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Per ETs characterizations of Dirty Joes mayhem and murderous crime wave sweeping every corner of the country 24/7.
[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/senate-warns-increased-crime-capitol-080049392.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/son-nashville-police-chief-sought-234556454.html?fbclid=IwAR2nENEmoKKSfeHFYJH2vhnwHYEKwaQmLWiq0tvLSrUJ2tR4j1cf1iXLYq8[/URL]
In the Republican way!
"No wonder polls are showing registered voter respondents fleeing from Biden and the Dems and flocking to Trump and his fellow Repubs today! Same as we read about here, of course.
Just look at what Mainstream Media has been harping on and what all Repubs, all Repubs claiming to be "Independents" and some other poll respondents claiming to be Dems agree is the most terrifying threat to the America today:
Top newspapers mention Bidens age more than twice as often as Trumps.
Since the president announced his 2024 campaign, five major USA Papers have mentioned Bidens age in 332 articles and Trumps in just 158.
[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/los-angeles-times/top-newspapers-mention-bidens-age-more-twice-often-trumps[/URL]
Gov. Karen Has Had It, Is Taking 'Woke' Words To The Manager.
Wait, is she the manager, or is there a CEO at the Woke Department she's going to talk to?
[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2023/10/gov-karen-has-had-it-taking-woke-words[/URL]
And take a gander at the delicious carrot of plans Trump is dangling over American voters' eyes if their terror over the previous issues works as hoped for by Bill Maher and MSM and they grace America and the World with a second of many future Trump so-called presidential terms!
Donald Trumps answer on what he would do in a 2nd term is literally unintelligible.
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/28/politics/donald-trump-2nd-term-new-york-times/index.html[/URL]
27 Insane Things Trump Said he Will Do in a 2nd Term.
A list with dates and links.
[URL]https://www.meidastouch.com/news/27-insane-things-trump-said-he-will-do-in-a-2nd-term[/URL]
Seriously, who can hear and read those issues and not be compelled to reject Biden / Dems and embrace Trump / Pink Tinkle Do Nothing Know Nothings in the polls?
Whats wrong your couldn't find more ridiculous websites to link, pro tip try the Onion.
Oh wait that's where I think you grabbed these silly links.
No offense jajajaja but nobody with even only an ounce of intelligence would read those childish websites.
Here Ill even throw you sum help jajajajaja.
[URL]https://justthenews.com/accountability/media/what-scam-elon-musk-calls-newsguard-be-disbanded[/URL]
Go ahead ET now you can start posting Newsguard links they are right up your tinfoil hat alley jajajajajajajajaja.
"Thanks. The facts and data are always convincing. And I absolutely have the facts and data on my side.
Hmm. John Wayne Gacy might be one of the rare exceptions to the serial killer thing you suggested.
However, there is no exception to that consistent, beyond all possible matters of chance or coincidence atrocious Outgoing Repub handoff to the Incoming Dem vs the Far Superior Outgoing Dem handoff to the Incoming Repub historical pattern for the past century or so.
Now, if the lucky Incoming Repubs varied wildly in the kind of idiotic Repub economic and tax policies along with a general contempt and inattention to regulations and the enforcement of regulations they favored, proposed and were guided by before their typical Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession and / or Massive Repub Jobs Destruction inevitably kicked in, well, maybe we could chalk up most or some of those consistent Repub stewardship and policy results as "wild coincidences. ".
But they didn't and don't. That's why their historically disastrous results only vary by degree here and there. ".
Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist.
How about Mao.
How about Stalin.
How about Pol Pot.
How about Che or even Sodom Hussein (and yes related to Barry Hussein) and et al.
Add up all these deaths and brutal murders!!
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2861873]Age and gender of children sexually abused by priests: [URL]https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Age-and-gender-of-children-sexually-abused-by-priests-at-the-time-the-abuse-began_fig3_247523934[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice plethora of articles, research and informational data points, for readers to examine and draw their own conclusions, given the discussion here.
