Sao Paulo Reports

I will stay in SP for just 1 afternoon and evening. My idea is to go to a clinica in the afternoon. Of the most famous ones (Miruna, Tangara, Brooklyn, EnjoySpa), which is the most likely for me to find a girl doing CIM? Also I would like to know if clinicas are open at night and about when they close. Thank you!

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2016375]Of the most famous ones (Miruna, Tangara, Brooklyn, EnjoySpa), which is the most likely for me to find a girl doing CIM? Also I would like to know if clinicas are open at night and about when they close.[/QUOTE]I think ABG is our expert on the discussion board for CIM. He always reports when girls do it, LOL!

Monday to Friday, most clinicas are open until 9 pm, although Enjoy stays open until the small hours (3 am?

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2015852]RTFF and go to a good clinica.[/QUOTE]What does RTFF mean? I am looking for an online agency where I can see photos of the girls and book them there. What are the best sites like this for Sao Paulo?

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[QUOTE=Torgoch;2016384]I think ABG is our expert on the discussion board for CIM. He always reports when girls do it, LOL!

Monday to Friday, most clinicas are open until 9 pm, although Enjoy stays open until the small hours (3 am?[/QUOTE]Tangará is the place for CIM / CIP.

PM me for details.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2016629]Tangar is the place for CIM / CIP.

PM me for details.

ABG.[/QUOTE]CIP means doing so bareback. Are you saying you can get bareback sex at Tangara, or did you make a mistake in saying CIP?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2016726]CIP means doing so bareback. Are you saying you can get bareback sex at Tangara, or did you make a mistake in saying CIP?[/QUOTE]Sorry, it's CIM.

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2016375]I will stay in SP for just 1 afternoon and evening. My idea is to go to a clinica in the afternoon. Of the most famous ones (Miruna, Tangara, Brooklyn, EnjoySpa), which is the most likely for me to find a girl doing CIM? Also I would like to know if clinicas are open at night and about when they close. Thank you![/QUOTE]Probably Tangara will have the most of girls doing CIM, I've just arrived from there, went with Beatriz, a nice morena, 24 yo, who is a master performer of CIM. Gave her 50 reais extra for the CIM. One hour 150 reais.

Tangara closes at 10 PM from Mo to Sat and 8 PM at Sundays.

ABG.

Can you clarify the free girls bit?

Do you pay a set price for the hour and see as many girls during that period?

I don't know if the venues I visited in Rio were considered Cinicas or prives (E. G 4 x 4), so I'm not sure if the rules differ.

[QUOTE=DrClitorius;2015808]Sao Paulo's trip reports.

Brooklin Massagem.

I found the scene so structured to my taste when they make introductions with the free girls every 15' (like a rodizio's wg), don't have the Brazilian party ambient, just choose a girl with the receptionist and go on with her to the room (average ranking: 5-6 points, may be 2 or 3 7's)...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Moiz33;2017865]Can you clarify the free girls bit?

Do you pay a set price for the hour and see as many girls during that period?

I don't know if the venues I visited in Rio were considered Cinicas or prives (E. G 4 x 4), so I'm not sure if the rules differ.[/QUOTE]Not a flat rate.

Free girls= girl's that are not busy in the rooms, able to go with the client who choose them.

You pay R200 per girl per hour.

DC.

There is a new mulata working at Tangara, Ketty is her name, afro-brasilian, nice face natural tits, brasilain body, nice butt.

Very goo DFK, than BBBJ, rimming and BBBJ / CIM.

Vaginal is also very good, she is new in the business. Very thight pussy.

After finished with Ketty I went first to Enjoy Spa and than Chanés 57, met JUJU, a nice brasilian morema, completa with DKF, BBBJ / CIM and ANAL.

Very nice atmosfere at the bar / boite.

ABG.

Eduarda, 20 YO, nice face, model type body, morena clara.

Very GFE, greta DFK.

Excellent BBBJ and CIM, Came twice in her mouth. Gave her 50 reais tip.

Cost : girl + room 150 reais = 1 h.

IMO Tangara now has the best selection of young girls of the clinicas of So Paulo.

ABG.

We had a wonderfull evening, had some beers first took Cleo to the room, nice brunette, small, nice face and nice body.

GFE, DFK, BBBJ, deep throat, vaginal.

Gran finale: BBBJ & CIM.

Second round went with Sofia, 20 YO ruiva, blue eyes, GFE. Very good BBBJ than she on top, another BBBJ and a gerat CIM.

ABG.

Me and my friend Carlos had a wonderfull evening there.

First took Alice to the room, nice brunette, tall, model type, nice face and nice body.

GFE, DFK, BBBJ, vaginal.

Gran finale: BBBJ & CIM.

Second round went with Thamires, 20 YO blond, blue eyes, GFE.

Very good BBBJ, deep throat, than she came on top, another BBBJ. Didn't do CIM.

ABG.

SP Trip Report.

I had been wanting to go to SP for several years, but things always fell through. This time everything fell into place and I was able to arrange for a 3 night visit to SP. I stayed in an AirBNB apartment in Jardin-Paulista area because I was more interested in the Boates rather than the clinicas which would have been more readily accessible from the Moema area. I arrived on an overnight flight and took the Airport Shuttle to Congonhas Airport for about 48 are. From there I took a taxi to an AirBNB private room so I could sleep for a few hours before I checked into the actual AirBNB where I would stay. (I had to do this because early check in wasn't available and after traveling 9+ hours, I wanted to rest up before heading out for the night). Except for this taxi ride, the rest of the time I used Uber which was easy and inexpensive compared to the taxis, including taking back to the airport for my return trip home. My first Uber driver was English speaking and so I hired him as a private driver on an hourly basis for taking me around one day. (If anyone wants his contact info, PM me). I met up with Rovnak who is an expat living in SP and another ISG member that had been in SP for 2 weeks (sorry don't know screen name). Rovnak is a good wealth information and I appreciated him guiding me on my first trip to SP.

Wednesday Night.

 Scandallo: well reviewed on this board. I got in right at 7 pm which is the cut off time to have the 150 R entry (instead of 220 R). Good food. Large number of girls, many curvy and voluptuous types with the famous Brazilian "bundas". Unfortunately, I prefer either the GND or model type slim girls (VS or SI model type bodies) and although there were a few mixed in, I didn't see any that I was willing to pay the 500 R / hour going rate + room charge (150 R? I started winding down around 11 pm and wound up leaving alone soon after.

Thursday Night.

 Bomboa 222: not as well reviewed on this board as above, but I actually liked it better. Got there about 9 pm. 250 R entry all of which can be used for consumption. When arrived, some girls from earlier in the day were leaving and new girls working the night were coming in. Not as many girls as Scandallo, but more my type. Good food. More of a bar-restaurant feel. Good band. Found 2 girls my type willing to do 3 some with girl-girl show, so took them to my apartment for 500 R each + 200 R fee to the house. Expensive but worth it. I saw a sign somewhere inside stating from 12-5 pm, the entry was 150 R. With the quality of some of the girls that were leaving when I arrived, it may be worth it to check out Bomboa earlier in the day.

Friday Night.

 Casarao: Per Rovnak, unlike the prior two venues, this had more independent girls / freelancers. He advised me to get there at 10:30 pm which I did with 30 R entry, which covers 3 beers, or 1 caipirinha like I was drinking. Right when I got in, it wasn't crowded and I saw a few that were my type, but I wanted to see what else would be available as the night went on. Unfortunately, I never saw them again and as it filled up by around 12:30 am, I didn't see any more that I was interested in. This venue is more like a dance club and very crowded the later it gets.

Miscellaneous.

 Cafe Photo: I was told by Rovnak that this is also another freelancer place and I really wanted to visit this venue, but did not get to on this trip.

 As mentioned a few times on this board, the best days for Scandalo, Bomboa 222, and Cafe Photo are Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. Casarao is good on weekend nights.

 Lotus Lounge: I wanted to check out the higher end clinicas, but only made it to this one. Girls are on site, but you choose from a tablet and there is no presentation like in the mid and lower clinicas.

 Brooklin, EnjoySpa: Girls do a quick presentation and I thought they were equal in quality of facilities and girls.

 Chane 57: Newer clinica that allows you to hang out with the girls if you buy drinks.

 I really struggled with the Portuguese language. Although I speak enough Spanish to get me by in other countries and even though girls and other people understand Spanish, they respond in Portuguese.

 [URL]GPGuia.net[/URL]: It is easy to use a VPN (I used Hola) create an account and access this Brazilian forum from outside Brazil. Use Google translate to read the forum. It gives you a complete run down of all boates, clinicas, prives, and independents not only in SP, but several cities throughout Brazil.

Summary:

This is my first trip to SP and second to Brazil with a prior trip to Fortaleza 7 years ago. When I read about the boates in this forum, I was intrigued since I prefer the "bar" or "club" scene. I think another poster mentioned the "high" one can get in these environments from having beautiful women vying for your attention. I did enjoy myself, but can't really say that the cost was worth it since I didn't find my "Adriana Lima", or "Alessandra Ambrosio" types. The clinicas are much less expensive, but also less interactive prior to choosing a girl with the "higher end" clinicas having even less interaction having to choose from photos on a tablet.

I'm glad I only visited for 3 nights and can now check SP off my list of places I wanted to visit. I enjoyed my visit, but didn't find anything that's drawing my back quickly.

In the meantime, there's still more of the world to explore.

[QUOTE=Bijou;2022013]SP Trip Report.

I had been wanting to go to SP for several years, but things always fell through. This time everything fell into place and I was able to arrange for a 3 night visit to SP. I stayed in an AirBNB apartment in Jardin-Paulista area because I was more interested in the Boates rather than the clinicas which would have been more readily accessible from the Moema area. I arrived on an overnight flight and took the Airport Shuttle to Congonhas Airport for about 48 are. From there I took a taxi to an AirBNB private room so I could sleep for a few hours before I checked into the actual AirBNB where I would stay. (I had to do this because early check in wasn't available and after traveling 9+ hours, I wanted to rest up before heading out for the night). Except for this taxi ride, the rest of the time I used Uber which was easy and inexpensive compared to the taxis, including taking back to the airport for my return trip home. My first Uber driver was English speaking and so I hired him as a private driver on an hourly basis for taking me around one day. (If anyone wants his contact info, PM me). I met up with Rovnak who is an expat living in SP and another ISG member that had been in SP for 2 weeks (sorry don't know screen name). Rovnak is a good wealth information and I appreciated him guiding me on my first trip to SP.

Wednesday Night.

 Scandallo: well reviewed on this board. I got in right at 7 pm which is the cut off time to have the 150 R entry (instead of 220 R). Good food. Large number of girls, many curvy and voluptuous types with the famous Brazilian "bundas". Unfortunately, I prefer either the GND or model type slim girls (VS or SI model type bodies) and although there were a few mixed in, I didn't see any that I was willing to pay the 500 R / hour going rate + room charge (150 R? I started winding down around 11 pm and wound up leaving alone soon after.

Thursday Night.

 Bomboa 222: not as well reviewed on this board as above, but I actually liked it better. Got there about 9 pm. 250 R entry all of which can be used for consumption. When arrived, some girls from earlier in the day were leaving and new girls working the night were coming in. Not as many girls as Scandallo, but more my type. Good food. More of a bar-restaurant feel. Good band. Found 2 girls my type willing to do 3 some with girl-girl show, so took them to my apartment for 500 R each + 200 R fee to the house. Expensive but worth it. I saw a sign somewhere inside stating from 12-5 pm, the entry was 150 R. With the quality of some of the girls that were leaving when I arrived, it may be worth it to check out Bomboa earlier in the day.

Friday Night.

 Casarao: Per Rovnak, unlike the prior two venues, this had more independent girls / freelancers. He advised me to get there at 10:30 pm which I did with 30 R entry, which covers 3 beers, or 1 caipirinha like I was drinking. Right when I got in, it wasn't crowded and I saw a few that were my type, but I wanted to see what else would be available as the night went on. Unfortunately, I never saw them again and as it filled up by around 12:30 am, I didn't see any more that I was interested in. This venue is more like a dance club and very crowded the later it gets.

Miscellaneous.

 Cafe Photo: I was told by Rovnak that this is also another freelancer place and I really wanted to visit this venue, but did not get to on this trip.

 As mentioned a few times on this board, the best days for Scandalo, Bomboa 222, and Cafe Photo are Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. Casarao is good on weekend nights.

 Lotus Lounge: I wanted to check out the higher end clinicas, but only made it to this one. Girls are on site, but you choose from a tablet and there is no presentation like in the mid and lower clinicas.

 Brooklin, EnjoySpa: Girls do a quick presentation and I thought they were equal in quality of facilities and girls.

 Chane 57: Newer clinica that allows you to hang out with the girls if you buy drinks.

 I really struggled with the Portuguese language. Although I speak enough Spanish to get me by in other countries and even though girls and other people understand Spanish, they respond in Portuguese.

 [URL]GPGuia.net[/URL]: It is easy to use a VPN (I used Hola) create an account and access this Brazilian forum from outside Brazil. Use Google translate to read the forum. It gives you a complete run down of all boates, clinicas, prives, and independents not only in SP, but several cities throughout Brazil.

Summary:

This is my first trip to SP and second to Brazil with a prior trip to Fortaleza 7 years ago. When I read about the boates in this forum, I was intrigued since I prefer the "bar" or "club" scene. I think another poster mentioned the "high" one can get in these environments from having beautiful women vying for your attention. I did enjoy myself, but can't really say that the cost was worth it since I didn't find my "Adriana Lima", or "Alessandra Ambrosio" types. The clinicas are much less expensive, but also less interactive prior to choosing a girl with the "higher end" clinicas having even less interaction having to choose from photos on a tablet.

I'm glad I only visited for 3 nights and can now check SP off my list of places I wanted to visit. I enjoyed my visit, but didn't find anything that's drawing my back quickly.

In the meantime, there's still more of the world to explore.[/QUOTE]Was in SP yesterday too; afternoon at Tangara, big deception: ugly girls excepting maybe a mulatta who did'nt seem to be motivated. Left it. Sorry ABG, each one's taste!

At 8 pm Scandallo, short dinner (not really good!) already many chicks but the real happening is at 10 pm when the grand salon opens with band playing. Probably 150 girls, all beautiful in their style. I don't like big siliconized bundas and breasts but everyone, really, can find his gem. AFter a caipirinha a nice girl, beautiful face and eyes, good body, simply dressed in a black robe, approched me. Extremely sympathetic, that's also what I am looking for. Others may be more sexy but not nice. She as the prototype of the "girl next door". Was reluctant to do sucking without but, as a medical scientist, I convinced her (but not CIM). In the room, sex was just normal but she was extremely GFE, although I am 40 years older and not Apollon! I think she liked it as I did and we went for 40 min oral sex both ways. She was indeed exactly what I hoped to find and this is THE advantage of Scandallo: all types are present; tired from jetlag I left at 11 h30 pm but in the meantime probably more girls had arrived. Now I agree that the price is a problem: 600 Reals + room 200 + entrance 220. Yes I know, but I had one of my best experiences in my life since I don't look for PSE. The price difference with clinicas is justified by the fact that, honestly, there is a world between the beauty of the girls. Now ABG would say sex is not better: right! However I am looking for a whole thing, not just fucking.

[QUOTE=Bijou;2022013]SP Trip Report.

I had been wanting to go to SP for several years, but things always fell through. This time everything fell into place and I was able to arrange for a 3 night visit to SP. I stayed in an AirBNB apartment in Jardin-Paulista area because I was more interested in the Boates rather than the clinicas which would have been more readily accessible from the Moema area. I arrived on an overnight flight and took the Airport Shuttle to Congonhas Airport for about 48 are. From there I took a taxi to an AirBNB private room so I could sleep for a few hours before I checked into the actual AirBNB where I would stay. (I had to do this because early check in wasn't available and after traveling 9+ hours, I wanted to rest up before heading out for the night). Except for this taxi ride, the rest of the time I used Uber which was easy and inexpensive compared to the taxis, including taking back to the airport for my return trip home. My first Uber driver was English speaking and so I hired him as a private driver on an hourly basis for taking me around one day. (If anyone wants his contact info, PM me). I met up with Rovnak who is an expat living in SP and another ISG member that had been in SP for 2 weeks (sorry don't know screen name). Rovnak is a good wealth information and I appreciated him guiding me on my first trip to SP.

Wednesday Night..[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report about scandalo, all your information is useful.

I ve been to SP once and only been to Zeus, Casarao and Bomboa, I had good experience in Casarao, I picked a skinny caucasian of german descent for 500 reais all night, zeus is another boate with freelancers but the entrance is more expensive than casarao It is 120 reais with consumption in zeus and bomboa is very interesting but it is very expensive we have to pay to take the girl out I did not pick any girl there just picked one number but did not call the girl because of my departure but it is good to visit this club with your buddies and have good time. I am more into boates with freelancers.

What is the fee to take the girl out in scandalo? Do you have to pay the house to take the girl out? I also love curvy women if they have natural legs and ass I don't like silicon ass. Do the girls are aggressive? Is it easy to negotiate the price if you are good at portuguese?

Fortunately I speak portuguese it is easier to negotiate with the girls.

If anyone knows a list of clubs with freelancers where you don't pay any fee to take the girl out like Zeus and Casarao it would be nice of you to share.

I plan to go to SP for a second time in May.

[QUOTE=Bijou;2022013]I had been wanting to go to SP for severis my first trip to SP and second to Brazil with a prior trip to Fortaleza 7 years ago. When I read about the boates in this forum, I was intrigued since I prefer the "bar" or "club" scene. I think another poster mentioned the "high" one can get in these environments from having beautiful women vying for your attention. I did enjoy myself, but can't really say that the cost was worth it since I didn't find my "Adriana Lima", or "Alessandra Ambrosio" types. The clinicas are much less expensive, but also less interactive prior to choosing a girl with the "higher end" clinicas having even less interaction having to choose from photos on a tablet.[/QUOTE]Interesting that you reference Adriana Lima and Alessandra Ambrosio. I think it is difficult to find tall, slender, model quality Brasileiras doing programs in Brasil. While you obviously don't mean these two exactly and obviously Brasilian women of this type do exist, I rarely, if ever, have seen women of this nature on my many Brazilian expeditions doing programs. I'm guessing you have to have affluent local contacts who are regular clients of some upscale, discreet services.

Even fair-haired, fair complected Brasilian girls seem to have very curvy figures. One of the hottest girls, if not the hottest, I have ever hooked up with was a girl working at Barbarella in 2004. She saved me the bar fee by meeting me the next day, but she still charged me US $125 for two hours. Given the weak Reais and the fact you could get other hot girls for US $50-75 of which many would stay overnight, that was relatively a lot of money locally at that time. She said she only agreed to meet with me later for that price because she said I was funny and cute. Believe it or not, I think she was getting more for her time and she wasn't all that concerned about getting booked. This Brasilian woman looked like a brunette Italian model with a look and body straight out of Penthouse magazine. My crew said I would never get another chance to fuck a very amicable Penthouse type model in my apartment for $125. Even though she was relatively slim from her waist up, she still had that Brasilian pop her in ass which was fine for my tastes. She provided relatively passionate GFE sex and DFK if you can overlook something like oral with condom. Having said that, I don't think physically she would meet your qualifications.

Some say that the girls in the South of Brasil are taller and slimmer, but even the ones I have met working in Rio and SP have accentuated curves. Perhaps you should visit Porto Alegre and Florianopolis to find out.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2022102]Interesting that you reference Adriana Lima and Alessandra Ambrosio. I think it is difficult to find tall, slender, model quality Brasileiras doing programs in Brasil. While you obviously don't mean these two exactly and obviously Brasilian women of this type do exist, I rarely, if ever, have seen women of this nature on my many Brazilian expeditions doing programs. I'm guessing you have to have affluent local contacts who are regular clients of some upscale, discreet services.
[/QUOTE]Actually I was joking by putting those model names out there, but they certainly have the body type I like. I agree with you-- access to those types will require contacts and probably some time to cultivate something, not only in Brazil. Those model types in the "9+" range most likely aren't going to working in a bar, club, or clinica anywhere in the world, but rather can only be accessed through discreet contacts. Most often on my trips I look for the GNDs in the "7" range at the venues. And I say that fully understanding that "beauty is in the eye of beholder" and many guys wouldn't even consider those types to be attractive.

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2022067]Was in SP yesterday too; afternoon at Tangara, big deception: ugly girls excepting maybe a mulatta who didn't seem to be motivated. Left it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for keeping it real and giving the full picture. I saw some tutes so fat at Tangara and Vani's Way that you had to question why they were selling ass (and a lot of it LOL) for a living. One can go to the clinicas and pay less to fuck overall less attractive girls. Or, one can choose Scandallo, Bomboa and other options such as escorts to fuck much more attractive girls at higher prices. Now, somebody always chimes in yeah but some of the same girls who work at the clinicas in the daytime go work at the boites at night. I'm sure you can find a sprinkling of those types here and there, but as a general rule you don't have this big shift of the daytime clinica workers going over to the boites at night and charging more money for the exact same pussy!

Let's think about that. We're all rational beings. Well most of us anyway! So, if we knew we could routinely get the exact same pussy for a third the price just by tapping it in the daytime at a clinica versus at nighttime at a boite, then why the hell ever go to a Scandallo or Bomboa or pay some high-priced hooker? No rational buyer would do that, and the boites would be fast out of business. The truth is that they are two very distinct segments of the pussy market, and there is not nearly enough movement of talent between the two to be able to say, as a general rule, you're going to have access to the same talent pool in both the clinicas and the nightclubs. If that were true, the clinicas would put the boites out of business! The reason they don't now is because there are plenty of guys like me, Gannaton48, and obviously tons of others who are willing to pay a premium every now and then to have sexual access to very, very attractive girls. As the man said, we want the "whole thing". A good fuck with good looks!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2022115]The truth is that they are two very distinct segments of the pussy market, and there is not nearly enough movement of talent between the two to be able to say, as a general rule, you're going to have access to the same talent pool in both the clinicas and the nightclubs. If that were true, the clinicas would put the boites out of business! The reason they don't now is because there are plenty of guys like me, Gannaton48, and obviously tons of others who are willing to pay a premium every now and then to have sexual access to very, very attractive girls. As the man said, we want the "whole thing". A good fuck with good looks![/QUOTE]Agree with most of what you write but not all of it. I don't think it is a question of clinica = lower standard of physical beauty and boate = higher standard, which is sort of how your phrasing might be interpreted by someone who has not visited. Its really that clinica = daytime girls and boate = night time girls. For all sorts of reasons, personal schedule, contacts, economic goals, girls tend to prefer one or the other of these options. Now there are a lot of average lookers at both day and night joints. There are a few real good lookers, statistically speaking, at all places. The significant difference imo is that the successful boates (Scandalo, Bomboa, Casarao.) provide a larger selection in one location, so that statistically speaking there will generally be a few more "tops" in the club. For me it's rare to see 2 out of 10 that I would do even for free at any location. In a daytime lineup of 10 girls that is 2. In a club with 100 GPS, that is 20. So the choice is far larger even if the ratio is the same.

Now, on the "crossover" theory about same girls working both higher and lower cost venues. IMO this is most common with night GPS crossing over to other night spots, not daytime girls deciding to work at night after working all day at the clinica. You will find a lot of the former, and almost none of the latter. I personally know some (not a lot) GPS that move back and forth be / t Bomboa and Casarao, or Scandalo and Casarao, and adjusting their fees up and down for the venue. Scandalo up, Casarao down.

Those quibbles aside, I agree with your larger point which is that occasionally paying a premium for the "whole thing" is totally reasonable.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2022093]Thanks for your report about scandalo, all your information is useful.

I ve been to SP once and only been to Zeus, Casarao and Bomboa, I had good experience in Casarao, I picked a skinny caucasian of german descent for 500 reais all night, zeus is another boate with freelancers but the entrance is more expensive than casarao It is 120 reais with consumption in zeus and bomboa is very interesting but it is very expensive we have to pay to take the girl out I did not pick any girl there just picked one number but did not call the girl because of my departure but it is good to visit this club with your buddies and have good time. I am more into boates with freelancers.

What is the fee to take the girl out in scandalo? Do you have to pay the house to take the girl out? I also love curvy women if they have natural legs and ass I don't like silicon ass. Do the girls are aggressive? Is it easy to negotiate the price if you are good at portuguese?

Fortunately I speak portuguese it is easier to negotiate with the girls.

If anyone knows a list of clubs with freelancers where you don't pay any fee to take the girl out like Zeus and Casarao it would be nice of you to share.

I plan to go to SP for a second time in May.[/QUOTE]Most of the boates charge a fee to take the girl out. You suggest that Zeus and Casarao do not charge a "saida" (exit fee)? I know that Casarao certainly does, its 100 reais. And Zeus used to charge, maybe they changed their policy, but they used to charge a fee.

I think that Cafe Photo is the only one that does not charge a girl exit fee.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2022382]I agree with your larger point which is that occasionally paying a premium for the "whole thing" is totally reasonable.[/QUOTE]Which for me would mean looking forward to the nights since I saw very few women I wanted to fuck at the clinicas, let alone pay a premium for them. Was very disappointing as I expected more.

I am not biased towards either of the venues, however, The Palms was my top pick in terms of quality and service. Very few know about this place. It is a massage parlour and FS can be had for an additional 150 are. Facilities are top notch compared to clinicas.

I am a sucker for Scandallos but didn't indulge on either of the nights I was there. Now that I know the scene, it will be first preference next time around.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2022676]Which for me would mean looking forward to the nights since I saw very few women I wanted to fuck at the clinicas, let alone pay a premium for them. Was very disappointing as I expected more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2022676]Which for me would mean looking forward to the nights since I saw very few women I wanted to fuck at the clinicas, let alone pay a premium for them. Was very disappointing as I expected more.[/QUOTE]Nothing can duplicate both the anticipation and exhilaration of visiting the boates and seeing dozens of extraordinary females all on offer. There is nothing like it especially for us North Americans who can't experience anything like this at home. I feel like I'm walking into one of Miami's hottest clubs and almost every woman is friendly and willing to go home with me. That's why I prefer it to the FKK clubs, SE Asia, etc. I like the various Brazilian beauty and shapes. Heavy on Latin looks and curves with an array of ethnic diversity.

Clinicas can be a nice afternoon diversion if you don't feel the need to do a program. If you happen to find a girl you desire, you feel like you hit the jackpot. The clinica girls are generally more service oriented and at clinica prices throwing in a little incentive isn't such a big deal. Clinicas aren't great if you have limited time and you absolutely want to score a hottie.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2022115]Thanks for keeping it real and giving the full picture. I saw some tutes so fat at Tangara and Vani's Way that you had to question why they were selling ass (and a lot of it LOL) for a living. One can go to the clinicas and pay less to fuck overall less attractive girls. Or, one can choose Scandallo, Bomboa and other options such as escorts to fuck much more attractive girls at higher prices. Now, somebody always chimes in yeah but some of the same girls who work at the clinicas in the daytime go work at the boites at night. I'm sure you can find a sprinkling of those types here and there, but as a general rule you don't have this big shift of the daytime clinica workers going over to the boites at night and charging more money for the exact same pussy!

Let's think about that. We're all rational beings. Well most of us anyway! So, if we knew we could routinely get the exact same pussy for a third the price just by tapping it in the daytime at a clinica versus at nighttime at a boite, then why the hell ever go to a Scandallo or Bomboa or pay some high-priced hooker? No rational buyer would do that, and the boites would be fast out of business. The truth is that they are two very distinct segments of the pussy market, and there is not nearly enough movement of talent between the two to be able to say, as a general rule, you're going to have access to the same talent pool in both the clinicas and the nightclubs. If that were true, the clinicas would put the boites out of business! The reason they don't now is because there are plenty of guys like me, Gannaton48, and obviously tons of others who are willing to pay a premium every now and then to have sexual access to very, very attractive girls. As the man said, we want the "whole thing". A good fuck with good looks![/QUOTE]First let me reitterate that each opf us has different tastes and that's lucky, otherwise 90% of the girls would'nt find somebody to fuck them! It is clear that waling through SP streets will show you extremely few (if any) girl like the ones that fill Scnaddalo by 10 pm (unfortunately.)/ As this was the 1st time I went to Tangara (only my 2nd trip to SP, I am european), I would for sure not definitely conclude about the quality there (by quality here I mean looks, not sex). But still, when you get greated by about 15 girls and none is fuckable, it gives you I think at least an idea of the mean quality, evne if on this precise day I may have been very unlucky. The only thing I can say is that the (again, on that day) the ugliest gilr in Scnadallo would have been by very very far the most beautiful at Tangara. This can' t be a hasard. And I agree that of course by far not all Scandallo girls would have been my taste, but so much better than at Tangara.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2022918]Clinicas can be a nice afternoon diversion if you don't feel the need to do a program. If you happen to find a girl you desire, you feel like you hit the jackpot. Clinicas aren't great if you have limited time and you absolutely want to score a hottie.[/QUOTE]I agree with this 100%. They are definitely worth checking out if you have the time. You might find an absolute jewel of a provider like I did at Miruna (7 on looks and 9 on service versus 10 because she did not do CIM but did all else). But for me, my absolute favorite places to monger are the termas of Rio and the FKKs of Germany. I have Sao Paulo at number 3 on my list right now.

Found two gems at Tangara. One of the best menage a trois (threesome) DFL, BBBJTC, ; excellent girls know how to receive and give pleasure. IMO the two are slim and nice looking.

ABG.

Bros,

My first in SP. 200 for 60 minutes day before.

Just one confirmation. The price for 60 minutes is 1 shoot or two?

We were done in 20 minutes with first and after 10 minutes 1 was ready for 2nd round and she did not do anything. Is that how it works?

[QUOTE=Xkalibur80;2011106]Was at Brooklin today and the price is 170 for 30 min and 200 for an hour. Haven't had a chance to visit the other places yet.

This is my first time in SP and has been a blast thus far. Others have already mentioned but Scandallo is at another level. I felt like I died and ended up in heaven. Over 200 girls and from all over Brazil! Most 7+ but as the night progressed, the place started filling with lower quality. Nevertheless, if you have the money to splurge to lay a top notch Brazilian chick, this place is highly recommended.

I will be writing a more detailed report later. We are off to Bamboa tonight with our wingman Rovnak.[/QUOTE]

Hello guys, it's my first time mongering in SP, I've read lot's of pages here in the forum, but still don't know the best option for me. I like the asian style MP in where you go for a massage and end up with a he, HJ or BJ, tipped or not. Is there any suggestion for me here?

Thanks.

Mgp23.

[QUOTE=Mgp23;2025217]Hello guys, it's my first time mongering in SP, I've read lot's of pages here in the forum, but still don't know the best option for me. I like the asian style MP in where you go for a massage and end up with a he, HJ or BJ, tipped or not. Is there any suggestion for me here?

Thanks.

Mgp23.[/QUOTE]Hmm, that is rarely discussed here be / see most guys are looking for full service. What you want is called "Massagem therapeutic com finalization manual" or "punheta" (hand job) . OR massage tantrica" (tantric massage).

I assume you know the difference be / t therapeutic and tantric massage? Either of them can be complemented with happy ending "manual". The problem for you is that you can get a hand job at any of the clinicas listed here But the massage skill and hand job skill of the girls that usually do full service is a dice roll. There are places and girls that only do the massage and hand job but I don't go to them so I cannot advise. But you can search for those terms in google and take your chances. For example here is a link to a free lancer site that allows you to filter on various massage criteria. I am here filtering for "tantrica" [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/massagem-tantrica[/URL].

And here is a massage specific portal [URL]http://www.portaldasmassagistassp.com.br/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Mgp23;2025217]Hello guys, it's my first time mongering in SP, I've read lot's of pages here in the forum, but still don't know the best option for me. I like the asian style MP in where you go for a massage and end up with a he, HJ or BJ, tipped or not. Is there any suggestion for me here?

Thanks.

Mgp23.[/QUOTE]This one looks particularly suited to your needs [URL]http://www.portaldasmassagistassp.com.br/kamadeva-massagista-tantrica-jardins.html[/URL].

I am an odd one I. E. I can't do two rounds with the same girl. Just a personal thing. The other issue that I run into is finishing within an hour. Have serious ADD!

[QUOTE=Kiran1411;2024999]Bros,

My first in SP. 200 for 60 minutes day before.

Just one confirmation. The price for 60 minutes is 1 shoot or two?

We were done in 20 minutes with first and after 10 minutes 1 was ready for 2nd round and she did not do anything. Is that how it works?[/QUOTE]

Thanks Xkalibur for response. Given the great bundas around, I am a bit more hornier these days.

ABG responded to an I'm too that two shoots could be done if negotiated before act.

Would the second shoot be at extra cost?

But my zero Portuguese speaking skills, not sure of negotiation anyway. Just want to check.

[QUOTE=Xkalibur80;2025287]I am an odd one I. E. I can't do two rounds with the same girl. Just a personal thing. The other issue that I run into is finishing within an hour. Have serious ADD![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2025249]This one looks particularly suited to your needs [URL]http://www.portaldasmassagistassp.com.br/kamadeva-massagista-tantrica-jardins.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks! They are private providers, but should be what I'm looking for.

Anyone has reviews for the Palms? Massage rate is 270, but I don't know what is covered. Once, passing by, I saw a girl leaving the place. A real stunner.

[QUOTE=Mgp23;2025649]Thanks! They are private providers, but should be what I'm looking for.

Anyone has reviews for the Palms? Massage rate is 270, but I don't know what is covered. Once, passing by, I saw a girl leaving the place. A real stunner.[/QUOTE]The 270 is to the house. The girl works on tips, typically 250 for FS. Clearly you could pay her the same and ask for less service, but I don't know what you would get for no tip other than a massage from a pretty unhappy woman.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2025654]The 270 is to the house. The girl works on tips, typically 250 for FS. Clearly you could pay her the same and ask for less service, but I don't know what you would get for no tip other than a massage from a pretty unhappy woman.[/QUOTE]Makes sense. Thanks for the tips.

Kiran,

I have never done an hour where 2 pops wasn't expected or delivered. Unless there wasn't enough time left. Never negotiated beforehand.

Onto a previous discussion.

If you are looking for top "Scandello" type girls you can go to arboreo or something like that which is right next to Enjoy. Every girl there would be a top 10% girl at Scandello from my experience (been there twice). 260 or 280 for the hour. Only about 5-7 girls there.

Top 10% is what we should be discussing because the other 90% can be found at the other clinics. Enjoy has some top 20%.

On my trips to SP I have found that Tangara is easily the best value in the area.

Personally I always prefer Tangara for the atmosphere, my favorite girls and almost always great service.

[QUOTE=DoMat;2026969]Kiran,


If you are looking for top "Scandello" type girls you can go to arboreo or something like that which is right next to Enjoy. Every girl there would be a top 10% girl at Scandello from my experience (been there twice). 260 or 280 for the hour. Only about 5-7 girls there..[/QUOTE]I think you mean Abobora. Right near Mirunas. I wouldn't say they have sure thing top 10% eye candy. I live in the neighborhood and know all these places. If you are not demanding you can find good pussy in any of them. If you are looking for something to match your particular taste in beauty you have to visit a bunch of places.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2027123]I think you mean Abobora. Right near Mirunas. I wouldn't say they have sure thing top 10% eye candy. I live in the neighborhood and know all these places. If you are not demanding you can find good pussy in any of them. If you are looking for something to match your particular taste in beauty you have to visit a bunch of places.[/QUOTE]I have only been to Abobora twice and each time the lineup was extremely good in the looks department. Much higher then the other clinicas I have been to. I saw that level once in my 3 trips to Enjoy but didn't see it anywhere else.

We are talking glamour models vs girls that would turn your head at the mall difference.

I personally prefer the latter.

[QUOTE=DoMat;2027326]I have only been to Abobora twice and each time the lineup was extremely good in the looks department. Much higher then the other clinicas I have been to. I saw that level once in my 3 trips to Enjoy but didn't see it anywhere else.

We are talking glamour models vs girls that would turn your head at the mall difference.

I personally prefer the latter.[/QUOTE]I understand that you are talking about "looks". There are several clinicas which purport to have more "model" types. Abobora, Palms, Lotus, Oro, FranceBel etc. The latter 3 do not have live lineups, you have choose from a book. The girls look great in the book but not all will look as good in real life. Abobora has a book, but also live lineup. You can generally see the girl live is not as glamorous as she is in the book. Time permitting visitors should experiment a bit with each level.

Thanks guys! Appreciate the feedback.

I am now in Rio. But loved my time in SP. Unfortunately given the on and off rains, couldn't venture out to Enjoy or Tangara. But I couldn't complain about Brooklin.

3 trips to Brooklin and 3 completely different types of chicks ( MILF and girl-next-door). So satisfaction level was high. Only thing I was in doubt was round 2, which none of the 3 gave.

My next trip in a couple months, would look at Tangara (based on what you guys say, it seems girls would be better than Brooklin. Which would be amazing as I didn't have much to complain at Brooklin too. Maybe I had low expectations).

Kiran.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2027479]I understand that you are talking about "looks". There are several clinicas which purport to have more "model" types. Abobora, Palms, Lotus, Oro, FranceBel etc. The latter 3 do not have live lineups, you have choose from a book. The girls look great in the book but not all will look as good in real life. Abobora has a book, but also live lineup. You can generally see the girl live is not as glamorous as she is in the book. Time permitting visitors should experiment a bit with each level.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2025246].

I assume you know the difference be / t therapeutic and tantric massage? E[ / URL].

Doesn't tantric just mean they stick a finger up your butt?

Good evening gentlemen, how are you? This is my first post, I hope I don't make any mistake.

Thanks to my work I can travel a lot, and I guess I will travel even more. I have the chance to visit many countries in the Americas (so far) at least twice a year. So, work and pleasure can perfectly mix. I speak fluently four languages and my Portuguese has now Paulista sotaque (accent) which allows me to have very long conversations with local girls.

As a pro photographer and producer I have the chance to meet many cute girls and also VIP escorts, and what I enjoy doing during all the negotiation progress is to propose private photoshoot and videos with the girls, many say yes, others ask for more are $ depending on what I want them to perform (18+, signed contracts). So good sex is part of the casting process. A girl who fucks well, will also perform well in front of cameras.

And why do I say I am a sex gourmet? Because I like to taste girls. Not only a quick fuck. I love dinner, terraces, wine and four hands on my balls.

So, here a few photos of Sao Paulo (and before Sao Paulo), one of the cities I love in Brazil (Brasil actually).

Obrigado pela ateno queridos, enjoy life and its tricks.

P.S. Now detailed explanation of attached pictures.

01. Jpg: A popular celebration back in 2002, my first trip crossing the entire country, even Before Lula became president.

02. Jpg: Traveling by bus inside Brasil.

03. Jpg: My hotel room in Sao Paulo (chics friendly most of them).

04. Jpg: The view from my room.

05. Jpg: A girl we will name Dan at the beginning of the video and photo shoot.

06. Jpg: Dan's perfect ass.

07. Jpg: Dan sleeping before the shoot and after a lovely sex night.

08. Jpg: A girl we will call Naya (sitting, note her tattooed right leg).

09. Jpg: Naya posing for the video and photo shoot (see the tattoo).

10. Jpg: One of many Sao Paulo boates, bar, casas.

This is a sample the size of an atom.

Returning to So Paulo after long self imposed exile. Uber did not exist last time I was in Brazil. Seems that only way for me to use Uber app is to get Sim card at airport, then sign in to my Uber account. Not too tech oriented, so I welcome any guidance. Where do Uber drivers pick you up?

[QUOTE=PapaeNoel;2029368]Returning to So Paulo after long self imposed exile. Uber did not exist last time I was in Brazil. Seems that only way for me to use Uber app is to get Sim card at airport, then sign in to my Uber account. Not too tech oriented, so I welcome any guidance. Where do Uber drivers pick you up?[/QUOTE]You only need to get a different sim card if your current card does not provide (or it's too costly) international roaming data. With international roaming data you can use uber and whastapp on your current sim card. Again it may be cost prohibitive depending on your plan. But most of your time in SP you may be in wifi zones.

Glad for your reply. I actually plan to use [URL]airportbusservice.com.br[/URL] - at R$48 and convenient schedules it is definitely best choice for my trip. Staying in Centro, and only for 1 night. Previously used Diners Club van (and lounge), but stopped using that card, but it was useful as it dropped off at Maksoud Plaza hotel, near Av. Paulista.

I'm going to be in SP in a couple of weeks and me and my friend want to have some fun. We've heard about love story but want some advice on other places. Looking for cute girls with plenty of choice. Also good websites with genuine pics or other online resources. Anyone help?

Thanks.

You don't need to look too far than the first few pages of this forum. Just look at the recent reports and your answers are there.

[QUOTE=NoiseBoyPhil;2030504]I'm going to be in SP in a couple of weeks and me and my friend want to have some fun. We've heard about love story but want some advice on other places. Looking for cute girls with plenty of choice. Also good websites with genuine pics or other online resources. Anyone help?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoiseBoyPhil;2030504]I'm going to be in SP in a couple of weeks and me and my friend want to have some fun. We've heard about love story but want some advice on other places. Looking for cute girls with plenty of choice. Also good websites with genuine pics or other online resources. Anyone help?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It really depends on what your definition for fun is.

[QUOTE=NoiseBoyPhil;2030504]I'm going to be in SP in a couple of weeks and me and my friend want to have some fun. We've heard about love story but want some advice on other places. Looking for cute girls with plenty of choice. Also good websites with genuine pics or other online resources. Anyone help?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]IIt depends on your taste. I like the afternoon play, Tamgara is one of the best places.

This week there were 47 girls in the house. Girls for all tastes.

Place don't sell booze but you can get beer from a bar right across the street or bring your own booze. No charge on it. You can seat and relax with the girl.

Yesterday I went with Denise, a red hair caucasuan girl, gaucha, seems a british skool girl, fluent in english, has studied in London, gorgeous girl, nice teen face, lovely big natural brests, nice butt, very GFE.

DFK, BBBJ, CWG, very good performace, likes to receive DATY, and CIM.

Place is under restauration, some rooms are not avaliable. 150 reais = 1 hour, 2 pops, gave her a tip of 50 reais for the BBBJ / CIM.

Tangara is open from 10 am till 10 pm. Mon. Till Sat. Sunday from noon till 8 pm.

If you want to continue your fun go to Casaro, 20 reais, room 30 reais for 1/2 h. Girl has to be negociated, normally 300 reias for 1/2 hour. Open from 11 pm till 4 am.Much better girls selection than LS.

For more details please PM me.

ABG.

Can anyone give me the address of Clinica Miruna? Somehow the internet is dark on this.

[QUOTE=CuttySark;2032199]Can anyone give me the address of Clinica Miruna? Somehow the internet is dark on this.[/QUOTE]You must have a bad Google, LOL.

Popped right up on a search.

Hello,

I'm in need of some helpful guidance. I've been to Rio de Janeiro last year twice and was wondering if anyone can give some good pointers on São Paulo. I'm thinking to go back to Brazil in the next month or 2 and was wondering how would you compare both cities. Rio vs sao. I loved Rio as we could go to barra to party at night and then go to the strip clubs after to find our girls to take home for the night. Rio has an amazing regular party scene that we like which makes the mongering more fun for us. Instead of just straight brothels. We like our day spas as well in the daytime for quick action.

Was wondering do I just go to São Paulo only only split it up for half and half or Rio only.

Any suggestions would really help. And how are price comparisons with the two different cities and attitudes.

Hello,

I'm looking for some good help and would definitely appreciate any response I can get. I been to rio twice last year. And looking to do my third sometime in the next 2 months. But I'm wondering if I should try São Paulo. I have about a week. How would you guys compare the two. It's usually just me and my friend who are on the same page as far as what we like to do. We like good prices in the daytime at day spas. And at night we like to actually go to big nightclubs and party with the locals then go to strip clubs and find the women we like to take to our hotel. Rio offers the nightlife in barra. But is average for strip Club's late night only maybe 2 to 3 clubs to choose from like Casablanca Kalibria or Barbarella.

We don't feel the necessity to pay a lot for day sessions but at nighttime we understand it cost more to take a girl home. And plus we have had a good amount to drink so we are more flexible haha.

Comparison on the 2 cities.

Prices.

Attitudes.

Atmosphere as Rio is very vacation like.

Quality.

More options of girls and strip clubs.

Thanks so much!

[QUOTE=Johnson163;2033067]Hello,

I'm looking for some good help and would definitely appreciate any response I can get. I been to rio twice last year. And looking to do my third sometime in the next 2 months. But I'm wondering if I should try So Paulo. I have about a week. How would you guys compare the two. It's usually just me and my friend who are on the same page as far as what we like to do. We like good prices in the daytime at day spas. And at night we like to actually go to big nightclubs and party with the locals then go to strip clubs and find the women we like to take to our hotel. Rio offers the nightlife in barra. But is average for strip Club's late night only maybe 2 to 3 clubs to choose from like Casablanca Kalibria or Barbarella.

We don't feel the necessity to pay a lot for day sessions but at nighttime we understand it cost more to take a girl home. And plus we have had a good amount to drink so we are more flexible haha.

Comparison on the 2 cities.

Prices.

Attitudes.

Atmosphere as Rio is very vacation like.

Quality.

More options of girls and strip clubs.

Thanks so much![/QUOTE]Hi Johnson,

How was Bogotá?

[QUOTE=Johnson163;2033055]Hello,

I'm in need of some helpful guidance. I've been to Rio de Janeiro last year twice and was wondering if anyone can give some good pointers on So Paulo. I'm thinking to go back to Brazil in the next month or 2 and was wondering how would you compare both cities. Rio vs sao. I loved Rio as we could go to barra to party at night and then go to the strip clubs after to find our girls to take home for the night. Rio has an amazing regular party scene that we like which makes the mongering more fun for us. Instead of just straight brothels. We like our day spas as well in the daytime for quick action.

Was wondering do I just go to So Paulo only only split it up for half and half or Rio only.

Any suggestions would really help. And how are price comparisons with the two different cities and attitudes.[/QUOTE]I do not want to sound rude, but have you not read many pages here? There were extensive threads comparing SP and Rio just within the last few months. Very extensive.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2033191]Hi Johnson,

How was Bogot?[/QUOTE]Bogota was a lot of fun but really only meant for true mongers. As I like to party and monger which makes my trips more fun. The only downside to Bogota is that is very big city like and that plays a factor to the women as they are too much into getting as much money as possible. They are hustlers. I don't blame them but kind of ruins the experience for me personally. When I was in Rio the prices were straightforward and no games later trying to hustle more out of me. In Bogota, they go hard and very high first which makes you negotiate too much which again ruins my mood. Rio did a great job in giving GFE experiences. Price was negotiated fast and never had to talk about it again. Plus Bogota is a cold and rainy place and didn't have those big fun nightclubs that I liked. Doesn't really have that vacation vibe going on as Rio did. When I'm talking about these scenarios I'm talking about strip clubs at night. Now day spas Bogota is way better a lot more variety and prices are straightforward. Bogota also has way more options in strip blind and spas then Rio with a ton of women to choose from. Bogota is for people straight on a mission.

Again depends on you your style of fun.

[QUOTE=NoiseBoyPhil;2030504]I'm going to be in SP in a couple of weeks and me and my friend want to have some fun. We've heard about love story but want some advice on other places. Looking for cute girls with plenty of choice. Also good websites with genuine pics or other online resources. Anyone help?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The response to "quick advice" requests about the city is generally read the thread. It's all here if you read the last few months. As far as good websites, typically only escorts (acompanhantes) post photos and not all post their face. Beware of fake photos or extensive photoshopping. You typically won't find photos of girls at clinicas or nightclubs (boates). You have to go see the women for yourself.

If you search my name here on ISG, I have made several posts about SP escorts. How to find attractive women who will provide what you want and communicate with them. Once you find some escorts you are interested in, look them up on Twitter. Amazingly, many Sao Paulo escorts are promoting themselves with candid and racy photos / videos on Twitter.

This by no means is a recommendation of escorts over nightclubs and clinicas. They all offer something different.

Spent a week in SP. Brooklin and Red are my favorite spots.

Trip report to follow. At Rio now, and already planning a return to SP in about 10 days (after Rio). Why go home with so much more fun here in Brazil!

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2034777]Spent a week in SP. Brooklin and Red are my favorite spots.

Trip report to follow. At Rio now, and already planning a return to SP in about 10 days (after Rio). Why go home with so much more fun here in Brazil![/QUOTE]Definitely looking forward to your trip report and your personal comparison of the 2 cities since it is very recent. Enjoy!

Kelly is her name, 19 yo, no kids, perfect body, nice small tits, M bunda, very GFE.

DFK, BBBJ, DATU and CIM.

Tangara will be open today from noon till 8 pm.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Johnson163;2035162]Definitely looking forward to your trip report and your personal comparison of the 2 cities since it is very recent. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Honestly, what more are you looking for. There are almost 20 pages of discussion about SP since January 2017. If you can't find what you want to know in those pages, then I seriously doubt you will ever find it. We discussed SP vs Rio for several pages at the end of January beginning of February. Go back to page 19 and begin reading forward to present. That is very recent information, nothing has changed since then except that new talent has come on the scene and some talent has gone, but the places and the structural advantages / disadvantages are exactly the same.

Sent you a PM. Please check your inbox and reply.

Hit Casarao last night, Monday.

I was expecting dead, and though it was kinda slow, not bad.

Spotted an absolute stunner, she was talking with a couple Brazillian dudes.

They left, however, and I was in, figuring she'd be stuck up though, because of her top beauty.

Wasn't the case.

She was an absolute sweetheart!

Went up to the room, looked nice, refurbished since I last visited.

The girl was incredible! Did not disappoint all. Could not have been more GFE!

Got the WhatsApp of course for hotel fun soon.

300 R to her, 80 for the room, one hour time, plus an xtra 10 min ignoring the buzzer, LOL.

She said 200 R for 30 min, 40 for the room.

I took the hour deal.

Great time!

Hello all of you,

I was last year in clinica Oro, I thought it was excellent, not cheap, but gorgeous women and they are all giving you GFE. Bom BOa was very quiet when I went, and I left early.

I like places with many GP choices. And plan to visit Casarao. Is that in Rua Augusta? What number? Or?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SuperBuilder2;2036471]Hello all of you,

I was last year in clinica Oro, I thought it was excellent, not cheap, but gorgeous women and they are all giving you GFE. Bom BOa was very quiet when I went, and I left early.

I like places with many GP choices. And plan to visit Casarao. Is that in Rua Augusta? What number? Or?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try to Google, Casarao American Bar or Casarao Sao Paulo or Casarao Rua Augusta.

It's that easy.

Hi Nordico,

Yes I know and I did of course and. I got all those and on images several different houses. Since Casarao means big house in Portuguese quite a lot popped up. That's why I asked. Is it in Rua Augusta?

Thanks.

A small cute white tattooed girl. Never saw her before but has been working there for two years. Quite popular, was busy the whole day. Had a change because one monger did not arrived. Pleasant experience, but short. Did not had possibility for longer time, she was booked until the she finished her working day. As always a warm welcome from receptionists.

A good week in SP (2 weeks ago). The place is growing on me. Found a nice Airbnb, 15 min from CGH. Nice restaurants and cold beer everywhere.

D1 went to Clinica Brooklin, no luck. Over crowded and nothing that I had to have. I got a month, so I can be picky.
Went to my favorite spot Red Massagem. Asked for Mariana, a great one from last year. Busy. Shit. So I found a 20-25 year old, nice bunda and tits, big smile, and bubbly personality.
R140 for 30 minutes. Great service.

D2 Brooklin again. Too slow to pull the trigger while drinking my beer. Plenty of girls and 2 that I liked. Finished my beer and as I started to walk to the counter to request the first girl (about an 8 in looks) and they called her name. Dammit. Asked for another beer and sat down to chill. Decided on the second girl. I had only caught a view from behind and it looked nice. I go to ask for her, they told me it will be an hour. I can speak decent Portuguese, and I said I just saw her 1 minute ago. She has a client now. I was like what! They hadn't even called her name. So I waited a few minutes to see. Yep. She came out with towels and some guy was waiting at the counter. I guess he must have called ahead and they somehow told her she had an appt.
Went to Red again. The girls start coming out and a favorite from last year walks out. She sees me, stops and puts her hands on her hips, and comes right over with a big smile. We talk for a minute, and then I see the rest of the line up (might as well since the girls were already lined up right there in the hallway. You can see them from seating area). Before I was late again, I told the Fabi the manager that I wanted Mariana. She smiled because she already knew. Took the hour for R190. GREAT service again. She is 25, birthday coming soon. Pretty lady, nice big tits, nice round ass, great BBBJ, multiple positions, etc. She even wanted a 2nd round since we still had some time, but I was tired. That type or girl is why I come to Brazil.

D3 Brooklin again, no luck (that place just isn't working for me on this trip. had 2 girls there last year, two days in a row).
Next stop was Enjoy. Only 3 doable.
Decided to walk to Mirunas, nothing I liked.
Walked to Abbobora (R260 for the hour). Don't really like this place because they come off as a higher class place. Plus they want money upfront and didn't offer me a half hour rate. I asked for Malu (saw her the other day while out looking), a very pretty 24 yr old morena with braces. Smoking hottt body and nice smile. 8. 5 rating on looks. While talking to her she asked if I wanted a half hour or an hour, I said 30 minutes because I was ready to get busy with her and I knew wouldn't last more than 30). We walk over to the counter and she tells the receptionist half hour. The lady looks at me and says we only have an hour. So why is Maul even asking me about the 30 min option??? I told her Malu just told me 30 minutes is ok. Now I'm thinking of ditching this place. But I want this pretty girl. She again says they only have 1 hour. OK lets get busy. I'm asked to pay and I'm ready to have fun. Then the receptionist hands Malu her share, which is R150, right on the spot. In the room, start with a good BBBJ. A few minutes into it she motioned for the condom, not yet, I want more. I had her continue 2 more times. After about 10 minutes I reach for the condom and she lays down on her back. I got the feeling she was being lazy and wanted to finish quick. I said no honey, you come on top first. WTF was she thinking. I told her with a big smile that I was paying her to do me. She bounces that sweet bunda up and down cowgirl and I'm about to lose it pretty soon. I ask her to turn around so I can see that butt reverse cowgirl. Great view. Switched to missionary, and as we are switching she tells me its her birthday and wants to know if I am going to give her something. I told her feliz aniversario, and said it was my birthday yesterday that's why I am here (it's not my birthday, but that is the perfect way to shut her up, right)? Nope, she asks again if I am going to give her something! LOL. I said yes I'm giving it to you now and started again. Missionary felt great. Since I was ready to pop, changed to doggie. Hit it hard and fast and lasted as long as I could. Then rested. She was ready to hit the shower and wanted me to shower too. I had to remind her that I paid a full hour, and we have more time. Had her give me a little massage. Then got up to shower and leave. Was is good to pound that pretty girl, yes. Repeat. Not a chance.
IMO, Abbobora isn't worth it. Too many other options around. You can 2 girls at other places for just R280, 20 reals more.

