls speaking Spanish have been fabulous for me. A language barrier is fun for a change.

I can talk to girls over a drink. Not during sex too much.

If a girl recommends herself literally, I would be very wary. I guess Dan doesn't mean it literally.

Some girls have been very keen to go with me a second time. I had to tell them "Don't you remember you were crap last time." LOL Plenty of girls have an overly high opinion of themselves. Also plenty of great girls are overly modest and would never self promote much.

If I can't detect a bad attitude, that is good enough for me.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1866025]Looks and body are important, but attitude is the sine que non.[/QUOTE]I agree. For me attitude is twice as important as looks. Expressed mathematically:

Looks:10 and Attitude:7 = ((10 x1)+(7 x2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks:7 and Attitude:10 = ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

Still working on how much to weight [I]price[/I] in the equation to come up with a total VFM (value for money) calculation LOL.

SL.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1866182]I agree. For me attitude is twice as important as looks. Expressed mathematically:

Looks:10 and Attitude:7 = ((10 x1)+(7 x2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks:7 and Attitude:10 = ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

Still working on how much to weight [I]price[/I] in the equation to come up with a total VFM (value for money) calculation LOL.

SL.[/QUOTE]You need to somehow incorporate threshold values into your equation methinks. For example, the equation goes astray in the following (rather extreme) hypothetical:

Looks: 0 and Attitude: 10 = ((0 x 1) + (10 x 2))/3 = 7 overall (rounding up). I'm sorry but if she is the ugliest thing to walk on this earth there is no way attitude can bring her up to a 7. Nice first try but I'm afraid your desirability scale needs some work!

Not a Seven even if she gives great BJs (blow or blubber jobs, your choice) and enthusiastically rims!:
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[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1866182]I agree. For me attitude is twice as important as looks. Expressed mathematically:

Looks:10 and Attitude:7 = ((10 x1)+(7 x2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks:7 and Attitude:10 = ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

Still working on how much to weight [I]price[/I] in the equation to come up with a total VFM (value for money) calculation LOL.

SL.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you. Once I selected a good looking girl in fish bowl in Pattaya. All went well and while in the tub I put some water on her hair and she got really angry and started to shout on me. In another instance I selected a girl who was willing to spend time with me and was not so looking good. But she was very happy and cooperative in all aspects.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1866193]You need to somehow incorporate threshold values into your equation methinks.[/QUOTE]While I see your point and appreciate your humor 555 for me looks is an initial screen and contains a built in threshold. My equation is more an after the fact evaluation; as before the fact attitude can be superficial. A P4 P lady with such low ranking looks would not even proceed to the point where I could evaluate her sexual performance.

SL.