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[QUOTE=Mackin; 1182185]Can you please help me with a location for Top Charon. Don't recall it as it has been a couple of years since I hgave been able to return. Could be on the scheduls this fall thought.
Thanks[/QUOTE]They are everywhere in Pattaya where tourists go. Just look for the blue and white signs.
[QUOTE=Wes Man; 1182113]Arrived in Pattaya after two nights in both Bangkok and Chiang Mai where the initial discharge of relief happened on all nights. I decided to check out a lot of Pattaya staying at Eastiny Seven for the first night, which of course is GF and close to a lot of beer bars. Checked most in the early evening and then proceeded to Beach Road to check the freelancers as well as the bars up to the beer garden. Saw and spoke to plenty available but really none grabbed me so after eating then proceeded to Walking St.
Checked a couple of Go Go places with nice girls but decided I wanted something a little older and experienced. Went back to beer bars on second road and there met a lady aged 29 who took my eye and spoke well with good english. Decided to buy a couple of lady drinks to to make sure of my choice and then about 11. 00pm bar fined her for 300 bf and after asking 2000 long time she dropped to 1000 which was fine for me. Back to hotel for a superb session and stayed all night and had a morning session before breakfast.
Not being happy with hotel I sent her home while I found a good hotel and then met her at 11. 00. She wanted to spend the day with me. Checked into Areca Lodge (girls no problem) with her and I decided she could stay another night. From then on the service just got superb to the point I had to slow her down at times as she was too much for me. Every time of the day when we arrived back at the hotel she would strip off naked and lay on the bed and you know what starts then.
Hotel was just across the road from LK Metro, so with my girl we visited many bars there. All good drinking and eating with plenty of available ladies. Things were so good for me I did something which was not normal for me. I kept my friend for 6 days where we lived together the whole time. It was so good I was sad to have to wave good bye to her. But have already booked my fare to Pattaya in November. If she is around, maybe. If not there are plenty of opportunities.
I decided Pattaya was so far ahead of Chiang Mai and Bangkok that next time I would head straight to Pattaya. By the way the scuba diving there is good as well.
Off to Ko Samui now and then to Phuket. I do not know what is in store for me but will find out.[/QUOTE]Both Koh Samui and Phuket are pretty good. Beaches are much better than Pattaya (if you care).
Phuket=Bangla Road. Gogo's and plenty of FL's. Depends on what you like, but the MP's are really good in Phuket. Lots of girls willing to go LT and from my experience their service is great.
Koh Samui is very low key with great beaches. There are girls (bars) in both Chaweng and Lamai. Not a lot of girls like Pats or Phuket, but enough. Again though, I was impressed with the MP scene. Every girl I snagged at those places begged me to take them LT. All gave great GFE including BB offers.
Phuket gets pretty crowded, but still not as bad as Pattaya.
The food at both places is very good.
Hope you have fun.
Could it get any better? That is the question that I ask myself each time I leave Pattaya. And somehow, some way, it does get better. I had a great 8-nights in my favorite city in the world. This was my forth trip within a year and even though the flights can be exhausting and pricy, it is still well worth the travel time and money. Each trip I develop new contacts, meet more Mamasans, and reunite with old friends. This trip, I had the pleasure of hanging out with Mr. Enternational and Jon1283. Mr. E, that tip on the cell phone sim card was priceless! If one girl didn't show up for my afternoon romp, I just called another.
I stayed 8 nights at the Penthouse, my favorite home away from home. See Penthouse thread for report. I knew that 8 nights would call for at least 3 bottles of my buddy, Mr. Bubble. No matter how old the girl was, they played in the bubbles like they were 5 years of age. I also like introducing the water jets to the girls; my goodness they had a blast.
Freelancers.
There was several tents set up for vendors in the Coconut Bar, so there was not a lot of activity on Beach Road, but then again, I only walked it a couple of times. The freelancers were abundant in the Beer Garden, Discos, and on Walking Street. Some were hotties, some OK, some not OK.
Soi 6.
Jon1283 and myself went on a Soi 6 crawl. It wasn't much of a crawl, but we did hit 4 places. Full Moon, Lisa, Red Point, and Passion Dance Club. My favorite was sitting outside with the girls at Lisa and watching then interact with people walking by, and how two of them interacted with me. My least favorite was Passion. The dancers had bodies like skeletons. Not even sure how their clothes stayed on; my guess was super glue.
Alcatraz.
I was in search of my girl, AMP, who worked at X-Zone on my last trip. She told me on FB that she worked at Alcatraz; so I stopped in. No AMP to be found, but the place was quite busy and I don't understand why. Out of the 15+ dancers on the stages and platforms, only one was topless. The club has this new hot tub in the back with a couple of naked women washing each other, but no one seemed interested but me.
The Moon.
A new club on WS. When I walked in and sat down, I had a,"What in the fuck were they thinking" moment. I mean, do any of these owners do any market research? Wacked out theme, but there were a few hotties dancing; one drink and gone.
Rhino.
I got a FB message from AMP that she was now working at Rhino. The club has been open for a little over a month. I tracked down Mamasan and we had a drink and talked. A good share of hotties were dancing, but no AMP. Mamasan told me that AMP worked yesterday, but was not working today; damn the bad luck. But the place was quite nice and I will return to this club.
Tahitian Queen 2.
I stopped in for the 2 for 1 drink special and to check out one of the girls that I liked this past April. She was a friend on the one that skipped out on me during the New Year's festival. Tall girl, long hair, and a good dancer. She was quite appealing until she laid a lip lock on me and played the "Who can suck the tongue out of each other's mouth" game. After about three kisses, I felt like calling for a medic. That was the end of our short relationship.
Happy.
I think that Happy has one of the best line ups of girls in Pattaya. But then again, I have not been in all the clubs that Pattaya has to offer. I think it would take 3-4 months to go through them all.
Baby Dolls.
One of my favorite clubs nowadays. Mamasan is a real sweetie. I found out Mamasan has 4 nieces that dance in the club; talk about all in the family. Because I had so much going on this trip, I was only able to stop in a few times. But each time I enjoyed watching the cuties on stage and checking out the shows; the place has a nice mix to it.
Champion.
I found out that Mamasan Sue, that used to work at Baby Dolls, now has her own club at Champion. Having a couple of drinks with her, she told me that she averages 40-45 girls a night; geez lousie, that's a lot of pussy. I was taking a phone call outside when this beauty in a robe walked by and said Hello. I stopped her and said,"You are fucking beautiful!" She was one of the Champion girls and I was in love for the 5th time of my trip. I bar fined her the following night.
Club Relaxxx.
This place is directly below the X-Zone. I usually by bypass the place, but one night the door was open and there was a free buffet, yep, got my attention. I sat next to the hot tub and 2 women were playing with bubbles. It got a bit annoying because the bubbles keep getting in my drink. But I did get a chance to look around and there were a few hotties in the mix.
X-Zone.
This was base camp for me. No matter what I did throughout the day and evening, I always made it to the Zone. I love Mamasan, the girls, and the staff. Mamasan threw a big party on Monday evening and catered all the food, and bought me a half bottle of Tequila to boot which I shared with one of my girls. I had the opportunity to play with one of the servers, the hostess, and two of the dancers; none seemed jealous of the other. My favorite performer, Puy, seems to be off the market and I'm happy for her, in a strange and sad way. CK (crazy Korean) is still going strong with the shows. She seems wacked out on stage, but she is really a sweet woman that has a good heart. The place is still for sale and if I had the money, I would buy the place.
Opportunity is everywhere!
One day I was hung over (go figure) and being lazy, too lazy to call a girl or head out to the Coconut Bar to look for a girl. I was sitting at Sin Bin talking to the owner, Ian, and told him I was planning to go fishing from his bar. This confused him until he heard me talking to girls that were walking by. It wasn't long before Bow walked by. She ignored me on her first trip by, but on her return trip, with a little urging, she came over to the bar. Turns out, Bow works close to my hotel, and after a couple of drinks, we headed for my room.
Bow is a village girl that has only been in Pattaya for 3 months. A little shy and quite naive; I like both. She thought the sex swing was something from her grade school years, I explained and showed her differently; that was fun! I introduced her to Mr. Bubble and the water jets; more fun indeed. We played in the room for a couple of hours and she was surprised when I handed her 1000b. The next few days I was quite busy, but I always stopped at her bar and bought her a drink up until I left.
Do's and Don't's on this trip:
Do's:
- Explore as much as possible.
- Be patient and let things develop.
- If you only buy one drink in a club, make sure it is for Mamasan; doors will open.
Don't's.
- Give Soi 6 girls your phone number.
- Take your medication with alcohol.
- Sleep until 4 in the afternoon, might miss an opportunity
- Waste time wondering why there are so many families with kids on Walking Street.
- Consider, even for a second, that a crosswalk is a safe haven.
- Buy into the "Sky is falling and there are no more women in Pattaya" bullshit
Any advice on Rasputin please. Planning to be there next week for a week. Also where is this place. I can't seem to find in any map. Thanks in advance guys.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1182378]Don't's.
- Give Soi 6 girls your phone number.[/QUOTE]I gave my number to a girl that I liked from Saigon in Soi 6.
It worked out really well for me. She was one of my regular girls, and had her own room at this bar. But was told to leave after having an arguement with the boss.
She came to stay with me, and gave me a lovely time. I only had to pay her 700b each day, but had her to myself.
She was very happy that she was being looked after, and in return gave me a wonderful time too.
Shame she had to go back to her family.
[QUOTE=Nomadic Mong;1182388]Any advice on Rasputin please. Planning to be there next week for a week. Also where is this place. I can't seem to find in any map. Thanks in advance guys.[/QUOTE]Rasputin is easy to find, if you know where soi 6 is. It is close to Soi 6.
You can either enter from Beach Road, or 2nd Road. You won't see if from the edge of the road though. But you will see signs, so you can easily follow the signs to the place.
I've been inside twice to take a look. My friend has been with a few girls from there. He said that some of the girls working there are models. They even show you the magazines, these models are from, so you know it's genuine. The rooms are really nice too. He prefers this place to the other soapies because there rooms are more modern and bigger.
But you pay more too.
They have 2 areas when you walk inside.
One room of regular girls, and another room of models. I think the models are all very fair skin. (plus charge more)
Cannot remember the prices though.
Other soapies normally charge 1800b for 90 minutes. I think Rasputin starts above 2000b.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1182524]Has anyone seen any ample breasts I mean major league hooters in the vicinity? I am going to BKK in Nov and might make the trip to Patts if worthwhile. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Boby at Devils Den.
[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/profile.php?idEscort=131[/url]
[QUOTE=Nomadic Mong;1182388]Any advice on Rasputin please. Planning to be there next week for a week. Also where is this place. I can't seem to find in any map. Thanks in advance guys.[/QUOTE]I went there on my last visit but don't remember the location as it was far from beach road. They have a nice setup with clean premises and the room was pretty good. Actually It was a 'hotel like' building being used for the purpose with a person on the front desk handling room keys, a helper bringing the supplies and even room service if you want drinks etc. Some of the girls were good looking and some were average but most were fair skinned. They had two rates 1800 and 2500 depending on the girl but the girl I chose obviously ended up being 2500. My girl didn't speak any English so if I go there next time I would probably get someone who spoke some english. Overall a nice experience.
[QUOTE=Bobbysays;1182570]I went there on my last visit but don't remember the location as it was far from beach road. They have a nice setup with clean premises and the room was pretty good. Actually It was a 'hotel like' building being used for the purpose with a person on the front desk handling room keys, a helper bringing the supplies and even room service if you want drinks etc. Some of the girls were good looking and some were average but most were fair skinned. They had two rates 1800 and 2500 depending on the girl but the girl I chose obviously ended up being 2500. My girl didn't speak any English so if I go there next time I would probably get someone who spoke some english. Overall a nice experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting.
Maybe you could give us a little more info on what type of service you got for 2500.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1182378]Opportunity is everywhere!
Don't's.
- Buy into the "Sky is falling and there are no more women in Pattaya" bullshit[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. However, if they want to buy into that theory, then so be it. Thanks for the report.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1182378]Could it get any better? That is the question that I ask myself each time I leave Pattaya. And somehow, some way, it does get better. I had a great 8-nights in my favorite city in the world. This was my forth trip within a year and even though the flights can be exhausting and pricy, it is still well worth the travel time and money. Each trip I develop new contacts, meet more Mamasans, and reunite with old friends. This trip, I had the pleasure of hanging out with Mr. Enternational and Jon1283. Mr. E, that tip on the cell phone sim card was priceless! If one girl didn't show up for my afternoon romp, I just called another.
I stayed 8 nights at the Penthouse, my favorite home away from home. See Penthouse thread for report. I knew that 8 nights would call for at least 3 bottles of my buddy, Mr. Bubble. No matter how old the girl was, they played in the bubbles like they were 5 years of age. I also like introducing the water jets to the girls; my goodness they had a blast.
Freelancers.
There was several tents set up for vendors in the Coconut Bar, so there was not a lot of activity on Beach Road, but then again, I only walked it a couple of times. The freelancers were abundant in the Beer Garden, Discos, and on Walking Street. Some were hotties, some OK, some not OK.
Soi 6.
Jon1283 and myself went on a Soi 6 crawl. It wasn't much of a crawl, but we did hit 4 places. Full Moon, Lisa, Red Point, and Passion Dance Club. My favorite was sitting outside with the girls at Lisa and watching then interact with people walking by, and how two of them interacted with me. My least favorite was Passion. The dancers had bodies like skeletons. Not even sure how their clothes stayed on; my guess was super glue.
Alcatraz.
I was in search of my girl, AMP, who worked at X-Zone on my last trip. She told me on FB that she worked at Alcatraz; so I stopped in. No AMP to be found, but the place was quite busy and I don't understand why. Out of the 15+ dancers on the stages and platforms, only one was topless. The club has this new hot tub in the back with a couple of naked women washing each other, but no one seemed interested but me.
The Moon.
A new club on WS. When I walked in and sat down, I had a,"What in the fuck were they thinking" moment. I mean, do any of these owners do any market research? Wacked out theme, but there were a few hotties dancing; one drink and gone.
Rhino.
I got a FB message from AMP that she was now working at Rhino. The club has been open for a little over a month. I tracked down Mamasan and we had a drink and talked. A good share of hotties were dancing, but no AMP. Mamasan told me that AMP worked yesterday, but was not working today; damn the bad luck. But the place was quite nice and I will return to this club.
Tahitian Queen 2.
I stopped in for the 2 for 1 drink special and to check out one of the girls that I liked this past April. She was a friend on the one that skipped out on me during the New Year's festival. Tall girl, long hair, and a good dancer. She was quite appealing until she laid a lip lock on me and played the "Who can suck the tongue out of each other's mouth" game. After about three kisses, I felt like calling for a medic. That was the end of our short relationship.
Happy.
I think that Happy has one of the best line ups of girls in Pattaya. But then again, I have not been in all the clubs that Pattaya has to offer. I think it would take 3-4 months to go through them all.
Baby Dolls.
One of my favorite clubs nowadays. Mamasan is a real sweetie. I found out Mamasan has 4 nieces that dance in the club; talk about all in the family. Because I had so much going on this trip, I was only able to stop in a few times. But each time I enjoyed watching the cuties on stage and checking out the shows; the place has a nice mix to it.
Champion.
I found out that Mamasan Sue, that used to work at Baby Dolls, now has her own club at Champion. Having a couple of drinks with her, she told me that she averages 40-45 girls a night; geez lousie, that's a lot of pussy. I was taking a phone call outside when this beauty in a robe walked by and said Hello. I stopped her and said,"You are fucking beautiful!" She was one of the Champion girls and I was in love for the 5th time of my trip. I bar fined her the following night.
Club Relaxxx.
This place is directly below the X-Zone. I usually by bypass the place, but one night the door was open and there was a free buffet, yep, got my attention. I sat next to the hot tub and 2 women were playing with bubbles. It got a bit annoying because the bubbles keep getting in my drink. But I did get a chance to look around and there were a few hotties in the mix.
X-Zone.
This was base camp for me. No matter what I did throughout the day and evening, I always made it to the Zone. I love Mamasan, the girls, and the staff. Mamasan threw a big party on Monday evening and catered all the food, and bought me a half bottle of Tequila to boot which I shared with one of my girls. I had the opportunity to play with one of the servers, the hostess, and two of the dancers; none seemed jealous of the other. My favorite performer, Puy, seems to be off the market and I'm happy for her, in a strange and sad way. CK (crazy Korean) is still going strong with the shows. She seems wacked out on stage, but she is really a sweet woman that has a good heart. The place is still for sale and if I had the money, I would buy the place.
Opportunity is everywhere!
One day I was hung over (go figure) and being lazy, too lazy to call a girl or head out to the Coconut Bar to look for a girl. I was sitting at Sin Bin talking to the owner, Ian, and told him I was planning to go fishing from his bar. This confused him until he heard me talking to girls that were walking by. It wasn't long before Bow walked by. She ignored me on her first trip by, but on her return trip, with a little urging, she came over to the bar. Turns out, Bow works close to my hotel, and after a couple of drinks, we headed for my room.
Bow is a village girl that has only been in Pattaya for 3 months. A little shy and quite naive; I like both. She thought the sex swing was something from her grade school years, I explained and showed her differently; that was fun! I introduced her to Mr. Bubble and the water jets; more fun indeed. We played in the room for a couple of hours and she was surprised when I handed her 1000b. The next few days I was quite busy, but I always stopped at her bar and bought her a drink up until I left.
Do's and Don't's on this trip:
Do's:
- Explore as much as possible.
- Be patient and let things develop.
- If you only buy one drink in a club, make sure it is for Mamasan; doors will open.
Don't's.
- Give Soi 6 girls your phone number.
- Take your medication with alcohol.
- Sleep until 4 in the afternoon, might miss an opportunity
- Waste time wondering why there are so many families with kids on Walking Street.
- Consider, even for a second, that a crosswalk is a safe haven.
- Buy into the "Sky is falling and there are no more women in Pattaya" bullshit[/QUOTE]Glad you had a great time Tomjackin. I completely agree on all of your do's and don'ts. Especially buying a drink for the Mamasans. Not only does it open up doors for you, but it also helps in case of any problems with any of the girls. I will be there in Patts in October.
Beaverhunter
" I stayed 8 nights at the Penthouse, my favorite home away from home."
Way to get it Tomjackn!
Nice to hear someone else having a good time at PH Hotel. I love there breakfast room service. And next time I'm try try to get with the cook, something about her that turns me on when she brings my pancakes! LOL
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1182677]Glad you had a great time Tomjackin.
Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Did you really have to quote Tomjackin's whole report. :( Give us a little break and snip when you quote.
My wheel mouse will be grateful.
Slim
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1182777]" I stayed 8 nights at the Penthouse, my favorite home away from home."
Way to get it Tomjackn![/QUOTE]Appreciate you not quoting his whole report. :)
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1182839]Did you really have to quote Tomjackin's whole report. Give us a little break and snip when you quote.
My wheel mouse will be grateful.
Slim[/QUOTE]Sorry didn't mean to ruin your nite and / or morning and causing your finger to get a blister.
Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1181697]Great report. Should be in the 'Reports of Distinction. '
Such a change from reading all the BS and the guys spending hours searching the beach for their 50 Baht fuck with diamond that is just not there. Of course you found what you were looking for because you were looking in the right place. Yes this involved spending more than 50 Baht but you came to Pattaya to party and you didn't care.
Great stuff.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sangkid! Glad you liked my report. I wanted to write about my nice time which I truly had there. I have also read a LOT of bullshit reports and people complaining about the quality, service etc. I found exactly what I was looking and luckily even a bit more. Yes my trip surely was not the most economical one but as I travel to places like Pattaya max once a year I really don't give a fuck about the costs. Of course I don't want to throw my money in the air but if I see someone I like I pay for the price she asks if this is not skyhigh.
Save at home, spend on the holiday!
-Kep
I haven't contributed to the Thailand threads as they are very comprehensive and there are books written on these places by better writers with deeper insight than I. But I got the chance to visit again and after cruising the reports decided to visit Pattaya for the first time. Now I have spent a lot of time in other areas of this wonderful country, and cannot fathom how I never came to this town before. More concentrated vice and mongering opportunity per square meter than a sober mind can contemplate. Thus my inability to sleep and the constant intake of ice cold beers since my arrival at about 10 PM last night.
Now I sit in Lewiinski's, a place I found thanks to Mr. Popper's hotel thread. Here is a summary of my moments leading to the writing of this post that I thought would be helpful to any people new to this city.
Arrival in BKK airport, got a cab to Pattaya at the public taxi stand with a female driver who flirted with me the whole time (was not cute enough to take her up on the offers). Cost a total of 1500 Bhat. I drank two beers which I bought in the airport and was here in about 90 minutes. Not bad.
The driver could not find the hotel I originally wanted (Riviera Hotel on Soi 13/2) , so I checked into a place called the Hotel Norge which is sort of a dump just around the corner from where I was looking on Soi 14. It has a small room (meaning about the size of the bed) with a powerful AC and hot water for Bh 350, and sits about a five minute stroll from walking street. No charge for girls, just need to leave their I'd at the desk. The woman running the place at the front counter is fun and makes a lot of jokes. No need to pay up front.". You pay tomorrow." she said when I checked in.
Three girls in my first hours here. The first ones I overpaid for, as is often the case when the boner drives the bargain. Got a hotel room above the bar (cannot remember the name) for Bh 500, and paid Bh 500 fine and Bh 1000 for her with a short term contract. Went back in and saw a prettier friend that I took home for the night and paid her Bh 2000 on top of the bar fine. Both were very fun and played their role well.
This morning I was strolling the beach to clear my head and saw a pretty girl who I talked to and questioned about some logistics such as buying a SIM card (Bh 100 in any 7/11). Ended up going to a room (Bh 100 for an hour) and paying her Bh 500 for her services. She was great as well. Gave her Bh 20 to get a cab and came here to have my first beer of the morning. Promises to be a very adventurous 3 days, and I doubt I will ever visit Bangkok again.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1183291]Wow, nice jr, thanks![/QUOTE]Here is the report I filed on another site about my days with Boby. Enjoy.
While I was in Pattaya Boby returned to the Den after being absent for a while.
Based on some very good prior reviews I had originally booked her for my last trip only to see her leave before I arrived, so I decided to use her return to make a booking. If I remember correctly I had her on her first day back at the Den. And she was horny as hell.
Boby is without doubt in a league of her own. She looks like her pictures on the website [url]http://devilsdenpatt.hp?idEscort=131[/url]
Fake long blond hair, fake nails, lots of make-up. Nothing like the TGs I would normally book, quite the contrary.
However, she is nothing short of outstanding in bed. What a ride!
I have travelled many places, been with many ladies over the years and Boby made it to my lifetime top 10 list of ladies in terms of sex (not looks).
She is the first TG to make this list. A list which rarely gets new members as the entry requirements are set at a very high level.
I was so happy with her performance that I almost instantly changed from a one day to a five day booking with her. If would probably have stayed with her for longer but I needed a break.
Here are a couple of pics of lovely things I found working on the beach road. They were ready, happy to serve and willing to pose. Just to show that that with the right eye you can spot some jewels in the morass.
Cheers all.
Lance
[QUOTE=Junior; 1183357]Here is the report I filed on another site about my days with Boby. Enjoy.
While I was in Pattaya Boby returned to the Den after being absent for a while.[/QUOTE]The weekly Dose of DD Drivel. How could we get through a week without it?
The Go-Go girls are taking another bashing and being rejected in favor of those 'Non Mechanical' fuck goddesses that pander to all customers' whims / fantasies and never give a bad performance. Last time I looked the queue to get in stretched about three blocks. The knock on effect from this is that for sale signs have now gone up on 95% of the Go-Go Bars in Pattaya as the masses head away from the really sexy girls and exciting carnival atmosphere of the Walking Street.
Are the guys joining the queue making a good choice? Should they believe the hype? Well when they do eventually have their turn they will find out. They will learn if they have made an expensive mistake or found something available in no other place in Pattaya. I met a guy the other night. He had DD in his boxes to be ticked. He tried it and the process didn't work for him. Instead of a tick he ended up putting a cross in his box.
BTW the bit about 95% of the Go-Go Bars in Pattaya for sale is not true. Don't believe everything you read here.
[QUOTE=Lance-a-Lot; 1183610]Here are a couple of pics of lovely things I found working on the beach road. They were ready, happy to serve and willing to pose. Just to show that that with the right eye you can spot some jewels in the morass.
Cheers all.
Lance[/QUOTE]I hope you checked her I'd first and took her to McDonald's after.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1183657]The weekly Dose of DD Drivel. How could we get through a week without it?[/QUOTE]Well, since you asked. .
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1183657]The Go-Go girls are taking another bashing and being rejected in favor of those 'Non Mechanical' fuck goddesses that pander to all customers' whims / fantasies and never give a bad performance.[/QUOTE]When I first got to Pattaya I had a little trouble with the agogo scene specifically with starfish, runners, and most inexplicably, rejection. I was used to the termas in Rio where rejection is almost unheard of. DD was similar to the termas in many ways. No rejection, anal, excellent performance, in-house ST. DD is billed as an expensive option but it really is not that much more expensive than a gogo girl especially when you consider that sometimes you can buy quite a few drinks and LDs before finding that special someone in the agogos. What DD did for me was got me a great session with 2 lovely ladies and it seemed to get me on track for the rest of the trip to have some fine sessions with gogo and beer bar girls.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1183657]Are the guys joining the queue making a good choice? Should they believe the hype? Well when they do eventually have their turn they will find out. They will learn if they have made an expensive mistake or found something available in no other place in Pattaya. I met a guy the other night. He had DD in his boxes to be ticked. He tried it and the process didn't work for him. Instead of a tick he ended up putting a cross in his box.[/QUOTE]Since the guy put the cross in the box it was almost as valuable a lesson because now he knows it is not for him. To me the $100 or so he spent was worth trying it and finding out (and I am sure it was not horrible or a complete waste, just a non-repeater). From what I have read a lot of guys leave with them same perspective, it is too contrived, artificial, no thrill of the hunt, etc. Some guys love it and think it is the best. For me it was a PSE on par with any I have had anywhere in the world. That being said if I was on a trip to Pattaya I probably would not go there more than once a week because I prefer the GFE which is easier to get but working the bars and taking a girl out LT. Pattaya is big enough for both kinds of venues and lots of other types too.
[QUOTE=Junior; 1183357]Here is the report I filed on another site about my days with Boby. Enjoy.
While I was in Pattaya Boby returned to the Den after being absent for a while.
Based on some very good prior reviews I had originally booked her for my last trip only to see her leave before I arrived, so I decided to use her return to make a booking. If I remember correctly I had her on her first day back at the Den. And she was horny as hell.
Boby is without doubt in a league of her own. She looks like her pictures on the website.
[url]http://devilsdenpatt.hp?idEscort=131[/url]
Fake long blond hair, fake nails, lots of make-up. Nothing like the TGs I would normally book, quite the contrary.
However, she is nothing short of outstanding in bed. What a ride!
I have travelled many places, been with many ladies over the years and Boby made it to my lifetime top 10 list of ladies in terms of sex (not looks).
She is the first TG to make this list. A list which rarely gets new members as the entry requirements are set at a very high level.
I was so happy with her performance that I almost instantly changed from a one day to a five day booking with her. If would probably have stayed with her for longer but I needed a break.[/QUOTE]Boby is a "Fucking" Rockstar, I am glad she is back. The girl is insatiable, also one of the best fucks I've ever had. Her looks are little bit less than I normally go for, but the gigantic natural tits were what caused me to take a chance on her, and was I rewarded. Best titty-fuck ever for sure, I was also surprised how tight her ass was. I am not real big on repeat performances with TWG's, but this one I plan to fuck again if she's still there next trip.
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1182839]Did you really have to quote Tomjackin's whole report. Give us a little break and snip when you quote.
My wheel mouse will be grateful.
Slim[/QUOTE]How do you quickly "snip" a series of quotes. I've always spent too much time erasing text with the back button and always knew that there must be a better way
Visited the newly opened MOON on Walking Street. That's the one with the bulbous "Moonscape" facade. Total waste of time and a B65 draft!
Interior is all white with colored lighting. Girls are dressed "coyote" style, with all white halter tops and short shorts; nothing whatsoever showing. There are some very good looking dancers but they all have the 1000 yard stare and make no eye contact. This could be Pattaya's first bar with robots.
Don't bother.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1181930]I grew up in San Francisco, California (USA) in the 1960s. One of my fondest memories as a boy was driving down Broadway Boulevard and seeing the go-go dancers in elevated plexi-glass boxes outside the clubs. Even better was the larger than life photos of Carol Doda with her 44DDs outside the Condor Club.
This was post-beatnik San Francisco. There was drugs and debauchery everywhere you looked. The friendly ladies outside the Walking Street clubs are fairly tame in comparison. Funny thing, the Condor Club is still there today, but the Carol Doda placards are long gone![/QUOTE]I can't help but wonder what Carol Doda looks like now; must be an epic struggle with gravity.
Oh alas I visited Pattaya without knowing. The Beach Road is largely shut down by a horrible market for worthless junk: shoes, ladies blouses and handbags, and other worthless items. Most of the dear ladies have failed to show up as they are uncomfortable amongst the crowds and under the disapproving eyes of the typical socially-conservative Thai citizens who sell this tourist garbage. Of course this is the intention of the market. Drive away the hated streetwalkers and farang.
So now my visit is almost totally a waste of time. Boys, get used to it, as with the return of democracy our options will be ever-narrowing from now on.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1184382]Oh alas I visited Pattaya without knowing. The Beach Road is largely shut down by a horrible market for worthless junk: shoes, ladies blouses and handbags, and other worthless items. Most of the dear ladies have failed to show up as they are uncomfortable amongst the crowds and under the disapproving eyes of the typical socially-conservative Thai citizens who sell this tourist garbage. Of course this is the intention of the market. Drive away the hated streetwalkers and farang.
So now my visit is almost totally a waste of time. Boys, get used to it, as with the return of democracy our options will be ever-narrowing from now on.[/QUOTE]Why a waste of time? There are many, many other spots you can go to.
The question is, where do the beach road girls go when they can't do their usual stroll?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1184421]Why a waste of time? There are many, many other spots you can go to.[/QUOTE]I don't like the other options.
[QUOTE=David_33;1184424]The question is, where do the beach road girls go when they can't do their usual stroll?[/QUOTE]During the Great Crackdown, many of them gave up the business entirely and went to work at Big C or in factories and what-not (the things poor people must do in countries where the easy jobs like prostitution are disallowed). As for what they do during shorter periods of enforced holiday, I find from my telephoning that many take the opportunity to go home for a visit, and quite a lot just sit in their apartments doing jigsaw puzzles and watching movies. Seriously, I asked a girl 'did I wake you when I called you to meet me at 1:00 AM?" and she said 'no I was just doing a jigsaw puzzle and watching a movie'.
OK, two more questions:
1. Does anyone know how long this "sidewalk marketplace" will last?
2. Does anyone remember who posted that excellent report with the interesting photos of the bargain girls in the shacks at the end of Walking Street and / or when it was posted?
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1184435]I don't like the other options.
During the Great Crackdown, many of them gave up the business entirely and went to work at Big C or in factories and what-not (the things poor people must do in countries where the easy jobs like prostitution are disallowed). As for what they do during shorter periods of enforced holiday, I find from my telephoning that many take the opportunity to go home for a visit, and quite a lot just sit in their apartments doing jigsaw puzzles and watching movies. Seriously, I asked a girl 'did I wake you when I called you to meet me at 1:00 AM?" and she said 'no I was just doing a jigsaw puzzle and watching a movie'.[/QUOTE]Not trying to start something with you. Just curious. I have been to Pats 3 times. You are talking about the Beach Road. FL's you are interested in?
It seems there are many more as you go back to second Road. I have met them just walking around the Soi 10 area and surrounding streets.
You probably already know this though.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1184382]Oh alas I visited Pattaya without knowing. The Beach Road is largely shut down by a horrible market for worthless junk: shoes, ladies blouses and handbags, and other worthless items. Most of the dear ladies have failed to show up as they are uncomfortable amongst the crowds and under the disapproving eyes of the typical socially-conservative Thai citizens who sell this tourist garbage.[/QUOTE]This sounds like the lower sois along sukhumvit in Bangkok. But the crowds and vendors there have never chased the SWs away, where there is room for them to stand, such as along the wall or by the road where the bus stop is, near soi 5. For a while this year the police were cracking down harder than ever since 2007, but that was before the election of YingLuck's party.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1184382]Of course this is the intention of the market. Drive away the hated streetwalkers and farang.[/QUOTE]Are you sure of that? Or is it only a matter of business? Maybe your girls just moved to another spot, or are awaiting your phone call at home? Or you dropped by at a low time? In my country when the BIB hassle SWs at a certain location in the crackhood they just move to another street.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1184382]So now my visit is almost totally a waste of time. Boys, get used to it, as with the return of democracy our options will be ever-narrowing from now on.[/QUOTE]I'm sure BKK would have had plenty to suit your SW tastes. Chinatown 300 Baht, Grace hotel 500, soi 4 & [email]5@sukh[/email] 700, NPL 1000. IMO it's a buyer's market here now and the bang for my baht is better than it ever has been since 07. To put it another way, the girls are hotter and offering up more for less with a smile. Though perhaps by the high season and an influx of many farang that will not be the case.
[QUOTE=David_33; 1184451]OK, two more questions:
1. Does anyone know how long this "sidewalk marketplace" will last?
2. Does anyone remember who posted that excellent report with the interesting photos of the bargain girls in the shacks at the end of Walking Street and / or when it was posted?[/QUOTE]If I recall that was Mr. Enternational in the BKK forum maybe 1 or 2 months ago.
[QUOTE=Lance-a-Lot;1183610]Just to show that that with the right eye you can spot some jewels in the morass.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't call that a diamond. Maybe silver at best. All the gems are long gone from beach road these days. The gems are to be found in the expensive bars and gogos. Cheap babes don't exist anymore in Pattaya. Pattaya is for the big spenders now!
[quote=mai yao;1184374]i can't help but wonder what carol doda looks like now; must be an epic struggle with gravity.[/quote]being a native san franciscian i grew up just a block away from carol doda club, i was at the age of raging hormores when she made her debute riding down the piano with her original 36c, my cousin, brother and i took turns climbing the iron railing to peek through the crack of the curtain to get a look and being the first set of naked tits i had ever seen they were a thing of beauty. then she got the operation and the next time i saw her they were huge and suddenly big tits were in! months or a year later they brought in a lady from europe her name was evone donjay (spelling for sure is wrong) her assets were a natural 44d and she was the headliner at a club off broadway just a block away. i got to see her big tits and glimpse of her show even though i was **** since i allow for a small fee the mafia boss to park his big cadillac in our driveway.
well back to c. d. and what she looks like? in 2000, i worked on union street for 2 months to fill in for another driver while he was on family leave. c. d. then (not sure any longer?) had a high end lingerie shop on union street. i delivery to her store each day and during that period each day we made small talk and i made it known to her that i saw her naked. even then, not sure how old she was but guessing maybe early 60's, she had a small budge on her waist along with a pair of chicken legs and of course those huge breast that most likely were being held up by one of her own sexy products. lots of makeup but each time i spoke to her i though about her big breast and if given the chance of doing her would i take up the offer just to say privately that i did c. d? the best i can describe then was that she look like a younger betty davis the movie star? today she got to be in the 70's, you use your imagination? today if i was to do her surely i wouldn't go around telling everyone but most likely go to the grave with my secret?
lbm
[QUOTE=Mai Yao;1184367]How do you quickly "snip" a series of quotes. I've always spent too much time erasing text with the back button and always knew that there must be a better way[/QUOTE]There are a few ways to snip. But I think the easiest is to highlight the text to be removed and just hit the "Backspace" or "Delete" key. Just takes a second or two and makes the forum MUCH more readable.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1184382]Oh alas I visited Pattaya without knowing. The Beach Road is largely shut down by a horrible market for worthless junk: shoes, ladies blouses and handbags, and other worthless items. Most of the dear ladies have failed to show up as they are uncomfortable amongst the crowds and under the disapproving eyes of the typical socially-conservative Thai citizens who sell this tourist garbage. Of course this is the intention of the market. Drive away the hated streetwalkers and farang.
So now my visit is almost totally a waste of time. Boys, get used to it, as with the return of democracy our options will be ever-narrowing from now on.[/QUOTE]Where is this market? I'm here now and I've walked Beach Road from Walking Street to Central Road every day for a week, and I haven't seen it. But I have seen a lot of uncommonly beautiful women on the so-called "Coconut Bar". They're all complaining about the lack of tourists, and prices have come down.
I've also seen that most of the massage shops are either lowering their prices, running specials, or both.
Life is good in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1184473]I wouldn't call that a diamond. Maybe silver at best. All the gems are long gone from beach road these days. The gems are to be found in the expensive bars and gogos. Cheap babes don't exist anymore in Pattaya. Pattaya is for the big spenders now![/QUOTE]What?
I know some of you have high standards, but there are hundreds of girls on Soi 6 for 700 baht + 300 room. You can take them LT also.
Is that too much for you?
And don't tell me they are all ugly.
I called my contact in Pattaya Oil to tell her I was looking for a young girl that was just getting or coming to Pattaya. Her friend had just arrived from Chiang Mai and was a go for ST. She was a cute girl-short hair style, bright and bubbly but there was no way she was new to the business. She smoked, drank and clearly was experienced. Heck for 500 baht I didn't care. I went for it.
The sex was uneventful but after the deed I noticed something very disturbing-a massive very visible scar on her wrist. It was clear to me what it was-she had attempted suicide at some point. I didn't want to ask about it as it would no doubt open up a can of worms or emotions and I didn't want to deal with it. If you look at her photo you can clearly see the scar.
It seems so many girls (and foriegners) come to Pattaya to kill themselves. You see and hear about it everyday. Pattaya is a double edged sword I guess.
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1184308]Yet more drivel.
Come on pal. Fucking Rockstar? Insatiable, Best Fucks Ever, Best Titty Fuck, Tight Ass. Blaa, Blaa, fucking Blaa.
This section of the forum is getting like the Pattaya Drivel forum everyday.[/QUOTE]You've already made your feelings about the Devil's Den perfectly clear. Is this gentleman not entitled to his opinions? Hyper-critical posters like yourself who contribute little to no useful info are tiresome, indeed, and take some of the enjoyment away from perusing the ISG. Why don't you start your own board, since you seem to know everything!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1184503]What?
I know some of you have high standards, but there are hundreds of girls on Soi 6 for 700 baht + 300 room. You can take them LT also.
Is that too much for you?
And don't tell me they are all ugly.[/QUOTE]You're welcome to post photos of the "cheap babes" you find in Pattaya now days. I found a really hot girl last time on soi 6 but she wouldn't go for less than a 1000 ST + 300 (room). Not cheap in my opinion!
I'm not saying there aren't any good looking girls in Pattaya anymore, there is just a lack of "cheap" good looking girls. Mediocre freelancers are demanding 1000ST now.
[QUOTE=Mai Yao;1184367]How do you quickly "snip" a series of quotes. I've always spent too much time erasing text with the back button and always knew that there must be a better way[/QUOTE]Put your mouse where you want to start snipping, left click and hold. Drag the mouse to where you want to stop snipping. The text should be highlighted. Hit delete key.
Another way is to put the cursor where you want to start snipping. Hold the shift key down and then arrow down, left or right where you want to stop. Text should be highlighted. Hit delete key.
Do NOT delete the "[Quote et al]" at the top or [/QUOTE] at the bottom of the quote. You will screw up the quoted part.
Happy snipping, :)
Slim
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1184549]You're welcome to post photos of the "cheap babes" you find in Pattaya now days. I found a really hot girl last time on soi 6 but she wouldn't go for less than a 1000 ST + 300 (room). Not cheap in my opinion!
I'm not saying there aren't any good looking girls in Pattaya anymore, there is just a lack of "cheap" good looking girls. Mediocre freelancers are demanding 1000ST now.[/QUOTE]Everything is relative. In BKK I'm getting plenty of hot to stunning girls for 1K ST and I consider that a fabulous bargain. For only a tip more one was ready to BB also.
What do you want to pay Pattaya heartbreakers. 500 B ST for a porn star experience? Dream on.
[QUOTE=David 2;1184501]Where is this market? I'm here now and I've walked Beach Road from Walking Street to Central Road every day for a week, and I haven't seen it.[/QUOTE]The market covers almost every inch of the Beach Road promenade from Walking Street to Central Road. It has been in effect all the days I have been here (the last few days) , and continues tonight and at least tomorrow night. Very few girls out at all.
By 'market' I mean that each step of the promenade is lined with stands selling shoes, handbags, garments, knicknacks, and various cheap and poorly made items. The crowds throng in between these shops, bumping into one another, the shoddy merchandise, and stepping on toes. There are almost no girls there because they don't like to face the hateful, disapproving stares of the ordinary Thais.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1184549]You're welcome to post photos of the "cheap babes" you find in Pattaya now days. I found a really hot girl last time on soi 6 but she wouldn't go for less than a 1000 ST + 300 (room). Not cheap in my opinion!
I'm not saying there aren't any good looking girls in Pattaya anymore, there is just a lack of "cheap" good looking girls. Mediocre freelancers are demanding 1000ST now.[/QUOTE]No pissing match intended, but I have never had a girl on Soi 6 ask for more than the standard 700. Short, tall, thick, slim, attractive, cute, that has been the price.
Also, all the Soi 6 girls I have experienced have been GFE. Kissing, BBBJ, no rush, etc. If the girl you had was that hot and asking 1300, is that really that terrible for GFE?
You would pay at least that much and probably more in any of the monger cities in Thailand, for a "really hot girl".
opebo,
if my history is correct it started a few years ago after the yellow and the red shirt ordeal. the mayor of pattaya decided to help out the locals and its economy by placing tents along beach road for the locals for free to sell their wares for a cheaper price since they didn't have to pay for the space or tents. they even had bands and singers set up on a stage across from soi 6, the first time it was okay then they did it again and again. the traffic got worse and the regular vendors that pay the big bucks on the other side of beach road. complain and rightfully so that it was taking business away from them.
of course the mayor and the others don't listen and continue this practice for the tourist, regardless of how bad the traffic gets. two weeks ago when i was to meet a bunch of guys at the biergarden for dinner on a bike the traffic was at a stand still on beach road, the worse i have seen it for sometime. i finally took a detour and parked on second road. opposite the penthouse hotel. when i got to beach road and 13/2, i realize what they had done to cause the traffic to come to a stand still. they block off beach road. at 13/2 since they had set up a stage outside biergarden for a show meaning all traffic that normally goes to walking st. then turns left up pattaya thai was closed off sending all traffic including the large buses through 13/2 where the penthouse was located.
since my party was late i stood across the stage and watch the comedy with the bib, this guys who seem to be in charge which i was standing next seems like he was going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in his pants. he saw what was happening traffic at a stand still and the buses couldn't turn into 13/2, it was real stupidlity at its best! surprising he made a decision and open up beach road and the traffic started to flow.
in regards to the fl's, how do anyone expect them work, with the tents one can barely walk let alone sit and wait for customers. i have seen many of the girls walk across to 2nd road and hang around the courtyard of the avenue and further up past soi 6, around soi 5. many of the girls head down to walking st. earlier and ask for higher prices.
this is the longest i have seen them operate usually it is just one weekend but as noted it seem to go on every weekend now. this weekend i'm not sure i was in such a hurry to get inside central festival i didn't notice. the mayor of pattaya which i refer to the inside of sukhumvit has no control over anything. if you live here his only purpose seems to be photo ops and a event planner for such things as trying to drawing tourist to town. he has no control on the police or any of the local utilities offices. this week they laugh at him regarding the jet-ski crackdown which pattaya mail newspaper reported another meeting at city hall which nothing has been done. they have no laws but created regulation they can't or won't enforce. he actually went down a few months ago and scolded the vendors and still nothing has been done. he can't do damn things except plan parties and build tents to attract tourist.
the place is going to hell you just came to town the wrong time. you got to look harder and many are going up to north pattaya the naklua area. plenty of meat up there it has been neglected. girls just sitting around waiting and the price is cheap too?
lbm
Making preperations for my visit coming up in a couple weeks. Was wondering what kind of exchange rate is being given for the US dollar. I recall they paid a higher rate for $50 and $100 dollar bills.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1184709]Making preperations for my visit coming up in a couple weeks. Was wondering what kind of exchange rate is being given for the US dollar. I recall they paid a higher rate for $50 and $100 dollar bills.[/QUOTE]Don't recall exactly, but I was getting top rate for $100 notes in Pattaya last month, think it was 29+. The airport rates suck, just cash in enough until you can hit Beach Road and at one of the exchange shops.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1184620]The place is going to hell you just came to town the wrong time. You got to look harder and many are going up to North Pattaya the Naklua area. Plenty of meat up there it has been neglected. Girls just sitting around waiting and the price is cheap too?
LBM[/QUOTE]Where exactly in North Pattaya are you referring to?
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1184771]Where exactly in North Pattaya are you referring to? [/
Just pass the Dolphin Circle, you can get off the Songthaw if it starts to go back down Beach Road and walk back towards the Woodland resort. This area is never mentioned and as far as I'm concern neglected. There are places to eat and drink and plenty of bars with very few customers, if beer bars are your thing and you want to be the center of attention give it a try?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1184781]
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1184771]Where exactly in North Pattaya are you referring to? [/
Just pass the Dolphin Circle, you can get off the Songthaw if it starts to go back down Beach Road and walk back towards the Woodland resort. This area is never mentioned and as far as I'm concern neglected. There are places to eat and drink and plenty of bars with very few customers, if beer bars are your thing and you want to be the center of attention give it a try?
LBM[/QUOTE]I know of this place, as I used to stay around here. I never saw any girls that I liked. Maybe I was too late, and the pretty girls may already have been barfined. But I know of another cluster of beer bars, which have some nice quality. They are opposite Tiffany's. 2nd Road.
300 bar fine. 1000 for short time
[QUOTE=Butter69; 1184912]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1184781]I know of this place, as I used to stay around here. I never saw any girls that I liked. Maybe I was too late, and the pretty girls may already have been barfined. But I know of another cluster of beer bars, which have some nice quality. They are opposite Tiffany's. 2nd Road.
300 bar fine. 1000 for short time[/QUOTE]Its not a matter of you being too late and everyone has different taste. I was out last week having a pizza at Pizza Big and decided to walk off the meal with a friend before leaving the area. He's into beer bars as we were walking around decided to stop in and I saw personally many that were more than doable but that's me. He ended up staying at the bar and barfine and got the girls for 1000 LT?
Yes there is more beer bars across from Tiffany's haven't try them.
LBM
Hi all just a quick report about my first trip to Pattaya, I'm not much of a writer so please forgive my bad grammer, spelling, etc. Have been looking on this forum for quite a while and it has been invaluable but for some reason when I got there it just all goes out of my head.
Booked a flight with thai airlines for £560 which I thought was great for a direct flight only £60 dearer than a stopover, booked my hotel Sabai lodge on soi 2, have read that you don't need to book just turn up and find a hotel, but I didn't want to chance it being my first trip. Ok down to the main points First night just seemed to walk for miles actually went out in jeans and shoes, that lasted about an hour went back to change with sore feet and sweating badly. Ended up in a bar near my hotel the top of soi2 got talking to an absolutely gorgeous girl, about 22 big breasts cute face, got her some drinks and chatted all night as I got ready to leave she said 'you buy me' and I was so shocked I said no, what a fckin idiot, spent the night alone, was tired though. Me not taking her I think gave me bad karma or something because the next night she wasn't there, anyway went into another bar got chatting to a woman who was all over me, quite big hands. Played pool, I was a bit drunk, a crap band were playing and she gave me a bit of paper to write down a request I put hotel California. Later in the night when we were playing she went over and asked them to play my song again, which I though was nice. Paid the barfine took her back to my hotel I had a shower she didn't I came out the shower she sucked my cock, nice. She didn't get undressed, started get a bit paranoid, and yes it's a bloke. Told her / him to leave, she / he was really pretty so I really didn't feel bad (I'm in no way gay) and I was determined not to let it ruin my holiday. I will add the rest of my report later.
This is my friend from Pattaya
I did post photos befor maybe 2 years ago.
Did text her again to meet up for some fun. Free again.
She has a nice set of tit's
Now pic of her tit's
[QUOTE=Jimbo222;1185611]...Ended up in a bar near my hotel the top of soi2 got talking to an absolutely gorgeous girl, about 22 big breasts cute face, got her some drinks and chatted all night as I got ready to leave she said 'you buy me' and I was so shocked I said no, what a fckin idiot, spent the night alone, was tired though... Me not taking her I think gave me bad karma or something because the next night she wasn't there, anyway went into another bar got chatting to a woman who was all over me, quite big hands... Paid the barfine took her back to my hotel I had a shower she didn't I came out the shower she sucked my cock, nice. She didn't get undressed, started get a bit paranoid, and yes it's a bloke... [/QUOTE]Don't sweat the small stuff, Jimbo.
After all, the gorgeous one the night before might have been a bloke too.
That's Pattaya for you! :)
Good report.
Regards,
Daddy
[QUOTE=Jimbo222;1185611]. Paid the barfine took her back to my hotel I had a shower she didn't I came out the shower she sucked my cock, nice. She didn't get undressed, started get a bit paranoid, and yes it's a bloke. Told her / him to leave, she / he was really pretty so I really didn't feel bad (I'm in no way gay) and I was determined not to let it ruin my holiday. I will add the rest of my report later.[/QUOTE]Good Report Jimbo. Sounds like you dealt with it well. No point in getting upset. What is done is done!
Cheers,
After my disastrous first couple of nights things went from bad to worse, walking along walking street pretty drunk about 3 in the morning, after I had been in various bars, a ladyboy approached me grabbed my cock and what little money I had in my pockets, great I thought. I must have been like a light to a moth because as I continued walking another ladyboy on a bike actually stopped and had a go, she approached me went to grab me I said fuck off I've already been robbed which made me chuckle in my drunken state, to which she retreated, I wasnt scared for my safety at any time though.
Day 4 I thought ok lets regroup. Spent my days in the big see and shopping in the markets. Checked the internet for blow job bars, found the pump station, ok I thought I will have a crack at that. Went down there walked past, couldn't muster the courage to go in, bollocks. I was like that with most of the clubs as well they just looked too daunting. Spent the evening visiting various bars, sat ordered drinks checked out some women made eyes at one, she was pretty about 30 I reckon really shy, whether that is act or what I don't know, got her some drinks, she was shocked that I wanted to buy her a drink, she seamed really genuine and friendly. I said do you want to come with me, getting the hang of it now, she said she doesn't usually go with men, its nice to hear it but its probably not true (I'm not that green) , so back to mine, BBBJ ok, sex ok, had sex twice that night and she had to go about 5, paid her 1000. Things are looking up I thought.
[QUOTE=Jimbo222; 1185890]After my disastrous first couple of nights things went from bad to worse, walking along walking street pretty drunk about 3 in the morning, after I had been in various bars, a ladyboy approached me grabbed my cock and what little money I had in my pockets, great I thought. I must have been like a light to a moth because as I continued walking another ladyboy on a bike actually stopped and had a go, she approached me went to grab me I said fuck off I've already been robbed which made me chuckle in my drunken state, to which she retreated, I wasnt scared for my safety at any time though.
Day 4 I thought ok lets regroup. Spent my days in the big see and shopping in the markets. Checked the internet for blow job bars, found the pump station, ok I thought I will have a crack at that. Went down there walked past, couldn't muster the courage to go in, bollocks. I was like that with most of the clubs as well they just looked too daunting. Spent the evening visiting various bars, sat ordered drinks checked out some women made eyes at one, she was pretty about 30 I reckon really shy, whether that is act or what I don't know, got her some drinks, she was shocked that I wanted to buy her a drink, she seamed really genuine and friendly. I said do you want to come with me, getting the hang of it now, she said she doesn't usually go with men, its nice to hear it but its probably not true (I'm not that green) , so back to mine, BBBJ ok, sex ok, had sex twice that night and she had to go about 5, paid her 1000. Things are looking up I thought.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports.
I know it is hard to believe, but you actually would probably have more fun if you did not drink so much. I have learned some hard lessons, and now totally abstain when I monger in Thailand.
Do what you want though.
[QUOTE=Jimbo222; 1185890]After my disastrous first couple of nights things went from bad to worse, walking along walking street pretty drunk about 3 in the morning, after I had been in various bars, a ladyboy approached me grabbed my cock and what little money I had in my pockets, great I thought. I must have been like a light to a moth because as I continued walking another ladyboy on a bike actually stopped and had a go, she approached me went to grab me I said fuck off I've already been robbed which made me chuckle in my drunken state, to which she retreated, I wasnt scared for my safety at any time though.
Day 4 I thought ok lets regroup. Spent my days in the big see and shopping in the markets. Checked the internet for blow job bars, found the pump station, ok I thought I will have a crack at that. Went down there walked past, couldn't muster the courage to go in, bollocks. I was like that with most of the clubs as well they just looked too daunting. Spent the evening visiting various bars, sat ordered drinks checked out some women made eyes at one, she was pretty about 30 I reckon really shy, whether that is act or what I don't know, got her some drinks, she was shocked that I wanted to buy her a drink, she seamed really genuine and friendly. I said do you want to come with me, getting the hang of it now, she said she doesn't usually go with men, its nice to hear it but its probably not true (I'm not that green) , so back to mine, BBBJ ok, sex ok, had sex twice that night and she had to go about 5, paid her 1000. Things are looking up I thought.[/QUOTE]Interesting reports Jimbo.
For your Soi 2 experience I think there are a number of pretty decent women in this area. But why didn't you mention any of the names of the bars you visited? This would have made your experience more believable. For example did you try 'The Atlantic Bar? ' There are always a few stunners there and I've never seen any ladyboys. In fact I can't remember seeing any ladyboys in this area. BTW, no matter how drunk you are you should be able to realize when you are talking to a guy and when this guy is sucking your dick.
Tough luck being robbed by ladyboys on the Walking Street? There are usually many people around at this time. Didn't anybody see anything? This incident might have been more believable if you said you were robbed walking on the beach side of the beach road close to the entrance of the Walking Street. The beach side of the Beach Road, probably from 100 meters before the entrance to the Walking Street and then right up to the other end, maybe a couple of miles, is an area to take care in late in the evening and early in the morning. Not just from ladyboys. There could be all kinds of dubious characters lurking in the shadows.
For Day 4. So you're checking the internet for a 'Blow Job? ' Which sites are you checking? As for the 'The Pump Station' I'm not sure how many mentions that particular bar gets on this site? Anyway things started to look up in the evening and you found your woman at last. Why didn't you mention where you found her?
Or? Is this just part of an intriguing plot and an exciting prelude to yet another glowing recommendation for something else?
Only joking Jimbo. Sure you don't have another agenda in play here.
Good luck with the rest of your trip.
Got this lady from beach road for S / T.
Shave and photo's 500 THAI BART
Bach road lady.
She was happy for me to shave her. And root for 500 thai bart
22Y from beach road
Thanks Sangkid, it wasnt walking street it was beach road sorry, and it was the beach side between soi 6 and 4 not far from my hotel. I really can't remember the names of the bars I went in so many, just like I can't remember the girls names. I'm coming across as if I hated my trip which is a fair assessmant of my recent posts, but I loved it and can't wait to go back, hopefully in November. I saw a couple of ladyboys trying to pick pocket on beach road. As for me should having known about the ladyboy I took back, yes your right I should have, bells were ringing, but I just plodded on. After that it was lesson learnt.
[QUOTE=Jimbo222;1185890]After my disastrous first couple of nights things went from bad to worse, walking along walking street pretty drunk about 3 in the morning, after I had been in various bars, a ladyboy approached me grabbed my cock and what little money I had in my pockets, great I thought. I must have been like a light to a moth because as I continued walking another ladyboy on a bike actually stopped and had a go, she approached me went to grab me I said fuck off I've already been robbed which made me chuckle in my drunken state, to which she retreated, I wasnt scared for my safety at any time though.[/QUOTE]All you have to do is go to You Tube and type in "Drunks on Walking Street" and you'll understand why you shouldn't get drunk on Walking Street, LOL. You sure it wasn't more like 5 a. M, on a dimly lit side street?
Having your pocket picked as you're getting your cock rubbed is a little different than being robbed as Sangkid suggests. Having your wallet and jewelry taken at gunopoint is being robbed, being force felt on WS is not robbery.
If you are in Pattaya. Don't miss # 15 in Rasputin. Either she is a great actor or very good professional. She condensed the whole GFE experience in 2 hours with no hurry and worry. Great looking too, I would say 7 or 8.
I will post detail trip report when I leave in another couple of days. But wanted to share the wealth as I don't know how long she is going to be around. It was the best session in a Soapy in MHO especially after a robotic session with DD out call.
Also heard a rummer that 5000 US Navy folks left on Wednesday from Pattaya. More options indeed starting Thursday as the season seems to be bit slow. Lucifier was packed yesterday and very lively
Thanks for all in Pattaya forum. Great details / information for a wonderful trip for a newbie in town like me.
Posting it again as previous post aborted. Sorry if it become duplicate.
I BF'd a hottie from Happy a Go Go's Wednesday night (#42) L:7 / A:7. She looked great but was a dead lay. Walking Street was relatively dead that night. Yesterday the returned to normal. Lucifer's, Mixx, and Walking street Club were packed. Lots of hotness at the first two. Picked up a freebie who I had assumed was a hot freelancer. Now normally I wouldn't complain but the freebies typically get emotionally attached or have an agenda. As Mlng mentioned the GW battle group departed yesterday morning. All the poon should heal up in a couple days and be back in rotation.
[QUOTE=Nomadic Mong; 1186223]If you are in Pattaya. Don't miss # 15 in Rasputin. Either she is a great actor or very good professional. She condensed the whole GFE experience in 2 hours with no hurry and worry. Great looking too, I would say 7 or 8.
I will post detail trip report when I leave in another couple of days. But wanted to share the wealth as I don't know how long she is going to be around. It was the best session in a Soapy in MHO especially after a robotic session with DD out call.
Also heard a rummer that 5000 US Navy folks left on Wednesday from Pattaya. More options indeed starting Thursday as the season seems to be bit slow. Lucifier was packed yesterday and very lively
Thanks for all in Pattaya forum. Great details / information for a wonderful trip for a newbie in town like me.
Posting it again as previous post aborted. Sorry if it become duplicate.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
Planning a trip down to pats early next year. Could you guys give me a ballpark estimation on the cost for a 2 week stay?
I'm not expecting it to be over 5k US but just need a rough estimation atm.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Striderani; 1186292]Hey guys,
Planning a trip down to pats early next year. Could you guys give me a ballpark estimation on the cost for a 2 week stay?
I'm not expecting it to be over 5k US but just need a rough estimation atm.
Cheers[/QUOTE]You guys have some interesting questions.
How much will it cost for 2 weeks? For what?
What type of hotel do you like (they can go from $20-$200), how many times a day can you boink, do you drink, do you like great food or Mcdonald's, do you want LT or ST, other activites, etc.
Give us an idea as to what your plan may be and maybe someone can give you an estimate.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1186385]You guys have some interesting questions.
How much will it cost for 2 weeks? For what?
What type of hotel do you like (they can go from $20-$200) , how many times a day can you boink, do you drink, do you like great food or Mcdonald's, do you want LT or ST, other activites, etc.
Give us an idea as to what your plan may be and maybe someone can give you an estimate.[/QUOTE]To Luvpuss.
Yes another newbie dumb question who the hell know what is going happen next year, the USD is dropping fast and Inflation in Thailand cost keep going up who know how much thing will cost next yr. I go to Thailand everyyear and is getting more and more expensive, my first time in Thailand back in 1998 my expense is under 80 USD a day cover hotel, food, girl and tranportation.
Fast Eddie 48
Strider, you could spend three months in Patts for 5G if you live frugally.
If you just stay in comfortable but modest lodgings and don't go out and spend like a high roller or constantly eat in fancy restaurants (which will cause you to be thought of as an idiot by most Thai's) three G's should be plenty.
Try to get out into the country some. Sukhothai or Chiang Mai are interesting side trips and you can get prettier, less mercenary girls for far less money outside of BKK or the other centers.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1186385]Give us an idea as to what your plan may be and maybe someone can give you an estimate.[/QUOTE]Well basically the idea is to be modest the whole time. I don't drink or smoke which keeps a large chunk of cash in my pocket. I'm here for the pussy, I cn get wasted at home.
A nice hotel near the action. Prefferably tv + internet, but nothing fancy.
Planning on getting used to the local food but I'm not sure if I'll like it. I know the western stuff is expensive here. Is Maccas significantly more expensive than the local food?
As for ST or LT, I'm not sure atm. It will be my first trip so I don't know what I'll like. Heh.
Mongering will be the main activity, but a LT girl that shows me around the place, for like a week wouldn't be bad. Might be a good opportunity to visit the countryside. Dunno if I can find a girl like that LOL. Threesomes would be awesome. XD
Had my motorbike helmet stolen last week. 4pm in the afternoon just across from the Penthouse Hotel.
So, if you don't want to have to shell out for a new one, put it under the seat or lock it somewhere.
Funny thing, I have a very big head (xxl) , and it's way too big for any Thai person.
[QUOTE=Striderani; 1186292]Hey guys,
Planning a trip down to pats early next year. Could you guys give me a ballpark estimation on the cost for a 2 week stay?
I'm not expecting it to be over 5k US but just need a rough estimation atm.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Five G's USD, for a two weeks vacation that is more than enough! The key first is your lodging? If you got to have a nice hotel each day that eats up your money for only a few hours of enjoyment then you have to deal with that realility. But if a average clean room for like 750 baht per night for 2 weeks comes out to around (29-1 USD) 10, 500 baht = $362. 00 that leave you lots of other options which you should refer to Luvpuss and Naughty post.
LBM
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1186436]Had my motorbike helmet stolen last week. 4pm in the afternoon just across from the Penthouse Hotel.
So, if you don't want to have to shell out for a new one, put it under the seat or lock it somewhere.
Funny thing, I have a very big head (xxl) , and it's way too big for any Thai person.[/QUOTE]I've been riding a motorbike for over 10 years here and never took the time to lock up my helmet and never had one stolen. Until like you the other week. I usually leave it hanging on the mirror. Done that how many times even across from Beach Road for hours and late into the night. And the helmet I usually wear range from 500 to 700 baht. One evening I parked right outside like always Big C Extra (Formerly Carrefour) had two helmet, my nice 500 baht favorite and a cheap given Mityon both weren't locked just sitting and when we came back my son said helmet is gone? They left the nice one and took the Mityon cheap shit! You got to love this place?
LBM
You must believe this is Pattaya too! May be a wrong forum. But our folks to see there is some thing more to it.
Yesterday had a good time (fully drunk and wondering at 4 AM (today it is I think) with a pickup from BabyDoll and XZone. We had a blast. I am sure to submit the detail trip report later.
Let's see what happens today!
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1183677]I hope you checked her I'd first and took her to McDonald's after.[/QUOTE]Me too. Looks like someone out of a Death Camp.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1184308].Come on pal. Fucking Rockstar? Insatiable, Best Fucks Ever, Best Titty Fuck, Tight Ass. Blaa, Blaa, fucking Blaa. .[/QUOTE]Hilarious, at least you have got attitude dude.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1184473]I wouldn't call that a diamond. Maybe silver at best. All the gems are long gone from beach road these days. The gems are to be found in the expensive bars and gogos. Cheap babes don't exist anymore in Pattaya. Pattaya is for the big spenders now![/QUOTE]Yes old saying "Diamond in the rough". I'd say his specimen is just simply a "rough", needing a good feed, apart from his high protein sperm that is."One of the most humble days of my life" when I saw that pic. For me a skeleton, and sad she has to root with big bodied foreigners, poor girl, literally poor. Amazing what some guys will impregnate, LOL. I hope he does not retort : "Somebody's got to do it" LOL.
[QUOTE=Leggy11;1186453]That puts you in Boys Town Fon Tok? What happens there at 4 in the afternoon? (LOL)[/QUOTE]Funny. Screwing a fag in the arse. What else?
I've seen several mentions before of hookups with DIA girls. Many of them are husband hunting; I was just wondering if anybody has found some successful screening methods to sort out the ones that are just up for an overnighter? Sometimes I might see something subtle written in their profile that might indicate she's up for just a night out and a romp, but it's all pretty subtle. Just wondering if anyone has any success stories on efficient screening techniques?
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Second question regarding DIA: I've seen numerous girls write "open minded" (amongst other things) in their profiles. Now there can be a language barrier, and that could also be a very broad and vague statement. Or it could maybe be code to mean something specific. Anybody have any comments on this?
[QUOTE=Tucker McElroy;1186534]I've seen several mentions before of hookups with DIA girls. Many of them are husband hunting; I was just wondering if anybody has found some successful screening methods to sort out the ones that are just up for an overnighter? Sometimes I might see something subtle written in their profile that might indicate she's up for just a night out and a romp, but it's all pretty subtle. Just wondering if anyone has any success stories on efficient screening techniques?[/QUOTE]Hunt for the older less attractive ones. These girls are more likely to put out right away. Anything young and beautiful is not likely to put out for a foreigner. They are more in it for the attention.
[QUOTE=Tucker McElroy;1186534]Second question regarding DIA: I've seen numerous girls write "open minded" (amongst other things) in their profiles. Now there can be a language barrier, and that could also be a very broad and vague statement. Or it could maybe be code to mean something specific. Anybody have any comments on this?[/QUOTE]The phrase is seen quite a bit in ads {internet, newspapers} by Western world "escorts". Escorts also use dating sites to find customers. So the profiles you refer to were probably written by a hooker, her SO, or pimp. So open minded as in being of a mind to spread her legs wide. Additionally I'd suggest the term "open minded" might also identify the SP as one who does not have a short menu or is willing to negotiate prices for various special activities or to consider and learn about what a customer might have in mind. Not the kind who has many restrictions, refuses to kiss, wants everything covered, etc.
[QUOTE=Striderani; 1186419]Well basically the idea is to be modest the whole time. I don't drink or smoke which keeps a large chunk of cash in my pocket. I'm here for the pussy, I cn get wasted at home.
A nice hotel near the action. Prefferably tv + internet, but nothing fancy.
Planning on getting used to the local food but I'm not sure if I'll like it. I know the western stuff is expensive here. Is Maccas significantly more expensive than the local food?
As for ST or LT, I'm not sure atm. It will be my first trip so I don't know what I'll like. Heh.
Mongering will be the main activity, but a LT girl that shows me around the place, for like a week wouldn't be bad. Might be a good opportunity to visit the countryside. Dunno if I can find a girl like that LOL. Threesomes would be awesome. XD[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.wgfriendly.com/search_girl_friendly_hotels.php?country=Thailand&city=Pattaya[/url]
Book anyone of these GF hotels. Walk around a block or two from anyone of them and there are plenty of girls. Go to Walking Street for more girls, shows, Gogo's. Beach Road. In the evening for FL's. Also, there are 100's of bars all over the place with girls.
There are restaurants everywhere.
Go to Soi 6 for ST quickie (700 girl / 300room).
As far as LT, you just have to ask. Some do and some don't. (They usually always will if you pay enough)
Pats is not as big or overwhelming as some think. You will be able to figure it out in a few hours with some common sense.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1186436]Had my motorbike helmet stolen last week. 4pm in the afternoon just across from the Penthouse Hotel.
So, if you don't want to have to shell out for a new one, put it under the seat or lock it somewhere.
Funny thing, I have a very big head (xxl) , and it's way too big for any Thai person.[/QUOTE]I can't find an XL, where ever did you buy an XXL?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1186635]I can't find an XL, where ever did you buy an XXL?[/QUOTE]In the US. From a Harley shop in Ventura. It was a nice light bucket for traveling. Pisses me off that some rat took it!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1186635]I can't find an XL, where ever did you buy an XXL?[/QUOTE]I bought a big helmet at Big C in Pattaya.
Can't remember the shop. Or if the shop still exist. It was a kind of a army-dumpstore-alike-shop.
Bought a helmet size XL in half shell helmet-style. Like a WOII German helmet.
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It was about 900 THB then.
Back in Pattaya after two weeks. Took plane from Tokyo to BKK, Delta. Driver met me gate three with usual sign "Mr. Popper" "Sunset strip Hotel" (note: there is NO sunset strip hotel, it only a passcode that it the correct person). Official cost to get down was 1000 baht and gave 400 baht tip for not screwing up. Yea I know.
Arrival to hotel was about 2:AM. Unpacked and got room ready. Hotel staff knew me, and they gave me nice room and it quickly set up the way I like, with extra furniture and pillows (for the gal to raise her butt a bit higher). Walked outside the hotel and caught gal walking home from work."Where you work?" I asked. Soi 6. Cool. Her bar started with an O. But do not recall the name. She wanted 800 ST and 1500 LT. High, but I wanted some of that. Gal was 20 years. Pretty too. And with Soi 6 on her resume, I knew she well trained.
Went to hotel. Would not have believed it if I had not seen it myself. Her BJ ability was unimpressive. Perhaps a C+. She soon got tired and complainingly began to ride cow girl. Soon we changed to missionary where she just complained that I was taking so long. I told her it rude to rush me. Anyway, wanted to finish by coming all over her face, but she [b][i]again[/i][/b] whined and complained about Popper-come ruining her makeup, and that if I came over her face that I would have to pay for her to see a beautician. What a damn cuuunt. Anyway I came all over her tits 'and neck. And out the door she went.
Next morning had my breakfast of champions, four eggs and coffee. Walked to Bliss where was in the room on the end (room four I think) where I got a really nice BBBJ and she swallowed entire load. Gal far from young, and not that desirable for that matter, but I needed some star performance. Not in the mood for that bopper crap. Need a woman. After a great time. 600 for room and 300 tip, went to carre four for lunch. Not completely certain but think they changed the name and it now a Big C. Had a ka-bab of some type and did a few rounds of whatever.
Later that day went to Big C round Soi 3, and turned left down on of the side streets. Was tired, but one of those massage shops looked appealing. Cost was 250 for the oily. Gal gave me a hand job and I gave her a generous 500 tip. Thing about HJs is that they leave me generally unsatisfied. Not recommended, at least for myself. Also I have had it where the hand damages Little Popper. Leaves a hole of sort in him, like a small scar and Little Popper may be unusable for a while. Anyway, this HJ was OK and no damage done, but still even though gal did a nice job, I was unsatisfied. Then again, I've had teeth marks from gals BJs too which also impede Little Popper's performance at a later time. Perhaps Little Popper just too sensitive. Dunno.
Quick observation is that the gals on Beach Road look fine. Many look hot. Real hot. Then again, those who know my posts know I have pretty low standards. May grab one soon and post her pic. Think that all to report for the now.
This a pic from my last trip, which was two weeks ago. Gal had a tattoo of a dragon on her back. She extremely sensual. Hot. Erotic. Should have gotten her cell number. Oops. Contacted 'nother gal for tonight. Will call her Miss Anal Queen. Think most readers can figure out why. Pretty hot too. She has not replied to my text yet. Sigh.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
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sounds like mr. popper's pecker is pooped.
Moving In and out and around BK for businesss over the last few weeks, I decided to spend a few weekends in Pat's paradise instead of mongering in BK as usual, thought the low season was given me a better chance for P & P in Pats right now.
One of my best friends lives there for 20 years and called soi 6 his home, I have experienced all this before so I know the game in Soi 6 and surroundings, after a few drinks here and there our better stop was the Pat Bar where I received right away a great BJ from two girls just at the bar corner, they know me from before and I know how they could take the pressure off from my junior, the damage was 700 to the girl and 300 room charge, yes even if you don't go to the next door room or f. K or in the toilet (these rooms are no big deal, yes it's clean but inconvenient ). The shower is a big water drum and girls splashing water over your body, a jungle outdoor experience but OK for once,
2 days later I took the two best blowjob performers from this bar back to my room for ST, a lot more comfortable, my own shower, good airco and more room to play for 90min. Damage was BF 500 and 1000 each, a well spend money and kept these kids on my list for the following weekend.
John Euro
Hi All,
I m travelling to Thailand with my friends (All Bachelor Guys) for the first time.
I was looking for a GF Friendly hotel in Pattaya and found Penthouse hotel. Very unique and intresting. Can someone PM me your Personal exp with the hotel. Be it bad or good. Please share your exp. So that would be helpful.
Thanks,
i was tempted by the nice website from devils den but did not find much extra comments on the several internet blogs, but anyway i was highly interested to figure out what kind of game one could play there.
easy to find in soi diana, past [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and it's just around the corner. opens at 12. 00 till 22. 00.
i walked inside and was greeted by a nice guy from the us, he gave me perfectly all the needed information, they have always around 27 girls available, all bisexual (fake or not?).
i had a drink at the bar and asked for a lineup and on a finger clip, all the 26 girls came in. 5 girls on the left side from the yellow line (non anal part) and all the rest on the right (anal) side. wow, difficult to choose and i took my time, a big variation in model, color and faces, all good looking and mainly with a high rating in my book, some look even better in real than on the website.
i decided to go for a bit of contrast and took both from the right (anal) side, one with blond long hair, not very tall but big boobs and named bobby (turned out to be big fun) and as second girl a very tall one named rain.
try to make the 90 minutes for 3600thb long story short, upstairs next door, a shower together with the girls, new nicely decorated and very clean room, porn movie on the flatscreen, all around mirrors to keep an eye on your own action, a bunch of condoms, all kind of tools and toys ready on the bed for some kinky or anal games you like to play.
great gfe and bj's, participating in there lesbian action and using all holes without any problem, a swivel is attached to the ceiling with a thick rope and a coil spring, the girl places herself in the swivel with both foot in the air, it's adjustable at dick level for easy access in the front & back door, shower afterwards,
must say that both girls have been very polite, gfe and full of action during the whole 90 min. no time wasting or pressure to buy the drinks but of course i gave them a nice tip for the high performance i had received, i paid the bill before i left and i will be back for sure.
john euro
[QUOTE=Chennaizz; 1187407]Hi All,
I was looking for a GF Friendly hotel in Pattaya
Thanks[/QUOTE]Stayed recently a few time in Sabai Lodge in Soi 2, no joiner fee, no questions or girl I'd, girls walking in and out all day long, big pool, driving direction is towards the beach, so its easy to jump on the bath bus and drive till walking street for 10 bath, I paid only 1200 Bath / night for a big room incl ABFS, small room only 850 bath.
John Euro
[QUOTE=Chennaizz; 1187407]Hi All,
I m travelling to Thailand with my friends (All Bachelor Guys) for the first time.
I was looking for a GF Friendly hotel in Pattaya and found Penthouse hotel. Very unique and intresting. Can someone PM me your Personal exp with the hotel. Be it bad or good. Please share your exp. So that would be helpful.
Thanks, [/QUOTE]F. Y. I.
I know there are lots of threads many are just old and useless, but there is a Penthouse Hotel Thread for your convienance to answer your questions.
LBM
I will be back to Pattaya on the 27th. Any of you around that might be up for a drink and swapping some stories let me know. I do have to say, I am getting a bit disappointed with the demise of Pattaya and the lack of talent. Every time I go back, the bars are a bit slower and the girls are less spectacular. I've done everything from go for the disco girls on walking street to getting into what I call the "dirty dirty" of soi 6, and everything in between. Any new ideas for a Pattaya trip from the crowd?
I do have to admit, my last 3 trips I have fine some amazing Russian women on walking street. Now I know a lot of you don't much care for them. They generally are not attractive and ask for entirely to much. To my surprise the last 3 trips, I have found some real diamonds in the muff! Have't paid over 1000baht for my ST from Russia with love. Additionally, the last time I found a true stunner. Thin, tall, long hair, beautiful smile, great body, and a true performer back in the room. I am hoping to get a repeat with her, crossing my fingers she is still there as I still have her number.
Signing off for now, but I will try to give you all some in country reports while I enjoys my very quick 2 weeks in LOS.
[QUOTE=Nomadic Mong; 1186462]You must believe this is Pattaya too! May be a wrong forum. But our folks to see there is some thing more to it.
Yesterday had a good time (fully drunk and wondering at 4 AM (today it is I think) with a pickup from BabyDoll and XZone. We had a blast. I am sure to submit the detail trip report later.
Let's see what happens today!
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]156048[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Looking forward to a report. Thanks very much
Thai me up,
It seems you are more bored than " disappointed with the demise of Pattaya and the lack of talent "
In your own words you got " Disco girls on W. S. Dirty Dirty of Soi 6, everything in between and even Russians on W. S. Even real diamond in the muffs. 1,000 for S. T. For a stunner Russian " it seems you are doing pretty good for a place in demise. Not alot of places in the world you can find that kind of variety in one place and be tie up by a Thai?
I don't think it's Pattaya but you? Maybe a change in plans to another location and then come back to Pattaya years later when it is really in demise?
LBM
[QUOTE=Thai Me Up;1187498]I do have to say, I am getting a bit disappointed with the demise of Pattaya and the lack of talent. Every time I go back, the bars are a bit slower and the girls are less spectacular. I've done everything from go for the disco girls on walking street to getting into what I call the "dirty dirty" of soi 6, and everything in between. Any new ideas for a Pattaya trip from the crowd?[/QUOTE]You're not the only one disappointed! Just try and enjoy it while it lasts. Try to stay positive and focus on the pussy.
[QUOTE=Chennaizz; 1187407]Hi All,
I m travelling to Thailand with my friends (All Bachelor Guys) for the first time.
I was looking for a GF Friendly hotel in Pattaya and found Penthouse hotel. Very unique and intresting. Can someone PM me your Personal exp with the hotel. Be it bad or good. Please share your exp. So that would be helpful.
Thanks, [/QUOTE]I stayed there back in February. Yes, interesting place but I won't recomend it. Expensive if you compare to the price you pay and what you get. You don't need all sex possabilites in-house, they are more expensive compared to what you get elsewhere.
Next time I go I will find a smaller GF hotel and pay much less, like 450-550 BHT per night. Take a look at [url]http://www.hassescafe.com/index.php?page=2[/url] (site in Swedish but you can send them an email). Across the street is a BJ Bar, almost as having the services in-house as at Penthouse but paying a fraction.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Frankypanky; 1186653]I bought a big helmet at Big C in Pattaya.
Can't remember the shop. Or if the shop still exist. It was a kind of a army-dumpstore-alike-shop.
Bought a helmet size XL in half shell helmet-style. Like a WOII German helmet.
[url]http://www.scooterkingofcali.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Image1.jpg[/url]
It was about 900 THB then.[/QUOTE]I hope you got one of the good ones, like this one I saw at Testicle Scrotus about 5 years ago:
[QUOTE=Thai Me Up; 1187498]I will be back to Pattaya on the 27th. Any of you around that might be up for a drink and swapping some stories let me know. I do have to say, I am getting a bit disappointed with the demise of Pattaya and the lack of talent. Every time I go back, the bars are a bit slower and the girls are less spectacular. I've done everything from go for the disco girls on walking street to getting into what I call the "dirty dirty" of soi 6, and everything in between. Any new ideas for a Pattaya trip from the crowd?
I do have to admit, my last 3 trips I have fine some amazing Russian women on walking street. Now I know a lot of you don't much care for them. They generally are not attractive and ask for entirely to much. To my surprise the last 3 trips, I have found some real diamonds in the muff! Have't paid over 1000baht for my ST from Russia with love. Additionally, the last time I found a true stunner. Thin, tall, long hair, beautiful smile, great body, and a true performer back in the room. I am hoping to get a repeat with her, crossing my fingers she is still there as I still have her number.[/QUOTE]Well, sound's like you can't make up your mind. First you're talking down on this trip, when it hasn't even started. Second, your "last 3 trips" sound pretty recommendable to others. Why don't you wait until this trip is over then give us your conclusion? Maybe you've been there too many times and the lust has worn off, like with your third wife. I've been waiting for my second visit to Pattaya for almost a year now, which is only two weeks away now. This is MY new playground, so you can take your ball and go home!
[quotenext time i go i will find a smaller gf hotel and pay much less, like 450-550 bht per night. take a look at.
[url]http://www.hassescafe.com/index.php?page=2[/url]
(site in swedish but you can send them an email). across the street is a bj bar, almost as having the services in-house as at penthouse but paying a fraction.
good luck![/quote]
place doesn't look too bad for the price and location. anyone ever stay here?
i translated the home page:
we have six rooms, three are large rooms with combined living room and bedroom, we have a room on the second floor which is to rely less and two rooms on the top floor of the bedroom to the back and with a smaller living room.
all our rooms have private bath, king-size beds, air conditioning, refrigerator with mini bar, wifi internet connection at broadband speed, 21 inch cable tv with bbc and other international channels.
the price is 550 baht per night for the big rooms and 450 baht per night for smaller rooms. a / c tilkommer at 5 baht per unit. do you stay a month or more, and prepay discount we present the room rate by 75 and 50 baht per night.
[QUOTE=Tucker McElroy;1187641]I hope you got one of the good ones, like this one I saw at Testicle Scrotus about 5 years ago:[/QUOTE]I have two of these helmets, being Thailand with all the unproven decarations that everything is the best and without any consumer enforcement program it is hard to know or prove in this case if it is the best?
Reason I have two is one for me and another was given to me for compensation. Although they are good, riding around in Pattaya it is hot and with the full shield I hardly get any air when the shield is down. And if your eyes have problem with the sun and need to protect them with the full coverage you can't wear any type of eye protective ware. Although the plastic shield comes dark it doesn't protect your eyes from the UV rays at all but does a good job if you ride at night from the big bugs smacking you in the face or eye. The biggest negative is that these helmets shields are very hard to find replacement shields once they break or get scratch and they do get scratch easily since the design and retaining screws aren't standard.
Just get yourself something in the mid-range with a common shield replacement that you can find at most helmet shops. Drive safely and you got nothing to worry about?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1187666]I have two of these helmets, being Thailand with all the unproven decarations that everything is the best and without any consumer enforcement program it is hard to know or prove in this case if it is the best?[/QUOTE]Of course, the joke on those photos was that in proclaiming the best quality, they spelled "quality" wrong. (qualirty) Ironic and an immediate credibility issue!
On the broader issue though of "unproven declarations," have you[I] Ever [/I]seen [I]any[/I] Electrical appliance with an energy saver sticker, that [I]is not[/I] A "5"?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1187666]Just get yourself something in the mid-range with a common shield replacement that you can find at most helmet shops. Drive safely and you got nothing to worry about?
LBM[/QUOTE]I just brought one back with me when I last visited the home country. Got what I like, with some spare face shields.
One of my regulars just told me that lots of hotels in Pattaya won't allow girls in that are under 20yo. Most of the ones she noted were upscale places like Hard Rock and Amari, but she did mention that some mid-range places are starting to following suit.
Moon club on Walking street has several girls that are barfinable for only 2k(barfine). If that is too much than you can take the lower rung ones for only 800(barfine). What a deal eh?
[QUOTE=Tucker McElroy; 1187670]Of course, the joke on those photos was that in proclaiming the best quality, they spelled "quality" wrong. (qualirty) Ironic and an immediate credibility issue!
On the broader issue though of "unproven declarations," have you[I] Ever [/I]seen [I]any[/I] Electrical appliance with an energy saver sticker, that [I]is not[/I] A "5"?
I just brought one back with me when I last visited the home country. Got what I like, with some spare face shields.[/QUOTE]Thanks for pointing that out to me because it just went over my head. Your right about those stickers for appilances everything you see is marked 5, when I purchased my full size refrigerator my utility bill jumped 800 baht a month.
In Pattaya, for helmet like the one you are talking about the young boys are cutting the straps to get the helmet so take it with you.
LBM
Day 1.
After 25 hour trip, landed in Sea Me Spring. The hotel messed up the pickup but quickly fixed after 1 hour wait.
Coming in to Pattaya at 2 AM not ideal but the hotel's room boy arranged a wonderful massage to get rid of all aches and pain. A good looking girl turned up and did a very good massage and refused for any thing beyond. That a surprise start at Pattaya. One of the best massages I have had and no complains at all. If you need her contact detail for a very good massage, PM me. When I asked for more service, she said even for 5000 B, she wouldn't do the short time. I didn't want to push her further.
Later that day called our man John in DD and got Guy. The best part of DD as many of you know, the professional way John is running the operation. Believe me, Guy came up a actual printed bill for me to (may be for claiming in my expense report ). However, the session was very mechanical. She has all the tricks which DD is famous for, however in MHO, well used, production line experience. I don't want give up on DD as they serve a purpose of overall Pattaya experience. I will try them latter with some new person later.
Didn't venture out more as I heard US Army has invaded Pattaya's ground during that week.
Day 2.
Went to Rasputin. Picked up #15. It turned out to be an unbelievable experience. My luck indeed. Either she is a good actor or a very good professional, she has condensed so much emotion in the session, I keep pinching myself to believe it. It was so intense, I couldn't come even after 2 hour session with various acts. Said thank you and left.
After that session, I didn't think it is going to get any better, went to hotel for sleep. But couldn't. Called our Dreem Teen and asked for a outcall at 10:30 PM. Got Teamgmo. Had a good session. Considering 12 midnight is her shift end, asked her to go out with me to Walking Street. It turned about to be blast. She took me to Angle Witch and saw the act. I willn't be able to hear any more violin in my life any more without thinking about an act where she fiddles on her body. I strongly recommend this place. Then went to Baccara. Good looking girls but nothing more. Then went to Lucifer and danced all night before returning back to room. Strongly recommend Teamgmo or what ever her name was. She is smart and ready to enjoy the life without any typical baby, grandma, money, poor talk. Here is her picture.
Day 3.
I didn't know how to make a better day than yesterday. To top it, I have to do some thing weird. I have heard about lesbo action in Baby Dolls and X Zone. Want to mix them and see how it goes. Went to Baby Dolls and lot of lollipops and lemon sequence sessions going on. While having a lollipop, picked up Mot, a most lesbo I could see in action and bar fined her. Told her we will do some more bar hunting. Took her to XZone. Oh! What a session. Got Ooo on the table and both the girls turned the heat on. Few others joined. It went on for a hour with various session. Those who had been to XZone would know Ooo is one of the best dancer in XZone. Bar fined Ooo and said let's party more.
Believe me, with two hot girls in hand went to various bars. Ooo can't sit hearing music where ever we went. In few places both the girls started dancing on the tables where rest of the bar girls just sat and watched. This is the Pattaya I always dreamed off and had one to top yesterday.
Came back to hotel at 4 30 AM and slept at 6 30 AM. What a day
Day 4.
Mot slept in the room until 6 PM. Considering this was my last day in Pattaya, I want to give another chance to DD before forming any opinion. Asked John and too a newbie Jenna. Turned out to be great person as she is eager to get trained. If our fellow friends in this forum can help train her, in few months, she will certainly become a Cake or Dar.
Went back to X Zone to thank mamasan for yesterday's help. For any one who like to go to XZone, mamasan in XZone is a wonderful wonderful person. She takes care of the girls so much, these girls are attached to her. Once again had a good time in XZone. Went to Windmill, not my taste and felt it is very small. Went to What's Up. Acts are elaborate but I felt it encourages Japanese than any one else. So left that place soon.
Overall, it was a great experience. After such fun full days, heading to Siem Reap to absolve then heading to Angles (AC) for few days.
Once again, thanks a lot for all forum members. Without your insights, I wouldn't not had such fun. If any one coming to Germany and wants some help with FKK, just PM me.
[QUOTE=Thai Me Up; 1187498]I will be back to Pattaya.
I do have to admit, my last 3 trips I have fine some amazing Russian women on walking street. Now I know a lot of you don't much care for them. They generally are not attractive and ask for entirely to much. To my surprise the last 3 trips, I have found some real diamonds in the muff! Have't paid over 1000baht for my ST from Russia with love. Additionally, the last time I found a true stunner. Thin, tall, long hair, beautiful smile, great body, and a true performer back in the room. I am hoping to get a repeat with her, crossing my fingers she is still there as I still have her number.[/QUOTE]If you don't find good talent in Pats, you don't find it nowhere, maybe my ratings between zero and ten are a bit wrong but I had a lot of great looking girls above 7, if not a 9 on the sheets over the last few weeks in Pats and don't forget, it's still half the price from Phuket.
On the Russian part, I am not in LOS to bang Russians but my friend loves Russians, he has been chatting in walking street with at least 15 Russian girls on different evenings, asking the right questions right away (they are mainly all from Ukraine) , there was no way to take them out for ST or LT, even not in their private morning time, not allowed from their boss or organization, even a good money did not worked the right way, so lucky you.
John
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1187713]One of my regulars just told me that lots of hotels in Pattaya won't allow girls in that are under 20yo. Most of the ones she noted were upscale places like Hard Rock and Amari, but she did mention that some mid-range places are starting to following suit.[/QUOTE]Yes, this has a good reason, hotels mgr. Don't want to run in to trouble, lot's of girls from beach road have a fake I'd and are under 16, so be careful with them. I was trying to take a stunner from Fahrenheit for LT but mamas an told me that they are only 16 and could not go for LT, pointed at another one and same story.
Police did a raid on beach Road recently and not many girls walking around last week.
John
[QUOTE=Nomadic Mong; 1187896]Day 3.
Believe me, with two hot girls in hand went to various bars. Ooo can't sit hearing music where ever we went. In few places both the girls started dancing on the tables where rest of the bar girls just sat and watched. This is the Pattaya I always dreamed off and had one to top yesterday.
Came back to hotel at 4 30 AM and slept at 6 30 AM. What a day[/QUOTE]Nicely played by you. Find the cream of crop at the different bars. You prevented that age old problem of having a cutie and then being stuck with her mediocre friend.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1187642]Well, sound's like you can't make up your mind. First you're talking down on this trip, when it hasn't even started. Second, your "last 3 trips" sound pretty recommendable to others. Why don't you wait until this trip is over then give us your conclusion? Maybe you've been there too many times and the lust has worn off, like with your third wife. I've been waiting for my second visit to Pattaya for almost a year now, which is only two weeks away now. This is MY new playground, so you can take your ball and go home![/QUOTE]Nixon. Glad you are making your way back to Pattaya. Don't be so sensitive though. I've been going to Pattaya for many years now. So while you are on trip 2, I am pushing trip 20 something. The one thing I've learned about Pattaya is it is always changing. Bars open and close. And new areas get developed. When I first started going, Walking Street was only half the size, Drinking Street didn't exist, and only the seasoned vets knew about Boukaw and the joints on the other side of 3rd Road and beyond. So as many times as I go, there is always something new to experience. So don't get my words twisted. My goal is to see if there is some off the beaten path spots out there some of the vets would like to share besides the usual suspects.
But rest assured, this is still MY playground, so both of my balls will be staying put. Honestly, instead of giving me grief, you should be asking some questions that might make your trip a bit more enjoyable, especially since we will be there around the same time. Not trying to sound like a know it all, cause I don't, but I am always willing to share what I do know. So check your tone next time, and if there is something you do want to know just ask me and I will be happy to answer.
TMU
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1187585]Thai me up,
It seems you are more bored than " disappointed with the demise of Pattaya and the lack of talent "
In your own words you got " Disco girls on W. S. Dirty Dirty of Soi 6, everything in between and even Russians on W. S. Even real diamond in the muffs. 1,000 for S. T. For a stunner Russian " it seems you are doing pretty good for a place in demise. Not alot of places in the world you can find that kind of variety in one place and be tie up by a Thai?
I don't think it's Pattaya but you? Maybe a change in plans to another location and then come back to Pattaya years later when it is really in demise?
LBM[/QUOTE]Wow, you guys sure are super sensitive about Pattaya. Look fellas. If I have offended anyone's love for Pattaya, I do truly apologize! Take a moment and ask anyone who has been going there for years, and I am sure they will share the same observation. Things have gotten a much slower, there aren't as many girls, nor are there as many stunners, and it keeps getting more expensive. Those are the facts. Now, is that an attempt to insult Pattaya, like it seems some of you believe, I don't think so. It is what it is. Still we all keep going year after year, because even at its worst there is no place on the planet like it.
So it is not me fellas, it is Pattaya, and if you have been going there as long as I have, there is no way you could disagree with me. As great as it is today, it is nothing compared to when I first started going. Back when the baht was 40:1 USD, and the bars were packed and walking street and soi 8 were overflowing with people every night. You don't see that anymore. Maybe a few times a week tops. Even in low season, the place seemed like it was going to burst at the seams.
You are right, LBM, I have nothing to complain about. I've always done very well in Pattaya, and hopefully always will. Still, it never hurts to get suggestions for new spots IN Pattaya, that are less known. As I have learned over the years, there are a lot of places you can go to in Pattaya and on the out skirts of Pattaya, that you will never know about, unless you ask!
TMU
Thai me up,
I'm certainly not sensitive but rather I believe its you. You wrote a report but that report I read seems a contradiction? You said this and that but in spite you are still coming? And rightfully so it is your choice and it doesn't matter if Pattaya is changing. In reality we are the ones changing it whether we want to omit it or not.
Pattaya is a fun place and people come here have a great time and expect it to stand still when they go home and when they decide to come back start right back up where they left off. Life is unfair and time doesn't stand still for anyone or anyplace it just doesn't happen. I stay in Pattaya for many reason but mostly because of the access to the ocean (dirty of not) I'm sure it was crystal clear at one time in Pattaya, things change sometimes and not for the better. Even in your own words you admit that but then put yourself out there and contradict yourself by writting how great a time you had. I'm not insulted just wondering what you want? It is you, yes Pattaya is changing we can't stop it but you on the other hand got to except that fact that time hasn't stood still for you. When you do that forget the past and try to experience the new whether it is good or bad and if each trip just can't live up to your original expectation you will look for a new destination and when you do you might have a great experience but when you return certainly you will not be able to duplicate it again. That is life and the sooner you know this the sooner you will start to have a good time again or move on.
The first time I came to Thailand, I stayed in Bangkok, I hated it with a passion, everything look dark and dirty couldn't see anything or where you were located. Felt everyone was out to get me. Then I found Pattaya and years later I return to Bangkok, I got a fresh perpective, was it Bangkok no it was me? Not I enjoy taking the bus from time to time to visit. Has it change yes! So have I? Girls change and age and maybe you ought to look in the mirror to see more wrinkles and less of a hairline I'm sure the girls might be thinking your not as handsome as the last time? But as long as you pay who cares?
Have a good or great or bad time in Pattaya but don't blame Pattaya blame yourself for expecting too much?
LBM
So I will take the cab to Pattaya and I think I'll probably being arriving at my hotel around midnight to 1 AM. Where should I head first? (first time in Pattaya. Been to Bangkok once).
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1188220]So I will take the cab to Pattaya and I think I'll probably being arriving at my hotel around midnight to 1 AM. Where should I head first? (first time in Pattaya. Been to Bangkok once).[/QUOTE]Walking street should still be happening, at that time.
[QUOTE=Thai Me Up;1188122]Take a moment and ask anyone who has been going there for years, and I am sure they will share the same observation. Things have gotten a much slower, there aren't as many girls, nor are there as many stunners, and it keeps getting more expensive. Those are the facts.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, however, it's best to remain positive and ride out the remaining tid bits that are left in Pattaya. Everything changes. At least there is still a place in the world like Pattaya. Nowhere else in the world can you find so much pussy for sale in such a small place, even though most of it is crap. Pattaya is in a decline, there is no argument there. Try and have as much fun and as many affordable fucks as you can while it's still there. Cheers.
[QUOTE=DrPecker;1188269]Walking street should still be happening, at that time.[/QUOTE]Can you recommend any specific bars or can't miss places?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1188161]Thai me up,
I'm certainly not sensitive but rather I believe its you. You wrote a report but that report I read seems a contradiction? You said this and that but in spite you are still coming? And rightfully so it is your choice and it doesn't matter if Pattaya is changing. In reality we are the ones changing it whether we want to omit it or not.
LBM[/QUOTE]If you think my report is contradictory, then obviously you didn't properly understand the point that was being made. Focus less on the specific words and more on the message, and maybe you will understand a bit more. Focusing on my style of writing and less on the point being made really is not a productive approach. There is nothing you said about Pattaya I don't agree with, so you've got no disagreement from me about your feelings on Pattaya. Still, I have no clue what your complaint is beyond a misguided interpretation of what I said. Doesn't seem like you disagree with my assessment of what has been happening in Pattaya. So a silly lecture from you based on a misunderstanding of my words doesn't mean a lot. It is kinda like crap in crap out. I honestly find the whole sensitivity you seem to have with my statement silly. BUT, it is what it is. Not my concern and it has no value to me, so I will let it go. Hope you can turn the dial down a bit and do the same.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1188220]So I will take the cab to Pattaya and I think I'll probably being arriving at my hotel around midnight to 1 AM. Where should I head first? (first time in Pattaya. Been to Bangkok once).[/QUOTE]Lets start with where are you staying?
LBM
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1188275]Can you recommend any specific bars or can't miss places?[/QUOTE]Since its your first time, I'd suggest checking out as many as you can to see what you like.
Personally, if barhopping on walking street, I prefer sticking to these: Airport, Peppermint, Alcatraz, Happy, Whats Up, Superbaby, Baby Dolls.
Also if you notice the girls started to thin out in the gogos (which can happen by 1am) , then head to the discos (Climax & Insomnia) there will be talent in and around there for sure.
[QUOTE=John Euro; 1187956]Yes, this has a good reason, hotels mgr. Don't want to run in to trouble, lot's of girls from beach road have a fake I'd and are under 16, so be careful with them. I was trying to take a stunner from Fahrenheit for LT but mamas an told me that they are only 16 and could not go for LT, pointed at another one and same story.
Police did a raid on beach Road recently and not many girls walking around last week.
John[/QUOTE]W00t? Have to say I haven't seen everything but I think in the last 4 years I been walking the coconut bar. I seen one under 18. I think. I know that as she wasn't let into my hotel on soi8. As the rule. 20yo or older, then ok.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1188220]So I will take the cab to Pattaya and I think I'll probably being arriving at my hotel around midnight to 1 AM. Where should I head first? (first time in Pattaya. Been to Bangkok once).[/QUOTE]Do you just want to F--k. If so, I would go to Beach Road and pickup one of the many FL's there at that time. Cheaper and not all the BS of those bars.
Sorry, I know that this is a rather elementary question but I haven't been to Thailand in a while. I can't remember what it is normal to tip: 20 baht? 40 baht?
Last time I visited a Go-Go Bar in Bangkok, I didn't want to offend by giving too little so I gave the mamasan 100 baht. She was quite pleased with this amount and hooked me up with a very nice lady. Later on the lady asked me why I gave mamasan so much."That is too much", she said. I've been spending a lot of time in Europe & Latin America. Not to mention enjoying some P4P in my native lands in North America. So my concept of pricing is a bit skewed.
Returning to the LOS soon, this time will hit Pattaya.
- DSK
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick; 1188438]Sorry, I know that this is a rather elementary question but I haven't been to Thailand in a while. I can't remember what it is normal to tip: 20 baht? 40 baht?
Last time I visited a Go-Go Bar in Bangkok, I didn't want to offend by giving too little so I gave the mamasan 100 baht. She was quite pleased with this amount and hooked me up with a very nice lady. Later on the lady asked me why I gave mamasan so much."That is too much", she said. I've been spending a lot of time in Europe & Latin America. Not to mention enjoying some P4P in my native lands in North America. So my concept of pricing is a bit skewed.
Returning to the LOS soon, this time will hit Pattaya.
- DSK[/QUOTE]Better yet, sit down with her and buy her a drink. They like the attention just like any other of the girls. And it opens up conversation, thus, you gather intell on many of the girls.
[QUOTE=Thai Me Up;1187498]. I do have to say, I am getting a bit disappointed with the demise of Pattaya and the lack of talent. Every time I go back, the bars are a bit slower and the girls are less spectacular.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Thai Me Up;1188119]… I've been going to Pattaya for many years now. So while you are on trip 2, I am pushing trip 20 something…[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Thai Me Up;1188122]Take a moment and ask anyone who has been going there for years, and I am sure they will share the same observation. Things have gotten a much slower, there aren't as many girls, nor are there as many stunners, and it keeps getting more expensive. Those are the facts… So it is not me fellas, it is Pattaya, and if you have been going there as long as I have, there is no way you could disagree with me…[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Amjeck;1188271]Pattaya is in a decline, there is no argument there.[/QUOTE]Are you two guys sure that it's Pattaya in a decline; or is it possible that it's you yourselves in a decline? After 20 plus trips you are undoubtedly getting old.
For my part, I didn't discover Pattaya until I was 60 years old, so I can assure you that, as an old guy I'm in a decline, but I've lived here 4 years now and the place just gets better and better, even as the US dollar has fallen drastically against the Thai baht in that time, making everything more expensive that it used to be.
Pretty young girls are arriving on the bus from Isaan every day, fresh from the farm and ready to satisfy every taste. New stunners are showing up in the go-go bars all the time and I haven't even explored all of Walking Street yet, let alone the rest of what Pattaya has to offer. My only problem is that I'm getting more than I can handle.
A guy can still have the best of the best of these Thai sweethearts – I'm talking about beautiful young girls, for about $65 USD, and cute young girls can still be had for as little as $16. You just can't beat that anywhere in the world.
Maybe you two have simply had too much of a good thing and have become jaded with unreasonable expectations.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1188473]Maybe you two have simply had too much of a good thing and have become jaded with unreasonable expectations.[/QUOTE]If you ever watched the classic surfing movie "The Endless Summer" whenever they got to a new place and the waves were just so-so they would always be told "you should have been here yesterday"
Well I guess the same can be said for anywhere, but just like they surfed what was there that day so do we and look forward to a New day and better waves. Or new farm fresh TGs.
Its all how you look at it.
BK
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1188473]A guy can still have the best of the best of these Thai sweethearts – I'm talking about beautiful young girls, for about $65 USD, and cute young girls can still be had for as little as $16. You just can't beat that anywhere in the world.
Maybe you two have simply had too much of a good thing and have become jaded with unreasonable expectations.[/QUOTE]I think you are content with Pattaya and that is good. More negativity has arisen in the Pattaya section recently by lots of members. Is that just coincidence? I don't think so.
Beautiful young girls used to be available for less than $30 and they were everywhere, not just in gogos. And yah, gogo girls never used to ask for 2000-2500ST until about 2-3 years ago.
I'm not saying Pattaya sucks, but it certainly has less abundant YOUNG, CHEAP girls than ever before. Of course there are still beautiful girls about but there aren't so many in the CHEAP bracket. So if one has lots of money to spend Pattaya is still good.
If one likes young sexy girls for CHEAP, then Pattaya is not so good anymore.
If you want to disprove that then, please feel free to post all your photos of hot young pussy (no mothers) under 20yo that you fucked in the 500-800ST range in the last 3 months.
Again, you are content and that is cool. Many people are happy with todays Pattaya, but to say that Pattaya is not in a state of decline for SERIOUS mongers is incorrect.
Daddy07,
You're experience mean nothing to those that come and go and visit for a short time no matter how many times they come here because they are cut for time they are always on the go trying to get as much as they can with the limited amount of time they have here. In the end what many of them don't understand is the word " Expectation " so they blame it on Pattaya and note that we are being sensitive but in fact all we are doing is reading their post and pointing out within their own reports the contradiction.
We who live here have the time of our lives even though their culture and driving can get to you. But we are never in a hurry so when one slows down you tend to see better even though our eyesight are going? Its like a college football player going from college to the Pros. The game is faster the players bigger and faster but once you get adjusted you see the game better and understand it.
I keep on hearing these same statements where ones experience is now " Fact " because of one person experience " there is no way it can be disputed " Pattaya is in decline there is no argument there " and this might be coming from guys that are business successful, maybe CEO / CFO more money that you and I have together educated individuals who normally in the real world would question or fire a individual that uses these type of reasoning for their opinions in a board room. Mongering is really funny that the small head can have such a domination over reasonable thinking.
I love Swenson ice cream, I have been going to Swenson over 20 times but each time I go back the place seems a bit slower and the girls that once serve me look less spectacular. Ask any other patron who has been going to Swenson for years and I'm sure they will share the same observation. Those are the facts it's not me fellas its Swenson, and if you have been going there as long as I have there is no way you could disagree with me! Swenson is in decline there is no argument there since I counted the chip in my chocolate chip order and found that there are no longer 50 chips in each cup and that the chips now are fatter and less dark. Swenson is causing Pattaya to decline. But when I want chocolate chip I'm going back to Swenson in spite of everything and if you question this you are being too sensitive about Swenson.
LBM
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1188492]If one likes young sexy girls for CHEAP, then Pattaya is not so good anymore.
If you want to disprove that then, please feel free to post all your photos of hot young pussy (no mothers) under 20yo that you fucked in the 500-800ST range in the last 3 months.
Again, you are content and that is cool. Many people are happy with todays Pattaya, but to say that Pattaya is not in a state of decline for SERIOUS mongers is incorrect.[/QUOTE]Glad that is not my demographic. I like my women 25 and up and I could give a shit if they are mothers or not. So for me it is paradise from Free - 1000 Baht LT.
In 1978, there were only dirt roads in Pattaya and I used get the finest ass for 3 US dollars! So, I guess everyone is correct, Pattaya is on the decline!
Please, stop the fucking whining! Rent, food, and utilities are higher, thus, things cost more.
I will challenge anyone to tell me where in the world that has better venues and lower costs than Pattaya. I'll wait for your experienced answer.
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick; 1188438]Sorry, I know that this is a rather elementary question but I haven't been to Thailand in a while. I can't remember what it is normal to tip: 20 baht? 40 baht?
Last time I visited a Go-Go Bar in Bangkok, I didn't want to offend by giving too little so I gave the mamasan 100 baht. She was quite pleased with this amount and hooked me up with a very nice lady. Later on the lady asked me why I gave mamasan so much."That is too much", she said. I've been spending a lot of time in Europe & Latin America. Not to mention enjoying some P4P in my native lands in North America. So my concept of pricing is a bit skewed.
Returning to the LOS soon, this time will hit Pattaya.
- DSK[/QUOTE]Why do you need Mamasan? Walk into a bar and if you see a girl you like ask her to come over, if you hit it off, you BF her and off you go. If you want to tip Mamasan do so but there are no rules on tipping them because most people don't use them so tip what you feel comfortable with and can afford.