D4 Red Massagem. I called ahead to book a girl that I saw the other day. They said yes she is working today. I asked if she was available now, yes. OK, I will be there in 30 minutes. They agreed and took my name. I get there and they tell me she is not available. They explained that whoever was with her wanted to continue the session for another hour. Could be bullsh*t, and they just just let her go up without waiting for me to arrive. But who knows. Since I like the place, and the manager is really nice with me every time I visit, I decided to see the girls. To my surprise they had a bunch of new faces, about 15 or more girls. I liked three girls, 2 morenas, and 1 dirty blonde. I asked to see a few that were wearing a dark dress. The morenas came out all smiling. I apologized to the sweet looking ladies and said no there was another girl with a dark dress and lighter colored hair (mind you my porto skills are good but not perfect). They go back and call out a few more. Bingo, I see the one I like. And like a kid in a candy store, I got up and pointed at the girl in blue. She started smiling ear to ear, and I was too. The girl at the counter asked if I want half hour or an hour. I said I wasn't sure. If I finish in 30 min, I will pay for the half hour, if I finish in an hour I will pay the hour. Agreed. This girl has the most charming smile, my goodness. Felt like I finally hit the Jackpot! Turns out I did. It was her first day. I was thinking yeah sure it is. Maybe the first day going back to work, or the first day at THIS place. But it was her 1st time. How do I know? We go to the room and she doesn't have anything (no bag, no lube, etc). That's ok, I take my own condoms and that's all we need. I go to shower and she gets naked and gets in with me :D. Things are looking good! We get out and dry off, then she lays down on the black rubber type of mattress (with no sheet on it). She didn't put the sheet on the bed. I laughed. Put out my hand to help her get up. I grabbed the sheet from the plastic wrapper and she blushed. Man this was going to be good. I asked her again, is this your first time working in a place like this, Yes. I laid her down and we started kissing like high school kids making out.
BBBJ, then I had to eat her. She was really shy and trying to hold me back and closing her legs. I told her that I really wanted to taste her and I will make her feel good, she agrees. Then more BBBJ, followed by multiple positions. Total GFE. Worth the whole hour. The phone rang as we were in the shower. We just continued washing and enjoying our time in there. I took some photos of her and us, exchanged numbers, and we agreed to meet tomorrow at my apt. We never discussed money. But I did tell her that I will pay her taxi and give her something.

D5 Sent a text to my new GF. LOL. She replied. Agreed to come about 4 pm. Around 4 pm I get a text, she will be a little late, maybe 5 pm. For her no problem. If it was a different girl, I would consider telling them not to bother coming. Anyway, she finally shows up at 6 pm. Smiles all around. Offer her a drink. We kiss, drink, and talk, like a regular date. Then I decide to take her out. We went to a nearby bar/restaurant for some food and more drinks. Spent R100. Then back to the apt for more GFE. She ordered an Uber, I looked at her phone to check the rate. I gave some money to pay for the RT taxi fare. Then I gave her an extra R200. Told her it's for her so she go shopping. I plan on seeing her again this coming week.

D6 Slept in and went to eat and drink some beer. Decided to go see Chanes 57. The manager was cool, she spoke decent English explained the rates and times. I forget the exact prices. I believe it was R190 for an hour before 9 pm. But it's 50 reals more after 9 pm. I checked the time, it was only 8. 15 pm, so plenty of time to see what's available. Go up to the bar for a drink. R15 for beer. The bar upstairs was ok with girls hanging around (sort of a dive bar feel to it). There was only about 7 girls total, a few with customers. None as good as the massagems. Rate them 5-6.5 (the 5 was a big one sitting with a guy). I interviewed three girls, and since this was the last night in SP, decided to take the 6.5 with good vibes. She was great in the boite and got me hard. Back in the room she kinda tried to rush. Slowed her down and gave her a good pounding. Finished in about 50 minutes. Soon as I was done she was ready to go. No sweat. Go to pay and the cashier tries to charge me the extra 50 reals, the 9pm price. I said no we went up at about 8.50 and now it's only 9.45 pm. She isn't cooperating so I tell her to call the manager. The female manager comes and I tell her look at the time, it's not even 10 pm yet. She tells the cashier to give me the lower price. I smile and the cashier looks angry. As if I care. I pay only what I owe and leave. Oh I almost forgot, they also automatically charge you 10% service charge on the drinks. With all the other options just a 15 minute walk away I won't be back there.

All in all I like SP. It's less crowded and has a more laid back pace. That's why I'm going back next week :).

Continuation from Rio thread. . . Landed in the morning at cgh from gig. Flight was on time. Ubered to my hotel in moema. Not much traffic at 11 in the morning. Staying at hotel slaviero essential on ave. Rouxinol. Paid about $75 usd per night. Nice big room. Friendly staff, Very nice breakfast. Fast wifi and above all, girl friendly. Only 1 drawback. You can hear the noise of air planes quite frequently but it was quiet at night so it didn't bother me. Check in was a breeze. Quick shower, done phone calls back home and on to the real stuff -.

Palms. Palms massagem is about 5 min. Walking distance to the hotel. They showed me an iPad with 6 girls on it. Each girl had 2 pictures. Very easy decision. Agatha was the best looking one for me. Pictured looked too good. Prices were R270 for the casa which includes only massage. Receptionist wouldn't discuss the services. Told them that I want to talk to Agatha first before committing. They said ok. Took me to a nice big room upstairs with a big bed right in the middle. I sat down and agatha shows up about 10 minutes. Later. She kissed me Hello, on the lips. She looked about 90% close to her pictures. Beautiful face, teeth, hair etc. Nice white skin. No makeup. Very pretty and very sexy. I explained my preferences to her and she was ok with everything and asked for R250. I agreed. She put some music on and got down to business. Very GFE session. Kisses, very nice slow long BBBJ. Multiple positions and CIM to finish. She did everything I asked for. Took me a while to come but she didn't complain. Nice conversation followed sex. Showered together. And pictures before leaving. She told me she never allows pics but I'm an exception. Truth or not, who cares. Left very happy. Not cheap for R520 but worth it for me. I'll give her 8. 5 in looks and 9 in service. Best looking girl of this trip so far.

Took about 20 min. Walk to iberopuerra mall. Nice lunch at Pizza Hut. Never had a pizza with cream cheese on it. Only in Brazil. Wasn't bad either. Walked around the mall before walking back to my hotel. Was a bit tired from all the walking. Took a nice nap and was ready to hit Casarao.

Casarao. Rua Augusta. Got there around 10 pm. Entire street was packed with party goers, this being Saturday night. R30 entrance includes 3 beers. Got in around 10:30. Very few people. But it was slowly starting to fill up. Walked around and nobody to my liking in the first glance. Got a beer and found a corner to stand in. The place is a dance club with all working girls. Lots of girls with tattoos which I don't like. Lots of girls with big bundas I don't like either. After about an hour, I noticed one sitting close to me. She was my type. Started a conversation and met with a very friendly attitude. She was from rio grande de sul. Been Here only 3 days in São Paulo and her second night in Casarao. After about 20-30 minutes, I bought her a red bull and then she started slow grinding, kissing me. I really liked her company. The place got really packed around midnight. They had some shows here and there as well. After about a couple of hours, I asked her for all night in my hotel. She asked for R500 but quickly said R400 herself. I didn't want to negotiate money but services. She was all game for anything I wanted. Saida was R100. We left around 2 pm. Showered together in hotel, followed by amazing sex before going to bed. She was all touchy-feely throughout the night. Second long sweaty session in the morning before I asked her to go home around 9. She forcefully put her no. In my phone. Total GFE. 8 in looks age 9 in service. Great first day in São Paulo. 4 days left.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2038413]D3 Brooklin again, no luck (that place just isn't working for me on this trip. had 2 girls there last year, two days in a row[/QUOTE]They have this ridiculous (bad for us gringos) offer for posters of the local forums, 140 / hour and every fifth hour free or similar. It's been going on for months and I don't know how long. That's why there are so many guys and many of them make a reservation beforehand and the best girls are busy all the time.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2038444]They have this ridiculous (bad for us gringos) offer for posters of the local forums, 140 / hour and every fifth hour free or similar. It's been going on for months and I don't know how long. That's why there are so many guys and many of them make a reservation beforehand and the best girls are busy all the time.[/QUOTE]What is the link, which local forum? Where exactly is the offer?

Woke up today with a lot of rain forecasted throughout the day. I don't mind. Since it's a Sunday and not too many places will be open anyways. To my knowledge, 3 places, Miruna, tangara and Brooklin are open today. Ubered to Miruna first. Just realized São Paulo is colder than rio.

Miruna. Only 5 girls at around 4 pm. All 6 or below. Only 2 other guys. Didn't like anyone. Left in about 15 minutes. Ubered to Brooklin.

Brooklin. Many more girls. May be about 15. I kinda liked only one named zizi. Glasses. Long boots. Slim. Cute face. Took her. An ok session. Nothing special. May be 6-6. 5. Ubered to tangara.

Tangara. More than 15 girls. At least 10 guys waiting. I kinda liked 1 or 2 girls but had no energy or desire to session. If I hadn't sessioned at Brooklin, I would have done one here. I may find time to get back here but not until I have seen all the other clinicas.

Ubered to eat food and ubered back to hotel. Uber is great. I can take uber 20 times in my 5 days here and it won't cost me more than $100-$120. Still raining hard past 7 pm. And it's cold too. Want a quick rest before heading out. Other than Casarao, nothing is open according to my notes. Sundays are slow everywhere. I had a great time here last night so I won't mind going there again.

Casarao. Got here just after 11. Still raining outside. Pretty slow inside. Got a beer and hung around near the bar. Saw a cute white girl from Porto Alegre. She asked for R250 plus R40 for the room for 40 minutes. Upstairs. She also refused 2 of my top 3 requirements. Completely failed the interview. Not for me. I don't think so. It's still early. Had another beer and some time later, I saw another very pretty one with big natural tits from São Paulo. Talked to Camila and she was the one but she wouldn't budge from R250 to R200. Finally took her. Very nice in the room. Kept her busy for the entire 40 minutes. Came just after the buzzer went. Came back down and Porto Alegre girl was still there. Saw a lot of guys talking to her through out the night but no one took her. I was there until 3:30 talking to some girls, relaxing etc. It had slowed down considerably. A lot of people had left by now. Decided to call it a night. Still raining but lightly now. Ubered back to hotel.

Woke up late again. No more rain. Sun is out. Nice breakfast at the hotel. Got to clinica Abbobora around 1 pm.

Abbobora. Only 5 girls presented. Malu, Valentina, isa, taleta and 1 more. I was thinking about isa but when the receptionista showed me a tablet with pictures of all the girls, Isa had a lot of tattoos in pics so I changed my mind. She told me that all the girls do bejos, chupa sem camisinha and completas except taleta. Asked for 2nd presentation, taleta is the one I picked. From Minas Gerias. Paid R110 at the other reception around the corner and R150 to be paid directly to the girl when finished. In the room, taleta wanted chupa com camisinha but after my insistence and threat to talk to receptionist, she quickly relented and started deep BBBJ. Multiple position and I asked her to take the camisinha off so I can do CIM. She did exactly that and another 10 minutes. Of BBBJ before CIM. She didn't swallow but that's ok. Overall, decent session. I'd rate her and the session about 7.

Miruna was 2 min. Walk from there so I went to see the lineup. Few newer faces from yesterday but nothing special. I didn't want to session anyhow. Ave. Miruna goes straight to the mall. Walked to ibirapuerra mall in about 10 minutes. Spent a couple of hours there. Ate lunch and walked back to my hotel in about 20 minutes. For some rest and a short nap. It was about 4:30 now.

I'm doing good on massagems but I will now have to see 4 boîtes in 2 nights since I now have 2 days and 2 nights left. Plan is to go to bomboa first tonight, then go to cafe photo. Pull one from cafe photo since there is no saida there. Then tomorrow, visit Scandallos first and love story after. And, visit 4-5 massagems in the next 2 afternoons. That should cover my goal of visiting top 5 boîtes and 10 massagems in 5 days and 4 nights total. Let's see if these plans work out. They rarely do.

Bomboa. Ubered here around 8 pm. It was pretty far from my hotel. About 45 min. Drive. Lots of traffic going there. Very nice looking place. Looks more like a normal restaurant bar. Band was pretty good. The place had the feel of a high end place. Everyone was dressed up. I got there way early so there weren't too many people or girls there yet. One security guy spoke English so he explained to me. R250 entrance could be used for consumption. I sat down and took my time eating. Girls were very friendly. They kept coming and introducing themselves to me. I liked ketlyn from santa Catarina and carried on the conversation. Beautiful girl. Elegantly dressed in a short black dress. She quoted R600 plus the saida but I didn't want to commit. Didn't even ask the cost of saida or negotiated the price. Told her maybe. Lots of good looking girls. Fun to talk to them. I had a good time. Nice ambiance and a well needed change from Casarao. Wish it was like 100-150 entrance. R250 is not cheap. You got to spend well over R1000 for the night here to have a good time and session with a girl. It was starting to get even busier but I had plans to go to cafe photo. Stayed until around 11 pm before taking the uber to cafe photo.

Cafe photo. Not much traffic at this time. Got here just after 11. Was given 2 options at the entrance. R100 or R150 with R150 consumption. Took the latter option since I was planning on eating and drinking. Inside was pretty nice as well. A notch below bomboa but way above Casarao. This is more like a restaurant bar as well with lots of tables in the middle. Lots of waiters walking around. Place looked nice. High ceiling. Good decor. Upstairs was closed due to slow day being Monday. There was a 6 pc. Band playing though. Again, very friendly staff. Good service. Had a frango quarto quijos. Pretty good. Huge portion. No way I could finish that. Many many girls here. At least 70-80 when I arrived. All very very friendly. Most were a bit older. Like 25-30 years old. But a lot of white skinned blondes. Just what I like. Spoke with a few girls.

The best looking one IMHO was sitting with a guy on the table for the longest while. Eventually, she got up and on her way back from washroom, I pulled her aside and started talking to her. She was very pretty. Only 18. Skinny, tall, white, natural hazel eyes, small tits, beautiful face. Larissa From Bahia. 9 in my book. Very friendly and attentive to me. Kept looking right in my eyes throughout. Flirted with her, kissed her and felt her up. Bought her s drink. Spoke with her for 15 minutes. About how she models, likes expensive things and was wearing real diamond necklace with matching earrings and ring. Finally, asked her out. Was quoted R1000 for 2. 5 hrs. All included like bejos, BBBJ and very GFE session. She said most girls from there will not kiss or give BBBJ and that she will do everything. And, she said you get what you pay for and she's worth it. She may have been truthful but she asked for too much money. I tried to negotiate but got the feeling that she won't go down. Although I had a very good feeling about her service, R1000 is too much. I nicely sent her away and said that I'll think about it. No problem. Kissed and parted ways.

So now my top choice was gone, I started to concentrate on others. Few minutes later, I saw another one in normal clothes. Skinny, cute, wore white sweater and black pants. 23 year old Gabrielle from a city 2-3 hours from São Paulo. Economics student. Decent English. Bought her a drink. Very friendly as well. Passed my interview regarding services but asked for R600 for 1 HR. Negotiated to R500 for 1. 5 hrs. It was getting close to 2 am so we left shortly thereafter. No saida but my bill was R350 and they put R35 service charge on it. Didn't like that service charge but didn't want to argue. Paid R385. Short 10 min. Uber to my hotel. Great session. GFE. Did everything I asked. Lots of pillow talk after sex while My hands were all over her smooth skin and body. Sent her around 3:30. Watched some tv and went to bed around 4.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2039013]Cafe photo. Not much traffic at this time. Got here just after 11. Was given 2 options at the entrance. R100 or R150 with R150 consumption. Took the latter option since I was planning on eating and drinking. Inside was pretty nice as well. A notch below bomboa but way above Casarao. This is more like a restaurant bar as well with lots of tables in the middle. Lots of waiters walking around. Place looked nice. High ceiling. Good decor. Upstairs was closed due to slow day being Monday. There was a 6 pc. Band playing though. Again, very friendly staff. Good service. Had a frango quarto quijos. Pretty good. Huge portion. No way I could finish that. Many many girls here. At least 70-80 when I arrived. All very very friendly. Most were a bit older. Like 25-30 years old. But a lot of white skinned blondes. Just what I like. Spoke with a few girls.

The best looking one IMHO was sitting with a guy on the table for the longest while. Eventually, she got up and on her way back from washroom, I pulled her aside and started talking to her. She was very pretty. Only 18. Skinny, tall, white, natural hazel eyes, small tits, beautiful face. Larissa From Bahia. 9 in my book. Very friendly and attentive to me. Kept looking right in my eyes throughout. Flirted with her, kissed her and felt her up. Bought her s drink. Spoke with her for 15 minutes. About how she models, likes expensive things and was wearing real diamond necklace with matching earrings and ring. Finally, asked her out. Was quoted R1000 for 2. 5 hrs. All included like bejos, BBBJ and very GFE session. She said most girls from there will not kiss or give BBBJ and that she will do everything. And, she said you get what you pay for and she's worth it. She may have been truthful but she asked for too much money. I tried to negotiate but got the feeling that she won't go down. Although I had a very good feeling about her service, R1000 is too much. I nicely sent her away and said that I'll think about it..[/QUOTE]Good report, particularly, on Photo. There has not been much info on it lately. I am pleasantly surprised to hear there were more than 70 girls on a Monday night. Were there more girls at Photo than at Bomboa? As Monday is a slow night that bodes well for the normally busier nights. I have not gone there as I have a big list of regulars that I see for much less $ and incredible service. However, I am always curious about seeing new talent so I am tempted to visit Photo again soon. I am not sure what to make of the first girl saying that most of the girls there will not kiss of BBBJ. I think she was was just lying in order to make you think her service was above par or the girls at Photo. Kissing and BBBJ are considered minimum services by most GPS in Brazil and at Photo rates there should be no question. Why would anyone pay more for less service? Unless these girls are preying on the naivete of visitors and offering different levels of service to different customers, which is possible. Either way you did the right thing in rejecting her.

Overall, the net take away from your report is that Photo can actually be less expensive than Scandallo and Bomboa given that the entrance is less. There is no saida cost and you don't have to pay for a room if you can go to your own place, where the time may be extended. Of course both of them are ridiculously expensive compared to other options, but it's good to know the relative cost structure of these high end places.

So how were the girls dressed at Photo? Historically Photo girls dress in ways that conceal rather than reveal so many men have reported being disappointed when the clothing was removed.

Nice reports Sexmachine1, good job.

I will be waiting for Scandallo's news!

Where are the best places to change money in SP actually?

DC.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2039013]Woke up late again. No more rain. Sun is out. Nice breakfast at the hotel. Got to clinica Abbobora around 1 pm.

Abbobora. Only 5 girls presented. Malu, Valentina, isa, taleta and 1 more. I was thinking about isa but when the receptionista showed me a tablet with pictures of all the girls, Isa had a lot of tattoos in pics so I changed my mind. She told me that all the girls do bejos, chupa sem camisinha and completas except taleta. Asked for 2nd presentation, taleta is the one I picked. From Minas Gerias. Paid R110 at the other reception around the corner and R150 to be paid directly to the girl when finished. In the room, taleta wanted chupa com camisinha but after my insistence and threat to talk to receptionist, she quickly relented and started deep BBBJ. Multiple position and I asked her to take the camisinha off so I can do CIM. She did exactly that and another 10 minutes. Of BBBJ before CIM. She didn't swallow but that's ok. Overall, decent session. I'd rate her and the session about 7.

Miruna was 2 min. Walk from there so I went to see the lineup. Few newer faces from yesterday but nothing special. I didn't want to session anyhow. Ave. Miruna goes straight to the mall. Walked to ibirapuerra mall in about 10 minutes. Spent a couple of hours there. Ate lunch and walked back to my hotel in about 20 minutes. For some rest and a short nap. It was about 4:30 now.

I'm doing good on massagems but I will now have to see 4 botes in 2 nights since I now have 2 days and 2 nights left. Plan is to go to bomboa first tonight, then go to cafe photo. Pull one from cafe photo since there is no saida there. Then tomorrow, visit Scandallos first and love story after. And, visit 4-5 massagems in the next 2 afternoons. That should cover my goal of visiting top 5 botes and 10 massagems in 5 days and 4 nights total. Let's see if these plans work out. They rarely do..[/QUOTE]

It took three tries but Finally got my Brazil visa. I have studied the last 50 reports of ISG and I feel well informed and ready to hit the ground running. I haven't committed myself to an airbnb apartment yet but I'm ready. Here's my question. Should I bring cash and use a money changer or, use an ATM if the exchange is the same or close? I'm looking for info from the experts. Getting excited can't wait to get to SPO.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2039265]It took three tries but Finally got my Brazil visa. I have studied the last 50 reports of ISG and I feel well informed and ready to hit the ground running. I haven't committed myself to an airbnb apartment yet but I'm ready. Here's my question. Should I bring cash and use a money changer or, use an ATM if the exchange is the same or close? I'm looking for info from the experts. Getting excited can't wait to get to SPO.[/QUOTE]As I said recently, for me in Brazil, cash is king! Too many people have gotten skimmed and money stolen out of their accounts when using ATMs in Brazil. So much so that they are a no go zone for me. I bring cash, lock it up securely in my room, and take only what I need for the day and exchange it for local currency at a good cambio. Others will tell you that they use ATMs, but I never have in Brazil, and don't plan on it anytime soon either. For me, it's less risky to just work with cash all the way.

Late in getting up again with all the drinking the night before. Although I don't drink a lot and pace myself, 8 hours a night get to you. Nice sunny day. Warmer than yesterday. Woke up for breakfast at 9 otherwise stayed in bed until 2.

Ubered to clinica enjoy just after 2 pm. About 12 girls. 2 seemed doable but barely. I didn't want to rush it. Walked to red massagem. About 15 min. Walk. Quite a few girls were presented. I liked the very last one. Nice face, smile, skinny body. Took her for 1 HR. For R200. Amazing attitude in the room. Very nice to talk to. Total GFE session. Nice BBBJ and soft all over body kisses. No rush. Took pics at the end. Will repeat tomorrow if I have time. She asked me 3 times to come back to see her. Just when I was leaving, I saw another girl I liked. I will now definitely have to come back on my last day tomorrow.

It was just after 4 and I was getting a bit hungry. Another 15 min. Walk to ibirapuerra mall. Had lunch there before walking back to my hotel for some rest. Wanted to hit scandallo just before 7 pm to save on entrada. There was no time to rest since I had to leave around 6:15 to get there before 7. Really looking forward to this place.

Scandallo. Got here around 6:45. R150 entrance with R150 consumption. I got here really early. There were only a few people in there. Spoke with a few girls. All of them wanted to go upstairs and quoted me about R700 - R800. I had a few beers until 10 pm, that's when the lounge with the band was opened. There were a lot of girls there. Quite a few ugly ones but a few good looking ones as well. The girls were pretty Aggressive. After about 2-3 minute talk, they all wanted to go upstairs. Scandallo has been covered very well on the forum so I won't discuss too much here. Spoke with a few cute ones before deciding on a dyed blonde from Santa Catarina. She quoted R800 and took a lot of work to get her to agree on R600. Plus R200 for the room. Pretty good session. Eager to please but R800 is not cheap. Came down, stayed for another couple of hours. Left at around 2 pm. My bill was R280 for 8 drinks at R35 each. So it cost me about R1100 at Scandallo. Definitely not cheap but worth going at least once. Ubered to love story. Last boîte on my list.

Love Story. Got here around 2:30. Paid R120 and they gave me 4 slips for 4 drinks. Beer included was itaipava which I think is gross. I took the 1 beer, 2 bottles of water and gave away a ticket to a girl there. Very slow inside. Only about 4 guys and 2 girls. 2 of the guys were kissing each other. Do I regret coming here or what? I waited until around 4:30. It got better with more people coming in. But I didn't even see one good looking girl. All older girls. I'm sure it has a lot to do with Tuesday night and it should be a lot better on the weekends but I'm leaving tomorrow. Ubered to the hotel and went to bed right away.

[QUOTE=DrClitorius;2039211]Nice reports Sexmachine1, good job.

I will be waiting for Scandallo's news!

Where are the best places to change money in SP actually?

DC.[/QUOTE]I changed enough money in Rio before coming here. But walking from my hotel to ibirapuerra mall, I saw 2 exchange places on Pavao near Gaviotta intersection. Never stopped to ask for the rate. I'll try to do that today and post the exchange rates.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2039023]Good report, particularly, on Photo. There has not been much info on it lately. I am pleasantly surprised to hear there were more than 70 girls on a Monday night. Were there more girls at Photo than at Bomboa? As Monday is a slow night that bodes well for the normally busier nights. I have not gone there as I have a big list of regulars that I see for much less $ and incredible service. However, I am always curious about seeing new talent so I am tempted to visit Photo again soon. I am not sure what to make of the first girl saying that most of the girls there will not kiss of BBBJ. I think she was was just lying in order to make you think her service was above par or the girls at Photo. Kissing and BBBJ are considered minimum services by most GPS in Brazil and at Photo rates there should be no question. Why would anyone pay more for less service? Unless these girls are preying on the naivete of visitors and offering different levels of service to different customers, which is possible. Either way you did the right thing in rejecting her.

Overall, the net take away from your report is that Photo can actually be less expensive than Scandallo and Bomboa given that the entrance is less. There is no saida cost and you don't have to pay for a room if you can go to your own place, where the time may be extended. Of course both of them are ridiculously expensive compared to other options, but it's good to know the relative cost structure of these high end places.

So how were the girls dressed at Photo? Historically Photo girls dress in ways that conceal rather than reveal so many men have reported being disappointed when the clothing was removed.[/QUOTE]Yep. There were a lot of girls at cafe photo. Should be close to 70 when it was at peak around midnight. But mostly older girls. I like under 25 and pretty face. Personally, I only liked 2 out of 70. On the other hand, bomboa had more younger girls. There may be a few more than 70 girls at Bomboa. Girls at bomboa were elegantly dressed. While at cafe, it was mixture of casually dressed and nicely dressed girls. Bomboa felt a bit more upscale than photo.

You are right. The way some girls were dressed at both places. It is hard to make out what they'll look like without clothes.

The girl was bullshitting me. Trying to get her mil reals. She was best looking girl at cafe photo though. Still, that was too much money.

Yes. Cafe photo is cheaper because they don't have rooms. Girls will tell you right away because they know that they'll have to go back to your place. Which I like because you are not paying for the room on site and you are always more comfortable and in command at your own hotel room or apartment.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2039391]I changed enough money in Rio before coming here. But walking from my hotel to ibirapuerra mall, I saw 2 exchange places on Pavao near Gaviotta intersection. Never stopped to ask for the rate. I'll try to do that today and post the exchange rates.[/QUOTE]There is also a cambio inside the Ibirapuera Mall on the upper most level I believe.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2039397]Yep. There were a lot of girls at cafe photo. Should be close to 70 when it was at peak around midnight. But mostly older girls. I like under 25 and pretty face. Personally, I only liked 2 out of 70. On the other hand, bomboa had more younger girls. There may be a few more than 70 girls at Bomboa. Girls at bomboa were elegantly dressed. While at cafe, it was mixture of casually dressed and nicely dressed girls. Bomboa felt a bit more upscale than photo.

Yes. Cafe photo is cheaper because they don't have rooms. Girls will tell you right away because they know that they'll have to go back to your place. Which I like because you are not paying for the room on site and you are always more comfortable and in command at your own hotel room or apartment.[/QUOTE]I stopped in on Cafe Foto twice during my trip to Sampa, and I liked it enough that I definitely would check it out again. But still, I've got it ranked behind Scandallo and Bomboa, and I would say that even Casarao has a more interesting atmosphere, even if it isn't nearly as nice as Cafe Foto is. I sessioned with a girl from Cafe Foto during my second visit to that club, but we did not go back to my room. No, instead we took a "company car" (no charge) to a nearby love hotel called the "Kinky Hotel". As I said in my field report, I started laughing when I saw the name of the place! The guy running it spoke great English and was a hoot, and the room was nice and spacious and clean. It took a little while for the water in the shower to get hot, but I had no major problems with the place. And take your own condoms if you go to Hotel Kinky (I'm assuming it's still a going concern) lest you be charged for using the condoms provided in the room.

Was a bit tired when I got up for breakfast around 9. After breakfast, rested for another couple of hours. I have to check out from my hotel around 1. I want to leave for the airport by 5. That gives me my last 4 hours in SP for this trip.

Ubered to Red around 1:30. Asked for the girl from yesterday. The one I saw when I was leaving. She was there. Very friendly. Kept smiling and staring in my eyes. Took her for an hour. Pretty good session. Did everything I asked for.

The one I did yesterday was supposed to come to work at 3. So I hung around at red massagem for about half hour to repeat with her. She showed up on time and was very happy to see me again. Equally good session as yesterday. Left around 4 pm. Ubered back to my hotel to pick up my luggage.

I am now in the hotel lobby writing this. Will be on my way to the airport shortly. Sorry for the short report. Only 2 sessions at Red. No boîte. Planning to be back in September.

Hope my reports help someone. It takes a lot of precious vacation time to write these reports. Just doing my bit to give back to the forum which has helped me immensely during the last 12 years. Special thanks to the SP posters for helping me prepare for this trip. I found a lot of invaluable info on the SP thread.

Summary of this trip will follow shortly.

SexMachine1.

It was my first trip to São Paulo. Well worth it. Really enjoyed my time. Brazil certainly is one of the best places in the world for our hobby. Few notes and observations -.

1. I walked a lot during the day to massagems. Lot of them are from 2 minutes. To 15 minutes. Away from each other. I love to walk since it keeps me fit. If you don't want to walk, uber will cost you like $3 -$4 each way, which is very cheap. Always used uber during night time especially going to boîtes since they were far from my hotel. Uber saved me quite a bit of money. Also, uber shows the map and car you are in, in real time so you know if you are following the right route all the way. Makes you feel safe in a new city.

2. São Paulo has the feel of a big city. Lots of traffic, high rise buildings everywhere. Still, I felt very safe throughout. Not even once was I concerned for safety. Took usual precautions. Never did I feel that I was being cheated anywhere but you still have to be careful. Always ask for your bill and carefully check it.

3. I didn't need to change money since I changed a lot in Rio before coming. I changed when real was down one day last week for R3. 75 for 1 euro. I guesstimated and brought about R5000. I'm now left with only R200 which I'll take back for the next trip. So I spent about R4800 in 5 days. It doesn't include flight, hotel or uber. I spent less in Rio in the same amount of days. About R4000. But if someone is looking for a Cambio, I saw a couple on ave. Pavao, near gaviotta street, close to my hotel, while walking to ibirapuerra mall.

4. The real value is in massagems but I like boîte scene a lot. Boîtes get more expensive but a lot of fun talking to girls, hanging out and enjoying the music. I usually did 1 massagem girl in the afternoon and 1 from the boîte. It worked out perfectly for me.

5. I did not have a bad session in São Paulo. All were good to excellent. I spoke with the girls beforehand to minimize the chances of a bad session. I always try to build a little bit of chemistry first to make her feel relaxed which sometimes helps.

6. Hotel slaviero essential was good value. If it wasn't for the noise of landing airplanes overhead, I would have highly recommended it.

7. Finally, this summary wouldn't be complete without a comparison between Rio and SP. So here goes. IMHO, São Paulo was just as good as Rio if anything, may be a little better for me. Getting around in Rio is easier than SP. You can use metro in rio but in SP, I used uber. Casas in rio Centro were a bit inferior to massagems in SP in terms of facilities. Boîtes in São Paulo are comparable to termas in Rio for night time action. Both have their pluses and minuses. Services were very comparable by the girls in both cities. SP is a bit more expensive in both massagems and boîtes. I like more lighter skinned girls which were available more in SP than Rio. And, I'm more into boîtes So, IMHO, I give a little edge to São Paulo over Rio. Someone who's more into darker skinned girls with bigger bundas may like Rio better. But both kinds of girls were available in both cities. There is no clear winner. I love Rio as well otherwise I wouldn't have been there dozen times. I think I got it done right by splitting my days in both cities. I'll do the same thing next time. Might do an extra day in SP.

Thanks for reading guys. If anyone has any specific questions, pm me.

SexMachine1.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2039516]Services were very comparable by the girls in both cities. [/QUOTE]Hey man, really enjoyed your reports! Thanks for giving back. That's the way to do it! Just wanted to say that Rio gets the edge from me because I found the service there to be more in line to what I like. I found anal to be on the menu in Rio far, far more often than I did in Sao Paulo, and I had a very difficult time getting BBBJ / CIM in Sao Paulo, whereas in Rio that's pretty routine in the termas. I like a nice mix of light-skinned to tanned girls, and Rio is good for that as well. So for me, Rio wins out, and it's just a more appealing city appearance-wise to me too. One of the most beautiful in the world! Although, Sampa wins hands down when it comes to which city has the best food scene. But hey, like I've said before, why pick and choose between the one over the other? Go to both! And that's exactly what I hope to do too the next time I can get down there. Thanks for the informative reporting.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2039516]It was my first trip to So Paulo. Well worth it. Really enjoyed my time. Brazil certainly is one of the best places in the world for our hobby. Few notes and observations -.

1. I walked a lot during the day to massagems. Lot of them are from 2 minutes. To 15 minutes. Away from each other. I love to walk since it keeps me fit. If you don't want to walk, uber will cost you like $3 -$4 each way, which is very cheap. Always used uber during night time especially going to botes since they were far from my hotel. Uber saved me quite a bit of money. Also, uber shows the map and car you are in, in real time so you know if you are following the right route all the way. Makes you feel safe in a new city.

2. So Paulo has the feel of a big city. Lots of traffic, high rise buildings everywhere. Still, I felt very safe throughout. Not even once was I concerned for safety. Took usual precautions. Never did I feel that I was being cheated anywhere but you still have to be careful. Always ask for your bill and carefully check it.

3. I didn't need to change money since I changed a lot in Rio before coming. I changed when real was down one day last week for R3. 75 for 1 euro. I guesstimated and brought about R5000. I'm now left with only R200 which I'll take back for the next trip. So I spent about R4800 in 5 days. It doesn't include flight, hotel or uber. I spent less in Rio in the same amount of days. About R4000. But if someone is looking for a Cambio, I saw a couple on ave. Pavao, near gaviotta street, close to my hotel, while walking to ibirapuerra mall.

4. The real value is in massagems but I like bote scene a lot. Botes get more expensive but a lot of fun talking to girls, hanging out and enjoying the music. I usually did 1 massagem girl in the afternoon and 1 from the bote. It worked out perfectly for me.

5. I did not have a bad session in So Paulo. All were good to excellent. I spoke with the girls beforehand to minimize the chances of a bad session. I always try to build a little bit of chemistry first to make her feel relaxed which sometimes helps.

6. Hotel slaviero essential was good value. If it wasn't for the noise of landing airplanes overhead, I would have highly recommended it.

7. Finally, this summary wouldn't be complete without a comparison between Rio and SP. So here goes. IMHO, So Paulo was just as good as Rio if anything, may be a little better for me. Getting around in Rio is easier than SP. You can use metro in rio but in SP, I used uber. Casas in rio Centro were a bit inferior to massagems in SP in terms of facilities. Botes in So Paulo are comparable to termas in Rio for night time action. Both have their pluses and minuses. Services were very comparable by the girls in both cities. SP is a bit more expensive in both massagems and botes. I like more lighter skinned girls which were available more in SP than Rio. And, I'm more into botes So, IMHO, I give a little edge to So Paulo over Rio. Someone who's more into darker skinned girls with bigger bundas may like Rio better. But both kinds of girls were available in both cities. There is no clear winner. I love Rio as well otherwise I wouldn't have been there dozen times. I think I got it done right by splitting my days in both cities. I'll do the same thing next time. Might do an extra day in SP.

Thanks for reading guys. If anyone has any specific questions, pm me.

SexMachine1.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Hotel Slaviero 6 weeks ago and can't remember of any plane flying over the place. Very likely you got a bad day where planes had to come in from a specific direction because of wind.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2039884]Hey man, really enjoyed your reports! Thanks for giving back. That's the way to do it! Just wanted to say that Rio gets the edge from me because I found the service there to be more in line to what I like. I found anal to be on the menu in Rio far, far more often than I did in Sao Paulo, and I had a very difficult time getting BBBJ / CIM in Sao Paulo, whereas in Rio that's pretty routine in the termas. I like a nice mix of light-skinned to tanned girls, and Rio is good for that as well. So for me, Rio wins out, and it's just a more appealing city appearance-wise to me too. One of the most beautiful in the world! Although, Sampa wins hands down when it comes to which city has the best food scene. But hey, like I've said before, why pick and choose between the one over the other? Go to both! And that's exactly what I hope to do too the next time I can get down there. Thanks for the informative reporting.[/QUOTE]Hi Cane.

I'm glad that you liked my reports. Rio is definitely the best place in the world for anal action but I am not into it. I never even asked in Sao Paulo but at some places, receptionists told me that certain girls were completas. I agree with you that Anal is more readily available in Rio. I am surprised that you had a hard time getting BBBJ / CIM in Sao Paulo. As you can read in my reports, I only had 1 girl tried to avoid it but agreed after a few minutes of insistence. Most girls actually offered it themselves. Maybe, I got lucky a few times and was with the right girls. I also agree with you to enjoy the girls in both cities. Why settle on one?

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2039948]I stayed at Hotel Slaviero 6 weeks ago and can't remember of any plane flying over the place. Very likely you got a bad day where planes had to come in from a specific direction because of wind.[/QUOTE]Not likely. I spent 4 nights and 5 days here. It was the same thing every day. It didn't bother me as much since I am a heavy sleeper and was rarely in my room during the day. But, It would bother most people.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2039452]I stopped in on Cafe Foto twice during my trip to Sampa, and I liked it enough that I definitely would check it out again. But still, I've got it ranked behind Scandallo and Bomboa, and I would say that even Casarao has a more interesting atmosphere, even if it isn't nearly as nice as Cafe Foto is.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with your assessment. I would rate Scandallo and Bomboa much higher than Photo. Casarao feels a bit low end when compared with these 3 but there are a few nice girls here and it is cheaper than the other 3.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2039446]There is also a cambio inside the Ibirapuera Mall on the upper most level I believe.[/QUOTE]There are 2 cambios inside the mall. There are little interactive information screens near the escalators that can be used to find them. Rates are not good in there. Better place right across the street from the mall on Moaci (near Outback steak house). If you change more money, you can get an even better rate than the first rate they will tell you.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2040042]Not likely. I spent 4 nights and 5 days here. It was the same thing every day. It didn't bother me as much since I am a heavy sleeper and was rarely in my room during the day. But, It would bother most people.[/QUOTE]There are multiple hotel Slaveiros, probably Criss talk. The ones in Moema and near CGH will have plane noise, that's a fact of life in Moema. But Sexmachine is correct, its a regular thing not a fluke, the approach and descent routes are fixed, they just flip direction depending on wind.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2038444]They have this ridiculous (bad for us gringos) offer for posters of the local forums, 140 / hour and every fifth hour free or similar. It's been going on for months and I don't know how long. That's why there are so many guys and many of them make a reservation beforehand and the best girls are busy all the time.[/QUOTE]After 5 sessions Enjoy Spa gives the 6th at 50 % discount. That is for everybody. It's called Plano Fidelidade. The posters of local forums pay 170, instead of 230, every 5th session is free.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2040048]I agree 100% with your assessment. I would rate Scandallo and Bomboa much higher than Photo. Casarao feels a bit low end when compared with these 3 but there are a few nice girls here and it is cheaper than the other 3.[/QUOTE]They are all high end and all expensive, but quite different in atmosphere IMO.

Scandalo is HUGE, and has an international atmosphere, negative is that it is ridiculously DARK to the point where its hard to see the girls across the room.

Photo is the most reserved atmosphere, think whiskey bar for rich guys. The customers sit at tables and the girls stand around the bar and only approach if signaled.

Bomboa is the most Brazilian atmosphere, much much brighter than the others, with lively music, and very easy to see the girls, as there is a natural circulation of girls walking around and around the central lounge. You can sit at the bar and they just keep squeezing past.

Imo, Bomboa has by far the best atmosphere, but Scandalo seems to be winning market share in a tight market.

Photo used to have a great location that was like a big mansion and had a great party atmosphere. Then they moved to their current location and changed the vibe to be more uptight and formal. Its a shame, they changed it for the worse IMO.

Casarao is very different from the above 3 and sort of in a category of its own.

BTW. Its "boate", not "boite". Boate is pronounced "bow-ahch". Good reports.

Sexmachine1,

Great reports on Brazil! Good organization and detail. They will help even the more seasoned Brazil travelers amongst us.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2040240]They are all high end and all expensive, but quite different in atmosphere IMO.

Scandalo is HUGE, and has an international atmosphere, negative is that it is ridiculously DARK to the point where its hard to see the girls across the room.

Photo is the most reserved atmosphere, think whiskey bar for rich guys. The customers sit at tables and the girls stand around the bar and only approach if signaled.

Bomboa is the most Brazilian atmosphere, much much brighter than the others, with lively music, and very easy to see the girls, as there is a natural circulation of girls walking around and around the central lounge. You can sit at the bar and they just keep squeezing past.

Imo, Bomboa has by far the best atmosphere, but Scandalo seems to be winning market share in a tight market.

Photo used to have a great location that was like a big mansion and had a great party atmosphere. Then they moved to their current location and changed the vibe to be more uptight and formal. Its a shame, they changed it for the worse IMO.

Casarao is very different from the above 3 and sort of in a category of its own.

BTW. Its "boate", not "boite". Boate is pronounced "bow-ahch". Good reports.[/QUOTE]Thanks Rovnak. I had least amount of fun in Cafe Photo, out of the 4 places you mentioned. G]Could be that certain night. I do agree with your assessment of these places. Someone as experienced as you surely knows what you are talking about. Sorry. My Porto is passable and not as good as yours.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;2040473]Thanks Rovnak. I had least amount of fun in Cafe Photo, out of the 4 places you mentioned. G]Could be that certain night. I do agree with your assessment of these places. Someone as experienced as you surely knows what you are talking about. Sorry. My Porto is passable and not as good as yours.[/QUOTE]No disrespect meant. Just sharing the pronunciation tip for other members. Chhers.

To be more specific about my last post. What clubs / agencies tend to have girls that resemble Abby Lee Brazil (pornstar)? Slim, tattooed Brazilian girls?

Just had a fantastic session at Red massagem. One of the best sessions in 3. 5 weeks. Checked the list of girls on arrival and asked for her. I remembered her name from a previous visit. Smoking hot 20 year old loira with a sweet body. Decent sized breasts, slim waist, and a nice juicy booty. Not a big bunda, that I usually like, but a heart shaped butt. Her ass was just right. They are closed tomorrow. I took the girl's number and we agreed for her to come to the apt tomorrow. :D

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2040240]They are all high end and all expensive, but quite different in atmosphere IMO.

Scandalo is HUGE, and has an international atmosphere, negative is that it is ridiculously DARK to the point where its hard to see the girls across the room.

Photo is the most reserved atmosphere, think whiskey bar for rich guys. The customers sit at tables and the girls stand around the bar and only approach if signaled.

Bomboa is the most Brazilian atmosphere, much much brighter than the others, with lively music, and very easy to see the girls, as there is a natural circulation of girls walking around and around the central lounge. You can sit at the bar and they just keep squeezing past.

Imo, Bomboa has by far the best atmosphere, but Scandalo seems to be winning market share in a tight market.

Photo used to have a great location that was like a big mansion and had a great party atmosphere. Then they moved to their current location and changed the vibe to be more uptight and formal. Its a shame, they changed it for the worse IMO.

Casarao is very different from the above 3 and sort of in a category of its own.

BTW. Its "boate", not "boite". Boate is pronounced "bow-ahch". Good reports.[/QUOTE]Thank you for using and pronunciation of Boate. You are correct.

Tangara will be open today from noon until 8 PM.

The majority if the garotas have tattoos. Yesterday they were over 30 girls.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2040769]To be more specific about my last post. What clubs / agencies tend to have girls that resemble Abby Lee Brazil (pornstar)? Slim, tattooed Brazilian girls?[/QUOTE]With very few exceptions most clubs do not have a particular "type" of girl. I mean, why or how would one club have more slim tattooed girls than another? Think about it. Girls of all shapes and colors go to these clubs and the distribution varies over time. The larger trends are societal not club specific. For example the societal trend now is for big thigh girls, so you find them in abundance all over. Slimmer girls are rarer all over. There are no clubs that cater to particular looks.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2040240]

BTW. Its "boate", not "boite". Boate is pronounced "bow-ahch". Good reports.[/QUOTE]I don't understand, I have always seen both these words used to mean the same thing in Rio. I always thought they were interchangeable.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2041247]I don't understand, I have always seen both these words used to mean the same thing in Rio. I always thought they were interchangeable.[/QUOTE]BOATE is portugues, BOITE is spanish.

Any of you have any experience with photoacompanhantes, M Class, or Clubmodel? Any good / bad experiences? Is it common for most girls to say to meet at their flat rather than them come to your hotel?

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2041461]Any of you have any experience with photoacompanhantes, M Class, or Clubmodel? Any good / bad experiences? Is it common for most girls to say to meet at their flat rather than them come to your hotel?[/QUOTE]You need to see thru all the photoshop. Don't be too shocked if you are greeted by a woman who looks 5 years older and a few pounds heavier.

And most girls only service at their flats.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2041461]Any of you have any experience with photoacompanhantes, M Class, or Clubmodel? Any good / bad experiences? Is it common for most girls to say to meet at their flat rather than them come to your hotel?[/QUOTE]I tried photoacmptes last week. I just discovered it recently.

Photos are amazing, but I was under no illusion that was the quality one would get.

But I thought I would meet someone.

First girl I called was named Anulú, hot dirty blond. She answered right away and gave me her address and we agreed on a time.

It was in the TransAmerica hotel in Jardins, close to my hotel.

I showed up about 5 early and waited in the lobby. And waited, and waited.

After 35 min I left. I speak Portuguese at about a 5/10 level so I know it was not a translation issue.

Went back to my hotel which was only 10 min walk away.

Went to plan be girl, called Rebecca, her ad is always posted near the top.

She answered right away, sexy voice and seemed happy I called.

She too is in Jardins and was ready then. I told her I would be there in 20 minutes.

Arrived prompt, kinda run down apartment building, rua Caneca.

Doorman stopped me and I had to call up first. Someone answered and said I had to wait.

OK, maybe she was not ready. After 10 min someone called said I could go up.

Apt 94, no lights in hallway had to use my phone's torch to see.

Knocked and a completely diff girl answered. Invited me in, then proceeded to tell me Rebecca just left.

Place was almost barren of furniture, I sat at a breakfast table that had a few empty beer cans, makeup and a crack pipe on it.

I asked then why if Rebecca left she still let me up, and she did not have much of an explanation.

Left and cabbed it to Photo Cafe.

So my only forray into one of those sites did not go too well.

But I would like to try again my next time down in June.

If anyone has any recs of a girl they think is legit, I would be grateful for the intel.

Lonny.

Visited CLínica Tangará, Brooklin and Casaros the first day.

CLínica Tangará.

Visited on a Sunday 16 girls available. Standouts were Natalia and Priscilla. Natalia looks like a model very tall (look over 6 ft in heels), skinny and beautiful face. Looks eastern European. Priscilla looks like what you would find in Rio. Curvy, Moreno, thick legs and butt, good sized breast, pretty face. I didn't go with either. There was some other lookers depending on your taste. There was a spinner type with big breast for her small frame. Looked perfect couldn't tell if they were real or fake. Has tattoo on her leg. I went with the girl with the biggest butt I seen there names Talia or Thalia I'm not sure if that is how it's spelled to be honest. She seemed very shy and I liked that. Went to the room took a shower. She took over her clothes and I noticed she has a little belly. Looked like after pregnancy belly. Butt she has a huge ass which I was looking for. Took a shower. The session was ok. She tried her best to please. Wouldn't let me try anal but I think she could be persuaded. 30 minute session 100 reais.

Took an Uber to Brooklin. Around 7-8 girls there. There was one girl all the guys there were going crazy for. Here name was Bombom. Black, curly afro, medium sized bubble butt, good sized breast. The other one that stood out to me was what looked like a very tall Japanese Brazilian women. I thought she was pretty, she had the whole dominatrix look going on with the leather corset and hairstyle. I also sent her at Casaros tonight. Didn't session. Went to the apartment and ate dinner and got ready for Casaros.

Got to Casaros around 1 in the morning. It was not that many people there. Maybe like 20-30 girls. Only a few stood out. I had some good luck here in the past finding what I like big asses and small waist. There were two girls that fit the profile. One was brunette with big fake ass. Someone took her quickly before I could scan the upstairs and downstairs. The other was another perfectly engineered fake ass and breast. Dirty blonde would kept playing with her hair in the mirror. Every guy who talk to her she wouldn't look at them and kept playing with her hair. I didn't even bother. Decided not to session there and went home.

Next day, I looked for some trash prives. I looked up gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] to find them. I went to a couple of places that were night time places.

I found this one interesting place at Rua dos Andradas 69. It is a building where you can choose women who wait for you to choose them as you walk up the stairs. A villa Mimosa set up in my opinion but not as good. From the second floor to the ninth floor there are women of all ages, shape sizes and colors. There were about 40-50 women there mostly ugly. But I did find a few doables. I chose one who I think here name is Rebecca. 19 year old brunette, small boobs, flat stomach and medium bubble butt. Session was ok. The rooms are make shift and there is room to move around. Just a bed, with dirty looking sheets. They do have a bathroom that was filthy. They scented the rooms so it didn't smell which was nice LOL. I paid 30 reais for 20 minutes. They girls are aggressive. As you walk damn near all of them will grab you and try to get you to come with them.

After walking up and down those steps I was tired. There was an elevator but I took too long and there was too many people there and this lady who sat in the all day doing crossword puzzle talked the entire time you were in there LOL. I went back to the apartment ate and rested up a bit.

I went back to Casaros around 1 in the morning. It was a Monday and I hoped I could find what I was looking for. There are more girls but also a lot more dudes. Luckily I seen this perfect ass when I went to the bar area. I did my walk through came right and came right back. I had to wait until this guy finished wasting her time. I took her through my must haves for what I was going to pay. She agreed and off we went. She was a morena from Rio. She said she was 31!! I couldn't believe it she looked younger. But no matter I was already there and she has one of the best asses I seen in a week in Brazil. And it was a great choice, tight lussy and tighter ass. She let me take pictures and wanted me to stay longer. But I was quite satisfied. 200 reais for 40 minutes (even though we were up there for at least an hour) and 40 reais for the room.

I walked back downstairs. Surveyed the area just to see if there were any others I liked. Didn't see anything. Casaros use to have so many more stunners but maybe it was because of the days I visited it was slow. But nonetheless, found what I was looking for. Hoped in an Uber and went home. Up next is a new city for me. Belo Horizonte.

Arrived there around 4 PM, saw first Natalia, the tall european model style girl, after a brief talk she said that she doesn't kiss and only CWB, what made me turn her off inmediatly.

Went with Cleo, a little morena, GFE, DFK, BBBJ finished with a CIM.

Next I went wit Taty, a very small and slim mulatinha, GFE, LFK, BBBJ and CIM.

100 reais for each one, 1/2 hour!

ABG.

[QUOTE=Global00;2041727]I went back to Casaros around 1 in the morning. It was a Monday and I hoped I could find what I was looking for. There are more girls but also a lot more dudes. Luckily I seen this perfect ass when I went to the bar area. I did my walk through came right and came right back. I had to wait until this guy finished wasting her time. I took her through my must haves for what I was going to pay. She agreed and off we went. She was a morena from Rio. She said she was 31!! I couldn't believe it she looked younger. But no matter I was already there and she has one of the best asses I seen in a week in Brazil. And it was a great choice, tight lussy and tighter ass. She let me take pictures and wanted me to stay longer. But I was quite satisfied. 200 reais for 40 minutes (even though we were up there for at least an hour) and 40 reais for the room.

I walked back downstairs. Surveyed the area just to see if there were any others I liked. Didn't see anything. Casaros use to have so many more stunners but maybe it was because of the days I visited it was slow. But nonetheless, found what I was looking for. Hoped in an Uber and went home. Up next is a new city for me. Belo Horizonte.[/QUOTE]Now that's the kind of bunda that keeps us Brazil lovers going back again and again! I'm interested in what your Belo Horizonte findings will be. You see, when I first started going to Brazil, it seemed like I was always meeting and choosing a lot of girls who happened to be from that city. So, very curious to know about your upcoming experiences there.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2041461]Any of you have any experience with photoacompanhantes, M Class, or Clubmodel? Any good / bad experiences? Is it common for most girls to say to meet at their flat rather than them come to your hotel?[/QUOTE]Announcements on clubmodel are very expensive to maintain, therefore the girls that post there have higher expenses to cover. They tend to be the more established pros, which can be good or bad depending on your perspective.

Photoacomp has a premium price model, so there are far more ads.

In general there are very few outright false ads. Most contain photos of the actual girl BUT they may be old photos, or retouched photos. In Photoa, look at bottom of profile page to see if there are more announcements with the same number. If there are more and they are the same girl, no problem. However, if different girls have the same number that is a red flag and means it is probably an agency, and honestly, I know of no reliable agency in SP. I would stay away from all of them. Most of the ads are not of this type, most are indies. But very very hit and miss.

In summary, for a short time visitor these contacts should be your last option or an option for an hour or day when all else is closed like a holiday. And it should be considered a dice roll at best, unless you see one with a high number of good reviews.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2041938]Now that's the kind of bunda that keeps us Brazil lovers going back again and again! I'm interested in what your Belo Horizonte findings will be. You see, when I first started going to Brazil, it seemed like I was always meeting and choosing a lot of girls who happened to be from that city. So, very curious to know about your upcoming experiences there.[/QUOTE]You and I seem to be among the few on this board that like the bunda. I am surprised at how many gringos visit the land of the bunda looking for small asses. In my case its really about ass to waist ratio. A big ass by itself is no turn on unless the waist is sufficiently small to set it off nicely.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2042001]In my case its really about ass to waist ratio. A big ass by itself is no turn on unless the waist is sufficiently small to set it off nicely.[/QUOTE]Exactly! There's all kinds of different bundas. I prefer a "bubble". And you? LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2042130]Exactly! There's all kinds of different bundas. I prefer a "bubble". And you? LOL![/QUOTE]From that list bubble, bumper and amazon all look good. But really its all about the total package, the integration of the parts into the whole. That is why I dislike the butt implants because they generally do not integrate well into the entire figure, often the butt is too big for the thighs that attach to it. Even a petite girl can have a perky butt. Of course the butt in standing pos is diff from butt in de 4. Another topic.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2042130]Exactly! There's all kinds of different bundas. I prefer a "bubble". And you? LOL![/QUOTE]I am quite happy you guys prefer bundão (big butts) as I am a small tight butt aficionado myself.

That and martini ta ta's and I am in heaven.

One nice thing about Brazilian babes over Asian babes is that a thin tight Brazilian girl will still have ass.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2042000]Announcements on clubmodel are very expensive to maintain, therefore the girls that post there have higher expenses to cover. They tend to be the more established pros, which can be good or bad depending on your perspective.

Photoacomp has a premium price model, so there are far more ads.

In general there are very few outright false ads. Most contain photos of the actual girl BUT they may be old photos, or retouched photos. In Photoa, look at bottom of profile page to see if there are more announcements with the same number. If there are more and they are the same girl, no problem. However, if different girls have the same number that is a red flag and means it is probably an agency, and honestly, I know of no reliable agency in SP. I would stay away from all of them. Most of the ads are not of this type, most are indies. But very very hit and miss.

In summary, for a short time visitor these contacts should be your last option or an option for an hour or day when all else is closed like a holiday. And it should be considered a dice roll at best, unless you see one with a high number of good reviews.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the reply.

What would you say my first and second options should be?

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2042442]Appreciate the reply.

What would you say my first and second options should be?[/QUOTE]Better go to a good clinica and choose your girl from a lineup. And second go to a privée.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2042342]From that list bubble, bumper and amazon all look good. But really its all about the total package, the integration of the parts into the whole. That is why I dislike the butt implants because they generally do not integrate well into the entire figure, often the butt is too big for the thighs that attach to it. Even a petite girl can have a perky butt. Of course the butt in standing pos is diff from butt in de 4. Another topic.[/QUOTE]Latino men must really like bubble butts to session some of the implanted derrieres I've seen, especially in Colombia. The caricature appearance and discoloration turn me off.

I really like this place!

