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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2349008]I'd seen less clubs if I found an agency or indie but I'm curious why there are so many for say London but nothing for Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Ok, here is another theory: The concept of FKK Clubs killed the escort scene. Who wants escorts when there are FKK Clubs in town? It's a Frankfurt thing.

At least this was the case back in late 90's and going forward until very recently. FKK Clubs are so much better. Let's see:

- The girls are all naked when meeting them.
- You meet the girls in person and not from a silly photoshopped picture, and you have all the time in the world to observe before making any decisions (ever heard of checking chemistry?). No bait and switch. It's the real deal.
- You choose between a selection of between 30 and up to 200 girls. The top optics are usually no less than those of an escort.
- You meet in quite luxurious spa-like surroundings.
- The prices for a session was initially half the price of an escort and services like DFK / BBBJ / DATY used to be standard (not extras or not available like with so many overpriced escorts).

My last point is obviously the weakest as things have sadly changed somewhat in the FKK scene over the last few years. Still; it does not need to be. Hint#1: Check out clubs like Finca and Bernd's. Hint#2: Try a 1 HR session (and pay 100 E) at any Frankfurt FKK Club (except maybe Palace and Mainhattan), and those services are still available with the vast majority of girls.

Why anyone wants to see an overpriced escort when in Frankfurt and having a whole world of exclusive opportunities right in front of you at the FKK Clubs is beyond me. Carpe diem.

ps. Escorts go on summer vacation too.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2349640]Ok, here is another theory: The concept of FKK Clubs killed the escort scene. Who wants escorts when there are FKK Clubs in town? It's a Frankfurt thing.[/QUOTE]There's plenty of escort sites around but with all the other options like the FKK's, club's and easily accessible brothels the demand in Germany is not like other countries.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2349640]Ok, here is another theory: The concept of FKK Clubs killed the escort scene. Who wants escorts when there are FKK Clubs in town? It's a Frankfurt thing.

At least this was the case back in late 90's and going forward until very recently. FKK Clubs are so much better. Let's see:

- The girls are all naked when meeting them.
- You meet the girls in person and not from a silly photoshopped picture, and you have all the time in the world to observe before making any decisions (ever heard of checking chemistry?). No bait and switch. It's the real deal.
- You choose between a selection of between 30 and up to 200 girls. The top optics are usually no less than those of an escort.
- You meet in quite luxurious spa-like surroundings.
- The prices for a session was initially half the price of an escort and services like DFK / BBBJ / DATY used to be standard (not extras or not available like with so many overpriced escorts)..[/QUOTE]It is absolutely not the same kind of girls, in the good escort agencies the girls have to speak fluently German, also they will not have 10+ clients everyday, if you are a regular customer of the agency.

They will understand your demand and also which kind of guy you are. I can easily meet my type of girl, fresh, natural beauty and not too pro what is more or less impossible in the FKK since 2017. After several meeting with the same girl she will give you her phone number and you will meet her without paying the agency fees, and the sex will be nothing comparable as the session in a FKK when you hear what is happening in the next room.

My best Romanians: EMA Prestige Neunkirchen, Madi World, my LR Eve and good surprise, Isabella, Katalina, were or are on my best Russian escorts level. Exceptional start with wow Romanian at Oase on April, but off since Orthodox Easter.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2349640]Why anyone wants to see an overpriced escort when in Frankfurt and having a whole world of exclusive opportunities right in front of you at the FKK Clubs is beyond me. Carpe diem.[/QUOTE]Some would prefer discretion. Does not have to be a celebrity per se. But If someone were married and worked at say a Siemens or Merck managing 1000 employees, I cannot imagine he would want to be at a FKK. Chances are he does not know the faces of everybody that works under him, but they will for sure know his face. Peoples careers can be flushed down the drain with a distasteful tweet nowadays.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2349972]It is absolutely not the same kind of girls, in the good escort agencies the girls have to speak fluently German, also they will not have 10+ clients everyday, if you are a regular customer of the agency.

They will understand your demand and also which kind of guy you are. I can easily meet my type of girl, fresh, natural beauty and not too pro what is more or less impossible in the FKK since 2017. After several meeting with the same girl she will give you her phone number and you will meet her without paying the agency fees, and the sex will be nothing comparable as the session in a FKK when you hear what is happening in the next room.[/QUOTE]Expat any advice on agencies in Germany?

Also what is the longest anyone would plan for a FKK trip?

I have been RTFF'ing in preparation for my upcoming Frankfurt-based FKK tour. It appears that visits to the main FKKs around Frankfurt will involve quite a bit of travel on the state / regional / commuter S-bahn train network (RMV, if my research is correct).

