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[QUOTE=Nypher;2819658]I have to advise against this.
Do not negotiate anything on Tinder or you can easily be banded if you get reported too many times. Girls will report you if they perceive you as an asshole.
Keep everything clean on Tinder, then take the conversation off to Instagram or Whatsapp and negotiate there. Most girls have their Instagram handle in their profile anyway so just talk to them over there. You don't want to be that guy getting banded and having to end up making a new Facebook or getting a new number just to use Tinder again.[/QUOTE]Correction, I did discuss details on WhatApp. Just used Tinder to greet and get the WhatsApp number. You are absolutely correct, as I wasn't clear enough. Thanks for correcting my misinformation.
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[QUOTE=ForroMambo;2819955]Hello,
My native language is Spanish, sorry for my shitty English.
I had been in CTG in August 2019 and it was quite well, most of the nights I was in Dolce and Space, I was with 8 beautiful Colombians and 8 Venezuelans in 21 days and I only repeated several days with a Venezuelan who was crazy hot. All the girls between 200 K-300 K ST, it was a good holidays.
So after the pandemic I repeated in August 2022 and things got much worse.
The girls at the Dolce were asking $100ST and $250 LT (they work in $). The first night when I started talking to the girls and they asked me for 400-500 K for ST, I said: are you crazy? But no, groups of 10-12 guys from USA came in and took all the girls, so they force us to go into the same game. I like the top 7-9 girls for a 5-6 I don't go to Colombia, and in the end I had to pay between 350-400 k (and bargaining).
But worst of all, the vagabonds have become more aggressive, they chase you all over the city and it's very uncomfortable. One night that I closed the Dolce, I was going out with a girl at 3, it was Monday or Tuesday, there were no police, and from the door of the dolce to a taxi on the corner, there were 5 meter, but around 5 boys surrounded me, they pushed me and they asked me to give them the money, I'm 2 m tall and I weigh almost 100 kg so I got off of them and got into the taxi, and even so they kept getting into the taxi asking me for money, for the girl and for the drugs they had given me, What drug? If I don't know you?? The truth is that it was scare. If you are alone, I do not recommend that you close the disco in the center because you could be a target.
Another negative point is that going to the beach is a pain, one day I went to Tierra Bomba with a friend and we agreed about 300 K (I don't remember exactly) to take us by boat round trip and some hammocks on the beach with a small lunch. Everything was going well but when we talked about going back to 'el laguito', they began to say that the hammocks were not included and I don't know what else, and that we had to pay 200 K more, what? That is not what was agreed, we were arguing, until we already discussed calling the police, and they relented, but a nice day at the beach was ruined.
In the end, everyone has become more aggressive and they try to rob you everywhere. Last week I didn't even go to the beach to avoid problems and at night I would retire as late at 2.
So this year, I'm thinking about another destination, as I like Latinas I'm studying Medellin, Sosua or Rio. I expect better luck.[/QUOTE]
Try Rio (you can find my detailed report in the Rio thread), I stayed in Copacabana, and never felt unsafe. It's Ubers every 2 min apart for pennies on the dollar. Pricing is similar to cartagena, but the Rio girls and service are by farrrrrrr greater (BBBJ being STANDARD should tell you everything you need to know about the service and the girls). CTG chicas spoiled and hardened AF now. Sousa is trash quality of chicas. I would go to Rio over and over again, however, the Only downside is the 14 hour travel/flight from NYC is insane, it's literally the only reason CTG still is an option for me- just booked CTG (5 hour non-stop for me) end of July, will report back!
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2820134]Forget Sosua, the same Gringos who are ruining Cartagena destroyed Sosua. It's an escalating cycle, hardened clients, hardened girls, more aggressive vendors and as you experienced even children.[/QUOTE]Agree. The funny thing is 90% of them aren't making $100 k US, but they spend like they're making $1 M LOL.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;2820189]Agree. The funny thing is 90% of them aren't making $100 k US, but they spend like they're making $1 M LOL.[/QUOTE]They save up to get ripped off for a weekend. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;2820189]Agree. The funny thing is 90% of them aren't making $100 k US, but they spend like they're making $1 M LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, they are not brokers, I can assure you, but USA is very close, in the CTG airport I could see flights from Miami every 2 hours, for example, they come for 3-4 days, I understand that they go on another plan, weekend with friends making money fly.
But for me it's my summer Holidats and I usually go 3 weeks, that rate of spending per night makes it more difficult for me. But no problem I work all the year for relax in holiday.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2820182]Try Rio (you can find my detailed report in the Rio thread), I stayed in Copacabana, and never felt unsafe. It's Ubers every 2 min apart for pennies on the dollar. Pricing is similar to cartagena, but the Rio girls and service are by farrrrrrr greater (BBBJ being STANDARD should tell you everything you need to know about the service and the girls). CTG chicas spoiled and hardened AF now. Sousa is trash quality of chicas. I would go to Rio over and over again, however, the Only downside is the 14 hour travel/flight from NYC is insane, it's literally the only reason CTG still is an option for me- just booked CTG (5 hour non-stop for me) end of July, will report back![/QUOTE]Sosua and Medellin have the same problem, buffff.
Then I will try Rio, I have good memories of Northeast Brazil, Natal, Fortaleza, in the past (2008-2013) but now that area is dead.
As you said Brazilian girls make different, they are allways my favorites.