The service of the waiters is actualy amazing good, the atmosphere is awsome, and the girls are hot, but most importantly actualy friendly. I have been to the other clubs and some try to fleece you when you come in like a typical Gringo, this place treated me amazingly well. The 250 covercharge get credited for booze and food and I normaly spend at least that anyway, and it keeps the riffraffs and oglers out, hehehehe, definitely my new favorit place in the world!

Did I say the had many hot and friendly girls? Incredible many and whatever your tast I am sure you find it there.

If I only had a short stop in São Paulo this is where I would go.

Stranger.

Grazzi, slimm & tall girl, 1,84 m. , GFE, DFK, BBBJ and CIM. 150 reais = 1 hour.

Many other good options.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2041711]I tried photoacmptes last week. I just discovered it recently.

Photos are amazing, but I was under no illusion that was the quality one would get.

But I thought I would meet someone.

First girl I called was named Anul, hot dirty blond. She answered right away and gave me her address and we agreed on a time.

It was in the TransAmerica hotel in Jardins, close to my hotel.

I showed up about 5 early and waited in the lobby. And waited, and waited.

After 35 min I left. I speak Portuguese at about a 5/10 level so I know it was not a translation issue.

Went back to my hotel which was only 10 min walk away.

Went to plan be girl, called Rebecca, her ad is always posted near the top.

She answered right away, sexy voice and seemed happy I called.

She too is in Jardins and was ready then. I told her I would be there in 20 minutes.

Arrived prompt, kinda run down apartment building, rua Caneca.

Doorman stopped me and I had to call up first. Someone answered and said I had to wait.

OK, maybe she was not ready. After 10 min someone called said I could go up.

Apt 94, no lights in hallway had to use my phone's torch to see.

Knocked and a completely diff girl answered. Invited me in, then proceeded to tell me Rebecca just left.

Place was almost barren of furniture, I sat at a breakfast table that had a few empty beer cans, makeup and a crack pipe on it.

I asked then why if Rebecca left she still let me up, and she did not have much of an explanation.

Left and cabbed it to Photo Cafe.

So my only forray into one of those sites did not go too well.

But I would like to try again my next time down in June.

If anyone has any recs of a girl they think is legit, I would be grateful for the intel.

Lonny.[/QUOTE]What type of girl are you looking for? I've recommended several women in the recent past.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2041461]Any of you have any experience with photoacompanhantes, M Class, or Clubmodel? Any good / bad experiences? Is it common for most girls to say to meet at their flat rather than them come to your hotel?[/QUOTE]All of these websites have heavily photoshopped photos. I think Clubmodel is a bit more reliable. Mclass once had a reputation for more photoshopping. Perhaps they even did the photoshopping. I also believe Mclass would have photos of long retired escorts. Afterall, they try to get you to bite on buying a subscription to see more photos.

I've been quite critical of the idea that you can just go on the internet and pick girls from photos. Your best bet is to find the highly-rated escorts on gpguia and then click on the links to the girl's web ads and Twitter. You don't need to know a lot of Portuguese to get the drift and determine who are great experiences and hot. If that seems imposing, go to Twitter and look at at AmigasLuxo they have some top Sao Paulo acompanhantes listed. They will direct you to the girl's own Twitter feed. Many of the Brazilian escorts have more candid photos on Twitter.

Nick Rosa, Debora Drumond, Yasmine Piovane and Mayara Alencar are some hotties that I follow on Twitter. They all like to post untouched and hot photos.

Any idea who this girl is?

[URL]https://twitter.com/Zeeuuss_/status/867056891494531074[/URL]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2043513] ...... Nick Rosa, Debora Drumond, Yasmine Piovane and Mayara Alencar are some hotties that I follow on Twitter. They all like to post untouched and hot photos.[/QUOTE]But girls like Rosa, they want R400 for an hour. It's better to go to a clinica for R140 for an hour. You can have 3 girls for 3 hours for R420. I'm not paying R400 for 1 single hour in Brazil. That's my opinion. And I been coming here for 11 years.

Website girls are hit and miss. I want see and touch what I am paying for first (especially if it's more than R250).

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2043598]But girls like Rosa, they want R400 for an hour. It's better to go to a clinica for R140 for an hour. You can have 3 girls for 3 hours for R420. I'm not paying R400 for 1 single hour in Brazil. That's my opinion. And I been coming here for 11 years.

Website girls are hit and miss. I want see and touch what I am paying for first (especially if it's more than R250).[/QUOTE]I agree completely, clinicas are the best option to pick up young garotas for an honest fare.

Tangara will be open today. Least Sunday there were 16 gorls avaliable. 150 reais = 1 hour.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2043598]But girls like Rosa, they want R400 for an hour. It's better to go to a clinica for R140 for an hour. You can have 3 girls for 3 hours for R420. I'm not paying R400 for 1 single hour in Brazil. That's my opinion. And I been coming here for 11 years.

Website girls are hit and miss. I want see and touch what I am paying for first (especially if it's more than R250).[/QUOTE]There's a time and place for clinicas, boates and acompanhantes (escorts). I think of Sao Paulo escorts as more of an alternative to the boates. The prices of the hot girls in boates are high. It can be a lot of fun to hunt in the boates, but for more discretion and ease you might text a hot escort.

As far as Nick Rosa, she's a stunning and very highly-reviewed provider.

I can't comment on clinicas, but I notice a large difference in quality online between girls who charge 100-150 HR vs 300 HR +.

The discussion about Brasilian bunda made me think about what is my type. I find porn stars are a good illustration and guide. I find Mayara Shelson's body to be generally what I look for in Brasil. I don't think I've ever gone larger in Brasil or anywhere.

Rovnak is correct. A woman needs a healthy ass-to-waist ratio (65-70%) to be attractive. Size is irrelevant as a metric alone. I've definitely had Brasileiras with smaller bundas, but they always have quite a bit of pop in their ass. What's amazing is how firm Brasilias asses can be!

In line with porn stars as a bunda guide, I've always found Luana Alves and Darlene Amaro very attractive. (Besides shooting porn, Darlene worked in Rio for several years.) I've given sessioning with a Brasileira like this a thought, but I always talk myself out of it. This would definitely be my absolute upper limit for bunda.

I've seen Brazilian girls with bigger bundas. Truly popozudas. I just think at that point the ass starts to lose it's optimal pop and shape. I was once tempted to session with a pretty Monte Carlo girl who had a 4 x 4 ass (the truck not the terma) for the experience. When she walked from the bar, there was just too much jiggle for me. I'm sure in doggy position she was quite a sight.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2043822]In line with porn stars as a bunda guide, I've always found Luana Alves and Darlene Amaro very attractive. (Besides shooting porn, Darlene worked in Rio for several years.) I've given sessioning with a Brasileira like this a thought, but I always talk myself out of it. This would definitely be my absolute upper limit for bunda.

I've seen Brazilian girls with bigger bundas. Truly popozudas. I just think at that point the ass starts to lose it's optimal pop and shape. I was once tempted to session with a pretty Monte Carlo girl who had a 4 x 4 ass (the truck not the terma) for the experience. When she walked from the bar, there was just too much jiggle for me. I'm sure in doggy position she was quite a sight.[/QUOTE]One of my regulars is a semi pro, former dancer with a world travelling samba show. She has an ass to waist ratio that is out of this world, beyond anything I have ever seen photographed that wasn't photoshopped, and not an ounce of cellulite. The irony is that she actually wants to reduce it surgically because it attracts so much attention. The surgeon told her there was nothing to reduce as it was all prime beef.

This was one of my regulars in Rio. No longer in biz, but she was an all natural miracle, an ATF amongst ATFs, look at the delicious curve in her lower back and those gorgeous round mounds. Her bunda astonished even other Brasileiras. She is off the bunda chart.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2043822], I've always found Luana Alves very attractive. [/QUOTE]I'm familiar with Luana, she is so hot, and very sexy on film. The problem is unless your sporting 9 inches it's hard to reach her vag in doggie style. I've had these Africans with nice ass, hehe! The one in the pic with the huge ass was a big disappointment. Every time you just get warmed up she cums and wants to tap out!

Those are some nice asses for sure Naked Gunz.

I hear what you're saying about women like Luana Alves. I guess that's why I talk myself out of hitting a Brasieira bunda that large. I notice even the well-hung porn dudes seem to elevate them in doggy position so they can come in from an angle slightly underneath. If I tried to come at them doggy from an angle above, I would just be rubbing my dick between butt cheeks.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2043807]There's a time and place for clinicas, boates and acompanhantes (escorts). I think of Sao Paulo escorts as more of an alternative to the boates. The prices of the hot girls in boates are high. It can be a lot of fun to hunt in the boates, but for more discretion and ease you might text a hot escort.
As far as Nick Rosa, she's a stunning and very highly-reviewed provider.[/QUOTE]It ain't happening with me. I'm not paying an escort / GDP R$400 for a piece of ass in Brazil. Never in the past 11 years have I paid that much and I'm not paying it now either. I been here for 35 days, and the most I paid was R$250 for 1. 5 hours (2 pops) with an escort. Right now, here in SP, I can have 3 different girls for 3 whole hours for R420. Not that I need 3 girls in one day.

If one wants to hunt in a boate, you'd be better off going to Casarao (R240 for 40 minutes). Plus the R30 entrance fee that includes 3 beers.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2043822]In line with porn stars as a bunda guide, I've always found Luana Alves and Darlene Amaro very attractive. (Besides shooting porn, Darlene worked in Rio for several years.) I've given sessioning with a Brasileira like this a thought, but I always talk myself out of it. This would definitely be my absolute upper limit for bunda.

I've seen Brazilian girls with bigger bundas. Truly popozudas. I just think at that point the ass starts to lose it's optimal pop and shape. I was once tempted to session with a pretty Monte Carlo girl who had a 4 x 4 ass (the truck not the terma) for the experience. When she walked from the bar, there was just too much jiggle for me. I'm sure in doggy position she was quite a sight.[/QUOTE]Darlene is still in Rio. I hooked up with her in November. Ass still fat. Found her on a freelance website.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2044629]Darlene is still in Rio. I hooked up with her in November. Ass still fat. Found her on a freelance website.[/QUOTE]You're a lucky guy. It seems that she changes her number a lot and works sporadically. She has great reviews if you can reach her. It also seems that she shoots local porn.

I'm curious how is her body holding up. She's early 40's and at 5'0, 150 lbs. gravity is going to takeover sometime soon. Don't get me wrong. I think Darlene is a natural wonder.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2043506]What type of girl are you looking for? I've recommended several women in the recent past.[/QUOTE]Hi Wyatt,

I know I am in the minority, but I gravitate to slender woman with tight butts and smaller boobies.

The two I mentioned that I tried to meet thru Photoacompnts are right in my wheelhouse.

So if you know of one along those lines I would be most appreciative of the recommendation.

I will be back in SP in two weeks, going to try Tangará and then maybe PhotoA again.

Lonny.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2044733]You're a lucky guy. It seems that she changes her number a lot and works sporadically. She has great reviews if you can reach her. It also seems that she shoots local porn. I'm curious how is her body holding up. She's early 40's and at 5'0, 150 lbs. gravity is going to takeover sometime soon. Don't get me wrong. I think Darlene is a natural wonder.[/QUOTE]Look her up on xvideos to see her recent work. She has put on a lot of weight and does more 'niche' videos now. Facesitting and fart videos.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2043846]This was one of my regulars in Rio. No longer in biz, but she was an all natural miracle, an ATF amongst ATFs, look at the delicious curve in her lower back and those gorgeous round mounds. Her bunda astonished even other Brasileiras. She is off the bunda chart.[/QUOTE]WOW!! Que bunda, that's what I love about brasileiras, that and there unmatched passion for sex!

Yeah in October Darlene requested she face sit. She had me tap out afew times. She's alot bigger now but still full of energy and eager to please.

I do be beleive Luana Alves (real name Monique) is France with her boyfriend and has also put on the lbs.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;2044908]Look her up on xvideos to see her recent work. She has put on a lot of weight and does more 'niche' videos now. Facesitting and fart videos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Torgoch;2044908]Look her up on xvideos to see her recent work. She has put on a lot of weight and does more 'niche' videos now. Facesitting and fart videos.[/QUOTE]LOL this is just too funny! Eat a lot of beans and rice, get fat, pass gas, and then get paid! Doesn't sound too appealing to me actually LOLOLOL! Was never attracted to her in her prime, and based upon this, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be now either.

Yesterday was day three of my first time in Brazil. 2 weeks in SP then bus to Rio for 10 days. The great info off this thread directed me to Tangaria. Maybee 15 chicas, I did not count but I chose Mel. Not sure of the name but its close. Says she is 20 years old, Has A cup boobs with large nipples, and for me a perfect small petite body. She loves to kiss and did everything I asked of her. I will return today. The room was squeaky clean with a shower king bed and large mirror on wall. The one thing that blew me away, customers have the option of paying the 157 are by credit or debit card. First time I have ever heard of paying for pussy with a credit card. Also the mamasan called uber for my ride home.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2044733]You're a lucky guy. It seems that she changes her number a lot and works sporadically. She has great reviews if you can reach her. It also seems that she shoots local porn.

I'm curious how is her body holding up. She's early 40's and at 5'0, 150 lbs. gravity is going to takeover sometime soon. Don't get me wrong. I think Darlene is a natural wonder.[/QUOTE]Here is Darlene in Nov 2016 at my apartment in Rio.

Went out with Rovnak today and scouted six different places in Moema.

Chances 57: the boate now doubles as a prive. Presentation was scattershot, be we walked through and met some of the girls. 2 p on a Wednesday and there were around six girls. Some of them eating. Two of them caught my attention. Will return to sample.

Prices:

200/ HR for first visit. Follow up visits are 170/ HR, with every fifth visit free. Do the math: first five visits average 116/ HR. Following blocks of five average 110/ HR.

Enjoy spa: about 12 girls. Same owner as chanes. Didn't get prices. Selection was okay, but none stood out for me.

Miruna: same owner as the first two places. Again, about 12 girls. Fuckable, but didn't see wow factor there.

Abobora (SP? Maybe 8 girls here. Nothing special on display. 270/ HR.

Red Massagem: some girls were busy, approximately 20 were presented. Some lookers here. Comfortable salon. Didn't get prices.

Tangara: after walking all of moema to see the others we ubered here. I was hot and sweaty and needed a shower. Big line up. Perhaps 30 girls. Something for everyone.

A few observations: each place had at least one girl that was timid and awkwardly out of place. Big ass is everywhere. So are girls with bellies. Only Tangara and chanes had petites. Only Tangara had girls that looked incredibly new like they were there on a dare.

Went with Anitta. Does it all, including BBBJTCIM. Decent deep throat. Yesterday I went with Leticia. Petite magra with good mouth skills. She shoves it deep into her tight throat and then wiggles her tongue on the underside of the head. 100 1/2 hour. Gave each 50 additional for CIM.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2044821]Hi Wyatt,

I know I am in the minority, but I gravitate to slender woman with tight butts and smaller boobies.

The two I mentioned that I tried to meet thru Photoacompnts are right in my wheelhouse.

So if you know of one along those lines I would be most appreciative of the recommendation.

I will be back in SP in two weeks, going to try Tangar and then maybe PhotoA again.

Lonny.[/QUOTE]As far as PhotoA, I think you will waist a lot of time. I only recognize a few of the girls as legit and a lot of them are fake or photoshopped to death. Work backwards from good reviews (gpguia) and then go to the photos.

Off the top of my mind, these women could meet your needs for slender. They are well-represented on the internet including many on Twitter. Prices are R300 to 400 (sometimes 250). Brasilian women generally have some pop in their ass no matter how slender.

Sara Muller (very skinny, tall, beauty, some twitter candids).

Rebeca Goya (slender, tall, some twitter candids, anal).

Dominique Bittencourt (nice body, no face shots).

Debora Drummond (hot, little spinner. No holes barred. Face fully exposed on twitter).

Mayara Alencar (an all-star spinner retiring in July at age 21 or 22 - some face shots on twitter. Very firm / spinner ass).

Vivi Ghoular (reports are she's more slender than her photos that emphasize her ass in line with Brazilian tastes. Anal).

Sara and Rebeca are probably the most slender with both European looks and body type.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2045221]As far as PhotoA, I think you will waist a lot of time. I only recognize a few of the girls as legit and a lot of them are fake or photoshopped to death. Work backwards from good reviews (gpguia) and then go to the photos.

Off the top of my mind, these women could meet your needs for slender. They are well-represented on the internet including many on Twitter. Prices are R300 to 400 (sometimes 250). Brasilian women generally have some pop in their ass no matter how slender.

Sara Muller (very skinny, tall, beauty, some twitter candids).

Rebeca Goya (slender, tall, some twitter candids, anal).

Dominique Bittencourt (nice body, no face shots).

Debora Drummond (hot, little spinner. No holes barred. Face fully exposed on twitter).

Mayara Alencar (an all-star spinner retiring in July at age 21 or 22 - some face shots on twitter. Very firm / spinner ass).

Vivi Ghoular (reports are she's more slender than her photos that emphasize her ass in line with Brazilian tastes. Anal).

Sara and Rebeca are probably the most slender with both European looks and body type.[/QUOTE]Thank you Wyatt.

I kinda figured most of the profiles on photoA were either fake or highly edited photos.

Not sure what the angle would be to post a fake ad as it is free to get the girl's number.

I don't use Twitter, but maybe need to try it some time.

What I am really after is finding a girl to my tastes who would also like to hang out and speak to me in Portuguese so I can get better, as well as have some sex. Girls from places like Caserão are too expensive, and ones from places like the Kilt are bimbos.

Going to try Tangerá when I get there in a few weeks.

Will write a report of how it went.

Thanks again for the info.

Lon.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2045266]Thank you Wyatt.

I kinda figured most of the profiles on photoA were either fake or highly edited photos.

Not sure what the angle would be to post a fake ad as it is free to get the girl's number.

I don't use Twitter, but maybe need to try it some time.

What I am really after is finding a girl to my tastes who would also like to hang out and speak to me in Portuguese so I can get better, as well as have some sex.[/QUOTE]Don't think of Photoacompanhantes anymore than anyone thinks of the women on Backpages. The girls or low-rent agencies can post fake photos to their hearts content to lure you in. I said some escort websites want to charge a subscription for you to look at more photos. That is one business model, but not a rule. I can't remember anyone on the Sao Paulo forum (or Rio forum for that matter) recommending a escort photo website. Don't fall for the allusion.

I have to say you keep moving the goalposts. Unless you look like a young Brad Pitt, you are probably going to have a hard time finding a girl in Sao Paulo to hang out with out and have sex with you amongst the girls at Scandallo, Bomboa, etc. Forget the escorts. All the hot girls there are mostly solid pros and while they will show you a good time for the money these girls are in demand. You could get lucky if you screen very carefully at the nightclubs.

I would suggest you contact AltoBomGosto. Contract him to show you around and help you find laid-back girls who will meet you outside the clinica and possibly hang out with you on their off-time. If you are a good guy, make the girls laugh and show them a good time, anything is possible. Too bad, I don't think ABG hosts his famous parties in the winter.

I actually think the vibe in Rio is more conducive to the overnighter, wine, dine and hang out on the beach. This is very possible in Rio if you get establish a connection and get a number from a girl at a terma or prive. Of course, it's a bit of a dance where everybody plays pretend boyfriend-girlfriend, but everyone knows that it's money that makes it all work.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2045608]Don't think of Photoacompanhantes anymore than anyone thinks of the women on Backpages. The girls or low-rent agencies can post fake photos to their hearts content to lure you in. I said some escort websites want to charge a subscription for you to look at more photos. That is one business model, but not a rule. I can't remember anyone on the Sao Paulo forum (or Rio forum for that matter) recommending a escort photo website. Don't fall for the allusion.

I have to say you keep moving the goalposts. Unless you look like a young Brad Pitt, you are probably going to have a hard time finding a girl in Sao Paulo to hang out with out and have sex with you amongst the girls at Scandallo, Bomboa, etc. Forget the escorts. All the hot girls there are mostly solid pros and while they will show you a good time for the money these girls are in demand. You could get lucky if you screen very carefully at the nightclubs.

I would suggest you contact AltoBomGosto. Contract him to show you around and help you find laid-back girls who will meet you outside the clinica and possibly hang out with you on their off-time. If you are a good guy, make the girls laugh and show them a good time, anything is possible. Too bad, I don't think ABG hosts his famous parties in the winter.

I actually think the vibe in Rio is more conducive to the overnighter, wine, dine and hang out on the beach. This is very possible in Rio if you get establish a connection and get a number from a girl at a terma or prive. Of course, it's a bit of a dance where everybody plays pretend boyfriend-girlfriend, but everyone knows that it's money that makes it all work.[/QUOTE]Please PM me, I'll be glad to assit you.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2045969]Who would you recommend for slender girls with big (natural) tits?[/QUOTE]You're really looking in the wrong country. You should be going to Germany, Eastern Europe or Montreal (maybe Buenos Aires). Brazil is a country known more for Jennifer Lopez body types than Eva Mendes types. Even the vaunted blondes from the South of Brasil, seem to have bigger hips and ass than their European counterparts. Think Scarlett Johansson.

If Vivi Ghoular (who I mentioned below), doesn't float your boat, you could check out Yasmin Piovane. She's a pretty blonde active on twitter and highly-rated on gpguia, but she still has a fuller body. You could check-out photos of Marcela Leal (mulatta) and Talita Bonny (blonde). They are two all-star, mature providers who are tall and busty by Brasilian standards. They seem to be in Europe or retired now, but they could return to the SP scene by the time you call.

Perhaps your best bet is to hit the boates (night clubs) and see who turns up. If you follow my advice on how to find a provider on the internet who meets your specs, you also might get lucky in your search.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2046310]I will look at those.

What does "PPMM" mean? I see this in a lot of reviews. Can't find what it means.[/QUOTE]Papai e Mamae (dad and mom), missionary position in english.

Visiting SP alone. I don't speak Portuguese or Spanish and I like young, thin girls. What's the best place to check out while that's American friendly and chill to go alone? Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2032063]IIt depends on your taste. I like the afternoon play, Tamgara is one of the best places.

This week there were 47 girls in the house. Girls for all tastes.

Place don't sell booze but you can get beer from a bar right across the street or bring your own booze. No charge on it. You can seat and relax with the girl.

Yesterday I went with Denise, a red hair caucasuan girl, gaucha, seems a british skool girl, fluent in english, has studied in London, gorgeous girl, nice teen face, lovely big natural brests, nice butt, very GFE.

DFK, BBBJ, CWG, very good performace, likes to receive DATY, and CIM.

Place is under restauration, some rooms are not avaliable. 150 reais = 1 hour, 2 pops, gave her a tip of 50 reais for the BBBJ / CIM.

Tangara is open from 10 am till 10 pm. Mon. Till Sat. Sunday from noon till 8 pm.

If you want to continue your fun go to Casaro, 20 reais, room 30 reais for 1/2 h. Girl has to be negociated, normally 300 reias for 1/2 hour. Open from 11 pm till 4 am.Much better girls selection than LS.

For more details please PM me.

ABG.[/QUOTE]

How much is Tangara all in when you leave for half hour?

[QUOTE=DoMat;2026969]Kiran,

I have never done an hour where 2 pops wasn't expected or delivered. Unless there wasn't enough time left. Never negotiated beforehand.

Onto a previous discussion.

If you are looking for top "Scandello" type girls you can go to arboreo or something like that which is right next to Enjoy. Every girl there would be a top 10% girl at Scandello from my experience (been there twice). 260 or 280 for the hour. Only about 5-7 girls there.

Top 10% is what we should be discussing because the other 90% can be found at the other clinics. Enjoy has some top 20%.

On my trips to SP I have found that Tangara is easily the best value in the area.

Personally I always prefer Tangara for the atmosphere, my favorite girls and almost always great service.[/QUOTE]

Very helpful posts Wyatt.

Maybe it is a bit wishful thinking on my part to want to find a girl who would also hang out with me.

But I know I would still be paying her for the time we hung out.

I did meet a girl at the Kilt two years ago when I was going to SP regularly and we did hang out.

Paid her 700 reis for about 4-5 hours of her time that would include dinner, drinks and then sex.

She has since left SP. But it is possible.

I will be going to SP once to twice a month on business for the next 4 months, and would love to find.

Another girl like the one I met at the Kilt.

As to the goalposts, they are still the same, and that's shagging.

Will post a report after my next trip next weekend.

Going to def try Tangará.

Went to Maruna (I think that was how it was spelled), but that was two years ago and I have not seen anyone mention it here so maybe it has closed.

As to the Kilt, typical titty bar, kinda rundown, mostly Asian foreigners, 10 or so really bored looking girls hanging around waiting for a guy to buy them a drink.

Don't sit at a table, just sit at the bar as the price for everything goes up like double at a table.

If you like skimpy dressed bimbos, its full of them.

I did meet that girl there, so it isn't all bad. But I have not been to Photo Cafe or any of the other higher end places you guys have mentioned.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2045608]Don't think of Photoacompanhantes anymore than anyone thinks of the women on Backpages. The girls or low-rent agencies can post fake photos to their hearts content to lure you in. I said some escort websites want to charge a subscription for you to look at more photos. That is one business model, but not a rule. I can't remember anyone on the Sao Paulo forum (or Rio forum for that matter) recommending a escort photo website. Don't fall for the allusion.

I have to say you keep moving the goalposts. Unless you look like a young Brad Pitt, you are probably going to have a hard time finding a girl in Sao Paulo to hang out with out and have sex with you amongst the girls at Scandallo, Bomboa, etc. Forget the escorts. All the hot girls there are mostly solid pros and while they will show you a good time for the money these girls are in demand. You could get lucky if you screen very carefully at the nightclubs..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChiMonger;2046829]How much is Tangara all in when you leave for half hour?[/QUOTE]Tangara is 200 reais 1/2 hour, one pop andn 150 reais 1 hour, 2 pops.

ABG.

Saturday I did a great dupla with Gii and Stellinha. Girls had sex among them and with ne, I came with each ot them. BBBJ / CIM; 150 reais each girl = one hour.

ABG.

Gentlemen,

I will be visiting Sao Paulo for the first time after 2 weeks for 1 week.

1) Can any one point me to any complete guide on Sao Paulo?

2) Are there any ordinary nightclubs in Sao Paulo with freelancers to take out for whole night LT?

3) are luxury hotels guest friendly or my only option will be apartments / motels?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=AndyKhan;2047123]Gentlemen,

I will be visiting Sao Paulo for the first time after 2 weeks for 1 week.

1) Can any one point me to any complete guide on Sao Paulo?

2) Are there any ordinary nightclubs in Sao Paulo with freelancers to take out for whole night LT?

3) are luxury hotels guest friendly or my only option will be apartments / motels?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Very, very, very few people are going to respond positively to your post. That's because your questions demonstrate that you haven't done your homework. You need to RTFF first so that you can ask informed questions. I know there's a lot here to wade through. What I always advise people to do is to read the Reports of Distinction first. You're going to learn so much by doing that. Read the ROD starting with the most recent ones first, and then go back even a couple of years. After you do that, then that's when you can come in here asking informed questions. Only then will people be willing to enthusiastically help you. So what are you waiting for? Get to reading man!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2047014]Tangara is 200 reais 1/2 hour, one pop andn 150 reais 1 hour, 2 pops.

ABG.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2045752]Please PM me, I'll be glad to assit you.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Will try to PM, just have to figure it out.

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[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2047018]Saturday I did a great dupla with Gii and Stellinha. Girls had sex among them and with ne, I came with each ot them. BBBJ / CIM; 150 reais each girl = one hour.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Hi Alto,

I will be in Sampa this Sunday, plan to hit up Tangara Sunday afternoon or Monday if they are not open Sunday.

Sounds like it is everyone's favorite clinica.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2047220]Hi Alto,

I will be in Sampa this Sunday, plan to hit up Tangara Sunday afternoon or Monday if they are not open Sunday.

Sounds like it is everyone's favorite clinica.[/QUOTE]Tangara will be open Sunday from noon till 8 PM. I plan to be there.

Please PM me for details.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AndyKhan;2047123]Gentlemen,

I will be visiting Sao Paulo for the first time after 2 weeks for 1 week.[/QUOTE]You made a similar post in another thread that would have you in The Philippines around the same time. Hmmm?

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[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2047018]Saturday I did a great dupla with Gii and Stellinha. Girls had sex among them and with me, I came with each of them. BBBJ / CIM; 150 reais each girl = one hour.

ABG.[/QUOTE]TANGARA will be open tomorrow from 10 AM till 10 PM.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2047018]Saturday I did a great dupla with Gii and Stellinha. Girls had sex among them and with ne, I came with each ot them. BBBJ / CIM; 150 reais each girl = one hour.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Dupla 45 minutes with 2 girls = 200 reais.

PM me for details.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2047549]Tangara will be open Sunday from noon till 8 PM. I plan to be there.

Please PM me for details.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Tangara is open and will close at 10 PM.

I plan to be there around 2 PM.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2046983]Very helpful posts Wyatt.

Maybe it is a bit wishful thinking on my part to want to find a girl who would also hang out with me.

But I know I would still be paying her for the time we hung out.

I did meet a girl at the Kilt two years ago when I was going to SP regularly and we did hang out.

Paid her 700 reis for about 4-5 hours of her time that would include dinner, drinks and then sex.

She has since left SP. But it is possible.

I will be going to SP once to twice a month on business for the next 4 months, and would love to find.

Another girl like the one I met at the Kilt.

As to the goalposts, they are still the same, and that's shagging.

Will post a report after my next trip next weekend.

Going to def try Tangar.

Went to Maruna (I think that was how it was spelled), but that was two years ago and I have not seen anyone mention it here so maybe it has closed.

As to the Kilt, typical titty bar, kinda rundown, mostly Asian foreigners, 10 or so really bored looking girls hanging around waiting for a guy to buy them a drink.

Don't sit at a table, just sit at the bar as the price for everything goes up like double at a table.

If you like skimpy dressed bimbos, its full of them.

I did meet that girl there, so it isn't all bad. But I have not been to Photo Cafe or any of the other higher end places you guys have mentioned.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean to be pessimistic about finding programa girls to have sex and hangout. It's just that you went from asking about escorts to hanging out with providers. I'm sure if you screen the club girls you can find one who isn't going to run out the door as soon as you've completed sex. Some of the escorts might be agreeable to dinner afterwards if you give off a good vibe and she's not busy. Some of them post discounted all-night rates so money obviously can also buy anything.

Truthfully, I have no experience hanging out with SP providers because I've always had limited free time there. Rio has hardened some, but some of the girls there seem to be agreeable to hanging out if they're having fun, you treat them right and without going overboard you find a way to compensate them a bit. I once had a session with a girl at 4 x4. We had a great time sitting and talking before and after the session. I got her phone number. I later took her to Buzios over the weekend and she was very happy. I was very happy. I of course gave her some money when we got back to Rio. Funny thing, she dressed like an average girl in Buzios, she was also very nice and courteous to people and our age difference (She was 25. I was late 30's.) was not that pronounced for anyone to raise eyebrows. Many of these girls have less than glamorous lives and they like a break from the routine with a guy that treats them right.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2048553]I didn't mean to be pessimistic about finding programa girls to have sex and hangout. It's just that you went from asking about escorts to hanging out with providers. I'm sure if you screen the club girls you can find one who isn't going to run out the door as soon as you've completed sex. Some of the escorts might be agreeable to dinner afterwards if you give off a good vibe and she's not busy. Some of them post discounted all-night rates so money obviously can also buy anything.

Truthfully, I have no experience hanging out with SP providers because I've always had limited free time there. Rio has hardened some, but some of the girls there seem to be agreeable to hanging out if they're having fun, you treat them right and without going overboard you find a way to compensate them a bit. I once had a session with a girl at 4 x4. We had a great time sitting and talking before and after the session. I got her phone number. I later took her to Buzios over the weekend and she was very happy. I was very happy. I of course gave her some money when we got back to Rio. Funny thing, she dressed like an average girl in Buzios, she was also very nice and courteous to people and our age difference (She was 25. I was late 30's.) was not that pronounced for anyone to raise eyebrows. Many of these girls have less than glamorous lives and they like a break from the routine with a guy that treats them right.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the informative reply.

I did not feel you were being pessimistic, just realistic as what I am looking for is a bit rare I think.

Yes, these girls have hard lives, and I try to be as nice and generous with them as possible.

If I had the means I would give them thousands of reis each time.

I am on the cusp of being fluent in Portuguese and have an actual tutor I meet with when there for work.

But it only goes so far. Seeing a sexy girl for dinner and drinks and speaking for 3 hours would really help me, help her, and if we romped for an hour all the better.

I will post a report after this weekend as to how things went.

I plan on Tangara Sunday afternoon and if I have the energy, Casarão or similar late night like around 11.

Maybe we will cross paths someday.

Lonny.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2048553]I didn't mean to be pessimistic about finding programa girls to have sex and hangout. It's just that you went from asking about escorts to hanging out with providers. I'm sure if you screen the club girls you can find one who isn't going to run out the door as soon as you've completed sex. Some of the escorts might be agreeable to dinner afterwards if you give off a good vibe and she's not busy. Some of them post discounted all-night rates so money obviously can also buy anything.

Truthfully, I have no experience hanging out with SP providers because I've always had limited free time there. Rio has hardened some, but some of the girls there seem to be agreeable to hanging out if they're having fun, you treat them right and without going overboard you find a way to compensate them a bit. I once had a session with a girl at 4 x4. We had a great time sitting and talking before and after the session. I got her phone number. I later took her to Buzios over the weekend and she was very happy. I was very happy. I of course gave her some money when we got back to Rio. Funny thing, she dressed like an average girl in Buzios, she was also very nice and courteous to people and our age difference (She was 25. I was late 30's.) was not that pronounced for anyone to raise eyebrows. Many of these girls have less than glamorous lives and they like a break from the routine with a guy that treats them right.[/QUOTE]I've met many in both SP and Rio that like hangin out.

If you're cool, good vibe, good chemistry, etc, and of course you speak the language, it's not that dificult really.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2048662]I've met many in both SP and Rio that like hangin out.

If you're cool, good vibe, good chemistry, etc, and of course you speak the language, it's not that dificult really.[/QUOTE]Going to try this weekend to see if the girl I go with at Tangara is receptive to hanging out at a later date.

Will post my experience.

Thanks for the encouragement.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2048486]Tangara is open and will close at 10 PM.

I plan to be there around 2 PM.

ABG.[/QUOTE]I went to Tangara yesterday afternoon, 26 girls in the house, some speak good English, Alice Morena and Priscilla do.

I went with Leila, a nice brunette, small but nice tits and butt, stayed one hour = 150 reais, gave her more 50 reais tip for BBBJ / CIM.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2048819]I went to Tangara yesterday afternoon, 26 girls in the house, some speak good English, Alice Morena and Priscilla do.

I went with Leila, a nice brunette, small but nice tits and butt, stayed one hour = 150 reais, gave her more 50 reais tip for BBBJ / CIM.

ABG.[/QUOTE]I went to Tangara today, arrived at 5 PM.

I went again with Leila, who I recommended in my previous TD above.

Excellent girl,

ABG.

Went there yesterday, Sunday at 5. Met ABG there, great guy, very knowledgeable.

First time there for me. It is only the second clinica I have been to, so can only compare it to Miruna where I went two years ago.

Tangará is much bigger than Miruna and in a nicer neighbourhood. They don't have any liquor, but you can byob if you want. ABG said there is a bar across the street you can buy liquor to go, very convenient.

But it was Sunday, and everything was closed.

It was full of guys, and not many available girls. I think Sunday at 5 is not a good time to be there unless you had an appointment with a specific girl. I met about 5 girls, none did it for me. When ABG went with Leila I left.

Went to Vila Madelena Samba dancing, then didn't have the energy to monger, it had been a long day.

Today, against everyone's advice, I tried Photoacompananhantes.

I searched for only Jardins area as my hotel is there and I only had a few hours.

First girl I called did not answer. Plan be was Clara Mel, very hot brunette, at least in her pics.

She answered right on. Said she was available and we set a time.

I arrived punctual, and had to check in at the front desk. Clara then came down to meet me in the lobby.

She is tall, like 1,70, and a bit heavier than in her pics. But pretty face and still not fat, still within my strike zone.

We went up, nice studio, very clean and organized. Building is nice too.

Right away DFK, much foreplay, then undressed fully and hit the bed.

She is a bit heavier than I prefer, but still toned body, be to see cups with small nipples.

BBBJ, ate at the why, then MMPP and finished doggy.

Afterwards we cuddled and small chatted until my hour was up.

She asks for $250, I gave her 300. Very GFE, good kisser and really sweet.

I may not return, but that is because if me not her, she was wonderful.

So, I may have just been lucky, but I will try Photoa again when I return in two weeks.

May give Tangará another shot, but I was kinda not feeling the place, although the guys working there seemed cool.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2050046]Went there yesterday, Sunday at 5. Met ABG there, great guy, very knowledgeable.

First time there for me. It is only the second clinica I have been to, so can only compare it to Miruna where I went two years ago.

Tangar is much bigger than Miruna and in a nicer neighbourhood. They don't have any liquor, but you can byob if you want. ABG said there is a bar across the street you can buy liquor to go, very convenient.

But it was Sunday, and everything was closed.

It was full of guys, and not many available girls. I think Sunday at 5 is not a good time to be there unless you had an appointment with a specific girl. I met about 5 girls, none did it for me. When ABG went with Leila I left....[/QUOTE]Nice report. Last Sunday was not the norm at Tangara. Currently, the two best girls in the house are Anitta and.

Leticia. Both are really tight with good deep-throat skills. Bbjcim for an extra 50 brl. Both have great asses. One is a little shorter than the other. Both provide GFE, and if they like you they will smoke you out. Anitta tends to get there by noon. Leticia rolls in about 3-3:30. Both get busy, and some guys make a reservation. Worst case, plan on hanging out for an hour and use the house Wi-Fi. Both girls will visit your hotel for 250/ HR. Get their whatsapp when you session with them at Tangara.

If you can play at night and have a little extra money, try Casarao. You can typically find a 100+ girls there. Or if you have an extra usd $300-400 for a quality night out, try Scandallo. Upper-class mongering in a safe environment.

How long is your stay?

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2050129]Nice report. Last Sunday was not the norm at Tangara. Currently, the two best girls in the house are Anitta and.

Leticia. Both are really tight with good deep-throat skills. Bbjcim for an extra 50 brl. Both have great asses. One is a little shorter than the other. Both provide GFE, and if they like you they will smoke you out. Anitta tends to get there by noon. Leticia rolls in about 3-3:30. Both get busy, and some guys make a reservation. Worst case, plan on hanging out for an hour and use the house Wi-Fi. Both girls will visit your hotel for 250/ HR. Get their whatsapp when you session with them at Tangara.

If you can play at night and have a little extra money, try Casarao. You can typically find a 100+ girls there. Or if you have an extra usd $300-400 for a quality night out, try Scandallo. Upper-class mongering in a safe environment.

How long is your stay?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info LarryD.

I am usually only there for two days one night.

Although short trip, that night is free. I plan to visit one of the upscale baites like Casarão at some point.

Will be back end of the month ready to romp.

Lon.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2050129]Nice report. Last Sunday was not the norm at Tangara. Currently, the two best girls in the house are Anitta and.

Leticia. Both are really tight with good deep-throat skills. Bbjcim for an extra 50 brl. Both have great asses. One is a little shorter than the other. Both provide GFE, and if they like you they will smoke you out. Anitta tends to get there by noon. Leticia rolls in about 3-3:30. Both get busy, and some guys make a reservation. Worst case, plan on hanging out for an hour and use the house Wi-Fi. Both girls will visit your hotel for 250/ HR. Get their whatsapp when you session with them at Tangara.

If you can play at night and have a little extra money, try Casarao. You can typically find a 100+ girls there. Or if you have an extra usd $300-400 for a quality night out, try Scandallo. Upper-class mongering in a safe environment.

How long is your stay?[/QUOTE]Larry you're right to list Anita and Leticia as great performers. I have had TD with them several times. But you forgot two gems who speak English, Alice and Priscilla, both GFE, DFK, DATY and BBBJTC, unfortunately both were busy when I arrived. So I decided to go with Leila, another marvilous girl.

The secret of this place is to arrive early, before 4 PM, so you will have a lineup of 30, maybe 40 ladies on parade.

ABG.

Been a few days since I used that site, so a bit of time to reflect on it.

I am beginning to think the girl I met was not the same as the girl in the pics.

The girl in the pics is a 10, although her face is blurred. She also does not have tattoos and her hair is a different color.

Now that can be explained by the pics being older and photoshopped, her subsequently getting a tat and girls constantly change their hair color.

But she mentioned something that I had forgotten; that she actually did not live there, but with her folks and only used that apartment for "work" during the day.

The place was definitely an apartment and not some flat that was being used for prostitution as someone, def a chick lived there, just too fleshed out to be a brothel.

Interesting concept for a person with a 8-5 gig to rent out the place for sex and take a cut.

So the girl I met lives at home, and prob means she is pretty young, and she was, so her boby could not have changed that much. And that she "rented" the place means she is a temp and prob hasn't done that long enough to go and invest the time and money for professional photos.

So my gut feeling is it was not the same person.

But if the girl in the pics was a Ferrari, the girl I met was a 6 series BMW.

Not a Ferrari, but still a damn good ride!

Going to try another one at the end of the month.

So far it has been one bad experience and one good one, so got to try it again to compare.

Will let why'all know how it goes.

Lonny.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2045176]Here is Darlene in Nov 2016 at my apartment in Rio.[/QUOTE]Great pictures Rhasta, she is a true legend.

Any specific girl (s) you would recommend with a body like this?

[URL]https://static.fucktat.com/media/38598/conversions/thumb_big.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=Lonster;2051191]Been a few days since I used that site, so a bit of time to reflect on it.

I am beginning to think the girl I met was not the same as the girl in the pics.

The girl in the pics is a 10, although her face is blurred. She also does not have tattoos and her hair is a different color.

Now that can be explained by the pics being older and photoshopped, her subsequently getting a tat and girls constantly change their hair color.

But she mentioned something that I had forgotten; that she actually did not live there, but with her folks and only used that apartment for "work" during the day.

The place was definitely an apartment and not some flat that was being used for prostitution as someone, def a chick lived there, just too fleshed out to be a brothel.

Interesting concept for a person with a 8-5 gig to rent out the place for sex and take a cut..[/QUOTE]I did a search on the phone # of that Clara Mel, aka Carol Vasconcelos. She has reviews dating to 2010 and lists age as 26. She has 80 positive reviews and 4 negative. She also has a twitter feed. I suggest you look at her twitter feed and you can see her recent unphotoshopped photos there. I suspect there was no bait and switch involved. Other than the fact that she has probably gained some weight and lost some tone. Maybe the photos in her ad are older or just heavily photoshopped, they are clearly pro fotos. This is the typical experience of meeting a long time pro with pro photos. That don't show face. IMO the face imagined is always better than the real face, add a few pounds, a little belly, pudgier legs and the goddess in the add becomes a MILF.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2051699]Any specific girl (s) you would recommend with a body like this?

[URL]https://static.fucktat.com/media/38598/conversions/thumb_big.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]If you post a face shot from the Internet, we might be able to locate exactly what you are seeking. Does the hair color matter? Do you require the girl speaks some English. Age? Please be more specific.

Guys, let's get the work on this.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2051959]If you post a face shot from the Internet, we might be able to locate exactly what you are seeking. Does the hair color matter? Do you require the girl speaks some English. Age? Please be more specific.

Guys, let's get the work on this.[/QUOTE]Nothing particular about her hair or face. The pornstar in the picture is Rose Monroe. Specifically I was looking for types of girls with slimmish waists and round asses like hers (in Sao Paulo).

Another questions (general to forum):

For girls who meet you at hotels (not at their flat), do the girls book the room and you pay them along with their rate? Or do you book the room and the girl meets you there?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2051959]If you post a face shot from the Internet, we might be able to locate exactly what you are seeking. Does the hair color matter? Do you require the girl speaks some English. Age? Please be more specific.

Guys, let's get the work on this.[/QUOTE]Too easy. Just google she has been in the business for a while. Bangbros, Brazzers, Realitykings or pornhub for her work.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video27467151/rose_monroe_returns_to_bangbros_for_anal_sex_ap15956_[/URL]

Hi Guys,

Here is the link to a Sao Paulo map, with most of the places discussed here and some more. Had to take it down for editing.

[URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oFDTeu9h96DyKCWCG7o1R6rr530&usp=sharing[/URL]

[QUOTE=Safado69;2051978]Too easy. Just google she has been in the business for a while. Bangbros, Brazzers, Realitykings or pornhub for her work.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video27467151/rose_monroe_returns_to_bangbros_for_anal_sex_ap15956_[/URL][/QUOTE]This girl looks close enough.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/adoro-atender-super-bem-meu-estilo-e-namoradinha-safada-id-fw52u[/URL]

I went there around 3 pm, the place packed with mongers, the lineup was a mess, even the girls were confused.

The lady at the front desk, who would be the one to organize de girls parade, was more interested in chatting with some friends.

The girls are of a lower level, nothing compared with a year ago.

And the price of 200 reais is far too expensive to pay.

I use to be a frequent customer of this place but now I don't recommend it anymore.

ABG.

I went there yesterday before going to Brooklin searching for my old friend Jessica, to my deception, she's not working there anymore.

I was the only customer in the house, one girl unfriendly available.

The place is simply not worth visiting anymore.

ABG.

Yesterday I went early to Tangara. Arrived there at 1 pm, I was the second customer in the house. About 12 girls were available, among them the legendary Leticia (fantastic BBBJ / CIM) and her friend Giselle, a 21 YO morena jambo (very light tanned mulata).

Giselle is very GFE, has an outgoing character, excellent DFK, fantastic BBBJ, 1 h. 150 reais + 50 for the BBBJ / CIM.

But beware! Come early, especially on Saturdays and Sundays, place gets over crowded after 4 pm.

Have fun!

ABG.

To complete my tour I went to VW.

Very well received by Bella, the manager, she asked the girls to line up, only 4 girls available, none of them caught my eyes.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2052345]Who would you recommend for a girl similar to this one? Online agency, clinica, or wherever?

[URL]http://i.imgur.com/QCtNF7D.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]I was being sarcastic below about helping you find girls who meet your exact specifications. I forgot American sarcasm doesn't translate across all cultures.

I know I don't just speak for myself. Instead of doing on-line shopping of random women's photos and videos and asking us if we know them or can find a woman similar to the photo, you should buy an airline ticket to Brazil and do some research as many of us have described many times on this site.

May I ask when does your school start up again?

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2052245]Yesterday I went early to Tangara. Arrived there at 1 pm, I was the second customer in the house. About 12 girls were available, among them the legendary Leticia (fantastic BBBJ / CIM) and her friend Giselle, a 21 YO morena jambo (very light tanned mulata).

Giselle is very GFE, has an outgoing character, excellent DFK, fantastic BBBJ, 1 h. 150 reais + 50 for the BBBJ / CIM.

But beware! Come early, especially on Saturdays and Sundays, place gets over crowded after 4 pm.

Have fun!

ABG.[/QUOTE]I went to Tangara yesterday, met some ISG members there, there were more than 20 girls available when I arrived at 1:30 pm.

Did the first TD with Tati, small mulatinha, very nice body. GFE, DFK, BBBJ & CIM. 50 reais for the extra work.

Second round was done with Luana Baiana, tlall and slimm mulata, small tits and small Butt. GFE, DFK, BBBJ & CIM. 50 reais extra.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2051929]I did a search on the phone # of that Clara Mel, aka Carol Vasconcelos. She has reviews dating to 2010 and lists age as 26. She has 80 positive reviews and 4 negative. She also has a twitter feed. I suggest you look at her twitter feed and you can see her recent unphotoshopped photos there. I suspect there was no bait and switch involved. Other than the fact that she has probably gained some weight and lost some tone. Maybe the photos in her ad are older or just heavily photoshopped, they are clearly pro fotos. This is the typical experience of meeting a long time pro with pro photos. That don't show face. IMO the face imagined is always better than the real face, add a few pounds, a little belly, pudgier legs and the goddess in the add becomes a MILF.[/QUOTE]Prob true.

She was still great, was very happy with the experience.

Will try again this weekend.

Miruna yesterday, some 15 girls in house, Vanessa is top, she must be 28, nice face, big natural boobs, big butt, brunette.

DFK, DATY, BBBJ & CIM.

Speaks good english

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2053081]Miruna yesterday, some 15 girls in house, Vanessa is top, she must be 28, nice face, big natural boobs, big butt, brunette.

DFK, DATY, BBBJ & CIM.

Speaks good english

ABG.[/QUOTE]Av. Miruna 644 near Congonhas airport.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2052934]Prob true.

She was still great, was very happy with the experience.

Will try again this weekend.[/QUOTE]Lonster, it's always great to hear someone had a good time. It's always a good idea to run the phone number and the name like Rovnak did on the popular local review board. You can avoid the big scammers. They are out there.

I'm very fussy about face (not necessarily age) so I like to know several people think she has a rosto lindo.

After a visit to Miruna, I and my friend went to Tangara, he did four hands with Anita and Stefani, Very good looking girls, rostos muito bonitos, GFE, DFK, BBBJ.

I went again with Luana, a nice looking girl from Bahia, very slender, GFE, DFK, BBBJ, gave her more 50 reais for the CIM!

After my business trip booked last month, I took lots of time on study of SP scene here for like 150 pp reading.

In my past mongering exp, I always prefer to in / out call escort which is more discreet. However escort is not quite easy in SP like other US, Europe or Asia countries I used to be.

In the end I decided to go Bomboa alone.

Atmosphere is good in Bomboa and English-speaking friendly. However don't try sushi if you have had sushi in west coast of US or east Asia. I thought it would be good since that lots of Japanese live here, however, I had to say the quality is even less that supermarket level of Japan.

Girls are great. At least for me, I think 80% of them in Bomboa is worth to bang. In the end I left with a brunette speaking well English. I could rate the session as 7 pts. Standard GFE exp but no surprise. Dmg is 250+165+500=915. It's similar to London, Paris and US price. Anyway it's worth to go.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2053726]Lonster, it's always great to hear someone had a good time. It's always a good idea to run the phone number and the name like Rovnak did on the popular local review board. You can avoid the big scammers. They are out there.

I'm very fussy about face (not necessarily age) so I like to know several people think she has a rosto lindo.[/QUOTE]Yes, info is a mongers best friend.

OK, so flight was late and I did bot get in until 2 pm. After taking a nap I did not have time to hit up Tangará.

Only had a few hours before having to go to dinner with my annoying coworkers who are terrified of SP.

So, used photoA again. Searched just Jardins, called Bianca.

She is one of many Biancas, but search just Jardins and she is the thin brunette with some tats.

She was available right then, set it up and we met at her "flat" near my hotel on Campanas.

Her fotos were 100% accurate to her in person, only diff was she had a few more tats.

She answered the door basically naked.

No foreplay, I tried kissing her and she was not very receptive. Just wanted my clothes if so we could get going.

BBBJ, a bit of fondling then rubber and shagging. Standard routine mmpp, doggy, then a quick break as she needed lube, back to doggy then done.

Not much GFE, but she was pleasant. She then smoked half a joint and got much more loving and we had a bit of afterglow, which I crave.

I was out the door in 40 min, but paid her the full hour plus 50 are extra.

Won't bag on her as I was still pretty sexy, but won't repeat either. I need a bit more affection than she was willing to give.

Hope to hit up Tangara tomorrow.

Lonny.

How much business do you guys think the average pro girl gets?

As in how many Johns a girl sees in a day.

A fellow monger, who is a mainstay to the Kilt believes those girls at least rarely get taken home by Johns.

Do you think girls at boates or places like the Kilt have more or less clients than girls on PhotoA or other sites like backpage?

I was in Hong Kong about 4 months ago and tried a walkup. Those girls get fucked repeatedly during a shift as it was just hoards of guys roaming the floors. It was a bit creepy actually. The walku was called the Fuji Building, well know walk-up that some Aussi told me about I spoke to at a bar.

Just wondering how much milage is being put on these girls in the various venues they operate in.

Lon.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2051929]I did a search on the phone # of that Clara Mel, aka Carol Vasconcelos. She has reviews dating to 2010 and lists age as 26. She has 80 positive reviews and 4 negative. She also has a twitter feed. I suggest you look at her twitter feed and you can see her recent unphotoshopped photos there. I suspect there was no bait and switch involved. Other than the fact that she has probably gained some weight and lost some tone. Maybe the photos in her ad are older or just heavily photoshopped, they are clearly pro fotos. This is the typical experience of meeting a long time pro with pro photos. That don't show face. IMO the face imagined is always better than the real face, add a few pounds, a little belly, pudgier legs and the goddess in the add becomes a MILF.[/QUOTE]Rovnak,

Just curious what search you used to find out that info on her?

Is there a way to just type a number and it's owners details show up?

Thanks,

Lonny.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2053726]Lonster, it's always great to hear someone had a good time. It's always a good idea to run the phone number and the name like Rovnak did on the popular local review board. You can avoid the big scammers. They are out there.

I'm very fussy about face (not necessarily age) so I like to know several people think she has a rosto lindo.[/QUOTE]Hey Wyatt,

I am sure there are scams, but I am still trying to find the angle someone could be using to try and run a scam on PhotoA.

Since the mongers can get the contact info for the girl for free, how would the scammers make money?

I have now sessioned with two girls and I don't see anyway a scam could work unless the setup is designed to later blackmail the John. These girls all seem to be in buildings that you must show ID at the front desk before getting let up to the flats. This last one made a photocopy of my Drivers Lic which has my name, home address etc. I guess they could find out if the guy was married and then try to blackmail him, but that seems kinda expensive and time consuming to set up a trap like that where prob most of the guys are not married, or would have the money to pay.

What am I missing?

I plan to go to Sao Paulo in few weeks. I don't know Sao Paulo, I only went there once some months ago. I only stayed there 10 days. I only know Rio de Janeiro and Porto Alegre very well.

What is the best location to rent an apartment next to most clubs. Very easy to take the subway, and use transport public transports.

The best clubs to get Japanese Brazilians and European Brazilians. I went to some clubs in Sao Paulo (like Zeus).

Many people talk about Tangara here, there are only mulatas and blacks in Tangara? There are some girls of European descent. (German, Italian etc).

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2054763]Hey Wyatt,

I am sure there are scams, but I am still trying to find the angle someone could be using to try and run a scam on PhotoA.

Since the mongers can get the contact info for the girl for free, how would the scammers make money?

I have now sessioned with two girls and I don't see anyway a scam could work unless the setup is designed to later blackmail the John. These girls all seem to be in buildings that you must show ID at the front desk before getting let up to the flats. This last one made a photocopy of my Drivers Lic which has my name, home address etc. I guess they could find out if the guy was married and then try to blackmail him, but that seems kinda expensive and time consuming to set up a trap like that where prob most of the guys are not married, or would have the money to pay.

What am I missing?[/QUOTE]Scam might be too strong a word. I'm basically talking about bad experiences with women who don't do what they promise, have a shitty attitude, don't look like the girl in the photos and perhaps even steal stuff from your hotel room or apartment. These stories are here and all over the review boards. I guess it's the risk of doing business for guys who like escorts.

A lot of guys here on ISG absolutely don't like booking escorts for those reasons and they like the thrill of seeing a selection of girls in person. I'm totally cool with SP escorts. I just prefer using Gpguia for recommendations. I've seen many a beautiful young girl's photos pop up on a Sao Paulo escort site where sure enough she gets one or two very bad reviews for fake photos and / or shitty service over a couple months. Then she disappears. I presume she made a bit of cash over a couple months and then the bad reviews basically put her out of business with the locals. She might actually turn up again with a new name, new photos and a new number. The review board will torch her as soon as someone figures it out.