But they do provide a good data set, highlight and substantiate, many of my talking points.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2861873] [b]A priest in Florida put it this way: A third are gay, a third are straight and a third dont know what the hell they are.[/b][/QUOTE]This priest's candid estimation, is probably spot on and closer to the truth, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2861873] Regardless of whether it's a boy or a girl, or the sexual orientation of the perpetrator, it's sick. We all agree about that. [/QUOTE]Agreed! But [B]"it"[/B] (sexual abuse) "being sick", was [U]NEVER[/U] in question!
So just to be clear ([i]not starting an fight here, but[/i]), the [B][i]"whether it's a boy or a girl"[/B][/i] AND the [i][b]"sexual orientation of the perpetrator"[/b][/i], parts of your statement/comment are what's most relevant to the debate between MDS1, myself and others.
Ergo, those quintessential talking points, are what's [U]at the very center[/U] of the debate and paramount to the crux of the discussion, as some of us are claiming their antithetical beliefs and facts (contrary to prevailing wisdom), and spouting it as "gospel" (pun intended).
There will always be those that [U]live in denial[/U] of the facts, staring them in the face. That type of [U]extreme denial[/U], [b]is on solely them[/b], as there's not much you can do or say!!
And Offenders.
Understanding the Sexual Abuse Crisis in the Catholic Church: Challenges with.
Prevention PoliciesClergy Sexual AbuseK. J. Terry.
Karen J. Terry.
John Jay College of Criminal Justice, New York, New York, USA.
Abstract: Child sexual abuse by Catholic priests was recognized as a crisis in 2002.
And in response the USA Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) created the Charter.
For the Protection of Children and Young People. At the time little was known about.
Clergy abusers, their victims, or the situations regarding their abusive behavior. John.
Jay College researchers published two reports on the nature and scope of child sexual.
Abuse by Catholic priests that provided descriptive information about this problem.
(John Jay College, 2004,2006). This article provides descriptive information about.
Clergy abusersincluding demographics, victim choice, grooming behavior, duration.
Of abusive behavior, and issues related to the reporting of offenses by victims. Policy.
Implications are discussed based upon the comparison of clergy to nonclergy abusers.
As with child sexual abuse in any population, effective prevention policies are.
Challenging to implement due to the interaction of many variables related to the.
Abuse process.
CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE: [B]UNDERSTANDING ABUSERS
AND THOSE THEY ABUSE[/B].
[B]Sex offenders constitute a [u]heterogeneous population[/u][/B] Even the offenders who.
Sexually abuse children differ greatly, depending on factors such as level of.
Attraction to children and social competence (Groth, Hobson, & Gary, 1982;.
Knight & Prentky, 1990). Yet, they are often grouped together by the media.
As and referred to as "fiends, monsters and predators" (Jenkins, 1998) who.
Recidivate at high levels (Douard, 2007). Several emotionally charged cases of.
Sexual abuse and murder of children in the late 1980's led to what some.
Researchers called a moral panic (Jenkins, 1998), resulting in increased levels.
Of monitoring, policing, adjudicating, and incarcerating of sex offenders.
(Simon & Zgoba, 2006). Sex offender policies, including registration and com-.
Munity notification, sexually violent predator legislation, and mandatory.
Chemical castration for paroled sex offenders became popular solutions to the.
Perceived sex offender problem.
[b]Because of their [u]heterogeneity[/u], one-size-fits-all policies for sex offenders
may not be effective at reducing abusive behavior.[/b] Many factors influence the
etiology of deviant sexual behavior, including physiological factors, a poor
psychosexual development, deviant sexual arousal, learned conditions, poor
quality attachments, loneliness and intimacy problems, poor social skills, and
low self-confidence and self-esteem (Robertiello & Terry, 2007).
Sex offenders do have some characteristics in common, however they have a later onset of
deviant behavior than nonsex offenders, are often more educated, of all racial
and ethnic groups, and of all socioeconomic classes (Terry, 2006) 36 K. J. Terry
the John Jay researchers took several steps to ensure uniformity in completion
of the surveys. They provided all dioceses with written instructions, a video
explaining how to complete the surveys, a toll-free number to call from nine to
five, and access to a Web site with answers to frequently asked questions. Once
the dioceses completed their surveys, they sent the surveys in a double envelope
to an independent auditor at a national accounting firm in Washington D.C.
