Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=LoveHole69;1874812]I think Eih tooms not sharing info wouldn't have bothered anyone years ago its just indicative of the boring mongering scene in Bangkok.

At the end of the day almost any hooker can give you good service and people like Eih tooms who post on here and then won't mention the providers information are often just boasting or exaggerating.[/QUOTE]Well, I have mostly staked out a fairly narrow set of criteria for what qualifies as "great" or (would be) "highly recommended" in P4 P service as far as I am concerned; BBFS and / or BBBJ CIM, preferably including swallowing, the former (BBFS) being the far trickier one to score in most P4 P environments. I have simply not encountered a P4P girl who is so skilled at pleasurable "tricks" so as to distract me from the obvious fact that I am feeling a balloon wrapped around my willy instead of her vaginal walls and now I can consider her P4P service to be "great" despite it. And I can't imagine ever meeting such a P4P girl in Thailand of all places. Apparently, others have found those P4P girls in Thailand and many of them. Those are the posters who will give you the names, locations, badge numbers, likely hours on duty and so on of those (in their opinion) highly skilled girls.

Have you read a lot of reports from guys on this board recommending this or that specific P4 P girl, name and badge number included, who have indulged in BBFS with them and would be likely to do so for the next guy, no problem? I haven't. In fact, I don't think I have read ANY reports like that about Thai P4P girls and venues here. And I understand why virtually no one reports such a thing. So those who were "bothered" by the fact that I or anyone else didn't give out specifics on where to find the girls who did that for me (as it is for others apparently) will have to explain a bit more why on earth we should or would.

Now, I recently suggested (Post #13403 in this thread) a new thread devoted to guys listing those kinds of specifics for readers, such as yourself, who are either bothered that we don't give out that information or think we are wasting their time by not providing it. As of this writing it has gotten exactly zero "I agree!" or "+1" replies from any other posters. Including you. Instead, I have only read heartfelt objections or dismissive comments about the mere notion of such a thread existing.

May I ask, LoveHole69, have you read a detailed report here about such-and-such girl at such-and-such club who delivered exactly this or that service in great detail, acted on it by going to that club and found the experience to be anything close to what was reported here?

[QUOTE=LoveHole69;1874812]I think Eih tooms not sharing info wouldn't have bothered anyone years ago its just indicative of the boring mongering scene in Bangkok.

At the end of the day almost any hooker can give you good service and people like Eih tooms who post on here and then won't mention the providers information are often just boasting or exaggerating.
[/QUOTE]If a report does not mention any specific girl that can be found, or way to solve some problem at least, it reduces in value greatly, for me. If it also does not at least refer to a specific venue, then becomes rather general. I don't know if the very non specific adventure reports are true or not and don't really care, since I don't really read the detail of them much, skipping over a lot when I can't see relevance to me.

I am all for being specific, tell us about a good girl and in what ways she was good, where to be found, so others might have a clue if she could be worthwhile, or that information has some value. Describing body and face type can be important too. There is no guarantee girls perform great for everyone, but there is at least the hint of possibilities.

I do write reports that specify particular places and particular girls, even if not all of them are a very specific experience. I would like to see others do so as well. A report needs to have some sort of information, that could be used somehow, or is extremely entertaining, however we don't see so many of the later. Skilled humourists that can use more than the stupid, too easy, satire or sarcasm device are very few, I fear. I miss Nic Frenchy's reports, when he was in a good mood, because he could entertain by seeing events in a funny light. One of a very few actually entertaining posters.

If you are not funny, like me, then provide useful info please, on "where to find women for good sex" (to paraphrase the purpose of the forum), or introduce discussion topics that might provoke a useful response with insight.