You've had good success with PhotoAcompanhantes so roll with it.

I plan to do my first visit to So Paulo in a couple of months. I have booked an apartment in Baixo Augusta. Very close to Casarao, Kilt and a couple of other boates. Also seems to be one of the best areas for regular bars and nightlife. A couple of metro stations and shopping mall in the area. Very close to Centro. Only downside I can see is Moema with the clinicas is a little distant. But I'd rather be close to the night spots than the daytime joints.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2054781]I plan to go to Sao Paulo in few weeks. I don't know Sao Paulo, I only went there once some months ago. I only stayed there 10 days. I only know Rio de Janeiro and Porto Alegre very well.

What is the best location to rent an apartment next to most clubs. Very easy to take the subway, and use transport public transports.

The best clubs to get Japanese Brazilians and European Brazilians. I went to some clubs in Sao Paulo (like Zeus).

Many people talk about Tangara here, there are only mulatas and blacks in Tangara? There are some girls of European descent. (German, Italian etc).

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Komo753;2054781]I plan to go to Sao Paulo in few weeks. I don't know Sao Paulo, I only went there once some months ago. I only stayed there 10 days. I only know Rio de Janeiro and Porto Alegre very well.

What is the best location to rent an apartment next to most clubs. Very easy to take the subway, and use transport public transports.

The best clubs to get Japanese Brazilians and European Brazilians. I went to some clubs in Sao Paulo (like Zeus).

Many people talk about Tangara here, there are only mulatas and blacks in Tangara? There are some girls of European descent. (German, Italian etc).

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Most girls at Tangara are not mulatas, there are girls all over Brazil. Yeterday I was there with clients, the house had a line up of 36 girls.

ABG.

Can someone clarify who usually pays for the hotel? You or the girl (and you give her the money back + her rate)?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;2055099]I plan to do my first visit to So Paulo in a couple of months. I have booked an apartment in Baixo Augusta. Very close to Casarao, Kilt and a couple of other boates. Also seems to be one of the best areas for regular bars and nightlife. A couple of metro stations and shopping mall in the area. Very close to Centro. Only downside I can see is Moema with the clinicas is a little distant. But I'd rather be close to the night spots than the daytime joints.[/QUOTE]How is the Baixo Augusta area for safety particularly at night? I know the area has been improving the last several years.

Most visitors seem to stay in the areas South and taxi / uber at night.

No idea really as it will be my first visit in SP. From what I've read it is supposed to be a lot safer in recent years. Will stay pretty close to Avenida Paulista. Worst case scenario I'll go by uber which is no problem. Still seems like a good location being close to Centro / Metro / Casarao. Will report back in October.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2055204]How is the Baixo Augusta area for safety particularly at night? I know the area has been improving the last several years.

Most visitors seem to stay in the areas South and taxi / uber at night.[/QUOTE]

I am planning to visit Sao Paulo or rio in September, and I am hoping that I can find girls that is as pretty as this 2 or better, and also that kind of body type. Could anyone help me answer my question, if I can find girls that is pretty and body type at clinicas, nightclubs etc? The rate to meet these girls are very expensive, but they just look so good. Thanks for the help.

[URL]http://misskennedynicole.com/mobile/[/URL]

[URL]http://taramichellevip.com/mobile/[/URL]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2055204]How is the Baixo Augusta area for safety particularly at night? I know the area has been improving the last several years.

Most visitors seem to stay in the areas South and taxi / uber at night.[/QUOTE]I've been living close to there. As long as there are people about you should be fine. Some addicts and street walkers in the area, so not the best part of town. The food options near Kilt aren't that great, but there is a top notch grocery nearby.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2055249]I am planning to visit Sao Paulo or rio in September, and I am hoping that I can find girls that is as pretty as this 2 or better, and also that kind of body type. Could anyone help me answer my question, if I can find girls that is pretty and body type at clinicas, nightclubs etc? The rate to meet these girls are very expensive, but they just look so good. Thanks for the help.

[URL]http://misskennedynicole.com/mobile/[/URL]

[URL]http://taramichellevip.com/mobile/[/URL][/QUOTE]I think you will find that most girls on [URL]Clubmodel.com.br[/URL] look like that.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2054979]Scam might be too strong a word. I'm basically talking about bad experiences with women who don't do what they promise, have a shitty attitude, don't look like the girl in the photos and perhaps even steal stuff from your hotel room or apartment. These stories are here and all over the review boards. I guess it's the risk of doing business for guys who like escorts.

A lot of guys here on ISG absolutely don't like booking escorts for those reasons and they like the thrill of seeing a selection of girls in person. I'm totally cool with SP escorts. I just prefer using Gpguia for recommendations. I've seen many a beautiful young girl's photos pop up on a Sao Paulo escort site where sure enough she gets one or two very bad reviews for fake photos and / or shitty service over a couple months. Then she disappears. I presume she made a bit of cash over a couple months and then the bad reviews basically put her out of business with the locals. She might actually turn up again with a new name, new photos and a new number. The review board will torch her as soon as someone figures it out.

You've had good success with PhotoAcompanhantes so roll with it.[/QUOTE]Thanks Wyatt.

Good idea to crosscheck a girl for reviews, will do that next time.

Since I am only there one night when I go for work limits me. I just don't have the time to do the lineup thing, which I agree is thrilling. So a webgirl maximizes my time. But has the downfall of encountering a fake photo girl.

[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;2055099]I plan to do my first visit to So Paulo in a couple of months. I have booked an apartment in Baixo Augusta. Very close to Casarao, Kilt and a couple of other boates. Also seems to be one of the best areas for regular bars and nightlife. A couple of metro stations and shopping mall in the area. Very close to Centro. Only downside I can see is Moema with the clinicas is a little distant. But I'd rather be close to the night spots than the daytime joints.[/QUOTE]I'll check this area.

Someone has some updates about Casarao?

[QUOTE=Komo753;2056408]I'll check this area.

Someone has some updates about Casarao?[/QUOTE]Yes, I know this area, it's a very interesting place, but I recommend you walk with money scattered in the pockets of your clothes and cell phone in your underwear, and at night in this neighborhood is not reliable. In this place have more boites and party house. You need to go to "Love Story" (R. Araújo- República) is a "normal" party, but from 4 am until 11 am, this party is full of single girls looking for a generous man. They ask by between are $ 200 66 USD) per hour or are $ 800 (267 USD) until 12 pm.

[QUOTE=Lonster;2056000]Thanks Wyatt.

Good idea to crosscheck a girl for reviews, will do that next time.

Since I am only there one night when I go for work limits me. I just don't have the time to do the lineup thing, which I agree is thrilling. So a webgirl maximizes my time. But has the downfall of encountering a fake photo girl.[/QUOTE]It is true what our friend wrote, I also recommend you search for the name and number of the girl on Twitter, here in Brazil, the girls use to publicize their work.

There are also other sites like.

Forumx.

Gparena.

Forumcutuca.

But they are in Portuguese, and has many slang, I advise you to search in this dictionary on sex slangs that I found in google, but also in Portuguese, but translating by Google Translate helps a lot [URL]https://www.morgana69mayfair.com/10-[/URL] 07-Dictionaries-Putanhistico.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2055249]I am planning to visit Sao Paulo or rio in September, and I am hoping that I can find girls that is as pretty as this 2 or better, and also that kind of body type. Could anyone help me answer my question, if I can find girls that is pretty and body type at clinicas, nightclubs etc? The rate to meet these girls are very expensive, but they just look so good. Thanks for the help.

[URL]http://misskennedynicole.com/mobile/[/URL]

[URL]http://taramichellevip.com/mobile/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, I know some girls like this two, you can find this girls here [URL]morgana69mayfair.com[/URL]/ copia-br-11-amigas.

They are available 24/7 outcall.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2055204]How is the Baixo Augusta area for safety particularly at night? I know the area has been improving the last several years.

Most visitors seem to stay in the areas South and taxi / uber at night.[/QUOTE]Is not so dangerous, but don't use your cellphone or wallet or expensive watches or jewels on the street haha whatever put this things in your underwear, not your pocket pants.

[QUOTE=Paulisto;2056574]You need to go to "Love Story" (R. Arajo- Repblica) is a "normal" party, but from 4 am until 11 am, this party is full of single girls looking for a generous man. They ask by between are $ 200 66 USD) per hour or are $ 800 (267 USD) until 12 pm.[/QUOTE]These single girls are some of the same tutes who work at other establishments around town. I know because I recognized some of them from other clubs I had frequented. Not all of them, but I certainly recognized some of them. They finish at their other places, and then go to Love Story in search of more "loving."

[QUOTE=Paulisto;2056575]It is true what our friend wrote, I also recommend you search for the name and number of the girl on Twitter, here in Brazil, the girls use to publicize their work.

There are also other sites like.

Forumx.

Gparena.

Forumcutuca.

But they are in Portuguese, and has many slang, I advise you to search in this dictionary on sex slangs that I found in google, but also in Portuguese, but translating by Google Translate helps a lot [URL]https://www.morgana69mayfair.com/10-[/URL] 07-Dictionaries-Putanhistico.[/QUOTE]Muito obrigado Paulisto.

I will try your sites fir my next trip.

[QUOTE=Paulisto;2056574]Yes, I know this area, it's a very interesting place, but I recommend you walk with money scattered in the pockets of your clothes and cell phone in your underwear, and at night in this neighborhood is not reliable. In this place have more boites and party house. You need to go to "Love Story" (R. Arajo- Repblica) is a "normal" party, but from 4 am until 11 am, this party is full of single girls looking for a generous man. They ask by between are $ 200 66 USD) per hour or are $ 800 (267 USD) until 12 pm.[/QUOTE]How many girls there are in this club? How much is the entrance? How much to take take out?

During a last two weeks visited this place numerous times.

Natascha- a small white girl, a gem. Was occupied most of the times.

Valentina- a white young girl, a gem, also was pre-booked lot of times.

Gabriela- a first timer. Latina. Not born for this job.

Eva-Morena, very good attendance. Slim body, quite tall.

Overall the selection was good, on some days I had difficulty to choose. My problems! .

Other popular / notables: Luana. All girls there were white and morenas, no mulatas or negras.

My favourite place in Sao Paulo for years.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2057616]How many girls there are in this club? How much is the entrance? How much to take take out?[/QUOTE]I think it's BRL 150 (USD 50), I have not been there for months and when I get drunk from other places haha.

Depending on the day and time you enter a few or many, but I will tell the story when it is between 3 am and 9 am (the house opens 1 am and closes at 11 am, the peak is at 4 am when the parties and nightclubs close).

Taking into account that before 23:59 is another day and after 0:01 am is another day, let's face it:

Sunday morning is the peak, because on Saturday night is when the city is going to have fun, you can find up to about 70 girls, depends. If it is the beginning of the month (here in Brazil salaries are almost always distributed until the fifth business day). During the week you can enter 30 40, between Friday morning and Saturday 40 50.

Remember that many girls who go there are "family girls," so be careful when you get into a woman, better "make her see you and convince her to come to you" so there is no misunderstanding.

When you and the girl talk, you can negotiate with her. They ask between BRL 200 300 (USD 66 100) per hour up to BRL 800 1200 (USD 267 400) per night (between 8 hours until 12 hours of company).

Today Tangara will be open from noon till 8 Pm.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2058169]Today Tangara will be open from noon till 8 Pm.[/QUOTE]Tangará will be open the same time, least week there were 16 girls avaliable.

ABG.

During my last visit to SP I discovered a new CLnica. Sure, I also went to Tangara, where they are polite, etc, but it's somewhat like a factory or waiting room at a public health institution. I wanted something more personal in every respect. So I found Asteka Bar at Marques de Olinda 563. Closest Metro is Alto de Ipiranga, from which this CLnica is about 8-10 minutes walk. Prices are $ 90/30 minutes and are $ 150/ HR. Had a very good romp, trying out the 30 min option first. Then returned twice. Same personal service and hot girls.

[QUOTE=LikeGirls;2062011]During my last visit to SP I discovered a new CLnica. Sure, I also went to Tangara, where they are polite, etc, but it's somewhat like a factory or waiting room at a public health institution. I wanted something more personal in every respect. So I found Asteka Bar at Marques de Olinda 563. Closest Metro is Alto de Ipiranga, from which this CLnica is about 8-10 minutes walk. Prices are $ 90/30 minutes and are $ 150/ HR. Had a very good romp, trying out the 30 min option first. Then returned twice. Same personal service and hot girls.[/QUOTE]Great report! I'm planning to go there! How many girls? Any particular recommendations? Any girl who masters BBBJ / CIM? Any particular girls name?

Thanks,

ABG.

[QUOTE=LikeGirls;2062011]During my last visit to SP I discovered a new CLnica. Sure, I also went to Tangara, where they are polite, etc, but it's somewhat like a factory or waiting room at a public health institution. I wanted something more personal in every respect. So I found Asteka Bar at Marques de Olinda 563. Closest Metro is Alto de Ipiranga, from which this CLnica is about 8-10 minutes walk. Prices are $ 90/30 minutes and are $ 150/ HR. Had a very good romp, trying out the 30 min option first. Then returned twice. Same personal service and hot girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks. They seem to have web page, with not so much info [URL]https://www.astekaloungebar.com.br[/URL].

[QUOTE=Nordico;2062647]Thanks. They seem to have web page, with not so much info [URL]https://www.astekaloungebar.com.br[/URL].[/QUOTE]I like the hours though! Will be interesting to get more intel on this place.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2062647]Thanks. They seem to have web page, with not so much info [URL]https://www.astekaloungebar.com.br[/URL].[/QUOTE]The girls I had were Luna (best) and Erika.

Before trying Asteka, the new Clnica I wrote about, I was in Tangara 3 x. Had a girl whose real name is Rafaela 2 times. She gave me the best BJ I've had in a decade. And I'm not a BJ fanatic, really. Rafaela is tall with a beautiful face. She's fun to talk to but when doing anything with her, just looking at her face was a mega turn on.

Yesterday I went with a gest to Chanes 53.

We arrived there around 9 PM, about some 20 girls in the house, some 5 available, very nice place with a bar, a billiard table, and dance music, good looking girls. 250 reais per hour, all included, room + girl. A good option for the night lovers who like a place to drink and relax but don't want to spend 1,000 reais or even more in the boites.

Open from noon till 4 AM. Met Scalet, a very nice slim morena and her friend Nicole, who speaks a very good English.

Rua dos Chanes 53.

ABG.

Hey folks,

I may be coming from the USA to Sao Paulo for business around the 18th of August. Could you recommend a hotel? I will be arriving at the Guarulhos airport? It will probably be for one night and I would like to make the best of it. I have been trying to get to Brazil for many years. Unfortunately my business will take me into the country where I will be staying with coworkers during the week. I travel nearly every week in USA and stay at Marriotts or Hiltons. Thanks for your help!

[QUOTE=LikeGirls;2062902]Before trying Asteka, the new Clnica I wrote about, I was in Tangara 3 x. Had a girl whose real name is Rafaela 2 times. She gave me the best BJ I've had in a decade. And I'm not a BJ fanatic, really. Rafaela is tall with a beautiful face. She's fun to talk to but when doing anything with her, just looking at her face was a mega turn on.[/QUOTE]Do you remember her working name?

[QUOTE=IlDuca;2063547]Do you remember her working name?[/QUOTE]Am really sorry but do not recall. Checked their site too but nothing rang a bell.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2062940]Yesterday I went with a gest to Chanes 53.

We arrived there around 9 PM, about some 20 girls in the house, some 5 available, very nice place with a bar, a billiard table, and dance music, good looking girls. 250 reais per hour, all included, room + girl. A good option for the night lovers who like a place to drink and relax but don't want to spend 1,000 reais or even more in the boites.

Open from noon till 4 AM. Met Scalet, a very nice slim morena and her friend Nicole, who speaks a very good English.

Rua dos Chanes 53.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Went to Chanes again, this time did a great TD with Pâmela, a lovely mulata, GFE, BBBJ AND CIM. 250 Reais =1 hour!

Good place to have a beer and relax among beautiful ladies.

[QUOTE=LikeGirls;2062902]Before trying Asteka, the new Clnica I wrote about, I was in Tangara 3 x. Had a girl whose real name is Rafaela 2 times. She gave me the best BJ I've had in a decade. And I'm not a BJ fanatic, really. Rafaela is tall with a beautiful face. She's fun to talk to but when doing anything with her, just looking at her face was a mega turn on.[/QUOTE]I was told by my Brazilian colleges that Asteka there are no beds, only mattresses on the floor. I hate that!

[QUOTE=Wonderwhy;2063205]Hey folks,

I may be coming from the USA to Sao Paulo for business around the 18th of August. Could you recommend a hotel? I will be arriving at the Guarulhos airport? It will probably be for one night and I would like to make the best of it. I have been trying to get to Brazil for many years. Unfortunately my business will take me into the country where I will be staying with coworkers during the week. I travel nearly every week in USA and stay at Marriotts or Hiltons. Thanks for your
help![/QUOTE]The Marriott executive apartments in Vila Olímpia will be a close to Tangará and Chanes.

[QUOTE=LikeGirls;2062902]Before trying Asteka, the new Clnica I wrote about, I was in Tangara 3 x. Had a girl whose real name is Rafaela 2 times. She gave me the best BJ I've had in a decade. And I'm not a BJ fanatic, really. Rafaela is tall with a beautiful face. She's fun to talk to but when doing anything with her, just looking at her face was a mega turn on.[/QUOTE]Tangará has one of the best girls cast and will be a open today until 8 pm.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2064073]Tangar has one of the best girls cast and will be a open today until 8 pm.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your post. I am here on business and just arrived today. I went by and the line up was good. The chica I banged was. 150 for an hour and I gave her 20 as a tip because she made me cum like a champ.

They told me they close at midnight. I have no idea when they open. My Portuguese was not enough to understand.

My only complaint about Sampa so far is that everything is spread out. Is there even an entertainment district to visit. Feel free to pm me the answer to that. I just wanted to post this quick report and not go off topic.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2064163]My only complaint about Sampa so far is that everything is spread out. Is there even an entertainment district to visit. Feel free to pm me the answer to that. I just wanted to post this quick report and not go off topic.[/QUOTE]Are talking about girls included with entertainment factor?

You can check out the area near Casarão American Bar, are. Augusta, 791 o. Action inside the club and lots of people on the street.

Itaim Bibi also has places / bars where you can mingle with local women. One of my taxi drivers told me about the area. Although I did not go check it out on my last trip in June. By the way, he only recommended it because he thought I can speak pretty good Porto and I would be able to communicate the girls.

If you want entertainment, as in tourist stuff, Av, Paulista has shops, cafes, restaurants, etc.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2064344]

You can check out the area near Casaro American Bar, are. Augusta, 791 o. Action inside the club and lots of people on the [/QUOTE]Thanks. I first went to get in Casaro. But it wasn't open yet at 10 PM so so went into the hole in the wall next to it. A short MILF wanted 200 but she went down to 150. It was another 40 for the room and she ended up ordering two drinks that cost me 60. The room was low end and even though her performance was lackluster I got a BBJ and my prostate massaged while fucking her. Came pretty hard so I can't complain. Pretty sure I got fucked on the pricing.

By the time I got done I found Casaro was open so I went in like a champ. Got quoted 250 by a cutie. I kept asking if that includes the room and she would just smile. By the time we got upstairs the guy at the rooms wanted 290 (or was it 280?) I wanted to be like WTF but just paid because at that point it it was either leave or pay. She did a good job too. Lots of kissing which I usually avoid.

At Casaro she claimed that 250 is the standard price. I am a little skeptical. In any case good times to be had if it wasn't for all the tense dudes in there.

There's one more bar on that street that has stairs going right up. It's right next to the store. One woman outside asked for a cigarette. She quoted 250 and claimed to work inside. Strangely she got a bit tense when I asked if all the women there want that much. I did it discreetly.

Are the women working these places independent? Do they set their own prices (within reason?

Back in Sampa with work. Returned to Brooklin, my favourite haunt in Sampa. There seem to be lot of titless thin skinny girls there at the moment if that is your thing. It's not my thing, I went with Nani, the Bahiana sex machine with the huge natural tits. Never fails. Great Service, very passionate and a really nice girl. Admitedly I was only there for a couple of hours but the current crop of girls on display that I saw was a little disappointing (either very thin or quite chunky). I'm thinking of going off the beaten track and over to Tatuape to Espaco Morango for my next session.

Current cost at Brooklin is 200/ HR cash (220 with card). You now need to pay upfront as they have had people do a runner after the session without paying. The place is really cool and you can hang around and chill out in the place and see the girls in the lineup as they become available. Brooklin is easy to get too, I go by Metro to Morumbi and then it is about 5 minutes walk. Kin Center is on the same street and Novo Cancioneiro and Espaco Morumbi are nearby so plenty of options within 10 minutes walking of each other. The place is safe to walk around.

Change of plan. Put Tatuape on the backburner and headed out to Moema to check out Mirunas and Enjoy. Was hoping to session with Vanessa, the big natural titted Mineira at Mirunas, but she is on holiday. Nothing else took my fancy there, although Fiorella, ex-Brooklin, has had an almighty tit job and is now packing serious chest meat. Unfortunately she is heavily tattooed which is turn off for me. Walked over to Enjoy and sessioned with Bebel. She has a lot of good reviews on GPGuia. Pretty girl, nice (silicone) tits and ass, ok in bed but nothing spectacular. Wouldn't repeat. Cost is 230 for an hour and 170 for 30 minutes. For those of you travelling by metro, you take the train to Vila Olympia and then a taxi from the station to Shopping Ibirapuera. The cost will be 20 reais if the traffic is flowing. Both clinicas are within 5 minutes walking distance of the mall and they are close together so it is easy to check out both lines ups before deciding.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2064639]
Casarao, etc.
Are the women working these places independent? Do they set their own prices (within reason?[/QUOTE]Not sure about the other clubs on Augusta, I don't frequent them.

I've been going to Casarao for over 10 years, however, the girls can charge whatever they like.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2064639]At Casaro she claimed that 250 is the standard price. I am a little skeptical. In any case good times to be had if it wasn't for all the tense dudes in there.
Are the women working these places independent? Do they set their own prices (within reason?[/QUOTE]The girls come and go as they wish at Casarão. You can negotiate the price with the girls.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;2065028]Mirunas and Enjoy.... from Shopping Ibirapuera.... Both clinicas are within 5 minutes walking distance of the mall and they are close together so it is easy to check out both lines ups before deciding.[/QUOTE]It's actually more than 5 min. This is for those who don't like to walk. From the back side of the mall, Mirunas is a 10 minute walk. I did it a few times back in June. Enjoy is another 7 minutes further from Mirunas. Plus there is really nothing to see along the way. I don't mind a 10-15 min walk on occasion, but as the days go on, I get tired of walking.

I arrived at 11 pm near Casarao and decided to stop in the American Bar place. The doorman immediately gave me a chill when he grinned at my Spanish and spoke to me in English. First he went to change 50 because the cover of was twenty and did not come back for a good 10 minutes. I realized I have 20's and paid the lady at the counter with it after recovering my money from the doorman. When I went in there were only two women in there. Niether of them interested me but they came over and kissed and did the introduction. Soon enough during the conversation they asked for drinks. I said sure. I will buy a round.

I only bought one round before finishing my already paid for beer and leaving. The tab: 150 reals. I was shocked. The women laughed at me when I was at the counter. I explained to the cashier that there must be some mistake. They only ordered one round. She didn't relent. I decided escalating things was not in my interest so I paid.

Went to Casarao next and was a little depressed seeing the bunda I wanted chatting up another guy for an hour. I did end up with a very good piece of ass who per Brazilian hooker custom was total GFE. Still 250 for her and 40 for the room seems a bit high. Banged her like a good Safado. Got her number. Will try to see what she will cost outside of that place for nooners.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2065120].... Went to Casarao next and was a little depressed seeing the bunda I wanted chatting up another guy for an hour. I did end up with a very good piece of ass who per Brazilian hooker custom was total GFE. Still 250 for her and 40 for the room seems a bit high. Banged her like a good Safado. Got her number. Will try to see what she will cost outside of that place for nooners.[/QUOTE]You can offer her 200 reals. A reasonable rate IMO. Last time I was there, back in June, I took a girl up for 240 all in. 200 plus 40 for the room. Everyone was happy.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2065120]I arrived at 11 pm near Casarao and decided to stop in the American Bar place. Snip. When I went in there were only two women in there. Niether of them interested me but they came over and kissed and did the introduction. Soon enough during the conversation they asked for drinks. I said sure. I will buy a round.

I only bought one round before finishing my already paid for beer and leaving. The tab: 150 reals. I was shocked. The women laughed at me when I was at the counter. I explained to the cashier that there must be some mistake. They only ordered one round. She didn't relent. I decided escalating things was not in my interest so I paid.[/QUOTE]No doubt the women got a cut of the money you paid. A lesson that everyone should learn if they don't already know: never order anything, especially in a bar with women who may work for the bar or get commissions on drinks, unless you have confirmed the price with the person taking the order and make sure the bill reflects that price.

Went to Tangara about 5 pm, about 22 girls in house, chose Luana, a tall baiana, GFE, good BBBJ, till CIM, small tits and nice but.

150 reais = 1 h. ; 50 reais for the BBB / CIM. Other remarkable girls who do BBBJTC: Stellinha, Marcele Loira, Leila, Raquel, Carol and Jennifer.

IMO Tangara has the best cast of girls near Av. Paulista and Moema.

ABG.

I will be in Sao Paulo next week. First trip there. Can anyone suggest some good hotel in Paulista Avenue. Budget is $180 per night for hotel.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2066285]Went to Tangara about 5 pm, about 22 girls in house, chose Luana, a tall baiana, GFE, good BBBJ, till CIM, small tits and nice but.

150 reais = 1 h. ; 50 reais for the BBB / CIM. Other remarkable girls who do BBBJTC: Stellinha, Marcele Loira, Leila, Raquel, Carol and Jennifer.

IMO Tangara has the best cast of girls near Av. Paulista and Moema.

ABG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PussyLoverBoys;2066389]I will be in Sao Paulo next week. First trip there. Can anyone suggest some good hotel in Paulista Avenue. Budget is $180 per night for hotel.[/QUOTE]Uber is cheap. You don't need to stay there.

Went back today to Tangara and nailed a curvy MILF. Going back after dinner for seconds. The only draw back is how busy these places are in Sao Paolo. There are always a dozen guys just sitting around.

Here in SP have many hotel that are available by hours, you just need booking by [URL]hotelquando.com[/URL] is better than pay for one full day.

So, when I knew this, I choose 12 h with a blonde girl called Bia Spinelli. When you will call her, she will show her site with more delicious pics. She have a big butt, long hair and baby face. I want a per night with her, so I booking by What's App, she is objetive on messages, and 9 pm start our night. She come to me on hotel's reception, when I was waiting for her, her delay 6 minutes, but this don't matter, I make check in, we both give our documents and after bureaucracy we go to the room talking, and when I closed the door she give me a long french kiss and I gave the money for she, she count, put inside her bag, and she take off dancing slow her clothes. MAN this ass is so big, I was so excited to put my face there, but when I will run to she, she said slowly "no" and a little smile. And she go to the floor, putting her knees and elbows down, and come to me like a sexy female dog, slowly, twerking, and when she arrived, she take off my pants and my "big friend" and sucking so delicious oooh this was fucking good, she is fantastic in this art. Licking my "head" and looking naughty to me, this make me crazy. So she put only her feet on floor, take me by hand, give me one simple kiss, and walk with me to the bad (we was hosted for one night, last week, in Mercure, in front of Ibirapuera's Park), I was going to the madness only appreciating this butt, she lay down, opened her legs still in lingerie, and I just remember that I ended up in that delicious part of her, so wet, hot and soft. After a long time licking and sucking her, I took the condom she left on her side, put it on me and penetrated that hot, smelling rose she has. I was almost exploding inside her, I asked her to stand still while I recovered, so I asked to use her butt and when she turned, I had to fall on my mouth in that delicious little hole, trying to stick my tongue in, she took the Lubricant, put it on my limb, put it on it and started slowly enjoying that big butt swallowing me slowly. Shortly after exploded and I only remember to have fallen to the side and have slept. In the morning, after I went to the bathroom and brushed my teeth, it was another round, as sensational as the other. Well I'll finish here, because my post is already too big.

Someone can update all the club names that are in Sao Paulo? I plan to visit all of them when I am in Sao Paulo. I only know few names (Zeus, Casarao, Bomboa, Scandalo).

Not interested in prives.

I'm planning a possible Sao Paolo trip and have a few questions.

1. How long are Visas for tourists from the US good for?

2. Are Visas only valid for single visit only? It's not valid for visiting multiple times within an alloted duration? How long is typically the Visa processing time?

3. Are there dangers of theft (wallets, muggings) in some parts? What parts are to be avoided and what parts are recommended for trouble free stay?

In case you may get wallet stolen, do you guys keep a special wallet to secure it?

4. What area of Sao Paolo is most recommended for punting that has most clubs?

5. Are every clubs easy to reach public transport? No point in rental cars?

6. Do the clubs only operate at night only like in some Spanish speaking countries? When does the club scen start kicking?

7. What location is best recommeded for hotel stay?

8. What is the typical prices of sessions? Is it per half HR or 1 HR? Are there services girls consider as extras?

9. Is it ok to land at any airport? There are several within the city reach.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2066656]Someone can update all the club names that are in Sao Paulo? I plan to visit all of them when I am in Sao Paulo. I only know few names (Zeus, Casarao, Bomboa, Scandalo).

Not interested in prives.[/QUOTE]There are also Connection, Ilha the Fantasia, Cafe Photo, Tivoli etc.

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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2067015]I'm planning a possible Sao Paolo trip and have a few questions. [/QUOTE]1. How long are Visas for tourists from the US good for? 10 years.

2. Are Visas only valid for single visit only? It's not valid for visiting multiple times within an allotted duration? How long is typically the Visa processing time? Multiple entry. 180 days per year. 90 days per visit, but can be extended.

3. Are there dangers of theft (wallets, muggings) in some parts? What parts are to be avoided and what parts are recommended for trouble free stay? Yes, in some suburbs, and certain parts of Centro. Basically avoid isolated streets in drug areas.

In case you may get wallet stolen, do you guys keep a special wallet to secure it? I don't carry a wallet. Just my drivers license and cash.

4. What area of Sao Paolo is most recommended for punting that has most clubs? Rua Augusta.

5. Are every clubs easy to reach public transport? No point in rental cars? Use uber.

6. Do the clubs only operate at night only like in some Spanish speaking countries? When does the club scene start kicking? 11 p.

7. What location is best recommended for hotel stay? For first time visitors, probably Av. Paulista. Or from there down to Moema.

8. What is the typical prices of sessions? Is it per half HR or 1 HR? Are there services girls consider as extras? Anal tends to be extra. BBBJCIM is typically extra. Sessions and prices depend on location. Read this thread.

9. Is it OK to land at any airport? There are several within the city reach. GRU or Congonhas. Campinas is too far away.

Thanks for answering the newbie questions. Consolidating the QA to a single post should help other newbs out.

Are Uber rates much cheaper in Brazil?

Ok, so the clubs start usually around 11 pm it sounds like. What some key things to do in Sao Paolo during the day?

Ok, sexmachine's report answered the uber question. Seems like cheap rates.

Yet another question. Do girls speak English ok to discuss services? Or must you know some Portuguese?

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2067551]Ok, sexmachine's report answered the uber question. Seems like cheap rates.

Yet another question. Do girls speak English ok to discuss services? Or must you know some Portuguese?[/QUOTE]I am getting by with Spanish. 95% of them don't speak English.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2067351]Thanks for answering the newbie questions. Consolidating the QA to a single post should help other newbs out.

Are Uber rates much cheaper in Brazil?

Ok, so the clubs start usually around 11 pm it sounds like. What some key things to do in Sao Paolo during the day?[/QUOTE]Visit Tangara.

ABG.

Hi folks,

In few days, I will be in Sampa.

Is there someone who knows 4/5 hotels which are girl friendly?

At the same time, if those hotels can be very closed to nice hunting places, it will be nicer.

Warmest regards,

L.

[QUOTE=Lobbyman1;2067639]Hi folks,

In few days, I will be in Sampa.

Is there someone who knows 4/5 hotels which are girl friendly?

At the same time, if those hotels can be very closed to nice hunting places, it will be nicer.

Warmest regards,

L.[/QUOTE]Hotel Mercure Jardins (corner of Rua Augusta) is totally GF hotel and it is few blocks away from Paulista avenue. It is 4 star hotel and I stayed few times, no issue with bringing multiple girls.

I have had two outcalls to a 4 star brand hotel without any issues. These are both hookers from Tangara who are moonlighting on their off hours:

* Hooker arrives dressed completely normally in Uber I called for her.

* I join her and enter address of restaurant. Go out to dinner.

* Then we Uber back to hotel and walk in holding hands. No one blinks an eye.

* Helpful if hooker is age appropriate for you.

As explained to me by the hookers if you look like a couple then generally the hotel staff won't bother you. Unless of course you are blasting music late at night.

Your mileage may vary.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2067015]I'm planning a possible Sao Paolo trip and have a few questions.
[/QUOTE]Larry David answered all of your question. I concur. You are good to go. The visa process takes about 2 days. Example, you can drop off the application on Monday and pick up Wednesday. That's if you have a consulate near your hometown. Mailing takes a little bit longer. So plan accordingly.

Hi folks,

Someone knows where to meet non-pros in Sao Paulo?

Warmest regards,

L.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2067351]Thanks for answering the newbie questions. Consolidating the QA to a single post should help other newbs out.

Are Uber rates much cheaper in Brazil? Yes, for example 1,5Km I pay 8 BRL or 3 USD, taxi will me 14 BRL or 5 USD.

Ok, so the clubs start usually around 11 pm it sounds like. What some key things to do in Sao Paolo during the day?[/QUOTE]In Santana (North zone of SP starts 12 pm 14 pm, but Augusta or others boites starts between 4 pm and 10 pm.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2067551]Ok, sexmachine's report answered the uber question. Seems like cheap rates.

Yet another question. Do girls speak English ok to discuss services? Or must you know some Portuguese?[/QUOTE]In Brazil almost nobody speak English, well the expensive girls (more than 400 BRL or 130 USD by hour) speak 2 or more languages haha.

But you can try Spanish.

[QUOTE=Lobbyman1;2067639]Hi folks,

In few days, I will be in Sampa.

Is there someone who knows 4/5 hotels which are girl friendly?


At the same time, if those hotels can be very closed to nice hunting places, it will be nicer.

Warmest regards,

L.[/QUOTE]Renaissance alameda Santos or Unique Hotel av Brigadeiro Faria Lima.

[QUOTE=Tekmolo;2051699]Any specific girl (s) you would recommend with a body like this?

[URL]https://static.fucktat.com/media/38598/conversions/thumb_big.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.morgana69mayfair.com/copia-us-11-girl-friends[/URL] you can try this girls.

Hi folks,

So many questions from me!

Someone has contact for high level profile known as "book Rosa" ?

I would like to find those kind of women:

- Rayssa melo.

- gracyanne barbossa: [URL]https://extra.globo.com/incoming/21436841-ca8-174/w448/gracyanne4.jpg[/URL].

Thanks for your help.

Tangara will be open from noon till 8 pm. Yesterday more than 30 girls in house.

Since its a company paid trip. I am in Paulista Avenue. I need help in understanding what my options are? Any nearby places that I can visit by walk? What is Tangara? I am unable to locate it on google.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2066401]Uber is cheap. You don't need to stay there.

Went back today to Tangara and nailed a curvy MILF. Going back after dinner for seconds. The only draw back is how busy these places are in Sao Paolo. There are always a dozen guys just sitting around.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PussyLoverBoys;2069120]Since its a company paid trip. I am in Paulista Avenue. I need help in understanding what my options are? Any nearby places that I can visit by walk? What is Tangara? I am unable to locate it on google.[/QUOTE][URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oFDTeu9h96DyKCWCG7o1R6rr530&usp=sharing[/URL]

[QUOTE=Safado69;2067104]There are also Connection, Ilha the Fantasia, Cafe Photo, Tivoli etc.

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[URL]http://www.forumcutuca.com/viewforum.php?f=12[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the Info.

It is very useful.

Thanks for this. Makes it clear now. I see lot of independents available near me. Is it safe to go to their place?

[QUOTE=Nordico;2069206][URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oFDTeu9h96DyKCWCG7o1R6rr530&usp=sharing[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PussyLoverBoys;2069120]Since its a company paid trip. I am in Paulista Avenue. I need help in understanding what my options are? Any nearby places that I can visit by walk? What is Tangara? I am unable to locate it on google.[/QUOTE]Hi I can help you. Tangará is a house with massage, here we call "CLínica".

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Or.

If you prefer [URL]morgana69mayfair.com[/URL] is a BBW with many girl friends around São Paulo.

[QUOTE=PussyLoverBoys;2070451]Thanks for this. Makes it clear now. I see lot of independents available near me. Is it safe to go to their place?[/QUOTE]Yes, but ever remember put your cellphone and cash in your underclothes, every place in Brazil.

[QUOTE=PussyLoverBoys;2070451]Thanks for this. Makes it clear now. I see lot of independents available near me. Is it safe to go to their place?[/QUOTE]Independents are always a hit and miss. If you decide to go, take your passport with you. You may need it to enter the apartment building. It shouldn't be dangerous, but I think your best bet are the clinicas or if money is no object, try boates. There are quite a few reports about Bomboa, Scandallo and Casarao in this thread.

Prives and Clinicas are brothels. Prices around 150-250 BRL per hour (it's 1 hour, not one shot). Boates are bars / night clubs. Prices from 250 BRL up to 1000 (or more) for whole package (food, drinks, girl etc.). Taxi or Uber is the best way to get there.

[QUOTE=Lobbyman1;2068486]Hi folks,

So many questions from me!

Someone has contact for high level profile known as "book Rosa" ?

I would like to find those kind of women:

- Rayssa melo.

- gracyanne barbossa: [URL]https://extra.globo.com/incoming/21436841-ca8-174/w448/gracyanne4.jpg[/URL].

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE][URL]http://acompanhantesaradasp.wixsite.com/eduarda-sarada[/URL]

"Book rosa" is the name that we give to girls (men is blue) that give sex by money in festivals, workshops.

[URL]http://suzymonteirohot.webnode.com[/URL]

This girl is fantastic, she is like MILF, and she work in a flat on downtown of São Paulo.

I loved her butt, she have back hair, is not tall, have "bikini lines" (I don't know the name in English) on her body, sucked me so delicious. Dude, you need to try this fantastic woman, her butt is hypnotic.

[QUOTE=Paulisto;2070745][URL]http://suzymonteirohot.webnode.com[/URL]

This girl is fantastic, she is like MILF, and she work in a flat on downtown of So Paulo.

I loved her butt, she have back hair, is not tall, have "bikini lines" (I don't know the name in English) on her body, sucked me so delicious. Dude, you need to try this fantastic woman, her butt is hypnotic.[/QUOTE]5'3 and 150 lbs is a little thick for my taste, and she is at least 33 years old and a butterface. Thanks but, no. So many better options in this city. Casarão and Scandallo each have over a hundred girls on any given night. Tangara is normally good for 20-30 girls. Enjoy, Red, Miruna, Brooklyn seem to always have 8-12 girls on hand. You can walk from one to the next and see all of the lineups within a couple of hours. Or uber between them and see 40 girls in an hour. Guaranteed you will find hotter girls than Suzy.

One other thing, there is no need to carry your cell phone or cash in your underwear. Just use situational awareness and don't flash your valuables. Nobody wants your underwear money. Okay, I see your point.

[QUOTE=Lobbyman1;2067639]Hi folks,

In few days, I will be in Sampa.

Is there someone who knows 4/5 hotels which are girl friendly?

At the same time, if those hotels can be very closed to nice hunting places, it will be nicer.

Warmest regards,

L.[/QUOTE]Hi mate,

I was in Sao Paulo with some friends a year or so ago. We were visiting several cities in Brazil and the Amazon. However, we wanted to have fun in Sao Paulo and asked our hotel staff if we could have some girls pay us a visit. They told us that there won't be any issues. The hotel was the Mercure Sao Paulo Alamedas. I don't know if you'll find the location useful or not, but that was the only place we were at.

Cheers!

Which Clinicas have a frequent visit discounts.

I know Tangara has a buy 5 get one half off. You just need to ask for a punchcard after your visit.

Brooklin had it for people who post a review in the Portuguese forum. I am not sure of the details. Is this still going on?

I read that Enjoy has one. How does it work there? Any details?

Others?

[QUOTE=DoMat;2071139]Which Clinicas have a frequent visit discounts.

I know Tangara has a buy 5 get one half off. You just need to ask for a punchcard after your visit.

Brooklin had it for people who post a review in the Portuguese forum. I am not sure of the details. Is this still going on?

I read that Enjoy has one. How does it work there? Any details?

Others?[/QUOTE]I'm sure a Brazilian wife or two has made the word "punch" operative after finding their husband's punch card.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2070840]5'3 and 150 lbs is a little thick for my taste, and she is at least 33 years old and a butterface. Thanks but, no. So many better options in this city. Casaro and Scandallo each have over a...[/QUOTE]No problems friend, everyone has a different preference. Maybe one of these girls might interest you and your friends here, or you can go to Rua Aroaba -Vila Leopoldina (60 min 300 BRL or 100 USD). From 2 pm until 3 am.

[URL]morgana69mayfair.com[/URL]/ copia-br-11-amigas.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2071226]I'm sure a Brazilian wife or two has made the word "punch" operative after finding their husband's punch card.[/QUOTE]They actually have a system where you can keep your punch card with the establishment so you don't have those worries LOL.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2069206][URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oFDTeu9h96DyKCWCG7o1R6rr530&usp=sharing[/URL][/QUOTE]Nordico,

Any chance you can get this map working again? It's a great resource for first time visitor to Sao Paulo like myself. I'm here now and just getting ready to dive in (so to speak).

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PussyLoverBoys;2070451]Thanks for this. Makes it clear now. I see lot of independents available near me. Is it safe to go to their place?[/QUOTE]Learn some basic Portuguese sex terminology.

Peruse gpguia on the internet.

Look at web and / or twitter photos of highly-regarded acompanhantes (escorts).

Get WhatsApp.

Use an on-line translator.

Contact attractive acompanhantes (escorts) who are highly-regarded.

Fabi, young blonde model shape, speaks English, attends from noon till 8 pm.

ABG.

Made a short business trip to Rio (1 day) and Sao Paulo (2 days):

Based on reading the forum, I went to Tangara (R. Tangara 200) and Miruna (R. Mirina 644) and here are my observations (recognize others may have differing views):

Tangara:

30 minutes: R100 // 1 HR: 150.

At least 20 girls must have been there at 8 pm, which is when I went.

Hostess: 2 really sweet hostesses (one is Susan made a very conscious effort to make me feel comfortable and tried speaking some English, given I speak no Portuguese).

Ambience: really easy going place; nice courtyard outside the visitor room to grab a smoke or two and chat up with the girls and other hobbyists.

Line up: Very nice diversity which I like to see. All the girls were very easy going and relaxed.

Session: Had an hour with Jennifer (tall, black long hair with a hot body). She was frankly awesome. Great technique (amazing BBBJ). Was up for almost anything. I blew my nut in 30 minutes itself but she wasn't hurried or wanting to run out. Tried some of my broken Spanish with her and learnt some basic Portuguese. Great fun.

Also sessioned with Eduarda (heavy breasted, Brazilian, 2 y, one kid). Susa recommended I should try her for fun. I was like what the hell. And so we went. She was an awesome kisser. Very nice rack and up for all positions (no anal though). Recognising I was still tired from my previous session, I took only 30 minutes. But she made me work each of those 30 minutes. LOL. Loved it. Came out smiling all ends.

Miruna: next day went to Miruna. Miruna is a tad bit more expensive (R230 for an HR) but the line up was hotter than tangara. I went with this pretty little thing, Perula. Absolutely spanking hot body and beautiful, milky white gace. She was a sweetheart in bed. Total GFE. Tried her in all positions. She was brilliant. And then she gave me a decent massage. Rooms were more plush and comfortable compared to tangara (I am told it caters to the higher end crowd in moema).

So in all, I loved both the places. For the value buyer, you cannot beat Tangara. Period. For the one willing to spend a bit more, do try Miruna.

Didn't get a chance to session in Rio this time. But as I leave SP, looking forward to making another trip soon.

P.S: as a side note, the weather sucked. Rained all 3 days I was here. But never dampened the spirit of the Brazilian traveler!

Cheers.

Anyone been to Chanes lately besides ABG?

I see Fefao posting on FB and it looks like there are 1-2 hotties there, but it could just be his marketing. I did a RTTF search and outside of ABG's mentions, haven't seen any info. When I went there several months ago at opening, it was kind of a disaster. Just curious.

Also, anyone got a good idea on what to do during a day in SP for non-GDP activities? Besides museums (ugh) and parks (ugh)? I may have to pass a weekend there and was just wondering if there's actually anything cool to do besides go to the usual clinicas .... TripAdvisor/Booking were not particularly helpful on fun things to do.

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=Afreqflyer;2072803]Nordico,

Any chance you can get this map working again? It's a great resource for first time visitor to Sao Paulo like myself. I'm here now and just getting ready to dive in (so to speak).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi,

You can access [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/placelists/list/13aABpPQQNobhy0IG89_SGzi7w2w[/URL].

But this list is little, but I would like to help you and the guys here by DM, but I don't pay the premium member. You can use [URL]forumcutuca.com[/URL] is a forum in portuguese, you can use translator on chrome.

This list have only house of massage (here we call this kind of house "Clínicas".

[QUOTE=EricCartman;2074230]Anyone been to Chanes lately besides ABG?

I see Fefao posting on FB and it looks like there are 1-2 hotties there, but it could just be his marketing. I did a RTTF search and outside of ABG's mentions, haven't seen any info. When I went there several months ago at opening, it was kind of a disaster. Just curious.

Also, anyone got a good idea on what to do during a day in SP for non-GDP activities? Besides museums (ugh) and parks (ugh)? I may have to pass a weekend there and was just wondering if there's actually anything cool to do besides go to the usual clinicas .... TripAdvisor/Booking were not particularly helpful on fun things to do.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]It has split pricing model now, before 9 its like Mirunas / Enjoy pricing. After 9 its more. Not sure exactly, maybe just no gpguia discount after 9, best to call them.

On the plus side, there is no entrada or minimum to sit upstairs in bar area. You can sit and chat and eat or drink or not.

Have not been enuf to see any pattern to lineups, range from 6 to 18 girls probalby depending on day. Gpguia reports suggest it has some traction, seems popular with locals who like to hang out, play pool, drink, maybe session. Good option if you are with wingman and want to hang out at quieter place than casarao.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;2074230]Anyone been to Chanes lately besides ABG?

I see Fefao posting on FB and it looks like there are 1-2 hotties there, but it could just be his marketing. I did a RTTF search and outside of ABG's mentions, haven't seen any info. When I went there several months ago at opening, it was kind of a disaster. Just curious.

Also, anyone got a good idea on what to do during a day in SP for non-GDP activities? Besides museums (ugh) and parks (ugh)? I may have to pass a weekend there and was just wondering if there's actually anything cool to do besides go to the usual clinicas .... TripAdvisor/Booking were not particularly helpful on fun things to do.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]I went with a friend last night and we got there at 11 pm. We went upstairs and the girl to guy ratio was literally 0-to-15. The guys were just sitting around playing pool and chatting with each other. Fefao looked half dead from all the excitement in the boate. Ha. We walked around for about 3 minutes and then went downstairs and asked Julia the receptionist if there were any girls. She said that they all had already left. The list had all names crossed out and it had about 12 girls on it. This place seems to be a total joke.

As for things to do during the day. Stay inside as it seems to rain every damn day! Ha. Maybe someone else here can chime in on what there is to do during the day here if you don't work. The only thing that I can think of is go to the mall and stare at or creep on young nubile girls walking around.

Today afternoon, raining, 12 girls available at Tangara, went with little Lisa, very good DFK.

BBBJ and CIM! 150 reais + 50 reais extra for the BBBJ / CIM.

ABG.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;2074230]Also, anyone got a good idea on what to do during a day in SP for non-GDP activities? Besides museums (ugh) and parks (ugh)? I may have to pass a weekend there and was just wondering if there's actually anything cool to do besides go to the usual clinicas .... TripAdvisor/Booking were not particularly helpful on fun things to do.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]Besides eat at good restaurants and smoke a cigar? I'd suggest the jockey club. The ponies are still running. Sunday on Paulista has a good crowd if you want to people watch while listening to competing musicians and navigating sidewalk vendors. Maybe you'll see quadriplegic Elvis. This is the spot for getting your Zumba on in public. JK Iguatemi mall is a good place to take on a matinee. VIP seats recline and there is food and drink service. Sadly, much of Paulista life seems to take place in shopping centers. There are card rooms if you want to play poker. You can also find microbreweries around. For other entertainment check guiadesemana website for your dates.

Thanks for the feeback on my SP questions. I decided to "import" (or export I guess) one of my amigas coloridas from Rio for Saturday night / Sunday. But I'll still have Friday afternoon / night and Saturday day free, so I'll figure out where I can go and report back after the deed (s)! Trip isn't for nother 5-6 weeks.

[QUOTE=Paulisto;2070745][URL]http://suzymonteirohot.webnode.com[/URL]

This girl is fantastic, she is like MILF, and she work in a flat on downtown of So Paulo.

I loved her butt, she have back hair, is not tall, have "bikini lines" (I don't know the name in English) on her body, sucked me so delicious. Dude, you need to try this fantastic woman, her butt is hypnotic.[/QUOTE]Mulher camarão.

Does anyone know if clinics or Scandallo will be open on Oct 11,12 and 13? I was told the 12 is a big holiday and everything closes and people take Friday off for a long weekend so not sure if there will be any places avopen or have talent on the Wednesday night before the holiday, Thursday and or Friday? Appreciate any insight from those who would know as I might have to change travel plans accordingly.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2074982]....Maybe you'll see quadriplegic Elvis.....[/QUOTE]Tetra-amelia Elvis. He lives in my building. Quadriplegic implies not having the use of the limbs. Dude doesn't have any limbs.

[QUOTE]http://suzymonteirohot.webnode.com

This girl is fantastic, she is like MILF, and she work in a flat on downtown of So Paulo.[/QUOTE]Her feet look like a man's. And she has a butter-face and dough body. More power to those of you who like this type. Means more hotties for me! (unless ABG gets there first, he always does haha).

[QUOTE=Paulisto;2070745][URL]http://suzymonteirohot.webnode.com[/URL]

This girl is fantastic, she is like MILF, and she work in a flat on downtown of So Paulo.

I loved her butt, she have back hair, is not tall, have "bikini lines" (I don't know the name in English) on her body, sucked me so delicious. Dude, you need to try this fantastic woman, her butt is hypnotic.[/QUOTE]If you like thicker and mature women, I would recommend Carla Viana. She's very open to anything and you can see she's got gravity defying, natural breasts with pistol nipples. Her face is actually that of an attractive, mature woman. She charges R200, but she's been known to run specials. She's probably mid to late 30's.

I wouldn't compare Carla to a hot, 19 year old at Scandallo, but for a nice afternoon with a sexy woman with a fun body at a nice price Carla is a great time.

[URL]https://twitter.com/CarlaVianaOfic1/media[/URL]

[QUOTE=IlDuca;2063547]Do you remember her working name?[/QUOTE]Her working name is Clara. Normally works 17:00-21:00.

Hello,

What is the nearest beach to Sao Paulo city? The best beach to surf. What is the transport fee? More or less? How long? Any website or any info will be appreciated.

Since I came to Sao Paulo, I miss the beach in Rio de Janeiro, That's the only thing I miss.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2077592]Hello,

What is the nearest beach to Sao Paulo city? The best beach to surf. What is the transport fee? More or less? How long? Any website or any info will be appreciated.

Since I came to Sao Paulo, I miss the beach in Rio de Janeiro, That's the only thing I miss.[/QUOTE]Nearest beach and best beach for surfing and nicest beach etc unfortunately don't all come together. For surfing and nice atmosphere, Sao Sebastiao area has beaches like Ubatuba, Maresias and Camburi. Itamambuca is also goood for surfing. Better to rent a car to get there. Drive depends on traffic etc but these are popular weekend beaches for more well to do Paulistas.

Lose to Santo is Bertioga which you can get to by bus in 90 minutes. Sao Lourenco beach is not bad for surfing and on the nicer side for the area.

Maresias etc is nicer but farther. Bertioga is closer and a more urban area. Maresias can be dead off season and during the week. But it is great over the summer.

Hope that helps. You can find info on these places by looking up Lonely Planet or wiki travel if you want more details.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2077592]Hello,

What is the nearest beach to Sao Paulo city? The best beach to surf. What is the transport fee? More or less? How long? Any website or any info will be appreciated.

Since I came to Sao Paulo, I miss the beach in Rio de Janeiro, That's the only thing I miss.[/QUOTE]The nearest beaches are in Santos, but the best ones for surfing are in Guaruja.

Best web site about beaches in Guaruja:

[URL]http://www.praias.com.br/estado-sao-paulo/praias-de-guaruja.html[/URL]

Website on busses to Guaruja:

[URL]https://www.terminaljabaquara.com.br/passagens-de-onibus/sao-paulo-sp-terminal-jabaquara-para-guaruja-sp?cmp=RodoviariaJabaquara&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=RodoviariaJabaquara&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoZTNBRCWARIsAOMZHmGOqGRkO4-OF4acYiT1PonSRSwrYz8Pj8cOV5iXHFBSW-zYA9-nVQsaAs2TEALw_wcB[/URL]

ABG.

[QUOTE=IlDuca;2063547]Do you remember her working name?[/QUOTE]Her nickname is Clara.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2077592]Hello,

What is the nearest beach to Sao Paulo city? The best beach to surf. What is the transport fee? More or less? How long? Any website or any info will be appreciated.

Since I came to Sao Paulo, I miss the beach in Rio de Janeiro, That's the only thing I miss.[/QUOTE]Parque Ibirapuera.

I was here for two months. I did not go to any massagem and clinicas due to security and language reasons. I visited Bomboa three times and Scandallo two times. I really don't mind the price since I come from China in which prostitution is illegal and cost for hooker is incredible. Also as a citizen of China, you might got one year in Jail for prostitution and you will lose job and dignity which means social death. A girl in 7 in my book would cost 300 USD in Beijing. Even in Europe, girls on my standard would cost 200-250 Euro. However in SP, even the most expensive boate only cost 1000 are $ a night with drinks and you could choose the girl you like from hundreds of girls. I have to said it is cheap and SP is heaven for Chinese people LOL.

My best exp is in Scandallo since I met a girl looks exactly like Cobie Smulders but younger, bigger boobs, prettier face and greater waist-hip ratio. Even though she is not good at english I still adore her. Very GFE session, BBBJ, French kissing and multi positions. For the first time I met her, I was too drunk. I fucked her like 40 minutes without coming but she is OK with that and had a CIM in the end. So I got to Scandallo a week later just for her. Fortunately I met her again, session was even better this time and we exchanged contact info so I could just get her in my hotel directly. After I finished session I had around 2 hrs more to see whether there is better hunt. However there is not. I drunk a stellar, a Cuba libre and a white Russian which is not on menu also with a ice cream on lava chocolate cake then left. Damage on drinks and food is even larger than the girl which is 545 are $, sigh. I also talked with some mulata, Asian, blonde girls but no one turn me on.

Actually I visited Bomboa first since it is near my hotel in Avenida Paulista. However it disappoints me times by times. First time 9.0, third time 6.0. Sigh. I have to say that scandallo has more choices than Bomboa. Bomboa is good however Scandallo is extraordinary.

Hope you guys have fun in SP.

