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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2020871]At Oase, rule is technically no mobile phones in common areas but use is readily allowed everywhere as long as you are discreet (that is, not waving your phone around such that you may be filming or something). I've never had a problem using my phone discreetly anywhere in the club.
Yes, wifi at Mainhattan is fairly useless given how strict they are enforcing the phone rule there. Even in the cafeteria when I was the only person in the cafeteria using my phone flat on the dining table while eating by myself, one of the service staff even forced me to walk with him to my locker to watch me put my phone in my locker.
Sharks has become more strict with phones this year due to some incidents late last year at Sharks that motivated them to be a bit more strict with their phone rules. So, Sharks is almost as strict as Mainhattan with their phone policy.[/QUOTE]Sorry at Oase there is the wifi and they provide you the password, so I always use it everywhere and stay in the restaurant space using my devices on the table and never got any remark.
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[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2020808]
Mongers in Asia literally sleep with the women on the same bed, not only have sex, but also fall asleep with them.
[/QUOTE]No this is not true. Mostly guys, in Thailand for example, are paying hookers for Short Time which could vary between 30 minutes worst case and 2 hours. All night is sometimes available, for the right price. 25 years ago, all night was indeed a normal thing for bar girls, but not for massage parlors.
Long Time or all night is not normal in Europe, simply because it is too expensive and not value for money. That is why so many customers only want 30 minutes with a girl. Pretty obvious. Sure you can have a girl all night. FKK girls have offered to go home with me. You can see their cash-register eyes. LOL The Europe price for all night, is likely to be 5 times higher than in Thailand. For all night price in Europe you have a girl in Asia for the whole week, perhaps. In Africa you might be able to take the girl for the whole month for the same price.
Much more fun if the girl wants to go sleep with you at your Hotel for free. This can happen, but a little bit rare. Some Palace Asian girls used to go sleep at my place (nearby) on occasions because they wanted to work the next day, but was too far to go home and come back again (Wiesbaden). For some reason they preferred not to sleep at the Palace. Don't know exactly why. Perhaps noisy, or because not free, or no more rooms available.
Once you are asleep, it matters little any longer whether a girl is next to you or not. I do understand though the appeal of a naked girl next to you and touching while going to sleep. Some girls like to be touching. Some don't.
I do sleep with a girl, where our mutual preferred time for sex is when just waking up in the morning. If no prospect of that, I would not bother to arrange a girl for the night.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020949]
Long Time or all night is not normal in Europe, simply because it is too expensive and not value for money. [/QUOTE]Depends first of all on your personal value of money and secondly on your (sexuell) fantasy. I still do some long time outcalls with club girls, usually around 12 hours, price range for this with top class girls between 700 and 1000 Euro, the cheaper girls usually don't interest me. Ok you can say for 1 k you can have 20 differend girls but that mean nothing for me, I prefer a 12 hours stay with a young beauty, having a good time, a nice hotel room, have some drinks together and have all the sex I want and with only few limits. And guys the smart girls aren't stupid they treat you in a complete different way.
And guys never forget we talk about P6 ofc you can waste a lot of money in this business but with some experience you get much more from the girls the more you pay. But some guys need the limited fantasy what more can you do with a girl than you can't do in 30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;2020958]Depends first of all on your personal value of money and secondly on your (sexuell) fantasy. I still do some long time outcalls with club girls, usually around 12 hours, price range for this with top class girls between 700 and 1000 Euro, the cheaper girls usually don't interest me. Ok you can say for 1 k you can have 20 differend girls but that mean nothing for me, I prefer a 12 hours stay with a young beauty, having a good time, a nice hotel room, have some drinks together and have all the sex I want and with only few limits. And guys the smart girls aren't stupid they treat you in a complete different way.
And guys never forget we talk about P6 ofc you can waste a lot of money in this business but with some experience you get much more from the girls the more you pay. But some guys need the limited fantasy what more can you do with a girl than you can't do in 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]700 e for 12 hrs not too bad if anal, CIM, swallow etc all included, LOL.
But idk what to do in 12 hrs must be a special gal that I click with so I can have a interesting conversation with blablabla LOL.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;2020974]700 e for 12 hrs not too bad if anal, CIM, swallow etc all included, LOL.