The auditor gave each diocese a unique, random code; discarded the outer enve-
lope or box with the diocesan information; and sent the surveys to John Jay for
analysis. For a more detailed account of the methodology, see Terry (in press).
[b]RESULTS[/b]
The results of this study indicate that clergy sexual abusers are similar in
many ways to the nonclergy population of abusers. They commit a variety of
offenses (often in the home of the abuser or the victim), they have a late onset
of deviant behavior, similar grooming techniques, and few specialize in a
particular victim type. However, they differ in regard to victim gender and
length of time they wait to disclose the abuse.
According to victimization studies of sexual abuse, more females than
males are sexually victimized, but this differs in the clergy population. As
Figure 3 shows, priests abused [u]significantly more boys (81%) than [b]girls (19%).[/u][/b]
The majority of victims (51%) were between the ages of 11 and 14, 27% were
15–17, 16% were 8–10 and 6% were under age 7. About 40% of all victims
were males between 11 and 14. The mean age of male victims was older than
the mean age of female victims. The more victims the offenders had, victims
tended to be both younger and male.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2861926]
When I whisper in their ear I want to "RAPE the fuck out of you" theyve replied.
"you cannot rape the willing".
Regardless of whether it's a boy or a girl, or the sexual orientation of the perpetrator, it's sick. We all agree about that. ".
No we can't all agree, that's ASININE!! On steroids.
Have you ever asked girlfriends or wives their sexually fantasies? Many will say to be forcibly raped by 1 or more men.
Now ask 1000000000 straight teen boys their sexual fantasies, how many do you think will say to be raped by a man?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2861923]
Are you joking?
Here's a hypothetical question.
When you were in grammar school.
What do you think would have been the impact of some female teacher did something with you sexually?
[URL]https://people.com/crime/mary-kay-letourneau-and-her-student-husband-vili-fualaau-now/[/URL]
With lots of law enforcement men with my friends and family.
The joke is, prison is for ugly women and stoopid men.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/mar/24/usa.gender[/URL]
No one is locking up beautiful white women for having sex with their students, nor should they!![/QUOTE]LOL. I provided info that supports your view better than Spidy's. You may not have been able to tell that because the researchgate link is broken now. Spidy however located the paper (Karen J. Terry's) the graph came from and posted on it below. I'm not finding a link to the full paper with the graphs though. One showed a much larger number of boys than girls being abused.
I maintain that all of us, including you, believe sexual abuse of girls and boys by priests and nuns is sick. That's using my definition of "sexual abuse. " I'm not getting into this further because I don't think discussion of adults having sex with boys and girls, except to condemn it, is in the best interests of this site.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2862183]LOL. I provided info that supports your view better than Spidy's. [/QUOTE]RIGHT! So why don't you explain to us JUST EXACTLY what MDS1 view was? Please tell us?
I urge to go back and read ALL of MDS1's comment and THEN come back and tell us WHAT EXACTLY WERE HIS VIEWS?
IF YOU are going to jump in mid-stream into the debate, KNOW WHAT DEBATE IS ABOUT!!!!
Examination of a Nascent Taxonomy of Priest Sexual Grooming.
[B]Abstract[/B]
Research has established that sexually abusive priests often use grooming strategies.
On victims. Recently, researchers have proposed a behavioral taxonomy used.
Specifically by clergy who sexually abuse children. Because this nascent taxonomy has.
Only been studied once using a limited sample of sexually abusive priests, we seek to.
Replicate and expand on its findings using a sample of abusive clergy from a separate.
Institution. Specifically, we analyzed files of 18 monks in Minnesota who were credibly.
Accused of sexual abuse. Using a deductive approach, we searched through these.
Files in an effort to find all instances of eight clergy sexual grooming behaviors that.
Were identified in previous research by Spraitz, Bowen, and Strange. Our findings.
Suggest there is evidence to support the existence of this taxonomy of priest sexual.
