Kuala Lumpur

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2046661]Been reading up on KL for my Visa runs as well. Can someone compare BC and TC with Ipanema in Singapore and iBar in Pattaya, both talent and club atmosphere? Are the Vietnamese girls here under 25? From what I see in Youtube videos the girls at BC seem mid 30's and higher. [/QUOTE]BC is not nearly as large as Ipanema, so not as many girls. I would place BC somewhere in between Brix and Ipanema as far as class and quality of the FL's are concerned since we are making comparisons to Singapore FL bars. I think BC is closer to Brix on class and closer to Ipanema on FL quality. Bottom line; it's a pretty good pickup bar.

On the age factor, I would say BC girls are on average a little younger than Spasso girls. Notice the switch to a BKK FL bar comparison, ha ha, I would place the majority of BC girls in between 26 & 35 compared to the majority of Spasso girls being between 28 & 40. On class, BC has a little less class than Spasso, but like I said, it's a pretty good pick up joint and kind of classy. They have a big walk around bar with a shark aquarium, which I hope is still there for the shark's sake, and an outdoor patio. They serve food too, in case you get hungry, although I never eat before boom boom. It makes me lethargic.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2046661]
Can't wait to hear about your Yangon trip. I really like Burmese girls. I have one beautiful one in Pattaya who Uncle V met as well.[/QUOTE] I booked my flight to Yangon via the Air Asia sale which ends today btw, but I have plenty of time to book a hotel room. I would like to see rates come down a bit. PS. I appreciate the positive reply and mention of your beautiful Burmese Pattaya girl. I can't wait to rustle up a couple of my own.

[QUOTE=Melman111;2046654]Central Asian country girls are more interested in LT and asking price is 1200 or 1000 (some stunners ask for 1500),

Short term is 500-700 RMB and will be accepted if you live close by to BC..[/QUOTE]This is unbelievable!

1) I have never seen a Central Asian "stunner" in BC. :eek: Only truck drivers with gross faces and big arms, dressed to pretend to be sexy. If you like the type of woman who usually can find no better job in Western Europe than cleaning offices or elderly care, then BC is your place. They found out that in BC they can find people happy to pay 200-300 USD (:eek: Did you understand that 1200-1500 rm is 300+ USD??) and therefore they come in mass. Word circulated.

2) 700 rm for short time?? 150+ USD?? Where do you think you are? Las Vegas? This kind of people really ruined BC.

I am in KL now. BC is not full of girls as it was used to be. Say 50% of capacity. The best looking ones are the Vietnamese. Nearly no more Pinay, regrettably.

I visited the first night and I had a wonderful hit of good luck. An average looking Viet, looking around like lost, shy. She turned out to be 18. She claims to be in KL for the first time, on "holidays". 3 times in BC, I am the first customer (I am not sure how true is all this, but relata refero).

She asked me 1000 for overnight (those overpaying Indians made a big damage to BC). I was going away then she agreed to come for 400. She did not stay overnight, but at 5 am it's ok as I would just sleep anyway.

Not experienced, no BJ ability, just making love. GFE at its best. ZERO English. Google Translate saved our relationship.

She spent the next day writing me "I love you", asking if I am married, etc. I took her out to Changkat for a drink and then to my hotel. Again, about 5 hours together for 400. Expensive, but, with some people around who is happy to pay 1200rm those refrigerators equipped with two legs below, it is a success if we can contain expenses to 400. 300 is difficult, maybe achievable.

Thanks Natty and Black Page.

I guess I will just have to go to BC and see for myself. Reviews are decidedly mixed.

Natty, BBs Burmese girls is really cute. Nice big knockers on her. I should have gone with her my last day in Pattaya last August but mistakenly got entangled with a drunk gogo girl from Sensations that turned out to be kind of a disaster. Luckily I had a few days left in BKK to end the trip on a high note.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2045591]Dam it. The words getting out. Have a great time and please please please stick to the recommended price. Good for you & good for "us".[/QUOTE]Definitely, and thanks to all who reported on here, the KL forum is probably the most helpful guide for a new city.