[quote=daddy07; 1188473]are you two guys sure that it's pattaya in a decline; or is it possible that it's you yourselves in a decline? after 20 plus trips you are undoubtedly getting old.
for my part, i didn't discover pattaya until i was 60 years old, so i can assure you that, as an old guy i'm in a decline, but i've lived here 4 years now and the place just gets better and better, even as the us dollar has fallen drastically against the thai baht in that time, making everything more expensive that it used to be.
pretty young girls are arriving on the bus from isaan every day, fresh from the farm and ready to satisfy every taste. new stunners are showing up in the go-go bars all the time and i haven't even explored all of walking street yet, let alone the rest of what pattaya has to offer. my only problem is that i'm getting more than i can handle.
a guy can still have the best of the best of these thai sweethearts – i'm talking about beautiful young girls, for about $65 usd, and cute young girls can still be had for as little as $16. you just can't beat that anywhere in the world.
maybe you two have simply had too much of a good thing and have become jaded with unreasonable expectations.[/quote]to daddy,
i am in pattaya now for 5 days and i been coming here every year since 1995 and i agree is in a decline every thing cost alot more than it use to and the girl quality
is way down, it become more commerical with big mall but it is still a bargin compare to bkk where price is so high i only stay one night there and the usd to bht is
down to 29. 5 bht to one usd, the bar girl at soi 6 now want 2000 bht for lt and 600 barfine and that is a outrage but bbbj at the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] is still 700 bht with bee last.
night that is still a bargin.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1188492]If one likes young sexy girls for CHEAP, then Pattaya is not so good anymore.
If you want to disprove that then, please feel free to post all your photos of hot young pussy (no mothers) under 20yo that you fucked in the 500-800ST range in the last 3 months. [/QUOTE]
Ok, so you're a cheap Charlie, Amjeck, and $16 is just way too expensive for you now. I understand that. You want movie star quality LT for $3, right?
I can't count the number of times you have challenged members on this board to post photos of the hot girls they found so that you can put them down, but where are all your photos of the CHEAP CHEAP stunners you've fucked in Pattaya in the olden days for 300 baht?
I've not seen any.
Post them and I promise I won't be critical. Honest!
The pictures of my dog I posted a few days ago are far better looking than your photos, or should I say: lack of photos.
Here are a few photos of the most beautiful woman who ever lived on planet earth in my humble opinion. Go ahead and criticize them if you like.
This is my idea of beautiful. What's yours?
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1188516]To Daddy,
I am in Pattaya now for 5 days and I been coming here every year since 1995 and I agree is in a decline every thing cost alot more than it use to.[/QUOTE]I bought a brand new car at a dealership in the USA one time for $1, 750.
You're right, Fast Eddie. The cost of everything has gone up -- way up, but Pattaya Thailand is still the best venue in the world for quality pussy and relatively inexpensive prices.
In the 5 years I've known Pattaya, I've not observed any decline in the quality of the girls. Yes, it's more expensive, but compared to everywhere else, it's still cheap.
Street Walkers in Las Vegas were getting $100 per pop in the early 1970's.
Beach road girls, many of whom are cute, are still asking $16.
Any way you slice it in my mind, Pattaya Thailand is paradise on earth.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1188516]I am in Pattaya now for 5 days and I been coming here every year since 1995 and I agree is in a decline every thing cost alot more than it use to and the girl Quality Is way down.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]FastEddie,
Yes, you are right that everything in Pattaya costs a lot more than in 1995. BUT, isn't EVERWHERE more expensive now than it was then!
I don't know about you but I am CERTAINLY earning a LOT MORE than I was in '95!
'Quality down? ' Hmmmmm, I still believe that, if you are willing to invest time looking that you can find almost everything in Pattaya from 'Girl next door' types to 'Playboy quality! '
Everything is relative and, in MY opinion, Pattaya still offers one of the best 'value for money' experiences anywhere in the world!
Anyway, we can not change it. It "is what it is!" So Just ENJOY,
I do.
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1188503]In 1978, there were only dirt roads in Pattaya and I used get the finest ass for 3 US dollars! So, I guess everyone is correct, Pattaya is on the decline!
Please, stop the fucking whining! Rent, food, and utilities are higher, thus, things cost more.
I will challenge anyone to tell me where in the world that has better venues and lower costs than Pattaya. I'll wait for your experienced answer.[/QUOTE]Funny how the complainers, keep going back, LOL. If you don't like it in Pattaya, move on!
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1188543]I bought a brand new car at a dealership in the USA one time for $1, 750.
You're right, Fast Eddie. The cost of everything has gone up. Way up, but Pattaya Thailand is still the best venue in the world for quality pussy and relatively inexpensive prices.
In the 5 years I've known Pattaya, I've not observed any decline in the quality of the girls. Yes, it's more expensive, but compared to everywhere else, it's still cheap.
Street Walkers in Las Vegas were getting $100 per pop in the early 1970's.
Beach road girls, many of whom are cute, are still asking $16.
Any way you slice it in my mind, Pattaya Thailand is paradise on earth.[/QUOTE]Awesome comments. You are right on.
PS: I use to get free rooms and food for a week in Vegas in the 70's. Look at it now.
I have to agree with Daddy07 and Tomjackin on this.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1188503]In 1978, there were only dirt roads in Pattaya and I used get the finest ass for 3 US dollars![/QUOTE]Wish I had been there in '78. Aside from Pat, Phuket was an unspoiled paradise (no large hotels) and BKK Patpong all nighters were $5. I know because I have close friends that were doing it. In the 70' & '80's, I travelled Central and South America and it was pretty amazing there too. San Jose in '72; I never paid for pussy. My friends and I would meet the girls at Colt 45 bar and make plans to hook up after closing. The girls were happy just to spend the night with us gringos and pretend we were their boyfriends. Columbia was even wilder and Jamaican girls used to fuck me, the white boy, for free back then. By the way there was no such thing as HIV and I never used a condom pre 1985. Yeah, these were great memories, but that is all they are. You can't compare yesterday with today. What is the point?
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1188503]Pattaya is on the decline! Please, stop the fucking whining! Rent, food, and utilities are higher, thus, things cost more. I will challenge anyone to tell me where in the world that has better venues and lower costs than Pattaya. I'll wait for your experienced answer.[/QUOTE]In general, I could not agree more with this although I think BKK and Macau have better venues but higher costs than Pattaya and Pattaya has better venues but higher costs than AC or Phnom Penh.
Let's face it guys; the western world is running down. The dollar is in virtual freefall, Europe is no more, and none of us are getting any younger. It has been a good run for the USA, being at the top since the end of WWII, but all that is slowly ending. Tough shit. I say that sadly because I am an American. Oh well, this all reminds me of the ancient rocker by the Police:
'When the world is running down.
You make the best of what's still around.
When the world is running down.
You make the best of what's still around.
When I feel lonely here, don't waste my time with tears.
I run 'Deep Throat' again, it ran for years and years.
Don't like the food I eat, the cans are running out.
Same food for years and years, I hate the food I eat.
When the world is running down.
You make the best of what's still around.
When the world is running down.
You make the best of what's still around'
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1188536]This is my idea of beautiful. What's yours?[/QUOTE]Ok, Grace Kelly was an unbelievably good looking girl but her price was astronomical – the kingdom of Monaco. She was at her heights in Hitchcock's "To Catch A Thief" and "Rear Window". She was breathtaking.
But I prefer Asian girls. Shu Qui is my favorite superstar hottie nowadays. I can't get enough of her in films. She was spectacular in "The Transporter" and poignant in "Three Times". They should just kept the camera on her and forget about everything else in the movies. Check out her spread in Taiwan Playboy and Penthouse.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1188623]I have to agree with Daddy07 and Tomjackin on this.
Wish I had been there in '78. Aside from Pat, Phuket was an unspoiled paradise (no large hotels) and BKK Patpong all nighters were $5. I know because I have close friends that were doing it. In the 70' & '80's, I travelled Central and South America and it was pretty amazing there too. San Jose in '72; I never paid for pussy. My friends and I would meet the girls at Colt 45 bar and make plans to hook up after closing. The girls were happy just to spend the night with us gringos and pretend we were their boyfriends. Columbia was even wilder and Jamaican girls used to fuck me, the white boy, for free back then. By the way there was no such thing as HIV and I never used a condom pre 1985. Yeah, these were great memories, but that is all they are. You can't compare yesterday with today. What is the point?
When the world is running down.
You make the best of what's still around'[/QUOTE]In the 70's and early 80's you need not travel anywhere outside the country to get girls. In USA girls were easily available in any bar. There was no drunken driving laws to speak of. Even if you get caught it was $100 fine only.
Remember the time when all bars had happy hours half price drinks although the drinks were $2 regularly. Everybody including girls were getting pretty drunk. After that it was easy to get into their pants. Ofcourse everything was free. Some girls agressively looking for a bedmate for the night. Many were recreational drug addicts. It was fashion. To say no was a taboo. Ofcourse all sex was bareback. Almost all the girls took birth control pills.
Even otherwise the girls would easily agree to terminate pregnancy I'd accident did happen.
Only thing was I am sure girls were age conscious. Maybe it was hard for 50-60 something men to bed 20 somethings.
Although I travelled to many countries, most of the time with girlfriends back packing and such I cannot say what was the mongering scene is like.
But when enough sex is freely available why deal with foreign girls?
Later with the help of internet and monger posting websites info was easily available and I am sure many started mongering in all countries.
Some of you should go back and read your post and see how stupid it sounds. You pay more for the airfare to get to Thailand, you have no problem paying more for your hotel room, you have no problem paying more for your coffee in the morning that you can't do without and many will pay whatever it takes to get a hit of their cig, you pay more for the songthaw and if you rent a car or bike you have to pay more for the gas here. But when it comes to pussy, everyone expect it to stay the same as it was in the 70's? And if it isn't the same then the place is declining.
This topic goes beyond being a cheap charlie it is just plain stupid! When you come to Pattaya do me a favor and follow this advice! K. I. S. S.
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID! And have a good time!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1188679]Some of you should go back and read your post and see how stupid it sounds. You pay more for the airfare to get to Thailand, you have no problem paying more for your hotel room, you have no problem paying more for your coffee in the morning that you can't do without and many will pay whatever it takes to get a hit of their cig, you pay more for the songthaw and if you rent a car or bike you have to pay more for the gas here. But when it comes to pussy, everyone expect it to stay the same as it was in the 70's? And if it isn't the same then the place is declining.
This topic goes beyond being a cheap charlie it is just plain stupid! When you come to Pattaya do me a favor and follow this advice! K. I. S. S.
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID! And have a good time!
LBM[/QUOTE]Right on!
The fact is if all these girls knew how badly we want their pussy, they would and could charge more. I doubt if business would drop off one bit.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1188684]Right on!
The fact is if all these girls knew how badly we want their pussy, they would and could charge more. I doubt if business would drop off one bit.[/QUOTE]Luvpuss,
You are So, So right there.
Can't wait for my next trip!
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1188636]Shu Qui is my favorite superstar hottie nowadays. I can't get enough of her in films.[/QUOTE]Yep, she's fine; beautiful woman; a perfect Asian 10.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1188543]I bought a brand new car at a dealership in the USA one time for $1, 750.
You're right, Fast Eddie. The cost of everything has gone up. Way up, but Pattaya Thailand is still the best venue in the world for quality pussy and relatively inexpensive prices.
In the 5 years I've known Pattaya, I've not observed any decline in the quality of the girls. Yes, it's more expensive, but compared to everywhere else, it's still cheap.
Street Walkers in Las Vegas were getting $100 per pop in the early 1970's.
Beach road girls, many of whom are cute, are still asking $16.
Any way you slice it in my mind, Pattaya Thailand is paradise on earth.[/QUOTE]To Daddy
I do agree Pattaya is still a good vaule but I never find anything good at Beach Road, I did pick up a nice one at walking st last night outside of Lucifer
Stay 3 hr for 1000 bht very tight body no baby but kind of shy agree on all nighter tonight for 1500 bht like she attiude don't do repeat much, I think.
You should be here back in 1995 when barfined is only 200 bht and all night is 800 bht at most bar.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1188503]In 1978, there were only dirt roads in Pattaya and I used get the finest ass for 3 US dollars![/QUOTE]I was there in 1978 and do not recall dirt roads. Certainly Walking Street was not a dirt road. $3 for the finest? I remember a nice looking gal cost around Baht200 all night, but do not recall the exchange rate, but reckon it was close to Baht10 for U$1. For me, its not the cost, its the attitudes. Compared to 1970's, bad attitudes nowadays, most probably some of it coming from foreigners too, but not from me, LOL.
Arrived 1:00 am, checked in (Soi 13) , sorted out my room and obtained provisions from the Family Mart. Off to Beach Road and headed up towards Mikes. On the way spotted a very attractive young girl (Bas) who smiled and I indicated I would come back. Went a little bit further with nothing of interest and headed back to girl. Negotiated LT for THB 1k and headed to hotel. When I came out of the shower she said that she could not stay LT (something to do with her mother) and almost started crying as she was desperate for money. Asked if she could do ST for THB 600. Not impressed but did not feel like going out again so agreed. Gave a reasonable BBBJ and had the cutest and tightest little pussy you could imagine.
Next day, did the Beach Road walk again and was stopped by a very pleasant and lovely looking girl (would guess late 20's) ; Lek; and spoke for a little while. Unfortunately, she would only do ST so moved on. Came across another pretty girl and made the usual 1k THB LT arrangement. Name Bao, seems she is 23 and had been sponsored by some English guy for last 18 months but had broken up with him recently so was back to work. Small mouth which provided one of the best BJ's I have ever had and neat little pussy. Woke up at 9:00 and left then.
Third day, Beach Road again and ran into Lek again and had another talk, then moved on and not five paces on came across my previous LT Thai GF; Kuckai (24) who I had spent 10 days with last February and 12 days the previous August. I had tried to contact her before leaving home but she no longer had / used that Sim card. Anyway, I was glad to see her and she was very happy to see me so was with her for the rest of the time.
On the last day had a bust-up with Kuckai, I did not feel (built-up over a few days) that she was providing the full GFE and was getting pissed so told her to leave. Not a happy way to end my holiday but it seems that the old adage that 'familiarity breeds contempt' is true. Had an hour to wait until my taxi arrived so headed again to Beach Road and found a nice pair of legs for a ST session, THB 700, don't remember her name and yes paid over the market but didn't care at that time.
Had an oil massage at 'Home Massage' on Soi 13/1 which was interesting. They give you a shower before the massage and wash the old fella for you. There is no playing with towels and regularly rub in the right spot. There was more on offer but at time had pussy in my room so did not explore what was available and how much.
Looking forward to February for the next trip but may stick to butterfly tactics only.
Hi,
Do you mind telling which hotel you checked in and what was the room rent? I'll be in Pattaya at the beginning of September.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Trantinr;1188932]Arrived 1:00 am, checked in (Soi 13)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1188473]Are you two guys sure that it's Pattaya in a decline; or is it possible that it's you yourselves in a decline? After 20 plus trips you are undoubtedly getting old.[/QUOTE]Actually Daddy07, I am just a bit shocked at how sensitive the board has been. I make one observation, and instead of chiming in about the topic constructively, everyone seems to want to take shots. Now if Pattaya just keeps getting better and better, than hats off to you. I think you are damn lucky being able to call Pattaya home, whether Pattaya is in decline or not.
I personally always have a great time in Pattaya. A lot of it is due to how much I know about the place, which is why I feel completely justified in my statements about Pattaya. Never said I don't like the place, never said I hate going there, never said people should cross Pattaya off their list, though people keep acting like I did. I think the whole whiny attack and negativity approach everyone is taking is just silly. If anyone doesn't like that I said Pattaya is on a decline, then boo frick'and hoo. Disagree with me all you want, which is fine, but don't act like a whiny baby about it.
This used to be a forum where people could express their opinion and get insightful observations. I guess the board might be on a decline as well!
I understand most of you have probably hit the 'Ignore Sankid Button' and won't be reading this. Fair enough. Maybe my postings, about the quality of girls available in most areas of Pattaya, have hit a nerve with some people. Although, a few others have been saying the same thing.
I made my reasons quite clear before. Why would quality sexy young Thai girls come to Pattaya when most of the falangs they encounter are down and almost out falangs looking for 50 Baht sex? Many of these are ex-pats living in Pattaya who have purchased a small condo (apologies for referring to these as rabbit hutches before) , married a local girl who has run off with most their money leaving them with their meager pensions, don't want to go home and so are reduced to 50 Baht sex. This is a shame but is a fact and has really had a negative impact on sexy, quality Thai girls coming to Pattaya. The fat, ugly and lazy girls are coming in their droves. I heard they even have fat, ugly and lazy girls' special buses now operating just to bus these girls in. Take a walk along the beach side of the beach road, almost any time of day, and they will all be lined up hoping to attract a down and out falang and 50 Baht. Remember, these are the girls that even the Thai men won't fuck.
I've been walking around a lot recently and can quite understand why the message is reverberating around Thailand that Pattaya is the place to be for a certain type of girl. Many of the ex-pats here don't seem to care about how they look and how they dress. I know there have been studies about the typical ex-pats and their dependence on alcohol. I think the alcoholic percentages for ex-pats, compared to people who stay at home, are a lot higher. Someone even told me at 75% of ex-pats suffer from some kind of alcoholism. A guy in my place has a bottle of Sanhg Thip for breakfast. He's forty and shuffles about like he's seventy already. I swear he's shrunk two inches in the last two months and has worn the same shirt for the last five days. Apparently he made his first million (pounds) before he was 28. He has become a tramp like character and there are so many more falangs around who are exactly the same.
What have I seen during my walks which I like to call, 'The Ugly Walks, ' apart from the beach road horrors?
Down and out falang sleeping rough outside 7/11 right next to the motor cycle taxi stand.
Falang laying down in the middle of 2nd road around midnight.
Falang having a heated conversation with himself in Big C.
There are more but I won't go on. All three looked like tramps. It's ugly and making Pattaya uglier day by day.
Another factor is in play that has probably been in play for a long time I just didn't notice until now. It's the 'Boys from Brazil. ' Boy's that used to play in Brazil have now been priced out of that market and are coming here. There is one in the place I stay. For the last 10 days he has turned up with all kinds of beach road dross for his short times. He keeps parading them as if they are trophies. Having Brazil experience I guess he can handle himself and doesn't feel that anything will happen. As he says he is in control?
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As you may have noticed there is a picture with this posting and a story to go with it. A guy who thought he was in control but wasn't. Many members write about their Beach Road and Shopping Mall exploits where they pick up a girl and fuck her for 50 Baht. Maybe they feel safe. Maybe nine times out of ten they might be safe. This guy wasn't safe. You see him at the lift of his condo about to go up. She came down not long after. Two days later, after he woke up, he came down. You know the story. She drugged him and took all his valuables. This is a dangerous place and sometimes you have to pay a lot more for your 50 baht fuck.
I know for some of you it goes against the grain to pay a bar fine. Maybe this guy wished he had. I've been paying girls bar fines for years and will continue to do so. I will continue buying them drinks and having fun with them. To me this is all part of the game and a lot of fun. Where is the fun in searching the beach road for a diamond that isn't there, picking up any piece of meat and waking up two days later?
For guys coming to Pattaya for the first time you can have a really great time and fuck some really sexy girls. You will find them in the Walking Street. For guys who have been to Pattaya many times. You too can have a great time but you know that the Pattaya of today is nowhere near as good as the Pattaya of yesterday. It hurts to say and to see.
[QUOTE=Thai Me Up;1189070]This used to be a forum where people could express their opinion and get insightful observations. I guess the board might be on a decline as well![/QUOTE]Nah; I welcome your opinions and feel privileged for the opportunity to debate them.
Nothing whiny or cry-baby about that.
I think the USA is in decline!
Actually, I think I agree with your assessment that this board has declined of late as well.
We don't see so many of the lively discussions of the past, and I miss them.
It's awfully hard to find useful information here anymore.
Regards,
Daddy
[QUOTE=Trantinr; 1188932]Arrived 1:00 am, checked in.
Looking forward to February for the next trip but may stick to butterfly tactics only.[/QUOTE]Thanks for great report. Good Read.
[QUOTE=Manfield04; 1189041]Hi,
Do you mind telling which hotel you checked in and what was the room rent? I'll be in Pattaya at the beginning of September.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I always stay at the Sandy Spring Hotel on Soi 13. Check it out on the net, rooms are large, clean and safe and girl friendly. Payed 1390 THB per night with a membership card which you can buy at check-in for 350 THB.
Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1188275]Can you recommend any specific bars or can't miss places?[/QUOTE]They're all can't miss places, you just have to figure out which place you like and what you're willing to pay. Go-Go bars are fun to visit, but expensive for everything. Beer bar girls provide a better time, freelancers on the street can be even better. It's pretty much hit or miss your first time there.
[QUOTE=Thai Me Up; 1189070]Actually Daddy07, I am just a bit shocked at how sensitive the board has been. I make one observation, and instead of chiming in about the topic constructively, everyone seems to want to take shots. Now if Pattaya just keeps getting better and better, than hats off to you. I think you are damn lucky being able to call Pattaya home, whether Pattaya is in decline or not.
I personally always have a great time in Pattaya. A lot of it is due to how much I know about the place, which is why I feel completely justified in my statements about Pattaya. Never said I don't like the place, never said I hate going there, never said people should cross Pattaya off their list, though people keep acting like I did. I think the whole whiny attack and negativity approach everyone is taking is just silly. If anyone doesn't like that I said Pattaya is on a decline, then boo frick'and hoo. Disagree with me all you want, which is fine, but don't act like a whiny baby about it.
This used to be a forum where people could express their opinion and get insightful observations. I guess the board might be on a decline as well![/QUOTE]Thai me up,
Your original post read it! 8192, I have always gotten your messages the problem is you don't get your own? After your original report I like many others responded not with sensitivity, nor I was attacking you!" Just thinking and saying " here is a guy that comments that Pattaya isn't the same but then follows up with how great of a time he has even landing Russian for a 1000 baht. I'm thinking I live here and can't do that? I can't speak for the others but looking after your post 8192, the comments were very similar. I certainly wasn't being sensitive or attacking you!
If anything your follow up post #8213, starting the issue of being sensitive and your comments were a attack on us! I got it the first time, you have been coming here for over 20 plus times, the place isn't the same but you still like the place it is your playground and your balls aren't going anyway. I got it the first time! But in your follow up post # 8213, 8220, 8251, you call us sensitive, you demise the remarks of another poster because you felt his experience and opinion of only 2 visits compare to your 20 doesn't warrant a negative opinion or response. If you RTFF, after your original post there hasn't been one negative attack on you until you came back injecting that your 20 visit were " fact " " can't be disputed " post #8213, continuing posting that we are sensitive, check you tone, we can't disagree because you have seen Pattaya so often.
You contradict yourself in your reports by saying " you don't see that anymore, then you fellow with " maybe a few times a week tops " " Even in low season the place seem lke it was going to burst at the seams " It's not about Pattaya being in the decline because we know even from your own comments things goes in cycles if declining now it will come back. This comes from you! I get your original message! No one was giving you a lecture, no one was misunderstanding your words, no one is attacking you about the decline of Pattaya until you with the stroke of your own pen start to attack us with your crap to try to turn the tables when people don't agree with you 100.
See guys like you like to dish out the crap and surround yourself with people that doesn't question the crap you dish out. But you were wrong this time when you posted #8912, and you didn't expect the comments that came after so your ego got bruised and you follow up with more crap because you got call out! So you started with the sensitivity thing that is what people use when they get called out and can't explain their comments, you follow with all kinds of excuse, and now your chamber is empty we are whiners, negativity approach, the whole nine yards along with us being silly including the board being in decline? You have been on this board since 2006, then you should know it is in a decline, there use to be some great guys on this board who could dish out the crap and take it these were really mongers who could agree to disagree today we still have great contributions from newbies. But it has decline because there are guys like you who whine and ask Jackson to ban us because we don't stroke your fragile ego! They have a saying " if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen " we made a few simple remarks you came back attacking and try to turn the table on everyone. If you do some research there is another guy on the board lately like you if you are looking for something new do some RTFF, get in contact and maybe the both of you should head down to Soi 13/4 for some colon cleasing.
Do me a favor, as you can see I'm in a bad mood addressing trolls like you who seems to have a head on their shoulders until they open their mouth. You fit the saying " The lights is on but there is no one home "
Clear this thread and put me on the ignore list. If not meet me in the Expat thread " fighting or opinion " either way I don't give a flying crap!
LBM
Lately, My luck has been running out on me. I have always had a few girls on a list that can really suck the door knob off the door and give a good oil massage too, a few girls who can really fuck your brains out and a few girls who can fuck and give a good suck too.
The list for girls who can suck and give a good oil massage has been exhausted. I was thinking why isn't there a place like Tulip, Mango, etc. In Pattaya? Pay a flat rate for your oil and know that you can fuck and suck as many times for the time you choose?
My usually Tammy, from Yellow house has moved on to her own business. Before that I thought she was slacking but still good because she had so many customer having to pay for those two condos when I got her one evening still good but I didn't get the massage I had expected and needed before she suck my door knob. When I visited her new place I felt I got short changed again since she seem more busy with her business than LBM, still good but not go enough for LBM. Now I know of all those BJ places but I just can't get it up in a setting like that. To me I love getting that oil massage first and then we could play! So in need of a oil / BBBJ combo I have been searching and searching and I'm tired and LBM is very irritated as you guys can see?
Why I enjoy Baccara more than the other clubs. Out Saturday night with another ISG member and met at Baccara. This place for me has the place best setting for me and when I want to see steak this is where I go. The bouncers never bother me with buying drinks nor are the girls pushy for drinks. When the request of a refill if I say no or not right now no problem. This can be confirm last Saturday when we sat next to a Japanese guy? He nurse that coke for 3 hours (no kidding) and within that time I never saw anyone approach him for a refill or get mad at him. He stared up at the glass ceiling, stared at the girls on the lower stage and actually fell asleep a few times while the girls pointed and laughed at him. One even was offended and snapped her finger in his face while everyone laugh. From time to time one gets down but in Pattaya there is always something to get you back up? Just when you stop looking it pops right up now I just need to obtain a new list of girls who can give a good oil and suck the knob off LBM?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1189314]Why I enjoy Baccara more than the other clubs. Out Saturday night with another ISG member and met at Baccara. This place for me has the place best setting for me and when I want to see steak this is where I go. The bouncers never bother me with buying drinks nor are the girls pushy for drinks.[/QUOTE]Return to Pattaya next week. IMHO, the Baccara has the best quality of girls than the other go-gos. Love throwing them the ping-pong balls and watching them scramble!
[QUOTE=Sangkid;
For guys coming to Pattaya for the first time you can have a really great time and fuck some really sexy girls. You will find them in the Walking Street.
That to me is actually the worst place to find them.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1189314]Lately, My luck has been running out on me.[/QUOTE]
Gee, maybe Thai Me Up is right after all and Pattaya is in decline. :D
Nah. You're just in a bad mood today, LBM.
You need to go to Baccara again soon and have #55 sit on your lap.
She's a good little knob gobbler, I'm sure, and there are thousands more just like her.
We both know that Pattaya is paradise on Earth.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1189463]Gee, maybe Thai Me Up is right after all and Pattaya is in decline. .
Nah. You're just in a bad mood today, LBM.
You need to go to Baccara again soon and have #55 sit on your lap.
She's a good little knob gobbler, I'm sure, and there are thousands more just like her.
We both know that Pattaya is paradise on Earth.[/QUOTE]Nah, sensitive? Did you noticed that in my tone? Maybe I should lighten up?
What about that short hair blond upstair? That came down and flash her pussy? Maybe I need pingpong girls and her braces around my knob? Yes there are thousands but right now things are in a down cycle so maybe only hundreds? Pattaya is paradise to you only if you can afford that penthouse on the beach? For me its hell but even in hell if you sell your soul one can have a good time.
LBM
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1189211]I understand most of you have probably hit the 'Ignore Sankid Button' and won't be reading this. Fair enough.[/QUOTE]Don't worry Sangkid, I am reading your stuff, LOL.
I'm finding it entertaining, insightful, prejudiced, sometimes right, sometimes wrong. Different opinions always interest me, even if I do not agree with them. Its good you do not toe the line, and have the balls to express your opinion, even if you come in for criticism, justified some times of course. Boring if everyone is conforming and expressing like minded opinions all the time.
I think you can ignore people who say they put you on their ignore list. I think most of them still read your stuff. It's to their loss if they don't, LOL.
If folks now target me, please be advised I will not respond. I have simply expressed my opinion, which is what a Forum is all about aint it?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1189491]-- For me its hell but even in hell if you sell your soul one can have a good time. LBM[/QUOTE]If hell is Pattaya, I can stop going to confession once and for all.
Besides, a little "singe" around the edges is good for an old guy! ;)
I'm arrive about 10 PM Sat night in Bangkok. I imagine about an hour to get out of the airport so if it's around 11:00 or so, what are my options to get to Pattaya? Is a cab my only option? Can anyone make some recommendations? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Thai Me Up; 1188122]Wow, you guys sure are super sensitive about Pattaya. Look fellas. If I have offended anyone's love for Pattaya, I do truly apologize! Take a moment and ask anyone who has been going there for years, and I am sure they will share the same observation. Things have gotten a much slower, there aren't as many girls, nor are there as many stunners, and it keeps getting more expensive. Those are the facts. Now, is that an attempt to insult Pattaya, like it seems some of you believe, I don't think so. It is what it is. Still we all keep going year after year, because even at its worst there is no place on the planet like it.
So it is not me fellas, it is Pattaya, and if you have been going there as long as I have, there is no way you could disagree with me. As great as it is today, it is nothing compared to when I first started going. Back when the baht was 40:1 USD, and the bars were packed and walking street and soi 8 were overflowing with people every night. You don't see that anymore. Maybe a few times a week tops. Even in low season, the place seemed like it was going to burst at the seams.
You are right, LBM, I have nothing to complain about. I've always done very well in Pattaya, and hopefully always will. Still, it never hurts to get suggestions for new spots IN Pattaya, that are less known. As I have learned over the years, there are a lot of places you can go to in Pattaya and on the out skirts of Pattaya, that you will never know about, unless you ask!
TMU[/QUOTE]I'm wondering exactly how many years you have been going to Pattaya. Some guys here are talking about the 1970's, probably before most readers had even become sexually active with their right hand, let alone a female, LOL.
By the city being "slower" what do you mean? If a bar is having a slow night it means not much business. This means fewer customers. With the world economy being down in recent years that should not surprise. Add to that the special problems of Thailand since 2006 in coups, airport closures & scams, red yellow shirt deadly protests, etc and one should expect tourism and business to be down. And so it has been.
Does this mean the laws of supply and demand no longer apply? That the number of pooners is not still in the same proportion to the number of hookers?
Another poster, Daddy07, claimed that things are getting better and better over the last five years. I look forward to him elaborating on why he thinks that is true. Is this speaking of SWs, Gogo's, MP's, or what? Could it be that none of us are omniscient as to any of these realms and that all any of us have is only a small single bite of a huge watermelon as to what any of these scenes are like.
You say "there aren't as many girls, nor are there as many stunners, and it keeps getting more expensive. Those are the facts." I have already addressed the first item. As for stunners, I suggest that may correlate with the same. Fewer customers may mean fewer girls, hence fewer stunners. Furthermore stunners tend to be higher earners & get out of the business quicker due to retirement or making millions of baht. Their children would be more likely to be stunners, but less likely to become hookers since their rich mommys would take care that that does not happen. Consequently this is one of a number of factors that pushes all of LOS towards decline as time passes, at least as far as stunners is concerned. OTOH with the world economy declining recently and in Siam especially, due to reasons I've mentioned above, this would tend towards a push for pumping other stunners back into the profession. As poster Daddy07 alleges, there are new arrivals regularly.
Regarding being constantly "more expensive" you make a great point re the Baht falling from 40 to the USD down to what is now below 30. That is a huge factor in value being lost in travelling to LOS. At least for the US citizen. But how does that compare for the rest of the world? And what about times before that. Did I not read somewhere of a time when the USD only got 10 baht?
Further re Pattaya becomimg "more expensive", is this not the case everywhere in the world over the last 5, 10, 20, 30 years. It's called inflation. So we see in the last few years that Gogo's in BKK are pushing ST prices up to 2000 Baht. I read here on ISG the same is happening in Pattaya. Why is this happening? Besides the possibility of inflation there is the theory that Thais tend to increase prices when business is slow to compensate for the lack of sales. All that aside it could be the cost is going up for johns because the cost of doing business {rent, utilities, etc} is going up, or gogo businessmen believe they can get away with it, based on the gogo's reputation, hype re safety vs FLs, the offering of nude or semi nude shows, etc.
Are you suggesting Pattaya is only "great" when bars are packed every night? Of course there is more to the Pattaya P4P scene that just bars. What about MPs, Gogos, SWs, FLs? Furthermore if I walk into a bar as the only customer amongst 10 ladies including several hotties, to me that is far greater than what you describe and does not have to indicate a decline as far as my enjoyment is concerned or the ability to get a stunner. That illustration is comparable to the NEP SW scene in BKK now where the prices are the same as back in 2007, typicly 1000 baht ST. Furthermore, if anything, their quality in looks is up, there are more stunners, and service is better. This is speaking from my own personal experiences, having spent a total of about 2 years in the capitol since mid 2007, or an average of around 5 months per annum. But perhaps things are different in Pattaya, eh?
Lastly, it appears that all those who expressed opinions on the subject here in the past week believe Pattaya to be the greatest show on earth, regardless of their view on whether or not Pattaya is in a state of decline or demise, whatever specificly that is meant to convey. I'd love to check it out sometime, but for now am quite content in the City of Angels. Maybe if I retire in the Kingdom one day, I'd try six months in each. How does that sound. Deal?
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"Sex is the best high. It's better than any drug. I want to die making love because it feels so good." Bai Ling
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1189614]I'm arrive about 10 PM Sat night in Bangkok. I imagine about an hour to get out of the airport so if it's around 11:00 or so, what are my options to get to Pattaya? Is a cab my only option? Can anyone make some recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'am afraid cab is the best option at that time. Go up to the departure level and get a taxi that just dropped passengers. Make sure is a large new Toyota and offer him 1. 000 baht plus toll money. Tell him to use the highway and that you will pay for the toll. Otherwise he might go under it in order to save some money.
That's what I do.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1189614]I'm arrive about 10 PM Sat night in Bangkok. I imagine about an hour to get out of the airport so if it's around 11:00 or so, what are my options to get to Pattaya? Is a cab my only option? Can anyone make some recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Dude, take the cab.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1189614]I'm arrive about 10 PM Sat night in Bangkok. I imagine about an hour to get out of the airport so if it's around 11:00 or so, what are my options to get to Pattaya? Is a cab my only option? Can anyone make some recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Two Options:
1) Take a cab; between 1000 - 1200 Baht.
2) Take the train and metro to Soi 63 Ekkamai Bus Station (approx 100 Baht?). Then take the bus to Pattaya (approx 120 Baht). It seems the Airport Express Bus to town has been terminated. I believe that the train/metro closes around midnite.
Cab will take less than 90 minutes. Metro and bus combo will take at least 3 hours.
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1189777]Two Options:
1) Take a cab; between 1000. 1200 Baht.
2) Take the train and metro to Soi 63 Ekkamai Bus Station (approx 100 Baht?). Then take the bus to Pattaya (approx 120 Baht). It seems the Airport Express Bus to town has been terminated. I believe that the train / metro closes around midnite.[/QUOTE]Option 2 is not possible as no bus is available to Pats at that hour. Go with option 1.
Chichichi,
Based on your original questions and comment and the time you were arriving at the airport there is only one option and that option is to take a taxi even if you have to spend 1500 baht from the taxi stand.
If you using the theory that time is money? Then you certainly wouldn't take the train and go to Ekkamai since you are going the wrong direction from Pattaya. And even if you did this once at Pattaya you got to transfer again to get to your hotel. So when you add the cost (whatever) to Ekkamai, bus to Pattaya, Songthaw? To your hotel you have lost a alot of time / time you could be taking a shower and cleaning up at your hotel and getting laid which I believe was your main objective. Add all the above and if you have luggage just get a cab sit back and relax and get to the action.
Good luck enjoy? LBM
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1189640]Lastly, it appears that all those who expressed opinions on the subject here in the past week believe Pattaya to be the greatest show on earth, regardless of their view on whether or not Pattaya is in a state of decline or demise, whatever specificly that is meant to convey. I'd love to check it out sometime, but for now am quite content in the City of Angels. Maybe if I retire in the Kingdom one day, I'd try six months in each. How does that sound. Deal?
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"Sex is the best high. It's better than any drug. I want to die making love because it feels so good." Bai Ling[/QUOTE]I consider it a win-win if there are fewer guys and more girls, regardless the location, LOL.
Having made my first trip to Pattaya last year, and my next coming up in a week, I'm going to check out the scene outside Walking Street. It's a fun venue, no question, but tends to get old after a while. The go-go's have the better looking girls, but I prefer the beer bars where the girls tend to be more attentive and playful. To each his own, as the saying goes.
[quote=pinkpearl;1189640]another poster, daddy07, claimed that things are getting better and better over the last five years. i look forward to him elaborating on why he thinks that is true. is this speaking of sws, gogo's, mp's, or what? could it be that none of us are omniscient as to any of these realms and that all any of us have is only a small single bite of a huge watermelon as to what any of these scenes are like.[/quote]sure, i'm happy to elaborate, pp.
you have to understand that my situation is much different perhaps than that of a sex starved casual tourist visiting pattaya for a week or two, looking for action 3 times per day. i'm an older retired expat with limited sexual powers now and am more than satisfied with 4 or 5 sessions per week – far more pops than i ever enjoyed as a young and middle aged married man in the states.
i've acquired a short list of regulars who satisfy my all requirements and take very good care of me sexually – i get a lot more than i can handle. so i'm not desperate to find new talent every day. sometimes i wish they would stop calling me so often so i wouldn't have to keep telling them 'no, not today, honey. ' i love women, but always in small doses; not looking for girlfriends, and i never go long time.
i no longer need to troll beach road for my next piece of ass, but i still see lots of cute young girls looking for customers there rep001tered about among the not so cute ones. i'the have no trouble finding one in a short time if the need arose. pattaya is crawling with them, just as it was in 2006 during my first visit to the los. some of my best regulars were br girls.
i usually get my satisfaction in the daytime when my regulars call me to ask if they can come to my room, so when i go out at night for a few drinks and entertainment i'm not looking to get laid but only to look. i never tire of looking at beautiful young girls in the full flower of youth dancing naked or nearly naked in front of me while i relax in a comfortable air-conditioned go-go bar. new stunners are seen and enjoyed constantly.
now and then i might barfine a special one who becomes a new regular. once they become regulars, there are no bar fines and they're always happy to provide their services at a fraction of what they might charge a first time customer. there are plenty of stunners in the soapy mp's too, but why bother when i can get stunners far cheaper elsewhere. i don't like beer bars because there is no entertainment; the girls don't get naked, and generally they are not as pretty.
before the go-go's open, i like to have a drink at one of the small walking street bars where i can sit back facing the street and watch the people go by, especially the hundreds of young girls arriving for work. i'm never disappointed. this is where i see dozens of new faces, many of them absolute stunners every time. the well never seems to run dry. pattaya has an inexhaustible supply of them and new ones are arriving every day and i only see a small percentage of them.
almost every day i think to myself there is no where in the world i would rather be than pattaya, thailand. to me, it's paradise on earth.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1189947]I'm an older retired expat with limited sexual powers now and am more than satisfied with 4 or 5 sessions per week – far more pops than I ever enjoyed as a young and middle aged married man in the states. -- Almost every day I think to myself there is no where in the world I would rather be than Pattaya, Thailand. To me, it's paradise on Earth.[/QUOTE]Ahhh, the leisure life of a "hansum" man. I must say, you looked very satisfied the other night sitting in your "chair." ;)
very well said daddy07. here is what i totally agree with:
[quote=daddy07; 1189947]i'm a retired expat more than satisfied with 4 or 5 sessions per week – far more pops than i ever enjoyed as a young and middle aged married man in the states.
i've acquired a short list of regulars who satisfy my all requirements and take very good care of me sexually – i get a lot more than i can handle. so i'm not desperate to find new talent every day.
i no longer need to troll beach road for my next piece of ass, but i still see lots of cute young girls looking for customers there rep001tered about among the not so cute ones. i'the have no trouble finding one in a short time if the need arose. pattaya is crawling with them, just as it was in 2006 during my first visit to the los. some of my best regulars were br girls.
when i go out at night for a few drinks and entertainment i'm not looking to get laid but only to look. i never tire of looking at beautiful young girls in the full flower of youth dancing naked or nearly naked in front of me while i relax in a comfortable air-conditioned go-go bar. new stunners are seen and enjoyed constantly.
now and then i might barfine a special one who becomes a new regular. once they become regulars, there are no bar fines and they're always happy to provide their services at a fraction of what they might charge a first time customer. i don't like beer bars because there is no entertainment; the girls don't get naked, and generally they are not as pretty.
i see dozens of new faces, many of them absolute stunners every time. the well never seems to run dry. pattaya has an inexhaustible supply of them and new ones are arriving every day and i only see a small percentage of them.
almost every day i think to myself there is nowhere in the world i would rather be than pattaya, thailand. to me, it's paradise on earth.[/quote]right now i am one of those guys that takes 5 or 6 weeks a year off my work to travel south east asia. i spend the rest of the year working and having as good a time as i can in the usa so that one day i can reverse things and spend 10 months a year travelling and two months at home.
so when i arrive in thailand or hong kong the first thing i do is start banging every pretty working girl i see. after a couple of weeks however, i start to slow down and get into my long term rhythm of 4 or 5 girls per week. but my time (5-6 weeks) is still too short, plus i never stay in any one place long enough to acquire a list of regulars. usually i find one or two girls that are a little bit nicer than all the rest in terms of looks, personality, chemistry, and sex and i will repeat with them a couple of times, but that is all. most of the time i am on the hunt and my trips always end too soon.
but, i am not far from my financial goal and when i achieve it i will come out to thailand and probably rent an apartment in bangkok for 6 months or a year. then after a couple months as i get into the pace of things, i think i would settle down with a couple of my favorite go go and massage girls. i also think my hunting habits would change and i think i would start to look more for non-working girl types and become a lot pickier about the pros i take home. (i am pretty picky right now and only shag the prettiest go go and massage ladies at the top establishments.) so as a semi resident, going out at night would be for a drink or two and entertainment purposes and only possibly to get laid. i would be hooking up with my regular girls by cell phone. barfines and high st fees would diminish. if i were to get bored of bkk, there would be excursions to patt, the islands, the northern hills, pp, pi, macau and hong kong.
yeah, living in thailand sounds pretty good to me. you got it made! just take care of yourself.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1189640]So we see in the last few years that Gogo's in BKK are pushing ST prices up to 2000 Baht. I read here on ISG the same is happening in Pattaya. Why is this happening?[/QUOTE]Because the Thai government is raising the daily wage to 300 baht. It is a long-standing rule-of-thumb that Go-Go girls get thirty-five times the income of the ordinary person, thus they now get 2000 baht for a short time.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1189614]I'm arrive about 10 PM Sat night in Bangkok. I imagine about an hour to get out of the airport so if it's around 11:00 or so, what are my options to get to Pattaya? Is a cab my only option? Can anyone make some recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Get a cab.
Do not take the Limo service (Too expensive)
Ignore the 'you want taxi, I have taxi' touts.
They are not official, or legal.
As you come out of Arrivals, go to the official Taxi rank, which is outside the Arrivals door.
They have a manned desk, tell them you want to go to Pattaya, and the name of your hotel.
They will give you a price, and put you in a Taxi.
Expect to be ripped off, but anything less than 1500 all in, is OK, for a 1st timer.
The taxi, will take you straight to your hotel.
Check in, unpack, SSS, and go out and find a 'companion.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1189614]I'm arrive about 10 PM Sat night in Bangkok. I imagine about an hour to get out of the airport so if it's around 11:00 or so, what are my options to get to Pattaya? Is a cab my only option? Can anyone make some recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Google Pattaya Taxi. They have a deal where they pick you up at the airport, help carry your bag to the car, pay the garage and tolls. They take the fastest route and will stop for a.
Coffee on the motorway. They bring you to your hotel, all with no hassle. 1000 or 1100 bt. No need to search for an honest taxi, pay tolls, go the slow way, fight with the driver. These guys are good!
Pinkpearl,
Welcome back, I never read anything that Pattaya was the greatest show? You reside in the City of Angels, turn things around and tell us if it is the same as before and whether it might be in decline?
LBM
7 of us have now told the dude to take a taxi. Anyone else think its necessary to chime in.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1190191]7 of us have now told the dude to take a taxi. Anyone else think its necessary to chime in.[/QUOTE]Sure, why in the hell not. Hey Cheap Charlie; take a damn cab!
That makes 8, huh?
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As you may have noticed there is a picture with this posting and a story to go with it. A guy who thought he was in control but wasn't. Many members write about their Beach Road and Shopping Mall exploits where they pick up a girl and fuck her for 50 Baht. Maybe they feel safe. Maybe nine times out of ten they might be safe. This guy wasn't safe. You see him at the lift of his condo about to go up. She came down not long after. Two days later, after he woke up, he came down. You know the story. She drugged him and took all his valuables. This is a dangerous place and sometimes you have to pay a lot more for your 50 baht fuck.
I know for some of you it goes against the grain to pay a bar fine. Maybe this guy wished he had. I've been paying girls bar fines for years and will continue to do so. I will continue buying them drinks and having fun with them. To me this is all part of the game and a lot of fun. Where is the fun in searching the beach road for a diamond that isn't there, picking up any piece of meat and waking up two days later?
For guys coming to Pattaya for the first time you can have a really great time and fuck some really sexy girls. You will find them in the Walking Street. For guys who have been to Pattaya many times. You too can have a great time but you know that the Pattaya of today is nowhere near as good as the Pattaya of yesterday. It hurts to say and to see.[/QUOTE]How safe is Pattaya?
I arrive next month and have been reading about all kinds of scams.
How safe is it to pick a lady from the beach and spend the night with her?
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1190195]Sure, why in the hell not. Hey Cheap Charlie; take a damn cab!
That makes 8, huh?[/QUOTE]Awesome, thanks.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1190195]Sure, why in the hell not. Hey Cheap Charlie; take a damn cab!
That makes 8, huh?[/QUOTE]Take 9, Cheap Charlies take the bus, not the taxi.
Must admit I once caught the helicopter to Pattaya, LOL.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1190130]Welcome back, I never read anything that Pattaya was the greatest show? You reside in the City of Angels, turn things around and tell us if it is the same as before and whether it might be in decline?[/QUOTE]My pooning in BKK has been around 99% with the SWs I commented on earlier. I expect that's about all I have to say on that subject as it relates to the topic of decline as far as my personal experience is concerned. Obviously I wouldn't have much to say in that regard re gogos, beer bars, MP's, escort services, different types of FLs {besides SWs}, online Thai dating services, any other categories of P4P TGs that may exist, or fucking with regular so-called good TGs.
Concerning recent remarks about "sleaze by the sea" Pattaya being the greatest show "on earth", I was referring to those such as these:
Tomjackin:
I will challenge anyone to tell me where in the world that has better venues and lower costs than Pattaya. I'll wait for your experienced answer.
Natty Bumpo:
In general, I could not agree more with this although I think BKK and Macau have better venues but higher costs than Pattaya and Pattaya has better venues but higher costs than AC or Phnom Penh.
Daddy07:
You're right, Fast Eddie. The cost of everything has gone up. Way up, but Pattaya Thailand is still the best venue in the world for quality pussy and relatively inexpensive prices.
In the 5 years I've known Pattaya, I've not observed any decline in the quality of the girls. Yes, it's more expensive, but compared to everywhere else, it's still cheap.
Almost every day I think to myself there is no where in the world I would rather be than Pattaya, Thailand. To me, it's paradise on Earth.
Luvpuss:
Awesome comments. You are right on.
Hotman 666:
Everything is relative and, in MY opinion, Pattaya still offers one of the best 'value for money' experiences anywhere in the world!
Thai Me Up:
Still we all keep going year after year, because even at its worst there is no place on the planet like it.
PinkPearl,
Sleaze by the sea? I guess that could be a good description.
Venue = Pattaya I guess you are right.
But as for the show itself in the venue in Pattaya that is a discussion that might not ever be settle?
Regardless, I was more interested in getting something out of you for AC, thirty plus years ago I was escorted to Cebu with a few bodyguards and spent a few days in heaven with a bunch of young ladies. A gew guys and I were planning a trip to AC but I most likely will decline since I have a problem with traveling with one of the guys that has been there many times. There is some people who aren't good traveling companions.
LBM
[QUOTE=Sturobbo; 1190216]How safe is Pattaya?
I arrive next month and have been reading about all kinds of scams.
How safe is it to pick a lady from the beach and spend the night with her?[/QUOTE]Tell us what scams you are talking about and maybe someone can address them.
If you are a man, have some common sense, can keep your wits about you, are a little risky and want some adventure and great male entertainment, come check it out
If you are kind of a pussy, stay away.
[QUOTE=Sturobbo; 1190216]How safe is Pattaya?
I arrive next month and have been reading about all kinds of scams.
How safe is it to pick a lady from the beach and spend the night with her?[/QUOTE]Being smart helps.
Those beach babes might be there for several reasons. Bars might not use them because they are: sick, lazy or just too fat and ugly. Or they just might be part of a scam team and you wake up two days later. Of course they are also there to service the needs of ex-pats.
Walking on the beach late at night isn't a good idea. Someone recently reported about being robbed doing this. At first he said Walking Street but later changed his story to a place 2 miles away.
Enjoy yourself, have fun, pay a few bar fines. Leave the beach babes to the smart guys.
Sturobbo,
You are most likely concern about cases reported of tourist getting rob in their hotels by Beach road providers. Majority of these cases are I believe dealing with ladyboys working on beach road.
You might be concern about stories where tourist has been drug in their room and everything was taken from them this again mostly with ladyboys but it does happen? Is there a sure fire preventive way to protect this from happening? If this is your thing the most one can do is take luvpuss advice and keep your wit about things. It was recently reported by another member how much bad luck he was having but when one read his report you could clearly tell it was because he had too much to drink!
Certainly if you take one from the beach, it is hard to tell if the I. D. Given to the hotel guard (if available) is actually the person. In these cases of robberies the I.D. Was fake.
You might want to take them to a short time hotel first and if things pan out take them LT, you might want to set something up with the hotel guard (if available) money helps greatly? To make sure to call your room before he gives the I. The back to the girl.
You might want to limit your contents particularly money in your room, is there a hotel safe deposit box? Room safe I'm not too keen on since they can easily be broken into. I have read a report lately some guy lost something like a million baht and gold necklace it might be true but I'm thinking a million baht and gold and he is staying in a dump? Who is scamming who?
Any other suggestions will have to come from others.
LBM
Yeah, I was that person. I think you just have to have your wits about you. I saw a few ladyboys on beach road trying to pick pocket guys I even saw a guy have a fight with one fully rolling ion the ground and everything, fake tits out and all. Just stay away from them. Thats not 2 miles away surely.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1190513]Sturobbo,
You are most likely concern about cases reported of tourist getting rob in their hotels by Beach road providers. Majority of these cases are I believe dealing with ladyboys working on beach road.
You might be concern about stories where tourist has been drug in their room and everything was taken from them this again mostly with ladyboys but it does happen? Is there a sure fire preventive way to protect this from happening? If this is your thing the most one can do is take luvpuss advice and keep your with about things. It was recently reported by another member how much bad luck he was having but when one read his report you could clearly tell it was because he had too much to drink!
Certainly if you take one from the beach, it is hard to tell if the I. D. Given to the hotel guard (if available) is actually the person. In these cases of robberies the I. D. Was fake.
You might want to take them to a short time hotel first and if things pan out take them LT, you might want to set something up with the hotel guard (if available) money helps greatly? To make sure to call your room before he gives the I. The back to the girl.
You might want to limit your contents particularly money in your room, is there a hotel safe deposit box? Room safe I'm not too keen on since they can easily be broken into. I have read a report lately some guy lost something like a million baht and gold necklace it might be true but I'm thinking a million baht and gold and he is staying in a dump? Who is scamming who?
Any other suggestions will have to come from others.
LBM[/QUOTE]Good advice. I drink, but never on a monger trip. It not only can make me stupid, but I can't get as many woddies if I am buzzed and fighting hangovers.
The securing your valuables is a good one. I try and not to have any more money in my possesion / room than I need for the day. Also, with passports, wallets. I actually always keep them on my person, in my front pocket. Might seem kind of dumb, but never had an isssue. I could be wrong on this, but I think my chances of being robbed on the street are less than it being ripped off from my room.
Luvpuss,
You really don't need to carry your passport, just make a copy of front page and arrival card (front and back) and lock your passport up. Wallet, you don't need 99% percent of the stuff in your wallet that your normally carry in your own country lock that up too. Get yourself at a local stand a cheap bill fold that normally carry credit cards / fold up the copy of passport, carry only one credit card just for emergency ATM withdraws, and tuck away a thousand baht inside out of view, Keep that small thin holder in your front pocket along with maybe 3-5 thousand bahts in your pocket and maybe a business card of your hotel depending on how your hotel is setup.
If you stay longer you can make a credit card size lamenated copy of your passport even in color at a local Kodak copy center for around 110 baht in color, if you are near Soi Baukhao and Soi lengkee there is a Kodak just pass the 7/11.
LBM
Rasputin
After visiting the Sabai soapy's in Pats a few month ago, I find the rooms a bit old and the girls giving just a standard treatment, I am actually no longer a big fan of it and tried recently a new one in Hua Hin (see HH report) , even this one was no big deal. My in Pattaya living friend goes at least twice a week to a soapy and recommended Rasputin now as the best in town above the rest, so I would give it another try.
I walked inside in the afternoon and to my surprise the whole place looks pretty new and big, Papasan guided me to the front row and I noticed a big bunch of dark Indian looking guys in the seats on the right behind me, no one white falang around.
A nice group of good looking ladies sitting on the stage and I got right away full attention from all the girls, all of them looking in my direction to get (only) my personal attention and they did not look anymore to the other guys at all, maybe with a reason.
Papas an was trying to convince me to take one of the newer girls with red badges (2300thb) , saying they working there only a few days and fresh from the mother and a lot more BS, I told him a few times that I just want to make my own choice and leave me alone for 10 minutes in order to relax a bit.
I finally discovered a nice looking girl with a big smile and decent boobs from the white badges area (1800Thb) , it turned out for me to be an excellent choice, great GFE from the first minute and this also all the time during the massage.
Upstairs to the room and to my surprise, the aisles are looking like a Indian fiends meeting area, the guys are running from one room to another and a with lot of noise.
The rooms are very nice, big and confortable, it looks like it's all brand new, a very good tub with jets, quickly filled, several big mirrors, a big comfortable bed etc. I ordered a few drinks for myself and the girl to give it a bit of a party feeling, and yes it did.
The girl was from Chiang Mai, very friendly and funny and I received something better than the usual wash and Polish include a very good massage followed by a good F. K in all positions, good kissing and it was far away from the mechanical treatments like in most other SP in the area.
After a great 90 minutes, I gave the girl a nice tip and left, when leaving the room I could not understand why all these guys are still hanging around, same problem occurred at the pay counter, finally the girl told me that she (and friends) did not like this kind of clients and that she was more the happy that I took her out of it, maybe one of the reason that I got such a good GFE in return.
Next Pat's stay, I will visit this place again
John Euro
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1190630]Luvpuss,
You really don't need to carry your passport, just make a copy of front page and arrival card (front and back) and lock your passport up. Wallet, you don't need 99% percent of the stuff in your wallet that your normally carry in your own country lock that up too. Get yourself at a local stand a cheap bill fold that normally carry credit cards / fold up the copy of passport, carry only one credit card just for emergency ATM withdraws, and tuck away a thousand baht inside out of view, Keep that small thin holder in your front pocket along with maybe 3-5 thousand bahts in your pocket and maybe a business card of your hotel depending on how your hotel is setup.
If you stay longer you can make a credit card size lamenated copy of your passport even in color at a local Kodak copy center for around 110 baht in color, if you are near Soi Baukhao and Soi lengkee there is a Kodak just pass the 7/11.
LBM[/QUOTE]I like your plan generally, however as you probably know it is the law in Thailand to carry with you, your original passport. I know they do not enforce that much, but I did run into an Australian on my last trip that claims he got busted / fined for not having it.
Also, it is probably just my Macho (or stupid) thinking, but I were to get ripped off, I would rather it be face to face, instead of having shit stolen from my room. Just me I guess.
A week ago on my last night in town I took an experienced girl from Butterfly in Soi 6 for LT back to my room, it was a rough and sleepless night, I think that she has been sucking the final last drop out of my junior, she only left after breakfast and after that I needed a bit of rest and thought it was my last bang in Pats for a while.
I know I would not be back in Pattaya for at least another 3 month so around noon time I started making up ideas followed by plans for a last pop before going to BK, not that there is a lack of action in BK but Pattaya is still different in action.
No longer in a position or good physical condition to do all the boom boom work myself in places like Devils Den, a BJ in soi 6 was even not an option, I opted more for a dirty oil massage in a place where I could be sure of a HJ or BJ, based on good experiences before I decided to go to Dream teen massage at Soi 21.
It's a bit of a walk from 2e Road but it's OK, once inside I did not needed a line up, the girl that greeted me while having here lunch was good looking to me and at least 7,
I took a 90 min oil & ball massage at 550 thb, I had a shower and the girl helped me in the shower without any worry of getting wet, a bit of a chat (to break the ice?) and up on the bed.
I received a reasonable oil rubbing on my back side, a lot of teasing on junior and the balls created finally the right effect, my junior was getting bigger by the minute and now it was time to turn around.
I was only looking for a HJ, knowing that this would take long enough to get another last drop out my willy but the girl was trying to sell me a BtB what I finally accepted, yes, the naked body would turn me on a bit more me than just the cool HJ.
After the strip I discovered a nice body, the BtB was very good and for sure not her first time, she knew very good how to play with her fingers in the lower body parts and she had to work very hard to let me cum, she even asked with a smile if I wanted to cum a second time, no way.
I was more than happy with this last pit stop and can recommend this place
John Euro
[QUOTE=John Euro;1190648]the girl was trying to sell me a BtB what I finally accepted.[/QUOTE]¿How much?
[QUOTE=John Euro;1190648]It's a bit of a walk from 2e Road but it's OK,[/QUOTE]If you don't want to walk they do have outcall service.
Just a story about my first time in LOS. No pictures.
I was feeling nostalgic and a restless about my next trip to PI / LOS. Then, I remembered my rookie trip to LOS. I had read the forum (ISG) but it just didn't seem real to me at the time. They just seem like traveler's stories that were over-exaggerated, and most the guys seemed narcissistic about their conquests. Fc*K, I didn't not know what the hell I was in for when I arrived.
I am a young guy so I thought I would fake it all and buy a big back-pak as if I was about to go f'ing back-pakin' across the world. LOL. I bought a travel book and decided to spend my first night on Khoa San Road. It was really cool IMHO, I could have spent more time there. They had some killer live alternative-rock bands and my first Singha was awesome while in that mix. I walked aimlessly through the streets of Bangkok, from chinatown to the palace to eventually sukhumvit. What an enormous city. I lived on the internet until I found a hotel close to cowboy and poised myself for my first mongering night.
It was wild. All alone in the Thai city of angels and it was fast moving. Almost too fast. Going out clubbing after the go-go and getting hammered and dancing all night. Then shaggin with what little energy I had left. I decided I needed to slow down and I took a taxi to Pattaya not knowing WTF I was in for. I remember my first hotel. Flipper Lodge, towards the end of Soi 8. And I wanted to relax? LOL. All the bars. All the massage places. Street food. And the undiscovered soapies (which I later came back to Bangkok to experience again). I was on walking street and had visited more than a few bars (this is when I drank beer instead of low proof liquors with mixers now) and more than few beers. I think I was in Living Dolls when I see a tall stunner. I invited her timidly down for a LD. She pointed to herself and questioned "Me?", and of course I nodded yes.
That's when I found out that she was f'ing mute. Which, if you think about it, was kind of cool. Because, shit, the language barrier is a big thing in LOS. She was lively and fun. Entertaining. I BF'd her and took her back to the loom for some more sign language training. She was so eager to please, I felt that she was somehow over looked or farm fresh. She was so silent while trying to communicate, soft and graceful. But when we finally started to get into it, she grunted and exhaled like she was lifting heavy weights. When I began talking to her chest to chest. She motioned to me that she could hear me and it drove her wild, that p*ssy just got sloppy and everything got way sexy.
The girls in Bangkok were mercenary for sure, but this girl was straight out of Issan and I felt like I had discovered something simple and timeless. I didn't fall in love with heror anything so foolish, but I did fall in love with the idea that sex could be so simple. So uncomplicated. I wasn't a guy looking for something sexually exotic or deviant. But I saw it all there and respected those who did. It was disneyland, some guys hang around Adventureland, some guys Frontierland. But for me it was fantasyland and I was cool just being there.
There great thing about the mute girl (lek I think) was that she didn't call me, and her txts were short and sweet. We hooked up again towards the end of my trip, and I never saw her again.
Such is the way in LOS. Be safe out there.
Susu
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1190636]I like your plan generally, however as you probably know it is the law in Thailand to carry with you, your original passport. I know they do not enforce that much, but I did run into an Australian on my last trip that claims he got busted / fined for not having it.
Also, it is probably just my Macho (or stupid) thinking, but I were to get ripped off, I would rather it be face to face, instead of having shit stolen from my room. Just me I guess.[/QUOTE]I neve carry my passport and keep it in the hotel. My trips are often multi-country.
I prefer to discuss with police aware my original passport is in the hotel, than having to discuss with no passport at all as lost. I do even carry the color jpg copy in my phone and I-pod memories. There is a limited hassle you can get with photocopy, there is endless hassle with no passport at all.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1190636]I like your plan generally, however as you probably know it is the law in Thailand to carry with you, your original passport. I know they do not enforce that much, but I did run into an Australian on my last trip that claims he got busted / fined for not having it.
Also, it is probably just my Macho (or stupid) thinking, but I were to get ripped off, I would rather it be face to face, instead of having shit stolen from my room. Just me I guess.[/QUOTE]Luvpuss,
Its much easier to lose your passport if you carry it with you at all times in a bag. I got distracted for a minute by a personal problem. Soon my bag was missing.
Only take your passport when you really need it. Its much safer in the Hotel.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1190663]If you don't want to walk they do have outcall service.[/QUOTE]Yes they do outcall, I know, I mainly eat in the restaurant and take away taste always different but in this case, it was worth the walk anyway and additionally,
1- Had several LT girls overnight last few weeks and was looking for something different
2- In a MP, I like it when the girls are messing around with a lot of oil for BTB and if you do that in your room on the white sheets, it will be a slippery sleep and will need a bit of an explanation the day after
3- I checked out from my hotel already and wanted a MP with a decent shower
John
[QUOTE=David_33;1190651]¿How much?[/QUOTE]The price for the BTB is 1000 Thb, I did not bargain this time and maybe it was a bit too much with the 550Thb paid for the 90 min on top of it, a ST bang will cost in some places almost the same but it's not easy to compare always the price with what you gone get for it if you look for a change now and then. Anyway, the girl had to work really hard for these 1000Thb and let me cum.
John
[QUOTE=John Euro; 1190965]The price for the BTB is 1000 Thb.
John[/QUOTE]BTB (not in the FAQ) is body-to-body?
Titmouse
[QUOTE=Titmouse; 1191113]BTB (not in the FAQ) is body-to-body?
Titmouse[/QUOTE]It is a LB term. Bareback to Butt.
[QUOTE=Susu Lover; 1190806]Just a story about my first time in LOS. No pictures.
I was feeling nostalgic and a restless about my next trip to PI / LOS. Then, I remembered my rookie trip to LOS. I had read the forum (ISG) but it just didn't seem real to me at the time. They just seem like traveler's stories that were over-exaggerated, and most the guys seemed narcissistic about their conquests. Fc*K, I didn't not know what the hell I was in for when I arrived.
I am a young guy so I thought I would fake it all and buy a big back-pak as if I was about to go f'ing back-pakin' across the world. LOL. I bought a travel book and decided to spend my first night on Khoa San Road. It was really cool IMHO, I could have spent more time there. They had some killer live alternative-rock bands and my first Singha was awesome while in that mix. I walked aimlessly through the streets of Bangkok, from chinatown to the palace to eventually sukhumvit. What an enormous city. I lived on the internet until I found a hotel close to cowboy and poised myself for my first mongering night.
It was wild. All alone in the Thai city of angels and it was fast moving. Almost too fast. Going out clubbing after the go-go and getting hammered and dancing all night. Then shaggin with what little energy I had left. I decided I needed to slow down and I took a taxi to Pattaya not knowing WTF I was in for. I remember my first hotel. Flipper Lodge, towards the end of Soi 8. And I wanted to relax? LOL. All the bars. All the massage places. Street food. And the undiscovered soapies (which I later came back to Bangkok to experience again). I was on walking street and had visited more than a few bars (this is when I drank beer instead of low proof liquors with mixers now) and more than few beers. I think I was in Living Dolls when I see a tall stunner. I invited her timidly down for a LD. She pointed to herself and questioned "Me?", and of course I nodded yes.
That's when I found out that she was f'ing mute. Which, if you think about it, was kind of cool. Because, shit, the language barrier is a big thing in LOS. She was lively and fun. Entertaining. I BF'd her and took her back to the loom for some more sign language training. She was so eager to please, I felt that she was somehow over looked or farm fresh. She was so silent while trying to communicate, soft and graceful. But when we finally started to get into it, she grunted and exhaled like she was lifting heavy weights. When I began talking to her chest to chest. She motioned to me that she could hear me and it drove her wild, that p*ssy just got sloppy and everything got way sexy.
The girls in Bangkok were mercenary for sure, but this girl was straight out of Issan and I felt like I had discovered something simple and timeless. I didn't fall in love with heror anything so foolish, but I did fall in love with the idea that sex could be so simple. So uncomplicated. I wasn't a guy looking for something sexually exotic or deviant. But I saw it all there and respected those who did. It was disneyland, some guys hang around Adventureland, some guys Frontierland. But for me it was fantasyland and I was cool just being there.
There great thing about the mute girl (lek I think) was that she didn't call me, and her txts were short and sweet. We hooked up again towards the end of my trip, and I never saw her again.
Such is the way in LOS. Be safe out there.
Susu[/QUOTE]My dream! A girl who doesn't talk! Ah! Ah!
No Johns were charged in this raid.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Coconut Bar' raid by Pattaya Police.
Pattaya Police are currently undertaking a 'Social Order Crackdown' following orders from Senior Officers to clean up the streets of Pattaya, concentrating on all forms of anti-social behavior. It was the turn of women and men, suspected of working as prostitutes on Pattaya Beach to be targeted as part of the crackdown and in the early hours of Saturday 26 people were detained pending further investigations. The group who were taken from the beach which is affectionately referred to as the 'Coconut Bar' by some, consisted of 16 women and 10 transsexuals. They were charged with loitering and received small fines before being released back on to the streets, presumably to continue whatever they were doing in the first place
Thanks for the info on taxi. I think I'm going to book ahead to get from the airport to Pattaya so I can pay around 1100. Now, I think I've decided on either LK Metropole or Pasadena Lounge for hotels. Both seem to come well recommended. Can anyone chime in on the best way to book your hotel? Direct with hotel / orbitz / or is it maybe better to book once physically there?
I guess I'm just wanting what will be cheapest and most hassel free.
[QUOTE=Chichichi; 1191703]Thanks for the info on taxi. I think I'm going to book ahead to get from the airport to Pattaya so I can pay around 1100. Now, I think I've decided on either LK Metropole or Pasadena Lounge for hotels. Both seem to come well recommended. Can anyone chime in on the best way to book your hotel? Direct with hotel / orbitz / or is it maybe better to book once physically there?
I guess I'm just wanting what will be cheapest and most hassel free.[/QUOTE]I found this website, and it seems to be pretty good, I'm planning my trip for next may, just do search on each hotel. They are ranging from $25 and up, depends on what you want. I found 3 so far we may go with. I hope I helped some what. They guys post pretty good info here. Also try this, it has some maps that map help you on location of the hotels.
[url]http://www.pattayabarguide.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Chichichi; 1191703]Thanks for the info on taxi. I think I'm going to book ahead to get from the airport to Pattaya so I can pay around 1100. Now, I think I've decided on either LK Metropole or Pasadena Lounge for hotels. Both seem to come well recommended. Can anyone chime in on the best way to book your hotel? Direct with hotel / orbitz / or is it maybe better to book once physically there?
I guess I'm just wanting what will be cheapest and most hassel free.[/QUOTE]A lot of people go to Agoda and book a cheap room for one night. When you get there, you can spend a few hours walking around and go into a few hotels and get the rates.
It usually works out great. But, if you don't pre-book a room during a busy time, lets say Chinese New Year, most places will be sold out.
[QUOTE=Chichichi; 1191703]Thanks for the info on taxi. I think I'm going to book ahead to get from the airport to Pattaya so I can pay around 1100. Now, I think I've decided on either LK Metropole or Pasadena Lounge for hotels. Both seem to come well recommended. Can anyone chime in on the best way to book your hotel? Direct with hotel / orbitz / or is it maybe better to book once physically there?
I guess I'm just wanting what will be cheapest and most hassel free.[/QUOTE]I've used Agoda. Com for booking my international hotels, never a problem. After making your purchase, you need to print the voucher and take it to your hotel of choice. As to guest friendly hotels, just Google "girl friendly hotels in Pattaya."
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1191664]No Johns were charged in this raid.
_____________________________________________________________________________.
Coconut Bar' raid by Pattaya Police.
Pattaya Police are currently undertaking a 'Social Order Crackdown' following orders from Senior Officers to clean up the streets of Pattaya, concentrating on all forms of anti-social behavior. It was the turn of women and men, suspected of working as prostitutes on Pattaya Beach to be targeted as part of the crackdown and in the early hours of Saturday 26 people were detained pending further investigations. The group who were taken from the beach which is affectionately referred to as the 'Coconut Bar' by some, consisted of 16 women and 10 transsexuals. They were charged with loitering and received small fines before being released back on to the streets, presumably to continue whatever they were doing in the first place[/QUOTE]The police get their money and life goes on. Got to love it!
thanks for responses guys. this is why i like this site to get helpful knowledge. i figured maybe there is a "best practice" for most things such as booking hotels. maybe agoda is better than orbitz. i've never used it before. i think since it's early sep the hotels shouldn't be books so maybe i will wonder a round a bit and see what i like in person.
one last question is i'm wondering an awesome "can't miss" place in pattaya for my first destination upon arrival. i've done bangkok and i guess in exchange i'd say some "can't miss" places there are thermae, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] bj bar, and rainbow 2 in nana. when i arrived at bangkok 6 months ago my first stop was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. a fun start i'd say. thanks again.
[quote=luvpuss; 1191938]a lot of people go to agoda and book a cheap room for one night. when you get there, you can spend a few hours walking around and go into a few hotels and get the rates.
it usually works out great. but, if you don't pre-book a room during a busy time, lets say chinese new year, most places will be sold out.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1191968]The police get their money and life goes on. Got to love it![/QUOTE]During 2005-2006, before the coup, there were months at a time when I would go down to the beach promenade and see not a girl (or for that matter any normal Thai person) all night. Just roving groups of black-shirted 'police'. If they want to end our fun, they can end it, and they have before. The anti-sex party is back in power, and things are not looking good for the future of our hobby in Thailand, gentlemen.
Even the moderate crackdown reported below has definitely brought the number of girls down, and in particular run off the better looking and younger ones.
[quote=chichichi; 1192000]thanks for responses guys. this is why i like this site to get helpful knowledge. i figured maybe there is a "best practice" for most things such as booking hotels. maybe agoda is better than orbitz. i've never used it before. i think since it's early sep the hotels shouldn't be books so maybe i will wonder a round a bit and see what i like in person.
one last question is i'm wondering an awesome "can't miss" place in pattaya for my first destination upon arrival. i've done bangkok and i guess in exchange i'd say some "can't miss" places there are thermae, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] bj bar, and rainbow 2 in nana. when i arrived at bangkok 6 months ago my first stop was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. a fun start i'd say. thanks again.[/quote]they also have a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in pats on soi 10.
devil's den, sabailand, etc. are sure things.
if you want variety, walk down soi 6. to me, it may be one of the greatest, if not the greatest mongering street in the world. there are hundreds of girls on the street at the front of bars. you don't have to buy them a drink if you do not want to. just pick one from out front, tell her you want to bang, and take her up to the room. the normal rate is 700 baht and 300 for the room. every session i have had there has been bbbj, kissing, and sex for 30-40 minutes. all the places i have been to there have had showers.
there are so many options. sw / fl's on beach road, bar girls, gogo's, mp's. can't think of much of anything there that is not a "can't miss".
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1192046]During 2005-2006, before the coup, there were months at a time when I would go down to the beach promenade and see not a girl (or for that matter any normal Thai person) all night. Just roving groups of black-shirted 'police'. If they want to end our fun, they can end it, and they have before. The anti-sex party is back in power, and things are not looking good for the future of our hobby in Thailand, gentlemen.
Even the moderate crackdown reported below has definitely brought the number of girls down, and in particular run off the better looking and younger ones.[/QUOTE]If the beach area is more of a mixed bag rather than a monger dominated scene, then it is understandable that the authorities might want to keep regular tourists from being exposed to loitering scantily clad prostitutes and their come ons. Especially if foreigners are also encountering problems there such as being hassled, robbed, and assaulted by those associated with P4P, whether they be LB's, pimps, drug dealers, etc.
However I'd suggest the "moderate crackdown" that just occurred was more of a slap on the wrist than a real deterrent to ladies hooking there, and perhaps mainly just for public show to give confidence towards tourism to Sin City. Give it a few days and they all may be back again, especially if they have the persistance of those in the capitol. {For sure tubs giving the V sign like a young hot Japanese model will be. As Miss V parades her figure up and down the street, she'll feel like she's a superstar. Though next time, instead of "loitering", she may have the good sense to do things like walk around, buy something, and blend in. }
The SW scene in the heart of the farang monger zone in Bangkok has not experienced any police crackdowns I am aware of since the new government came in. In fact it was earlier this year before Yingluck gained power that these FLs were often getting chased down by the BIB for the 1000 baht fine. This was during the tail end of the high season when the cops were more likely to get a good payday on their regular blitzkreigs. {I heard reports of them swooping in on the girls up to 6 times a night, even chasing them into nearby bars and hotel bathrooms where they'd run to hide. Somebody should have videotaped this and put it on youtube. } Since then the quality of P4P TGs has been as good or better than ever before, post mid 2007, and at the same price of 1000 baht ST. Now as it is the low rainy season with few customers, LE have much less incentive to trouble the ladies.
Re your references to 2005-6, I doubt such a police presence could be justified by mere prostitution alone. In these type of situations SWs often simply move to another area or can be contacted via cell, email, etc. It is virtually impossible for the government to shut down our fun, and I doubt that that is what they want anyway, since P4P is a Thai institution {far larger amongst the Thais themselves BTW}, and its foreign element brings too much employment and income to the Kingdom. Any appearances to the contrary are mainly just a show of face, which is one of the few things that really matter in Asia. Here face is more important than fact. Fun and play more vital than knowledge and truth.
So, all in all, I am quite encouraged by future prospects in the Kingdom. What concerns me is how to best enjoy the other half year when I am not here. Maybe Cambodia with its Viet girls and "me love you LT for 5 dolla"? Or Hong Kong with its abundance of white skinned stunners?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1192060]If you want variety, walk down Soi 6. To me, it may be one of the greatest, if not the greatest mongering street in the world. There are hundreds of girls on the street at the front of bars. You don't have to buy them a drink if you do not want to. Just pick one from out front, tell her you want to bang, and take her up to the room. The normal rate is 700 baht and 300 for the room. Every session I have had there has been BBBJ, kissing, and sex for 30-40 minutes. All the places I have been to there have had showers.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a good thing. So these ladies are much like SWs, there being no bar fine or LDs required to be paid for, and they are standing on the street? What's in it for the bar, then, or are they not employed by the bars? Can they be taken back to one's hotel room? Are there any hotels closeby that would be quiet for sleeping & monger friendly? I suppose the area could be quite noisy day & night which could lead to insomnia.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1192148]This sounds like a good thing. So these ladies are much like SWs, there being no bar fine or LDs required to be paid for, and they are standing on the street? What's in it for the bar, then, or are they not employed by the bars? Can they be taken back to one's hotel room? Are there any hotels closeby that would be quiet for sleeping & monger friendly? I suppose the area could be quite noisy day & night which could lead to insomnia.[/QUOTE]They aren't like SWs, they work for the bar. You can buy drinks and LDs in the bar as much as you like, up to you. If you want her to go with you, there will be a barfine. If you stay in the bar, you just pay the bar for a room. I have occasionally paid 1000 overnight after closing time (around 1am or 2am).
All hotels along Beach Road. 2nd Road, and the sois off them, are pretty much close by (10 baht songteaw ride). There are very many.
There are not "100s" of girls, though. I wish there were. And there are a few ladyboy bars.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1192148]This sounds like a good thing. So these ladies are much like SWs, there being no bar fine or LDs required to be paid for, and they are standing on the street? What's in it for the bar, then, or are they not employed by the bars? Can they be taken back to one's hotel room? Are there any hotels closeby that would be quiet for sleeping & monger friendly? I suppose the area could be quite noisy day & night which could lead to insomnia.[/QUOTE]No no, they are regular bar girls, but not of the "open beer bar" variety. These are closed bars, with the girls standing outside to drag you in (if you let them). Once inside in the small bar area, there is enough opportunity to sample her wares while she enjoys her ladydrink and she checks your equipment out. If you are happy with what you see, you go to the room (upstairs or in the back). These are most of the time ST girls. They are less interested in LT, unless.I guess- business is slow, it is already late, they want to spend the night in a nice aircon room or they really like you.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1192271]There are not "100s" of girls, though.[/QUOTE]A rough calculation: At least 30 or 40 bars in total in Soi 6, with each no less than 5 girls outside plus a few inside "at work".
That still makes for a sizable flock of girls. I would not be surprised if indeed there are at any time 200 teeracs to choose from.
On the positive side Soi 6 is the sleaziest street on the globe! At times I feel shy to walk from one end to the other with all those chicks around + comments! Enuff said.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1192280]A rough calculation: At least 30 or 40 bars in total in Soi 6, with each no less than 5 girls outside plus a few inside "at work".
That still makes for a sizable flock of girls. I would not be surprised if indeed there are at any time 200 teeracs to choose from.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1191967]I've used Agoda. Com for booking my international hotels, never a problem. After making your purchase, you need to print the voucher and take it to your hotel of choice. As to guest friendly hotels, just Google "girl friendly hotels in Pattaya."[/QUOTE]The thing I've found with Agoda (though maybe not in all cases) is that they many times impose tighter conditions than if you book directly with the hotel.
First of all, you might be paying up front for your stay.
You might lose money if you cut your stay short.
Cancellation and changes can cost you, and have earlier cut-off times for doing so (than booking direct with the hotel.)
Refunds can take a week.
Sometimes they might quote a rate (non-inclusive of taxes and booking fees) that turns out to be equal to (or higher) than the hotel's all-inclusive rates. If it is equal to booking directly with the hotel, but you have to prepay everything and have earlier cancellation times (and fees) it's not a deal.
Agoda is a great search engine for finding hotels. But once you find one you're interested in, check out other deals elsewhere too. And pay close attention to the terms for taxes, cancellation fees, refunds, etc.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1192148]This sounds like a good thing. So these ladies are much like SWs, there being no bar fine or LDs required to be paid for, and they are standing on the street? What's in it for the bar, then, or are they not employed by the bars? Can they be taken back to one's hotel room? Are there any hotels closeby that would be quiet for sleeping & monger friendly? I suppose the area could be quite noisy day & night which could lead to insomnia.[/QUOTE]It is 700 for the girl and 300 for the room.
They are attached to the bar because a lot wear uniforms.
The bar obviously makes money on the room. I don't know if they share any of the girls 700.
I have never purchased a drink for a girl and just pick one and take her to the room.
Also, there are easily 100's of girls. You have to see it to believe it. As you walk or drive down the street they are all out front of the bars waving and cheering.
From my experience, it is the greatest mongering street I have experienced for quantity, quality, service and price.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1192271]There are not "100s" of girls, though.[/QUOTE]Sure there are, at least throughout the peak hours from mid-afternoon to early evening. The problem is that most of them are either fat, ugly, overaged, or male.
Don't get me wrong, I still love Soi 6, but it can take a lot of looking these days to find a good one there. And the best ones you seldom even see out front because they're usually either inside or upstairs with customers.
Arrive this weekend. Can anyone chime in on any decent bars / go-gos outside the WS scene; particularly Soi's 7 & 8 between Beach Road. And Second Road? That's one area we didn't explore on our initial visit. Anything worth hitting there, is the quality not as good, etc? Also, is there any particular sports bar in any area of Pattaya with American sports being shown? Just a thought.
My Pattaya visit after 4 years (usually monger in Indonesia). Arrived at 1800, checked in at LK Metropole on soi Diana. Took a walk around to survey the area, beer bars open, go-go's shut. I am quite picky on quality, so prefer the go-go bar girls. At 9:30 pm, entered Champions go-go in Walking Street where girls were dancing topless. Took me only 5 minutes to decide which girl I wanted for the night (IMHO the hottest girl there) , name Mint. 18 yrs (so she claimed). Was working there since 1 mth. Bar fine 600 baht, she insisted on 2000 for her, which I brought down to 1500 (sorry if I overpaid, not been here since long, hence not sure of prevailing rates). Went to Angel Witch to watch the show, then dinner, then back in my room by midnight, first pop, she was quite into it, then shower together, back on bed, talking with foreplay for 20-30 minutes, then second pop. Slept like a baby, woke up at 10, asked her if she wanted to go down for breakfast, she instead prefered to sleep. Got her naked and played with her tits and ass while she slept with my dick in her hand. Finally 3rd pop. Around 1 pm she said she had to meet her friends (it was her day off) and she would call me later in the evening. She hasn't called and didn't answer my phone, so will be finding another companion for the night, let's see what fate has in store. BTW yesterday evening noticed few freelancers making eye contact, some quite cute, however did not muster the courage to approach. Will keep posting.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192658]My Pattaya visit after 4 years (usually monger in Indonesia). Arrived at 1800, checked in at LK Metropole on soi Diana. Took a walk around to survey the area, beer bars open, go-go's shut. I am quite picky on quality, so prefer the go-go bar girls. At 9:30 pm, entered Champions go-go in Walking Street where girls were dancing topless. Took me only 5 minutes to decide which girl I wanted for the night (IMHO the hottest girl there) , name Mint. 18 yrs (so she claimed). Was working there since 1 mth. Bar fine 600 baht, she insisted on 2000 for her, which I brought down to 1500 (sorry if I overpaid, not been here since long, hence not sure of prevailing rates). Went to Angel Witch to watch the show, then dinner, then back in my room by midnight, first pop, she was quite into it, then shower together, back on bed, talking with foreplay for 20-30 minutes, then second pop. Slept like a baby, woke up at 10, asked her if she wanted to go down for breakfast, she instead prefered to sleep. Got her naked and played with her tits and ass while she slept with my dick in her hand. Finally 3rd pop. Around 1 pm she said she had to meet her friends (it was her day off) and she would call me later in the evening. She hasn't called and didn't answer my phone, so will be finding another companion for the night, let's see what fate has in store. BTW yesterday evening noticed few freelancers making eye contact, some quite cute, however did not muster the courage to approach. Will keep posting.[/QUOTE]I am planning to go to Pattaya on Jan. 2012. Keep posting man, let us know how your trip go.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1192653]Arrive this weekend. Can anyone chime in on any decent bars / go-gos outside the WS scene; particularly Soi's 7 & 8 between Beach Road. And Second Road? That's one area we didn't explore on our initial visit. Anything worth hitting there, is the quality not as good, etc? Also, is there any particular sports bar in any area of Pattaya with American sports being shown? Just a thought.[/QUOTE]Did you try googling "Sports bars in Pattaya". There are several.
As far as your other bar question. There are probably 100 or more bars in the areas you are considering. It is kind of a personal choice, isn't it. My best suggestion is to walk around and find one that fits what you are looking for.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1192701]Did you try googling "Sports bars in Pattaya". There are several.
As far as your other bar question. There are probably 100 or more bars in the areas you are considering. It is kind of a personal choice, isn't it. My best suggestion is to walk around and find one that fits what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I don't know how I overlooked the obvious?!?!?!
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192658]BTW yesterday evening noticed few freelancers making eye contact, some quite cute, however did not muster the courage to approach.[/QUOTE]I know what you are saying, but seriously, no courage required. You both want the same transaction; it's certainly not unusual or embarrassing for them, and they are on the whole pretty relaxed about it. If negotiations go wrong you can always just walk away, and remember you will never see them again unless you choose to.
My second time in Pattaya, my second August in a row.
All opinions and comments obviously reflect and are the result of:
1- me being a tourist in town for a few days only
2- my own body type preferences: slim and leggy girls for sure; tall, no silicone and under 30 if possible.
[color=maroon][b][size=3]SOI LK METRO[/size][/b][/color]
Afternoon visits only.
[b]DEVIL'S DEN[/b]
I showed up a couple of days in advance of my desired date and time, and asked to book Cake + a friend of her choice: you have to leave a 1000 baht deposit.
Cake is quite tall, I think 1.67 she told me, slim but with slightly saggy tits. The friend she opted for, Kayla, is a lot shorter, with a pretty smile and a decent enough figure.
I showed them a video and asked for a reverse deep-throat with one of them lying face-up on the bed: it seemed to me that Kayla had never tried that before, since she quickly volunteered with anticipation but also asked Cake for instructions.
Next up was a double penetration of Cake, Kayla doing her pussy with a strap-on and I doing her ass. It took a little while for Kayla and myself to get the thrusting rhythm right, but once we got going we didn’t let up until I came. Cake, while participating nicely with hands and soft moans, was quite clearly totally nonplussed about the proceedings.
In between sessions we chatted a bit (as best as we could since Kayla doesn’t really speak English): Cake volunteered a funny story about her not being able to perform a certain stunt a customer asked, then Kayla’s leg cramped and instead of helping we tickled her… These girls have seen it all and are quite sporty and very open: a pity I don’t speak Thai because I’m sure you can have a lot of non sexual fun with them.
Cake - [url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/profile.php?idEscort=27[/url]
Kayla - [url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/profile.php?idEscort=134[/url]
[b]CHAMPAGNE gogo bar[/b]
Nice little place, not a lot of girls but always at least 5 young ones on stage, really starts to get going around 6pm but you can definitely show up earlier and find the same ladies. Good atmosphere, on my first visit there were a couple of older customers with big black shades dancing with the waitresses, on the second one another guy was getting a foot job on the couches…
Chose a spinner who loved to dance, selected through the mamasan, and went to consume in the nearby Kilkenny hotel, which is owned by the same Australian boss of the gogo, and therefore doubles up as a short-time-room accomodation.
All in all a pretty good afternoon option as long as you don’t mind the final expenditure: 600 barfine + 1500 for service + the necessary couple drinks + the possible tip + the possible short time hotel = 2500/3000 baht, keeping in mind that in the afternoon you can’t do long-time take outs.
For less than that you can do a DD girl next door of comparable looks but infinitely better sex skills.
Interesting bit: the staff gets fined 5 baht for every minute of lateness.
[b]OASIS gogo bar[/b]
Not really in soi LK Metro, but that's the area: around 5pm there were only chubby and/or older women.
[color=maroon][b][size=3]SOI 6[/size][/b][/color]
A little less entertaining then how I remembered it from last year visit: on two different days, weekday and weekend, both in the afternoon and around midnight, there were very few customers. Some of the girls and ladyboys do their best to liven up the street with the soi 6 trademark calling/running/holding, but there’s only so much they can do.
I had a drink here and there, but the only 2 bars which not only had girls in a uniform but also made an effort to present them well, were LISA (close to Beach Rd) and SAIGON (close to Second Rd).
Personally I wish that more of the girls would make an effort to stand up and let you asses them properly, but then again with few exceptions, and cost aside, I think you should never choose soi 6 ladies based on their appearance, but based on them being a little crazy and/or willing to do anal. You can check my choice in the pic below.
I remember reading somewhere that soi 6 can be a bit rough/dangerous at night: while I can’t conclusively dispute that, both times I showed up around midnight (bars close at 1am) I felt safe and couldn’t see anything dodgy going on. It must be said that I was sober.
A note: walking towards the beach in the late afternoon you’ll be blinded by the sun and won’t be able to leisurely check out the ladies.
[color=maroon][b][size=3]BEACH ROAD[/size][/b][/color]
Last year the Beach Rd left me very underwhelmed, but I now think it was possibly because of the market. This year I noticed a vast amount of girls, I would say probably about 100 by day and 200 in the evening, in the stretch between soi 8 and soi 13.
Not many will approach you, and quite a few have a kind of dead look, but if street walkers/freelancers is your thing then there are definitely some ladies worth a closer inspection.
[color=maroon][b][size=3]BEER BARS[/size][/b][/color]
Compared to gogo bars, the beer bars seem to attract an older crowd: many customers appeared to me to be regulars and well acquainted with the staff.
In my pics below you’ll see a few bar girls: I didn’t have sex with any of them, they were just fun girls I took photos with. Still, I guess they could be representative of the average quality available.
[b]SOI 7 and 8[/b]
Can I say that I was expecting more?
I was introduced to Thai beer bars in Patong (Phuket), and since then that has been my basis for comparison.
In this case I found both sois to offer very average quality, few customers and even less atmosphere. Plenty of ladyboys, of course.
[b]SECOND ROAD[/b]
There are small complexes of bars all along Second Rd, but very few customers.
[b]WALKING ST[/b]
These are the bars I enjoyed the most: more action, some pole dancers, girls spoke better English.
[color=maroon][b][size=3]WALKING ST GOGOs[/size][/b][/color]
With one single exception, at every gogo I visited I stayed at least for 2 lineups, and many of them I visited twice or more: still, with a sample of 6 days only, obviously this isn't a statistical study.
Costs, as reported here, are somewhat fixed: 600 barfine, 1500/2000 short time, 3000 long time.
During this holiday I made an effort to always talk to the mamasan before finalizing my choice: it may cost you an extra drink, but the benefits are undeniable.
[b]AIRPORT[/b]
Probably would not barfine from this gogo as the dancers are average, but it’s a fun venue to spend time: great energy.
Together with the Moon Club has the best looking waitresses.
A very cute spinner doing pirouettes on the wet stage!, and better tub/soap girls than I remembered from last year.
[b]ALCATRAZ[/b]
A big venue that left me a bit baffled: plenty of girls inside, but very few dancing at any given time. Pity because I found the jailer costumes they wore quite appealing.
Possibly a couple of ladyboys.
Only gogo with a toilet attendant.
[b]ANGELWITCH[/b]
Waited 20 minutes for some show to manifest itself. The girls were below average. I left.
[b]BABYDOLLS[/b]
One of the “interaction” gogos, where you can finger/lick/spank girls.
The quality was otherwise very low.
Ladies on stage were dancing barefoot.
[b]BACCARA[/b]
Of those I visited, and apparently agreed upon by everyone, the gogo with the best looking girls, and they have more than 100 employed.
The best place to have guilty fun with ping pong balls.
If a dancer wants an extra day off (they get 3 a month, and this is common to all gogos), she has to pay a barfine of 1000 baht, not 600 as it used to be.
Selected 2 different ladies here, one of which is 1.72 tall!
[b]CAROUSEL[/b]
They would have the best stage, a round rotating one, but quality is poor. When you’re watching videos of Jap girls instead of the dancers, you know you have to get out.
[b]CASNOVY[/b]
Instead of 1 or 2 stages, they have about 15, all of which can only accommodate 1 dancer.
There are 2 or 3 ladies, defined by mamasan as “top girls”, which command a barfine of 1000 baht, but otherwise regular take out prices. You pay in full immediately, which had me a bit worried, but the girl came through with an excellent performance worthy of a good tip and a repeat.
When a customer barfines a girl the mamasan goes around to touch the staff with the money she has received, I guess it’s some kind of good luck thing.
[b]CAVERN[/b]
Chubby average girls, few customers.
[b]FAHRENHEIT[/b]
Plenty of girls outside, barely any inside.
[b]HAPPY[/b]
I like Happy. It’s a smaller venue were girls put effort into their dancing and try to establish eye contact.
Various body types to satisfy every customer, without any fugly around.
I would estimate about 50 ladies to choose from.
[b]IRON[/b]
Poor seating, few girls and less customers.
[b]MOON[/b]
Apparently opened a couple of months ago, this gets my nod as the best gogo for the overall experience.
- all the staff was extremely pleasant, especially the mamasan who sat chatting with me for a good 10 minutes.
- some good looking waitresses
- a couple of mixed-blood ladies doing shows
- one half naked farang lady customer having the time of her life fingering everything that got near her, and having her nipples sucked
- above average dancers
- my own choice, who proved to be the best gogo fuck of this holiday
Here too you pay in full in advance.
[b]PEPPERMINT[/b]
Average girls, a bit pushy for drinks, ok dancing.
[b]SUPERGIRL[/b]
Short cute girls with hair and make-up aimed at our Japanese brothers.
Also the songs played were strictly Jap.
[b]WINDMILL[/b]
The interaction place for excellence: bananas and dildos flying around, free fingering, the noisy whips, customers getting underneath the shower too. Not my kind of place but packed and very entertaining, with guys having mad fun.
[color=maroon][b][size=3]HOTEL[/size][/b][/color]
Last year I liked the [i][b]MERCURE[/b][/i], and saw no reason to change: girlfriendly, private safe, quiet, good pool.
[url]http://www.mercure.com/gb/hotel-5649-mercure-hotel-pattaya/index.shtml[/url]
[color=maroon][b][size=3]RESTAURANTS[/size][/b][/color]
[b]RUEN THAI[/b]
Kind of famous and highly rated on TripAdvisor: can I say tourist trap, or was it just an unlucky choice of dishes? They have an ok traditional dancing show, but the (supposedly) Thai food was beyond bland.
[b]FUJI and OISHI RAMEN[/b]
Both located inside the Central Festival shopping mall, and both a disappointment.
At Fuji the sushi is too cheap for the fish to be good, and at the ramen place the soup is a poor attempt at replicating the Japanese original.
[b]ZICO’S[/b]
Last year I tried the Samui branch, and I can confirm that if you like meat and Brazilian Churrasco in particular, this should be a stop. At 1000 baht for all you can eat food and a couple of beers it isn’t cheap by Thai standards, but being a buffet it’s up to you to make it count! And if you exaggerate a bit you can always take a “pleasant”, digestive stroll along the Beach Rd all the way to Walking St.
[b]KING SEAFOOD[/b]
One of the seafood restaurants at the beginning of Walking St on the right (sea side).
An acceptable touristy choice if you keep within the Thai menu, but the seafood isn’t worth the price.
[b]SEAFOOD something[/b]
I could be confused, but I think it’s in soi Lucky Star off Walking St, past the pool tables: typical no frills place with plastic chairs where you can order both seafood and traditional Thai dishes a lot cheaper then what it would cost you in a place like the above mentioned King Seafood. Quite a few bargirl/customer couples, and it's open until very late.
[color=maroon][b][size=3]RANDOM TIDBITS AND OBSERVATIONS[/size][/b][/color]
[b]FARANGS[/b]
Compared to last year I noticed an increase of shirtless guys: aged 30 to 50, showing off their muscles and tattoos, they parade around at all times, even in Walking St in the early evening among the throngs of regular tourists.
I have no further comment.
[b]WEATHER[/b]
- last year 3 days: one and a half sunny, 1 drizzle.
- this year 6 days: four sunny ones, 2 showers, 1 drizzle.
Am I just lucky or the climate in August in Pattaya is always this good?
[b]CENTRAL FESTIVAL[/b]
If you decided to score regular girls the obvious targets would be the shop attendants at Central Festival mall, but as a single male in Pattaya, would they take you seriously?
Once in a while you’ll need a little respite from the sex madness of Pattaya: the theatre on the 6th floor understandably doesn’t play any European art-house stuff, but with 10 screens you’ll certainly find a couple of watchable flicks.
[b]LOGISTICS[/b]
Either along Second Rd or the Beach Rd, spare yourself the walk between soi 6 and soi 7: counterintuitive they are quite far apart and there’s nothing in that stretch.
[b]MASSAGE WITH(OUT) HAPPY ENDING[/b]
Went for a regular massage at a supposedly regular parlor on Second Road. Problem was, I was under the full effect of Cialis, and for a full hour couldn’t get rid of a raging erection. The young masseuse kept grabbing my cock asking I wanted to be relieved, but I didn’t intend to “waste” a shot, so I kept thanking her but passing on the offer. The least relaxing massage ever!
[b]VITAMINS[/b]
The first pharmacy I tried had original stuff at prices about 100 baht cheaper than what I was quoted along Sukhumvit in Bangkok: a bit lazy of me, but I didn’t look further.
Cialis (four 20g tablets): 2.200
Viagra (four 100g tablets): 2.200
Levitra (four 20g tablets): 2.000
Thanks as always to all those who contribute to the forum,
Ryo
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1192809]My second time in Pattaya, my second August in a row.
Ryo[/QUOTE]Excellent report, jotted down a few off your list to check out next week.
A few more pics from Pattaya
[QUOTE=Tucker McElroy;1192314]The thing I've found with Agoda (though maybe not in all cases) is that they many times impose tighter conditions than if you book directly with the hotel.[/QUOTE]Try.
[url]http://www.booking.com[/url]
Instead. No pre-payment, impeccable customer service anywhere in the world. No hidden taxes or add-ons. Most liberal cancellation policies I have ever seen.
After an hour in the gym and a swim, left hotel around 9 pm Direct to walking street. Saw two extremely sexy girls entering Alcatraz go-go. Decided to check it out but was denied entry (can you believe that) , they told me it was a members only club, which was hard to believe. I even offered to pay for 2 drinks upfront, but he didn't budge, probably didn't like the way I dressed or looked, maybe some senior members of the forum can explain. Didn't want to make a big issue as there were 100+ go-go bars out there where I could spend my money and make a selection. Next was Baccara. I found this club too crowded, mainly Japs and Koreans. There were 2 levels and dancers moved from one level to the other. Waited 30 minutes, didn't see anything I liked (Probably all the good ones were taken as it was past 10). Next stop Sharks go-go. Found a girl who I'd give a 7 (compared with the 9 the previous night). Name Tip, age 20 years, working there since 5 months. She and her friend sat topless on either side of me, both feeling my cock and discussing its size, she was all over me. From her attitude, I thought this girl would make up in performance (which I later figured was a mistake) , so barfined her 600 bahts. She wanted 2500, but settled for 2000 LT. After dinner, in my hotel room around midnight. She wants to shower alone, after she comes out, switches on TV and watches. I had to do all the work while she lay there dead and watched TV, her attitude totally changed from what it was at the club. This pissed me off and I decided to make it very clear to her. Kept pounding her in multiple positions for over an hour before I came. After 30 minutes, decided to go for 2nd round, but she wasn't interested and just lay there watching TV while I played with her tits, ass and pussy. Finally I gave up and decided to do her in the morning. We both slept. Around 4:30 a. M, she gets a call from her friend and decides to leave (she explained that they shared a bike and the keys were with her, her friend was waiting for the keys at WS). Told her that it was agreed that she would stay till 10, she asked for 1500 instead of the agreed 2000 but said she had to go. Overall not a very good night, I'm normally good at people profiling, but got this one wrong. Probably something to do with communication, her English was quite poor and I speak no Thai.
BTW does anybody know the rates of the club in WS which has 40 Russian girls, was approached by one hot Russian who asked me to go in, decided to pass and explore later. Will keep posting.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192844]Saw two extremely sexy girls entering Alcatraz go-go. Decided to check it out but was denied entry (can you believe that) , they told me it was a members only club, which was hard to believe. I even offered to pay for 2 drinks upfront, but he didn't budge, probably didn't like the way I dressed or looked, maybe some senior members of the forum can explain.[/QUOTE]What is your nationality? Also, please provide a height and weight profile and what you were wearing. You asked, we will try to answer.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1192823]Try.
[url]http://www.booking.com[/url]
Instead. No pre-payment, impeccable customer service anywhere in the world. No hidden taxes or add-ons. Most liberal cancellation policies I have ever seen.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I noticed that. The funny thing is they are both owned by the same parent company, Priceline.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192844]Around 4:30 a. M, she gets a call from her friend and decides to leave (she explained that they shared a bike and the keys were with her, her friend was waiting for the keys at WS).[/QUOTE]Always the same story of the keys. Happens everywhere.
We should put the question beforehand: do you need to give your keys to your friend before we go? LOL
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1192922]Always the same story of the keys. Happens everywhere.
We should put the question beforehand: do you need to give your keys to your friend before we go? LOL[/QUOTE]Maybe we should come up with a check list.
We could start with.
1. Keys for Bike.
2. Keys for room.
3. Do you have a friend who is sick.
4. Do you have a friend who has just been arrested.
5. Are you hungry.
6. Do you have to wake up early for school.
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1192915]What is your nationality? Also, please provide a height and weight profile and what you were wearing. You asked, we will try to answer.[/QUOTE]I believe there was a report recently that another guy had the same problem? He was either Black or Indian? I haven't been there but have been next door and had no problems and they say I look Thai? Might have to give it a try one night and see if they turn me away? If not, then they might have taken me for a high roller Japanese or Korean?
LBM
[QUOTE=Betong; 1192537]Sure there are, at least throughout the peak hours from mid-afternoon to early evening. The problem is that most of them are either fat, ugly, overaged, or male.
Don't get me wrong, I still love Soi 6, but it can take a lot of looking these days to find a good one there. And the best ones you seldom even see out front because they're usually either inside or upstairs with customers.[/QUOTE]Youtube videos of soi 6 confirm what you say. IMO SWs around NEP in BKK undoubtedly offer far better looks for the same price or less. That is factoring in 700 ST plus 300 room fee, or even more I assume for a BF if taken to one's hotel.
They may also be more convenient in the capitol for pickup and return to one's hotel. I can leave my room and be back again with the girl inside 10 minutes. This has the added benefit of no need to shower again, since I shower just before going out.
If soi 6 girls offered better service or the hotels & such in Pattaya were cheaper those would be factors favoring soi 6 in Pattaya. I think the latter is probably the case, but my guess is that the former is quite questionable.
All in all, though, from the looks of over 95% of the soi 6 girls on youtube, they'ld have to pay me to go with them. Bottom line, I think the scene I described in BKK is probably much better.
See the youtube video of prostitutes walking outside a Macau casino to get an idea of the quality of girl much more easily found as an SW in the capitol.
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1192915]What is your nationality? Also, please provide a height and weight profile and what you were wearing. You asked, we will try to answer.[/QUOTE]Was speaking to a fellow mongerer during breakfast and he claimed it was due to my Indian origin. I lived in India for 18 years before I left to study in Europe. Been working with multi-national company since 12 years and spend 9 out of 12 months working abroad in various places, some quite remote. I spend most of the remaining 3 months travelling and mongering, mainly in Indonesia and the Caribbean / S. America. I totally understand the Indian mindset where one is taught very early to save, however I do believe my mongering expenses on any given night easily exceed more than 70 percent of fellow mongerers of all nationalities. So it's a shame that due to some of my Indian brothers (who I admit do behave cheap and badly) , coloured guys like myself have to suffer. I have particularly noticed this kind of racial profiling in Thailand (probably because unlike Indonesia or Caribbean, I do not speak the local language, I speak decent Bahasa and Spanish). When I was in Pattaya 4 years ago, I had a similar problem in one of the go-go's (cannot remember name) , a bribe of 100 baht worked, similar problem in Phuket 2 years ago. This kind of problem has never been encountered in the Caribbean / S. America in so many visits. The clubs should be interested in who spends on drinks and pays bar fines, not on race and colour and even dressing.
I'm not sure maybe my dressing had something to do with it (T-shirt, shorts & slippers) , perhaps they have a dress code. Regarding appearance I'm 1. 72m and 75 kg in my early thirties, but I doubt that had anything to do with it. Senior members, please advise if I'm missing anything apart from the obvious stated in this message.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192952]Was speaking to a fellow mongerer during breakfast and he claimed it was due to my Indian origin... I totally understand the Indian mindset where one is taught very early to save,... So it's a shame that due to some of my Indian brothers (who I admit do behave cheap and badly) , coloured guys like myself have to suffer... I have particularly noticed this kind of racial profiling in Thailand ... When I was in Pattaya 4 years ago, I had a similar problem in one of the go-go's (cannot remember name) , a bribe of 100 baht worked, similar problem in Phuket 2 years ago.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the guy at breakfast told you right; if some go-go's think you are Indian they won't let you in and I've seen many Indians and Arabs waved away at the door.
I think it's the girls who complain because of stories or perhaps bad personal experiences with Indians, who they tell me "smell" bad, and try to cheat them of their fees. I've heard many stories from them about being taken by an Indian to his hotel only to find 3 or 4 of his friends who expect a gangbang.
Your situation would probably improve by dressing better and making sure you appear squeeky clean with a fat wallet. The girls love money more than they hate Indians.
Adrenalinrush,
I believe you got the right information. Indian, yes your brothers over breakfast gave you the right information and it is the shame. Your size and dress doesn't have much to do with it if the guy knew what to look for except the sterotype he was given. Depending on the T-shirt, shorts, and slippers if it doesn't look like what a Indian from India would wear if the guy had a brain he would have let you in. I walk around in my shorts, T-shirts and sandles but one can tell they aren't Thai made. Many of clubs I have gone to even in the darkside when I enter think I am the Thai police but take a second look and say nothing to me. This has been what I'm normally told when I go to a new club.
Sterotype, go to beach road near the end outside the tourist booth at night and see how they act and gang up on the girls. The girls I see with them visually seem very hardcore. Years ago I sat on Beach road watching and checking out the scene and saw a Indian in long dress strike up a conversation she walked away after a few second towards one of her girlfriends and I bascially overheard her in Thai say this stinky basterd want me for 250 baht, I might as well drive a taxi if I go for that.