Grooming, although we argue that certain aspects of the centerpiece technique of.
Their classification scheme are faulty and must be studied more extensively.
Many clinicians and researchers agree that grooming often takes place with child sex-.
Ual abuse. Specifically, grooming is the preparatory acts preceding sexual abuse (I. A.
Elliott, 2017; Seto, 2008). Craven, Brown, and Gilchrist (2006) have developed one of.
The clearest and most comprehensive definitions of grooming to date.
Bennett and O'Donohue (2014) reported that grooming often resembles normal.
Adultchild relationships. Therefore, it can be difficult to identify without any knowl-.
Edge about the phenomenon. As Gillespie (2004) stated, grooming is "a transient fea-.
Ture that is difficult to capture and virtually impossible to decide when it begins and.
Ends" (p. 586). It is usually a long-term rapport-building process that is planned.
(Winters & Jeglic, 2016) and takes place before initiating sexual contact (see I. A.
Elliott, 2017; Leclerc, Proulx, & Beauregard, 2009). As many sexual offenders use.
Grooming (I. A. Elliott, 2017), it is important to understand grooming and the behav-.
Iors associated with it (Craven et al. , 2006; Winters & Jeglic, 2017).
Concerning [B]the Catholic Church[/B], extensive research has established that from 1950.
To 2002 about 4% (n = 4,392) of priests in the United States sexually abused minors.
(Terry, 2008). Exploratory research of accused priests from the Roman Catholic.
Diocese of Joliet in Illinois uncovered that sexually abusive clergy utilize grooming.
Patterns similar to those used by general sexual offenders (Spraitz, Bowen, & Strange.
2018). However, Spraitz and colleagues found that the priests in their sample used a.
Grooming technique not available to most other sexual offenders. Namely, in their.
Roles as priests, they are acting in persona Christi or as an extension of God and Jesus.
In human form. This designation is one that elicits a tremendous amount of reverence.
And respect from parishioners and others affiliated with the Church. Through the.
Research conducted in this analysis, we sought to replicate the work of Spraitz et al. To.
Do so, we analyzed files of credibly accused clergy from a different Catholic institu-.
Tion. This allowed us to learn whether Spraitz and colleagues' proposed taxonomy of.
Priest sexual grooming is limited to abusers from the lone diocese they analyzed or.
Whether it can be applied more generally to other abusive clerics. In what follows, we.
Will discuss our research process and findings as well as provide analysis. We first.
Discuss what is already known about sexual grooming generally in addition to groom-.
Ing techniques utilized by abusive clergy.
Grooming Process.
Grooming of child sexual abuse victims is a complex process (A. Williams, 2015).
Empirical research has found that many individuals who commit sex crimes report.
Behaviors consistent with grooming before initiating sexual abuse (see I. A. Elliott,
2017; Lanning & Dietz, 2014; Leclerc et al. , 2009). Winters and Jeglic (2017) sepa-.
Rated the process into stages, offering a clearer glimpse into the multifaceted progres-.
Sion of grooming.
The first stage of grooming is the selection of a victim. Selection can be based on.
Numerous factors, including victim attractiveness (M. Elliott, Browne, & Kilcoyne.
1995) or psychological vulnerabilities (M. Elliott et al. , 1995; Finkelhor, 1994; Olson.
Daggs, Ellevold, & Rogers, 2007; are. Williams, Elliott, & Beech, 2013), and family.
Situations that make children vulnerable, such as reduced supervision, family discord.
Or substance abuse.
As shown, empirical research offers insight into common grooming behaviors uti-.
Lized by those who committed a sexual offense against a child. Despite the empirical.
Advances in the grooming literature, there is still room to grow (A. Williams, 2015).
And much to be learned about grooming behaviors within an institutional context such.
As the Catholic Church. Clergy are in a unique position of trust that other individuals.
Do not have. For this reason, it is important to examine clergy grooming techniques in.
More depth. The following section presents what we know from the limited prior.
Research.
[B]Clergy Sexual Abuse[/B]
Before the early 2000's, empirical research on clergy sexual abuse was scant. Since.
