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Not to worry much about repercussions. "In a different Asian country" the impregnated girl or her family, or an NGO might have the resources to file a court case. In the Philippines, she won't even have the means for a DNA test. In ten years only one woman has told me she has gone to court over this. The perpetrator was a prominent filipino, and she was earning her legal expenses through the LA Cafe. As for poor relatives being disappointed, they will not travel very far to find you.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1674992]...I don't know Philippine law, but I know legal systems can be capricious, especially in an us insiders versus you outsiders situation. In a different Asian country a friend of mine was accused of paternity. He obtained the blood and DNA tests proving he wasn't the dad. The girl sued him. Did her lawyer caution her against doing so? Nope. Was her case tossed out of court? Nope. Did he win? Yes. Was that the end of it? No. She appealed and more money out his pocket. Did he win the appeal? Yes. Was that the end of it? Certainly not. And off they went to the Supreme Court. For an effin paternity case. My friend never envisioned it going on so long, so far, and so expensively.[/QUOTE]

Skogis tale is the best thing I have read in days on the forums. Please keep us updated with the latest drama. Skogis, have you done a test of your load just to be sure there isn't any swimmers left? This could get ugly otherwise.

[QUOTE=Gorgon;1675610]Skogis tale is the best thing I have read in days on the forums. Please keep us updated with the latest drama. Skogis, have you done a test of your load just to be sure there isn't any swimmers left? This could get ugly otherwise.[/QUOTE]Post surgical motility test is standard procedure, 30 or so days after. It should show no swimmers.

[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1675469]Get retested too, as sometimes the vas will migrate back together and cause unwanted fathering.[/QUOTE]At what rate? In addition to being snipped, the vas are tied off.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1675644]Post surgical motility test is standard procedure, 30 or so days after. It should show no swimmers.[/QUOTE]When I had mine done they just cauterized the ends and there was a (slim) chance that the ends could get connected again (I forget the odds). It was very very difficult to reverse the operation if you needed it, so there was a rigorous process prior to the snip to help you be absolutely certain you wanted the vasectomy.

Now I understand that the modern approach is to cap the ends so that reversal is "easier". It seems it could also be "easier" for the caps to come off too.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1675743]When I had mine done they just cauterized the ends and there was a (slim) chance that the ends could get connected again (I forget the odds). It was very very difficult to reverse the operation if you needed it, so there was a rigorous process prior to the snip to help you be absolutely certain you wanted the vasectomy.

Now I understand that the modern approach is to cap the ends so that reversal is "easier". It seems it could also be "easier" for the caps to come off too.[/QUOTE]Even though I was sterile I had to have a vasectomy a few years ago for other reasons. Also the USA doc told me he was required to inform me of the two procedures you outlined RK. The only difference when I had mine done was that the doc also removed about a 2-3 cm section of the tube before cauterizing the ends; virtually no chance of them ever mending back together on their own.

Did a home test and called in the results to his office. Once after 30 days (and at least after 8-10 ejaculations to clear out any residual sperm to eliminate a false positive reading) and again after 90 days.

Skog,

I like you. Just let it go. Not because of time or money. But you are way above this. Let it go buddy. You never know what is lurking underneath those rocks.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1674953]Just the fact some indignated people of this forum thinks they are not. All in the benefits of the pinays as they are poor and we all feel so sorry for them. Well I am not. On the other hand there are so many other stupid things beeing debated here or there so this will just drown in its all. In my world outing is if I did mention her name and number. I have no agenda whatsoever but pinays from dating sites can not be trusted either, hehe.

I also write this as I know quite a few been in and probably will end in the same situation so i think not the subject are uncalled for. My way of doing it and how i do it can allways be questioned ofcourse. I just write what ever i feel like and thats it. U as a seasoned monger find this not as a problem but we have newbees here so they canknow what to expect. I dont sit onthe answers,far from it,i just tell my experience(s). And i thought maby that was the this forum was all about(maybe i am wrong).. This post can die if it is not called for as many others do.

And yes i have only one daughter I care for in Norway. Work (or in my case business) goes smoothly so I have loads of time on my own. Often spend in the slopes of Norway weekdays(telemark or slalom)sometimes with gf and baby...[/QUOTE]

I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.

I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.

So, what the elders of this site say? On one hand, the girl is very cute, bubbly, and claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever. Any advice will be welcome!

Aibolit

Move on. Why even contemplate the risk when there are so many others available?

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950] SNIP birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. SNIP claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that[b] I don't want to take any risk whatsoever[/b].[/QUOTE]There's no photo on the birth certificate, so who's to say that it's hers and not her sister's, cousin's or one she found in the trash? Block her and forget her.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950]I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely young Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.

I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. [b]She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.[/b] {S N I P}[/QUOTE]It is possible for anyone to obtain a birth certificate (one can even apply by email), of any other person in PI, simply by knowing the personal details of that person, birth details and parent's identities.

I know of case where a person was taking details from cemetery graves, finding additional details from relatives, getting birth certificates and then creating false identities (to commit fraud).

NSO is the National Statistics Office. I am sure that details will be on their website.

Ikksman.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950]...NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.[/QUOTE]They have anti-counterfeiting techniques but are very, very basic and far too easy to fabricate.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950]I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely young Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.

I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.

So, what the elders of this site say? On one hand, the girl is very cute, bubbly, and claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever. Any advice will be welcome!

Aibolit.[/QUOTE]Take a trip to little Quiapou. You can buy fake I'd's copy birth certs, marriage certs. Every legal document you want is there. Want to be a Professer. Go Little Quiapou. And if its that easy and open and avaialble to all. Who would trust a birth cert from a potential. Do a cost benefit analysis. It aint worth it.

[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1675749]Even though I was sterile I had to have a vasectomy a few years ago for other reasons. Also the USA doc told me he was required to inform me of the two procedures you outlined RK. The only difference when I had mine done was that the doc also removed about a 2-3 cm section of the tube before cauterizing the ends; virtually no chance of them ever mending back together on their own.

Did a home test and called in the results to his office. Once after 30 days (and at least after 8-10 ejaculations to clear out any residual sperm to eliminate a false positive reading) and again after 90 days.[/QUOTE]My experience was virtually the same PJ.

I went back after a month and jacked off into a bottle (funny experience. The nurse gave me 2 copies of an old Penthouse magazine before they left me alone to do the deed).

Zero wrigglers. He asked me to return again after 6 months and once again I was clear.

Just to add to the Skog discussion. I have had had 3 different girls accusing me of being a "father" (post vasectomy).

The first one I interrogated about her period dates and concluded that she was probably NOT preggers anyway and sure enough; 4 weeks later she told me she had her period. The other 2 I ignored completely as either they were also false alarms and I knew it didn't concern me anyway because it wasn't me.

I didn't need to get any kicks by teasing them about trying to scam me. Just cutting off all contact was enough retribution for me.

Aibolit.

Revisit it in a year. There are so many 20 yo providers here that look like they are 14 if that is what you are in to so why risk it.