Planning my first FKK trip, seeking advices
Hi,
I am from US and plan to visit Frankfurt-Cologne-Dusseldorf from 4-26 to 5-5, I will drive and expect to visit 1-2 FKK clubs per day. But I haven't figured out which ones I should go, there's a long to do list and I need your help to add or cut some:
Sharks Oase Palace World Mainhattan Oceans Samya Mondial LivingRoom GoldenTime Magnum.
I would be really appreciated if anyone could answer:
1. Which clubs are the best for youngest / prettiest model looking girls?
2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.
3. Which clubs have less upselling?
4. Shall I expect to get LFK / DFK / DATY / BBBJ for the basic 50 euros /30 minutes? Is it generally I) available ii) need negotiation iii) hard to negotiate?
5. If the girl insist the above GFE must come with 100 euros minimum, shall I reject? For 100 euros, can I ask for 60 minutes, or CIM for 30 minutes? Do you usually get much better experience with 100 euros?
6. Do you usually tip? How much?
Thanks again for reading and answering my questions!
Reflecting on a year of visits to FKK land.
So, fellow mongers, for a variety of reasons, this past week was my last visit to Germany for quite a while. It marked my 3 week-long visit in the last year, which encompasses all my time in FKK land. I have some thoughts.
Thanks to all of the great content and advice I got here (especially Kosher, Optimist, Lanthano, among many others), I was pretty broad in my experience. I managed to experience Sharks, Oase, Dietz, Bahama, Mainhatten, and Finca over those visits. (Write ups in the right forums for those who are interested.) While Oase and Sharks got the most attention (and Sharks had the best food, consistently), they were all worthwhile experiences. I'm most wistful about not having more time at Finca -- it is a club here the girls were fun and friendly across the board, which is rarely the case elsewhere. One day was not enough.
I also had a pretty good time at the RLD. One of my visits included a stay right near there (and no car), and a walk, fuck and go home in under and hour for less than 50 E is always a fun event. Though you really do get a leg workout!
I learned that 50 E30 rarely gets the best session at the big clubs; 100 E60 is so much more satisfying for the girls. I learned that DATY is received differently each time, which is part of the charm. That some girls are lousy kissers, and some will make you toes curl in seconds. I learned that optics are great for looking at, but do not at all correlate with service levels. I learned that talking, and listening, to a young Romanian girl can be surprisingly emotional, and lead to really great sessions. I also learned that some girls just want to have fun, and that's great too. I learned that German girls generally are a really lusty bunch, great in the room.
I will never not see a headline about Romania without reading it; I'll always root for them to succeed. I'll root for their Olympic team, their football team, and I'll hope their education system allows their economy to blossom. I know lots of folks are tired of Romanian girls, or aren't wowed by their ethnic features. Cool. But for me. I came to love the Romanian girls, and I'll always treasure the memories. And thanks to KosherKowboy- I'll never hear the term "gypsy" without thinking of red couches and creamy pussies. I'll concede that some of the girls have a grating tone to their voice, but I am not so sure it's a Romanian thing, and it is certainly not a majority. I met so many beautiful Romanian sweethearts, I will always treasure Romania for what it gave me.
I weep for the smoking; most of the girls said they started really young, and if you sit and watch, it tears at you to think of the health problems coming down the line. I remember lovely Sharks Bea, who I missed sessioning with on Friday (bummer, though I got a big hug), telling me she was going through a pack a night without even noticing, just because she was bored. Even Sharks Jennifer, a soccer player recovering from a meniscus tear, with thighs like steel cables, told me she started smoking at 12, wished she could stop because it tears at her lungs on the pitch, but just can't, it's a cultural thing. Still, so sad.
I found I was happier with a rental car. It gives you a lot more freedom to discover, and to change plans on the fly. But I also learned that there is a big difference between a hotel with "parking" and one with "free parking". And while driving in Germany is really easy when you come from the States, as long as you stay to the right. The left lane will kill you. And you will pay a lot for parking if you need to park in the city. And if you get gas in the hinterlands, your USA credit card is often not going to be accepted, so carry that cash! (Lots of places in Germany are not enthused with credit cards the way we in the states are).
One thing I regret was that I never met up with any of you to chat while mongering. I had a couple of good conversations with fellow patrons here and there, but mainly I like to watch the world go around, and there is not much better people watching than at an FKK, especially a big one.
I'll always remember Mainhatten, because even though I never went back, it was my first FKK, and Kelly was wondrous. I'll remember all the girls at Finca, a club of uncompromising friendliness and comfort.
And perhaps most of all I will remember Ro Damina and German Lara at Sharks -- they will be special treasures to me forever.
Thanks to everyone here who gave advice along the way -- you all helped. And thanks to Germany, for having FKKs, the greatest places on earth.
Which FKK club is best? Intro for firsttimers to the Germany FKK Club scene
Great summary by LaBamba below. It should be read by any firsttimer to the Germany FKK Club scene.
Here is another great summary / introduction by Pessimist: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3172-FKK-Mainhattan-Frankfurt&p=2323319&viewfull=1#post2323319[/URL] taken from the Mainhattan thread (you can read his discussions with KK and others in that thread).
In particular I liked his intro:
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2323319]It is good advice to try out as many clubs as possible to figure out what suits you best. It is always a bad idea to listen to someone else's advice and exclusively rely on other men's reports to figure out where to do your mongering. Only you know your mind, heart and cock. You should figure out your most optimal mongering water holes by yourself, and the best way to do this is to sample as many as possible and settle down to your favorite ones.[/QUOTE]If I may add something:
Which club is REALLY the best? In addition to knowing your own priorities and preferences, to really know this you need to go and visit each club multiple times. The selection of girls is more volatile than reports on ISG are able to disclose. Don't judge (or praise) a place to harsh after only one visit. Any firsttimer to a club will find that there is change in lineup and ambience during the day (daytime / evening / night). Each gent must find his favourite time to visit. Obviously, there is also a huge difference in lineup and ambience from the hectic weekends (Friday / Saturday night) to the girls' off days (usually Monday and Tuesday). Some like the buzz and party mood of a weekend, others will prefer the relaxing weekdays.
By example from a club I know fairly well: It will have 40- 50 girls on a Monday, increasing to 60- 80 midweek, and 80- 100 on the weekends. But even if the numbers are basically the same for Friday and Saturday night, the LU is not exactly the same. Typically 20 of the girls will not work both those nights. There are also some girls that never work weekends. If visiting this club during a whole week, you will find that 120- 150 different girls visited the same week. The next week some will be starting a holiday period, while others will come back. Some new girl will be trying out the club for the very first time, while others will leave for another club. During a calendar year possibly 300 girls have visited the club. So, how much is a report reliable from one visit only? Things change.
Another tip: Your local German guy in the club is your best friend. Don't ever forget this. If you know your priorities / preferences, he will suggest good clubs and potential girls for you. If you see someone you like in the club but wonders about performance, your local guy will often know more than most reports on ISG.
But firstly; get your priorities / preferences sorted out. Learn to trust your instincts and to find chemistry with a girl. And finally; trust your own experiences.