I understand that the various states and their regional / commuter train networks have passes for unlimited travel, and that Deutsche Bahn also has one for their Intercity / Intercity Express (IC / ICE) trains across Germany.

Does the Deutsche Bahn rail pass cover also travel on the regional / commuter S-bahn trains of the Frankfurt / Hesse area on RMV? I was thinking of getting the Deutsche Bahn pass, rather than the state / regional pass for Frankfurt / Hesse, because I do plan to visit other cites (e. G. Cologne), and I might also take the train / Deutsche Bahn express bus to Prague for a later leg of this longer trip.

Assuming that the Deutsche Bahn rail pass does cover the extensive travel on the Frankfurt / Hesse S-bahn trips that I will be taking to the outlying FKKs, would it be good value for the money, or would I be better off buying my tickets individually?

GringoItaliano - Re: DB Rail Pass. I'd recommend renting a car first. If not then hopefully someone familiar with the rail system can advise but I do suggest that you check some schedules and routes to the FKK's that you wish to visit as you will probably have to pay for bus fare / taxi as well. When you add that all up, a car is not much more expensive and you will save a lot of time. My apologies if a car rental is something that's not possible, it's usually the best suggestion.

I met a working girl who is really something out of the ordinary. As I have said before I go looking for gems in the most unusual places. I won't give details publicly at the moment as the details she gave me were personal.

A black girl who made the dangerous trip through the Sahara, Libya, and over the Mediterranean, and is now living in Germany. She is working as a prostitute temporarily as she wants money quickly to pay for a trip to see family in her country of origin. So, even in these days of ever stricter control on prostitution to say nothing of the pervasive establishment of Romanian mores (to generalise) a very different experience can be found.

The girl had a refreshing attitude. It is rare to hear a girl say she does not think she has done enough in a room to have earnt her money. Normally with girls it is more a question of restraining the teaching out for an extra 50 euro.

She was also one of the prettiest black girls I have come across. I extended my initial session and then repeated. Only stopped due to the absence of a Geldautomat.

My hope is that she will resume working as a prostitute when she returns. I have suggested a couple of clubs which might suit her.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2353377]I met a working girl who is really something out of the ordinary. As I have said before I go looking for gems in the most unusual places. I won't give details publicly at the moment as the details she gave me were personal.

A black girl who made the dangerous trip through the Sahara, Libya, and over the Mediterranean, and is now living in Germany. She is working as a prostitute temporarily as she wants money quickly to pay for a trip to see family in her country of origin. So, even in these days of ever stricter control on prostitution to say nothing of the pervasive establishment of Romanian mores (to generalise) a very different experience can be found.

The girl had a refreshing attitude. It is rare to hear a girl say she does not think she has done enough in a room to have earnt her money. Normally with girls it is more a question of restraining the teaching out for an extra 50 euro.

She was also one of the prettiest black girls I have come across. I extended my initial session and then repeated. Only stopped due to the absence of a Geldautomat.

My hope is that she will resume working as a prostitute when she returns. I have suggested a couple of clubs which might suit her.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing. W / o knowing any specifics, I would say that it is possible her current behavior and attitude and service levels are influenced by her recent difficult past, as you put it. Expectations could be ratcheted up higher after she gets used to a higher level of income. This is just a guess and I hope she stays the same for you though.

Romanian girls from tough backgrounds and modest income levels should also be providing good service for normal prices in the initial days of their new jobs but they seem to be corrupted by other Romi girls even prior to embarking on their new journies.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2353079]/ commuter S-bahn trains of the Frankfurt / Hesse area on RMV? I was thinking of getting the Deutsche Bahn pass, rather than the state / regional pass for Frankfurt / Hesse, because I do plan to visit other cites (e. G. Cologne), and I might also take the train / Deutsche Bahn express bus to Prague for a later leg of this longer trip.

Assuming that the Deutsche Bahn rail pass does cover the extensive travel on the Frankfurt / Hesse S-bahn trips that I will be taking to the outlying FKKs, would it be good value for the money, or would I be better off buying my tickets individually?[/QUOTE]This is all based on my experience so it could be I rode a train or two illegally, but. Here's what I remember researching.
If you're going to spend most of your time in Germany they make a 1 country pass. Pretty darn cheap and it covers S bahn. The multi country pass costs real dollars and if you're going to Prague later, maybe it's just as cheap to buy a separate ticket to and back? Eurail is meant for people doing a lot of travel, not just 1 country and done. The Germany ONLY ticket allows you to take a FREE bus from Munich to Prague and some other cities (but not the train). Weird, I know. But we are talking 250 to 300 euros for about a week to 10 days. Still it's all done and in your pocket. You can buy 7 days (separate) or 7 consecutive. Depends on your travel. Short train trips, 2nd class saves you money as well.