[QUOTE=HeroLidaye;2078110]I was here for two months. I did not go to any massagem and clinicas due to security and language reasons. I visited Bomboa three times and Scandallo two times. I really don't mind the price since I come from China in which prostitution is illegal and cost for hooker is incredible. Also as a citizen of China, you might got one year in Jail for prostitution and you will lose job and dignity which means social death. A girl in 7 in my book would cost 300 USD in Beijing. Even in Europe, girls on my standard would cost 200-250 Euro. However in SP, even the most expensive boate only cost 1000 are $ a night with drinks and you could choose the girl you like from hundreds of girls. I have to said it is cheap and SP is heaven for Chinese people LOL.

My best exp is in Scandallo since I met a girl looks exactly like Cobie Smulders but younger, bigger boobs, prettier face and greater waist-hip ratio. Even though she is not good at english I still adore her. Very GFE session, BBBJ, French kissing and multi positions. For the first time I met her, I was too drunk. I fucked her like 40 minutes without coming but she is OK with that and had a CIM in the end. So I got to Scandallo a week later just for her..[/QUOTE]Really the opposite of Japan, In Japan, prostitution is legal, brothels are not forbidden. Anal sex, kissing, hand job, blow job CIM, etc are legal in Japan, Only vaginal sex is illegal in Japan.

I ve never been interested in mongering in China, it is illigal, very difficult to have good sex with asian girls, the price is expensive even more expensive than Japan, in Japan in a soapland with a japanese girl, you pay 200 - 250 dollar 80 minutes.

No girls beat Russians and Brazilians.

It is good to monger in Ukraine and Russia if you already know a good local that knows everything. I often pay a sex tour guide when I am in Russia. He finds some freelancers for me and some hidden places. The punishment for any engagement in prostitution in Russia 2000 rubles (34 dollars).

Bomboa is a good club and yeah scandallo is the best, you only visited three times, everyday it is different, That's why I love Sao Paulo, more different girls and food is better. I was in Rio de Janeiro the only thing I miss in Rio de Janeiro is the beach, mongering in Rio de Janeiro was good in the past but now many things changed. Sex in Brazil is not as expensive as many countries, the performance is better. Even if sex is legal in Japan not more expensive than China, no sex is better than in Brazil. I ve never been interested in travelling to Philippines and Thailand, flights are cheaper for these destinations. I am sure if you speak portuguese you will have a better experience and you'll pay less like I do. Only the girl I pay between 300 and 500 all night.

Many people that don't speak portuguese have had good experience but speaking portuguese is better and the key to the success in finding regulars in regular clubs and paying less in sex clubs like bomboa, many other sex clubs, negotiation is important in this kind of place. The way how you act. Brazilians are more open to sex. They are even better than many other latin countries.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2077846]Parque Ibirapuera.[/QUOTE]Thanks everybody for the given info.

Will be in SP from Sept. 24th to 27th. 2nd trip in the last 6 months so looking forward to it. Starting the night at Scandallos and hitting daytime spots like Mirunas, Palm and Brooklin.

Not big on Tangara. Went there the first time and quality was mediocre.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2078364]Thanks everybody for the given info.[/QUOTE]No one beat Brazilians but Hungarians, Czech and Ukrainians beat Russians easily. I have a lot of experience with Russians but I do not even bother anymore. Actually Brazilians are above of all of them, light years away.

My favourite place. Warm hospitality as always.

Checked out Mirunas too but did not tested anyone. Notable were Elisa, Isa and Manuela.

Tested in Enjoy Bibi (morena), Cacau (morena) and Nicolly (branca). All of them provided excellent performance. As usually hard to choose, because the selection was good.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2081335]No one beat Brazilians but Hungarians, Czech and Ukrainians beat Russians easily. I have a lot of experience with Russians but I do not even bother anymore. Actually Brazilians are above of all of them, light years away.[/QUOTE]Is your experience with Russians in SPB or outside of Russia. I can't speak for Moscow but I had amazing adventures in SPB. I think there is a huge diff by Russians in Russia and those outside Russia.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2081505]Is your experience with Russians in SPB or outside of Russia. I can't speak for Moscow but I had amazing adventures in SPB. I think there is a huge diff by Russians in Russia and those outside Russia.[/QUOTE]I've fantastic experiences with Ruskie girls outside of Russia too. Found that they take it in the ass almost about as good as any Brasiliera LOL!

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2081505]Is your experience with Russians in SPB or outside of Russia. I can't speak for Moscow but I had amazing adventures in SPB. I think there is a huge diff by Russians in Russia and those outside Russia.[/QUOTE]Majority inside Russia. Mainly in St. Petersburg but in Moscow too. The best experience was one adult movie actress a few years ago. I speak about two decades of experience with them. I speak their language fluently including most of the math words, if you understand what I mean. Without math words you are not speaking their language.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2081604]Majority inside Russia. Mainly in St. Petersburg but in Moscow too. The best experience was one adult movie actress a few years ago. I speak about two decades of experience with them. I speak their language fluently including most of the math words, if you understand what I mean. Without math words you are not speaking their language.[/QUOTE]I lived in spb 3 years, 2004-06 , never spoke that devilish language fluently but well enough to connect extremely well with a large number of working dyevs and a few choice non pros. Most of the pros I met were new arrivals to salons and were not jaded in the slightest. I would take out to my apt and with champansky and music I was seldom disappointed. Very often the dyev who was cold as ice in the salon lineup would turn into absolute tiger in bed. While I love the affectionate nature of the Brazilians, I have always felt that the unpredictability of the Russians was a huge turn on. There was no script, no set list of phrases or types of moans, each girl was unique and natural, at least in my experience. The only common denominator was that they were all game for a long fuck, the only word in Russian a monger really needs to understand is yeshu (more).

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2081924]The only word in Russian a monger really needs to understand is yeshu (more).[/QUOTE]It was essential that this monger learn the word "Pope-ka" too hahaha!

After a long time I decided to apy a visit to Chanes, nice lounge were you can chat, met Pamela, a petite morena, black, white and brasilindian blood.

Very GFE, good DFK, BBBJ and CIM.

Place is open till 2 PM.

ABG.

Katia, nice mulata from Bahia, slim & petite, nice body, GFE, nice BBBJ and CIM. Better call Tangará and make an appointment with her as she is very requested.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2082968]After a long time I decided to apy a visit to Chanes, nice lounge were you can chat, met Pamela, a petite morena, black, white and brasilindian blood.

Place is open till 2 PM.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Do you mean 2 AM (02:00)?

[QUOTE=EricCartman;2083542]Do you mean 2 AM (02:00)?[/QUOTE]2 AM is correct! Thanks Eric.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2082968]After a long time I decided to apy a visit to Chanes, nice lounge were you can chat, met Pamela, a petite morena, black, white and brasilindian blood.
Very GFE, good DFK, BBBJ and CIM. Place is open till 2 PM. ABG.[/QUOTE]You got lucky. In a good way. I think it is possible to find a good one on a good day. But not everyday. Refer to m post from June 2016.

I was there in June and there were only a few doable girls (maybe they got some new ladies). Plus the lady at the reception tried to overcharge me. You get a lower rate if you take a girl before 21.00 (9 pm).

Even thought I took my girl before 9 pm, the dumb ass receptionist tried to charge me the gringo price. The female manager settled the BS in my favor.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2083897]You got lucky. In a good way. I think it is possible to find a good one on a good day. But not everyday. Refer to m post from June 2016.

I was there in June and there were only a few doable girls (maybe they got some new ladies). Plus the lady at the reception tried to overcharge me. You get a lower rate if you take a girl before 21.00 (9 pm).

Even thought I took my girl before 9 pm, the dumb ass receptionist tried to charge me the gringo price. The female manager settled the BS in my favor.[/QUOTE]While your negative experience is worth noting I would not say it is sufficient to generalize from your one visit, which seems to be a common over reaction on this board.

Changes is an evolving operation and frankly I am rooting for its success because it offers an all day and, ore importantly all night option, until last client, 2-3 am. SP is loaded w daytime options but at night you have only trash boates, absurdly expensive boates, and Casarao. Chanes offers another option and I welcome that, it deserves support. The pricing is reasonable, the location is great, the infrastructure is fine. The selection of girls is the only weak variable bit that is evolving. GPguia reviews are very favorable. I have sessioned repeatedly w 2 there that are fantastic. The overcharge situation you encountered is I assure you not a commonplace, I am positive it was an innocent mistake due to changing pricing model. Despite the paranoia on this site about gring tax, Fefao does not need or care about ripping off gringos. Heis one of true quality owners around.

Fwiw, its now 140 hour every day before 3 pm and all, day on Saturday.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2083910]While your negative experience is worth noting I would not say it is sufficient to generalize from your one visit, which seems to be a common over reaction on this board.

Changes is an evolving operation and frankly I am rooting for its success because it offers an all day and, ore importantly all night option, until last client, 2-3 am. SP is loaded w daytime options but at night you have only trash boates, absurdly expensive boates, and Casarao. Chanes offers another option and I welcome that, it deserves support. The pricing is reasonable, the location is great, the infrastructure is fine. The selection of girls is the only weak variable bit that is evolving. GPguia reviews are very favorable. I have sessioned repeatedly w 2 there that are fantastic. The overcharge situation you encountered is I assure you not a commonplace, I am positive it was an innocent mistake due to changing pricing model. Despite the paranoia on this site about gring tax, Fefao does not need or care about ripping off gringos. Heis one of true quality owners around.

Fwiw, its now 140 hour every day before 3 pm and all, day on Saturday.[/QUOTE]Cannot edit my own report (long story) but I can reply to clarify. Do not mean to sound harsh to PipeLayer, apologies if it came off that way. I was a bit agitated only because this board, in particular the RJ board is always going on about how the Brazilian management lacks common sense and raises prices when demand is down. Also a common complaint is the lack of new places opening, failure to reinvest etc. It was more in this respect that I reacted to the knock on Chanes. If you subtract Fefao's places from SP it would be a poorer mongering experience. He did not need to open Chanes, and it may fail but it is worthy of respect because it is trying to address a market need. As I said, the only thing lacking is a reliable lineup, but this may develop over time as more girls become aware of the option. Assuming there are clients, so it is a classic bootstrap dilemma. All I can say is that the management is clearly trying. If anything there is a price war in SP right now, with the clinicas lowering prices and offering "mileage" programs. Yes, most of these programs require posting on gpguia, but that is not an overwhelming obstacle. From a business perspective it makes sense and after all, a big criticism has been the lack of business sense.

As to PipeLayer's price dispute, such things happen, its always a buyer beware situation in Brazil. There are places that really seek to rip off tourists, more so in Rio with Barbarella's etc, and in SP at the infamous Romanza. But Fefao's clinicas are not in that category, they are actually customer focused places, as are most of the clinicas.

Cheer.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2083910]While your negative experience is worth noting I would not say it is sufficient to generalize from your one visit, which seems to be a common over reaction on this board.

Changes is an evolving operation and frankly I am rooting for its success because it offers an all day and, ore importantly all night option, until last client, 2-3 am. SP is loaded w daytime options but at night you have only trash boates, absurdly expensive boates, and Casarao. Chanes offers another option and I welcome that, it deserves support. The pricing is reasonable, the location is great, the infrastructure is fine. The selection of girls is the only weak variable bit that is evolving. GPguia reviews are very favorable. I have sessioned repeatedly w 2 there that are fantastic. The overcharge situation you encountered is I assure you not a commonplace, I am positive it was an innocent mistake due to changing pricing model. Despite the paranoia on this site about gring tax, Fefao does not need or care about ripping off gringos. Heis one of true quality owners around.

Fwiw, its now 140 hour every day before 3 pm and all, day on Saturday.[/QUOTE]I agree with most except that they will try to RIP Gringos off. The first couple of times I got ripped off being charged 60 for a beer I was naive and payed. The only one there to trust is the female manager who is a gem.

One of the things I like most about Tangara are the hosts who do there best to make you comfortable. The manager at Chanes is in the same vein. All the other houses I have been to are way to cold. Makes it way to much like a doctors office.

[QUOTE=DoMat;2084049]I agree with most except that they will try to RIP Gringos off. The first couple of times I got ripped off being charged 60 for a beer I was naive and payed. The only one there to trust is the female manager who is a gem.

One of the things I like most about Tangara are the hosts who do there best to make you comfortable. The manager at Chanes is in the same vein. All the other houses I have been to are way to cold. Makes it way to much like a doctors office.[/QUOTE]Hold on a second LOL. Maybe this is another case of a gringo THINKING he was ripped off when its possible he just did not understand the ground rules. When Chanes first opened, for a short time it had a cover of 60 reais. Assume beers are really 15 reais on the menu. But if you entered and had 1 beer, you still had to pay the 60 cover. That is not being ripped off, that is just not understanding the cover policy. I am not sure if that was the situation you encountered, but it seems possible. Fwiw, Chanes no longer has a cover. You can enter, sit, chat, eat and drink a la carte.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2083952]Cannot edit my own report (long story) but I can reply to clarify. Do not mean to sound harsh to PipeLayer, apologies if it came off that way. I was a bit agitated only because this board, in particular the RJ board is always going on about how the Brazilian management lacks common sense and raises prices when demand is down. Also a common complaint is the lack of new places opening, failure to reinvest etc. It was more in this respect that I reacted to the knock on Chanes. If you subtract Fefao's places from SP it would be a poorer mongering experience. He did not need to open Chanes, and it may fail but it is worthy of respect because it is trying to address a market need. As I said, the only thing lacking is a reliable lineup, but this may develop over time as more girls become aware of the option. Assuming there are clients, so it is a classic bootstrap dilemma. All I can say is that the management is clearly trying. If anything there is a price war in SP right now, with the clinicas lowering prices and offering "mileage" programs. Yes, most of these programs require posting on gpguia, but that is not an overwhelming obstacle. From a business perspective it makes sense and after all, a big criticism has been the lack of business sense.
As to PipeLayer's price dispute, such things happen, its always a buyer beware situation in Brazil. There are places that really seek to rip off tourists, more so in Rio with Barbarella's etc, and in SP at the infamous Romanza. But Fefao's clinicas are not in that category, they are actually customer focused places, as are most of the clinicas.
Cheer.[/QUOTE]No sweat. Been to Brazil about 20 times, and I have a 10 year Visa. And I can speak Portuguese pretty good too. Not offended by your other post at all. Just keeping it real and honest.

We have to warn each other when shit happens. The same as we should tell each other when good things happen.

In my old post, I was stating some real concerns. The girls there, IMO, weren't all that. Seen and had much better in the clinicas. My 02 cents.

The problem was when I went to pay. The girl at the desk did try to overcharge me. There really is no excuse for that. The manager told me the pricing and made me aware of the time / price structure.

Plus, when you take a girl, they put the girl's name in the book and write the time down. So there is no way it was NOT a mistake.

I had the tour with the manager, and bought a few girls for the girl in her presence, she knew I was straight up. When the exit price came up, I called the manager over, and she fixed it immediately.

Funny how the girl at the desk looked all upset (as if I had taken money from her). That was total bullshit. It was fixed, because I complained. But I hope it doesn't happen to another ISG member.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2084296]No sweat. Been to Brazil about 20 times, and I have a 10 year Visa. And I can speak Portuguese pretty good too. Not offended by your other post at all. Just keeping it real and honest.

We have to warn each other when shit happens. The same as we should tell each other when good things happen.

In my old post, I was stating some real concerns. The girls there, IMO, weren't all that. Seen and had much better in the clinicas. My 02 cents.

The problem was when I went to pay. The girl at the desk did try to overcharge me. There really is no excuse for that. The manager told me the pricing and made me aware of the time / price structure.

Plus, when you take a girl, they put the girl's name in the book and write the time down. So there is no way it was NOT a mistake.

I had the tour with the manager, and bought a few girls for the girl in her presence, she knew I was straight up. When the exit price came up, I called the manager over, and she fixed it immediately.

Funny how the girl at the desk looked all upset (as if I had taken money from her). That was total bullshit. It was fixed, because I complained. But I hope it doesn't happen to another ISG member.[/QUOTE]Never been in Chanes 57 and have not got any charging issues anywhere in SP. I always pay before not after, to avoid any possible'misunderstanding' to with whoever it may occurred.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2084104]Hold on a second LOL. Maybe this is another case of a gringo THINKING he was ripped off when its possible he just did not understand the ground rules. When Chanes first opened, for a short time it had a cover of 60 reais. Assume beers are really 15 reais on the menu. But if you entered and had 1 beer, you still had to pay the 60 cover. That is not being ripped off, that is just not understanding the cover policy. I am not sure if that was the situation you encountered, but it seems possible. Fwiw, Chanes no longer has a cover. You can enter, sit, chat, eat and drink a la carte.[/QUOTE]I like the place and hope it succeeds.

As for getting ripped off it is possible that it was just a mistake and the person who cashed me out wasn't aware they stopped the cover charge. But others who I was with and left before me were not charged. This happened twice but it was on the bubble of them removing the ticket system.

But this was a a fairly long while ago now. The last few times I did not have this problem.

Was in SP for a week or so, thought I'd check out Scandalo, which is not on my normal circuit.

I'm not usually in to the high end, usually over-priced venues.

I showed up by Uber, right before 7 pm, they were very nice at the reception, and I was explained that I'd get the early bird deal of 150 BR entry, all consumable.

Got the grand tour and had a seat at the restaurant.

I was literally the only guy in the place, so I was being winked and smiled by about 30 girls at this point, LOL.

Had a nice dinner, used up the 150 BR plus a little.

Walked around a bit, some dudes started showing up, and at 9 or 10 pm, the place was full.

There was a table outside with some rich (looking) Japonese guys.

All the cute little blond spinners lined up close to their table, smiling and looking sexy, just hoping to get picked.

It was interesting to watch.

Anyway, nothing there that would warrant 500 BR plus for me, so I left, grabbed and Uber to Casarao where I got lucky and met a real sweetheart from Minas, and we had a blast for a total of 200 BR.

The rooms there are a constant at 40 or 80 BR for 40 or 60 min.

The girls can charge whatever they want.

I told her I had 200 BR total to give, and she said "sim amor" LOL.

Scandalo is elegant and classy for sure, just not worth it for me.

Good food, some hot girls, though nothing better than I'd find in the top Casarao girls, or CLínica girls.

It's for guys who don't mind a 1000 BR night.

Which is OK, however, if in SP for a length of time, that would add up quickly.

Enjoy guys!

Today there will be a bikini parade starting at 3 PM, no entrance feee, all are welcome! Strio tease shows included!

ABG.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2084325]Was in SP for a week or so, thought I'd check out Scandalo, which is not on my normal circuit.

I'm not usually in to the high end, usually over-priced venues.

I showed up by Uber, right before 7 pm, they were very nice at the reception, and I was explained that I'd get the early bird deal of 150 BR entry, all consumable.

Got the grand tour and had a seat at the restaurant.

I was literally the only guy in the place, so I was being winked and smiled by about 30 girls at this point, LOL.

Had a nice dinner, used up the 150 BR plus a little.

Walked around a bit, some dudes started showing up, and at 9 or 10 pm, the place was full.

There was a table outside with some rich (looking) Japonese guys.

All the cute little blond spinners lined up close to their table, smiling and looking sexy, just hoping to get picked.

It was interesting to watch.

Anyway, nothing there that would warrant 500 BR plus for me, so I left, grabbed and Uber to Casarao where I got lucky and met a real sweetheart from Minas, and we had a blast for a total of 200 BR.

The rooms there are a constant at 40 or 80 BR for 40 or 60 min.

The girls can charge whatever they want.

I told her I had 200 BR total to give, and she said "sim amor" LOL.

Scandalo is elegant and classy for sure, just not worth it for me.

Good food, some hot girls, though nothing better than I'd find in the top Casarao girls, or CLnica girls.

It's for guys who don't mind a 1000 BR night.

Which is OK, however, if in SP for a length of time, that would add up quickly.

Enjoy guys![/QUOTE]Also Chanés has a good selection of girls for a much better price. And Saturday you have the famous feijoada or churrasco, dependind on the day.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2084572]Also Chans has a good selection of girls for a much better price. And Saturday you have the famous feijoada or churrasco, dependind on the day.[/QUOTE]What kinds of woman are there in Chanes? I have never been there. Are there whites? (German and Italian Brazilians). If so I will try it in my next trip.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2084672]What kinds of woman are there in Chanes? I have never been there. Are there whites? (German and Italian Brazilians). If so I will try it in my next trip.[/QUOTE]Come on, you should know Brazil well enough to know that there are very few clubs that have a certain kind of woman, particularly in sao paulo. They have whoever shows up for work.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2084748]Come on, you should know Brazil well enough to know that there are very few clubs that have a certain kind of woman, particularly in sao paulo. They have whoever shows up for work.[/QUOTE]I don't know Brazil well, it is a big country. I only know Rio de Janeiro and Porto Alegre very well. I only stayed a few weeks in Sao paulo, I am still a beginner in Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo is a big city with many places so I need more time to know SP well enough. I haven't been to every club. I only visited 6 clubs. Some clubs I visited more often. It is not in few weeks you ll know SP. SP is way different than Rio de Janeiro and Porto Alegre.

I've been to few clubs in Sao Paulo. What I know some clubs have a better selection than some others.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2084875]I don't know Brazil well, it is a big country. I only know Rio de Janeiro and Porto Alegre very well. I only stayed a few weeks in Sao paulo, I am still a beginner in Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo is a big city with many places so I need more time to know SP well enough. I haven't been to every club. I only visited 6 clubs. Some clubs I visited more often. It is not in few weeks you ll know SP. SP is way different than Rio de Janeiro and Porto Alegre.

I've been to few clubs in Sao Paulo. What I know some clubs have a better selection than some others.[/QUOTE]But what do you mean by better? Better looking regardless of ethnicity or more of a particular ethnic type? "Better" is a loaded word in this hobby. It's easier to speak of quantity than quality. There are places with 10 girls, large clinicas with 10-20 girls and the big boates with 50.

These questions come up a lot, one guy even asked which place had more big naturals. Sao Paulo is an extremely diverse population w people from all parts of Brazil represented. When a place has 10-20 girls, the addition or subtraction of a few of one type, blonde or mulata for example, may change your impressions of that place. But these are usually daily and weekly fluctuations. The turnover on these places is high so its impossible to characterize them long term imo in terms of types. There are no places where it's wall to wall blondes or wall to wall mulatas or japas. The only places I can think of that seem to have a quota system are the expensive clinicas like the Palms, Lotus Lounge and France Bel. Those places tend to be snobbish and seem to manage their roster to have a lot of european types and few if any Afro or Indian Brazilians.

I can say that higher end places have a lot of eye candy and trash places have mostly uglies. The mid ramge places like TG and Chanes etc have a mix, but it all comes down to personal taste. I seldom see more than 2 girls out od 10 that I really wheras some guys like 8 ot of 10. In my case I just visit as many as possible and leave without sessioning if I don't see what I like. I really think that is all one can do.

Maybe other members have different impresions of SP clubs in terms of the "kinds" of girls. I would be interested to hear.

Agree with Rovnak. Not an expert of SP by any means but don't believe there is a place with concentration of one ethnicity. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and there are many all around SP.

Just go with the flow and you will have a great time. I am back in SP next week so will report back.

The itinerary will mostly be like this:

Brooklin / Mirunas during the daytime. Will be checking out Chanes as well as we didn't know about it during the last visit.

Scandallo / Bamboa from 7 pm until midnight.

Casarao to finish the night.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2085055]But what do you mean by better? Better looking regardless of ethnicity or more of a particular ethnic type? "Better" is a loaded word in this hobby. It's easier to speak of quantity than quality. There are places with 10 girls, large clinicas with 10-20 girls and the big boates with 50.

These questions come up a lot, one guy even asked which place had more big naturals. Sao Paulo is an extremely diverse population w people from all parts of Brazil represented. When a place has 10-20 girls, the addition or subtraction of a few of one type, blonde or mulata for example, may change your impressions of that place. But these are usually daily and weekly fluctuations. The turnover on these places is high so its impossible to characterize them long term imo in terms of types. There are no places where it's wall to wall blondes or wall to wall mulatas or japas. The only places I can think of that seem to have a quota system are the expensive clinicas like the Palms, Lotus Lounge and France Bel. Those places tend to be snobbish and seem to manage their roster to have a lot of european types and few if any Afro or Indian Brazilians..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xkalibur80;2085279]Agree with Rovnak. Not an expert of SP by any means but don't believe there is a place with concentration of one ethnicity. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and there are many all around SP.

Just go with the flow and you will have a great time. I am back in SP next week so will report back.

The itinerary will mostly be like this:

Brooklin / Mirunas during the daytime. Will be checking out Chanes as well as we didn't know about it during the last visit.

Scandallo / Bamboa from 7 pm until midnight.

Casarao to finish the night.[/QUOTE]I would add Tangará on the clinicas afternoon visit.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2084570]Today there will be a bikini parade starting at 3 PM, no entrance feee, all are welcome! Strip tease shows included!

ABG.[/QUOTE]Party was great, som 30 girls in house, one strip tease and aother girl to girl show.

I went with Sharon, the stripper, very good TD.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2085055]But what do you mean by better? Better looking regardless of ethnicity or more of a particular ethnic type? "Better" is a loaded word in this hobby. It's easier to speak of quantity than quality. There are places with 10 girls, large clinicas with 10-20 girls and the big boates with 50.

These questions come up a lot, one guy even asked which place had more big naturals. Sao Paulo is an extremely diverse population w people from all parts of Brazil represented. When a place has 10-20 girls, the addition or subtraction of a few of one type, blonde or mulata for example, may change your impressions of that place. But these are usually daily and weekly fluctuations. The turnover on these places is high so its impossible to characterize them long term imo in terms of types. There are no places where it's wall to wall blondes or wall to wall mulatas or japas. The only places I can think of that seem to have a quota system are the expensive clinicas like the Palms, Lotus Lounge and France Bel. Those places tend to be snobbish and seem to manage their roster to have a lot of european types and few if any Afro or Indian Brazilians.

I can say that higher end places have a lot of eye candy and trash places have mostly uglies. The mid ramge places like TG and Chanes etc have a mix, but it all comes down to personal taste. I seldom see more than 2 girls out od 10 that I really wheras some guys like 8 ot of 10. In my case I just visit as many as possible and leave without sessioning if I don't see what I like. I really think that is all one can do.

Maybe other members have different impresions of SP clubs in terms of the "kinds" of girls. I would be interested to hear.[/QUOTE]Better looking women, more of a particular ethnic type, in every place you can find better looking women like every city in Brazil Ex in Bomboa and Scandalo I found more women for my liking (particular ethnic type) some clubs I am more likely to fuck women for my liking. I know every club has many kinds of woman and there are all kinds of women in SP. In Casarao, I am more likely to fuck good looking women regardless ethnicity. I never found a woman for my liking there EX a good looking black, Indian or Asian, I ll fuck them because they are good looking not because they are more to my liking.

Thanks for sharing the names of the clinicas. I ll check them in my next trip.

Sadly, the outstanding Nordico map is gone again! Is it coming back? Nordico?

[QUOTE=Komo753;2085855]Better looking women, more of a particular ethnic type, in every place you can find better looking women like every city in Brazil Ex in Bomboa and Scandalo I found more women for my liking (particular ethnic type) some clubs I am more likely to fuck women for my liking. I know every club has many kinds of woman and there are all kinds of women in SP. In Casarao, I am more likely to fuck good looking women regardless ethnicity. I never found a woman for my liking there EX a good looking black, Indian or Asian, I ll fuck them because they are good looking not because they are more to my liking.

Thanks for sharing the names of the clinicas. I ll check them in my next trip.[/QUOTE]I still am not sure what you hoped for in response to your question. By all means visit these other places but don't expect any clubs to compare to Bomboa, Scandalo and Cafe Photo in terms of glitz and quantity. If that is what you like just go there every night. I would if I could afford it. I like those places, I like the large selection, the larger the better. I just can't afford to go there all the time, and I have the luxury of time to visit the daytime places and find what I consider to be the occasional gem. Then I add that gem to my rotation. But I understand that visitors do not have that luxury, so I encourage visitors to do whatever they can afford to do.

The smaller places and the clinicas are never going to compare to those clubs in terms of selection. What frustrates me is that guys on these boards constantly try to stereotype places and women based on their one or 2 visits or their limited interactions. The clinicas defy stereotyping. The turnover is too high and the staff sizes are too small to speak of them in stereotypical terms. Anyway, have fun.

I must say I am impressed by the recent moves by Fefao. I call his latest maneuvers "the empire strikes back".

All of his casas, Mirunas, Enjoy, Chanes, them have promotions and I have found gems at each one. I am glad to see this improvement in quality and customer service. The receptionists are also quite good. In contrast, I find Brooklin the receptionists at Brooklin to be ridiculously beaurocratic with their nazi like approach to the gpguia fidelity card verification. I feel like I need to show up there with a certified copy of my TDs, like I should visit the cartorio before going there and have certified copies printed and stamped for the nazista recepcionistas.

Tangara continues to be Tangara. Good reception, a lot of girls, few to my taste, a lot of turnover, their pricing benefits short time visitors as they do not require gpguia postings. One negative, I think they overwork their stars, then the stars leave and the below average ones stick around forever. I have personally heard some top girls their complain about overwork, insufficient recovery time be / t clients.

Some of the other houses are also lowering prices to the 150 level, though most require postings.

I have been to Brazil only 2 times but I have been to SA at least 30 times. I have made many reports. If a member asks what ethnic chicas may be found at a therma I think that's a ligit question. I have read many reports were a member has reported that a place has many blond blue eyed chicas or many big butt chicas. Many members like me look for these kind of reports. OK so when a member asks for a bordello that has chicas with big boobs that gives me a chuckle. But how many times have we read reports from members reporting that a place has many chicas with grande bondas. I'm sure I mispelled both words but you get the point.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2086540]Tangara continues to be Tangara. Good reception, a lot of girls, few to my taste, a lot of turnover, their pricing benefits short time visitors as they do not require gpguia postings. One negative, I think they overwork their stars, then the stars leave and the below average ones stick around forever. I have personally heard some top girls their complain about overwork, insufficient recovery time be / t clients.

Some of the other houses are also lowering prices to the 150 level, though most require postings.[/QUOTE]If the Amish ever got into the brothel business, it would be Tangara. Men on side while the parade through from the other side of the house go back to their side of the house. POLEASE! What a fucking waste, no mingling, no conversation! WTF! I haven't been there in almost three years and I live here!

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2086684]I have been to Brazil only 2 times but I have been to SA at least 30 times. I have made many reports. If a member asks what ethnic chicas may be found at a therma I think that's a ligit question. I have read many reports were a member has reported that a place has many blond blue eyed chicas or many big butt chicas. Many members like me look for these kind of reports. OK so when a member asks for a bordello that has chicas with big boobs that gives me a chuckle. But how many times have we read reports from members reporting that a place has many chicas with grande bondas. I'm sure I mispelled both words but you get the point.[/QUOTE]There are some places in the world where such characterizations may apply. For example I am sure there are clubs in Dubai and places like that where one can reliably say "there are nice eastern european girls in this club". But in Sao Paulo, I just don't think such characterizations are really possible. Sure guys write reports and it is good that they mention what they saw, we all like to read that. But that was that night at that club. My point is that the SP clubs are constantly changing girls and this turnover generally reflects that demographics of Brazil. A lot of morena claras, a bunch of blondes, a few mulatas, and very few indigenas. We all have our preferences, and we all want to find that place that is loaded with our preferences but I don't think it exists outside of the case I mentioned. The high end clinicas that cater to the taste of wealthy brazilians and therefore have quite a few european looking girls. The palms, lotus lounge, francebel. The vast majority of the places have whoever shows up for work that day, generally representative of the country's demographics.

You have to appreciate some guys like Komo753 have been on the RJ board. On the RJ board, they have been discussing for years where to find big butts, thinner girls, busty girls, brancas, mulattas and negras. In fact, guys on the RJ board say if you want more European-type girls go to Sao Paulo. I don't think that's necessary, but it has been said recently. I think RJ offers plenty of diversity, but the venues tend to have distinct types. The Sao Paulo venues each on their own might be diverse melting pots as they say.

I'm not sure of Komo753's ethnicity, but some guys who are not of European descent can't wait to hit a country like Brazil, Germany, Canada, etc. And bang girls of European descent. So cut a brother some slack.

I love the fact that there is very little use for political correctness here. I can say I want to fuck a beautiful, black Brasileira with a big bunda in the ass and a black ISG member will affirm "hell yeah".

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2086932]In fact, guys on the RJ board say if you want more European-type girls go to Sao Paulo. I don't think that's necessary, but it has been said recently. I think RJ offers plenty of diversity, but the venues tend to have distinct types. The Sao Paulo venues each on their own might be diverse melting pots as they say. I love the fact that there is very little use for political correctness here. I can say I want to fuck a beautiful, black Brasileira with a big bunda in the ass and a black ISG member will affirm "hell yeah".[/QUOTE]I agree with this 100% on Rio's diversity. You don't need to go to Sampa to find brancas! There is more than enough diversity in Rio. That's normally where I've gone when I've visited Brazil, and just look at all of the pictures of brancas I've posted over the years. So, I'm not just saying it. I have proof! I tend not to agree with a lot of what a guy like FuckafMedDig says anyway, especially on this topic. We're just not the same kind of monger, and I see the field very differently. "Alternative facts" LOL? I'm much, much more like Rovnak, who I agree with almost all of the time.

And, as I said, I present photographic evidence to back up what I say about the availability of brancas in Rio! Everybody knows I'm addicted to fucking big bunda Brazilian blondes in their butt holes LOLOLOL! Can I get an amen Wyatt Earp? Hahaha! Now, if I wasn't finding that type in abundance in Rio, then why the hell would I keep going there? Yeah, Sao Paulo may not be as overwhelmingly "brown" as Rio is, but believe me when I say if it's brancas you want, then it's brancas Rio has got! Just remember that a monger like FuckafMedDig has a dismissive attitude towards brancas because "he can find those back home", so why go to Brazil to fuck brancas? He isn't even looking for them folks. Now me, I like to fuck the brancas and the morenas, so that's what I have an eagle eye for. And as my pics show, they are both available in strong numbers in Rio, at least strong enough to sate this monger's appetites.

Tangara's website appears to be no more: [URL]www.clinicatangara.com.br[/URL]. That's unfortunate considering that among the clinicas, Tangara had one of the better sites. Anybody know what the deal is? Is it just down for awhile, or is it gone for good?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2086932]You have to appreciate some guys like Komo753 have been on the RJ board. On the RJ board, they have been discussing for years where to find big butts, thinner girls, busty girls, brancas, mulattas and negras. In fact, guys on the RJ board say if you want more European-type girls go to Sao Paulo. I don't think that's necessary, but it has been said recently. I think RJ offers plenty of diversity, but the venues tend to have distinct types. The Sao Paulo venues each on their own might be diverse melting pots as they say.

I'm not sure of Komo753's ethnicity, but some guys who are not of European descent can't wait to hit a country like Brazil, Germany, Canada, etc. And bang girls of European descent. So cut a brother some slack.

I love the fact that there is very little use for political correctness here. I can say I want to fuck a beautiful, black Brasileira with a big bunda in the ass and a black ISG member will affirm "hell yeah".[/QUOTE]It's not a question of cutting anyone slack. Like I said, I understand the motivation for the question. I sympathize, I have preferences and I want to find those preferences too. I would love to be able to say "place X has this" and "place why has that" etc. I wish there were places that had lineups which were predictable in this regard. I am only responding with honesty, not derision, when I say that I don't know of such places.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2087026]I agree with this 100% on Rio's diversity. You don't need to go to Sampa to find brancas! There is more than enough diversity in Rio. That's normally where I've gone when I've visited Brazil, and just look at all of the pictures of brancas I've posted over the years. So, I'm not just saying it. I have proof! I tend not to agree with a lot of what a guy like FuckafMedDig says anyway, especially on this topic. We're just not the same kind of monger, and I see the field very differently. "Alternative facts" LOL? I'm much, much more like Rovnak, who I agree with almost all of the time.

And, as I said, I present photographic evidence to back up what I say about the availability of brancas in Rio! Everybody knows I'm addicted to fucking big bunda Brazilian blondes in their butt holes LOLOLOL! Can I get an amen Wyatt Earp? Hahaha! Now, if I wasn't finding that type in abundance in Rio, then why the hell would I keep going there? Yeah, Sao Paulo may not be as overwhelmingly "brown" as Rio is, but believe me when I say if it's brancas you want, then it's brancas Rio has got! Just remember that a monger like FuckafMedDig has a dismissive attitude towards brancas because "he can find those back home", so why go to Brazil to fuck brancas? He isn't even looking for them folks. Now me, I like to fuck the brancas and the morenas, so that's what I have an eagle eye for. And as my pics show, they are both available in strong numbers in Rio, at least strong enough to sate this monger's appetites.[/QUOTE]I saw more brancas in Sao Paulo, mongering in Sao Paulo is better than mongering in Rio de Janeiro. It is my own experience. There are many whites in Canada I still prefer whites and like to go to Brazil to fuck white girls. Nothing is better than fucking a white girl in a sunny country. I am tired of the cold. I prefer women that are white-skinned as I am.

I am now living in Tokyo and I've never had yellow fever.

I found more beautiful white women in Sao Paulo. I agree with you there is a strong diversity of women in Rio de Janeiro but unfortunately the Brothels in Rio de Janeiro are as diverse as it was before.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2087247]I saw more brancas in Sao Paulo. I agree with you there is a strong diversity of women in Rio de Janeiro but unfortunately the Brothels in Rio de Janeiro are not as diverse as it was before.[/QUOTE]There may have been more in Sao Paulo, but my point was that there are more than enough in Rio. At least for me. Well, at least there used to be. Things can and do change. Doesn't matter because when I hit Brazil again, I will be going to both Sampa and The Marvelous City!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2087026]I agree with this 100% on Rio's diversity. You don't need to go to Sampa to find brancas! There is more than enough diversity in Rio. That's normally where I've gone when I've visited Brazil, and just look at all of the pictures of brancas I've posted over the years. So, I'm not just saying it. I have proof! I tend not to agree with a lot of what a guy like FuckafMedDig says anyway, especially on this topic. We're just not the same kind of monger, and I see the field very differently. "Alternative facts" LOL? I'm much, much more like Rovnak, who I agree with almost all of the time.

[/QUOTE]Of course there are brancas to be had in Rio, you've showed us the proof.

It is a fact, however, that Rio has more of a black ethnicity than São Paulo, and subsequently more in the PFP biz as well.

I prefer the dark skin, so I prefer Rio as a monger city, because of the generally darker ethnicity.

I hit VM on Friday night, the vast majority of girls were of dark skin.

Contrastly, I was in SP a week ago and hit the "trash" venues there as well, predominantly white girls.

It's just the way it is.

Yes, plenty of brancas in Rio, but yes, many more in SP.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2087380]Yes, plenty of brancas in Rio, but yes, many more in SP.[/QUOTE]My point was (and particularly for the benefit of noobs) that there are still more than enough brancas in Rio if that's what you want (unless something has changed). Now remember that I prefer Rio over Sao Paulo for a number of reasons. One of them is the fact that Rio is indeed "browner" than Sao Paulo, bringing it that diversity that Wyatt Earp and I have talked about. I want some "caramel" to go with my "vanilla", the latter of which I have found in sufficient numbers in Rio to satisfy me. If I can do that, then so too can somebody else. One of the drawbacks with my second favorite place to monger, the German FKKs, is that there are not enough girls of color. By the end of the trip, I'm always reminded of why Brazil remains number one for me. This is one of the reasons, along with Rio being the best destination in the world for PSE sex that I have yet to discover, regardless of the girl's color LOL.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2087247]I am now living in Tokyo and I've never had yellow fever.[/QUOTE]Too bad. There is a segment of the Japanese female population that is curious about gaijin. As they are typically shy, you need to press the situation if you get a look or smile.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2087135]Tangara's website appears to be no more: [URL]www.clinicatangara.com.br[/URL]. That's unfortunate considering that among the clinicas, Tangara had one of the better sites. Anybody know what the deal is? Is it just down for awhile, or is it gone for good?[/QUOTE]The website will be ok soon, according to Vaní, the manager.

Rio and even more Sao Paulo are such huge, diverse cities that one can find plenty of whatever type girl they like.

I love caramel / brown women and I think Sao Paulo has the most beautiful women in the World. Rio, Mde, Caracas are great also, but nothing matches SP for sheer numbers of spectacular women.

[QUOTE=Combo;2087932]Rio and even more Sao Paulo are such huge, diverse cities that one can find plenty of whatever type girl they like.

I love caramel / brown women and I think Sao Paulo has the most beautiful women in the World. Rio, Mde, Caracas are great also, but nothing matches SP for sheer numbers of spectacular women.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Its really ridiculous arguing about the demographics of GPS in cities with respectively 7 and 20 million people. In Brazil of all places where all shades are present and an individual monger is likely to sample a tiny fraction of the supply. If you can't find what you are looking for in either SP or Rio you have just not looked hard enough.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2087846]The website will be ok soon, according to Van, the manager.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's back!

[URL]http://www.clinicatangara.com.br/[/URL]

I was in SP earlier this year and visited a bordello that offered a discount after 5 visits. Customers were given a card with the date of the visit stamped. Can someone help me with the name of the place. My memory isn't what it once was. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2088476]I was in SP earlier this year and visited a bordello that offered a discount after 5 visits. Customers were given a card with the date of the visit stamped. Can someone help me with the name of the place. My memory isn't what it once was. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Was it Clinica Brooklin?

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2088476]I was in SP earlier this year and visited a bordello that offered a discount after 5 visits. Customers were given a card with the date of the visit stamped. Can someone help me with the name of the place. My memory isn't what it once was. Thanks.[/QUOTE]When I visited Tangara, I saw a sign that said 50% off on a 6th visit. Also, the website still says bring a friend and get 10% off.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2088476]I was in SP earlier this year and visited a bordello that offered a discount after 5 visits. Customers were given a card with the date of the visit stamped. Can someone help me with the name of the place. My memory isn't what it once was. Thanks.[/QUOTE]We ran into each other at Tangara. Address is Rua Tangara 200.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2088476]I was in SP earlier this year and visited a bordello that offered a discount after 5 visits. Customers were given a card with the date of the visit stamped. Can someone help me with the name of the place. My memory isn't what it once was. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I go to a clinica that gives out Monopoly game pieces. All I need now is Boardwalk to complete the game board and win a festa with twenty girls.

Gosh Wyattearp it was so nice to hear from you we were wondering how you were doing in the nursing home. Just think, on the days when you slip back into reality you have all of those nice Monoply toys to play with. Some days you may like to play that wonderful board game and act like you have a friend playing with you. Its funny, as some people get older they revert back to childlike manners.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2089258]Gosh Wyattearp it was so nice to hear from you we were wondering how you were doing in the nursing home. Just think, on the days when you slip back into reality you have all of those nice Monoply toys to play with. Some days you may like to play that wonderful board game and act like you have a friend playing with you. Its funny, as some people get older they revert back to childlike manners.[/QUOTE]It's a little joke. I find it funny (and great) that a bordello has a frequent buyer program. If you're an American, you know McDonalds has been running a Monopoly prize game for years.

My nursing home is partly underwater after the recent hurricane, but the water sex with the old ladies here is pretty good. Otherwise, things get kind of dry if you know what I mean. ;-)

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2088496]We ran into each other at Tangara. Address is Rua Tangara 200.[/QUOTE]Dandara, very good looking mulata medium size, DFK, BBBJ and CIM. No anal. Very good CWG.

Yesterday 22 girls were a Tangara. IMO the best place on Sunday afternoon.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2089997]Dandara, very good looking mulata medium size, DFK, BBBJ and CIM. No anal. Very good CWG.

Yesterday 22 girls were a Tangara. IMO the best place on Sunday afternoon.

ABG.[/QUOTE]For the ones who prefer an European type girl go with Vicky, a young and tall girl, 19 YO, DFK, BBBJ and CIM. TD done yesterday afternoon.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;2088490]Was it Clinica Brooklin?[/QUOTE]For 500 Alex.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2087380]

Contrastly, I was in SP a week ago and hit the "trash" venues there as well, predominantly white girls.


Yes, plenty of brancas in Rio, but yes, many more in SP.[/QUOTE]Which trash places would you recommend?

[QUOTE=Balboa;2087380]Contrastly, I was in SP a week ago and hit the "trash" venues there as well, predominantly white girls.

It's just the way it is.

Yes, plenty of brancas in Rio, but yes, many more in SP.[/QUOTE]Have been living / working in SP for going on three yrs, "predominantly white girls" is not such a bad thing.

It's been my experience that when you hook up with a black girl in SP, 9 out 10 times they will be scammers. They'll tell you they'll do anal on the floor and when you get in the room they'll refuse. You'll negotiate a GFE, when you get to the room they refuse. When you complain to management they lie their asses off. One black girl I was talking to on lower Augusta smelled so bad I found it hard to believe she was serious. 9 out of 10 of them will have crappy looking weaves. They'll pester you to buy them drinks. They tend to prefer well-off, older white dudes. Learned my lesson the hard way about black chicks in SP. The majority of them will be from Bahia.

IMHO: black girls in SP are a serious waste of time.

They'll either be emaciated or fatter than shit with terrible teeth & breath, bad weaves and ridiculous clothes. Also, they are rude and ill mannered. Once I was standing with my back to a mirror at Casarao and this ugly skinny tall black chick with a fake ass blonde wig tried to body check me out of the way, she weighed maybe 100 lbs. Soaking wet. When she made contact with me she lost her balance due to the fucked up high heels she was wearing, she fell on her ass and spilled her drink. Then she told security I had pushed her and demanded I buy her another drink. Get this it looked like she was drinking water but she demanded I buy her a Red Bull and whisky. I think because she knew I was a gringo she could run her game on me (she had approached me on another day and I simply told her "hoppa' fora moça'. Dumb ass!

Luckily witnesses contradicted her worthless lying ass!

I often see the Brazilian Orgy parties in Porn videos, where do these parties Happen, currently I am visiting sao Paulo and have plans to travel to Rio de janeiro, florianopolis, thanks in advance.

NN.

If you are looking for a good parade of genuine paulista mulatas, Tangara is the place. Ther are around half dozen of them.

Yesterday, arrived at the place 4 pm, almost 40 girls on parade!

Decided to go with Dandara, a Mulata Sargentelli style Escola de samba body! She comes in early but also leaves early.

Today Tangara will be open from 10 am till 10 pm.

P.S. Sargentelli was a promoter of shows only with mulatas and negras years ago. He used to run a house named Oba Oba on Av. Paulista.

ABG.

[QUOTE=NangaNachi;2091558]I often see the Brazilian Orgy parties in Porn videos, where do these parties Happen, currently I am visiting sao Paulo and have plans to travel to Rio de janeiro, florianopolis, thanks in advance.

NN.[/QUOTE]There is no regular schedules for these parties. In the past, I used to organize some pool parties. Contact me in advance by PM.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2081505]Is your experience with Russians in SPB or outside of Russia. I can't speak for Moscow but I had amazing adventures in SPB. I think there is a huge diff by Russians in Russia and those outside Russia.[/QUOTE]Russian girls outside of Russian were good. I visited a Russian girl lived in Paris regularly. Gorgeous looking, very nice service attitude. Also my universal best experience was with a Russian girl in HK. However I can't find her anymore. That's pity.

[QUOTE=HeroLidaye;2094150]Russian girls outside of Russian were good. I visited a Russian girl lived in Paris regularly. Gorgeous looking, very nice service attitude. Also my universal best experience was with a Russian girl in HK. However I can't find her anymore. That's pity.[/QUOTE]I sessioned a Russian in King Hing Building in Hong Kong earlier this year, her name was Olga. She had been to Brazil and loved the country and the culture, she was very good.

Second trip to Sampa next month I stayed at the Mercure moema last time going to stay at a different one this time any recommendations? And what bars does anyone have a sports bar they recommend to watch American football on Sundays?

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2094550]Second trip to Sampa next month I stayed at the Mercure moema last time going to stay at a different one this time any recommendations? And what bars does anyone have a sports bar they recommend to watch American football on Sundays?[/QUOTE]IMHO. Your best bet would be, in my preferred order.

1). Hooters.

Alameda Ribeirao Preta, 384.

Bela Vista, SP 01331-000.

2). Blue Pub.

Alameda Joaquim Eugenio de Lima, 612.

Jardins.

3). O'Malleys*.

Alameda Itu, 1529.

Jardim Paulista.

Would suggest you arrive early. Other bars may have the game (s) on, but be prepared for a bunch of brasilieros to come in during the game and demand the channel be changed to futebol. There's actually a Green Bay Packers / Manchester Utd. Sports bar on lower Augusta, past rua Dr. Pentaforte Mendes travelling northeast toward Republica on the westbound traffic side of the street, forgot the name. They actually have damn good food (the chili cheese fries are fucking awesome) and the prices aren't bad either. Lots of college aged punk & goth garotas hanging out smoking weed & getting drunk. Blue Pub is great for scoping out / picking up hot, and I mean seriously hot yuppie chicks. Hooters, plenty of eye candy, if you can get a seat at the bar and chat up the bartenders. The waitress and hostess chicks will be too busy working as the the placed all be packed. Across the street from Hooters are a string of bars with outdoor seating and several big screens. They might have the game on a big screen or two. I watched the last Mayweather fight there.

* IMHO: O'Malley's is seriously over-priced, it's also a magnet for drunk ex-pat asshole Kiwis, Aussies, Irish & Brits looking to start some shit. Especially if there's rugby on the tube. Was there in Oct '14, had to sucker punch a drunk Aussie who said the NFL was for pussies because they have to wear helmets. Needless to say, I was banned for two years. Hope this helps, one last note; take an Uber.

Go Navy!

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2095287]IMHO. Your best bet would be, in my preferred order.

1). Hooters.

Alameda Ribeirao Preta, 384.

Bela Vista, SP 01331-000.

2). Blue Pub.

Alameda Joaquim Eugenio de Lima, 612.

Jardins.

3). O'Malleys*.

Alameda Itu, 1529.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir, you may of answered my first question too, look for a hotel in Bella vista (hooters) LOL.

A few weeks ago on a trip to RIO weather in MIA changed my plans and I ended up in SPO for a few days. Making the best of my unscheduled trip I wanted to visit a place I enjoyed from an earlier trip but I couldn't remember the name. Members came to my rescue and I want to thank all especially Larry david. The place was Tangara. After some recoup time from a very long trip I visited Tangara. Papason introduced me to 12 girls. I chose and asked for Paulina. Papason said no Paulina I said there she is in the yellow dress he said OH you mean Paulina. Must be a language barrier. This turned out to be the best sex I have had in Brazil. I would recommend Paulina and since my last visit the price has gone down to 150 R for an hour. I will be back.

I'm preparing for an upcoming trio to SP. I'm doing a little online shopping and I am finding some serious babes on the escort sites. I'm talking like the hottest chicks I've ever seen. How do I know if these are real or fake? Below are some examples.

[URL]http://escortsvogue.com/your-gorgeous-escort-barbie-girl-sao-paulo-elise-gatinha/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.asbellasspacompanhantes.com/acompanhantessp.htm[/URL] - several of the chicks on this site (e. G. Yana, Livia Bassani, Suzane, Eduarda Fischer).

[URL]http://brazilindependentescorts.com/acompanhantesp-rubya-laos.htm[/URL]

[URL]http://callgirlsinsaopaulo.com.br/escort-virginie.htm[/URL]

The list goes on and on. How do I know whether these are the real girls or whether I will order these girls and a swamp donkey will show up? Are there any sites that I can trust and any that I can't trust? Obviously, if anyone knows anything about these specific girls please let me know. If these girls are real I'm in for one helluva trip!

[QUOTE=Glenn10;2095722]swamp donkey [/QUOTE]Swamp donkey. LMAO.

Another good reliable Sampa GDP site is [URL]clubmodel.com[/URL]. Never had a problem with it.

[QUOTE=NangaNachi;2091558]I often see the Brazilian Orgy parties in Porn videos, where do these parties Happen, currently I am visiting sao Paulo and have plans to travel to Rio de janeiro, florianopolis, thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The bad news is. It's PORN! Do you seriously think we can help you get an invite to participate in a porn orgy party?

The good news is anything is possible in Brazil. If you put your mind and money to it, you can organize your own small orgy. I know in Rio it was possible to get some termas girls who were friendly and comfortable with each other to meet at a large apartment or love hotel for the group thing. Many termas girls have dupla experience with each other so it's an easy leap. The girls are smart about it. Unlike porn orgies, it's all safe sex and condoms are changed-out every partner rotation from another girl.

I'm sure if you met some girlfriends at a boate like Scandallo or Ceasarao, anything can be arranged. ABG's party could be a great place to meet some open-minded girlfriends. You just have to find a reliable English-speaking female ringleader to round up the girls and get them to your venue or you need to speak some Portuguese. A ringleader is still a good option though.

[QUOTE=NangaNachi;2091558]I often see the Brazilian Orgy parties in Porn videos, where do these parties Happen, currently I am visiting sao Paulo and have plans to travel to Rio de janeiro, florianopolis, thanks in advance.

NN.[/QUOTE]One day last year on a hot December evening I was leaving a meeting with a client in Vila Madalena. Caught the Green Line heading to Vila Prudente, took my seat, pulled out my iFone to update some notes from the meeting. The train stopped at Sumare and 12-15 scantily clad girls wearing the same outfit with a cachaca brand logo over their left tit got on the train. This was a cross section of Brasiliera pussy: poppazundas, mulatas, loiras, morenas, negras, indianos & japones. Whoever the HR person was for this group he / she needs an EEOMVP Award* because he / she certainly had his / her diversity shit in one sock. But I also noticed a lot of people got off, so the only people on the train were a bunch of guys and the scantily dressed chicks. In a rare stroke of genius I finally figured out that the girls were part of a cachaca promotion, they were going around to different bars promoting a particular brand of cachaca (don't know if I can say the name on this board, so I will just leave it out). Each girl had one of those airport luggage carry-on bags with the rollers and each bag was filled with airline sized bottles of this cachaca. Apparently, they had a list of different bars where they would be giving away free samples.

Finally, after all the girls get on and some random people got off, the train takes off. About twenty seconds out of the station the car comes to an abrupt stop. A scratchy voice comes across the PA indicating that there was a computer assisted auto guidance system malfunction, but not to worry, a group of highly trained Brazilian transportation engineers were already at work solving the problem. The car goes dark for, the girls are screaming, the guys are getting hard. Minutes later, we hear a humming and rumbling sound, the emergency generator kicks in and the lights and AC are back online. During the blackout a few of the girls were frightened and had run into the arms of the nearest guy. Fast forward to 30 minutes later, we're still stuck in the goddamn train tunnel. In an effort to offset the boredom, the guys start talking to the girls, the girls start talking to the guys. The cachaca samples are flowing. A group is passing around a blunt. A couple starts doing lines of coke off a guy's briefcase. One guy had these tiny ass fucking speakers, plugged them into the 1/8 jack on his cell fone, and started DJing sertanejo from his iTunes. Folk started dancing, some of the girls formed a group, started singing and dancing to the music, flashing their pussies, tits, and asses!!

One serious party broke out. I started making out with the short loira of Dutch decent from Fortaleza named Marilu, took her back to the corner started DFKing, squeezing her titties, sticking my hand down her panties and fingering her ass. Noticed the other guys were doing similar things. Girls are getting bent over the seats getting their pussies knocked out. A girl is hanging from the overhead hand rail while she's getting fucked my a tall guy in a business suit with his pants down by his ankles. When Mother Nature calls. Yo ass better answer. We're still making out in the corner, I whip my dick out, she says come meu bunda voce gringo safado. My mom only raised one fool, and it wasn't me, she didn't have to tell me twice. I pull her hair back, smacked that phat ass with my free hand, whip my dick out, I spit in her asshole and I'm getting ready to hit it raw.