My first time to Beach Club and the range of girls there was amazing. Asians, Russians, Persians, Africans and the competitive nature of the market means the girls all dress well. Paid the cover charge which included a free drink and started with a lap of the bar. Loved it so much I did a second lap before getting a drink. Went there in the mood for a Pinay but after seeing what was on offer I was open to anything. All freelance which introduces an element of risk but offers an opportunity for more fun before making a decision. No problems running your hands all over the tits and ass while talking business.

Chatted to a few girls to get an idea of prices and negotiations until one I was interested in, Asian girl with huge breasts, came over. We chatted for a while, felt up that awesome rack as she sat in my lap. She wanted 450ST, no anal or CIM so I passed. Next up was a short, busty Chinese girl called Lin who wanted 350 for anything. Her face wasn't as attractive as the other girls I was considering but nice body and she was just fun. She was a hard no and I left with a tall slim Cambodian.

My first time mongering in KL and it wasn't planned, just had a longer layover than expected so a few stupid mistakes. Hotel wasn't near Beach Club and the driver got lost on the way, took half an hour to get back there. Showered and a mediocre blowjob became some disappointing sex, so I sent the Cambodian away without finishing.

Returned to Beach Club looking for the first girl but couldn't find her. Lin found me and pretended to be upset that I hadn't chosen her earlier. The first time around she was very persistent and kept rubbing her breasts against me and fluttering her eyelashes asking me to leave. Told her that I had come back for her and we left.

Started with a shower, lots of soap before she dropped to her knees. Good rough BJ, nice hard grip on the back of her head. We dried off and as we moved to the bed she lead me by the cock which was a lot more erotic than it sounds. Laid her down with her head over the edge of her bed and fucked her face for a good ten minutes. A few different positions and then removed the condom for some more BBJ. Tarped up again and entered her backdoor. We rested for a while before showering off, another quick BJ and I sent her on the way with 200 tip. I thought I that was paying overs, and seems I was but she earned it, a genuine three hole girl, DFL, hair pulling and some nice pictures.

Definitely a repeat experience, foolishly didn't get her number though. Passing through KL again this week and will definitely look for her at Beach Club.

Just came back from Phuket for 4 nights. Pussy seeing is cheaper then sightseeing.

Illuzion full of beautiful to ugly girls. Asking rate was 1000-2000 and girls are happy to stay till next day eve.

Wow. Wait for the report on Phuket forum.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2043774]I like Viet girls too. I find them to be charming girls and very good in bed. I almost did another one in Jakarta on my last trip at the Alexis Hotel, but I could not tear myself away from the 18 & 19 year old Indo girls. Can you blame me? The most beautiful Viet I ever saw was at Brix in Singapore. Wow, she was gorgeous. And friendly too. Which brings up the question of Vietnam: in your opinion, is the girl scene there worthwhile or is getting them more a pain in the ass? I do like the food.[/QUOTE]

Vietnam is awfully hard for mongering in many ways, and unrewarding since attitudes of hookers are generally awful. Despite spending a total of almost 10 months (over several trips) in Vietnam, I can't recall one experience with a pro there that was actually good (non-awful is about the best you can hope for). I had far better experiences with Vietnamese working girls elsewhere (Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Laos), including several in KL. One of my most unexpected mongering experiences was when a girl at Ace (a low end high turnover venue, mostly for locals) asked me to spend a night with her with no payment asked (I gave her 100 RM in the morning anyway).

If a Viet girl likes you (I'm no oil painting, and don't speak any Vietnamese, but they sometimes do), she'll be nice to you in a very real way. When she doesn't, it's a very formal transaction. This is unlike Thais who try to be nice and make you feel fine even if they're not all that into you, and not to show much if they do like you.

Strangely enough, if you want good Vietnamese hookers, don't go to Vietnam! KL is better. On the other hand, if you care to put in the effort to find a non-hooker Vietnamese GF, it's well worth to visit Vietnam, though it might take you a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2047626]Vietnam is awfully hard for mongering in many ways, and unrewarding since attitudes of hookers are generally awful. Despite spending a total of almost 10 months (over several trips) in Vietnam, I can't recall one experience with a pro there that was actually good (non-awful is about the best you can hope for). I had far better experiences with Vietnamese working girls elsewhere (Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Laos), including several in KL. One of my most unexpected mongering experiences was when a girl at Ace (a low end high turnover venue, mostly for locals) asked me to spend a night with her with no payment asked (I gave her 100 RM in the morning anyway).

