Kuala Lumpur

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2057137]You have made some good points. But, I expect he is angry because you are there and he is nowhere. He does tend to pick apart other member's trip reports, but hasn't posted a trip report in recent history, that I can recall. That's probably the root of the problem.[/QUOTE]
For those who don't know this express guy already, a quick search for his history of posts in ISG is helpful to understand the background:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=3059899[/URL]
Long time we can't see reports from real experiences on field or useful hints. Mainly a sequence of comments and even some lame attempts to provoke (he seems to be obsessed with me, but I am not the only one).

Now, I wish to make what I believe is an important point.

I posted my first "field report" from KL maybe 8 or 10 years ago. I know the scene in KL as few other places in the world. I took girls from BC, TC, Changkat bars, ads from CL, massage parlours and spas, agents contacted by phone, agents found on web sites, even WeChat. I even brought a Chinese girl to swinger parties organized by expats in their apartment.

After some point, the most useful contribution one can give to newbies is NOT reporting again the same old story, the same as dozens before, about how many fucks in one night with a girl from BC, but [U]the list of most severe DON'Ts[/U]. Seriously, if I can get a good-willing newbie to avoid some of those old fatal mistakes once landed in KL, I will have given him the most precious help.

To go back to IndieFriend and others before him, the first advice to give to anyone new to KL is to carefully avoid all types of escorts declared as Indian, Pakistan, Iranian, Arab, etc. Etc. DON'T DO THAT.

Why? Because the probability to have an unpleasant experience is highest! AT BEST, one will get an over-paid standard mechanical experience. Most probably, the girl will not match the photo, will not give any GFE (and forget the PSE), will be rushy, etc. How could I make this claim? It has beeen reported countless times already. An "empirical evidence", so to speak.
IndieFriend gave one more proof, if ever needed: as he has experienced, there is also a high risk of scam, besides a sub-standard experience.
Still, dear IndieFriend, you seem not satisfied yet of what you had to bear, because you replied me "Thank you for the lecture, but I do not agree with it. " Ok, feel free to disagree, go on like that, if you like. Try again... :confused:

IndieFriend has been not the first one, he will be not the last one, unfortunately. I appreciated, by the way, his honesty to report a fail (we are always happy to report a success, but reporting a fail requires some more strength).

P.S.
Last but not least, about me "being nowhere" as claimed by that poor soul, just 3 weeks ago I was right in KL, and I even took the time to report some highlights here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?988-Kuala-Lumpur&p=2048409&viewfull=1#post2048409[/URL]
I admit I am a nasty notty boy. To make more envious the one-hand typer, I attach a photo of my dream Viet girl reported above.
Regulars will recognize the sofa of a Club Room at Sheraton Imperial, which I consider my home in KL.

Finally after bad experience with Craigslist, had some good experience at KL in BC last week.

Day 1.

Met 2 Iranian ladies (as told by them) in BC. Both were dressed well and introduced themselves as Sara and Rosa.

Sara is has a more athletic figure whereas Rosa has more curves (but by no means she is fat). They both declined my offer for a drink.

Being in the mood for some good grab, talked to Rosa for a while. She was not pushy, but was adamant at 500 for ST and 1500 for LT.

We agreed at 500ST and headed back to my hotel. To my surprise, she said she would like to drink something. It seems both of these ladies do not drink in public, but in private.

I offered her a choice of Absolut and Glenlivet. She chose vodka.

We chatted around for a while and she really warmed up after a few drinks. But, then she became adamant that I pay her. I told her that I intended to take her initially for LT and sleep through the night for 1000, and she agreed, but she wanted 1000 upfront.

A lot of bad experiences came to my mind in a flash. Girl running out in Costa Rica without even bothering to pick up her underwear, an Egyptian girl going to restroom during an LT in Amsterdam never to come back (I still don't know how she disappeared with that bombastic ass of hers).

But, nevertheless, looking at Rosa's birthday suit and with her red eyes with a couple of vodka down, I told her above stories and said I am going to give money to her then but lock up her clothes in the safe deposit box in the room so that she cannot run away. She said no problem.

Rest of the night was pure bliss and except anal everything was on offer. We had a couple of sessions in the night, and then one in the morning. Showered together and then she went away around 9. 30 AM.

Pretty nice lady with great attitude. Will repeat a little later, but not soon, as I don't like to lock up people's panties in safe deposit boxes.

Day 2 and Day 3 reports of last week to follow!

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2058308]Finally after bad experience with Craigslist, had some good experience at KL in BC last week.

Day 1.