Then, public awareness of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church has increased (see.
Easton, Saltzman, & Willis, 2014), due in large part to The Boston Globe investigative.
Series in 2002. Empirically, researchers from John Jay College of Criminal Justice.
(2004) conducted a large-scale national study of clergy sexual abuse that increased.
Attention on the topic. The estimated prevalence of clergy sexual abuse in the Catholic.
Church in the United States ranges between 4% and 8% of clergy (Bottoms, Shaver.
Goodman, & Qin, 1995; John Jay College of Criminal Justice, 2004; Loftus &.
Camargo, 1993; Terry, 2008).
Although many of the findings from the John Jay research is beyond the scope of.
This study, some of the findings suggest that priests are able to gain trust and compli-.
Ance of victims and their families simply because of their profession (see Holt &.
Massey, 2012). Easton et al. (2014) utilized a sample of 460 male survivors of child.
Sexual abuse. Of their sample, approximately 61% of the victims had been abused by.
A clergy member. Participants discussed the additional barriers encountered by victims.
Of clergy perpetrators. As one participant explained it, "How can a man get raped, and.
By a priest, it's the same as getting raped by God" (p. 465). Another participant said.
That the priest threatened, ". . . I would go to hell if I told anyone" (p. 465).
In an interview with legal counsel, another male victim was asked why he had not warned
other classmates and altar boys to stay away from one of the abusive monks. The victim
responded,
[Quote=Priest Victim]Because as I was raised right and taught in the Catholic Church these people could do no
harm, they’re the next best thing to God. It was a confusing situation. Morals told me
something wasn’t right . . . reality said, oh, roll with it, he’s a fucking priest [/QUOTE]
It sure as hell looks like the link [b]YOU[/b] provided, CLEARLY shows PRIESTS sexually abusing GIRLS.
Something MDS1, says priests don't do and NEVER have sexually abused girls.
YOUR link YOU provide says otherwise.
[b]Understanding the Sexual Abuse Crisis in the Catholic Church: Challenges with Prevention Policies[/b]
[URL]https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Age-and-gender-of-children-sexually-abused-by-priests-at-the-time-the-abuse-began_fig3_247523934[/URL]
Something YOU obviously missed your buddy cohort saying. So again, may I suggest you TAKE THE TIME, go-back and re-read said posts from MDS1, before you jump to more silly conclusions.
Becoming whole again: The goal of women's struggle against sex abuse in Catholic schools in the Philippines1.
ABSTRACT.
This article focuses on sex abuse and abuse of power.
In Catholic schools in the Philippines. I argue that these.
Schools should ground policy design and decision-making.
On the relational safety model developed by Maria Carmen.
Be. La Viña and her colleagues at the Catholic Safeguarding.
Institute, and on a holistic pastoral approach developed by.
Nila Bermisa. The latter offers a life-giving vision on what to.
Aim for in dealing with abuse as Christians, namely renewal.
And a movement toward fullness of life. I show that failure.
To reference the work of these two women is connected to.
The commission of egregious mistakes such as promoting.
Silence and secrecy that further harm victims, partiality.
Toward abusers, perpetuating organisational structures.
That correlate with abuse, and failing to listen to women.
Who point to a connection between abuse and patriarchal.
Catholic culture.
1. INTRODUCTION.
Over the past few years, young people in the Philippines have come.
Forward with stories about sex abuse and how Catholic schools.
Ailed to respond adequately to what was happening under their watch.
These stories became a rallying point for a burgeoning social movement.
With young people at the forefront of the push for accountability. Women.
Are involved in two ways. First, most of those victimised are women.
Or girls. Secondly, several women are involved in advocating for, and.
Accompanying victims of abuse.
Although protest and dissatisfaction with Catholic schools' response.
To abuse started prior to 2020,2 a more serious reckoning came about.
During the pandemic. It is probably no accident that what started as a.
Trickle of anonymous online postings became a deluge of published.
Interlocking narratives about sex abuse and its mishandling, at a time.
When the online modality of communication and learning became more.
Prominent. The first few stories that emerged in 2020 referred to incidents.