LBM
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush; 1192952]This kind of problem has never been encountered in the Caribbean / S. America in so many visits. The clubs should be interested in who spends on drinks and pays bar fines, not on race and colour and even dressing.
I'm not sure maybe my dressing had something to do with it (T-shirt, shorts & slippers) , perhaps they have a dress code. Regarding appearance I'm 1. 72m and 75 kg in my early thirties, but I doubt that had anything to do with it. Senior members, please advise if I'm missing anything apart from the obvious stated in this message.[/QUOTE]I am sorry you had that experience. I hate racism in all forms. It should only matter who you are as a person, not what you look like. Every single girl I have had the pleasure of playing with, no matter what race, has been pink inside where it counts.
So far in all my travels the most color blind places on earth are Aruba and Curacao, followed by many other Caribbean islands. There are some exceptions, but in general there has been an intermingling of races in the Caribbean for around 300 years. There are very large Indian and Chinese populations on most islands as well as West Indians, South Americans and Europeans. Of course on most islands US culture and money is the driving force.
When you live on a small island, many of them smaller in area than Bangkok, you learn to get along with everyone. You have to.
The Caribbean is my home base for business and mongering. There is a warmth and passion found in the chicas that is both exciting and comforting.
I love LOS and hope to retire there, but the Caribbean will always be home.
Pogo
Spent the full day shopping on beach road. Yes, compared to 4 years ago, there are definitely more Indians and Arabs around, more on the street, more Indian & Arab restaurants and shops (I saw an entire street behind walking street full of bars, restaurants and shops owned by Arabs, they were all even playing Arabic music). The Chinese and Indian economies have done very well over the past 6-8 years, hence more can afford to travel and invest abroad. The cheapest places to go for holiday from India are Dubai, Malaysia and Thailand, Thailand being the only country among these to give visas on arrival to Indian nationals. Even flying between two far away cities in India costs about the same or more. Besides people have realized that a week's holiday in Thailand would cost them considerably less than one within India due to the extremely high hotel prices in India. Hence the greater number of Indians. Arab world and to a large extent India are sex-starved countries and cheapest and closest place to release is Thailand. So I know where all this is coming from. I just hope some of these guys improve their behavior, it's limiting my opportunities.
On another note, the 18 yr old hot number from my first night (from Champion go-go) called and said she would come to my room at 10, had a great time with her on day 1, so didn't turn it down. Was exploring other options on beach road but couldn't see anything I liked, all looked old and hardened, one has to be extremely lucky and patient to find something decent. Had drinks at 2 bars on my way back on soi Diana, saw 2-3 cute bargirls, will pursue if things go wrong tonight or perhaps keep that option for tomorrow, I prefer LT to ST.
This question should probably go in the hotel reports, however today I passed by Siam Bayshore and Siam Bayview hotels and asked if they charged a joiner fee. Contrary to reports in this forum, both clearly said if I booked a room for 2, there will be no joiner fee. In that case, I may move tomorrow. The only reason I checked in LK Metropole was because the forum reports suggested that the more upmarket hotels charge 800-1000 baht joiner fees, which I refuse to pay. If anyone has past experience at these hotels please share. Will keep posting.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192952]The clubs should be interested in who spends on drinks and pays bar fines, not on race and colour and even dressing.[/QUOTE]Well said, but this has to do with both culture and being business oriented.
Thre are clubs in some places (not referring to Thailand) that accepts weird characteres and beahviour as the guys spend a lot of money in there. Not a correct business module too as one risks to have decent guys spending decent money going away from certain wild crowds.
You are intelleginte and well educated, thanks god, to know all this and it is to be appreacited you ahev the right attitude in facing these troubles!
My simpathy (I am white, but not always proud! LOL)
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1192960]The girls love money more than they hate Indians.[/QUOTE]Should be printed in some bars! .
My girl from day 1 who called & said she would come to my room at 10 was a no-show. I called her up at 11 and she took my room no. And said she would be there by midnight, then at 11:30 she calls and says something about her friend leaving for Bangkok to meet her mom and she would meet me the next day (I didn't bother understanding and hung up on her). I was upset as I knew that by midnight, all the good girls in most go-go's would have gone. Anyway, I decided to check out the go-go's on soi LK, just behind my hotel. First Submarine go-go, quite a small place but crowded. Saw all the pretty girls were already sitting with customers. There were few young really chubby ones, they looked really young. The one I had my eye on was sitting with a group of North African guys (Arabs) , some big spenders who already had 2-3 stunners with them from other places. They left without her so I bought her a drink, she knew English well, but refused to go for LT, only ST which would cost me 600 barfine + 200 for room + 1500 for girl (she refused to come down and refused to walk to my hotel just down the road). Mamasan said it was only her second day at work and she lived alone with her mum, she was 19 (could not tell if info was true). IMHO, LT is better value for money and for a few hundred more, I prefer to sleep with a beautiful lady in my arms, plus the morning pop. So I got up and left, it was well past 1, next stop Office go-go, larger place, also quite crowded, had a drink here, did not see anything interesting, so moved on to next stop Champagne go-go, where there were quite a few good-looking women still available (it appeared so since I was already 7-8 drinks down). Chose one called Pay (18 whyear old verified from her I. The, quite tall around 1. 70 mtrs, good attitude, barfined her 600 bahts, she wanted 2000 to stay till noon, it was already almost 3. Have her in my room, will continue report tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1193151]I was upset as I knew that by midnight, all the good girls in most go-go's would have gone.[/QUOTE]Interesting reports dude. If you need a girl late at night then try clubs on walking street. Lucifers, Insomnia (go after 1 am) , Marine disco (something similar) , minx (less FL) would be worth checking and girls are usually interested in LT. Just make sure you agree on price before hand (anything from 1000-2000). Experience could be a hit or miss so try to spend some time with her in the club and get some chemistry going. I am not sure if they allow shorts and flip flops so go with jeans and t-shirt instead. Good luck.
flight and arrival.
i flew qatar airways from kuwait city to bangkok via doha. i had a smooth ride and the accommodations were nice for economy. they did have alcohol but the choices were limited to wine and heineken since they are a muslim airline. on arrival to bangkok at approximately 12:00 p. m, i went downstairs level 1 to look for the bell travel service (approximately b200). the website said that it was at gate 8, but i later learned it was right next door to gate 7 (about 50 feet away). it shared a booth with the local bus that was leaving an hour earlier and only charged b125. i left on this bus which made stops at north pattaya, central pattaya, south pattaya and jomtien. not knowing where to get off, i got off at the final stop jomtien (had i taken the bell bus, i would have been taken to my hotel by shuttle rather than looking for it on my own.) at each bus stop, there are baht bus-trucks ready to take you wherever you want, but they act as taxis and are going to want more than b10 to take you to your hotel. i walked for a few minutes up the street and then took a baht bus to soi diana. i asked around for soi bukahow and figured that i would eventually find the target regency hotel (b450 with some nice rooms) , figuring 'how big can this soi be? after learning my lesson the hard way, i found soi lk metro and saw 3som bar and guesthouse (b500 / nt). i gave up right there looking and stayed here for my trip.
3som bar.
located across mash agogo, i felt that i had a pretty nice place. the manager, lek, was pretty hot and had long, black hair which i loved. the girls were cool and there was not much hustling for drinks. the first night they had to babysit me plenty, though maybe someday i will explain the funny parts of this story further. they had a safe in room, fridge and microwave, plates and utensils, wifi and tv with the usual channels. if your bar tab exceeds b1000, you get a 10% discount if you stay there.
my only problem was my last night there, where someone pulled a spiderman from the outside rear of the building and broke into my room. they stole $400 that i had left and a cell phone. my stuff was packed because i was leaving in a few hours and i had everything pulled out of my safe already. my door was chained from the inside and lek had to break the door open to see what happened. lesson learned: wait till the last minute to pull everything out, even if you are leaving in a couple of hours. second lesson learned: they also took a t-shirt of mine but left theirs in its place (a buddhist belief that they should not leave you without something that is needed) , and though you may have great evidence that would help solve a crime in america, the police aren't coming, you won't even get thru to them on the phone, and most people do not even know how to call the police. i needed a police report for issues unrelated to the trip report, so i went to the station and got one done. the american manager consoled me a bit and i have faith that steps will be taken to minimize this in the future.
little things worth mentioning.
baht bus was easy enough at a cost of only b10. when you stay at a place that has a bar, sometimes it's worth buying a few beers and keeping them in the fridge so that you can walk downstairs holding a cold one at a good price, especially if you overspend and need to find things to come back within budget. few currency exchange places are open at night, and those that are have a worse rate than do the day places, so prepare early. tuk. com has electronics for pretty reasonable prices. i bought a camera there for under $100 that i love, so if you lose or need to upgrade something, it's worth taking a look there.
freelancer bars.
i like insomnia; it was a pretty nice place. the laser light show is pretty cool. it is extremely packed, so expect this. lucifer was a mainstay on my first trip, but i just didn't feel it this trip. you just can't stay the same old way and expect people to be excited when others are raising the bar. mixx discotec at the end of walking street really seemed like a waste of time, mostly russians and their prices were way higher than i would pay for a night out. tony's also is an arab / russian bar now, and the changes they made really changed another previously-favorite bar of mine. insomnia wins for me in the freelancer bars for environment though i did not pull anyone from them.
beer bars.
i really have the most fun at beer bars. my favorite was simon beer bar across from tony's, and in particular rolling stone 3 (it seems that most bars in both of the simon beer bars were named rolling stone for some reason!). the girls there seemed to have the most fun, and my favorite was rose, a tall, very thin, beautiful tanned, outgoing girl who i was more than happy to barfine. i also learned the importance of treating girls well, as a guy tried to barfine her while i was there, and she told him that she doesn't leave the bar. a couple hours later, she left with me. there also were some guys who came to the bar to breakdance, and though many people loved it, i felt uncomfortable as it takes my mind off of the girl and off of my surroundings: it would be the perfect time for someone to pick the pocket. also, the bar charges b5 for the bathroom, and sometimes it's a pain trying to find the coins when all you have are baht bills.
gogos.
daytime – champagne was lauded by many, but i really didn't like it at all. the girls really looked like the b team and it seemed better to just go drink at a beer bar. went to tahatian queen agogo on beach road where the girls were a little better, but i pictured it being bigger and darker, and in all actuality it was small and pretty well lit.
nighttime –
on lk metro, my favorite was submarine agogo. beer was reasonable and they gave you a free shot of sambuca or tequila walking in the door. it was cool to see walk over water to go into the place. champagne and office were ok at night, nothing to write home about, there was a waitress at office that was probably the best looking, most active girl there amongst the office group, and if i had to do over again i would have barfined her.
on walking street, my fav was silver star agogo. yes, it is more expensive when you sit at the jacuzzi, but if you have the right girls there than it is worth it. on soi 15 (?) there were two gogos that were just crazy, but in a good way, where the entertainment was everything that you want, and the sex shows made you pop wood.
i went into cavern, airport, and a few other bars that people rave about. i just didn't see anything there that was special as compared to the other gogos. the girls weren't that spectacular and the mood wasn't that special. i guess ymmv.
i did go to kittens agogo just to be able to say that i went. it's weird when you go in for the first time. i remember thinking to myself 'i hope that i choose the right side. ' i got closer to the doorway (there are two) , you see that one side says 'ladies' and the other said 'ladies with a difference. ' i immediately walked into the ladies side! the ladies were cute, the katoeys were hot (damn, why can't they be full women!). the atmosphere is very party like, and girls do not approach you unless you signal to them that you want them to approach you.
secrets.
i did stop by one day to check it out. it seems busy and the girls are outgoing. the daytime lineup wasn't the greatest and the drinks were a bit pricey, but i can see why guys like it. it's a frat house, similar to medellin mansion in colombia or sportsman's lodge in costa rica.
soi 6.
it deserves its own category as there is nothing else that compares. busy day and night, the girls are outside of the bars soliciting customers but often times once you walk in, its only you and the girl that brought you in there, so choose wisely. my favorite bar was lisa bar near beach road. the girls there change costumes daily. bee was my favorite girl on soi 6 and was from lisa bar. i still picture her in her flight attendant outfit (who needs airport agogo!) looking amazing. there are some ladyboys on soi 6, be careful. one of my buddies that i met there was walking home and had his shorts pulled down to his ankles. when he pulled them up, the ladyboys were gone with his wallet.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] / devils den / club blu.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] was pretty good. i expected a dark, dreary place but it was beautiful, fully refurbished in red everything, brightly lit. i had a good session with an older gal (33) that was new to the game, where i plowed her with drinks before going upstairs for my reward! devils den, if you know the reputation, totally lives up to its billing, as i was done the first half hour and the girls were having none of it. i really tried for the next hour, and they were awesome, but whew what a workout! bring you're a-game. club blu looks beautiful from the outside and had some of the most beautiful women in pattaya in my opinion. however, when you look at all their badges, the big word 'coyote' really kills a mood!
going home.
i got a taxi to the airport at 0300 a. m. for b1000. smooth ride at that time, and easy trip back to kuwait (and subsequently 'the shit'. why can't i be delayed returning instead of at the start of the vacation! lol)
the wingmen.
i met some great joes. laamok (pattaya addicts board owner) and his dad were great people. brian (sn?) was my wingman almost the entire trip. 2 pattaya addicts members, doodie and a guy from hawaii, whose name escapes me right now, were also good wingmen from the time we were together. one stayed at china garden, and for b500 he had an amazing place for which i hope to book someday on my return.
lessons learned not previously mentioned:
1. ensure that your cash is the new series cash (they don't take the old stuff, and had i had the $400 in new series bills rather than the old, it wouldn't have been around to get stolen.)
2. ladies love chocolate – i took 3 bags of milky way miniatures and passed them around, and they all made the extra effort to repay my extra effort.
3. baby wipes – sometimes you get sick, and when you hit the toilet a little too often, you realize how happy you are to have some with you!
4. microsoft office – i had to write something in microsoft word. don't expect any computers to have this at the internet café's, as they are mostly for email, chat, and gaming. if they do have it, realize that they probably won't have spell check.
i have some edits to make to fill in some holes for things that i forgot, and if i can get my internet speed to cooperate then pics will be forthcoming (pg, but hey, its something).
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1192961]Years ago I sat on Beach road watching and checking out the scene and saw a Indian in long dress strike up a conversation she walked away after a few second towards one of her girlfriends and I bascially overheard her in Thai say this stinky basterd want me for 250 baht, I might as well drive a taxi if I go for that.[/QUOTE]That is a hell of a statement by her seeing that my taxi gf owns her car, works from 9pm - 3am, and makes 50K-60K baht / month. Of course she doesn't use her meter and makes her own prices. 1,500 from Nana to Pattaya. 400 from Nana to BKK airport. Some guys must be high to pay her rip-off prices when the going real rate is considerably less than her rates.
Picked up this 18-year old tall girl from Champagne go-go who I'd give an 8 (checked age on her I. The. When she left it with reception) , spoke just passable English but had good attitude. She insisted we showered together, after that in bed. After 10 minutes of pounding, I suddenly lost the erection (I'm sure it was due to drinking far too much that night). She however gave me a nice massage in the groin area and I was up and running again, another 5-10 minutes and I came. It was almost 4 and we slept naked. I woke up at 9, started foreplay, she didn't resist one bit, almost an hour of foreplay and I was about to unload without even penetrating (probably still something to do with the drinks). Lasted only 5 minutes this time. At 10:30, asked her if she wanted to go down for breakfast as it was closing at 11, she preferred to sleep. One thing about this girl, almost 12 hrs with her and she ate or drank nothing, I asked her why and she said she was told to keep her weight down. It seems she was quite chubby earlier and lost weight way too fast (evident by few stretch marks I noticed on her body). After breakfast, was back in bed naked with her, she had no problem with another pop, but I had enough. She wanted to stay but I had to pack her off at 1 as I have my eyes on a sure 9 in another go-go (possibly 9. 5, only will know when the make-up is off). I took her no. & may call her few days later due to her excellent attitude. This girl was tall, as tall as me with smallish breasts, I prefer the more petite, rounded types with bigger natural breasts (that is something that's more difficult to find in Thailand, sexy women with big natural breasts, the average Indonesian woman is definitely more bustier). Will keep posting.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1193307]That is a hell of a statement by her seeing that my taxi gf owns her car, works from 9pm - 3am, and makes 50K-60K baht / month. Of course she doesn't use her meter and makes her own prices. 1,500 from Nana to Pattaya. 400 from Nana to BKK airport. Some guys must be high to pay her rip-off prices when the going real rate is considerably less than her rates.[/QUOTE]I don't think she meant Taxi, as you refer but more the motorbike or Tuk Tuk, her reaction was more sarcastic than anything?
LBM
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush; 1192952]Was speaking to a fellow mongerer during breakfast and he claimed it was due to my Indian origin. I lived in India for 18 years before I left to study in Europe. Been working with multi-national company since 12 years and spend 9 out of 12 months working abroad in various places, some quite remote. I spend most of the remaining 3 months travelling and mongering, mainly in Indonesia and the Caribbean / S. America. I totally understand the Indian mindset where one is taught very early to save, however I do believe my mongering expenses on any given night easily exceed more than 70 percent of fellow mongerers of all nationalities. So it's a shame that due to some of my Indian brothers (who I admit do behave cheap and badly) , coloured guys like myself have to suffer. I have particularly noticed this kind of racial profiling in Thailand (probably because unlike Indonesia or Caribbean, I do not speak the local language, I speak decent Bahasa and Spanish). When I was in Pattaya 4 years ago, I had a similar problem in one of the go-go's (cannot remember name) , a bribe of 100 baht worked, similar problem in Phuket 2 years ago. This kind of problem has never been encountered in the Caribbean / S. America in so many visits. The clubs should be interested in who spends on drinks and pays bar fines, not on race and colour and even dressing.
I'm not sure maybe my dressing had something to do with it (T-shirt, shorts & slippers) , perhaps they have a dress code. Regarding appearance I'm 1. 72m and 75 kg in my early thirties, but I doubt that had anything to do with it. Senior members, please advise if I'm missing anything apart from the obvious stated in this message.[/QUOTE]Seems like it's the "Indian thing". You can look at a lot of previous posts on this subject. Some Indian guys have made it bad for the rest. Added to Thai racist / nationality issues. And there you have it. I have seen people of accepted groups looking like they just feel out of an asshole in some venues. But they are the "in crowd". I don't know what else to say. But as you know, baht talks. Bullshit walks. I am sure you can find many venues where you will be welcome.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192952]So it's a shame that due to some of my Indian brothers (who I admit do behave cheap and badly) ,[/QUOTE]You are paying the price for your Indian brothers. You can't tell people about your education and working for a multinational company when you look the same as a guy who paid 99 baht for his drink and didn't even leave the 1 baht change for a tip. Indian tourists do not seem very popular in Pattaya and I will always remember a deck chair owner on the beach telling me that Indians were the main target for jet ski scams.
BTW. Sounds like you have a great job with 3 months holiday a year. Who is this with?
[QUOTE=Leggy11;1193739](damn, why can't they be full women!) Agreed.[/QUOTE]Not much if a subject to be debated here, but if they'd be what you wish, they loose their appeal, trust me, as they carry a degree of mistery and unclear border: where does the woman start?
[QUOTE=Leggy11; 1193743]You are paying the price for your Indian brothers. You can't tell people about your education and working for a multinational company when you look the same as a guy who paid 99 baht for his drink and didn't even leave the 1 baht change for a tip. Indian tourists do not seem very popular in Pattaya and I will always remember a deck chair owner on the beach telling me that Indians were the main target for jet ski scams.
BTW. Sounds like you have a great job with 3 months holiday a year. Who is this with?[/QUOTE]I don't think I will be visiting Pattaya next anytime soon. Last night I had a similar problem entering Happy go-go on WS. The guys outside took a close look, I knew what was coming, so offered to pay for 2 drinks upfront. The guys outside actually apologised to me, saying that had it been any other day (other than Saturday) , they would have let me in, but the owner was inside and they could get into trouble if they let me in. I created a small scene there telling them that this kind of behaviour was ridiculous and they were all behaving strange. Then he asked me to wait while he would go in and ask the owner. I didn't have the patience to wait and walked away. He still asked me to come the next day, he would let me in. BTW I was again in T-shirt & shorts, as I refuse to wear something else, if a white guy can get in looking more shabby than myself and get in. World economic power is shifting, BRIC countries are and will be the engine of growth in the next 10-20 years, we are already seeing sharp decline in the economies of the west. If these establishments do not realize this, I'm afraid they have a lot of business to lose. I have been to numerous clubs in Jakarta, Bali, Batam, KL and Singapore and nobody even takes a second look, on the contrary you are served very well.
Anyway next entered Dollhouse go-go (already had visited 1 go-go in soi LK where the stunner refused LT, so moved on). This was probably the worst go-go I had been to. Service and quality of girls were well below average. Walked out after 1 drink. Next stop Champion go-go. Saw 2-3 fine ladies here, but the hot 18-year old from day 1 immediately recognised me and sat beside me. After another drink, barfined her, stopped at McD for take-away, then in my room. Overall good service. 1 pop at night. 1 in the morning, she was gone by noon. This girl spoke a lot, I now know everything about her family, job and future plans.
I rode by soi 7 and saw 2-3 go-go's and numerous bars with some good opportunity, may try these tonight. IMHO, WS clubs are over-rated, you can get equal or better quality in go-go's elsewhere, still to try North Pattaya. And only the WS clubs (some of them) seem to have problems with colour, never had a problem in other areas. Could be because I always notice lots of Indians & Arabs in the WS and beach road areas, I don't see many in other areas.
BTW, I work with an oil major in the oil & gas exploration industry. Spend most time away from home, most cases no weekends off, so the 3-4 month leave in the year.
[QUOTE=Bobbysays;1193174]Interesting reports dude. If you need a girl late at night then try clubs on walking street. Lucifers, Insomnia (go after 1 am) , Marine disco (something similar) , minx (less FL) would be worth checking and girls are usually interested in LT. Just make sure you agree on price before hand (anything from 1000-2000). Experience could be a hit or miss so try to spend some time with her in the club and get some chemistry going. I am not sure if they allow shorts and flip flops so go with jeans and t-shirt instead. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I know what you are saying, but I like to be all tucked in by 1, at which time most discos get going (just a personal thing). I also find the discotheques too dark and noisy for my liking. How many times have we fancied a girl in a nightclub and then regretted after stepping out in normal light. You can't ask her to come out to have a look, you've then ruined the chemistry. I used to have a wingman in Batam who used to enter a club with a torch, and everytime he saw something he fancied, he would point the torch on her face, ninety percent of the time she would feel insulted and walk away. There could also be communication issues in the loud noise, especially with a language barrier. Just my personal opinion, I'm sure some guys are picking up hot ladies from nightclubs all the time, maybe they have a feel for this, any useful tips / advise most welcome.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush; 1193750]I don't think I will be visiting Pattaya next anytime soon. Last night I had a similar problem entering Happy go-go on WS. The guys outside took a close look, I knew what was coming, so offered to pay for 2 drinks upfront. The guys outside actually apologised to me, saying that had it been any other day (other than Saturday) , they would have let me in, but the owner was inside and they could get into trouble if they let me in. I created a small scene there telling them that this kind of behaviour was ridiculous and they were all behaving strange. Then he asked me to wait while he would go in and ask the owner. I didn't have the patience to wait and walked away. He still asked me to come the next day, he would let me in. BTW I was again in T-shirt & shorts, as I refuse to wear something else, if a white guy can get in looking more shabby than myself and get in. World economic power is shifting, BRIC countries are and will be the engine of growth in the next 10-20 years, we are already seeing sharp decline in the economies of the west. If these establishments do not realize this, I'm afraid they have a lot of business to lose. I have been to numerous clubs in Jakarta, Bali, Batam, KL and Singapore and nobody even takes a second look, on the contrary you are served very well.
Anyway next entered Dollhouse go-go (already had visited 1 go-go in soi LK where the stunner refused LT, so moved on). This was probably the worst go-go I had been to. Service and quality of girls were well below average. Walked out after 1 drink. Next stop Champion go-go. Saw 2-3 fine ladies here, but the hot 18-year old from day 1 immediately recognised me and sat beside me. After another drink, barfined her, stopped at McD for take-away, then in my room. Overall good service. 1 pop at night. 1 in the morning, she was gone by noon. This girl spoke a lot, I now know everything about her family, job and future plans.
I rode by soi 7 and saw 2-3 go-go's and numerous bars with some good opportunity, may try these tonight. IMHO, WS clubs are over-rated, you can get equal or better quality in go-go's elsewhere, still to try North Pattaya. And only the WS clubs (some of them) seem to have problems with colour, never had a problem in other areas. Could be because I always notice lots of Indians & Arabs in the WS and beach road areas, I don't see many in other areas.
BTW, I work with an oil major in the oil & gas exploration industry. Spend most time away from home, most cases no weekends off, so the 3-4 month leave in the year.[/QUOTE]Just a suggestion. Stay away from WS. I never go there at all anymore. Go to the bars off Soi 8/10, etc, and the bars off Second Road. You will have a better time.
This is a continuation of my report from Thailand. The first part is in the Bangkok forum, and now comes the report about my time in Pattaya.
On day four of this time in Thailand, I am heading towards Pattaya, for the rest of my holidays and some beach life. There, I stayed for the first time at the Sabai Resort ([url]http://www.sabairesortpattaya.com[/url]). In previous years, I always stayed at the Sabai Lodge respectively the Sabai Wing, but the Resort is a bit newer, even though inside the style is quite similar. Perhaps the rooms are slightly bigger, but I am not even sure. However, the whole area is nicer and a bit newer. If you can afford, it's worthwhile to go for the Ruen Thai Paradise part. This is a more 'private' part, with all ground floor rooms and direct access to a swimming pool that is exclusively for the guests of this part of the hotel – and of course, for the guests of the guests. During the low season, they have a special promotion, and the rooms there were available for 1'850 Baht / night, instead of the 3'050 Baht during Peak season or 2'750 Baht during the High season. The whole hotel is girl-friendly, no joiner fee, and not hassle at all. They also refrain from the humiliating procedure of collecting the I'd, which is preferable for me. Each guest of the Ruen Thai Paradise part may officially bring two 'guests'. I will definitely chose the Sabai Resort again, and most likely the Ruen Thai Paradise area, where you also have free of charge WLAN Internet access. The access was not always very stable, but when I told them, the reset the router, and then it worked again.
In my opinion, the only disadvantage of the Sabai Resort is the longer distance to the beach – if you like to go there – and that (too) many baht taxis in Second Road are heading towards Naklua, rather than turning into Beach Road. This means that it is best to walk down from Second Road through Soi 3 or Soi 2 towards Beach Road and catch the baht taxi there.
In the evenings, I went to the Walking Street. I usually enjoy my dinner alone. It is cheaper and less trouble. I only eat with a girl, if we have a special relationship. Actually, once some years ago, I ignored this rule and brought a nice girl from Happy A Gogo to the Nang Nual Restaurant. We had a nice seafood dinner. But all of a sudden, she said 'hurry up, you are wasting my time, I want to go back to the bar after our boom boom'. You guess what I told her? She can go immediately and does not need to waste any time further.
Well today, after dinner, I strolled through several bars. Many of them were quite empty – almost no guests and only very few girls. However, I found then a cutie at the Happy A Gogo. She must be around 21 years young and has fabulous tits. I knew immediately that I wanted her. After she finished her dancing, she came to me, and after a drink, it was clear that she is going to accompany me. We took the baht taxi to my hotel. There, she seemed a bit tired, but the shower woke her up. She was not too much into it, though. She only wanted to give a CBJ, and then, I rather don't want it. She did not like too much when I licked her tits and nipples. And also, when I gave her a DATY, she felt rather ticklish than exited. This is a typical behavior of a (too) young girl. Well, so I made my deed, and I did it in mish and doggy. I finished in doggy, which was quite nice. However, when pulling out, there was a rather bad smell. I guess it is usually the result of a yeast problem in the pussy.
Anyhow, she only wanted to stay for ST. She complained that my small brother was too big. It was ok for me. But then, she took a short shower after the deed and was already dressed up when she came out. But I still wanted a few pictures of her beautiful tits. So, I asked her to undress again. Which she did to my surprise. I took a number of nice photos, before she left. Total damage was 2100 Baht for ST, including some tip for the photos.
The following day, I first had my dinner again at the Nang Nual Restaurant. Their steaks are a good deal. Anyhow, compared to other places, I consider you get better value there than in some other places. Then, I did some bar hopping again. To my disappointment, one of my favorites, Club Boesché seems to be closed. I checked also on other days, but it was still closed. I am not sure whether or not it is due to the low season and whether it will ever open again. A few other impressions: Living Dolls was just average. Peppermint had little action, but a few cuties. Shark Club on top of Soi Diamond has a few cuties, but some of them are very young. I had one of 19 years only, and her performance was pretty poor, so I kept it ST. More and more bars have now the 'bathtub show' with girls enjoying themselves under the shower or in a bathtub or similar. Topless is the standard in both, Bangkok NEP and Pattaya. In some places (more often in Pattaya) you find full nude. And one of the 'wildest' bars is definitely Windmills, a bit behind in Soi Diamond. They also have the girl-on-girl show, and if you are lucky, you get involved. I was lucky. So, I could give the two girls on stage an intensive DATY – with all the spectators around. Then, one of them grabbed the banana. I put it into my mouth and did her with the banana. Pretty amazing feeling for me (and perhaps for her). After that, I took banana into my hand and did her doggy with the banana. I had the impression that she even enjoyed! Not too bad for a small tip of 100 Baht, which she gladly accepted.
Since my last visit, perhaps 2 ½ years ago, there are also a number of new bars, like the Baccarat, the Fahrenheit, Iron, the Alcatraz, etc. Not all are really my style. I prefer the older style, where the girls dance on a small stage and you are close, very close to them. Many of the new bars are more anonymous, and there is less 'contact' with the girls, which means – in my opinion &8722; less fun. Nevertheless, one of the newer ones is still one of my favorites, the Airport Club in Walking Street. They have some 'bathtub' girls, and some of them are quite pretty. Similar applies to the Iron Club.
One of the new clubs, however, I started to like is the Fahrenheit. Actually, on my last day, I picked a cutie there, and I regret that I did not find her earlier. I trust, we would have spent a few days together. So I look forward to doing this when I am back in town. In Fahrenheit, I also had seen a few days before a totally stunning girl. She has an absolutely perfect body, huge and perfectly shaped tits and a beautiful face. So, I was about to call her to sit with me, but – bad luck – another monger, actually a pretty old fellow was a bit faster. He was standing at the bar, and when she came, she stayed with him. I tried to find her again on the following day, but she was not there anymore. I am afraid that the old fellow did what I also would have done in such situation: he most likely kept her for the rest of his stay. Since this all happened on my second last and last day, I had no further opportunity to look for her. So, I can only look forward to my next visit.
There are also bad experiences, however. For instance, Rhino Club, which obviously tried to cheat me. When I arrived, two quite nice girls joined me. But without even asking, they got each a drink, which ended up – of course – on my bill. I was a little bit drunk, and probably they thought I am an easy target. I did not complain, this time, since the girls were really quite nice. However, then a third girl arrived, and again without my confirmation, a drink arrives for her. I refuse and tell the waiter that I did not order this. He takes the drink back, but grabs my bill – obviously to put the drink nevertheless onto my bill. Well, even when I am a bit drunk, when cheated, I get highly alert. So, I took the bill out of the waiter's hands, so he could not add anything further. Of course, I decided to leave such place, the earlier the better. However, when I checked my bill, I still found Lady Drinks on it, besides my beer. That means, they had already cheated me before the 3rd drink arrived. It seems that they actually wanted to charge me with 4 Lady Drinks, of which I had accepted in best case the first two. So, I told the waiter that I am going to pay only 2 Lady Drinks and that I had not ordered the rest. Well, finally he had to accept. Nevertheless, I recommend to avoid Rhino, or if you still want to go there – at least check your bill carefully. And if any Lady Drinks arrive that you have not ordered or not accepted, then you shall refuse them immediately and tell the waiter that you did not order them.
In general, Pattaya is still very much alive, but in most of the bars, there are fewer people than during the high (er) seasons. Therefore, the ratio between girls and punters is pretty favorable. On the other hand, I tried once to go to Naklua, which is a bit north of the main areas. However, I returned immediately to the main action area in Walking Street, since there was almost no action in Naklua at all.
Besides the Nang Nual restaurant further down Walking Street, I also tried Sea Zone at the beginning of the Walking Street. The food was ok, the service average, but the prices rather high. In my impression they are higher than at the Nang Nual. On some other days, I tried the 'J' Noy Seafood Restaurant, which claims to celebrate the 55th anniversary. The food was good, but I did not have the impression of particularly favorable 'anniversary' prices. On another day, I tried the Food Fair Seafood restaurant. The service was average and the food taste as well. So, I believe I will stick to the Nang Nual in future.
A few words about girl's prices. Most of them charge 2'000 for ST and 3'000 for LT. This is mostly standard in all the gogo bars. A few exceptions charge only 1'500 for ST and 2'500 for LT (for instance some girls in the Shark Club above Soi Diamond). These prices are more or less equal in Bangkok and Pattaya. In addition comes – at least for the gogo bars – the barfine of currently 600 in virtually all places. I normally don't negotiate a lot for the girl's prices. If I like her, I take her and don't want to spoil the good mood with negotiations. If I don't like her, why should I take her for a cheap price? There are plenty others.
A word about Secrets. This is a hotel and bar, near the Walking Street, in Soi 14. Normally, there are also some touts in the Walking Street, promoting the bar. It is a nice place to relax, possibly play some games with the ladies and drink an inexpensive draft beer, listening to the background music. They also have a few dancers, but non-nude. The dancers are nice young girls. The other ladies are also nice, and actually I had some of the best experiences with some of them. However, they all have had a child or children and, hence, their bodies are not so perfect anymore. However, they tend to be much more decent usually speak some acceptable English. I experienced that some of them are the hottest girls in bed that I ever met in Pattaya. Really wild.
The FLB Bar is yet another bar, where you may relax and play some games, listening to background music and regularly also live music. Again, the girls might not be the prettiest or the youngest in town, but they tend to be rather decent. Not all speak English very well, however. Nevertheless, I had some great fun there as well, and I am glad that there are such places as well.
Talking about all the wild nights, I should not forget that this takes a toll. I normally am a bit exhausted, after 4 or 5 nights. Then, I am glad that there is something like Cialis. For those who are also interested: it's very easy to obtain in Pattaya, without any prescription. However, I normally buy the India-made replacement 'Apcalis'. So far, I had exactly the same effect, for far less money spent. One box (4 pills) sells for 500 baht (which is still a bit expensive). If you buy larger quantities, they need to order (takes 15 to 30 minutes until arrival) , but then you get it down to 300 baht per box. Perhaps, you might even negotiate further down. And where do you get it? There is a small pharmacy ('Bee Pharmacy') , just near the corner of the Beach Road, where the Walking Street begins. It is only about 20m from the beginning of the Walking Street, just adjacent to the Bamboo Entertainment, on the side closer to Walking Street.
Yes, and one other thing I should not forget to mention. Due to the season in July, almost every evening or night there was some rainfall. Usually, the rain was very strong but did not last for too long.
Here are the numbers of some girls with good and bad experiences – perhaps this helps someone:
Good: #30 Carousel.
Bad: #21 from Airport; #4 Shark Club.
Now, I am back home and look forward to my next visit to the exciting Pattaya. I trust this is in the not too distant future.
Wonderer.
And have fun!
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1193778]A word about Secrets. -- I experienced that some of them are the hottest girls in bed that I ever met in Pattaya. Really wild.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Good report. You covered a lot of ground.
Any specific recommendations for the "hottest girls in bed" from Secrets? Just curious. ;)
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1193750]BTW I was again in T-shirt & shorts, as I refuse to wear something else, if a white guy can get in looking more shabby than myself and get in. World economic power is shifting, BRIC countries are and will be the engine of growth in the next 10-20 years, we are already seeing sharp decline in the economies of the west. If these establishments do not realize this, I'm afraid they have a lot of business to lose. I have been to numerous clubs in Jakarta, Bali, Batam, KL and Singapore and nobody even takes a second look, on the contrary you are served very well.[/QUOTE]You are more than right in saying so, but it is a reality. Taht we might not like or second. That there are countries or cultures, and thai is one. That canno see further than few days of weeks.
Go imagine investing time, energies in future markets.
It is significant that in bad market times they raise the prices as with less customers they still want to earn the same amount of money on daily basis.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1193750]I have been to numerous clubs in Jakarta, Bali, Batam, KL and Singapore and nobody even takes a second look, on the contrary you are served very well.[/QUOTE]This confirms my above comment. Some are wise. Some are not.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush; 1193750]BTW, I work with an oil major in the oil & gas exploration industry. Spend most time away from home, most cases no weekends off, so the 3-4 month leave in
The year.[/QUOTE]Thought it was your case.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1193750]And only the WS clubs (some of them) seem to have problems with colour, never had a problem in other areas. Could be because I always notice lots of Indians & Arabs in the WS and beach road areas, I don't see many in other areas.[/QUOTE]Try finding a wingman who is not Indian and see what happens.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1193756]I know what you are saying, but I like to be all tucked in by 1, at which time most discos get going (just a personal thing). I also find the discotheques too dark and noisy for my liking. How many times have we fancied a girl in a nightclub and then regretted after stepping out in normal light. You can't ask her to come out to have a look, you've then ruined the chemistry. There could also be communication issues in the loud noise, especially with a language barrier. Just my personal opinion, I'm sure some guys are picking up hot ladies from nightclubs all the time, maybe they have a feel for this, any useful tips / advise most welcome.[/QUOTE]Bullshit you can't tell her to go outside so you can see better. Just don't do it in a squareish way. Be cool. This is where game comes in. Try saying something like lets step outside so I can get a better look at that ass. Actually, you really don't need to talk at all. Just go up to her and point to the outside and do a "come on" motion. When you get outside you can see better because there is more light and hear better because there is less noise. You can always send her back in if she doesn't look the look and talk the talk that you are searching for.
Nice couple of trip reports W, thanks.
[QUOTE=Wonderer; 1193778]I stayed for the first time at the Sabai Resort. In previous years, I always stayed at the Sabai Lodge respectively the Sabai Wing, but the Resort is a bit newer, even though inside the style is quite similar. It's worthwhile to go for the Ruen Thai Paradise part. This is a more 'private' part, with all ground floor rooms and direct access to a swimming pool that is exclusively for the guests of this part of the hotel – and of course, for the guests of the guests. The only disadvantage of the Sabai Resort is the longer distance to the beach – if you like to go there – and that (too) many baht taxis in Second Road are heading towards Naklua, rather than turning into Beach Road. This means that it is best to walk down from Second Road through Soi 3 or Soi 2 towards Beach Road and catch the baht taxi there.[/QUOTE]Sabai Resort looks nice. I particularly like its pool area, but the hotel is too far from walking street for me. I will usually walk up Beach Road that way every morning to get some exercise. At night I want to be much closer to the action so I can walk back to my hotel with my girl of the evening. Still it is a hotel worth considering.
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1193778]We had a nice seafood dinner Nang Nual Restaurant. I believe I will stick to the Nang Nual in future[/QUOTE]Nang Nual is probably the best of the big seaside tourist restaurants on Walking Street. I can't say the food is great, but not bad. I give it 3. 5* out of 5. This is one of my issues with Pattaya. The lack of really good Thai restaurants, unlike BKK, where the food is out of this world and the number of great restaurants is very large. The best Thai food I had in Pattaya was at a little soi cart place. A girl I barfined out of What's Up A Go Go took me to a place between her Go Go and Walking Street. The little soi was lined with temporary food carts, card tables, and portable chairs. I let her order and the meal was fantastic. I think the tab came to 450bt or something like that for a plate fried rice with chicken, Thai raw shrimp marinated in lime juice, and two beers. I never would have tried this place if not for her. I will definitely go back there when I visit in February.
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1192809][b]VITAMINS[/b]
The first pharmacy I tried had original stuff at prices about 100 baht cheaper than what I was quoted along Sukhumvit in Bangkok: a bit lazy of me, but I didn't look further.
Cialis (four 20g tablets) : 2. 200.
Viagra (four 100g tablets) : 2. 200.
Levitra (four 20g tablets) : 2. 000[/QUOTE]Great report. But could you just re-check your prices here? Viagra is a proprietary medicine and probably costs 2200Bht for 4 x 100mg pills. Cilais and levitra are generic and should be vastly cheaper (about 100Bht per pill).
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1193750]BTW I was again in T-shirt & shorts, as I refuse to wear something else, if a white guy can get in looking more shabby than myself and get in.[/QUOTE]Good report. I understand your point (and agree). But I also like to change it up occasionally. Especially when patronizing the nicer venues. For example. You can't miss with the classic prep / casual look. It's a look I see many wall streeters and / or the trust fund heirs, rock on weekends out on Long Island in the Hampton's. Women kill themselves going after these guys. No joke. This approach worked well for me in Thailand (Phuket, Pattaya). Great response from the ladies. Consider the following options:
Shirt: Authentic Polo shirt (collar up). By Ralph Lauren, Burberry, Lacoste, or Brooks Brothers.
Pants:
1. Khakis (shorts or slacks) : By Ralph Lauren, Burberry, Lacoste, or Brooks Brothers. J Crew and L. L. Bean.
2. Linens (shorts or slacks) : By Ralph Lauren, Burberry, Lacoste, or Brooks Brothers.
3. Seersucker (shorts or slacks) : By Ralph Lauren, Burberry, Lacoste, or Brooks Brothers.
4. Bermuda Shorts (custom tailored)
Shoes (no socks) :
1. Sperry Top-Sider's boat shoes (Bahamas) or loafers,
2. Classic K-Swiss Tennis (all white).
3. J. Crew loafers or boat shoes.
4. L. L. Bean summer moccasins.
Accessories:
1. Kangol Summer cap (optional). Bermuda, or Tropic series.
2. Sunglasses. Ray-Ban Wayfarer Sunglasses.
3. Cologne: Polo, Davidoff Cool Water, Georgio Armani. Acqua di Giò Men Eau de Toilette Spray, or Burberry.
4. Blazer: Seersucker Summer Blazer
5. Watch: TAG Heuer or Movado
[QUOTE=Wonderer; 1193778]This is a continuation of my report from Thailand. The first part is in the Bangkok forum, and now comes the report about my time in Pattaya.
On day four of this time in Thailand, I am heading towards Pattaya, for the rest of my holidays and some beach life. There, I stayed for the first time at the Sabai Resort (
[url]http://www.sabairesortpattaya.com[/url]
). In previous years, I always stayed at the Sabai Lodge respectively the Sabai Wing, but the Resort is a bit newer, even though inside the style is quite similar. Perhaps the rooms are slightly bigger, but I am not even sure. However, the whole area is nicer and a bit newer. If you can afford, it's worthwhile to go for the Ruen Thai Paradise part. This is a more 'private' part, with all ground floor rooms and direct access to a swimming pool that is exclusively for the guests of this part of the hotel – and of course, for the guests of the guests. During the low season, they have a special promotion, and the rooms there were available for 1'850 Baht / night, instead of the 3'050 Baht during Peak season or 2'750 Baht during the High season. The whole hotel is girl-friendly, no joiner fee, and not hassle at all. They also refrain from the humiliating procedure of collecting the I'd, which is preferable for me. Each guest of the Ruen Thai Paradise part may officially bring two 'guests'. I will definitely chose the Sabai Resort again, and most likely the Ruen Thai Paradise area, where you also have free of charge WLAN Internet access. The access was not always very stable, but when I told them, the reset the router, and then it worked again.
In my opinion, the only disadvantage of the Sabai Resort is the longer distance to the beach – if you like to go there – and that (too) many baht taxis in Second Road are heading towards Naklua, rather than turning into Beach Road. This means that it is best to walk down from Second Road through Soi 3 or Soi 2 towards Beach Road and catch the baht taxi there.
In the evenings, I went to the Walking Street. I usually enjoy my dinner alone. It is cheaper and less trouble. I only eat with a girl, if we have a special relationship. Actually, once some years ago, I ignored this rule and brought a nice girl from Happy A Gogo to the Nang Nual Restaurant. We had a nice seafood dinner. But all of a sudden, she said 'hurry up, you are wasting my time, I want to go back to the bar after our boom boom'. You guess what I told her? She can go immediately and does not need to waste any time further.
Well today, after dinner, I strolled through several bars. Many of them were quite empty – almost no guests and only very few girls. However, I found then a cutie at the Happy A Gogo. She must be around 21 years young and has fabulous tits. I knew immediately that I wanted her. After she finished her dancing, she came to me, and after a drink, it was clear that she is going to accompany me. We took the baht taxi to my hotel. There, she seemed a bit tired, but the shower woke her up. She was not too much into it, though. She only wanted to give a CBJ, and then, I rather don't want it. She did not like too much when I licked her tits and nipples. And also, when I gave her a DATY, she felt rather ticklish than exited. This is a typical behavior of a (too) young girl. Well, so I made my deed, and I did it in mish and doggy. I finished in doggy, which was quite nice. However, when pulling out, there was a rather bad smell. I guess it is usually the result of a yeast problem in the pussy.
Anyhow, she only wanted to stay for ST. She complained that my small brother was too big. It was ok for me. But then, she took a short shower after the deed and was already dressed up when she came out. But I still wanted a few pictures of her beautiful tits. So, I asked her to undress again. Which she did to my surprise. I took a number of nice photos, before she left. Total damage was 2100 Baht for ST, including some tip for the photos.
The following day, I first had my dinner again at the Nang Nual Restaurant. Their steaks are a good deal. Anyhow, compared to other places, I consider you get better value there than in some other places. Then, I did some bar hopping again. To my disappointment, one of my favorites, Club Boesché seems to be closed. I checked also on other days, but it was still closed. I am not sure whether or not it is due to the low season and whether it will ever open again. A few other impressions: Living Dolls was just average. Peppermint had little action, but a few cuties. Shark Club on top of Soi Diamond has a few cuties, but some of them are very young. I had one of 19 years only, and her performance was pretty poor, so I kept it ST. More and more bars have now the 'bathtub show' with girls enjoying themselves under the shower or in a bathtub or similar. Topless is the standard in both, Bangkok NEP and Pattaya. In some places (more often in Pattaya) you find full nude. And one of the 'wildest' bars is definitely Windmills, a bit behind in Soi Diamond. They also have the girl-on-girl show, and if you are lucky, you get involved. I was lucky. So, I could give the two girls on stage an intensive DATY – with all the spectators around. Then, one of them grabbed the banana. I put it into my mouth and did her with the banana. Pretty amazing feeling for me (and perhaps for her). After that, I took banana into my hand and did her doggy with the banana. I had the impression that she even enjoyed! Not too bad for a small tip of 100 Baht, which she gladly accepted.
Since my last visit, perhaps 2 ½ years ago, there are also a number of new bars, like the Baccarat, the Fahrenheit, Iron, the Alcatraz, etc. Not all are really my style. I prefer the older style, where the girls dance on a small stage and you are close, very close to them. Many of the new bars are more anonymous, and there is less 'contact' with the girls, which means – in my opinion &8722; less fun. Nevertheless, one of the newer ones is still one of my favorites, the Airport Club in Walking Street. They have some 'bathtub' girls, and some of them are quite pretty. Similar applies to the Iron Club.
One of the new clubs, however, I started to like is the Fahrenheit. Actually, on my last day, I picked a cutie there, and I regret that I did not find her earlier. I trust, we would have spent a few days together. So I look forward to doing this when I am back in town. In Fahrenheit, I also had seen a few days before a totally stunning girl. She has an absolutely perfect body, huge and perfectly shaped tits and a beautiful face. So, I was about to call her to sit with me, but – bad luck – another monger, actually a pretty old fellow was a bit faster. He was standing at the bar, and when she came, she stayed with him. I tried to find her again on the following day, but she was not there anymore. I am afraid that the old fellow did what I also would have done in such situation: he most likely kept her for the rest of his stay. Since this all happened on my second last and last day, I had no further opportunity to look for her. So, I can only look forward to my next visit.
There are also bad experiences, however. For instance, Rhino Club, which obviously tried to cheat me. When I arrived, two quite nice girls joined me. But without even asking, they got each a drink, which ended up – of course – on my bill. I was a little bit drunk, and probably they thought I am an easy target. I did not complain, this time, since the girls were really quite nice. However, then a third girl arrived, and again without my confirmation, a drink arrives for her. I refuse and tell the waiter that I did not order this. He takes the drink back, but grabs my bill – obviously to put the drink nevertheless onto my bill. Well, even when I am a bit drunk, when cheated, I get highly alert. So, I took the bill out of the waiter's hands, so he could not add anything further. Of course, I decided to leave such place, the earlier the better. However, when I checked my bill, I still found Lady Drinks on it, besides my beer. That means, they had already cheated me before the 3rd drink arrived. It seems that they actually wanted to charge me with 4 Lady Drinks, of which I had accepted in best case the first two. So, I told the waiter that I am going to pay only 2 Lady Drinks and that I had not ordered the rest. Well, finally he had to accept. Nevertheless, I recommend to avoid Rhino, or if you still want to go there – at least check your bill carefully. And if any Lady Drinks arrive that you have not ordered or not accepted, then you shall refuse them immediately and tell the waiter that you did not order them.
In general, Pattaya is still very much alive, but in most of the bars, there are fewer people than during the high (er) seasons. Therefore, the ratio between girls and punters is pretty favorable. On the other hand, I tried once to go to Naklua, which is a bit north of the main areas. However, I returned immediately to the main action area in Walking Street, since there was almost no action in Naklua at all.
Besides the Nang Nual restaurant further down Walking Street, I also tried Sea Zone at the beginning of the Walking Street. The food was ok, the service average, but the prices rather high. In my impression they are higher than at the Nang Nual. On some other days, I tried the 'J' Noy Seafood Restaurant, which claims to celebrate the 55th anniversary. The food was good, but I did not have the impression of particularly favorable 'anniversary' prices. On another day, I tried the Food Fair Seafood restaurant. The service was average and the food taste as well. So, I believe I will stick to the Nang Nual in future.
A few words about girl's prices. Most of them charge 2'000 for ST and 3'000 for LT. This is mostly standard in all the gogo bars. A few exceptions charge only 1'500 for ST and 2'500 for LT (for instance some girls in the Shark Club above Soi Diamond). These prices are more or less equal in Bangkok and Pattaya. In addition comes – at least for the gogo bars – the barfine of currently 600 in virtually all places. I normally don't negotiate a lot for the girl's prices. If I like her, I take her and don't want to spoil the good mood with negotiations. If I don't like her, why should I take her for a cheap price? There are plenty others.
A word about Secrets. This is a hotel and bar, near the Walking Street, in Soi 14. Normally, there are also some touts in the Walking Street, promoting the bar. It is a nice place to relax, possibly play some games with the ladies and drink an inexpensive draft beer, listening to the background music. They also have a few dancers, but non-nude. The dancers are nice young girls. The other ladies are also nice, and actually I had some of the best experiences with some of them. However, they all have had a child or children and, hence, their bodies are not so perfect anymore. However, they tend to be much more decent usually speak some acceptable English. I experienced that some of them are the hottest girls in bed that I ever met in Pattaya. Really wild.
The FLB Bar is yet another bar, where you may relax and play some games, listening to background music and regularly also live music. Again, the girls might not be the prettiest or the youngest in town, but they tend to be rather decent. Not all speak English very well, however. Nevertheless, I had some great fun there as well, and I am glad that there are such places as well.
Talking about all the wild nights, I should not forget that this takes a toll. I normally am a bit exhausted, after 4 or 5 nights. Then, I am glad that there is something like Cialis. For those who are also interested: it's very easy to obtain in Pattaya, without any prescription. However, I normally buy the India-made replacement 'Apcalis'. So far, I had exactly the same effect, for far less money spent. One box (4 pills) sells for 500 baht (which is still a bit expensive). If you buy larger quantities, they need to order (takes 15 to 30 minutes until arrival) , but then you get it down to 300 baht per box. Perhaps, you might even negotiate further down. And where do you get it? There is a small pharmacy ('Bee Pharmacy') , just near the corner of the Beach Road, where the Walking Street begins. It is only about 20m from the beginning of the Walking Street, just adjacent to the Bamboo Entertainment, on the side closer to Walking Street.
Yes, and one other thing I should not forget to mention. Due to the season in July, almost every evening or night there was some rainfall. Usually, the rain was very strong but did not last for too long.
Here are the numbers of some girls with good and bad experiences – perhaps this helps someone:
Good: #30 Carousel.
Bad: #21 from Airport; #4 Shark Club.
Now, I am back home and look forward to my next visit to the exciting Pattaya. I trust this is in the not too distant future.
Wonderer.
And have fun![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, will check out Fahreneit tonight. I too had a great experience at the Sabai lodge / resort on my last 2 visits 4 years ago, no real hassle with anything. The one thing they did not have back then was a gym, do they have one now? As far as the LT prices, I've taken girls on 4 out of 5 nights from go-go's, paid 3 of them 2000 and one 1500. Sometimes they quote 2500 but very easily settle for 2000. I have discussed LT prices with at least 10 girls on this visit and all have readily agreed to come for 2000 (not including the 600 barfine). And I am quite choosy, if I don't see someone who's really hot and I fancy, I don't mind coming back alone. Yes, I found ST prices are standard 1500. Just my observation to aid fellow mongerers in any way I can.
Thought I'd just go out and enjoy myself, enter as many clubs and get sloshed, and if a real hot girl comes my way, will bring her back (Had enough sex last 4 days, so wasn't purely looking to find women for a change). Started near my hotel, soi LK, Office first, then tried Oasis, both were below average on girl quality (maybe it was still early, before 9). In Oasis, the girls are friendly and come and talk to you, service is nice, but left after 1 drink. Thought I'd hit the soi 7 & 8 bars. First Club 23, this club is quite big inside, with stage for girls to dance, few pool tables and a huge lounging area. Played few games of pool, bought a drink for a girl I liked, however rule there was barfines after midnight only, so thought I'd come back to barfine her if I found nothing else. Next Silver Star 2 go-go in soi 7, very average selection, next Sexy Girls on soi 8, even worst, finally went back to WS. Entered Sweethearts go-go. I remembered this place, I had barfined a girl from here for 3 nights during my last visit (4 years ago). The one thing I liked about this place is it plays my kind of music (60's to 90's rock) , so I had few drinks here, was enjoying myself, saw few doable girls, but I by then I knew I had too much to drink and would immediately pass out on my bed, so didn't bother. One thing I like about this place, they have absolutely no problem with colour, half of their customers were Arabs and Indians, even Indian couples were sitting there (which is rare). This is a smart owner with good business sense, I believe he's Swedish (the girl I barfined last time told me this). The owner personally shook my hand when I left and thanked me for coming. Will definitely go back.
By then it was past 1 and I noticed the discotheques filling up. Entered Insomnia, had 2 more drinks there, saw some above average girls in groups, most hot ones had company. After this, the remaining part of the night was a blur, remember entering Marine disco, it was quite empty. Passed by that Russian girl place (Polo club I think) , had a drink there, they have a lounge which says Thai models or something, sat there watching some average girls poledancing (some hot girls were with other customers, some were at a room in the back, they kept coming out to the bar, so maybe they have private / special rooms inside, was in no state to investigate). There are some good things about not being white and that's in these high-end clubs (or most places for that matter) , the girls think you don't have money (unless you openly flaunt it) , they won't bother you if white folks are around. This place is total rip-off, drinks are more than twice the price (including ladies drinks) , every 10 minutes, a dancer sits on your lap and expects a 50 baht tip. I left after a drink, the girls were too interested in 2 groups of young white guys and I can only imagine how much these guys would have paid. Word of advise, do not climb those stairs up or be prepared for a big, fat bill.
Like they say, a drunk man always finds his way home, I somehow found mine, it was almost 4. This morning when I emptied my pockets, I found a photograph of myself holding a baby python on my shoulders, another with me wearing gloves in a kick-boxing ring, now I'm remembering these things vaguely, truly a very different night out.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1192145]Re your references to 2005-6, I doubt such a police presence could be justified by mere prostitution alone. In these type of situations SWs often simply move to another area or can be contacted via cell, email, etc. It is virtually impossible for the government to shut down our fun, and I doubt that that is what they want anyway, since P4P is a Thai institution {far larger amongst the Thais themselves BTW}, and its foreign element brings too much employment and income to the Kingdom.[/quote]I'm afraid the sex industry is a very small percentage of the Thai economy. And the idea that one can replace a vibrant streetwalker scene with a few phone numbers is silly. How are you going to get these numbers if all the girls are gone? When the girls are rounded up and jailed they lose their mobile phones, and anyway even if one is lucky and one's favorites keep them, how long does that keep one well supplied? People move on to other lines of work, get old, die, etc. How are we to run across new gems if the scene is shut down?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1192145]So, all in all, I am quite encouraged by future prospects in the Kingdom. What concerns me is how to best enjoy the other half year when I am not here. Maybe Cambodia with its Viet girls and "me love you LT for 5 dolla"? Or Hong Kong with its abundance of white skinned stunners?[/QUOTE]Cambodia has run off most of the Vietnamese girls, as I understand it, and what remains are mostly the poor-service less-attractive native Kmer girls, and at a much higher price. I suppose if you can afford to go to Hong Kong we're sort of comparing apples and oranges. I could never afford such expense. But alas as much as I wish I were the Chicken Little I fear you are the Pollyanna, Pink. The history of almost all countries as they 'develop' (both in terms of greater GDP per capita and in terms of democracy) they also kill off their sex industry.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1193777]Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]Was it necessary to quote his whole post?
Snipping will be appreciated.
Slim
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1194007]Thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]I can't believe you quoted his whole long ass report. Yes it was a good report which we can read on our own without you quoting the whole thing.
Save us a lot scrolling and snip.
We will all appreciate it. :)
BTW, Love your reports.
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1194083]Was it necessary to quote his whole post?
Snipping will be appreciated.
Slim[/QUOTE]No problem. Sorry guys, I am not computer savy. Can someone tell me how to do this?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Wonderer; 1193778]This is a continuation of my report from Thailand. The first part is in the Bangkok forum, and now comes the report about my time in Pattaya.
A few words about girl's prices. Most of them charge 2'000 for ST and 3'000 for LT. This is mostly standard in all the gogo bars. A few exceptions charge only 1'500 for ST and 2'500 for LT (for instance some girls in the Shark Club above Soi Diamond). These prices are more or less equal in Bangkok and Pattaya. In addition comes – at least for the gogo bars – the barfine of currently 600 in virtually all places. I normally don't negotiate a lot for the girl's prices. If I like her, I take her and don't want to spoil the good mood with negotiations. If I don't like her, why should I take her for a cheap price? There are plenty others.[/QUOTE]Great Report, Wanderer.
I just returned from a weeks trip in Pattaya. Kinda agree with range for the prices for LT. It should be somewhere between 2000 and 3000. But I guess 3000 is still on the higher side. Definitely for one of the best in the best gogo who gets bf-ed every day I guess. 2,500 is something you could always get even in these high end places. Like Baccara, Airport, Peppermint, Whats Up, etc. They start off quoting 3000 LT, but quickly coming down to 2, 500. I ended up barfining one from Baccara last week for this price and she was a stunner (in my book of course.)
From the some of the other gogos like Baby Dolls, Cavern I was even quoted 2000 LT first quote.
Over the last few visits I have been to Pattaya, I am also starting to realize that the price quotes also has to do with the comfort factor be / w the girl and you. I guess most of them quoted 3000 to me and wouldn't come down to 2500. May be they never wanted to be with me in the first place!
Cheers!
Rip
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192844]After an hour in the gym and a swim, left hotel around 9 pm Direct to walking street. Saw two extremely sexy girls entering Alcatraz go-go. Decided to check it out but was denied entry (can you believe that) , they told me it was a members only club, which was hard to believe. I even offered to pay for 2 drinks upfront, but he didn't budge, probably didn't like the way I dressed or looked, maybe some senior members of the forum can explain. Didn't want to make a big issue as there were 100+ go-go bars out there where I could spend my money and make a selection. Next was Baccara. I found this club too crowded, mainly Japs and Koreans.[/QUOTE]Bro,
Had a similar experience here. I am an Indian too and live in India; I am well travelled across the globe, speak good English, dress up well, behave well and always travel alone to Pattaya. Just returned from my 5th visit to Pattaya. So, I am pretty much used to this "door man vetting process" now.
Though I must say this has been the more fairer of the trips. Perhaps attribute it to the low season as my previous trips were in peak seasons. Dec / Jan / Apr etc. Or I am learning more in each trip. In fact I was dressed in my 3/4ths and t-shirt unlike the others where I was in Jeans and T-shirts or Jeans and Party Shirts. I was refused entry at both Farenheit and Alcatraz this time. Of course, I just walked over to the next one. However, some of the other gogos who usually refuse me / ask too many questions (Peppermint, Airport and Happy) didn't have any trouble in letting me in this time around.
I even got 2 other Indian bros whom I met at a bar accompany me to Baccara. They had never been to the GoGos, and I thought I would take them to one for the GoGo experience. The door-guy did go through a lot of questions with 3 of us entering in, with me ensuring him that we were going to buy drinks + I ve been there the previous day, he seemed satisfied enuff. It is sometimes sad, but I do believe the bars need to do their profiling to avoid the 'non-profitable' ones, and sometimes they do go wrong. So you just move on to the next one if refused.
My advice to newbie Indian bros: you are better off doing some research and avoid the ones where you have a greater chance of refusal. Sometimes you tend to carry the frustration in your head to the next gogo and this doesn't help you at all. Because then you start thinking "its them vs. Me". But if you are pretty much the easy going types or you have enuff experience of Pattaya, you could give a try at all gogos and be prepared simply move on to the next one.
And needless to stay, in the gogos you do enter, do spend some bath. 1-2 drinks for you + an LD if you fancy a girl and gets her to sit with you, tip the waitress, be polite + gel with the atmosphere.
Cheers!
Rip
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1193878]Great report. But could you just re-check your prices here? Viagra is a proprietary medicine and probably costs 2200Bht for 4 x 100mg pills. Cilais and levitra are generic and should be vastly cheaper (about 100Bht per pill).[/QUOTE]Hi Mouse1,
I am by no means an expert, but I believe all 3 medicines I quoted to be proprietary by different companies (Lilly, Pfizer, Bayer).
Also, wherever I had the chance to buy Cialis (Thailand, Indonesia, DR) , it has always cost me roughly the same amount.
Google says Pfizer's patent on Viagra will expire (in the US at least) in 2012, while the patents for Cialis and Levitra are apparently good for a few years more.
Ryo
[QUOTE=Rip Van Winkle; 1194254]Bro,
Had a similar experience here. I am an Indian too and live in India; I am well travelled across the globe, speak good English, dress up well, behave well and always travel alone to Pattaya. Just returned from my 5th visit to Pattaya. So, I am pretty much used to this "door man vetting process" now.
Though I must say this has been the more fairer of the trips. Perhaps attribute it to the low season as my previous trips were in peak seasons. Dec / Jan / Apr etc. Or I am learning more in each trip. In fact I was dressed in my 3/4ths and t-shirt unlike the others where I was in Jeans and T-shirts or Jeans and Party Shirts. I was refused entry at both Farenheit and Alcatraz this time. Of course, I just walked over to the next one. However, some of the other gogos who usually refuse me / ask too many questions (Peppermint, Airport and Happy) didn't have any trouble in letting me in this time around.
My advice to newbie Indian bros: you are better off doing some research and avoid the ones where you have a greater chance of refusal. Sometimes you tend to carry the frustration in your head to the next gogo and this doesn't help you at all. Because then you start thinking "its them vs. Me". But if you are pretty much the easy going types or you have enuff experience of Pattaya, you could give a try at all gogos and be prepared simply move on to the next one.
Cheers!
Rip[/QUOTE]I have now tried almost all go-go's during this visit. Outside walking street, no problems at all. On walking street, the only places you will be stopped are Alcatraz, Fahreneit and Happy go-go, let's us all boycott these three, not worth it really, too much opportunity around. Today I entered Peppermint, Airport. Baccara, Iron Club and few more (will post full report tomorrow) , no problems at all. I bought ladies drinks at all these clubs but did not pick up lady from there, I even bought the ping-pong balls and sat near the jacuzzi just to prove a point. Got handshakes when I left, these guys ought to be taught a lesson. I did my part for the betterment of our fellow Indian brothers, hope they don't mess it up again for us. They must have have done some real stupid shit for this situation to arise.
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After all this talk about the past and present of Pattaya and what good a place it can be or can't be, I thought I'd drop in a little irrational perspective of an experience I had with a SW on Beach Road. Now, mind you, I've traveled to Pattaya for over 9 years and I too have seen it change, but nothing so drastic that can't be explained by a little shine off the apple after the newness has worn off or the fact that the sheer excitement of a first time visit just can't be matched again.
It IS getting more expensive, but I still keep coming back. Among my numerous trips, I have sometimes left feeling it is heaven on earth and other times left feeling that the place just didn't do it for me any more, but I still keep coming back.
This one experience is just one reason why I come back. With the caveat that I TOO can hardly ever find anything worth writing home about when it comes to SW's on Beach Road, but then you find this bolt of lightening in a bottle.
The two pictures (in links) are of Noi. It was a little over two years ago in 2008. I was walking on Beach Road when I came across her. I was so taken aback as I've never seen such a stunner on the Beach. I asked her how much and she said 1200bt. I laughed at her and said "Yeah. 1200 for a street girl, get real." I sauntered on down the road, but with this constant image of her (see above links) in my mind. I thought, where am I going to get a go-go girl like THAT? After about a 10 minute walk I quickly high-tailed it back, found her and agreed to what she asked. BEST decision I ever made. She was the sweetest, kindest person with the biggest white smile and with the CLEANEST PUSSY I ever did taste. Now, I am really not one to DATY usually, but this was defininelty the best 69 I ever did have. She was so great, and she didn't rush me for a moment (and allowed me to take these pics) that I sent her on her way for 1, 500bt. She had also given me her number, so we repeated the performance the next night. I would have kept repeating, but I was leaving the next day.
Now, again, this IS NOT WHAT ANYONE SHOULD EXPECT on Beach Road, but every once in a while. PATTAYA can really amaze. Is it not the same any more? Maybe. Is there any other place like it on earth? Noone has been able to counter with another place yet!
P. S. : I'm on my way back in a couple of weeks.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1194141]No problem. Can someone tell me how to do this?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Just delete the whole of it apart the first sentence. Or just leave a key sentence.
See? I did it above with your message, I removed some words
[QUOTE=Opebo;1194025]I'm afraid the sex industry is a very small percentage of the Thai economy. And the idea that one can replace a vibrant streetwalker scene with a few phone numbers is silly. How are you going to get these numbers if all the girls are gone? When the girls are rounded up and jailed they lose their mobile phones, and anyway even if one is lucky and one's favorites keep them, how long does that keep one well supplied? People move on to other lines of work, get old, die, etc. How are we to run across new gems if the scene is shut down?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't suggest that phone numbers can replace a SW scene, but they could prove invaluable in case it was temporarily shut down. Already having dozens of them for ladies in BKK I suppose they might keep me having fun for years to come in the unlikely event their "offices" should become no walk, no stand, no sit zones. Admitedly their is a lot of turnover in this profession, though there are also times when the ladies have offered to hook me up with their "sisters" looking to get into the business with farangs. So having a little black book can be a useful tool for obtaining fresh new pussy.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1194025]Cambodia has run off most of the Vietnamese girls, as I understand it, and what remains are mostly the poor-service less-attractive native Kmer girls, and at a much higher price. I suppose if you can afford to go to Hong Kong we're sort of comparing apples and oranges. I could never afford such expense. But alas as much as I wish I were the Chicken Little I fear you are the Pollyanna, Pink. The history of almost all countries as they 'develop' (both in terms of greater GDP per capita and in terms of democracy) they also kill off their sex industry.[/QUOTE]I am surprised to hear that about Khmer girls. Some generalized opinions I saw before were saying that although they were not equal to TGs in looks, they were in another class in attitude. As far as Hong Kong goes, I would probably need to find prices there that compared to LOS, if that is even possible. At the moment though I am inclined towards SWs in my own country, though they offer up much less value than what is available on the streets of Siam.
Concerning democracy, I am not so sure about your theory or that Thailand should be considered as such except in name only. Re GDP and the promising future of hooking in the Kingdom, I will leave you with these quotes from a book I am currently reading,"Sex Slaves: the trafficking of women in Asia" by Loise Brown:
"If prostitution was simply about poverty we could have expected a contraction of the sex industry in countries with fast-developing economies. But during the 1980's and 1990's the sex industry in countries like Thailand, the Phillipines, Malaysia and Indonesia expanded as the standard of living of large sections of the population improved" {page 30}.
"In Thailand daughters are cast into the role of caretakers of the family. As in the rest of South-East Asia girls are expected to pay back their "breast milk money". In areas where prostitution of girls is well established, families may expect pretty daughters to enter prostitution. In areas of Taiwan their is a tolerant attitude to women supporting their parents through prostitution. Exactly the same holds true for prostitute-recruiting grounds in Napal, Indonesia, the Phillipines, Thailand, India and southern China" {p. 34}.
"A woman is thought to have been born as a woman because of bad karma. In order to overcome this disadvantage a woman has to make more religious merit than men. According to the Theraveda Buddhist tradition of Thailand and Burma, a son may make merit by becoming a monk for a few months. But for a daughter there is no similar option. Instead she is encouraged to make merit by caring for her parents. If she does this well, and earns money for her family, she can, conceivably, be reborn as a man in her next life. This desire to help their families has been identified as a powerful factor pushing young women into prostitution in Thailand" {p. 40}.
". In provinces of northern Thailand like Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai. The whole community accepts sex work. And this includes officials and religious organizations because, ultimately, they all benefit financially from the trade {p. 53}.
"A crucial turning point comes when the daughters of former prostitutes are sent to the city for sex work. It takes a generation. Perhaps two. And then prostitution becomes a profession and a standard career 'choice' for girls from poor communities who almost invariably have limited education and minimal skills. This process has only occurred in pockets throughout Asia but the phenomenon is spreading and a greater and greater number of girls are being reared for prostitution" {p. 53-54}.
"A {Thai} study in 1990 {found} 60% of families sending daughters to the brothels were not forced to do so because of acute poverty. Instead they were motivated by the desire to own consumer goods like televisions and videos. All the young ethnic Thai girls who 'Go South' are not dragged screaming to the brothels. Only rarely are they held in captivity" {p. 54-55}.
"Parents are not solely to blame. The perpetrators of {prostitution} in places like Thailand are not just individuals but are entire social, political {sexual} and economic systems" {p. 55}.
"Thailand has a well-deserved reputation as the world's brothel. It has an enormous domestic market in which the majority of Thai men are enthusiastic consumers" {p. 81}.
"Thai male sexual culture actively promotes male promiscuity and the purchase of sex" {p. 132}.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1194298]Just delete the whole of it apart the first sentence. Or just leave a key sentence.
See? I did it above with your message, I removed some words[/QUOTE]Got it thanks.
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The two pictures (in links) are of Noi. It was a little over two years ago in 2008. I was walking on Beach Road when I came across her.[/QUOTE]I also went with this girl a few months ago. Picked her up from Beach Road.
Payed 500 baht for short time. She was a good shag
[QUOTE=Butter69; 1194321]I also went with this girl a few months ago. Picked her up from Beach Road.
Payed 500 baht for short time. She was a good shag[/QUOTE]2008, nearly 3 years ago, she was asking for 1200 baht and judging by the pictures and performance reported she knew what she was worth in the free market? In 2011, she is now asking only 500 baht. Hell! Does she even look the same? What does that dress look like now? Has the free market drop so much? Has she decline so much that her pussy isn't sweet any longer? That explains why this morning there are so many guys walking up and down Beach Road? I never seen so many guys and the tents for selling clothes aren't even here any longer?
I better get back down there? LBM
Started out in the evening on the famous soi 6 (had to check it out at least once) , you really can't be ready enough for something like this. As you walk by the street, girls just jump on your back, it's like a you being paraded, with girls shouting out from both sides. Noticed loads od ladyboys, especially on soi 6/1 (the small street behind). I saw a ladyboy who looked so beautiful, I have not seen anything like that in high-end go-go bars, what a shame. Stopped by at 2 bars for a drink, one of them where the girls wear the green outfits and cap. Girls were young and cute, but somehow hardened (kept asking me to select one of them for boom-boom upstairs, spoke dirty, held and played with my cock, not really my kind of thing). They spoke about coming on the faces, swallowing my cum, taking it in the ass, if you are hardcore into that kind of stuff, there is no better place. Had a drink with a young Italian, first time visitor to Pattaya.
Now walking street, first Baccara, crowded, overall girl quality quite good, bought one a drink, however didn't find that stunner I was looking for. LT rares there are 3000 as told to me by the girl. Next Peppermint, then Tiger, both had good girls, but again no stunner (after few days here my standard has really gone up, on day 1 I would bonk any of these girls). Stopped at Champion, quite empty really, the girl I had my eye on was off, mamasan tried calling here especially for me but she didn't answer. My regular was there too, but she had her periods and would not go out. Then iron club, few good ladies but all taken, then Airport. This place was packed, had a special ambience, with the place designed to look like an aircraft and the hostesses and mamasan dressed up as air-hostesses. The waitresses were sexy and overall there were some very nice girls (8's). The only 9 I saw was sitting with a customer next to me, he was with her for a long time and planned on barfining her. I could tell there was some price negotiation which was not working out, the guy was trying to convince her but he finally left. Before anyone else had a look, I bought her a drink and asked her to sit next to me. She said she was 26 (can't remember name) , most of the girls I like are between 18 and 20, so this one must have really maintained herself. When we finally got down to price, she was asking for 3000 ST and 4000 LT, I have been paying girls 2000 LT, but still offered her 3000 LT (which is the higher end of prices in Pattaya, don't want to spoil the market) , but she felt insulted and walked away. I was not going to let my small brother take control of my head, so left, she kept looking at me as I left as she thought I would agree. I never understand this mentality, it was already late, better take 3000 then nothing. Anyway, with such attitude, I can only imagine how poor the service would be. BTW here I bought mamasan a drink which really helps, she brings the girls you like to you one by one for you to get a closer look. Then had to stop by my favourite go-go on walking street Sweethearts, amazing music and ambience, very friendly waitresses and owner, very reasonable drinks. Had a drink there, didn't see the girl I fancied the previous day (nobody knew who I was talking about) , left after a drink, the Misty go-go, place was empty, had a drink with the mamasan, who told me all the hot ladies were barfined, to come early tomorrow, she will have 2-3 hotties for me to choose from. I remember this place from 4 years ago, barfined my best experience in Pattaya from here (unfortunately it was my last night then, otherwise would have kept her). Back to soi LK, thought I'd go with ST with the stunner in Submarine go-go, but she was sitting with someone, final stop Champagne go-go. Finally had to settle for another 8, name Be (or something like that) , since it was already almost 3, she agreed to stay till 2 pm for 2000 baht. I have found that the 9's either have too much attitude or are always taken by other customers, it is definitely more wise to take the 7's and 8's, who provide a more GFE and far better service, but you can't help it when the little brother is doing all the thinking. Will continue posting.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1194304].I will leave you with these quotes from a book I am currently reading,"Sex Slaves: the trafficking of women in Asia" by Loise Brown:[/QUOTE]PP, why would you read that kind of propaganda, written by a Western Woman? Girls become prostitutes because it is huge money, easily had, which in our brutal capitalist society is what constitutes a 'good life'. Most girls I've talked to say that Pattaya for them represents [b]freedom[/b]. To get away from their stultifying hometowns, their oppressive families, and make middle class money for doing essentially what the local boys would be doing to them for free (after all the girls we get in Pattaya are the dregs looks-wise, by Thai standards, and would be more or less discount goods upcountry). I think we can feel confident that our service providers have the newest I-phone or expensive handbag on their mind when they're boomsing with us, not the goal of being reborn as a man.
Come to think of it, I only ever talk to freelancers, either on the Beach Road or elsewhere in Thailand. Perhaps the girls in the bars are not as free. By definition they're stuck in one place waiting all the time, which is not very fun. But even they aren't any less free than the poor slobs stuck in 7-11, or a factory, or for that matter the few percent of Thais still actually stuck back on the farm.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1194471]Started out in the evening on the famous soi 6 (had to check it out at least once) , you really can't be ready enough for something like this. Girls were young and cute, but somehow hardened (kept asking me to select one of them for boom-boom upstairs, spoke dirty, held and played with my cock, not really my kind of thing). They spoke about coming on the faces, swallowing my cum, taking it in the ass, if you are hardcore into that kind of stuff, there is no better place.[/QUOTE]Weren't you there to try to fuck something? Is it that you much prefer a fantasy romp acting as if the girl is not a hooker? All they did was cut to the chase and not try to string you along. Just straight to the point. I do A, B, and C. What do you like? Let's go to the room. Can't get any easier.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1194589]Come to think of it, I only ever talk to freelancers, either on the Beach Road or elsewhere in Thailand. Perhaps the girls in the bars are not as free. By definition they're stuck in one place waiting all the time, which is not very fun. But even they aren't any less free than the poor slobs stuck in 7-11, or a factory, or for that matter the few percent of Thais still actually stuck back on the farm.[/QUOTE]I don't know O. I always thought the ones in the bar had to abide by rules too, but a lot of girls that I know who work in bars are able to come and go as they please throughout the day. How many other people can say that have that privilege on the job?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1194693]Weren't you there to try to fuck something? Is it that you much prefer a fantasy romp acting as if the girl is not a hooker? All they did was cut to the chase and not try to string you along. Just straight to the point. I do A, B, and C. What do you like? Let's go to the room. Can't get any easier.[/QUOTE]No I didn't plan on going out and fuck something on soi 6. I just wanted to get the feel of a place that is so much talked about on this forum. IMHO, there is nothing wrong with what these girls do, different men have different fantasies, they understand that. I just prefer a slightly classier set-up and less hardened girls (with less mileage). I understand it will cost me more, but I'm willing to pay that little bit more. Besides, the night was still too young, I prefer LT to ST, that too with an 8+. Almost always will take the girl to my hotel room, as it's quite difficult for me to get aroused in a small, dingy room. Like I said, it's just a personal thing, other mongerers are not at all wrong by thinking differently.
[QUOTE=Rip Van Winkle; 1194254]Bro,
Had a similar experience here. I am an Indian too and live in India; I am well travelled across the globe, speak good English, dress up well, behave well and always travel alone to Pattaya. Just returned from my 5th visit to Pattaya. So, I am pretty much used to this "door man vetting process" now.
Rip[/QUOTE]I have had similar experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya. They simply don't care how much you can spend in these places. Apparently people such as who know how to behave in such a place are limited. Others who visit from India are majority from a different background and have a different way of acting at such places. Most Go-Gos want you to spend and take girls back although as I have been informed many just prefer the free shows+beer and sit for hours even negotiating low prices with Girls who might agree and then refuse to take them. Hence some GoGos have adopted a policy of barring anyone who resembles an Indian!
It is sad but sometimes I am lucky sometime am not. Have to live with it!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1194694]I don't know O. I always thought the ones in the bar had to abide by rules too, but a lot of girls that I know who work in bars are able to come and go as they please throughout the day. How many other people can say that have that privilege on the job?[/QUOTE]This is what I learn from living here in Pattaya, I can't speak about anywhere else. Many of the bars like on Soi 7/8 for example have a combination of girls who are on salary and freelancers. It is very hard to lock all the girls in with a salary it can be expensive if the bar doesn't make a lot of money. The ones on contract are the ones that pay a fine like 500 baht a day when they don't show up for work. So to be able to generate willing girls they need to have FL, and sometimes the FL is the friend or the owner or bring in lots of clients when they do work so they are given more freedom to come and go.
Also it should be pointed out regarding racism, that Bacarra, Cavern ( not sure if still open ) Heaven Above, Peppermint are connected and have the same investors or owners.
LBM
[QUOTE=Opebo;1194589]PP, why would you read that kind of propaganda, written by a Western Woman?[/QUOTE]The title intrigued me because it relates to a topic of much interest, namely P4P sex in SE Asia. In retrospect, after having finished most of it, it is quite entertaining, hard to put down, and up there with Stephen Leather, Stickman, Wikipedia, OTH and Opebo. Although copyrighted 2000 AD, it gives a perspective and facts on prostitution and mongering in various countries that probably has not changed much since then. There are 9 chapters:
1. The Market.
2. The Commodity.
3. The Agents.
4. Seasoning.
5. The Customers.
6. The Management.
7. The Law {of the Penis}
8. Life and Death.
9. The Shame.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1194589]Girls become prostitutes because it is huge money, easily had, which in our brutal capitalist society is what constitutes a 'good life'.[/QUOTE]Yes, and they also become prostitutes for various other reasons such as someone sold them, they were kidnapped, to support a drug habit, they felt it was their duty, to pay off debts {of their own or their family}, they were abused and felt they deserved more abuse, etc.
Many may not feel it is money so "easily had", especially when they end up with STDs like HIV, Hep C, or are beaten or worse. It is a very high risk profession even when a lady enters it relatively voluntarily.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1194589]Most girls I've talked to say that Pattaya for them represents [b]freedom[/b]. To get away from their stultifying hometowns, their oppressive families, and make middle class money for doing essentially what the local boys would be doing to them for free (after all the girls we get in Pattaya are the dregs looks-wise, by Thai standards, and would be more or less discount goods upcountry). I think we can feel confident that our service providers have the newest I-phone or expensive handbag on their mind when they're boomsing with us, not the goal of being reborn as a man.[/QUOTE]I've had SW TGs tell me about their plans to buy expensive cell phones and other stuff too. But there is a lot more to them than just selfish materialism. Even more IME speak of supporting their parents, brothers and sisters, grandma or, as single mothers, taking care of their own children. They also talk about donations to monks, going to the temple, improving their luck {karma? } and ghosts. They appear to be quite religious and superstitious, far more so than SP's I've known in the Western world. Some of them express longings for their "hometowns" and "families", or that they don't want to hook anymore, or once they can afford their own business or finish university they will quit P4P for a job that would earn them far less.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1194589]Come to think of it, I only ever talk to freelancers, either on the Beach Road or elsewhere in Thailand. Perhaps the girls in the bars are not as free. By definition they're stuck in one place waiting all the time, which is not very fun. But even they aren't any less free than the poor slobs stuck in 7-11, or a factory, or for that matter the few percent of Thais still actually stuck back on the farm.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1194830]I have had similar experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya. They simply don't care how much you can spend in these places. Apparently people such as who know how to behave in such a place are limited. Others who visit from India are majority from a different background and have a different way of acting at such places. Most Go-Gos want you to spend and take girls back although as I have been informed many just prefer the free shows+beer and sit for hours even negotiating low prices with Girls who might agree and then refuse to take them. Hence some GoGos have adopted a policy of barring anyone who resembles an Indian!
It is sad but sometimes I am lucky sometime am not. Have to live with it![/QUOTE]After staying sometime here in Pattaya, I have realized that in these places, Arabs are more barred than Indians, I look a little Arab, lots of people tell me that, that could be the reason. BTW there is another fourth club (Beach club off WS) , where I was stopped, despite having a hot woman with me who I had barfined earlier. They simply said that Arabs weren't allowed (unlike other clubs where they diplomatically said it was member's only) , I tried and explained that I wasn't Arab but they didn't believe me. I have been staying with a lady I barfined last two nights from a go-go, (great GFE) and she explained to me about the large Arab Zone (as they call it) , behind WS, and the Arabs have strange sexual fantasies, hence a lot of them take the ladyboys (who can fulfill most of them) , not sure how far this is true.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1194933]After staying sometime here in Pattaya, I have realized that in these places, Arabs are more barred than Indians,[/QUOTE]Arabs are barred in some places as some girls told me compared to Indians who look for a free show, the Arabs are more abusive and rude. They are known to be very rough, aggressive and abusive once they are with the girls. Also inside the place they are known to throw attitude causing inconvenience to others. Hence most places keep a No Arab No Indian policy By either stating Members only or simply refusing entry.
There is a way around if you are able to con them by changing your appearance and dressing style to be more American or European!
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1194936]Arabs are barred in some places as some girls told me compared to Indians who look for a free show, the Arabs are more abusive and rude. They are known to be very rough, aggressive and abusive once they are with the girls. Also inside the place they are known to throw attitude causing inconvenience to others. Hence most places keep a No Arab No Indian policy By either stating Members only or simply refusing entry.[/QUOTE]Bro, not most places, only very few, only 4 out of around 50 go-go's I have visited stopped me, I have been to all go-go's on WS and most off WS (may have missed few small ones, but there is no hassle entering small ones anyway). The four are Alcatraz, Fahreneit, (on WS) , Happy go-go and Beach Club (off WS). In areas away from WS, there is problem at all. So we can still enjoy 90-95 percent of places.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1194693]Weren't you there to try to fuck something? Is it that you much prefer a fantasy romp acting as if the girl is not a hooker? All they did was cut to the chase and not try to string you along. Just straight to the point. I do A, B, and C. What do you like? Let's go to the room. Can't get any easier.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but that is not what he wants. And the customer is always right. Right?
There is a way around if you are able to con them by changing your appearance and dressing style to be more American or European![/QUOTE]Well you can change all that, but you can't change your colour. Besides, I would not even try to pass of as of American or European origin as I'm not ashamed of mine. You wait and see, in 5-10 years, once the Indian economy evolves from developing to developed, and as western economies further decline (also with the population decline of the white race) , these clubs will have no choice but to take colored people in or else they will run out of business. Mark my words, it will happen sooner than we think.
Been quite busy, hence unable to post timely. Started day 7 at Misty go-go, where the mamasan had promised some cute girls to choose from. Didn't really like anything, bought a drink for one and left. Next stop, next door at Climax go-go (opposite What's up). Slightly better girls, no stunner, but one girl did catch my eye, I am very much a face person, and this girl had a cute face and smile (very tiny girl, with real small breasts). Bought her a drink, found some good chemistry going, wanted 3000, but readily agreed to 2000, bar fine 600. This girl spoke good English and looked the more classy type (not sleazy or hardened) , work name was Honey, age 21. She had been home for 2 months and it was only her first day at work after returning. Had put on a few pounds at home (she kept complaining about it). We went to play few games of pool, then a drink at the Moon Club on WS, she had a friend who worked there, got some info from her, barfine before midnight is 2000 baht, after midnight is 1000 baht, girl fee varied from 2500-3000. This was the only club I've been where you paid for every drink immediately after you were served, I was told it was the same for girl fee too. Slightly expensive place. After a drink, went to my favourite place Sweethearts go-go, had another drink there, same girls of average quality. My girl wanted to enter I club (bar of Insomnia disco). Saw few good feelancers quite early. After a drink there, we went for seafood dinner to Nang Nual, then back to my hotel. 2 pops in the night. 1 in the morning, this girl kept cuddling and kissing me all night, massaging my dick every few hours to make me hard. My observation was true. The 7's & 8's provide the best experience, I had taken mostly 9's earlier, who were all 18 & 19, and their services were lacking compared to this one. Her pussy was also quite small. Thought I'd keep her for another day. She went home at 3 pm, while I went to the gym and swimming. She came back in the evening, another pop before going out, we stopped at few beer bars, I was looking for another lady to bring back for a threesome, she had no problem with that. Then we went back to WS, entered Silver Star go-go, found a stunner, but she was showing too much attitude, so didn't bother. My girl said she has two friends who worked at What's Up. We went there for a drink, some nice ladies, no stunner. Didn't like her friends too much. Then we played few games of pool, went bowling at California bowling on second road, ate there too. Back in my room by 1, 2 pops before sleep, really struggled with second, then slept in each others arms, woke up at 11 (missed breakfast again) , another pop, slept again, woke up at 2, she didn't mind another pop, but I was in no state. She left at 3, really great GFE, strongly recommended. Will try few new places tonight and keep posting.
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1195140]Yeah, but that is not what he wants. And the customer is always right. Right?[/QUOTE]Very funny, BTW not everyone screws a girl or barfines a girl the first or even second place they go. Some don't barfine at all on some nights. The girl, the price, the set-up should be right, everyone has different tastes, preferences and budgets, and the good thing about Pattaya is it caters to everybody. So please cut the sarcasm and refrain from commenting on other's likes and dislikes.
Started at few bars on soi 8 (Club 23 and the one where the girls wear the pink dresses and caps) , went to soi LK next and tried out MASH, they seemed to have regular customers who knew the waitresses and dancers well. There was this hot waitress who was sitting with some customers, none of the dancers were any good, so left for walking street. Baccara first, the lady from last time (who I bought a drink for) , was not to be seen, planned on barfining her, while drinking, saw her leave with some Japanese guys. Didn't fancy anyone else, so left, next stop Tiger, I only fancied one girl with big breasts but she was sitting on the lap of a customer, spoke to mamasan, told me she was already barfined by the customer, then went for my daily drink at Sweethearts, nothing to fancy there. Then Naughty girls, even worst, just wasn't going to be my night, so decided to go for a soapy massage in North Pattaya. Tried Sabailand, only 5-6 girls there, all quite old, so walked across the street to Sabai Room, picked a 24 year old Tuk, very average service, too mechanical, spent too little time in the tub and soapy, she was just interested in going home as the place had shut, she was doing overtime and would be the last to leave. Anyway blowjob with condom, then she on top. Came too fast (always happens when I drink too much). Last 15-20 minutes of half-hearted massage. Total damage 1800 baht (for 1. 5 hrs). It was almost 2, picked up a Subway, then back to my hotel. Tomorrow will be my last day here, will depart Saturday morning. Will keep posting.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1195266]Very funny, BTW not everyone screws a girl or barfines a girl the first or even second place they go. Some don't barfine at all on some nights. The girl, the price, the set-up should be right, everyone has different tastes, preferences and budgets, and the good thing about Pattaya is it caters to everybody. So please cut the sarcasm and refrain from commenting on other's likes and dislikes.[/QUOTE]
Man. That is some kick in the ass. For trying to defend you against what I thought was a bit harsh, from another BM (and you being new here). My big mistake. You know, when all of these turn downs and issues arise with the girls and in daily activity in general, maybe you need to look to yourself, rather than your race when accessing what has gone wrong. How you can perceive this was "sarcasm". And a comment on your "likes or dislikes" is completely beyond my ability to comprehend. My apology to Mr Enternational, who apparently had your act right. If this wasn't an annon. Internet forum, you would have a problem now buddy.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1194693]Weren't you there to try to fuck something? Is it that you much prefer a fantasy romp acting as if the girl is not a hooker? All they did was cut to the chase and not try to string you along. Just straight to the point. I do A, B, and C. What do you like? Let's go to the room. Can't get any easier.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1195292]Man. That is some kick in the ass. For trying to defend you against what I thought was a bit harsh, from another BM (and you being new here). My big mistake. You know, when all of these turn downs and issues arise with the girls and in daily activity in general, maybe you need to look to yourself, rather than your race when accessing what has gone wrong. How you can perceive this was "sarcasm". And a comment on your "likes or dislikes" is completely beyond my ability to comprehend. My apology to Mr Enternational, who apparently had your act right. If this wasn't an annon. Internet forum, you would have a problem now buddy.[/QUOTE]Hey buddy, just misunderstood the meaning of your remark, now that you have clarified it, I must apologize to you, no hard feelings.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1195295]Hey buddy, just misunderstood the meaning of your remark, now that you have clarified it, I must apologize to you, no hard feelings.[/QUOTE]You seem to be an intelligent guy and I enjoy your reports. I don't know what happened, but let's just forget it. Mai Pen Rai.
Mongers, always be careful in Pattaya.
Don't touch a girl without permission, and first make sure she's on the game, or you're liable to get your ass beat like this stupid American tourist:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/09/09/pattaya-woman-beats-up-foreigner-on-youtube/[/url]
How much do you guys bring? I know condom sizes can be smaller in Asia. I don't want to bring too many clothes can you can buy some for really cheap. Sunblock. Passport. What am I forgetting?
if you are traveling coach you are allow two suit cases maximum 50 lbs each. don't forget your ties and suits. as for condoms you can get them in all sizes? if you are larger than the average man do what i do and get the largest size available at your local 7/11 store (you know what a 7/11 is?) and fill them up with water and empty them and repack them for later use. if you travel light one can buy original or knock off anywhere and everywhere and they are cheap. for example a copy polo shirt might run you 250 baht which is less that $10. 00 usd, shorts, underwear, socks, everything is available original or copy. sunblock can be purchased again at any 7/11 store, passport, make a few xerox copies if the original is stolen or lost. easier to replace if you have a copy and you can lock your passport away and carry a copies regardless of what others are saying. what are you forgetting? you got your handi wipes and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]? sounds like you will need those? mama isn't coming along this time?
lbm
Definitely bring your own condoms. As for clothes I say travel light and only bring about 5 days worth. Laundry can be done cheaply. Most toiletries, ky, etc can be bought cheaper there than at home. And once you are there get some ky. It will help a lot. T-shirts, hats, etc can be bought very cheaply in Pattaya.
What else to bring?
Itinerary.
Hotel confirmation letter.
Map.
Ziplock bag for airport.
Charger for phone.
Atm / credit card (don't forget to call bank)
LittleBigMan wrote: As for condoms you can get them in all sizes? If you are larger than the average man do what I do and get the largest size available at your local 7/11 store (you know what a 7/11 is?) and fill them up with water and empty them and repack them for later use.
Is that how U-turn Thai condoms into Magnums? Innovative.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1195497]As for condoms you can get them in all sizes? If you are larger than the average man do what I do and get the largest size available at your local 7/11 store (you know what a 7/11 is?) and fill them up with water and empty them and repack them for later use.
LBM[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if that is sound advice. Can't that cause a fungus? If you are really big, sometimes you can use a plastic bag after your suit is dry cleaned.
Started out at Baccara on WS around 8:30, where the overall quality of girls is very good. Shortlisted 3 of them who made the grade in my opinion. Offered one of them a drink and we started talking. However after the usual blah blah, she said she couldn't go out with any customer as she had an arrangement with a Japanese regular customer of hers and the club was well aware of it. I understood that but thought the club should let one know that before he buys a drink for her. Anyway looked around and saw the other two I fancied were already sitting with customers, infact one seemed a real GFE, the way she was getting cosy with him. You blink, you sink, I thought no, it's not going to be one of those nights again. Next stop, Tiger, thought I'd barfine the girl with the big tits I saw the night earlier, shit, already sitting with a Jap. After 10 mins, he left without her, mamasan knew and sent her to me. She had an amazing rack, I spent the next 20-25 minutes kissing and playing with them, while she was riding me while sitting on my lap. Her face was above average, definitely doable. All this while, bought her 2 drinks. She was asking me to barfine her for 3000, which I'm sure she would have agreed to 2500 if I pursued it. Barfine at Tiger is 1000 before midnight. 600 after midnight, it was only 10. All this while my eyes were fixed on another lady dancing, she was more my type, petite, cute face and smile, small tits but good ass. Called her for a drink, we hit it off immediately, I knew this girl would be a good GFE, barfined her 1000 + 2500 for her (the only time this trip I paid more than 2000). Went for seafood at King's on WS, then to my hotel room before midnight, as I had to leave for BKK early morning. Truly a great GFE, one pop within 10 minutes of arriving, then a 40 minute tub bath together, did her again, now she's sleeping and I am posting. Again proven that the 7's and 8's are the ones that provide much better service. She's 20, the last one I barfined was 21, I think this is a better age of girls to pick up. The 18 & 19 year olds look nice but they havn't been around long enough to know how to satisfy. Looking forward to the morning pop, will continue report later, with general observations and summary of my trip. Will also post review of LK Metropole in the relevant thread.
CHICHI.
You guys are pretty nice. How old is he? Clothes, sunscreen, passport? Wouldn't a MAN be able to figure that shit out? Is he making his list so his Mommy can pack for him? Maybe it would be easier to just tell him to go bareback.
I'll will be looking forward to his reports.
[quote=pinkpearl;1194887]yes, and they also become prostitutes for various other reasons such as someone sold them, they were kidnapped, to support a drug habit, they felt it was their duty, to pay off debts {of their own or their family}, they were abused and felt they deserved more abuse, etc.[/quote]plenty of people work on the farm, in factories, in stalls in malls, as waiters or waitresses, in the west as well as the east, to support a drug habit, they felt it was their duty, they felt they didn't deserve anything more, they don't have the certificates, etc.
all the girls i got to know in pattaya and bangkok have been free to come and go. i've visited some in their homes upcountry, i've attended their weddings. this is just my own experience.
[quote=pinkpearl;1194887]i've had sw tgs tell me about their plans to buy expensive cell phones and other stuff too. but there is a lot more to them than just selfish materialism. even more ime speak of supporting their parents, brothers and sisters, grandma or, as single mothers, taking care of their own children.[/quote]yes on the whole they are less materialistic than just about all of my peers.
[quote=pinkpearl;1194887]once they can afford their own business or finish university they will quit p4p for a job that would earn them far less.[/quote]yes once they have the capital. (and the siblings have left school. and the parents have a car. and.)
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1195585]The 18 & 19 year olds look nice but they havn't been around long enough to know how to satisfy. Looking forward to the morning pop, will continue report later, with general observations and summary of my trip. Will also post review of LK Metropole in the relevant thread.[/QUOTE]I.
I agree with you totally. I look forward to the follow up- A photo would be nice. You can check out mine in the Costa del Sol, Spain thread
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1194887]once they can afford their own business or finish university they will quit P4P for a job that would earn them far less.[/QUOTE]Just saw on TV that a new Thai law guarantees college graduates a minimum wage of around $500 a month.
[quote=littlebigman; 1195497]if you are traveling coach you are allow two suit cases maximum 50 lbs each. don't forget your ties and suits. as for condoms you can get them in all sizes? if you are larger than the average man do what i do and get the largest size available at your local 7/11 store (you know what a 7/11 is?) and fill them up with water and empty them and repack them for later use. if you travel light one can buy original or knock off anywhere and everywhere and they are cheap. for example a copy polo shirt might run you 250 baht which is less that $10. 00 usd, shorts, underwear, socks, everything is available original or copy. sunblock can be purchased again at any 7/11 store, passport, make a few xerox copies if the original is stolen or lost. easier to replace if you have a copy and you can lock your passport away and carry a copies regardless of what others are saying. what are you forgetting? you got your handi wipes and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]? sounds like you will need those? mama isn't coming along this time?
lbm[/quote]oh i think so far no one has mentioned the power converter. i still have mine from a previous trip to bkk. also, a thailand sim as well. just trying to build a nice checklist.
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1195505]LittleBigMan wrote: As for condoms you can get them in all sizes? If you are larger than the average man do what I do and get the largest size available at your local 7/11 store (you know what a 7/11 is?) and fill them up with water and empty them and repack them for later use.
Is that how U-turn Thai condoms into Magnums? Innovative.[/QUOTE]Innovative, My thinking is if the target got to be hit why not use a hollow point?
LBM
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1195662]Oh I think so far no one has mentioned the power converter. I still have mine from a previous trip to BKK. Also, a Thailand SIM as well. Just trying to build a nice checklist.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.bettersex.com/lubes-and-more/personal-lubricant/water-based-lubricant/sp-astroglide-oz-531.aspx[/url]
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[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1195448]Mongers, always be careful in Pattaya.
Don't touch a girl without permission, and first make sure she's on the game, or you're liable to get your ass beat like this stupid American tourist:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/09/09/pattaya-woman-beats-up-foreigner-on-youtube/[/url][/QUOTE]I posted the same video and said the same thing several months ago and people on the board said that the girl is a known sex worker so there must have been another reason the guy was beat down.
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]157634[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Forget the ducky. This new pillow at Annies is the best!
[QUOTE=Rip Van Winkle; 1194243]Great Report, Wanderer.
I just returned from a weeks trip in Pattaya. Kinda agree with range for the prices for LT. It should be somewhere between 2000 and 3000. But I guess 3000 is still on the higher side. Definitely for one of the best in the best gogo who gets bf-ed every day I guess. 2,500 is something you could always get even in these high end places. Like Baccara, Airport, Peppermint, Whats Up, etc. They start off quoting 3000 LT, but quickly coming down to 2, 500. I ended up barfining one from Baccara last week for this price and she was a stunner (in my book of course.)
From the some of the other gogos like Baby Dolls, Cavern I was even quoted 2000 LT first quote.
Over the last few visits I have been to Pattaya, I am also starting to realize that the price quotes also has to do with the comfort factor be / w the girl and you. I guess most of them quoted 3000 to me and wouldn't come down to 2500. May be they never wanted to be with me in the first place!
Cheers!
Rip[/QUOTE]My next trip I will be firm to pay a maximum of 1500 (to the girl) regardless of how hot she is, where she works, or how long she stays (up to 24 hours).
I will attempt with great gusto to score lookers from gogos. I will report (with photos) later on my successes (or more likely failures) but I will not lose my resolve. Expect lots of photos from BR short timers, ha ha.
Naw Chichi, don't bother with the passport, you can buy a cheap one there.
Seriously though, there is no cheap Sunblock, it is all imported, so it's a good idea to bring your favorite brand from home.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1195971]Forget the ducky. This new pillow at Annies is the best![/QUOTE]That pillow has one hell of a tail.
You can buy a lot of clothes of good quality and very reasonable to low prices in Thailand provided you are of reasonable height and size.
If you are a tall and big Afro American or a heavy Caucasian guy you can forget it. At least for the brand name cloths. Thais are of smaller size. Eg their XXL is like Medium in the USA or Large in Europe. On the other hand if you fit in their sizes you can find good bargains especially during their sales. Start from the brand non imported names because you get better value and quality for your money.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1195871]I posted the same video and said the same thing several months ago and people on the board said that the girl is a known sex worker so there must have been another reason the guy was beat down.[/QUOTE]Hummm.... The article was just posted in Pattaya Daily News within the last 2 days so that's strange, but sorry for the duplication, I must not have seen your post.
Maybe he insisted roughly that she suck his dick for 250 baht!
Just completed a 10-day visit to Pattaya, have reported each day in fair amount of detail in previous posts, so will only state general observations and summarize my trip. Also, where applicable, I will draw comparisons with Indonesia (where I have more often mongered) , comparing Thailand to S. America or Caribbean would not be right (I just feel the chicas there are much hotter and better looking and provide better GFE). I am only making my personal observations, some may disagree depending on their past experiences, and they have full right to do so.
The girls : Although large number of girls are available (girl to customer ratio is extremely favorable) , I have noticed very few stunners in the go-go bars or beer bars. Maybe the hottest ones are looked after by expats or regular Japs or other tourists (noticed the stunners in various places always had company). Quality of girls at go-go's is definitely not as good as you can see in the higher end malls of Bangkok or Pattaya or at the airport at times. I am quite selective, at the go-go's, maybe I was finding 7-8 hot girls out of 100, in Indonesia, although the number of girls available is far less, I believe the percentage of better looking girls is higher (maybe 7-8 out of 40). I preferred the go-go's as I believe they are cleaner places (girls are checked regularly) , you can find some gems in beer bars, but you have to look much harder. Also, almost all girls put heavy make up to look better and hide their age, there have been so many instances where a girl has looked superhot from only 10 feet, but when I took a closer look, she looked quite bad really, poor light in some places doesn't help either. So always take a close look before deciding, sometimes the girls dancing are not close enough, in that case, if you fancy a girl but are not too sure, wait for her to finish her dance and sit down, then get up and take a good close look while going to the toilet. Also, the girls sitting with other customers always look hotter, when the same girl is on her own, she doesn't look that hot (normal human behaviour / psychology) I spent the night with a girl on 8 out of 10 nights. 2 were repeats. Overall attitude and service from the girls was good, however I noticed the 7's and 8's give a far better GFE, the stunner 9's have attitude as they know they are in demand, also if they are in their early twenties (instead of 18 or 19) , their services will be better. Thai girls generally are smaller breasted, so if you are looking for bigger breasts, you may have to look hard, even if you do find one with big breasts, chances are that she's fat or her face isn't that nice (just my personal observation). Indonesian and Indian women are in general much more bustier.
Go-go bars : Tried almost all of them, you have to go early to get the best girls (before 10 pm). The ones I found with the better looking girls were Baccara, What's Up, Tiger, Airport. My favourite hang-out place was Sweethearts go-go as they played my kind of music and had very friendly owner and waitresses.
Rates : I paid 2000 LT, except for the last night, where I paid 2500 (most girls will agree to this, some stunners may insist on 3000). Bar-fine is 600 in most places. 1000 at the better ones, some places barfine is 1000 till midnight then becomes 600 (in the Moon Club, barfine is 2000 till midnight, then becomes 1000). These are all go-go rates. Beer bar rates are 1500 to 2000 LT for girl and 300 barfine, although I never picked up from beer bars.
Freelancers : Many of them around, especially on beach road, they will make eye contact, some may even call out to you, however it is quite difficult to find the gems. Better looking freelancers are at the discotheques at night, I could see some cute ones, although few may not be available, as they are just a group of friends having a nice time, but no harm asking.
Weather : I was extremely lucky that it drizzled only twice for short periods when I was there (in 10 days). The day I left, and the subsequent day (yesterday) , its seems there was heavy downpour and some places were not accessible.
Soapies : Only went once to Sabai Room in North Pattaya and service was only average, cost 1800 for 1. 5 hrs (massage, soapy and one pop). Unlike 4 years ago, when I noticed some hot young girls there (even got their numbers and went out in their days off) , this time the ladies were much older and less attractive, checked out Sabailand too.
Racism : Like I've written in my posts, I was barred from entering 4 clubs (Alcatraz, Fahreneit, Happy go-go and Beach club) , despite offering to pay for 2 drinks upfront, on one occasion I even had a girl with me who I had barfined earlier, coloured folks please don't try these clubs, it will frustrate and upset you and can have a psychological affect and ruin your holiday, you can still enjoy at 90-95% of places. At Baccara, first time the guy observed if I bought a drink, after seeing me buy my drink and a lady a drink, he didn't bother me on the other occasions I went. It is sad but a fact of life. I have seen so many white guys in the last 10 days enter go-go's, take a round inside, check out all the girls and leave without buying a drink and some even misbehaving inside, I guess the percentage of Indians and Arabs doing this is more, and we coloured guys have to suffer due to the behaviour of few. These clubs don't want to check your passport, nationality, accent or behaviour, if you are not white, you will be told it's a members club and asked to leave, that too not politely. Having said that, I never found this racist attitude with any of the ladies I went out with, if you treat them well, they will reciprocate.