But idk what to do in 12 hrs must be a special gal that I click with so I can have a interesting conversation with blablabla LOL.[/QUOTE]Even much more is included just use your fantasy. LOL.
And you're right chemistry with this girl must fit 100%. And I book only girls at least 30 yy than me, so you don't find many with this click compared with optic and highest (and dirtiest LOL) sex level. I'm out calling club girls since 2011, in total only 8 different girls in six years but with some girls many times and even some short holidays together.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;2020984]Even much more is included just use your fantasy. LOL.
And you're right chemistry with this girl must fit 100%. And I book only girls at least 30 yy than me, so you don't find many with this click compared with optic and highest (and dirtiest LOL) sex level. I'm out calling club girls since 2011, in total only 8 different girls in six years but with some girls many times and even some short holidays together.[/QUOTE]I just want to pay club rate and then get free couch time 😆.
But if I click with a gal I don't want to pay outside want to get freebie 😊.
Perhaps I wud take a girl out as well if I'm a local so that I get to know the girls well enough.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;2020987]I just want to pay club rate and then get free couch time 😆.
But if I click with a gal I don't want to pay outside want to get freebie 😊..[/QUOTE]You see that's an advantage of a young Padawan, Luke and Han get this chances but an old jedi master like Obi Wan no chance. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;2020958]Depends first of all on your personal value of money and secondly on your (sexuell) fantasy. I still do some long time outcalls with club girls, usually around 12 hours, price range for this with top class girls between 700 and 1000 Euro, the cheaper girls usually don't interest me. Ok you can say for 1 k you can have 20 differend girls but that mean nothing for me, I prefer a 12 hours stay with a young beauty, having a good time, a nice hotel room, have some drinks together and have all the sex I want and with only few limits. And guys the smart girls aren't stupid they treat you in a complete different way.
And guys never forget we talk about P6 ofc you can waste a lot of money in this business but with some experience you get much more from the girls the more you pay. But some guys need the limited fantasy what more can you do with a girl than you can't do in 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Just because the average guy is not doing it, does not mean that you or others cannot of course. What ever floats your boat. No one, other than stupid, is going to tell you how to use your money. 30 minutes fuck does not work for me either.
We all may take an all night with the right girl, when price is right. I have had FKK girls with me all night in the past, usually for free, however I did not assume I could get sex for free. Some FKK girls are lonely and like to sleep with someone.
I have taken a girl all night several times recently from a different source much more cost effective than FKK. I help with her monthly bills, and she stays with me a few times with sex included.
It is all a question of what each person decides is good value. I work out the value to me by average cost per sex session, not by total number of hours. Last GF was low value by this method, since the contact hours was high but the number of fucks was very low. Better off at an FKK sometimes. LOL.
Why do it this way? Really because sex is my only significant vice that wastes significant money, so I have to consider it's cost and value.
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[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2020849]I plan six visits to Sharks in April and May. Here is the list of girls I must see if they are available.
- Steffie; 23 yo, Ro, (try to give her sessions every time I visit.).
- Gloriana; 27 yo; half Hu half Ro.
- Anya; 21 yo, Albanian.
- Lena; 25 yo, De...[/QUOTE]Wow! It is a good reference list for a monger to get taste from Sharks. I will visit Sharks in mid-May. Hopefully I could meet all these girls.
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[QUOTE=Amspascha;2020199]I had my first Zurich visit last year on November and founded Ilka was at Club Aphrodisia with her new name.
I had visited Aphro and Globe, but very disappointed in reality. The Club Aphrodisia is with good location and nice decoration but, I find the girls here were so normal level, and most of them not young, maybe I had bad luck lose to see the 10's and 11's. I had seen a "10's girl" with her name mentioned by a member on ISG but she truely even not a 7. I go there 2 times but only had some drink with no session. I think Ilka and another 25 yo Romanian girl are the best but the rest line up is below good German FKK. But Ilka has lost her innocent feeling when I met her when she had just 1 week at Sharks, and with the triple price in Zurich.
GLOBE I had only one visit but also didn't find nothing special. Maybe also not lucky. At least I didn't see Andrea which is a confirmed stunner young princess also have photos with face in the website.