When my alarm goes off, I get up, I have get showered, dressed, and take my ass to to my 0930 meeting in Vila Madalena.

*Equal Employment Opportunity Most Valuable Player Award.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2095983]The bad news is. It's PORN! Do you seriously think we can help you get an invite to participate in a porn orgy party? [/QUOTE]Who would make porn videos for you. He also was a member of this forum at one time. I think he got chased off because guys thought he was pimping. Maybe he was a little bit, but mostly he was getting paid to document a fantasy. He also crept some of the girls out and others resented that he wanted a cut of the action. I thought he was creepy too, but I accepted that as what it takes to film people while they were having sex.

As for getting a group of girls together, it really is not that hard. Some of the dumbest guys ever to walk this planet used to do it in Rio all the time. Some of them were so dumb that they used to take chances smuggling drugs into Brazil.

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2094550]Second trip to Sampa next month I stayed at the Mercure moema last time going to stay at a different one this time any recommendations? And what bars does anyone have a sports bar they recommend to watch American football on Sundays?[/QUOTE]You can try a white skin girl, my best choice, Ingrid Santos [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

And go with her to Omaylleys pub (the adress is here, on forum).

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[QUOTE=NangaNachi;2091558]I often see the Brazilian Orgy parties in Porn videos, where do these parties Happen, currently I am visiting sao Paulo and have plans to travel to Rio de janeiro, florianopolis, thanks in advance.

NN.[/QUOTE]House of couples (here is "swing"Inner club, Marrakesh, vogue. Are in Moema.

Yesteday she was avaliable at Tangara.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video10536241/sweet_juicy_brazilian_ass_cindy_blueberry_1_64[/URL]

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2097357]Yesteday she was avaliable at Tangara.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video10536241/sweet_juicy_brazilian_ass_cindy_blueberry_1_64[/URL][/QUOTE]Too bad she looks nothing like she does in her videos anymore. I saw her in the lineup at Tangara last year and she's old and fat now!

Just got back from Palms and dinner out by Vila Olimpica. At Palms there were about 6-7 available. Picked Pandora. Very good service with a nice ass and shapely (fake) tits. No anal, but BBB, DFK, and 69 all on the menu. Damage was 270 to the house and 250 to the girl. Pricey for sure. Room was very nice though. Going to hit up Brooklin tomorrow during the day for about half the price. I know the rooms are a tad dumpy and the girls are a crapshoot though.

Separately, walked back into my hotel the Sheraton this evening around midnight and definitely saw 2-3 working girls sitting on the sofas to the right of the entrance (stared at me a little too long and smiled. Giveaway right there). Didn't approach as I was out of juice but they were lookers for sure. Anyone have any experience with these girls?

Hi ABM,

After 3 years I am back. I remember that you once recommended a small and cheap place near Republica. I had some nice sessions with a girl there. But I forgot the exact address. Could you help me out?

Cheer!

[QUOTE=Miaumio;2098791]Hi ABM,

After 3 years I am back. I remember that you once recommended a small and cheap place near Republica. I had some nice sessions with a girl there. But I forgot the exact address. Could you help me out?

Cheer![/QUOTE]The place is not run by Bia anymore and is not worth to be visited.

ABG.

Tangara is the best option for Sundays play, always more than 25 girls in house.

Yesteday I TD a nice morena 22 YO, completa, excellent BBBJ / CIM.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2099665]Tangara is the best option for Sundays play, always more than 25 girls in house.

Yesteday I TD a nice morena 22 YO, completa, excellent BBBJ / CIM.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Her name is Tainá.

ABG.

Club Casarao, heard great reviews. Anyone been there recently?

I had the most bizarre night in my mongering life last night. Actually, it started from Wednesday.

I live in a hotel near Av Paulista. In Wednesday night, I had a dinner with some colleagues. Someone was very drunk then I escorted him back to the hotel and decided to go to Boite. I left the hotel by mid night and came back from Scandallo by 4 pm. After I wake up at noon, I found a note under the door saying, 'please close the door gently'. I think I was also drunk then and slam the door too hard in mid night. This note draws my attention on who my neighbor is. And definitely I would close the door very gently.

The following story become very creepy, haha, on my side. When I was in the room, I would look from peeping hole when some one come around my side of hallway. After two days' spying work, I found out my neighbor is a mulata like in mid of 20's. And most importantly she brought a senior branco male companion like 70's one afternoon which rised a flag. I think she might be a accompanhar. On Saturday afternoon, I was just back from lunch in Fogo de Chao like 4 pm. I heard somebodies were approaching my side then I saw that girl was with another male going to the room. OK I thought I could seal the deal now. She is working. Then I was thinking should I go to buzz the bell a while after or in another day. In the end I thought I should take the chance today. After 6 pm, I opened the door and buzzed the door next to me. I could hear some girl was talking in side. But I don't know what is she talking about since that I could barely speak Portuguese. A while later some one opened the door. I was surprised. A branco girl opened the door who can not speak English. We became very nervous then. It is not what I expected. Fortunately after like 30's unsuccessful talking, the mulata came out and thanks god she spoke some English. They confirmed that what they doing here and took me in. She told me they were offering massage with happy ending. 1 HR 300 are $ and Four-hand Massage for 500 are $. I decided to have a TD then. IMO 300 are might be a little bit gringo price. Haha anyway I don't mind. I just want to the experience that knocking out the door next to my hotel room and having a Fxxk. The branco girl left with disappoint face. Maybe next time I would have her too.

The session is very good for 300 R price. Oil massage first then we have a intense sex. Her pxxxssy is unexpected tight. I ended up with Doggie. Very pretty view from the back side to see the waist and button. Also that was my first time with black woman. After the session we had a small talking. She was working for some massagem last year and then went solo earlier this year. I told her you are a boss now. We laughed. I think I would go with her again. It is too convenient. Haha.

Then I went to the penthouse bar of hotel for dinner. I thought I could call it a night. However other bizarre thing happened.

HeroLidaye,

Hummm, excuse me, but aren't you forgetting something?

Is there contact info, a website perhaps?

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2099793]Club Casarao, heard great reviews. Anyone been there recently?[/QUOTE]I went there a couple of nights last week and might go tonight or tomorrow. About 40 girls when I arrived at 11 pm and probably at least 80 at 1 am. Gets very crowded as there are a lot of guys but a few very hot girls make the visit worthwhile. I went with Bruna, 19 yo slim brunette girl with big naturals. 200 reais for 40 minutes and 40 reais for the room. Service from the girl was average but she is cute. 20 reais entrada. Friday and Saturday is supposed to be the most popular nights so midweek maybe better for someone who would prefer some space to move around.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2100242]HeroLidaye,

Hummm, excuse me, but aren't you forgetting something?

Is there contact info, a website perhaps?[/QUOTE]Haha. I think answer is no. I did not ask her Contact info. I think I will ask later when I saw her on lobby or elevator again. And definitely I has no website since I found this girl by peeking from my hotel room door if you have read the thread carefully you would know that. LOL.

I went to Casarao last night, quite empty around 11 pm but filled up a little bit eventually. At least 70 girls available. Not that impressing quality. About three options that was to my taste.

I did a really bad choice and went with the best looking face, which belonged to Larissa. 24 yo, long blonde hair, kind of bimbo looks, bubble butt and small natural tits. In the interview she promised real kissing, BBBJ, DATY. After agreeing to that she asked with a smile if those were the only requirements. So I added that sometimes it's nice with a submissive girl and she agreed to light domination. Everything turned sour as we arrived on the bed. She is the kind that wants to control every little detail, as far from submissive as anyone could ever be. She tried to consume time of course. Demanded that the first position would be her on top and that she would guide me in. This enabled her to be super clumsy putting on the camisinha as to make me soft. Then repeating the clumsiness and pretending to fail when guiding me in to make me soft over and over again. No kissing allowed and the BBBJ was the worst ever. Avoid at all cost! Worst attitude by far that I have come across in Brazil and have only encountered anything similar one or two times in Europe.

If you are looking for a girl with a tight pussy who gives a good blowjob, a ball licking that descends into ass licking, and takes a hard anal pounding while having her hair pulled and being choked before taking a load in her mouth and letting it drip down her chin for a second before she slurps it back into her mouth along with your cock to suck out the remnants, then get yourself to Tangara and visit Mary; 20 year old morena clara with a pretty face and a thickish ass. $R50 extra for anal.

Considering a flight with about a 4-HR stopover and a 3-HR window of opportunity (1 pm - 4 pm, weekday) at GRU.

So after RTFF, I think Clinica Maituna (Rua conselheiro Saraiva - 628 Santana, Tel: -4561-6047, WhatsApp. 99009-7467), about 30 min. Taxi / Uber drive from the GRU airport is still an available option but not much else. And Priv Taj Mahal. Rua Coronel Raul Furquim, 101 - Guarulhos (reported back in 2008)???

Any updates on bars / clubs near GRU, worthy of a quick look-see where I can get a drink and P4P?

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1955143]HS, as I wrote several times there is nothing good around the GRU airport...[/QUOTE]ABG, so does this mean that there are venues closer to the GRU airport, but basically not worth the effort, due to the lack of quality, bad neighborhood, poor conditions of the bar...etc. Or there just isn't anything at ALL?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2102190]Considering a flight with about a 4-HR stopover and a 3-HR window of opportunity (1 pm - 4 pm, weekday) at GRU.

So after RTFF, I think Clinica Maituna (Rua conselheiro Saraiva - 628 Santana, Tel: -4561-6047, WhatsApp. 99009-7467), about 30 min. Taxi / Uber drive from the GRU airport is still an available option but not much else. And Priv Taj Mahal. Rua Coronel Raul Furquim, 101 - Guarulhos (reported back in 2008)???

Any updates on bars / clubs near GRU, worthy of a quick look-see where I can get a drink and P4P?

ABG, so does this mean that there are venues closer to the GRU airport, but basically not worth the effort, due to the lack of quality, bad neighborhood, poor conditions of the bar...etc. Or there just isn't anything at ALL?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Clinica Maituna is the only place that has a reasonable cast and is near to GRU. I never went to Taj Mahal.

ABG.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2102092]If you are looking for a girl with a tight pussy who gives a good blowjob, a ball licking that descends into ass licking, and takes a hard anal pounding while having her hair pulled and being choked before taking a load in her mouth and letting it drip down her chin for a second before she slurps it back into her mouth along with your cock to suck out the remnants, then get yourself to Tangara and visit Mary; 20 year old morena clara with a pretty face and a thickish ass. $R50 extra for anal.[/QUOTE]Hey Larry, happy that you tried Mary. She really has a beautiful face in my opinion, gives you the horniest deep looks during oral. One of the best deepthroat efforts I have had for sure. She is a 10 for attitude and service, seems horny. As you mention her body is not really slim but not that bad either. I kind of remember her age being 25 but might got that mixed up. Strong recommendation.

I have also recently tried Duda at Tangara, 20 yo, morena jambo maybe, I am currently trying to learn these different terms for looks of girls in Brazil. Very cute girl, slim but fairly long legs and a fit ass. Slightly less passionate than the Mary mentioned above but still very good service and definitely into the session, extremely tight. Good oral.

There also is a Dudinha at Tangara, a petite, tall morena. Cute but maybe not as good looking as Duda or Mary. Very horny and a fun girl, relaxed atmosphere. Good DFK and excellent attitude. Also sessioned a morena called Joyce, very good looking. This was my only bad session in Tangara. She was new and felt shy and not quite comfortable in the situation.

Brooklin, not quite as impressed with the lineup here. At least 20 girls but all a little samey, many big bundas and big naturals. Only one or two slim options and they didn't have the face for my taste. Sessioned with Adriana, 26 yo brunette, voluptuous, big glossy lips. Not bad at all, just nothing extraordinary. Tangara and Brooklin have in common that the presentation is a little quick. Some of the girls don't even bother to say their name for some reason. A little bit annoying to have to ask for it.

Maituna, smaller lineup but two fairly cute ones. Picked loira falsa Louisa and my wingman went with the other good option. Louisa is 25 yo, quite cute, slim. Decent BBBJ, just about average service but a sweet girl. 120 reais for 30 minutes I think and this included a plate of churrasco buffet as they had a little festa this night. Well maintained, clean facilities. Easily accessible by Santana metro station.

While in Sao Paulo I had to make myself acquainted with the high end night options. I went to Bomboa with experienced Sampa monger Rovnak who introduced me to the place. I liked the compact layout of this club. It is possible to find a good spot by the bar and get a good overview of the girls. There is a live band playing traditional Brazilian music and the atmosphere is fairly relaxed. Almost upon arriving I met a standout girl. If I remember correct her name was Bruna, 23 yo slim and fairly tall brunette from Minas. She visits the club a few nights per month. Mentioned she had done some model work and certainly has the looks for it. She wanted 1800 for all night or 800 for the hour that was swiftly negotiated to 600. Really good session, straight onto open my pants to give a good BBBJ as soon as we entered the room. I quite fancied that directness as it allowed for the encounter to feel more real. She declared she is a rock girl and put on some Guns 'and Roses for us to enjoy. She was horny and gave great DFK (even in the bar). I was certainly a happy guest this time, passionate love making with a girl of about model quality looks.

After Bomboa Rovnak guided me the short distance to Casarao by Uber. Didn't really have the energy for another session but was fun to look around, swap experiences with my wingman and chat with some girls.

Tuesday this week I went to Scandallo. A little bigger than Bomboa of course and not as easy to get an overview. Not as good lighting, more of an uptight atmosphere. Pretty tedious conversation from a lot of the girls. I saw one really good looking brunette and a few other girls with really sexy bodies. But not many I would have wanted to pay 6-700 + some 200 reais for the room. I found myself constantly being approached by the least attractive girls in there (still hot ones). This made it a little difficult at times to look around for someone of my taste. Despite keeping the conversation short there would keep coming new ones with the same old; tudo bem? Primeira vez na casa?

I would rate the lineup a little better and of course bigger at Scandallo. Still it only takes one standout and that is what I found at Bomboa. Apart from the girls I prefered Bomboa, better atmosphere. I love though how no matter if a 50 reais casa or a 800 reais club you will still almost always find 2-3 girls you want to do here in Brasil. I do think a place like Scandallo has an allure which is that possibilty of finding a girl with a model level of face. Still, I would easily pick some of the best looking young natural girls in the cheap prives / clinicas over most of the girls at Scandallo.

Checked out a couple of the Trash houses in Centro to give a real contrast to Scandallo. Rua dos Andradas 69 is not really recommended. Very low quality. I think it was 8 floors, 30 reais is standard for 15 minutes. Went early around lunch time, probably more girls in the afternoon.

However, me and wingman Rovnak also braved a visit to Rua Barao de Limeira 134 and this place is a lot better. It is recommended to get in line for the elevator that goes to the 8th floor. The elevator only holds three people so one might have to wait in line for a while. There also is a 9th floor to be reached by stairs. 30 reais for 15 minutes. Normally between 4 and 8-9 girls on every floor available at any time. On floor number 4 I sessioned with Marina, 26 yo with dreads, super cute face and a really nice bubble butt. Nice girl, good attitude in the cabin. Downside is that this place is dirty, crowded, tiny cabins and probably only advisable to visit for those speaking at least some Portuguese. Also went with Melissa on one of the upper floors. Good looking morena with sexy body but not the same good chemistry or service as with Marina. Saw several other girls that also were cute.

Made a visit to a place called Imperio Drinks on Rua Cordeal Arcoverde 2246 in Pinheiros. Small dark bar, 30 reais for 30 minutes. 6-7 girls present but nothing tempting even at this low price level. Spotted two other bars on either side of Imperio drinks advertising preco unico 35 reais. Went into the one before 2246 when you arrive from the Faria Lima metro or Pinheiros Mercado municipal. This place was much nicer, better lighting, white clean couches. I was the only guest and 4 girls as I entered soon to be accompanied by a further three. A couple decent looking ones given it is 35 reais for 30 minutes. Decided to do a trio with Sara (brunette, glasses, cute smile) and Mia (morena jambo with a pretty ok ass). Very down to earth garotas and one of the most spontaneous and fun sessions of my trip. It was the first time ever anyone had wanted a trio they claimed and they were all excited, giving lot of compliments, joking around. BBBJ and DATY was good and they just smiled and laughed through the whole thing.

The lack of variety in the lineup gave me the idea of the threesome. As all girls were about equally attractive I could pick my favourite Sara and then let her decide which of the amigas she wanted to bring. That way there would be no disappointment for me in terms of looks and threesomes are always better with two girls that are comfortable with one another.

As suggested I went to Tangara last week. Arrived early at 6 pm. 15 girls available. I choosed Sonia and opted for 2 h and double BBBJ incl. CIM. Overall damage was 380 RS.

All was easy going, very nice experience. Will go again.

Visited Enjoy during the last few weeks.

Twice enjoyed Melinda, a white (actually not), redhead with slim model body and really small breasts. Had excellent chemistry with her.

Yesterday went with Ingrid. This was the time when you see face and body (slim) and forget that this combination usually means a. Previously she attend Cafe Photo.

Today was line up of 18 girls in the afternoon. Could not decide to whom to be with, so left. Probably the mood was not right.

Yesterday visited first time Chanes 57, line up 3 girls in early night. Nothing for me.

Stopped by yesterday to visit Lorena, formerly of Tangara. Spent an hour with her. When the phone rang to notify us of the time I took a shower and got dressed. 15 minutes later the woman at the front desk tried to charge me 375 for 1.5 hours. I balked and explained the getting ready, so she called someone. When she got off the phone she insisted it was 1.5 hours but they would only charge me 200 for the hour. Felt like she was trying to gringo me. If you don't speak any Portuguese, you might want to stay away. I won't go back.

Yesterday I had a wonderful season with Bombom, a escola de samba type mulata, 26 yo, DFK, one of the best BBBJ with CIM.

Yesterday they were loads of new girls there.

[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;2102213] Tangara and Brooklin have in common that the presentation is a little quick. Some of the girls don't even bother to say their name for some reason. A little bit annoying to have to ask for it.[/QUOTE]Whenever, in a lineup, a girl does not say her name I take that as a warning signal that she would rather not be with me and avoid despite how cute she may be.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2103972]Whenever, in a lineup, a girl does not say her name I take that as a warning signal that she would rather not be with me and avoid despite how cute she may be.[/QUOTE]Exactly, one of my worst experiences was with a girl who was looking off into space. Another girl that my buddy selected was smiling at both of us. Let's say my girl was an 8. 5 and his was a 7. 5. My girl laid there like a dead fish. His girl was apparently an animal in bed.

The trick is not to screen out the shy girls who can open up during sex. Perhaps it's not worth the gamble.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2104117]Exactly, one of my worst experiences was with a girl who was looking off into space. Another girl that my buddy selected was smiling at both of us. Let's say my girl was an 8. 5 and his was a 7. 5. My girl laid there like a dead fish. His girl was apparently an animal in bed.

The trick is not to screen out the shy girls who can open up during sex. Perhaps it's not worth the gamble.[/QUOTE]Its hard to really generalize on this issue. The presentation is a snap judgment that can often misfire, no biggie, it comes with the territory. I find the girls failure to pronounce their names annoying as hell, but I usually attribute it to fatigue or indifference about doing presentations. Not necessarily representative of how they will act in the room. Particularly in the high volume places like TG or Brooklin, these girls are doing presentations all day long, to upwards of 5 to 10 men each time. They can't turn on the high beams for everyone. I made the mistake of not selecting a TG girl for several months be / see she was not very warm to me in the presentation even though I found her to be the most attractive. I finally decided to try her in spite of that. Turned out, she was off the hook good in the room and I see her regularly, for "better than GFE" even though she no longer works at TG.

It can even work against you to see too much into the presentation, a lot least attractive girls will try to charm guys in the presentation, give you a sloppy kiss, a big hug. Because they are desperate for business. The house "stars" can afford to be indifferent and are. But the stars are stars for what they do in the room, not the presentation.

My tips:

- If I have any interest in the girl at all, I ask her something banal like "where are you from" just to get her to pause a minute with me, and see how she reacts.

- If I am really interested I ask to talk to her privately.

- If I am uncertain, I wait for another round of presentations to observe my candidates more closely. This is one of the advantages of SP over Rio, in that the clinicas in SP have open presentation areas and you can sit and watch the presentations over and over again.

- I use the notes application to jot down name and a ++ to help me remember who I liked.

Its up to the reception to manage the presentation well. It should be efficient but not too fast. The best presentations is at Enjoy, girls come down the stairs, wait until each one completes the presentation before the next one begins, so the spacing is good, not to fast. And all the girls available come out. Mirunas is good too but lacks the stairs. Which gives a nice view of legs and ass. TG is sometimes too fast, too many girls coming at you from different directions, but at least you don't wait long. Could be better, but with the volume they have they do a decent job. Brooklin is the worst. I really hate the receptionists there. They just keep announcing "meninas, de novo presentacao de todas, um novo cliente chegou". And then they pay no attention to the presentation, which is sometimes annoyingly slow to unfold and you never quite know if its over, and the damned reception is unhelpful and bad humored for the most part. But at least its a presentation. The worst of all are the places that have only a book / tablet. Which ironically are the pricier places, a book of highly photoshopped pro photos. One of the reasons, beside the price, that I seldom visit those places, though I do recommend them to visitors who are looking for eye candy.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2104258]The worst of all are the places that have only a book / tablet. Which ironically are the pricier places, a book of highly photoshopped pro photos. One of the reasons, beside the price, that I seldom visit those places, though I do recommend them to visitors who are looking for eye candy.[/QUOTE]I went to one such place in June last year called France Bel. Sessioned a caucasian called Christiane Becker who looked slightly less attractive in person. She had a little bit of a starfish attitude, though, (for me a rarity in Brazil) (380 Rs/hr). Never returned.

I never understand why punters invite GPS over and then don't have reias to pay them with. I think that is incredibly rude behavior. This is 2017, with ATMs everywhere, and hotel desks can provide change, there is no excuse for such behavior. I get messaged last night from a regular of mine asking me if I know about Australian Dolllar. Of course, I know what is happening, she got called by some visitor to a hotel and he is trying to pay her in Aussie dollars. Come on man, its far easier for you to get reais at an ATM than for her to accept your foreign currency and then go to a cambio and change it. I hate when punters take advantage of good GPS like that.

Talk about spoiling the market. I had a hot semi-pro lined up on Tinder. Orthodontist student, sent me photos in her lab gear and all, super good looking. Wanted 350 for one hour, I chatted her up, got her to agree to 300 for 2 hours. All was looking good. Then she messages me and says that some guy on Tinder offered her 800 for 1 hour, so she was going to see him. F'n dope. Probably a gringo here for Formula 1.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2104696]Talk about spoiling the market. I had a hot semi-pro lined up on Tinder. Orthodontist student, sent me photos in her lab gear and all, super good looking. Wanted 350 for one hour, I chatted her up, got her to agree to 300 for 2 hours. All was looking good. Then she messages me and says that some guy on Tinder offered her 800 for 1 hour, so she was going to see him. F'n dope. Probably a gringo here for Formula 1.[/QUOTE]Should've closed on that 300 for an hour. Especially if it included anal LOL!

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2104258]Its hard to really generalize on this issue. The presentation is a snap judgment that can often misfire, no biggie, it comes with the territory. I find the girls failure to pronounce their names annoying as hell, but I usually attribute it to fatigue or indifference about doing presentations. Not necessarily representative of how they will act in the room. Particularly in the high volume places like TG or Brooklin, these girls are doing presentations all day long, to upwards of 5 to 10 men each time. They can't turn on the high beams for everyone. I made the mistake of not selecting a TG girl for several months be / see she was not very warm to me in the presentation even though I found her to be the most attractive. I finally decided to try her in spite of that. Turned out, she was off the hook good in the room and I see her regularly, for "better than GFE" even though she no longer works at TG.

It can even work against you to see too much into the presentation, a lot least attractive girls will try to charm guys in the presentation, give you a sloppy kiss, a big hug. Because they are desperate for business. The house "stars" can afford to be indifferent and are. But the stars are stars for what they do in the room, not the presentation.

My tips:

- If I have any interest in the girl at all, I ask her something banal like "where are you from" just to get her to pause a minute with me, and see how she reacts.

- If I am really interested I ask to talk to her privately.

- If I am uncertain, I wait for another round of presentations to observe my candidates more closely. This is one of the advantages of SP over Rio, in that the clinicas in SP have open presentation areas and you can sit and watch the presentations over and over again.

- I use the notes application to jot down name and a ++ to help me remember who I liked.

Its up to the reception to manage the presentation well. It should be efficient but not too fast. The best presentations is at Enjoy, girls come down the stairs, wait until each one completes the presentation before the next one begins, so the spacing is good, not to fast. And all the girls available come out. Mirunas is good too but lacks the stairs. Which gives a nice view of legs and ass. TG is sometimes too fast, too many girls coming at you from different directions, but at least you don't wait long. Could be better, but with the volume they have they do a decent job. Brooklin is the worst. I really hate the receptionists there. They just keep announcing "meninas, de novo presentacao de todas, um novo cliente chegou". And then they pay no attention to the presentation, which is sometimes annoyingly slow to unfold and you never quite know if its over, and the damned reception is unhelpful and bad humored for the most part. But at least its a presentation. The worst of all are the places that have only a book / tablet. Which ironically are the pricier places, a book of highly photoshopped pro photos. One of the reasons, beside the price, that I seldom visit those places, though I do recommend them to visitors who are looking for eye candy.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with your opinion Rovnak, clinicas with live lineups are the only ones I go.

Normally I wait until other customers get into the house so girls stay more time in the room and I can observe their figure. If I can't understand her names I make a joke like " Quem voc moa bonita " , so 99% of the girls smile and say their names again. Than I wait for the next presentation to see the girls again, than choose the gir for a quick interwew about her performaces, like DFK, ANAL, BBBJ, CIM etc. I 100% agree with Rovnak the the best looking girls normally offer less in bed.

In the interview don't believe in good service if the girls only say " eu sou completa " , my next question will be " o que voc ando gosta de fazer " to be specific whar are her do's and don'ts.

If you don't speak any portuguese you better go with a Brazilian wingman that knows the CLnicas. At Tangara and at Chanes you can seat down and talk to the girls before going to bed with her.

Today Tangara and Miruna are going to be open.

IMO Tangara has a better lineup on Sundays with more young and good looking liberal girls. Price is 150 reais per hour, DFK, DATY, Rimming, BBBJ and CIM are not included and should be negociated before going to season with the lady.

ABG.

Priscilla and Cindy speak english.They worl at Tangara

[QUOTE=TheCane;2104902]Should've closed on that 300 for an hour. Especially if it included anal LOL![/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean. It would not have mattered. She still would have gone to the guy who offered 800 for one hour. She was fully prepared to see me for 2 hours at 300 until that guy jumped the offer.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2104913]I agree 100% with your opinion Rovnak, clinicas with live lineups are the only ones I go.

Normally I wait until other customers get into the house so girls stay more time in the room and I can observe their figure. If I can't understand her names I make a joke like " Quem voc moa bonita " , so 99% of the girls smile and say their names again. Than I wait for the next presentation to see the girls again, than choose the gir for a quick interwew about her performaces, like DFK, ANAL, BBBJ, CIM etc. I 100% agree with Rovnak the the best looking girls normally offer less in bed.

In the interview don't believe in good service if the girls only say " eu sou completa " , my next question will be " o que voc ando gosta de fazer " to be specific whar are her do's and don'ts.

If you don't speak any portuguese you better go with a Brazilian wingman that knows the CLnicas. At Tangara and at Chanes you can seat down and talk to the girls before going to bed with her.

Today Tangara and Miruna are going to be open.

IMO Tangara has a better lineup on Sundays with more young and good looking liberal girls. Price is 150 reais per hour, DFK, DATY, Rimming, BBBJ and CIM are not included and should be negociated before going to season with the lady.

ABG.

Priscilla and Cindy speak english.They worl at Tangara[/QUOTE]They work at Tangara.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2103536]Yesterday I had a wonderful season with Bombom, a escola de samba type mulata, 26 yo, DFK, one of the best BBBJ with CIM.

Yesterday they were loads of new girls there.[/QUOTE]Yes, she is great if she comes in Red dress, looks like a diva. Beautiful. The front desk owner talks very sensual.

I forgot to report on Sensacao during my recent trip. Went there late afternoon and at first only two very mediocre girls available. As I was about to leave this pretty girl came back from a session so I went with her. 20 yo Stephania, brunette with big beautiful naturals, fairly pretty face and decent slim body overall, lots of tattoos. 70 reais for half hour. I thought the room was really discusting, bed linens were just as bad as the 30 reais trash houses. Only redeeming asset was that the room had a decent shower, horribly old and funky towel though. The service from Stephania was very average, BBBJ but tired and uninspired. Will not return to Sensacao.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2103972]Whenever, in a lineup, a girl does not say her name I take that as a warning signal that she would rather not be with me and avoid despite how cute she may be.[/QUOTE]I try to adhere to this rule for sure. But what to do when the shy girl is a standout in the lineup, levels ahead of everyone else? I normally go for the best face. Great attitude and service is the norm in Brazil so I guess I can accept the occasional disappointment in that department if it is the price to pay for always picking the best lookers.

Any tips for distinguishing semi-pro or drawing semi pro's attention on Tinder? Appreciated.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2105004]Not sure what you mean. It would not have mattered. She still would have gone to the guy who offered 800 for one hour. She was fully prepared to see me for 2 hours at 300 until that guy jumped the offer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HeroLidaye;2107101]Any tips for distinguishing semi-pro or drawing semi pro's attention on Tinder? Appreciated.[/QUOTE]Yes there are some ways to identify the semi-pros.

- provocative pictures are the first give tip.

- but if the pics are provocative, but there is an instagram account associated with the tinder, I think this is generally an instagram diva not a semi-pro.

- then read the description. They may clearly indicate they are GP or SB (sugar baby) or they may write nothing. Any of those are possible semi-pros. If they write a lot of blah blah and "aperta X se vc busca pra sexo casual" etc, clearly they are not.

- watch out for trannies, most of them mention this in description but not all.

To draw attention to yourself.

- make sure your age is over 40. The GPS and the semi-pros all prefer men over 40.

- not sure what is best in terms of description. I have not done enough experimentation with different text to know. I usually say that I am looking for new friends. I try to keep it vague enough to appeal to both pro and non-pro audience. I definitely do not write that I am looking for a serious relationship, B / C I think that is a big waste of time.

[QUOTE=HeroLidaye;2107101]Any tips for distinguishing semi-pro or drawing semi pro's attention on Tinder? Appreciated.[/QUOTE]Swipe right on any girl you would do. Some pro's don't have face pics. They will swipe right on you. Just get on tinder.

[QUOTE=HeroLidaye;2107101]Any tips for distinguishing semi-pro or drawing semi pro's attention on Tinder? Appreciated.[/QUOTE]Most GdPs / massage therapists will be scantily clad in their photos and most will state their phone # & WhatsApp.

[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;2106900]I forgot to report on Sensacao during my recent trip. Went there late afternoon and at first only two very mediocre girls available. As I was about to leave this pretty girl came back from a session so I went with her. 20 yo Stephania, brunette with big beautiful naturals, fairly pretty face and decent slim body overall, lots of tattoos. 70 reais for half hour. I thought the room was really discusting, bed linens were just as bad as the 30 reais trash houses. Only redeeming asset was that the room had a decent shower, horribly old and funky towel though. The service from Stephania was very average, BBBJ but tired and uninspired. Will not return to Sensacao.[/QUOTE]I was a big fan of this place, since Bia left the place if became horrible. Bia is managing a new house in Ipiranda, I'll post it as soon as I get the confirmation.

ABG.

ABG,

Please look at your messages. Hoping to meet up with you again next Saturday.

[QUOTE=HeroLidaye;2107101]Any tips for distinguishing semi-pro or drawing semi pro's attention on Tinder? Appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you see a profile like this, she's probably a GDP.

Many homes like Bomboa are very good, but I prefer to find the girls on the site, like " [URL]https://www.massagistassp.com.br/[/URL]", there are many girls where we can already choose without having to go anywhere, for this is the best option, not to mention that the value always ends up being much smaller than visiting a massage home.

[QUOTE=DouglasBonilha;2111058]Many homes like Bomboa are very good, but I prefer to find the girls on the site, like " [URL]https://www.massagistassp.com.br/[/URL]", there are many girls where we can already choose without having to go anywhere, for this is the best option, not to mention that the value always ends up being much smaller than visiting a massage home.[/QUOTE]Clinicas are normally cheaper than the girls fron web pages and you can choose from a lineup, what's much more secure because you get whar you see, alive. Most girls pictures are extremely photoshopped.

I am in town and not sure if I was spilled with FKKs but I am not having the best luck. If anyone is in town and know where I can find a lineup with plenty of 8-10's let me know. I went to a few of the massage places and found some definite hotties but they are very rare.

[QUOTE=DukesFord;2111128]I am in town and not sure if I was spilled with FKKs but I am not having the best luck. If anyone is in town and know where I can find a lineup with plenty of 8-10's let me know. I went to a few of the massage places and found some definite hotties but they are very rare.[/QUOTE]It depends a lot of what are your female standarts. Brazil is the land of curvy girls so if you want to see more european style girls go to Miruna or Enjoy SPA.

[QUOTE=DukesFord;2111128]I am in town and not sure if I was spilled with FKKs but I am not having the best luck. If anyone is in town and know where I can find a lineup with plenty of 8-10's let me know. I went to a few of the massage places and found some definite hotties but they are very rare.[/QUOTE]Why don't you recap what you think you learned from reading the forum in terms of setting your expectations. It would be easier ti reply to that. I. E where did you go, what were you expecting. What is still on your list.

[QUOTE=DouglasBonilha;2111058]Many homes like Bomboa are very good, but I prefer to find the girls on the site, like " [URL]https://www.massagistassp.com.br/[/URL]", there are many girls where we can already choose without having to go anywhere, for this is the best option, not to mention that the value always ends up being much smaller than visiting a massage home.[/QUOTE]Have you actually had success picking girls off a website like massagistassp without checking any on-line reviews? Some of these girls look to good to be true. I think if they looked as good as they appear on this website they would attract local attention and have an on-line review footprint.

Just to be upfront, I am skeptical that one can just pick girls anywhere based on internet photos. This summer had a discussion with a guy right here who was certain he could just point and click hot girls off PhotoAcompanhantes. He said he was having great success. Then his SP reports stopped. So we don't know if his luck ran out and not even sure if many guys would report being burned.

Anyone know what clinicia are open today. I assume they would open around noon?

[QUOTE=JManBigD;2112517]Anyone know what clinicia are open today. I assume they would open around noon?[/QUOTE]Tangará , Miruna and Brooklin are open today.

Saturday, I and my friend went to Tangara, came in early, he hit Joyce, a very small morena slim model type body, nice face, and I went with a lovely mulata called Dandara. Both do BBBJ.

The place had a great lineup, some 15 girls showed up!

Probably Tangara is one of the few clinicas who is going to be open on Dec. 24th.

ABG.

After visiting Tangara we decided to go to Miruna, nice lineup, among them Luana and Dani are two good recomendations. 230,00 reais per hour if paid in cash.

ABG.

SP report.

I stayed a day at the Mercure Paulista, not a bad hotel but probably my least favorite Mercure I stayed in it was more of a hotel room than apt and small at that decent location tho, other 2 nights I stayed at the jardin location, I probably would stay here before Paulista location but of the 3 I stayed in Moema has been my favorite.

Sunday I went to hooters they had eagles vs Chicago on, along with soccer on every other tv decent food I haven't found a hooters better than Medellin IMO yet. The evening I went to blue pub they had the Sunday night game Green Bay vs Pittsburgh decent food. Thanks for the intel on these sports bars.

Monday I hit only Brooklyn and kilt, it's thousands of clinicas but my wingman wanted to stick with what he knew. Brooklyn is my favorite clinica but I didn't do anything there this trip I did like 3 different girls in kilt. I think 170 $are for 30 minutes. These are tho very clean clinicas.

That I hit bamboa222 nice scene I didn't take anything out of there one the girls told me 400 usd wtf? Left there hit casarao reminded me of in panama where the girls basically walk around in bikinis but these rooms here are clean LOL. Good rates some gems to be found.

Tuesday night hit coffe photo. Nice place makes you feel like you need to dress up in a suit. But you don't, has good food nice women as well again didn't take anything out of here, I went to KILT night club must of been one they mild nights maybe only 10 girls and a sex show LOL, left there back to Casarao only complaint a lot of the girls wearing same lingerie from night before makes you question their hygiene. It still had a good crowd I can imagine how this place looks on weekends.

To sum everything up I love SP the clincas during the day extremely clean, at night you can go to a club or you can go to a lounge where you can eat and chill and pick a girl if you want and the high end spots know a little English with that being said be prepared to spend. I plan to visit scandallos and love story my next visit. I was in SP Sunday-Wednesday so some places I went could of been bad on the particular nights.

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2113749]SP report.

...left there back to Casarao only complaint a lot of the girls wearing same lingerie from night before makes you question their hygiene.[/QUOTE]Soil that is dirty grows the countless things. Water that is clear has no fish.

Chinese Proverb.

Went with Cindy.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video17837153/cindy_blueberry[/URL]

DFK, GFE, good CWG.

Fantastic BBBJ / CIM.

Rhaissa and Baby very good interaction DFK, CWG, BBBJ & CIM.

Yesterday there were 38 girls in house around 6 PM.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2114728]Rhaissa and Baby very good interaction DFK, CWG, BBBJ & CIM.

Yesterday there were 38 girls in house around 6 PM.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Today I f *cked Babi, 21 yo Red hair caucasian model type garota.

Very goo DFK, right into a BBBJ, very good CWG, she on top is 10!

More BBBJ until CIM.

ABG.

Hoping to hit Tangara on Wednesday and Scandallo on Wednesday night. Am thinking that between the two I can line up a girl outside of the clubs to visit me at my hotel. I haven't been to either place but in previous visits I've gone to Brooklin Clinica and Bamboa boite. I have loved Brooklin in the past, but my last time there (about 6 months ago) the lineups were terrible. I wasn't going to go with anyone and then Bianca, one of my previous favorites, came out so I went with her.

Sounds like Tangara has some attractive lineups, so I am going to check it out. Will let you know how it goes.

When I went to Bamboa last time, I had a bad experience. Ran into an attractive, flirty young girl who convinced me to take her to a love hotel. The place was super cool, with a private pool and an open air roof. But she was more interested in ordering food and drinks and I ended up leaving after about an hour and a half. I also was pretty pissed off about having to tip guys on my way out, including one of the door men.

My advice to you if the door guys hit you up for a tip on your way out, tell them to f*ck off. Be prepared for the request though. I wasn't. I'm going to be more patient at Scandallo. And I'm going to use the on-site rooms. If the girl is good in the club, I'll try and get her number and set something up later on in the week. I'm not going to pay any exit fee, nor am I going to tip any bouncers or doormen.

Will let you know how it goes.

Nice japanese origin lady, completa, DFK, BBBJ & CIM!

Speaks perfect english, very GFE.

ABG.

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2115389]Hoping to hit Tangara on Wednesday and Scandallo on Wednesday night. Am thinking that between the two I can line up a girl outside of the clubs to visit me at my hotel. I haven't been to either place but in previous visits I've gone to Brooklin Clinica and Bamboa boite....

Sounds like Tangara has some attractive lineups, so I am going to check it out.

......
My advice to you if the door guys hit you up for a tip on your way out, tell them to f*ck off. Be prepared for the request though. I wasn't. I'm going to be more patient at Scandallo. And I'm going to use the on-site rooms. If the girl is good in the club, I'll try and get her number and set something up later on in the week. I'm not going to pay any exit fee, nor am I going to tip any bouncers or doormen.

Will let you know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Tangara is a good place to hang out for a few hours and try a girl or two or three. 100 R for 1/2 hour test drive. A comfortable salon with free WiFi, water, soda and coffee. The lineup can be hit or miss for beauty, but if you go for attitude you can find a winner. If you want to interview a girl, ask to talk to her outside. You can wait until after the presentation and go to where the girls hang out and ask her to speak with you. Second shift starts arriving around 4-6 p. Get there at 2 or 3, take a girl, relax for a while and take another. If you have a good chemistry in her room, ask for her whatsapp. You could spend the day there and take 5 girls for 500 R, and still spend less than for one girl in Scandaloo.

I suggest you check out Casarao. 30 R entrance is consumable. Every time I've been, there's always been a couple hundred girls there. Prices are 200-400 (negotiation) for an hour. Many girls quote 40 minutes, so confirm your hour. If you speak Portuguese you can get numbers in the club.

IMO, Scandaloo is overpriced these days. Yes, the girls are pretty, but 600-1000 R for an hour is ridiculous. Cafe foto prices are similar, but you get MILFs. Your better off trying 2-3 girls at Casarao or 6-10 girls at Tangara.

If you're feeling lazy, you can find freelancers on vivalocal website. Don't forget to select you city.

I have read the forum, which is really helpful, but still have a couple of questions to those of you with some local knowledge.

First, I am not new to Brazil. I lived there for quite a while, though that was more than a few years ago and I am trying to get me bearings as I will be visiting soon for business and pleasure for 3 or 4 weeks.

First, in the "olden" days, if you were staying at a high end business hotel with a decent bar, women would find you! It was very quiet and under the table, but they were absolutely stunning. And somewhat pricey. Does that still exist today or has that shipped sailed with the internet?

Second, what are the high end business hotels downtown? I am dating myself, I am sure, but it used to be the Maksoud and the downtown Hilton.

Third, is it possible to buy a decent bottle of scotch there without paying an arm and a leg or am stuck with duty free and then local garbage?

Thanks in advance and I hope to eventually give more than I receive!

[QUOTE=JibReach;2118048]I have read the forum, which is really helpful, but still have a couple of questions to those of you with some local knowledge.

First, I am not new to Brazil. I lived there for quite a while, though that was more than a few years ago and I am trying to get me bearings as I will be visiting soon for business and pleasure for 3 or 4 weeks.

First, in the "olden" days, if you were staying at a high end business hotel with a decent bar, women would find you! It was very quiet and under the table, but they were absolutely stunning. And somewhat pricey. Does that still exist today or has that shipped sailed with the internet?

Second, what are the high end business hotels downtown? I am dating myself, I am sure, but it used to be the Maksoud and the downtown Hilton.

Third, is it possible to buy a decent bottle of scotch there without paying an arm and a leg or am stuck with duty free and then local garbage?

Thanks in advance and I hope to eventually give more than I receive![/QUOTE]The internet largely overcame the hotel bar hookers but you still can find some old timers at the lobby bar of the Renaissence. The hotel Unique also gets visited by some nice hookers. The boose better you buy at the duty free, otherwise be preperd to pay an arm and a leg.

The Maksoud is very bad and the Hilton downtown closed.

If you have any further questions please PM me.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2118115]The internet largely overcame the hotel bar hookers but you still can find some old timers at the lobby bar of the Renaissence. The hotel Unique also gets visited by some nice hookers. The boose better you buy at the duty free, otherwise be preperd to pay an arm and a leg.

The Maksoud is very bad and the Hilton downtown closed.

If you have any further questions please PM me.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, ABG.

I have some friends who stayed at Fasano recently. They weren't very impressed. For the price, they are used to a bit more. Unique is interesting, but the location isn't really what I wanted. I'll look into the Renaissance.

Jib Reach.

[QUOTE=JibReach;2118348]Thanks for the information, ABG.

I have some friends who stayed at Fasano recently. They weren't very impressed. For the price, they are used to a bit more. Unique is interesting, but the location isn't really what I wanted. I'll look into the Renaissance.

Jib Reach.[/QUOTE]Another alternative is the Hotel Tivoli at Alameda Santos.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2118005]Tangara is a good place to hang out for a few hours and try a girl or two or three. 100 R for 1/2 hour test drive. A comfortable salon with free WiFi, water, soda and coffee. The lineup can be hit or miss for beauty, but if you go for attitude you can find a winner. If you want to interview a girl, ask to talk to her outside. You can wait until after the presentation and go to where the girls hang out and ask her to speak with you. Second shift starts arriving around 4-6 p. Get there at 2 or 3, take a girl, relax for a while and take another. If you have a good chemistry in her room, ask for her whatsapp. You could spend the day there and take 5 girls for 500 R, and still spend less than for one girl in Scandaloo.

I suggest you check out Casarao. 30 R entrance is consumable. Every time I've been, there's always been a couple hundred girls there. Prices are 200-400 (negotiation) for an hour. Many girls quote 40 minutes, so confirm your hour. If you speak Portuguese you can get numbers in the club.

IMO, Scandaloo is overpriced these days. Yes, the girls are pretty, but 600-1000 R for an hour is ridiculous. Cafe foto prices are similar, but you get MILFs. Your better off trying 2-3 girls at Casarao or 6-10 girls at Tangara.

If you're feeling lazy, you can find freelancers on vivalocal website. Don't forget to select you city.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I went with a nice red haired 212 yo garota, Baby Gibi is her name. Very nice! GFE, DFK, DATY, BBBJ and CIM.

For a short 3 nights or so visit it seems Tangara meets my budget. Could anyone recommend a hotel to choose as a base near Tangara -basic clean hotel with good internet and would be nice to have a fitness center but not a deal breaker if there isn't one.

Thanks,

Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2119169]Yesterday I went with a nice red haired 212 yo garota, Baby Gibi is her name. Very nice! GFE, DFK, DATY, BBBJ and CIM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frankfurt;2119398]For a short 3 nights or so visit it seems Tangara meets my budget. Could anyone recommend a hotel to choose as a base near Tangara -basic clean hotel with good internet and would be nice to have a fitness center but not a deal breaker if there isn't one.

Thanks,

Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]HOTEL PULLMAN IBIRAPUERA is within a walking distance of Tangara. http://www.pullmanhotels.com/pt-br/hotel-2125-pullman-sao-paulo-ibirapuera/index.shtml

ABG.

[QUOTE=Frankfurt;2119398]For a short 3 nights or so visit it seems Tangara meets my budget. Could anyone recommend a hotel to choose as a base near Tangara -basic clean hotel with good internet and would be nice to have a fitness center but not a deal breaker if there isn't one.
Thanks, Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]I would stay at Estanplaza Ibirapuera for a short trip (or another hotel in this area). Great location, breakfast, fitness, wifi, and local bars all around. It's about 7 minutes walking distance to both Red and Mirunas. Then Enjoy is about 7 minutes further up from Mirunas. 3 places to check out right nearby. Why limit yourself to only one place? You can take an Uber to Brooklyn and Tangara. Depending on traffic, they are just 15-20 minutes away.

Met this girl on Tinder. She said she needed help with paying her rent. Paid her br $300 and she stayed two days. Not a bad exchange, she even cooked and cleaned my flat. What a country!

Hi guys I am in São Paulo for the first time for a night and then leaving to Rio tomorrow. Can someone help me find the address of tangara? All I could find find is a star hotel by that name and no one is able to help me locate it. I have come to scandaloo and there are very few of them quoting upwards of 600 R. My hotel has recommended Bahamas how is that place?

[QUOTE=CitizenD;2121729]Hi guys I am in So Paulo for the first time for a night and then leaving to Rio tomorrow. Can someone help me find the address of tangara? All I could find find is a star hotel by that name and no one is able to help me locate it. I have come to scandaloo and there are very few of them quoting upwards of 600 R. My hotel has recommended Bahamas how is that place?[/QUOTE]

From Google search:

Clinica Tangara

Rua Tangara 200 - Vila Mariana, Sao Paulo

Phone: +55 11 5071-4737.

[QUOTE=CitizenD;2121729]Hi guys I am in So Paulo for the first time for a night and then leaving to Rio tomorrow. Can someone help me find the address of tangara? All I could find find is a star hotel by that name and no one is able to help me locate it. I have come to scandaloo and there are very few of them quoting upwards of 600 R. My hotel has recommended Bahamas how is that place?[/QUOTE]Clear your inbox, are you still in SP?

[QUOTE=JibReach;2118048]I have read the forum, which is really helpful, but still have a couple of questions to those of you with some local knowledge.

First, I am not new to Brazil. I lived there for quite a while, though that was more than a few years ago and I am trying to get me bearings as I will be visiting soon for business and pleasure for 3 or 4 weeks.

First, in the "olden" days, if you were staying at a high end business hotel with a decent bar, women would find you! It was very quiet and under the table, but they were absolutely stunning. And somewhat pricey. Does that still exist today or has that shipped sailed with the internet?

Second, what are the high end business hotels downtown? I am dating myself, I am sure, but it used to be the Maksoud and the downtown Hilton.

Third, is it possible to buy a decent bottle of scotch there without paying an arm and a leg or am stuck with duty free and then local garbage?

Thanks in advance and I hope to eventually give more than I receive![/QUOTE]Sorry, been off for a bit with the holiday. Not sure if you already visited but Renaissance is excellent, especially if you have status with Marriott. Their lounge is very nice. You can almost eat every meal there for free. And they have a nice gym that is open to the public so you get some high end lookers in there. Fasano is a bit overrated in my opinion and while The Unique is a very cool property there isn't much around and the rooms are kind of small. Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Troyster;2121758]Sorry, been off for a bit with the holiday. Not sure if you already visited but Renaissance is excellent, especially if you have status with Marriott. Their lounge is very nice. You can almost eat every meal there for free. And they have a nice gym that is open to the public so you get some high end lookers in there. Fasano is a bit overrated in my opinion and while The Unique is a very cool property there isn't much around and the rooms are kind of small. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Haven't travelled yet. But I think that it is down to the Renaissance or the Tivoli.

Thanks for the advice everyone.

Smashed Babi at Casarao last night. Anal, DFK, BBBJ, 3 hours br $300, plus I got her number and she's stopping by my flat tonight to watch the fireworks from my balcony! PM me if you want her number.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2117825]Nice japanese origin lady, completa, DFK, BBBJ & CIM!

Speaks perfect english, very GFE.

ABG.[/QUOTE]She is Japanese with a Braziian body? Do you have a pic of her?

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2118005]Tangara is a good place to hang out for a few hours and try a girl or two or three. 100 R for 1/2 hour test drive. A comfortable salon with free WiFi, water, soda and coffee. The lineup can be hit or miss for beauty, but if you go for attitude you can find a winner. If you want to interview a girl, ask to talk to her outside. You can wait until after the presentation and go to where the girls hang out and ask her to speak with you. Second shift starts arriving around 4-6 p. Get there at 2 or 3, take a girl, relax for a while and take another. If you have a good chemistry in her room, ask for her whatsapp. You could spend the day there and take 5 girls for 500 R, and still spend less than for one girl in Scandaloo.

I suggest you check out Casarao. 30 R entrance is consumable. Every time I've been, there's always been a couple hundred girls there. Prices are 200-400 (negotiation) for an hour. Many girls quote 40 minutes, so confirm your hour. If you speak Portuguese you can get numbers in the club.

IMO, Scandaloo is overpriced these days. Yes, the girls are pretty, but 600-1000 R for an hour is ridiculous. Cafe foto prices are similar, but you get MILFs. Your better off trying 2-3 girls at Casarao or 6-10 girls at Tangara.

If you're feeling lazy, you can find freelancers on vivalocal website. Don't forget to select you city.[/QUOTE]I always paid between 400 and 600 reais all night in Scandalo. I was in SP few months ago maybe they changed. I've never tried out Tangara, but I hit there when I am back.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125067]She is Japanese with a Braziian body? Do you have a pic of her?[/QUOTE]Sorry, no pictures.

ABG.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125082]I always paid between 400 and 600 reais all night in Scandalo. I was in SP few months ago maybe they changed. I've never tried out Tangara, but I hit there when I am back.[/QUOTE]Are you sure you are not confusing scandalo with casarao? 400-600 for all night from Casarao is reasonable, but I would bet money you don't pull girls from Scandalo for that number.

With all due respect I seriously doubt you are getting Scandalo girls to agree to 400 or even 600 for the entire night unless you are prince charming. 90% of them ask for 600 for 1 hour in the club and most will go down to 400 . But only the ones who are not making any money would consider leaving the club for 400 or even 600 for the entire night. Certainly not early in the evening. Maybe just before closing. But even then I doubt it. Most scandalo girls do not want to leave the club period and will charge a huge premium to leave.

I have had some Scandalo girls visit me for 300 but this was "off line". Others have refused to come down in price even for a daytime tryst, they'll text "well you saw me in Scandalo so you need to pay me Scandalo price even outside". I move on in those cases. Girls are like that here. They think their value is associated with the location. I banged a hottie in Mirunas for 150 on a Sunday, then saw the same girl in Bomboa on Monday, and she was asking 600 in Bomboa. That is how they roll.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2123194]Smashed Babi at Casarao last night. Anal, DFK, BBBJ, 3 hours br $300, plus I got her number and she's stopping by my flat tonight to watch the fireworks from my balcony! PM me if you want her number.[/QUOTE]That's what they call a popozuda! That might be a little too big for my personal taste. I hope she had a pretty face.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2125350]Are you sure you are not confusing scandalo with casarao? 400-600 for all night from Casarao is reasonable, but I would bet money you don't pull girls from Scandalo for that number.

With all due respect I seriously doubt you are getting Scandalo girls to agree to 400 or even 600 for the entire night unless you are prince charming. 90% of them ask for 600 for 1 hour in the club and most will go down to 400 . But only the ones who are not making any money would consider leaving the club for 400 or even 600 for the entire night. Certainly not early in the evening. Maybe just before closing. But even then I doubt it. Most scandalo girls do not want to leave the club period and will charge a huge premium to leave.

I have had some Scandalo girls visit me for 300 but this was "off line". Others have refused to come down in price even for a daytime tryst, they'll text "well you saw me in Scandalo so you need to pay me Scandalo price even outside". I move on in those cases. Girls are like that here. They think their value is associated with the location. I banged a hottie in Mirunas for 150 on a Sunday, then saw the same girl in Bomboa on Monday, and she was asking 600 in Bomboa. That is how they roll.[/QUOTE]No I don't confuse. Unless I have Alzheimer's disease without me noticing that. I never paid over 600 reais for all night on my last trip. I am not a charming prince. If I was one I wouldn't have trouble paying over 600.

As I can see, you did many good deals. Thanks to your Portuguese.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2125350]With all due respect I seriously doubt you are getting Scandalo girls to agree to 400 or even 600 for the entire night unless you are prince charming. 90% of them ask for 600 for 1 hour in the club and most will go down to 400 . But only the ones who are not making any money would consider leaving the club for 400 or even 600 for the entire night. Certainly not early in the evening. Maybe just before closing. But even then I doubt it. Most scandalo girls do not want to leave the club period and will charge a huge premium to leave.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I find that claim hard to believe too. When I went, the standard price that most of the girls were asking for was 600 reals for an hour like you say. One went as low as 400 without me having to bargain, but she was not one of the top-tier girls in there either, so I passed. A blonde who I found to be quite attractive was OK with 500 reals for an hour, or 600 with anal included. I wanted anal hehehe! The hottest girl I banged in Sampa was yet another blue-eyed blonde (gorgeous) at Scandalo, and she started out quoting 800 for an hour! Said that's what the Japanese guys were paying her. Do I look Japanese to you? I countered with 500. We went to the room for 600. I did not inquire about take-out from Sandalo as I was not particularly interested in that. Although, I did take one girl out of Bomboa, which was not one of my better Sao Paolo experiences. She was too drunk to give good skull.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125505]No I don't confuse. Unless I have Alzheimer's disease without me noticing that. I never paid over 600 reais for all night on my last trip. I am not a charming prince. If I was one I wouldn't have trouble paying over 600.

As I can see, you did many good deals. Thanks to your Portuguese.[/QUOTE]Komo,

I recall you debated with me in this forum several months ago after your visit to SPm how you insisted that Rio was better for mongering than SP, then you went to Rio, and now you tell the Rio board that SP is better. So I have reason to doubt your judgement.