Food : Tried the seafood at King's and Nang Nual on WS, very good food, but expensive. Also had the seafood at the large seafood restaurant in the Arab zone, almost as good, but half the price. Most of the time ate a donner kebab outside my hotel (good value at 50 bahts) or a subway.
Hotel : Was staying at the LK Metropole in central Pattaya, wanted to stay at the newer LK Renaissance, but it was full during that time. Will post a detailed review in the LK Metropole thread.
Next visit : Will stick to Indonesia for the time being, since I know average Bahasa, which helps finding regular girls (I'm sure guys who know Thai feel the same way in Thailand). Also find Indonesian women slightly hotter (at least percentage wise). I found Pattaya too much in your face, may plan a trip to Thailand but to Phuket or Koh Samui where there are more things to do besides mongering, that too in the low season (when it is high season in Indonesia). The racism part at least for me tips things towards Indonesia, where all this is unheard of.
Some advise : If your trip is over a week, space out / plan your trip or you will burn out early with the sex and alcohol, it does takes its toll. 4-5 days in Pattaya is enough, beyond that will tire you, I was feeling drained during my last 2 days. When I monger in Indonesia, I bonk different women for 4-5 days, then go to Bali or Lombok for other activities (scuba, surfing, etc) and to relax for a week (with a girl if I really have found a nice one) , then back to Jakarta or Batam for another 4-5 days of bonking different women, then go home, that works perfectly for me.
I believe I have done my part and hope I've not missed anything useful, will report on my next holiday to Indonesia in January. Guys, thanks for your support and the invaluable info you have provided in earlier posts.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1195971]Forget the ducky. This new pillow at Annies is the best![/QUOTE]WOW. I'm in for at least two of those!!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker;1196026]Seriously though, there is no cheap Sunblock, it is all imported, so it's a good idea to bring your favorite brand from home.[/QUOTE]They do however have an enormous amount of baby powders, foot powders, face powders and ball sack powders. So this is best purchased once inside Thailand and also then you can get the XXXXL size that is usually very cheap compared to the smaller sizes. Powder ON!
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush; 1196244]Just completed a 10-day visit to Pattaya, have reported each day in fair amount of detail in previous posts, so will only state general observations and summarize my trip.
Next visit : Will stick to Indonesia for the time being, since I know average Bahasa, which helps finding regular girls (I'm sure guys who know Thai feel the same way in Thailand). Also find Indonesian women slightly hotter (at least percentage wise). I found Pattaya too much in your face, may plan a trip to Thailand but to Phuket or Koh Samui where there are more things to do besides mongering, that too in the low season (when it is high season in Indonesia). The racism part at least for me tips things towards Indonesia, where all this is unheard of.[/QUOTE]Adrenalinrush, thanks for all of the great posts from your trip. There is much more to do in Pattaya than Phuket or Koh Samui. I think someone posted a list last week of all the things to do here. As far as no racism in Indonesia I would have to disagree. I am a black guy and I was in Bali at the end of July. The 4 days I was there I only saw 1 other black guy. My chances with regular girls closely approached nil. They were not blatant about it, but I could tell. Also when I went to the X house there was a girl I wanted to fuck but the papasan told me that girl was Balinese and he would only allow me to fuck the Javanese women. And you should have seen the initial look on the face of the girl who I had chosen. But when she realized how cool I was she was much more relaxed and even wanted to come with me for the entire night.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1196244]Just completed a 10-day visit to Pattaya, have reported each day in fair amount of detail in previous posts, so will only state general observations and summarize my trip. Also, where applicable, I will draw comparisons with Indonesia (where I have more often mongered) , comparing Thailand to S. America or Caribbean would not be right (I just feel the chicas there are much hotter and better looking and provide better GFE).[/QUOTE]Thanks for reports, it gave me much better picture into the scene.
I am trying to decide where to go in February where the weather is nice and plentiful of available women. I never been in Asia but have been in Sosua, DR, which I enjoyed very much. On my list is Sosua again, Pattay sounds interesting or any other Asian destination such as other parts of Thailand, Philippines, and after Adrenalinrush's comments, Indonesia comes on the list. Will check those threads as well.
What do you guys think is a good first destination in Asia for 2 weeks stay where there is beach or combination of city / beach with very good mongering scene? I look for GFE and reasonable prices. I typically do 3 to 5 STs of couple hours each per day. Is BKK / Pattaya that good first destination?
Adrenalinrush, you mentioned LT prices. How much is for ST?
Thanks all.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1196388]Adrenalinrush, thanks for all of the great posts from your trip. There is much more to do in Pattaya than Phuket or Koh Samui. I think someone posted a list last week of all the things to do here. As far as no racism in Indonesia I would have to disagree. I am a black guy and I was in Bali at the end of July. The 4 days I was there I only saw 1 other black guy. My chances with regular girls closely approached nil. They were not blatant about it, but I could tell. Also when I went to the X house there was a girl I wanted to fuck but the papasan told me that girl was Balinese and he would only allow me to fuck the Javanese women. And you should have seen the initial look on the face of the girl who I had chosen. But when she realized how cool I was she was much more relaxed and even wanted to come with me for the entire night.[/QUOTE]The racism you mention is different. Yes, it's more difficult for coloured guys to find regular non-pro's in Indo, they do have a thing for white guys, but that is more preference than racism (there is no bad feeling). For e. G, it's like us prefering lighter skin girls to darker skin girls, younger girls to older ones, etc. In Indonesia, sex is not as open as it is in Thailand, there are P4 places, but you have to invest some time and build a network of semi-pro's (students, salesgirls who need the pocket money / college money) , it is little more discreet, but it works (I can tell from experience) , you just need to make the girl feel comfortable. Honestly, I prefer to pay little for sex, than get it free with these girls as later there is no excess baggage to carry. In a place like Bali, when you enter a club, yes the hotter ones prefer to go with the white guys, but that's the girl's preference, you can score but you have to flash / offer more cash than the white guys for the same girl, they prefer the cash to the white guys, trust me. But here's the real question and point I'm making. Can you tell me one club in Bali which has stopped you (or any other colored guy) from entering, it is totally unheard of, your money is as good as theirs (BTW if you didn't know this, all the Indonesian single girls entering most clubs in Bali have to pay an entrance fee of 50, 000 rp, which the tourists do not). Regarding the X houses in Sanur, their clientele is mainly Indonesian, and they protect many of the young ones from bules (whether black or white) , they prefer to keep their better looking ones for regular Indonesian clients, I have heard this from a white guy who had a similar experience as yours. You will also find this info in old Indonesia forum reports. The same applies to a certain extent in Batam, when a foreigner (white or black) walks into a massage place to make a selection (for LT) , many places do not bring out the younger, hotter looking girls, they keep them hiding inside, as they want to give these girls to their regular Singaporean- Chinese clients. Also, in places like Sanur or Batam, language has a lot to do with it, very few girls know English and they are more comfortable going with a client who knows Bahasa. I once entered a place in Batam once, and very few girls were shown to me, I spoke some Bahasa and asked in Bahasa if they had more girls (behaved like a local Singaporean) , they then brought out the younger girls for me.
In our lives, at any given age or place, how many times have we had girls turn us down, it happens, it's a part of life, nobody scores always. But what is unacceptable is professional establishments turning us down due to color or race. Just my personal opinion.
[QUOTE=Hedonian;1196426]What do you guys think is a good first destination in Asia for 2 weeks stay where there is beach or combination of city / beach with very good mongering scene? I look for GFE and reasonable prices. I typically do 3 to 5 STs of couple hours each per day. Is BKK / Pattaya that good first destination?[/QUOTE]It all depends where you want to put your focus: beach life or mongering opportunities?
Bangkok is definitely out: there is no beach life there.
Pattaya comes close to your ideal, I think. No shortage of SW for ST in all price ranges. The beach in Pattaya is very lively, somewhat too lively for my taste, but you can always jump in a baht-bus and drive to Jomtien where the beach is much quieter and cleaner.
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1196426]Thanks for reports, it gave me much better picture into the scene.
I am trying to decide where to go in February where the weather is nice and plentiful of available women. I never been in Asia but have been in Sosua, DR, which I enjoyed very much. On my list is Sosua again, Pattay sounds interesting or any other Asian destination such as other parts of Thailand, Philippines, and after Adrenalinrush's comments, Indonesia comes on the list. Will check those threads as well.
What do you guys think is a good first destination in Asia for 2 weeks stay where there is beach or combination of city / beach with very good mongering scene? I look for GFE and reasonable prices. I typically do 3 to 5 STs of couple hours each per day. Is BKK / Pattaya that good first destination?
Adrenalinrush, you mentioned LT prices. How much is for ST?
Thanks all.[/QUOTE]ST prices for girls at go-go's is 1500 and barfine is still 600 (found same rate everywhere I went). I'm not too sure about beer bars, but I believe ST is 1000 and barfine is 300.
Regarding your Asia trip, I havn't been to Philippines, so cannot comment. For a first time visitor in Asia, I believe Thailand is much better than Indonesia, especially if you are white (girls available everywhere in Thailand and sex is more open). However, if you want better beaches and more things to do, I would recommend Phuket (there is a good balance of girls and sight-seeing). You can go through old reports on Phuket thread. And good thing is the place is big, if you prefer the loud nightlife and more women, stay at Patong, if you prefer a more quiet place, with better, cleaner beaches, stay at Karon / Kata. Place is quite scenic and beauitiful, get a bike and ride around the island, you will enjoy it. There are also a whole list of activities to do. Pattaya barely has a beach and it is quite pathetic, however purely for the girls it is a better place. I have found Koh Samui to be the most beautiful place I have visited in Thailand (with the best beaches) , but the girls there are limited (some beer bars near Lamai beach area).
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1196497] But what is unacceptable is professional establishments turning us down due to color or race. Just my personal opinion.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, this attitude of the bars and the bargirls towards Indians is brought on by the droves of noveau riche visitors from India. It doesn't help that a some business people bring a bunch of "carriers" to help carry goods back to India. Most of them have never been out of the country and are just rude, loud and obnoxious. You should take a flight from BKK to CCU and you will know what I am talking about.
I applaud you for trying to change the image, but until the majority of the tourist make an effort to change, you will see this continue. This is more prevalent in Thailand than in other SE Asian countries is because they haven't seen the influx of Indian tourist.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush; 1196497]The racism you mention is different. Yes, it's more difficult for coloured guys to find regular non-pro's in Indo, they do have a thing for white guys, but that is more preference than racism (there is no bad feeling).
In a place like Bali, when you enter a club, yes the hotter ones prefer to go with the white guys, but that's the girl's preference, you can score but you have to flash / offer more cash than the white guys for the same girl, they prefer the cash to the white guys, trust me.
Can you tell me one club in Bali which has stopped you (or any other colored guy) from entering, it is totally unheard of, your money is as good as theirs (BTW if you didn't know this, all the Indonesian single girls entering most clubs in Bali have to pay an entrance fee of 50, 000 rp, which the tourists do not). Regarding the X houses in Sanur, their clientele is mainly Indonesian, and they protect many of the young ones from bules (whether black or white) , they prefer to keep their better looking ones for regular Indonesian clients, I have heard this from a white guy who had a similar experience as yours.
The same applies to a certain extent in Batam, when a foreigner (white or black) walks into a massage place to make a selection (for LT) , many places do not bring out the younger, hotter looking girls, they keep them hiding inside, as they want to give these girls to their regular Singaporean- Chinese clients. Also, in places like Sanur or Batam, language has a lot to do with it, very few girls know English and they are more comfortable going with a client who knows Bahasa.
In our lives, at any given age or place, how many times have we had girls turn us down, it happens, it's a part of life, nobody scores always. But what is unacceptable is professional establishments turning us down due to color or race. Just my personal opinion.[/QUOTE]You are exactly right. It was more preference than racism. And with me being a Cheap Charlie you know I was not going to spend money like some of the other guys were doing. No club in Bali stopped me from going in. As a matter of fact they didn't even have people at the door. Hell, most of them didn't have a door because they were pretty much open air. I was in Batam a couple of years ago and I didn't even have a prayer then. The pimp gave us a price but later reneged because the girls didn't want to fuck me and my wingmen. In Singapore the girls wanted to fuck us but the papasans didn't want us stretching their girls out of shape. LOL There I ended up getting a SW for 35SD and running to the room before the pimp could come change it to the 100SD foreigner price.
[QUOTE=El Greco; 1196040]You can buy a lot of clothes of good quality and very reasonable to low prices in Thailand provided you are of reasonable height and size.
If you are a tall and big Afro American or a heavy Caucasian guy you can forget it. At least for the brand name cloths. Thais are of smaller size. Eg their XXL is like Medium in the USA or Large in Europe. On the other hand if you fit in their sizes you can find good bargains especially during their sales. Start from the brand non imported names because you get better value and quality for your money.[/QUOTE]I'm a husky build; 48" chest and 36" waist. I just returned from Pattaya and bought many shirts and shorts at Mike's Plaza that fit me perfectly. Knock off Nike's, Billabong shorts, all good.
[QUOTE=Noclew; 1196521]Unfortunately, this attitude of the bars and the bargirls towards Indians is brought on by the droves of noveau riche visitors from India. It doesn't help that a some business people bring a bunch of "carriers" to help carry goods back to India. Most of them have never been out of the country and are just rude, loud and obnoxious. You should take a flight from BKK to CCU and you will know what I am talking about.
I applaud you for trying to change the image, but until the majority of the tourist make an effort to change, you will see this continue. This is more prevalent in Thailand than in other SE Asian countries is because they haven't seen the influx of Indian tourist.[/QUOTE]Sat at one of the Lucky Star bars most of last week and mentioned to my wingman how many Indian guys I saw that were getting turned down by SW's who were looking for company on WS. I thought it was that they were low-balling the girls for the best price. When I asked the Thai hostess, she said the majority of Thai girls will not go with an Indian guy. I was surprised because there were far more Indians on WS than I noted from my visit last year. You won't see many Indian guys in go-go bars, not sure if they're not allowed, or if its just not their thing.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1196519]I believe Thailand is much better than Indonesia, especially if you are white (girls available everywhere in Thailand and sex is more open). However, if you want better beaches and more things to do, I would recommend Phuket (there is a good balance of girls and sight-seeing). Pattaya barely has a beach and it is quite pathetic, however purely for the girls it is a better place.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. You narrowed down my quest for my next destination in Asia. If someone has any comments about Philippines, I would love to hear. I think my Asia destination will be couple of days in BKK and remainder in Phuket.
I am white, close to 50's, and overweight guy (not surprise to other forum members) , originally from Eastern Europe but lived long and naturalized in the good old US of A. Unfortunately, despite how much I love and appreciate USA, it is indeed a sex prison. I realize that and I look forward new experiences in colorful tropical destinations.
How would you compare Thailand and Caribbean and South American places? Where do you like to go south of the USA and why? What would you pick, south of the border, or south east Asia?
Thanks a lot!
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1196564]Thanks for the reply. You narrowed down my quest for my next destination in Asia. If someone has any comments about Philippines, I would love to hear. I think my Asia destination will be couple of days in BKK and remainder in Phuket.
I am white, close to 50's, and overweight guy (not surprise to other forum members) , originally from Eastern Europe but lived long and naturalized in the good old US of A. Unfortunately, despite how much I love and appreciate USA, it is indeed a sex prison. I realize that and I look forward new experiences in colorful tropical destinations.
How would you compare Thailand and Caribbean and South American places? Where do you like to go south of the USA and why? What would you pick, south of the border, or south east Asia?
Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]The A B C islands (well not Bonaire as much) and SXM are great for a long weekend. Aruba's my personal favorite. The DR is a lot of work as a rookie to get acclimated as the culture is really right out of a movie and some Spanish is essential to really succeed but once you know your way its good as well but still always some work. In the end though, IMHO, nothing beats SE Asia.
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1196564]Thanks for the reply. You narrowed down my quest for my next destination in Asia. If someone has any comments about Philippines, I would love to hear. I think my Asia destination will be couple of days in BKK and remainder in Phuket.
I am white, close to 50's, and overweight guy (not surprise to other forum members) , originally from Eastern Europe but lived long and naturalized in the good old US of A. Unfortunately, despite how much I love and appreciate USA, it is indeed a sex prison. I realize that and I look forward new experiences in colorful tropical destinations.
How would you compare Thailand and Caribbean and South American places? Where do you like to go south of the USA and why? What would you pick, south of the border, or south east Asia?
Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Phuket is not for mongers. It is just a tourist destination. Your choice should be BKK, Pattaya, angeles city and manila in Phi.
As for south of USA DR, CR are good destinations for newbies.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1196244]Racism : Like I've written in my posts, I was barred from entering 4 clubs (Alcatraz, Fahreneit, Happy go-go and Beach club) , despite offering to pay for 2 drinks upfront, on one occasion I even had a girl with me who I had barfined earlier, coloured folks please don't try these clubs, it will frustrate and upset you and can have a psychological affect and ruin your holiday, you can still enjoy at 90-95% of places. At Baccara, first time the guy observed if I bought a drink, after seeing me buy my drink and a lady a drink, he didn't bother me on the other occasions I went. It is sad but a fact of life. I have seen so many white guys in the last 10 days enter go-go's, take a round inside, check out all the girls and leave without buying a drink and some even misbehaving inside, I guess the percentage of Indians and Arabs doing this is more, and we coloured guys have to suffer due to the behaviour of few. These clubs don't want to check your passport, nationality, accent or behaviour, if you are not white, you will be told it's a members club and asked to leave, that too not politely. Having said that, I never found this racist attitude with any of the ladies I went out with, if you treat them well, they will reciprocate.[/QUOTE]I have just returned from a week long trip to Pattaya and didn't notice any form of discrimination. I am an dark colored Hispanic American and for the most part I bewildered most of the Thais because they couldn't figure out what I was. A lot thought I may have been an asian mix so maybe that was why I didn't see any discrimination. Anyways, your post was awesome and extremely informative. If I didn't have a friend who knows Pattaya to show me around your post would have been the next best thing.
One thing that I would say about my trip is that IMHO Thai women are beautiful. Before moving to China last year I was not a big fan of Asian women. Now I can't seem to get enough. Each countries women have their own beauty but so far, to me, Thai women are the hottest. They have the tightest bodies. Wow, is the only way to describe them.
G
Hi Hedonian,
I am always comparing countries in different parts of the world, too. Not an expert in any of them but have been to Asia (PI, VN, BKK) for about a month 2X / year the last six years vs. 2-3 week stays in Carribean / Mexico / South America. Here's my. 02.
Asia: cheaper and better for longer visits.
Carribean / SA: better scenery (beyond mongering) and bigger boobs.
For short visits go to Tijuana.
Used for airport service to Pattaya and return trip, last week. Cost was 2200 BHT R / T, no up front fees, pay on arrival. Prompt service, nice 4-door sedan with leather seats.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1196741]Phuket is not for mongers. It is just a tourist destination. Your choice should be BKK, Pattaya, angeles city and manila in Phi.
As for south of USA DR, CR are good destinations for newbies.[/QUOTE]Totally disagree, just walk at Patong area at night, definitely more noisy than Pattaya, thousands of single ladies available in the bars and discotheques, many go-go's too, soi lion and soi tiger come to mind. There is more than enough action. Plus so much more to do in terms of touristy stuff. Been there thrice, and found so much action in low season, most forum members will agree. From your report, it clearly shows you've never been there, please do not mislead people on the forum, there are often some grey areas in discussions, things which may appear different to different people, based on their experience, but this is definitely not one of them.
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1196810]-- please do not mislead people on the forum, there are often some grey areas in discussions, things which may appear different to different people, based on their experience, but this is definitely not one of them.[/QUOTE]I agree!
You can find action just about anywhere in Thailand if you have even the slightest sense of where it is. Last year, on a trip to the south, I got laid in Hua Hin, Trang town, and even Narathiawat!
There are so many girls looking for action on Phuket that you could spend years there and never hit the same one. Even quiet islands like Koh Lanta have massage shops and karaoke joints with willing women.
Some guys on this forum couldn't find a hamburger in McDonald's if it jumped up and hit them smack on their dick! ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1196888]I agree!
There are so many girls looking for action on Phuket that you could spend years there and never hit the same one. Even quiet islands like Koh Lanta have massage shops and karaoke joints with willing women.
Some guys on this forum couldn't find a hamburger in McDonald's if it jumped up and hit them smack on their dick! .[/QUOTE]Thank you. Finally someone with some sense.
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1196564]How would you compare Thailand and Caribbean and South American places? Where do you like to go south of the USA and why? What would you pick, south of the border, or south east Asia?
Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Having been to these place a few times, I would say PI is a place to consider just because it is cheep compare to others and also very many options. However you can't expect wild maxworld experience in PI. If you interested in that Pattaya is close bet. And more so in FKK in Germany with many east euro / Russian invasion now a days. Remember cost wise, there is not much difference between a session in FKK and DD in Pattaya.
South of our country is get better and better as you travel south. Santiago Chile a desalination I started like it. DR is not my preference as it is becoming run of the mill.
[QUOTE=Gonzilla; 1196745]I have just returned from a week long trip to Pattaya and didn't notice any form of discrimination. I am an dark colored Hispanic American and for the most part I bewildered most of the Thais because they couldn't figure out what I was. A lot thought I may have been an asian mix so maybe that was why I didn't see any discrimination. Anyways, your post was awesome and extremely informative. If I didn't have a friend who knows Pattaya to show me around your post would have been the next best thing.
One thing that I would say about my trip is that IMHO Thai women are beautiful. Before moving to China last year I was not a big fan of Asian women. Now I can't seem to get enough. Each countries women have their own beauty but so far, to me, Thai women are the hottest. They have the tightest bodies. Wow, is the only way to describe them.
G[/QUOTE]Last time I was there I saw this in a bar in Soi 7. They would have served me but refused to serve my friend who is black. We moved on to another bar.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1196888]I agree!
Some guys on this forum couldn't find a hamburger in McDonald's if it jumped up and hit them smack on their dick! .[/QUOTE]That may be the quote of the year! And trust me, it is not just in Thailand! BTW, GREAT photo. That's a "staff" meeting I would like to "attend"!
Thanks,
Sky
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1196888]Some guys on this forum couldn't find a hamburger in McDonald's if it jumped up and hit them smack on their dick! ;)[/QUOTE]Many of us have extremely tight budgets and / or very particular and stringent requirements (needs?). I've been to Phuket only once, but it definitely wasn't my style. Very expensive, and a smaller population of providers relative to customers (obviously comparing to Pattaya).
[QUOTE=Opebo;1197041]Many of us have extremely tight budgets and / or very particular and stringent requirements (needs?). I've been to Phuket only once, but it definitely wasn't my style. Very expensive, and a smaller population of providers relative to customers (obviously comparing to Pattaya).[/QUOTE]What is the cost difference for ST and LT between Pattaya and Phukett? How about between Pattaya and BKK?
[QUOTE=Hedonian;1197063]What is the cost difference for ST and LT between Pattaya and Phukett? How about between Pattaya and BKK?[/QUOTE]Just be like most guys. Pay what ever they ask.
[QUOTE=Hedonian;1197063]What is the cost difference for ST and LT between Pattaya and Phukett? How about between Pattaya and BKK?[/QUOTE]You can find that information in many reports. Traditionally prices were about half in Pattaya compared to Phuket and Bangkok. Classically it has been 500 short and 1000 long in Pattaya, and about 1000 short and 2000 long in both Bangkok and Phuket. However nowadays the prices may be different.
But what really makes Pattaya better is the Beach Road. I used to pay 300 baht for short times there in the good old days around 2001-2003. Nowadays it is almost impossible to find anything less than 500, but the great part is there is no bar-fine. This scene will probably be eliminated very soon, so check it out before it is whipped out.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1197041]Many of us have extremely tight budgets and / or very particular and stringent requirements (needs?). I've been to Phuket only once, but it definitely wasn't my style. Very expensive, and a smaller population of providers relative to customers (obviously comparing to Pattaya).[/QUOTE]Oh the drama! Isn't it nice to have choices?
Phuket is a large island with many options. Sure if you only go once and look in a few locales you'll only find what you are not looking for. This has been previously discussed to no end on this board.
It's been a couple of years ago for me, but I went there three times. I did it on the relative cheap, even in Patong. Stayed in a guest house, drank at beer bars, and spent my mornings at massage shops. It's all there, and you just need to negotiate a bit to get what you want for the price you can pay. I did find food to be more expensive. Hard to negotiate a restaurant menu!
Sure, Pattaya is cheaper and easier for the budget minded monger. Beach Road and Soi 6 are the bargain basements of Thai pussy, but you do get what you pay for! Not that that's a bad thing, mind you.
You are accurate FON TOK. I like Patong, but if you get away from it prices are as cheap as any of the other spots. Phuket is a really nice place in my opinion with plenty of mongering options. Could have more MP in a concentrated area than any other place in Thailand.
Went to Soi 6 after arriving in Pattaya with the intention of just chilling out at one of the bars and watching the world go by, before moving on to other venues.
Arrived with my wingman and decided on Kiss Cool.
Chatting with the girls and after about 2 hours we both decided to BF. BF was 400 THB for taking the girl out of the bar for the night. Both girls wanted 1000 THB for LT although I later found out some there go for 1500.
Anyway, first time I have BF'd from the first bar I visited and she was a very willing performer, I didn't go anal or ask to.
Stayed until midday the next day and decided to BF her for the next 2 nights as she was good company out of the sack.
Went to the show at Angelwitch which I hadn't seen for about 2 years and if your BF hasn't it's worth taking her. It was good and the beer (Sing) was 150 THB, expensive but then you get the show.
Scoffed at the Beer Garden, twice, both times it was good and the girls enjoyed it too.
Everywhere was quiet, stayed 3 nights mid week so plenty to chose from.
My first time in Thailand. Spent 3 days in Pattaya, and was amazed at it. Never seen such an open place. Walking street was interesting, but I did not like the feel of it so much, and did not find anything I liked despite visiting a few places. The first night I took a FL off beach road. Slightly chubby for a Thai. 23yo, pretty. I took her ST and she gave a great BBBJ, followed by FJ missionary style, another BJ and then finished off doggy style. She was willing to do anal, but I did not want to. Cost was 500THB, but I tipped her an extra 100 for this ST.
Second night I met a few friends and we went to Soi6. Really likes a girl at the first bar, but wanted to see the street, so did not BF her. Had a great time visiting the different bars and messing around with the girls. At the end of the night I went back to find her but she was not there. Luckily her good looking friend was, so we went upstairs. Early 20's, great body, pretty, outgoing, and dirty as hell. This street apparently has to close at 1:30 though, so she was rushing to finish before then. Still she was good. Gave a great BBBJ and CIM. Damage was 300 BF and 700 for her.
Third night I went to a bar off Beach street, and took a girl I had met on the first night back to my Hotel. She was 22, spoke little English, and may not have been from Thailand. Very small tits, slim body, quite pretty and a lovely smile and friendly personality. In bed she seemed inexperienced and shy, but she was compliant and did not refuse anything I wanted. She was very passive, and I explored her fully with 3 shots over the night. The BF was 300 and 1000 for her.
Pattaya has a lot to offer, especially if you get off Walking Street.
Hey fella's I've been in & out of Phuket mostly 3 trips many months. I'm looking to play & pay in BKK & Pattaya.
Any recommendations on where to stay, in either BKK or Pattaya (I want to plant in one place for a month) for very easy access to plenty of women?
Strippers, clubs, good bar girls, discos, students.
Apartment or hotel. Budget on the month stay I want to keep around $800
[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1196810]Totally disagree, just walk at Patong area at night, definitely more noisy than Pattaya, thousands of single ladies available in the bars and discotheques, many go-go's too, soi lion and soi tiger come to mind. There is more than enough action. Plus so much more to do in terms of touristy stuff. Been there thrice, and found so much action in low season, most forum members will agree. From your report, it clearly shows you've never been there, please do not mislead people on the forum, there are often some grey areas in discussions, things which may appear different to different people, based on their experience, but this is definitely not one of them.[/QUOTE]Soi Lion now gone, demolished last year. Agree with you that there are lots of options, but Patong is changing and not for the better. The old Soi Seadragon also demolished and replaced with something that is more like an airport terminal. Hope Soi Seadragon has improved for my next trip, but I didn't like it last time. Must count my trips to Phuket, but it must be somewhere around 25+. Sure Patong has go-go's but they don't hold a candle to those in Pattaya or Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Mystery77; 1197326]Hey fella's I've been in & out of Phuket mostly 3 trips many months. I'm looking to play & pay in BKK & Pattaya.
Any recommendations on where to stay, in either BKK or Pattaya (I want to plant in one place for a month) for very easy access to plenty of women?
Strippers, clubs, good bar girls, discos, students.
Apartment or hotel. Budget on the month stay I want to keep around $800[/QUOTE]Is that 800 total, or just for the Apt?
M77,
If that is $800. 00 USD, at 30 to 1 ratio that gives you 24, 000 baht. You can stay in BKK or Pattaya or do a split? You will be able to stay and eat and see a lot of girls but you won't be able to stay in a hotel, more a basic apartment Thai style and have enough money for one LT session or 2 ST session the Whole month. You might get more if you stick to Beach Road or Chinatown in BKK.
Hope that amount for your sake is only for the hotel?
LBM
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1197172]Just be like most guys. Pay what ever they ask.[/QUOTE]LOL. Can't even type. LOL!
Bulletproof Love Luvpuss!
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1197468]LOL. Can't even type. LOL!
Bulletproof Love Luvpuss![/QUOTE]HAHA. Pretty funny from a guy that has contributed absolutely nothing to this forum but a bunch of LOL's in his posts.
That many LOL's usually come from women or pussies. But it fits you. LOL=Loser on Line.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1197406]Is that 800 total, or just for the Apt?[/QUOTE]Oh yes $800 for the month regarding hotel or apartment only.
Other costs are not included.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1197426]M77,
If that is $800. 00 USD, at 30 to 1 ratio that gives you 24, 000 baht. You can stay in BKK or Pattaya or do a split? You will be able to stay and eat and see a lot of girls but you won't be able to stay in a hotel, more a basic apartment Thai style and have enough money for one LT session or 2 ST session the Whole month. You might get more if you stick to Beach Road or Chinatown in BKK.
Hope that amount for your sake is only for the hotel?
LBM[/QUOTE]Yes $800 for the hotel or apartment.
I want to get a good spot & good place as I mentioned. Specific zone radius or recommended apartments or hotels would be appreciated.
Close to good looking healthy women & entertainments. I don't want to have to worry about walking or driving 10 miles back & forth if ultimately
Don't need to. Any ideas or links?
Cheers
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1197468]LOL. Can't even type. LOL!
Bulletproof Love Luvpuss![/QUOTE]First of all, I was agreeing with your post, if SARCASM was your intent. Second. Can't even type. LOL I was referring to myself because I thought it was so funny I couldn't stop laughing. And 3rd, I contribute to this board whatever the Fuck I want to contribute. Since I contributed to the subsription. And 4th, I'm the only Pussy you don't want to Fuck with.
[QUOTE=Mystery77;1197552]Yes $800 for the hotel or apartment. Any ideas or links? Cheers[/QUOTE]Lots of inexpensive guesthouses (500 to 1000+ baht a night) around Soi Buakhao, especially near the intersections with Soi Diana, Soi Leng Kee, Soi LK Metro, and Soi Chaiyapoom.
There are beer bars, go-go bars, massage shops, etc, all around this area. You can catch a "baht bus" to Walking Street for 10 baht, too. A motorcycle taxi will take you to Soi 6 for 40 baht.
For online resources, see:
[url]http://www.lkmetropattaya.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.barspattaya.com/soi-buakhao.html[/url]
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader2007/reader3856.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.pattaya-discover.com/soi-buakhao.html[/url]
Just do a few "google" searches and you'll have more pussy finding information than Brad Pitt on holiday!
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx;1197555]First of all, I was agreeing with your post, if SARCASM was your intent. Second. Can't even type. LOL I was referring to myself because I thought it was so funny I couldn't stop laughing. And 3rd, I contribute to this board whatever the Fuck I want to contribute. Since I contributed to the subsription. And 4th, I'm the only Pussy you don't want to Fuck with.[/QUOTE]Another one of those. Go back to your trailer park and eat some squirrel meat head.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1197586]Another one of those. Go back to your trailer park and eat some squirrel meat head.[/QUOTE]My " trailer park " is with USA ARMY. And soldiers have better things to " eat " than your Family's genealogy.
Racism. NOT only the clubs and bars.
I am currently in Pattaya and staying at a nice. 4 Star, English owned mid range Hotel. (around 2, 000 Baht / night.)
A client of mine in BKK called me and asked me which hotel I was using, the price and if I liked it (he wanted to book 2 overseas business visitors in.)
I gave him the required information and he called the hotel to make a booking.
Everything was good until reception asked him the nationality of the guests. He told them 'They are Indian! '
"Sorry Sir, Indians are not welcome at this hotel" was the reply from the receptionist!
She could not even be bothered to use the lie 'sorry we are full! '
The guys he wanted to book in were upper middle class, well travelled Indians, with good jobs, company expense accounts and credit cards.
I wonder how many Pattaya hotels have a blanket ban on visitors from 'certain' countries!
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Mystery77; 1197552]Yes $800 for the hotel or apartment.
I want to get a good spot & good place as I mentioned. Specific zone radius or recommended apartments or hotels would be appreciated.
Close to good looking healthy women & entertainments. I don't want to have to worry about walking or driving 10 miles back & forth if ultimately
Don't need to. Any ideas or links?
Cheers[/QUOTE]Here you go Mystery. Knock yourself out. But I have to tell you that $800 is a lot of fucking money in these parts. It will be hard to find something that costs that much. That is damn near half of my rent for the entire year.
[url]http://www.soidb.com/en/pattaya/stay/apartment/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1197586]Another one of those. Go back to your trailer park and eat some squirrel meat head.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Starchildxxx;1197612]My " trailer park " is with USA ARMY. And soldiers have better things to " eat " than your Family's genealogy.[/QUOTE]What the fuck are you two guys fighting about anyway?
Can't we all just get along? :)
[QUOTE=Mystery77; 1197326]Hey fella's I've been in & out of Phuket mostly 3 trips many months. I'm looking to play & pay in BKK & Pattaya.
Any recommendations on where to stay, in either BKK or Pattaya (I want to plant in one place for a month) for very easy access to plenty of women?
Strippers, clubs, good bar girls, discos, students.
Apartment or hotel. Budget on the month stay I want to keep around $800[/QUOTE]Cheapest would be condos typically the ones in which the locals stay.
Pattaya: 3 to 4, 000 baht a month in and around soi buakaow and south Pattaya road.
BKK: 4 to 5, 000 baht a month for starters a bit deeper in the sois off sukhumvit, shop house types.
BKK better to find students.
Pattaya for the rest
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1197623]Racism. NOT only the clubs and bars.
I am currently in Pattaya and staying at a nice. 4 Star, English owned mid range Hotel. (around 2, 000 Baht / night.)
I am an Indian, very well travelled, including to LOS too.
I have faced discrimination in lot of parts of world, UK, USA, Germany, Netherland, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, China, Japan, I can name some more countries too.
I am not referring to discrimination in mongering activities but in all speheres, bus queue, Railway stations, airports, restaurants, Tiity bars, etc.
I guess may be some of my bretheren have created a bad name and image.
Having said that, after staying few days or after a meal, or a visit to a Mongering Place, the behaviour towards me has changed, not that I do anything extra, but just normal behaviour.
I still have not figured out, why is the discrimination and after a visit why do not such establishments shun me, rather they welcome me.
Each to his own!
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1197623]Racism. NOT only the clubs and bars.
Everything was good until reception asked him the nationality of the guests. He told them 'They are Indian! '
"Sorry Sir, Indians are not welcome at this hotel" was the reply from the receptionist!
She could not even be bothered to use the lie 'sorry we are full! '
The guys he wanted to book in were upper middle class, well travelled Indians, with good jobs, company expense accounts and credit cards.
Hotman.[/QUOTE]It's almost refreshing in a way, your associates inconvenience (and hurt feelings) notwithstanding. They could easily lie and make up a reason but no."This is how we see these people, this has been our experience and its our hotel and we just say no" No politically correct crap here weighing everybody down...
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1197647]What the fuck are you two guys fighting about anyway?
Can't we all just get along? .[/QUOTE]Daddy07,
I think Luvpuss is back home in Southern Cal, and he is starting to have some Thailand puss withdraw?
I had squirrel head before it is damn good cooked in a clay pot.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1197744]Daddy07,
I think Luvpuss is back home in Southern Cal, and he is starting to have some Thailand puss withdraw?
I had squirrel head before it is damn good cooked in a clay pot.
LBM[/QUOTE]You are right about Thailand. Won't be in a good mood till I arrive in 4 weeks.
Squirrel is not bad. I think Possum is decent. Nutria isn't bad either.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1197623]Everything was good until reception asked him the nationality of the guests. He told them 'They are Indian! '
"Sorry Sir, Indians are not welcome at this hotel" was the reply from the receptionist!
She could not even be bothered to use the lie 'sorry we are full! '
The guys he wanted to book in were upper middle class, well travelled Indians, with good jobs, company expense accounts and credit cards.
I wonder how many Pattaya hotels have a blanket ban on visitors from 'certain' countries!
Hotman.[/QUOTE]You might want to consider staying at the Marriott Hotels in Thailand. I have personally seen entire lots of American Blacks and Indians treated exceptionally well in all of the Marriotts I have stayed at (Bangkok, Phuket, and Pattaya). In each case, the blacks / indians were well presented well educated and civil bunch. One black I talked to is a physician from North Carolina and actually owned stock in Marriott. When I doubted him. He logged into an online account (Scott Trade?) and pulled it up on his laptop. Said he only stays at Marriott hotels when he visits Thailand. I like Marriott also (very safe / secure). But I don't like their costs / prices.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1197629]Here you go Mystery. Knock yourself out. But I have to tell you that $800 is a lot of fucking money in these parts. It will be hard to find something that costs that much. That is damn near half of my rent for the entire year.
[url]http://www.soidb.com/en/pattaya/stay/apartment/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]I've had a hell of a time trying to find a source for apartments in both Pattaya and Bangkok. I stayed in one my work put me up in for around 13000 baht per month back in 04, but looking at this site I realize even that was a ripoff. This one piece of info will likely cut my next trips costs nearly in half! Mr. Enternational, you are the sh*t!
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1197707]They could easily lie and make up a reason but no."This is how we see these people, this has been our experience and its our hotel and we just say no" No politically correct crap here weighing everybody down.[/QUOTE]I've asked a Thai hotel staff why she refused indians and her candid response was "Because they are noisy, rude and smell bad".
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1198584]I've asked a Thai hotel staff why she refused indians and her candid response was "Because they are noisy, rude and smell bad".[/QUOTE]The Thai girls will add that they are also cheap.
I will admit that the Indians I have met have an odor. It is only because of the curry. They probably think I stink also. All of the other accusations about them I have not witnessed. They have always behaved well and are in fact pretty quiet from my observation.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1198619]The Thai girls will add that they are also cheap.
I will admit that the Indians I have met have an odor. It is only because of the curry. They probably think I stink also. All of the other accusations about them I have not witnessed. They have always behaved well and are in fact pretty quiet from my observation.[/QUOTE]This topic I remember a few years ago was discussed for some period. Personally I don't have too much of a problem with them except as indicated many of them in general do smell. I use to work with a guy that was Indian but raised in England and spoke with a English accent. I use to kid him that he was a Indian that thought his shit didn't smell but after a period of working with him on hot days in a close environment I nearly passed out but before I did I told him " a fellas you are killing me have you ever consider using deoderant " he told me and it wasn't the Curry! That it was against his religion." I told him you think your shit don't smell because you are from England but yet you can see no one is as nice as me to work with you! You notice everyone is outside looking in? I told him I would be glad to open one of these suitcases and get you some?"
I told him I'm serious because I have never smell anything so strong and if he don't consider it I'm going back to my old job and that is dumping shit from the aircrafts instead of working with you.
I don't think it is the curry?
LBM
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1198619]The Thai girls will add that they are also cheap.
I will admit that the Indians I have met have an odor. It is only because of the curry. They probably think I stink also. All of the other accusations about them I have not witnessed. They have always behaved well and are in fact pretty quiet from my observation.[/QUOTE]Generalities are just that but EVERY Indian I've ever worked with (and there have been dozens over the years) could squeeze Lincolns face off of a penny. That is how 'frugal' they are in my opinion but that really has no effect on a hotel stay where the rates are established so to turn them away doesn't really make sense to me.
Hygiene differs from different cultures however and It seems that daily bathing (at a minimum) and a daily dose of deodorant is more of a western contrivance and not one the rest of the world has entirely embraced including Indians. As Thai ladies are very conscience of hygiene it is no secret why the chemistry between these two cultures is strained from a P4P perspective and I think its true of other non-western cultures, that act similarly, as well with respect to P4P.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1198619]They probably think I stink also. All of the other accusations about them I have not witnessed. They have always behaved well and are in fact pretty quiet from my observation.[/QUOTE]I've actually stayed in hotels where groups of indians stay also, and I agree that they are noisy. They like to bang doors, talk in the hallways, and play music loudly. Maybe this is just something they do when in groups?
Anyhow, as another poster mentioned, I like how Thais are so blunt about discriminating against certain types. It's pretty funny to watch door people say "members only club" when middle easterners or south asians approach a gogo and then watch farang and northern asians let inside right in front of their noses. AMAZING THAILAND!!!
I'm a regular at New Orleans restaurant which is right across from the Penthouse. I love the ribs there for 500 baht all you can eat (although I only get the half rack for 395 these days). I have a bunch of friends in town and we went there last night. All of a sudden the waitress comes over and says drinks are on the house. I thought it was because we come there so much. Then a guy comes over and says I'm Jeffrey they new owner. He was really cool, from Perth, Australia. He opened up the bar to us for the rest of the time we were there. He also went to get a liter of Jack, sat it in the middle of the table and said have at it. He made the staff bring us glasses of ice and cokes, although I take mine neat or with just ice. Check his place out. [url]http://pattayarestaurants.net/cafe-new-orleans/[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1198826]All of a sudden the waitress comes over and says drinks are on the house. [/url][/QUOTE]Mr. E,
They are damn lucky he they did not say that with Coolie High and I in the restaurant; they would have took a serious loss for sure. We drank together; you know.
Besides that, has the quality of food changed with the new owner? Or is it the same?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1197565]Lots of inexpensive guesthouses (500 to 1000+ baht a night) around Soi Buakhao, especially near the intersections with Soi Diana, Soi Leng Kee, Soi LK Metro, and Soi Chaiyapoom.
There are beer bars, go-go bars, massage shops, etc, all around this area. You can catch a "baht bus" to Walking Street for 10 baht, too. A motorcycle taxi will take you to Soi 6 for 40 baht.
For online resources, see:
[url]http://www.lkmetropattaya.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.barspattaya.com/soi-buakhao.html[/url]
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader2007/reader3856.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.pattaya-discover.com/soi-buakhao.html[/url]
Just do a few "google" searches and you'll have more pussy finding information than Brad Pitt on holiday![/QUOTE]Very interesting indeed. Thanks for that. On your opinion, would you rather chill in Bangkok or Pattaya? If you could only pick one zone lets say for a couple weeks month.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1197629]Here you go Mystery. Knock yourself out. But I have to tell you that $800 is a lot of fucking money in these parts. It will be hard to find something that costs that much. That is damn near half of my rent for the entire year.
[url]http://www.soidb.com/en/pattaya/stay/apartment/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]Nice. Lots of selection on the link, I think it will be pretty easy now to select a place to stay. Would you recommend a place particularly? On $800 or less a month apartment including bills. Little quality little space.
Great link. Though if you have experience point in right direction. As you know some place you pay $30 & you get a palace. Another for the same rates $30 & you're in a nightmare =)
[QUOTE=Free Kick; 1197673]Cheapest would be condos typically the ones in which the locals stay.
Pattaya: 3 to 4, 000 baht a month in and around soi buakaow and south Pattaya road.
BKK: 4 to 5, 000 baht a month for starters a bit deeper in the sois off sukhumvit, shop house types.
BKK better to find students.
Pattaya for the rest[/QUOTE]Hey, have you had many good interactions with the students? This interests me as I feel students are just as horny, though a little clearer.
What do you feel are the keys to this scene. I feel you got some experience in this area, I hope I'm guessing correct.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Mystery77;1199122]Very interesting indeed. Thanks for that. On your opinion, would you rather chill in Bangkok or Pattaya? If you could only pick one zone lets say for a couple weeks month.[/QUOTE]Overall, Pattaya is cheaper (room, food, pussy) , and easier to live in than Bangkok. And definitely so, if your primary goal is mongering.
Bangkok is a mega-city with a lot to do if you are so inclined, plus good mongering.
Pattaya women are a little more relaxed than the ones in Bangkok. They like to have a fun time.
I like both, and they are only 1. 5 hours apart by fast taxi.
Guys, I'm heading out to Pattaya for mid-October. Looking forward to meeting and picking up a few nice girls, but in particular I am hoping to find a girl who can give a good GFE experience for a few days. If anyone has a recommendation that they can pass on by pm then I would be very grateful. I appreciate that it's lots to do with chemistry etc, but I made a similar request a year or so ago and one member was good enough to introduce me to a delightful young lady, who has since moved on. Personal recommendations are often the best. Thanks in anticipation.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1198663]Anyhow, as another poster mentioned, I like how Thais are so blunt about discriminating against certain types. It's pretty funny to watch door people say "members only club" when middle easterners or south asians approach a gogo and then watch farang and northern asians let inside right in front of their noses. AMAZING THAILAND!!![/QUOTE]Last night when I was entering Mixx Disco there was a group of 4 Indian guys who they refused to let in. The guys kept asking why they could not go in. The security people were telling them to just go away.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1199441]Guys, I'm heading out to Pattaya for mid-October. Looking forward to meeting and picking up a few nice girls, but in particular I am hoping to find a girl who can give a good GFE experience for a few days. If anyone has a recommendation that they can pass on by pm then I would be very grateful. I appreciate that it's lots to do with chemistry etc, but I made a similar request a year or so ago and one member was good enough to introduce me to a delightful young lady, who has since moved on. Personal recommendations are often the best. Thanks in anticipation.[/QUOTE]What is your definition of GFE?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1199519]What is your definition of GFE?[/QUOTE]GFE (Girlfriend experience) or otherwise known as I will kill you with tenderness, sex, love as long as you give me money, buy presents is what every monger is looking for.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1197707]It's almost refreshing in a way, your associates inconvenience (and hurt feelings) notwithstanding. They could easily lie and make up a reason but no."This is how we see these people, this has been our experience and its our hotel and we just say no" No politically correct crap here weighing everybody down.[/QUOTE]"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up shit by the clean end."
'bare
Having suffered on numerous holidays in 'Brit-Abroad' resorts, a few weeks with these noisy, rude, smelly and frugal Indians would be a delight.
Pattaya is full of arseholes from all over the globe.
Were you to keep a tally over the course of a month of every arsehole you met, I doubt the Indians would be top of the list.
That is unless your definition of an arsehole is 'an Indian'.
All sex tourists are equal, but some are more equal than others.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1199519]What is your definition of GFE?[/QUOTE]In my case, probably a semi-pro girl, not too hardened by working in Pattaya, mid- to late- 20s perhaps, affectionate rather than overtly sexual. Willing to spend a couple of evenings / nights with me and perhaps some daytime fun.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1199727]In my case, probably a semi-pro girl, not too hardened by working in Pattaya, mid- to late- 20s perhaps, affectionate rather than overtly sexual. Willing to spend a couple of evenings / nights with me and perhaps some daytime fun.[/QUOTE]Any contact details gratefully received.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1199727]In my case, probably a semi-pro girl, not too hardened by working in Pattaya, mid- to late- 20s perhaps, affectionate rather than overtly sexual. Willing to spend a couple of evenings / nights with me and perhaps some daytime fun.[/QUOTE]That doesn't describe much. Do you want Anal? Bareback with cum in pussy?
[QUOTE=Chachi420; 1199664].
All sex tourists are equal[/QUOTE]Not from a Thai's perspective!
Sorry to be a little off topic, but I am trying to figure out how to get from Pattaya to BKK airport early in the morning. My flight is at 8:15 am from BKK. The bell bus won't make it on time. And taxis will probably try to rip me off this early.
Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1199761]Not from a Thai's perspective![/QUOTE]There are not many posts on this forum from 'a Thai's perspective'.
I have met and spent time with some wonderful Thai people, who have been warm and decent to myself.
Let's not fall into the trap of generalising about yet another race.
If this was ' the Thai perspective' why would myself and others like me be planning yet another trip to LOS?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1199746]That doesn't describe much. Do you want Anal? Bareback with cum in pussy?[/QUOTE]This wasn't really intended as a discussion. If anyone can pass on contact details of a young lady they have had a good time with, that would be great. If not, no worries.
[QUOTE=Chachi420;1199793]There are not many posts on this forum from 'a Thai's perspective'. I have met and spent time with some wonderful Thai people, who have been warm and decent to myself.[/QUOTE]I'll drink to that. I just met one the other day. A lady from Udon Thani. I met her while she was working at Big C. She put on a big smile as I passed so I doubled back and was able to make a date with her. She is 28 but I thought she was 19. With her broken English and my even more broken Thai we are able to communicate okay.
We went to the movies last night in her car. I had to make her get something from the snack bar. She was steadily feeding me popcorn and catering to me. Before we left out we forgot to get the parking ticket validated. The lady said we would have to pay 60 baht. She had a fit. I tried to pass her 60 baht to give to the lady but she absolutely refused to give the money. And being the Cheap Charlie that I am, I was like it is only 60 baht. But she ranted on about how you don't have to pay for parking at other malls and at Big C. I told her well this is not those places. Meanwhile there were about 10 cars behind us waiting to get out. That is the only way I got her to pass the money over. After that she promised to give me the money back when we got back to her room. She did not even want me to take her to Subway for lunch today saying it was too expensive and how she only uses 30 baht / day to eat.
She is the exact opposite of what farang say about Thai women and a farang's money. Now she just called me and insisted on driving me to the airport at 2 a.m. (when she has to be at work at 8 a.m.) so I would not have to pay a taxi. What the hell?
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1199794]This wasn't really intended as a discussion. If anyone can pass on contact details of a young lady they have had a good time with, that would be great. If not, no worries.[/QUOTE]You are the one that asked for the GFE. There are many descriptions of that, many of which are include in my questions for you. If you just want a girl to spend some time with, say so.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1198655]Hygiene differs from different cultures however and It seems that daily bathing (at a minimum) and a daily dose of deodorant is more of a western contrivance and not one the rest of the world has entirely embraced including Indians. As Thai ladies are very conscience of hygiene it is no secret why the chemistry between these two cultures is strained from a P4P perspective and I think its true of other non-western cultures, that act similarly, as well with respect to P4P.[/QUOTE]Living in hot and Humid (in many places) India, people bath at least once a day. But in coastal states like Kerala and Goa most people bath once in the morning and once in the evening. Use of colognes and deodorant is common among the educated urban population and white collar workers. But in most cases people apply different types of oils on their hair and body after bath. Oils like Mustard oil and many herbal oils have strong odors that are not liked my many, especially when one is new to them. In most cases it is the smell of these oils that is perceived as lack of hygiene.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1199519]What is your definition of GFE?[/QUOTE]Hmmmm. The TRUE girlfriend experience is that she busts your chops every time you look at another girl and then makes you sleep alone on the couch. The wife experience is even worse. Much worse.
That's why I monger!
Pogo
[QUOTE=Magic Moments;1199849]Living in hot and Humid (in many places) India, people bath at least once a day. But in coastal states like Kerala and Goa most people bath once in the morning and once in the evening. Use of colognes and deodorant is common among the educated urban population and white collar workers. But in most cases people apply different types of oils on their hair and body after bath. Oils like Mustard oil and many herbal oils have strong odors that are not liked my many, especially when one is new to them. In most cases it is the smell of these oils that is perceived as lack of hygiene.[/QUOTE]I have had traditional massages in India where they use medicinal oil. The smell is very strong and cannot be get rid off even after a few days.
However I do not think the discrimination is because of smell. Maybe it was true long time ago but nowadays most people use some cologne. I think that thai people consider themselves socially to be superior than Indians.
There are smelly, rude, unshaven, drunk people irrespective of which country they come from. It is a shame that even some hotels will not book a room if Indian Passport holder.
Clubs maybe doing this because they consider Indians are thrifty and they cannot make money. Unfortunately they get away with this because there are lots of tourists coming to Thailand and they are never short of customers.
This would not work in many other countries businesswise.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1198655]Generalities are just that but EVERY Indian I've ever worked with (and there have been dozens over the years) could squeeze Lincolns face off of a penny. That is how 'frugal' they are in my opinion but that really has no effect on a hotel stay where the rates are established so to turn them away doesn't really make sense to me.
Hygiene differs from different cultures however and It seems that daily bathing (at a minimum) and a daily dose of deodorant is more of a western contrivance and not one the rest of the world has entirely embraced including Indians. As Thai ladies are very conscience of hygiene it is no secret why the chemistry between these two cultures is strained from a P4P perspective and I think its true of other non-western cultures, that act similarly, as well with respect to P4P.[/QUOTE]Most Thais and other East Asians also think that whites smell bad. The fact is that whites have more considerably apocrine sweat glands than East Asians (and blacks still more I believe.)
[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1199863]Hmmmm. The TRUE girlfriend experience is that she busts your chops every time you look at another girl and then makes you sleep alone on the couch. The wife experience is even worse. Much worse.
That's why I monger!
Pogo[/QUOTE]Funny, but very true.
[QUOTE=Start123; 1199787]Sorry to be a little off topic, but I am trying to figure out how to get from Pattaya to BKK airport early in the morning. My flight is at 8:15 am from BKK. The bell bus won't make it on time. And taxis will probably try to rip me off this early.
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]This might be too late for you, but I would just go to one of the many small KIOSKS around Pattaya the day BEFORE you're to leave and set up a pick-up at your hotel (they do it any ways). With the regular going rates (1, 000B for a taxi. 1,200B for a car, tolls INCLUDED). Make sure to leave just a partial down payment (30-50%). If you get any resistance check a few more KIOSKS, you might bump it an extra 100B or so if resistence seems universal.
Quite a few drivers are just looking to get back to Bangkok (with a PAYING CUSTOMER) after already driven somebody down the night before. They'd be happy to get an early jump on their return.
It seems to me there'd be no reason not to get the regular rate. Let us know what happens.
[QUOTE=IlleagleFun;1199952]I would just go to one of the many small KIOSKS around Pattaya the day BEFORE you're to leave and set up a pick-up at your hotel (they do it any ways). With the regular going rates (1, 000B for a taxi. 1,200B for a car, tolls INCLUDED).[/QUOTE]This worked for me in April for a 5AM pickup, but have a backup plan if there's a problem in the morning, just in case. The day before my flight the lady I spent a few nights with called to arrange a taxi for the next morning, but in the morning the taxi actually went to another hotel. When I wasn't there the driver called my lady's phone (we spent the night together again) and we got him directed to the right place, but if he hadn't shown up I would have had to ask the lobby for a taxi at short notice. That probably would have been more expensive than the 1, 000 Baht I paid.
Angeles is to Philippines? And Bangkok is Manila?
I've been to Phils and was planning on going to Thailand the first time this October.
Also, I won't mind the rain, but will there won't be a noticeable drop in quality, quantity due to rain?
Please go easy this is my first post ever. And if there is a link or archive I should being reading instead of posting, I wouldn't mind g3etting directed there to avoid wasting peoples time. Thanks for reading.
PS my buddy's in his early 20's handsome I suppose, and thinks he's going to get it all for free. I strongly think that hes full of it. He did well in the Philippines, ill admit, but I think itll be a very different scene in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Member #2041; 688343]
And no, going LT with bar girls who live at the bars is what YOU'RE talking about, not what WE'RE talking about. In my experience, freelancers generally provide better service than bar girls. Be it ST, or LT. I generally pay the freelancers 1200-1500 for LT in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]2041, Hope you don't mean freelancers hanging out on Beach Road? Man I would'nt fuck those yaba skanks with your dick!
Five Hundred baht for a junkie is too much. Most of them, IMO, look like crap.
There is some benefit in getting a working beer bar girl. You know where she will be the next day and she knows you know,
so your shit won't get touched and you can complain to mamasan about bad service. Go-go bar girls have to show you the package before you take it out, so that also is a benefit in knowing you won't be subjected to hidden guts, C section scars and off putting tattoos. I like being able to pick a hot body off the stage.
[QUOTE=Gfeyup; 1200287]Angeles is to Philippines? And Bangkok is Manila?
I've been to Phils and was planning on going to Thailand the first time this October.
Also, I won't mind the rain, but will there won't be a noticeable drop in quality, quantity due to rain?
Please go easy this is my first post ever. And if there is a link or archive I should being reading instead of posting, I wouldn't mind g3etting directed there to avoid wasting peoples time. Thanks for reading.
PS my buddy's in his early 20's handsome I suppose, and thinks he's going to get it all for free. I strongly think that hes full of it. He did well in the Philippines, ill admit, but I think itll be a very different scene in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Pinays are so desperate to snag a man, I can see them giving it up for free now and then, esp to a handsome young guy. But you didn't mention if they were bar girls on reg girls.
Patt so expensive, I can't see him getting action for free too many times when a woman obviously is sorrounded by paying farang. As far as quality, that depends on your taste in women. My 5 is your 10? I have found myself walking quite far and looking in beach Road and second Road beer bars for my type, (cute, big tit, decent ass, long hair) and passing much talent by.
Trust me on this though, you will have fun!
[QUOTE=Gfeyup; 1200287]Angeles is to Philippines? And Bangkok is Manila?
I've been to Phils and was planning on going to Thailand the first time this October.
Also, I won't mind the rain, but will there won't be a noticeable drop in quality, quantity due to rain?
Please go easy this is my first post ever. And if there is a link or archive I should being reading instead of posting, I wouldn't mind g3etting directed there to avoid wasting peoples time. Thanks for reading.
PS my buddy's in his early 20's handsome I suppose, and thinks he's going to get it all for free. I strongly think that hes full of it. He did well in the Philippines, ill admit, but I think itll be a very different scene in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Fuck dude. It's easy to bang girls for free in the PI. Yet I still choose to give them money because I feel bad. Most of the ones giving it up for free are really nice people and most people in the PI have a really hard life. Tell your friend not to be a complete prick and share some of his money to these girls that deserve it!
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1200328]Patt so expensive, I can't see him getting action for free too many times when a woman obviously is sorrounded by paying farang.[/QUOTE]I agree. Girls aren't giving it up for free as easily as they did say. 7 years ago. I highly doubt anything young and pretty would do so in today's Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1200326]2041, Hope you don't mean freelancers hanging out on Beach Road? Man I would'nt fuck those yaba skanks with your dick!
I fuck them all the time. Their attitude and service is better than the GoGo's from my experience.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1200328]Pinays are so desperate to snag a man, I can see them giving it up for free now and then, esp to a handsome young guy. But you didn't mention if they were bar girls on reg girls.
Patt so expensive, I can't see him getting action for free too many times when a woman obviously is sorrounded by paying farang. As far as quality, that depends on your taste in women. My 5 is your 10? I have found myself walking quite far and looking in beach Road and second Road beer bars for my type, (cute, big tit, decent ass, long hair) and passing much talent by.
Trust me on this though, you will have fun![/QUOTE]Thanks, I appreciate the responses, and I'm glad to know the rain doesn't dampen the whole scene too much.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1200412]
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1200326]2041, Hope you don't mean freelancers hanging out on Beach Road? Man I would'nt fuck those yaba skanks with your dick!
I fuck them all the time. Their attitude and service is better than the GoGo's from my experience.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%
Can anyone recommend a very thin condom in Patt pharmacys? Am by no means packing heat, so Magnums won't do.
Usually bareback with my ever ready steady, but will certainly ditch her a few times. In Patt next week, any one wish to swap.
Stories, just PM.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1201079]Can anyone recommend a very thin condom in Patt pharmacys?[/QUOTE]Try Durex Love. The box is red. The grocery store is much cheaper than the pharmacy.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1201079]Can anyone recommend a very thin condom in Patt pharmacys? Am by no means packing heat, so Magnums won't do.
Usually bareback with my ever ready steady, but will certainly ditch her a few times. In Patt next week, any one wish to swap.
Stories, just PM.[/QUOTE]Even with that, I would not use the Asian condoms. They seem to be cheaply made and definitely smaller.
Bring your own. Jackoff with a few different kinds to see which one you like best and want to bring with you.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1201189]Even with that, I would not use the Asian condoms. They seem to be cheaply made and definitely smaller.
Bring your own. Jackoff with a few different kinds to see which one you like best and want to bring with you.[/QUOTE]Gents, save yourself the pain and get Sagami 0. 02.
I never leave home without them now. It's super thin 0. 02mm and you will thing you're bare backing. Freaks the girls out and you will never BBFS again. I buy mine online shipped from Japan to US but seen them in Thailand at least in Bangkok.
Cheers
Hello everyone,
First time poster, long time lurker. I am pretty knowledgeable about my local scene here in the US but I've never been to LOS. I actually learned about P4P when reading forums like these about LOS a few years ago. I once planned a trip a while back but I had a couple of setbacks here in the States that prevented me from actually making the trip. I totally missed out on a great opportunity back then because that's when things seemed to be at their peak and the exchange rate was $1 = 40 baht. Now it's around $1 = 30 baht, so it seems like prices have effectively increased 25% since then.
A little about myself, I am an Asian-American in my upper 20s. I am pretty athletic and fit. I have an easygoing attitude and I generally get along with most people as long as they're not complete assholes. I'm fluent in English, semi-fluent in Mandarin Chinese (doubtful that would help me out in Thailand though) , and I'm trying to learn as much Thai as I can before my trip. I suppose that knowing Chinese helps a little for learning Thai because it's also a tonal language and the sentence structure for both languages are simpler than it is for English. I've read reports from others saying that they had a great time even though they speak zero Thai so I'm not too worried. I just think I'll have a better time if I take some time to learn the language. A big part of it for me is not just learning how to speak the language but also to be able to understand. I would rather that the girls assume I don't understand Thai at all so they can freely express themselves and maybe I'll be able to pick up on what they're saying (in case they're saying something they don't want me to know about).
Enough now with the rambling, my trip is scheduled for Nov 23-Dec 10. I would've preferred to go during low season but was too busy with work. I contemplated waiting until the next low season but decided that I didn't have the patience to wait. I've already put off one trip before and missed out so I won't make that same mistake again. Besides, I can always try to make another trip this summer if I plan well right? Anyways, took the plunge and bought the plane ticket last month to commit myself. Now I am researching and preparing for my trip and to be honest it has been quite an overwhelming but exciting task.
I've got my passport ready and updated my vaccinations. I'm covered for Hep A, Hep B, Flu, Polio, Measles, and Typhoid. I know to purchase condoms from home since they are what I'm familiar with. I still need to purchase a Thai-English Dictionary. Can anyone recommend an inexpensive ($100 or less) electronic dictionary or should I just buy a paperback dictionary? I already have a well recommended book, 'Thai for lovers' which seems to have a lot of useful phrases. I still need to figure out how to access cash during my stay. I would like to be able to use my debit card from Wells Fargo but I don't want to have to pay fees from my bank. I think I read somewhere that PayPal debit cards were good and so were Visa debit cards (when excluding the initial fees). Can anyone provide some guidance?
I will have 16 days on the ground. I plan to spend the fist 3 in Bangkok and the rest in Pattaya. In Bangkok I'm staying at the Majestic Grande and I still have to make reservations in Pattaya. I want to try out 2-3 hotels in Pattaya so I can compare them but I'm reluctant to reserve ahead of time because I don't want to have to pay in advance. I'm hoping to be able to have the freedom to walk into any hotel to check-in but that may be wishful thinking considering that this is high season. Would you guys recommend that I make solid reservations for my time in Pattaya since it will be during high season? My research has narrowed down the Vault, the Whitehouse Condotel, and the Penthouse. The Vault is well recommended by experienced mongers and I emailed the owner, Mike, to check on the rates for high season. They seem reasonable and the owner seemed pretty cool. I don't know much about the Whitehouse Condotel but I've seen it recommended a few times and after checking out the website I like how the room and especially the bathroom look. I've read that the Penthouse can be a bit wild and in your face in the lower level rooms but I don't mind. I'm a fairly young guy looking to have a good time while holiday so that kind of atmosphere actually seems pretty attractive to me. I'm very interested in having a private in-room hot tub that can fit 2-3. I think the penthouse rooms at the Vault may have that available but I'm not sure about the other hotels. Anyone have any recommendations for other GF hotels that would have this feature? I'm trying to keep it to $150 (4500 baht) max per day for a hotel.
I'm budgeting $300 (9, 000 baht) a day to cover everything: hotel, food, girls, transportation, entertainment, pharmacy, etc. It's doubtful that I will spend that much everyday especially since I don't smoke or drink. I would just rather have the money and not need it than need it and not have it. Besides, I've waited years for this and I feel like I need to treat myself. No need for lectures, I already know that I shouldn't overpay because it will ruin things for others. I myself plan on making more trips in the future so I wouldn't want to spoil things for myself either. I expect that since I look Asian I will probably always get quoted higher end prices and will have to use my charm to negotiate down. I will research more about rates when closer to my departure since the current rates are low season rates.
My preparation might seem a little over the top, and for a first post I admit this is a little bit long. I'm just very excited about my cherry trip and I want to make sure I have a good time without getting ripped off. If anyone wants to add anything or provide advice I would really appreciate it. Like other newbies I have lots and lots of questions. I haven't even gotten into the activities that I would like to do once I get there but that will have to wait until another time since I'm getting tired now. Thank you in advance for any information provided.
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]. I've read that the Penthouse can be a bit wild and in your face in the lower level rooms but I don't mind. I'm a fairly young guy looking to have a good time while holiday so that kind of atmosphere actually seems pretty attractive to me. I'm very interested in having a private in-room hot tub that can fit 2-3.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a great plan and we look forward to seeing you here at some point during your trip. Quite a few suites here have jacuzzis that meet your requirement.
All the Best.
AB
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]I'm fluent in English, semi-fluent in Mandarin Chinese (doubtful that would help me out in Thailand though) , and I'm trying to learn as much Thai as I can before my trip. I suppose that knowing Chinese helps a little for learning Thai because it's also a tonal language and the sentence structure for both languages are simpler than it is for English. I've read reports from others saying that they had a great time even though they speak zero Thai so I'm not too worried. I just think I'll have a better time if I take some time to learn the language. I still need to purchase a Thai-English Dictionary.[/QUOTE]Dictionary? Wasted luggage space. I guarantee you will never pick it up. Forget all of that. Just bring money. But if you insist, these are free: [url]http://thai-language.com/id/589875[/url] [url]http://www.learningthai.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]Enough now with the rambling, my trip is scheduled for Nov 23-Dec 10. I would've preferred to go during low season but was too busy with work. I contemplated waiting until the next low season but decided that I didn't have the patience to wait.[/QUOTE]There is no such thing as low season. Pick any day of the 365 and there will always be thousands more pussies than you could ever hope to stick your dick in.
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]I will have 16 days on the ground. I plan to spend the fist 3 in Bangkok and the rest in Pattaya. In Bangkok I'm staying at the Majestic Grande and I still have to make reservations in Pattaya. I want to try out 2-3 hotels in Pattaya so I can compare them but I'm reluctant to reserve ahead of time because I don't want to have to pay in advance. I'm trying to keep it to $150 (4500 baht) max per day for a hotel.[/QUOTE]3 BKK. 13 Pats. Wise plan. There is no need to pay in advance. Just tell them you will pay when you arrive. $150 / day is an ungodly amount of money for a hotel. You are not in San Francisco. You are in Pattaya. PM me and I will give you a few suggestions for half that price or less.
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]I'm budgeting $300 (9, 000 baht) a day to cover everything: hotel, food, girls, transportation, entertainment, pharmacy, etc.[/QUOTE]That is more than enough and it will cover shopping as well.
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout; 1201285]Hello, everyone,
First time poster, long time lurker. My preparation might seem a little over the top, and for a first post I admit this is a little bit long. I'm just very excited about my cherry trip and I want to make sure I have a good time without getting ripped off. If anyone wants to add anything or provide advice I would really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Hi Iwalkitout.
A bit of information for you. (Perhaps other mongers will add more answers to your questions.)
If you want to stay at a specific hotel then you should make a reservation. But, even in high season you will always be able to find a vacancy somewhere!
Whitehouse Condotel. A well run, mid range hotel in a good location. The owner is a Brit. No problems to take one girl back but if you take 2 back together then they require an extra payment.
Do not worry about speaking Thai too much. OK, a little will help you but many mongers do very well with NO Thai language skills.
If you want a Thai / English dictionary then an electronic or paperback one can be bought there for MUCH less than outside of Thailand. I think that paperback ones are available from around 200 Baht.
Re cash. I just take US$ or Euro and change as and when required. Most hotel rooms have a safe so you can keep your cash there. You will get a much better exchange rate in Thailand than outside!
5th December is the Kings birthday and many places 'may' be closed. But don't worry, there is ALLWAYS a playmate or two available EVERY day!
It looks like you have done your groundwork so just relax and enjoy. (I do!)
Hotman.
Good report and well prepared for your trip it looks like. I will be in Bangkok and Pattaya the same time as you. Our paths will cross in Pattaya, but at the end of your trip. The last 3 days for you. I have been to Pattaya and Bangkok a few times before. If you would like some advise or help with questions just send me a PM. I am not totally the guy to talk to, but I do have experience in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]I'm trying to learn as much Thai as I can before my trip. I suppose that knowing Chinese helps a little for learning Thai because it's also a tonal language and the sentence structure for both languages are simpler than it is for English. I've read reports from others saying that they had a great time even though they speak zero Thai so I'm not too worried. I just think I'll have a better time if I take some time to learn the language. A big part of it for me is not just learning how to speak the language but also to be able to understand. I would rather that the girls assume I don't understand Thai at all so they can freely express themselves and maybe I'll be able to pick up on what they're saying (in case they're saying something they don't want me to know about).[/QUOTE]A "sawadee khrap" and lots of smiles will go a long way. Even if you speak Thai, many girls will speak among each other in their local Isan dialect which is quite different.
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]I would like to be able to use my debit card from Wells Fargo but I don't want to have to pay fees from my bank. I think I read somewhere that PayPal debit cards were good and so were Visa debit cards (when excluding the initial fees). Can anyone provide some guidance?[/QUOTE]Debit cards and credit cards all work at the ATMs, but there is a 150 baht fee added for each transaction, plus any fees your local bank charges. It is best to reserve your credit card for hotel and restaurant payments and bring cash (dollars or euros) and use one of the many exchange offices you will see everywhere. As usual the exchange rate at the airport is not very good, so exchange only for a few thousand bath to cover your first expenses (like taxi, bus, train, perhaps some drink or food). Large bills get a better exchange rate. I brought 500 EURO bills and got quite a good rate.
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout; 1201285]I don't want to have to pay in advance.[/QUOTE][URL]http://booking.com[/URL]
Doesn't charge anything in advance and operates a very liberal cancellation policy. Consider taking a hotel in a bit quieter neigbourhood. Pattaya is rather small (at least the "interesting" part is) and everything is within easy baht-bus distance. You do not have to be in the middle of the monger area all the time. You will wear yourself out in a few days!
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]I expect that since I look Asian I will probably always get quoted higher end prices and will have to use my charm to negotiate down. I will research more about rates when closer to my departure since the current rates are low season rates.[/QUOTE]Unless you are Thai, you will always have to pay the "foreigner" prices, simply because you will meet only girls who deal with foreigners. Non-Thai will not get access to the "Thai only" prostitutes, so the "farang" price is the only price you will ever be quoted and then it is up to your negotiating skill. Mind however that if you bargain it down to the absolute minimum, you get a minimal service only too. A few hundred baht makes a world of difference for these girls and being a "cheap charlie" is considered very bad form in Thai society.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1201365]Dictionary? Wasted luggage space. I guarantee you will never pick it up. Forget all of that. Just bring money.[/I]
Now that I think about it you are probably correct. I probably wouldn't use the dictionary enough to justify the effort in purchasing it. The book that I already have seems to have most of the phrases that I think I would need. Good call.
[I]There is no such thing as low season. Pick any day of the 365 and there will always be thousands more pussies than you could ever hope to stick your dick in.[/I]
I do agree that the abundance of women in general makes any day of the year a good day to monger. I just wanted to go during low season because of the benefits associated with visiting that period (cheaper rates, less mongers, etc) but to be honest, I wouldn't turn down a trip to LOS no matter what time of the year it is. On the bright side, the weather is supposed to be better during high season so I'm sure that things will be in high gear by the time I arrive. I figure that jumping into the scene right in the thick of it isn't a bad way to start out my first trip.
Much respect for your advice Mr. Enternational. I appreciate your taking the time to help out a newbie like me.
[I]If you want to stay at a specific hotel then you should make a reservation. But, even in high season you will always be able to find a vacancy somewhere! [/I]
I'm thinking of starting out my first 4 days at the Penthouse, and ending the last 4 days at the Vault so I will probably need to make a reservations for these places. For the 5 days in between I think I'll just walk around and find a place.
[I]Re cash. I just take US$ or Euro and change as and when required. Most hotel rooms have a safe so you can keep your cash there. You will get a much better exchange rate in Thailand than outside! [/I]
I considered bringing cash but I'm a bit wary about carrying so much money at on me at once. I guess I'll just make a few transactions at the ATMs for large amounts and eat the fees in exchange for peace of mind. In the whole scheme of things I don't consider 150 baht to be too big a fee.
[I]5th December is the Kings birthday and many places 'may' be closed. But don't worry, there is ALLWAYS a playmate or two available EVERY day! [/I]
I read about this before and was expecting things to slow down on that day. By then I should know my way around a little and hopefully I'll have plenty of phone numbers to call.
[I]It looks like you have done your groundwork so just relax and enjoy. (I do!) [/I]
I intend to have the time of my life. Many thanks for the advice.
[QUOTE=Iwalkitout;1201285]I will have 16 days on the ground. I plan to spend the fist 3 in Bangkok and the rest in Pattaya. In Bangkok I'm staying at the Majestic Grande and I still have to make reservations in Pattaya. I want to try out 2-3 hotels in Pattaya so I can compare them but I'm reluctant to reserve ahead of time because I don't want to have to pay in advance. I'm hoping to be able to have the freedom to walk into any hotel to check-in but that may be wishful thinking considering that this is high season. Would you guys recommend that I make solid reservations for my time in Pattaya since it will be during high season? My research has narrowed down the Vault, the Whitehouse Condotel, and the Penthouse. The Vault is well recommended by experienced mongers and I emailed the owner, Mike, to check on the rates for high season. They seem reasonable and the owner seemed pretty cool. I don't know much about the Whitehouse Condotel but I've seen it recommended a few times and after checking out the website I like how the room and especially the bathroom look. I've read that the Penthouse can be a bit wild and in your face in the lower level rooms but I don't mind. I'm a fairly young guy looking to have a good time while holiday so that kind of atmosphere actually seems pretty attractive to me. I'm very interested in having a private in-room hot tub that can fit 2-3. I think the penthouse rooms at the Vault may have that available but I'm not sure about the other hotels. Anyone have any recommendations for other GF hotels that would have this feature? I'm trying to keep it to $150 (4500 baht) max per day for a hotel.[/QUOTE]Hotels - You can agonize too much about hotels (at least I do). I've stayed in the best in BKK and some of the cheapest in the rural areas, and it's not the quality of the decor that you remember. Go for a mid-price hotel and you'll be perfectly satisfied.
If you get a hotel off the regular baht-bus route it can be worth hiring a bike / scooter for a few days. Gives you a bit of mobility in the daytime, although can be a bit of a liability at night-time if you're into bar hopping.
13 days IMHO is quite a long time in Pattaya, considering there is f*** all else to do there. You might want to give yourself 3 days back in BKK at the end, especially if you have discovered some of the massage places like Mango, etc. There are no places quite like them in Pattaya.
Otherwise good planning, and I would certainly agree with bringing cash, keeping it in a safe and changing it as and when needed.
I agree with Mouse.
13 days in Pattaya is way too long.
Hi Iwalkitout!
Glad to hear you are dipping your toes into the Mongering waters of Thailand. Be prepared for the time of your life!
Personally I could spend MONTHS in Pattaya. But not staying IN Pattaya. Since you'll be there for a couple of weeks you may consider renting a condo on a weekly basis in Jomtien. It's a bit more quiet there and the beach is nice. And the action is a short 10 minute Baht Bus ride away.
And CHEAP! I hooked up a studio on Craigslist last year for 1000 BHT a night in a beautiful new building with balcony and sea view. The memories of banging the girls over the rail of that balcony still keep me warm at night.
Also if you get bored with Patts you an grab a girl and visit one of the gorgeous islands nearby for a few days. Koh Chang and Koh Samet are tropical paradises. But do bring a girl with as the pickings may be slim down there.
Have fun and remember to POST (for us unlucky SOBS stuck in the "real" world)!
Uncle V
In some ways 13 days in Pattaya can be a lot and in some ways 13 days is not enough. Heck, if ya got the time and ya got the bucks. Why not longer?
We all hear of folks who rent an apartment for a whole month. It all depends on what kind of person you are (your interests) and what you want to do. You always have Bangkok that you can go back to earlier if you wish and include some sight-seeing in between mongering. I enjoy the beach and make use of them in and around Pattaya. Since you DO have a lot of time, you might consider taking a day or two off for other activities.
One last note, you seem to have gone out of your way to do what is right and prepare properly. Good for you. May I suggest that once you've completed your preparation, don't stress out all the details, just go, relax, have a great time. Oh, and go with the flow. Everybody knows that you have good days (where EVERYTHING goes well with the girl your with) and you have bad days (where you pick up a dead fish who then gives you crap about the pay). Since you're lucky to have so many days, don't get down if a day does not go your way, but just try to make the overall visit one that you'll remember.
Was walking on the Beach Road in early evening when I found this young preggo alone standing on the side. Her english was really poor, it seems she just arrived from the farm. Asked her if she wanted to come with me and she nodded. Took her hand and brought her to my room. Found out she is just 18. Undressed her in the room and was happy about her nice body with the big boobs and the big dark nipples. We didn't talk much. Just brought her to the shower and washed her whole body. Told her then that it was her turn to wash me. She was very inexperienced to do that, maybe it was her first time. Anyway finished and went to bed where I started to warm her up with kissing and licking all her body. She got pretty wet and responded well in kissing. When I later let her suck my dick it seemed that was the first time for her. She was very awkward in doing that and didn't take it deep. When I finally came in her mouth she took him out immediately, turned away and split the cum. Not that nice experience for me. After some cleaning we went on for the next round. This time I entered her pussy after it was wet again. Quit nice fuck of this nice girl. She didn't insist in a condom. Went back to some 69 but she didn't really suck. So took the initiative and stand in front of her so that she could not avoid my dick. She sucked again, this time a little bit deeper. But all of the sudden she got up and went to the bathroom. When I looked after her I saw that she was vomiting. Another sign that I got probably a first timer. Took her back to bed and finished by fucking her. After that she was open for some posing, see my pics and enjoy. 3 hours later I let her go and gave her 500 Baht which seemed to make her happy. Good luck for her and her baby.
Hello, Fellow Punters:
I was just wondering if anyone had the experience of hiring a maid that of course did the usual household chores but also was expected to be of personal service to you when you felt the urge? I was wondering if anyone had or ever heard of an arrangement like this and if so, how much it cost. Thanks as always for everyones help.
Check craigslist for Thailand. One advertises there to do maid work in the nude in BKK. I am sure she probably does more.
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo; 1201810]Hello, Fellow Punters:
I was just wondering if anyone had the experience of hiring a maid that of course did the usual household chores but also was expected to be of personal service to you when you felt the urge? I was wondering if anyone had or ever heard of an arrangement like this and if so, how much it cost. Thanks as always for everyones help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sumart;1201768]Was walking on the Beach Road in early evening when I found this young preggo alone standing on the side. Her english was really poor, it seems she just arrived from the farm. Asked her if she wanted to come with me and she nodded. Took her hand and brought her to my room. Found out she is just 18. Undressed her in the room and was happy about her nice body with the big boobs and the big dark nipples. We didn't talk much. Just brought her to the shower and washed her whole body. Told her then that it was her turn to wash me. She was very inexperienced to do that, maybe it was her first time. Anyway finished and went to bed where I started to warm her up with kissing and licking all her body. She got pretty wet and responded well in kissing. When I later let her suck my dick it seemed that was the first time for her. She was very awkward in doing that and didn't take it deep. When I finally came in her mouth she took him out immediately, turned away and split the cum. Not that nice experience for me. After some cleaning we went on for the next round. This time I entered her pussy after it was wet again. Quit nice fuck of this nice girl. She didn't insist in a condom. Went back to some 69 but she didn't really suck. So took the initiative and stand in front of her so that she could not avoid my dick. She sucked again, this time a little bit deeper. But all of the sudden she got up and went to the bathroom. When I looked after her I saw that she was vomiting. Another sign that I got probably a first timer. Took her back to bed and finished by fucking her. After that she was open for some posing, see my pics and enjoy. 3 hours later I let her go and gave her 500 Baht which seemed to make her happy. Good luck for her and her baby.[/QUOTE]Obviously, the kid is in a hard situation- perhaps you can find it in your heart to give her a little more than 500 baht next time.
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo;1201810]I was just wondering if anyone had the experience of hiring a maid that of course did the usual household chores but also was expected to be of personal service to you when you felt the urge? I was wondering if anyone had or ever heard of an arrangement like this and if so, how much it cost. Thanks as always for everyones help.[/QUOTE]Why not just hire a hooker and have her clean when stuff gets out of order?
[QUOTE=Sumart; 1201768]Was walking on the Beach Road in early evening when I found this young preggo alone standing on the side.
To each their own, but I see nothing attractive about her. Also, If she said she just turned 18, she is probably 16.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1201365]There is no such thing as low season. Pick any day of the 365 and there will always be thousands more pussies than you could ever hope to stick your dick in.[/QUOTE]I am the eternal optimist.
I am always hopeful of sticking my dick in ALL the thousands of beautiful pussies!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1201841]
To each their own, but I see nothing attractive about her. Also, If she said she just turned 18, she is probably 16.[/QUOTE]
Indeed she may have been 16, but Sumart wasn't her first. Perhaps he should have checked her I'd. Maybe he did.
I would have had no problem shagging her.indeed I would like to find her in a few months time when she has nice milky tits.
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo; 1201810]Hello, Fellow Punters:
I was just wondering if anyone had the experience of hiring a maid that of course did the usual household chores but also was expected to be of personal service to you when you felt the urge? I was wondering if anyone had or ever heard of an arrangement like this and if so, how much it cost. Thanks as always for everyones help.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a very bad idea to me. 101 reasons why, but at the very least it would make it difficult to bring other girls back.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1201856]Indeed she may have been 16, but Sumart wasn't her first. Perhaps he should have checked her I'd. Maybe he did.
I would have had no problem shagging her. Indeed I would like to find her in a few months time when she has nice milky tits.[/QUOTE]I think I'll buy a ticket on that train as well!
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo; 1201810]Hello, Fellow Punters:
I was just wondering if anyone had the experience of hiring a maid that of course did the usual household chores but also was expected to be of personal service to you when you felt the urge? I was wondering if anyone had or ever heard of an arrangement like this and if so, how much it cost. Thanks as always for everyones help.[/QUOTE]I would suggest a woman of 35-40 because they will know how to clean properly. You need someone place an advert for you for a maid in Thai (unless you know someone to organise it for you).
When she comes ask her if she would like to discreetly make some extra money sometimes. I. E. Pay normal rate plus 10% for cleaning but give her a bonus every time she makes you cum. Say 500 baht.
Don't be shy.
If the first one won't the next one will.
Offer a little over the odds in the advert to get a lot of enquiries.
Don't ask one you don't fancy.
Be the boss at all times; don't act like a boyfriend. Say you may bring girls back sometimes (she may join in. I've had that)
It is easy!
I have done this in Spain and I am sure that it is the same the world over. (Did it on holiday in Ko Chang last year)
I am going to do it again when I escape from this fucking financial crisis!
Good luck. Let us know.
NEVER TREAT HER LIKE A GIRLFRIEND and the quality of service will remain high. DON'T ACCEPT SECOND BEST.
[QUOTE=Sumart; 1201768]Was walking on the Beach Road in early evening when I found this young preggo alone standing on the side. Her english was really poor, it seems she just arrived from the farm. Asked her if she wanted to come with me and she nodded. Took her hand and brought her to my room. Found out she is just 18.
Sumart seems to have found a new bottomline. I saw the pics first and was shocked by the sadness and the shame in the girls face. I found nothing erotic at all in them but just a young human beeing in despair. In his report he praises himself for just paying 500 TB. I certainly have greater respect for any pile of dog shit then for a guy like Sumart.
(If he is reading this, eventually he wants to share some information about his social background)
[QUOTE=Lone Punter;1202207]Sumart seems to have found a new bottomline. I saw the pics first and was shocked by the sadness and the shame in the girls face. I found nothing erotic at all in them but just a young human beeing in despair. In his report he praises himself for just paying 500 TB. I certainly have greater respect for any pile of dog shit then for a guy like Sumart.[/QUOTE]The majority of hookers in Thailand are doing it because they are in despair, not because they are just so gung ho to fuck and suck farang. The one Sumart had is just new and does not know how to hide it yet. It's like her first day at a new school and she doesn't know anyone yet. The 500 baht he paid was no praise. 300 - 500 is the going rate on Beach Road. If he would have paid any more than that then...
Some say I paid too much some say I paid not enough. Everyhone should know know himself how much to pay and how to treat the ladies. As you can see on these pics she was not too unhappy, otherwise she would not pose like that.
[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1202207]
[QUOTE=Sumart; 1201768]Sumart seems to have found a new bottomline. I saw the pics first and was shocked by the sadness and the shame in the girls face. I found nothing erotic at all in them but just a young human beeing in despair. In his report he praises himself for just paying 500 TB. I certainly have greater respect for any pile of dog shit then for a guy like Sumart.[/QUOTE]Come on, man, she's a rookie hooker and she got paid the going rate.
There's no shame.
If you think so, maybe you should stay home and jerk off.
Thanks Daddy for defending me. I agree. If she is not up to it she should stay at home and Lone Punter too.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1202251]
[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1202207]Come on, man, she's a rookie hooker and she got paid the going rate.
There's no shame.
If you think so, maybe you should stay home and jerk off.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I am trying to figure out how to get from Pattaya to BKK airport early in the morning. My flight is at 8:15 am from BKK. The bell bus won't make it on time. And taxis will probably try to rip me off this early.[/QUOTE]Not so!
Make a booking with Pattaya Taxi via e-mail.
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
They will arrive on time, even if it's the middle of the night. You'll pay 1000, including the tolls and going via the expressway.
I've used them several times. Highly recommended.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1202244]The majority of hookers in Thailand are doing it because they are in despair, not because they are just so gung ho to fuck and suck farang. The one Sumart had is just new and does not know how to hide it yet. It's like her first day at a new school and she doesn't know anyone yet. The 500 baht he paid was no praise. 300 - 500 is the going rate on Beach Road. If he would have paid any more than that then.[/QUOTE]99% of the hookers I have every met are doing it because of despair. Not just the ones in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1202300]99% of the hookers I have every met are doing it because of despair.[/QUOTE]Maybe you've just been unlucky with your choice of girls.
I wouln't go with a girl who seemed to be in despair, consequently, I only seem to meet the happy ones who are loving all the easy money they are making for such little work.
If you think the hookers are in despair, just think about the poor souls having to work at 7/11 who have to really work for their living.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1202300]99% of the hookers I have every met are doing it because of despair. Not just the ones in Thailand.[/QUOTE]You paint a rather negative picture that is not necessary so here in Thailand. For the vast majority of Thai "working" girls it is just a way of life. They often follow their aunts, sisters, and mothers into the business.
With the money they earn, they buy fancy mobile phones, slutty clothes & shoes, gold, and big gluttonous meals with their friends. A lot of them support Thai boyfriends or husbands, or they go to "boy bars" to barfine young studs for sex. Some do drugs. A portion of the money they earn might go back to their family upcountry.
I have lived with a few Thai bargirls so I know their life well. The only despair I see is when business is slow!
To go on with this topic I think we cannot analyse thai (and asian) culture with our simple dichotomic view: bad / good, happy / unhappy, etc. Asian people can accomodate paradoxes better than we do.
Despair: some of them (the one documented here for sure). Need money: all. Want more money than they would get with a regular job: a lot.
Most of the girls I have met were not unhappy, or could find some fun in it despite some evident drawbacks. Maybe not in Beach Road, but in bars and gogos for sure. The same girl who tells you she doesn't like this work will cum when you fuck her in your room.
That's also what is amazing in this country compared to the "western" scene, where WG usually never cum with customers. I don't know about other guys and I'm not particulerly proud of it (Hmmm, not sure!) , but I would say that 80% of the TGs I pick up cum when I fuck them (Disco, BB or Gogo). Sometimes I even have not spent more than 30mn with her before fucking. So they chat and dance with friends, drink, cum. And the next afternoon go shoping. Unhappy? Not all of them are unhappy for sure!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1201820]Why not just hire a hooker and have her clean when stuff gets out of order?[/QUOTE]Because I want someone who will be around always and on a predictable basis. Looking for a responsible maid first. And some occasional service. Was wondering if anyone out there has had experience with this type an arragement and if so how much did it run them monthly. If anyone does not want to respond here they can feel free to PM me. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1202300]99% of the hookers I have every met are doing it because of despair. Not just the ones in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, how old are you?
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1202397]To go on with this topic I think we cannot analyse thai (and asian) culture with our simple dichotomic view: bad / good, happy / unhappy, etc. Asian people can accomodate paradoxes better than we do.
Despair: some of them (the one documented here for sure). Need money: all. Want more money than they would get with a regular job: a lot.
Most of the girls I have met were not unhappy, or could find some fun in it despite some evident drawbacks. The same girl who tells you she doesn't like this work will cum when you fuck her in your room.[/QUOTE]What does being able to cum have to do with enjoying being a hooker? It looks like many of us mongers are fooling ourselves. Just because you see me working behind the counter at McDondald's and smiling and joking around doesn't mean I like working there and I am not unhappy. Maybe I just need the money and do not have too many other options. Despair does not have to show up on someone's face to be present. Sometimes you have to make your own fun no matter your situation. As El Frances said the girls have the ability to "accommodate" (which means to adjust or adapt) and make sure the customer is having his fun and sometimes they can have their own fun in the process. But this is far from being able to say they enjoy the work.
Most of the girls who are hookers do not qualify for even a low-paying job like 7-11. They dropped out of school too early for that. In Thailand that is a job for a high school graduate. And how many high school graduates do you see out working in bars and in the discos? Next to 0. Their case is that they always stopped going to school around age 12. If you ask any of those girls what they want to do with their lives none of them say well this is my calling. I want to keep being a bar girl or a disco girl all of my life because this is a very fun way to live and foreigners make me cum all the time. They say they want to get enough money to go back home and open their own businesses and shit like that.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1202435]Hmmm, how old are you?[/QUOTE]Old enough to have a conversation with them and realize they are desperate for money to: pay off debt, buy drugs, pay off court costs, support a BF, support kids, support family, fix a car, send money home, get money to go home, etc, etc.
Most hookers throughout the world are doing this for desperate financial need / reasons, not because it is fun for them or they want to make you happy.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1202440]And how many high school graduates do you see out working in bars and in the discos? Next to 0. Their case is that they always stopped going to school around age 12. If you ask any of those girls what they want to do with their lives none of them say well this is my calling. I want to keep being a bar girl or a disco girl all of my life because this is a very fun way to live and foreigners make me cum all the time. They say they want to get enough money to go back home and open their own businesses and shit like that.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed a nice long term regular from a go-go bar who was a college graduate and she showed me her diploma and pictures in cap and gown to prove it. She was in the hooker business to meet a falang for marriage and was able to make damn good money in the process; far more than she could make with her college degree. I used to accompany her to the bank to deposit her 40, 000 baht earnings for a typical months or less work.
Oh, yeah, and she absolutely loved to cum every time. She loved her work and took great pride in satisfying her customer. I never met a happier human being.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1202440]Most of the girls who are hookers do not qualify for even a low-paying job like 7-11.[/QUOTE]I've actually met several girls over the years who worked in 7-11 before, during, and / or after prostituting.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1202459]I enjoyed a nice long term regular from a go-go bar who was a college graduate and she showed me her diploma and pictures in cap and gown to prove it. She was in the hooker business to meet a falang for marriage and was able to make damn good money in the process; far more than she could make with her college degree. I used to accompany her to the bank to deposit her 40, 000 baht earnings for a typical months or less work.
Oh, yeah, and she absolutely loved to cum every time. She loved her work and took great pride in satisfying her customer. I never met a happier human being.[/QUOTE]This is well said! What we need to do is stop putting our Western values on another way of life. There are going to be pros & non-pros in every country in the world. Nothing is going to change just because some people wanted to. My early years in Korea show me that. Accept what is going on around you. The Thais are not going to change, the Filippinos are not going to change. So let's enjoy ourselves and just make sure that we treat all of them with respect. People who criticize are not going in their pockets to uplift these girls. This is a job and she got paid for that job.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1202485]Your research is rather limited, Luvpuss.[/QUOTE]Maybe if you actually traveled, you could express an opinion from your experiences like I have.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1202526]How old are you jagwad / luvpuss?[/QUOTE]You resort to name calling.
That is real mature.
How old are you?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1202244]The majority of hookers in Thailand are doing it because they are in despair, not because they are just so gung ho to fuck and suck farang. The one Sumart had is just new and does not know how to hide it yet. It's like her first day at a new school and she doesn't know anyone yet. The 500 baht he paid was no praise. 300 - 500 is the going rate on Beach Road. If he would have paid any more than that then.[/QUOTE]I agree with Mr. E. This girl is clearly a newbie and doesn't know the ropes yet. The fact of the matter is that she is working on Beach Road which automatically puts her price for services in the 500-700 baht range. On top of that she is not attractive (and despite what many say about Beach Road you can find diamonds in the rough there for 500 baht) and she is pregnant. Unless you are a man who desires pregnant women she won't be pulling in alot of customers. Most men from the West would actually feel sorry for a girl that is hooking and is pregnant and would pass on her, feel sorry and give her money and tell her to take care of herself or make fun of her. And unless the poster physically or mentally abused her, which it seems he did not, then he helped this girl-and not hurt her.
[QUOTE=Showdown;1202715]Most men from the West would actually feel sorry for a girl that is hooking and is pregnant and would pass on her, feel sorry and give her money and tell her to take care of herself or make fun of her.[/QUOTE]Are you saying most men from the West would not have sex with this type of girl, and they would give her money out of sympathy because she is pregnant?
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1202787]Are you saying most men from the West would not have sex with this type of girl, and they would give her money out of sympathy because she is pregnant?[/QUOTE]I don't know about most men but I would pass for sure on the sex and probably give her a few baht for food as well if she looked hungry.
One of my ex wives only loved sex when she was pregnant.
Honestly she probably thought that way because she knew I hated 'pregnant sex'.
Perhaps I am just as out there as anyone here but I cannot understand any desire to have sex with a pregnant woman.
Their belly is hard, the angles are all wrong, really it is just horrible.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1202300]99% of the hookers I have every met are doing it because of despair. Not just the ones in Thailand.[/QUOTE]One of my sisters in law became a prostitute when she was 25 years old.
Her reasons were money and the fact she loved sex.
Using her words " I love fucking so why should I be giving it up for free".
Some of the hardest dirtiest times I have had sex was with her.
Absolutly insatiable.
I met many of her friends on the game as well and none of them were doing it out of despair. They were doing it for money and fun. Granted these girls were top shelf gogo type standard.
Funny thing is that she is now 45 fat and ugly now but she still sells it to the desperate miners out in the outback for $150 an hour. Honestly those guys would do anything with a pulse.
I wonder about all the comments. To make it clear: I did not force her for anything she didn't want to do. In fact I licked her and she became pretty wet. So it was just natural that she did the same on me.
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[QUOTE=Showdown;1202715]I agree with Mr. E. This girl is clearly a newbie and doesn't know the ropes yet. The fact of the matter is that she is working on Beach Road which automatically puts her price for services in the 500-700 baht range. On top of that she is not attractive (and despite what many say about Beach Road you can find diamonds in the rough there for 500 baht) and she is pregnant. Unless you are a man who desires pregnant women she won't be pulling in alot of customers. Most men from the West would actually feel sorry for a girl that is hooking and is pregnant and would pass on her, feel sorry and give her money and tell her to take care of herself or make fun of her. And unless the poster physically or mentally abused her, which it seems he did not, then he helped this girl-and not hurt her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sumart;1202877]To make it clear: I did not force her for anything she didn't want to do. In fact I licked her and she became pretty wet. So it was just natural that she did the same on me.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sumart;1201768]took the initiative and stand in front of her so that she could not avoid my dick. She sucked again, this time a little bit deeper. But all of the sudden she got up and went to the bathroom. When I looked after her I saw that she was vomiting.[/QUOTE]Yes, she's probably anxiously waiting for you to reappear.
[QUOTE=Sumart; 1202877]I wonder about all the comments. To make it clear: I did not force her for anything she didn't want to do. In fact I licked her and she became pretty wet. So it was just natural that she did the same on me.
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1202991]She needs some training on how to suck a dick. Looks like way too much hand action.[/QUOTE]Different strokes for different folks.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1202474]I've actually met several girls over the years who worked in 7-11 before, during, and / or after prostituting.[/QUOTE]
I slept with an ex-7-11 girl a couple of nights ago in Bangkok. She has a deadbeat family and had to jack up her earnings.
And I had a BJ from another one at Bliss Lounge in Pattaya last time I was there.
In Phuket I had a party girl whose divorced parents weren't giving her enough allowance, she was at university in Bangkok.
Those are a few I remember off-hand.
This is not to say they're all happy and carefree, decidedly not. But a good many do qualify for at least low-paying jobs, and simply don't want to stand for it, or they have obligations that such a salary doesn't allow them to meet.
i wanted to drop by x-zone, but they had all the lights on, looked like having a staff meeting until after 9pm. so i looked into utopia gogo, just a bit further toward the pier on walking street. i was entertained by a lb doorgirl who is some type of linguist, she claimed to speak 6 languages. her english was excellent, and her german sounded good to me too. the girls aren't the cream of the crop, but there was at least one tall slim young girl, flat stomach, graceful, and another slightly more curvy cutie, who should rate around 8. and they're advertising 2 for 1 on house drinks all night, at 120b.
one of the girls at superbaby gogo looked yummy, so i enquired about st. the price was quoted as 2950b.
an orange juice at what's up was 175b, and the place was packed. just around the corner is angelwitch, with the best shows in pattaya, with 150b drinks. but what's up certainly does a good vibe for a certain type of party, with the girls and the customers all mixed up, even though it gets cramped.
there are lots of new places opening. at least one new gogo being advertised in soi lk. also in soi lk, on the corner opposite club blu is a new place called sugar sugar. a gogo where they keep their bikinis on. but the place seems to be well-run. they have happy hour cocktails at 90b from 5pm to 8pm. i had a long island, not happy hour, it cost 150b and was pretty damn good, and long. the dancers danced well and enthusiastically. normally i don't like lite gogos, but this one makes it work.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] has some reliable troopers, but they're not so lovely.
x-zyte disco on 3rd road, up the soi from oasis gogo, is now just some big piles of rubble.
as a nightcap, i had a sweet smiling chiang mai lady from beach road at 500b.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1202787]Are you saying most men from the West would not have sex with this type of girl, and they would give her money out of sympathy because she is pregnant?[/QUOTE]Yes I am saying most men from the West would probably feel sorry for this girl and give her money out of sympathy. I would anyhow. And in the USA most people would probably do the same or atleast ask her if they can help her get some help from a shelter or something.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1201503]Mind however that if you bargain it down to the absolute minimum, you get a minimal service only too. A few hundred baht makes a world of difference for these girls and being a "cheap charlie" is considered very bad form in Thai society.[/QUOTE]True to some extent. I seldom tip and don't pay inflated asking prices, but I'm pleasant and a good return customer if I'm happy. And when I show up in my favorite spots, girls come running up to me and jump on me. No problem with service at all.
But it certainly is possible to sour your experience by bargaining hard at the wrong time. Just as possible as being a pushover and paying 3000b for a 10 minute starfish short-time.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1199509]Last night when I was entering Mixx Disco there was a group of 4 Indian guys who they refused to let in. The guys kept asking why they could not go in. The security people were telling them to just go away.[/QUOTE]They fit the stereotype (group, no girls, querulous) , and they got the stereotyped response. Then they continued acting according to the stereotype, thus reinforcing it.
From reading here it seems to me that well-spoken solo Indian guys don't have such a hard time.
[QUOTE=Sumart; 1202877]I wonder about all the comments. To make it clear: I did not force her for anything she didn't want to do. In fact I licked her and she became pretty wet. So it was just natural that she did the same on me.
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[QUOTE=D Cups;1202524]Hey jagwad (luvpuss) in 2011 so far I've been to Curacao, Manila, Hanoi, Halong Bay, Ho Chi Minh, Cebu, Dumaguete, Athens, Mykonos, Frankfurt, Berlin, Cologne, Prague and Amsterdam; and going back in November to MNL, SGN, BKK, CNX, SGN, REP, CEB and DMG. This is just 2011, jagwad. You?[/QUOTE]D, don't get caught up in his negativity. Just post some pics from those 14 recent destinations!
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1203134]D, don't get caught up in his negativity. Just post some pics from those 14 recent destinations![/QUOTE]I have seen your posting history. Why don't you actually try contributing rather than evaluating and bad mouthing everyones posts.
Also, I know who you are from the other forum. Nobody likes you there because of your negativity.
Same / same.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1203148]I have seen your posting history. Why don't you actually try contributing rather than evaluating and bad mouthing everyones posts.
Also, I know who you are from the other forum. Nobody likes you there because of your negativity.
Same / same.[/QUOTE]More negativity huh, your posts so your choice I guess but your over-thinking and missed this time junior. I don't even know of any other boards and am not really interested as I can barely spend 10 minutes on this one W / O frustration setting in...
BTW, why are you so angry!?!
I just read through 5 pages of the Pattaya Reports looking for interesting reports of action in Pattaya.
Not a single report of a mongers trip to this wonderful beach city.
Just a bunch of whining and where can I find condoms, jeez. This used to be a fun read.
D
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter;1148634]Where can I go and watch kickboxing in Pattaya or is it not possible. I am not talking about the bullshit show they put on in the beer bars when going into the beer garden?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1152731]The matches are help by Fairtex at the Fairtex Boxing Stadium, off Therrapsin Road. Soi 2, There are matches going on now in May but I'm not sure of the exact dates.[/QUOTE]When I was at Big C Xtra last week someone put a flyer on my motorbike about the Muay Thai so I decided to pay the place a visit. As LBM said it is held at Fairtex right off Thepprasit Road on Soi 2. You can't miss the place because Soi 2 is such a short street and in front of the place you will see a lighted statue of two guys boxing. The matches are held every Wednesday starting at 8pm and ending around midnight (website says Monday, Thursday, and Saturday for some reason.) The tickets are 1200 baht for normal bleacher seats and 1500 baht for VIP (website says 1000 & 1200) , which consists of white plastic chairs on the floor. The guy that showed me around the place said the matches are shown on T Sports Channel. The website for the venue is [url]http://www.fairtex-muaythai.com/web/home.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Danny Inaz;1203351]I just read through 5 pages of the Pattaya Reports looking for interesting reports of action in Pattaya. Not a single report of a mongers trip to this wonderful beach city. Just a bunch of whining and where can I find condoms, jeez. This used to be a fun read.D[/QUOTE]We made a quick trip to Pattaya yesterday from Bangkok to take care of some business.
Caught the 2:20pm bus from Ekamai Bus station on Sukhumvit Road, hopped on a motosi taxi from the bus station to The Stag's Head on Soi LK Metro, and was enjoying a great meal by 4:45pm. After we ate, we walked over to Champagne a-Go-Go to visit with my GF's friends (she used to dance there), and watch the dancing.
I bought a bottle of Tequila (1L) for the ladies, who proceeded to get drunk. About six of them were taking turns wiggling on my lap. I would say the dancer line-up was a little weak until about 8pm when the night shift girls began trickling in. By 9pm the place was really hopping with fun & fine young flesh. There are some very hot dancers there right now, including a new 19-yo who had some of the sweetest big breasts I've ever seen. We left at about 9:15 to walk over to my meeting.
On the way we stopped in at Tim Bar on Second Road. I'd never been there before and wanted to check it out. It's a comfortable spot with lots of nice looking women. Many big girls with nice curves dancing. Definitely, my "spec." We spoke with a couple of the girls who work there that I know from Secrets Bar. At 9:50 we walked over to Soi 13/4, I had my brief meeting with a local bar owner, then my regular driver picked us up at 10pm in front of the Penthouse Hotel.
We were back in Bangkok at my building by 11:45pm. Quick trip, but a lot of fun, nonetheless.
You would have to try very hard to not find a nice looking bed partner in Pattaya right now. Many, many, beautiful women just waiting for your wallet to open up their mouths and legs! ;)
[QUOTE=Danny Inaz; 1203351]I just read through 5 pages of the Pattaya Reports looking for interesting reports of action in Pattaya.
Not a single report of a mongers trip to this wonderful beach city.
Just a bunch of whining and where can I find condoms, jeez. This used to be a fun read.
D[/QUOTE]Thanks for your informative and helpful report. Not quite up to the standard of your other two posts however, and perhaps a little too wordy in comparison?
