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[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2358933]Thank you to those of you that responded to my earlier inquiry regarding transportation for a Frankfurt-based FKK tour.

Another factor that I have been considering, as I continue to RTFF in preparation for my trip, is the wide range of nationalities among the FKK girls. I have seen many discussions of the degree to which some FKK girls may prefer certain nationalities, such as Asians or Turks, as their clients. Perhaps I missed it or I have not come across it in my RTFF thus far, but I have not seen as much discussion of which nationalities among the FKK girls the clients may prefer.

I was wondering if FKK vets / regulars have noticed any significant differences in the performances and other behaviors of the various nationalities among the girls in the clubs. In other words, in your experience, are there any nationalities that are more or less likely to give good service, or to engage in sharky / aggressive behavior, upselling, or scams?[/QUOTE]If you don't like Romanian girls, don't go to Oase, nor World. Few Germans at Sharks and Palace would be the best for non Romanians. FKK land, even at high level Globe or very expensive Aphrodisia Zurich city, 280 for 30 mn, is mostly Romania, and some are great GF in bed for me, more interesting in bed and for reactions than German girls for my tastes.

There is a very limited range of nationalities since the authorities started enforcing immigration rules. Basically all FKK workers are likely to be citizens of the EU (or on their way to getting citizenship).

Ethnicity is another matter. Some girls were born outside the EU and have secured a right to work, for example, by marrying a citizen or obtaining citizenship. So when you meet a "nigerian", "thai", "turk" and so on, chances are they are German nationals, and may even have been born in Germany.

My report about Sharks from the Sharks thread:

[QUOTE=Shark16;2359344]Rumours are renovations are completed within three weeks from start-up. So around 1st September? It for sure will be completed within start of the auto show (IAA Exhibition) which this year is from 12th till 22nd September. If not, it would be extreme mismanagement.[/QUOTE]Gents who are considering other clubs than Sharks due to renovation work should be aware there are also renovations taking place at World and Palace right now (should also be completed by the end of the month, but let's wait and see).

Personally I do not think gents should worry too much about renovations. If you are a big fan of a club and "must visit" now in August, then don't let renovation work destroy you plans.

Then again, if you are the worrying kind, then maybe it's time to be explorative and try something new? Renovations at Oase and Rom are completed this summer (Oase: Main room and garden furniture. Rom: Expansion of the garden.).

It's August, vacation period, with depleted line-ups as expected. Again, I would not worry to much. I have had great times at both Oase and Sharks within the last few weeks with at least 40- 60 girls in attendance any day of the week. That's more than enough for me. Palace is rumoured to have up to 30- 40 girls at peak times, but their lineup fluctuates a lot more. And; I cannot recommend an August visit to Palace prior to 8 pm. I have no up to date LU intel about Mainhattan and World unfortunelately. If you have, then please share.

In September everything changes. Summer is over. Fall and exhibition period is back. Renovations are hopefully completed. We should then also expect complete line-ups (back to normal).

I've been reading the discussion on Hessen clubs renovation. Let me chime in little bit. The quotes below are from the Sharks thread, but they can apply to any applicable club in general. It makes sense to discuss here.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2357334]
I hope they improve air quality which is always bad (me as a smoker I think the air quality is bad! They got hatches and air circulation on the roof, but I guess nobody cares or they want to save some money (electricity).

And I also hope they put a self service soda pump outside the kitchen area so the customers can pull some soda-drinks themselves, just like in other clubs. The bar counter girls are so slow. The club would help themselves too if they would outsource the 0 Euro soda-drinker customers like me.[/QUOTE]Not only the soda pump outside, they should also add a self-serve coffee machine like the one in GT or the one in Manhattan dining area. I hate to wait in line asking for a cup of cappuccino every time I'm at Sharks or Oase. (I usually like to control the amount of milk I add to my cappuccino.) The coffee machines set up in GT or Manhattan are perfect.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2357470]
They need to think about the food service. Whilst for me the food in Sharks is head and shoulders above most clubs (not Sukura Stuttgart), I arrived at the club today and there was nothing available at all from 3 pm to 5 pm when the fruit was put out. The main bbq took forever and didn't start till gone 5 pm. So 2 hours with no food in a club where entry fee includes food. Not great.