I'm sorry, I just don't believe you I don't know why you would lie. I think you are just misremembering. Or maybe it was one fluke. I think this is misinformation which will lead other members to wrong conclusions. How many scandalo gilrs did you pull for "all night" at 600 reias? You are talking reias? Were these what you would consider typical scandalo hotties or girls that were well below the house average in looks? . with 150 girls there are always some girls that are just plain looking.

What was "all night"? Very few boate girls want to do "all night" as in leave the club, screw, sleep and screw in morning. Most will say "I'll stay until you are satisfied, by which they mean about 2 hours after which they want to go sleep in their own bed. So all night is often not what it used to be.

Hello all,

I will be staying in alphaville (comfort suites) for 3 weeks. Is there any good address or contact that you know of in this area?

I am new to Brazil and don't speak a word of Portuguese, don't know if a lot of garotas are speaking English.

Every advices will be much appreciated. Knowing that I won't be able to move outside alphaville unfortunately.

Regards,

B.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2125549]Komo,

I recall you debated with me in this forum several months ago after your visit to SPm how you insisted that Rio was better for mongering than SP, then you went to Rio, and now you tell the Rio board that SP is better. So I have reason to doubt your judgement.

I'm sorry, I just don't believe you I don't know why you would lie. I think you are just misremembering. Or maybe it was one fluke. I think this is misinformation which will lead other members to wrong conclusions. How many scandalo gilrs did you pull for "all night" at 600 reias? You are talking reias? Were these what you would consider typical scandalo hotties or girls that were well below the house average in looks? . with 150 girls there are always some girls that are just plain looking.

What was "all night"? Very few boate girls want to do "all night" as in leave the club, screw, sleep and screw in morning. Most will say "I'll stay until you are satisfied, by which they mean about 2 hours after which they want to go sleep in their own bed. So all night is often not what it used to be.[/QUOTE]SP is way better than Rio de Janeiro. The last time I said Rio was way better than SP was when I had not visited SP yet (before December 2016). I have more experience with mongering scenes in Rio. . I don't mislead any members. Unfortunately SP is more expensive, that's why I prefer Rio of the past time. Please read my threads. Do research and check the dates of my posts before jumping to conclusions.

I have been to Scandalo on my second trip to SP. My first time going to Sp was in December 2016. I am talking about reais not dollars. Maybe You were not lucky or you are considered to be a typical gringo. It is not because you don't succeed that means others don't succeed. There are many factors. I only fucked three scandalo girls.

Rio was better in the pas but now it is dead. P.S. We all have different tastes I don't know what the typical or plain looking girl looks like, to you. I don't need you to believe me because I don't care. Sorry for misremembering I have just had Alzheimer's disease.

It is a waste of time to reply to my post, it is no use talking to me having Alzheimer's disease. I have no memory.

Thanks for your understanding.

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2125695]I will be staying in alphaville (comfort suites) for 3 weeks. Is there any good address or contact that you know of in this area? I am new to Brazil and don't speak a word of Portuguese, don't know if a lot of garotas are speaking English. Every advices will be much appreciated. Knowing that I won't be able to move outside alphaville unfortunately.[/QUOTE]You're stuck in Alphaville. You're new to Brazil and you don't speak a word of Portuguese. Generally, three strikes you're screwed (or in this case, not screwed), but the good news you have three weeks to figure it out.

Here's my advice:

Get your ass on WhatsApp. Use Google translator or another translator to communicate on WhatsApp.

Befriend a cool doorman or reception guy who you could tip if you need to speak with a girl on the phone. Perhaps they even know some local talent.

Since Alphaville is not a hot bed of activity, I would be inclined to guide you to find the few escorts working the Alphaville and Barueri area. These might not be the youngest, tightest girls in Brazil, but these women might still blow your mind. If money's no object, you might be able to get a hot escort to jump in an Uber and come see you for her two hour fee and a premium. You can always ask (on WhatsApp). I'm guessing late morning or early afternoons might work best for them (less traffic, less business). Who knows they might be slow on weekends? Many Brazilians hang with the family on weekends.

There's a few local websites that you will have to get clever at using. I have spoken before about how to navigate them. In fairness to the ISG operator, I will not name them here. While I think ISG is a great website for travelers, it really does not compete the same way with the local sites built for locals.

A quick search I found a highly-rated mature escort in the area and a highly-regarded massage place. Massage places can be good because there's no commitment to take a look.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/gata-namoradinha-de-seios-grandes-e-liberal-atendimento-completo-id-vwddt[/URL]

[URL]https://massagistasdealphaville.********.com.br/[/URL]

If you have more questions, feel free to PM me.

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2125695]Hello all,

I will be staying in alphaville (comfort suites) for 3 weeks. Is there any good address or contact that you know of in this area?

I am new to Brazil and don't speak a word of Portuguese, don't know if a lot of garotas are speaking English.

Every advices will be much appreciated. Knowing that I won't be able to move outside alphaville unfortunately.

Regards,

B.[/QUOTE]Best is to hire a Uber and go to some good clinica in Sao Paulo, Clinica Tangara has two english speaking managers, Takuma and Suzan.And a line up of more than 20 garotas.

Adress: Rua Tangara 200 , near parque do Ibirapuera.

Regards,

ABG.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125844]SP is way better than Rio de Janeiro. The last time I said Rio was way better than SP was when I had not visited SP yet (before December 2016). I have more experience with mongering scenes in Rio. I don't mislead any members.[/QUOTE]If you told people that Rio was better than Sampa when you had never been to Sampa, then in my books that qualifies as misleading people. How could you have personal knowledge that one place was better than the other when you hadn't been to one of them? Now, I too have told people that I think Rio is better than Sampa, and stated my reasons for saying that. But, I drew that conclusion only after I had mongered in both cities. That's the way to go about it my friend. You can't draw valid comparisons when you only have half the facts.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125844]SP is way better than Rio de Janeiro. The last time I said Rio was way better than SP was when I had not visited SP yet (before December 2016). I have more experience with mongering scenes in Rio. . I don't mislead any members. Unfortunately SP is more expensive, that's why I prefer Rio of the past time. Please read my threads. Do research and check the dates of my posts before jumping to conclusions.

I have been to Scandalo on my second trip to SP. My first time going to Sp was in December 2016. I am talking about reais not dollars. Maybe You were not lucky or you are considered to be a typical gringo. It is not because you don't succeed that means others don't succeed. There are many factors. I only fucked three scandalo girls.g.[/QUOTE]You seem like a nice guy but you are a very unreliable poster when it comes to providing accurate information. That is my complaint.

You write above that you first said Rio was better than SP BEFORE you ever visited SP? That alone proves my point. You had no personal experience in SP yet posted on this board that Rio was better. Just straight up unreliable reportage.

Then you say that after you visted SP at the end of 2016 you changed your mind and wrrote that SP was better. Now you are misreporting AGAIN right now. You and I argued in January of 2017 after your 10 day visit to SP and you were still claiming RJ was better than SP. Today you are claiming that you did not argue with me after your visit. Straight up wrong. You wrote in January "I wrote this report before going to Sao Paulo, I was in Sao Paulo for one weeks now I can say I prefer Rio over Sao Paulo ". Several posts of debate ensued in January of 2017. You read the posts, as you are the one with the memory problem.

My point is not whether SP or Rio is better, that is an opinion. My point is that you really do have a tendency to contradict yourself and misremember. I am not saying you are a liar. But I am saying that you are unreliable. This board exists for the purposes of trading information. Good information should be commended. Bad information should be called out.

When you write that you paid 400-600 for all night at Scadnalo, I called that out because that is not the norm there. Not the norm for gringos, and not the norm for Brasileiros. That is not the norm for anyone and has not been the norm for years at Scandalo. Someone planning a trip to SP reading this board and seeing your misinformation would be misled. That is why I call you out. Everyone agrees that the girls start by asking for 600-800 per HOUR in Scandalo. And then you ask us to believe that you "always pay" 400-600 for all night. So the conversation is "How much?" "600 an hour amor". "How about 400 all night at my place? "OK amor". Right.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125844]SP is way better than Rio de Janeiro. The last time I said Rio was way better than SP was when I had not visited SP yet (before December 2016). I have more experience with mongering scenes in Rio. . I don't mislead any members. Unfortunately SP is more expensive, that's why I prefer Rio of the past time. Please read my threads. Do research and check the dates of my posts before jumping to conclusions.[/QUOTE]Funny post.

Back when you said that Rio was the way better city, you had not yet visited SP.

Now that you've actually been to SP, you say that SP is way better, LOL.

In actuality, neither of them are better or way better, or worse than the other. They're just different.

Just because one's tastes are different, or one has dreams of the past, doesn't make one city particularly better than the other.

They are both fun.

You are simply stating your preference, which is great.

We're all entitled to our opinions.

As far as price paid to girls at Scandallo, etc;.

Just as you did, once you get a girl out of there, any price is feasible.

I've met girls who work at the various venues, depending on the time of day, or day of the week; Cafe Photo, Scandallo, Casarao, and even at the low end daytime places in Centro.

They charge depending on the venue, from a 50R quickie, to 800R from a fat cat at Scandallo.

In all fairness to Komo, it is possible he pulled a Scandaloo girl all night for 600 reais. Last year, I had a Scandaloo girl spend the night with me several times for below market rates. I was lucky and we had a connection. I paid 650 to get her out of the club at 2 am after we had been together several times. Twice she spent the night for 400 R. One of those nights I took her to a concert. Eventually, she bailed on me. Said she needed to earn more money.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2126222]In all fairness to Komo, it is possible he pulled a Scandaloo girl all night for 600 reais. Last year, I had a Scandaloo girl spend the night with me several times for below market rates. I was lucky and we had a connection. I paid 650 to get her out of the club at 2 am after we had been together several times. Twice she spent the night for 400 R. One of those nights I took her to a concert. Eventually, she bailed on me. Said she needed to earn more money.[/QUOTE]Of course ANYTHING is possible. That is why I asked him initially if he was a prince charming. In your case, it sounds like you got the girls phone number first, and arranged to meet her outside of her work schedule. That is not an uncommon practice, and yes, some boate girls will lower their rates if you contact them outside the club, there is no disputing that. In fact, I have not sessioned inside Scandalo in years for that very reason. Get numbers, follow up, some work out some don't, that is a good strategy.

But, my critique of Komo's post was that his phrasing suggested that an all night rate of 400-600 was the "old norm" and the 600-1000 an hour that you quoted was some shocking new development. He acted surprised that girls are asking 600-1000 an hour, saying "I was in SP few months ago maybe they changed."

Nothing has changed, girls have been asking 600 and up an hour, and 1000-15000 to leave the club, as their initial offer for all of 2017 and before. That is the standard offer for all but the bottom tier there. If he had replied to your original post, "yeah, they all asked me for 1000 to leave the club but I negotiated and found a few that came down to 400 or 600" then I would not have raised an eyebrow or questioned his post.

My advice to anyone reading this forum contemplating a trip is to not depend too heavily on opinions on destinations expressed here. I have been to both Rio and SP and had a great time in both. Rio has the added advantage of a beach where you can ogle the best scantily clad female bodies on the planet. If that is not your thing then you can visit SP where the mongering, though more expensive, is just as good as far as I am concerned. However, that is just my taste. Mongers wishing to visit just one of these destinations should research extensively before making a decision. On reflection I have decided to add this report to the Rio thread as well.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2125850]You're stuck in Alphaville. You're new to Brazil and you don't speak a word of Portuguese. Generally, three strikes you're screwed (or in this case, not screwed), but the good news you have three weeks to figure it out.

Here's my advice:

Get your ass on WhatsApp. Use Google translator or another translator to communicate on WhatsApp.

Befriend a cool doorman or reception guy who you could tip if you need to speak with a girl on the phone. Perhaps they even know some local talent..[/QUOTE]Hello,

I do thank you for your answer and details.

It is nice to have a good and active forum.

Thanks for your inputs!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2125867]Best is to hire a Uber and go to some good clinica in Sao Paulo, Clinica Tangara has two english speaking managers, Takuma and Suzan.And a line up of more than 20 garotas.

Adress: Rua Tangara 200 , near parque do Ibirapuera.

Regards,

ABG.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your tips. Will try to check it out!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2126170]Funny post.

Back when you said that Rio was the way better city, you had not yet visited SP.

Now that you've actually been to SP, you say that SP is way better, LOL.

In actuality, neither of them are better or way better, or worse than the other. They're just different.

Just because one's tastes are different, or one has dreams of the past, doesn't make one city particularly better than the other.

They are both fun.[/QUOTE]Your opinion is your opinion, you like both cities, it is good for you, I am not here to judge people on their preference and how they monger. What I most hate is to be called a liar. I prefer Sao Paulo. If it was 10 years ago I would prefer Rio de Janeiro over Sao Paulo but unfortunately, I was still too young at that time. Through hearing about the old good days in Rio de Janeiro, I am sure it was a better city in the past. Yes I know Rio is fun. Some people would say both cities are different, Sao Paulo is better or Rio is better, we all have different preferences.

I made wrong judgments like everybody did in their life because mistakes are human.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2126222]In all fairness to Komo, it is possible he pulled a Scandaloo girl all night for 600 reais. Last year, I had a Scandaloo girl spend the night with me several times for below market rates. I was lucky and we had a connection. I paid 650 to get her out of the club at 2 am after we had been together several times. Twice she spent the night for 400 R. One of those nights I took her to a concert. Eventually, she bailed on me. Said she needed to earn more money.[/QUOTE]Everything is possible, as I said I never paid over 600 reais for a girl. Yes the price is more expensive in Scandalo I know that. The same thing happens in Japan in some soaplands in Yoshiwara. Why do I have to fucking pay over 60 000 yen in the same location? When I only pay 30 000 yen. Many newbies get screwed. Language barrier and lack of knowledge of the culture. In Japan the prices are exorbitant and more expensive.

To me, every club is a game even when they are brothels. You just have to know how to deal with girls. There are girls that turned down my offer but there are also girls that said yes. It doesn't depend on the girl's look but it depends on how guys act and if girls get good vibes from guys. I had bad experience like everybody. I don't judge Rovnak because I don't know him I am not here to judge people. If people don't believe me I don't care because it doesn't matter to me.

Again Rovnak, just read all my posts and check the dates before jumping to conclusions. I am sure the thread you are talking about was posted in 2016. I made a judgment on a city I hadn't visited yet. Nowadays who never made a mistake? I am not a liar and not too stupid to confuse the clubs because I know how much I paid. Lying to people on this forum is not beneficial to me. The only time I lie is when I want to fuck a girl. I don't profit from lying to anybody on this forum. Don't call people liars when you don't know them. I am not a scam or liar and I met around 10 members on this forum.

This forum is for sharing your experience and not criticizing people. Keep on finding fault with me is useless.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2126606]Everything is possible, as I said I never paid over 600 reais for a girl. Yes the price is more expensive in Scandalo I know that. The same thing happens in Japan in some soaplands in Yoshiwara. Why do I have to fucking pay over 60 000 yen in the same location? When I only pay 30 000 yen. Many newbies get screwed. Language barrier and lack of knowledge of the culture. In Japan the prices are exorbitant and more expensive.

To me, every club is a game even when they are brothels. You just have to know how to deal with girls. There are girls that turned down my offer but there are also girls that said yes. It doesn't depend on the girl's look but it depends on how guys act and if girls get good vibes from guys. I had bad experience like everybody. I don't judge Rovnak because I don't know him I am not here to judge people. If people don't believe me I don't care because it doesn't matter to me..[/QUOTE]OK Komo. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2126602]Your opinion is your opinion... .[/QUOTE]Right on amigo!

Enjoy Japan, hope you make it back to Brazil logo.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2126668]Right on amigo!

Enjoy Japan, hope you make it back to Brazil logo.[/QUOTE]I don't really enjoy Japan, I am just out there for work. I haven't been to saoaplands for a while. I just went there for mongering experience. It is very easy to pick up Japanese regulars as a gaijin but unfortunately I am not into Asians. There are not many white women out there. The only white girl I fuck in Japan at the moment is an American expatriate. I can't wait to move back to Brazil.

I fucking envy you living in Brazil. Hope someday I will have a chance to stay in Brazil for keeps.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2126489]My advice to anyone reading this forum contemplating a trip is to not depend too heavily on opinions on destinations expressed here. I have been to both Rio and SP and had a great time in both. Rio has the added advantage of a beach where you can ogle the best scantily clad female bodies on the planet. If that is not your thing then you can visit SP where the mongering, though more expensive, is just as good as far as I am concerned. However, that is just my taste. Mongers wishing to visit just one of these destinations should research extensively before making a decision. On reflection I have decided to add this report to the Rio thread as well.[/QUOTE]I agree with Turgid. Both are great mongering destinations. Mongering aside, Rio is a premier vacation destination. Sao Paulo probably has the edge in mongering, but it is an urban destination that has limited options for tourists.

Once you're in Brazil, it's fairly easy to visit both.

Hello all!

I heard that there was a huge Japanese community in SP.

Do you know if some asian girls are willing to sell their services? Any good trusted addresses?

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2127623]Hello all!

I heard that there was a huge Japanese community in SP.

Do you know if some asian girls are willing to sell their services? Any good trusted addresses?[/QUOTE]The biggest Japanese community outside Japan is in Brazil.

There are Asian Brazilians in Sao Paulo. There will be some experts at mongering in Sao Paulo that will answer your question. I am not an expert but I know there are some Asian Brazilians in Brazil. Altobomgosto knows the answer. He wrote many reports of different clinicas (prives).

I've never been to clinicas in SP. I ve only been to a few clubs. What I can say from my experience you find any kinds of girls in clubs. You just have to know how to negotiate unlike the clinicas where the prices are fixed. Why to go to Brazil to fuck Asians.

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2127623]Hello all!

I heard that there was a huge Japanese community in SP.

Do you know if some asian girls are willing to sell their services? Any good trusted addresses?[/QUOTE]Interesting question.

There are some very attractive Sao Paulo escorts with Japanese names, but they look to be of mixed heritage with far curvier figures than you would normally find on 100% Asian women. I personally find that very hot. The Liberdade neighborhood is the legacy home of many of the Japanese. Again, the attractive women I have seen there appear to be of mixed heritage.

I get the sense that the Japanese migration wave ended so long ago. There might not be a lot of 100% Japanese in Sao Paulo. Younger generations of Japanese-Brazilians are obviously more likely to be of mixed heritage while grandma might be 100% Japanese.

I'm not trying to be glib, but when this topic has come up posters have generally said don't go to Sao Paulo for Asian women.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2127776]I'm not trying to be glib, but when this topic has come up posters have generally said don't go to Sao Paulo for Asian women.[/QUOTE]I definitely did not see a lot of working girls with an Asian look when I was in Sao Paulo, and I hit a lot of places too. Not saying they aren't there, but they weren't in the spots I hit, and I have not read about there being a lot of working girls of this type in Sampa either.

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2127623]Hello all!

I heard that there was a huge Japanese community in SP.

Do you know if some asian girls are willing to sell their services? Any good trusted addresses?[/QUOTE]Huge Japanese community yes, but few Japanese garotas. As others have written, miscegenation in Brazil is very rapid, lots of mixed "mestica" to be found, but the looks are distinctly Brazilian. But, hey, that is why most of us go to Brazil in the first place, no?

There is one very Japanese look and style girl named Keiko, who works occasionally at Chanes 57 and occasionally at Enjoy Spa. She is very petite, mixed race but raised in Japan and very Japanese compared to most mesticas. She is super if you can find her.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2128044]Huge Japanese community yes, but few Japanese garotas. As others have written, miscegenation in Brazil is very rapid, lots of mixed "mestica" to be found, but the looks are distinctly Brazilian. But, hey, that is why most of us go to Brazil in the first place, no?

There is one very Japanese look and style girl named Keiko, who works occasionally at Chanes 57 and occasionally at Enjoy Spa. She is very petite, mixed race but raised in Japan and very Japanese compared to most mesticas. She is super if you can find her.[/QUOTE]Thank you again for all the information. But you are right why go to Brazil for Asians xD.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2127764]The biggest Japanese community outside Japan is in Brazil.

There are Asian Brazilians in Sao Paulo. There will be some experts at mongering in Sao Paulo that will answer your question. I am not an expert but I know there are some Asian Brazilians in Brazil. Altobomgosto knows the answer. He wrote many reports of different clinicas (prives).

I've never been to clinicas in SP. I ve only been to a few clubs. What I can say from my experience you find any kinds of girls in clubs. You just have to know how to negotiate unlike the clinicas where the prices are fixed. Why to go to Brazil to fuck Asians.[/QUOTE]Harumi a mestiza, she works at Tangara. She looks almost as a 100% japa.

ABG.

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2128083]Thank you again for all the information. But you are right why go to Brazil for Asians xD.[/QUOTE]Just to mix it up. I love Brasil and I certainly prefer Latinas over Asians, but it's cool to try different flavors. One of my all-time great experiences in this hobby was with a Japanese chica in Rio years ago. She was originally from the South somewhere (Porto Alegre?) and she was a superstar in every category. Body / face / performance.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2126489]My advice to anyone reading this forum contemplating a trip is to not depend too heavily on opinions on destinations expressed here. I have been to both Rio and SP and had a great time in both. Rio has the added advantage of a beach where you can ogle the best scantily clad female bodies on the planet. If that is not your thing then you can visit SP where the mongering, though more expensive, is just as good as far as I am concerned. However, that is just my taste. Mongers wishing to visit just one of these destinations should research extensively before making a decision. On reflection I have decided to add this report to the Rio thread as well.[/QUOTE]Hi mate!

I agree with your comment and share the same opinion as you. I am a man who has traveled practically throughout his life. I haven't been to many different places, but I have been to the same ones quite a few number of times, which is the reason why I am so familiar with them. I agree with your idea of not getting carried away by others opinions (or our own, for that matter) when we visit a place. Everything is quite relative in this life and we can always like something more or less depending on the context, the kind of day we are having, the type of experience we have had, etc.

I have never been to Brazil but if I make up my mind to visit your country someday, I will surely visit several cities like Sao Paulo and Rio. Basically, the longer the trips, the more you recover your investment. And I am sure that I will have some good experiences at both places. Or maybe at none of them. But I will only find that out when the moment arrives. You put it very nicely, my friend. Cheers!

[QUOTE=CakeJake;2129216]Hi mate!

I agree with your comment and share the same opinion as you. I am a man who has traveled practically throughout his life. I haven't been to many different places, but I have been to the same ones quite a few number of times, which is the reason why I am so familiar with them. I agree with your idea of not getting carried away by others opinions (or our own, for that matter) when we visit a place. Everything is quite relative in this life and we can always like something more or less depending on the context, the kind of day we are having, the type of experience we have had, etc.

I have never been to Brazil but if I make up my mind to visit your country someday, I will surely visit several cities like Sao Paulo and Rio. Basically, the longer the trips, the more you recover your investment. And I am sure that I will have some good experiences at both places. Or maybe at none of them. But I will only find that out when the moment arrives. You put it very nicely, my friend. Cheers![/QUOTE]Say what? LOL.

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2128083]Thank you again for all the information. But you are right why go to Brazil for Asians xD.[/QUOTE]There are some options. Two very pretty, highly rated performers. Both have a lot of candid photos on twitter. Note that Angeline Kim's Sao Paulo number is on her twitter account. 31 area code is Belo Horizonte where she spends part of her time.

[URL]https://agenda31.com.br/modelo/angeline-kim/[/URL]

[URL]https://marcelinhayamada.wixsite.com/marcelayamada/fotos[/URL]

Went to Tangara the day before yesterday, lineup of 42 girls, lots of customers also, my choice was the very the sexy Bombom, a tall mulata dressed as a nurse. DFK, BBBJ and CIM.

150 reais = 1 hour.

ABG.

Its great to be back on Brazilian soil! Gave a lot of thought as to which clinica I should visit first and finally decided upon Abbobora which I recall from my last visit there in 2016 had some delicious morsels. Entered and joined a couple of Asians and Brazilians in the main room. There was a presentation of eleven providers all of whom were delightful there being not one I would not have wanted to sample. What I like about presentations in SP clinicas is that each babe plants a kiss on ya. I decided to choose the girl who gave me the most passionate kiss. Her name was Suzy, dirty blonde, 5' 7", c cups. Everything was on the menu. I did not request anal which I'm sure was available (this is Brazil after all). After I leched she gave me a pretty decent massage. 1 hr = 260 Rs. You pay 110 Rs to the reception before the deed and 150 to the garota afterwards. Suzy is totally recommended. Attractive face, nice body although without the typical Brazilian big bunda.

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2127623]Hello all!

I heard that there was a huge Japanese community in SP.

Do you know if some asian girls are willing to sell their services? Any good trusted addresses?[/QUOTE]When the Olympics was going on I was going around Brazil for 5 weeks. I banged two half Japanese / Brazilian girls. I found them both online. I have to say they had awesome Brazilian shaped bodies. But, I think they mostly hid their faces online because their faces were not very good looking. They were about a 3 in the face. I like Asian girls and I like Brazilian girls, and mixed girls, but these women were not blessed with a good looking face. If you find one, see if you can see her face first.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;2136504]When the Olympics was going on I was going around Brazil for 5 weeks. I banged two half Japanese / Brazilian girls. I found them both online. I have to say they had awesome Brazilian shaped bodies. But, I think they mostly hid their faces online because their faces were not very good looking. They were about a 3 in the face. I like Asian girls and I like Brazilian girls, and mixed girls, but these women were not blessed with a good looking face. If you find one, see if you can see her face first.[/QUOTE]That's why I never use any escort website. In Japan most escort websites suck, girls hide their face online and photoshop their pictures. Living in Japan, I always tell people not to pick a girl based on a photo.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2136560]That's why I never use any escort website. In Japan most escort websites suck, girls hide their face online and photoshop their pictures. Living in Japan, I always tell people not to pick a girl based on a photo.[/QUOTE]Don't fall in love with photos!

Work backwards! Read the online feedback for escorts girls first. If a girl has overwhelming positive experiences, then look-up her web photos.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;2136504]When the Olympics was going on I was going around Brazil for 5 weeks. I banged two half Japanese / Brazilian girls. I found them both online. I have to say they had awesome Brazilian shaped bodies. But, I think they mostly hid their faces online because their faces were not very good looking. They were about a 3 in the face. I like Asian girls and I like Brazilian girls, and mixed girls, but these women were not blessed with a good looking face. If you find one, see if you can see her face first.[/QUOTE]You should have told her to send you her photo first. If she won't send a photo, you have 2 choices, let her come or delete her. If you are willing to roll the dice and still interested let her get an uber and come. When she shows and you find her 'not good looking', pay her uber fare and send her away. I would just delete her. No need to waste my time.
Look at 29 Jan in the Rio thread. This chick was an 8 in the face. Her all natural body and attitude was FANTASTIC, 9 - 9.5 IMO. Saw her in Rio first, then again in Sp (on my way out. I was flying on miles, so I changed my flight out of SP to the later flight. Got about a 6 hour layover and enough time for 2 rounds with her).

I had the Brazilian porn star Manu Fox on my bucket list. Send her a message the evening of my arrival on Wednesday and she responded the next morning. I met her in her apartment in Rua Major Diogo. Small apartment, but clean. Manu is very nice and respectful person. She looks exactly the same as the photos that are not photoshopped, in her twitter account [URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/manufoxxx?lang=en[/URL] Good BBBJ, good vaginal. Anal I didn't do, even if it is included in the price, BRL 300. Even if she did everything I asked her to do, she was quite mechanical and I always had to ask her to do this and do that. I like more active girls. I think it could be better in the second time, but I'm not planning to repeat. For those who are interested, she also does outcalls.

After this session I headed to Clinica Kin, Travessa Libera Rivelino, 210. It's some 100 meters from Clinica Brooklin, in the end of a small alley. The staff and the premises are very nice. The room I had, didn't have a bed, but a mattress. I have to ask next time if they have rooms with bed. The price is 200 and 260 for four hands. There must have been some 20 girls. Many of the girls are ex Brooklin. I picked Jessica, tanned girl, long black hair, 160 and big silicone tits. This girl was a total opposite of Manu. She was all over me, all the time. She wouldn't let me rest, when the jet lag and beer took over me. Every perversion you have in mind, this girl does it. Never had anyone's tongue so deep in my ass. She must have misunderstood me when I asked her if she had any dildos. She brought five of the them and a strap on and wanted to fuck my ass, which I declined. I spent four hours with her and had a lot of fun. The only negative point would be the fake moans and groans she did. 800 Temers, well spent.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2139101]I had the Brazilian porn star Manu Fox on my bucket list. Send her a message the evening of my arrival on Wednesday and she responded the next morning. I met her in her apartment in Rua Major Diogo. Small apartment, but clean. Manu is very nice and respectful person. She looks exactly the same as the photos, which are not photoshopped, in her twitter account [URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/manufoxxx?lang=en[/URL] Good BBBJ, good vaginal. Anal I didn't do, even if it is included in the price, BRL 300. Even if she did everything I asked her to do, she was quite mechanical and I always had to ask her to do this and do that. I like more active girls. I think it could be better in the second time, but I'm not planning to repeat. For those who are interested, she also does outcalls.[/QUOTE]Just goes to show that just because she's a porn star doesn't mean she's going to be good. You're lucky that she even looked like she does in the movies. Most of those girls are heavily made up, and they just don't look as good in real life. There are definitely some porn stars I would like to have, like Monica Santhiago (see image), but I have never gotten obsessed with having bagged a porn star. It's just that I've been with so many hot girls who were such outstanding performers that they could have been in pictures if they wanted to. And that's good enough for me. You oughta be in pictures: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjRxJxak4qA[/URL] hahaha! On another note, Nordico what happened to your Sampa map man? Please, please, please bring it back!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2139124]Just goes to show that just because she's a porn star doesn't mean she's going to be good. You're lucky that she even looked like she does in the movies. Most of those girls are heavily made up, and they just don't look as good in real life. There are definitely some porn stars I would like to have, like Monica Santhiago (see image), but I have never gotten obsessed with having bagged a porn star. It's just that I've been with so many hot girls who were such outstanding performers that they could have been in pictures if they wanted to. And that's good enough for me. You oughta be in pictures: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjRxJxak4qA[/URL] hahaha! On another note, Nordico what happened to your Sampa map man? Please, please, please bring it back![/QUOTE]I kind of got tired of all the bullshit arguments in the forum and needed a break from it. Here is the link to the map [URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1obZnjYz9PM6RB8x5HosK6XFVXGWLYK3d&usp=sharing[/URL].

I still don't regret going to fuck Manu. It was only 300, even if I got the porn star experience I was looking for from Jessica. Ha ha, Monica Santhiago is too thick to my taste. Monica Mattos is more the type I like.

Anyway I went again to Clinica Kin Center and spent one hour with Fernanda, who is the best looking girl I have seen there. It was a total GFE. First 20 minutes she was quite shy with me (same with other guys, according to a local forum), but after I ate her pussy and we went together to the shower, she loosened up and the session got better. Probably won't repeat with her, because I'm more into sacanagem, slutty girls and hours long parties with all the dirty things that come to our minds.

The place has only two rooms with beds, so it can be quite difficult for an idle gringo to get one of those. I have reserved one of the rooms for me tomorrow and going to have a mini party with Camila, who is an old friend from Brooklin times and a super performer.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2139315]I kind of got tired of all the bullshit arguments in the forum and needed a break from it. Here is the link to the map [URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1obZnjYz9PM6RB8x5HosK6XFVXGWLYK3d&usp=sharing[/URL]. Ha ha, Monica Santhiago is too thick to my taste. Monica Mattos is more the type I like.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the map man! It's a great resource for the forum. Yeah, Monica Santhiago. She's 5 foot, 3 inches and most of that is her big, round butt LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=Nordico;2139315]I kind of got tired of all the bullshit arguments in the forum and needed a break from it. Here is the link to the map [URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1obZnjYz9PM6RB8x5HosK6XFVXGWLYK3d&usp=sharing[/URL].

I still don't regret going to fuck Manu. It was only 300, even if I got the porn star experience I was looking for from Jessica. Ha ha, Monica Santhiago is too thick to my taste. Monica Mattos is more the type I like.

Anyway I went again to Clinica Kin Center and spent one hour with Fernanda, who is the best looking girl I have seen there. It was a total GFE. First 20 minutes she was quite shy with me (same with other guys, according to a local forum), but after I ate her pussy and we went together to the shower, she loosened up and the session got better. Probably won't repeat with her, because I'm more into sacanagem, slutty girls and hours long parties with all the dirty things that come to our minds.

The place has only two rooms with beds, so it can be quite difficult for an idle gringo to get one of those. I have reserved one of the rooms for me tomorrow and going to have a mini party with Camila, who is an old friend from Brooklin times and a super performer.[/QUOTE]My favourit brazilian porn star is Abby Lee. Beautiful white skinned woman.

After I drank quite a few capirinhas I decided to go to Casarao at 1. 30 am. I had to change my opinion about the place. It was full of women, easily couple of hundred. I started talk to a girl from Curitiba. Her name is Luciana ex Paulinha. A real stunner, white skin, dark brown hair and a perfect body. She said that she always comes to work in Scandallo Lounge, but it must be really slow there, because of the Carnaval. I asked the price and she told me 250 with the room included for 40 minutes. Had to wait 15 minutes for the room, which was renovated and really nice. Spent total of 2 hours with her in the room fucking and joking and drinking. She had the tightest asshole, which looked like it's never been used, but she gave it to me willingly. After the long session we went downstairs to watch the striptease, as she was not looking for other customers. Really great experience.

I don't think I'll go back to Kin Center, because even if the staff and the place are really nice, the quality of the girls is not very good, with few exceptions. The other day there, a girl wanted to come to my hotel with no charge, because she lives so far away. Unfortunately I had to decline, because I was almost dead from jet lag and beer.

If hooking up with a porn star is your thing, Brazil is the place. The current Brazilian porn girls seem to be floating around escorting. The price is many times not at a premium like it can be in the USA And Europe. I suspect Brazilian men don't want to know about the 100+ guys the girl has bare-backed. I think I've heard that was the case.

Not to turn this into a porn thread listing favorites blah-blah this girl that girl, I think Brazilian porn peaked out last decade. There were many more beautiful girls in Brazilian porn ten years ago. Some did one or two scenes for some quick cash so you might've not found their stuff. Very few wanted have a porn career. It seems to have corresponded to the hey-day of pay for play in Brazil. It might not be a coincidence. I saw many top girls from the termas, Help, Cafe Photo pop up in a scene. It was always fun to watch a Brazilian DVD and say that girl spent the night at my place.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2140087]If hooking up with a porn star is your thing, Brazil is the place. The current Brazilian porn girls seem to be floating around escorting. The price is many times not at a premium like it can be in the USA And Europe. I suspect Brazilian men don't want to know about the 100+ guys the girl has bare-backed. I think I've heard that was the case.

Not to turn this into a porn thread listing favorites blah-blah this girl that girl, I think Brazilian porn peaked out last decade. There were many more beautiful girls in Brazilian porn ten years ago. Some did one or two scenes for some quick cash so you might've not found their stuff. Very few wanted have a porn career. It seems to have corresponded to the hey-day of pay for play in Brazil. It might not be a coincidence. I saw many top girls from the termas, Help, Cafe Photo pop up in a scene. It was always fun to watch a Brazilian DVD and say that girl spent the night at my place.[/QUOTE]I am not interested in fucking porn stars, I just like how they look. Many girls look like porn stars, they are fresher and hotter.

I also like this girl, she is not a porn star, her name is Morena Baccarin. I don't know why, but I am more into Caucasian and Mediterranean looking women.

My latest victim was [URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/deborat38292918?lang=en[/URL] The photo, at pracinha do Mercure Times Square, I took with my phone after the session. I must say that in real life she looks better than the photos. I contacted her through WhatsApp and we agreed for BRL 400 for 1,5 hours in my hotel. I waited for her downstairs and we just walked past the lobby to the elevators. This girl is simply great. One meter into my room and I had her tongue halfway into my throat. She was very active in the bed. No need to say, do this, do that, to her. I recommend this girl if you are looking for something more than just a blow job and missionary.

Afterwards we went for dinner in Jardins. I heard really interesting stories about her life. Even if she's not advertising it, she likes most being a dominatrix and can beat the shit out of you or do many other kinky things, if you like. This girl once again confirmed my idea, that you get most out of Brazilian girls if you treat them well, are funny and you are not boring in the bed. We had known each others 1,5 hours and she asked me for dinner with her and I'm not the best looking guy in town or the best performer in the sack. Just keep the session interesting.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2140168]My latest victim was [URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/deborat38292918?lang=en[/URL] The photo, at pracinha do Mercure Times Square, I took with my phone after the session. I must say that in real life she looks better than the photos. I contacted her through WhatsApp and we agreed for BRL 400 for 1,5 hours in my hotel. I waited for her downstairs and we just walked past the lobby to the elevators. This girl is simply great. One meter into my room and I had her tongue halfway into my throat. She was very active in the bed. No need to say, do this, do that, to her. I recommend this girl if you are looking for something more than just a blow job and missionary.

Afterwards we went for dinner in Jardins. I heard really interesting stories about her life. Even if she's not advertising it, she likes most being a dominatrix and can beat the shit out of you or do many other kinky things, if you like. This girl once again confirmed my idea, that you get most out of Brazilian girls if you treat them well, are funny and you are not boring in the bed. We had known each others 1,5 hours and she asked me for dinner with her and I'm not the best looking guy in town or the best performer in the sack. Just keep the session interesting.[/QUOTE]Good to know. She's on my short list!

Jib Reach.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2140098]I am not interested in fucking porn stars, I just like how they look. Many girls look like porn stars, they are fresher and hotter.

I also like this girl, she is not a porn star, her name is Morena Baccarin. I don't know why, but I am more into Caucasian and Mediterranean looking women.[/QUOTE]There are some porn stars I would love to bang. Take Vanessa Veracruz for example, I'm not sure whether she's of Brazilian heritage but I would willingly spend a week in my hotel room with her.

[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=671342538[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2139124]Just goes to show that just because she's a porn star doesn't mean she's going to be good. You're lucky that she even looked like she does in the movies. Most of those girls are heavily made up, and they just don't look as good in real life. There are definitely some porn stars I would like to have, like Monica Santhiago (see image), but I have never gotten obsessed with having bagged a porn star. It's just that I've been with so many hot girls who were such outstanding performers that they could have been in pictures if they wanted to. And that's good enough for me. You oughta be in pictures: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjRxJxak4qA[/URL] hahaha! On another note, Nordico what happened to your Sampa map man? Please, please, please bring it back![/QUOTE]I drilled two my mate! Both bad, one a disaster. So I refrained from the third just some weeks ago. As you know naive, next door, may be not beauties can be real volcanoes in bed!

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Well its back to Sao Paulo to continue with my project after a carnival break in Rio. However, my list of great sessions both in SP and Rio has been spoiled. Visited Abbobora and chose a garota I had not seen there before. In the room I obaerved that she was spending too much time in the shower and while lying on the bed waiting for her listening to hip hop I mused that could this be my first bad session here in Brazil? She wipes herself and on to the bed. We start off with great DFK at which point I chided myself for my misgivings. Then on to good BBBJ, however, when I moved to returning the favor with DATY she twisted on to her stomach; at that point I went with the flow and kissed and frigged her fine ass. Being in possession of an ample erection I chose to use it at that point, covering up, ascending the derriere and ploughing in doggy. To my dismay I observed that she was holding on to my pecker reducing the trajectory of my thusts. This is a ploy I have found often used by some Asian providers and at FKKs to reduce the impact, but never by Brazilians. Whenever I moved her hand she kept putting it back which was severely curtailing my enjoyment. I then thought I'd go to another position and turned her around and things got worse from there. I was then greeted with the most foul odor resulting in consequential flaccidity. Try as I may after that even with BBBJ my boy refused to ignite whereupon I ended the session.

So my 100% positive experiences here has been marred. After that I trekked across to Miruna where I had a lukewarm session to fruition possibly because of my unenthusiastic frame of mind and the mental image of the smell that remained with me until I fell asleep that night. Fortunately for me such negative experiences have been very minimal in my hobbying life. I have been sampling only the clinicas in SP, mainly Abbobora, Miruna, Tangara and Enjoy. I have observed alot of pre booking especially at Enjoy where I get a lineup of no more than 5 girls with all the hotter ones being lapped up by blokes who called before hand and upon entering the club headed straigt to the room with girls I would have chosen. The good news about Enjoy though is that the lineup always has girls I would not have seen on my previous visits, so there are always new girls to choose. I am not a repeater and I appreciate this. Tangara gives good enough quality for 150 per hour but I am never presented with more than a dozen girls on each visit although I suspect that there are other girls on site and I don't spend much time there, I visit, choose, session then leave.

Although I don't really like sessioning in my hotel room I think I will try some escorts before I leave. Also, I have never been to any of the clubs here in SP but will probably visit Scandallo only to see the rumored eye candy there but not to session as 600 Reals for the girl together with the entrance and room fees are higher than my limit for sessioning a working girl. I also intend to visit Casarao and will session there for no more than 300 Rs.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2141765]Although I don't really like sessioning in my hotel room I think I will try some escorts before I leave.[/QUOTE]Just curious, is there a reason you don't like hopping in a cab / uber and going to the escort's apartment? Almost all the hot SP escorts operate in the general area from Jardins to Moema. While many of the girl's have simple tastes in furnishings, I've usually found things orderly and clean. I've taken showers with and without the girl. They've had clean towels on hand. It seems that when you go to their place they are very comfortable and not as rushed. Many will let the time run over a bit.

The Love motels seem like an unnecessary expense, but you should try them once or twice because some of them can be a blast.

[QUOTE=JibReach;2140302]Good to know. She's on my short list!

Jib Reach.[/QUOTE]I had another session with her. I like her and the session was good. I'm more in to parties of many hours with girls and domination and dominatrixes are not my thing, but I got a feeling that even if she likes dominating men, she may not be very capable, if somebody's looking for a professional dominatrix.

This lady just left my hotel room [URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/danigaucha_?lang=en[/URL] I found her on Twitter and contacted her by WhatsApp. She is really tall, at least 1,75, could be even more, and I found that interesting. I have never fucked a girl that tall.

In a scale from 1-10 I would give her.

Face 7 Just normal face.

Tits 9 Beautiful, operated, just like in the photos.

Body 7-8 Little bit of gym would do her good.

BJ 7-8 Wet BBBJ no CIM.

Sex 7 It was sex I would expect from a girl next door in my country, not in Brazil.

Anal Yes, but I didn't try.

Languages spoken, Portuguese, English, Spanish. She speaks surprisingly good English for a Brazilian. We could easily maintain a conversation in English.

It was kind of a girl next door experience, which I liked for a change, but tonight or tomorrow latest I'm going to be back in my sex party mode. Not going to repeat.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2141770]Just curious, is there a reason you don't like hopping in a cab / uber and going to the escort's apartment? Almost all the hot SP escorts operate in the general area from Jardins to Moema. While many of the girl's have simple tastes in furnishings, I've usually found things orderly and clean. I've taken showers with and without the girl. They've had clean towels on hand. It seems that when you go to their place they are very comfortable and not as rushed. Many will let the time run over a bit.

The Love motels seem like an unnecessary expense, but you should try them once or twice because some of them can be a blast.[/QUOTE]I have often contemplated doing this in the UK where it is the primary form of p4p but have never bitten. It appears to me to be the most risky form of mongering. To whom do you complain if you get really bad service or no service at all? The lurking boyfriend? I know that there are available reviews for perusal prior to sampling and perhaps Brazil is the best location to indulge but there are just too many other options here for me to partake. If I'm in my hotel room I have the upper hand, at her place, she does. There are risks even in my hotel room and also at a love motel but the girl's place is the most risky. In this business I choose the most cautious approach.

Sauntered across to Enjoy this afternoon. Pickings were pretty slim; about 10 guys sitting around and a presentation of 4 girls. Immediately chose a carioca, can never go wrong with a carioca.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2142123]Sauntered across to Enjoy this afternoon. Pickings were pretty slim; about 10 guys sitting around and a presentation of 4 girls. Immediately chose a carioca, can never go wrong with a carioca.[/QUOTE]There were maybe 7 girls presented to me, including Carioca, when I was there around midday. Made my decision between her and Beatriz, with whom I finally went. The lady in the reception was really unfriendly. I felt like she didn’t want me there. Possibly going to Casarao tonight.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2142138]There were maybe 7 girls presented to me, including Carioca, when I was there around midday. Made my decision between her and Beatriz, with whom I finally went. The lady in the reception was really unfriendly. I felt like she didnt want me there. Possibly going to Casarao tonight.[/QUOTE]I always figured that there are more available girls at clinicas earlier but can never make it before 4. 00 pm which I'm assuming is the worst time possible as the after work crowd would get there around that time. When I asked Carioca what part of Brazil she was from she was like "Duh. ". Beatriz is the only provider who was there in all my visits to Enjoy but I havn't sampled yet. How was she? No need to answer that, I know, they're all good, BBBJ, DFK, the works. Regarding the lady at the reception, okay, its not just me. She reminds me of German receptionists at FKKs. Brazilian mongers are really chummy with her though. I suppose after dozens of visits she will become more friendly. She has already started to warm up to me.

I've RTFF while planning my first ever Brazil trip. TheCane's TR from 2016 was very useful information, so I decided to give back as his tastes and style are somewhat similar to mine. I had a tough time deciding between Rio or SP and I know there was an extensive and informative discussion here between the 2 spots. I had already booked my SP trip long before those discussions appeared on the forum.

I'm here for 10 days and I'm on day 4. I'm in my 30's and of Asian descent. I can speak fluent Spanish, but my Portuguese is weak even though I am getting by. I'm more of a nightclub party type of guy, so I spent a lot of my time in boates. I did, however, check out a few clinicas during the day. My experiences so far have been on the mid to higher end side. So here we go..

LODGING- I booked an Airbnb aparthotel that was girl friendly with 24 HR front desk service in the Jardim area. It is a very safe and economical place. Funny thing, while I checked in around 1 pm I saw a slim morena in an elegant dress come down and get a chubby dude from the lobby. I'm assuming she's using a room for incall service. And then I saw another cute ass white skinned half Japanese / Brazilian chick in the elevator with a big booty. Man welcome to Sampa! My dumbass should have asked for her number, I sorta froze when she gave me a seductive look. Hope I run into her again.

PHONE SERVICE- I went to a mall to buy sim card (TIM) for 35 R which gave me 1 GB data, which I used mostly for whatsapp and Uber. BTW, Uber is great! Very cheap and convenient. You can even order Uber at the airport through their wifi, just make sure you go to Departure area to be picked up, not Arrival since that's where the taxis are at.

MONEY EXCHANGE- I used my Charles Schwabb debit card, which refunds any international ATM fees and they do not charge any themselves. I took out $1000 R at a time, and lately they have been spitting me $20 R notes, I'm like C'MON Man. My wallet is stacked like racks on racks LOL.

NIGHTCLUBS- I had to start my first night out with a bang, so I went straight to Scandallo around 6:30 pm. It's $150 R before 7 pm, all consumable and I think $220 R after 7 pm. I already knew what to expect after what's been said here. I even checked out their marketing video online. It's definitely very fancy and service oriented. I was early, so the girl selection was not great yet. I grabbed a drink and some food. I roamed around and decided to chill in the outdoor seating area. I had a few girls walk by and touch me, but I was being patient. Finally, I saw a nice branca named Monique with a fine thick ass and bulging tits. Talked to her with my PortuSpangLish, she was down for kissing, BBBJ, and photos. Damage was $600 R plus $200 for the room for an HR. I didn't really negotiate, which I should have. Rookie mistake. She had a long tongue and I made her put it to work, she'll shove it down my throat and then suck me nice and slow. She made me just want the BJ haha. I did her in a few positions and tapped that big ol ass in such a small frame. She also had that bikini tan that was very sexy.

Then I went back down and saw a few more hotties. I was drained so, I left around 11 pm and decided it's too early to call it a night. I went to Casarao right after. It's nice to see the different price points available in SP. It was $40 are to enter with $20 R consumable I think. Girls of all colors, shapes, and sizes. It was definitely a couple notches down in quality from Scandallo, but with the pricing that was expected. I didn't take anyone, but was quoted for $300 R and $150 for room or take out fee, I think. I was already half drunk, so don't remember the exact prices. I chatted up with a few girls that wanted some Asian dick, but I decided to chill and buy drinks. Girl drinks can get pricey and your bill can rack up like it did to me. Most establishments give you a plastic card that you use to buy drinks / food and you pay the balance when you leave the place. I saw my bill and I was like I got fucked without fucking anybody here LOL. I was ordering whisky shots like it was water haha. I left Casarao round 5:30 am. Total damage that night was sick. Maybe $1600 R or around $500 USD for 11 hrs of non-stop party. I went to Bomboa 222 and Caf Photo my 2nd and 3rd nights, if you guys want a report on those places let me know. Man, I'm making it rain Reis in Sampa haha.

CLINICAS- The first one I went to was Miruna. It was pretty slow and they had like 5 girls and only 1 doable. I walked to Abbodora and found a bigger and better selection. I didn't realize lots of girls here are tatted up, which doesn't bother me since I have a sleeve tattoo. But I can see how some guys will be turned off by tats on arms, legs, chests, etc. I went with a tatted up branca, which was an OK session. Nothing spectacular except for a big booty that I couldn't resist pounding until I had no energy left to pound LOL. She wore me out. Damage was $150 R and $110 R for room. She did give me an actual massage after the deed. I also checked out Tangara, which is talked about a lot here. Unfortunately, that place was not my cup of tea. There were lots of girls, of all shapes and sizes, more than I could count, but the quality was not there. I was spoiled after going after Scandallo / Bomboa / Caf Foto girls. Of course, the price points are dramatically different and that may or may not justify the discrepancy in quality. I headed to Red Massagem afterward and picked a morena with the biggest natural bunda I have ever seen. I had to take a Viagra pill to prepare for what was to come. Her ass was out of this world, like Jupiterian, not from Earth. I will attach pics later.

It's Sunday, so lots of places are closed, but good thing I have a couple Scandallo prospects secured for dinner dates. Sampa muito bom!

Here are some the pics. The big booty girl from Red Massagem.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2142816]I've RTFF while planning my first ever Brazil trip. TheCane's TR from 2016 was very useful information, so I decided to give back as his tastes and style are somewhat similar to mine. I had to start my first night out with a bang, so I went straight to Scandallo around 6:30 pm. It's $150 are before 7 pm, all consumable and I think $220 are after 7 pm. I already knew what to expect after what's been said here. I even checked out their marketing video online. It's definitely very fancy and service oriented. I was early, so the girl selection was not great yet. I grabbed a drink and some food. I roamed around and decided to chill in the outdoor seating area. I had a few girls walk by and touch me, but I was being patient. Finally, I saw a nice branca named Monique with a fine thick ass and bulging tits. Talked to her with my PortuSpangLish, she was down for kissing, BBBJ, and photos. I went to Bomboa 222 and Caf Photo my 2nd and 3rd nights, if you guys want a report on those places let me know. Man, I'm making it rain Reis in Sampa haha. It's Sunday, so lots of places are closed, but good thing I have a couple Scandallo prospects secured for dinner dates. Sampa muito bom![/QUOTE]Hi RR,

Glad to see you are enjoying your "virgin" voyage to Brazil! You'll never be the same man again LOL! I for one would be interested in reading about your experiences at Bomboa and Cafe Photo. I liked those places and had some good experiences in them. I also took note that you managed to get pictures while at Scandallo. What device did you use to take pics, and how did you get it into the club? I ask because on my first visit ever to Scandallo, I had a camera with me, but they confiscated that at the door during the search, and gave it back to me upon my departure. I wonder if they would let a smart phone in? Anyway, I'm interested in hearing more about that plus about all of the nightclubs you may have visited. Because you roll how I roll hommes! LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2140329]There are some porn stars I would love to bang. Take Vanessa Veracruz for example, I'm not sure whether she's of Brazilian heritage but I would willingly spend a week in my hotel room with her.

[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=671342538[/URL][/QUOTE]She is a Mexican American. Maybe she is from Guadalajara. The only Mexican stunner are found in Guadalajara. Most are of European heritage.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2142816]I've RTFF while planning my first ever Brazil trip. TheCane's TR from 2016 was very useful information, so I decided to give back as his tastes and style are somewhat similar to mine. I had a tough time deciding between Rio or SP and I know there was an extensive and informative discussion here between the 2 spots. I had already booked my SP trip long before those discussions appeared on the forum.

I'm here for 10 days and I'm on day 4. I'm in my 30's and of Asian descent. I can speak fluent Spanish, but my Portuguese is weak even though I am getting by. I'm more of a nightclub party type of guy, so I spent a lot of my time in boates. I did, however, check out a few clinicas during the day. My experiences so far have been on the mid to higher end side. So here we go..

LODGING- I booked an Airbnb aparthotel that was girl friendly with 24 HR front desk service in the Jardim area. It is a very safe and economical place. Funny thing, while I checked in around 1 pm I saw a slim morena in an elegant dress come down and get a chubby dude from the lobby. I'm assuming she's using a room for incall service. And then I saw another cute ass white skinned half Japanese / Brazilian chick in the elevator with a big booty. Man welcome to Sampa! My dumbass should have asked for her number, I sorta froze when she gave me a seductive look. Hope I run into her again.

PHONE SERVICE- I went to a mall to buy sim card (TIM) for 35 R which gave me 1 GB data, which I used mostly for whatsapp and Uber. BTW, Uber is great! Very cheap and convenient. You can even order Uber at the airport through their wifi, just make sure you go to Departure area to be picked up, not Arrival since that's where the taxis are at.

MONEY EXCHANGE- I used my Charles Schwabb debit card, which refunds any international ATM fees and they do not charge any themselves. I took out $1000 R at a time, and lately they have been spitting me $20 R notes, I'm like C'MON Man. My wallet is stacked like racks on racks LOL.

NIGHTCLUBS- I had to start my first night out with a bang, so I went straight to Scandallo around 6:30 pm. It's $150 R before 7 pm, all consumable and I think $220 R after 7 pm. I already knew what to expect after what's been said here. I even checked out their marketing video online. It's definitely very fancy and service oriented. I was early, so the girl selection was not great yet. I grabbed a drink and some food. I roamed around and decided to chill in the outdoor seating area. I had a few girls walk by and touch me, but I was being patient. Finally, I saw a nice branca named Monique with a fine thick ass and bulging tits. Talked to her with my PortuSpangLish, she was down for kissing, BBBJ, and photos. Damage was $600 R plus $200 for the room for an HR. I didn't really negotiate, which I should have. Rookie mistake. She had a long tongue and I made her put it to work, she'll shove it down my throat and then suck me nice and slow. She made me just want the BJ haha. I did her in a few positions and tapped that big ol ass in such a small frame. She also had that bikini tan that was very sexy.

Then I went back down and saw a few more hotties. I was drained so, I left around 11 pm and decided it's too early to call it a night. I went to Casarao right after. It's nice to see the different price points available in SP. It was $40 are to enter with $20 R consumable I think. Girls of all colors, shapes, and sizes. It was definitely a couple notches down in quality from Scandallo, but with the pricing that was expected. I didn't take anyone, but was quoted for $300 R and $150 for room or take out fee, I think. I was already half drunk, so don't remember the exact prices. I chatted up with a few girls that wanted some Asian dick, but I decided to chill and buy drinks. Girl drinks can get pricey and your bill can rack up like it did to me. Most establishments give you a plastic card that you use to buy drinks / food and you pay the balance when you leave the place. I saw my bill and I was like I got fucked without fucking anybody here LOL. I was ordering whisky shots like it was water haha. I left Casarao round 5:30 am. Total damage that night was sick. Maybe $1600 R or around $500 USD for 11 hrs of non-stop party. I went to Bomboa 222 and Caf Photo my 2nd and 3rd nights, if you guys want a report on those places let me know. Man, I'm making it rain Reis in Sampa haha.