I guess ET cannot report on girls, lest we all assume that every one of his girls goes BB. LOL. I don't make the assumption myself, that girls doing BB will do it with everyone. I don't know how many are motivated purely by money. I do know of girls that complain about customers wanting BB, even though I did not raise the topic myself. So I assume that some girls are strongly resisting all attempts, perhaps a minority. I haven't yet started my survey to keep asking for BB. I keep forgetting to do this. LOL I suspect some of my regular girls may be willing, but not all.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1875478]Well, I have mostly staked out a fairly narrow set of criteria for what qualifies as "great" or (would be) "highly recommended" in P4 P service as far as I am concerned; BBFS and / or BBBJ CIM, preferably including swallowing, the former (BBFS) being the far trickier one to score in most P4 P environments. I have simply not encountered a P4P girl who is so skilled at pleasurable "tricks" so as to distract me from the obvious fact that I am feeling a balloon wrapped around my willy instead of her vaginal walls and now I can consider her P4P service to be "great" despite it. And I can't imagine ever meeting such a P4P girl in Thailand of all places. Apparently, others have found those P4P girls in Thailand and many of them. Those are the posters who will give you the names, locations, badge numbers, likely hours on duty and so on of those (in their opinion) highly skilled girls.

Have you read a lot of reports from guys on this board recommending this or that specific P4 P girl, name and badge number included, who have indulged in BBFS with them and would be likely to do so for the next guy, no problem? I haven't. In fact, I don't think I have read ANY reports like that about Thai P4P girls and venues here. And I understand why virtually no one reports such a thing. So those who were "bothered" by the fact that I or anyone else didn't give out specifics on where to find the girls who did that for me (as it is for others apparently) will have to explain a bit more why on earth we should or would.

Now, I recently suggested (Post #13403 in this thread) a new thread devoted to guys listing those kinds of specifics for readers, such as yourself, who are either bothered that we don't give out that information or think we are wasting their time by not providing it. As of this writing it has gotten exactly zero "I agree!" or "+1" replies from any other posters. Including you. Instead, I have only read heartfelt objections or dismissive comments about the mere notion of such a thread existing.

May I ask, LoveHole69, have you read a detailed report here about such-and-such girl at such-and-such club who delivered exactly this or that service in great detail, acted on it by going to that club and found the experience to be anything close to what was reported here?[/QUOTE]Part of the probem EihTooms may be, as I mentioned earlier, you may be interpreting some of the code language used here to mean BBFS when at least some of the guys here are not using it for that. In response to your earlier suggestion, I did go back and read quite a few past posts and did not see anyone chastise you or anyone else for a failure to post information on which girls do BBFS. Maybe there was one or two I missed, but I didn't see any. I did see at least one reporter post something about PSE girls, which you interpreted, quite incorrectly as he later pointed out, as indicating he was referring to BBFS girls. PSE and GFE do not universally refer to BBFS although there are some who think the two terms do.

Having said that I, of course, don't have access to your private mail box, and perhaps some of the requests for information about BBFS were sent to you by PM.

In any event, I don't see the point in continuing to raise the BBFS issue here. Some people want BBFS, others don't, but I'm quite certain very few are interested in seeing it discussed here publicly.

[QUOTE=RalphKramden;1872099]Interesting marketing strategy. Perhaps they are not getting enough buyers for the regular 2600 sideliners and 2000 soapy girls so are trying the VIP class. Personally I think it won't work because the place down the road has a whole group of so-called VIP superstars for 7 K or so.[/QUOTE]That's disappointing, 16 K is what 300+ pounds, for a massage parlor?!

I've been to Bangkok twice and always went to Nataree I think I paid 5 or 6 K. Never went to any other places. I did like the selection of fresh and young girls. Are there any other places recommended for this?

Going next week again.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1875514]In any event, I don't see the point in continuing to raise the BBFS issue here. Some people want BBFS, others don't, but I'm quite certain very few are interested in seeing it discussed here publicly.[/QUOTE]I think you are wrong there. For some guys, BB is vital. Others get very angry about anyone promoting it. We have the whole spectrum of views. It is better to be informed, rather than lack the knowledge of what goes on, I reckon?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1875524]I think you are wrong there. For some guys, BB is vital. Others get very angry about anyone promoting it. We have the whole spectrum of views. It is better to be informed, rather than lack the knowledge of what goes on, I reckon?[/QUOTE]So if I'm wrong, please specify what useful information has been imparted in this thread about BBFS other than that some people may or may not be getting upset about the fact no one is providing identifying information about which girls bareback. Oh, and also that EihTooms likes to bareback.