The smoke in the bar is also very heavy. I hope they install a smokers room like at Mainhattan so the rest of us who don't smoke can avoid the ingestion of cancer inducing smoke. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2357973]Since I visit, Sharks is the club which made biggest improvement with veranda for winter, beautiful garden with chalets with AC to enjoy girls in daylight in Summer. At a moment, were new rooms downstairs where massage now. They made new rooms upstairs, so never waited for long to get a free room ...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ortos;2359398]If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.[/QUOTE]While I agree with many of these suggestions, I'm surprised that no one even brought up the possibility of adding a sleeping room which is an integral part of daily mongering if you stay in the club for 8 hours or more. My goodness! No one seems to care about that? I have talked to many mongers who stayed in the club literally the whole freaking day. For those who stay in a club for 8+ hours, having that kind of room to sleep for few hours without any disruption is tremendously recuperating, especially if you want to do more than 3 shots a day. I have not even mentioned the benefit to the international mongers who travel half way around the world just to visit this type of clubs.

The two perfect references of sleeping rooms immediately come to my mind are the ones in Samya and in Oceans. Samya and Oceans sleeping rooms are excellent models for other clubs to imitate. Note that I don't consider the resting room in Oase a sleeping room, but I wouldn't mind a place to rest. You can rest in the Oase room, but you can not really technically sleep there because it's too bright and not noise insulated. Yes, I saw people sleeping there anyway (or at least trying to sleep), but the room ambiance is not designed for sleeping. Having said that, it's still better than nothing. You see. A sleeping room automatically is a resting room but not necessary the other way around. You see the difference there?

Is there a survey or customer suggesting box somewhere in Sharks or in any other club that we can provide some kind of feedback and suggestions of improvement? Is there someone we can bring this up to? I wish GT provides a sleeping room as well. Perhaps, I'm asking too much, but I digress. .

I have been wondering why none of the essen clubs have dedicated sleeping rooms. Even if the Oase room is some hybrid. In nrw you have several clubs with rooms dedicated to sleeping (samya, oceans, sixsense etc). The same has Wellcum in Austria.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2360192]I have been wondering why none of the essen clubs have dedicated sleeping rooms. Even if the Oase room is some hybrid. In nrw you have several clubs with rooms dedicated to sleeping (samya, oceans, sixsense etc). The same has Wellcum in Austria.[/QUOTE]Mainhattan in spa and Palace close to massage have quiet place to sleep. Sakura have relax room not allowed to girls. Andiamo behind inside swimming pool. Not so sure anymore for 6 ens NL when no free rooms.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2360343]Mainhattan in spa and Palace close to massage have quiet place to sleep. Sakura have relax room not allowed to girls. Andiamo behind inside swimming pool. Not so sure anymore for 6 ens NL when no free rooms.[/QUOTE]All your examples are just couches or chairs you can pull all the way back. Not dedicated sleeping rooms as I mentioned.

And 6 sense has one. But it is a little hard to find. I just stumbled upon it randomly. I don't think many people knows about it unless you are a local visiting the club a lot.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2360584]All your examples are just couches or chairs you can pull all the way back. Not dedicated sleeping rooms as I mentioned.

And 6 sense has one. But it is a little hard to find. I just stumbled upon it randomly. I don't think many people knows about it unless you are a local visiting the club a lot.[/QUOTE]At Mainhattan, I have my king size real bed to sleep in spa. No bed like this at Samya nor Oceans nor Wellcum, nor Sakura, nor Oase, nor 6 ens. I know the dark room in front of jacuzzi at 6 ens, I always visit whole place in clubs, to find the best place to stay, last time I was there, maybe because rooms were busy, but girls were on guys in this room.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2360584]All your examples are just couches or chairs you can pull all the way back. Not dedicated sleeping rooms as I mentioned.

