Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1470316]In the 60"S you had LSD, people jumping off buildings thinking they can fly?[/QUOTE]Really? That LSD flying off buildings thing is such a 60's cliché. I remember WindowPane. I went to see the Jefferson Airplane and Quicksilver Messenger on Windowpane. Had a great time. I am sure a few idiots went that way, but statistically they were a misc colorful footnote in annals of drug history.

The major cause of death back then was from intravenous drug overdose of Meth, Heroin or Heroin/Cocaine combos. You could get prescriptions for Meth Amphetamine back in the 60's and pick the shit up at Walgreens.

Most of the drug related deaths that I personally know of came from getting stoned on Heroin, Ludes, and or Booze and getting behind the wheel of a car. Luckily, I escaped relatively unharmed from a few of those kinds of situations where friends were driving. One head on, which was totally my friend's fault broke my nose. In another accident, another friend passed out at the wheel and drove his Ford Van off the road and down a 30 ft gulch in remote Guatemala. Miraculously we all walked away from that one although the half English / half Venezuela girl we were travelling with had a few head lacerations from being thrown through the front windshield of the van. Ah those were the days! Drugs, sex, adventure, stupidity and great music. No Internet, no condoms, and no HIV. I never paid for sex back then and I got laid a lot in Costa Rica and Colombia.

That's the 60's and 70's I remember.

[quote=natty bumpo; 1470334]really? that lsd flying off buildings thing is such a 60's cliché. i remember windowpane. i went to see the jefferson airplane and quicksilver messenger on windowpane. had a great time. i am sure a few idiots went that way, but statistically they were a misc colorful footnote in annals of drug history.

ah those were the days! drugs, sex, adventure, stupidity and great music. no internet, no condoms, and no hiv. i never paid for sex back then and i got laid a lot in costa rica and colombia.

that's the 60's and 70's i remember.[/quote]we must be close to the same age and your recollections are consistent with mine. you could get a hold of some bad acid and get sick. i personally neither knew nor heard of anyone dying from it. like you say the danger was getting a hopped up batch of heroin, mixing booze and barbiturates, and as we used to say, speed killed. marijuana was by far the most frequently used drug, and what was available then was much, much weaker than the stuff that's been sold the past couple of decades. most of us didn't even know that the female plants had more resin, hence more thc. oh ya, shrooms were silly fun.

do you remember the mazola oil parties? they were fun.

ah yes, i remember those days, but not all of them sequentially. ha ha

Here is an email from today:

Yeah. I was down here with him. He was drugged by someone. He said he remembers seeing some strange looking people on the baht bus. One of them touches him. He pulls away and jumps off the bus and starts running. He doesn't know why he was running but he said he felt some people was chasing him. So he just kept running down Walking Street in Pattaya. He ran all the way down, got exhausted and took off all his clothes. Then went into a rage when a woman tried to help. Allegedly punched her and knocked out a tooth. Somewhere in between all that he allegedly made some damage in a hotel lobby. He was arrested, hit with a taser gun and taken to jail. We all pitched in and got bail for him. The toothless woman wanted 50, 000 baht. The hotel wanted 20, 000 baht. Now get this. No one ever saw damage to the hotel or security video. The woman never showed up at the jail to pick up her money. We did make them give us a receipt explaining everything was paid off from further mess coming up. But all he really remembers is that someone grabbed his arm, he jumping off the bus and running, then stripping. He remembers being tasered and put on the back of a truck to go to jail. Then he remembers gathering conscious inside a jail cell with only a towel on. While all this was going on, we was at a club waiting for him to show. We never knew all that went on until the next morning. Someone told us that there is a drug that they can rub on you and it will get into your system.

I'm trying to figure out what drug could cause this. I found Scopolamine. The wiki page even says it is used in Thailand, but there is no citation.

Does he remember if he was sweating? I can imagine if he was running, but not sweating as the drug inhibits sweating, he would feel very hot.