In Miriam College. The stories were amplified and shared widely until there.
Were approximately 30,000 posts related to the hashtag #MCDoBetter on.
Twitter. More stories from other schools emerged and the young people.
Came together in solidarity, their main interest being to hold abusers and.
School administration accountable. This came with a challenge against.
Authority in a predominantly Catholic country, where administrators, even.
In non-denominational or public schools, wield moral authority related to.
The church or Christianity. 3 As the country and the world return to campus.
The young people's push for schools to do better continues.
[QUOTE]In this article, I answer the following questions: How do we understand
and address problems associated with sex abuse and abuse of power
in Catholic schools in the Philippines? [/QUOTE]2. WOMEN COME FORWARD AND SCHOOLS RESPOND.
[QUOTE]irst, a few words on terminology. I take the phrase “sex abuse” to
cover all forms of sexual misconduct, including sexual harassment.
The latter is a specific form of abuse that consists in unwanted and
inappropriate sexual advances made by a superordinate or peer within
work or school contexts. I take “sex abuse” to cover a broader range of
cases. [/QUOTE]. .
2. 1 Survivor narratives.
The protest against the way in which schools handle abuse has a.
Twofold purpose: to exert pressure on school authorities to do better.
And to empower victim-survivors to come forward to tell their stories (if.
They so desire). Prior to 2020, anonymous reports about abuse already.
Proliferated online. But there has long been a taboo against topics such as.
Grooming. Investigative reports that emerged during the pandemic have.
Allowed survivors to break this taboo.
. .
6. CONCLUSION.
I now bring together the lessons from sections 3-5 to illustrate how school.
Communities can move forward in a difficult but productive way. The.
Following practical recommendations specifically address the problems.
Enumerated in section 3.
• [B]Recognise that the twin evils of sex abuse and abuse of power are
associated with social structures and organisational culture.[/B] Schools.
Need to implement policies that incorporate lessons on grooming, sex.
In the forbidden zone, and other hard-won lessons from the church's.
Experience with abuse. Aside from ensuring that the focus is not merely.
On compliance with Philippine law, grievance mechanisms must be.
Developed so that victim-survivors can speak out about problems on.
Internal processing of complaints. It must be clear that the goal of such.
Internal processes is to bring about justice. This depends on seeking.
The abuser's unqualified admission of guilt, repentance, and reform;.
Or producing a clear official decision that delivers judgement on guilt.
And imposes appropriate punishment. Policy must be redesigned to.
Produce either or both of these outcomes.
• Instead of using reputation or track record as a protection against.
Further scrutiny, persons in authority must take on a humble stance. This.
Means allowing their decisions to be regularly examined by a critical.
Audience that enjoys a measure of independence. It would be helpful.
For these audits not to take on a hierarchical focus that privileges the.
Perspective of clergy and religious. Humble listening to criticism and.
Protest is needed.
Between Heaven and Hell: Spillover Effects of Exogenous Shocks on Exits from the Catholic and Protestant Churches in Germany.
For decades, the annual numbers of exits of members from the Catholic Church and Protestant Church have been.
Increasing. Closer inspection of diocese-level data shows that the time-series pattern of exits is nonlinear with a.
Series of intermediate peaks. This paper uses an event study approach to model the impacts of various scandals.
On church exit rates. We find that sexual abuse and financial scandals located in the Catholic Church contribute to.
Increased exit rates not just in that Church but also, by way of spillover effects, to higher exit rates of Protestant.
Church members.
INTRODUCTION.
In Germany, the annual exit rate of members from the Catholic Church has been increasing.
For decades. This trend, however, is not linear, but is punctuated by several intermediate peaks that.
Might have been caused by certain events or "shocks. " Recent shocks like the public disclosure of.
Abuse scandals might have driven exit rates. In Pennsylvania, thousands of cases of sexual abuse.
Have been documented in the 40th Statewide Investigating Grand Jury report 1 and have received.
Broad media coverage in the last decade. In Germany, the situation is not much different: Just.
Recently, the Catholic Church in Germany published the results of a systematic investigation of.