Met 2 Iranian ladies (as told by them) in BC. Both were dressed well and introduced themselves as Sara and Rosa.

Sara is has a more athletic figure whereas Rosa has more curves (but by no means she is fat). They both declined my offer for a drink.

Being in the mood for some good grab, talked to Rosa for a while. She was not pushy, but was adamant at 500 for ST and 1500 for LT.

We agreed at 500ST and headed back to my hotel. To my surprise, she said she would like to drink something. It seems both of these ladies do not drink in public, but in private.

I offered her a choice of Absolut and Glenlivet. She chose vodka.[/QUOTE]Met these Iranian sisters during my previous visit to BC. I took Rosa and she was one hell of a lady, I had a great time too!

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2058308]Finally after bad experience with Craigslist, had some good experience at KL in BC last week.


Rest of the night was pure bliss and except anal everything was on offer. We had a couple of sessions in the night, and then one in the morning. Showered together and then she went away around 9. 30 AM.

Pretty nice lady with great attitude. Will repeat a little later, but not soon, as I don't like to lock up people's panties in safe deposit boxes.

Day 2 and Day 3 reports of last week to follow![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.

I'm happy you had a good time.

I too would like to try and Iranian girl while I am in KL and your report is inspiring.

Can I ask for the approx age of this girl? 20's? 30's? 40's?

A good tip if she asks for money upfront is to take out the agreed fee and put it on the nightstand. Saves having to go to the trouble of locking up their undies. LOL.

Take care and happy hunting! I hope you can find the time to post more info.

Uncle-V.

Yeah I know its in the wrong forum but anybody gives a heads up on hotel in Penang. Somewhere around the mongering centre.

I thought some KL'ers might travel to Penang and have knowledge.

Cheers.

Just to share recently I was befriended by a few sexy ladies claiming to provide escort services via Facebook. Then they started offering their 'services' but requested payment in MOL points. Was a little hesitant but since they are so god damn good looking I went to but the RM 200 MOL Points from the nearest 7-eleven. Upon arriving at the agreed hotel, they claimed the 'Service Attendant' wants to verify whether the MOL points are valid or not. I showed them the Serial number but I hid / covered the PIN numbers. The girl then kept persuading me to reveal the PIN numbers via Facebook Messenger which I refused. She called me via the FB MEssnger apps and spoke to me with a foreign accent. I even managed to talk to the Service Attendant! (Which sounds like an African accent). Immediately the alarm bells rang off in my head and despite many coaxing and persuading for me to reveal at least one of the two MOL point tickets, I refused. They even claimed that they need the physical tickets to claim the money (which I later found out you don't need the physical tickets as the serial number and PIN will suffice for you to claim the RM 100). So in the end I went back home with 2 RM 100 MOL Points tickets. Now I have to find a way to convert them back to cash or just go on a spending spree at 7-eleven! LOL.

Viper Z.

[QUOTE=WombatEd2;2056554]
The one question that keeps popping to mind is that I have no clue as to the basic layout of the city, and where the action districts are. Can anyone recommend a link to a Monger's Map. Or a list of the red zones and their locations?

I'm hoping to find a hotel with easy access to a couple of the best areas for spas, clubs, and free-lancers.
[/QUOTE]There is no red zone in the sense of Tijuana's Zona Norte or Bangkok's Soi Nana. Malaysia is 61% Muslim and activities are not so open.

Probably the best place to stay would be Bukit Bintang area, where many massage parlors have extra services in upstairs rooms, and spas like the one at the Federal Hotel or the Green Elephant offer full services. The Beach Club, not too far away, is noted for freelancers.

At the other end of the spectrum, there's the Ace building (search for "Hotel Richmoore" on YouTube) . More akin to a night at Hotel Eduardo in Tijuana.

There are soapy massages in other locations, and fleabag hotel hooker opportunities at the Petaling Market. Spend some time on YouTube looking at KL videos before you go. Much to learn.

I am newbie in mongering and had just a little time on my last day in KL. As a result, Sky River Spa in Bukit Bintang looked as a good choice for me. Line up was pretty good, 10 Viets, 2 form Indonesia or Thais, don't remember, 2 Chinese and 1 girls from Laos. Girl from Laos was perfect but I asked the papasan for Chinese girls because of the Dragon massage. One of them had a perfect eye contact with me, without blinking once. The second was shy one with her eyes directed towards the floor. I chose shy PRC girl, beginning to mid 20's.