[quote=rbdave; 1470355]i'm trying to figure out what drug could cause this. i found scopolamine. the wiki page even says it is used in thailand, but there is no citation.

does he remember if he was sweating? i can imagine if he was running, but not sweating as the drug inhibits sweating, he would feel very hot.[/quote]when i was in peru, scopolamine was a popular drug to incapacitate people to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and / or rob. now days, whenever i hear or read about someone going psycho, i wonder if they've knowingly or unknowingly ingested bath salts.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/bath-salts-drug-dangers

in the usa, bath salts are a big problem.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1470334]Really? That LSD flying off buildings thing is such a 60's cliché. I remember WindowPane. I went to see the Jefferson Airplane and Quicksilver Messenger on Windowpane. Had a great time. I am sure a few idiots went that way, but statistically they were a misc colorful footnote in annals of drug history.

The major cause of death back then was from intravenous drug overdose of Meth, Heroin or Heroin / Cocaine combos. You could get prescriptions for Meth Amphetamine back in the 60's and pick the shit up at Walgreens.

Most of the drug related deaths that I personally know of came from getting stoned on Heroin, Ludes, and or Booze and getting behind the wheel of a car. Luckily, I escaped relatively unharmed from a few of those kinds of situations where friends were driving. One head on, which was totally my friend's fault broke my nose. In another accident, another friend passed out at the wheel and drove his Ford Van off the road and down a 30 ft gulch in remote Guatemala. Miraculously we all walked away from that one although the half English / half Venezuela girl we were travelling with had a few head lacerations from being thrown through the front windshield of the van. Ah those were the days! Drugs, sex, adventure, stupidity and great music. No Internet, no condoms, and no HIV. I never paid for sex back then and I got laid a lot in Costa Rica and Colombia.

That's the 60's and 70's I remember.[/QUOTE]The use of the example of LSD was just a comparison maybe not a good one for a technical guy like you? That whatever drug it can have it's affect and make you do things you normally wouldn't do. As you noted whatever the drug was your choice it makes you do things and put you in situation you wouldn't normally be in it was just a example to the poster who didn't seem to understand why the guy was so hot? Etc. This is a forum like Google buddy?
Those might be the choices you had but the choices I saw most that was taken in S.F. in the Haight was LSD and of course good old pot!

LBM

[quote=opebo;1470203]sad sight on a recent visit - the beach promenade is scarcely any wider than a hotel hallway now, and the beach road itself is now three lanes wide. there are also no benches on the promenade anymore. the net result is it is that much more difficult for the girls to ply their trade there, and the whole beach effect is much uglier and less appealing. worst of all, it is more hazardous than ever to cross the road (now nearly a highway, with speeds increasing to match).[/quote]what is happening to pattaya!

the 'coconut bar' has allways been a happy hunting ground for me. some of my very best afternoon encounters have been with playmates found there.

it was always nice to take a leisurely afternoon stroll along beach road and stop of for a smoke while sitting on one of the many benches to admire the passing ladies.

are you saying that all the benches are now gone!

i seem to remember that someone told me that the dolphin fountain on beach road at the bottom of central road has gone as well!

oh well, i will be there to check myself in a few days time. i do hope that i will not be disappointed!

never mind. there are always plenty more places to check for an afternoon playmate in pattata.

i can not believe that just because the benches have gone that all the freelancers have stopped going to there!

hotman.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1470352]Here is an email from today:He was drugged by someone. He said he remembers seeing some strange looking people on the baht bus. One of them touches him. He pulls away and jumps off the bus and starts running. Someone told us that there is a drug that they can rub on you and it will get into your system.[/QUOTE]Real strange turn of events, has made me really apprehensive for future trips. What to look out for, if they can do it on the bus, they can very well do it any corner. Have been following Pattaya news website, so many stories of the ladies of the night doing the drugging, but this one beats them all. Do update us on the story as and when it moves Mr Enternational.

[QUOTE=RBDave; 1470218]With the exception that it will be slightly more difficult to cross the road with one additional lane, I must be one of the few that don't give a damn about this. I've been there both before and during rebuild with much of the area complete and don't see any big deal at all. Scarcely wider than a hotel hallway is a gross exaggeration. In fact with the trees removed, I think the walkable space is actually wider than before. Also the mostly even pavers make it easier to walk compared with constantly having to be on the lookout for ankle twisters. I do concede that the pavers will eventually become uneven as they did not build and compact a proper foundation for them.