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1199441]Guys, I'm heading out to Pattaya for mid-October. Looking forward to meeting and picking up a few nice girls, but in particular I am hoping to find a girl who can give a good GFE experience for a few days. If anyone has a recommendation that they can pass on by pm then I would be very grateful. I appreciate that it's lots to do with chemistry etc, but I made a similar request a year or so ago and one member was good enough to introduce me to a delightful young lady, who has since moved on. Personal recommendations are often the best. Thanks in anticipation.[/QUOTE]No suggestions? Never mind, I'll have to find my own fun then. :)
I'm heading out to LOS tomorrow and land crack of dawn Friday. A gentle massage then a mango delivered to my hotel room for a couple of hours play. A little snooze, a jog around Lumpini Park, then hopefully The Shrimp will turn up on time. I'll spend some time reacquainting myself with her, before dinner, drinks and back to bed again. Should be a good day. :)
Hey guys,
So for my first trip to Thailand, I plan on doing 2 nights in Manila (been here twice already) .2 nights in Bangkok at the Admiral Premier. 3 nights in Pattaya LK Renaissance. 2 nights back in Bangkok and another 2 nights in Manila before I head home. What do you guys think of my plan? I know you guys suggested I stay 1 week in Bangkok and 1 week in Pattaya or split it into 2 trips but I couldn't help myself. I love the Philippines so I needed to spend a few days there and I didn't want to miss out on Pattaya on my first trip. I was also wondering on how I should get to Pattaya from my hotel and back to Bangkok after I'm done with Pattaya. In past experiences, taxi drivers didn't want to travel long distance because they would lose money to come back to their city of origin. When I googled this, it suggested I catch a long range bus from the Eastern bus terminal?
Thanks guys.
Chims!
This is really no problem. Just ask any Taxi driver in BKK and offer 1000 Bhat and pay the highway fee. For the trip back from Pattaya there are many small kiosk with signs "Taxi to Bangkok". They all organize BKK Taxi drivers who brought passengers to Pattaya. Cost for going back is only 800 Bhat.
Enjoy your trip and write reports with pics.
[QUOTE=Chimmy31; 1203522]Hey guys,
So for my first trip to Thailand, I plan on doing 2 nights in Manila (been here twice already).2 nights in Bangkok at the Admiral Premier. 3 nights in Pattaya LK Renaissance. 2 nights back in Bangkok and another 2 nights in Manila before I head home. What do you guys think of my plan? I know you guys suggested I stay 1 week in Bangkok and 1 week in Pattaya or split it into 2 trips but I couldn't help myself. I love the Philippines so I needed to spend a few days there and I didn't want to miss out on Pattaya on my first trip. I was also wondering on how I should get to Pattaya from my hotel and back to Bangkok after I'm done with Pattaya. In past experiences, taxi drivers didn't want to travel long distance because they would lose money to come back to their city of origin. When I googled this, it suggested I catch a long range bus from the Eastern bus terminal?
Thanks guys.
Chims![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chimmy31; 1203522]Hey guys,
So for my first trip to Thailand, I plan on doing 2 nights in Manila (been here twice already).2 nights in Bangkok at the Admiral Premier. 3 nights in Pattaya LK Renaissance. 2 nights back in Bangkok and another 2 nights in Manila before I head home. What do you guys think of my plan? I know you guys suggested I stay 1 week in Bangkok and 1 week in Pattaya or split it into 2 trips but I couldn't help myself. I love the Philippines so I needed to spend a few days there and I didn't want to miss out on Pattaya on my first trip. Chims![/QUOTE]Chims,
It is a good plan because it is based on what you want to do and that is always best. It is a sampler. You are going to cover a lot of ground and meet a diverse bunch of sexy girls. I am sure you will have a blast. I like the part of your plans where you left yourself time for return stays in MNL and BKK. That way if you missed something really good on the arrival side, you can check it out on the return side. There is symmetry to your trip. It will be interesting to hear your plans for the follow-up trip to this one after sampling MNL, BKK and Pat. I like the PI and I like to include it in my Asian itineraries, but IMHO, BKK is 100% better than MNL and Pat is maybe 20% better than AC. Your take may be completely different. Have a bountiful trip.
PS – Schedule the taxi to Pat. For 1000bt it is a good, hassle free way to go.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1203578]Chims,
It is a good plan because it is based on what you want to do and that is always best. It is a sampler. You are going to cover a lot of ground and meet a diverse bunch of sexy girls. I am sure you will have a blast. I like the part of your plans where you left yourself time for return stays in MNL and BKK. That way if you missed something really good on the arrival side, you can check it out on the return side. There is symmetry to your trip. It will be interesting to hear your plans for the follow-up trip to this one after sampling MNL, BKK and Pat. I like the PI and I like to include it in my Asian itineraries, but IMHO, BKK is 100% better than MNL and Pat is maybe 20% better than AC. Your take may be completely different. Have a bountiful trip.
PS – Schedule the taxi to Pat. For 1000bt it is a good, hassle free way to go.[/QUOTE]Natty Bumpo,
Thanks for the positive message. I love the Philippines because it only costs $700 to get their from Hawaii. That plus the hot, young, cheap girls that you can get really drunk makes it so much fun! I also enjoy mongering in Korea even though it's a bit expensive. I just love Korean women and even though some of them are older, I really really enjoy that MILF vibe. In the Philippines and Bangkok, I won't even settle for someone that's older then 23 maybe and they can't have a child! Major turn off. I've met a lot of older American and Australian men in the Philippines that really showed me the ropes and I appreciate them for everything! One guy even paid for the barfine and tip of a girl for me because I only wanted 1 girl because of price and I couldn't decide between 2. This was at a Bar in Burgos Street.
Hi,
I RTFF an the reports of distinction related to Pattaya most of them are great and helpful. But since I will not be free to take a "guest" to my hotel (just do not ask why, please.) I wandered if there is a place like Tulip in BKK also in Pattaya.
Thanks in advance for any suggestion.
CF68
[QUOTE=Crazyfish68;1204128]I RTFF an the reports of distinction related to Pattaya most of them are great and helpful. But since I will not be free to take a "guest" to my hotel (just do not ask why, please.) I wandered if there is a place like Tulip in BKK also in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Since you read the forum, I am sure you are already aware of DD, Soi 6 and Soi Post Office.
[QUOTE=Chimmy31; 1203522]Hey guys,
So for my first trip to Thailand, I plan on doing 2 nights in Manila (been here twice already).2 nights in Bangkok at the Admiral Premier. 3 nights in Pattaya LK Renaissance. 2 nights back in Bangkok and another 2 nights in Manila before I head home. What do you guys think of my plan?[/QUOTE]I think you will spend too much time travelling and getting in and out of airports and hotels.
Allright ppls, I'm heading out to Pattaya in the next two weeks, and want to scope out the boards and soak up as much from the veterens as possible. I read here that the going rate for sexual services in nearly 3000 baht, but other sites are claiming 500-1000. 500 for short time, and 1000 for long time.
"Bar fines in short-time bars are usually around 300 Baht and typically include the room rental fee for up to one hour. Most short-time girls should be satisfied anything between 500 and 1000 Baht for sexual services, but 700 seems to be the norm these days."
I'm on a budget, so I'm wanting to know the cheapest GF friendly rooms to stay. (I'll doub le check the hotel report). Would it be adviseable to get into a backpack hostel for the main stay and when I want to bring home a GF, just rent out the hotel for those nights?
All I want is sleep, sex, repeat.
Also, how do I rent a car without a Thailand Driver Licence? Is it really neccessary for Pattaya?
Hey guys,
I'm looking at the Jomtien hostel for my stay in Pattaya. It's 8USD a night. I'll be in Pattaya for about 4-6 months, could you people sugest a place that's even cheaper? A friend told me that 8USD is too much, and that a mid-class worker makes 8USD as a daily wage. He then told me that you can hire a "guard" (tour guide?) from the bank that has connections and can get you places to stay for 2USD a night!
I'm just looking for A / C and a bed. Internet would be nice, too.
Fellow senior mongerers,
Disregarding the usual quality discussion on the Pattaya Board, I was hoping for a bit of input from you.
Am about to head to Pattaya, haven't been back for about 18 months, but reading back on the forum I wanted to get a sense of price inflation which seems rampant.
My usuals:
- Beach Road: S / T 500 Bhat (I don't L / T from Beach Road)
- Beer Baar: 300 to 500 Bhat for Bar Fine, Bhat 500 S / T, Bhat 1, 000 L / T.
- Go-go: 500 to 700 Bhat for Bar Fine, Bhat 1, 000 S / T, Bhat 1, 500 to Bhat 2, 000 L / T.
In terms of go-gos, I was often pushing up against the Bhat 2, 000 for L / T on my last trip, but that was eighteen months ago. Reading back through this thread it sounds like either there has been massive price inflation, or, someone is payint too much, or, whatever.
Can I get a sound check on going rates for L / T in particular for Beer Bars and Go / Gos please? (For someone who can say saw-dee-cup, etc but doesn't speak that much Thai.)
On the thread here is fine, but preferably on PM.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1203160]More negativity huh, your posts so your choice I guess but your over-thinking and missed this time junior. I don't even know of any other boards and am not really interested as I can barely spend 10 minutes on this one W / O frustration setting in.
BTW, why are you so angry![/QUOTE]I don't get angry at this stuff. This is an anonymous site where we mostly talk about paying girls to fuck. It is not rocket science or solving the world problems. It is suppose to be fun and informative.
But, I think you and DDD Cups need to read the forum before you post. There was actually nothing in my post that was negative. I posted my opinion about the % of girls from my experience that are in this hobby because they are desperate. D Cups attacked it. He then responded with what a great travel resume he has, which actually is not that great. I am retired, with plenty of funds, and have traveled to many more the places than he has over the past year or so. That is mostly what I do, travel and fuck. Both you and him attacked me with negativity. Why? Just because I had an opinion based upon my experience.
Also, if you are not on the other site then I apologize. There is another dude on there that gives the same unique responses as you. Maybe he is just from the same country.
Also, if you check my previous posts, I do try and provide information to others who have questions. My travel experience is vast, and the least I can do is share some information to try and help others.
PS: Wht don't you ask D Cups why he is so angry? He is the one that is showing his anger and immaturity by his childish name calling.
[QUOTE=Crazyfish68; 1204128]Hi,
I RTFF an the reports of distinction related to Pattaya most of them are great and helpful. But since I will not be free to take a "guest" to my hotel (just do not ask why, please.) I wandered if there is a place like Tulip in BKK also in Pattaya.
Thanks in advance for any suggestion.
CF68[/QUOTE]There are short time hotels all over the place. Search on short time hotel Pattaya in Google.
Also soi 6 are all short time bars, among many, many others in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1204191]I think you will spend too much time travelling and getting in and out of airports and hotels.[/QUOTE]Well I only need a couple of hours to get tipys, find me a girl or two and to bang it out! In manila, I'm pretty bored during the day when I ain't mongering. I still haven't figured out what I'm going to be doing in BKK during the day. In Pattaya, I'll probably want to do some type of beach related activities.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1202991]She needs some training on how to suck a dick. Looks like way too much hand action.[/QUOTE]Ty is very good pics.
[QUOTE]I plan on doing 2 nights in Manila, 2 nights in Bangkok at the Admiral Premier, 3 nights in Pattaya LK Renaissance, 2 nights back in Bangkok and another 2 nights in Manila before I head home. What do you guys think of my plan?[/QUOTE]As others have noted, the ratio of travel time to play time for this itinerary seems high. We don't know where original poster is coming from, but unless he's starting in Asia there is jet lag to consider. I know he loves the Philippines, but my counsel would be to save that destination for another trip and add the four days to his Thailand stay. With nine nights in country, he should start in Pattaya and stay for, say, six days. Then back to BKK for the final three days. This results in a trip that's 2/3 Pattaya and 1/3 Bangkok, which is my preferred ratio. It also makes it easier to fly out of BKK, especially if he's departing late at night or early in the morning. As for the LK Renaissance in Pattaya, it's a fine hotel, but it can be noisy.
[QUOTE]I was also wondering on how I should get to Pattaya from my hotel and back to Bangkok after I'm done with Pattaya.[/QUOTE]The Bell Bus is an option:
[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/routes_rates.php[/url]
But it's a *bus* and it doesn't run 24 hours a day. So it's not the most comfortable ride and depending on when you want to travel the schedule could be a problem. Finally, there have been anecdotal reports of the police at the bus station hassling guys they size up as sex tourists by searching their belongings, ostensibly for kiddie porn. But if you can live with those drawbacks, the bus is economical at 200 baht each way.
If you're willing to spend 1000 each way you can hire a car. From Pattaya back to Bangkok you might be able to hire a car for 100-200 baht less than that.
Mr. T's taxi service gets rave reviews, but I've never done business with them. I have used the VR Taxi Service:
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
No trouble whatsoever. Totally dependable. Highly recommended.
Bunky
[QUOTE]I am retired, with plenty of funds. That is mostly what I do, travel and fuck.[/QUOTE]You just became my personal hero.
Yes, I just did some days in BKK and now am in Pattaya (anyone want to get together, PM me). Next trip to LOS I will either do just BKK or just Pattaya. Its a pain to be packing up and moving from one place to another. There is so much to do in each venue, IMHO no reason to be switching back and forth.
Looking at the news in Australia there is reported flooding likely to impact BKK and to the east.
Everything normal in SUkhumvit and around Pattaya? Visiting this week and wondering if I should amend plans.
Cheers.
Rosco
Since many other vacation spot, especially in the North are flooded, lots of locals came here to Pattaya for the weekend. No problem in Pattaya and Sukhumvit was OK when I left yesterday, but high tide is late next week and that's what everyone is worried about.
[QUOTE=David_33;1204583]Yes, I just did some days in BKK and now am in Pattaya (anyone want to get together, PM me). Next trip to LOS I will either do just BKK or just Pattaya. Its a pain to be packing up and moving from one place to another. There is so much to do in each venue, IMHO no reason to be switching back and forth.[/QUOTE]For the most part, once you experience BKK for a few days, there is no reason to spend more time there, IMHO. I usually hightail it Pattaya every trip, unless I have an real early flight out of BKK, like I did my last trip.
There are more venues in Pattaya, and Pattaya's weather seems to be better because of being located on the beach. I agree, packing and unpacking sucks! Skip BKK next trip, explore what Pattaya has to offer.
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1204493]As others have noted, the ratio of travel time to play time for this itinerary seems high. We don't know where original poster is coming from, but unless he's starting in Asia there is jet lag to consider. I know he loves the Philippines, but my counsel would be to save that destination for another trip and add the four days to his Thailand stay. With nine nights in country, he should start in Pattaya and stay for, say, six days. Then back to BKK for the final three days. This results in a trip that's 2/3 Pattaya and 1/3 Bangkok, which is my preferred ratio. It also makes it easier to fly out of BKK, especially if he's departing late at night or early in the morning. As for the LK Renaissance in Pattaya, it's a fine hotel, but it can be noisy.
The Bell Bus is an option:
[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/routes_rates.php[/url]
But it's a *bus* and it doesn't run 24 hours a day. So it's not the most comfortable ride and depending on when you want to travel the schedule could be a problem. Finally, there have been anecdotal reports of the police at the bus station hassling guys they size up as sex tourists by searching their belongings, ostensibly for kiddie porn. But if you can live with those drawbacks, the bus is economical at 200 baht each way.
If you're willing to spend 1000 each way you can hire a car. From Pattaya back to Bangkok you might be able to hire a car for 100-200 baht less than that.
Mr. T's taxi service gets rave reviews, but I've never done business with them. I have used the VR Taxi Service:
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
No trouble whatsoever. Totally dependable. Highly recommended.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Thanks man,
I'm actually forced to stop in Manila for at least a few hours and on the way back a day. So I figured I'd just make it a few days. I'm coming from the States and there's no direct flight from where I'm coming from. I usually run out of things to do during the day and so I begin to monger earlier then I want.
I'll probably go your taxi route because it seems easier. I wouldn't mind a tour of the islands around Pattaya LOL
Sukhumvit seems okay for now. Even if there's minor flooding down some of the side streets during heavy rain it shouldn't bother you much. Not so sure about Pattaya. There was some flooding there a month or so ago when it rained heavily, and there might be again this time around. Pattaya also gets dirty and muddy when it rains much more than Sukhumvit does.
[QUOTE=Rosco4444; 1204602]Looking at the news in Australia there is reported flooding likely to impact BKK and to the east.
Everything normal in SUkhumvit and around Pattaya? Visiting this week and wondering if I should amend plans.
Cheers.
Rosco[/QUOTE]
Just got back from Patts, the prices you mentioned are correct. St and LT are almost the same as the girl usually want to stay overnight in your place. I had to asked them to leave on many occasions.
I would usually negotiate 2-3 hour ST.
Some beer bar girls ask 1000 baht for ST. Actually about 80% of them.
The quality on the beach road went up a lot! You can walk for about 20-30 min and find a real gem. Go-go quality!
I would stay away from Walking street, it became a real tourist trap. Prices in go-go's are 700 BF plus 1500-2000 for ST.
The best deals are on Soi 6 and 7.
I am home now, I find myself looking at the girls and thinking if I would barfine them. LOL. The answer is mostly no.
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun; 1204239]Fellow senior mongerers,
Disregarding the usual quality discussion on the Pattaya Board, I was hoping for a bit of input from you.
Am about to head to Pattaya, haven't been back for about 18 months, but reading back on the forum I wanted to get a sense of price inflation which seems rampant.
My usuals:
- Beach Road: S / T 500 Bhat (I don't L / T from Beach Road)
- Beer Baar: 300 to 500 Bhat for Bar Fine, Bhat 500 S / T, Bhat 1, 000 L / T.
- Go-go: 500 to 700 Bhat for Bar Fine, Bhat 1, 000 S / T, Bhat 1, 500 to Bhat 2, 000 L / T.
In terms of go-gos, I was often pushing up against the Bhat 2, 000 for L / T on my last trip, but that was eighteen months ago. Reading back through this thread it sounds like either there has been massive price inflation, or, someone is payint too much, or, whatever.
Can I get a sound check on going rates for L / T in particular for Beer Bars and Go / Gos please? (For someone who can say saw-dee-cup, etc but doesn't speak that much Thai.)
On the thread here is fine, but preferably on PM.[/QUOTE]
Thanks very much S123, and also thank you to the members that PMed me feedback on my question.
I agree with you, Walking Street is a place to party, not really for picking up girls. However, there are some decent go-gos on the side street from Walking Street I have to say.
Given that which places are good, and which ones are not, tends to shift a lot, any ideas for good Beer Bars that are worth a visit? (Granted that part of the fun is to explore around and find out for yourself, but a few hints are always helpful as I don't have that many nights on the ground this time around sadly.)
[QUOTE=Start123; 1204678]Just got back from Patts, the prices you mentioned are correct. St and LT are almost the same as the girl usually want to stay overnight in your place. I had to asked them to leave on many occasions.
I would usually negotiate 2-3 hour ST.
Some beer bar girls ask 1000 baht for ST. Actually about 80% of them.
The quality on the beach road went up a lot! You can walk for about 20-30 min and find a real gem. Go-go quality!
I would stay away from Walking street, it became a real tourist trap. Prices in go-go's are 700 BF plus 1500-2000 for ST.
The best deals are on Soi 6 and 7.
I am home now, I find myself looking at the girls and thinking if I would barfine them. LOL. The answer is mostly no.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sumart;1202249]Some say I paid too much some say I paid not enough. Everyhone should know know himself how much to pay and how to treat the ladies. As you can see on these pics she was not too unhappy, otherwise she would not pose like that.[/QUOTE]Well done. I too like the ones that preggo. And definitely well along and showing. Keep them coming. And thank you.
Its the club that advertises 50 Russian women inside. I love Russian and eastern european women, but I just can't make it all the way to Russian for a while. Which clubs have white women? Or just freelancers? Or just hotel staff? Help me please, I'm in Patt right now and I'd love to Barfine a beautiful russ or euro girl. Are there any availible? Where do they hang out?
I barfined a beautiful Thai last night, long legs, slim waist and only 82 pounds. In paid 1500 short time, a rip off because it was my first night and I was really hot to trot. Her performance was bad overall, she wanted cover BJ, I manage to get BBBJ, and wanted to leave as soon as first pop was done. I let her go immediately which I think was probably a mistake on my part.
Anyways, have a good day, and thanks for reading.
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun; 1204783]Thanks very much S123, and also thank you to the members that PMed me feedback on my question.
I agree with you, Walking Street is a place to party, not really for picking up girls. However, there are some decent go-gos on the side street from Walking Street I have to say.
Given that which places are good, and which ones are not, tends to shift a lot, any ideas for good Beer Bars that are worth a visit? (Granted that part of the fun is to explore around and find out for yourself, but a few hints are always helpful as I don't have that many nights on the ground this time around sadly.) [/QUOTE]Anyone know a good mamasan who can get me what I want.
Has the heavy rains and flooding effecting Pattaya at all?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1204393]I'm not angry. I don't know any of you well enough to be angry at you. Luvpuss asked me some questions and I answered them. However he has not answered any of my questions. Then he got defensive when I called his bluff. It doesn't make me angry. It just makes me suspcious of anything he says. For example he says he has vast travel experience. To where? How long? How often? Have you ever LIVED in any foreign countries as many of us have (including me) , Luvpuss? I really don't have time to get into a pisssing contest but if someone attacks me you can be sure I will defend myself. I call them like I see them. Peace.[/QUOTE]You are out of touch. Sorry man.
Look at the posts. I posted with a response regarding the desperation of girls in this hobby. You, out of the blue, you (attacked me) responded with "your research is limited". How the F would you know? You know nothing about me. Then you came back with (being defensive) what a great travel resume you have.
Who attacked who? And Who got defensive?
That was my opinion based on my travel experience. I don't need to get defensive like you and list out all the places I have been. They certainly out number yours as I am retired, have plenty of money, and travel 8 to 9 months a year.
You may not have time for a pissing match, but maybe you should take some time to get your facts straight.
Peace
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1204243]I don't get angry at this stuff. This is an anonymous site where we mostly talk about paying girls to fuck. It is not rocket science or solving the world problems. It is suppose to be fun and informative.
But, I think you and DDD Cups need to read the forum before you post. There was actually nothing in my post that was negative. I posted my opinion about the % of girls from my experience that are in this hobby because they are desperate. D Cups attacked it. He then responded with what a great travel resume he has, which actually is not that great. I am retired, with plenty of funds, and have traveled to many more the places than he has over the past year or so. That is mostly what I do, travel and fuck. Both you and him attacked me with negativity. Why? Just because I had an opinion based upon my experience.
Also, if you are not on the other site then I apologize. There is another dude on there that gives the same unique responses as you. Maybe he is just from the same country.
Also, if you check my previous posts, I do try and provide information to others who have questions. My travel experience is vast, and the least I can do is share some information to try and help others.
PS: Wht don't you ask D Cups why he is so angry? He is the one that is showing his anger and immaturity by his childish name calling.[/QUOTE]The only thing that comes to mind is what kids these days like to say - whatever...
Sorry for the belated report. Here it is.
First night
I arrived at BK International Airport at 6PM, waiting for a pick up from the hotel, no show. Called Flipper Lodge Hotel (Soi 8) to ask, it turned out they use third party service; hotel manager informed me "Any minute now", he just didn't remind me "It's any minute of Thai time, you farang!". Driver finally shown up at 9PM, he does not speak any English, all I get from him was a smile when I complained him being very late. Oh, the land of thousand smiles!
Get to the hotel at 11PM, bars are all around Flipper Lodge Hotel, girls cheerfully smiled and waved at me, loud music. But luckily the room I stayed in was quiet. Front desk people was helpful and speak (not too good) English. Checking in with me at the same time was George from Australia; this is his third time in Pattaya. We hit it off right away. George offered to show me around the next day, right now he had to take a shower and go get some "action". I went to my room, took shower and went out after dropping the key at front desk. In 2 minutes I caught a 20 years old girl in Savon Bar about 150 feet form the hotel. Her name is Kin, very friendly, very small size (about 5 foot 3). She speak little English but we seem to be communicate well enough. She ask for a drink, I bought her one and one for myself at 100 each. We talked a little bit, she asked me "Where you from?", answer "America","You don't look America","I am asia-american","Oh, buy my friend a drink","Ok". All of a sudden she asked me to ring a big bell which is hung at the bar. Not knowing the meaning of it, I rung the bell. I really regretted my stupidity: It's a signal that say "I'll pay for all of the girls' drink". There's probably 11 girls, I really can't count well in the dark. Everything turned out great at the end. I paid 300 bar fine, took her to my room LT for 1000. She had to drop her I'd at security desk. We went up to my room, took another shower together. She let me play with her body and her pussy but not her "tut" (asshole).
She was great in bed, kissing passionately. She gave great BJ then she want "bum bum".15 minutes with her was heaven on earth. Her body is great, pussy is tight. She seemed to truly enjoy the sex. She moaned loudly when we were near at the end. She went to sleep right away. I tried to log on line but wifi was not working. Came back to bed and wake her up. She is a little sleepy but performed as asked. Changed positions about 10 times; every time I changed position she would take out the condom and perform BJ. I lasted longer the second time. At 3 Am, I wanted again. She was submissive and performed as I requested. It last til 6AM. My dick was sore an I am pretty sure so was her pussy. 8 AM we went down for breakfast, the food is not bad. Tipped her 300, she was happy. I went to bed.
Sorry for the belated report. Here it is.
First night
I arrived at BK International Airport at 6PM, waiting for a pick up from the hotel, no show. Called Flipper Lodge Hotel (Soi 8) to ask, it turned out they use third party service; hotel manager informed me "Any minute now", he just didn't remind me "It's any minute of Thai time, you farang!". Driver finally shown up at 9PM, he does not speak any English, all I get from him was a smile when I complained him being very late. Oh, the land of thousand smiles!
Get to the hotel at 11PM, bars are all around Flipper Lodge Hotel, girls cheerfully smiled and waved at me, loud music. But luckily the room I stayed in was quiet. Front desk people was helpful and speak (not too good) English. Checking in with me at the same time was George from Australia; this is his third time in Pattaya. We hit it off right away. George offered to show me around the next day, right now he had to take a shower and go get some "action". I went to my room, took shower and went out after dropping the key at front desk. In 2 minutes I caught a 20 years old girl in Savon Bar about 150 feet form the hotel. Her name is Kin, very friendly, very small size (about 5 foot 3). She speak little English but we seem to be communicate well enough. She ask for a drink, I bought her one and one for myself at 100 each. We talked a little bit, she asked me "Where you from?", answer "America","You don't look America","I am asia-american","Oh, buy my friend a drink","Ok". All of a sudden she asked me to ring a big bell which is hung at the bar. Not knowing the meaning of it, I rung the bell. I really regretted my stupidity: It's a signal that say "I'll pay for all of the girls' drink". There's probably 11 girls, I really can't count well in the dark. Everything turned out great at the end. I paid 300 bar fine, took her to my room LT for 1000. She had to drop her I'd at security desk. We went up to my room, took another shower together. She let me play with her body and her pussy but not her "tut" (asshole).
She was great in bed, kissing passionately. She gave great BJ then she want "bum bum".15 minutes with her was heaven on earth. Her body is great, pussy is tight. She seemed to truly enjoy the sex. She moaned loudly when we were near at the end. She went to sleep right away. I tried to log on line but wifi was not working. Came back to bed and wake her up. She is a little sleepy but performed as asked. Changed positions about 10 times; every time I changed position she would take out the condom and perform BJ. I lasted longer the second time. At 3 Am, I wanted again. She was submissive and performed as I requested. It last til 6AM. My dick was sore an I am pretty sure so was her pussy. 8 AM we went down for breakfast, the food is not bad. Tipped her 300, she was happy.
[QUOTE=Gfeyup; 1205183]Its the club that advertises 50 Russian women inside. I love Russian and eastern european women, but I just can't make it all the way to Russian for a while. Which clubs have white women? Or just freelancers? Or just hotel staff? Help me please, I'm in Patt right now and I'd love to Barfine a beautiful russ or euro girl. Are there any availible? Where do they hang out?
I barfined a beautiful Thai last night, long legs, slim waist and only 82 pounds. In paid 1500 short time, a rip off because it was my first night and I was really hot to trot. Her performance was bad overall, she wanted cover BJ, I manage to get BBBJ, and wanted to leave as soon as first pop was done. I let her go immediately which I think was probably a mistake on my part.
Anyways, have a good day, and thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]Why don't you check it out and report back! We all would like to know! I've heard it's a ripoff. But in what way, I don't know.
The following is posted on behalf of the owner of Devils Den:
"
Sirs,
In keeping with the Devil's Den commitment to both customers and staff, we have decided to change our hours of business. Effective from the 1st of November 2011, we will be closed on Sundays. Our Monday through Saturday hours of operations will continue to be from 1:00 pm until 12:00 Midnight.
The reasoning behind this change is that we feel, better rested staff will be able to provide an even higher level of service than they do now. Better to wait a day for a lady who is freshly rested and ready to see to your needs, than one of the typically overworked Pattaya gogo lasses who can't remember the last time she got to see her family- or the sun for that matter.
We are very proud of our ladies and their dedication to Devil's Den. We fall short far more often than they do. We do our best to reward their efforts in tangible ways. Ensuring they are able to plan their days off to gain the maximum relaxation from their down time is we feel fundamental both as a labor practice, and in maintaining a high standard of service to our customers. We hope this will accomplish that.
This is a new and relatively progressive policy, and like many of our policies new to Pattaya within our industry. Therefore it will be subject to a trial run, and review at a future date to ensure that it is meeting the needs of all concerned. We may well make amendments should it prove to be necessary, in which case we will be sure to keep everybody updated.
You have our assurances that any inconveniences that may arise, will be dealt with in the fashion you have come to expect from us.
Regards,
Devil's Den
"
[QUOTE=Gfeyup;1205183]Its the club that advertises 50 Russian women inside. I love Russian and eastern european women, but I just can't make it all the way to Russian for a while. Which clubs have white women? Or just freelancers? Or just hotel staff? Help me please, I'm in Patt right now and I'd love to Barfine a beautiful russ or euro girl. Are there any availible? Where do they hang out?[/QUOTE]Galaxy is supposed to be a strip club, but it is really a clip joint. Forget about 50 women. You'll be lucky to see five. It caters mainly to Indian, Middle Eastern and Asian men who pay huge money just to see a white woman get naked. There is no P4P available.
Last year I met three Ukrainian women who worked at Galaxy. I posted (with pics) about it here:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1112492&viewfull=1#post1112492[/url]
Bottom line is: There are no beautiful Russian girls available for P4P in Pattaya. In in fact, there are no Russian women of any description available for P4P in Pattaya, if you mean citizens of Russia. There are some Uzbek and other Soviet-successor-state hookers who ply their trade late at night on WS or Beach Road, but they are a very grim bunch. Also, none of the Caucasian hookers you see in LOS are freelancers, all are trafficked by one mob or another.
I am aware there are reports on various punter boards of Russian FLers in discos and on Beach Road, but these mistaken or deliberate wind-ups. The attractive Russian girls you see out and around in Pattaya are tourists, not working girls, and most have very tough boyfriends who won't hesitate to use their fists on anyone propositions their girlfriends.
I include a pic of the Ukrainians I met who worked in Galaxy.
Evil
[QUOTE=Junior; 1205928]The following is posted on behalf of the owner of Devils Den:
Sirs,
In keeping with the Devil's Den commitment to both customers and staff, we have decided to change our hours of business. Effective from the 1st of November 2011, we will be closed on Sundays. Our Monday through Saturday hours of operations will continue to be from 1:00 pm until 12:00 Midnight.
The reasoning behind this change is that we feel, better rested staff will be able to provide an even higher level of service than they do now. Better to wait a day for a lady who is freshly rested and ready to see to your needs, than one of the typically overworked Pattaya gogo lasses who can't remember the last time she got to see her family- or the sun for that matter.
We are very proud of our ladies and their dedication to Devil's Den. We fall short far more often than they do. We do our best to reward their efforts in tangible ways. Ensuring they are able to plan their days off to gain the maximum relaxation from their down time is we feel fundamental both as a labor practice, and in maintaining a high standard of service to our customers. We hope this will accomplish that.
This is a new and relatively progressive policy, and like many of our policies new to Pattaya within our industry. Therefore it will be subject to a trial run, and review at a future date to ensure that it is meeting the needs of all concerned. We may well make amendments should it prove to be necessary, in which case we will be sure to keep everybody updated.
You have our assurances that any inconveniences that may arise, will be dealt with in the fashion you have come to expect from us.
Regards,
Devil's Den
"[/QUOTE]Here we go, its going to be like the UK where everything shuts on a Sunday.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1206003]Galaxy is supposed to be a strip club, but it is really a clip joint. Forget about 50 women. You'll be lucky to see five. It caters mainly to Indian, Middle Eastern and Asian men who pay huge money just to see a white woman get naked. There is no P4P available.
Last year I met three Ukrainian women who worked at Galaxy. I posted (with pics) about it here:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1112492&viewfull=1#post1112492[/url]
Bottom line is: There are no beautiful Russian girls available for P4P in Pattaya. In in fact, there are no Russian women of any description available for P4P in Pattaya, if you mean citizens of Russia. There are some Uzbek and other Soviet-successor-state hookers who ply their trade late at night on WS or Beach Road, but they are a very grim bunch. Also, none of the Caucasian hookers you see in LOS are freelancers, all are trafficked by one mob or another.
I am aware there are reports on various punter boards of Russian FLers in discos and on Beach Road, but these mistaken or deliberate wind-ups. The attractive Russian girls you see out and around in Pattaya are tourists, not working girls, and most have very tough boyfriends who won't hesitate to use their fists on anyone propositions their girlfriends.
I include a pic of the Ukrainians I met who worked in Galaxy.
Evil[/QUOTE]Thank you for answering all my questions and helping me out a great deal.
I went to galaxy and it was maybe five or so dancers and no pay for play.
I hesitate to ask another question so ill just post that I heards Tony's caters to the Russian crowd and I wonder if there are any Russian clientele in Pattaya?
I don't just like white women, but I have a hankering for a little variety.
Ill try my luck at Russian clubs if I find any but I'm not overly handsome so it could be a little rough.
Thanks again for the great post.
I waked up around noon. Came outside to eat, the weather is really hot. The beach is less than a minute walk. Sat down on a chair looking out to the beach (you have to pay for the chair, one fixed price for the rental service) and asked the lady taking care of the rental chair to get me a coconut and some fresh crabs. Comparing price, crabs ordered from the street is half the price in the restaurant just across the street. It was so hot even though there's light wind. I decided to go back to the hotel. A young lady about 25 leaning on a palm tree nearby smile at me, her body is not that great but her face is beautiful. I smiled back and approached. After some quick "Hello, how are you, where you from". I asked her if she want to go ST and how much. She said 700, I shook her head, she went down to 500, I still have not decide, she went down to 300 with a promise "If I not good you don't pay". Deal!
In the room she was great, mean BJ and very good in bed. I asked her if I can DT her, she said OK, and she took it all in, down her throat; she gagged but keep going. Her throat is tighter than her pussy. I came shortly in her throat, she didn't like that. I asked her to stay overnight. Gave her 1000 for LT. She was very happy. She let me take some pictures. Will post her pics on here once I figured out how. BTW, her name is Mai.
At 4 PM George bang on my door. I told Mai to stay and I left with George. As a precaution, I gave all my money and passport to front desk to put in the safe. George took me to several bars on soi 7 and soi 6. He showed me how to recognize a ladyboy from a normal girl. He must have french kissed at least a dozen girls from different bar, all he had to do is pay for drink. Watching him at work, all I can say is that he is a master. The last bar we went to was Saigon Bar on soi 6. There was about 12 girls sitting outside. We each picked one. He went back to the hotel with a beautiful young lady.
At 6 PM Mai, George's girl, George and I went to a BBQ buffet (Soi 8) not far from the hotel. Price is reasonable, food is very good. Staff does speak some English, nice and friendly. Got to flirt with one of the girl working there and got her number. Mai wasn't happy.
Mai and I went back to the hotel at 8PM, George was a little drunk but decided to spend some more times on the street.
Mai wanted me to focus on her so she worked hard on bed. I did all sort of thing with her willingly. She gave me a very satisfied GFE.
I received this email from a wingman today:
They just raided lucifer. I was there about 20-30 mins and they shut it down. Wanted all thai ladies out and then the europeans. All black guys waited in the back. I started to get ready and jump into the water and swim to safety.
We went out the front and was searched. Somebody was selling yaba. Also, they caught a thai customs agent with pounds of it not far from here. I might just wait outside the clubs and get one. But in another hour, going to bed if I'm alone. What a country.
Then the update:
They first said all thai women up front, all European men up front and then everyone else. I started looking out into the water because I was going to swim for it. Fuck that. Why do it that way? Then they patted us down. I went to mixx but not much was happening. I'm going to eat breakfast and then sleep.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1206123]I received this email from a wingman today:
They just raided lucifer. I was there about 20-30 mins and they shut it down. Wanted all thai ladies out and then the europeans. All black guys waited in the back. I started to get ready and jump into the water and swim to safety.[/QUOTE]I have to wonder why anyone would even consider the extreme measure of jumping into the toxic waters of Pattaya Bay unless he'd [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] hot if tested or was holding heavy weight. Farang are almost never bothered during such raids. It's the Thais and sometimes Africans who are searched and tested.
But Lucifer's in Pattaya is well-known as a scene for serious dealing. That's much more of an attraction for many of its patrons than the music or FL girls. There is always a risk of raids in such places and one day, the Thai cops will decide to check everyone on site for any traces of dope. Anyone caught is going to be in for a world of pain.
Bottom line: avoid anyplace with back-room dealing.
Evil
Am presently in Suvarnabhumi Airport having left Pattaya this morning. I hadn't been there in a couple of years, but this is probably my last time in Pattaya. Nothing wrong with the girls, Soi 6 was the same and I met a cutie, but I found myself preferring the Euro trash and British hooligans that used to be part of the Pattaya scenery to the way things are now. The entire feel of the city has changed radically. Full of families, Arabs, Indians, Chinese and Russians. The Marriott (staying there was the best part of the trip highly recommended if its within your budget), has a cute Russian girl working there just to deal with all the Russian tourists. Signs are in Russian. Cutest girls are Russian (all with large boyfriends). Greg's kitchen has Russian menu. I suppose its just another sign of the decline of the West. Anyway my future trips to LOS will probably just be to BKK.
[QUOTE=David_33;1206166]Am presently in Suvarnabhumi Airport having left Pattaya this morning. I hadn't been there in a couple of years, but this is probably my last time in Pattaya. Nothing wrong with the girls, Soi 6 was the same and I met a cutie, but I found myself preferring the Euro trash and British hooligans that used to be part of the Pattaya scenery to the way things are now. The entire feel of the city has changed radically. Full of families, Arabs, Indians, Chinese and Russians. The Marriott (staying there was the best part of the trip highly recommended if its within your budget), has a cute Russian girl working there just to deal with all the Russian tourists. Signs are in Russian. Cutest girls are Russian (all with large boyfriends). Greg's kitchen has Russian menu. I suppose its just another sign of the decline of the West. Anyway my future trips to LOS will probably just be to BKK.[/QUOTE]With you there. It has been a few years since I have considered Pattaya a destination. Living in BKK I used to make the trek to the beach at least once a month. The changing demographics have kept me away. Of course the same is true with Lower Sukhumvit as well. Not so many Russians or Chinese, but plenty of the other.
[QUOTE=David_33;1206166]Am presently in Suvarnabhumi Airport having left Pattaya this morning. I hadn't been there in a couple of years, but this is probably my last time in Pattaya. Nothing wrong with the girls, Soi 6 was the same and I met a cutie, but I found myself preferring the Euro trash and British hooligans that used to be part of the Pattaya scenery to the way things are now. The entire feel of the city has changed radically. Full of families, Arabs, Indians, Chinese and Russians. The Marriott (staying there was the best part of the trip highly recommended if its within your budget), has a cute Russian girl working there just to deal with all the Russian tourists. Signs are in Russian. Cutest girls are Russian (all with large boyfriends). Greg's kitchen has Russian menu. I suppose its just another sign of the decline of the West. Anyway my future trips to LOS will probably just be to BKK.[/QUOTE]What? There's no families, Arabs, Indians, Chinese and Russians in Bangkok? I see and hear these folks all the time.
The Pattaya trend you lament is just demographics and world economic change at work. Add in airline deregulation and targeted aggressive TAT marketing. Poof! You have an international low budget destination that mirrors the rest of the world.
Modern Pattaya, the whoor house version, came into being as an R & R destination for American troops fighting in Viet Nam. Same for Patpong in Bangkok. Now people complain when the US Navy comes to town. Deja vu.
If it weren't for the Arabs, Indians, Chinese and Russians, (and Turks, Malaysians, Japanese, etc.) , there would be little left of Pattaya, except for a few grim beer bars and 40 year old go-go dancers coupling with a bunch of drooling old white men spending their pensions!
The West is not declining. Like it or not, it is just becoming ethnically diverse (and poorer). Welcome to the 21st Century!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1206194]What? Welcome to the 21st Century![/QUOTE]Yep, the only constant is change.
[QUOTE=Jojo407; 1205360]Has the heavy rains and flooding effecting Pattaya at all?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I'm in Pattaya 10 Oct. 8 Nov and so a far the rains / floods haven't noticeably affected P4P / Pattaya. It rained on Mon and Tue but it was clear and pleasant at night. Now it's just overcast during the daytime. Medium sized crowds, not too many punters or much overcrowding in the GoGos.
Thu / 13 Nov ditty:
- 1:30 pm I check out Soi 6, selection seemed limited and hardly any cuties. Going from WS (Walking Street, where my hotel's located) to / from Soi 6 the Beach Road (aka Coconut Bar) selection is anemic.
- 9 pm I'm at Worldwide AGoGo on Beach Road (between Soi 7 & 8) and am pleasantly surprised by the selection. A few hot spinners I would love to barfine if I had the financial means (nowadays I ST / LT only FLs to avoid barfines). Going from WS to / from Worldwide AGoGo there seemed to be the best Coconut Bar selection around 8:30 pm, not so much at 10:30 pm.
- 12 midnight I'm at Lucifers when the drug raid happens. Bummed I didn't have a chance to find a FL there, I go to Insomnia which has 50% off all drinks from 11 pm. 1 am (for Insomnia upstairs, not their iBar downstairs which I mistakenly thought it applied to; iBar's happy hour is 8 pm. 10 pm). Insomnia's dead and one of the rare times it's a club sausage fest (in Pattaya generally the girls outnumber the guys, that + the girls being mostly P4P + it's free entrance / cheapish drinks is the reason Pattaya is my favorite place worldwide to go clubbing).
- Previous 3 nights I picked up Baht 1, 000 FLs from Insomnia / iBar around 4. 6 am, but didn't want to try again this night. 3 am I ask a WS FL 25 why / o single mom how much and she says ST Baht 1, 000, LT Baht 2, 000. I walk down Coconut Bar and soon find an ok FL who wants ST Baht 700, LT Baht 1, 300. I keep walking down Beach Road and around Central Festival Mall I find another 25 why / o single mom who says ok to ST Baht 500, LT Baht 1, 000. We head to my hotel for ST she wanted (I tell escorts "up to you, you want ST 500 or LT 1, 000" and they decide which since it doesn't matter much to me). Cute face but her pregnancy wasn't kind to her breasts / stomach what with all the wrinkles (I don't even know if a C-section or natural birth causes that). At least her BBBJ+teabagging was awesome and I told her "I no power for boom-boom." Unfortunately she says no to CIM (I should have negotiated that back at Beach Road). Oh well, I got my moneys worth of ST Baht 500 + tip / taxi money 60 = total Baht 560 as I was really happy with her BJ / teabag performance.
If you want to meet for a beer (I recommend Baccara AGoGo Baht 59 / beer + they have really hot dancers) , PM me. I'm not sure if my PM is working and have never used the PM system before, but if it works out we'll meet up. Cheers.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1206194]What? There's no families, Arabs, Indians, Chinese and Russians in Bangkok? I see and hear these folks all the time.
The Pattaya trend you lament is just demographics and world economic change at work. Add in airline deregulation and targeted aggressive TAT marketing. Poof! You have an international low budget destination that mirrors the rest of the world.
Modern Pattaya, the whoor house version, came into being as an R & R destination for American troops fighting in Viet Nam. Same for Patpong in Bangkok. Now people complain when the US Navy comes to town. Deja vu.
If it weren't for the Arabs, Indians, Chinese and Russians, (and Turks, Malaysians, Japanese, etc.) , there would be little left of Pattaya, except for a few grim beer bars and 40 year old go-go dancers coupling with a bunch of drooling old white men spending their pensions!
The West is not declining. Like it or not, it is just becoming ethnically diverse (and poorer). Welcome to the 21st Century![/QUOTE]I was just about to write the same, but you beat me to it!
Hard to argue that the increasing diversity of the world, and the change in the ratio of mongers to holidayers is a sign of western decadence and decline.
It appears to me as if those who previously visited Pattaya, now can't afford it. The economic decline of the West is a fact. The USA is certainly going down the tubes, and I don't see that changing with the clowns who are running things in Washington. Much the same can be said for England and much of Europe. Be that as it may, I don't get the same feeling of radical change in BKK as I do in Pattaya. So I'll leave the place to you Pattaya lovers and stick to BKK thank you very much.
I booked a business class air ticket on ANA connecting in Hanada to Thai Air's Royal Silk Class for only 75000 United miles. For those with airline miles to use and a flexible schedule, this seems like a really good deal.
I've spent some time in BKK and have written many reports in the past but not really spent much time in Pattaya. From what I read, Windmill seems to have the raunchy shows. I'm looking to see some really nasty stuff. A friend told me she saw a girl shoot a small bird & some fish from her pussy but not in Pattaya. Has anyone seen anything like this in Pattaya? If so, where & what was the cost?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
Pictures are from Walking Street in April 2010.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1206144]I have to wonder why anyone would even consider the extreme measure of jumping into the toxic waters of Pattaya Bay unless he'd [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] hot if tested or was holding heavy weight. Farang are almost never bothered during such raids. It's the Thais and sometimes Africans who are searched and tested.
But Lucifer's in Pattaya is well-known as a scene for serious dealing. That's much more of an attraction for many of its patrons than the music or FL girls. There is always a risk of raids in such places and one day, the Thai cops will decide to check everyone on site for any traces of dope. Anyone caught is going to be in for a world of pain.
Bottom line: avoid anyplace with back-room dealing.
Evil[/QUOTE]I have been reading this board for some time, but have never been to Asia so I have never posted.
I have read a few times about the cops [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] testing patrons. What drugs are they testing for? In all my travels I have never experenced anything like that. I guess it is a Thai custom?
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1206494]I have been reading this board for some time, but have never been to Asia so I have never posted.
I have read a few times about the cops [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] testing patrons. What drugs are they testing for? In all my travels I have never experenced anything like that. I guess it is a Thai custom?[/QUOTE]They can only [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] test Thais, not foreigners. My wingman said they only patted the foreigners down.
In a joint operation involving the Department of Special Investigations (DSI) , Pattaya Police, the Narcotics Suppression Bureau, the Banglamung District Licensing Unit and Police volunteers, a raid of Lucifer Discotheque on Walking Street in South Pattaya, took place in the early hours of Friday. Over 150 Officers took part in the operation and were confronted by over 500 revelers inside the club. Everyone was searched, including foreign patrons and random drug testing took place which resulted in the arrest of 14 women and 2 male employees of the club. Drug taking paraphernalia was found in the Men's Toilet and a large quantity of pain relief tablets were seized, even though managers claimed they were given to staff who suffered from headaches caused by the loud music. A quantity of anti-histamine Chlorphenamine Tablets, were found and seized for now. No illegal narcotics were found and all licenses were found to be in order. The suspected drug users were sent to Pattaya Police Station and Lucifer's is expected to be open as usual over the weekend.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/40650/lucifer[/url]%E2%80%99s-disco-on-walking-street-raided-by-Pattaya-police/
Tuesday I will be arriving in Pattaya for 4 days.
I will need someone to act as a Thai / English interpreter for me. Maybe for 2 or 3 days.
She will need good English, and be able to leave Pattaya to stay overnight in Rayong.
Can anyone suggest a lady who would be suitable, and be able to give me her contact details.
Thanks in anticipation.
G
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1206464]I booked a business class air ticket on ANA connecting in Hanada to Thai Air's Royal Silk Class for only 75000 United miles. For those with airline miles to use and a flexible schedule, this seems like a really good deal.
I've spent some time in BKK and have written many reports in the past but not really spent much time in Pattaya. From what I read, Windmill seems to have the raunchy shows. I'm looking to see some really nasty stuff. A friend told me she saw a girl shoot a small bird & some fish from her pussy but not in Pattaya. Has anyone seen anything like this in Pattaya? If so, where & what was the cost?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
Pictures are from Walking Street in April 2010.[/QUOTE]The regular go go clubs in Pattaya don't have a cover charge, and any that does is a rip off. The nastiest go gos have a lot of "audience participation" in the club, but this isn't an official scheduled "show." It's pretty much continuous except for shift changes.
For example, in X-Zone there are several small stages. At one of them, I had my fist up one girl's pussy while I did another with a banana. All you have to do is buy them a drink or two or maybe tip them 100 Baht.
Windmill seems to be famous for dancers who let you eat their pussy while they're on stage or in the Jacuzzi. But it's not just the girls on stage. The ones who aren't dancing will sit with you for some action also.
Baby Doll's is well known for "hands on" girls. While sitting at a small stage watching 2 girls doing a lesbian show, another dancer sat down next to me and started playing with my cock. After I bought her a drink she took it out and started sucking on it. One of the girls on stage hung her head over the side and got in a few sucks too.
Those 3 may be the best known nasty places, but there are plenty of other "hands-on" spots.
There are touts on Walking Street who try to get you to go to places with "shows" like you might think of in Bangkok. For the most part these are rip-offs and should be avoided. Angelwitch does shows, but they are classy, choreographed things, not live sex.
thank you to all the isg contributors. hopefully someone will find my ramblings helpful. skip down to paragraph "4) diary" below for the stuff on hooking up with escorts.
- i haven't gotten laid since pi (phillipines) oct. nov 2010 so the dry spell is over, hallelujah.
- about me: i'm mid-30s asian-american, cheap charlie with average looks and average personality. i was last in patts apr 2010 and i'm worried i may not be the monger i used to be (major difference is that i'm now an unemployed, poor college student, again). nowadays i'm trying to spend < baht 3, 000 ($100) per day including baht 550 ($18) for my hotel room and baht 1, 000+ for p4p. due to my affinity for gogos (hot nude women) , buying lady drinks and short attention span (i don't stay at one place long so through out the night i visit too many places) staying within budget's hard.
- i'm in patts 10 oct. 8 nov.
taxi.
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
- i paid baht 1, 000+tip 240 ($34+tip $8). my plane arrived 1 hr late (at 12:45 am instead of 11:45 pm) but my chauffeur was patiently waiting for me and i rode in a nice toyota minivan. driving time was about 1 am. 2:30 am.
cellphone.
- i bought a new sim chip baht 80 ($3) and am using it with my unlocked gsm phone.
- the store also sells a brand-new nokia 1280 unlocked gsm phone.
[url]http://amzn.to/qcu4je[/url]
for baht 990 ($33).
1) medium sized tourist crowds whereas dec. jan is the busiest. not too many johns (guys who hire escorts) or much overcrowding in the gogos. every night i'm doing what i can to pump money (+ cim ideally) in to the thai economy.
2) quick glossary / background (see.
[url]www.urbandictionary.com[/url]
for more detailed info)
b (aht) 30. 5 = us $1 (or b 100 = $3. 40)
i use " " to indicate approximately ie escort's height & weight.
cim = cum in mouth (cof = come on face ie money-shot)
bbbj = bareback blowjob ie opposite of a cbj (covered / condom bj) ; usually if a los escort does bjs, it's a bbbj but occasionally they'll insist on a cbj.
3-holer / three-holer = does vaginal, oral and anal.
starfish = just lays in bed ie a terrible lay.
runner = tries to leave early eg if you negotiated lt but she leaves after 1 pop.
pse = porn star experience eg (acting) she's like jenna jameson during filming.
gfe = girlfriend experience eg does what a cool, regular girlfriend would do with you except the escort's getting paid for her st / lt.
fs = full service (conventional vaginal intercourse) , aka "boom-boom"
bf = barfine, commission paid to business by john so he can go with an employee / escort.
st = short time (eg 1 pop) , lt = long time (generally 1st pop, sleep then 2nd pop)
agogo / gogos = gentlemen clubs, dancers in skimpy outfits, or mostly / fully nude.
beer bar = bars where employees can be barfined; they wear regular clothes.
fl = (pro) freelancers who tricks regularly, escorts who work independently or off-duty from their workplace; john doesn't pay a barfine but riskier sees she may not be affiliated with a business / supervisor.
amateur fl = rarely takes a john or trying it for the first time; may be a student, hair stylist, on vacation, out drinking / partying / clubbing, in-between regular jobs, wants $ for shopping / make rent / pay bills, etc.
br = beach road, the west facing 1. 5 mile beach / strand running from north's soi 2 to south's soi 15; br aka cb = coconut bar (trees line along the strand) w / lots of fl
soi = street; soi 2. 16 run perpendicular (ie west-east) to br which runs north-south.
ws = walking street, highest concentration of gogos / beer bars & where most clubs (insomnia, ibar, lucifer, candy shop, marine) are located; prices typically higher on ws than o.
soi 6 = (near pattaya's north end; ws is near pattaya's south around soi 15) , concentration of cathouses specializing in st where b 1, 000 ($34) = b 300 for barfine & use of st room upstairs + b700 escort's fee.
spinner = petite chick eg < 5' 4", < 100 lbs.
sloppy tits / boobs / breasts = they sag unattractively, really noticeable if she's large-chested.
monger = short for *monger; escort connoisseur
p4p = pay for play, prostitution.
3) approximate looks / pricing.
- generally the escort's attractiveness is gogo ws fl beer bar soi 6 cb fl. hotness is entirely subjective and sometimes there are ugly gogos and hot cb fl so it just depends.
- my ideal chicks are fl (preferably amateur) that are also tiny spinners (< 5' 3", < 90 lbs) with straight, black long hair, little to no make-up, full a cups or as large as c cups. 18. 22 why / o, no kids, does bbbj+cim, three-holer, prefer hot girl-nextdoor-type but i'll take a hot model-type (eg i would rather bang natalie portman than giselle budchen). of course i rarely score my ideal chicks since i'm an unemployed, poor cheap charlie and i try to only pay st b 500 ($17) , lt b 1, 000 ($34). i want to avoid barfines but eventually i'll want to score gogos and beer bar chicks, and up the price i pay for st / lt to get better fls.
- barfines are non-negotiable, the st / lt fee the john pays to the escort is negotiable so a handsome and / or charismatic player could in theory bang fl chicks entirely for free. what you get also depends on your negotiation skills: a john could convince the girl to let him have 2+ pops during his st.
- these are typical prices in my limited experience but it does vary from business to certain other businesses and escorts sometimes highballs you so it's worthwhile to negotiate (it helps if you're decent looking, can get along with her and / or she genuinely wants to go with you) :
- gogo st = total b 1, 600 ($54) = bf b 600 ($20) + escort b 1, 000 ($34)
- gogo lt = total b 2, 600 ($88) = bf b 600 ($20) + escort b 2, 000 ($68)
- beer bar st = total b 1, 000 ($34) = bf b 300 ($10) + escort b 700 ($24)
- beer bar lt = total b 1, 800 ($60) = bf b 300 ($10) + escort b 1, 500 ($50)
- cb fl (coconut bar freelancer) st b 500 ($17) , lt b 1, 000 ($34)
- of course tipping and / or giving her taxi money is optional.
4) diary (friend # = escort i hooked up with)
note: in los / pi i usually pop 1/2 a kamagra pill, which is generic viagra, prior to round 1 with a new escort if i'm also doing fs. if i just want a hj &/or bj then no kamagra.
- over the course of shopping for an escort i can't negotiate a deal with 1. 10+ women because they say no deal (they weren't interested, i wasn't willing to pay enough or for whatever reasons) or during negotiations i realize she's not what i want at that moment (turns out to be a butter face, won't do bjs, too old, she's ****, has kid (s) , etc).
mon / 10 oct.
friend 1, kwang. 19 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. lt b 1, 000 ($34). does cim, swallows. fl (was off-duty from ws' casnovy gogo) i met at ws' insomnia ibar. 19 why / o. 5'4".100 lbs. baht 1, 000 ($34). her, her 3 friends and a (russian?) guy were drinking at ibar when i met them around 4 am. i asked the guy if i could talk to her (make sure i'm not hitting on someone he's with) and he was cool. she ends up coming back to my place, says she's horny, we shower together as prep for round 1, in bed she does an awesome bj, moans during intercourse, does cim and swallows without batting an eye.
first pop at 5:45 am, slept until 7 am, then she gets up. i'm wondering if she's goofing around when she opens my closet, sits down but then starts peeing (wtf, i didn't know if she was still slightly inebriated, just drowsy, or messing with me). i grab her, tell her "the bathroom's over there" so she finishes up there. she comes to bed, seems to be in the mood, so we ended up going for round 2. considering how good in bed she is i can tolerate the miss-peeing. she's asleep until 12 noon, we do round 3, get lunch for b 130 ($4. 50) consisting of chicken fried rice, pork / intestines fried rice+egg and 2 cokes. we sleep until 6 pm, i'm too jet-lagged for round 4, she says she doesn't recall peeing in my closet, and we part ways.
in retrospect i should have checked to see if she'd do anal. and i'm worried that since on my first night i scored a hottie off-duty gogo for lt baht 1, 000, it may be downhill from here. sadly, friend 2. 5 aren't as attractive.
tue / 11 oct.
friend 2, jit. 21 why / o. 5' 3".95 lbs. lt b 1, 000 ($34). does anal, cim. fl i met at insomnia around 4 am. friend 2 has an ok face but then turns out to have a great body, near-perfect tiny spinner physique. about 4:30 am for round 1 and i test the anal-waters. she had done anal before but was reluctant to try it with me. so i 1) use lots of ky. 2) offered my fingers / pinky / side of my hand (opposite thumb-side) for her to bite on while she's enduring the anal discomfort / pain and 3) i only did anal after i (tried to) satisfy her vaginally with intercourse and fingering. so she lets me go in the backdoor, my left-hand hurting because she's biting in to it but fortunately she didn't break the skin / draw blood. i really don't know if she enjoyed anal but we did at least 2 positions: missionary and woman-on-top. when she was on top (mini-me in her bunghole) she still bit into my hand but seemed a little more relaxed with the anal action. around 2 pm we had round 2 (no anal, sadly) , lunch, and she left. 2 nights later she called for a hook-up but i told her "sorry, i find 'nother lady" which i kinda regret since she had a dope body, does anal & cim.
wed / 12 oct.
friend 3, 22 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. st b 1, 000 ($34). does anal, cim. has 1 kid, she has ok looks. fl i met at insomnia about 6 am. at my place after the vaginal stuff i try the exact same routine from friend 2. i 1) lots of ky. 2) she bites on my fingers / hand 3) anal only after the vaginal. she says she's never done anal and is reluctant to but does let me go in the backdoor. we did that in missionary position, i don't remember if she went on top, and we did it doggie style but with both our bodies laying down on our left-side. we sleep a little but she's a runner who won't do round 2 and at 8 am is leaving. we argue somewhat over if she deserves b 500, b 700 or b 1, 000. she says if she knew it was only b 500 she would not have gone with me and that she always gets b 1, 000. i say i want round 2 even if it's just a bj. i say screw it, give her the b 1, 000 and she leaves. when i picked her up at the club i should have made it clear st 500, lt 1, 000. oh well, she's got a kid to pay for and she was good in bed, the anal being a nice surprise.
thu / 13 oct.
- 1:30 pm i check out soi 6, selection seemed limited and hardly any cuties. going from ws (walking street, where my hotel's located) to / from soi 6 the beach road (aka coconut bar) selection is anemic.
- 9 pm i'm at worldwide agogo on beach road (between soi 7 & 8) and am pleasantly surprised by the selection. a few hot spinners i would love to barfine if i had the financial means (nowadays i st / lt only fls to avoid barfines). going from ws to / from worldwide agogo there seemed to be the best coconut bar selection around 8:30 pm, not so much at 10:30 pm.
- 12 midnight i'm at lucifers when the drug raid happens. bummed i didn't have a chance to find a fl there, i go to insomnia which has 50% off all drinks from 11 pm. 1 am (for insomnia upstairs, not their ibar downstairs which i mistakenly thought it applied to; ibar's happy hour is 8 pm. 10 pm). insomnia's dead and one of the rare times it's a club sausage fest (in pattaya clubs generally the girls outnumber the guys, that + the girls being mostly p4p + it's free entrance / cheapish drinks is the reason pattaya is my favorite place worldwide to go clubbing).
- friend 4, 25 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. total b 560 ($19) = st b 500 ($17) + tip b 60 ($2). has 1 kid, she has ok looks, subpar spinner body due to wrinkles from old pregnancy. previous 3 nights i picked up b 1, 000 fls from insomnia / ibar around 4. 6 am, but didn't want to try again this night. 3 am i ask a ws fl 25 why / o single mom how much and she says st baht 1, 000, lt baht 2, 000. i walk down coconut bar and soon find an ok fl who wants st baht 700, lt baht 1, 300. i keep walking down beach road and across from central festival mall i find another 25 why / o single mom who says ok to st baht 500, lt baht 1, 000. we head to my hotel for st she wanted (unless i forget: i tell escorts "up to you, you want st 500 or lt 1, 000" and they decide which since it doesn't matter much to me). cute face but her pregnancy wasn't kind to her breasts / stomach what with all the wrinkles (i don't even know if a c-section or natural birth causes that). at least her bbbj+teabagging was awesome and i told her "i no power for boom-boom" since i was only interested in a bj. unfortunately she says no to cim (i should have negotiated that back at beach road) so it ends up being a cof mostly around her mouth.
fri / 14 oct.
- friend 5, 30 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. total b 540 ($18) = st b 500 ($17) + tip b 40 ($1. 50). cim. has 2 kids, she has cute face, subpar spinner body due to wrinkles from old pregnancy. walking down br / cb i first found this teenie hottie, sitting with her friend, who agrees to st b 500 and takes cim. disappointing she has no i'd but claims to be 19 why / o. i'm tempted to chance it, but i come to my senses and pass. walking further north on cb i find friend 5 with her friend. friend 5 asks if i can give her friend taxi money so she can go home, i say sure and hand her b 20 ($.70) and she's happy. once at my hotel friend 5 turns out to be really horny and wants fs but i tell her "i no power for boom-boom" and try to console her with finger-banging. bj, teabagging, cim and she leaves. she said no to anal (i don't think she's done it before) but said if i paid her st b 1, 000 then she'll try it. i believe b 500 ($17) is the typical anal surcharge from cb fl, which if i could spare the money is totally worth paying for especially if she's an anal virgin. with friend 5 since i didn't take the kamagra mini-me just wasn't up for it.
sat / 15 oct.
- no friend, so sad. i think i'm the only monger in pattaya who wanted to but couldn't score an escort on a sat night. about 6 am i leave insomnia with 3 thai chicks vacationing in pattaya, but the ages turn out to be 31, 25 and 16 why / o. of course the 16 why / o is the hot one, my freakin' luck. i realize how bad my rut is. friend 1. 3 were from insomnia / ibar, friend 3. 5 were moms (i don't mind milfs but when it's p4p i prefer non-moms) , and friend 4. 5 were from cb. i need to break out of this rut, maybe even start barfining from beer bars or gogos.
sun / 16 oct.
wish me luck on part 2 turning out better than part 1 of this trip.
Met this young girl called Kung on a visit last year. She was working at Peppermint Go Go and then later moved to Airport Go Go.
She was 21 when I met her. Very nice to kiss and has a tiny body.
Service was ok, but I wanted to try with a girl with a tiny body as it was something I'd not done before.
Having sex with a girl so small wasn't too comfortable, because they feel very boney.
I now prefer girls with a healthy build, who you can give a very good pounding too, without any trouble.
[QUOTE=Butter69; 1207113]Met this young girl called Kung on a visit last year. She was working at Peppermint Go Go and then later moved to Airport Go Go.
She was 21 when I met her. Very nice to kiss and has a tiny body.
Service was ok, but I wanted to try with a girl with a tiny body as it was something I'd not done before.
Having sex with a girl so small wasn't too comfortable, because they feel very boney.
I now prefer girls with a healthy build, who you can give a very good pounding too, without any trouble.[/QUOTE]I've been with a lot of girls with a tiny body, there loverly little things.
Last night landed at BKK at 11:08pm. I went upstairs and outside of door 9 to get taxi. The first taxi that I saw I asked the driver how much to go to Pattaya. He said 1000. I said 900. He said you pay highway? I said yes. Got into taxi at 11:33pm. At the first toll booth I gave him a 1000 baht bill and told him to keep the change. He went 140km / h the entire way. I arrived home at 12:40am, exactly 1 hour and 32 minutes after landing. It's not that hard. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill about transportation from BKK to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1206971]Wish me luck on Part 2 turning out better than Part 1 of this trip.[/QUOTE]I actually enjoyed your detailed report! It looks like you put a lot of effort and thought into it! Good luck with Part 2.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1207288]Last night landed at BKK at 11:08pm. I went upstairs and outside of door 9 to get taxi. The first taxi that I saw I asked the driver how much to go to Pattaya. He said 1000. I said 900. He said you pay highway? I said yes. Got into taxi at 11:33pm. At the first toll booth I gave him a 1000 baht bill and told him to keep the change. He went 140km / h the entire way. I arrived home at 12:40am, exactly 1 hour and 32 minutes after landing. It's not that hard. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill about transportation from BKK to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Good info. I don't know why it seems so difficult for some.
You must of had the same taxi driver I had last time. He got to Pats in less than an hour. A dangerous, but efficient ride.
With the number of sandbags lining the streets and blocking off the already restricted walkways, Pattaya iseems to be preparing either for World War III or The Ark II. Anyone know which? Whichever, Armageddon seems to be delayed, possibly permanently.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1207355]With the number of sandbags lining the streets and blocking off the already restricted walkways, Pattaya iseems to be preparing either for World War III or The Ark II. Anyone know which? Whichever, Armageddon seems to be delayed, possibly permanently.[/QUOTE]The media has done a wonderful job with their 24 hour coverage of putting the population in a state of panic. People that live in non flood areas are bricking up their doors, and packing their belongings into plastic boxes. I have some friends that live in a shop house and they moved everything to the second floor, they are not near any water source, but the television coverage has them convinced that they will drown. It is hard to find bottled water or soup because people are stocking up for the great flood.
At least it keeps them busy.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1207355]With the number of sandbags lining the streets and blocking off the already restricted walkways, Pattaya iseems to be preparing either for World War III or The Ark II. Anyone know which? Whichever, Armageddon seems to be delayed, possibly permanently.[/QUOTE]Nope, according to some nutty US televangelist, the world will definitely end on Friday 21st of October 2011. And as the few who will enter heaven have already been chosen on 21st of May, you can monger around as much as you want now, so get yourself some Thai pussy while it lasts.
Sorry to be a bore, but what does why / o mean? Re Amex Spg.
It is not listed in abbreviations.
G
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1206971]Wish me luck on Part 2 turning out better than Part 1 of this trip.[/QUOTE]Good of you to contribute information with numbers.
Geez, some people here are so negative, and then when you look up what they posted, it's mostly useless.
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1207496]Sorry to be a bore, but what does why / o mean? Re Amex Spg.
It is not listed in abbreviations.
G[/QUOTE]Years old. The editor is changing the letter why to the word why for some reason.
It just did it to me in the above sentence.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard;1207375]but the television coverage has them convinced that they will drown.[/QUOTE]Think of the opportunities! It should not be too difficult to convince some farmfresh strawberries that it is much safer in your 5th floor hotel room than in their ground floor bar and that you are offering them sanctuary in your room for free. Carpe diem!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1207388]Nope, according to some nutty US televangelist, the world will definitely end on Friday 21st of October 2011. And as the few who will enter heaven have already been chosen on 21st of May, you can monger around as much as you want now, so get yourself some Thai pussy while it lasts.[/QUOTE]If this is the same referrence we have a little more time than the 21st of October. I heard that this is written in scripture and world leaders know about the event and this particular date as the end but don't want to speak of this event so as to not panic the world. The date I believe is 12-21-2012?
The globol warming isn't coming from the outside but within the earth. As the earth heats up leading to the date you will have some unusual weather changes and when the end comes the earth will be 90% or something like that cover. If I got it right the big signal will be a valcano somewhere in Indonesia eruptiing and SEA will be the first destination affected?
Billy Graham daughter is said to be a big believer in this theory as she was interview on Fox News but didn't go into detail as to the exact event. i'm not concern myself about being picked to go to heaven that is out of my hand but whether you believe on the date 21st of October or a year or so later? You can go out with a big bang and get that pussy now or stretch your money out to another year?
LBM
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1207288]Last night landed at BKK at 11:08pm. I went upstairs and outside of door 9 to get taxi. The first taxi that I saw I asked the driver how much to go to Pattaya. He said 1000. I said 900. He said you pay highway? I said yes. Got into taxi at 11:33pm. At the first toll booth I gave him a 1000 baht bill and told him to keep the change. He went 140km / h the entire way. I arrived home at 12:40am, exactly 1 hour and 32 minutes after landing. It's not that hard. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill about transportation from BKK to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Great Job. I will be in Pattaya this Friday. This is my 1st trip to Thailand and the experience has been great. I am still in BKK. Can you recommend some Hotel for a good price, say in the $60 to 75. 00 dollars per night? Is that doable?
Thank you in advance for your prompt response.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1207288]Last night landed at BKK at 11:08pm. I went upstairs and outside of door 9 to get taxi. The first taxi that I saw I asked the driver how much to go to Pattaya. He said 1000. I said 900. He said you pay highway? I said yes. Got into taxi at 11:33pm. At the first toll booth I gave him a 1000 baht bill and told him to keep the change. He went 140km / h the entire way. I arrived home at 12:40am, exactly 1 hour and 32 minutes after landing. It's not that hard. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill about transportation from BKK to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Yep – Agreed Mr. E. Getting a taxi from the airport to Pattaya is a piece of cake. IF, and a big IF, you are a seasoned pro who has been in and out of Thailand many times, are street wise and know how to take care of yourself.
Taxis, like renting Jet Skies, Motor Bikes and even hotel rooms are subject to SCAMS. Jumping into unknown strangers cars could lead to problems. How do you know you are not going to be driven down a dark alley and robbed at knife or gun point?
Mr. E. How did you travel from the airport the first time you arrived in Thailand?
Your travel tips are for seasoned pros and I think you should make that point clear.
We don't need newbies falling down a molehill and ending up with a mountain to climb?
I arrived in Pattaya this morning and am staying at the Pattaya Bay Resort for 999 baht per night including breakfast for 1 or 2 people. The weather is good. It was clear all morning with no signs of flooding. There was a flash rain that lasted for 20 minutes while I was getting a 200 baht massage. The girl offered a BBBJ for a tip but I declined as I just wanted the massage.
Please PM if you want to meet in the next week.
[QUOTE=ElHombreContento; 1207595]Great Job. I will be in Pattaya this Friday. This is my 1st trip to Thailand and the experience has been great. I am still in BKK. Can you recommend some Hotel for a good price, say in the $60 to 75. 00 dollars per night? Is that doable?
Thank you in advance for your prompt response.[/QUOTE]Just returned from a 1 month trip to Pattaya, and I will say, You can get a nice hotel room at that price, and even LOWER than $60. Are you looking for a Commercial
Hotel chain, Local establishment, or Guesthouse. Alot of choices within that range.
Alot of hotels on or near walking street can be had. Secrets, Galaxy Suites off WS. 3some Guesthouse on LK Metro. Plethora of choices.
AMEX SPG, thanks for an extremely comprehensive report on your activities to date. I found your report to be very informative & entertaining!
I met up with AMEX SPG last night to check out a couple go-go bars. We went to Windmill and Alcatraz. Both places had no cover charge and 99 baht drinks. Lots of girls with shower & other dancing shows. The selection on Beach Road really varies but IMHO about 5% could be gogo quality without the bf and attitude. Variety is the spice of life!
[QUOTE=Torosi; 1207613]Yep – Agreed Mr. E. Getting a taxi from the airport to Pattaya is a piece of cake. IF, and a big IF, you are a seasoned pro who has been in and out of Thailand many times, are street wise and know how to take care of yourself.
Taxis, like renting Jet Skies, Motor Bikes and even hotel rooms are subject to SCAMS. Jumping into unknown strangers cars could lead to problems. How do you know you are not going to be driven down a dark alley and robbed at knife or gun point?
Mr. E. How did you travel from the airport the first time you arrived in Thailand?
Your travel tips are for seasoned pros and I think you should make that point clear.
We don't need newbies falling down a molehill and ending up with a mountain to climb?[/QUOTE]Dude, it's a marked public taxi that anyone from a school kid to grandma can take. It's not like some back alley super-secret James Bond illegal deal where the chances are very high you will be ripped off or killed in the process. The chances are much higher that something will go wrong in a mongering evolution than taking a taxi. Stop watching so much TV. They make the stuff so they can scare the shit out of you. No the sky is not falling. Bangkok and Pattaya are dry as a bone. There is no one in chest deep water or in boats unless it is in the ocean. By the way my first time in Thailand we took one of the airport "limos" that the people get you to sign up for right after leaving customs. That was because we didn't know any better. And at 600 baht to go to Nana; now THAT was a SCAM!
[QUOTE=Torosi;1207613]How did you travel from the airport the first time you arrived in Thailand?[/QUOTE]I took the Airport Rail Link downtown and actually WALKED from the Makkasan Station to my hotel near Soi Cowboy. Yeah, I know, I'm a regular Rambo.
The worst that I had to endure were the calls from the massage ladies in Sukhumvit Soi 23 and the curious looks from the students at Srinakharinwirot University when I took a shortcut through their campus.
[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1207822]Just returned from a 1 month trip to Pattaya, and I will say, You can get a nice hotel room at that price, and even LOWER than $60.[/QUOTE]I guess that I must be a right cheapo then as I'm paying less than $20 for a comfortable room in a old but decent hostelry on Soi 11. But that leaves more money for honey and thats what the place is all about.
Spent a pleasant few minutes watching Boby hullahooping outside DD last night. Boy, that girl has some moves and if what I hear is true, she is even better horizontal. And those boobs! Definately on my to-do list.
This is Kwan. She's a freelancer and often picks up guys from discos in Walking St.
Anyone have any experience with her?
[QUOTE=Kitie Carson; 1207822]Just returned from a 1 month trip to Pattaya, and I will say, You can get a nice hotel room at that price, and even LOWER than $60. Are you looking for a Commercial
Hotel chain, Local establishment, or Guesthouse. Alot of choices within that range.
Alot of hotels on or near walking street can be had. Secrets, Galaxy Suites off WS. 3some Guesthouse on LK Metro. Plethora of choices.[/QUOTE]Thank you man for the response. I have looked at a site called Agonda. Com, have gotten excellent rate with great selections. It looked like I will stay at the Sea Me. They have great rooms for $55.00 dollars a nite / with Breakfast. I will be there this coming Friday for 4 nights.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1207973]I guess that I must be a right cheapo then as I'm paying less than $20 for a comfortable room in a old but decent hostelry on Soi 11. But that leaves more money for honey and thats what the place is all about.[/QUOTE]Eight years ago you would have been considered a high roller spending $20 for a room in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1207981]That sounds so exciting CS. Did you go home and give yourself a free chack well?[/QUOTE]It was, sure beats tripping over sandbags! But tell me, what is a chack?
I actually took home Gik, who has to be the sweetest little spinner in the whole of Pattaya.
Someone today who I met in a layby said Pattaya is a cheaper place for a sex tourest then Bankok.
Is this true or not
I met Mr. Enternational today & he should be called Mr. Kool. Mr. E. Is a fountain of knowledge. I met him around lunchtime & he took me on his motorbike to see the soapies & the bars on Soi 6. The soapies cost 1800 for full service but I didn't participate. It was very fun to see the girls in the "fishbowl". [url]http://www.pattayaphotoguide.com/sabai-dee-body-massage[/url] Soi 6 is loaded with bars including Ladyboy bars. The place is like a cheaper, mini Walking Street. Many thanks to Mr. E for showing me around today.
Walking back to my hotel, I stopped in at the Hard Rock hotel to check out their famous Seafood BBQ Dinner buffet. It is 750++ (& 950++ on Saturdays). All nights include unlimited soft drinks, beer wine, & whisky but Saturday they roast an entire pig & more seafood. There are 15% off coupons at the restaurant.
Before going back to my hotel, I stopped in to get another 200 baht full body massage at Be Happy On Soi Post Office. I saw the same girl as yesterday that offered me 500 baht BJ that I declined. Today she offered 500 baht FS. I got the famous line,"I never do this, only for you this price." 200 baht full body massages are always great!
Pattaya is much better than Bangkok, much, much better! I will be happy to "pay it forward" and meet any newbie to Pattaya to show them around. Just PM me.
[QUOTE=James02; 1208176]Someone today who I met in a layby said Pattaya is a cheaper place for a sex tourest then Bankok.
Is this true or not[/QUOTE]About 1/3 to 1/2 price.
Well following the advice earlier in this forum I took myself and my girlfriend to Devils Den during our Thailand holiday. She is very open minded and happy to try things and is OK with my being with other ladies as long as she is there with me.
Walked into DD and was greeted by John. I think, is he american? Anyway, very nice guy and talked us through the options. We came with the view of taking one girl but he explained that since we were a couple, the price for one or two girls is the same (since the one girl have to serve two clients?) The logic was lost on me but hey, why not two girls!
Nice reception area with mutltiple computers where one can review the girls, turned out there was only 4 availble at that time (7 PM) , and none that both of us liked so we picked two girls for the following night.
So on the next day, we went back again, and met the girls who took up upstairs to the room. Which was very nice in my view with mirrors everywhere and a BIG bed. After undressing it was clear that one of the girls we had picked (Cookie) had a nice body but NO tits, totally saggy, whilst the other one (Cory) had an amazing body with perfect tits. In fact not much different from that of my girlfriend.
Unfortunately, tits are important to me so I was disappointed with Cookie and felt that in a classy place like this, one should be able to trust that ALL girls meet a minimum standard. But hey maybe that's just me?
Anyway, the girls took command and certainly knew what they wanted to do, and so we could just sit back and enjoy it. And I have to say that Cookie was amazing with huge energy and great personality. She put on a strap on and fucked my girlfriend until she came so that was fun to watch. And we did lots of other stuff, and in summary I have to say that we had a great time there.
We would recommend anyone to go there, but also to check which of the girls have had babies and which had not. I am sure John would have given us this info if we had asked. We just didn't think about it. Having said that, if tits are not that important then Cookie is probably one of their best performers so.
We also went to some gogo bars, to see if we would fid something that we both liked.
The Windmill was great fun but no good looking girls. We went to some other clubs and were disappointed with the quality, but at Moon we found this really high class girl with a wonderful body. Turned out her barfine was 2000 since she was "special" or something, so we gave it a miss.
Overall, we felt that most of the Pattaya girls were substandard and not that good looking, and that we really would have to take some time looking around in order to find the quality we are looking for.
Most fun we had was going for oil massages with good looking girls and then paying them some extra to have sex with us. Always is more fun when it is unpredictable and challenging!
Prices; 2 girls at DD was 3800, barfines most places 600 except Moon where some of the girls (imported from Bangkok) cost 2000, oilmassage 200-300 + extra 500 for unlimited fun.
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I know this should be in the Pattaya Hotel thread but I can't find it so I'm posting here.
I'm presently staying at the Pattaya Bay Resort for 999 baht per night for a standard room with a / see, wi-fi, free breakfast, pool, gym, etc. The current promo is pay for 6 nights & get the 7th free! There was a miscommunication on the length of my stay so I might have to change hotels tomorrow morning.
[url]http://pattayabayresort.com/Rates.aspx[/url]
I found another hotel that is only 1 or 2 minute walk from Beach Road, just around the corner from Royal Garden Plaza. Pattaya Nobel Place 1 is very clean & very new. 700 to 500 baht gets you a room with a / see, private bath, lcd tv, wi-fi, safe deposit box, & refrigerator but no elevator. It might be cash only. Cheaper by the week. Because there is no elevator. 700 baht for 2nd floor & 500 baht for 5th floor, obviously NOT ADA compliant. The location is very hard to beat!
[url]http://www.pattayanobleplace.com/[/url]
Can nanyone advise me aout the situations with the floods in and around Bangkok.
I am in Pattaya, scheduled to fly fout of Bangkok at 9. 30 Saturday morning.
I have a few questions for anyone in the know.
Is it possible that the airport wil flood?
Is the highway from Pattaya to the airport safe from flooding.
Is there a rail link from Pattaya to the airport?
Is there any other form of transport from Pata to the airport which mill m ost likely be flood free?
Thanks in anticipation,
G
[QUOTE=Anders Svensson;1208298]Well following the advice earlier in this forum I took myself and my girlfriend to Devils Den during our Thailand holiday. She is very open minded and happy to try things and is OK with my being with other ladies as long as she is there with me.[/QUOTE]Great report! Many thanks for posting your expereinces.
It does beg the question: Where can one find a girlfriend like yours?
Hold on to her you are a lucky guy!
[QUOTE=James02; 1208176]Someone today who I met in a layby said Pattaya is a cheaper place for a sex tourest then Bankok.
Is this true or not[/QUOTE]No doubt about it. TRUE! Pattaya is Definitely cheaper than Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1208222]About 1/3 to 1/2 price.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
Is this place any good for a newbee
[QUOTE=James02;1208501]Thanks. Is this place any good for a newbee[/QUOTE]Pattaya is a great place for a newbee! One area where there are 30-40 thousand women available in a mix of venues.
But there is one consequence for going to Pattaya, it will be difficult once you leave to find anywhere else in the world that compares.
I met up with AMEX SPG last night to check out a few more couple go-go bars. We started at X-Zone where the drinks were 120 baht. There was a girl that could shoot darts from her pussy to pop balloons. She popped 3 balloons with 5 darts. 60% is pretty good for about 10 feet. The same girl was offering vagina fisting (put a condom over your hand) for 200 baht. I declined but on second thought I should have done it for 100 baht.
I was pretty tired & don't even remember the second place but I think the drink was 95 baht. The third gogo was Moon. There were pretty girls & decent shows. I think a drink was 120 baht. All these places do not have a cover charge and there are drink specials around 100 baht.
Thanks again AMEX SPG! You are an encyclopedia of detailed Pattaya information!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1208509]But there is one consequence for going to Pattaya, it will be difficult once you leave to find anywhere else in the world that compares.[/QUOTE]Great party town as well. Hitched up with a bunch of Aussie revelers last night and boy, am I suffering now. Had my beer goggles on as well, and woke up this morning with the creature from the black lagoon. Aaargh!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1208580]Great party town as well. Hitched up with a bunch of Aussie revelers last night and boy, am I suffering now. Had my beer goggles on as well, and woke up this morning with the creature from the black lagoon. Aaargh![/QUOTE]I didn't know my ex-wife was in Pattaya. Glad you enjoyed.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1208558]I met up with AMEX SPG last night to check out a few more couple go-go bars. We started at X-Zone where the drinks were 120 baht. There was a girl that could shoot darts from her pussy to pop balloons. She popped 3 balloons with 5 darts. 60% is pretty good for about 10 feet. The same girl was offering vagina fisting (put a condom over your hand) for 200 baht. I declined but on second thought I should have done it for 100 baht.
I was pretty tired & don't even remember the second place but I think the drink was 95 baht. The third gogo was Moon. There were pretty girls & decent shows. I think a drink was 120 baht. All these places do not have a cover charge and there are drink specials around 100 baht.
Thanks again AMEX SPG! You are an encyclopedia of detailed Pattaya information![/QUOTE]Have you actually gotten any pussy while you have been there? So far you have reported about turning down a BBBJ, FS, and some other activities.
But, you seem really excited about where you drank and ate. Why are you there?
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1208509]Pattaya is a great place for a newbee! One area where there are 30-40 thousand women available in a mix of venues.[/QUOTE]Good
And thanks for the reply.
A guy in a layby the other day told me that you can cross border from Pattaya to Cambodia in a taxi with a visa for about 30. 60 quid?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1208904]Have you actually gotten any pussy while you have been there? So far you have reported about turning down a BBBJ, FS, and some other activities.
But, you seem really excited about where you drank and ate. Why are you there?[/QUOTE]I have turned down BBBJ & FS at a Thai massage but have since accepted both at MP on Soi Post Office. Price was 300 & 500 tip to the girl + 200/300 for the massage to the shop (the girl gets 80/110 baht of this).
Also nightly service from 1 or 2 anal girls on Beach Road for 500 to 800 for ST.
BTW, I strongly recommend my hotel / guest house due to location and more importantly, the reception closes at 7 or 8 pm so you are free to take as many guests as you want to your room. Secured entrance using a key card so there is no limit to how many or how often guests come at night. No "walk of shame" as they simply let themselves out (you do not have to walk them out). It may not be important to others but the shower has the most water pressure that I have ever encountered in Thailand! I really like a strong shower with unlimited hot water due to the in-line water heater with temp control. Rooms are 500 to 700 baht.
[url]http://www.pattayanobleplace.com/[/url]
I found 23 yo Nam accross from Mike Shopping Mall on Beach Road. She asked for 500 baht for ST. I asked for anal. She agreed to 700 baht for anal "if you not too big". I guess I wasn't too big or she wasn't too small. I tipped 200 baht for x-long session & pictures. Maybe too much tip but it was great fun. WARNING: SOME PICTURES ARE VERY GRAPHIC!
I don't remember her name or face but this 25 yo FL mom found on Beach Road was ok for 500 baht ST with 100 baht tip for pictures 2 nights ago.
S808,
A clarification on your massage on Soi Post Office?
Price was 300&500 to the girl =800 baht. 200/300 baht to the shop? I'm confused as to what you actually paid? Can I assume you paid 800 for FS? or did you go several times and got serviced one at 300 baht and another time for 500 baht. Then 200/300, 80/110? what is all this /////////// stuff?
Thanks, LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1209035]S808,
A clarification on your massage on Soi Post Office?
Price was 300&500 to the girl =800 baht. 200/300 baht to the shop? I'm confused as to what you actually paid? Can I assume you paid 800 for FS? Or did you go several times and got serviced one at 300 baht and another time for 500 baht. Then 200/300, 80/110? What is all this / stuff?
Thanks, LBM[/QUOTE]
Thai Massage is 200 baht for 1 hour paid to the shop of which the girl gets 80 baht. Oil massage is 300 baht for 1 hour paid to the shop of which the girl gets 110 baht. I always tip 100 baht just for massage with no extra services if the massage is satisfactory. (Yes, I know that I do not tip 50% at home in the USA.) A few days ago I tipped 300 baht for BBBJ. A couple days ago I tipped 500 baht for FS. Tonight I tipped 200 baht for some breast fondling and some HJ (not to completion).
I get a massage daily, sometimes twice in one day. All tipping is at my discretion, not mandatory. Am I tipping too much & blowing the deal for everybody?
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1208914]BTW, I strongly recommend my hotel / guest house due to location and more importantly, the reception closes at 7 or 8 pm so you are free to take as many guests as you want to your room. Secured entrance using a key card so there is no limit to how many or how often guests come at night. No "walk of shame" as they simply let themselves out (you do not have to walk them out). Rooms are 500 to 700 baht.
[url]http://www.pattayanobleplace.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Nice reports man and thanks for the info.
Everyone has their own preferences but I would try to avoid a hotel like the one above. For me a 24/7 reception staff and I'd check means my safety and less chance of being drugged / mugged in my room.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1208914]BTW, I strongly recommend my hotel / guest house due to location and more importantly, the reception closes at 7 or 8 pm so you are free to take as many guests as you want to your room. Secured entrance using a key card so there is no limit to how many or how often guests come at night. No "walk of shame" as they simply let themselves out (you do not have to walk them out). It may not be important to others but the shower has the most water pressure that I have ever encountered in Thailand! I really like a strong shower with unlimited hot water due to the in-line water heater with temp control. Rooms are 500 to 700 baht.
[url]http://www.pattayanobleplace.com/[/url][/QUOTE]There are 3 Noble Places. Which one do you use?
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1209015]I found 23 yo Nam accross from Mike Shopping Mall on Beach Road. She asked for 500 baht for ST. I asked for anal. She agreed to 700 baht for anal "if you not too big". I guess I wasn't too big or she wasn't too small. I tipped 200 baht for x-long session & pictures. Maybe too much tip but it was great fun. WARNING: SOME PICTURES ARE VERY GRAPHIC![/QUOTE]AWESOME. I am glad you are having a good time!
I'm intreated in travaling to Pattya for the first time.
I would like to get a girl for the whole night every night rely.
What is the going rate there for a whole night.
Thanks,
James02
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1209122]Thai Massage is 200 baht for 1 hour paid to the shop of which the girl gets 80 baht. Oil massage is 300 baht for 1 hour paid to the shop of which the girl gets 110 baht. I always tip 100 baht just for massage with no extra services if the massage is satisfactory. (Yes, I know that I do not tip 50% at home in the USA.) A few days ago I tipped 300 baht for BBBJ. A couple days ago I tipped 500 baht for FS. Tonight I tipped 200 baht for some breast fondling and some HJ (not to completion).
I get a massage daily, sometimes twice in one day. All tipping is at my discretion, not mandatory. Am I tipping too much & blowing the deal for everybody?[/QUOTE]I got my clarification thanks, not complaining about what you are paying or tipping.
LBM
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1209015]I found 23 yo Nam accross from Mike Shopping Mall on Beach Road. She asked for 500 baht for ST. I asked for anal. She agreed to 700 baht for anal "if you not too big". I guess I wasn't too big or she wasn't too small. I tipped 200 baht for x-long session & pictures. Maybe too much tip but it was great fun. WARNING: SOME PICTURES ARE VERY GRAPHIC![/QUOTE]If I may make a recommendation to you and others engaging in anal, protected or not. In the close-up of her sphincter, there's blood trickling out from where the skin was broken. Alot, if not most, guys who do anal will just put on a bit of lube to their tip and shove it in. This is NOT the safest way for you or the girl. As seen in that pic.
For your own safety, if nothing else (especially when barebacking) , lube up a finger or two and gently warm up her anal hole with a few penetrations. It'll loosen the area and allow the cock to slide in much easier, with less / no pain to her or bleeding from her skin being torn. Just a tip, as I personally don't like to see someone bleeding from anal sex. Though some here may find it a turn on.
[QUOTE=Bobbysays; 1209175]Nice reports man and thanks for the info.
Everyone has their own preferences but I would try to avoid a hotel like the one above. For me a 24/7 reception staff and I'd check means my safety and less chance of being drugged / mugged in my room.[/QUOTE]Too true Bobby, especially in a place like Pattaya these occurrences seem to happen with some frequency with certain providers.
[QUOTE=Cooper69;1209196]There are 3 Noble Places. Which one do you use?[/QUOTE]I'm staying at Pattaya Noble Place 1. It's on middle of Post Office Soi, aka Soi Yamato, beside newpaper shop and opposite Medical Clinic & 2 MP.
[QUOTE=Johnny Maldiva; 1209259]If I may make a recommendation to you and others engaging in anal, protected or not. In the close-up of her sphincter, there's blood trickling out from where the skin was broken. Alot, if not most, guys who do anal will just put on a bit of lube to their tip and shove it in. This is NOT the safest way for you or the girl. As seen in that pic.
For your own safety, if nothing else (especially when barebacking) , lube up a finger or two and gently warm up her anal hole with a few penetrations. It'll loosen the area and allow the cock to slide in much easier, with less / no pain to her or bleeding from her skin being torn. Just a tip, as I personally don't like to see someone bleeding from anal sex. Though some here may find it a turn on.[/QUOTE]I'm not being a wiseass but my dick is longer than my fingers. I just give the girl the tube of KY & have her lube up her own ass. I figure it's her job, not mine.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1209291]I'm not being a wiseass but my dick is longer than my fingers. I just give the girl the tube of KY & have her lube up her own ass. I figure it's her job, not mine.[/QUOTE]Seems like there are a lot of asses out there! ;)
[QUOTE=Bobbysays; 1209175]Nice reports man and thanks for the info.
Everyone has their own preferences but I would try to avoid a hotel like the one above. For me a 24/7 reception staff and ID check means my safety and less chance of being drugged / mugged in my room.[/QUOTE]With all due respect to you & others, our activity is inherently risky as we are inviting people we have just met into our room, probably late at night, and giving them money! Has anyone actually checked the ID card that our guests give to the reception to make sure that it is, in fact, the person we are inviting, not a borrowed, stolen, or fake ID? Personally, I do not do LT as I cannot sleep well in a hotel bed, much less with a new "friend". Yes, "everyone has their own preferences" but I don't think a receptionist several floors away can save us from being ripped off.
Common sense will save us more than a security guard sitting (or sleeping) in the parking lot. Take only what you need when you go out & put all your valuables in the safe. I usually need to get money from my safe to pay my guest and do it while she is in the shower.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1209295]Has anyone actually checked the I'd card that our guests give to the reception to make sure that it is, in fact, the person we are inviting, not a borrowed, stolen, or fake I'd?
I don't think a receptionist several floors away can save us from being ripped off.[/QUOTE]The main reason why I like to have security available in the hotel is when you get psycho freelancers. Although this has only occurred twice in the past 15 years.
You need local back-up when the psycho FL demands $100 extra.
Any experience of filming the girl at your hotel while having sex? How much do they generally demand for letting you film them?
When doing LT with a bar girl I generally pay her 1 000 baht. But say you want to hang out with her during the following day. More or less till her shift at the bar starts. How much do you usually pay extra?
If I would like to lift some weights, what good gyms are there in Central Pattaya, say around Central Festival and Mike Shopping Mall?
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1209412]Any experience of filming the girl at your hotel while having sex? How much do they generally demand for letting you film them?[/QUOTE]Generally, nothing. However, if you film the go-go girls outside their bar, you'll not receive a warm welcome! Go figure.
Hundreds of experiences videotaping a sex session in multiple countries. Don't ever pay an extra bhat for pics or video, simply be clear the moment you pick up a girl that you are going to take pics / video as part of the deal. I never used to bother with pre-negotiation until a couple years ago, until Internet / Facebook / Asian porn site, etc. Prevalence became a factor. Just make clear what you want. If she says no, then move on. If she says she is worried about the Internet, just say it is for "personal use" and that you would never show anything on the Internet. If you get her back to the room and she all of a sudden becomes shy at the sight of the camera, kick her out on the spot (9/10 she will get her memory back about what was agreed). Enjoy, AsianRain.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1209412]Any experience of filming the girl at your hotel while having sex? How much do they generally demand for letting you film them?[/QUOTE]
I think that Devil's Den might be changing into a software development consultancy.
Either that or the ladies are all studying for some computer science or business administration degree.
They have at least 6 laptops going outside every time I go by.
Impressive!
[QUOTE=Rocksoff; 1209575]I think that Devil's Den might be changing into a software development consultancy.
Either that or the ladies are all studying for some computer science or business administration degree.
They have at least 6 laptops going outside every time I go by.
Impressive![/QUOTE]My assumption on that is that they are posting on the dating sites, communicating with friends / BF / family, or just killing time.
Hell, they may even be looking at this site.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1209415]When doing LT with a bar girl I generally pay her 1 000 baht. But say you want to hang out with her during the following day. More or less till her shift at the bar starts. How much do you usually pay extra?[/QUOTE]So is LT (long time) a full night?
Is 1000 baht the going rate?
Thats 20 quid, sounds OK
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1209418]If I would like to lift some weights, what good gyms are there in Central Pattaya, say around Central Festival and Mike Shopping Mall?[/QUOTE]I'm planning to go to a gym soon too. I found these two that are close to my hotel:
California WOW in the Avenue (shopping mall) on 2nd Road in Pattaya.
[url]http://www.californiawowx.com/Clubs/PTY.php[/url]
Tony's Pattaya off Walking Street.
[url]http://www.tonydisco.com/html/life_fitness1/Facilties0-new.html[/url]
Has anyone tried the Devil's Den VIP full service bus and if so what did you think? It's always been tempting, but I'm curious what other people think of the value at 14, 000 to 18, 000 baht.
[QUOTE=James02; 1209227]I'm intreated in travaling to Pattya for the first time.
I would like to get a girl for the whole night every night rely.
What is the going rate there for a whole night.
Thanks,
James02[/QUOTE]When I was there earlier this year, March to April, Soi six girls were charging 1500 baht for all night. I just read someone's post here recently that said he pays beer bar girls 1000 baht for all night. I know go go girls and girls who deem themselves worth more will charge more, so it kind of varies. Overnight with a Devil's Den girl is 3500 baht. Not sure what you're average beach road freelancer charges.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1209418]If I would like to lift some weights, what good gyms are there in Central Pattaya, say around Central Festival and Mike Shopping Mall?[/QUOTE]If you walk up Soi Diana to the Soi Buakhao and turn right, ask someone like the corner motorbike taxi driver, there is Tony gym. If you walk up Soi Lengkee to 3rd Road there is another Tony gym on 3rd Road. For the largest Tony it is near the corner of Pattaya Tai and 3rd Road.
LBM
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1209415]When doing LT with a bar girl I generally pay her 1 000 baht. But say you want to hang out with her during the following day. More or less till her shift at the bar starts. How much do you usually pay extra?[/QUOTE]Kept a couple of sweeties for more than a week each, bar girls from Walking Street, they were happy with 1, 000 a day with meals, tipped a couple hundred a day
[QUOTE=Rocksoff; 1209575]I think that Devil's Den might be changing into a software development consultancy.
Either that or the ladies are all studying for some computer science or business administration degree.
They have at least 6 laptops going outside every time I go by.
Impressive![/QUOTE]Hey you have to applauded them, they want to move up the food chain. You can not be using your bollo (Pussy) your whole life to put food on table. I will stop there tonight.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1209601]My assumption on that is that they are posting on the dating sites, communicating with friends / BF / family, or just killing time.
Hell, they may even be looking at this site.[/QUOTE]That is certainly more likely.
It just tickled me that the porch area of Devil's Den was the largest concentration of laptop users that I've yet seen in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1209655]If you walk up Soi Diana to the Soi Buakhao and turn right, ask someone like the corner motorbike taxi driver, there is Tony gym. If you walk up Soi Lengkee to 3rd Road there is another Tony gym on 3rd Road. For the largest Tony it is near the corner of Pattaya Tai and 3rd Road.
LBM[/QUOTE]I'll definitely have to check that place out. Plan to visit Pattaya next month. I love to lift weights & am rather fond of little Asian hotties as well. I figure that Tony's Gym will have an ample supply of both.
- DSK
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick; 1209697]I'll definitely have to check that place out. Plan to visit Pattaya next month. I love to lift weights & am rather fond of little Asian hotties as well. I figure that Tony's Gym will have an ample supply of both.
- DSK[/QUOTE]If you are looking for Asian Hotties? My opinion you won't find them so much at Tony's but more at their main facility on Pattaya Thai and 3rd road. That facility has more to do than just lifting weights. You might find them also at California Wow.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1209769]If you are looking for Asian Hotties? My opinion you won't find them so much at Tony's but more at their main facility on Pattaya Thai and 3rd road. That facility has more to do than just lifting weights. You might find them also at California Wow.[/QUOTE]You can find Asian hotties with little bodys freelancing down walking street.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1209655]If you walk up Soi Diana to the Soi Buakhao and turn right, ask someone like the corner motorbike taxi driver, there is Tony gym. If you walk up Soi Lengkee to 3rd Road there is another Tony gym on 3rd Road.[/QUOTE]Last I looked, the Tony on 3rd Road near the end of Soi Lengkii has been torn down. The one on Buakhao is so tiny and cramped as to be almost useless. But yes, the big one near 3rd Road and Pattaya Tai is good, and sometimes has some nice babes working out. Plenty of babes at California Wow but I really can't recommend it. Sleazy, high-pressure sales operation.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1209769]If you are looking for Asian Hotties? My opinion you won't find them so much at Tony's but more at their main facility on Pattaya Thai and 3rd road. That facility has more to do than just lifting weights. You might find them also at California Wow.[/QUOTE]The last time I visited Bangkok I used California Wow and it was pretty good. This was about 4 years ago and it has been even longer since I've been to Pattaya, so it will be interesting to see how things have changed. I go to Europe & South America a lot so I'm used to spending much more for carnal delights. The Devil's Den didn't exist last time I was in Pattaya so I look forward to checking it out. Sounds like my kind of place.
Yeh, I think I'll check out the Tony's on 3rd. Seems like it's located close to where I'll be staying .... along with other notable venues.
- DSK
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1209655]If you walk up Soi Diana to the Soi Buakhao and turn right, ask someone like the corner motorbike taxi driver, there is Tony gym. If you walk up Soi Lengkee to 3rd Road there is another Tony gym on 3rd Road. For the largest Tony it is near the corner of Pattaya Tai and 3rd Road.
LBM[/QUOTE]The Tony Gym at 3rd Road past Soi Diana is gone! I went there today to find Tony's Japanese Spa but it is just a vacant lot now. I really wanted to try the Japanese Spa with their jacuzzi & body scrub treatments.
The largest Tony Gym near the corner of Pattaya Tai and 3rd Road is there. The day pass is 220 baht. There are lots of weights, cardio machines, tennis court, relax areas, sauna, steam, large swimming pool, small cool water & warm water pools. By the time I found this place I was too tired to work out!
[url]http://www.tonydisco.com/html/fitness/LOCATION.html[/url]
I'll just use the gym close to walking street tomorrow:
[url]http://www.tonydisco.com/html/life_fitness1/welcome.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Rocksoff; 1209575]I think that Devil's Den might be changing into a software development consultancy.
Either that or the ladies are all studying for some computer science or business administration degree.
They have at least 6 laptops going outside every time I go by.
Impressive![/QUOTE]At 3pm today they are just eating & doing their makeup.
S808,
Sorry I sent you on a wild goose chase! But just to show you need to work more on your cardio?
LBM
[QUOTE=James02; 1209620]So is LT (long time) a full night?
Is 1000 baht the going rate?[/QUOTE]Yes, and yes.
Thanks for all answers about gyms in Central Pattaya. Tony's Gym seems the best:
[url]http://www.tonydisco.com/html/gym_new3/gmy_Welcome.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Betong;1209794]Last I looked, the Tony on 3rd Road near the end of Soi Lengkii has been torn down.[/QUOTE]That's weird, because it is there on their website: [url]http://www.tonydisco.com/html/gym_new3/gmy_Location.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1209902]That's weird, because it is there on their website:
[url]http://www.tonydisco.com/html/gym_new3/gmy_Location.html[/url][/QUOTE]A website that has not been updated? I guarantee that the Tony Gym & Japanese Spa are no longer there. The larger Tony complex is about 1 km, 30 baht by mototaxi, down the street in the direction of Walking Street.
I ended up not working out but found this 21 year old 3 hole provider on my way back to the hotel along Beach Road. She asked 500 ST FS, 1000 ST Anal. I offered 700 anal & finally agreed on 800. After 1/2 hour+ of ass stretching, I was eager to take some good pictures but she said "no pictures my ass. My face ok." What? Face ok but not ass? I offered 100 baht tip but the answer was still no. Too bad.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1210006]A website that has not been updated? I guarantee that the Tony Gym & Japanese Spa are no longer there. The larger Tony complex is about 1 km. 30 baht by mototaxi, down the street in the direction of Walking Street.
I ended up not working out but found this 21 year old 3 hole provider on my way back to the hotel along Beach Road. She asked 500 ST FS. 1000 ST Anal. I offered 700 anal & finally agreed on 800. After 1/2 hour+ of ass stretching, I was eager to take some good pictures but she said "no pictures my ass. My face ok." What? Face ok but not ass? I offered 100 baht tip but the answer was still no. Too bad.[/QUOTE]Looks like she would be tight! You bought her Heineken? Classy dude.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1210006]A website that has not been updated? I guarantee that the Tony Gym & Japanese Spa are no longer there. The larger Tony complex is about 1 km, 30 baht by mototaxi, down the street in the direction of Walking Street.[/QUOTE]The last time that I went to the Tony's gym was in 2009, and at that time it was on Soi 16 just off Walking St. They have an OK selection of Lifecycles and eliptical machines for cardio, plenty of free weights, and decent weight machines as well. At that time the weekly rate was slightly better than the daily rate, provided that you went every day. The staff at the front desk was somewhat dodgy and not very friendly at the time. There was more than one occassion when I paid the entry fee and they told me to start the workout and promised to bring the change later, but practically everytime I had to remind them that I still had some change coming. Not many babes frequented the gym at that time, but things may have changed since 2009.
Raz
On the GymVisit website they have a listing for Universe Gym, I think that is the gym I used during my previous visits to Pattaya. It was a good place for "Meat Heads" like me so I'll be sure to check it out.
Of course I plan to spend plenty of time diving into Asian muffs. But still have to get pumped up (in a different way) a few times while in town. Might check out the Euro Babes at the Polo Entertainment Complex. I love them Russian gals. Sure it's the LOS but variety is the spice of life. No?
- DSK
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1210035]Looks like she would be tight![/QUOTE]It's all relative, of course. :)
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1209686]It just tickled me that the porch area of Devil's Den was the largest concentration of laptop users that I've yet seen in Pattaya.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sushilover808;1209819]At 3pm today they are just eating & doing their makeup.[/QUOTE]I have to confirm that I have often seen them with numerous laptops out when I drive by. Of course a laptop is an insignificant cost to most working girls at the medium to higher level, and the skill to use it is nearly universal in Thai society.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1210006]I ended up not working out but found this 21 year old 3 hole provider on my way back to the hotel along Beach Road. She asked 500 ST FS, 1000 ST Anal. I offered 700 anal & finally agreed on 800. After 1/2 hour+ of ass stretching, I was eager to take some good pictures but she said "no pictures my ass. My face ok." What? Face ok but not ass? I offered 100 baht tip but the answer was still no. Too bad.[/QUOTE]I will be back in Pattaya in 2 weeks. I'd be interested in knowing where on Beach Road you found this one, and her name.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Striker34; 1210180]I will be back in Pattaya in 2 weeks. I'd be interested in knowing where on Beach Road you found this one, and her name.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Nan can be found on Beach Road & Soi 10. She was there tonight.