[QUOTE=JamesPhony;1874709]Help me out guys need good massage and kissing from staff of snow white, candy massage and from cherry massage.[/QUOTE]In my experience most girls are providing pretty good kissing. It would be easier to report the exceptions of those don't and those who were really extra specially good at it. In general it's a normal service here, I think.

I wouldn't bother with girls who are not into kissing at all. It is one of the biggest turn ONS for me, well done, even more than a BJ.

Maybe I have made exceptions in the past and taken exceptionally stunning girls that were providing weak kissing, but would not be often. Last night had a bar girl with exceptional kissing (significantly above average) called Nikki at No. 1 at CH. I enjoyed the session as it got of too such a good start with really soft slurpy DFK even though she had braces. It matters a lot. As she allowed fingers inside, and was into DATY I was already 80% there to being really turned on. Pussy was pretty good, small clit, even if not best possible fit (quite tight enough though).

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1875514]Part of the probem EihTooms may be, as I mentioned earlier, you may be interpreting some of the code language used here to mean BBFS when at least some of the guys here are not using it for that. In response to your earlier suggestion, I did go back and read quite a few past posts and did not see anyone chastise you or anyone else for a failure to post information on which girls do BBFS. Maybe there was one or two I missed, but I didn't see any. I did see at least one reporter post something about PSE girls, which you interpreted, quite incorrectly as he later pointed out, as indicating he was referring to BBFS girls. PSE and GFE do not universally refer to BBFS although there are some who think the two terms do.

Having said that I, of course, don't have access to your private mail box, and perhaps some of the requests for information about BBFS were sent to you by PM.

In any event, I don't see the point in continuing to raise the BBFS issue here. Some people want BBFS, others don't, but I'm quite certain very few are interested in seeing it discussed here publicly.[/QUOTE]No problem, LAGuy5. You might have missed it. So I will just recap a bit of it now, not because it bothered me so much, but only because I don't want the latest word on this being that I am "projecting" what I want to be posted on the forum and that I am only reading into "code" words for what I want to see listed, "misinterpreting' it all or anything like that. Let's call it a "sanity check" on myself. LOL.

Actually, the discussion started with my post #13399, where I just made general comments about "gems. Who exceed all of my expectations" and why some guys do not report good reviews along with detailed contact information for those girls. That was closely followed by my post #13402, where I was extremely specific about what would qualify, for me, as such a gem.

Here it is:

"Add to this the fact that I did indeed get a successful vasectomy many years ago and do indeed have a legitimate, current blood screening test document from Thai Red Cross showing that I tested negative / normal for anything and everything of significance. So if I were to tout a particular hottie here and exactly where to find her on the glowing review that she gave me a REAL GFE experience, bareback everything, swallowed every drop of my cum and seemed genuinely happy about it, only cost me 2,000 baht total, she stayed all night and virtually any man here would rate her a solid bargirl 8+ in looks, I am sure a ton of strangers all over the internet would be thrilled if I posted the location of the bar, her name, badge number, times most likely available and all of that. But they would likely NOT have had a vasectomy, do NOT have a current all clear blood screening document to show her and in all likelihood would not generate the same chemistry with her that I established on a first meeting anyway. Therefore, my giving such a girl a well deserved glowing good review here would not only be useless in the sense that every customer is different and not going to get the exact same service the previous one got, but it would also be potentially dangerous for her and counterproductive to MY being able to book her as often as I might want. ".

I would say that is very clear, even blunt and not cluttered up with any "code" words that might be misinterpreted by me or anyone else, wouldn't you?

That was on 4-25-16. Then, beginning the next day, the following posts by various posters, #13408, #13409, #13410, #13413, #13425, #13434, #13464, began this series of responses:

"Reason for the Forum.

EihTooms:

Your post here goes to the very nature of this forum and the reason for its existence. ", "If everybody had your attitude, the forum would not be very useful. ".

"Agree!! (replying to that previous one) Fully agree with you. I don't quite understand ET's attitude, appears selfish to me. ".

(Another reply to that previous one) "Precisely, it's silly and frustrating. ".