I've come to the conclusion that people are mostly change averse and don't like it simply because it is different. In another ten years when they make the next change, people will complain about the changes then as well.[/QUOTE]I've watch the work progress over a couple of visits, and I look forward to seeing it complete next week. I thought they were doing a pretty good job and it might be a real improvement.

[QUOTE=CorporateMalaya;1470489]Real strange turn of events, has made me really apprehensive for future trips. What to look out for, if they can do it on the bus, they can very well do it any corner. Have been following Pattaya news website, so many stories of the ladies of the night doing the drugging, but this one beats them all. Do update us on the story as and when it moves Mr Enternational.[/QUOTE]You can get so paranoid that you won't leave your mother's basement. :)

It really is very hard to drug someone, which is why anaesthetists are paid more than surgeons. If you have had several drinks then someone spikes your drink, OK I can believe it. But drugging someone by touching them on a bus? C'mon, get real!

To me it sounds like PCP. I have never really heard of another drug make a person run around and do crazy shit like that. It was / is a little popular with people in Texas to smoke it mixed with marijuana and embalming fluid. One friend told me that when it tried it he looked in the mirror and saw the devil. Then there are many instances of people smoking it and going on violent rampages and killing people.

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[QUOTE=RBDave; 1470218]With the exception that it will be slightly more difficult to cross the road with one additional lane, I must be one of the few that don't give a damn about this. I've been there both before and during rebuild with much of the area complete and don't see any big deal at all. Scarcely wider than a hotel hallway is a gross exaggeration. In fact with the trees removed, I think the walkable space is actually wider than before. Also the mostly even pavers make it easier to walk compared with constantly having to be on the lookout for ankle twisters. I do concede that the pavers will eventually become uneven as they did not build and compact a proper foundation for them.

I've come to the conclusion that people are mostly change averse and don't like it simply because it is different. In another ten years when they make the next change, people will complain about the changes then as well.[/QUOTE]We are in low season now. The real test will come in high season when hordes of tourists want to walk on the promenade. I think we will have to take some thai boxing lessons to be able to pass the bottlenecks.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1470352]He was drugged by someone. He said he remembers seeing some strange looking people on the baht bus. One of them touches him. He pulls away and jumps off the bus and starts running. He doesn't know why he was running .[/QUOTE]Here is the thing: if you are a thief and your modus operandi is to drug someone and then rob them, it is imperative to get the intended victim alone in a private area like a house or apartment. Then when the victim comes under the influence, the thieves can rob him without any hindrance or witnesses.

It sounds like your friend was already drugged, made unconscious, and robbed. After the crime was committed, the perpetrators put him on a bus and that's when he started to come out of it, but he was still under the influence and completely disoriented and so he freaked out. A similar crime happened to someone I know in Manila. He remembers meeting a helpful women on the street. They share a cab together and the last thing he remembers he is being taken to a house in a barrio not too far away. He wakes up in his hotel room 24 hours later, his SLR camera is gone as well as a couple hundred dollars' worth of pesos. How he got back to his hotel room is a mystery. The thieves probably dropped him off somewhere near his hotel and where he originally met the helpful women and he probably walked back to his hotel semi unconscious and still under the influence of the drug. He is lucky to be alive.

The drug could be PCP or a fast acting derivative of some kind.

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1470520]I've watch the work progress over a couple of visits, and I look forward to seeing it complete next week. I thought they were doing a pretty good job and it might be a real improvement.[/QUOTE]Is all the road work near to completion on Beach Road.

Thanks

Hi Guys.

Planning a trip to Pattaya at the end of October. A couple of questions.

What's the weather generally like at the end of October to the middle of November?

Should I bring Canadian Dollars or US dollars?

If somebody can post the latest exchange rates available in Pattaya for both currencies. That would be immensely helpful.

Thanks guys. Will post with confirmed dates and looking forward to meet some of you there.

SexMachine