What can I say about the session? Massage was really good. Girls knew what she had to do. I had a pain in my back because of strong A/C's systems everywhere in Asia and she did a miracle for me. Not to mention that she did Dragon part very gently. Only minus was a lack of strength of my little girl. She tried to keep conversation going in her not so good English. But questions were more intended for a boyfriend than for a customer.

Although, she was good-looking, the girl wasn't so enthusiastic about the sex part. Few times she told me that it was too hot for her inside the room, that she feels the pain when I took her pussy and she made grimaces when she did BBBJ. Obviously, some of speed-me-up tactics. Then, I took the control and moved her around to satisfy my wishes. OK, frankly speaking, she did everything that I wanted, but only after my request. After that, probably she was afraid, as she was repeating few times:"No balloon no pu". I put the condom on. After few positions, I finished inside her.

But all hesitations and questions of my little friend had a purpose as I saw at the end. We were speaking for a few minutes. She wanted to persuade me to see her the next day. Mix of light kisses and slaps, begging, promises of this and that. OK, I was interesting for her But, our meeting was on my last night in KL and there wasn't a room for nothing more. She tried once more when we had left the room with her beautiful body in white shirt-dress with red leather purse and shoes in the same color. Perfect combination.

Conclusion: spas in BB are wise choice for guys with limited time and newbies like me. Some of them have a real spa premises. The other (like Sky River Spa) are more like Geylang parlours in Singapore. Everything is safe and clean. Papasan was very customer oriented without being pushy even for a second. Prices were 338 MYR for Chinese girls (no matter Dragon massage or straight sex) and 238 MYR for all other girls. If I had another opportunity I would take the girl from Laos, the real beauty.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2058995]Thanks for the report.

I'm happy you had a good time.

I too would like to try and Iranian girl while I am in KL and your report is inspiring.

Can I ask for the approx age of this girl? 20's? 30's? 40's?

A good tip if she asks for money upfront is to take out the agreed fee and put it on the nightstand. Saves having to go to the trouble of locking up their undies. LOL.

Take care and happy hunting! I hope you can find the time to post more info.

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Hi,

The Iranian girls seemed to be in their late 20's. They said 25-26. I will add on a few years more to that.

So I've been sampling the escorts scene here in KL and have come to the following conclusions:

1. Most online escort sites, with a few exceptions, are bait and switch operations. I'm not talking photoshop brush ups, I'm talking blatantly false advertising. Tread carefully and make sure that the pictures aren't stock photos.

2. All services listed (massage, CIM, DFK, etc.) are NOT usually on offer, only tips can get you a few extras but those too are VERY limited and clock watched.

3. "Local" escorts (CKT and NL with a rare Indian) are priced higher but for no reason other than novelty. Not beauty, nor service or even a better hotel / experience.

4. Its touch and go with some of these agents, they're a precious lot. Dealing with them is like dealing with a teenage girl. They have moods, they are chasing you, literally force you to book, are pushy and then suddenly switch off once they know you're in the bag. Don't always believe their (online) FRs. Call them out and they'll even go as far as naming and shaming you on their sites.

5. Pricing comparison may yield cheaper results when comparing between sites, but. Read #4 above. I've had prices bumped up on me / attempted to be bumped up on more than one occasion.

6. About local escorts: they do (usually) have a little more English than your regular Thai or Viet, but chemistry is still iffy with these girls, some are pretend part-time models and seem to exude an air which does not behove well for a courtesan. I'd rather try my luck at the mall if I want the girlfriend vibe.

7. As usual with all these girls, they'll promise everything up front but try to get you out the door as soon as possible.

My reviews (you can find these girls through the cursory searches):

1. Alexa. Local NL. RM350 . Photo a bit misleading. Though she has an amazing rack, she's very chubby. Unexpected for me. She was very accommodating and had great conversation skills. Covered BJ. I'd say 7/10 overall for GFE and that rack.

2. Joni. Local CKT. RM300 . Photo is very misleading. Though she was the best of the local lot in the sack. OK in conversation but the action made up for any and all discrepancies. Covered BJ and amazing sex. An 8/10 for the action. Though a point deducted for a less than satisfactory rack / misleading photo. WIR? Maybe. She's sweet.

3. Safiya. Local? RM300 . Totally not worth it. WIR? Never.

Lessons learnt:

1. For action and beauty. Stick to imports. They're more bang for buck (pun intended).

2. Use a trusted agent who has delivered before (I believe some have been mentioned previously on this forum).

3. For a better / more standard experience, stick to the known spas.

Overall, a bit disappointing on the escorts scene, unless I'm missing something (or a search term) and there's an amazing underground escort / freelancer scene going on that I'm unaware of.