Thanks a lot guys.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2820103]None of those are any better. You can thank those Passport Boys for that. Inflation, Medellin is out of control with Scope, Sosua girls are talking in dollars and overweight walking like pigeons, and Rio is still a little iffy. I would say just avoid any area that the majority of those YouTubers are going in mass.[/QUOTE]I have not been in Cartagena for almost a whole year and I had lived there on and off for over three years. I got reassigned back in the USA To work on the border for awhile but had time to make a few get aways which I found somewhat better than Cartagena, Sosua and Medellin and no weekend millionaires, yet. I had cute Latin's everywhere at super good prices not even 1 hour outside the USA.
I had a supper good time in Tijuana and in Cuba. I would feel really sorry for my USA Brothers to come to either and act the way they have in Sosua or Cartagena. I just returned from the Philippines' and Bangkok also good times in both. If what I hear is true that my Passport guys are not making over 100 K a year I don't expect to see them here, the airfare is high too high for just 4-5 days. My next trip to Cartagena will be soon for baseball business and find new management for my apartment as a Airbnb.
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Revisit soon
Love the Clock tower and the clubs but looking for a different option this time. Recommendations for online and bordellos, if they exist. Staying at a friendly hotel so guests are not a problem. Looking forward to meeting one of you guys for a beer.
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[QUOTE=KcTalent;2820422] I just returned from the Philippines' and Bangkok also good times in both. If what I hear is true that my Passport guys are not making over 100 K a year I don't expect to see them here, the airfare is high too high for just 4-5 days. [/QUOTE]You must have just missed those Passport Bros.
They were over in Bangkok and Pattaya for that Rolling Loud concert that took place around Songkran and was online complaining about everyone throwing water during the holiday and they can't go out because they not trying not to get their Jordans wet. Many were doing the whole Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, etc.
They were making it rain with Bhat in a club in a YouTube video but I couldn't see which club.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fAyPXzEWE[/URL]
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They strike again!
The same behavior that ruined Sosua is popping up more and more in Cartegena. Word is that all this was over a few dollars.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yER3KrQ3VI[/URL]
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Looking for brothels
Gentlemen, Ignore the make it rain fools. The girls have to make a living and the rain can't be everywhere every day. My recent experience, less than a year ago, was 200 to 300 for basics with BBBJ and another 100 or 200 for anal. Truly good looking women. More women than idiots.
I am looking for the brothels, good online sites, and daytime places other than the beach. Thank you all in advance. Happy Memorial Day and happy mongering.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2820754]The same behavior that ruined Sosua is popping up more and more in Cartegena. Word is that all this was over a few dollars.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yER3KrQ3VI[/URL][/QUOTE]Nypher, one time I met a chick off of seeking and we were having sex and she said, "I can tell the police that you raped me". So I stopped with the sex, got dressed and opened the door and threw the woman's money on the floor outside the door. Once she went to get it, I slammed it behind her. There were cameras in the hotel and everyone could see her for what she was really interested in. In separating myself from her, the woman could claim an economic issue, which at worst is for the courts to deal with and not a safety which at worse is one for the police.
And these women are trying to trick the men into making it a safety issue, and these dummies are falling for it. The men are yelling and moving in a threatening manner. That is totally wrong. You stay calm, express your desire for them to leave and it is best to record it. If they do not leave, you can do what I did if there are cameras. But if not, you pack up your stuff and you go down to the lobby and call for security.
Now we have seen security guards take the side of women when there are issues like this. If security says, "Just pay the women", I would say, "These women are trespassing, and your job as a security guard is to make certain people do not trespass. Do I need to let the management / owner know about this?" Now if the women do not leave, the security guard can notify the police, and the women not you are the ones breaking the law, and THEY are the security risk and can be arrested.
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[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2821008]Gentlemen, Ignore the make it rain fools. The girls have to make a living and the rain can't be everywhere every day. My recent experience, less than a year ago, was 200 to 300 for basics with BBBJ and another 100 or 200 for anal.[/QUOTE]But can't you see that you are still making it rain? What do you think paying an EXTRA $23 or $45 for anal is? I am from the school that if a chick does whatever acts then she does whatever acts; not like that Tijuana shit where you got to pay a hooker $10 to take off her clothes. Here in Thailand when I take a chick all night for $30, I can ask her if she likes to fuck ass. If she says yes then it is fair game to fuck her ass included in the $30. She does not say that will be an extra $25.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2820469]You must have just missed those Passport Bros.
They were over in Bangkok and Pattaya for that Rolling Loud concert that took place around Songkran etc.
They were making it rain with Bhat in a club in a YouTube video but I couldn't see which club.][/QUOTE]No wonder these hoes around here in Pattaya talking crazy. The other night I tell a chick my usual $35 (1200 baht) for all night and she is going to tell me $86 (3000 baht). Talking about $35 is for short time. The next day she was back to her senses though and contacted me for that $35 long time I was telling her about. The club in the video is 808. You can compare a screenshot of my video with theirs.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2821029]Now we have seen security guards take the side of women when there are issues like this. If security says, "Just pay the women", I would say, "These women are trespassing, and your job as a security guard is to make certain people do not trespass. Do I need to let the management / owner know about this?" Now if the women do not leave, the security guard can notify the police, and the women not you are the ones breaking the law, and THEY are the security risk and can be arrested.[/QUOTE]You are coming from a sterile first world perspective. I certainly would not hold my breath waiting for things to turn out like that. What the management or owner would know is that YOU brought someone on the premises that is causing trouble. The security guy is not responsible for your guests going haywire, you are.