And 6 sense has one. But it is a little hard to find. I just stumbled upon it randomly. I don't think many people knows about it unless you are a local visiting the club a lot.[/QUOTE]He's right about Sakura. It's probably actually the best sleep room of all the clubs that you guys mentioned.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2360794]He's right about Sakura. It's probably actually the best sleep room of all the clubs that you guys mentioned.[/QUOTE]Sakura's is a real sleeping room since it is dark and each couch is equipped with a pillow and a quilt.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2360794]He's right about Sakura. It's probably actually the best sleep room of all the clubs that you guys mentioned.[/QUOTE]OK, I've not been to Sakura, but its not in Hessen either, which was my initial point.

I was planning to go Oase, but looks like it's not that great anymore?

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2358933]Thank you to those of you that responded to my earlier inquiry regarding transportation for a Frankfurt-based FKK tour.

Another factor that I have been considering, as I continue to RTFF in preparation for my trip, is the wide range of nationalities among the FKK girls. I have seen many discussions of the degree to which some FKK girls may prefer certain nationalities, such as Asians or Turks, as their clients. Perhaps I missed it or I have not come across it in my RTFF thus far, but I have not seen as much discussion of which nationalities among the FKK girls the clients may prefer.

I was wondering if FKK vets / regulars have noticed any significant differences in the performances and other behaviors of the various nationalities among the girls in the clubs. In other words, in your experience, are there any nationalities that are more or less likely to give good service, or to engage in sharky / aggressive behavior, upselling, or scams?[/QUOTE]I used to try to avoid Romanians. I no longer do. Funny thing is that I've found that some of the best girls I've been with are Romanians.

I still like to find the German girls and the Hungarians and I certainly like the Gacha and Colominiana at Sharks but if you are going to eliminate Romanians then maybe the German FKK scene is not for you? Try Brazil, Montreal, Colombia, or Thailand instead.

Also, in the days when I was avoiding Romanians, how many of the Italian girls were really Romanians that worked in Italy for a time? Probably one of the best two girls I met was an Italian at World back in the day.

Now a days I eliminate girls that won't kiss or give off a vibe that is too sharky or something like this. I'm willing to pay for a service like CIM or go for an hour date etc. I have my list ready of girls I'm looking for in a club upon touchdown. I also have had luck making friends with guys at the clubs and sharing experiences. They will tell you who to see and who to avoid. I also have my favorite clubs to which I have been a few times each in the last few years and I have a pretty good feeling. There are plenty of outstanding Romanian girls. The clubs would be empty without them.

The new guy always hits a road bump or two. Consider this an initiation. Learn a bit through the school of hard knocks. Pretty soon you will have an edge and they will not believe they can take advantage of you.

Kosher Kowboy wrote a report last year. I think it was about Oase or was it Palace? Never say this is your first time. There were some trigger words.

SW: "First time?

Hobbyist: "No. I've been coming here since 89. ".

SW: "It wasn't here in 89. It was built in 1995. ".

Hobbyist: "I meant 98. ".

SW: "You don't look familiar. ".

Hobbyist: "I've had a makeover. What do you think?

I don't no how true this is but if they sense that you just fell of the back of the turn-up truck they will take advantage of you. But that doesn't mean you can haggle with every girl either. I tried this and just pissed a few girls off (see my report on Gina at Sharks). There is a middle ground. I've found it and re-approached Gina at a later date and used a different strategy and it was heaven."

PS - I'm hearing good things about Sakura. Good to sleep and good food? That's all fine and good. How about the pussy? A friend of mine (that is a member of this forum) has invited me to join him there my next trip and I plan to explore. I'm looking forward to it. He likes Gina too so I'm going to explore with a friend which ought to help me avoid being the Gringo Cash Machine (that's what I call myself as a tourist in Brazil).

[QUOTE=Fkknewbie1;2360935]I was planning to go Oase, but looks like it's not that great anymore?[/QUOTE]There are still some great girls at Oase. A few won't like it if you only go for the minimum 50, but I can think of at least 5+ great girls there who also has very good looks. Maybe more if you haven't got any drama in your baggage from the place already. LOL. Last time I was pleasantly surprised by a slim brunette named Leyla. I didn't expect the world in service, but she killed it! It was a slow Monday though. And not many guys not girls around.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2360904]OK, I've not been to Sakura, but its not in Hessen either, which was my initial point.[/QUOTE]Best bed for sleeping for me is in Mainhattan spa.