The girls at the massage place on Soi Post Office invited me to have some drinks with them tonight. They broke out a bottle of local VSOP whiskey. After about 4 shots in a little more than 1/2 an hour, I was ready to go. I bought them a new bottle to replace what I drank (only 455 baht for 750 ml from Family Mart) and was off to Beach Road to find some fun. After only a short walk I found this 3 hole who agreed on 700 baht. I realized my mistake when I got back to my well lit hotel room. I sent her on her way without finishing. Learn from my mistake. Don't shop drunk in the dark!
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1210267]The girls at the massage place on Soi Post Office invited me to have some drinks with them tonight. They broke out a bottle of local VSOP whiskey. After about 4 shots in a little more than 1/2 an hour, I was ready to go. I bought them a new bottle to replace what I drank (only 455 baht for 750 ml from Family Mart) and was off to Beach Road to find some fun. After only a short walk I found this 3 hole who agreed on 700 baht. I realized my mistake when I got back to my well lit hotel room. I sent her on her way without finishing. Learn from my mistake. Don't shop drunk in the dark![/QUOTE]HUH. She doesn't look that terrible for 700 / I might fuck her. But, I am still trying to figure out what I am looking at. There is something odd about the area between her pussy and AH. What am I seeing? Post Op?
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1209015]I found 23 yo Nam accross from Mike Shopping Mall on Beach Road. She asked for 500 baht for ST. I asked for anal. She agreed to 700 baht for anal "if you not too big". I guess I wasn't too big or she wasn't too small. I tipped 200 baht for x-long session & pictures. Maybe too much tip but it was great fun. WARNING: SOME PICTURES ARE VERY GRAPHIC![/QUOTE]
Congratulations. These pics are really ugly. :(
I think it's safe to assume that you weren't her first anal!
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1210260]Nan can be found on Beach Road & Soi 10. She was there tonight.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1210267]The girls at the massage place on Soi Post Office invited me to have some drinks with them tonight. They broke out a bottle of local VSOP whiskey. After about 4 shots in a little more than 1/2 an hour, I was ready to go. I bought them a new bottle to replace what I drank (only 455 baht for 750 ml from Family Mart) and was off to Beach Road to find some fun. After only a short walk I found this 3 hole who agreed on 700 baht. I realized my mistake when I got back to my well lit hotel room. I sent her on her way without finishing. Learn from my mistake. Don't shop drunk in the dark![/QUOTE]I have to look up guide. Net at work, so thanks for putting things on there that could get me banned from using the internet if they check up.
I found this 26 year old girl on the way to the bank this morning around 11 AM. She agreed to ST Anal for 700 baht. While I was changing money at the bank on the ground floor of Royal Garden Plaza she went to 7-11 to buy me a disposable cold towel on her dime. Hmmmm. That was a first for me. (FYI the bank charges 33 baht commission to cash a $100 American Express Travelers Check. I think this is standard as I have checked 3 places.)
Back at my hotel in a few minutes. Great BBBJ & anal! She really took it like a champ! Finished in a little more than 1/2 hour. After a break, I was horny again & wanted a second round. She said,"no ass honey. You break my ass. Pussy ok. 300 more ok?" So I f'ed her pussy for a long time but could not finish. (I paid a total of 1000 baht)
It was almost 2 pm so I invited her to lunch at Red Kim Chee on the ground floor of Royal Garden Plaza. It is only 299 baht for all-you-can-eat yakiniku / sushi / salad / dessert including soft drink. From 2 to 4 pm there is a 15% discount making it only 255 baht pp. I was so full that I just wanted to nap. She came back to my hotel & slept the day away. I slept from 3 pm to about 7 pm. Now it is just after 8 pm & she is still sleeping! I'm wondering if I should kick her out or what. Hmmmmmmmmm.
BTW, the weather is great here in Pattaya. Sunny all day today. In the last few days it may have just rained for 10 minutes. Apologies, I don't know why the pictures upload out of order.
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1209644]When I was there earlier this year, March to April, Soi six girls were charging 1500 baht for all night. I just read someone's post here recently that said he pays beer bar girls 1000 baht for all night. I know go go girls and girls who deem themselves worth more will charge more, so it kind of varies. Overnight with a Devil's Den girl is 3500 baht. Not sure what you're average beach road freelancer charges.[/QUOTE]Beach Road freelancer 500 ST or 1000 LT (all night). They are just happy to be in an airconditioned room, TV, Shower, etc. And as the bonus. Sex and 1000 baht.
I found 20 year old Bebe on Beach Road accross Royal Garden Plaza. She asked for 700 for ST. I ususlly and should have taked her down to 500 but it was my first tongue piercing and I thought all would go well. BBBJ with her piercing was great! The pierced tongue really made a difference. Intercourse was another story. She was very small & then couldn't take it deep. After about 15 minutes of shallow fucking, I knew I wasn't going to finish so I said,"enought, thanks. Photos then finished,"
Sigh, I guess they all cant be great........
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1211005]I found 20 year old Bebe on Beach Road accross Royal Garden Plaza. She asked for 700 for ST. I ususlly and should have taked her down to 500 but it was my first tongue piercing and I thought all would go well. BBBJ with her piercing was great! The pierced tongue really made a difference. Intercourse was another story. She was very small & then couldn't take it deep. After about 15 minutes of shallow fucking, I knew I wasn't going to finish so I said,"enought, thanks. .[/QUOTE]Huh? Enough? Why didn't you finish on the tongue ring man?
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1210546]I found this 26 year old girl on the way to the bank this morning around 11 AM. She agreed to ST Anal for 700 baht. While I was changing money at the bank on the ground floor of Royal Garden Plaza she went to 7-11 to buy me a disposable cold towel on her dime. Hmmmm. That was a first for me. (FYI the bank charges 33 baht commission to cash a $100 American Express Travelers Check. I think this is standard as I have checked 3 places.)
Back at my hotel in a few minutes. Great BBBJ & anal! She really took it like a champ! Finished in a little more than 1/2 hour. After a break, I was horny again & wanted a second round. She said,"no ass honey. You break my ass. Pussy ok. 300 more ok?" So I f'ed her pussy for a long time but could not finish. (I paid a total of 1000 baht)
It was almost 2 pm so I invited her to lunch at Red Kim Chee on the ground floor of Royal Garden Plaza. It is only 299 baht for all-you-can-eat yakiniku / sushi / salad / dessert including soft drink. From 2 to 4 pm there is a 15% discount making it only 255 baht pp. I was so full that I just wanted to nap. She came back to my hotel & slept the day away. I slept from 3 pm to about 7 pm. Now it is just after 8 pm & she is still sleeping! I'm wondering if I should kick her out or what. Hmmmmmmmmm.
BTW, the weather is great here in Pattaya. Sunny all day today. In the last few days it may have just rained for 10 minutes. Apologies, I don't know why the pictures upload out of order.[/QUOTE]That looks like shabu shabu to me. Maybe the restaurant got their pics mixed up? Haha.
Great pics and informative post. I myself am more of a massage with extras kinda guy. Not too long until my own trip.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1211005]I found 20 year old Bebe on Beach Road accross Royal Garden Plaza. She asked for 700 for ST. I ususlly and should have taked her down to 500 but it was my first tongue piercing and I thought all would go well. BBBJ with her piercing was great! The pierced tongue really made a difference. Intercourse was another story. She was very small & then couldn't take it deep. After about 15 minutes of shallow fucking, I knew I wasn't going to finish so I said,"enought, thanks. Photos then finished,"
Sigh, I guess they all can't be great.[/QUOTE]Get some lube and open / stretch that sucker out. You will be doing the next guy a favor.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1211015]Huh? Enough? Why didn't you finish on the tongue ring man?[/QUOTE]BJ was very nice but far from completion. Her pussy was tiny & she couldn't take it deep. She wouldn't put her legs up, saying "dep" which I guess is pain.
This is why I prefer them a little older & experienced not young & inexperienced.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1211064]Get some lube and open / stretch that sucker out. You will be doing the next guy a favor.[/QUOTE]She didn't need lube because she was dripping wet. Just tiny pussy. PM me for her number & stretch her out!
BTW here are 2 pictures of the girl that slept in my room from 4:30 to almost 9 after 2 sessions.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1211114]BJ was very nice but far from completion. Her pussy was tiny & she couldn't take it deep. She wouldn't put her legs up, saying "dep" which I guess is pain.[/QUOTE]See how easy it is to learn Thai! Jep = Hurt. You know what I would have told her though: Good thing your mouth doesn't hurt!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1211064]Get some lube and open / stretch that sucker out. You will be doing the next guy a favor.[/QUOTE]There appears to be a small tear. She did have a tiny pussy but I didn't know that I (or someone else) recently ripped her. Too bad for me. Better for the next guy.
[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1211056]That looks like shabu shabu to me. Maybe the restaurant got their pics mixed up? Haha.
Great pics and informative post. I myself am more of a massage with extras kinda guy. Not too long until my own trip.[/QUOTE]For massage with extras, I recommend HAPPY MASSAGE on Soi Post Office just around the corner from Royal Garden Plaza, Pizza Hut is on the corner (1 minute walk from pizza hut on the left just past the post office). Ask for April & tell her what you want. She will tell you the price. If she asks, tell her your friend from Hawaii told you to see her. 200 baht buys you a 1 hour full body thai or foot massage. Extra services negotiable.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1211005]I found 20 year old Bebe on Beach Road accross Royal Garden Plaza. She asked for 700 for ST. I ususlly and should have taked her down to 500 but it was my first tongue piercing and I thought all would go well. BBBJ with her piercing was great! The pierced tongue really made a difference. Intercourse was another story. She was very small & then couldn't take it deep. After about 15 minutes of shallow fucking, I knew I wasn't going to finish so I said,"enought, thanks. Photos then finished,"Sigh, I guess they all cant be great.[/QUOTE]Sushilover.
I have to commend you on a job well done of reporting and posting pictures to boot. Sometimes we have too much pissing and moaning on the Pattaya board, you are giving me hope that there are some good posters still in the forum.
BTW, Mr. E would have wanted you to blast that one girl's tongue pierce, but I thought you should have blasted those cute braces instead! See you soon Mr. E.
Please keep up the good work Sushilover!
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1211005]I found 20 year old Bebe on Beach Road accross Royal Garden Plaza. She asked for 700 for ST. I ususlly and should have taked her down to 500 but it was my first tongue piercing and I thought all would go well. BBBJ with her piercing was great! The pierced tongue really made a difference. Intercourse was another story. She was very small & then couldn't take it deep. After about 15 minutes of shallow fucking, I knew I wasn't going to finish so I said,"enought, thanks. Photos then finished,"
Sigh, I guess they all can't be great.[/QUOTE]Sushilover, thanks for all the great reports and pics! You're restoring my confidence in beach road. My last Thailand trip I learned the hard way that you can spend a whole lot of money in Pattaya if you are not smart with it. I checked out beach road a couple times, but didn't see many girls. I probably went at the wrong time or whatever. At these prices, I'll be sure to check it out more thoroughly next visit. In your opinion, what time of day offers the best selection?
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1211151]Sushilover.
I have to commend you on a job well done of reporting and posting pictures to boot. Sometimes we have too much pissing and moaning on the Pattaya board, you are giving me hope that there are some good posters still in the forum.
BTW, Mr. E would have wanted you to blast that one girl's tongue pierce, but I thought you should have blasted those cute braces instead! See you soon Mr. E.
Please keep up the good work Sushilover![/QUOTE]Tomjackin, Great Ass in that attached picture! Does she do anal? If so, can you PM me her number?
Tonight is my last night in Pattaya. I'm flying home Saturday morning. Is anyone else going to the airport on Saturday morning? PM if you want to share a taxi to the airport.
I have 4 phone numbers of girls in their 20s (pictures posted on earlier posts) that I'm willing to provide to any Senior Member via PM. These pics are a couple very friendly massage girls. The girl eating the bug is Dai, she is 19 years old & used to be a bartender.
Aloha, sl
[url]http://flood.longdo.com/?lang=en[/url]
According to this map (that Giotto kindly posted) , the road from the airport to Pattaya seems to be under serious threat from floodwaters.
Are the green, yellow and red lines barriers?
Even if the airport is safeguarded, getting there and out of there seems rather risky at the moment, right?
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1211174][url]http://flood.longdo.com/?lang=en[/url]
According to this map (that Giotto kindly posted) , the road from the airport to Pattaya seems to be under serious threat from floodwaters.
Are the green, yellow and red lines barriers?
Even if the airport is safeguarded, getting there and out of there seems rather risky at the moment, right?[/QUOTE]I changed my taxi from 9 am to 8 am to be on the safe side. I will report on travel time & conditions once I arrive at the airport.
After last night's disappointing service, I called Nam, the 25 year old anal provider for some afternoon room service. Not quite room service as I had to walk to the corner to meet her but satisfactory. She asked for 800 baht because she had to pay her taxi to & from my hotel. BBBJ, looooong & deep anal service as in the past. PM if you want to order room servive too.
I enjoyed her english, "oooh, my ass is so spicy!" She probably means burning feeling but it made me smile.
Pattaya,
The last few days you can see the volume vehicles coming from Bangkok to stay with family or in the hotel, resorts and apartments in the Pattaya area. From morning to night on Sukhumvit, Siam country road, Pattaya Nua, Pattaya Klang, Pattaya Tai the traffic is heavy. Everywhere you go 7/11, Big C, Makro, Lotus, Tops, Food land, the selves are starting to empty and there isn't any water to be purchase.
Regarding water personally there hasn't been much flooding in Pattaya and the water sources haven't been contaminated but the locals have brought up all the water in panic! I get my water like I always from one of those street machines and have a testing device from the USA and the water properties haven't changed. The water doesn't smell and I'm not sick nor heard of anyone getting sick but water has become scarce in those bottles one would get at 7/11, but you can still get water from vendors locally.
I ran into a guy today at Big C extra off Pattaya Klang with his suitcase he seem lost so I offer my help. He said he had a reservation months ago at a small hotel but when he showed up they play dump that they didn't have a reservation. Basically from what I have heard in the last few days some hotels have given their rooms to people from Bangkok because the people have offer to pay a higher place. I was able to help the guy get a room at a more local place close to transportation.
Today I was also at Lotus north to get some KFC, when I walked in most of the items had a sign showing " out ". The impact is starting to affect Pattaya where some greedy vendors are starting to charge more to take advantage of the situation. Getting Eggs seem to be scarce too? One could usually get 36 eggs for 90 baht, today the same guy I purchased from was selling 8 eggs for 130 Baht. I just walked away?
Panic is setting in. LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1211213]Pattaya,
Panic is setting in. LBM[/QUOTE]The water problem has effected commercial outlets also, our distributor cannot get bottled water, this seems to stem from a problem with one of the bottling plants in BKK that had some pollution in its water source. Along with the people from Bangkok coming down and buying everything they can get their hands on. I talked to some people at Makro that had purchased 15 cases of MAMA-that is 450 packages-how much can a family of 4 eat?
So the hording has started, and it will only get worse.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1211213]Pattaya . Panic is setting in. LBM[/QUOTE]Interesting account. So people from Bangkok are going to Pattaya in masses? It is supposed to be low season in Pattaya now, but it seems it will be more like high season there the next couple of weeks, right?
LBM's account is confirmed elsewhere in the news. People from Bangkok are fleeing to Hua Hin and Pattaya. Roads are packed.
Hotel rooms in these resort are getting scarce and prices are going up. People are hoarding water and shelves are becoming increasingly empty in stores.
Damn, I am flying in for a longer holiday later next week. I am almost hoping things get worse so I can cancel my flight and get a refund.
[B]
More accounts from Pattaya are welcome. Is it starting to feel like high season there? [/B]
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1211263]Interesting account. So people from Bangkok are going to Pattaya in masses? It is supposed to be low season in Pattaya now, but it seems it will be more like high season there the next couple of weeks, right?[/QUOTE]Bangkok was given a holiday until Monday, that gave the Bangkok folks a chance to leave town during what they feel will be the wort time for flooding due to high tide. I drove to Bangkok on Thursday, a one hour drive took 5 hours due to people trying to leave town, the roads to Issan were packed. There are cars parked on both sides of the tollway for about 20 miles to prevent them from getting flooded.
The traffic heading to Pattaya was backed up about 25 miles, both due to people running for safe grounds and also because the tollway was free for the day.
Things should be better on Monday when the "holiday" is over.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1211114]BJ was very nice but far from completion. Her pussy was tiny & she couldn't take it deep. She wouldn't put her legs up, saying "dep" which I guess is pain.
This is why I prefer them a little older & experienced not young & inexperienced.[/QUOTE]Better to use lube. Astroglide is the best I found. For some reason it does not leave vagina all gooey like ky does. So after insertion it is like normal horny sex.
Hi,
I'm scheduled to fly in and out of BKK Suv airport Nov 18th and out Dec 1. Staying Pattaya first 6 days. Then 3 in Singapore. Final 2 days in lower Suhkumvit area of BKK.
Anyone have a feel for if there will still be problems by then? I guess I still have awhile to decide / reschedule flights. Using China Airlines into BKK. Then Asia Aor to Singapore.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Sammon;1211280]Better to use lube. Astroglide is the best I found. For some reason it does not leave vagina all gooey like ky does. So after insertion it is like normal horny sex.[/QUOTE]She didn't need lube because she was dripping wet. Just has a tiny pussy. She was ok on top (cowgirl) but could not take it deep in missionary. Feel free to PM me for her contact info, stretch her out, & report back. I'm leaving Pattaya in a few hours.
Highly recommended: The 600 baht First Class theatre at Central Festival. 6th floor. Go 1 hour early & enjoy a complementary lite buffet & iced coffee before the movie in the First Class lounge (see picture) & complementary soda & popcorn in a power reclining ultra wide seat with blanket. Kinda amusing that it was pretty much all foreign guys with young Thai girls. A real looker was giving some guy heat about how many girls he was with. Really funny!
Not recommended: Shopping on Beach Road in the dark. She is very sweet but much better with the lights off. Hotel room lights revealed stretch marks & saggy tits. I sent her home with the promised 500 baht for ST but only took a few pics for ISG.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1211382]Not recommended: Shopping on Beach Road in the dark. She is very sweet but much better with the lights off. Hotel room lights revealed stretch marks & saggy tits. I sent her home with the promised 500 baht for ST but only took a few pics for ISG.[/QUOTE]Expected to see stretch marks and saggy tits, not open pussy.
Having got that far, you only took pussy photos?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1211213]Pattaya,
The last few days you can see the volume vehicles coming from Bangkok to stay with family or in the hotel, resorts and apartments in the Pattaya area.
Panic is setting in. LBM[/QUOTE]Here are a few local news stories describing the situation:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/10/28/pattaya-rental-houses-full-as-bangkokians-escape-to-chonburi-away-from-floods/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/10/28/rush-to-evacuate-660-flood-victims-to-chonburi/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/41760/thousands-of-flood-victims-continue-to-arrive-in-pattaya/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/41654/pattaya-fills-up-as-bangkok-residents-escape-the-floods/[/url]
The car park at my condo has 8 levels. Only 3 are normally filled this time of year, but now all levels are filled to capacity and most of the condo units are occupied.
Traffic from Jomtien to Walking Street was bad last night and parking was hard to find everywhere. The go-go bars were jumping and the street was crowded. Beach Road was blocked off but I wasn't able to see why. Falang food was in good supply at the 24 hour Food Market in Jomtien.
Looks like high season has come early.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1211005]I found 20 year old Bebe on Beach Road accross Royal Garden Plaza. She asked for 700 for ST. I ususlly and should have taked her down to 500 but it was my first tongue piercing and I thought all would go well. BBBJ with her piercing was great! The pierced tongue really made a difference. Intercourse was another story. She was very small & then couldn't take it deep. After about 15 minutes of shallow fucking, I knew I wasn't going to finish so I said,"enought, thanks. Photos then finished,"
Sigh, I guess they all can't be great.[/QUOTE]You just needed to stretch her out. These ones are my favorite. I pop a viagra and go as hard as possible for 30 minutes. Just think, your doing her a service.
She won't be in pain for the next chap. (after a few days of rest)
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1211382]Highly recommended: The 600 baht First Class theatre at Central Festival. 6th floor. Go 1 hour early & enjoy a complementary lite buffet & iced coffee before the movie in the First Class lounge (see picture) & complementary soda & popcorn in a power reclining ultra wide seat with blanket. Kinda amusing that it was pretty much all foreign guys with young Thai girls. A real looker was giving some guy heat about how many girls he was with. Really funny!
Not recommended: Shopping on Beach Road in the dark. She is very sweet but much better with the lights off. Hotel room lights revealed stretch marks & saggy tits. I sent her home with the promised 500 baht for ST but only took a few pics for ISG.[/QUOTE]I like your photos so don't stop. This one though appears to need some Preparation H. Those Hemorrhoids must be painful.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1211399]Here are a few local news stories describing the situation:
Beach Road was blocked off but I wasn't able to see why.[/QUOTE]They were cleaning up all the lube that dripped off of Sushilover's girls!
;)
Easy going to the airport from Pattaya. Less than 90 minutes from hotel to airport, only lite traffic in Pattaya. 900 baht using Mr. T Taxi service. Driver was on time, very clean car, well-dressed, & polite. I tipped 100 baht. [url]http://www.paradise-pattaya.com/taxi-to-pattaya.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1211417]They were cleaning up all the lube that dripped off of Sushilover's girls![/QUOTE]Harsh but very funny! .
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1211386]Expected to see stretch marks and saggy tits, not open pussy.
Having got that far, you only took pussy photos?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately / fortunately, yes.
Since people from Bangkok are fleeing to Pattaya, I assume that there will be no flooding in Pattaya. Is this correct?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1211417]They were cleaning up all the lube that dripped off of Sushilover's girls![/QUOTE]Also harsh & not entirely true. Not my fault!
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1211320]Hi,
I'm scheduled to fly in and out of BKK Suv airport Nov 18th and out Dec 1. Staying Pattaya first 6 days. Then 3 in Singapore. Final 2 days in lower Suhkumvit area of BKK.
Anyone have a feel for if there will still be problems by then? I guess I still have awhile to decide / reschedule flights. Using China Airlines into BKK. Then Asia Aor to Singapore.
Thanks[/QUOTE]- I'm in Patts 10 Oct. 8 Nov and no flooding issues here. Bangkok is basically on holiday until at least Mon / 31 Oct. I'm starting to meet Bangkok refugees FLing on Coconut Bar / Beach Road, Insomnia, etc.
- Today SushiLover808 took a taxi from Patts to the Airport in 90 minutes and reported that there's no problem. By the way, I met up with him a couple of times during his and he's a pretty cool guy. Good luck to his worldwide mongering adventures and if he ever finds another city / country that's a better value than Patts, I hope he doesn't keep it a secret from us ISGers.
- Bangkok: I haven't been there but from what I can tell it's only certain, poor parts of Bangkok that's flooded, particularly the outskirts. The city's economic core (where the wealthy live, shop, work) ie Sukhumvit (fancy megamalls+nearby NEP, Patpong, Soi Cowboy) isn't really flooded as that would tank the Thai economy even more and the affluent would rather let the peripheral downtrodden deal with the brunt of the flood abatement.
My advice: Party in Patts instead of Bangkok.
If you do decide to go to Bangkok you should be fine, especially come mid-to-late Nov as most of the water / flooding will also naturally abate by then ("officials" expect approx a month for the flooding to be gone, so in 2+ weeks say 60+% would be gone).
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1211399]Here are a few local news stories describing the situation:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/10/28/pattaya-rental-houses-full-as-bangkokians-escape-to-chonburi-away-from-floods/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/10/28/rush-to-evacuate-660-flood-victims-to-chonburi/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/41760/thousands-of-flood-victims-continue-to-arrive-in-pattaya/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/41654/pattaya-fills-up-as-bangkok-residents-escape-the-floods/[/url]
The car park at my condo has 8 levels. Only 3 are normally filled this time of year, but now all levels are filled to capacity and most of the condo units are occupied.
Traffic from Jomtien to Walking Street was bad last night and parking was hard to find everywhere. The go-go bars were jumping and the street was crowded. Beach Road was blocked off but I wasn't able to see why. Falang food was in good supply at the 24 hour Food Market in Jomtien.
Looks like high season has come early.[/QUOTE]Daddy07,
Since traffic is so bad and you're at Jomtien, next time you're at the Food market get me a case of large size Sagami Condoms I hope there isn't a run on those?
LBM
Sagami (presumably Sagami. 02) Large size in Pattaya. Or anywhere in Thailand? Where? Have usually ordered these online or off of eBay.
Have seen the standard (too tight) size in Boots in the white and red box, but not the large size in the black and gold box.
I was in Foodland today and most of shelves have been restocked, and I was able to buy 1.5 liter bottles of water. (Limit of 3)
I also have friend that took the bus to the airport and reported he had no problems, the trip took one hour and twenty minutes.
Traffic however is still bad here and coming from Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Punter 127;1211604]Traffic however is still bad here and coming from Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Beach Road and Second Road resembled a car park this afternoon. Lovely. No need to risk life and limb playing chicken today Just a nice relaxed stroll across to the beach. Wish it was like this every day.
F*** me, is it nearly Christmas already?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1211577]Daddy07,
Since traffic is so bad and you're at Jomtien, next time you're at the Food market get me a case of large size Sagami Condoms I hope there isn't a run on those?
LBM[/QUOTE]It's a food market, not a fricken sex shop, man.
Besides, some chicks named Mot, and an old lady on Soi 6, told me your dick isn't big enough for Sagami Large.
I'll pick up a can of Pringles for you.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1211690]It's a food market, not a fricken sex shop, man.
Besides, some chicks named Mot, and an old lady on Soi 6, told me your dick isn't big enough for Sagami Large.
I'll pick up a can of Pringles for you.[/QUOTE]Daddy07,
Good idea, why didn't I think of that? And it reusable? I can use the can after. Mot and Soi 6? What you talking about?
Thanks, LBM
Fellas Warning they have commenced building at the pool end of hotel, so make sure they do not give you a room at the end so rooms no's are 12 and 15 next to these are 13 and 10. Also bars around Soi 13 and 2nd Road don't have many sorts working only the old hags, WTF is happening to Pattaya, many more sorts in Angeles. Re Angeles Tiger air are now flying Bangkok to Clark at a more sensible time than Cebu Pacific BKK-CLK dep 1540 arr 1955 CLK. BKK dep 1235 arr 1450.
[QUOTE=Apeman 28;1211724]Fellas Warning they have commenced building at the pool end of hotel, so make sure they do not give you a room at the end so rooms no's are 12 and 15 next to these are 13 and 10. Also bars around Soi 13 and 2nd Road don't have many sorts working only the old hags, WTF is happening to Pattaya, many more sorts in Angeles. Re Angeles Tiger air are now flying Bangkok to Clark at a more sensible time than Cebu Pacific BKK-CLK dep 1540 arr 1955 CLK. BKK dep 1235 arr 1450.[/QUOTE]Isn't the airport code for Clark "CRK"?
[QUOTE=Punter 127;1211757]Isn't the airport code for Clark "CRK"?[/QUOTE]Yep, its CRK.
Guys, is it worth visiting Pattaya in second week of November, have my tickets and hotel confirmed?
Does walking street have stock of women?
Is it raining heavy?
Is power there in the hotels?
Need the folks who are there to provide their opinion.
Did it ever happen to you that a drink together with a girl cost you more then the session with her? In Pattaya everything can happen!
Yesterday I was walking along the Beach Road at about 11 PM. Would say around 200 WG all along. Maximum 3 % worth to consider for a date.
So I talked to 1 out of these 6. 500 Bath for ST, she said. So we agreed and went to the Hard Rock Cafe for a Margarita. And this for 600 Bath.
She was by the way very slim . Would say skinny. When she saw my see*k she refused;"no, no I cannot!" Following Dale Caregie's good advice:
If life gives you a lemon. Make a lemon limonade Haha. She made a perfect BBBJ combined with a deep anal massage. And this for $16. 50!
[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1211604]I was in Foodland today and most of shelves have been restocked, and I was able to buy 1. 5 liter bottles of water. (Limit of 3)
I also have friend that took the bus to the airport and reported he had no problems, the trip took one hour and twenty minutes.
Traffic however is still bad here and coming from Bangkok.[/QUOTE]That is certainly nice to hear! I noticed many of the 7/11 are slowly getting some stock. Today I was at a 7/11 got a cold towel and saw some water. There was a sign saying in Thai, only 6 bottles per customer, I got 2 small bottles that usually cost 7 to 10baht, whe it was time to pay the charge was 29 baht for each bottle.
Now I don't know if this was a means so that people don't buy more than they need or just another corporate being greedy? If so they should be ashame of themselves?
LBM
Folks, my tickets are booked from the 14 to the 19 nov and so it the hotel. I would like to take a view from fellow members who are in Pattaya, is worth taking the trip now? Worried about the flooding, and the aftermath! Suggestions are welcome.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1211837]I got 2 small bottles that usually cost 7 to 10baht, whe it was time to pay the charge was 29 baht for each bottle.
Now I don't know if this was a means so that people don't buy more than they need or just another corporate being greedy? If so they should be ashame of themselves?
LBM[/QUOTE]Most likely corporates or shop managers tryin gto be greedy pretending this way they avoid speculations (and so THEY make it) and control the flow of goods through the market: if you don't need you don't buy it at triple the price and if you buy it at triple the price, hard to sell it a 5-6 times the price so you earn your stake.
No doubt THEY make the extsa margin (if somebody buys)
[QUOTE=RedMercury;1211854]Folks, my tickets are booked from the 14 to the 19 nov and so it the hotel. I would like to take a view from fellow members who are in Pattaya, is worth taking the trip now? Worried about the flooding, and the aftermath! Suggestions are welcome.[/QUOTE]I just came back and it was worth it as I got 5 great days of sunshine and lying on the beach and with some beautiful honeys.
[QUOTE=RedMercury;1211854]Folks, my tickets are booked from the 14 to the 19 nov and so it the hotel. I would like to take a view from fellow members who are in Pattaya, is worth taking the trip now? Worried about the flooding, and the aftermath! Suggestions are welcome.[/QUOTE]No worriers, mate. In Pattaya at the moment. It rained heavily late afternoon today but otherwise the weather has been mostly fine and sunny for days. No flooding at all here and the roads to Bangkok are apparently flood free. Don't listen to the panic mongers, just the mongers:D.
[QUOTE=Canyon;1211448]I assume that there will be no flooding in Pattaya. Is this correct?[/QUOTE]Because Pattaya is on the sea it never gets the kind of sustained, chronic flooding that the Chao Phraya River basin gets. There are a few areas that have drainage problems, so there can be some standing water after a really big rain, but usually for no more than a couple hours.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1211931]No worriers, mate. In Pattaya at the moment. It rained heavily late afternoon today but otherwise the weather has been mostly fine and sunny for days. No flooding at all here and the roads to Bangkok are apparently flood free. Don't listen to the panic mongers, just the mongers:D.[/QUOTE]Awesome! Thank you mate!
[QUOTE=RedMercury;1211854]Folks, my tickets are booked from the 14 to the 19 nov and so it the hotel. I would like to take a view from fellow members who are in Pattaya, is worth taking the trip now? Worried about the flooding, and the aftermath! Suggestions are welcome.[/QUOTE]What hotel are you staying at? I'm landing on the 14th as well I believe. With about 7 days to kill, I'm thinking about doing 2 days in Bangkok. 3 Pattaya and 2 more in Bangkok unless I really enjoy Pattaya. Let me know if you want to meet up!
[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1212139]What hotel are you staying at? I'm landing on the 14th as well I believe. With about 7 days to kill, I'm thinking about doing 2 days in Bangkok. 3 Pattaya and 2 more in Bangkok unless I really enjoy Pattaya. Let me know if you want to meet up![/QUOTE]I had more fun in Pattaya than Bangkok. Do not get me wrong Bangkok is pretty cool, but I am a beach person and I love the beach at Pattaya.
Does anybody know if the Marriot is Girl Friendly?
Thank you in advance for your prompt response.
[QUOTE=ElHombreContento;1212251]Does anybody know if the Marriot is Girl Friendly?.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is.
[QUOTE=ElHombreContento;1212176]I had more fun in Pattaya than Bangkok. Do not get me wrong Bangkok is pretty cool, but I am a beach person and I love the beach at Pattaya.[/QUOTE]The beach itself is MUCH better in JOMTIEN. Only a 10B songtaew ride away. You don't get the advantages of Beach Road, but it's a better beach
[QUOTE=RedMercury;1212054]Awesome! Thank you mate![/QUOTE]NOTHING south of Chonburi is affected by num-dtuam (flood) I just got back to Pattaya from Chantaburi and there was ZERO evidence of flooding ANYWHERE in between. Be advised, though, that many khon Thai have abandoned BKK and gone to other areas. The "lower price" rooms in Pattaya are pretty much gone as near as I can tell. I tend to go native when I'm here and couldn't get into any of my "usual" places. High season started 1 NOV, too, so the prices went up a bit. I'm going home 7 NOV so it doesn't matter much to me anyway..
Come on in - you'll love it. I certainly do!
Do the 7/11s and Foodlands, Big C, etc. Have liters of bottled water for sale?
[QUOTE=JesseJames;1212498]Do the 7/11s and Foodlands, Big C, etc. Have liters of bottled water for sale?[/QUOTE]They do have water but a low volume and don't have the big large bottles. Delivery is slow but the 7/11 and shop in the tourist area I heard are getting the most water. Since the other parts of town or non-tourist Thais and Farang have no problem buying their water from the reverse osmosis machines located throughout the neighborhoods. One baht for a small bottle. 4 baht to fill a large bottle the same bottle that cost your 45 baht at 7/11.
[QUOTE=ElHombreContento; 1212251]Does anybody know if the Marriot is Girl Friendly?
Thank you in advance for your prompt response.[/QUOTE]Very, don't worry. The guard will salute the girl.
[QUOTE=ElHombreContento;1212176]I had more fun in Pattaya than Bangkok. Do not get me wrong Bangkok is pretty cool, but I am a beach person and I love the beach at Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Not trying to start anything, but WTF do you like about the beach in Pattaya? I really like Pattaya, but the beach may be one of the worst I have seen in the world.
My experience is that it is dirty, smelly, crowded with tourist families, and has about 10-15 feet of erroding sand.
I can think of nothing good about it, except the pussy on the sidewalk.
I flew back from Pattaya yesterday, and I can confirm what others have already posted: There was no issue getting from Pattaya to the airport, and while there are a bunch of sandbags on the streets in Pattaya there is no flooding there (nor in Jom Tien).
They are starting to run a bit low on a lot of things in stores, notably cigarettes and some food products, but that's not really a concern. More of an issue is that a friend of mine that owns a beer bar told me that they are starting to run low on beer and they are having a lot of difficulty getting ahold of some beer brands. However, this is more of an issue with suppliers hoarding things to drive up the price and it's not a genuine shortage.
It rained quite a bit while I was there, and not as hot and nice as it usually is, but that didn't stop me from enjoying my trip.
one of my favourite places in pattaya (as well as bangkok) is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. just really enjoy the concept of a bj bar that has girls that are pretty skilled at what they do and some of them are real talents.
anyway, two observations from my most recent trip:
1. last time i was in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in pattaya i spotted a fat, disgusting, and hairy man sitting at the bar reading a newspaper and taking no interest whatsoever in the girls and wondered if he was the owner. spotted him again this time, so figured that maybe he actually is the owner which i found hilarious since that would be exactly how i imagined the owner of that type of establishment to look like. does anyone know if that's the case?
2. i only went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] twice, and both times the girls were pretty miserable performers. way too much hand during the bj, and they did not take the cim properly like they used to do. it seems to me that based on this small sample the high standard that they used to maintain for the ability of the girls to do bjs are slipping, anyone else noticing the same thing or did i just have bad luck with the two girls i took?
[quote=fun and sun; 1212744]one of my favourite places in pattaya (as well as bangkok) is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. just really enjoy the concept of a bj bar that has girls that are pretty skilled at what they do and some of them are real talents.
anyway, two observations from my most recent trip:
1. last time i was in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in pattaya i spotted a fat, disgusting, and hairy man sitting at the bar reading a newspaper and taking no interest whatsoever in the girls and wondered if he was the owner. spotted him again this time, so figured that maybe he actually is the owner which i found hilarious since that would be exactly how i imagined the owner of that type of establishment to look like. does anyone know if that's the case?
2. i only went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] twice, and both times the girls were pretty miserable performers. way too much hand during the bj, and they did not take the cim properly like they used to do. it seems to me that based on this small sample the high standard that they used to maintain for the ability of the girls to do bjs are slipping, anyone else noticing the same thing or did i just have bad luck with the two girls i took?[/quote]i have had the bj issue happen. they should be doing cim. i will stop them and tell them what they are doing wrong. they usually will do better. sometimes it is just because they get lazy. if it does not improve, definitely no tip and complain to the mama. i have never had a problem in bkk, but have in pattaya.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1212566]They do have water but a low volume and don't have the big large bottles. Delivery is slow but the 7/11 and shop in the tourist area I heard are getting the most water. Since the other parts of town or non-tourist Thais and Farang have no problem buying their water from the reverse osmosis machines located throughout the neighborhoods. One baht for a small bottle. 4 baht to fill a large bottle the same bottle that cost your 45 baht at 7/11.[/QUOTE]I guess I should pack a 5 liter bottle, in my bag and use the magic machine. Hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
[quote=fun and sun; 1212744]one of my favourite places in pattaya (as well as bangkok) is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. just really enjoy the concept of a bj bar that has girls that are pretty skilled at what they do and some of them are real talents.
anyway, two observations from my most recent trip:
1. last time i was in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in pattaya i spotted a fat, disgusting, and hairy man sitting at the bar reading a newspaper and taking no interest whatsoever in the girls and wondered if he was the owner. spotted him again this time, so figured that maybe he actually is the owner which i found hilarious since that would be exactly how i imagined the owner of that type of establishment to look like. does anyone know if that's the case?
2. i only went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] twice, and both times the girls were pretty miserable performers. way too much hand during the bj, and they did not take the cim properly like they used to do. it seems to me that based on this small sample the high standard that they used to maintain for the ability of the girls to do bjs are slipping, anyone else noticing the same thing or did i just have bad luck with the two girls i took?[/quote]i stopped going there because i don't like a 3 minute bj. for a few hundred more you can bring a girl to your room and get a real long unrushed bj and do other things, if you want. at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s they don't even take off their clothes.
The holiday ended Monday. Have all the people that came to Pattaya from Bangkok during the holiday gone back now, or is it still crowded in Pattaya?
I will be in Pattaya most of November. If anyone wants to meet up over a beer (I am in my late 30s, from Northern Europe, and have been to Pattaya three times before), send me a message and tell me a bit about yourself. First round's on me!
I'm in Jomtien soi 11-ish, and don; t like taking the baht bus around town, so could anyone sugest any decent gogo's for ST in Jomtien that I can simply walk to and use their rooms for ST?
[quote=jessejames;1212827]i stopped going there because i don't like a 3 minute bj. for a few hundred more you can bring a girl to your room and get a real long unrushed bj and do other things, if you want. at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s they don't even take off their clothes.[/quote]believe me, it's up to you how long it takes, certainly more than 3 minutes. and whether she takes off her clothes. and you can pay i think 400 more and do "other things" at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s also.
of course chemistry matters, i get better performance with some than with others. there's one particular psycho at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s who guides your hands to the back of her head and challenges you to make her gag.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1212704]Not trying to start anything, but WTF do you like about the beach in Pattaya? I really like Pattaya, but the beach may be one of the worst I have seen in the world.
My experience is that it is dirty, smelly, crowded with tourist families, and has about 10-15 feet of erroding sand.
I can think of nothing good about it, except the pussy on the sidewalk.[/QUOTE]100 % correct, Pattaya beach is a sewer and would never swim there. The hotel pool is the go or a boat trip to Koh Larn, or better still if you can handle a 4-5 hour mini bus and ferry ride, then Koh Chang has really nice beaches, Bangkok air Fly to Trat where you can pick up minibus to your Koh Larn hotel (info from other websites). I may bypass Pattaya on my mid yr trip next yr, currently on drawing board and head straight to Koh Chang, I am sick of real tourist crowds that are going to Pattaya (fuck them arabs and indians smell) as well as the old hags and dogs working the beer bars.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1212704]Not trying to start anything, but WTF do you like about the beach in Pattaya? I really like Pattaya, but the beach may be one of the worst I have seen in the world.
My experience is that it is dirty, smelly, crowded with tourist families, and has about 10-15 feet of erroding sand.
I can think of nothing good about it, except the pussy on the sidewalk.[/QUOTE]Luvpuss, you hit the major points about the beach at Pattaya. You are right the only good thing at Pattaya beach is the Russian pussy that is sunbathing on the beach. But what I like about the beach was the people I met and the encounters I had with some of the locals, the experience was very good for me. Also, the girls that come by selling food, sun glasses and fruits I made friends with a couple of them and I that was alot of fun, you see getting pussy it the ultimate reward but for me meeting people is great also. By the way speaking about the girls that seel stuff on the becah there were 4 girls that were very fuckable and that was the angle that I was working on in the beach. There was one particular one that caught my eyes and my soul, but unfortunately I was with another girl at that moment and I had to leave the next day due to work. But I will be back and I will be back on that beach working on that girl that I saw. I am a leg, butt and eyes. She had unbeliveable eyes and they caught my attention. This is why I love the beach at Pattaya. I know that my reasons do not go with your reason as to why I like Pattaya, but they are my 2 cents as to why I love Pattaya. I am writting this and I do not want to get into a pissing contest with you or any other member, but they are my 2 cents as to why I like the beach in Pattaya.
Luvpuss, or anybody else for that purpose you might not agree with me but it is my opinion and desire.
What one guy would think is fuckable another guy might not see as fuckable, with that I do not want to start any pissing contest with you Luvpuss or anybody else. I am just stating my 2 cents. Just like you stated your 2 cents that the beach sucks at Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Apeman 28;1212946]100 % correct, Pattaya beach is a sewer and would never swim there. The hotel pool is the go or a boat trip to Koh Larn, or better still if you can handle a 4-5 hour mini bus and ferry ride, then Koh Chang has really nice beaches, Bangkok air Fly to Trat where you can pick up minibus to your Koh Larn hotel (info from other websites). I may bypass Pattaya on my mid yr trip next yr, currently on drawing board and head straight to Koh Chang, I am sick of real tourist crowds that are going to Pattaya (fuck them arabs and indians smell) as well as the old hags and dogs working the beer bars.[/QUOTE]Another thing I did not swim in the beach at Pattaya. Did not like the way the water looked, but still had a great time
I would like to know if highway to go from Pattaya to Bangkok aiport has issues or is still open.
Now I'm in Phuket and I will stay in Pattaya on Friday but next week I will back to my country and need to go to Bangkok airport by taxi.
Thanks for your information.
[QUOTE=Mastorr; 1212954]I would like to know if highway to go from Pattaya to Bangkok aiport has issues or is still open.
Now I'm in Phuket and I will stay in Pattaya on Friday but next week I will back to my country and need to go to Bangkok airport by taxi.
Thanks for your information.[/QUOTE]It is fully open.
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1212850]The holiday ended Monday. Have all the people that came to Pattaya from Bangkok during the holiday gone back now, or is it still crowded in Pattaya?
I will be in Pattaya most of November. If anyone wants to meet up over a beer (I am in my late 30s, from Northern Europe, and have been to Pattaya three times before) , send me a message and tell me a bit about yourself. First round's on me![/QUOTE]A friend of mine lives there. He said the city will be crowded most of the month as not as many people are going to BKK until the flood issue resolves. Which could be up to a month.
Today I wanted to go to view point and to the big buddha.
I decided to go on foot because I had plenty of time, it is a 30/40 minutes walk from walking street.
You have to go till the end of walking street, then pass the marina, then turn left and pass the kart circuit.
After the kart circuit cross the road and take the first road on the right, it take you up the hill. Here I found some ladies waiting for customers. The area is a dump and the ladies are not better. They asked for 200 bahts, but I am sure you can negotiate 100, for a BJ. The cheapest I have been proposed in my life!
Well, if you feel like experiencing something different try that.
[QUOTE=Maxinlondon;1212993].After the kart circuit cross the road and take the first road on the right, it take you up the hill. Here I found some ladies waiting for customers.[/QUOTE]If you are on a motorbike, don't make a right turn directly (there's a no right turn sign). Often there is a cop waiting up the hill to give you a ticket. Just go straight, make a u-turn under the flyway, and a left turn to proceed up the hill.
How do I know this? :(
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1212995]If you are on a motorbike, don't make a right turn directly (there's a no right turn sign). Often there is a cop waiting up the hill to give you a ticket. Just go straight, make a you-turn under the flyway, and a left turn to proceed up the hill.
How do I know this? .[/QUOTE]Sounds like the cops in California.
[QUOTE=Maxinlondon; 1212993]Today I wanted to go to view point and to the big buddha. I decided to go on foot because I had plenty of time, it is a 30/40 minutes walk from walking street. You have to go till the end of walking street, then pass the marina, then turn left and pass the kart circuit.
After the kart circuit cross the road and take the first road on the right, it take you up the hill. Here I found some ladies waiting for customers. The area is a dump and the ladies are not better. They asked for 200 bahts, but I am sure you can negotiate 100, for a BJ. The cheapest I have been proposed in my life!
Well, if you feel like experiencing something different try that.[/QUOTE]I see that you have found the Crack Shacks. Make sure you bring mosquito spray!
[QUOTE=Triklook;1212864]I'm in Jomtien soi 11-ish, and don; t like taking the baht bus around town, so could anyone sugest any decent gogo's for ST in Jomtien that I can simply walk to and use their rooms for ST?[/QUOTE]Jomtien is not known for go-go bars. There is one go-go called "We Are #1" across from the Jomtien Complex near the arch that goes over the main road. I think they have ST rooms on the premises. The place is OK but not as good as the average establishment on Walking Street. I've not been there for years and I live in Jomtien.
The baht bus is cheap and convenient, but if you don't like it, why not rent a motorbike so you can explore the whole town?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1212995]How do I know this? :([/QUOTE]Certainly not from personal experience, right?
Say it isn't so, Fon Tok.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1213140]Certainly not from personal experience, right? Say it isn't so, Fon Tok.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, yes, I'll admit it.
I got a ticket from the BiB on my way to eat BBQ in Jomtien!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1213152]I got a ticket from the BiB on my way to eat BBQ in Jomtien![/QUOTE]Let me guess: it was at a police checkpoint just beyond the curve in the road to Jomtien Beach, right?
I've been nailed twice there and hit with multiple tickets; no drivers license, no insurance, no registration, no brains, etc. At 400 baht per pop it gets expensive.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1213165]Let me guess: it was at a police checkpoint just beyond the curve in the road to Jomtien Beach, right?
I've been nailed twice there and hit with multiple tickets; no drivers license, no insurance, no registration, no brains, etc. At 400 baht per pop it gets expensive.[/QUOTE]I go up this way all the time never been stopped, in fact I smile at the guy from time to time?
LBM
[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1212139]What hotel are you staying at? I'm landing on the 14th as well I believe. With about 7 days to kill, I'm thinking about doing 2 days in Bangkok. 3 Pattaya and 2 more in Bangkok unless I really enjoy Pattaya. Let me know if you want to meet up![/QUOTE]Am at the Hard Rock! I like being in Pattaya, so I will be there for the week! Where are you put up?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1213170]I go up this way all the time never been stopped, in fact I smile at the guy from time to time?
LBM[/QUOTE]Hmm thats neat! You are the cop charmer or may be thats a code! Does the smile work on Women too. Free pussy!
Neat information, Thank you all.
Hi,
I'll be leaving two weeks from tonight for 6 days in Pattya. 3 in Singapore, and the final 2days in BKK. In the past I've used a SIM with an older unlocked, jailbrokej iphone. I still have that phone but am wondering of its worthwhile to just use some sort of data plan this time with my newer (last version) iPhone. I guess I should add that I'm from Northwrn California and I
Also plan on taking my iPad.
Any opinions / suggestions would be welcome. I'm thinking maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to try and unlock and jailbreak my newer iPhone but I'm not sure it'd be worth it to get a data plan for it either. Maybe just get a SIM in Thailand and in Singapore for the old iPhone?
Thanks in advance for the ideas.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1213170]I go up this way all the time never been stopped, in fact I smile at the guy from time to time?
LBM[/QUOTE]Passing for Thai again. See, there IS and upside.
[QUOTE=RedMercury;1213187]Am at the Hard Rock! I like being in Pattaya, so I will be there for the week! Where are you put up?[/QUOTE]I am now considering going straight to Pattaya from the airport as soon as I land in Bangkok LOL. Instead of doing the 2-3-2 plan, I might do 4 days in Pattaya and 3 in Bangkok depending on how much I like Pattaya? Once I figure this out, I'll pick my hotel.
Hi all,
Just been told that I need to take the days between X'mas & NY off so thought I might extend and pop over to Pattaya for a couple of weeks during this time.
Question, what is like over there during that time of year and I'm not asking about the weather.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
[QUOTE=RedMercury; 1213194]Hmm thats neat! You are the cop charmer or may be thats a code! Does the smile work on Women too. Free pussy!
Neat information, Thank you all.[/QUOTE]Not a charmer nor does the smile work on women and certainly no free pussy! Free only exist in people mind and ego sooner or later what goes around comes and around and you got to pay the piper?
LBM
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1213261]Passing for Thai again. See, there IS and upside.[/QUOTE]Oh really? I'll be sure to go up to the temple and pay my respects and thank my lucky star!
LBM
[quote=redfield10; 1213217]hi,
i'll be leaving two weeks from tonight for 6 days in pattya. 3 in singapore, and the final 2days in bkk. in the past i've used a sim with an older unlocked, jailbrokej iphone. i still have that phone but am wondering of its worthwhile to just use some sort of data plan this time with my newer (last version) iphone. i guess i should add that i'm from northwrn california and i
also plan on taking my ipad.
any opinions / suggestions would be welcome. i'm thinking maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to try and unlock and jailbreak my newer iphone but i'm not sure it'd be worth it to get a data plan for it either. maybe just get a sim in thailand and in singapore for the old iphone?
thanks in advance for the ideas.[/quote]i was in bkk 10 days, and needed mobile internet (used an locked iphone4).
1. got an gevey pro card at fortune tower (with that you can use any provider) , saw also in mbk etc. so better ask if you don't want to jailbreak.
2. got a "true" high speed micro sim.
3. topped it with 800 bath, and bought one months data plan (3g+gprs+wifi) , as it is limited in data transfer for 3g+gprs, but have unlimited wifi.
heard from locals true have the fastest mobile internet, at least it was faster than ais, and in best cases i got almost 1 mbit.
for me it was worth it, but total cost was something like 1800 bath. the good is that i didn't need to buy internet at my hotel.
if it works for ipad, have no idea.
b4n
[QUOTE=Redfield10;1213217]I'm thinking maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to try and unlock and jailbreak my newer iPhone[/QUOTE]They can not unlock an iPhone 4 or newer. Instead they use some little thing to put between the SIM and the connection. It costs like 1000 baht at Tukcom.
[QUOTE=Trantinr; 1213651]Hi all,
Just been told that I need to take the days between X'mas & NY off so thought I might extend and pop over to Pattaya for a couple of weeks during this time.
Question, what is like over there during that time of year and I'm not asking about the weather.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers[/QUOTE]What are you asking about then? There is pussy there 24/7, 365 if that is your question.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1213805]They can not unlock an iPhone 4 or newer. Instead they use some little thing to put between the SIM and the connection. It costs like 1000 baht at Tukcom.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. So should I use my current iPhone (which is not this new one nor the version before that, but the one before that) and get a worldwide data plan or would it make more sense to use my even older unlocked and jailbroken iPhone and get a SIM (I've done this in the past). My buddy will be using a new iPhone there (American #) so of I use my old iPhone and Sim will I even ne able to call him?
Thanks guys
Been reading some reports on how crowded Pattaya is now and bottled water is non-existent and such.
Can anyone there now on the ground verify just how bad it is? Is it just too much of a hassle there to be enjoyable? Or is it business as usual?
Does it seem like things are getting better or worse?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1213828]What are you asking about then? There is pussy there 24/7, 365 if that is your question.[/QUOTE]Really freaking crowded! Prices through the roof!
New Years really nice, especially with a great chick!
[QUOTE=Trantinr; 1213651]Hi all,
Just been told that I need to take the days between X'mas & NY off so thought I might extend and pop over to Pattaya for a couple of weeks during this time.
Question, what is like over there during that time of year and I'm not asking about the weather.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Really freaking crowded!
Prices through the roof!
But very nice, especially with a great chick.
[QUOTE=Monopoly; 1213903]Can anyone there now on the ground verify just how bad it is? Is it just too much of a hassle there to be enjoyable? Or is it business as usual?
Does it seem like things are getting better or worse?[/QUOTE]Nothing really unusual going on in Pattaya.
- Bottled water is easy to find. If one 7-11 doesn't have it, go to the Family Mart next door or a mom & pop shop and they'll definitely have it.
- P4P prices are about the same. High season's around the corner so expect negotiating ST / LT rates to be more difficult.
- Really, it's just another day in LOS Patts.
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1213853]Thanks for the info. So should I use my current iPhone (which is not this new one nor the version before that, but the one before that) and get a worldwide data plan or would it make more sense to use my even older unlocked and jailbroken iPhone and get a SIM (I've done this in the past). My buddy will be using a new iPhone there (American #) so of I use my old iPhone and Sim will I even ne able to call him?
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]You don't need any data plan. Just have the thing unlocked and get a True Move SIM. So many places have free wifi that you can connect almost anywhere. It is much cheaper to call a US # from Thailand than to use a US # in Thailand. He is looking at about $3 just for the thing to ring, while you are looking at 3 cents / minute to call the US with True Move.
[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1213263]I am now considering going straight to Pattaya from the airport as soon as I land in Bangkok LOL. Instead of doing the 2-3-2 plan, I might do 4 days in Pattaya and 3 in Bangkok depending on how much I like Pattaya? Once I figure this out, I'll pick my hotel.[/QUOTE]Pm me the details, we'll catch up while you are Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1213918]Prices through the roof![/QUOTE]If someone reconsiders Phuket instead of Pattaya, here is no problem at all.
No pompem, hehe.
Greetings from Patong! Cheers!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1214013]You don't need any data plan. Just have the thing unlocked and get a True Move SIM. So many places have free wifi that you can connect almost anywhere. It is much cheaper to call a US # from Thailand than to use a US # in Thailand. He is looking at about $3 just for the thing to ring, while you are looking at 3 cents / minute to call the US with True Move.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr E. If you are around 19-26 I'll buy you a drink.
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1214125]If someone reconsiders Phuket instead of Pattaya, here is no problem at all.
No pompem, hehe.
Greetings from Patong! Cheers![/QUOTE]No floods, but:
[url]http://www.phuketgazette.net/archives/articles/2011/article11374.html[/url]
I'm heading out of Jomtien to main Pattaya to hit up the gogo's and go in for some real mongering. I'm interested in BabyDoll's, and any other exciting gogo. Could somone sugest a 550 baht hotel that's next to tons of gogo's where I can do plenty of ST butterflying? I'm thinking soi 6 post office would be a good start from what I've read on the boards. Maybe I can find a hotel in soi 6 and just take a taxi to babydolls when I'm feeling even more frisky.
How do motorbike rentals work? Do you need a driver's licence from your native country? And I don't know about Pattaya, but Jomtien has no freking streets labeled.
[QUOTE=Triklook;1214265]How do motorbike rentals work? Do you need a driver's licence from your native country? And I don't know about Pattaya, but Jomtien has no freking streets labeled.[/QUOTE]To get a motorbike you only need to let the rental place copy your passport. They will charge you 1000 baht deposit plus 150-200 baht per day for the bike. Make sure you always have your driver's license when you are riding the bike or you risk a ticket from the cops. You can find maps in the back of any free guide book that you may see in hotels and travel agencies. Or you may look online at one such as.
[url]http://www.phuketadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/pattaya-map.gif[/url]
[url]http://teakdoor.com/view.php?pg=pattaya-maps[/url]
[QUOTE=Triklook; 1214265]I'm heading out of Jomtien to main Pattaya to hit up the gogo's and go in for some real mongering. I'm interested in BabyDoll's, and any other exciting gogo. Could somone sugest a 550 baht hotel that's next to tons of gogo's where I can do plenty of ST butterflying? I'm thinking soi 6 post office would be a good start from what I've read on the boards. Maybe I can find a hotel in soi 6 and just take a taxi to babydolls when I'm feeling even more frisky.
How do motorbike rentals work? Do you need a driver's licence from your native country? And I don't know about Pattaya, but Jomtien has no freking streets labeled.[/QUOTE]Queens Victory Inn is located on Soi 6, Soi Post Office, I believe that is 13/2, have a few go go not very popular but closer to Walking St. There is a guy renting (Farang) bikes nearly the beginning of Soi 6.
LBM
Hi guys,
I was just about to buy plane ticket and make hotel reservation for my holiday in Pattaya in early Jan 2012 when I froze hearing critic news.
May thai flood jeopardize it all now? I know bad weather didn't affect Pattaya at the moment, but would clouds and rains move there in the next weeks?
It seems it has been raining for months in Thailand, how long is it going to last?
I don't want to run ten thousand miles and concern about the weather. I want my sun!
Anybody got a link to accurate wheater forecast in Pattaya in order to monitor situation there?
I'm also scared of price hikes and I wouldn't like to wait for weeks before buying my plane ticket to see if it's getting better because I'd rather avoid possible further increases.
Thanks for your support.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1214323]I believe that is 13/2,[/QUOTE]Could you define this term?
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1214360]Hi guys,
I was just about to buy plane ticket and make hotel reservation for my holiday in Pattaya in early Jan 2012 when I froze hearing critic news.
May thai flood jeopardize it all now? I know bad weather didn't affect Pattaya at the moment, but would clouds and rains move there in the next weeks?
It seems it has been raining for months in Thailand, how long is it going to last?
I don't want to run ten thousand miles and concern about the weather. I want my sun!
Anybody got a link to accurate wheater forecast in Pattaya in order to monitor situation there?
I'm also scared of price hikes and I wouldn't like to wait for weeks before buying my plane ticket to see if it's getting better because I'd rather avoid possible further increases.
Thanks for your support.[/QUOTE]Quite a dilemma you're in, you should stay home or go to Hawaii for nice weather but then you miss out on cheap and easy poon. Here is the WC link and a BR pic.
[url]http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/THXX0015[/url]
[QUOTE=Triklook;1214382]Could you define this term?[/QUOTE]In Thailand, you will find streets and then "side streets," or side Soi (meaning streets). So, Soi 13 will be followed by Soi 13/1, and then Soi 13/2.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1214360]Hi guys,
I was just about to buy plane ticket and make hotel reservation for my holiday in Pattaya in early Jan 2012 when I froze hearing critic news.
May thai flood jeopardize it all now? I know bad weather didn't affect Pattaya at the moment, but would clouds and rains move there in the next weeks?
It seems it has been raining for months in Thailand, how long is it going to last?
I don't want to run ten thousand miles and concern about the weather. I want my sun!
Anybody got a link to accurate wheater forecast in Pattaya in order to monitor situation there?
I'm also scared of price hikes and I wouldn't like to wait for weeks before buying my plane ticket to see if it's getting better because I'd rather avoid possible further increases.
Thanks for your support.[/QUOTE]Google "weather in Pattaya". It will give you all kinds of links to past / future weather patterns.
Where is the stock market going to be at in January? Who the F knows. Just like none of us can predict the weather for that time.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1214323]Queens Victory Inn is located on Soi 6, Soi Post Office, I believe that is 13/2, have a few go go not very popular but closer to Walking St. There is a guy renting (Farang) bikes nearly the beginning of Soi 6.
LBM[/QUOTE]I wouldn't usually post unless I was in country but the hotel you are referring to is called Queen Victoria. The people there are very quick to respond to emails and were good enough to accept western union as payment when I didn't want to pay by visa card.
I'm formulating a plan as back up in case I have to leave during my visit next month and would encourage others go do the same. It's a short flight to Phnom Pehn from BKK and I will go there if the flood is a problem but to be honest I don't think it will be. It's right on the sea right? Pattaya. Drainage won't be any sort of issue.
And also you have to take media reports with a grain of salt. In the end they are trying to get attention and sell newspapers or get ratings. Further more, a friend of mine in Bangkok said that Sukhumvit area is dry and theres a lack of customers. She even asked me to come sooner. LOL
Dear Senior members,
I was wondering if there is any Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbek girls (sex workers) are available in Pattaya? If yes, where can I find them? What are their going rates? Are there any special hotels where they stay?
Thanks in advance
"It's right on the sea right? Pattaya. Drainage won't be any sort of issue."
You might want to review such things as gravity, the tendency of water to flow downhill (meaning to sea level), and the tidal wave that leveled Phuket in 2004. Just as a quick review, drainage tends to be [B]more[/B] of an issue at sea level as opposed to at higher elevations. Of course, sea level can vary, as was discovered in Phuket in 2004.
For a brief refresher course, google "tsunami Thailand 2004."
Note that if airports are flooded, planes have difficulty taking off, and ground transportation has difficulty arriving at them. You may want to arrange an amphibious vehicle just to hedge your bets.
[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1214590]"It's right on the sea right? Pattaya. Drainage won't be any sort of issue."
You might want to review such things as gravity, the tendency of water to flow downhill (meaning to sea level) , and the tidal wave that leveled Phuket in 2004. Just as a quick review, drainage tends to be [B]more[/B] Of an issue at sea level as opposed to at higher elevations. Of course, sea level can vary, as was discovered in Phuket in 2004.
For a brief refresher course, google "tsunami Thailand 2004."
Note that if airports are flooded, planes have difficulty taking off, and ground transportation has difficulty arriving at them. You may want to arrange an amphibious vehicle just to hedge your bets.[/QUOTE]You are right. I just meant as opposed to BKK where there's no sea. Less chance of stagnant water. No idea what a Tsunami has to do with anything but Ill just hope one doesn't come then.
I will just assume you are from Perth, and hope that at some point your government decides to adequately fund primary education in that state.
Just to say that I arrived last night. Met by Mr T taxi, which sped me to Pattaya in just over one hour (1000BHT). Staying at the Pattaya Bay Resort (1400 BHT). There is construction work going on in a nearby sort (reported elsewhere) but I can't hear a thing from my room. No sign of flooding anywhere on this side of Bangkok. It's sunny and there is a typical high-season holiday atmosphere. Plenty of girls and plenty of visitors.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1214608]I will just assume you are from Perth, and hope that at some point your government decides to adequately fund primary education in that state.[/QUOTE]Hmm thats even more puzzling. Don't know what your on about. Anyway, I for one won't be canceling my trip. More fun for me. I hope the crowds are way down compared to other years. Even a slight reduction welcomed.
Dickhead, if your around late December the first schooners on me. There arent too many states they call them that. Hint hint.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1214463]Who the F knows. Just like none of us can predict the weather for that time.[/QUOTE]Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Of course I'm not asking anyone to tell exactly how is going to be the weather in Pattaya in two months, but what happened in Bangkok is serious and I think it didn't come out of the blue.
I read something about heavy monsoons blowing east behind this calamity. Maybe they will calm down and weather in Thailand will overall get better, maybe they will rage more furiuosly and it will get worse. I was a weatherman I guess I was dealing with these data and I could forecast something. It's quite is to find a good weather website giving you a proper sun / rain schedule for the next 15 days, but not so to explain in words what happened and how it is going to evolve now, in order to guess a further scenario.
I was just asking this and I was wandering if anybody of you knows a site, a forum or a blog where finding more deteailled information about these issues.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1214735]Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Of course I'm not asking anyone to tell exactly how is going to be the weather in Pattaya in two months, but what happened in Bangkok is serious and I think it didn't come out of the blue.
I read something about heavy monsoons blowing east behind this calamity. Maybe they will calm down and weather in Thailand will overall get better, maybe they will rage more furiuosly and it will get worse. I was a weatherman I guess I was dealing with these data and I could forecast something. It's quite is to find a good weather website giving you a proper sun / rain schedule for the next 15 days, but not so to explain in words what happened and how it is going to evolve now, in order to guess a further scenario.
I was just asking this and I was wandering if anybody of you knows a site, a forum or a blog where finding more deteailled information about these issues.
Thanks[/QUOTE]The floods of BKK (some areas, if you look at the map links repeatedly psoted here you will see that as bas as it can be, only part of BKK is wet) have been sort of manually induced to preserve other areas. This is the reason why some areas are dry and some are massively flooded.
I am not an expert but in a pinch I'd say that if they let the whole of BKK be flooded, maybe 20cm of water will be everywhere, rather than having 1mt or more in some "selected" areas.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1214360]Hi guys,
I was just about to buy plane ticket and make hotel reservation for my holiday in Pattaya in early Jan 2012 when I froze hearing critic news.
May thai flood jeopardize it all now? I know bad weather didn't affect Pattaya at the moment, but would clouds and rains move there in the next weeks?
It seems it has been raining for months in Thailand, how long is it going to last?
I don't want to run ten thousand miles and concern about the weather. I want my sun!
Anybody got a link to accurate wheater forecast in Pattaya in order to monitor situation there?
I'm also scared of price hikes and I wouldn't like to wait for weeks before buying my plane ticket to see if it's getting better because I'd rather avoid possible further increases.
Thanks for your support.[/QUOTE]Just to generalize a bit about weather patterns in Thailand. I've lived here for 5 years. By January we "should" be well into the dry season. I would not worry about it if I had a trip planned. Of course you have to make your own decision. As for price hikes, well one would think that airfare might drop if seats are not selling. So far that has not been the case so who knows? It's my impression that hotel prices are currently inflated because of the massive influx of people fleeing Bangkok. That might impact you if you book your hotel now. If it was me I would not book my room until just before arrival.
C4T
i'm flying to bkk next week. of course upon landing i will immediately transfer to pattaya so a flooded bangkok will be of little significance to me. exchanged some currency today & cathay pacific still has my flights confirmed so all is good as far as i know.
i actually think that there may be a better & larger selection of ladies available in pattaya at this time due to the flooded main city. who knows, i just wish the best for the thai people and i plan to have a damn good time.
btw. anyone know how the bliss lounge compares with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]? which place is better for an oral "release"?
- dsk
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1214735]I read something about heavy monsoons blowing east behind this calamity.[/QUOTE]Huh? Rainy season is well and fully over in central Thailand. The water now working its way through outer Bangkok is from rain literally months ago. None of which has any effect in Pattaya. Sunny and dry here, with plenty of drinking water, beer, and pussy.
I do understand newbies' concerns given some of the silly fear-mongering still coming out. But seriously, the scene is Pattaya is perfectly fine now. Bit of a buyer's market in fact, which is a rare luxury in the high season.
[QUOTE=Betong;1215111]The water now working its way through outer Bangkok is from rain literally months ago. None of which has any effect in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]We are basically saying the same thing. I meant the flood is a consequence of heavy rains fallen months ago.
And I know Pattaya is fine now.
BUT critic situation may change in the following weeks and move from Bangkok to the coast and to Pattaya as well. That is my concern.
@Bionicman.
Thanks for explanation. Didn't know that.
@C4T.
Yes, of course I don't need to book a hotel now, there are plenty of cheap ones I can find on the spot, but it's about time to book a ticket plane and there are not so many at cheap rates and good conditions (short stopovers for example). My idea is that tickets are inflated as well, but I can't guess if they rise more or go down now.
[quote=devilspinkick; 1214976]i'm flying to bkk next week. of course upon landing i will immediately transfer to pattaya so a flooded bangkok will be of little significance to me. exchanged some currency today & cathay pacific still has my flights confirmed so all is good as far as i know.
i actually think that there may be a better & larger selection of ladies available in pattaya at this time due to the flooded main city. who knows, i just wish the best for the thai people and i plan to have a damn good time.
btw. anyone know how the bliss lounge compares with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]? which place is better for an oral "release"?
- dsk[/quote]to devilspinkick.
cathay pacific cancel some flight because many hk tourist cancel trip to bangkok many flight is only half full, there are good deal now on flight from hk to bangkok for only around 100 usd from tour company and tour package 4 night for as low as 240 usd with hotel, better check with airline before heading to the airport.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fck Dick; 1214580]Dear Senior members,
I was wondering if there is any Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbek girls (sex workers) are available in Pattaya? If yes, where can I find them? What are their going rates? Are there any special hotels where they stay?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Hi.
When I visited Pattaya a few months ago, I saw some of these girls trying to pick up customers from Walking st. They were all freelancers. Not sure what they charge though.
Also, there is a disco called Marine very close to Walking st, which is full of arabs. I've also seen some girls there too
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1215208]BUT critic situation may change in the following weeks and move from Bangkok to the coast and to Pattaya as well.[/QUOTE]IMHO the floods can never reach Pattaya, it's just too far away.
Arrived in BKK yesterday, staying in Sukhumvit Soi 20, perfectly dry here, train from airport and MRT all was fine, but most buildings have sandbags in front of lower entrances as precaution. Anyway, who knows what to come? I don't. But I assume inner Bangkok west of the river will remain dry.
[QUOTE=Fck Dick; 1214580]Dear Senior members,
I was wondering if there is any Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbek girls (sex workers) are available in Pattaya? If yes, where can I find them? What are their going rates? Are there any special hotels where they stay?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Places to go and find Euro or Russian pussy:
[url]http://www.pattayai.com/pattaya-nightlife/review-clubs-galaxy.php[/url]
"Then you probably haven't been to Galaxy, a club with a difference. That difference is namely the girls, as you won't find anyone asking you 'where you come from mister? ' – none of the ladies here are Thai.
"Rather, they are all white and seem to emanate largely from eastern Europe."
[url]http://www.pattayai.com/pattaya-nightlife/review-clubs-galaxy.php[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJl9IFCsOU[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Y4S7n_SnJHo[/url]
Russian Dancer B52 niteclub Pattaya Thailand.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nFjPLmKStU&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uzr7j2dlWo&feature=related[/url]
Pattaya. The Moulin Rouge a Hostess of sexy Russia. (5/5)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn1uDc-3f5A&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=c0XzWmgtXJY[/url]
Sexy Russian Girls Arses Walking street Pattaya.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=3WmVpN3LA2g[/url]
Other Russians.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Eed98dh6CuU[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9h1yMCCaQ9g[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=M6Ivw34hZxs[/url]
[QUOTE=Ekspat;1215326]IMHO the floods can never reach Pattaya, it's just too far away.[/QUOTE]Exactly. It's on the ocean and nowhere near the Cao Phraya river basin. There is zero chance of floods 'moving' to Pattaya.
The quality of girls can change rapidly on the gogo scene of Pattaya.
So what gogos currently have the best lineup, in your opinion? And why?
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1215471]The quality of girls can change rapidly on the gogo scene of Pattaya.
So what gogos currently have the best lineup, in your opinion? And why?[/QUOTE]Stakeout,
That is a rather difficult question to answer. A Go–Go that was GREAT one evening with everyone having a good time can be like a 'Wet Wednesday in Wigan' (or Wuppertal) the next night.
Also, What, for YOU constitutes the “best line up?”
Looks, attitude, raunchiness? We all have our particular likes and dislikes!
All us guys like something different! Atmosphere, Music, Girls, even PRICES!!! What one guy likes another will absolutely hate!
I am only an 'occasional visitor' to Pattaya but each time I arrive I have to check out quite a few Go-Go's until I find one that has, for me, a 'good vibe. ' THAT EVENING.
Even then, if I go back a day or so later the atmosphere may well be completely different! Or, perhaps it is that MY mood changes and it is ME that looks for something different?
So, there is NO Go-Go that is ALLWAYS 'best' for every guy. You just have to check a few out.
But, thinking about it, isn't that what makes it so much FUN?
You DO find some hidden gems tucked away in the most unlikely places sometimes.
Enjoy,
I always do!
Hotman.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1215329]Places to go and find Euro or Russian pussy:
[url]http://www.pattayai.com/pattaya-nightlife/review-clubs-galaxy.php[/url]
"Then you probably haven't been to Galaxy, a club with a difference. That difference is namely the girls, as you won't find anyone asking you 'where you come from mister? ' – none of the ladies here are Thai.
"Rather, they are all white and seem to emanate largely from eastern Europe."[/QUOTE]Honestly, the Russians have a bad reputation for being far too expensive and the bars are full of touts. Lots of scams, so never go to one of these alone.
[QUOTE=Woofiee;1215532]Honestly, the Russians have a bad reputation for being far too expensive and the bars are full of touts. Lots of scams, so never go to one of these alone.[/QUOTE]What are their price ranges?
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1215224]To Devilspinkick.
Cathay pacific cancel some flight because many HK tourist cancel trip to Bangkok many flight is only half full, there are good deal now on flight from HK to Bangkok for only around 100 USD from tour company and tour package 4 night for as low as 240 USD with hotel, better check with airline before heading to the airport.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Yeh, I've heard the same thing but there are still flights going to BKK. Just not as many. So I figure at the worst I might get bumped to a different flight for either arrival or departure. Not so bad of a thing as long as I get there. Maybe I'll get a longer layover in Hong Kong and have more time to visit that place also. At this point I prefer not to stress about it and just take things as they come. This will be my fifth trip to the LOS but it's been way too long since my last visit. Look forward to being the "meat" of a Thai hottie sandwich.
- DSK
I'm wanting to arrange a three way at a beer bar. Does anyone have a recommended beer bar to do this at? I know of the devils den but think it's kinda expensive and would prefer to go the beer bar route. Anyone got a recommendation? I'm just into the usual shag and it might be interesting if the girls get a bit into each other too but not a deal breaker if they don't.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1215978]I'm wanting to arrange a three way at a beer bar. Does anyone have a recommended beer bar to do this at? I know of the devils den but think it's kinda expensive and would prefer to go the beer bar route. Anyone got a recommendation? I'm just into the usual shag and it might be interesting if the girls get a bit into each other too but not a deal breaker if they don't.[/QUOTE]I'd suggest checking out Beach Road first. Quality is as good, if not better than Beer Bars and girls are often to be found in pairs. Plus, negotiation is more private and its much cheaper in case it doesn't work out. But for the ultimate 3sum, you have to reach into your pocket and try the Devils Den experience. Just don't pick Bobi. She is a waste of time and a nasty piece of work to boot.
You might also try Soi 6.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1215978]I'm wanting to arrange a three way at a beer bar. Does anyone have a recommended beer bar to do this at? I know of the devils den but think it's kinda expensive and would prefer to go the beer bar route. Anyone got a recommendation? I'm just into the usual shag and it might be interesting if the girls get a bit into each other too but not a deal breaker if they don't.[/QUOTE]As CS said, your best bet is Beach Road. Just go grab 2 of them for 500 baht each and call it a day.
So to sum it up:
Beach Road: 1000
Soi 6 : 2000
Disco FL : 2000*
Beer Bar : 2600
Devil's Den : 3000
Soapy : 3600
Agogo : 5200
*Very difficult to get FL in discos to do 3 somes, but I have seen it done.
Many thanks to both of you for the advice.
Hi.
This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?
Thanks,
Paresh
[QUOTE=Reshma; 1216081]Hi.
This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?
Thanks,
Paresh[/QUOTE]OMG. The current situation of what?
[QUOTE=Reshma; 1216081]Hi.
This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?
Thanks,
Paresh[/QUOTE]Are you looking for current situation in finding girls in Phuket?
If so read the forum. It is as current as it gets.
[QUOTE=Reshma; 1216081]Hi.
This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?
Thanks,
Paresh[/QUOTE]Current situation in Phuket and Bangkok is, currently, being discussed in the Phuket and Bangkok thread and not in the Pattaya thread...
[QUOTE=Reshma;1216081]This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?[/QUOTE]Since there is flooding around Bangkok, and Phuket is nearby, it's only 1 hour by flight, Phuket is 3 feet under water.
Believe me, terrible there.
One of the members of the board mentioned the Pattaya Noble Place chain so I tried out the location at Soi Post office. The rooms were all very new and had nice, large patios. My room faced a back wall but that was nice because it was so quiet. Paid 600 baht and its a short walk to Walking Street and is in the middle of all of the street action on Beach Road. The only drawback is the stairs are a bit of a hike and very steep. No walk of shame as there is a separate door entrance.
Highly recommended. [url]http://www.pattayanobleplace.com/[/url] Noble Place 1 is where I stayed.
WE are planning a visit to Pattaya in Feb 12. Which are the good hotels very near to Walking street. 4 or 5 star atleast 3. Should be girl friendly also.
Thanks.
Years back Sabailand was the best massage place. Now which is the best?
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick; 1215644]Yeh, I've heard the same thing but there are still flights going to BKK. Just not as many. So I figure at the worst I might get bumped to a different flight for either arrival or departure. Not so bad of a thing as long as I get there. Maybe I'll get a longer layover in Hong Kong and have more time to visit that place also. At this point I prefer not to stress about it and just take things as they come. This will be my fifth trip to the LOS but it's been way too long since my last visit. Look forward to being the "meat" of a Thai hottie sandwich.
- DSK[/QUOTE]DSK, I was scanning the posts and saw your name, initials at the bottom and immediately thought our board had been blessed with France's noble monger, Monsieur Strauss-Kahn.
Nice initials.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1215329]Places to go and find Euro or Russian pussy:
[
Other Russians.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Eed98dh6CuU[/url]
[[/QUOTE]Personally I don't see the point of going all the way to Thailand to look for Russian girls. Then again if I ran into the one in the above video I'd probably change my mind very fast. LOL
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1216314]Since there is flooding around Bangkok, and Phuket is nearby, it's only 1 hour by flight, Phuket is 3 feet under water.
Believe me, terrible there.[/QUOTE]I say, you better bring latex condoms than rubber boots.
[QUOTE=Polyorchid; 1216409]DSK, I was scanning the posts and saw your name, initials at the bottom and immediately thought our board had been blessed with France's noble monger, Monsieur Strauss-Kahn.
Nice initials.[/QUOTE]Yeh, some folks in the Germany forums mentioned the connection to Dominique as well. Being an American bloke I didn't know what they were talking about at first, LOL. Also, I'm not a powerful politician or anything so I couldn't get away with molesting women (nor would I want to). However, I do have sufficient dough to trot the globe and sample a variety of dames.
La vie est belle, oui?
- DSK
hello, isg members,
i would really appreciate any words of wisdom you might have to share. i had a minor scooter accident an hour ago in pattaya with my rented motobike. the good news is that no one was injured, it wasn't a collision, i was just stupid and tried to ride in the side drainage area. anyways i walked away with a few scrapes and a bruised ego, but the bike has some damage, scratches on the side. it rides fine though.
i want to pay for it, but i don't want to be extorted for every penny i have. how should i go about dealing with the rental company? can anyone help?
tqq
[quote=tqq776; 1216723]hello, isg members,
i would really appreciate any words of wisdom you might have to share. i had a minor scooter accident an hour ago in pattaya with my rented motobike. the good news is that no one was injured, it wasn't a collision, i was just stupid and tried to ride in the side drainage area. anyways i walked away with a few scrapes and a bruised ego, but the bike has some damage, scratches on the side. it rides fine though.
i want to pay for it, but i don't want to be extorted for every penny i have. how should i go about dealing with the rental company? can anyone help?
tqq[/quote]i recommend finding a mityon shop that sells bikes and ask where their repair shop is. they are the big motorbike shops that usually say mityon. ask for a quote first. feel free to go to a few places for quotes but i doubt you'll need to. sometimes it's next door, other times it's across the street. you could always wash the bike first at a car wash or gas station so they can see all of the damage. i had a foreigner friend dump his bike and his total was 800 baht to replace the parts and free alignment. another person got hit by a car, was given false insurance and phone number info, and the total repair on a brand new bike was 2000 baht. i would assume your damage would cost 500-2500 baht.
[QUOTE=The Scout;1216992]I recommend finding a Mityon shop that sells bikes and ask where their repair shop is. They are the big motorbike shops that usually say Mityon. Ask for a quote first. Feel free to go to a few places for quotes but I doubt you'll need to. Sometimes it's next door, other times it's across the street. You could always wash the bike first at a car wash or gas station so they can see all of the damage. I had a foreigner friend dump his bike and his total was 800 baht to replace the parts and free alignment. Another person got hit by a car, was given false insurance and phone number info, and the total repair on a brand new bike was 2000 baht. I would assume your damage would cost 500-2500 baht.[/QUOTE]This is good advice and although it really has to do with who you actually rented the bike from? If it is parts that need to be replaced Mityon can easily do that for you but if the side painted panels are scratch and damage (dented) then it will cost you more because it will have to be painted. Many times they already have the panels available and painted since it is very standard. But first take some water and clean the area off. If you have a sponge and some liquor soap with water just to scrub off some of the scratches if you can? Or take it to one of those car washes, bikes are normally 80 baht to have it washed and armor all and if you wanted it wax 100 baht total.
In the end, you can do as noted already and get a estimate and present it to the rental shop and even negotiate the price down since many if minior doesn't affect the running of the bike wouldn't even fix it. If the shop is very small and the bike doesn't have a lot of miles (KM) it is most likely on a payment plan and will end up a repo that goes back to Mityon and go on sale again?
LBM
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya;1216522]Personally I don't see the point of going all the way to Thailand to look for Russian girls. Then again if I ran into the one in the above video I'd probably change my mind very fast. LOL[/QUOTE]I don't care where on earth I were, I would pick her up LOL.
1st. So the 1st thing I noticed in Pattaya was the traffic. After an hour drive from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, traffic was pretty awful but I survived. After settling in at my hotel, I took a long walk around Pattaya visiting Hard Rock Hotel, The Hilton as well as checking out the prospects on Soi 6.
2nd. The 2nd thing I noticed was a lot of older men and by a lot, I mean a lot! LOL. Pattaya almost has a senior citizen or retirement home kind of feel to it. Who can blame them though, Pattaya has a lot of girls that would want to take care of them.
3rd. The 3rd thing I noticed was a lot of homeless looking people and I mean a lot! It was pretty bad.
4th. The 4th thing I noticed was the number of European people! Mainly Russians and the British! I'm not saying any of this stuff is bad. Just wanted to set expectations for other first time mongers from the states.
I'll be hitting up Walking Street tonight! Report back later guys!
Arriving at Svarnabhumi Airport at 19:10 hrs on 2nd December anyone intrested in sharing a taxi to Pattaya around that time PM me
[QUOTE=Chimmy31; 1217123]1st. So the 1st thing I noticed in Pattaya was the traffic. After an hour drive from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, traffic was pretty awful but I survived. After settling in at my hotel, I took a long walk around Pattaya visiting Hard Rock Hotel, The Hilton as well as checking out the prospects on Soi 6.
2nd. The 2nd thing I noticed was a lot of older men and by a lot, I mean a lot! LOL. Pattaya almost has a senior citizen or retirement home kind of feel to it. Who can blame them though, Pattaya has a lot of girls that would want to take care of them.
3rd. The 3rd thing I noticed was a lot of homeless looking people and I mean a lot! It was pretty bad.
4th. The 4th thing I noticed was the number of European people! Mainly Russians and the British! I'm not saying any of this stuff is bad. Just wanted to set expectations for other first time mongers from the states.
I'll be hitting up Walking Street tonight! Report back later guys![/QUOTE]Seems you are totally dwelling on the negative.
The first thing I noticed when I got to Pattaya was all the girls. Many more girls than the people you are describing. Driving down Soi 6, walking around all the bars off 2nd road, all the girls outside the MP's, all the FL's on Beach Road, etc.
If you are focusing on the homeless, old people, and foreigners, you will probably have a bad time.
I am trying to make a reservation with Mr. T Taxi via email for this coming Saturday for a ride to Pattaya at 10:45. I did receive an email back asking for my last name, but then no real confirmation. Shall I assume I'm confirned? I sent two follow ups but haven't heard back. Any advice? Thanks.
They need to do a better job about returning emails.
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1217159]I am trying to make a reservation with Mr. T Taxi via email for this coming Saturday for a ride to Pattaya at 10:45. I did receive an email back asking for my last name, but then no real confirmation. Shall I assume I'm confirned? I sent two follow ups but haven't heard back. Any advice? Thanks.
They need to do a better job about returning emails.[/QUOTE]If they don't show get a regular taxi.
This is the one part of Mr. T Taxi that is an issue with me and that is a confirmation email. I have used him many times in the past and have experienced this same issue. For me, I will resend it and even call to get that confirmation.
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1217159]I am trying to make a reservation with Mr. T Taxi via email for this coming Saturday for a ride to Pattaya at 10:45. I did receive an email back asking for my last name, but then no real confirmation. Shall I assume I'm confirned? I sent two follow ups but haven't heard back. Any advice? Thanks.
They need to do a better job about returning emails.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1217211]This is the one part of Mr. T Taxi that is an issue with me and that is a confirmation email. I have used him many times in the past and have experienced this same issue. For me, I will resend it and even call to get that confirmation.[/QUOTE]Alternatively you can also try Keak Taxi 1000 going to PTY. 900 back. Pretty reliable as well. Never had trouble.
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1217159]I am trying to make a reservation with Mr. T Taxi via email for this coming Saturday for a ride to Pattaya at 10:45. I did receive an email back asking for my last name, but then no real confirmation. Shall I assume I'm confirned? I sent two follow ups but haven't heard back. Any advice? Thanks.
They need to do a better job about returning emails.[/QUOTE]Thai companies are the worst when it comes to answering emails,
They need to put cell numbers as I bet they answer SMS quicker!
BK
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming; 1217272]Thai companies are the worst when it comes to answering emails,
They need to put cell numbers as I bet they answer SMS quicker!
BK[/QUOTE]Another alternative; [url]http://www.thelimopattaya.com/[/url]
On-line booking and quick confirmation, very reliable. 1200 baht to Pattaya. 1000 baht for return.
[QUOTE=Michi;1217232]Alternatively you can also try Keak Taxi 1000 going to PTY. 900 back. Pretty reliable as well. Never had trouble.[/QUOTE]Keak is at [url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url] And mobile phone 081-3401365. I have used them at 3AM to get back to BKK, no problem. They are reliable and cheap.
[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1217123]1st. So the 1st thing I noticed in Pattaya was the traffic. After an hour drive from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, traffic was pretty awful but I survived.[/QUOTE]This is a result of the floodings in Bangkok. A number of more well-healed residents of the capital have fled down the coast. They say Pattaya's hotels are pretty much fully booked for this reason. The taxi driver who took me to the airport from Pattaya a few days back was moaning loudly about "all the bloody bangkokers".
As for the rest of your "reservations" about Pattaya, well, there's a lot of Russian people, but they come mostly with their wives / girlfriends for a few weeks on the beach. I don't think the men do much mongering and I don't think the women offer themselves for sale. The exception to the last point is a few joints around the Walking Street, but they are also by far the most expensive venues in town.
As for my own experience in Pattaya, well, I got laid around 15 times in a week, so I cannot complain about the recreational value of the place. I would, however, say that these things tend to get boring after a while."Hello, handsome maaaan!" "Massage, massage!" "Where you goooing?" Many Pattaya veterans have solved the problem by finding themselves a girlfriend who caters to their daily needs, but (1) I usually don't stay for long enough to do that; and (2) I haven't the temper to spend breakfast and dinner with a mercenary. Instead I found myself drifting into ordinary bars and restaurants and try to fish out those women who can usually not be bar-fined. Simply for the sport and curiosity value of it.
My greatest find was the 30 yo manager of a bar on 2nd road (close to Soi Diana). She was extremely petite and actually not pretty. After midnight and with her bar hastily emptying she agreed to join me for a drink. It didn't take much persuasion to make her forego the remaining tips and come with me to my nearby hotel (Tim Boutique). She was very hot in bed. Most Thai girls tend to fuck you once or twice and then turn over in bed,"I want to sleep. Leave me alone". With this lady it was the opposite. I could not move one inch in my sleep before she grabbed my hand and started snugging me. After a couple of rebuttals she even allowed me to use her rear entry. I say "allow" in the sense of lying still and whimpering while I thrust myself at her hole. By now she obviously decided that I had a domination fetich, so started to weep while I pumped her rear, although there was evidently space enough and she was far from a virgin. After five minutes of beautiful acting she even managed to produce tears. After I had exploded inside her fanny I pointed to her wet eyes and smiled "nice show, honey". She grinned mischievously behind the tears and whispered "but you liked it, yes?"
This was my best experience in Pattaya this time round. So good that, contrary to my habits, I went back to the same woman on the next night (my last in patts). But, alas, that night was Loy Kratong and the bar had a party from which my little backdoor friend could not detach herself. Ah well, better luck next time.
After about 6 emails I finally got a confirmation. I mean, all they have to say is "your reservation is confirmed. We will have a sign with your name outside of arrival Gate 3."
Sheesh
[QUOTE=Kumbu;1027873]<cut> She came within 30 seconds, and she squealed about siaow leew. She pulled away from me, unable to take any physical contact for 60 seconds or so.[/QUOTE]Nice "in depth". If she had said "set laeew", it means she finished (orgasmed) already. Normally,"siaow laeew" means she is getting worked up or excited, but in this case could mean she is too sensitive to be touched. So it would be better attached to the 2nd sentence about pulling away.
Just included this note for those who don't know much Thai yet.
[QUOTE=Priamos; 1217391]This is a result of the floodings in Bangkok. A number of more well-healed residents of the capital have fled down the coast. They say Pattaya's hotels are pretty much fully booked for this reason. The taxi driver who took me to the airport from Pattaya a few days back was moaning loudly about "all the bloody bangkokers".
As for the rest of your "reservations" about Pattaya, well, there's a lot of Russian people, but they come mostly with their wives / girlfriends for a few weeks on the beach. I don't think the men do much mongering and I don't think the women offer themselves for sale. The exception to the last point is a few joints around the Walking Street, but they are also by far the most expensive venues in town.
As for my own experience in Pattaya, well, I got laid around 15 times in a week, so I cannot complain about the recreational value of the place. I would, however, say that these things tend to get boring after a while."Hello, handsome maaaan!" "Massage, massage!" "Where you goooing?" Many Pattaya veterans have solved the problem by finding themselves a girlfriend who caters to their daily needs, but (1) I usually don't stay for long enough to do that; and (2) I haven't the temper to spend breakfast and dinner with a mercenary. Instead I found myself drifting into ordinary bars and restaurants and try to fish out those women who can usually not be bar-fined. Simply for the sport and curiosity value of it.
My greatest find was the 30 yo manager of a bar on 2nd road (close to Soi Diana). She was extremely petite and actually not pretty. After midnight and with her bar hastily emptying she agreed to join me for a drink. It didn't take much persuasion to make her forego the remaining tips and come with me to my nearby hotel (Tim Boutique). She was very hot in bed. Most Thai girls tend to fuck you once or twice and then turn over in bed,"I want to sleep. Leave me alone". With this lady it was the opposite. I could not move one inch in my sleep before she grabbed my hand and started snugging me. After a couple of rebuttals she even allowed me to use her rear entry. I say "allow" in the sense of lying still and whimpering while I thrust myself at her hole. By now she obviously decided that I had a domination fetich, so started to weep while I pumped her rear, although there was evidently space enough and she was far from a virgin. After five minutes of beautiful acting she even managed to produce tears. After I had exploded inside her fanny I pointed to her wet eyes and smiled "nice show, honey". She grinned mischievously behind the tears and whispered "but you liked it, yes?"
This was my best experience in Pattaya this time round. So good that, contrary to my habits, I went back to the same woman on the next night (my last in patts). But, alas, that night was Loy Kratong and the bar had a party from which my little backdoor friend could not detach herself. Ah well, better luck next time.[/QUOTE]Great post! I actually enjoyed reading it! I think I want to try the back door tonight LOL!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1216529]I say, you better bring latex condoms than rubber boots.[/QUOTE]Pile of rubbish. Phuket is not wet / under water nor is Pattaya.
Well heeled BKK'ers can afford Pattaya Hotels, but there will be a lesser class feeling the pinch come the successful draining, then a 6 Billion dollar cleanup bill and the stench that follows. If follows that the helpers won't be raising cash near the family in case they are spotted.
What I like is Giotto's comments that is a buyers market in BKK because girls are helping out. Its not exactly as bad as I hoped for yet, but with more cancelled flights, things may become less lopsided. I am sure price will re-stimulate demand.
I am excited as another 3 weeks should see lots of 'new entrants' in the market raising cash to help out family. This should take some of the sting out of high season, and hopefully spread to Patts.
So any chance of Patts becoming more of a buyers market?
Thailand. The Other Venice <<<
(for old hands: there's nothing new here. just thought i'd liven up the forum with a full report.)
when you arrive in a place at 11pm, what is there to do? well, in pattaya, a hell of a lot. the gogo bars are open until 3 or 4am, and they only get going at about 9pm, so it's before the half-way point. i headed straight over to walking street for the top-of-the-range what's up. i have fond memories of this place from a few years ago, arriving relatively early and getting lots of attention from some very nice-looking girls. this time the place is humming. there's hardly a place to sit, but i'm found somewhere by the bathtub where a nice round soap-covered ass is sliding back and forth on the ledge right next to me. within seconds, i'm fingering a sweet and very clean pussy between that ass. it's good to be back! the thing you have to know about what's up is that half the girls are dancers only. no sex available. they will come and sit with you for drinks, which can become expensive quickly at 160bt a shot. so best to ask first, if you want her for later. (i'd forgotten this, but i was told by a chatty aussie bloke who sat next to me and seemed to know everyone.)
i went on to a few other places but i wasn't ready to pay gogo prices just yet. (what's up has a 1000bt bar fine; others are 600-700bt) i was more interested in freelance action to start things off. with hindsight, i should probably have headed for the mixx (one x or two?). the disco at the far end of ws. which has fls in droves, and some nice ones at that. but i went in the other direction, along beach road, probably because of memories of picking up some gems there on previous visits. i found one young-looking 20yo who tickled my fancy and off we went back to the pattaya bay resort. that's quite a trek. the thing about the pbr is that it is along the featureless soi 15 that bends around from 2nd road back behind the avenue. they have a taxi that will take you to 2nd road from the hotel but getting back is a bit of a pain unless you have the use of a phone to call them. well, it's not so bad, but less convenient that my previous digs at the queen vic in soi 6, which is a lot further from ws but much easier to get to and from because of the bhat buses.
the br girl was a nice start. she had on these very child-like shorts with teddy bears and the like. made the whole thing seem slightly taboo, although she was perfectly legal. slightly built thai girls are good the cute frog-like pose on hands and knees and tummy to the bed. that's the image i still have of her. on her way out the pbr front desk called up to my room to check that everything was ok. nice touch.
i was knackered from the flight so i didn't go out again that night. the next day, i was up fairly early thanks to jet lag. by midday i was horny as anything, knowing that i was surrounded by more available pussy per square mile than anywhere else on the planet. (is that true? comments anyone?) i had a plan that may seem odd. but the thing is, i like to be teased a bit. so i went along to dream teen (soi 21) for their 90 minute "oil and ball massage" (550bt) with the idea of not coming and then heading just around the corner to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for a quick and seedy bbbjcim (700bt). picked out dee from the dream teen line-up (looking very cute in green). she did a great sensual oil massage, plus the ball thing, which is basically a teasing hand-job although not to completion unless you go for a "special". i don't know what the cost of the "special" is. the fs option has been reported here, but there is also hj and bj, which are presumably less. clearly, not to have the special was unusual. dee was pretty disappointed because she only gets 40bt of the 550bt fee on the assumption that she'll make much more in "specials". i gave her a 100bt tip to make up for some of the disappointment. well, i was very aroused by this stage, as planned, but the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] finish was not to be. i went there but at 2pm the selection was very poor. (apparently, there would be more girls at 4pm.) plan b was to return to my old haunt. soi 6. always good for some afternoon action. i was not disappointed by bong (beng? bang?) , a slightly chubby young cutey who gave the required bbbjcim with greater skill than her youthful looks suggested she was capable of. all this with her fully clothed and me naked, which i like for a bj. she is a good kisser too. fs was included in the 1000bt price (700bt plus 300bt for the room) but i much preferred to go for the bj finish that i had planned. (can't remember which bar on soi 6. sorry. by strategy is just to walk along the soi, avoiding the lbs and scanning the groups of girls for one i like. i never return to a particular bar.)
seeing as this was just a stop-over, i wanted to fit in all my favourite thai street-food snacks, so meals between sex sessions consisted of pad thai, som tam, khao mun kai, etc. another fill-in is the traditional thai massage. the place i remembered from before is just off (10m or so) pattaya tai (the road heading inland just outside the gates of ws) on the first soi you come to on the left after the big temple. (incidentally, there is a night market in front of the temple with lots of good eats and relatively uninflated prices. i picked up a good leather belt for 100bt. no haggling necessary.) the massage lady is on the right. she is a devotee of dharmakaya and has dmc tv on all the time. she has been doing this for 30-odd years (possibly more) and has many pupils. two hours later i am walking on clouds.
a shower back at the hotel, and i'm ready for the gogo bars again. eventually settle on tae from super girl. moving well to the music, swaying her tight little ass and slightly pointy breasts, with long wavy hair, witchy eyes and full pouty lips. i was just about to leave the place when i saw her and so gambled on a good time without the usual chat first. the mammasan said she was inexperienced, having only arrived a month ago. i've been in this situation before. inexperienced has its plusses if you don't expect something different, and anyway, i just wanted that girl. as expected she was not that enthusiastic about sucking (and only with condom) and didn't want me to lick her. but still the sight of those lips on my dick made it all worthwhile. the thing that would have really put me off would have been a shy girl who was obviously not enjoying herself. tae was not that. she has spirit and a sexy cheekiness, sticking out her tongue and play hitting me if i tried something she didn't want. and her pussy was so fresh and tight. the kind that makes you want to come immediately. the damage: 700 bf + 2000 for her. on the expensive side but par for the course in the higher-end bars. i went back to ws and on to the mixx. after an invigorating shot of chocolate vodka in the ice bar with a polar bear. never really explored the mixx before. it was heaving, and there were plenty of opportunities for fl pick-ups, with the general standard a fair bit higher than br. but at that point jet lag hit me and i crawled back to the hotel alone.
my last day. i extended my room until 6. 30pm for half the day rate, mainly because i just wanted to relax a bit, do some laundry, and catch up with things online. but i couldn't leave without one more taste of thai pussy. this time, i didn't want to go hunting, so i was thinking of going for a soapie. but then i got a good idea. devil's den do outcalls, i remembered, and what could be a nicer way to spend my last afternoon than with a pair of sexy maids coming to my room? i checked out the girl's profiles online and made a short list. of the five i selected, three were available, and i picked gik and cory. the service is expensive (4000bt) but well worth it (to me). both girls were just as appealing in person as on the website. and cory especially, had a wonderfully sensual body with smooth skin and just the right amount of padding to make for a perfect coupling. they looked very sexy in their matching maid's outfits. black with white trim and fishnets and heels. which they kept on (at my request) throughout most of the session. (no panties, so easy access, and tits slipped out easily.)
i've you've had a dd threesome before, you'll know what it was like. otherwise, it's just as they advertise: like you are the director in your own porn film. the girls were very clever and ensuring safety (fresh condoms, antibaterial gels, etc) without it ever seeming forced. i had them kneeling on the floor sucking me together while i was sitting on the bed. 69ing each other while i stroked and kissed and fondled, on sitting on my face while the other sucked me, and of course i gave each of them a good fucking separately, in all available holes, while the other caressed and kissed. i'm sure that it would have been ok to have two shots, but it would have been a big effort for me to make the second after the past 48 hours, so i preferred to keep the tension until the end. but then how to finish? i would have loved to come in cory's mouth. she has a great sucking action and a cute, slightly freckled face. and spraying over two girl's faces would leave one with a great porn snapshot to go away with. (incidentally, no photos during outcalls. so only mental snapshots allowed.) in the end, though, i decided to come in cory's pussy from behind, wrapped around her very nice ass, while fondling gik's ass and kissing them alternately. awesome way to finish a two-day break in thailand. an hour later, i was on the bell travel bus (200bt) back to the airport.
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1217159]I am trying to make a reservation with Mr. T Taxi via email for this coming Saturday for a ride to Pattaya at 10:45. I did receive an email back asking for my last name, but then no real confirmation. Shall I assume I'm confirned? I sent two follow ups but haven't heard back. Any advice? Thanks.
They need to do a better job about returning emails.[/QUOTE]I've used Mr. Keak at Pattaya Taxi more than 15 times, and he's reliable, dependable, and inexpensive. His driver waits for you at the airport holding a sign with your name, and 90 minutes later you're at your Pattaya hotel safe and sound. Highly recommended.
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Trawlerman; 1217536](For old hands: there's nothing new here. Just thought I'd liven up the forum with a full report.)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post Trawler! It was really fun to relive some of my own memories through your report. A welcome break from all the bickering and ST vs LT discussion that is dominating the board lately.
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1217392]After about 6 emails I finally got a confirmation. I mean, all they have to say is "your reservation is confirmed. We will have a sign with your name outside of arrival Gate 3."
Sheesh[/QUOTE]You have no fucking idea. Try living here.
I'd like to give Stakeout a shout out for being a great guide and teaching me a lot about the mongering scene in Pattaya. He gave me info on Walking Street, Soi 6, Soi Honey and Soi Diana. Plus it was fun hanging out with another monger and having a wingman!
The first night, we hit went to several Go Go Bars on Walking Street as well as the regular bars where you play games with the girl you're interested in. It reminded me a lot of Angeles except pricier. As the night went on, picking a girl that met my standards became harder and harder because the good ones almost always get bar fined early leaving the average and lower. With my options decreasing by the minute, I decided to choose a young spinner from one of those big red bar areas. I choose her because she was cute, young and had a nice attitude. After the bar fine, we went clubbing at 2 or 3 different Discos. It was very fun because I like to dance and party. I had "Stakeout" a veteran monger with me and we randomly met up with two of her friends in the club too. After the disco, things started to go downhill. She was pretty much a dead fish in bed and wouldn't let me stick it in all the way. I made due with the situation and I managed to get her really wet and horny. Eventually she let me go in all the way and began to give out half hearted moans. You could tell she was trying to hold in the moans but she was having a hard time. I felt she went about twice before I unloaded in her. It was all covered of course because of all the warnings I've been receiving about the increase in Aids in the country. I won't and will not repeat. I saw her on the second night as well. She wanted to play a game with me but I told her no. I forgot what the bar or area was called but hopefully Stakeout can shed some info on it?
L. I'll give her a 6 before I went to be and a 4 after LOL. For some reason, they always look better when I barfine them and they have their clothes on. She was a bit chubbier than I expected with pretty small, deflated boobs. She says her age was 20 which is very believable.
S. Everything leading up to the sex was good which deserves a 8. With great chemistry and a very fun night, I was fooled into thinking we would have a great time in bed. I think I'll rate her a 4 in this category because I pretty much had to do all the work while she got to enjoy 2 climax's that I had to work and pay for LOL. I really should stay away from the young ones!
A. 6. She was really friendly and nice. I couldn't give her a negative score because it wasn't bad.
This time, I hit up walking street by myself like a big boy! I started the night by going to a few Go Go bars like baccarat. I had a hard time choosing a girl that met my higher standards and it didn't help that I started really late because of a late night nap. With slim pickings again, I ended up in another bar area, the one further down on the right side. I'm sure you vets know what I'm talking about. I had a really good time at this bar with a girl that I thought had a great face with a decent body. Playing Jinga, Shoot the Box and Connect Four was fun! I was also buying her shots of Jack Daniels at like $120 Baht a pop? I think it was worth it compared to buying her a girly or fruity drink. With her a bit tipsy and her grinding away on my privates, mama offered her to my at $300 Baht to barfine and $1500 for longtime. I know Stakeout said $1000 is more than enough for a longtime but I forgot and we really had good chemistry. Plus the mama was actually really nice to me so I agreed. Just like the previous night, we hit up the discos again. We drank a lot and by a lot, I mean a lot! One of the main reasons why I choose her was because she could dance and I was not disappointed at all by her. She really got me in the mood with a above average booty grinding on me all night long!
Eventually, around 3am, we jumped on a truck and went to a near by mini mart where she picked up a tooth brush. I thought that was pretty cool of her LOL. Then we stopped by another bar area right outside of my hotel LK Renaissance to have a few more drinks. We were both pretty drunk at this point. After we got to my room, we both took separate showers and got it on. It was much more enjoyable and better than the previous night. She allowed almost everything. I also got one pop in at night and another the next morning which I really didn't want to do because I wanted to save my mojo and spread my blessings to as many girls as possible LOL.
L. 7.5 Her face deserves a 7. 5 but her body gets a 5. She had decent size natural boobs. They were a bit saggy because she had a kid a few years back. She also had some belly fat due to giving birth as well. Her holes were all still pretty tight and in good shape LOL. I could tell she use to be pretty darn hot back before her child. She says she's 25 which again is believable LOL. I have a feeling she was one of the top girls at a Go Go bar until her child and than the body started to go. FYI I knew before I took her about the pregnancy fat but I didn't mind. She looked good in the clothes she was wearing.
A. 10 Great attitude, really aimed to please! I also had insurance if she wasn't good because the mama said I could return her and get someone else if she was bad. She drank like a champ, downing anything I threw in front of her. In bed, she allowed almost everything and I think I could of done things without a cover but I choose to stay covered. She even attempted anal with me half way in there but she couldn't bare the pain. Still cool though, just the attempt turned me really on, plus allowing FIA and in Doggy got me to go! I couldn't turn down the morning session as much as I tried. I wanted to save my self and try out Soi 6 or Soi Honey (Honey Spa) but she foiled those plans that *****! LOL.
S. 10 she was great in bed, a great dancer, a great drinking partner and tried to do everything I wanted. If her body was the same pre giving birth, she could of been GF material LOL. I have a feeling she offers great service to anyone that tries her.
So I had dinner with Stakeout and the Mall connected to the Hilton. We talked about the different mongering scenes and on how much I love the Philippines. Too bad Mr. Entertainment was stuck in Tokyo. The more the merrier!
So again we hit up Walking Street. I was determined to find me a dime, a stunner, someone with a great body and a good looking face to go with it. Attitude and Service needed to be top notch as well! After settling for some decent looking girls the first 2 nights, I was determined to find a girl that I wouldn't regret even if she offered pour service LOL. After hitting up several Go Go bars and regular Bars, it all came down to Peppermint. I really enjoyed Peppermint a lot with it being my favorite Go Go in Pattaya. They had several girls I was interested in, some of the performances were great with the girls really into and flirting with the guys on stage like how strippers in the US do. You could tell the crowd was into because Ping Pong balls were flying all over the place. The music was good too with a lot of American hip hop instead of techno. I had a hard time choosing between 5 girls but I managed to grab a tall, slender thai girl that seemed pretty shy. She said she's been only working for 2 months and she's 20. The barfine here was 600 baht which was really reasonable compared to all the other top notch Go Go spots on walking street. I choose to go with the long time for 3000 against better judgement but I didn't regret it even though I was just looking for one pop.