Here's the most important bottom line, if you're staying at a nice hotel, they will sell you day tickets to local transport that generally will get you multiple S, you, bus etc. Cheap hotels are unlikely to have a few of these in the drawer ready to offer to hotel guests. Then you have to go to the main train station and figure it all out.

If you are coming back late at night from a FKK and don't want to bother having change to pay in an automat, and figure out if you're ZONE 1, ZONE 2, etc and don't understand German, splurge and get a multiday, country pass?! If you are talking a couple of ubers, then think about the fact that one up-sell for DFK, is probably the same price as all your nights of cabs. For me the ease of asking the front desk to cal me a taxi to the train station was worth the extra euros.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2353079]I have been RTFF'ing in preparation for my upcoming Frankfurt-based FKK tour. It appears that visits to the main FKKs around Frankfurt will involve quite a bit of travel on the state / regional / commuter S-bahn train network (RMV, if my research is correct).

I understand that the various states and their regional / commuter train networks have passes for unlimited travel, and that Deutsche Bahn also has one for their Intercity / Intercity Express (IC / ICE) trains across Germany.

Does the Deutsche Bahn rail pass cover also travel on the regional / commuter S-bahn trains of the Frankfurt / Hesse area on RMV? I was thinking of getting the Deutsche Bahn pass, rather than the state / regional pass for Frankfurt / Hesse, because I do plan to visit other cites (e. G. Cologne), and I might also take the train / Deutsche Bahn express bus to Prague for a later leg of this longer trip.

Assuming that the Deutsche Bahn rail pass does cover the extensive travel on the Frankfurt / Hesse S-bahn trips that I will be taking to the outlying FKKs, would it be good value for the money, or would I be better off buying my tickets individually?[/QUOTE]I may be wrong but most of the clubs are only half hour from Frankfurt. That's a 60 euro Uber or Cab at the most.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2353877]I may be wrong but most of the clubs are only half hour from Frankfurt. That's a 60 euro Uber or Cab at the most.[/QUOTE]Rent a car. If you are going to hop between clubs, car rental is cheaper for commuting and is convenient.

If you will spend multiple days at one club take a bus or train from the airport to get near to the club and rent a hotel nearby.

Thank you to those of you that responded to my earlier inquiry regarding transportation for a Frankfurt-based FKK tour.

Another factor that I have been considering, as I continue to RTFF in preparation for my trip, is the wide range of nationalities among the FKK girls. I have seen many discussions of the degree to which some FKK girls may prefer certain nationalities, such as Asians or Turks, as their clients. Perhaps I missed it or I have not come across it in my RTFF thus far, but I have not seen as much discussion of which nationalities among the FKK girls the clients may prefer.

I was wondering if FKK vets / regulars have noticed any significant differences in the performances and other behaviors of the various nationalities among the girls in the clubs. In other words, in your experience, are there any nationalities that are more or less likely to give good service, or to engage in sharky / aggressive behavior, upselling, or scams?

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2358933]Thank you to those of you that responded to my earlier inquiry regarding transportation for a Frankfurt-based FKK tour.

Another factor that I have been considering, as I continue to RTFF in preparation for my trip, is the wide range of nationalities among the FKK girls. I have seen many discussions of the degree to which some FKK girls may prefer certain nationalities, such as Asians or Turks, as their clients. Perhaps I missed it or I have not come across it in my RTFF thus far, but I have not seen as much discussion of which nationalities among the FKK girls the clients may prefer.

I was wondering if FKK vets / regulars have noticed any significant differences in the performances and other behaviors of the various nationalities among the girls in the clubs. In other words, in your experience, are there any nationalities that are more or less likely to give good service, or to engage in sharky / aggressive behavior, upselling, or scams?[/QUOTE]Hi,

I will give my views which you can safely disregard without injuring my feelings.

1. It is very difficult to generalize by nationality when it comes to sexual attraction, optics, service level, sharkiness, other behavioral traits relevant for this discussion.

2. In such matters, the only sensory and computing inputs that matter are your own eyes, ears and brain. What you read in these pages is of mild entertainment interest. Just make your own decisions based on what you see and hear from the girls.

3. A huge majority of girls are Romanian. Especially in the big clubs. It is Tough to avoid them completely, nor is it necessary nor wise to avoid them solely due to nationality.