(In a more tempered but still agreeing reply to that previous post) "An honest and positive review will help the ladies make more money; which is what they are in the business to do. Look at it as helping her out. It also helps steer fellow punters towards better P4 P experiences and away from the poor providers and tourist traps. ".

Now, moving into two days after my extremely detailed description of what qualifies as one of the "gems" for whom I would not share detailed contact information on the forum, I got this comment; "ET. No disrespect intended but you're not just being a little selfish but also naive for not 'sharing'. That's my one and only comment. . " (Since that one had a smiley face on it, I can't say for sure if he was serious or just joking).

Goatscrot somewhat defended my position in not sharing specific contact information for my "gems" and to his post defending it, he got this reply from a poster, "If someone posts about a great girl he found but won't name her and where he found her and why she was great, who gives a fuck that he found her, as it is useless information since the rest of us won't be able to experience her for ourselves. It 's just boasting that he knows something that others don't know, so it would be better for him to not post it all. ".

I replied to that poster and his reply came in this way, "I have neither the time nor inclination to go through your posts to see what you have posted about girls you have been with but your previous post states specifically that you will not give information about your "gold" girls, so I stand by my point: if you don't want anyone to be able to find the girl you are posting about, don't post about her. ".

Those above comments and replies all came before my post #13444 where I suggested a new thread (that you objected to) in order to address what bothered those posters by listing the location, name, badge number, etc. Information that several posters on this forum were, IMO, clearing desiring I share.

Which brings us to the most current one I just replied to and to which you just replied saying you haven't seen what I am talking about, this comment, "At the end of the day almost any hooker can give you good service and people like Eih tooms who post on here and then won't mention the providers information are often just boasting or exaggerating. ".

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1875534]So if I'm wrong, please specify what useful information has been imparted in this thread about BBFS other than that some people may or may not be getting upset about the fact no one is providing identifying information about which girls bareback. Oh, and also that EihTooms likes to bareback.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha. I am not saying all posts here are useful. I am just saying that BB is a topic some guys are very interested in. It would be wrong to assume no-one wants to read about it, I think. However I am speculating rather than speaking for myself only. I don't say that BB is favorite topic of mine.

When I have received it (rarely) from very special girls, in some cases we swapped medical test results LOL, so I don't assume they provide for everyone, and therefore I did not write here "she suddenly ripped the condom off my dick and put it in again BB". I do believe many or most girls probably could be embarrassed if every one knows they do BB whether always or just for special customers.

I don't expect guys to state whether girl provided BB to them in their reports, and it may not be wise to do so.

If I believe a girl does BB freely and easily with anyone, my choice is not to also take BB from her. I let my buddies catch STDs frequently from very iffy girls where I try to avoid them. I don't write bullshit. I rarely take BB other than BJs, as I while my GF can accept that I play up, she won't be so nice if she catches something from me, I am sure.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1875510]If you are not funny, like me[/QUOTE]Actually S. You are too modest when you say you are not funny. I find some of your posts truly hilarious, especially the ones describing your encounters with fake noses. So don't sell yourself short eh. Sure yeh with 8000 posts you can get a tad repetitive but your knowledge of what's happening on the scene is second to none so keep 'them coming pal.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1875478]Well, I have mostly staked out a fairly narrow set of criteria for what qualifies as "great" or (would be) "highly recommended" in P4 P service as far as I am concerned *snip* have you read a detailed report here about such-and-such girl at such-and-such club who delivered exactly this or that service in great detail, acted on it by going to that club and found the experience to be anything close to what was reported here?[/QUOTE]I'm probably an idiot for jumping into this discussion, but I think a couple of valid points are blurred. First, the forum is a great place to get and give information, but the public post is only one information channel. I send a helluva lot more PMs than I post field reports. You ran into a girl at such-and-such bar or MP, and she rocked your world? Great, love to read about your adventures, especially if you are one of the really good writers who occasionally post. If I want to know a name or a badge number or whatever, I am perfectly capable of asking for that specific information.