Same routine as other nights, I'd buy her drinks, we go dance at clubs like lucifer and stuff. Blah, blah, blah LOL. Come game time, I had her sit back so that I could really enjoy her body. I kissed her all over and went down on her. She climaxed a couple of times while giving out faint moans trying to hold it in. Is it just me or do thai girls not like to moan? I guess it's embarrassing plus she's shy? Then the cover came on and I worked her good. She worked herself good too while on top. As always, I hit the turbo boost button while she was climaxing. Do you guys know that button? A little light playing of her anal right around when she's about to climax sends her to another world LOL! Try it! Then we went to bed. She wakes me up around 4 am and asks if she could leave. I didn't mind plus she more than did enough to compensate the 3000 baht long time fee LOL. In my mind, I was thinking she woke up and couldn't go back to sleep and was bored out of her mind here trying not to wake me.
L. 8 She still wasn't that 10 I was looking for but her young, innocent face got me good! LOL. She had a decent body too with hardly any fat. Really small boobs, almost none but her butt compensated for that.
A. 10 She was shy yet, the chemistry was there. I think taking them dancing and having drinks always loosens them up and brings you and the girl closer. It makes them feel like it's more than a job but something fun?
S. 10 It's always nice when you get her to climax several times and on top of that, you climax at the same time for the final one.
I have a hard time remembering their names because they all sound the same. One girls name is Ai, another is On, another is Vee. LOL it goes on and on and on!
Thanks for the great reports, Chimmy31. Glad I could be of help. I really had a blast hanging out with you.
The big bar complexes on Walking Street you were referring to are called Rolling Stones. There is one at the beginning of Walking street to the right and one further up past the Insomnia disco, also to the right. I believe they are owned by a Norwegian guy.
Oh, and you obviously mean bahts when you wrote $, just so no one gets confused and thinks you meant US dollars, haha.
Well we have had the Uzbeks, the Nigerians, and now we have the Colombians. Last night at 3am I went into Mixx Disco and I started talking to the first girl I saw. She was sitting next to the door, a superstar. She didn't look Thai to me but sometimes I can't tell. I finally asked where she was from and she said Colombia. Then I told her "mentirosa," which means liar in Spanish. From there on out we were speaking in Spanish. She said that she was from Pereira. She had come to Thailand to "work." She had done 1 month in Bangkok and now she had already been in Pattaya for 1 month. I told her that I was going to circle the club but I would be right back.
Well by the time I got back some Middle Eastern guy had already scooped her up. I said damn, I told you I would be right back. She pointed another girl out and said it was her friend from Cali, Colombia. I said of course, I can tell by her ass. She appeared to have the classic Medellin ass implants. So I spoke to her quickly then made another circle around the club. I thought to myself that I should go ask them how much guys are giving them in Thailand. But when I got back around there was no sign of them. They went like hotcakes. Maybe I will go back there again tonight just to ask them.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1218402]Well we have had the Uzbeks, the Nigerians, and now we have the Colombians. -- snip[/QUOTE]Just another reason that Pattaya is such an interesting place! Pretty women from all over the world!
Even if you are just into mongering, or playing with Thai ladies, it makes for some lovely eye candy both on the street, and the beach. ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1218415]Just another reason that Pattaya is such an interesting place! Pretty women from all over the world!
Even if you are just into mongering, or playing with Thai ladies, it makes for some lovely eye candy both on the street, and the beach. .[/QUOTE]Eye candy?
In this case more like eye blubber, don't you think?
The Thai spinners beat these big Ruskies to shreds IMHO! :D
I love the cheap and convenient baht buses that operate on Beach Road and Second Road. Before I leave Pattaya, I am planning a visit to [B]the Outlet Mall[/B] At the crossing of Thep Prasit and Sukhumvit Road.
[B]What's the best way of getting there from Soi Diana? [/B]Motorbike taxi? Or should I take a communal baht bus up to Sukhumvit Road from either Pattaya Klang or Pattaya Tai? The communal 10-bht baht buses are available on these streets too, right?
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1218437]I love the cheap and convenient baht buses that operate on Beach Road and Second Road. Before I leave Pattaya, I am planning a visit to [B]the Outlet Mall[/B] At the crossing of Thep Prasit and Sukhumvit Road.
[B]What's the best way of getting there from Soi Diana? [/B]Motorbike taxi? Or should I take a communal baht bus up to Sukhumvit Road from either Pattaya Klang or Pattaya Tai? The communal 10-bht baht buses are available on these streets too, right?[/QUOTE]From where you are and if you consider the hot sun and time is money and convienance take the motorbike taxi, it should cost you no more than 70 baht which should get you there in 10 minutes if he or she doesn't use Sukhumvit. Maybe you already know? I go to the outlets a lot just to kill time when I have nothing to do. I pretty much do that when I'm also home in the States. You should know your prices since items are marked up and then sold as be 50% off. For example when it comes to Nike or sport shoes and clothing I have seen them cost more than it cost in the states. There are some deals but you need to know your prices?
Good luck, LBM
LOL. Ya, I miss those baht buses already! They were so easy to use! I also miss the Rolling Stones. Do you know of any in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1218150]Thanks for the great reports, Chimmy31. Glad I could be of help. I really had a blast hanging out with you.
The big bar complexes on Walking Street you were referring to are called Rolling Stones. There is one at the beginning of Walking street to the right and one further up past the Insomnia disco, also to the right. I believe they are owned by a Norwegian guy.
Oh, and you obviously mean bahts when you wrote $, just so no one gets confused and thinks you meant US dollars, haha.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1218434]Eye candy? In this case more like eye blubber, don't you think? The Thai spinners beat these big Ruskies to shreds IMHO! :D[/QUOTE]Daddy, nothin' wrong with a big, white girl once in awhile. Especially, when one is as big as Russian bear (BTW, my grandfather was born in NW Russia in 1900). Of course, for me at least, it's been a number of years since I've tasted that flavor.
And, besides, not all of us have a way with the SYT "spinners" like you do!
Daddy07,
I told you but you don't listen or you're just scared to find out? Now F. T. Is telling you go BIG sometimes, even they got to have some love?
See! That's where the Big comes after the Little!
Next time your at Bac. Instead of checking out that spinner upstair from downstair check out that Chang. She will rock your world and stampede your old ass to the hospital. My buddy (dark glasses) took her last night and he called this morning and said he had to be carried out of his hotel room and taken to the International hospital. When I saw him he was in the emergency with muscle spasm throughout his back and neck. They shot him up with muscle relaxers and pain killers but when he woke up he smile and said " that was one hell of a ride ".
Do like me turn off the a/c and put your comforter on the floor and go to work on the sweet spot, once she start to break out in a sweat that's when the fun starts? Her thick thighs now up pressing against your ears it feels like you are swimming underwater. Now slowly rock her and let her heavy thighs roll you over on the bottom and let the force be with you. While she is on top have her pull you up and hug like a big bear so you can suck her tits then have her fall backwards and you will automatically flip up like you were on a swing! Last, get her from the back and pound her until you get a blast of gas!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1218452]From where you are and if you consider the hot sun and time is money and convienance take the motorbike taxi, it should cost you no more than 70 baht which should get you there in 10 minutes if he or she doesn't use Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]Thanks, LBM!
The Colombian girls came up and talked to me last night. I didn't even recognize them. They looked much better the first night. The first night there were only 2, but last night there were 4. I asked them how much they get for services. They said 3,500 / hour. I said no for all night. And they said 7,000. I won't ever tell someone what price they should put on their body, but I'm still not understanding how foreign women try to move in on the local market and charge extraordinary prices. It must be working though because once again they were getting scooped up (or maybe they didn't quote the prices beforehand).
After a five year hiatus (can't believe it has been five years) , I have finally returned to the LOS. Here are just a few notes thus far:
1. The lady at the desk of Cathay Pacific thought it was silly to think that there might be any cancelled flights to BKK. Silly me. Anyway, the 15 hour flight from SFO to HK was packed, while the 3 hour flight from HK to BKK had plenty of open seats. The two hour ride to Pattaya was taxing yet necessary. I was generous and gave the taxi guy 1, 500Baht.
2. Visited one of the SabaiDee Land massage parlors, there are three of then so I can never figure out which is which. However, this one had two seperate fishbowls and was quite spacious. Picked a petite little lady who called gerself Kim. Sort of the usual fair with the body-slide, tub, followed by a ride in the bed. But it was a nice refresher since I hadn't experienced it in a while. Approx. 2,000Baht for time well spent.
3. I have also paid a visit to the Devil's Den. I initially booked for Cookie & Dew but apparently Cookie wasn't available so I agreed to the team of Dew & Toni. They made an OK team, esp. Considering that Thai chicks generally are NOT very good when it comes to menage a trois. Dew was a cool cat and she spoke English pretty well & she said she also speaks Cambodian. Toni's English was pretty much non-existent. My only complaint is that Dew kept trying to do stuff to my butthole. Not really my cup of tea though I realize that a lot of guys who go to the DD are into such things. 4,400Baht for two hours with two cute dames, not a bad deal.
4. Lot's of folks visiting here in Pattaya at this time. The more the merrier I say. I have also noticed the increased presence of Eastern Europeans, but this has already been discussed ad nauseum so I will mention it no further.
5. Walking street is a porn-o-copia of sin. Multi-stop sex. If you don't like the bar or Go-Go that you're at, then you have about fifty others to choose from in a very concentrated area.
6. I signed up at Tony's PowerStation gym which is right on walking street. Not the biggest gym in the world but it has a decent selection of heavy metal plates and machines. A good place for meat-heads like me. The entrance is a bit hard to find because it's at the back of a bar, but there is a large sign with the words Power Station outside. So just look up.
Lastly, things here are still so cheap that it's almost obscene. Nonetheless, I prefer the scene in Europe & Latin America despite the significantly higher costs.
Still have a few days left here. So much sin left to do.
- DSK
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1218746]The Colombian girls came up and talked to me last night. I didn't even recognize them.They looked much better the first night. The first night there were only 2, but last night there were 4. I asked them how much they get for services. They said 3,500 / hour. I said no for all night. And they said 7,000. I won't ever tell someone what price they should put on their body, but I'm still not understanding how foreign women try to move in on the local market and charge extraordinary prices. It must be working though because once again they were getting scooped up (or maybe they didn't quote the prices beforehand).[/QUOTE]The only reason why these foreign girls are taken in asian can be in customers willing to try a latin or a CIS chick aware they will never travel to those countries. The girls charge premium prices as they want to earn based on home income, not on a thai pad meal price. In addition there is less competition, ie they are kind of exotic there, so they do not have to be stunners to win your heart, whilst at home they have to face a tough competition. So a mediocre latin can earn better in Asia than at home. I myself ticked the Russian box in a sauna in Macau, an African one in KL. But I would not be ready to match those prices, 'though. Has all to stay within reason.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1218746]The Colombian girls came up and talked to me last night. I didn't even recognize them. They looked much better the first night. The first night there were only 2, but last night there were 4. I asked them how much they get for services. They said 3,500 / hour. I said no for all night. And they said 7,000. I won't ever tell someone what price they should put on their body, but I'm still not understanding how foreign women try to move in on the local market and charge extraordinary prices. It must be working though because once again they were getting scooped up (or maybe they didn't quote the prices beforehand).[/QUOTE]You got to remember LOL, because its not made in Thailand there is a import tax of 40, the only population that believe there is a global economy is Americans and the Western world.
It's been awhile that I had a Colombian hot chick but no way I'm paying that price here. I can get 2 or 3 girls that look like Latiinas for that price and pretend that they are?
I'm sure they can come as freelancers but mainly the Russians, Nigerians are here because the Mafia has payoff Immigration to get them long term Visa. The Nigerians were coming in on Education Visa and when things started to get out of hand in Bangkok the BIB, had to do something and acted like they didn't know a thing. In my opinion before the floods I notices a reduction of Africians on Sukhumvit and Pattaya.
Now its the Mafia from Colombians it doesn't surprise me since they have been running weapons to the Golden Triangle for years. If the price evers comes down I might relent?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1218524]Do like me turn off the a / see and put your comforter on the floor and go to work on the sweet spot, once she start to break out in a sweat that's when the fun starts? Her thick thighs now up pressing against your ears it feels like you are swimming underwater. Now slowly rock her and let her heavy thighs roll you over on the bottom and let the force be with you. While she is on top have her pull you up and hug like a big bear so you can suck her tits then have her fall backwards and you will automatically flip up like you were on a swing! Last, get her from the back and pound her until you get a blast of gas!
LBM[/QUOTE]You sure do know what you're talking about, LBM, but alas, as for me, I'm just not into [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord139][CodeWord139][/url]. :D
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick;1218754]I signed up at Tony's PowerStation gym which is right on walking street. Not the biggest gym in the world but it has a decent selection of heavy metal plates and machines. A good place for meat-heads like me. The entrance is a bit hard to find because it's at the back of a bar, but there is a large sign with the words Power Station outside. So just look up.- DSK[/QUOTE]Actually, the signage outside is an image of a guy and the words say 'Tony's Entertainment Complex'. The gym is located behind sort of hookah lounge called the 'Abyzz'. Just wanted to set things straight.
- DSK
Of the flesh!
Just a quick breakdown of some of the Go-Gos I've visited.
Alcatraz: Pretty much your standard Go-Go, the upstairs area with the girls in cages is a nice touch. A decent number of pretties here.
Angel Witch: As usual, this place is great for artsy & imaginative shows. But it is hard to check out the talent while a show is going on. And some of the shows last a long time. I did manage to check out a few some cuties here.
Iron Club: I liked the design & atmosphere of this place. Hotties dressed in spider-webbed clothes and other hotties in a big wash tub playing around and lots of interaction with the crowd. I tipped them well. It has the feel of a runway show. I guess that's a good thing. No?
Polo: A few real babes in this Go-Go. Has an Arabian-Belly dance theme to the place. They were aggressive about buying expensive drinks (600Bahts) and hookahs for the dames (600 to 1, 000Bahts) ; hell, I don't even like to smoke. But I may return because of some of the babes I saw there. Definitely more expensive than the other Thai Go-Gos.
Galaxy: Now if you want to splurge and spend a lot of baht then this is the place to go. Hard to resist the European babes posing on the stairway. The minute I stepped in the joint they assigned two hotties from Moldova to me. Between drinks for them & me (3 people) the tab was 1, 000Baht already. At least didn't buy a champagne bottle for 6,000Baht. I'm used to spending cash like this in Europe, but this is the LOS! None-the-less, I hung around for a bit to take in the scene. The place definitely has some hot women from the EB. I even saw a rather attractive black lady in there. Not sure if she is from Africa or the Caribbean or what. Visiting Galaxy was a nice change of pace, but after a while I had to head back to the reality of the LOS. I can get Europeans at much lower prices at the German FKKs.
Lollipop: located below Galaxy & Polo is this little Go-Go. I actually had a good time at this place. Hooked up with couple of wild little Thai hotties. Go figure.
As usual YMMV and indeed it will. Still want to check out a few other places.
- DSK
warning: do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.
backstory: i published part i in oct. below is part i (which were the events from days 1 to 5) and part ii (days 6 to 30). if you want to see pictures, pm me with your info and e-mail address so i can e-mail you the pdf file with photos embedded. i created a ms word & pdf file with the photos embedded (sorry but the ladies are fully clothed. i don't do nude photos since even some of the escorts over 20 look **** and i don't want to be busted for supposedly kiddie porn). but because the pdf file is. 9 mb it's too large to upload via an isg report attachment (pdf limit of. 4 mb).
a quick gogo review of imho the best:
for hotties (i prefer spinners) : superbaby, supergirl, baccara, happy.
off-ws (walking strip) for hotties + easier to negotiate a lower price: worldwide.
for sleazy stuff (buy lds and get head from the chicks right there in the club, banana shows, audience participation) : windmill, babydolls, x-zone.
party atmosphere: airport, what's up.
show: angelwitch.
off-ws go-go area: soi lk metro which had original champagne gogo and now also submarine, kiss, office, mash gogos.
club: insomnia especially from 2 am. 6 am.
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exchange rate b (aht) 30. 5 = us $1 (or b100 = $3. 40)
most items listed (eg height, weight, age) are approx.
thailand's a beautiful country with an amazing culture, friendly people, great food and low prices. since i'm sex-centric i mostly focus on its mongering aspects. in no way do i mean to disrespect thailand's people / women, criticize any improper english (if anything, i'm the ugly american who still can't speak thai after 7 visits) and such. even absent the mongering, i'd say los is a better country to retire to than the land of the brave, home of the free.
table of contents.
section 1: monger glossary.
section 2: amex's background.
section 3: escort looks / pricing.
section 4: logistics / touristy.
section 5: sexcapades / journal.
section 1: monger glossary (see.
[url]www.urbandictionary.com[/url]
for more detailed info)
cim = cum in mouth (cof = come on face ie money-shot)
cum in mouth; finish in your mouth = usually i have to accompany this request with a hand gesture towards her mouth; i guess it's an infrequent request from johns.
bareback = no condom / cover; could be with vaginal, oral or anal intercourse.
boom-boom = intercourse, every escort knows this term.
boom-boom ass; fuck ass = anal intercourse.
smoke; blowjob; sucky-sucky = some escorts will know that 'smoke' means bj but some will think it's cigarettes, and an escort may or may not know what 'blowjob' &/or 'sucky-sucky' means. usually i have to say 2 or 3 slang terms and gesture with my hand towards her mouth for her to realize i want bj (s).
bbbj = bareback blowjob ie opposite of a cbj (covered / condom bj) ; usually if a los escort does bjs, it's a bbbj but occasionally they'll insist on a cbj
3-holer / three-holer = does vaginal, oral and anal.
starfish = just lays in bed ie a terrible lay.
runner = tries to leave early eg if you negotiated lt but she leaves after 1 pop.
pse = porn star experience eg (acting) she's like jenna jameson during filming.
gfe = girlfriend experience eg does what a cool, regular girlfriend would do with you except the escort's getting paid for her st / lt.
fs = full service (conventional vaginal intercourse unless anal fs is specified) , aka "boom-boom"
bf = barfine, commission paid to business by john so he can go with an employee / escort.
st = short time (eg 1 pop) , lt = long time (generally 1st pop, sleep then 2nd pop)
agogo / gogos = gentlemen clubs, dancers in skimpy outfits, or mostly / fully nude.
beer bar = bars where employees can be barfined; they wear regular clothes.
fl = (pro) freelancers who tricks regularly, escorts who work independently or off-duty from their workplace; john doesn't pay a barfine but riskier sees she may not be affiliated with a business / supervisor.
amateur fl = rarely takes a john or trying it for the first time; may be a student, hair stylist, on vacation, out drinking / partying / clubbing, in-between regular jobs, wants $ for shopping / make rent / pay bills, etc.
br = beach road, the west facing 1. 5 mile beach / strand running from north's soi 2 to south's soi 15; br aka cb = coconut bar (trees line along the strand) w / lots of fl
soi = street; soi 2. 16 run perpendicular (ie west-east) to br which runs north-south.
ws = walking street, highest concentration of gogos / beer bars & where most clubs (locals call them discos) are located (lucifer, candy shop, marine, and in one building there's insomnia aka iclub upstairs and on the ground floor there's ibar) ; prices typically higher on ws than in other neighborhoods.
soi 6 = (near pattaya's north end; ws is near pattaya's south around soi 15) , concentration of cathouses specializing in st where b 1, 000 ($34) = b 300 for barfine & use of st room upstairs + b700 escort's fee.
spinner = petite chick eg < 5' 4", < 100 lbs.
sloppy tits / boobs / breasts = they sag unattractively, really noticeably if she's large-chested.
monger = short for *monger; escort connoisseur
p4p = pay for play, prostitution.
ld = lady drink you buy her which she gets a commission out of from the business.
baht bus; songtaew = sometimes called taxi it's only b10 ($.34) per person per shuttle ride, these converted pick-up tricks bus-system run specific circular routes but can also be hired as a private taxi (there's also 'meter taxi' or 'private (hire) taxi' available)
obscure terms i made up or simply uncommon:
fled = to hire a freelancer (as opposed to barfining an escort from a business)
teenie = she's < 18 (ie ****)
tit = this is thailand (instead of tia, this is africa)
mini-me = my 2nd head in charge when i'm mongering, sometimes with bad / expensive consequences.
section 2: amex's background.
1) i was in pattaya (patts) 10 oct. 8 nov and the rains / floods weren't an issue. medium sized tourist crowds whereas dec. jan is the busiest. not too many johns (guys who hire escorts) or much overcrowding in the gogos.
- i haven't gotten laid since pi (philippines) oct. nov 2010 so the dry spell is over, hallelujah. i was last in patts apr 2010 which is what i'm comparing patts oct 2011 to.
- i'm a cheap charlie amex but i'm worried i may not be the monger i used to be (major difference is that i'm now an unemployed, poor college student, again).
- for a budget which i really should adhere to (darn you, temptation and patts reasonable prices!) i wanted to spend total < b (aht) 3, 000 (<$100) per day with these sub-totals:
a) non-discretionary: hotel / laundry = per day sub-total b700 ($23) = room b50 ($18) + tip maid b20 ($.70) + occasional tip to front desk clerk / security guard / misc b20 ($.70) + laundry expenses (i use a laundry shop on soi p. 72 (next to p. 72 hotel & restaurant) who's cheaper than paying hotel laundry service) which comes out to b280 ($9. 50) w / tips per week.
be) discretionary: per day sub-total b2, 300 ($77) = anything other than the hotel / laundry (sex, entertainment, bar-hopping, food)
- discretionary budget priority 1 are escorts (ie sex) which if i stick with freelancers = sub-total b1, 000+ ($34+) = 2 short times (with 2 different escorts) or 1 long time = but if she's from a business (gogo, beer bar.) or an expensive freelancer then it could cost me as much as b 2, 100 ($61) = gogo barfine b600 ($20) + escort long time (st) services for b1, 500 ($51).
- discretionary budget priority 2 is everything else (gogo / club / bar-hopping, transportation, food, entertainment, etc) = sub-total b1, 300 ($37) which goes by really fast when i'm hitting 7+ gogos in one night with a drink (s) at each one + possibly buying lady drinks / tipping the waitresses / dancers.
- due to my affinity for gogos (hot nude women) , buying lady drinks and my impatience (i don't stay at one place long so throughout the night i visit too many places) staying within budget's hard. sometimes i under tip but i'm more likely to over tip. my rationale is that looking back on life (especially when travelling to poor countries where $.25. $1 is a significant tip to a local) i regret much more the times i've under-tipped than the times i over-tipped. sometimes i shouldn't even be tipping but i do it partly because i figure i can't take it with me (money to my grave / afterlife / whatever).
- since local thais regularly mistake me for japanese or korean (both having a rep to be liberal spenders) women (dancers / bargirls / freelancers and so on) are immediately attracted to me. that's good but they'll try to highball me on long-time (lt) or short-time (lt) services (thinking i'll pay jap / korean tourist prices even though i told 'them i'm american) so then i have to be more aggressive with negotiating it down.
in los / pi i usually pop 1/2 a kamagra pill, which is generic viagra, prior to round 1 with a new escort if i'm also doing fs. if i just want a hj &/or bj then no kamagra.
- over the course of shopping for an escort i can't negotiate a deal with 1. 10+ women because they say no deal (they weren't interested, i wasn't willing to pay enough or for whatever reasons) or during negotiations i realize she's not what i want at that moment (turns out to be a butter face, won't do bjs, too old, she's ****, has kid (s) , etc). so it's not always a walk on the beach for me to find a st / lt.
section 3: escort looks / pricing.
- generally the escort's attractiveness is gogo ws fl beer bar soi 6 cb fl. hotness is entirely subjective and sometimes there are ugly gogos and hot cb fl so it just depends.
- my ideal chicks are fl (preferably amateur) that are also tiny spinners (< 5' 3", < 90 lbs) with straight, black long hair, little to no make-up, full a cups or as large as c cups. 18. 22 why / o, no kids, does bbbj+cim, three-holer, i prefer the hot girl-next-door-type but i'll take a hot model-type (eg i would rather bang natalie portman than giselle bundchen). of course i rarely score my ideal chicks since i'm an unemployed, poor cheap charlie and i try to only pay st b500 ($17) , lt b1, 000 ($34). i want to avoid barfines but sometimes i'll use soi 6 or consider getting a gogo / beer bargirl, or i up the price i pay for st / lt to get better fls.
- i do prefer gfe where she's low-maintenance (negotiations were easy, for bj &/or fs she's easy-going not giving me absurd limitations / complaining) , cool to go eat with and talk to (on the rare occasions i actually have an interest / need to speak / listen to her) and such.
- barfines are non-negotiable, the st / lt fee the john pays to the escort is negotiable so a handsome and / or charismatic player could in theory bang fl chicks entirely for free. what you get also depends on your negotiation skills: a john could convince the girl to let him have 2+ pops during his st.
- these are typical retail prices (before negotiations) in my limited experience but it does vary from business to certain other businesses and escorts sometimes highballs you so it's worthwhile to negotiate (it helps if she genuinely wants to go with you because she likes your personality and / or looks). my suggestion is when you're at a business find out the retail price from the mamasan or waitress and negotiate directly with the escort for b 500+ ($17+) discount off the retail price, in addition to agreeing on the terms (stay with you until 9 am, cim, whatever).
- gogo st = total b2, 600 ($86) = bf b600 ($20) + escort b2, 000 ($66)
- gogo lt = total b3, 600 ($120) = bf b600 ($20) + escort b3, 000 ($100)
these are the gogos st / lt retail prices at superbaby group (superbaby agogo, supergirl agogo) and the baccara group (baccara, happy, peppermint, beach, cavern) , all of their agogos being on ws. a few gogos (eg what's up, playgirl, also on ws) has a bf b1, 000 ($34) and higher st / lt prices, or variable bf prices depending on if you get a dancer, coyote (ugly dancer) girl, showgirl, etc. at an off-ws gogo (eg soi 7 & soi 8 area, soi lk metro, soi post office) retail prices are generally lower with st fee of b1, 500 ($50) and lt b2, 500 ($82).
- beer bar st = total b1, 300 ($43) = bf b300 ($10) + escort b1, 000 ($33)
- beer bar lt = total b2, 300 ($76) = bf b300 ($10) + escort b2, 000 ($66)
- cb fl (coconut bar freelancer) st b 500 ($17) , lt b 1, 000 ($34)
- giving her taxi money is optional. of course all tipping (to gogo waitresses, beer bar bartenders, to an escort for st / lt, etc) is optional.
- gogo bottled water (for myself) = b110 ($3. 70)
- gogo (regular) ld = b115 ($3. 80) , be aware that the escort may order a premium ld / bottled beer.
- beer bar bottled water = b60 ($2)
- beer bar (regular) ld = b100 ($3. 40) , but at vertigo beer bar in front of happy gogo a ld is b150 ($5)
- club bottled water (at insomnia / ibar, marine.) = b110 ($3. 50)
- i try to only patronize gogos with good happy hours (which sometimes is all-night long) deals such as: at baccara group properties the draft domestic beer b59 ($2) , at airport agogo heineken draft b85 ($2. 70)
- typical closing times: soi 6 cathouses 1 am, gogos / beer bars 3:30 am. for ibar 5:30 am, insomnia at 8 am or so.
section 4: logistics / touristy.
1) airport trans.
taxi from the airport (or to)
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
- i paid fare b1, 000+tip b240 ($34+tip $8). my plane arrived 1 hr late (at 12:45 am instead of 11:45 pm) but my chauffeur was patiently waiting for me and i rode in a nice toyota minivan.
- driving time was about 1 am. 2:30 am.
- since the bell trans airport shuttle cuts off by 7 pm, i couldn't use them.
shuttle to the airport (or from)
[url]www.belltravelservice.com[/url]
- b200 one way but hours of operation is approx 6 am to 7 pm depending on your route.
2) jasmine hotel.
[url]http://bit.ly/rl9z6q[/url]
- nothing fancy but wi-fi and satellite tv works and the room meets my needs (shower, sex, sleep, mini-fridge) and my long-term rate is only b550 / night ($18 / night) , normally it's b700 / night ($23).
3) cellphone 085-xxx-xxxx.
- i bought a new sim chip b80 ($3) and am using it with my unlocked gsm phone.
- the store also sells a brand-new nokia 1280 unlocked gsm phone.
[url]http://amzn.to/qcu4je[/url]
for b990 ($33).
4) misc.
[url]www.pattayafloatingmarket.com[/url]
[url]http://bit.ly/otfdoa[/url]
[url]www.pattayacity-seatravel.com[/url]
b1, 500 ($50) for 3 island activities, etc.
[url]www.plcpattaya.com[/url]
[url]www.tlslanguageschool.com[/url]
owner mr. chris gleeson, brother / manager mr. mick gleeson.
muay thai.
[url]http://www.fairtex-muaythai.com/web/home.html[/url]
some guy wrote at.
[url]http://bit.ly/psrhip[/url]
"when i was at big c xtra last week someone put a flyer on my motorbike about the muay thai so i decided to pay the place a visit. as lbm said it is held at fairtex right off thepprasit road on soi 2. you can't miss the place because soi 2 is such a short street and in front of the place you will see a lighted statue of two guys boxing. the matches are held every wednesday starting at 8pm and ending around midnight (website says monday, thursday, and saturday for some reason.) the tickets are 1200 baht for normal bleacher seats and 1500 baht for vip (website says 1000 & 1200) , which consists of white plastic chairs on the floor. the guy that showed me around the place said the matches are shown on t sports channel. the website for the venue is.
[url]http://www.fairtex-muaythai.com/web/home.html[/url]
"
excerpts from.
[url]http://bit.ly/qu979d[/url]
"the regular go go clubs in pattaya don't have a cover charge, and any that does is a rip off. the nastiest go gos have a lot of "audience participation" in the club, but this isn't an official scheduled "show." it's pretty much continuous except for shift changes.
for example, in x-zone there are several small stages. at one of them, i had my fist up one girl's pussy while i did another with a banana. all you have to do is buy them a drink or two or maybe tip them 100 baht.
windmill seems to be famous for dancers who let you eat their pussy while they're on stage or in the jacuzzi. but it's not just the girls on stage. the ones who aren't dancing will sit with you for some action also.
baby doll's is well known for "hands on" girls. while sitting at a small stage watching 2 girls doing a lesbian show, another dancer sat down next to me and started playing with my cock. after i bought her a drink she took it out and started sucking on it. one of the girls on stage hung her head over the side and got in a few sucks too.
those 3 may be the best known nasty places, but there are plenty of other "hands-on" spots.
there are touts on walking street who try to get you to go to places with "shows" like you might think of in bangkok. for the most part these are rip-offs and should be avoided. angelwitch does shows, but they are classy, choreographed things, not live sex."
[url]http://www.thai-anxiety.com/massage.htm[/url]
nini tailors on 2nd road across from the royal garden plaza / marriott hotel.
- dress shirt b 700 ($23)
- slacks b 1, 250 ($41)
- blazer / sport coat b $3, 000 ($99)
- suit (really 1 pair of slacks + 1 blazer) b 4, 250 ($140)
to custom make the suit takes 1 measurement and 2 – 3 fittings.
for future orders: once nini has your measurements recorded they can make your order and mail it to you internationally.
section 5: sexcapades / journal.
notes:
- in amex's los time, a day runs approx. 3 pm until 6:30 am the next day. so even though my plane actually landed at 12:45 am 11 oct, it's still day 1:10 oct, at least until 6 am.
- friend # = escort i hooked up with at min. getting a bj.
- scoring system: a = great, b = good, c = average, d = bad, f = terrible. i'll rate the women on 1) face 2) body 3) service (her personality & gfe + if she's good in bed). her overall a / b/c / d/f score is based on 50% service + 50% attractiveness (face + body).
- for sex i prefer bareback anal bbbj bareback vaginal condom anal cbj condom vaginal. in angeles city (philippines) nov 2010 from an escort i caught gonorrhea in the genitalia and left-eye (doctor said vaginal fluid could be transmitted to the eye) because of my stupid vaginal &/or anal barebacking on 5+ escorts (not in the same night) and going down on 3+ chicks. so, i've gone back to not going bareback for vaginal / anal intercourse and not going down on an escort. that put's bareback anal and bareback vaginal out of the question so when mongering i prefer bbbj condom anal cbj condom vaginal. i'm so freakin' lazy that i would rather receive a bbbj or even cbj then do vaginal intercourse (unless it's bareback, which i wouldn't do with an escort) since a bj involves minimum effort on my part. since i'm paying for it i don't want to over-exert myself during sex. now if an escort will do the holy trifecta (oral+vaginal+anal) and there's no anal surcharge, i'm willing to exert myself.
- typically before round 1 (including intercourse) i'll pop ½ a kamagra pill (special k) , which is generic for viagra. if i only want a bj then i won't pop special k.
- every photo of the escorts was after the round (s) , so they don't look their best (make-up messed up, clothes disheveled). i intended to take before photos but mini-me almost always made me forget so i ended up with after photos mostly.
day 1: mon / 10 oct: miss-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], friend 1.
friend 1 (see photo) , kwang, age 21 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face a + body b. does cim, swallows. her, her 3 friends and a (russian?) guy were drinking at ibar when i met them around 4 am. i asked the guy if i could talk to her (make sure i'm not hitting on someone he's with) and he was cool. she ends up coming back to my place, says she's horny, we shower together as prep for round 1, in bed she does a good bj, moans during intercourse, does cim and swallows without batting an eye. says that night business at the gogo was slow because it was raining so much (apparently prior to me getting to patts at 2:30 am).
first pop at 5:45 am, slept until 7 am, then she gets up. it's mostly dark in the hotel room but i can see her and i'm wondering if she's goofing around when she opens my closet (see photo) , sits down but then starts peeing. wtf, i didn't know if she was still slightly inebriated, just drowsy, or messing with me. i grab her, tell her "the bathroom's over there" so she finishes in the bathroom. she comes to bed, seems to be in the mood, so we ended up going for round 2. considering how good in bed she is i can tolerate the miss-peeing. she's asleep until 12 noon, we do round 3, get lunch for baht 130 ($4. 50) consisting of chicken fried rice, pork / intestines fried rice+egg and 2 cokes. we sleep until 6 pm, i'm too jet-lagged for round 4, she says she doesn't recall peeing in my closet, and we part ways.
epilogue (ie by the end of the trip) : the next evening i visit her at casnovy and buy her a ld b120 ($4). a week or 2 later i visit casnovy again and simply tip her b60 ($2, cheaper than buying a ld + tip to the waitress). on my last fri in patts i visit her one last time to buy her 1 last ld, she tells me that her 21st birthday is sat / 5 nov and she'll probably celebrate at ibar. i was planning on seeing if she was at ibar (after she gets off from casnovy at 3 am) that sat and maybe even fled her for lt b 1, 000 ($34) again but i ended up with friend 31 for lt that night.
on friend 1 escort costs i spent $44 = fled lt b1, 000 ($34) + 2 ld equaling b240 ($8) + tip b60 ($2). had i bf her from casnovy the retail price was lt b3, 600 ($120) = bf b600 ($20) + escort b3, 000 ($100). i felt somewhat guilty not tipping her and not giving her taxi money when she left that afternoon after our 3 rounds. in retrospect during a round i should have also checked to see if she'd do anal. as it turns out, during my los trip she was the only fl off-duty gogo i was with and she had the best / most attractive face of friends 1. 31.
day 2: tue / 11 oct: referral, friend 2.
friend 2, jit, age 21, 5' 3".95 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face c + body a (damn near perfect for me). does anal, cim. fl i met at insomnia around 4 am. friend 2 has an ok face but then turns out to have a near-perfect tiny spinner physique. about 4:30 am for round 1 and i test the anal-waters. she had done anal before but was reluctant to try it with me. so i 1) use lots of ky. 2) offered my fingers / pinky / side of my hand (opposite thumb-side) for her to bite on while she's enduring the anal discomfort / pain and 3) i only did anal after i (tried to) satisfy her vaginally with intercourse and fingering. so she lets me go in the backdoor, my left-hand hurting because she's biting in to it but fortunately she didn't break the skin / draw blood. i really don't know if she enjoyed anal but we did at least 2 positions: missionary and woman-on-top. when she was on top (mini-me in her bunghole) she still bit into my hand but seemed a little more relaxed with the anal action. around 2 pm we had round 2 (no anal, sadly) , lunch, and she left. 2 nights later she called for a hook-up but i told her "sorry, i find 'another lady" which i kinda regret since she had a dope body, does anal & cim.
epilogue: friend 2 and some of her friends hooked at insomnia every night it seemed. when i ran into her again at iclub on two different occasions i bought her san miguel lights. so on escort associated costs i spent b1, 360 ($44) = lt b1, 000 ($34) + 2 insomnia beers equaling b340 ($11. 20, or $5. 60 per beer). again i felt guilty (darn you, conscience) for not tipping her for her exemplary fl services or even giving taxi money. so her and i were on pretty amicable terms, which i think helped when i fled her friends friend 8 and friend 22 (i have no recollection of their names) on separate occasions later on the trip.
day 3: wed / 12 oct, runner 1, friend 3.
friend 3, age 22, 5' 4".100 lbs. st b1, 000 ($34). overall b = service b + face c + body b. does anal, cim. has 1 kid. fl i met at insomnia about 6 am. at my place after the vaginal stuff i try the exact same routine from friend 2. i 1) use lots of ky. 2) she bites on my fingers / hand 3) anal only after the vaginal. she says she's never done anal and is reluctant to but does let me go in the backdoor. we did that in missionary position, i don't remember if she went on top, and we did it doggie style but with both our bodies laying down on our left-side. we sleep a little but she's a runner who won't do round 2 and at 8 am is leaving. we argue if she deserves b500, b700 or b1, 000. she says if she knew it was only b 500 she would not have gone with me and that she always gets b 1, 000. i say i want round 2 even if it's just a bj. i decide screw it, give her the b 1, 000 and she leaves. yes, i overpaid for what amounted to a fl st, at most i should have coughed up b 700. but the extra b 300 ($10) saved me the hassle of arguing with her in my hotel room (where my netbook, camera, cellphone, etc are lying around) and i did stick her in the ass plus she was really good in bed.
epilogue: when i picked her up at the club i should have made it clear st b500 ($17) or lt b1, 000 ($34). from then i make my pay rates clear prior to taking an escort for st / lt.
day 4: thu / 13 oct, no boom-boom, friend 4.
1:30 pm i check out soi 6, selection seemed limited and hardly any cuties. going from ws to / from soi 6 along the beach road (aka coconut bar) the fl selection is anemic.
9 pm i'm at worldwide agogo on beach road (between soi 7 & 8) and am pleasantly surprised by the selection. a few hot spinners i would love to barfine if i had the financial means. going from ws to / from worldwide agogo there seemed to be the best coconut bar selection around 8:30 pm, not so much at 10:30 pm.
12 midnight i'm at lucifer's when the drug raid happens (locals get drug tested, foreigners are searched as their leaving the disco). bummed i didn't have a chance to find a fl there, i go to insomnia which has 50% off all drinks from 11 pm. 1 am (for insomnia upstairs, not their ibar downstairs which i mistakenly thought it applied to; ibar's happy hour is 8 pm. 10 pm). insomnia's dead and one of the rare times it's a club sausage fest (in pattaya clubs generally the girls outnumber the guys, that + the girls being mostly p4p + it's free entrance / cheapish drinks is the reason pattaya is my favorite place worldwide to go clubbing).
friend 4 (see photo).25 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. total b560 ($19) = st b500 ($17) + tip b60 ($2). overall c = service a + face c + body d. has 1 kid, subpar body due to wrinkles from old pregnancy and baby lbs not entirely gone. previous 3 nights i picked up b1, 000 fls from insomnia / ibar around 4. 6 am, but didn't want to try again this night. 3 am i ask a ws fl age 25 single mom how much and she says st b1, 000, lt b2, 000. i walk down coconut bar and soon find an ok fl who wants st b700, lt b1, 300. i keep walking down beach road and across from central festival mall i find another age 25 single mom who says ok to st b500, lt b1, 000. we head to my hotel for the st she prefers. cute face but her pregnancy wasn't kind to her breasts / stomach what with all the wrinkles. at least her bbbj+teabagging was awesome and i told her "i no power for boom-boom" since i was only interested in a bj. unfortunately she says no to cim (i should have negotiated that back at beach road) so it ends up being a cof.
day 5: fri / 14 oct, friend 5.
friend 5, 30 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. total b540 ($18) = st b500 ($17) + tip b40 ($1. 50). overall b = service a + face b + body c. cim. has 2 kids, she has a cute face, subpar spinner body due to wrinkles from her 2 pregnancies. walking down cb i first found this teenie (ie under the age of 18) hottie, sitting with her friend, who agrees to st b500 and takes cim. disappointingly she has no i'd but claims to be age 19. i'm tempted to chance it, but i come to my senses and pass since she looked to be around age 16. walking further north on cb i find friend 5 with her friend. friend 5 asks if i can give her friend taxi money so she can go home, i say sure and hand her b20 ($.70) and she's happy. once at my hotel friend 5 turns out to be really horny and wants fs but i tell her "i no power for boom-boom" and try to console her with finger-banging. bj, teabagging, cim and she leaves. she said no to anal (i don't think she's done it before) but said if i paid her st b1, 000 instead of b500 then she'll try it. b500 ($17) might be the typical anal retail surcharge from cb fl, which if i could spare the money is totally worth paying for especially if she's an anal virgin. with friend 5 since i didn't take special k mini-me just wasn't up enough for anal so i didn't even try negotiating the anal charge down to b200 ($7) or b300 ($10).
epilogue: so sat morning 7 am (which in amex's los time i consider to be the tail-end of friday) while having a noodle breakfast i met this age 32 single mom (just got done clubbing; her friend had went home with a john) and she ends up sleeping in my bed. nothing happened because she wasn't my type (too thick) and doing friend 5 earlier eliminated the need to do a round with the first thing i came across. we slept nude at her insistence since it's more comfortable + she liked me. i even got a hard-on at one point and she was a cool gfe-type but i didn't want to pay for st b500 with an obviously too thick girl who's an older (32!) mom to boot. had she offered me a freebie, obviously i wouldn't have declined.
day 6: sat / 15 oct, whine, jailbait, no friend.
short version: no friend today, so sad.
long version: i think i'm the only monger in pattaya who wanted to but couldn't score an escort on a sat night. about 6 am i leave insomnia with 3 thai chicks but the ages turn out to be 31, 25 and 16. of course the teenie is the hot one, my freakin' luck, but i had already offered to buy them breakfast (for us 4 it came out to total b 160 ($5. 30) for 4 beef noodle soups) and of course they were enthused to go with me for free breakfast. at breakfast was when i found out the hot one was a teenie. the 3 chicks slept with me (everyone with their clothes on, so sad) in my hotel room bed but no action with any of 'them (age 31 and 25 weren't my type).
epilogue: i realize how bad my rut was. friend 1. 3 were from insomnia / ibar, friend 3. 5 were moms (i don't mind milfs but when it's p4p i prefer non-moms) , and friend 4. 5 were from cb (which are typically the lower end fls who are willing to accept st b500, lt b1, 000 and maybe even less) , on two nights in a row (1 woman on fri. 3 ladies on sat) i had women sleeping in my bed and still i didn't get a pop off. i need to break out of this rut, maybe even start barfining from soi 6, beer bars or gogos or other business. i should also start sub-letting my hotel room bed space or require at least a hj as payment.
day 7: sun / 16 oct, holy trifecta, friend 6.
so my escort streak (5 escorts in 5 days) was broken and mini-me was all backed up. 3 pm i walk to dream teen pattaya which specializes in body+ball massage. i pay b 400 ($13) for 1 hr service with annie (anne?). she's a hot age 20 but a mom. in our private room there's a shower (at some massage parlors or cathouses you have to go down the hallway to use the shower / toilet) & i shower then lay on the bed for the massage (i'm naked, she doesn't get naked unless i buy extra services). around the 30 min mark she gets to the ball massage but she's less capable though much more attractive than the ball masseuse age 25 i got back in apr 2010. mini-me is barely up because: her ball massage unskillfulness, my inadequate rest / sleep, my fading youthful mojo, the kamagra residual from when i last took it wed / 12 oct is completely out of my system and / or whatever other reasons. annie says i can get a hj for b500 ($17) or other extra services (i didn't ask for pricing on bj or fs; when i asked she said she hasn't and won't try anal). i have no faith in her hj skills and start doing it myself. she argues i can't have a hand party (company policy?) , i tell her i'll pay her if she'll let me finish and ask her how much but she doesn't respond when i say "b100, b200. b500" (which is ridiculous to pay b500 to do my own hand party when she charges that for a hj). after 1+ minute of doing myself i pop (yes, i'm a minute man so during the holy trifecta i allocate 20 seconds to an escort's mouth. 20 sec to her vagina and 20 sec to her anus). i shower, we go to the reception era and i tip her b100 ($3. 40) which she seems content with. i leave dream teen massage and think maybe i should have walked the few blocks to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for a total b700 ($24) for a bj (b700 covers escort's fee, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s commission and use of their private room; [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s specialty is bjs though extra services are available).
friend 6 (see photo) , jane, age 23, 5'.90 lbs. total b 1, 200 ($41) = st b 1, 200. overall a = service a + face b + body a. anal, cim, swallows. 10:15 pm i go out intent on barfining a beer bargirl but when i checked out the 3 major beer bar sections of walking street (simon (right) , simon (left) and siren square which is in front of the pattaya beer garden) i didn't really find a non-mom i wanted. 12:30 am i walk br to see what's available (but pass on a couple opportunities) and hope i'll barfine a bargirl from the soi 2 vicinity. 1:05 am i'm where br intersects soi 6 so i figured maybe i'll find a fl just getting off work. as the gods would have it, the first chick i approach has a good face (but bad complexion) and a great body (skinny enough. 5' tall but with decent a, borderline b cups; i really should learn the exact sizing of each bra size, you would think that it's covered in a women's studies 113 college class but it's not). she's standing with her friend / co-worker and i approach both women. i start negotiating with my target:
me: "what your name?" (it's easier for esl escorts to understand my pigeon english)
her: "my name jane."
me: "how old you?"
j: "23 year old. where you from?"
me: "america."
j: "you look like japanese."
me: "mother from [asian country], father from [asian country]. you want go with me?"
j: "st or lt? now i want go home sleep." her residence is in one of soi 6's buildings down the street from her workplace, goodfellas beer bar.
me: "you sleep with me at my hotel."
j: 'how much you pay? '
me: 'st b500, lt b1, 000. '
j: 'lt b1, 500. '
me: 'you smoke? '
j: 'yes. '
me: 'i finish in your mouth? '
j: 'okay. '
me: 'you fuck ass? '
j: 'yes. '
me: hope she's not lying and i'm really interested now. 'lt b1, 200. '
j: she agrees but says she has no i'd. i tell her no problem and since she looks over 18 and works at a soi 6 beer bar, her lacking an i'd isn't an issue. though finding out that she doesn't fuck ass would be disheartening.
about 1:30 am we get to my hotel room, she gets out of the day's work uniform, showers and we do round 1 consisting of just bjs and anal intercourse. she says she actually prefers anal to vaginal, which was music to my ears. after great sex, we change to casual clothes and head out to eat and go to ibar to hang out and dance (see photo). we're out from 2:45 am to 4 am when she says she needs to be at soi 6 work tomorrow at 1 pm so can't stay out long. so at 4 am it's round 2 of just a bj, she swallows and says she swallow my cum / does it for me because she thinks i'm so 'hansum, ' that when we were eating the gay, local dude was constantly checking me out and while walking down ws other women kept saying (in thai) that i'm a handsome guy which made her feel insecure. of course i don't believe her since escorts tell every john that they're handsome, but maybe i am in that top-third of johns that are considered decent looking. we sleep and at 10 am my alarm goes off so that we can get in round 3 before she departs at 11 am to get ready for work (put on that day's uniform, make-up and stuff). i don't remember if we did anal, but we did finally do vaginal and it was ok but pales in comparison to her backdoor.
epilogue: the next day i went to goodfellas and bought her a ld, and gave her friend / co-worker (when i first met jane the friend that was with her and encouraged her to go with me) a tip b20 ($.70). i can't remember if during my future soi 6 visits if i bought jane another ld. for escort costs i paid b1, 320 = fled b1, 200 ($40) + at least 1 ld b120 ($4). during pillow talk jane had told me her typical lt bf price total was b 2, 000 ($67) = bf 500 ($17) + escort b1, 500 ($50) or more. so when i fled her for lt b1, 200 it wasn't a huge saving. still, it worked out and i thought about hiring her again (either fled or bf) since the holy trifecta was so good + the gfe.
day 8: mon / 17 oct, friend 7.
i had written drafts of day 1 – 7 summaries while i was in patts suffering from insomnia and waiting for my pals from the us to arrive. by today my jetlag was mostly gone, a pal would be in town in a couple of days and from hereon i just took simple notes on the escorts i hooked up with.
friend 7 (see photo) , age 19, 5'3'.90 lbs. st b500 ($17) , don't remember if i gave her tip / taxi money. overall b = service a + face b + body b. hardly had any notes on her and i don't remember much other than she did a bj, i don't think we had intercourse, she actually has a nice body (the picture / clothes is really deceiving) but i didn't care for her haircut. i had picked her up off cb in the evening, the b500 didn't require any negotiations, she was low-maintenance and i was surprised she was only 19 and with no kid. most of the cb ladies i spoke to were in their mid-to-late 20s &/or with a kid (s).
day 9: tue / 18 oct, friend 2's circle, friend 8.
friend 8 (see photo) , age 20, 5'3'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34) , don't remember if i gave her tip / taxi money. overall b = service a + face b + body b. has a kid. she has a bad facial complexion and pregnancy stretch marks, but her spinner physique mostly made up for it. she was with friend 2 at insomnia when i met her about 4 am. while negotiating, friend 8 asked me how much i paid friend 2 and i said 'lt b1, 000' so she accepted the same terms. at my hotel room while doing it i attempted anal and she resisted. i said 'your friend [jit aka friend 2] did it last week' and surprisingly friend 8 agreed to do it, albeit somewhat reluctantly. i did the old routine 1) use lots of ky. 2) offer to let her bit on my fingers / hand though i think she declined 3) anal only after the vaginal. i think it may have been her first time doing anal. we sleep, wake up and do a bj and / or intercourse, i pay her and she takes off.
epilogue: i see her a couple more times (usually with friend 2) at insomnia. one time i buy her a slushee shot b30 ($1) and another time i offered to buy her a beer but she declined. she had an insomnia membership card (only b500 ($17) which entitles the bearer to a 20% discount on drinks and earn reward points. i don't think she was angry at me, it seemed more like by that time (towards the end of my trip) between the fl money she was making and her insomnia card discount, she didn't need me to pay for her drink.
day 10: wed / 19 oct, first soi 6, friend 9 (+ friend 10)
friend 9 (see photo) , rose, age 19, 5'3'.90 lbs. soi 6 st total b1, 120 ($37) = bf incl / st room upstairs b300 ($10) + escort b700 ($23) + ld b120 ($4). overall b = service b + face b + body a. in the afternoon i was at soi 6 when i was amazed to see rose: young with a great body. we negotiated and she said she had no kids, does cim and anal. i was so eager to hit her trifecta that i agreed to st and offered her a ld (to take upstairs with us; i didn't bother with a drink for myself in part to save some money). i wasn't surprised but was sad when it turned out she lied about doing anal and at the end when she wouldn't take cim. what i was really happy about was how amazing her body was, with medium-size a cup breasts which looked really nice on her slim frame. and she was really impressive at vaginal intercourse plus bj skills which weren't too shabby either.
friend 10, age 19, 5'3'.95 lbs. st b700 ($23) = escort b600 ($20) + tip b100 ($3). overall b = service b + face a + body b. around 1 am i was walking down cb when i came across this cutie. she says she's 19, no kids and wants b700. i think about it and while we're sitting next to each other she looks at me and says 'b600, you give 50, i give 50' which i agree to. at my hotel we do it, her bj skills were ok and she didn't do it for very long but she was really into intercourse and admits she liked boom-boom. i find out that she's attending a university in the isan region and she's just making some extra money for school, which i can sympathize with. i give her the agreed upon b600 and tip her b100. too bad she wouldn't let me take her photo, she totally had the hot coed look. she had offered to stay with me lt b1, 200 ($40) but since she had to leave by 6 am since she had a puppy to care for (which makes no sense to me when you're a broke college student, but tit). since i wanted her to leave after 9 am, the lt deal fell through.
day 11: thu / 20 oct, runner 2, friend 11.
friend 11, age 24, 5'4'.95 lbs. st b700 ($23).3-holer. has a kid. overall b = service a + face b + body b. i meet her at insomnia around 5 am. she tells me she works as a masseuse and she agrees to lt b1, 000. once back at my place i get her to do anal, not sure if that was her first time. after i pop, she says she has to go and would like the b1, 000. i tell her b500 and she replies 'please, darling. for my son. ' with the soft spot in my heart for children and the fact that mini-me tapped her anus, i say 'b600' and she says 'please, darling' and i then say 'b700' and she goes 'thank you, darling. ' i pay her and we part ways. she looks really photogenic but her face's complexion up-close isn't that great and she has pregnancy stretch marks.
day 12: fri / 21 oct, stylist, friend 12 (+ friend 13)
friend 12, age 19, 5'5'.105 lbs. st b500 ($17).3 holer. overall b = service a + face c + body c. i met her on cb and no negotiations required for st b500 ($17). in my room i get her to do anal (i think it was her first time, too). i vaguely remember her taking cim. turns out she works at a hair salon but she was freelancing on cb that night to earn some extra spending money for when her friend came to visit in a few days.
friend 13, mook, age 22, 5'4'.100 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). had a kid. overall b? = service a? + face b + body b. for some reason friend 13 is mostly drawing a blank for me. as best as i can remember, around 3:30 am i was on ws and approached / propositioned her and she said yes. we did 1 round, slept and i think another round before she left. don't even remember if she did bjs, if she was good in bed or if she accepted / declined anal. the next night i went to simon (right) complex to fantasy beer bar, bought her a ld b120 ($3). we were talking and she said she liked me except for one thing: i only paid her b1, 000 for lt. typically on a bf she charged b2, 000+ for lt, but she said that since i'm 'hansum' that she knew that i could get fl chicks to go with me for lt b1, 000. her english was pretty good so she was cool to talk with. something about her beautiful face, that classical thai look but she also had braces which just made her seem more appealing, i found her really attractive. her body was a little thick for my taste but that was ok (i consider jessica biel, beyoncé, shakira and the like to be too thick). i went back to fantasy beer bar a few more times, wanting to buy her another ld or tip her b100 ($3) , but never saw her again.
day 13: sat / 22 oct, stylist, friend 14.
friend 14, age 21, 5'2'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34) , and i think i gave her b20 or b100 for tip / taxi. 3-holer, cim. overall a = service a + face a + body b. i recall meeting her 4 am on ws, propositioning her and then going to my room. she said she was a masseuse and i was the first guy to tap her anus. we did round 1, slept, did round 2 then she left. i had asked her for info on her massage parlor with the intent on going there to get a 1 hr thai massage b200 ($6) + tip b100 ($3). with the info she gave me in the afternoon when i hopped on a motorbike taxi the taxi driver drove me everywhere and asked several other taxi drivers, but we never could find her massage parlor (that was a total waste of a b60 ($2) taxi ride). of course 3 hrs after the taxi goose chase she finally returned my phone call, but by then i had given up and told her 'sorry, i find new lady' which means 'i probably won't be seeing you again. '
day 14: sun / 23 oct, sisters, friend 15 & 16.
friend 15 aka eighteen (see photo, on the left) , age 18, 5'3'.95 lbs. friend 16 aka nineteen (photo, on the right) , age 19, 5'3'.95 lbs. st b1, 400 ($46) for both of them = both for b1, 300 ($43) + b100 ($3) tip. cbj. overall b = service b + face b + body b. that evening i'm window-shopping on beach road with low expectations when i spot and become interested in eighteen. she doesn't speak much english so nineteen does most of the talking: st b700 ($23) for eighteen, or i can get both for st b1, 400 ($46). i wanted st b500 ($17) or both st b1, 000 ($34). it turns out they're actual sisters (same biological father / mother, not just close friends that call themselves sisters) , they don't look very similar but i'll take their word for it. in pi in oct 2010 i had been with half-sisters (they had the same father) , but here was a chance to do 2 full sisters. i'm reluctant since nineteen says eighteen will give a cbj (condom bj) and boom-boom me, but nineteen will only boom-boom me. nineteen says for both st b1, 300, i said both smoke me (even if with condoms) and both boom-boom me, and it's a deal. once at my hotel room they both strip naked (no 'i'm shy' bs) and have cute bodies but stomachs aren't toned; they should dance as gogos to firm up those abs. i try one last time for a bbbj but nineteen says it's dangerous, chance of getting hiv, i've slept with many ladies so i may have caught something. i can't argue with her reasoning so put on a rubber, nineteen blows me then boom-boom while eighteen waits her turn. nineteen gets off me, i put on another rubber, eighteen blows me then boom while nineteen's hanging out. i finish, oddly nineteen asks me to go down on her, i tell her no and we're done. since they're supposedly both college students i pay them b1, 300 + tip b100, and they leave. so this threesome was pretty much the same as my pi threesome with the half-sisters, no teamwork, no tag-teaming me, no alternating mouths blowing me, sigh. nonetheless for b1, 400 ($46) i got my money's worth and helped out two fellow college students, who seemed happy with their paycheck (though eighteen really wanted cunnilingus). if i wanted a superb threesome and coughed up the dough, i would just go to devil's den.
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day 15: mon / 24 oct, birthday party.
so my other pals arrived to patts and that night we did an early celebration of my birthday. i loathe holidays (except for chinese new year's for family reasons) and i avoid anything special for my birthday or even acknowledging it, but several of my friends happened to be in patts while i was there, and a night out was so cheap, what the hell. first from approx 8 – 9 pm we started at a beer bar in simon (right). second around 9 – 10 pm we went to baccara gogo to ogle hot, naked gogos. third about 10 – 11 pm we went to airport gogo where my friends paid b1, 000+ ($34+) to the business so i could (against my will) hop in the bathtub / shower with the 2 naked dancers (i kept my shorts / boxers on though the 2 ladies kept trying to pull them off). fourth 11 pm – 12 am we did happy gogo to cap the festivities. there was 8 guys in our group but the total damage for the alcohol for all 4 places was < b8, 000 (<$263) , about < b2, 000 ($66) at each business to cover our booze and to tip the waitresses / staff and buy a mamasan a ld here and there.
fun night and since it was only day 15 but i was already up to friend 16 i didn't feel the need to get a chick that night.
day 16: tue / 25 oct, friend 17.
all my notes indicate are: friend 17. cim. st b500 ($17) + tip b100 ($3). overall / service / face / body. i assume i picked her up from cb, probably because she takes cim. wish i remembered to take a photo of her.
day 17: wed / 26 oct, runner 3, friend 18.
friend 18, age 23, 5'4'.90 lbs. st b700 ($23). overall b = service c + face b + body a. about 2 am i approached friend 18, who was with her 2 friends, told her st b500, lt b1, 000, she talked to her friends then agreed to my proposal for lt b1, 000. during sex i got a finger up to the first knuckle up her anus, but she said it was too painful so anal intercourse was out of the question. after i finished she got dressed and ready to leave, so i wanted to pay her b500. she said that the deal was for st b1, 000, which was complete bs (she was trying to scam me as if i was fresh off the boat) and i considered just giving her b500 and telling her to go tell a cop i short-changed her (a cop wouldn't care since it's a he said / she said pricing discrepancy). then again i did stick a finger up her ass so she could tell a copy my finger molested her bunghole. so i said 'b600, ' then 'b700' which she acquiesced to. we parted ways peacefully.
day 18: thu / 27 oct, friend 19
friend 19, pong, age 24, 5'4'.105 lbs. lt b1, 220 ($40) = escort b1, 000 ($34) + tip b200 ($6) + taxi b20 ($.70).3-holer, cim. has a kid. overall b = service a + face c + body c. the pregnancy wasn't too kind to her booms. i met friend 19 on cb and she agreed to lt b1, 000 ($34). she said i was the first guy to boom-boom her ass. we did 3 rounds and she was such a sweet gfe that i tipped her b200 + b20 for a songtaew / taxi.
day 19: fri / 28 oct, friend 20 (+ friend 21)
friend 20 (see left photo) , age 24, 5'4'.95 lbs. st b520 ($18) = escort b500 ($17) + taxi b20 ($.70). cim. has a kid. overall b = service b + face b + body c. slim figure but had pregnancy stretch marks. about 9 pm met her on cb and she had agreed to anal but at my hotel room she reneged. that was kinda irritating since i had popped a ½ special k in anticipation of entering the backdoor. her bj skills were excellent and we finished with cim. we talked a little and she said sometimes (i'm guessing really old guys) fled her and didn't even have intercourse or a bj, but just wanted to talk to her. i replied that i won't even ever resort to that.
friend 21 (see right two photos) , age 22, 5'2'.90 lbs. lt b1, 220 ($40) = escort b1, 000 ($33) + tip b200 ($6) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service b + face a + body a. 4:30 am her and i left insomnia. before entering my hotel i told her st b500, lt b1, 000 but she insisted on lt b1, 500 which i considered agreeing to. in my room i reminded her lt b1, 000 and she said lt b1, 500 so we didn't really agree on pricing before we started making out. as she laid on my bed i slipped her panties off and starting fingering her. she didn't seem to care to take the them time to shower so we just started having intercourse. she was really good in bed but only did a bit of bj, no anal and no cim. we did at least a 2nd round before her departure. i gave her b1, 200 and told her that the b20 'for taxi' and she accepted the salary. good times with her hot little spinner body and intercourse appetite.
day 20: sat / 29 oct, day of rest.
since i was hanging out with my pals and i was up to friend 21, my family jewels got some rest.
day 21: sun / 30 oct, friend 2's circle again, friend 22.
friend 22 (see photo) , age 23, 5'5'.105 lbs. lt b1, 020 ($34) = escort b1, 000 ($33) + taxi b20 ($.70). anal. overall b = service a + face c + body c. has a kid i think. so i saw friend 2 and friend 22 at insomnia at about 4 am and it seemed that they were friends, or at the very least knew each other. friend 22 agreed to lt b1, 000 so once back at my place during sex she agrees to anal. she says it's her first time doing it, who knows. the next morning after at least a 2nd round i give her the money and she leaves.
epilogue: i think being on good terms with friend 2 greatly helped hooking up with her 2 friends (friend 8 and friend 22) who also fl at insomnia. there was a 3rd friend of hers who i wanted to tap and i got her from insomnia to my hotel lobby, but once there she got cold feet and didn't want to sleep with / do me or even step into my hotel room. i wasn't sure if it was because i would have been her first john (making a her a true amateur fl) , or that she heard that i tapped friends 2 and 8 in the ass (at that point i hadn't met friend 22 yet) , or what. really disappointing because the chick had a really cute face that i really wanted to screw. oh well.
day 22: mon / 31 oct, best bj, friend 23.
friend 23, age 25, 5'4'.95 lbs. st b580 ($19) = escort b500 ($17) + tip b80 ($2. 60). cim. has a kid. overall b = service a + face b + body c. for an older chick, cute face, but her body wasn't great what with the pregnancy stretch marks; at least she was pretty slim. i meet her on cb and once at my hotel room she gives the best bj of the entire trip. finish with cim and i pay her and tip b80. i asked about lt but she wanted b1, 500 so i declined, but i kept her in mind for my last night in patts during which i get a repeat escort (which i usually don't do) so i know there won't be any drama.
day 23: tue / 1 nov, second soi 6, bangkok gogo, friend 24 (+ friend 25)
friend 24, donut, age 19, 5'2'.90 lbs. soi 6 st b1, 080 ($36) = bf incl / st room upstairs b300 ($10) + escort b700 ($23) + tip b80 ($2. 70). cim. overall a = service a + face b + body a. the day before while walking down soi 6 she intercepted me. we talked and she claimed to be from bangkok (the flooding dampening its p4p scene so some escorts were working patts) and that she knows no one in patts pays bangkok escort prices, especially on soi 6. she also claims that she has a japanese boyfriend / sponsor who gives her b35, 000 a month ($1, 148 / mo). i negotiated her down to escort fee b500, but since i wanted anal (and she says i'the be her first for that) and also cim we settle on b700 and meeting tue / 1 nov about 5 pm. so i show up, after i pay the bartender the bf b300 we go to the upstairs room and she says how about b1, 000 total to compensate for breaking her cherry anal, but then changes her mind again that she shouldn't do it since when her japanese boyfriend comes to los next week and if he wants anal, he'll know her cherry's popped. good grief, though i brought ky like she asked me to the anal wasn't that important to me when cim's on the table (or in her mouth. zing). she's really good at intercourse, has a great petite figure with decently sized tits given her tiny frame, gives an excellent bj and takes cim like a champ. i pay her fee of b700 + tip b80. we talk a little and i ask how come she still hooks when she has a b30k / mo sponsor (i was testing her and she corrected me saying that it was b35k / mo). she said 'i enjoy my work' which seemed evident to me during our round, and that that's not enough money when she wants a house, a car and more things. i asked about bkk gogo prices (she claimed to normally work at a gogo in bkk's nana entertainment plaza) and she said bf b600 ($20) + st b2, 500 ($82) or lt before. 000 ($132) , which sounded about right for bkk gogo retail prices. assuming she does actually normally work at a bkk gogo, i saved a bundle getting her at soi 6.
epilogue: some factoids. since the bkk flooding was affecting more of its districts, by nov more escorts (among others) were making their way to patts. for halloween the night before some of the gogos decorated (especially angelwitch gogo) and some women dressed up (at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s i was telling my pal to get blown by the pregnant zombie escort) , but mostly it was business as usual.
regarding anal when i brought it up to friend 24, a what's up, playgirl? gogo, an airport gogo, a babydolls gogo all 4 of them copped a feel of mini-me to make sure 'you not too big, ' decided that i wasn't too big (so sad) , and agreed to fuck ass (friend 24, what's up & airport chicks also said i would be the first). i didn't take any 4 up on the offer because friend 24 was wishy-washy plus wanted a b300 ($10) anal surcharge, and the other 3 were just expensive coming from gogos with the bf b600 ($20) plus st 2, 000 ($67) and lt b3, 000 ($100) , which would be hard to negotiate down when they were reluctant to boom-boom ass to begin with. plus there was the possibility that they would reneged on the fuck ass part once we were back in my room with mini-me trying to make his (not so grand) entrance. on a somewhat related note, if i was a 'chocolate man' (ie black guy) they (and the escorts i did analize) would have never agreed to fuck ass. some escorts won't go with a chocolate man or any guy 'too big' for st / lt, period. so there are escorts who turned down guys who were too big (or even just perceived to be too big) , but i don't know of an instance where an escort rejected a guy because he wasn't big enough (ie too small).
friend 25, age 21, 5'4'.105 lbs. lt b1, 020 ($35) = b1, 000 ($34) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service a + face b + body c. around 3:30 am friend 25 approached me at insomnia, starting dancing / grinding against me, and she agreed to lt b1, 000. at my place we did round 1 (pop 1) , she went to sleep and in a few hours i was horny again. i don't think she did bjs, and i wasn't in the mood for intercourse or even waking her up, so i just did a hand party. i finished (pop 2) on her body, in her semi-conscious state she wiped the cum off her with the bed sheet and went back to sleep. few hours later i was horny again (probably the special k effects) , did another hand party (pop 3) on to her backside, she again wiped the cum off with the bed sheet. about 12 noon i was horny again but she was still asleep, so i put on a condom, eased into her vagina and started tapping her. she slowly woke up, started to help me with the intercourse (finally, round 2) , and i finished (pop 4). during round 2 i realized how she had big, child-bearing hips which wasn't my thing, oh well, i was kinda buzzin' when i went home with her. at any rate, after round 2 / pop 4 (thanks kamagra) , i paid and she left. she did say that she had just quit working at a soi 6 dance club, the one across from passions dance club beer bar (basically a gogo set-up).
day 24: wed / 2 nov, no boobs day, friend 26 (+ friend 27)
friend 26 (see photo left) , age 26, 5'3'.85 lbs. st b520 ($18) = b500 + taxi b20 ($.70). cim. has a kid. overall b = service b + face b + body c. 9 pm i picked her up from cb, no negotiating down the price required, at my hotel once she's naked she's got the smallest boob of all friends 1 – 31, complete mosquito bites. still, her face was decently cute for a chick in her mid-20s though she did have some pregnancy stretch marks. the attractiveness was secondary to cim which she did no problem. paid her with a taxi tip and we parted ways.
friend 27 (see photo right) , age 18, 5'2'.85 lbs. lt 1, 020 ($35) = b1, 000 ($34) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service b + face b + body b. around 1 am on cb i came across friend 27 with 2 of her friends. her 2 friends did the translating / most of the negotiating and encouraged her to go with me. i tipped each of the friends b20 ($.70) for their assistance, went with friend 27 back to my place. i wasn't sure she was 18 but she had an i'd card, and considering she was about 18 and never had a kid even though she was working beach road, i didn't want to pass the chance up. total 3 rounds, and since she didn't want cim a couple times it was cof.
day 25: thu / 3 nov, florist, friend 28.
friend 28, age 18, 5'2'.95 lbs. st b620 ($21) = escort b500 ($17) + tip b100 ($3) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service b + face c + body b. i found her on cb around 9 pm and was glad that she was 18 with no kids, though she was a little beyoncé meaty. i don't remember if she did bjs (i'll assume that she didn't) but i did take ½ special k pill for boom-boom. during sex she says she's never tried anal but lets me put my finger in her anus, says it's too painful. strangely, she was willing to do anal intercourse, but then mini-me was not up to the challenge even though i had taken kamagra. what the hell, an 18 year old virgin anus was being offered and mini-me turned it down. i finished, wanted to get her for lt but for whatever reason she didn't do lts, and said that if i see her again we could go for another st. her regular job was at a floral shop and she said she only fl when she ran out of money to pay for her bills / food, otherwise she doesn't fl. sadly, over the next few days i never saw her or her virgin bunghole again, otherwise i would have fled her, taken a full kamagra pill and de-virginized her rectum. also, she wouldn't let me take her photo. so sad, but on to the last few chicks.
day 26: fri / 4 nov, docked pay, friend 29 (+ friend 30)
friend 29, age 29, 5'3'.95 lbs. st 620 ($21) = escort b600 ($20) + taxi b20 ($.70). has a kid. overall c = service c + face b + body c. about 9 pm i met her on br, she wanted st b1, 000 ($34) , i countered st b500 ($17). she said she did cim, and offered st b700 ($23) , which i agreed to since i didn't feel like negotiating further, i just wanted cim. as it turns out her being 29 and having a kid had a noticeable negative impact on her body once she was naked in my room, but i was more interested in her mouth. her bj skills were good but while teabagging it felt as if she almost dislocated / detached one of my testicles, and when i indicated i was in pain (saying 'goddamn' or something) she didn't even apologize. that kind of killed my desire for her to continue with the bj so it was time for cim. instead of cim, it became a cof since she wouldn't open her mouth for the cim. i was annoyed and though about just paying her b500, but said screw it, gave her b600+ taxi b20. she complained that i was supposed to pay b700, fortunately i got her outside my room (ie away from my netbook / fragile stuff) and as i slammed the door on her i told her 'you no cum in mouth. ' a few minutes later she was gone from my hallway. i definitely overpaid by b120 ($4) but it was better than dealing with that headache during my last patts weekend.
friend 30 (see photo) , age 23, 5'3'.105 lbs. lt b1, 120 ($38) = b1, 000 ($34) + tip b100 ($3) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service + face c + body b. about 4:30 am while at insomnia friend 29 and i started dancing and talking. i mistakenly thought she was the x-zone gogo cute, sex showgirl / dart girl (terrible aim, out of 5 shots she missed twice but 3 shots were direct hits popping the 3 balloons; i blame it on her youthful inexperience since most sex showgirls are older and mostly unattractive). she agrees to lt b1, 000, at my place for round 1 there's a bj and intercourse. later we do round 2, i think it was just intercourse. after more sleep she gives me a bj for round 3. as she's leaving she says that she worked pretty hard for the money with me since usually she gets st b1, 000, and before meeting me, earlier that night she was with an australian john who only wanted her for st (and he paid b1, 000). so she says that for b1, 000 with the australian she only had to do 1 round, but with me she did 3 rounds (lots of work). of all the friends, she had the biggest boobs and they weren't really sloppy either, so that compensated for her thickness.
day 27: sat / 5 nov, mission accomplished, friend 31.
friend 31, ta, age 19, 5'2'.90 lbs. lt b1, 220 ($40) = b1, 100 ($36) + tip b100 ($3) + b20 ($.70). overall a = service a + face b + body a. about 1 am on cb i met ta, who i had seen on several previous nights and had meant to fled her. she agrees to lt b1, 000 but at my hotel i find out she wants cbj, not bbbj. i convince her to do bbbj for an extra b100 ($3). she has an incredible spinner body with (relatively) decently sized breasts, and is really into boom-boom. over the course of the night we do 3 rounds. i was really happy with the service / body, even though cim wasn't on the menu. as it turns out, she's also ½ chinese, ½ thai.
so my goal was 30 friends in 30 days which i hit ahead of schedule, and even finished at 31 friends. rest of this trip i would take it easy and not worry my quantity of escorts. on future trips i won't be so focused on averaging 1 escort per day.
day 28: sun / 6 nov, repeat, friend 19 (again)
for my last night on a monger trip i get a repeat so i know what sex to expect from her, and so that i know she's low maintenance. on a few occasions while i jogging on br (about 3 miles round-trip) i had seen friend 19 again, and sometimes we chatted. one time while jogging by she stopped me and gave me a fresh, cold bottled water to drink (it's only b10 ($.33) , but it was a sweet gesture) to rehydrate with. another time i gave her and her friend (chubby chick who liked to fuck ass, but she wasn't my type) b100 ($3) for them to get some food. so we were on gfe / bfe terms it seemed.
i happened to see her on sun / 6 nov at 9 pm so i asked her how much for lt until mon / 7 nov 6 pm (at which time i had to catch the shuttle to the airport). she said 'up to you' and i said b1, 500, which she agreed to. so she was with me approx. 21 hrs, and in that time for round 1 & 2 it was bjs / cims, for round 3 i just cummed on her body, for round 4 & 5 it was bjs / cims. i wasn't interested in intercourse, and she said she said bjs was perfectly fine as long as i was happy. she only ate once in that time, and she didn't even finish ½ of the b40 ($1. 30) pork fried rice since she's a light eater. in the end i gave her b1, 500 as agreed + tip b100 ($3) + taxi b20. i also gave her some stuff i was going to leave behind for my hotel housekeeper to keep or throw away. it was my thai sim card with credit of b108 ($3. 50) and my old: nike free shoes, pair of flip-flops. 2 dress shirts, pair of shorts, some t-shirts, pair of socks, and such (she said she wanted them to give to her dad).
at 6 pm on monday (day 29) i catch the bell travel service airport shuttle and die a little on the inside as i head to the airport to depart los. my flight was at 12:30 am tue / 8 nov (day 30).
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I brought a girl home who I have seen in the disco plenty of times over at least the last couple of years. I never knew her name or anything though. Come to find out she is a showgirl in Alcatraz agogo. I said why aren't you at work then? She said she barfined herself because she has money. 1,000 baht. Then of course she only wanted 1,000 baht from me for all night. Huh? Kind of reminds me of the joke about the guys with the truck and the melons.
[QUOTE=Pogostick;1170565]It's like the old story of 2 guys that buy a truck load of melons for a dollar each. And then sell them for a dollar each. At the end of the day they had sold every melon but realized they had lost money. They thought about it for a while and came up with a solution. They just need a bigger truck.[/QUOTE]But how does it feel to pay 1,000 for a girl that other guys pay 1,000 barfine plus 2,000 or 3,000 long time for? Well, for me, normal. She was telling me about the shitty work rules. She said they have to pay 5 baht for every minute they are late. (She asked why she does not get paid more for being early.) She said they can not smoke and can not be drunk. They have to get guys to buy them 60 drinks/month. How do they stay sober with guys buying them drinks? She said they get 50 baht/drink that is bought for them. But they can only drink Sang Som with coke, water, juice, and something else I can not remember. If they get something else that is premium they do not get the 50 baht. They have to get at least 5 barfines/month. She said that agogo is better than the disco for work financially because they get tips and all the money from the drinks, then the big barfine and the 2,000 or 3,000 that the guy has to pay them. She said in the disco she will only get 1,000 or 1,500 max, and every blue moon some guy will give 2,000.
She is 20 now but came to Pats to work when she was 15. She worked at a bar on Soi 7. I asked how she was able to do that. She said they don't check ID (so be careful at the bars as well gentlemen) or anything. And if the police came to raid? There was a beauty salon in back of the bar so she could just go inside of the salon. She said that girls go with guys for free all the time if they like them (something I already knew however many mongers shun freebies). She said that once she stayed with a guy for 10 days and he only gave her 1,500 baht. She said his reasoning was that he fed her everyday and bought her shoes at the mall. She took his passport. Then there was another guy who was staying in a hotel for 5,000 baht / day who wouldn't pay her the 1,000 baht he owed. She destroyed the hotel room door.
A few days ago I was strolling down Soi 12. I was looking for an internet cafe but happened to pass a few massage parlors. A little lady yelled out to me "Hey! I-wantah-mah-sahz yoooo!". I looked over and noticed that she sort of resembled that porn star Jade Marcela (both her face & general body type) , so I couldn't help myself and had to see what she might be up to. She took me into this small massage place with beds that were only seperated by curtains so I knew right then that FS wouldn't be on the menu. Oh well. I got showered up and laid on the bed. She was quite flirty and made it very obvious that she was willing to take things further at a later date. Apparently she will visit you at your hotel if you click with her. Her massage skills where definitely above par, and she ended the deed with an HE (in this case her dainty but strong little hands double pumping to completion). She invited me to come back or perhaps contact her for an outcall. Something to consider. The name of the place was "Lai Thai Massage", I think.
Still touring the Go-Gos a bit. Stopped off in Airport Go-Go last night and had a good time. Liked the gals in flight attendant uniforms, it will give me something to think about during my long flight on Cathay Pacific back to the US. They also have a wash tub and the dames were being very naughty. Mamasan was cool and I had a good time chatting her up. Of course some gals wanted me to take them out but I had other plans that night. Maybe later.
I had planned to book a couple of gals from the Devil's Den for some fun on Sunday but was informed that they are no longer open on Sundays as of this month. What a shame. No worries, since I had already done it once before at DD and then I also BF'd two chicks from Lollipop Go-Go for a menage a trois. However, I think I'll stick with the one to one for the rest of the trip. We'll see.
So much sin; so little time.
- DSK
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick;1219462]She took me into this small massage place with beds that were only seperated by curtains so I knew right then that FS wouldn't be on the menu.[/QUOTE]That shouldn't stop the show. The only times I have done FS in a massage parlor there has been that type of setup as well.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1219478]That shouldn't stop the show. The only times I have done FS in a massage parlor there has been that type of setup as well.[/QUOTE]I second that, in Pattaya majority of the places just have a curtain but you be surprise what can be done with just so little separation.
LBM
Has anyone barfined any of the girls standing outside the gogos promoting the place? What's the deal? Are they the same price as the regular dancers? And how do yo best go about it? Ask her inside the bar for a drink or barfine her straight away?
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1219291]Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.[/QUOTE]Just Vow buddy. Tons of patience, eye for details. This must be linked to Wikipedia.)
Dummies for 1st timers in LOS.
AK
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1219813]Has anyone barfined any of the girls standing outside the gogos promoting the place? What's the deal? Are they the same price as the regular dancers? And how do yo best go about it? Ask her inside the bar for a drink or barfine her straight away?[/QUOTE]Depends on the bar, but usually they are the same gals that you see inside, just not dancing. Some bars have the girls that are not in rotation at that time troll for customers outside. I have found it best just to smile, put your arm around her and take her inside for a drink, or if they have some tables outside, ask her to sit with you and conduct your interview there.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1219813]Has anyone barfined any of the girls standing outside the gogos promoting the place? What's the deal? Are they the same price as the regular dancers? And how do yo best go about it? Ask her inside the bar for a drink or barfine her straight away?[/QUOTE]There are different tiers that increase in price. All barfinable.
Tier 1 = Waitress.
Tier 2 = Hostess.
Tier 3 = Dancer / Showgirl
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1219824]There are different tiers that increase in price. All barfinable.
Tier 1 = Waitress.
Tier 2 = Hostess.
Tier 3 = Dancer / Showgirl[/QUOTE]What can be the price difference between these? And is there a price difference just between barfine or also for ST and LT fee?
What is the best way to find a nice apartment in Pattaya? Does anyone know a real estate agent that I can contact?
Dude, did you choose your name from your frequent hotel stayer card, LOL?
Anyway, a well written report, so thank you. A few of your observations I disagree with but that is a bit inevitable. I think you should go ahead and post a selection of your pics for us all to enjoy.
Keep up the good work.
I tried uploading the PDF file but the website said "LOS Oct 2011 Trip Report for ISG. Pdf. Your file of 823. 5 KB bytes exceeds the forum's limit of 390. 6 KB for this filetype." I tried uploading 4 x pics and the website said "The file (s) uploaded were too large to process." So I tried uploading 1 x pic and the website said "Friend 6, Oct 2011, Pic 1. JPG. Upload of file failed." Epic fail on my part and I've given up on trying to upload anything.
I'm just a luddite who stole my handle from an old frequent hotel stayer card. If you want the PDF+Word files with the photos embedded, PM me your e-mail address. Sorry. I have forwarded the files to several ISG members who PM'd me, so I'm good on my word.
On a related note: I'll be in Patts again 1 thru 29 May 2012 so if you want to meet up for a drink / beer, let me know which date (s) you're free to meet up.
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun; 1219989]Dude, did you choose your name from your frequent hotel stayer card, LOL?
Anyway, a well written report, so thank you. A few of your observations I disagree with but that is a bit inevitable. I think you should go ahead and post a selection of your pics for us all to enjoy.
Keep up the good work.[/QUOTE]
Young girl named Pla I met her in WS. I spent 1. 5 bh over night, all inclusive. Nice but only if you like.
Passive girl.
Lakon.
Z
We'll be on a cruise a year from now. My plan is to taxi from Laem Chabang to Bangkok, get a room on the river, spend the night and then head back to the port. But what about alternatives. Been to Pattaya. Does Chonburi and environs offer anything? I'm mostly interested just in watching Thai life and spend time on a beach, preferably with clean water. May do a massage or two.
[QUOTE=Vittu;1220501]We'll be on a cruise a year from now. My plan is to taxi from Laem Chabang to Bangkok, get a room on the river, spend the night and then head back to the port. But what about alternatives. Been to Pattaya. Does Chonburi and environs offer anything? I'm mostly interested just in watching Thai life and spend time on a beach, preferably with clean water. May do a massage or two.[/QUOTE]Vittu,
You could try Bang Saen,
A nice quiet 'Thai style' beach resort and quite near Laem Chambang.
I recently spent a few days there with a playmate. Rather relaxing, and GREAT sea food.
In my opinion a rather nice place to spend a day or two IF you have company but NOT one to go alone!
The best 2 hotels are probably Sez and Tides but there are others.
Hotman
Thanks for an excellent recommendation. Who knows what we will do? Might even stay overnight in Pattaya to see how the place has morphed over more than two decades since I last last there.
Dear Members
I will be going soon to Pattaya.
And have a question.
Does anybody know in Soi 6, a pregnant lady or a Lady who is lactating milk working there.
I will be there next month.
Thanks,
Gray
May I seek advice for a Dec Holiday visit around 18 to 26 of Dec? Wondering if Pats light up differently during Christmas holidays (good or bad). Any advice please as I never been in Patts during holidays.
I was just there in Aug and couple of months before that. So it will be 3 time around this year. I was told, December attracts larger crowd and may make the scene livelier.
NICELY DONE!
She reminds me of the lovely French-Vietnamese PS Sharron Lee. Super cute!
I love WS. What a great place to pickup fresh hotties without that rough working girl edge. I am glad to hear its still going strong.
[QUOTE=Zandar; 1220093]Young girl named Pla I met her in WS. I spent 1. 5 bh over night, all inclusive. Nice but only if you like.
Passive girl.
Lakon.
Z[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nomadic Mong; 1220575]May I seek advice for a Dec Holiday visit around 18 to 26 of Dec? Wondering if Pats light up differently during Christmas holidays (good or bad). Any advice please as I never been in Patts during holidays.
I was just there in Aug and couple of months before that. So it will be 3 time around this year. I was told, December attracts larger crowd and may make the scene livelier.[/QUOTE]That is around high season and there will be more tourists, but also more girls. Most of the girls could care less about Christmas, which makes the place a good choice. I was there the same time frame last December and had a blast as usual.
One thing that was different was that the town tried to cater to the tourists with Christmas lights and decorations on Beach Road, etc. Send me a PM if you want to meet up.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1220675]One thing that was different was that the town tried to cater to the tourists with Christmas lights and decorations on Beach Road, etc. Send me a PM if you want to meet up.[/QUOTE]Outside in front of Central Festival is one the biggest Christmas trees that I have seen in my life. It is like 5 stories high. Where the hell do they store that thing and how do they assemble it.
[QUOTE=Love Sosua;1219916]What is the best way to find a nice apartment in Pattaya? Does anyone know a real estate agent that I can contact?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.soidb.com/pattaya/apartment/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Gray Malkin; 1220572]Dear Members
I will be going soon to Pattaya.
And have a question.
Does anybody know in Soi 6, a pregnant lady or a Lady who is lactating milk working there.
I will be there next month.
Thanks,
Gray[/QUOTE]Your taste is up to you.
You will probably more lucky on Beach Road with a FL for that.
[QUOTE=Michi; 1221019]Your taste is up to you.
You will probably more lucky on Beach Road with a FL for that.[/QUOTE]Or ask in bars generally, BGs do get pregnant now and again, they would see it as a bonus LOL.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1219478]That shouldn't stop the show. The only times I have done FS in a massage parlor there has been that type of setup as well.[/QUOTE]
Everyone has their own tastes, I reckon. I'd personally prefer not to do FS with other blokes just a thin curtain away. So for FS at an MP I visit places such as the Sabai Dee Triad near the Big C. I also paid a visit to Honey Soapie Massage on Soi 11. Decent place, though most of the chicks there were too chubby for my tastes. However, I found one little cutie to have fun with.
Overall a very enjoyable trip. May have to make a repeat visit next year.
- DSK
After reading some recent reports from obvious newbies here I think it is time for a reminder:
1. Do not pay girls fee up front (You will probably get poor service or scammed if you do)
2. Beer bar BG's are 500 ST / 1000 LT
[QUOTE=Gray Malkin; 1220572]Dear Members
I will be going soon to Pattaya.
And have a question.
Does anybody know in Soi 6, a pregnant lady or a Lady who is lactating milk working there.
I will be there next month.
Thanks,
Gray[/QUOTE]Lactating girls can be found all over beach road. Most of those girls have young children and are lactating. I would say maybe 20% of them. However most of them are shy to tell you that they are while you are talking to them on the street. I would start off the conversation by asking them do they have kids and how old. Women love to talk about their kids. Its a good chance if their child is under 18 months they are lactating.
[QUOTE=Monopoly; 1222044]After reading some recent reports from obvious newbies here I think it is time for a reminder:
1. Do not pay girls fee up front (You will probably get poor service or scammed if you do) 2. Beer bar BG's are 500 ST / 1000 LT[/QUOTE]
1) Good advice to pay at the end, but not all of the ladies are out to take advantage. Right now, the beginning of high season, there are a lot of new girls who don't know the "game" very well as they are just starting out.
2) That's your base. Everyone else, pay what you want. Every baht you give will be appreciated, especially if you are respectful and treat the woman that way.
Sure, it's a business and there's a lot of sharp cookies out there in Pattaya, but I've met more than my fair share that are sweet and have kind hearts, too.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1220732]Outside in front of Central Festival is one the biggest Christmas trees that I have seen in my life. It is like 5 stories high. Where the hell do they store that thing and how do they assemble it.[/QUOTE]Spent a pleasant hour, one day at the end of October, watching workmen erecting that big bastard. It was assembled in bloody great segments like an enormous 3D jigsaw puzzle.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1222175]Spent a pleasant hour, one day at the end of October, watching workmen erecting that big bastard. It was assembled in bloody great segments like an enormous 3D jigsaw puzzle.[/QUOTE]CS, I think our American politicians, who are beside themselves battling over whether to call 'them Christmas trees or "holiday" trees, ought to adopt your most excellent use of words.
Couldn't resist!
I only recently found out that so called,"legit" massage parlors are offering FS. I really thought only the soapies did this.
Actually it males sense because the poor girl is making crap money otherwise.
But do restaurants let you barfine the waitresses too? I mean they seem legit. It seems to me that most of them.
Will not and a restaurant is the one of the places a woman that wants to earn a living standing up can go.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1222782]I only recently found out that so called,"legit" massage parlors are offering FS. I really thought only the soapies did this.
Actually it males sense because the poor girl is making crap money otherwise.
But do restaurants let you barfine the waitresses too? I mean they seem legit. It seems to me that most of them.
Will not and a restaurant is the one of the places a woman that wants to earn a living standing up can go.[/QUOTE]N. G,
Just my personal experience and opinion on this subject. There are many legit massage parlors throughout Pattaya that aren't doing any extras excluding FS, and you need to be careful in your approach. My own rule of thumb is the location of the parlor? For example: If the place is located on Soi Buakhao or off on another Soi most likely it will offer extras, or a parlor on Soi Post Office, a massage parlor located where there are plenty of BeerBars. Smoke glass windows and girls sitting outside calling you handsome man? If you ask for a oil massage and after your shower you return and lay down on the mat and she returns and doesn't cover your fat ass with a towel that is a hint for me at least? There are many former bargirls that are tired of the scene that go to work in a parlor.
When it comes to restaurants you need to be careful and don't just start grabbing ass or assuming? Just like home, you smile and try to strike up a conversation and learn more about her. I found that if she speak some English or is working in a restaurant in a tourist area and working for a Farang restaurant you have a greater chance that she might allow you to take her out sometime but you are going to put in some work. I had friends go to Beergarden as a regular in town and fancy a few of the waitress and have met up with them on their off days. The problem with these is that they get attached to you thinking it is much more than a quickie?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1222848]When it comes to restaurants you need to be careful and don't just start grabbing ass or assuming? Just like home, you smile and try to strike up a conversation and learn more about her. I found that if she speak some English or is working in a restaurant in a tourist area and working for a Farang restaurant you have a greater chance that she might allow you to take her out sometime but you are going to put in some work.[/QUOTE]In addition he will have to be there a long ass time because their off days are few and far between.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1222848]N. G,
When it comes to restaurants you need to be careful and don't just start grabbing ass or assuming?
LBM[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr. E and LBM,
That's what I thought. It's not take out like a Go Go or Bar Beer, but a regular chick you would have to pursue.
Are there any Wi-Fi spots in Pattaya? Where I can carry Laptop or tablet and connect for free? How about Cyber cafes? Where are they located? How much they charge?
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1218402]Well we have had the Uzbeks, the Nigerians, and now we have the Colombians. Last night at 3am I went into Mixx Disco and I started talking to the first girl I saw. She was sitting next to the door, a superstar. She didn't look Thai to me but sometimes I can't tell. I finally asked where she was from and she said Colombia. Then I told her "mentirosa," which means liar in Spanish. From there on out we were speaking in Spanish. She said that she was from Pereira. She had come to Thailand to "work." She had done 1 month in Bangkok and now she had already been in Pattaya for 1 month. I told her that I was going to circle the club but I would be right back.
Well by the time I got back some Middle Eastern guy had already scooped her up. I said damn, I told you I would be right back. She pointed another girl out and said it was her friend from Cali, Colombia. I said of course, I can tell by her ass. She appeared to have the classic Medellin ass implants. So I spoke to her quickly then made another circle around the club. I thought to myself that I should go ask them how much guys are giving them in Thailand. But when I got back around there was no sign of them. They went like hotcakes. Maybe I will go back there again tonight just to ask them.[/QUOTE]Where would one find a Nigerian or other black chick in Patts
[QUOTE=Fck Dick; 1223245]Are there any Wi-Fi spots in Pattaya? Where I can carry Laptop or tablet and connect for free? How about Cyber cafes? Where are they located? How much they charge?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Several cafes around town charge less than one Baht per minute or 30 Baht for an hour. You can connect for free at Subway (near Big C on 2d Road or on BR near Soi 5 and Soi 10) as well as McDonald's restaurants and many other places, even in some massage shops, just ask them for the password. Chivarome Health Massage, South Pattaya Road is one such shop. Also try [url]http://www.3bbhotspot.com/home/index.php[/url] as they have hotspots all over town.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1223252]Where would one find a Nigerian or other black chick in Patts[/QUOTE]Saw three of them sitting at the rooftop of the Royal Garden about an hour ago, definitely look like they were in the business. You can probably catch them on WS now.
[quote=mr enternational;1218402]well we have had the uzbeks, the nigerians, and now we have the colombians.[/quote]are you kidding me? that is a long way for a colombian to travel to work, but i'm sure there it is a good market for them.
this means i don't have to travel to st. maarten, panama city, or to medellin to get my colombian fix; yippee!
see you soon my friend.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1223259]Saw three of them sitting at the rooftop of the Royal Garden about an hour ago, definitely look like they were in the business. You can probably catch them on WS now.[/QUOTE]thanks RM, still 13 time zones away but will be there next weekend, been in RG many times@Coffee Club (nice fillet steak) but never on roof, what is up there
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1223252]Where would one find a Nigerian or other black chick in Patts[/QUOTE]Met a couple of African girls on Beach Road, when I was in Pattaya recently. One of the girls, from Botswana, was eminently fukable and I toyed with the idea of 'walking' her as a bit of a change. But she just had far too much attitude which led me to suspect that she might be trouble so I let it pass.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1223419]Met a couple of African girls on Beach Road, when I was in Pattaya recently. One of the girls, from Botswana, was eminently fukable and I toyed with the idea of 'walking' her as a bit of a change. But she just had far too much attitude which led me to suspect that she might be trouble so I let it pass.[/QUOTE]There's a gang of them that hang out at Club Flex! Make a right at McDONALDS on Walking St. New Hip-Hop club (well, new to me ). Club is FIRE! Everybody seems to migrate over there after Lucifer's winds down. I don't think you'll be disappointed!
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1223345]thanks RM, still 13 time zones away but will be there next weekend, been in RG many times@Coffee Club (nice fillet steak) but never on roof, what is up there[/QUOTE]Several food service providers offering different food choices. Some a little overpriced but a nice change of pace to the regular dining experience
appreciation: thank you, positive isg posters. i've learned lots and was inspired to contribute myself.
i'll be in patts 1 thru 29 may 2012. if any isg member wants to meet up for a drink / beer, pm me.
warning: do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.
i wrote this guide (an annex to my 'los oct 2011 trip report') to help newbies or those wanting advice. ymmv, all of this is imho, costs / times / figures are approx, hopefully i'm not talking out of my ass too much & everything's subject to change. this guide is based on my experiences and what i would / will do with a focus on saving money. i'm in my 30s, asian-american, average looking / personality, cheap.
approx exchange rate i'm using is b (aht) 30. 5 = us $1 (or b100 = $3. 40)
maps of patts.
- overview (+jomtien+naklua)
[url]http://bit.ly/rvr1qz[/url]
- gogos / beer bars.
[url]http://www.pattayabarguide.com/[/url]
(map dated sep 2011 & looks current)
- dark side.
[url]http://bit.ly/ugymc1[/url]
i've never explored sukhumvit's beer bars but it's probably cheap.
table of contents.
section 1: supplies / misc.
section 2: timing / amateur fls.
section 3: minimize expenses / crime.
section 4:2008 & 2010 sexcapades / journal.
section 5: bangkok tips.
section 1: supplies / misc.
1) money exchange.
- before leaving the us i inform my atm & credit card issuers that i'll be using my cards in los.
- i obtain most baht from patts' atms for the best exchange rate (my bank reimburses me the b150 ($5) atm fee) or via the exchange windows.
- before leaving the bangkok airport (aka suvarnabhumi) for patts i have b1, 200+ ($40+) to pay for the taxi or shuttle ride. after exiting the luggage pick-up carousel, there's x / see windows, atms & a mini-mart (for a drink / to break large bills).
- on a patts outing i carry a copy of my passport (champagne gogo once asked for my passport to allow admittance) & enough spending money for the day (if i run out i know i've used my budget) ; don't carry atm / credit cards unless i intend to use them. i prefer to have a combinations of bills but lots of b20 for tips / in case vendors don't have change, coins b10 for baht bus and b5 for pay toilets. in my room i keep accessible b1, 000, b500, b100+b100, b20 to make payment to the escort for the exact amount (ie st escort b500+tip taxi b20, or perhaps lt escort b1, 000+tip b200+taxi b20) in case my wallets empty.
2) at the tourist info booth (police kiosk on br near entrance to ws or the avenue mall) grab current patts guidebooks, maps, brochures of tourist activities i may try.
3) i tell the jasmine hotel to empty my room's mini-bar / fridge so i can fill it with stuff from friendship mini-mart (facing the ws entrance sign, walk left / eastbound on south pattaya road, the mini-mart is on your right before 2nd road) or friendship supermarket (continue on south pattaya road for about half mile (1 km) and it'll be on your right-side). the big c / major supermarkets are also good for cheap supplies. supplies i typically pick-up on day 1 or 2: ky jelly, condoms, sleeping pills (alleviate insomnia) , shampoo, mouthwash, q-tips, sunscreen, drinks, snacks.
4) drug stores (don't buy stuff off a guy on the street) : carries real viagra, knock-off viagra and kamagra (generic viagra) , a pack is b500 ($17) but i negotiate & buy multiple packs so i pay b250 ($8) per pack
- special k: 1 pack has 4 tablets. 100 mg / tablet = 8 doses when using a ½ tablet (just bite into it & place the other ½ back into packaging for later use) or 4 doses when using a full tablet for max effect.
instructions for special k (i have no experience with cialis or the gels) :
- take 25 min before a hard-on is needed (eg take it when she's showering & during foreplay it kicks in)
- works best / absorbs fastest if you take it on an empty stomach.
- if young / healthy then a ½ tablet is sufficient; if doing a threesome, elderly &/or have ed issues then take a full tablet (you can always ask the pharmacist for free medical advice on how much to take)
- helps for 7 hrs (if a hard-on last 4+ consecutive hrs immediately seek medical attention)
- must be horny / want to have sex for it to work (generally doesn't work if you have no interest in sex)
- pros: makes hard-ons stiffer, perform longer, shorter refractory period.
- cons: may get a hard-on unexpectedly, frequent usage may build tolerance (just cycle off every 7th day if taking for long periods of time eg a month)
- misc: sometimes after popping / finishing i'll still have a 2nd (softer) hard-on & the best remedy is to do the girl again (no prob if it's lt, but on soi 6 one st escort said no 2nd pop so i just did a hand-party). on very rare occasions i'll have a 3rd (soft) hard-on requiring a 3rd pop, then no more hard-ons.
5) in the us i pay $18 / mo (=$216 / yr) for just dental insurance. i may cancel that & do all dental work (exam / x-rays, cleaning, fillings) in los once a yr.
6) misc.
- my us.
[url]www.netflix.com[/url]
wouldn't work in thailand. in may 2012 i'll check to see if.
[url]www.amazon.com[/url]
prime video streaming works, and if google music & amazon music mp3 cloud-storage streaming works.
- porn websites are blocked in thailand (that's one sex advantage the otherwise prudish us has).
- opening a siam commercial bank account is easy.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/siam_commercial_bank[/url]
or see.
[url]http://www.scb.co.th/en/home/[/url]
just need to present a passport (must present that for any future transactions at a bank) , a phone number (hotel / cellphone) & an address (your hotel's is fine). they did once charge me a b10 ($.70) fee for quarterly (monthly?) sms / text message account update but i told them that as i'm usually not in los, to discontinue that & not charge me the b10 fee. so now i pay 0 fees, get about 2+% annual interest & have a place to store some baht, get b20 bills & see some cute bankers / tellers. when i do move to patts, it'll be even handier. there's an scb on br just before the ws entrance, and there's one at the tukcom (electronics) mall on south patts [email]road@soi[/email] buakhao.
section 2: timing / amateur fls.
- mid-nov to mid-feb high season has the best weather / higher hotel prices / most ladies so more johns jostling for the choicest escorts & more tourist to deal with; harder to negotiate lower prices with the escorts.
- fall & spring are shoulder seasons so ok weather, pricing & selection (summer is the rainy season)
- i now avoid songkran (water festival) which in patts lasts 7 days (in other parts of los it's only a few days). at the apr 2010 songkran i got tired of getting soaked every day, having white paste smeared on my face, & how the festivities dampened the p4p scene. songkran celebrations for one day would be more than enough.
1) approx open / closing times:
- soi 6 cathouses: 1 pm – 1 am (best 4 – 7 pm: plenty of ladies who aren't worn out by earlier johns)
- ws gogos: 8 pm – 3:30 am (best 9 – 12 pm: plenty of dancers with the hottest not yet bf'the)
- beer bars: afternoon – 3:30 am (best 8 – 12 pm with gogos drawing some of their customers)
- soapies / body massage: 1 pm – 2 am (best 7 pm before the horny drunks show up & bf the best at 8+ pm)
- ws is pedestrians only (no vehicle traffic) : 7 pm – 3 am.
- ibar: happy hour 8 – 10 pm, open until 5:30 am at which point people leave or go upstairs to insomnia aka iclub (best midnight – 5:30 am) ; hookah is only b190 ($6)
- insomnia disco (aka iclub, above ibar) : happy hour 11 pm – 1 am, open until about 8 am (best 12:30 am for last chance ½ off drinks, crowded past 6 am)
2) usually my 'day' runs approx 3 pm – 6:30 am.
? : do the lt escort from last night one more time before she leaves.
- 2:45 pm : housekeeper cleans my hotel room / replace towels, i eat lunch & do stuff: buy a b50 ($1. 70) wsj asia-edition newspaper, get a 1 hr b100 ($3. 40) thai massage on soi buakhao or soi 13/1, hang at the malls, go to a koh larn (crystal island) beach via b150 ($5) round-trip ferry from the bali hai pier (just walk south from ws) , visit my tailor, see friends who are in town, back in my room lounge / use wi-fi, etc.
- 6 pm: walk or run the 3 mi (4. 8 km) road-trip br path; get a st cb cutie if i come across one (a st now alleviates the urgency / need to find a st / lt later that night) ; dinner.
- 7 or 7:30 pm: i especially enjoy seeing dancers in their regular street clothes & later mostly / fully naked in their gogos. i might sit at carousel bar (on soi diamond, in front of diamond beach hotel) as it revolves 360 degrees i see the ladies go in to superbaby, supergirl, etc. goldstar bar (junction of soi diamond & ws) , directly across from candy shop disco, is my go to ws bar to lounge & people watch since it's open 24/7, bottled water is only b30 ($1) + tip b20 ($.70) & i don't get hassled to 'play game' or 'buy me ld. '
- 9 pm – 12 am: beer bar hop & hit a few of my preferred gogos: superbaby, supergirl, baccara, happy, beach, peppermint, airport, casnovy, what's up, angelwitch &/or maybe off-ws worldwide (i'm not in to the sleazy stuff / sex shows of windmill, babydolls, x-zone, hot girls, playgirls).
(10 pm – 12 am: take a nap if i need to re-charge or just relax in my room to save some money)
- 12 am – 1 am: while checking out ws / cb escorts i walk from ws to soi 6 & just after 1 am i walk soi 6 to see if there's a fl (who just finished work / off-duty from her soi 6 place of employment) i can hire.
- 1 – 2 am: hang out at soi 7 & 8 beer bars / gogos.
- 2 – 3 am: while checking out cb escorts i walk from soi 8 area back to ws.
- 3 – 4 am: on ws i hit on the off-duty gogos / beer bargirls, fls or regular thais out partying.
- 4 – 5 am: hit ibar / iclub to dance & flirt with the highest concentration of fls at that time.
- by 6:30 am: go home with a lt escort i picked up at insomnia or on ws
migration pricing theory: ws is the biggest patts party zone (for tourists & thai women, escorts or non-p4p). of the escorts who party after work: after 1 am soi 6 employees go to ws (& the soapie girls after 2 am) , after 3:30 am gogos / beer bargirls head to ws especially ibar / insomnia. before midnight fl prefer st in hopes they'll get more sts or a lt later (if they did accept a lt before midnight, they want a premium). after midnight escorts (fl, gogos & bargirls) are more willing to do lt &/or accept a lower price (also applies to st pricing). at 1 am when fls from soi 6 become available & chances of a st john drops, that puts downward pressure on fl st / lt pricing. at 3:30 am the gogos / bargirls flood the fl market & johns are getting scarcer so the ladies' st / lt pricing power drops even more. so 3:30 – 6:30 am is my best chance to score off-duty gogos, bargirls, soi 6ers, ws fl or even an amateur fl when they're done partying they're more open to st b500 ($17) /lt b1, 000 ($34) since they may be tipsy, partied out & it's their last chance that day to get paid to get laid. (also, around the 1st of the month when bills (rent, motorbike rental fees, etc) are due or around holidays when women have to send extra money to their family might encourage women, pros & amateurs, to trick). often times all it takes is my 3 line script:
me: 'my name [. ]. what your name? '
lady: '[. ]. '
me: 'i'm 3x year old. how old you? '
lady: 'i'm xx. '
me: 'you want go with me? '
lady: 'ok. '
once she's agreed to it, start walking to my hotel and then tell her 'lt b1, 000' and usually they say ok. then i ask 'you smoke / blowjob / sucky-sucky' and usually they nod in agreement (most thai escorts will do bjs, whereas in ac (angeles city, philippines) most escorts i came across didn't do bjs). if they want more money i ask them if they'll accept cim &/or 'boom-boom ass / fuck-ass' and usually they say no. at which point i pretend that i'm not willing to pay more than lt b1, 000 because there's no 'cum in your mouth / finish in your mouth' &/or 'boom-boom ass' services provided (which are nice to have but not deal breakers for me). ultimately they'll accept the lt b1, 000 to avoid the cim / fuck ass & to not miss out on a sale at 5:30 am. i sometimes use that same ploy when negotiating for st b500 before midnight.