Thanks for this BP!

I almost fell for it, though it did seem too enthusiastic, even for the more than average punter.

Can't fault the entrepreneurial spirit of the OP's: amazing!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2055151]Only in this KL Thread there is this phenomenon of commercial ads masked by genuine "reports". They create new profiles, have a short history on the order of 5-20 posts, and start posting enthusiast stories about these vibrators, which can be bought there and there. Several users (probably one single person) then start to exchange enthusiast comments about the performance, trying to lure people to go there and buy.

Old story which repeats and repeats.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report. Not heard much about the escort scene in KL, so this is useful. Where did you get in contact with Alexa and Joni?

[QUOTE=PunterDubai;2061527]So I've been sampling the escorts scene here in KL and have come to the following conclusions:

1. Most online escort sites, with a few exceptions, are bait and switch operations. I'm not talking photoshop brush ups, I'm talking blatantly false advertising. Tread carefully and make sure that the pictures aren't stock photos.

2. All services listed (massage, CIM, DFK, etc.) are NOT usually on offer, only tips can get you a few extras but those too are VERY limited and clock watched.

3. "Local" escorts (CKT and NL with a rare Indian) are priced higher but for no reason other than novelty. Not beauty, nor service or even a better hotel / experience.

4. Its touch and go with some of these agents, they're a precious lot. Dealing with them is like dealing with a teenage girl. They have moods, they are chasing you, literally force you to book, are pushy and then suddenly switch off once they know you're in the bag. Don't always believe their (online) FRs. Call them out and they'll even go as far as naming and shaming you on their sites.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jdb82;2062060]Thanks for the report. Not heard much about the escort scene in KL[/QUOTE]:eek: This thread is full of information about "escorts" in KL! Try to read back, and do not stop after the first 5 pages.

I will repeat the basics. You basically have two options that may be categorized under "escorts":

1) Get the service of one of the many agents that will try to offer you girls, when walk around Sultan Ismail or Bukit Bintang. Procedure:
- you ask what girls they have;
- he / she will tell you Thai, Viet, Indonesian, local NL, sometimes Chinese, now unfortunately no Philippine anymore;
- you specify what you want;
- a car will come with a selection of 2-3 girls to choose;
- you go to your hotel with your girl of choice;
- should I assist more?

2) Get the service of one of the many web sites providing girls. Countless. In this case:
- I suggest to NOT choose a girl from the web site and order home delivery, because
(a) all photos have been photoshopped and, even if the photo depicts the real girl, the real girl will look invariably different;
b) the attitude of the girl, once in your room, will be most llikely not GFE, to say the best (what PunterDubai has reported is just one more proof of this; no suprise).
- they usually have a location, in a hotel, in a club, in a spa, whatever; go there on premises and choose (I understand this is NOT what suits to me or most people on a short visit to KL: we have no time to be able to allocate 3 hours to this, to go there, have a drink, choose, do the deed, go back).

[QUOTE=Jdb82;2062060]Thanks for the report. Not heard much about the escort scene in KL, so this is useful. Where did you get in contact with Alexa and Joni?[/QUOTE]Enough said.

I have read the ages and do so regularly! I was referring to 'escorts' that you can order in to your hotel. Similar to Thailand. Thanks for your advice though, and I will sure follow it when I'm in KL at the end of the month.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2062519]:eek: This thread is full of information about "escorts" in KL! Try to read back, and do not stop after the first 5 pages.

I will repeat the basics. You basically have two options that may be categorized under "escorts":

1) Get the service of one of the many agents that will try to offer you girls, when walk around Sultan Ismail or Bukit Bintang. Procedure:
- you ask what girls they have;
- he / she will tell you Thai, Viet, Indonesian, local NL, sometimes Chinese, now unfortunately no Philippine anymore;
- you specify what you want;
- a car will come with a selection of 2-3 girls to choose;
- you go to your hotel with your girl of choice;
- should I assist more?

2) Get the service of one of the many web sites providing girls. Countless. In this case:
- I suggest to NOT choose a girl from the web site and order home delivery, because
(a) all photos have been photoshopped and, even if the photo depicts the real girl, the real girl will look invariably different;
b) the attitude of the girl, once in your room, will be most llikely not GFE, to say the best (what PunterDubai has reported is just one more proof of this; no suprise).
- they usually have a location, in a hotel, in a club, in a spa, whatever; go there on premises and choose (I understand this is NOT what suits to me or most people on a short visit to KL: we have no time to be able to allocate 3 hours to this, to go there, have a drink, choose, do the deed, go back).[/QUOTE]