Cartagena Reports

Planning my first trip to Cartagena in the next week or so. Living in SFL flights are cheap and quick. I speak enough Spanish to read the ads and local review boards, and I am comfortable I will have no problem finding girls, either pre-booking or going out at night.

I'm less certain about lodging. This whole concept of hotels that don't allow visitors is new to me. I prefer hotels to rentals, and in addition to female companionship I want to stay in a nice place. I'm looking at places in the $80-100/ nt range in Bocagrande. If I go out and bring a girl back to my hotel are they really going to kick her out at the front desk? There are a lot of ads for girls "con sitio privado" in Bocagrande; anyone done incalls in the area? I'm not above renting a cheap hourly place if I meet a girl in town, but I would also like the option of overnights in my place.

I've done a fair amount of research and read a lot on the forum here, but general or specific advice is always welcome.

[QUOTE=TripCyclone;2826219]I rented a guest-friendly airbnb in El Laguito for about a week.

In the middle of the week, Wednesday I think, I wandered around the clocktower area. I didn't see a single working girl. Not sure if it was because it was the middle of the week or maybe I went out too early- I was looking around after dinner maybe 8-9 PM.

Next day I ended up picking up a streetwalker from right outside my place in El Laguito. She told me "ciento" for the price but when it came to pay she clarified "ciento *dolares*" and of course I only have pesos because that's what the cajeros give. Stupid me for not clarifying up front, learn from my mistake please. Ended up paying 400 k pesos damage- yes, overpaid, I know. Overall I saw working girls in El Laguito pretty regularly late at night.

Didn't monger after that as I hit it off with a girl from Tinder. It was really convenient to have a local with knowledge of Cartagena, knowing things like how much cheaper boats to the islands are if you leave from the hospital instead of El Centro. But that is not what this forum is about so I won't expand further.[/QUOTE]Most girls don't arrive at the clocktower until 10 pm.

Girls that walk around El Laguito are beyond recycled. Many of them just finished up with a gringo or two and looking for another in the same area.

Its been covered multiple times that the girls are talking in Dollars and you should assume that they are talking in dollars unless YOU clarify pesos. The chica said "ciento" you should know off the bat that she meant $100 dollars. There should be no confusion that she was talking in pesos as no chica is charging 100 mil pesos for anything in the tourist areas of Cartagena.

Leaving from the hospital (Behind the Hilton) VS Centro is exactly the type of information this forum needs so other won't get taken advantage of.

Same with the price hike of the food of Hollywood beach.

Tinder is a great resource, enjoy your trip.

[QUOTE=JayWonEm;2826544]Planning my first trip to Cartagena in the next week or so. Living in SFL flights are cheap and quick. I speak enough Spanish to read the ads and local review boards, and I am comfortable I will have no problem finding girls, either pre-booking or going out at night.

I'm less certain about lodging. This whole concept of hotels that don't allow visitors is new to me. I prefer hotels to rentals, and in addition to female companionship I want to stay in a nice place. I'm looking at places in the $80-100/ nt range in Bocagrande. If I go out and bring a girl back to my hotel are they really going to kick her out at the front desk? There are a lot of ads for girls "con sitio privado" in Bocagrande; anyone done incalls in the area? I'm not above renting a cheap hourly place if I meet a girl in town, but I would also like the option of overnights in my place.

I've done a fair amount of research and read a lot on the forum here, but general or specific advice is always welcome.[/QUOTE]The general or specific advice for the places $80 -$100 a night is to get a guest friendly AirBB in Centro or Getsemeni then you will have zero problems bringing in girls as opposed to going to Bocagrande and taking the risk. That $80 -$100 your spending per night will have an additional fee for whatever girl you bring in so in the end whatever you believe you are saving will just be spent elsewhere in fees or short time hotels.

Buena Suete.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2826520]However these groups that come in are rude loud and obnoxious and I think they forget the main objective. It's mongering. [/QUOTE]You assume everyone's main objective is the same!