If a Viet girl likes you (I'm no oil painting, and don't speak any Vietnamese, but they sometimes do), she'll be nice to you in a very real way. When she doesn't, it's a very formal transaction. This is unlike Thais who try to be nice and make you feel fine even if they're not all that into you, and not to show much if they do like you.

Strangely enough, if you want good Vietnamese hookers, don't go to Vietnam! KL is better. On the other hand, if you care to put in the effort to find a non-hooker Vietnamese GF, it's well worth to visit Vietnam, though it might take you a few weeks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2043809]Vietnam is lovely in every way. Food, culture, people, girls, nature. But it is just a real chore to monger there. The scene is so closed (at last it seemed so last time I was there in 2015) and I think you'd really have to take the time and work the internet dating scene and disco clubs to find a good girl. One of these trips I will try to spend a few weeks in that lovely country and put forth the required time and effort. But on a short visa run I feel that there is a good chance of having to settle for sub par girls.
[/QUOTE]I think you guys make some excellent points. I might go to Vietnam one day just for the travel experience. Girls will not be the main reason for going, but you know, after dinner I'll wander around, check out the sites, and you never know who you might bump into. Thanks for your insights.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2047626]
If a Viet girl likes you (I'm no oil painting, and don't speak any Vietnamese, but they sometimes do), she'll be nice to you in a very real way. When she doesn't, it's a very formal transaction.[/QUOTE]I cannot agree more!
I have just spent 4 days in KL. This is my brief summary.

CHANGKAT

Visited 3 times. Confirmed my impression of last years. Since the big groups of Pinays are gone (I miss them so much), this place is advisable only if I have long time to spend in KL and therefore I can go, check slowly, without the pressure of having only 2-3 nights and no time to fail.
Most ladies are older and more expensive. Some pretty locals at Zion, but again, I would spend 3 hours dancing and paying drinks to a local only if I have many nights to spend here. If I have few nights and I have to maximise my odds to get decently laid, I go to BC or to a spa if BC does not offer anything I like.

BEACH CLUB

Not full, but good this time! Many very nice looking Viet sexy girls here! BUT:

1) Most girls are very hardcore workers, those who spent several weeks here already and got hardened. I would not expect much GFE, just good pro service and for a high fee.

2) Prices increased a lot in the last years! Now all Viet girls ask 500 for 1 hour, 800-1000 for overnight! this is unbelievable, but there is a lot of people who pays that amount without an eye blink and girls just take advantage of the market. I could bargain down to 400 for 1 hour with some decent looking girls, and 300 for 1 hour but only with an old lady (who I did not take). I decided to not pay 500 for the young pretty dolls, even if I was tempted by those long thin legs on top of high heels and pretty Viet faces (I am sure I would have had just a standard professional experience, even if she was really sexy and pretty).

VIET GIRLFRIEND, YES FROM BC

So this is what happened to me this time.

First night in BC, as soon as I enter I spot a young Viet girl looking shy and lost. Clearly not one of the sharks. Also her look is not slutty or flashing. Just a simple dress. She smiles and speaks no English at all. Google Translate changed the life of us travellers!
Other older viet girls come around (the true sharks) and tell her what to say. They tell me to take her with me. She requests 1000 for overnight, like if it was nothing. I politely decline but I insist to pay her a drink. She smiles and keep my arm. I feel I met someone unique, and therefore I insist.

In short, finally she comes with me for 400. She is 18 (so she says), 3 days in KL only, she says I am the first "guest". She does not know how to "service" a man, but she's genuinely into regular sex without any professional touch. I feel like I found a student at school who wants to try the life of adults. I propose her to stay to sleep after first round, but she asks me 700. I am puzzled and I send her away.

Now what? What is special in this girl? For my first time in KL, I wifed a girl up for my whole stay! I chatted a lot with her on wechat, and she kept on telling me "I love you", "please meet me again", etc. I have reasons to believe she's not cheating with me (I cannot elaborate further).