Sexual abuse cases. It revealed that 3,677 mostly male minors became victims of sexual abuse.
Between 1946 and 2014.1 In early 2010, a number of cases of sexual abuse of altar boys by.
Catholic priests became public for the first time. Since then, the Catholic Church has had to.
Publicly deal with this scandal, the dimension of which still remains unknown.
However, the abuse scandals were not the only shocks hitting the Catholic Church as a num-.
Ber of financial scandals became public since 2014, when the bishop of the diocese of Limburg.
Was found guilty of misallocating public funds of at least 31 million euros to renovate his resi-.
Dence. 2 Similar cases were revealed in other dioceses like Eichstätt,3 where 50 million euros of.
Public funds had been diverted in investments in real estate in the United States. Another case.
Occurred in the diocese of Freiburg where the bishop's relevant staff ceased to pay social security.
Contribution for the entire diocese's staff, the amount of which has been estimated to be as high.
As 160 million euros.
In this paper, we take such shocks as exogenous events and investigate their impact on mem-.
Ber exits from the Catholic Church in Germany. While we are particularly interested in the effect.
The abuse and nancial scandal have on exit rates, we also try to investigate these shocks in com-.
Parison to other events happening in the Catholic Church, such as the election of Popes or the.
Announcement of encyclicals such as Humanae Vitae. Moreover, we also take into consideration.
Political events like the fall of the Berlin Wall and the introduction of the solidarity tax or changes.
In the German tax system for reasons to be explained below. Further, we also analyze whether.
These shocks have spillover effects to the Protestant Church, resulting in higher Protestant exit.
Rates as a response to the shocks occurring in the Catholic Church. The remainder of this paper is.
Organized as follows: First, we present a brief review of the relevant previous literature. Second,
We describe our theoretical and methodological framework, followed by descriptive statistics and.
Econometric ndings. We then discuss our ndings. The paper ends with a conclusion.
The Role of Scandals in the Catholic Church.
Following disclosure of the sexual abuse scandals in the diocese of Regensburg in 2010, many.
Of the leading representatives of the Catholic Church preferred to ignore the irritation and even.
Horror that these events had caused among their members. Instead, many church ofcials started.
To neglect core aspects of their work, like the spiritual care and general welfare of the members.
Of their church (Barth 2010:784) in an attempt to prevent elucidation of the different scandals.
To impede (presumably) "unjustied" critique and to avoid (further) reputational damages.
As individuals typically identify themselves with the social group (s) they belong to, they.
Tend to experience their positive evaluation being challenged when a negative event. A scandal -.
Occurs. As a result, their cost-benet-relation of continued membership is likely to change (see.
Piazza and Jourdan 2018:171). In case a particular scandal gains public attention, people may.
Even decide they do not want to be associated with an organization with a deteriorating reputation.
And, therefore, leave that organization (see, e. G. , O'Reilly and Chatman 1986; Piazza and Jourdan.
2018; Pontikes, Negro, and Rao 2010; Pryor, Reeder, and Monroe 2012). In the present context.
This means that as soon as a scandal—be it an abuse or a nancial scandal—becomes public.
Members experiencing increasing (psychic or mental) costs of membership "resolve" their prob-.
Lem by deciding to exit from the Catholic Church (see Piazza and Jourdan 2018:171). Thus, we.
Hypothesize:
"Scandals in both denominations, the Catholic as well as the Protestant Church, lead to in-.
Creases in the annual exit rate".
. .
CONCLUSION.
Summarizing, our estimations show that the various kinds of exogenous shocks that we dis-.
Tinguish here all have statistically signican't and economically relevant impacts on the decision.
Of individuals to either leave their church or retain their membership. First and most important.
Our preferred estimates show that the recent sexual abuse scandals had a signicantly negative.
Immediate as well as long-term impact, in the sense that, they increased the annual number of.
Exits from the Catholic Church. Sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic Church also raised exit.
Rates in the Protestant Church with a delay.
The exit patterns revealed here suggest that the leading representatives of the Catholic Church.