[QUOTE=TheMan31;2826522]"Your regular girl" LMAO![/QUOTE]That tripped me up years ago. I would be using the term regular girl to mean a chick that is not a hooker. But I noticed other people using regular girl to mean a hooker that they see often or on a regular basis. That led me to use the term normal instead of regular. It was the same thing with the term non-pro. I always used it to mean non-prostitute. But there are other guys that use the term to mean the chick does not prostitute often. No idea what their idea of often is or how they would know how often she fucks for money. Go figure. I have never understood these tiers of prostitutes. If she is fucking for money and I am looking for a chick to fuck for money, then that is all the evidence I need. Makes no difference to me whether she is doing it once a month or 10 times a day.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2826572]The general or specific advice for the places $80 -$100 a night is to get a guest friendly AirBB in Centro or Getsemeni then you will have zero problems bringing in girls as opposed to going to Bocagrande and taking the risk. That $80 -$100 your spending per night will have an additional fee for whatever girl you bring in so in the end whatever you believe you are saving will just be spent elsewhere in fees or short time hotels.

Buena Suete.[/QUOTE]I would be OK giving the doorman a $20 to bring a girl in, or paying a house fee for a second guest. It's not (entirely) about the money. I would much rather stay in a luxury hotel with a nice pool on the beach than a BNB in the middle of town with whatever amenities the owner provides. What I don't want is to have a girl kicked out based on a no-visitor policy, which would be embarrassing and inconvenient for both of us, and totally fuck up a good night.

Any experience with girls with incalls? I see a lot of ads for girls in Bocagrande.

Yeah. My regular that I have seen for over 6 years every trip I go. Not sure what's so funny.

I agree with the groups being bad and annoying. This is and isn't a discrete hobby. The majority that do this do travel solo or in a small group of 2-3 guys max. Going with a group of several guys and making all this hoopla does well for no one.

It's discrete in the sense I'm sure none of us here want a YouTube video of us negotiating with chicks or anything. But it's not discrete in the sense you go to well.

Known establishments for this.

I remember the days walking into a place after a work convention in a foreign city, seeing someone you know and just giving a nod. Today that discretion is gone. Instead you have some a hole next to you taking pics and videos. "OMG guys look at all this, look how easy it is. Blah blah".

[QUOTE=Nypher;2822724][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFlBTOKtUNE[/URL]

OK its a 4 hour live stream but the girl and the guy in the video tell their sides to what happen that night. To sum it up, The girl told him $350 for all night and he wanted to pay her $150 at the end of the night. I guess he didn't understand $150 was her hourly rate and even though they did their thing for an hour in the bedroom she was still with him for 6 hours for the overnight rate, not counting she was with him in the club as well for all that time.

If you want to jump straight to the girls side it starts at the 2 hour mark.

This is why with new girls after we are done in the bedroom I pay them and tell them "business is done, but I'm about to order some food, if you want to stay and eat, you can, if you want to play in the pool you can, but business is done. " Most girls just hand out and bullshit with me joking around cause they are bored and don't have anything else going on but if they about that money, they eat then out the door to the next gringo.

If you don't have a history with the girl where she won't charge you for idling, expect to be on her clock. These girls are about that money, especially those Delirium girls.

And what the girl said is what I've been trying to tell others, guy like him is why allot of us black guys are getting a bad reputation in Colombia.

Act fool on your block, not overseas.[/QUOTE]This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? DO NOT SPEND THE NIGHT WITH A PROSTITUTE, PERIOD. DO YOUR BUSINESS, THEN KICK THE HAWKER OUT.

If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman. You won't accomplish it in a week. Treat women with respect and don't assume they all fuck for money or all only care about your dollar, don't expect pussy on the first night, learn their culture, etc. Bottom line, stop trying to domesticate prostitutes, and then you wonder why you got taken advantage of. It's her job to seduce you and empty your pocket, rob you if she can. But a real woman who's curious about dating a foreigner, maybe looking to escape poverty, or learn English, you'd be surprised on what real affection feels like from a non-working girl latin american woman. I can understand many don't have the time for it, but draw a line and stop the delusions with the p4 p girls.

[QUOTE=JayWonEm;2826740]I would be OK giving the doorman a $20 to bring a girl in, [/QUOTE]And if something goes haywire and the doorman's ass is on the line, what will you be willing to give?