The line up is not big, the food is high quality and the non-stop stripshow I like it so much. Which can see the girls very closely..[/QUOTE]Thanks for your news about Ilka, with classy behavior and manners, and sophisticated look. Happy for her business, even Aphrodisia is not the safer party club, but she can make 280/30 mn or 500/ hour.
More than 10 visits at Globe since June, great enjoyable experiences for me. So happy to find again Isabella. I had 100 € rooms with her at Sharks and World, and now 560 € rooms with her at Globe, but she worth. Also Kate discovered at Sharks, of course, 200 for 2 hours with 2 rounds at Sharks, 420 € rooms at Globe, but her classy behavior with me, really worth. Also top pole dancer Stefi on my first visit, a real GF.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;2020974]700 e for 12 hrs not too bad if anal, CIM, swallow etc all included, LOL.
But idk what to do in 12 hrs must be a special gal that I click with so I can have a interesting conversation with blablabla LOL.[/QUOTE]And if no anal or CIM etc. But just a really nice evening, including sightseeings, diner, with a beautiful girl and just simply sex could be also very nice, it is at least what I do.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2021014]Just because the average guy is not doing it, does not mean that you or others cannot of course. What ever floats your boat. No one, other than stupid, is going to tell you how to use your money. 30 minutes fuck does not work for me either.
We all may take an all night with the right girl, when price is right. I have had FKK girls with me all night in the past, usually for free, however I did not assume I could get sex for free. Some FKK girls are lonely and like to sleep with someone.
I have taken a girl all night several times recently from a different source much more cost effective than FKK. I help with her monthly bills, and she stays with me a few times with sex included.
It is all a question of what each person decides is good value. I work out the value to me by average cost per sex session, not by total number of hours. Last GF was low value by this method, since the contact hours was high but the number of fucks was very low. Better off at an FKK sometimes. LOL.
Why do it this way? Really because sex is my only significant vice that wastes significant money, so I have to consider it's cost and value.[/QUOTE]There is a huge difference between a high level escort visit and a session in a FKK. First, of all she will be fresh and you will be her 15th customer of the day. Second, since her earnings are guaranteed, she will not be so stressed and she will give you her full attention. Sure, it is expensive, but you get what you pay for. FKKs are efficient and that is the only thing good about them.
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Good fun
Sharks is a lot of fun with a lot of girls but my problem is 80% of the LU is not very attractive. A bit of a meat market IMO and I prefer FKK Palace in Frankfurt.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2021312]There is a huge difference between a high level escort visit and a session in a FKK. First, of all she will be fresh and you will be her 15th customer of the day. Second, since her earnings are guaranteed, she will not be so stressed and she will give you her full attention. Sure, it is expensive, but you get what you pay for. FKKs are efficient and that is the only thing good about them.[/QUOTE]Can be true in other countries but not in Germany. I had more than 150 escorts and just can report that many escorts have several customers every day just because many agencies are renting apartments or hotel rooms for meeting the guys. Many of the girls are doing 1 hour sessions (around 250 euros) and the mongers (mostly german) are not willing to book a hotel (around 70 to 120 euros). Also the FKK girls are usually cleaner than the escort.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2021312]There is a huge difference between a high level escort visit and a session in a FKK ... Sure, it is expensive, but you get what you pay for. FKKs are efficient and that is the only thing good about them.[/QUOTE]I remember a woman in the 30's, Polish irigin, I met a couple of years ago in a smaller club close to Frankfurt. She told me being rused to do escort service but wanted to check out if eorking in a club could also fit her idea to work as a prostitute. The session and service was quite good, even excellent and I was happy that evening to meet her. I never saw her any more.
But she told me in our conversation before, that escort is often like gambling for the guy as he never knows who and what to get. Some pictures and a telephone call in advance, the customer pays a nice ampunt of money when she is arriving dressed up. But whether her service fits his expectations. In her own words: ". It's loke a surprise box for the customer. ", especially then he doesn't know her from other meetings before and having a first time contact. Yes, this makes FKK really more efficient. You see what you ger, you pay the minimum fee, but if it doesn't match you don't pull additional options but make a simple fuck and finish the desaster.