Have done a rather poor job in dealing with the two scandals. While the bishop of Limburg was.
Demoted from ofce only after a highly emotional public debate, the victims of the various sex-.
Ual abuse scandals are still waiting for a conviction of their abusers. Thus, lack of transparency.
Combined with a poor crisis management has been very costly to the Catholic Church not only in.
Terms of loss of credibility, but also in terms of loss of nancial resources.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2862203]It sure as hell looks like the link [b]YOU[/b] provided, CLEARLY shows PRIESTS sexually abusing GIRLS.
Something MDS1, says priests don't do and NEVER have sexually abused girls.
YOUR link YOU provide says otherwise.
[b]Understanding the Sexual Abuse Crisis in the Catholic Church: Challenges with Prevention Policies[/b]
[URL]https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Age-and-gender-of-children-sexually-abused-by-priests-at-the-time-the-abuse-began_fig3_247523934[/URL]
Something YOU obviously missed your buddy cohort saying. So again, may I suggest you TAKE THE TIME, go-back and re-read said posts from MDS1, before you jump to more silly conclusions.[/QUOTE]Text from the paper you posted here said 81% of sexual victims of Catholic clergy were boys. Presumably the graph, from the same paper, agrees with that. In the general population, about 75% to 80% of victims are girls, based on what I'm reading. Combined with estimates that possibly 30% to 70% of priests are gay, compared to single digit numbers in the general population, this in general supports what the Marquis was getting at.
Please note I said earlier the info "[B]better[/B]" supports the Marquis' case. He was using absolutes when he shouldn't have been. Some of what he wrote if taken literally sounds ridiculous, however I believe he was exaggerating to make a point. If you ignore all that, then yes, you can derive more support from the paper for your argument than the Marquis'.
I'm not taking the time to go back and re-read any of this.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2862188]RIGHT! So why don't you explain to us JUST EXACTLY what MDS1 view was? Please tell us?
I urge to go back and read ALL of MDS1's comment and THEN come back and tell us WHAT EXACTLY WERE HIS VIEWS?
IF YOU are going to jump in mid-stream into the debate, KNOW WHAT DEBATE IS ABOUT!!!![/QUOTE]Not my monkey Spidey. I'm in this thread to convert Democrats to Classical Liberalism, not to discuss the sex lives of the clergy. Like I said, "I'm not getting into this further because I don't think discussion of adults having sex with boys and girls, except to condemn it, is in the best interests of this site. " And that's where this may be going.
"LOL. I provided info that supports your view better than Spidy's. You may not have been able to tell that because the researchgate link is broken now. Spidy however located the paper (Karen J. Terry's) the graph came from and posted on it below. I'm not finding a link to the full paper with the graphs though. One showed a much larger number of boys than girls being abused.
I maintain that all of us, including you, believe sexual abuse of girls and boys by priests and nuns is sick. That's using my definition of "sexual abuse. " I'm not getting into this further because I don't think discussion of adults having sex with boys and girls, except to condemn it, is in the best interests of this site. ".
Why is that?
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2861926]"Age and gender of children sexually abused by priests:
[URL]https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Age-and-gender-of-children-sexually-abused-by-priests-at-the-time-the-abuse-began[/URL]
Regardless of whether it's a boy or a girl, or the sexual orientation of the perpetrator, it's sick. We all agree about that. ".
When I whisper in their ear I want to "RAPE the fuck out of you" theyve replied.
"you cannot rape the willing".
Regardless of whether it's a boy or a girl, or the sexual orientation of the perpetrator, it's sick. We all agree about that. ".
No we can't all agree, that's ASININE!! On steroids.
Have you ever asked girlfriends or wives their sexually fantasies? Many will say to be forcibly raped by 1 or more men.
Now ask 1000000000 straight teen boys their sexual fantasies, how many do you think will say to be raped by a man?[/QUOTE]Not sure what the hell you mean, as the data / charts provided by Tiny 12, shows priest sexually abusing (in all its forms), both GIRLS as well as BOYs.
But I do look forward to [B]Tiny 12[/B], providing a wonderful explanation for you.