Second, and I have said something on this point in another post, I no longer think it's smart or a good idea or a sensible choice to name the names. I am reliably informed by some providers who I have known for years -- and who have no reason to bullshit me -- that WAY, WAY too many guys read a report and do, in fact, "act{ed] on it by going to that club and found the experience to be anything close to what was reported", but not EXACTLY what was reported. Result? Guys who are upset and abusive to the girl. So, I stopped reporting names, just venues / MPs. Yes, I will give up names to many people who ask, but I'm cautious about what I say in the open forum.

We rant about how things are not changing for the better in Bangkok. The changes also involve, I think, the clientele. I used to gush about experiences with Fah and Nong and Nestle and Nice and god knows who else 10 years ago. Maybe I was naive then -- and I'm certainly confident that most providers can look after themselves -- but I am much more cautious about what I write. Anyway, my two baht worth. TTG.

Reading through the last few posts would make punters think twice whether they must post their finds or not.

But then each one to his own.

Got a little buzz on my phone, that a new cracker has been spotted and I must make an obligatory visit ASAP. So in the cause of mongering, I headed towards candy.

The girl was just what I needed after a hard dy at office.

Still an amateur and very young. But very enthusiastic and willing to please. Her name is BEAUTY.

Also spotted my other find 2-3 months back Emmy, who still has that schoolgirlish innocence! Lots of punters did write to me, thanking me for the tip on Emmy.

Keep the peace, just enjoy guys!

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1875085]Thanks Canyon for the heads up on June, an amazing sweet sexy lady who really wants to please and provided all I desired and more. Bongkok is an old style oilie no up-front payment and a genuine customer friendly buzz. Will be visiting Mei soon. May I also say I found your round up of the scene here excellent, precise and pertinent and absent the indulgent navel gazing of some of the content we trawl through.[/QUOTE]Reading some of the latest posts reminds me of a comment June from Bongkok made to me when I asked her what nationalities she liked and didn't like. She says for her there are only two kinds of customer good customers and bad customers. She doesn't care where they come from whether fat or skinny, old or young all she asks for is respect. In return she will try her best to please and told me she is happy to let a customer know in advance what is on offer and actually prefers this happens. I liked the part about there being only two kinds of customer, smart lady.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;1875601]Reading through the last few posts would make punters think twice whether they must post their finds or not.

But then each one to his own.

Got a little buzz on my phone, that a new cracker has been spotted and I must make an obligatory visit ASAP. So in the cause of mongering, I headed towards candy.

The girl was just what I needed after a hard dy at office.

Still an amateur and very young. But very enthusiastic and willing to please. Her name is BEAUTY.

Also spotted my other find 2-3 months back Emmy, who still has that schoolgirlish innocence! Lots of punters did write to me, thanking me for the tip on Emmy.

Keep the peace, just enjoy guys![/QUOTE]After experiencing some of the new gals at Candy, I must say that Candy needs to spend some more time training her girls. No matter what they look like they need to have at least a modicum of skills to work in a PSE shop. While enthusiasm is certainly appreciated, on its own is solely not a replacement for knowing your way around the male anatomy. Newer gals should be spending their first few sessions with seasoned veterans in order to develop a baseline skill set and then set out on their own to hone them. The newer gals I have been with at Candy are nice and eager, but for me that is just not enough when we are talking about a PSE shop.

Perhaps AL945 you should volunteer for the position of Guinea pig. You are called in when new blood arrives and then you go with her and one of the vets for a couple of sessions. And in turn Candy gives you 2 for 1 for these sessions.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;1875601]Reading through the last few posts would make punters think twice whether they must post their finds or not.

But then each one to his own.

Got a little buzz on my phone, that a new cracker has been spotted and I must make an obligatory visit ASAP. So in the cause of mongering, I headed towards candy.

The girl was just what I needed after a hard dy at office.

Still an amateur and very young. But very enthusiastic and willing to please. Her name is BEAUTY.

Also spotted my other find 2-3 months back Emmy, who still has that schoolgirlish innocence! Lots of punters did write to me, thanking me for the tip on Emmy.

Keep the peace, just enjoy guys![/QUOTE]She looks Korean to me with cute little tits and slim body. I would certainly find that refreshing along with a winning attitude.