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2826775]

... If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman. You won't accomplish it in a week. Treat women with respect and don't assume they all fuck for money or all only care about your dollar, don't expect pussy on the first night, learn their culture, etc. Bottom line, stop trying to domesticate prostitutes, and then you wonder why you got taken advantage of......[/QUOTE]Truth right here! The number of young guys that I run into talking about finding a girlfriend or wife in Colombia and then getting upset when a prepago isn't interested in that is astounding. Similarly seeing guys get upset when the non-pros don't give a shit that they have money, are American, or have tables at the clubs. Guys, they are two totally different groups of women. Stop it with the 'captain save a ho' thinking.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2826775]If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman. I can understand many don't have the time for it, but draw a line and stop the delusions with the p4 p girls.[/QUOTE]Many ISGers think it is a far-fetched fairy tale for a guy to say he goes out on normal dates. I guess these are the ones that have been in the house beating their meat their entire lives.

"This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? Do not spend the night with a prostitute, period. Do your business, then kick the hawker out."

I don't fully agree with this. I have had many a great friendship, some sort of relation with sex workers.

Many have been very kind to me, and were very honest with me. However, you are also right in the fact that the end of the day. They still looking for $$$ and will do what is best for them.

I'll let them spend the night and even go eat and do other things with them if we vibe well, but it's not love. And I tell them up front I will treat them based on how they act. Maybe I have been lucky as I never really had a major issue with any of them. Many more great times than anything bad. But, I certainly ain't trying to turn them into house wives.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2826775]This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? DO NOT SPEND THE NIGHT WITH A PROSTITUTE, PERIOD. DO YOUR BUSINESS, THEN KICK THE HAWKER OUT.

If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman..[/QUOTE]I completely agree here. But here's what a lot of guys don't understand especially the young 30-40 age range.

You come to a more economically challenged country thinking you're a big deal because you have more $$ than them.

But here's the thing. If you weren't consistently dating baddies in your home then your luck won't change when you come to Colombia.

The only difference is you can pay to bang a baddie here in Colombia for much cheaper.

I can't count the amount of times diff groups of guys come back catching feelings for hookers and thinking they're special. It's hilarious.

And I'm not prone to it. My first few trips I fell for their charm and learned how things are.

If one wants a real relationship it's not impossible. But here's the first flag. If you still find yourself using google translate with your "novia" then chances are it's not a real relationship.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2826796]And if something goes haywire and the doorman's ass is on the line, what will you be willing to give?[/QUOTE]The same thing I would give if things go haywire no matter where I am. Whatever it takes. Having said that, I would much rather be in a tourist hotel where I am a paying guest, the hotel doesn't want a disturbance, and there is on site security than in an Airbnb where your only option is to call the cops. Honestly, the best way to avoid that situation is to do your homework when picking girls and pay and leave before there is any drama. You can get ripped off anywhere, and overall if I am in a foreign country as a tourist the safest place to be is in my own hotel room.

I'm not a young dumb kid, I don't do stupid shit, I treat girls well, and I don't haggle (I say no). Of course anything can happen, but I am OK with my risks.

[QUOTE=OldSchool318;2826902]"This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? Do not spend the night with a prostitute, period. Do your business, then kick the hawker out."

I don't fully agree with this. I have had many a great friendship, some sort of relation with sex workers.

Many have been very kind to me, and were very honest with me. However, you are also right in the fact that the end of the day. They still looking for $$$ and will do what is best for them.
I'll let them spend the night and even go eat and do other things with them if we vibe well, but it's not love. And I tell them up front I will treat them based on how they act. Maybe I have been lucky as I never really had a major issue with any of them. Many more great times than anything bad. But, I certainly ain't trying to turn them into house wives.[/QUOTE]I am with you. I have had several good relationships, and still have a few. I am also older and I don't think I am going to be dating any hot 20-somethings any time soon, no matter how much I clean up. When I go down there it is very likely I will want a companion for meals, activities, and as a companion to show me the city. If things go well I will probably do one or more overnights. The idea that I would fuck them and kick them out because that's what somebody else thinks I should do is, well, kind of silly.