2) in oct 2011 i did 31 escorts in 30 days, some of them mediocre. in may i'll focus on quality / hotness over quantity, ideally 15 spinners in 29 days. typically the best for quality at low prices are off-duty gogos. of the women i've hired in my 5 patts trips apr 2007, oct 2008, feb 2009, apr 2009 or oct 2011:
bf gogos: 25% were starfish / runners / high maintenance (eg after paying bf i realize they had an attitude)
bf beer bargirls: 20% starfish / runners / high maintenance.
bf soi 6ers: 10% were starfish (i've never bf a soi 6er for lt, or recall getting a high maintenance st girl)
fl (either pro fl ie streetwalkers or off-duty gogos / bargirls) : 15% were starfish / runners / high maintenance.
amateur fl: 5% were starfish (i don't recall getting a true amateur fl that was a runner / high maintenance)
nowadays i prefer fls & soi 6ers because they're better values = lower pricing + higher chances of a gfe / positive experience. i had really bad luck when i bf st from superbaby (i think 2007 & 2008) : both times (2 different dancers) they would only do cbj & they were starfish. unfortunately when bf from superbaby / supergirl, you pay the full amount (bf+escort's fee) to the waitress / mamasan before you take her to a room (i don't know any other los gogos that have this policy) , so i couldn't exactly dock the escort's pay for lousy service. on the plus side they were stunners, among the top 3rd attractiveness (face a+body a but service d) los women i've hired, which is why i didn't interview / screen them properly to ensure we had good chemistry / meshed since mini-me was running the show. i still get the itch to hire an occasional gogo because they tend to be hotter & i can confirm prior to taking them home that they have a great body since they're nude in the gogo. one time i made the mistake of bf a tiger gogo tout (who was fully clothed as she beckoned passerbys to come in) : she was cute but turned out to have mosquito bites boobs, was a starfish, & i had paid the standard gogo bf+escort st fee.
about 8 pm – 3 am the easy way to find ws fls (mostly pros) wanting a john is in front of p. 72 hotel & restaurant, near the ws entrance, & at the soi 14 & ws junction. discos are also good for fls. candy shop is basically open air so it's great to have fun at a disco / do a hookah & hit on the disco fls or women walking by on ws. lucifer is cavernous (there's a smaller, outer area; keep walking towards the back) & packed around midnight. marine can be good around 1:30 am but nowadays i have better luck at insomnia. i'm too lazy to walk to mixx disco.
in the past a lt escort would sometimes wake up, go to the bathroom & before i know it she's dressed / has fresh make-up on & leaving before i can get in 1 more pop. so now if i'm horny but she's asleep i just do a hand-party & finish on her, or start fingering her, slip on a condom, insert mini-me & begin tapping her. oddly, i've had escorts get irritated when i want a morning bj / delight after i foolishly / politely waited for her to wake-up or outright refuse to do 1 more round when she's gotten dressed to leave (before i realize it). yet when i start tapping her when she's still asleep / half-asleep it hasn't bothered a single escort yet. usually they slowly wake up, realize i'm tapping her, & she starts putting some effort in to it (indicating me to switch to different positions or just to make sure i have a condom on).
i stay at jasmine because it's cheap & convenient but it lacks certain things i would like for better sex. lots of mirrors (walls, ceiling) , sofa & easy chair (certain positions require armrests for support which the bed / headboard can't compensate for). at soi 6 some businesses also have a porno playing on the dvd / tv, which is a nice touch when tapping a chick.
guesstimates based on the small sample size of patt escorts (gogos, bargirls, fls) i've been with:
- 60+% of escorts are from the isan region.
- 5% have orgasms (probably much higher when they're with guys other than lazy old me)
- 5+% don't enjoy sex at all ie it's an unpleasant occupation (again it could just be because they're with me)
- 70% of escorts will do bjs; of those that will.
8% requires a cbj.
33% will do cim.
- 75% of cb / br ladies have had a kid.
- 25% of ws / club fls have had a kid.
- 3+% are teenies (if she looks **** & she has no i'd, i don't even risk it)
- 85% of them will lower their st / lt price if i negotiate enough.
- 90+% bends the truth eg saying they've only hooked for 4 weeks, which is true of the past month.
- 90+% claim to have no boyfriend (but they probably do have a thai &/or farang boyfriends)
- 10% that admits / claims to having a farang boyfriend / sponsor, of that group 100+% of them went with me for st / lt (i don't recall an escort ever admitting to me that she had a current thai boyfriend / husband).
3) ode to amateurs.
an amateur fl hooks occasionally but are normally in between jobs, hold a regular position (student, stylist, masseuse, cook, office worker, cashier.) or simply vacationing in patts / out partying. on very rare occasions i'll find a second-timer amateur fl in which i'm only their 2nd (or maybe even 1st) john. i love true amateur fls because compared to women who trick regularly they're: hornier since they don't have sex regularly, less likely to have an std since they've had fewer (or no) johns before, i might be the first 'farang' (foreigner) they've been with, they're not hardened / cut-throat professionals, they're more attractive than ws fls / cb fls & it's easier to get them for st b500 / lt b1, 000 even if it's before 12 am (since they're not accustomed to big paydays for sex). on ws true amateur fls (especially second-timers) are harder to find, may take lots of effort & patience but they're worth it to me.
in previous years i've had some luck at marine / insomnia discos around 2:30 am finding regular ladies (eg amateur fls) who happened to be just out clubbing not planning on getting hired (in oct 2011 i was lucky with college students & a florist on cb). before (?) 12 am while sitting at goldstar bar people watching or strolling ws i've been lucky occasionally, spotting then approaching groups of 2 – 5 women who were just walking, hitting on my target and with some persuasion scoring the target (on 2 different occasions even bringing the target+her entire group of 1 or 3 friends to my hotel room.
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, which i stayed at before finding jasmine, to prove i'm staying on ws, not a serial killer, & it's safe for the amateur to stay with me alone). see journal / photos below for more info.
to identify fls interested in me i make eye contact, smile at them & see if they respond positively. for amateur fls (particularly second-timers) on ws (as opposed to cb where they're borderline pro fls) i look for 2+ women headed somewhere (ie they're not just standing around) ie a night on the town. when i approach them they're usually cautious / suspicious about my intentions, which i soon make clear that i'm a farang looking for a st / lt with her. sometimes i get lucky & she's receptive & her friend (s) supportive.
section 3: minimize expenses / crime.
- avoid or be selective with bf gogos: baccara group (baccara, happy, peppermint, cavern & beach gogos at ws) has a standard bf b600 ($20) , also the case with superbaby / supergirl (at ws on soi diamond). some gogos (eg what's up, angelwitch both at ws on soi 15 and mash on soi lk metro) have varying bf prices of b600 ($20) – b1, 000 ($34) for dancer / showgirls / coyote dancers / hostess / waitresses, or may have one bf price before x am & a lower bf after x am (eg 1 am).
- same applies to beer bars: i've heard some charge bf b500 ($17) but typically it's bf b300 ($10).
- avoid lds, especially the premium / large lds: at baccara group gogos it's b115 ($3. 80) but oddly at vertigo beer bar on soi happy (which leads in to happy agogo) it's b150 ($5) per ld.
- don't ring the bell (= you're buying all the employees / dancers a round of lds). if you must, do it at windmill gogo (or place with a similar policy) where it's a flat b1, 000 ($34) to pay for the round of lds even if there's 15+ of them.
- don't throw a bucket of ping pong balls (which are b20 ($.70) per ball).
- discretely negotiate with the escort for a lower st / lt escort fee, especially if you're off-ws. if she's giving you attitude, she's probably high maintenance / a terrible lay.
- to get a repeat (escort) cheaper: discretely get her phone number (when you see her before or after work, when you're with her for the first st / lt) & sms / text her to coordinate a future st / lt minus the bf & possibly at a reduced st / lt escort fee. i rarely give my phone number out since i don't want to be bugged by ex-hires who i have no interest in repeating with.
- stick with happy hours: usually entrance signs or touts holding placards advertise their happy hours / times eg b59 ($2) draft beers all night at baccara group gogos.
- avoid the gogos with european women: b300 ($10) for your drink, even more for a ld.
- do not go in to any gogo / business that charges an entrance fee. on ws i know of 2 gogos with regular choreographed sex shows (bananas, ping pongs, darts, bottle-opening, razors from the vagina, etc) : hot girls (on the 2nd floor above an italian restaurant) & playgirl (above airport agogo). hot girls tried to charge a b500 / person entrance fee which includes 1 drink, so we went to playgirl (no entrance fee, just pay for your drinks). the sex shows take about 30 min with 20 min or so intermissions so if nothing's going on you can always come back.
- since gogos entrance are free: walk inside, take a look. don't see anything worth staying for, just leave.
- st rooms: approx b300 ($10) per usage (your escort knows st motels nearby). soi 6 establishments include complimentary use of their st room with your bf b300. some gogos (i think worldwide & playgirl (or was it hot girls?) have a st deal total b1, 600 ($74) = bf b600 ($20) includes use of their st room + escort b1, 000 ($34) , which is a bargain for a hot gogo+private room. devil's den includes a private room but their specialty is a threesome so you have to hire 2 escorts. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
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massage fee includes use of a private room, and you pay the masseuse for extra services, retail price: hj b500 ($17) , bj b1, 000 ($34) , fs b1, 500 ($51).
- eat from food carts / sidewalk vendors / hole in the wall eateries. in a nice restaurant pad thai is b120+ ($4+) but from a mom & pop operation it's b40. for consistent food availability at ws (& to meet working girls getting a bite to eat) : on soi 15 especially 6 pm – 3 am has a high concentration of food carts / eateries, on soi bj (diagonally across from marine disco) places to eat 24/7 & on soi diamond about 6 pm – 3 am. on ws food carts are prevalent mostly starting around 5 pm, and lots of them come out around 3 am (when ws is open to vehicle traffic again).
- generally ws is the most expensive (bf ladies, eating out, massages) , br is next & it gets cheaper further east past 2nd road. soi buakhao is really cheap & sukhumvit's road should be even cheaper.
- sometimes i avoid buying a ld before a bf by going up to the lady (when she's beckoning me on soi 6, she's standing in front of a gogo, or i somehow happen to start talking to her without a prerequisite ld) , interviewing her to check for adequate chemistry between us & offering to just bf.
1) hiring an escort is a business transaction with the lady being my employee and there's no good reason for the escort to be high maintenance. only twice in patts (and once in ac) have i demanded (& got) the beer bar bf refunded because the bargirl turned out to be whack. i don't like resorting to that, i prefer a gfe & i generally give a bfe (boyfriend experience) asking her if she needs anything (eg toothbrush for lt) from 7-11, wants a snack / drink from my hotel stash, take her out to eat, and so on. nowadays i dock the escort's pay for atrocious service. i would prefer to avoid that & just be a nice john 24/7.
2) conversely, i try to give good tips to escorts (and thais in general). my policy now is: to a satisfactory escort at least b20 ($.70) for taxi, tip b100 ($3. 40) – b300 ($10) &/or maybe a ld or two on following nights for excellent service. some folks think buying lds / paying bfs are for schmucks but i'm of the camp that has no issues with buying an occasional ld / bf if she seems worth it & i can afford it. to a gogo / beer bar server i usually tip b20 ($.70) & typically before i leave a gogo (or maybe even a beer bar) give a b20 (folded twice in ½ lengthwise, much cheaper than a ld) directly to a dancer / bather (ie shower showgirl) /bargirl, who is usually grateful for my gesture even if there was a guy earlier throwing a bucket of 25 (b500) ping pong balls on to the gogo stage. it's due to my tipping habits (or my sunny demeanor) that employees are pleased to see / serve me again even though i don't bf & i rarely buy a ld. i think tipping well gets me, if not that particular escort, good karma for mongering.
crime.
- at jasmine there's cctv so everyone entering the hotel is filmed, a room safe &/or lobby safe is available for valuables, at night there's a security guard, the reception desk is manned 24/7 & anytime i bring in an escort her i'd card is photocopied by the receptionist (i sign a liability waiver if i want to bring in an escort with no i'd). to be extra safe i could tell the receptionist to hold the escort's i'd card & the receptionist confirms with me via phone call / knock on my door that i'm ok with the escort getting her i'd / leaving (to make sure i haven't been drugged / robbed). to my knowledge no escort (bf or fled) has ever stolen from my room (just maybe stolen my heart, j / k). jasmine has no room phones but i could use my cellphone to call hotel reception / security.
- stay sober enough to be aware of what's going on. one time a 30-something lady tried to pick-pocket my front pocket while i was sitting on a baht bus with my girl. also one time a ladyboy tried to steal my friend's necklace & on a different occasion a cb ladyboy tried to unzip my back pocket to steal my wallet.
- don't fight a local because his buddies will gang up on you. either walk fast / run away or stick with fighting a fellow farang.
- avoid scams by knowing the exact price / terms before proceeding. i know i've been scammed 3 times in patts: 1) kid cleaned my shoes & when finished he pointed to the overpriced 'b200' ($7) price clearly written on the side of his toolbox (which i hadn't noticed until it was too late).2) guy wants to clean my shoes, i say ok to b40, but all he does is brush the dirt off (no soap cleaner applied) , so i only gave him b20 (probably b10 too much) & waived the lazy shoe shiner off though he still pretended he deserved b40, 3) without first asking the price i tell the insect vendor i want a little of everything (small frogs, scorpions, other bugs) from his cart & after he fries everything he indicates that it'll cost me b500 ($17) , i said b100 ($3. 40) & after some back & forth we agree upon b160 ($5. 40).
- do not trust touts, & if the pricing is the same might as well book thru a travel agency or a business with a fixed location (stand / kiosk, window / store). bangkok touts are much worse but be skeptical of patts touts.
section 4:2008 & 2010 sexcapades / journal.
in the past i sporadically took photos & didn't keep notes on any women. as best as i can remember:
1) from apr 2008 (these women aren't in chronological order & i think i did more than 7 women but didn't take photos of the other ones) :
fl in front of p. 72, friend 1.
friend 1 (see photo) , age 24 (?).5' 4".105 lbs. st paid. overall b = service b + face b + body c. she had said she was 20 (?) but after sex admitted she lied about her age because she thought i prefer younger women.
bf from a beer bar in the simon (left) beer bar complex, friend 2.
friend 2 (see photo) , age 19 (?).5'3'.100 lbs. lt paid? = bf? + escort. overall b = service a + face b + body b. barely spoke english, didn't have a kid, had a high sex drive, and we did 3 rounds.
bf from worldwide agogo, friend 3.
friend 3 (see photo) , age 19, 5'4'.90 lbs. lt paid? = bf? + escort. overall b = service a + face b + body a. has a kid. i bf her from worldwide gogo. during sex she was on top grinding hard, it was painful to me (bad fit / angle) so i told her 'get off' because i couldn't take any more of that painful position. she said 'i almost finish, ' too bad but her vagina was rough on me. she was a great gfe, next morning she went out to buy some cold meds for herself & brought me back a drink / snacks.
epilogue: in 2010 & in oct 2011 i see her at her current dancer job, airport gogo, & bought her lds. she's now about age 22.
bf from a beer bar on ws, friend 4.
friend 4 (see photo) , age 21 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. lt paid 1st time total b2, 300 (b78) = bf b300 ($10) + escort b2, 000 ($68). overall b = service b + face c + body a. i bf her from a beer bar on ws. terrible whitening make-up, but turns out to have an awesome spinner body with b-cups. i decided to bf her the next night for total b1, 800 ($60) = bf b300 ($10) + escort 1, 500 ($50) ; i had asked for lt b1, 000 but she said how about b1, 500 & i agreed to it. it was a mistake to bf her again since that 2nd lt she was moody / kind of a pain to deal with.
bf from a beer bar on ws, friend 5.
friend 5 (see photo) , jane, age 21 (?).5'2'.90 lbs. st paid. overall a = service a + face b + body a. had a great spinner, hour-glass figure (b-cups). gave great head & first girl to ever teabag me.
epilogue: now when i tell / indicate to an los escort to teabag me. 80% will do it & 20% won't.
fl from marine disco, friend 6.
friend 6 (see photo) , age 21 (?).5'2'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall? = service? + face b + body b. was really petite but she had pregnancy stretch marks from when she had a kid.
fl from marine disco, friend 7.
friend 7 (see photo) , jane, age 22 (?).5'4'.100 lbs. lt b2, 000 ($68). overall a = service a + face a + body b. around 3 am i meet another jane & her cousin at marine disco. i asked for lt & we agreed upon b2, 000. she took me to insomnia (in oct 2008 it was at its old site near marine disco 2 / marine seafood complex) & around 5 am we went to my hotel for round 1 & sleep. around 10 am had round 2, slept more than 12 pm round 3, slept some more. at 2 pm we wake up for a quick round 4, go to lunch at mbk restaurant (shabu-shabu) at the big c mall (her friend we were supposed to meet doesn't show up, which was good for me since that was one less mouth to feed). after helping me to pick out shirts, we're back in my hotel room about 5 pm for round 5. at 6 pm i'm considering getting her lt again, she said it would cost her standard lt b2, 000 & she has to work at the hair salon the next day at 9 am, i realize i want to bang different chicks so we part ways. she was really attractive / photogenic (hence the multiple photos) , great gfe, & had medium c-cups but they were sloppy. normally a hair stylist; she used to have a scandinavian butterfly boyfriend who took her on a 2-week european vacation.
2) from feb 2010 (only 3 escorts shown / described but i did more) :
soi 6 st, friend 1.
friend 1 (see photo) , bee, age 19 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. st total b1, 000 ($34) = bf b300 ($10) + b700 ($24). overall a = service a + face a + body a. turned out to have beautiful large b-cups. in 2010 & oct 2011 (now age 21?) i see her again at quickie bar on soi 6. still nice figure but needs to cut back on the smoking / take better care of her face.
fl from ws, friend 2.
friend 2 (see photo) , age 19 (?).5'2'.85 lbs. st paid. overall a = service a + face b + body a. turned out to have well-proportioned breasts for such a petite figure. great in bed but reneged on the cim (she had agreed to it during negotiations but when it was show time she said her tongue piercing was new & couldn't take cim now).
second-timer amateur fl from ws, friend 3.
friend 3 (see photo, left) , natalie, age 20 (?).5'4'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000. overall a = service a + face a + body a. on my 2nd to last night in patts about midnight i spot natalie & her friend walking past goldstar bar, so i hop out of my chair to go talk to my target (i usually pay my bar tab as soon as i get the drink since i rarely stay for more than 1 drink). since she doesn't speak english, her friend translates. i go thru my 3-line script and then say 'st b500, lt b1, 000, up to you', the 2 friends discuss it then natalie basically says hell, yeah, she'll take the lt b1, 000. her friend departs, natalie & i go to my hotel for round 1 & she's really horny & wants to fornicate for way too long.
next morning i tell natalie i want her for that night (a solid gfe repeat for my last night) , it'll be another b1, 000, we agree on meeting at 9 pm. her & her friend shows up at 7 pm to drop natalie off with me, i tell them it's way too early (i wanted to hit the gogos one last time) , hand them b200 ($7) to go hang out somewhere & tell her to be back at 9 pm. at 9 pm we do round 1, she sleeps while i pack & do some internet / skype stuff, at 4 am i get a round 2 bj. at 5:30 (?) am my taxi to the airport arrives. me sitting in the backseat with sleeping natalie lying across, laying her head in my lap during the 1 ½ drive (i could have asked for a quick bj but as a second-timer i doubt she'the do it with the cab driver in the front seat). i paid the cab-driver & natalie continued on to bangkok city. she was a bangkok university student & she was returning to the city / school from her patts vacation. it seemed i was 1 of her very 1st, or the 1st, john.
in april 2010 during songkran (see photos, right 2) i hired her for lt b1, 000 per day / night again. she took a bus from bangkok to patts and originally i was planning 5+ days with her (the most i've ever spent with 1 escort). the language barrier didn't bother me but she had lost most of her sex drive, she got jealous when i wanted to go to the gogos, so after the 2nd or 3rd night i paid her the lt fee + b2, 000 or b3, 000 severance (i can't remember which but either was possibly too generous) & told her she should leave (ie go back to bangkok). she cried (presumably because her sugardaddy's gone, not because she was emotionally attached to me) & left.
3) from apr 2010 (only 7 escorts shown / described but i did 19) :
fl from ws, friend 1.
friend 1 (see photo) , age 22 (?).5'4'.95 lbs. i think i had her for st. overall? = service? + face a + body c. i just remember terrible boobs.
amateur fl from ws area, friend 2.
friend 2 (see photo) , age 19 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face a + body a. overlooking the fact she had small a-cups, she had a really sexy body. during sex she kept saying 'fuck me' & she was really in to it. i think she was in-between regular jobs.
fl from ws, friend 8 (i don't have photos of friends 3 – 7)
friend 8 (see photo) , age 19 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. st b500 ($17) and lt b1, 000 ($34). overall b = service b + face b + body a. i met her on ws & on 1 night we did st b500 (negotiated down from b1, 000) & it went well. she has a great body. on another night we agreed upon lt, did round 1, and after we had a few drinks at a beer bar then food around 3 am. about 3:45 am we slept but she woke up about 7 am, gave some bs reason to leave and left without me getting round 2. i should have docked her pay instead of paying her runner (very nice) ass the lt b1, 000. oh well, she was a cutie w / a hot body.
fl from ws, friend 12 (i don't have photos of friends 9 – 11)
friend 8 (see photo) , age 20 (?).5'4'.95 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). around midnight i see her approaching a motortaxi on soi 16 & give her my 3-line script+offer lt b1, 000 which she accepts. i give the taxi driver b20 ($.70) because i just stole his fair. as we're walking to my hotel her shoe heel breaks, so i give her piggy-back ride the rest of the way (her c-cups physique was heavy) to my hotel room. she worked in bangkok p4p place (beer bar?) & was in patts on vacation.
amateur fl from ws, friend 13
friend 13 (see photo) , age 20 (?).5'4'.95 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall? = service? + face b + body c. one night we met but she couldn't do st / lt for some reason so we exchanged phone numbers. the following (?) night she called me wanting to meet up but i had hired someone already so i tell her the next night at midnight to meet me in front of lucifer disco. she's there, we head to my place for lt, she's a cook in some restaurant & that's about all i remember.
fl from ws area, friend 16 (no photos of 14 – 15)
friend 16 (see photo) , age 21 (?).5'4'.95 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face b + body a. really nice breasts. since she was a good gfe the next day i took her to koh larn island with me & when we got back to patts / my hotel room had a round. for going with me to koh larn + the shag i think i gave her b500 ($17). i forgot what her regular job was.
fl from cb, friend 19 (no photos of 17 – 18 or any women after friend 19)
friend 19 (see photo) , age 23 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. st b500 ($17). overall? = service? + face b + body b. has a kid. i hired her off cb i think for a bj. i just remember pregnancy wrinkles being a turn-off.
fl from ws + bf from a beer bar on soi happy, friend partially blind
friend partially blind, age 23 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. fl lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face a + body a. cim. my 2nd to last night in patts i'm walking ws about 3:30 am when i come across her & we agree upon lt b1, 000. she has a great body but, due to a childhood accident blinding / damaging one eye, she has one glass eye (originally i thought she was cross-eyed) and one good eye. she tells me she works at [? ] beer bar on soi happy & she's tried to get my attention when i walk to happy gogo but i ignored her (i also ignore all the other bargirls since my focus was happy). i realize i should pay more attention when walking past beer bargirls. she's hot, gfe, & cool to talk to. i tell her that night (my last night in patts) i'll bf her at x pm when she gets to work & pay her lt b1, 500 ($50). so at 8 (?) pm i'm at her beer bar, buy her a ld, pay the b300 ($10) bf & we head to my hotel. after 2+ rounds and some sleep, i pay her b1, 500 & catch my taxi to the airport (picked me up at 7 am?).
4) from oct 2011, bonus trip report material.
soi 6, friend ex
while walking on soi 6 i vaguely recognize her (see photo). she tells me that we had a st before (a previous year) & she looks the type i would hire. she works at quickie bar (same as another ex-friend of mine: bee). i buy her a ld, she wants a st hire but i decline since i prefer new chicks.
refunded bf from dream bar beer at simon (right) on ws, friend not.
she had a kid & was age 22 (?) but i liked her face & we agreed to lt escort b1, 500 ($50) , negotiated down from retail b2, 000 (or was it more?). i pay the bf b300 ($10) & we head to my hotel room. i remember to ask the hotel lobby receptionist to photograph us prior to us going my hotel room (see photo). in my room she starts trying to re-negotiate a higher price, saying b1, 500 should only be a st. i tell her 'no. leave' since we've been thru negotiations, if she's a high-maintenance mom she's not worth any more trouble & money, & i offer her b100 for her troubles, she says for severance she deserves at least b500. i grab her purse & shoes & exit my room, surprisingly she follows me in to the hallway so i lock / close the door behind us. i walk towards the lobby as she yells 'we talk, come here! ' while standing at my room door. i set her purse, shoes & the b100 severance on the lobby chair for her to fetch, i hand a tip b20 ($.70) to the security guard & tell him & the receptionist that i kicked this chick out of my room.
i go back to dream bar beer (the one on the left side) , tell them i want a bf refund. i think about it, tell them to just give me 3 x san mig light beers which is total b285 & the b15 change is a tip. i chug all 3 as friend not arrives back telling her co-workers what happened. i leave the bartenders an additional tip b100 & leave. on a couple of occasions when i inevitably walked past her beer bar in simon (right) complex she gave me the middle finger & said 'fuck you. ' sometimes love just ain't enough.
kiss agogo, friend deaf
friend deaf, age 21 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. fl lt b1, 000 ($34) in apr 2010. overall a = service a + face b + body a. cim. in apr 2010 about 3:30 am at marine i approach friend deaf (of course i don't remember her name) who's sitting by herself. turns out she's deaf and willing to go with me for fl lt b1, 000. she stays with me until 6 pm the next day & left only because i softly kicked her out by indicating i was going out to eat & to the gogos, it was nice meeting her & giving her the lt b1, 000 (+tips?). during her time at my hotel room she was entirely in the nude (she didn't bother putting any clothes on in between rounds) , we had 3+ rounds (i think once fs & 2+ only bjs) , great gfe, & i learn (via body language, text on our phones & her actions) that she loves boom-boom, big cocks, giving bjs & teabagging. few nights later i buy her a beer at candyshop disco, meet her friend who's also deaf, and fled her deaf friend for lt b1, 000 (cute face but terrible boobs).
in oct 2011 i see friend deaf again & buy her a ld since she's now working at kiss agogo (on soi lk metro, to the right of devil's den & submarine agogo). via text on her phone she indicates her other deaf friend is now married to a farang & left thailand. friend deaf still has a great spinner body but now goes for gogo bf+escort pricing, unless you can get her off-duty.
section 5: bangkok tips.
1) maps.
- bts sky-train & suvarnabhumi airport rail link:
[url]http://bit.ly/vvaolg[/url]
or.
[url]http://bit.ly/utplgz[/url]
- red-light areas: 1. nana [email]plaza@e3[/email] nana bts. 2. soi [email]cowboy@e4[/email] asoke bts.
[url]http://bangkoktonite.com/maps/sukhumvit.shtml[/url]
it's easier to walk between the 2 areas than take a taxi.
3. patpong (red-light & night market) @s2 sala daeng.
[url]http://bit.ly/t7pryt[/url]
2) soapy massage parlors.
[url]http://bit.ly/tzrw79[/url]
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cheers: that's all i can think of to put in this los guide for now. good luck out there.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1223887]I wrote this guide (an annex to my 'LOS Oct 2011 Trip Report') to help newbies or those wanting advice. YMMV, all of this is IMHO, costs / times / figures are approx, hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass too much & everything's subject to change. This guide is based on my experiences and what I would / will do with a focus on saving money. I'm in my 30s, Asian-American, average looking / personality, cheap.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for this information. Making my first visit to Thailand on Dec 16-26. This is exactly what I was looking for. Question do you think its best to use the ATM everyday or come into the country with all the cash I expect to need ( 2000 USD) and do a one time exchange? I know my bank charges for other ATM usage, just don't want to get into the habit of withdrawing money several times a day like I tend to do in Vegas.
[QUOTE=Catch77;1224406]Thanks so much for this information. Making my first visit to Thailand on Dec 16-26. This is exactly what I was looking for. Question do you think its best to use the ATM everyday or come into the country with all the cash I expect to need ( 2000 USD) and do a one time exchange? I know my bank charges for other ATM usage, just don't want to get into the habit of withdrawing money several times a day like I tend to do in Vegas.[/QUOTE]And the Thai bank who owns the ATM also charges you for each withdrawal (150 Baht, if I remember well). So I arrive "in country" with some cash that I change at the airport. Not the best rates, but I exchange only enough to tide me over the time until I find a better rate or can withdraw some larger amounts. Hotels and fancy restaurants are settled with a credit-card, so the cash money of for small things and P4P and hence I usually withdraw cash money once a week only.
[QUOTE=Catch77;1224406]Question do you think its best to use the ATM everyday or come into the country with all the cash I expect to need ( 2000 USD) and do a one time exchange?[/QUOTE]Go to the ATM once every week or ten days and withdraw 20 000 baht (650 USD). Keep these in the safe in your hotel room (make sure your hotel offers this service). Some ATMs have a maximum amount of 10 000 baht. So avoid these brands.
It has been 150 baht for each ATM transaction so I would take out enough for a few days at least,
Also check what exchange rate you are getting, some places are better than others,
BK
[QUOTE=Catch77;1224406]Thanks so much for this information. Making my first visit to Thailand on Dec 16-26. This is exactly what I was looking for. Question do you think its best to use the ATM everyday or come into the country with all the cash I expect to need ( 2000 USD) and do a one time exchange? I know my bank charges for other ATM usage, just don't want to get into the habit of withdrawing money several times a day like I tend to do in Vegas.[/QUOTE]For that short period I would bring the cash (2, 000) all in nice Hundreds. You should be able to get a pretty good rate even at the airport. Right now the rates is around 30. 79, at the ATM you might get 30. 63 with a ATM charge of 150 baht for each transaction and most likely in general you will be charged 1% at home? It should also be noted that most USA bank will only distribute $500. 00 maximum a day (24hour period). Right now based on the rate I could get 16, 000 baht. As noted some ATM here in Thailand will only give you 10, 000 baht and if you are asking for more the machine doesn't give you much of a explanation which can be disturbing if you ever got ripped off by a ATM here?
Bring the cash and have extra in your ATM account in case there is a emergency?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1224730]For that short period I would bring the cash (2, 000) all in nice Hundreds. You should be able to get a pretty good rate even at the airport.[/QUOTE]Bring brand new and pristine $100 bills. The newest you can find. And a couple of $50's would not hurt.
Do not change significant money at the airport, only enough to get to where you are going. Bring some $20's for that. The exchange rates will be better at the money changers at your destination.
SunLover
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1224770]Bring brand new and pristine $100 bills. The newest you can find. And a couple of $50's would not hurt.
Do not change significant money at the airport, only enough to get to where you are going. Bring some $20's for that. The exchange rates will be better at the money changers at your destination.
SunLover[/QUOTE]I believe that you get a better rate for the 100 bills? Do whatever you need to get a better rate but don't be obessed about it. I still remember a guy walking in the hot sun in Bangkok because he thought he could get a better rate on a Thai broom. He walked his ass off and his shirt was nearly soak in the back and he felt he beat the guy because he got the broom for 35 baht instead of 40 baht. While he was walking away from me I was thinking how can I know such a stupid F-ker? And today he still does the same thing and over pays for pussy?
LBM
Pulled a cute young thing from the line-up dancing on stage in between the shows. #29 her name was Tam. Bought her a drink and started chatting. One mama-san warned me that Tam's English was not very good. I didn't care I wasn't looking for a conversation partner. She had a nice body with soft skin. I asked her how old she was and she said 18. Wow, I thought. Less than half my age. I was started to get very excited. Asked her for long time and she agreed. She called a different mama-san over who said barfine was 600 baht and long time was 3000 baht. After a week in Patong Beach where I was getting long time for 2000 baht or less I was a little reluctant but when I looked at that body again the wrong head made the decision and I agreed. Walked with her along beach road back to my hotel. About a 10 minute walk but just spent the time looking at her long legs and talking a little. Made it to the hotel and the front desk staff seemed like they were waiting for me. So I walked up with her and they asked for her I'd. Now, before I paid the barfine I double checked with the mama-san that 1) she was 18 and 2) she had I'd. The mama-san said "Yes, yes, everything fine. She have I'd." I said,"I don't want any problems with my hotel she has to have I'd." "No problem", she said,"she has I'd." So get to the front desk and no I'd is forth coming. An exchange in Thai back and forth between Tam and the desk staff and one of the clerks turns to me and says "She has no I'd. She can't go up to your room."
I looked at Tam and asked,"What happened?" She just looked down at the floor and said "Sorry." So we headed back out to beach road and grabbed a baht bus back to Walking Street. I already had a suite with a bath tub on the balcony. I wasn't going to go pay for some dirty short time room somewhere. I wanted to return her to the club and get my money back. We get back to the club and I tell one of the waitresses that I want to see a mama-san. They find the same one that I paid the barfine to. The same one that assured me Tam had I'd and everything was fine. I said,"She doesn't have I'd." They talked in Thai. Tam looked like she was about to die. I guess I was causing her to lose face, but I just wanted to know what the hell was going on. Mama-san looked straight at me and said "She have I'd but she can't show it to your hotel because she is 16 and they won't let her in." "She's 16?" I looked at Tam,"You're 16?" No response from her. I told the mama-san I wanted my money back. She ran over to the bar and returned with my 600 baht and said something in Thai to Tam while gesturing at the stage. I guess she was probably telling her to go change and get back to work. I looked right at the mama-san after Tam walked away and said "If she had told me she was 16 I wouldn't have bar fined her." The mama-san just turned her head and looked away without saying anything.
They know she's 16. They don't care. They're pushing child prostitution.
I went back to my hotel and thanked the front desk staff for saving my ass.
PS Why does this editor change the short from for identification from two letters I and D to I'd? What is the point of that?
[QUOTE=Bender69;1224870]Pulled a cute young thing from the line-up dancing on stage in between the shows. #29 her name was Tam. Bought her a drink and started chatting. One mama-san warned me that Tam's English was not very good. I didn't care I wasn't looking for a conversation partner. She had a nice body with soft skin. I asked her how old she was and she said 18. Wow, I thought. Less than half my age. I was started to get very excited. Asked her for long time and she agreed. She called a different mama-san over who said barfine was 600 baht and long time was 3000 baht. After a week in Patong Beach where I was getting long time for 2000 baht or less I was a little reluctant[/QUOTE]Angelwitch is by far the most expensive A gogo, the people are only go there for the show.
[QUOTE=Bender69;1224870]Pulled a cute young thing from the line-up dancing on stage in between the shows. #29 her name was Tam. Bought her a drink and started chatting. One mama-san warned me that Tam's English was not very good. I didn't care I wasn't looking for a conversation partner. She had a nice body with soft skin. I asked her how old she was and she said 18. Wow, I thought. Less than half my age.[/QUOTE]Most Thai girls, working or otherwise, will tell you that they are 1 year old when they are born. If a girl tells you she is 18, she invariably is only 17, and in her 18th year. Let the buyer beware!
Fantastic report. Well done
[QUOTE=Bender69; 1224870]Pulled a cute young thing from the line-up dancing on stage in between the shows. #29 her name was Tam. Bought her a drink and started chatting. One mama-san warned me that Tam's English was not very good. I didn't care I wasn't looking for a conversation partner. She had a nice body with soft skin. I asked her how old she was and she said 18.
Mama-san looked straight at me and said "She have I'd but she can't show it to your hotel because she is 16 and they won't let her in." "She's 16?" I looked at Tam,"You're 16?" No response from her. I told the mama-san I wanted my money back. She ran over to the bar and returned with my 600 baht and said something in Thai to Tam while gesturing at the stage. I guess she was probably telling her to go change and get back to work. I looked right at the mama-san after Tam walked away and said "If she had told me she was 16 I wouldn't have bar fined her." The mama-san just turned her head and looked away without saying anything.[/QUOTE]Bwwaaahhh haaaa haaaa. You guys are going to go to jail chasing those barely legal women. Searching out 18 year-olds is saying,"If they would allow me to go younger, I would!"
[quote=bender69; 1224870]the mama-san just turned her head and looked away without saying anything.
they know she's 16. they don't care. they're pushing child prostitution.
i went back to my hotel and thanked the front desk staff for saving my ass.
ps why does this editor change the short from for identification from two letters i and d to i'd? what is the point of that?[/quote]
similar thing happened to me once in bangkok. had pulled this cutie from one of the go-gos at nana plaza, we had gone for a few drinks and it had gotten quite late and we went back to my hotel. when she is signing into the hotel the reception tells me that she can't come in. i ask "why, she has shown you her id?" and then they say "sir, she can't come in because she is 16". was to late to march back to the go-go since it was after closing time, so waved my finger in front of her face and told her "no good, bad, bad, bad. you understand how much trouble i could be in?" she started crying and ran out of the hotel. made a point of thanking the receptionist for keeping me out of what could potentially have been a lot of trouble for me. was really irritated actually since i avoid girls that say they are exactly 18, since that is often a sign of them being ****, but this one had said she was 21.
managed to find an open beer bar where i pulled a girl from that was far from my first choice of bed companion, but only had two weeks in thailand on that trip and was not planning on going to bed alone any night.
was determined to go back the next day and recover my bar fine, but the next night i realised i had no recollection whatsoever of which go-go she worked in, and wasn't going to waste a whole night looking for her, so wrote it of to experience.
ps to work around the editor, write your report, and copy it. then post it. then click edit post, and paste your report into the form. the automatic editor doesn't edit edited posts.
I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Horatio; 1225379]I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Why don't you read the forum and find out? You have had 6 years to read the posts on this Forum. I see 80-90% of your previous posts are questions only.
[QUOTE=Horatio; 1225379]I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you don't mind a bit of negotiating with the girls and do not go for the high end of the market (a gogo girls and such) it should still be possible, but you will really have to search for it. Beach road freelancers and beergarden girls are your best bet then. A more realistic price would be 750 baht ST and 1500 baht LT.
A hotel for under $10 a night might actually be more difficult to find, unless you go in the low season.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1225396]Why don't you read the forum and find out? You have had 6 years to read the posts on this Forum.[/QUOTE]. Hilarious. But very right!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1225368]Bwwaaahhh haaaa haaaa. You guys are going to go to jail chasing those barely legal women. Searching out 18 year-olds is saying,"If they would allow me to go younger, I would!"[/QUOTE]I wasn't searching out an 18 year old. I pulled what I found to be the best looking girl that was dancing on stage at the time. If she had told the truth when I asked her age it would have ended right there. As I wrote earlier, I thanked the hotel staff for saving my ass.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1225439]A hotel for under $10 a night might actually be more difficult to find, unless you go in the low season.[/QUOTE]More like impossible in any season but if someone finds one post it for the budget travelers.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1225439]If you don't mind a bit of negotiating with the girls and do not go for the high end of the market (a gogo girls and such) it should still be possible, but you will really have to search for it. Beach road freelancers and beergarden girls are your best bet then. A more realistic price would be 750 baht ST and 1500 baht LT.
A hotel for under $10 a night might actually be more difficult to find, unless you go in the low season.[/QUOTE]We are talking about Pattaya not Bangkok. No Problem to get a Beer-Bar-Girl or Freelancer for 500 Bath shorttime or 1. 000 Bath longtime. Also a Guesthouse in High-Season for 500 Bath is possible (try Soi Bukhao Area). Hotels for this price no way.
Wenzman
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1225492]More like impossible in any season but if someone finds one post it for the budget travelers.[/QUOTE]There's a cheap guesthouse on Soi Chaiyapoom, aross from the Le Cap Breton restaurant.
You went back and read all my old posts? Wow! You will note that I gave an account of my visit to Thailand, and gave a review of both hotels I stayed in. I am not sure what more I could have said. I asked more questions then gave facts because I had more questions then facts. Like I said though, I gave what facts I had.
I didn't go back and read pages of this forum for my answers because it is so much quicker to just ask. Please excuse the laziness.
Thanks for the help.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1225396]Why don't you read the forum and find out? You have had 6 years to read the posts on this Forum. I see 80-90% of your previous posts are questions only.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Horatio; 1225565]I asked more questions then gave facts because I had more questions then facts. Like I said though, I gave what facts I had.
I didn't go back and read pages of this forum for my answers because it is so much quicker to just ask.[/QUOTE]Not a bad strategy, why bother reading the content of pages, just ask. Seems a great selfish approach.
With compliments from the idiots posting reports, information, feedbacks
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1225624]Not a bad strategy, why bother reading the content of pages, just ask. Seems a great selfish approach.[/QUOTE]A perfect example of the entitlement pov. It is funny when it gets down to this level, not so funny when some idiots think they are entitled to a piece of my earned income just because I have it and they don't. Forget the fact that I worked and saved damn hard to get where I am and they didn't.
[QUOTE=Horatio; 1225379]I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.
Thanks[/QUOTE]To Horatio.
The overall cost is higher now than 6 year ago everything is up and the Baht is stronger now compare to the USD, I don't go for the bottom of the barrel but my last trip 3 month ago cost about 130 USD a day for everything 6 year ago is about 100 USD a day easy.
Fast Eddie 48
WTF? I have given answers here. Anyone who doesn't want to answer me, doesn't have too. Notice that there were two contradictory answers to the question I asked about prices over the six years. It takes hours upon hours to decipher pages of posts compared to what is said in response to a specific question. And whoever said I was 80 to 90 percent questions was wrong. About 20 percent of my posts are saying I enjoyed someone elses post. Another whatever percent was banter, some percentage was me giving facts I learned while in Pattaya, maybe half my posts were questions.
I spent two months in Thailand. Whatever information I can give, I gladly will, but it can be and has been covered by much more experienced mongers then me. I could do mindless banter, but who really wants that? I read about 5 pages of Pattaya posts, and none of them covered what I was wanting to know.
The best way (imo) to respond to people who continuously spam with questions is to ignore the questions.
Thanks again for the answers.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1225624]Not a bad strategy, why bother reading the content of pages, just ask. Seems a great selfish approach.
With compliments from the idiots posting reports, information, feedbacks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Horatio; 1225379]I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I just left Pats. If you are talking Beach Road girls, most are going for 500ST and 1k LT. There are many girls out there. More girls than customers it seems.
You can get $10 hotels in Jomtien. This is the cheapest I know of in Pattaya that is decent:
http://sawasdee-hotels.com/pattaya/sawasdee_mansion/index.html
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1225647]I just left Pats. If you are talking Beach Road girls, most are going for 500ST and 1k LT. There are many girls out there. More girls than customers it seems. [/QUOTE]I am coming over in late Jan and appreciate the update. Last time I was there (Aug. 2010) there was a reluctance from Beach Road girls to do LT.
Thanks to all for the responses regarding the ATM exchanges. This is a great community of like minded individual. I will be submitting my first report soon after returning.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1225647]I just left Pats. If you are talking Beach Road girls, most are going for 500ST and 1k LT. There are many girls out there. More girls than customers it seems.
You can get $10 hotels in Jomtien. This is the cheapest I know of in Pattaya that is decent:
[url]http://sawasdee-hotels.com/pattaya/sawasdee_mansion/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]Problem is not the costs have changed but the exchange rate. UK at least.
When I planned to go to Thailand long time ago now 70-75 baht for the pound.
When I made it to Thailand about 65 baht for the pound.
Now 45-50 baht for the pound.
WTF. So basically though ST may still be 500 and LT 1000 and cheap hotel 700. The conversion rate means prices are much much higher.
ANyone any idea on likelihood of exchange rate improving anytime soon?
[QUOTE=Horatio;1225639]WTF? There were two contradictory answers to the question I asked about prices over the six years. It takes hours upon hours to decipher pages of posts compared to what is said in response to a specific question.[/QUOTE]I think there is room for argument here.
Some questions can be answered quickly with a single data point that is not subject to debate. For example: Where is the Heaven Above Go Go? Are there baht buses on Soi Buakaow? There's probably no harm in asking that type of question here, although I've found that Google is usually faster.
Most questions, however, have no hard-and-fast answer. The classic example is any question having to do with pricing. There are thousands of girls in Pattaya, and it's simply impossible to generalize about pricing. Mr. Horatio originally asked "Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight?" The wise guy answer is yes. By which I mean that of the thousands of girls in town at least one will go for those prices. But that doesn't really tell him what he wants to know. The same can be said for his query: "Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night?" In the first place, it's circular to ask about finding a "cheap" room for $10 per night. Of course a $10 room will be "cheap." In the second place, again the wise guy answer is yes. In a city with thousands upon thousands of hole-in-the-wall rooms I'm sure there are places to stay for 300 baht. But again, that's not what he wants to know.
What he REALLY wants to know is: "What kind of girls are willing to go for 500 short time and 1000 long time?" And: "If I'm only willing pay 300 baht per night, will I be forced to stay in a scarifying dive?" Well, those questions cannot easily be answered. Yes, girls and lodging are available at those price points. Whether they would be acceptable to Mr. Horatio is impossible to say. The only way he can decide if a Pattaya trip is realistic on his (VERY limited) budget is to put in the time to read the posts going back several months. Only in that way can he get a sense for the quality of the girls and the lodging available at that price level. Then he can take an informed decision about whether he'd have fun on such a small budget.
Relying on others to answer those questions puts him at their mercy. What if I answered his original queries by saying: "No problem! Lots of girls will go for that price and you'll be able to find a "motel" for $10 per night." Come February Mr. Horatio finds himself staying in a 100 square foot room east of Third Road with just a wheezing table fan for company and banging toothless grannies he finds in Dark Side bars. He makes his way to the nearest internet cafe and takes me to task. Quite rightly, I can say I was just answering his questions.
That's why, in almost all situations, there is simply no substitute for putting in the time to read the old posts. I realize that goes against today's point-and-click lifestyle, where it's been said people don't read so much as they graze. But sometimes you cannot escape the eternal verities.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1225710]Problem is not the costs have changed but the exchange rate. UK at least.
When I planned to go to Thailand long time ago now 70-75 baht for the pound.
When I made it to Thailand about 65 baht for the pound.
Now 45-50 baht for the pound.
WTF. So basically though ST may still be 500 and LT 1000 and cheap hotel 700. The conversion rate means prices are much much higher.
ANyone any idea on likelihood of exchange rate improving anytime soon?[/QUOTE]
You should be glad its not dollars? Consider yourself still lucky? But I know it's all relative?
LBM
Hi,
The Devils Den website seems to have been offline for a while. Do anyone know if they are still in operation?
[QUOTE=Reshma; 1216081]Hi.
This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?
Thanks,
Paresh[/QUOTE]Hi Reshma! When are you coming over to Thailand? I will be there from 13th to 29th. If you fancy meeting up can do. We can even explore together.
[QUOTE=Andy72; 1226103]Hi,
The Devils Den website seems to have been offline for a while. Do anyone know if they are still in operation?[/QUOTE]I just tried the site and it says CLOSED DOWN.
[QUOTE=Andy72; 1226103]Hi,
The Devils Den website seems to have been offline for a while. Do anyone know if they are still in operation?[/QUOTE]They are very much open, but have been having a disagreement with their webmaster. Hence the shutdown site.
You can reach them on: +66 (0) 87 1491996
[QUOTE=Junior; 1226373]They are very much open, but have been having a disagreement with their webmaster. Hence the shutdown site.
You can reach them on: +66 (0) 87 1491996[/QUOTE]Ok great. Thanks for the update.
I was there last Sunday. They were closed. A gril sitting there gave me a voucher for 10 % discount if I session on Monday. I went back on Monday around 5 pm and had a look at the line-up. I was not really impressed and got me a SW from Beach-road together with her friend. I sessioned for 2 hours with both of them and paid them 2000 Bath in total. Both girls were 3-holers, ATM. Everything was possible.
Carlos Primeros
[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros; 1226532]I was there last Sunday. They were closed. A gril sitting there gave me a voucher for 10 % discount if I session on Monday. I went back on Monday around 5 pm and had a look at the line-up. I was not really impressed and got me a SW from Beach-road together with her friend. I sessioned for 2 hours with both of them and paid them 2000 Bath in total. Both girls were 3-holers, ATM. Everything was possible.
Carlos Primeros[/QUOTE]Good move. The BR girls are up for just about anything these days.
Fantastic report and would be really useful for newcomers to Pattaya.
Mitian
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1223887]Appreciation: Thank you, positive ISG posters. I've learned lots and was inspired to contribute myself.
I'll be in Patts 1 thru 29 May 2012. If any ISG member wants to meet up for a drink / beer, PM me.
Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.
I wrote this guide (an annex to my 'LOS Oct 2011 Trip Report') to help newbies or those wanting advice. YMMV, all of this is IMHO, costs / times / figures are approx, hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass too much & everything's subject to change. This guide is based on my experiences and what I would / will do with a focus on saving money...[/QUOTE]
I am planning a long trip to Thailand and asia and have been lurking on the forums. Finding out about Devils den I had decided that it was a must for me, but the last few days when I visited their site it did not load. Now when you try to go it you get:
"For those of you who care for the details, it is the usual Pattaya soap opera. The husband of the building leaseholder thought it was a sharp logo and a converted shop-house that made the brand successful- not fanatical customer service and sound management. Without his wife's knowledge he came to us with a rather. Unique staffing idea- we wanted no part of it.
Seeing how well the business was doing, he became greedy, and decided that all he had to do was drive out the people who actually built the Devil's Den and then make his own website (because he has a friend who's "good with computers" this would be easy). He would then be free to implement his staffing "solution" at the same location, using the Devil's Den good reputation, but without the Den's founders as an obstacle.
Not a very clever move, but a surprisingly regular occurrence in Pattaya and a risk for any successful business that makes a name for itself. Because of course, we all know that if you cut open the goose you can get all the golden eggs at one time. In the end, it was far better for us to walk away than to compromise the values that made the Devil's Den such a unique and progressive institution.
Hijacked.
Of course, the parties using the Den name and signage now at the old LK Metro location have simply hijacked the brand and whatever portions of the business model they could puzzle together. The managers you are accustomed to dealing with have left, and unfortunately can take no responsibility for what you may experience in any business that has chosen to co-opt the name.
Our Sincere Thanks.
Despite this unfortunate ending, we would like to thank all of our loyal customers. We were always amazed by the class of patrons we were able to attract, their loyalty, and most of all the genuine kindness with which they treated the staff. Providing service, and meeting even the most difficult challenges was a true pleasure and we sincerely regret that we will no longer be able to do so."
So as far as I see things, Devils Den should be considered to be a no-go for anyone looking for a great, nasty playdate.
[QUOTE=Junior; 1226373]They are very much open, but have been having a disagreement with their webmaster. Hence the shutdown site.
You can reach them on: +66 (0) 87 1491996[/QUOTE]The site is now updated with a very different story. If anyone has spoken with the DD management I'd like to hear which version is true. Vengeful webmaster or management change? I'm guessing the latter is more likely given the "Sunday shutdown" discussed below.
Rip Devils den. Apparently a coup took place.
" The Usual Drama.
For those of you who care for the details, it is the usual Pattaya soap opera. The husband of the building leaseholder thought it was a sharp logo and a converted shop-house that made the brand successful- not fanatical customer service and sound management. Without his wife's knowledge he came to us with a rather. Unique staffing idea- we wanted no part of it.
Seeing how well the business was doing, he became greedy, and decided that all he had to do was drive out the people who actually built the Devil's Den and then make his own website (because he has a friend who's "good with computers" this would be easy). He would then be free to implement his staffing "solution" at the same location, using the Devil's Den good reputation, but without the Den's founders as an obstacle.
Not a very clever move, but a surprisingly regular occurrence in Pattaya and a risk for any successful business that makes a name for itself. Because of course, we all know that if you cut open the goose you can get all the golden eggs at one time. In the end, it was far better for us to walk away than to compromise the values that made the Devil's Den such a unique and progressive institution. Hijacked.
Of course, the parties using the Den name and signage now at the old LK Metro location have simply hijacked the brand and whatever portions of the business model they could puzzle together. The managers you are accustomed to dealing with have left, and unfortunately can take no responsibility for what you may experience in any business that has chosen to co-opt the name. Our Sincere Thanks.
Despite this unfortunate ending, we would like to thank all of our loyal customers. We were always amazed by the class of patrons we were able to attract, their loyalty, and most of all the genuine kindness with which they treated the staff. Providing service, and meeting even the most difficult challenges was a true pleasure and we sincerely regret that we will no longer be able to do so.
*
The Pattaya Devil's Den.
2009-2011.
It was loads of fun while it lasted."
My only regret is I didn't get to try it. Ah well. Beach road might have to do. Or soi 6. Or ffer other options pointed out by posters here.
If I bring my own laptop, are there any wi-fi hotspots in Central Pattaya where I can get decent wi-fi internet access? I am willing to pay for it (just not the huge price my hotel demands for providing this service).
[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros; 1226532]I was there last Sunday. They were closed. A gril sitting there gave me a voucher for 10 % discount if I session on Monday. <SNIP
Carlos Primeros[/QUOTE]Reminds me of the oldie (but still Goldie) :
Message scrawled on public toilet wall: I love Grils!
2nd message scrawled under that: That's Girls, you idiot!
3rd message under that: And what about us Grils?
Sorry! <grin >
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1227214]Rip Devils den. Apparently a coup took place.[/QUOTE]Man, that sucks. I had a very memorable afternoon there a couple years ago and I feel lucky to have a chance to try it out.
The management there was top notch. I'm sure they'll have another place up and running soon. If I had any spare coin I'd invest in those guys.
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1227315]Man, that sucks. I had a very memorable afternoon there a couple years ago and I feel lucky to have a chance to try it out.
The management there was top notch. I'm sure they'll have another place up and running soon. If I had any spare coin I'd invest in those guys.[/QUOTE]The Den is open for business in the same location as always. They are open 1pm till midnight Monday to Saturday. Sunday they are closed.
There is a dispute between the owner and the webmaster hence the site being offline and saying the Den is closed.
I was in email contact with the new manager yesterday as I will be there tomorrow. He confirmed my booking with the lady I had requested.
Yesterday I learned that they now have 30 ladies working there including an old favorite returning.
I have been using the Dens services since 2008 when it was known as the Hell Club and the owner (Cerberus) has always been straight with me. He is still the owner and operator of the Den.
So I expect to find that it is business as usual at the Den when I get there tomorrow. Any issues with the website are entirely secondary. The most important is that they have plenty of serviceminded ladies to tend to my every perversion.
After reading the two reports one from Hatguy and Junior I'm thinking maybe like many of you something doesn't add up and kind of smells?
First time reading I though Hatguy referrence " Husband of Building Leaseholder " was a Thai? Then after reading Junior report I went back and read it again!
From what I know of D. D. I thought that like most places it is finance by a Farang and they use a Thai friend or wife to run the business along with renting the building or leasing it? So now based on the wording I would assume that the Husband of the Leaseholder is actually the Farang that started or own the business? If I'm right I heard that he was sick and that had turn the operation over to the manager who I thought was John, who I thought did a great job of running the place and certainly knew a thing or two about customer service.
When I read Hatguy report, I wonder if he isn't John or someone that has a daily hand in running the place? Statement such as " We wanted no part of it, far better for us to walk away, our sincere thanks "
With Juniors report the owner is Cereberus, my assumption and history if correct is Hell club was open by the same guy that open Eden in Bangkok. When Hell club open the first week or so the owner or founder die of a heart attack and thereafter it was name D. D?
It seems like maybe the owner came back and decided to get back into action and had a few ideas that didn't seem to fit the current structure of D. D. That has become very successful while he was gone. After reading these reports I wonder one might conclude that maybe not enough credit was given to John and the owner felt he is the founder any success comes from the original concept and not the guy running it! Its a same I wonder sometimes how some people with money ever made so much?
One thing for sure the website is secondary it is just a excuse for something bigger behind the scene? What a shame?
LBM
Today I've noticed an increased police presence in areas of Pattaya normally frequented by tourists.
In at least two places, the police have re-routed traffic. For example, at the intersection of Soi LK Metro and Soi Lengkee the cops are not permitting any turns, and it's impossible to drive from Soi LK Metro to Soi Lengkee. At the intersection of Soi Buakaow and South Pattaya road, the police have declared the latter is one way toward the beach. And in a several places I've noticed small groups of police and various government vehicles parked on the shoulders of the road.
Is there some holiday I don't know about? Big parade or festival?
Anyone? Bueller?
Bunky
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1227384]After reading the two reports one from Hatguy and Junior I'm thinking maybe like many of you something doesn't add up and kind of smells?[/QUOTE]Agreed. I'd love for someone trusted and with a personal relationship with John to clarify his position and / or the facts.
To be clear, the Hatguy post was a cut and paste from the updated DD website which now tells the quoted story. There's also an email there which I contacted. The responder thanked me for my message but said there were no plans to reopen at another location since this would require a Thai investor and they were unhappy with how the whole experience worked out. Email was from admin@but was unsigned. No idea if it was John or someone else.
One key element I noticed in Junior's post is the term "new manager". I'll be curious to see how things go from now on but John sounds like a tough act to follow. One of the main reasons I was planning to rely so heavily on DD during my upcoming trip was the trust built up by John over the years on boards like this one. Mongering has its risks. And a trusted manager can help people like us navigate them more safely and efficiently.
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1227409]Today I've noticed an increased police presence in areas of Pattaya normally frequented by tourists.
Anyone? Bueller?
Bunky[/QUOTE]Per Wikipedia, today is National Sports Day, commemorating the King's gold medal in sailing at the 1967 Southeast Asian Peninsular Games. The fireworks just finished.
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1227409]Today I've noticed an increased police presence in areas of Pattaya normally frequented by tourists.
In at least two places, the police have re-routed traffic. For example, at the intersection of Soi LK Metro and Soi Lengkee the cops are not permitting any turns, and it's impossible to drive from Soi LK Metro to Soi Lengkee. At the intersection of Soi Buakaow and South Pattaya road, the police have declared the latter is one way toward the beach. And in a several places I've noticed small groups of police and various government vehicles parked on the shoulders of the road.
Is there some holiday I don't know about? Big parade or festival?
Anyone? Bueller?
Bunky[/QUOTE]Now that you mentioned it I'm wondering myself although I didn't see anything police present. On Sukhumvit and Pattaya Nua at 12 noon today I noticed they put barriers to prevent you from making a right turn into Pattaya Nua and barriers placed on Sukhumvit preventing you from making a right into Pattaya Nua. Can't think of a holiday this weekend unless someone important coming to town?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1227384]After reading the two reports one from Hatguy and Junior I'm thinking maybe like many of you something doesn't add up and kind of smells?
First time reading I though Hatguy referrence " Husband of Building Leaseholder " was a Thai? Then after reading Junior report I went back and read it again!
From what I know of D. D. I thought that like most places it is finance by a Farang and they use a Thai friend or wife to run the business along with renting the building or leasing it? So now based on the wording I would assume that the Husband of the Leaseholder is actually the Farang that started or own the business? If I'm right I heard that he was sick and that had turn the operation over to the manager who I thought was John, who I thought did a great job of running the place and certainly knew a thing or two about customer service.
When I read Hatguy report, I wonder if he isn't John or someone that has a daily hand in running the place? Statement such as " We wanted no part of it, far better for us to walk away, our sincere thanks "
With Juniors report the owner is Cereberus, my assumption and history if correct is Hell club was open by the same guy that open Eden in Bangkok. When Hell club open the first week or so the owner or founder die of a heart attack and thereafter it was name D. D?
It seems like maybe the owner came back and decided to get back into action and had a few ideas that didn't seem to fit the current structure of D. D. That has become very successful while he was gone. After reading these reports I wonder one might conclude that maybe not enough credit was given to John and the owner felt he is the founder any success comes from the original concept and not the guy running it! Its a same I wonder sometimes how some people with money ever made so much?
One thing for sure the website is secondary it is just a excuse for something bigger behind the scene? What a shame?
LBM[/QUOTE]Apparently you don't seem to understand this but I was quoting the dd website. Do have a look for yourself.
Newbie here. Coming to Pattaya on Jan 4th. I was wondering will it be very crowded? How does mongering scene looks like around that time? Are hotels / Guestrooms available without pre-reservation or you need to book in advance?
Thanks in advance
I will be in Pattaya Jan 11th to the 19th 2012 if anyone wants to get together or a beer etc. This will be my first trip here, most of the time I am in the middle east and eastern Europe. I caught yellow fever from Bahrain.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1227465]Apparently you don't seem to understand this but I was quoting the dd website. Do have a look for yourself.[/QUOTE]The manner in which you posted or paste it didn't come across the way it was suppose to but thanks for the clarification. Your clarification on the post also gives me more clarity as to what really happen between the owner and the old manager?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1227622]The manner in which you posted or paste it didn't come across the way it was suppose to but thanks for the clarification. Your clarification on the post also gives me more clarity as to what really happen between the owner and the old manager?
LBM[/QUOTE]So you didn't see the inverted commas I used? Theres no other way of posting a quote without getting into html stuff and I did not want to do that.
For everyone else my source was the website that I previously posted about. Ie devilsdenpattaya. Com
Can some one please tell me names of some safe places to monger and get good full girls in Pattaya. Bit worried after wathcing hang over 2. So please help.
Am considering purchasing a condo in Jomtien at Keha Condo, Thepprasit Rd. Any info on this place?
Is there regular Baht bus running back and forth on Tappraya to Pattaya?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1227235]If I bring my own laptop, are there any wi-fi hotspots in Central Pattaya where I can get decent wi-fi internet access? I am willing to pay for it (just not the huge price my hotel demands for providing this service).[/QUOTE]I know a guy that goes to Starbucks at the Central Mall almost daily to run his online buisness.
He never mentioned anyrthing about cost.
[QUOTE=Fck Dick; 1227523]Newbie here. Coming to Pattaya on Jan 4th. I was wondering will it be very crowded? How does mongering scene looks like around that time? Are hotels / Guestrooms available without pre-reservation or you need to book in advance?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]The truth is that it is crowded. Regarding the hotels it depends on the area you want to stay, how long and how much you want to spent.
The best value for money ones are already taken. Book your self one for a couple of nights and start searching once you are here. That's the way I do it.
During the floods a lot of very nice girls from BKK on the coco bar area (beach road). Nowdays the usual MILF trash. Still plenty of them in the bars but again the best ones are quiqkly taken for long time. E. G week etc
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1227235]If I bring my own laptop, are there any wi-fi hotspots in Central Pattaya where I can get decent wi-fi internet access? I am willing to pay for it (just not the huge price my hotel demands for providing this service).[/QUOTE]Many places where you can have a coffee and connect for free. Simply ask for the password. Eg almost all places in the "Avenue" shopping mall on second road.
If you want to do it from your hotel room get your self a SIM card for this purpose for about 800baht / month. You need to have an unlocked 3G stick (WiFi router) for that.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1227214]Rip Devils den. Apparently a coup took place.[/QUOTE]It only had to be a matter of time before the place was closed down. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand so what did they expect trying so openly to exploit the system. Maybe the under table line for payments just got too big and the girls in their pretty little uniforms didn't make enough to satisfy the various uniforms in line for payment. Nothing unusual in LOS.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1227684]Am considering purchasing a condo in Jomtien at Keha Condo, Thepprasit Road. Any info on this place?
Is there regular Baht bus running back and forth on Tappraya to Pattaya?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You might want to check out the area more in detail before purchase since there are so many to choose from and yes of course there are Baht buses!
D. D. Was closed the Website and not the establishment. Whatever closure it had nothing to do with the Law and prostitution!
LBM
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1227700]It only had to be a matter of time before the place was closed down. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand so what did they expect trying so openly to exploit the system. Maybe the under table line for payments just got too big and the girls in their pretty little uniforms didn't make enough to satisfy the various uniforms in line for payment. Nothing unusual in LOS.[/QUOTE]I have to wonder if you've ever been to Pattaya if you think DD is too obvious. The entire SMALL CITY is in your face pussy for money. (Thank You Jesus!)
So I also have to wonder what sort of NGO troll you might be.
C'mon men! Drop your socks and grab your cocks!
The pussy is wet, willing, and everywhere!
[quote=littlebigman; 1227727]d. d. was closed the website and not the establishment. whatever closure it had nothing to do with the law and prostitution!
lbm[/quote]confirmed, went past there on my way to bliss for a afternoon bj and it was still open.
the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?
[quote=pointy stick;1227778]the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?[/quote]if she's skilled and accommodating at it, what's the issue? bj bars generally have below average looking chicks. bliss is certainly not known for having lookers but like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] they do have some good suckers.
[QUOTE=El Greco;1227696]If you want to do it from your hotel room get your self a SIM card for this purpose for about 800baht / month. You need to have an unlocked 3G stick (WiFi router) for that.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Can I get an unlocked 3G stick (WiFi router) in Pattaya? How much will it cost?
[QUOTE=El Greco; 1227695]The truth is that it is crowded. Regarding the hotels it depends on the area you want to stay, how long and how much you want to spent.
The best value for money ones are already taken. Book your self one for a couple of nights and start searching once you are here. That's the way I do it.
During the floods a lot of very nice girls from BKK on the coco bar area (beach road). Nowdays the usual MILF trash. Still plenty of them in the bars but again the best ones are quiqkly taken for long time. E. G week etc[/QUOTE]Thanks. We'll be staying for 3 nights only
[QUOTE=Ricardino12;1227682]Can some one please tell me names of some safe places to monger and get good full girls in Pattaya. Bit worried after wathcing hang over 2. So please help.[/QUOTE]That movie was a joke. Just go there and walk around. The entire place is basically a huge brothel and I have never had any safety issues.
[quote=pointy stick; 1227778]confirmed, went past there on my way to bliss for a afternoon bj and it was still open.
the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?[/quote]i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s a twice a few weeks ago. there was one fairly cute girl there at 10am. the rest were not that great, but like others say, you are looking at the top of their head bouncing on your dick, so.
[QUOTE=Ricardino12;1227682]Can some one please tell me names of some safe places to monger and get good full girls in Pattaya. Bit worried after wathcing hang over 2. So please help.[/QUOTE]Boots on the ground here. Stop watching silly movies and get your ass to the monger capital of the world. It is high season, so you can expect 40 to 50 thousand women in the town! The place is off the hook this time of the year, or any time, for that matter.
[quote=pointy stick; 1227778]confirmed, went past there on my way to bliss for a afternoon bj and it was still open.
the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?[/quote]i agree, and what used to be exemplary servicing skills from the girls, despite them lacking in the looks department, has deteriorated quite a bit too. last time i was in los i had two very average bjs from girls there, a small sample, but the place felt like it's going down hill a bit from what it used to be.
[quote=pointy stick; 1227778]confirmed, went past there on my way to bliss for a afternoon bj and it was still open.
the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?[/quote]i always pick the fat chicks at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, they usually give the best blow jobs.
Try [url]http://www.devilsdenthailand.com/[/url]
It's supposedly the new official site, and looks legit, but things are pretty confused.
touched down in bangkok at about 4 am, and hightailed to pattaya, and got to my favorite hotel in the world, the penthouse at about 6. checked in, didn't unpack, off to see what was available on walking street at 6 in the morning. there were some rep001tered girls here and there, and a buttload of ladyboys, but i was still determined. started hitting the side streets off of walking street. i ran into 3 drunken ladies, two seemed like a good bet, the other i wasn't sure. all three tackled me in the middle of the road; bingo!
we went back to their bar and we had a drink and shots. one was in her early 20s, black school girl glasses, no lens, and a great rack of tits. the other early 30s, and i took to her like a fish to water. the third, nah. don't recall names at this point, let's go with pa and po. after they saw the room, they freaked, pa jumped up on the dance pole and po jumped in the fuck swing, and i was filling up the jacuzzi. i knew it would be a 9 night stay, so i brought 3 bottles of my buddy, mr. bubble.
the p&p team was hot. both loved the swing, dance pole, and playing for the mirrors over and around the bed. it took me damn near an hour to get them out of the jacuzzi, because both of them discovered the water jets. during rack operations, they both took turns sitting where ever they damn well pleased. they left at about 10, and i decided i would get some sleep. three hours later, i was ready to go again.
headed over to ian's place, sin bin on soi 13/3. i set a time for one of my favorites to meet me there, chilled with ian, and had tasty adult beverages again. mi showed up on time and was hotter than ever. she said her barfine was paid from some dude for the entire month, so she had plenty of time to play with me. good, bad, not sure. i noticed that there were a few lonely, underworked, massage ladies across the street, and i needed a massage, but i was too lazy to leave the bar for an hour. so i walked over and asked for a massage, and they tried to take me inside. i said no, i wanted take out service over at my chair in sin bin; one agreed.
sitting next to mi, getting an hour massage, and just enjoying the fuck out of life! mi and i headed to the beer garden for some chow. i've been living off of tom yum soup and rice so far, and that is fine with me. after, off to king crab to see dang, and have the crab cocktail, and dang's banana flambé; the best this world has to offer! time for more rack operations and mi has always been excellent in that department. now it's about 9 pm, i send mi off and this when i should have called it a night. the word 'should' always falls short in my life.
i'm off to see friends, and to make more friends. first stop was babydolls and mamasan and i reunited; love that woman. she has like 5 nieces that dance there, and they were all barfined already. mama brought over this fucking beauty and she played with me for a bit. then i get a call from nid, which used to work at the x-zone. but nid was not on the phone, it was miki, the mamasan that used to work at the x-zone, now at baron. i told miki i did not know where the bar was, so she came and got me. i hung at baron for a bit, but i was dying to get to the x-zone, so off i went.
x-zone was packed. the old owner is still part owner, and he was there with his son; both good people. the new half owner; no comment. omg, so many of my favorite girls were still there, and one of my favorites from rhino, returned, my hottie amp. i was surrounded by naked beauties; all wanting to play. yes, i was home! i had amp on one side, pom on the other, and pla on my lap grinding away. i had an 'i would not want to be anywhere else in the world right now' moments. its 12:30, and i'm tired as fuck, and don't want to wait until 2 for the cheaper barfine.
decision time, i love amp, but the other two are new blood and i've been curious about both of them the last couple of years; sorry amp, i barfined the other two. took off with the two, but needed to make stops on the way. these girls were a freaking blast. stopped in champion to see mamasan sue and to check out the talent and my girls went with the flow, they were having fun. mamasan sue assured me she had a couple of real hotties lined up for me, and i saw one of them already; i will return. off to the windmill to find my other heart throb, luk. place was packed, she was nowhere to be found.
pom wanted to stop by the airport, no problem. lots of hotties in there, but her friend wasn't, so we had a drink anyway. i was a happy camper. just hanging with my new girls and watching a bunch of others, which could be on the menu at a later time. pla wanted to dance, let's go! went to the small disco near the airport, name escapes me. danced for a while, but i was more concerned to get these two back to the room.
omg, what a tag team! they were both extremely passionate and a compete rush to play with. i filled the jacuzzi and pla went in head first; never saw that one before. then the competition started! who could give the longest underwater blowjob. it was their own doing, but i was fine with the game. pla won, even though she damn near drowned in the process. at one point pom passed out, but pla was still going strong. we called it short time, but they played for a good 3 hours.
i'm tired as hell, but happy to be home!
[quote=stakeout;1227858]thanks for the info. can i get an unlocked 3g stick (wifi router) in pattaya? how much will it cost?[/quote]of course. go to "two com" on pattaya thai st (south pattaya road) near the intersection with soi boukaw. the whole building is used for electronics. i believe they are in the range of 1. 500 baht. make sure you buy a 3g one for better reception not the edge.
the higher the speed the higher the price.
[quote=tomjackin; 1227981]touched down in bangkok at about 4 am, and hightailed to pattaya, and got to my favorite hotel in the world, the penthouse at about 6. checked in, didn't unpack, off to see what was available on walking street at 6 in the morning. there were some rep001tered girls here and there, and a buttload of ladyboys, but i was still determined. started hitting the side streets off of walking street. i ran into 3 drunken ladies, two seemed like a good bet, the other i wasn't sure. all three tackled me in the middle of the road; bingo!
we went back to their bar and we had a drink and shots. one was in her early 20s, black school girl glasses, no lens, and a great rack of tits. the other early 30s, and i took to her like a fish to water. the third, nah. don't recall names at this point, let's go with pa and po. after they saw the room, they freaked, pa jumped up on the dance pole and po jumped in the fuck swing, and i was filling up the jacuzzi. i knew it would be a 9 night stay, so i brought 3 bottles of my buddy, mr. bubble.
the p&p team was hot. both loved the swing, dance pole, and playing for the mirrors over and around the bed. it took me damn near an hour to get them out of the jacuzzi, because both of them discovered the water jets. during rack operations, they both took turns sitting where ever they damn well pleased. they left at about 10, and i decided i would get some sleep. three hours later, i was ready to go again.
headed over to ian's place, sin bin on soi 13/3. i set a time for one of my favorites to meet me there, chilled with ian, and had tasty adult beverages again. mi showed up on time and was hotter than ever. she said her barfine was paid from some dude for the entire month, so she had plenty of time to play with me. good, bad, not sure. i noticed that there were a few lonely, underworked, massage ladies across the street, and i needed a massage, but i was too lazy to leave the bar for an hour. so i walked over and asked for a massage, and they tried to take me inside. i said no, i wanted take out service over at my chair in sin bin; one agreed.
sitting next to mi, getting an hour massage, and just enjoying the fuck out of life! mi and i headed to the beer garden for some chow. i've been living off of tom yum soup and rice so far, and that is fine with me. after, off to king crab to see dang, and have the crab cocktail, and dang's banana flambé; the best this world has to offer! time for more rack operations and mi has always been excellent in that department. now it's about 9 pm, i send mi off and this when i should have called it a night. the word 'should' always falls short in my life.
i'm off to see friends, and to make more friends. first stop was babydolls and mamasan and i reunited; love that woman. she has like 5 nieces that dance there, and they were all barfined already. mama brought over this fucking beauty and she played with me for a bit. then i get a call from nid, which used to work at the x-zone. but nid was not on the phone, it was miki, the mamasan that used to work at the x-zone, now at baron. i told miki i did not know where the bar was, so she came and got me. i hung at baron for a bit, but i was dying to get to the x-zone, so off i went.
x-zone was packed. the old owner is still part owner, and he was there with his son; both good people. the new half owner; no comment. omg, so many of my favorite girls were still there, and one of my favorites from rhino, returned, my hottie amp. i was surrounded by naked beauties; all wanting to play. yes, i was home! i had amp on one side, pom on the other, and pla on my lap grinding away. i had an 'i would not want to be anywhere else in the world right now' moments. its 12:30, and i'm tired as fuck, and don't want to wait until 2 for the cheaper barfine.
decision time, i love amp, but the other two are new blood and i've been curious about both of them the last couple of years; sorry amp, i barfined the other two. took off with the two, but needed to make stops on the way. these girls were a freaking blast. stopped in champion to see mamasan sue and to check out the talent and my girls went with the flow, they were having fun. mamasan sue assured me she had a couple of real hotties lined up for me, and i saw one of them already; i will return. off to the windmill to find my other heart throb, luk. place was packed, she was nowhere to be found.
pom wanted to stop by the airport, no problem. lots of hotties in there, but her friend wasn't, so we had a drink anyway. i was a happy camper. just hanging with my new girls and watching a bunch of others, which could be on the menu at a later time. pla wanted to dance, let's go! went to the small disco near the airport, name escapes me. danced for a while, but i was more concerned to get these two back to the room.
omg, what a tag team! they were both extremely passionate and a compete rush to play with. i filled the jacuzzi and pla went in head first; never saw that one before. then the competition started! who could give the longest underwater blowjob. it was their own doing, but i was fine with the game. pla won, even though she damn near drowned in the process. at one point pom passed out, but pla was still going strong. we called it short time, but they played for a good 3 hours.
i'm tired as hell, but happy to be home![/quote]damn! what a helluva kickoff! can't wait to read more. i haven't been there in years, is the disco lucifers still there? becareful of them ladyboys, they look better than the girls. lol, and whats the name of your hotel, i'm digging the jacuzzi and swing and pole setting! have fun my friend, and if i can muster up the courage to endure that 18 hour flight from here on the westcoast, ill be joining you on your next thailand adventure!
[quote=tomjackin; 1227981]touched down in bangkok at about 4 am, and hightailed to pattaya, and got to my favorite hotel in the world, the penthouse at about 6. checked in, didn't unpack, off to see what was available on walking street at 6 in the morning. there were some rep001tered girls here and there, and a buttload of ladyboys, but i was still determined. started hitting the side streets off of walking street. i ran into 3 drunken ladies, two seemed like a good bet, the other i wasn't sure. all three tackled me in the middle of the road; bingo!
we went back to their bar and we had a drink and shots. one was in her early 20s, black school girl glasses, no lens, and a great rack of tits. the other early 30s, and i took to her like a fish to water. the third, nah. don't recall names at this point, let's go with pa and po. after they saw the room, they freaked, pa jumped up on the dance pole and po jumped in the fuck swing, and i was filling up the jacuzzi. i knew it would be a 9 night stay, so i brought 3 bottles of my buddy, mr. bubble.
the p&p team was hot. both loved the swing, dance pole, and playing for the mirrors over and around the bed. it took me damn near an hour to get them out of the jacuzzi, because both of them discovered the water jets. during rack operations, they both took turns sitting where ever they damn well pleased. they left at about 10, and i decided i would get some sleep. three hours later, i was ready to go again.
headed over to ian's place, sin bin on soi 13/3. i set a time for one of my favorites to meet me there, chilled with ian, and had tasty adult beverages again. mi showed up on time and was hotter than ever. she said her barfine was paid from some dude for the entire month, so she had plenty of time to play with me. good, bad, not sure. i noticed that there were a few lonely, underworked, massage ladies across the street, and i needed a massage, but i was too lazy to leave the bar for an hour. so i walked over and asked for a massage, and they tried to take me inside. i said no, i wanted take out service over at my chair in sin bin; one agreed.
sitting next to mi, getting an hour massage, and just enjoying the fuck out of life! mi and i headed to the beer garden for some chow. i've been living off of tom yum soup and rice so far, and that is fine with me. after, off to king crab to see dang, and have the crab cocktail, and dang's banana flambé; the best this world has to offer! time for more rack operations and mi has always been excellent in that department. now it's about 9 pm, i send mi off and this when i should have called it a night. the word 'should' always falls short in my life.
i'm off to see friends, and to make more friends. first stop was babydolls and mamasan and i reunited; love that woman. she has like 5 nieces that dance there, and they were all barfined already. mama brought over this fucking beauty and she played with me for a bit. then i get a call from nid, which used to work at the x-zone. but nid was not on the phone, it was miki, the mamasan that used to work at the x-zone, now at baron. i told miki i did not know where the bar was, so she came and got me. i hung at baron for a bit, but i was dying to get to the x-zone, so off i went.
x-zone was packed. the old owner is still part owner, and he was there with his son; both good people. the new half owner; no comment. omg, so many of my favorite girls were still there, and one of my favorites from rhino, returned, my hottie amp. i was surrounded by naked beauties; all wanting to play. yes, i was home! i had amp on one side, pom on the other, and pla on my lap grinding away. i had an 'i would not want to be anywhere else in the world right now' moments. its 12:30, and i'm tired as fuck, and don't want to wait until 2 for the cheaper barfine.
decision time, i love amp, but the other two are new blood and i've been curious about both of them the last couple of years; sorry amp, i barfined the other two. took off with the two, but needed to make stops on the way. these girls were a freaking blast. stopped in champion to see mamasan sue and to check out the talent and my girls went with the flow, they were having fun. mamasan sue assured me she had a couple of real hotties lined up for me, and i saw one of them already; i will return. off to the windmill to find my other heart throb, luk. place was packed, she was nowhere to be found.
pom wanted to stop by the airport, no problem. lots of hotties in there, but her friend wasn't, so we had a drink anyway. i was a happy camper. just hanging with my new girls and watching a bunch of others, which could be on the menu at a later time. pla wanted to dance, let's go! went to the small disco near the airport, name escapes me. danced for a while, but i was more concerned to get these two back to the room.
omg, what a tag team! they were both extremely passionate and a compete rush to play with. i filled the jacuzzi and pla went in head first; never saw that one before. then the competition started! who could give the longest underwater blowjob. it was their own doing, but i was fine with the game. pla won, even though she damn near drowned in the process. at one point pom passed out, but pla was still going strong. we called it short time, but they played for a good 3 hours.
i'm tired as hell, but happy to be home![/quote]damn! what a helluva kickoff! can't wait to read more. i haven't been there in years, is the disco lucifers still there? becareful of them ladyboys, they look better than the girls. lol, and whats the name of your hotel, i'm digging the jacuzzi and swing and pole setting! have fun my friend, and if i can muster up the courage to endure that 18 hour flight from here on the westcoast, ill be joining you on your next thailand adventure!
[quote=el greco; 1227994]of course. go to "two com" on pattaya thai st (south pattaya road) near the intersection with soi boukaw. the whole building is used for electronics. i believe they are in the range of 1. 500 baht. make sure you buy a 3g one for better reception not the edge.
the higher the speed the higher the price.[/quote]good advice, it's the best place i have come across in pattaya. however i think is called tuk com. can't miss it, a huge pink building on the right about 500/600 metres as you walk away from second avenue.
[QUOTE=Bonker04;1228024]Good advice, it's the best place I have come across in Pattaya. However I think is called TUK Com. Can't miss it, a huge pink building on the right about 500/600 metres as you walk away from Second Avenue.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I know the place. So for 800 baht (for the sim card) and 1 500 baht (for the wifi router) , I will have a good wifi connection?
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1228050]Thanks, I know the place. So for 800 baht (for the sim card) and 1 500 baht (for the wifi router) , I will have a good wifi connection?[/QUOTE]I'm not in Pattaya. I'm in south Thailand in a non tourist town.
My scenario is like this. I have an "aircard" not a wifi router and it plugs directly into my laptop usb. It comes with it's own SW.
It's by CAT. It's a 3g connection called CAT CDMA. It's fast enough to watch youtube, usually without waiting for spool time. The hardware cost me 3, 000. I pay another 800 baht per month for unlimited usage.
I'm replying to this because I think the other replies do not mention you have to pay for the time used. Like phone time. I may have this wrong but it seems that unless you've placed yourself where wifi is free, you need to pay the wifi provider. I my case CAT. I believe they also serve Pattaya.
C4T
Guys,
I am planing to stay here around 1 month. I ll share my observations during my visit. By the way this is my 3rd trip to Pattaya in the last 1, 5 year.
Hotel: I am staying at Pattaya Noble Palace on Soi 13/2. Monthly cost 15. 000 THB Every 2 days towel change, every 4 days bed sheet change. Place is very nice. Rooms are big enough for a single man. In addition to this, there is no reception or security after 19. 00hrs. On the gate there is a electronic lock system thats all. In other words, you can bring countless of women without paying any fee. Place has a good wifi connection. It is more than enough even for me. But do not forget there is no elevator. Guesthouse is generally full. I advise you to complete your reservation before coming to Pattaya.
[url]http://www.pattayanobleplace.com/[/url]
As everybody indicated before, barfines are going up significantly. Nowadays, barfines at go-go bars are 600THB for dancers 500THB for servants. At beer bars 300THB. I remember approximately 1 year before it was 300 THB at go-gos.
If you want to do some gym activities, I suggest you, California WOW. However, do hard negotiations in a gentlemen way. You can reduce the membership cost significantly. Place is nice, clean.
[url]http://www.californiawowx.com/Home/home.php[/url]
For mobile phone, I am using DTAC network. You can buy simcard at airport. It is 99 baht. At Pattaya 3G connection is really good. Daily full 3G connection cost is 46THB. I do not know monthly cost. When I learn I will update you.
Devil's Den. Yep RIP.
[QUOTE=G 2007; 689009]Can anybody advice me if there are any special places I need to go for a good 3-some. I mean where it is not just a show. But where there girls do the real thing? And how much do you pay for this for all night?
Are the any bars with nude dancers and good shows in Pattaya?
Thanks for you advice.[/QUOTE]What kind of 3-some you want? 2girls and 1men?
Or 2men and 1girl?
Given the recent postings and website issues at the Den I thought I would share my recent (Saturday 17th dec.) observations with you.
I arrived in BKK Saturday morning and did the usual taxi transfer, accommodation check-in and a few other things before I set sail for Soi LK. I arrived at Billabong at 12. 15 to have a cold drink and to be in a position to observe the DD ladies. There were already a few of them outside the club. As my view was a bit obscured I quickly move to the adjacent bar to have a better vantage point. While changing bars I did a quick das over to the Den to handover some fruit I had bought for the ladies. I was greated by Wassana and Sammi, who remembered me from a past trip. Little did Sammi know that I had booked her for the day.
While I was drinking my drink at the adjacent bar Cerberus came by and said Hello, before heading back to work.
I crossed the street around 12. 45 to get a good look at the full line-up at 1pm. There were 25+ ladies in the line-up – many familiar faces and some new ones too. I learned that quite a few ladies had come back during recent days. So the line-up now includes: Sarah, Wan, Toni and Celine. I also believe Dar might return shortly.
After the line-up I had a chat with Sunny the new manager and we took care of the business end of things. I had originally booked 6 different ladies a month in advance, only to see 3 of them leave before my trip. So I had made a few amendments prior to my trip. All in all, my bookings were with 5 ladies when I entered the Den and with 9 ladies when I left the Den – so the line-up is as good as ever. Several of the ladies I was afraid I was going to miss due to the turmoil have now returned and I have a pretty full agenda with 8 bookings for the coming week.
This is my 6th visit to the Den (and Hell Club) and aside from the website being down and the postings on addicts, it very much seems business as usual for the clients.
One funny story from my day with Sammi I wanted to share. Following my long trip I was very tired to say the least and let her know from the beginning of our date that it would be a quiet day. As we came back to my condo she started to make plans for our day as we also had a party to attend in the evening. She said she would take care of me 5 times or 6 if I liked. I had to negotiate that down to 3 times as I was tired after the flight and severely hungover after the party.
TomJackin,
So let me get this straight, you had a honey almost drown from deep throating you underwater to long? WTF! LOL! Sounds like GREAT times. I would say have a sambuca shot for me but we'll hold that off until I see you again in DR
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Hi BJ here.
One of the forums I regularly post on graciously invited me to their sexmas party on Saturday in Pattaya. Santa and a guy with a guitar were very good and well appreciated by all. Some of the people who left the venue before me missed this girl who was flashing her bits for all to see latch on to me (I don't know what it is but I seem to attract the crazy ones). She kept asking for a full internal examination in a private room, so I rubbed her clit a few times and told her that in my professional opinion she was fine. Bless one of the other girls who was standing at the bar, she caught my eye and gestured to me that it would be a very bad idea to take this girl anywhere. I laughed and gave her a reassuring glance to say I knew what she meant. After going for a cigarette in the other bar I noticed she had latched on to some poor guy sitting on a circular sofa (I smiled and thought good luck mate).
I was very impressed with the choice of ladies when we got to Spanky's. I sat next to (my apologies at this point I can remember he was from New Zealand but was way too pissed to remember his forum name, sorry). After a few san Miguel's my friend picked a very nice slim lady with curly hair which I have to say was a very good choice by him. My intention at this point was to sup a few more beers before selecting my flesh for the evening. I had spotted a striking looking lady with beautiful eyes and an 10/10 body, unfortunately after I had been to the toilet and ordered another beer she was nowhere to be seen. Undeterred by this minor setback I began to scan the more than ample choice still dancing. I caught the eye of a lady with an absolutely gorgeous face which lit up when she smiled (a smile which would make flowers blossom). She had medium length dyed hair, a sort of off blonde colour and an amazing pair of tits with the grandest nipples I have ever seen.
I bought her a few drinks and went through the usual array of bullshit questions. After about half an hour or so I suggested we depart to do the necessary deed. The taxi's were a pain in the arse and the ones I could see were asking for ridiculous money so I ended up walking back to the hotel which was in Soi 13. As we were walking I was amazed when I realized just how small she was, the smaller the stature the more of a turn on it is for me. After the shower I spent a long time kissing her and fondling those amazing tits and sucking those huge nipples for an inordinate amount of time. I interrupted the BJ and insisted she got straight on with the condom. She jumped on top and I took a grip of her tiny waist and started pumping away like I was possessed by demons. Honesty has to take a front seat at this point, I had gone out on the Friday night before with some staff from the salon and it started to exact it's insidious revenge, the captain betrayed me and began to wilt badly (putting on a condom doesn't ever help the situation, but I would never consider not using one). It was really frustrating as this was one of the cutest and hottest ladies from the bar, in my humble opinion. Bless her though, she put everything she had into a HJ which had the desired effect and finished me off grandly. Oh well onwards and upwards (or not, apparently). We went back to spanky's and had a few more drinks, well more than a few to be honest.
I eventually decided it was time to draw the curtain on the evenings proceedings and the lady graciously escorted me to a taxi on the main road (thought afterwards she may have been hoping I was going to ask her to join me back at the hotel again but at this point I couldn't even raise a smile never mind anything else). Great party and I really enjoyed myself.
Regards,
BJ
Hey all,
I'm gearing up for my 2nd trip to Pattaya end of Jan. I've read the FF and there doesn't seem to be much discussion on the Soapies in town!
I realize they are a bit pricey but theres just something about a hot naked women all soaped up rubbing herself all over that gets my motor running so I have to partake a couple times while I'm in town.
Last time I visited SabaiDee and SabaiLand, ended up doing SabaiDee twice as I never saw anything I liked at SabaiLand. However, I was wondering if anyone has any feedback regarding Rasputins or any others I have missed. Those are the only 3 I know off.
Any suggestions, or websites with current pricing or a lists of soapies would be welcome, or any other insights!
Thanks all!
As season is starting off and some of you guys might like to save time and to avoid lousy clubs, I hereby give my personal rating based on :
1. Atmosphere and Service 40%,
2. Quality of Dancers 40%,
3. Prices 20%.
Dolphin's Gogo Bar Rating Pattaya 2011/2012.
*****
Airport.
Baccara.
Diamond.
Fahrenheit.
What's up?
****
Peppermint.
Super baby.
TQ 1.
***
Champagne.
Living Dolls Showcase.
Oasis.
Sweethearts.
**
Alcatraz.
Champion.
Sapphire.
*
Iron Club.
Moon Club.
Spanky's.
Below zero. If you have a house in Chonburi and want to see your neighbors' grandma dancing, these are the places to go :
Club Nevada.
Far East Rock.
20 clubs out of 60 rated. Revised on time to time bases. Current Dec. 20/2011.
[QUOTE=Dolphin12; 1229065]As season is starting off and some of you guys might like to save time and to avoid lousy clubs, I hereby give my personal rating based on :
1. Atmosphere and Service 40,
2. Quality of Dancers 40,
3. Prices 20.
Dolphin's Gogo Bar Rating Pattaya 2011/2012.
*
Airport.
Baccara.
Diamond.
Fahrenheit.[/QUOTE]I certainly agree with Airport and Baccara. Not been to many of the other places.
[QUOTE=Dolphin12; 1229065]As season is starting off and some of you guys might like to save time and to avoid lousy clubs, I hereby give my personal rating based on :
1. Atmosphere and Service 40,
2. Quality of Dancers 40,
3. Prices 20.
Dolphin's Gogo Bar Rating Pattaya 2011/2012...[/QUOTE]No Babydolls on the list?
I am afraid we are very different style then.
Epic night at the "I" Bar. Not really sure what the fuck happen, but I woke up with two sisters! Only in Pattaya!
[QUOTE=JohnHorner;1229012]Any suggestions, or websites with current pricing or a lists of soapies would be welcome, or any other insights![/QUOTE]Check out Honey Massage on Soi Honey. Very new rooms compared to the places you mentioned. Pricing is the same as these places.
When traveling from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, where in Pattaya Bus station is located? How far it is from Beach road or Soi 4? What are the best methods of transportation?
P. S. : First time to Pattaya
[QUOTE=Michi; 1229297]No Babydolls on the list?
I am afraid we are very different style then.[/QUOTE]I will revise the list beginning January and check your club to be rated!
[QUOTE=Fck Dick;1229519]When traveling from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, where in Pattaya Bus station is located? How far it is from Beach road or Soi 4? What are the best methods of transportation?[/QUOTE]The station for the airport bus is just outside Jomtien (say 10 minutes walk to the beach). You can catch a songteaw (pickup) next to the station for 10 baht which goes to Pattaya (just flag one down and get on, hand over 10 baht when you get down). Catch one going uphill, I. E. Back the way you came. Drop at Pattaya South Road (Pattaya Tai) and walk left. 2 minutes to the start of Beach Road.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1229551]The station for the airport bus is just outside Jomtien (say 10 minutes walk to the beach). You can catch a songteaw (pickup) next to the station for 10 baht which goes to Pattaya (just flag one down and get on, hand over 10 baht when you get down). Catch one going uphill, I. E. Back the way you came. Drop at Pattaya South Road (Pattaya Tai) and walk left. 2 minutes to the start of Beach Road.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much.
Does anyone know any Lesbian show in Pattaya? What are the recommendations?
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1229551]The station for the airport bus is just outside Jomtien (say 10 minutes walk to the beach). You can catch a songteaw (pickup) next to the station for 10 baht which goes to Pattaya (just flag one down and get on, hand over 10 baht when you get down). Catch one going uphill, I. E. Back the way you came. Drop at Pattaya South Road (Pattaya Tai) and walk left. 2 minutes to the start of Beach Road.[/QUOTE]The closest bus station to where Fck Dick wants to go on Soi 4 with Beach Road is the one on North Pattaya / Pattaya Nua. If you look at the bottom right of this map [url]http://www.mapofthailand.org/travel-map/pattaya-city-map/[/url] Where it says Sukhumvit Road and look just above that you will see where it says Air-Con Bus to Bangkok and Bangkok Airport. This is the stop he wants to go to. From there as you said he can take a songthaew (baht bus) 5 minutes away to Soi 4. [url]http://thailandeveryday.********.com/2010/05/lunch-in-pattaya.html[/url] If he goes all the way past Pattaya to Jomtien's bus station then it will take him an extra 30 minutes on the baht bus trying to backtrack.
[QUOTE=Fck Dick;1229571]Does anyone know any Lesbian show in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Sometimes I have one in my room. Contact Tomjackin; he is probably having one in his room right now.
[QUOTE=Fck Dick;1229571]Does anyone know any Lesbian show in Pattaya? What are the recommendations?[/QUOTE]Champagne a-Go-Go on Soi LK Metro. Every night at about 10pm.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1229601]you will see where it says Air-Con Bus to Bangkok and Bangkok Airport.[/QUOTE]There's an airport bus that goes to Pattaya Nua also? Didn't realise that.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1229678]There's an airport bus that goes to Pattaya Nua also? Didn't realise that.[/QUOTE]That Bus service is called Bell Travel. I believe you can google it and you will find the website and their schedule. It is across from the regular bus station 200 baht to the airport and take like 1 1/2 hour.
LBM
Several years back I used a bus service Bangkok to Pattaya, I'm pretty sure it was Bell. They picked up from Nana (boom boom) hotel and dropped me at Queen Vic, Soi sex, Pattaya. Booking beforehand obviously required. It was a tedious means of travel, nowadays just take taxi 1200b.
[QUOTE=Noddy;1229696]Several years back I used a bus service Bangkok to Pattaya, I'm pretty sure it was Bell. They picked up from Nana (boom boom) hotel and dropped me at Queen Vic, Soi sex, Pattaya. Booking beforehand obviously required. It was a tedious means of travel, nowadays just take taxi 1200b.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do have those Toyota vans that go around to pick you up not sure of the cost. I have been using the Taxi service on Soi 4, near the Nana City Inn. For a meter taxi car one of those Toyota Vios I pay 1, 000 the last time. If you need a bigger vehicle they usually have a driver with a Volvo that will run you 1200/1500 baht including toll.
LBM
Anybody intrested in sharing cab to airport on above date PM me
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1229690]That Bus service is called Bell Travel.[/QUOTE]Ah, of course, Bell. I was stuck on those big blue & white buses. I believe Bell can drop you most places in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1229466]Check out Honey Massage on Soi Honey. Very new rooms compared to the places you mentioned. Pricing is the same as these places.[/QUOTE]On this issue, thing is, last time (1 year ago) I popped into SabaiDee line-up was very poor: either average-looking or short, fat girls. So I quit without trying.
Maybe they give a top service but for that price (still 1. 800 bath 90 mins?) I expect the girl to be a little attractive!
Don't know about Honey Massage, maybe you can tell us.
Made it back to Thailand. Now in Pattaya after a few near misses on the highway in the taxi (Mr Keak). Not my drivers fault. There are some real idiots on the roads! LOL.
Anyway, went down to Heaven Above. There was one really hot big boobed nice arsed girl there. Ill go back for that and see if she will let me taste her. Don't remember the number but she was on fire.
Haven't had a chance (too tired) to check out much else but I will report back later on some good places etc. I plan to go the less traveled route via massage places and see what can be found. Hatguy
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1230017]Ah, of course, Bell. I was stuck on those big blue & white buses. I believe Bell can drop you most places in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I have used Bell Travel Service several times. They are an extremely professional organization, and in one memorable instance went the extra mile for me. IMO they are the best [i]dollar value [/i]door to door service option between Bangkok / Suvarnabhumi Airport and Pattaya.
[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/[/url]
SunLover
Our ship will be parked overnight in Laem Chabang. Our first idea was to go to Bangkok (where we have been) but I am now comint to the conclusion that may be too frantic. Plan B is to take a cab to Pattaya, stay there overnight (been there) and then back in mid-morning to the port.
I'm told stories about the Laem Chabang taxi mafia and the extortion fares they charge. Should I just make arrangements with a Pattaya outfit for transportation? If so, any recommendations?
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1230528]I have used Bell Travel Service several times. They are an extremely professional organization . .[/QUOTE]They really are an example of how well the Thais can operate this kind of business when they try. I always use them now between the airport and Pattaya, door to door for B200. I reckon the thousand baht I save on the taxi is better used on Soi 6.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1229604]Sometimes I have one in my room. Contact Tomjackin; he is probably having one in his room right now.[/QUOTE]Mr. E.
You either had a good hunch or know me too well!
[QUOTE=Vittu; 1230538]SNIP.
I'm told stories about the Laem Chabang taxi mafia and the extortion fares they charge. Should I just make arrangements with a Pattaya outfit for transportation? If so, any recommendations?[/QUOTE]I know that these 2 specialize in Pattaya to Swampy airport but I expect they'd welcome the business and treat you fairly.
Mr. Nok 086835 8515. He did very well for me with a clean safe car and a good driver. Charges 1000 bt to the airport.
Mr. T has a good reputation on this board but I've not tried him personally. 081 258 7716. Charges 900 bt to the airport.
C4T
Logistics:
Flew China Air for the first time because of the schedule and price. Really good service from the flight attendants and plenty of movies to watch. I only have a couple of complaints. First, the food kind of sucked; but still eatable (except for the eggs). Second, they are strict about the carry ons. Usually I check in one bag on the way over because I bring tequila with me, and bring the bag and my backpack on the way back so I don't have to wait at the damn carousel for forever and a day; not with this airline.
I used Mr. Keak taxi service for the first time and I was impressed with the cars and service. My plane was almost 2 hours late getting in BKK, but the driver was still there holding up my name. And the dude had patience. He waited in tow while I stopped at the 7-11 to get a sim card, phone minutes, and tasty adult beverages for the trip. All tolls included. 1000 to Pattaya, and 900 back to BKK. E-mails were returned quickly.
The hotel of choice for the past 15 years was the Penthouse (report posted in that thread). Why they keep letting me stay there; who knows. I've broken more shit in that hotel than any other guest. After my Christmas Eve party, the place looked almost as bad as the Hangover movie;"almost" was the key word.
Base Camp:
Sin Bin on Soi 13/3 was base camp for the entire stay. If you ever get a chance to stop by and meet the owner, Ian, do so. I met up with fellow monger GargantaProfunda (Gill) and Sin Bin is where we usually started and ended; place never seems to close. I've also fished for women from this bar, as they walk back and forth on the Soi, and had good success in the process.
The "Posse" (Nicknamed by Ian)
The Brat. One of my X-Zone buddies and pretty much was around whenever I called or she called. Hot dark skin girl that has Indian looking features. Why the Brat? She was just that from time to time, but that was part of her charm as well.
The Hottie. Another of my X-Zone buddies. She was a team player with the brat.
The Sister. I woke up one afternoon and gave the brat a kiss and a pat on the ass. Then I felt someone patting me on the ass, and I knew the hottie didn't sleep over. I asked the brat,"Who in the hell is this?" She replied,"Oh, that's my sister." I officially welcomed her to the team shortly thereafter.
The Beauty. Yet another of my X-Zone buddies and a friend as well. I've known her for a couple of years and was always fun to play with.
The "Posse" knew of my whereabouts most of the trip and were always a phone call away. The girls never mentioned money because they knew I would take care of them one way or another. They definitely made this trip special. None of them were jealous of the others; they were real team players.
The Coconut Bar:
The venders screwed up the beach action for both weekends. But during the weekdays, there were a lot of women available; more than I've ever saw before. My guess is it was because of high season. I only pulled one from the Coconut Bar, wasn't real impressed.
Clubs:
Halo. What is this fucking place? Gill and I took a stroll through and saw no reason for this place to exist.
Babydolls. Still one of my favorites. Mamasan has at least 5 nieces that dance there, keeping things in the family; I like that. Always a nice line up for hotties.
X-Zone. This place has changed due to ownership and Mamasan changes. When Miki left the club, she took many of the girls with her. But some of my favorites returned and we rejoiced.
Champion. When I was there in the summer, Mamasan Sue had a lineup of about 30-35 girls, now she is down to about 20-25. Still a decent selection of hotties.
Bacarra & Happy. Love both these places, but for some reason I could not get to either one more than twice. The lineup was good as always.
Baron. The is where Mamasan Miki now works. Not a big place and Miki has a few spinners, but she is still in the recruiting process.
Lucifer. Gill wanted to check out the place so we stopped in for a drink. It was still somewhat early and Gill and I was checking out the talent, and there was talent. Then, I met Lucifer's daughter! She came out of nowhere and had had this demon look in her eyes. Then she got closer and said,"I really like you." Then she wrapped her arms around me and refused to let go. I look over at Gill, who is staring down the talent, and I yell,"A little help here!" He came over, pried her off, and I ran out of the damn place.
"I" Bar. I quickly became fond of this place. The amount of women that flowed through that place was incredible. I only went up stairs a couple of times because I felt it was overcrowded and could not walk around as freely as I wanted. Gill and I was with the Posse one night in the "I" Bar and all of us were standing on the platform behind the pool tables. There was a party of six girls next to us that started sharing their bottle of Johnnie Walker. Bottle did not last long, so I started buying shots, then bottles, and it turned out to be one epic party. I went through two batteries on my digital and a shitload of Baht, but I have no regrets.
The Mamasan's Daughter Dilemma:
Gill and I were leaving Champion one night, and sitting outside next to the door was this stunner wearing regular clothes. I stop Gill because I wanted to say Hello. I asked her why she was out here and in perfect English, she said,"I'm waiting for my friend." She said she was just in Pattaya visiting family and had to leave in a couple of days. Shortly thereafter, Mamasan Sue walks out the door and said,"Oh, you met my daughter." I told Mama that I was just being friendly and to hold back her punches. I told Mama that we were just leaving to go to the "I" Bar. And for whatever reason, Mama told her to go with us.
Get to "I" Bar, drinks and shots start flowing; go figure. Gill decides to go back to Champion to check on one of the hotties he passed up. The daughter and I are drinking like fish and then she said,"I hope you take care of me because I'm getting drunk." I explained to her that there are two reasons that won't happen. First, the Brat and the Hottie are passed out in my bed and they may not play well with her. Second, you are Mamasan Sue's daughter, who happens to be my good friend. She looks, smiles, and said,"I'm not Mamasan's daughter." I said,"OK, so we will have to consider the first reason." Gill shows back up, and now the daughter is calling in more troops. Another stunner shows up! I told her to put that phone away; no more stunners allowed at this point. Lucky ass Gill took home the so called "daughter." The other stunner went elsewhere.
Overall thoughts:
Pattaya was packed! Tourists, mongers, and more importantly. 1000's and 1000's of women. Almost everywhere I looked, there were spinners and stunners. I must have said,"Oh my Buddha!" a thousand times during the trip.
The last night we were all partying at the Sin Bin, and Ian looked over and said,"You are going to miss the Posse." He was dead right; I already do!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1230873]"I" Bar. I quickly became fond of this place. The amount of women that flowed through that place was incredible. I only went up stairs a couple of times because I felt it was overcrowded and could not walk around as freely as I wanted. Gill and I was with the Posse one night in the "I" Bar and all of us were standing on the platform behind the pool tables. There was a party of six girls next to us that started sharing their bottle of Johnnie Walker.[/QUOTE]Excellent summary Tomjackin. This is yet another reason why I love Pattaya. Where else on this planet do you get women inviting you over to their table to drink THEIR liquor? Shit just doesn't happen.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1230873]Logistics:
Flew China Air for the first time because of the schedule and price. Really good service from the flight attendants and plenty of movies to watch. I only have a couple of complaints. First, the food kind of sucked; but still eatable (except for the eggs). Second, they are strict about the carry ons. Usually I check in one bag on the way over because I bring tequila with me, and bring the bag and my backpack on the way back so I don't have to wait...[/QUOTE]Man, I'm booking my next trip, reading your report, I'm all Ah-baht-it. LOL, I'm happy you had a blast. I just got to psyche, myself up to endure this marathon flight. But it sounds like its worth it. Amazing Report!
Excellent report-
I will be in Bangkok and Pattaya in April. Looking forward to some good times
What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .