American Politics

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2862208]Text from the paper you posted here said 81% of sexual victims of Catholic clergy were boys. Presumably the graph, from the same paper, agrees with that. In the general population, about 75% to 80% of victims are girls, based on what I'm reading. Combined with estimates that possibly 30% to 70% of priests are gay, compared to single digit numbers in the general population, this in general supports what the Marquis was getting at. [/QUOTE] Go back and re-read where MDS1, states, priests NEVER sexually abuse GIRLS. That is ONE of the key arguments being waged here. Hence why I was trying to correct you (on your previous post) on "what" the discussion was REALLY about.

[b]NOTE[/b]: It seems MDS1, also took issue with you as well...kkkk! Here:[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2861926&viewfull=1#post2861926[/URL]

[b] Back peddling[/b] on the data won't get you anywhere, [b]no matter the spin on the percentages.[/b] The data, charts and articles, CLEARLY shows there are STRAIGHT (as well as GAY) PRIESTS that are sexually abusing GIRLS and well as boys.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2861873] A priest in Florida put it this way: A third are [b]gay[/b], a third are [b]straight[/b] and a third [b]dont know[/b] what the hell they are.[/QUOTE] Again, this priest's candid estimation, is probably spot on, IMHO.

This is all your data from the post/link you give us Tiny 12. OWN IT!

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2862208]Please note I said earlier the info "[b]better[/b]" supports the Marquis' case. He was using absolutes when he shouldn't have been. Some of what he wrote if taken literally sounds ridiculous, however I believe he was exaggerating to make a point. If you ignore all that, then yes, you can derive more [b]support from the paper for your argument[/b] than the Marquis'. [/QUOTE] Yeah, back peddle all you want!

MDS1, had more than enough chances [b]to correct himself[/b] if he was exaggerating. MDS1, (I think) is capable enough to retract, take-back, withdraw or explain said comments if he's feel he's in the wrong. So far I haven't seen any such retraction, assuming of course he feels there's even a need to make one.

So instead of coming at me with your back-peddling spin on the debate, because I was simply [b]"making it clear"[/b] (and believe MDS1 also does question YOUR post, in one of his latest post), perhaps you should have [b]asked MDS1[/b], if he was, [i][b]"exaggerating to make a point", [/b][/i] before you jumped ALL OVER ME and into a debate, you'd very little idea of what was being debated.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2862208]I'm not taking the time to go back and re-read any of this.[/QUOTE] Sure hide your head in the sand. Then be prepared to suffer the consequences, that come with [b]"foot-in-mouth"[/b] disease, if you enter a debate with out all the information.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2862208]Not my monkey Spidey. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I'm sure you've got more important monkeys to spank!

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2862208]I'm in this thread to convert Democrats to Classical Liberalism, not to discuss the sex lives of the clergy. Like I said, "I'm not getting into this further because I don't think discussion of adults having sex with boys and girls, except to condemn it, is in the best interests of this site. " And that's where this may be going.[/QUOTE] If this is you [b]"back peddling"[/b] out of the debate, then farewell and goodbye. I'll see you in the next round of debates.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2862218]
Yeah, I'm sure you've got more important monkeys to spank! [/QUOTE]This is your and the Marquis' monkey Spidy. Your monkey, your circus. It's not of much interest to me.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2862226] This is your and the Marquis' monkey Spidy. Your monkey, your circus. It's not of much interest to me. [/QUOTE]Not sure why you're being so repetitive? Why tell me the same thing in less than two (2) hours? In back-to-back posts?

Here:
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2862208]Not my monkey Spidey.[/QUOTE]Okay, Okay, Tiny 12, I got the message. No need for a 3rd time. As it won't be the charm!

But by all means, you might want to definitely pass along the message to [B]your good Republican buddy[/B], MDS1, who's analogies of [B]"whispering sweet nothings"[/B], in the ears of others, might get your monkey?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2862233]Yeah, I'm sure you've got more important monkeys to spank!

....But by all means, you might want to definitely pass along the message to [B]your good Republican buddy[/B], MDS1, who's analogies of [B]"whispering sweet nothings"[/B], in the ears of others, might get your monkey?[/QUOTE]Spidy, Please stop confusing Polish proverbs with penises. The Marquis and I are heterosexuals. We ain't no stinkin' Log Cabin Republicans.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2862114]Per ETs characterizations of Dirty Joes mayhem and murderous crime wave sweeping every corner of the country 24/7.

[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/senate-warns-increased-crime-capitol-080049392.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/son-nashville-police-chief-sought-234556454.html?fbclid=IwAR2nENEmoKKSfeHFYJH2vhnwHYEKwaQmLWiq0tvLSrUJ2tR4j1cf1iXLYq8[/URL][/QUOTE]So now you and Bill Maher are Campaigning For Repubs on the lie that "Dems legalized Robbery and Murder!" ?

LOL.

The last so-called potus that got shot in Washington was your Party's beloved Teflon Ronnie during Teflon Ronnie's so-called presidency.

I guess Teflon Ronnie was just another soft on crime Repub leading a murderous crimewave of mayhem across the country.

Oh, and again, who was so-called potus on January 6, 2021 when I am sure the Repubs we saw on video scurrying for their lives from Trumpster Tourists invading the Capitol to hang and murder them would gladly have traded that for getting robbed or car jacked?

Another soft on crime Repub, of course. LOL.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2862234]Spidy, Please stop confusing Polish proverbs with penises. [/QUOTE]Tiny 12, Yeah, you and MDS1, might want to check your monkey business, spanking, sayings and / or monkey proverbs, with someone who REALLY cares.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2862234]The Marquis and I are heterosexuals. We ain't no stinkin' Log Cabin Republicans. [/QUOTE]But that so cute you think, you feel the need to CONFIRM your "male" identity/leanings with me, as if I REALLY care.

[b]PS:[/b] Are you MDS1's mouthpiece now and his straight/gay clergymen sexual apologist, for sexually abusing BOYS and GIRLS ? Dude can't speak for himself?

Ask him about the sexual abuse from "hot' nuns? I hear, [b]he wouldn't mind gettin' some [/b] (what ever that means).

You know for some [b]who's still in the conversation[/b], do you even know who the hell's monkey circus it is you're talking about?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2862251]Tiny 12, Yeah, you and MDS1, might want to check your monkey business, spanking, sayings and / or monkey proverbs, with someone who REALLY cares.

But that so cute you think, you feel the need to CONFIRM your "male" identity/leanings with me, as if I REALLY care.

[b]PS:[/b] Are you MDS1's mouthpiece now and his straight/gay clergymen sexual apologist, for sexually abusing BOYS and GIRLS ? Dude can't speak for himself?

Ask him about the sexual abuse from "hot' nuns? I hear, [b]he wouldn't mind gettin' some [/b] (what ever that means).

You know for some [b]who's still in the conversation[/b], do you even know who the hell's monkey circus it is you're talking about?[/QUOTE]

How many times do I have to tell you, I’m tired of talking about what nuns and priests do in their spare time. Ok, I’m going to try to change the topic.

By some measures a 25 year old chimpanzee is more intelligent than an 80 year old human. Do you know who's 80 years old? Joe Biden, that's who!

[URL]https://images.app.goo.gl/G3m932L2YGYfnEP9A[/URL]

Monkey see monkey do.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2862266]How many times do I have to tell you, Im tired of talking about what nuns and priests do in their spare time. Ok, Im going to try to change the topic.

By some measures a 25 year old chimpanzee is more intelligent than an 80 year old human. Do you know who's 80 years old? Joe Biden, that's who!

[URL]https://images.app.goo.gl/G3m932L2YGYfnEP9A[/URL]

Monkey see monkey do.[/QUOTE]And we know that by every measure Biden is a smarter, better informed, better prepared, more lucid, more cognitively capable and competent and a better POTUS than the 77 year old offspring of Orangutans former so-called potus.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2862226]How many times do I have to tell you, Im tired of talking about what nuns and priests do in their spare time. [/QUOTE]Yeah, STOP telling me and [u]try telling it to YOURSELF![/u]

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2862226]Ok, Im going to try to change the topic.

By some measures a 25 year old chimpanzee is more intelligent than an 80 year old human. Do you know who's 80 years old? Joe Biden, that's who!

[URL]https://images.app.goo.gl/G3m932L2YGYfnEP9A[/URL]

Monkey see monkey do. [/QUOTE]

You said it...monkey see, monkey do!

Perhaps your Republican buddy, MDS1, has an interest in [b]monkey comparisons[/b] and other such [b]"low hanging fruit"[/b].

You both should get along [b]"swingingly"[/b] with such primate and primordial conversation.

[b]I'll gracefully bow out[/b] of any such monkey debates, comparisons or business. Does NOT interest me!

Good luck with that debate!

It's widely reported, that I think ALL Repubs are BAD! Not true!

As this week, I found a few good men and women that call themselves Republicans. But curb your enthusiasm folks (and let's not get ahead of ourselves), as there's still a lot of work to do, as some of the bad Republicans are going to be ratcheting up and stepping up, their [b]"thuggin' game"[/b].

[u]Good Republicans (a term I use loosely), having a [i]"come to Jesus moment[/i]:[/u] [LIST]Sidney [b]"Kracken Lady"[/b] Powell and John "Cheese Puff" Chesebro, both pled guilty, thus flipping on Trump and other co-defenders.[/LIST][LIST]On Oct 18th, 19th and 20th, 2023, there were 22 good Republicans, withstood an onslaught of brazen party pressure tactics, bullying and death threats, from Jim Jordan (Trump's nomination for Speaker of the House), Steve Bannon, Sean Hannity and the MAGA Republican fringe.[/LIST]
[b]Note:[/b] This could signal a sea change, for Repubs who want to [i]"do the right thing?"[/i] (ie. like voting for Trump's impeachment, against the MAGA bullies and resume actual work/governing in the House for a change).

[u]Bad Republicans: [/u][LIST]Jim Jordan's bid for the speaker of the house (what a waste breath and time that was).[/LIST][LIST]Rep.Nancy Mace (R-SC) (and others), basically normalizing "death threats" to her fellow Repubs, saying this "it's no big deal...", or "this is a red herring..." and "...this is what to expect", meaning I guess, this is what today's Repub party look like? Just take the [b]"Trump Thuggin' 101 Playbook"[/b] and run with it?[/LIST]
Well, that's it, but could something like this (perhaps a weekly segment), help improve Repub party image? Or are they just a hopeless, clown show (see picture from previous post)?

PS: At the very least, it's me, saying something nice about Repubs for a change. (....kkkk!)

"So now you and Bill Maher are Campaigning For Repubs on the lie that "Dems legalized Robbery and Murder!" ?

LOL.

The last so-called potus that got shot in Washington was your Party's beloved Teflon Ronnie during Teflon Ronnie's so-called presidency.

I guess Teflon Ronnie was just another soft on crime Repub leading a murderous crimewave of mayhem across the country.

Oh, and again, who was so-called potus on January 6, 2021 when I am sure the Repubs we saw on video scurrying for their lives from Trumpster Tourists invading the Capitol to hang and murder them would gladly have traded that for getting robbed or car jacked?

Another soft on crime Repub, of course. LOL. ".

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/morris/survey-voters/2023/10/20/id/1139004/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2862318]"So now you and Bill Maher are Campaigning For Repubs on the lie that "Dems legalized Robbery and Murder!" ?

LOL.

The last so-called potus that got shot in Washington was your Party's beloved Teflon Ronnie during Teflon Ronnie's so-called presidency.

I guess Teflon Ronnie was just another soft on crime Repub leading a murderous crimewave of mayhem across the country.

Oh, and again, who was so-called potus on January 6, 2021 when I am sure the Repubs we saw on video scurrying for their lives from Trumpster Tourists invading the Capitol to hang and murder them would gladly have traded that for getting robbed or car jacked?

Another soft on crime Repub, of course. LOL. ".

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/morris/survey-voters/2023/10/20/id/1139004/[/URL][/QUOTE]From your link:[QUOTE]Why?

Global instability two wars at once stands in such sharp contrast to the absence of war under Trump that he has become, in effect, the peace candidate.[/QUOTE]Please cite the minute of the hour of the day of the week of the month of the year under Commander in Cheat Trump when America was not actively engaged in a ground war on foreign soil.

Please cite the foreign soil on which America is actively engaged in a ground, air or sea war today under Joe Biden.

You want "two wars at once"? In addition to the War in Afghanistan that American soldiers were actively engaged in throughout every minute of Trump's so-called presidency, here you go:

Please cite the minute of the hour of the day of the week of the month of the year under Trump when Russia was not still engaged in the War in Donbas.

Want to go for THREE under Trump, TWO directly involving Americans? Read on:

Please cite the Peace-Keeping act, message, direction or order by Commander in Cheat Trump leading up to his gathered, organized, violent, cop-killing mob of Trump cult Terrorists' attack on the seat of American democracy while he was still so-called potus.

Please cite the moments in 2018 and 2019 when Trump heeded the dire warnings from the experts, stopped himself from defunding and removing the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams in those China labs and refrained from lying about it all through 2020 in order to make absolutely sure his Trump's Pandemic would develope, spread and kill as many Americans as possible.

There are some fairly understandable reasons why some Dems are "down" on Biden in the polls, giving Trump, by default, a minimal lead in some of them. However, I suspect none of them will be "good" for the worst National Security and economic steward in USA history, Donald J. Trump, at crunch time when voters look at their ballot and see his name and Joe Biden's name on it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2862271]And we know that by every measure Biden is a smarter, better informed, better prepared, more lucid, more cognitively capable and competent and a better POTUS than the 77 year old offspring of Orangutans former so-called potus.[/QUOTE]Well it doesn't matter who wins in 2024, politics is going to be more fun to watch than a barrel full of monkeys! Will the leader of the USA and the free world be a senile chimpanzee or a half senile orangutan? Will the orangutan try to steal the election from the chimpanzee? Will the chimps win the House and the Senate too and bankrupt America? Strong possibility.

There's a piece in the Exonomist this week showing the deficit and debt trajectory of the USA versus basket cases like Greece and it's frightening. In terms of deficits, we’re in worse shape than Greece! Things were bad enough during COVID when the big orange orangutan and the chimps were running the country. When you put the chimps totally in charge, with no orangutans around to fight with, there's hell to pay! Chimps like to spend money, even more than orangutans, and spend they will!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2862299]It's widely reported, that I think ALL Repubs are BAD! Not true!

As this week, I found a few good men and women that call themselves Republicans. But curb your enthusiasm folks (and let's not get ahead of ourselves), as there's still a lot of work to do, as some of the bad Republicans are going to be ratcheting up and stepping up, their [b]"thuggin' game"[/b].

[u]Good Republicans (a term I use loosely), having a [i]"come to Jesus moment[/i]:[/u] [LIST]Sidney [b]"Kracken Lady"[/b] Powell and John "Cheese Puff" Chesebro, both pled guilty, thus flipping on Trump and other co-defenders.[/LIST][LIST]On Oct 18th, 19th and 20th, 2023, there were 22 good Republicans, withstood an onslaught of brazen party pressure tactics, bullying and death threats, from Jim Jordan (Trump's nomination for Speaker of the House), Steve Bannon, Sean Hannity and the MAGA Republican fringe.[/LIST]
[b]Note:[/b] This could signal a sea change, for Repubs who want to [i]"do the right thing?"[/i] (ie. like voting for Trump's impeachment, against the MAGA bullies and resume actual work/governing in the House for a change).

[u]Bad Republicans: [/u][LIST]Jim Jordan's bid for the speaker of the house (what a waste breath and time that was).[/LIST][LIST]Rep.Nancy Mace (R-SC) (and others), basically normalizing "death threats" to her fellow Repubs, saying this "it's no big deal...", or "this is a red herring..." and "...this is what to expect", meaning I guess, this is what today's Repub party look like? Just take the [b]"Trump Thuggin' 101 Playbook"[/b] and run with it?[/LIST]
Well, that's it, but could something like this (perhaps a weekly segment), help improve Repub party image? Or are they just a hopeless, clown show (see picture from previous post)?

PS: At the very least, it's me, saying something nice about Repubs for a change. (....kkkk!)[/QUOTE]I believe the Republicans should select a Speaker who didn't vote to unseat Arizona or Pennsylvania electors. House Whip Tom Emmer, who appears right now to be gaining more traction than others, qualifies. If someone like Emmer or McHenry is the nominee, the Chimps, err, sorry, the Democrats should vote for him. It's better than having no one, or a bomb thrower like Jordan as Speaker.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2862367]I believe the Republicans should select a Speaker who didn't vote to unseat Arizona or Pennsylvania electors. House Whip Tom Emmer, who appears right now to be gaining more traction than others, qualifies. If someone like Emmer or McHenry is the nominee, the Chimps, err, sorry, the Democrats should vote for him. It's better than having no one, or a bomb thrower like Jordan as Speaker.[/QUOTE]At one point just last week more than 200 House Republicans voted for an anti-American, America-hating Insurrectionist to be Speaker of the House, 2nd in line for the President of the United States of America.

No Repub can be trusted to be Speaker of the House of Representatives. There aren't even 6 Repubs in the entire House who would rather vote for Hakeem Jefferies to actually get positive things done for America and our allies against authotitarian / dictator rule and Global Terrorist attacks than a Trumpian Cultist who is 100% in favor of overthrowing democracies at home and abroad as is their Trump Cult lord and savior leader.

Yes, it would actually be better for America to have no Speaker of the House if it is going to be a Repub and let Joe Biden make all House decisions by Executive Order along with the Senate Dems backing it up and let it sit in the blithering Repub-controlled SCOTUS for a ruling on it while America is at least not driven directly to total economic and National Security destruction with Repubs controlling anything, much less the House of Representatives.

Besides, so what if some relatively "normal" seeming Repub is put in place as Speaker of the House thanks to a few Dem votes? Then what? Within 10 minutes either Matt Getzakidpregnant, Marjorie Taylor Greenjewishlazerbeams or some other Repub Loon will stand up, challenge it and throw him out unless he does commit himself to the singular Trump Cult mission of destroying America and glorifying, emboldening and empowering anti-America authoritarian dictatorships around the world.