Second night, I meet her with her huge family (aunty, cousin, nieces, kids, European husband of a cousin, etc), we say bye and I take her out to Changkat for drinking. She says she went to KL with family for holidays for 10 days, she went to BC alone "because she read on Internet", and that she requested 1000 because for me "it's a small amount", she needs money, and because other older ladies in BC told her to ask me 1000, but she has no idea of what is a right price.
After our time in pubs of Changkat, we move to my hotel. We don't talk about money, but in the morning I give her 400, unrequested.

Third night, I decline her pressing requests to go out with me. I go back to BC, but I refust to pay 500 to any of those dolls. At 3am, I go to Hotel Soleil and I am VERY satisfied (I love young indonesians).

Fourth night, she insists so much that she wants to stay with me, that finally I tell her "if you love me, why I should give you money?? If you want, come to my hotel, but I have no money to give you because I finished it". In 30 minutes, she is at the lobby without make up and with her very innocent teen face with acne.

My last night in KL was my best night of all. True love making, and she did not want to let me sleep. Always kissing and touching.
I paid her taxi in the morning, even if she did not ask me that.

She's a really good girl. I miss her.

Now, don't go to BC expecting to find a girl like that. I went to BC countless times in almost 10 years, and this is the first time I spend 3 nights over 4 with just one. It's a "rare event".

Another gorgeous Cambodian with fake tits from Beach Club, another terrible attitude in bed. Not making that mistake again.

[QUOTE=Sterlo;2048482]Another gorgeous Cambodian with fake tits from Beach Club, another terrible attitude in bed. Not making that mistake again.[/QUOTE]The easiest error to make in BC is to fall victim of hardcore workers, who perfectioned the money-making machine by cumulating months if not years of experience with horny men happy to spend.

I did the same mistake a few times, so I have little to lecture on this, if not a generic "be wise".

Please also consider that a ST in a spa costs about 200 rm for 1 hour (228 at Soleil). Ok, the room is not the same, but that's better than donating 500 to a shark who learned how to hunt small fishes.

Went to Beach Club yesterday night around 10 PM. To my surprise, all non-local girls were not allowed entry until about 12 AM. It seems there are some new rules in place.

As a result, the ratio for men to women were very high.

Some Persian / ex-CCCP girls strolled in after 12, but again there was a commotion around 12.45 where they started running out as cops were coming (though it turned out to be a false alarm).

Thinking of alternate options tonight. Anybody has suggestions other than BC or TC for picking up non-local girls?

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2049209]Went to Beach Club yesterday night around 10 PM. To my surprise, all non-local girls were not allowed entry until about 12 AM. It seems there are some new rules in place.

As a result, the ratio for men to women were very high.

Some Persian / ex-CCCP girls strolled in after 12, but again there was a commotion around 12.45 where they started running out as cops were coming (though it turned out to be a false alarm).

Thinking of alternate options tonight. Anybody has suggestions other than BC or TC for picking up non-local girls?[/QUOTE]Hi,

You can try Arabic club, full name is: Sahaar layali Arabic club. And address is.

Fahrenheit, Jalan Bukit Bintang, Bukit Bintang, 55100 Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

It is mainly designed for Arabic or Muslim audience and many Moroccan and Persian girls are there.

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[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2049209]Went to Beach Club yesterday night around 10 PM. To my surprise, all non-local girls were not allowed entry until about 12 AM. It seems there are some new rules in place.

As a result, the ratio for men to women were very high.

Some Persian / ex-CCCP girls strolled in after 12, but again there was a commotion around 12.45 where they started running out as cops were coming (though it turned out to be a false alarm).

Thinking of alternate options tonight. Anybody has suggestions other than BC or TC for picking up non-local girls?[/QUOTE]Try Changkat. Never mine, gypsy, why not, mangoes or Havana.

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2049209]Went to Beach Club yesterday night around 10 PM. To my surprise, all non-local girls were not allowed entry until about 12 AM. It seems there are some new rules in place.

As a result, the ratio for men to women were very high.

Some Persian / ex-CCCP girls strolled in after 12, but again there was a commotion around 12.45 where they started running out as cops were coming (though it turned out to be a false alarm).

Thinking of alternate options tonight. Anybody has suggestions other than BC or TC for picking up non-local girls?[/QUOTE]Man, BC looks to be a bit of a gamble at the moment.