CLINICAS- The first one I went to was Miruna. It was pretty slow and they had like 5 girls and only 1 doable. I walked to Abbodora and found a bigger and better selection. I didn't realize lots of girls here are tatted up, which doesn't bother me since I have a sleeve tattoo. But I can see how some guys will be turned off by tats on arms, legs, chests, etc. I went with a tatted up branca, which was an OK session. Nothing spectacular except for a big booty that I couldn't resist pounding until I had no energy left to pound LOL. She wore me out. Damage was $150 R and $110 R for room. She did give me an actual massage after the deed. I also checked out Tangara, which is talked about a lot here. Unfortunately, that place was not my cup of tea. There were lots of girls, of all shapes and sizes, more than I could count, but the quality was not there. I was spoiled after going after Scandallo / Bomboa / Caf Foto girls. Of course, the price points are dramatically different and that may or may not justify the discrepancy in quality. I headed to Red Massagem afterward and picked a morena with the biggest natural bunda I have ever seen. I had to take a Viagra pill to prepare for what was to come. Her ass was out of this world, like Jupiterian, not from Earth. I will attach pics later.

It's Sunday, so lots of places are closed, but good thing I have a couple Scandallo prospects secured for dinner dates. Sampa muito bom![/QUOTE]Great report. Thank you. How would compare quality of gartotas between Scandallo and Photo and Bomboa?

To put this into context, I've been told that this past weekend has been slow for the boates due to the tail end of the Carnival. So not as many customers and a smaller selection of girls compared to a typical SP weekend.

BOMBOA: I checked it out the night after my Scandallo / Casarao party fest. It was 250 $ are entrance fee, which was all consumable. By far the most expensive to enter, but it had a very upscale atmosphere with a live band playing. Unfortunately, for a Friday night it was pretty much dead. I got there around 10 pm and there were literally 3 tables of costumers including myself. I was like damn, how am I going to use up my $250 are since I already ate and drank my liver out the night before. The garotas were barely a notch below Scandallo, there were much fewer in number and slightly lesser in quality. But it was my lucky night as I found a girl I actually met in Scandallo. She works both spots LOL. Branca with big fake tits and nice fine tune booty. I chatted up with her as I tried to spend $250 are, downed 5 Caiparinhas in about an hour and a half at $50 are a piece. Negotiated an all nighter with her for $800 are and a $150 are take out fee. Told her let's go bar hopping and chill, then to my apartment. She was down as it was very unlikely she'll get any takers that night. She took me out to Vila Madalena for their bar scene. Very nice area. Funny how she had on a hooker dress that showed her big ol cleavage and nice tanned legs. And I told her I can't get caught up with you in that outside. She said she had on normal clothes to change and I thought she would do that right away. Nope, she comes out with same outfit. She decides to change inside our uber ride, literally got butt naked in the back seat. The driver was using his peripherals very discreetly and I tapped him on the shoulder and just told him to turn around and enjoy the view LOL. Because I know was.

We hit up a couple bars in Vila Madalena area like a normal date. Lots of hot civvies were in full force that night, too bad I don't have the language skills down or the time or the necessary social connections to pursue the non pro route. I was just enjoying the company of a hot garota while checking out many other hotties at the bars. Back to the apt and she gave me a great BBBJ and did multiple positions, I drank a little too much so I was not up to it haha. I finished in her mouth and called it a night. She woke up and I was dying, almost wanted to throw up. So I wasn't able to do a morning bang even though she was up for it.

Got to get ready for my dinner date. Cafe Foto review tomorrow. If anyone in Sampa area and wants to meet up this week, PM me!

One of the downsides for me about boites is the late hour and access to alcohol. I've lost days of good mongering time just because I was too hung over. This rises the question: can the consumable be used to buy a drink for a chica?

Great report tho. Can't wait to hear about foto.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2143009]To put this into context, I've been told that this past weekend has been slow for the boates due to the tail end of the Carnival. So not as many customers and a smaller selection of girls compared to a typical SP weekend.

BOMBOA: I checked it out the night after my Scandallo / Casarao party fest. It was 250 $ are entrance fee, which was all consumable. By far the most expensive to enter, but it had a very upscale atmosphere with a live band playing. Unfortunately I chatted up with her as I tried to spend $250 are, downed 5 Caiparinhas in about an hour and a half at $50 are a piece. Negotiated an all nighter with her for $800 are and a $150 are take out fee. Told her let's go bar hopping and chill, then to my apartment. She was down as it was very unlikely she'll get any takers that night. She took me out to Vila Madalena for their bar scene. Very nice area. Funny how she had on a hooker dress that showed her big ol cleavage and nice tanned legs. And I told her I can't get caught up with you in that outside. She said she had on normal clothes to change and I thought she would do that right away. Nope, she comes out with same outfit. She decides to change inside our uber ride, literally got butt naked in the back seat. The driver was using his peripherals very discreetly and I tapped him on the shoulder and just told him to turn around and enjoy the view LOL.
She woke up and I was dying, almost wanted to throw up. So I wasn't able to do a morning bang even though she was up for it.

Got to get ready for my dinner date. Cafe Foto review tomorrow. If anyone in Sampa area and wants to meet up this week, PM me![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2143115]One of the downsides for me about boites is the late hour and access to alcohol. I've lost days of good mongering time just because I was too hung over. This rises the question: can the consumable be used to buy a drink for a chica?

Great report tho. Can't wait to hear about foto.[/QUOTE]Absolutely.

I have read here and there in this thread (this thread is pretty big) and in some posts there is a link to a google map, but the link seems dead. Is there a newer link that works? I am mostly interested in finding low-costs establishments (I believe they are called prives).

I understand that the clinicas charge per hour. How many pops are typically allowed during that hour? Is it possible to find short term (15-30 minutes, 1 pop) for a lower price somewhere in Sao Paulo?

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2143408]I understand that the clinicas charge per hour. How many pops are typically allowed during that hour? Is it possible to find short term (15-30 minutes, 1 pop) for a lower price somewhere in Sao Paulo?[/QUOTE]The Clinica prices are for 30 and 60 minutes. What happens is that 30 minutes costs around 160 and 60 minutes are around 200, so not much price difference. You can find the 15 minute pricing at trash houses. There are couple of those in the map. Be careful.

I would never accept any pop limit from the girl. What I'm doing is renting her body and company for certain amount of time. But in a rare case it happens also to the locals. It's never my problem, because I'm more like 6 hours and 1 pop. I found one great lady on Twitter yesterday. She came to my hotel at 3 pm. She had this really strange pricing; 1 hour 300 and 4 hours 500. We couldn't play music loud enough in my room, because the walls are really thin in the Mercure Times Square and had to smoke outside, so we decided go to a motel [URL]http://www.motelmyflowers.com.br[/URL] Her friend came to the motel at 9 pm, but I kicked her out 1 hour later, because she didn't do anything else during that hour but empty the minibar from chocolate and drinks. I heard her planning next going after champagne and whisky, so she had to go. Well, we were in the motel with my Twitter friend until 4 am and went back to my hotel to rest. We woke up at 8. 30 am to go for breakfast. We must have looked like a real mess. Went back to bed. Slept few hours. Went to have few beers in a bar. Had a couple of policemen follow us to a supermarket, because my friend smoked a joint in the street. After that went back to my hotel to fuck and things. She left at 5 pm to go to work at Tivoli. She wanted to have a party again at 4 am tomorrow morning. Hell no, I have my flight tomorrow after midday.
She keeps sending me photos like the third one to get my attention. She is one of the best the performers I have had in my whole mongering life. She really wanted to please me. She must have fought 10 minutes to get that dildo in her ass, when I said that there is no way she can do it. Lol.

The price for a room in Casarao is BRL 40, for 40 minutes. Always be clear if the price she quotes includes the room. Misunderstandings can ruin the atmosphere. I fucked two girls in Casarao. Both charged me 250 including the room. That's on the lower side and there are girls who don't budge from 350 plus the room, even for local guys.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2143453]You can find the 15 minute pricing at trash houses. There are couple of those in the map. Be careful.[/QUOTE]Could you please name them?

What about streetwalkers, are there any that you can have quickie with in a park, abandoned buildings, etc?

CAFE FOTO: I was here last weekend. $150 consumable. Another high end boite with an upscale ambiance and great looking girls. But unfortunately, it being the end of the carnival, the place was dead. I got there a little early around 10:00 pm, the place opens at 9 pm. There were some hotties, but there was no party atmosphere at all. If I wanted to do a quick fuck, I would just go to clinica. So to kill time and see if the place would get popping, I had a few drinks and some food. 2 hours passed, and few more guys and girls showed up. But still nothing like the Scandallo party scene. I left and went to Casarao. It was cockfest there, lots of girls yes, but way more dudes. It was a bad ratio and selection was slim. Called it a night.

UBERPOOL HOOKUP: One night on my way to Bomboa using uberpool, the driver picked up a fine ass girl from an apt complex. I sat in front and she in the back. I was like damn, I need to uberpool more often if girls that hot are getting picked up. I started chatting with her using my limited Portuguese. I told her straight up I'm going to Bomboa to look for the best looking girls in SP and then she said I should go to Scandallo instead. Told her I went there already, then she said she works at Scandallo! I was damn, what a coincidence. Uberpool becoming Ubertinder. I got her number and then hit her up on a Sunday for dinner date. Negotiated for $500, but said she lives far and would need me to pay for uber. I said your apt complex didn't seem far, then she responded by that's not where I live, it's where she went to meet a client LOL. I said no problem assuming she's at most 30-40 minutes away. Come to find out, she lives an hour away! She commutes with her friend to Scandallo to cover the transportation costs. I wasn't going to back out, and the fare was around $75. She shows up on time to my apt looking stunning with a tight dress that accentuates her natural curves along with some high heels. She had a very exotic face, her dad is Arabic and mom is Italian. I was like damn, genes came out fine.

We had dinner, drinks, partied up from 8 pm through midnight. That girl can move her hips like a hip hop dancer, dudes were literally staring at her face & body. I was the luckiest guy that night. You know a girl is hot when she passes by a group of dudes, and all of them turn and look at her at the same time LOL. I saw that happen multiple times. We were pounding tequila shots, making out like a teenage couple, eye fucking each other. Uberpool came through! I got the bill and waiter straight up said you are a lucky SOB haha. Got back to my apt and we had some wild sex that started in the shower. She started sucking me off real good, licking my balls, shoving my dick down her throat as the warm water was pouring down over our bodies. We were both pretty drunk and I decided to go for it right there and then. Raw dog style. She was scared for a second, but then relented to my wild desires. I tried to last as long as I could and eventually came in her mouth with a fat load. We rested for a while and then ordered her uber at around 2 am. Best night so far in Sampa!

SCANDALLO: I'm pretty much addicted to this place. Forget Bomboa, Cafe Foto, or any other high end boite. This place is lit. Mind you, it will hurt your pocket book. I've been here 3 out of 6 nights so far and each night it just gets better and better. Funny thing was the uber girl works the next night at Scandallo, so I told her I'll be there too. It was a mistaked because I inadvertently wifed myself up with her. She came with her friend who actually has a car and drove the hour commute. I chatted up with them, but wanted to check out other girls. But they gave me an offer I couldn't refuse. I didn't want to pay the room fee or take out fee. They told me we can meet outside of the club and she'll drive us to go drinking and partying and an eventual 3 some. I was like don't you have to stay and work because it was only 11 pm and they were there for only an hour. They said no problem, they'll make up something. We separate, I walk out and wait for them in the corner. Her friend comes rolling up in her car and told me to get my ass in! I'm being kidnapped by 2 Brazilian hotties! By the way, I negotiated for $500 for each girl. I'm thinking I'm saving $200 for not using the Scandallo room and lots more money by drinking at a local bar than at Scandallo. I was also searching real hard for some "padre", which is slang for a famous Colombian export product if you get my drift. She had a connection, so I took it. I knew it was about to be a crazy night. We hit up a few bars, both girls were getting buzzed, and then I realized somebody has to drive us back to my apt! Neither of them could drive, so I sobered up thinking I ain't letting the girl drive because she was swerving while sober, imagine being drunk. I took her keys and got use to the car's crappy clutch and thinking to myself, what the hell did I get myself into. Back to apt around 3 am and we kept the party going so hard and loud, hotel security had to warn us twice. Said a third time they calling the police haha. We toned down real quick. Unfortunately, one girl got too drunk and had to go throw up while I was fucking the other girl. She came back to give me double BBBJ, but then mid way had to throw up again LOL. Eventually we knocked out in bed and I don't even remember all the details. Back to Scandallo tonight!

[QUOTE=Nordico;2143460]The price for a room in Casarao is BRL 40, for 40 minutes. Always be clear if the price she quotes includes the room. Misunderstandings can ruin the atmosphere. I fucked two girls in Casarao. Both charged me 250 including the room. That's on the lower side and there are girls who don't budge from 350 plus the room, even for local guys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! I was too drunk to figure out what price was for what haha. Do you know what is the take out fee for a Casarao girl?

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2143408]I understand that the clinicas charge per hour. How many pops are typically allowed during that hour? Is it possible to find short term (15-30 minutes, 1 pop) for a lower price somewhere in Sao Paulo?[/QUOTE]Clinicas charge per 30 min too. At least Miruna, Chanes, Enjoy, Brooklin.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2142375]I always figured that there are more available girls at clinicas earlier but can never make it before 4. 00 pm which I'm assuming is the worst time possible as the after work crowd would get there around that time. When I asked Carioca what part of Brazil she was from she was like "Duh. ". Beatriz is the only provider who was there in all my visits to Enjoy but I havn't sampled yet. How was she? No need to answer that, I know, they're all good, BBBJ, DFK, the works. Regarding the lady at the reception, okay, its not just me. She reminds me of German receptionists at FKKs. Brazilian mongers are really chummy with her though. I suppose after dozens of visits she will become more friendly. She has already started to warm up to me.[/QUOTE]Beatriz is very good. Have not tried Carioca. Those I like there are Melinda, Nicole, Paloma. Receptionist are friendly, at least with me, always. With a girl, either you have a mutual sympathy or not, it always affiliates.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2142825]Hi RR,

Glad to see you are enjoying your "virgin" voyage to Brazil! You'll never be the same man again LOL! I for one would be interested in reading about your experiences at Bomboa and Cafe Photo. I liked those places and had some good experiences in them. I also took note that you managed to get pictures while at Scandallo. What device did you use to take pics, and how did you get it into the club? I ask because on my first visit ever to Scandallo, I had a camera with me, but they confiscated that at the door during the search, and gave it back to me upon my departure. I wonder if they would let a smart phone in? Anyway, I'm interested in hearing more about that plus about all of the nightclubs you may have visited. Because you roll how I roll hommes! LOL![/QUOTE]All the boites I've been to allowed my smart phones in (I bring 2, one personal, one business). I usually grab my phones out of my pocket and hold them up in air while they search me. I use my cell phone inside no problem. I bet if you just hold your camera out before they search you, you'll be good. Now I'm going to try to take some ninja pics of the boites to show my buddies back in the states, but they already satisfied with my personal pics I take of the girls in the room. Naked pics always better than normal pics!

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2144235]CAFE FOTO: I was here last weekend. $150 consumable. Another high end boite with an upscale ambiance and great looking girls. But unfortunately, it being the end of the carnival, the place was dead. I got there a little early around 10:00 pm, the place opens at 9 pm. There were some hotties, but there was no party atmosphere at all. If I wanted to do a quick fuck, I would just go to clinica. So to kill time and see if the place would get popping, I had a few drinks and some food. 2 hours passed, and few more guys and girls showed up. But still nothing like the Scandallo party scene. I left and went to Casarao. It was cockfest there, lots of girls yes, but way more dudes. It was a bad ratio and selection was slim. Called it a night.

UBERPOOL HOOKUP: One night on my way to Bomboa using uberpool, the driver picked up a fine ass girl from an apt complex. I sat in front and she in the back. I was like damn, I need to uberpool more often if girls that hot are getting picked up. I started chatting with her using my limited Portuguese. I told her straight up I'm going to Bomboa to look for the best looking girls in SP and then she said I should go to Scandallo instead. Told her I went there already, then she said she works at Scandallo! I was damn, what a coincidence. Uberpool becoming Ubertinder.[/QUOTE]Seems you are having a blast. When do you leave? I arrive next week.

I like to get numbers and have them over another day or night. I've paid 250-500 R for three hours to all night.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2144236]Thanks for the info! I was too drunk to figure out what price was for what haha. Do you know what is the take out fee for a Casarao girl?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2144195]What about streetwalkers, are there any that you can have quickie with in a park, abandoned buildings, etc?[/QUOTE]Suicidal or just louco?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2144336]Suicidal or just louco?[/QUOTE]I guess SP offers both the best of the best and worst of the worst. I'm always in the former.

[QUOTE=TomsDucati;2144305]Seems you are having a blast. When do you leave? I arrive next week.[/QUOTE]I leave on Sunday. Have fun when you get here bro.

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2144195]Could you please name them?

What about streetwalkers, are there any that you can have quickie with in a park, abandoned buildings, etc?[/QUOTE]I hope you're just trying to be a smartass.

You don't want to be caught with your pants down in Sao Paulo. You'll quickly be relieved of both your wallet and your pants.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2144566]I hope you're just trying to be a smartass.

You don't want to be caught with your pants down in Sao Paulo. You'll quickly be relieved of both your wallet and your pants.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2144336]Suicidal or just louco?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answers. Next time something like "Sao Paulo is not a good city for public sex with prostitutes due to safety concerns" will do. I do have a fetish for public sex, but I will save that for a another city instead.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2144282]Clinicas charge per 30 min too. At least Miruna, Chanes, Enjoy, Brooklin.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. I believe 30 minutes in these clinicas is around 150 reais, if anybody knows any places where I can get a quickie (15-20 minutes) cheaper, then please let me know. I'm the type of guy who would rather have 3-4 quickies a day than 1 one- or two-hour session per day.

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2144592]Thanks for your reply. I believe 30 minutes in these clinicas is around 150 reais, if anybody knows any places where I can get a quickie (15-20 minutes) cheaper, then please let me know. I'm the type of guy who would rather have 3-4 quickies a day than 1 one- or two-hour session per day.[/QUOTE]There is a good report regarding some trash houses from Mr. Ibrahimovic. Check out the post #8411.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2144632]There is a good report regarding some trash houses from Mr. Ibrahimovic. Check out the post #8411.[/QUOTE]Excellent, thanks!

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2144592]Thanks for your answers. Next time something like "Sao Paulo is not a good city for public sex with prostitutes due to safety concerns" will do. I do have a fetish for public sex, but I will save that for a another city instead.

Thanks for your reply. I believe 30 minutes in these clinicas is around 150 reais, if anybody knows any places where I can get a quickie (15-20 minutes) cheaper, then please let me know. I'm the type of guy who would rather have 3-4 quickies a day than 1 one- or two-hour session per day.[/QUOTE]If you would try to, as you suggested, to have a quickie "in a park, abandoned buildings" in São Paulo, it would definitely end bad. Molested by crackudos, mugged, beaten up or get arrested? Maybe if you could convince a GP to go with you to Parque Ibirapuera you could have some public sex.

Regarding cheap sex, in Centro you have Rua Barão de Limeira 134 and Rua dos Andradas 69. All floors in bouth buildings are puteiros. Very cheap but very trashy.

If you want to combine cheap sex and public sex there is a porn cinema in Centro (I can't recall the name). I went there about 12 years ago. A beer cost R$10, included a BJ. I satisfied myself with just the beer as the place was very creepy and the ladies were granny-types.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2144784]If you would try to, as you suggested, to have a quickie "in a park, abandoned buildings" in So Paulo, it would definitely end bad. Molested by crackudos, mugged, beaten up or get arrested? Maybe if you could convince a GP to go with you to Parque Ibirapuera you could have some public sex.....[/QUOTE]I didn't get the impression he was seeking public sex. I thought he was trying to avoid having to pay for accomodation for sex and choose instead a park where he could cavort away from the public gaze, in some bushes or among some trees; didn't any of you guys do that in your younger days?

I've spent 3 straight nights at Scandallo. I practically live there now haha. I decided to give Bomboa another chance last night. I'm sure glad I did! I got there around 10:30 pm and it was poppin'! Lots of hot garotas of all shades, shapes, and sizes. Lots of guys getting bottle services. What a difference a week makes. The waiter remembered me from my first time there when it was deader than dead and told me this is the night to be here. By the way, the pricing at Scandallo changed, it's $250 BRL after 7 pm with $150 consumable and $150 before 7 pm, all consumable. I usually don't get to boites till after 10 pm and stay till 4-5 am. Bomboa is at $250 with all consumable, which is a lot better than Scandallo since I lose that $100 credit when I show up to Scandallo after 7 pm. Good or bad thing is that you can pay for the food / drinks / room / take out fee on credit card. Cash of course to the girl. My credit card bill is getting lit up LOL.

I got a nice slim all natural white skinned garota that's only been in SP for 3 weeks. I decided to take her out for clubbin', paid house fee of $150 and negotiated $500 for her with no set time limit. She was a lot of fun and went drink for drink with me. Man, I don't know why I get girls drunk, it's just the party animal in me. I should tone that down since drunk girl means not hot sex girl. Got 2 more nights here, SP muito bom e legal! My Portuguese finally catching on.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2144853]I didn't get the impression he was seeking public sex. I thought he was trying to avoid having to pay for accomodation for sex and choose instead a park where he could cavort away from the public gaze, in some bushes or among some trees; didn't any of you guys do that in your younger days?[/QUOTE]I guess you missed his follow on post, LOL.

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2144592]... "Sao Paulo is not a good city for public sex with prostitutes due to safety concerns" will do. I do have a fetish for public sex, but I will save that for a another city instead.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2145033]I guess you missed his follow on post, LOL.[/QUOTE]I see you did not get his sarcasm.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145060]I see you did not get his sarcasm.[/QUOTE]I must be slow, I re-read and still don't see the sarcasm, just a dude that likes public sex, LOL.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2145021]I got a nice slim all natural white skinned garota that's only been in SP for 3 weeks. I decided to take her out for clubbin', paid house fee of $150 and negotiated $500 for her with no set time limit. She was a lot of fun and went drink for drink with me. Man, I don't know why I get girls drunk, it's just the party animal in me. I should tone that down since drunk girl means not hot sex girl. Got 2 more nights here, SP muito bom e legal! My Portuguese finally catching on.[/QUOTE]Yeah man, you need to ease up off that got damn alcohol LOL! The one tute I took out of Bomboa (blonde branca) was already tipsy, and we stopped to pick up a bottle on the way to the hotel. I fucked her drunk ass, but like you say, it wasn't the greatest. Ease up off the happy water man! Ease up! And you may be joking around now, but when you get that credit card bill? Not going to be funny hommes LOL! The cards cost you more all the way around. Especially if somebody "skim scams" your shit. Happens in Brazil. Why I stick to cash. Hope it doesn't happen to you, but you better check the charges carefully!

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2145021]I've spent 3 straight nights at Scandallo. I practically live there now haha. I decided to give Bomboa another chance last night. I'm sure glad I did! I got there around 10:30 pm and it was poppin'! Lots of hot garotas of all shades, shapes, and sizes. Lots of guys getting bottle services. What a difference a week makes. The waiter remembered me from my first time there when it was deader than dead and told me this is the night to be here. By the way, the pricing at Scandallo changed, it's $250 BRL after 7 pm with $150 consumable and $150 before 7 pm, all consumable. I usually don't get to boites till after 10 pm and stay till 4-5 am. Bomboa is at $250 with all consumable, which is a lot better than Scandallo since I lose that $100 credit when I show up to Scandallo after 7 pm. Good or bad thing is that you can pay for the food / drinks / room / take out fee on credit card. Cash of course to the girl. My credit card bill is getting lit up LOL.

I got a nice slim all natural white skinned garota that's only been in SP for 3 weeks. I decided to take her out for clubbin', paid house fee of $150 and negotiated $500 for her with no set time limit. She was a lot of fun and went drink for drink with me. Man, I don't know why I get girls drunk, it's just the party animal in me. I should tone that down since drunk girl means not hot sex girl. Got 2 more nights here, SP muito bom e legal! My Portuguese finally catching on.[/QUOTE]Which night were you at Bomboa? Wed? Thursday? Those are usually the busy nights. Over 100 girls?

When Bomboa is dead, its really dead. When its banging its actually better than Scandalo imo for atmosphere. I can't speak to the quality of girls be / see I have not been to either place in months. But traditionally, they draw the same girls, Scandalo draws more be / see its larger, but Bomboa with 100-150 girls is also world class. As for atmosphere, I think there is no comparison. Scandalo is so dark you need a miner's helmet lamp to see the girls clearly. And you have to walk around a lot to ensure that you are seeing all the choices. You can't park and let the girls come to you. Bomboa is well lit, has better music, and the girls circulate, so that you can sit comfortably and be assured that you have seen all of them saunter by. The trick is going to Bomboa when it is banging and not dead. For whatever reason the fall off at Bomboa is more extreme on the off nights.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2145068]I must be slow, I re-read and still don't see the sarcasm, just a dude that likes public sex, LOL.[/QUOTE]He starts off with "Thanks for your answers. Next time something like "Sao Paulo is not a good city for public sex with prostitutes due to safety concerns" will do. " This was in response to him being attacked for wanting public sex where he originally made no mention of wanting public sex. His original post was about a quickie in a park. He was playing with y'all. Again, did you guys ever have youthful days where you had a quickie in a park away from the gaze of prying eyes?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145247]He starts off with "Thanks for your answers. Next time something like "Sao Paulo is not a good city for public sex with prostitutes due to safety concerns" will do. " This was in response to him being attacked for wanting public sex where he originally made no mention of wanting public sex. His original post was about a quickie in a park. He was playing with y'all. Again, did you guys ever have youthful days where you had a quickie in a park away from the gaze of prying eyes?[/QUOTE]Well, you're definitely much better at reading between the lines than I am, LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2145341]Well, you're definitely much better at reading between the lines than I am, LOL.[/QUOTE]Rocky, I'm just gifted that way, LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145423]Rocky, I'm just gifted that way, LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks Apollo, I see that. Lol

[QUOTE=Balboa;2145473]Thanks Apollo, I see that. Lol[/QUOTE]Ah, watch and learn, Grasshopper.

As part of my sojourn through Sao Paulo clinicas I decided on Friday to revisit Tangara which I'd been neglecting lately. There were initially about a dozen ladies of the trade on offer. I chose Edwarda a 30 something blanca who portended a good session. I always factor into my choice the extent of passion of the initial greeting and hers was ardent. In the room there was no disappointment, an hour well spent. Suspecting that I had not seen all the dames who were on offer at Tangara I decided to wait a while just to see who else may be there.

About half an hour later a young flaca blanca with a pretty face had just completed a session with a very small youthful Asian guy; she was a little shorter than I like them, she was dressed in shorts with a sixties style boots and I decided on the spur of the moment to session her. Her name was Jacky. In the room she was very restrictive, probably the most restrictive Brazilian I have ever encountered. No DFK, no DATY and believe it or not she rolled out the condom for BJ. At that point I realized that completion may not be possible especially considering my session 40 minutes prior. However, managed a semi erection and began pounding in various positions. While doing doggy I thought to myself that I could orgasm but lo and behold she told me 5 minutes more. I told her that I would opt for an hour but from what I gathered from her Portuguese she could not handle a half hour more of action. So an unfulfilled half hour it was.

Upon paying my 100 Rs there was a presentation in progress and I observed a fairly dark skinned mulatta among them whom I had not seen before and I immediately decided to choose her as she was very pretty with a face that could easily pass her off as a woman from the Indian sub-continent. Her name was Kelly. In the room I was a little disappointed by the body but dived right into the session. She allowed and did everything that Jacky refused to do and it was indeed an hour well spent.

So all in all it was 400 Rs and 3 garotas. Money that would not have gotten me one session at Scandallo or Bomboa so I'm still rethinking a visit to those boites. I should mention that of all the clinicas the manageresses at Tangara are the friendliest and I did get to chat up one of them who knew a little English. There were a few other providers who I think deserve honourable mention who I did not session. I can't remember all the names but Jennifer and Lais come to mind. I should revisit Tangara before I leave Sao Paulo.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145601]Ah, watch and learn, Grasshopper.[/QUOTE]I'm sure I could learn from you amigo, and with me speaking fluent Spanish and Portuguese, and living in South America, between Colombia and Brasil, I could most likely show you a thing or two as well.

Though you do have me on reading into one's sarcasm.

I'll give you that! LOL.

Enjoy!

You do seem like a cool guy.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2145738]I'm sure I could learn from you amigo, and with me speaking fluent Spanish and Portuguese, and living in South America, between Colombia and Brasil, I could most likely show you a thing or two as well.

Though you do have me on reading into one's sarcasm.

I'll give you that! LOL.

Enjoy!

You do seem like a cool guy.[/QUOTE]Thanks, looking forward to your reports. Always willing to learn a thing or two as well.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145970]Thanks, looking forward to your reports. Always willing to learn a thing or two as well.[/QUOTE]l'll I've just learned two things.

Rocky Balboa is a good teacher, I recommend him to you.

Checked out Abbobora yesterday and was presented with the biggest line up in a clinica since I've been here this trip. 17 garotas. I hope this is a sign of girls returning from vacation. Solid lineup. Chose a provider who gave me a passionate greeting in the presentation. She was extremely horny and I had some challenges containing her in the room. A fantastic session.

I was there on Thursday night. I've gone to a boite pretty much every night that I was in SP (10 days total). As I remember you saying, Tues-Thurs are the best nights to go and I agree. Sun is closed, Mon is too slow, Fri / Sat can get crowded, but in my case it was actually tamer since Carnaval was ending during my trip. In Scandallo, easily over 100 girls, in Bomboa about 50.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2145238]Which night were you at Bomboa? Wed? Thursday? Those are usually the busy nights. Over 100 girls?

When Bomboa is dead, its really dead. When its banging its actually better than Scandalo imo for atmosphere. I can't speak to the quality of girls be / see I have not been to either place in months. But traditionally, they draw the same girls, Scandalo draws more be / see its larger, but Bomboa with 100-150 girls is also world class. As for atmosphere, I think there is no comparison. Scandalo is so dark you need a miner's helmet lamp to see the girls clearly. And you have to walk around a lot to ensure that you are seeing all the choices. You can't park and let the girls come to you. Bomboa is well lit, has better music, and the girls circulate, so that you can sit comfortably and be assured that you have seen all of them saunter by. The trick is going to Bomboa when it is banging and not dead. For whatever reason the fall off at Bomboa is more extreme on the off nights.[/QUOTE]

Every time I come back from a sexcapade, it usually takes me a few days to adjust and get back to normalcy. This time it's no different. SP has been a great 10 day sexual splurge. I did not hold back in terms of spending and pretty much sampled the best that SP had to offer in terms of the quality and quantity of girls. Having said that, I would probably not go back anytime soon. I've been hitting up Colombia, especially Medellin for a number of years, and in terms of cost and quality, I'll still prefer it over Brazil. SP was great, don't get me wrong, but Colombia still holds the Olympic Gold for me. Brazil gets the Silver. (I have not traveled to Europe, so can't speak about the FKKs, which I know are great from what I've read). If I ever get to master the Portuguese language, then I'll give Brazil a few more rounds.

Back to my last couple nights at SP, for some reason when I find myself enjoying a girl's company and vice versa, we develop a more intimate relation beyond sex. I know all about unnecessary emotional attachments, but I'm a sucker for intimacy LOL. I went back to Bomboa on a Friday night and there were girls I have not seen the night before. Lots of big ass and tits floating around. I see the same girl I took out the night before and we started chatting it up. I try not to do repeats, but she was just all over me and wouldn't let me go haha. I kinda liked that. When she left, she told the waiter to keep an eye on me in a joking way. But damn, there were some hotties that started showing up. For me, I like a good company and not just a girl that wants to get paid and have sex and be done with it. I'll go to a clinica for that type of sex. I pretty much committed myself to her, but I did chat up with other hotties as they were eyeing my body and my wallet. There were a few strip shows that were rather good. Girls got on the strip poles topless dancing seductively. I did notice the strip poles on other nights, but no one danced. This time it was a pleasant surprise. I ate and drank with my girl for a couple hours, just making out, chit chatting, acting like lovers gone wild LOL. I decided to take her out again ($150 house fee) for some partying after I was able to procure some "padre" from her friend. That stuff was Colombian worthy and decently priced. We agreed for overnighter and she was fine with $500 BRL (I think the going rate is $800-$1000 for all night, but we developed a good chemistry). I was paying Scandallo girls $500-600 for an hour session plus $200 for the room, so this is a damn deal! We hung out for damn near 10 hours.

We started hitting up the the-EDGE, which is an EDM club. Even at regular party clubs (at least this one), they have the same system of giving you a plastic card to pay for drinks and entrance fee. Then when you leave, you pay out the balance. Kinda threw me off at first because I was use to that at boites, but not at regular dance clubs. After that, she asked if she can invite a friend to party with us. I said, the more the merrier! We left the club since it wasn't poppin' and we met the friend up at a nearby club called EAZY. She was a tall blonde cutie, too damn tall for me haha. Unfortunately, the hidden weed my girl had on her purse was found out by security, so we had to find another spot. We decided to go to the bars at Vila Madalena. I told the girls I know exactly where we going haha. I was just there few nights ago with another girl. It's refreshing to be out of the boite scene once in a while. Like I said before, downing drinks at a regular bar is much cheaper than at a boite, especially in the company of 2 hotties. I know I should stay my ass away from too much alcohol, but I stay lit all day all night haha. We hung out till about 4 am and the friend is too tired to go home, so asked me if she could stay over my place and rest. I'm like man, that's going to inconvenience me and my girl's sex time. My girl said don't worry, we'll still have great and wild sex LOL.

The friend sleeps on the couch with headphones on haha. My girl and I take a shower and start fucking right away. She goes down on me getting me all nice and hard. We go from the shower to the toilet seat cover as I lay sitting down and she fucking me on top. Then we move to the sink as she has one hand on the damn faucet and another on the edge of the mirror. I pound her from behind fast and hard. She starts screaming and violently shaking the sink. I'm like girl don't break the damn thing because I'll have to pay for it! After that, we move to the door and pound away. I finally relent and bust my load all over her mouth. She takes it all in. It was straight out of a porn film LOL. We shower again and kept drinking, smoking, chit chatting in the balcony till sunrise while the friend is dead asleep. Around 7 am, she and her friend take off and I finally get to sleep haha.

I've checked all my CC charges on a daily basis to make sure there aren't any bogus transactions. One thing, I've never had that many Uber charges before haha. Good thing, it's all under $5 per trip, very cheap indeed! Funny thing, when I paid my Bomboa bill with my card I knew it was going to be around $150 USD. Next day, I see a $160 USD charge on my card for Churrascaria XXX. Then I realize, these boites don't use their company name, I guess they use a restaurant's name. I have no clue, but I thought it was funny.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2145157]Yeah man, you need to ease up off that got damn alcohol LOL! The one tute I took out of Bomboa (blonde branca) was already tipsy, and we stopped to pick up a bottle on the way to the hotel. I fucked her drunk ass, but like you say, it wasn't the greatest. Ease up off the happy water man! Ease up! And you may be joking around now, but when you get that credit card bill? Not going to be funny hommes LOL! The cards cost you more all the way around. Especially if somebody "skim scams" your shit. Happens in Brazil. Why I stick to cash. Hope it doesn't happen to you, but you better check the charges carefully![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2144592]Thanks for your answers. Next time something like "Sao Paulo is not a good city for public sex with prostitutes due to safety concerns" will do. I do have a fetish for public sex, but I will save that for a another city instead.[/QUOTE]I think you missed our point. We are not judging your fetish for public sex. We are questioning your judgment. We would assume people have heard about Sao Paulo's poverty and crime.

Hey fellas,

Are the hotels in SP pretty much girl / guest friendly? I haven't seen any postings, nor has any internet searches come up with anything, so it's safe to assume that I won't get charged for bringing a girl back right? Or have a WG turned away?

TIA.

New place in Vila Mariana, Rua Luís Góis, 820

Monday-Friday 10 AM-10 PM.

Saturday 10 AM-7 PM.

Sunday: Closed.

Very soon another new place will be opened in Moema. I know the address but will not post until it is open.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2146923]Hey fellas,

Are the hotels in SP pretty much girl / guest friendly? I haven't seen any postings, nor has any internet searches come up with anything, so it's safe to assume that I won't get charged for bringing a girl back right? Or have a WG turned away?

TIA.[/QUOTE]Yes they are (at least the places I have stayed in). Only time I have paid for a girl to visit me was over 10 years ago in Novotel.

I just stayed 13 nights in two Mercure hotels in SP and they never even checked the girl's ID. If I was with them, we just walked to the elevator and if they came alone, reception called me if this or that girl can come to my room (without checking her ID again). I expected them to charge me something, when I checked out, but nothing, even if one lady came to my room with a suitcase, stayed more than 24 hours and I had reserved the room for 1 person.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2147170]Yes they are (at least the places I have stayed in). Only time I have paid for a girl to visit me was over 10 years ago in Novotel.

I just stayed 13 nights in two Mercure hotels in SP and they never even checked the girl's ID. If I was with them, we just walked to the elevator and if they came alone, reception called me if this or that girl can come to my room (without checking her ID again). I expected them to charge me something, when I checked out, but nothing, even if one lady came to my room with a suitcase, stayed more than 24 hours and I had reserved the room for 1 person.[/QUOTE]Yes Nordico is 100% correct, Mercure hotels Jardins and another Mercure near to it (both close to Paulista avenue) are totally girl friendly. Multiple girls in night no issue. Happy mongering.

Went to Enjoy Wednesday. The third girl that was presented was a very lovely mulatta. In another country a face and body like that would portend a bad attitude and a poor session; and indeed her greeting of me was cold and I had to ask her to repeat her name. Chose her before I saw the full lineup for fear of her being picked by either of the other two blokes who were there; my luck's like that. She was very young, no older than 22 in my estimation. She's the type of girl I used to fantasize about when I was a teenager with the prettiest face you'd see on a provider.

In the room her disrobing revealed a body I would wank over in the US. Be+ cups but totally firm and a wonderfully shaped derriere. On the bed, immediate DFK for several minutes was followed by BBBJ and DATY. In DATY I had to force my tongue into her vagina, it was so tight and I had some well founded trepidations about FS because I'm not small.

On with the cap and onto FS. Try as I may I could not enter. She was a real trooper and did not shirk from doing her best to facilitate entry. After several minutes I was beginning to flag and began to despair of actual coitus. Removed the condom and requested BBBJ followed by DATY then some DFK got me fully charged again, on with the cover and retrieved my KY which fortunately I always carried with me. Applied copious amounts of lube to myself and in her. I actually still had some difficulty entering but after persistence got the head in in doggy and the sensation got me firmer so as to get me further inside. Eventually got a rhythm going but the tightness together with the vision of that perfect ass and beautiful body made me feel like I was about to come. I did not want to pull out as I feared difficulty in re-entering so I came in much shorter time than I would have liked. Not the best of sessions.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2147594]Went to Enjoy Wednesday. The third girl that was presented was a very lovely mulatta. In another country a face and body like that would portend a bad attitude and a poor session; and indeed her greeting of me was cold and I had to ask her to repeat her name. Chose her before I saw the full lineup for fear of her being picked by either of the other two blokes who were there; my luck's like that. She was very young, no older than 22 in my estimation. She's the type of girl I used to fantasize about when I was a teenager with the prettiest face you'd see on a provider.

In the room her disrobing revealed a body I would wank over in the US. Be+ cups but totally firm and a wonderfully shaped derriere. On the bed, immediate DFK for several minutes was followed by BBBJ and DATY. In DATY I had to force my tongue into her vagina, it was so tight and I had some well founded trepidations about FS because I'm not small.

On with the cap and onto FS. Try as I may I could not enter. She was a real trooper and did not shirk from doing her best to facilitate entry..[/QUOTE]Would be helpful to provide names if you recall them in these reports.

Just realized that I have not given a report on Miruna which is the clinica I have visited the most to date. Got a presentation of 15 stalwarts. Chose Meure, at least it sounded like that, at first I thought it was Mel but the reception said something like Meure. Blanca who was on the big side though not obese. I chose her for variety as I like to change things up a bit, she was also on the other side of 30. Surprisingly she was a bit shy with DFK which I totally did not expect. Everything else was on the menu. During my sexual maneuverings I actual considered anal as I like to do that with big woman i.e. they lie on their stomach and me on their back getting busy followed by doggy position of course, but alas did not, just finished in the sensual spoon position, although I'm certain that anal would have been available, this is Brazil after all.

Anyone know what happened with AltoBomGosto?

He does not file reports any longer. Quite helpful with information on SP.

Just wondering.

Tuesday-Thursday still best nights in SP?

[QUOTE=Firebird;2147785]Anyone know what happened with AltoBomGosto?

He does not file reports any longer. Quite helpful with information on SP.

Just wondering.[/QUOTE]The most useful guy from the Sao Paulo thread who only writes detailed reports left. I don't know where he is ether.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2147877]The most useful guy from the Sao Paulo thread who only writes detailed reports left. I don't know where he is ether.[/QUOTE]I will always answer any particular questions, please PM me.

[QUOTE=Melman111;2147175]Yes Nordico is 100% correct, Mercure hotels Jardins and another Mercure near to it (both close to Paulista avenue) are totally girl friendly. Multiple girls in night no issue. Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Which is more strategic to action Mercure Jardin or Lampona? Which rooms are nicer? Jardin is 2 blocks from metro. Only a $7 difference. Any other budget hotel recommendations near Paulista?

Hey AltoBomGosto, VERY HAPPY to see that you are around. I was getting worried that you disappeared somewhere.

You helped me several times when I came to SP and your reporting is excellent!!

Stay Safe and many thanks for all your help!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2149075]I will always answer any particular questions, please PM me.[/QUOTE]AltoBomGosto, at least tell us your dick is okay.

[QUOTE=Cool;2149095]Which is more strategic to action Mercure Jardin or Lampona? Which rooms are nicer? Jardin is 2 blocks from metro. Only a $7 difference. Any other budget hotel recommendations near Paulista?[/QUOTE]Ibis. The airport bus stops in front of the hotel. Just sign up to be member and you'll get a discount. If you are a smoker, Mercure Pamplona and Alamedas are great, because the rooms have balconies and you can smoke there.

P.S. GOL has free shuttle bus between GRU and CGH for the passengers of GOL, Delta, AF and KLM, if somebody is going to the direction of Moema. One can take a taxi from CGH. Guarucoop taxi was BRL 150 between GRU and Jardins. Normal taxi from Moema to GRU was BRL 100.

Planning a trip to Sao Paulo soon for the first time. I've read the thread and done my research on the hotels to stay in such as mecure Jardins which is friendly to bring girls. Also, I see the clinicas are a definite must to visit. However, I was wondering is it best to get an escort or to use PhotoAcompanhantes if I decide to go that route; just making sure I have all the info to make the best choices. I was thinking about using Brazilian independent escorts. Any info would be appreciated.

What is this noise someone was making about Tues. and Wednesday nights being the best?

Took a taxi to Bomboa this Wednesday and arrived 10:30-11:00 pm, it was obviously too late since I saw several hotties leave the club as I arrived. In Bomboa I had 5-6 screwdrivers and was charged 380 (reais at the exit, way too expensive. I felt hustled.

I left to go to Casarão, the taxi driver was mumbling about it being a bad place, I still went there. Casarão isn't even close to be half as good as Bomboa, maybe it was the wrong day and too early at 1 am. As I was pretty drunk and horny I still picked a girl to bring to my hotel. I paid 100 to the club and 350 to her in the morning as she left my hotel. As all other girls I've had in Brazil she pretty much allowed everything except anal. I regret going with her since her looks wasn't good, a weak 6/10.

[QUOTE=Larrybutler443;2150047]Planning a trip to Sao Paulo soon for the first time. I've read the thread and done my research on the hotels to stay in such as mecure Jardins which is friendly to bring girls. Also, I see the clinicas are a definite must to visit. However, I was wondering is it best to get an escort or to use PhotoAcompanhantes if I decide to go that route; just making sure I have all the info to make the best choices. I was thinking about using Brazilian independent escorts. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]PhotoAcompanhantes is not an agency. It is an advertising site for escorts. The best escorts operate as independents. Avoid anything that resembles an agency.

I personally wouldn't shop for escorts by looking at photos first. Sometimes the photos on the internet are not accurate or real. I suggest asking for recommendations here describing what you are looking for or going to gpguia to see who has high ratings. Even though it's in Portuguese, it's pretty simple to figure it out who has high ratings. Then go to their website photos to see if the girl appeals to you. If you desire specific services (anal, cum in mouth, etc.), it's not hard to figure out the sex terms in Portuguese. Use a translator and Whatsapp the girl. Sao Paulo has some amazing escorts.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2150367]I personally wouldn't shop for escorts by looking at photos first. Sometimes the photos on the internet are not accurate or real. I suggest asking for recommendations here describing what you are looking for or going to gpguia to see who has high ratings. Even though it's in Portuguese, it's pretty simple to figure it out who has high ratings. Then go to their website photos to see if the girl appeals to you. If you desire specific services (anal, cum in mouth, etc.), it's not hard to figure out the sex terms in Portuguese. Use a translator and Whatsapp the girl. Sao Paulo has some amazing escorts.[/QUOTE]That's the reason I used Twitter to find a few escorts during my visit to SP. Most of the girls have selfies and video on their Twitter stream.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2150451]That's the reason I used Twitter to find a few escorts during my visit to SP. Most of the girls have selfies and video on their Twitter stream.[/QUOTE]Yes absolutely, I forgot to mention the Twitter phenomenon. It seems many escorts can't resist posting selfies. Far more candid and untouched photos are posted.

I'd still recommend working back to the photos from gpguia.

Just spent a great evening at Scandallo. Was very close to skipping and pulling the trigger with a girl from mclass but decided against it. Showed up and 9:30 pm and paid 250 to get in, 150 of that goes to food and drink. First and foremost, they did some remodeling since I was there last year. Very nice. Of course, I instantly assumed that meant prices went up as well. As always, I went straight to the restaurant area for dinner. Food was very good and fresh. It bad at all. While eating I chatted up a larger girl from somewhere near Brasilia. Very nice just not my type. While eating I would guess I saw 8-9 girls that I was instantly interested in based on looks. I can't believe the variety and quality at this place. One girl who caught my eye came back and sat down for dinner. She approached afterwards and we sat and one of the couches to chat. Super beautiful face and very tiny with lots of tats, which for some reason I don't mind at all. She was from the interior of Sampa, appeared to have some Arab blood in her for sure. She just had a really great look that I was attracted to.

We talked for almost 20-min and she was cool. If you don't know Portuguese here you could struggle an bit. I must admit it helps so much to know the language. This girl told me roughly 90% of the guys in there are Brazilian so if you aren't you can stand out a bit. Anyways, down to the details. I asked her how much, she started at 700 for an hour! I didn't think it would be that high. I got her down to 550 and I was ok. Became more attractive than me as I got to know her. DFK, OWO (which was outstanding).

Lots of mutual touching, which I like. I started on top and finished on bottom. Wrapped up with a pretty decent massage and a shower. Was super fun. I actually went down to scan the sceen afterwards and was super impressed. I just didn't haven't in me and I have an early flight to catch so I left. Bummer I have to leave tomorrow. Love that place. Total damage 250 entry, 550 for an hour, and 200 for the room. Roughly $300 USD. A steal in my book for the quality here. Spent 3- hours in total. There is something for everyone at Scandallo. You name it, they got it. And I got her number. She said she would be happy to see me outside the place. Happy hunting amigos.

[QUOTE=Troyster;2151002]Just spent a great evening at Scandallo...[/QUOTE]Good report. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Troyster;2151002]Just spent a great evening at Scandallo.... I must admit it helps so much to know the language..... Total damage 250 entry, 550 for an hour, and 200 for the room. Roughly $300 USD. A steal in my book for the quality here. Spent 3- hours in total. There is something for everyone at Scandallo....[/QUOTE]I still cannot summon the gumption to visit this place. After all are these girls really worth 4 times as much as those in the clinicas? Yesterday visited Enjoy and sessioned Raphaela (5' 7" beauty); it was her first day at work there and I was her first customer. I actually wondered whether this girl had just been released from prison. She damn near abused me. She was visibly disappointed when I finally busted a nut. Wish I was 30 years younger. My 30 something year old self would have given her a good seeing to. Gotta work on turning back the hands of time.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2151219]I still cannot summon the gumption to visit this place. After all are these girls really worth 4 times as much as those in the clinicas? Yesterday visited Enjoy and sessioned Raphaela (5' 7" beauty); it was her first day at work there and I was her first customer. I actually wondered whether this girl had just been released from prison. She damn near abused me. She was visibly disappointed when I finally busted a nut. Wish I was 30 years younger. My 30 something year old self would have given her a good seeing to. Gotta work on turning back the hands of time.[/QUOTE]The same girls (not all) that work at Scandalo and the higher end establishments make their way to Casarao later in the night / morning! I agree it is amazing on a good night and definitely a bucket list destination; however it really is too much.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2151239]The same girls (not all) that work at Scandalo and the higher end establishments make their way to Casarao later in the night / morning! I agree it is amazing on a good night and definitely a bucket list destination; however it really is too much.[/QUOTE]How true!

Funny thing is, over the years I've even met girls at the trash places that work the high end clubs a few nights a week as well.

Looking for the big fish.

One extremely hot girl I met at a trash place told me should could do 20 guys a day in a trash place.

She said she would put lots of vaginal cream in to keep her from getting too irritated, and that most guys only lasted about 5 minutes, LOL.

Then she'the clean up, put on a fancy dress, and work at Cafe Photo, which was the hottest high end spot back then.

Lots of the girls, like you said, also work Casaro.

The last girl I was with at Casarao, also worked at Scandalo.

I went to Scandalo once, just to see it, never again.

Nice and fancy place, but definitely not worth the extra coin, for essentially the same girls as elsewhere.

IMHO of course, to each their own.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2151587]How true! Funny thing is, over the years I've even met girls at the trash places that work the high end clubs a few nights a week as well. Looking for the big fish. One extremely hot girl I met at a trash place told me should could do 20 guys a day in a trash place. She said she would put lots of vaginal cream in to keep her from getting too irritated, and that most guys only lasted about 5 minutes, LOL. Then she would clean up, put on a fancy dress, and work at Cafe Photo, which was the hottest high end spot back then. Nice and fancy place, but definitely not worth the extra coin, for essentially the same girls as elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I think it's extremely misleading to suggest that lots of girls who work at the high-end places also work the trash clubs. It's just not true. Some do. But a whole hell of a lot more don't, and would not be caught dead in a trash club! In fact, a Scandallo girl would be more likely to work as an independent escort than to ply her trade in a filthy trash brothel. So, it's not like just skip the higher end places because the hot ones will show up at the trash clubs later. It does not work like that. Some do, but like I said. A whole hell of a lot more do not! Especially the brancas if that's what one likes. So guys, if you want some guaranteed beautiful pussy, don't waste your time snooping around funky trash places. You go to clubs like Scandallo and Bomboa, and there you're going to find them! This is not to say don't go to the trash places at all. That's up you. You can find quality fucks for a third the price, but chances are good they won't look as good as a Scandallo or Bomboa girl.

Just don't let anybody con you into believing that you're going to find that same girl you lusted for in Scandallo the night before working at a trash club the following morning. You might. But, the chances are much, much greater that you will not! There's a reason why the hottest girls work at places like Scandallo and Bomboa. It's because they can, and want to cater to a particular class of client who himself pretty much doesn't want to hang out in stinky trash clubs, and is willing to pay more coin to fuck gorgeous tutes in clean, high-end environments. So don't kid yourself men. Sure, there's always a story of a tute doing exactly what Balboa says. But given the size of the scene, that's the exception, and not the rule. You want to find some guaranteed fine as fuck pussy where you don't have to fuck standing up with your shoes and socks on? Then go to Scandallo and Bomboa! And take your wallet! If you're more budget limited, stick to the clinicas where the tutes just don't look as good, but where you can get some damn good fucks! And if the trash clubs are for you, then knock yourself out!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2151587]How true!

Funny thing is, over the years I've even met girls at the trash places that work the high end clubs a few nights a week as well.

Looking for the big fish.

One extremely hot girl I met at a trash place told me should could do 20 guys a day in a trash place.

She said she would put lots of vaginal cream in to keep her from getting too irritated, and that most guys only lasted about 5 minutes, LOL.

Then she'the clean up, put on a fancy dress, and work at Cafe Photo, which was the hottest high end spot back then.

Lots of the girls, like you said, also work Casaro.

The last girl I was with at Casarao, also worked at Scandalo.

I went to Scandalo once, just to see it, never again.

Nice and fancy place, but definitely not worth the extra coin, for essentially the same girls as elsewhere.

IMHO of course, to each their own.[/QUOTE]Yes, I totally agree Scandalo can become super pricey super fast. I know because I was there 3 nights in a row last month LOL. I have seen a few girls there that I also saw at Casarao. Personally, I love the higher end environment. It's less grimey, not a total cockfest, and you have a big selection without worrying about 5 dudes going after same girl. I'm a night person so boites is my bread and butter and I do like clinicas but I love to drink and do party favors, which is not possible at day time spots. Scandalo girls have told that random girls that want to work there have to pay to go in, not sure if it's true. There is a 6 story apt complex same block as Scandalo that houses over 100 girls who come and work from all over Brasil. One Rio girl I sessioned with roomed with another there and they pay 'rent' and work full time.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2151239]The same girls (not all) that work at Scandalo and the higher end establishments make their way to Casarao later in the night / morning! I agree it is amazing on a good night and definitely a bucket list destination; however it really is too much.[/QUOTE]How late, and is it only certain days?

When I visited Casarão it was not comparable to Bomboa.

Also, not all women in Bomboa are great looking, I wouldn't even notice some of them in Casarão. If it's the bottom of the barrell that can't get clients at Bomboa who goes to Casarão it really isn't such a great deal imo.

Honestly, when I went to Bomboa I saw many hot girls leave when I arrived at 10-11 pm.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2151587]How true!

Funny thing is, over the years I've even met girls at the trash places that work the high end clubs a few nights a week as well.

Looking for the big fish.

One extremely hot girl I met at a trash place told me should could do 20 guys a day in a trash place.

She said she would put lots of vaginal cream in to keep her from getting too irritated, and that most guys only lasted about 5 minutes, LOL.

Then she'the clean up, put on a fancy dress, and work at Cafe Photo, which was the hottest high end spot back then.

Lots of the girls, like you said, also work Casaro..[/QUOTE]Only some girls also work in trash clubs. Many bitches lie about working in high end venues. The only way to check is to hit those clubs in order for you to see with your own eyes.

Being cheap is very good but not too much. Enjoy your missions in trash clubs and good luck fucking those girls faking that they work in high end termas. You like. If you hate high end venues that's your problem but that doesn't mean everybody hates the same way as you do.

I can't imagine myself fucking a dirty ***** fucked by many guys on the same day, standing up due to dirt and filth in beds and unchanged sheets.

Not forgetting many people only plan to come to Sao Paulo for few days or weeks and have no time to waste on dickfests unless it is their thing.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2151853]Only some girls also work in trash clubs. Many bitches lie about working in high end venues. The only way to check is to hit those clubs in order for you to see with your own eyes.

Being cheap is very good but not too much. Enjoy your missions in trash clubs and good luck fucking those girls faking that they work in high end termas. You like. If you hate high end venues that's your problem but that doesn't mean everybody hates the same way as you do.

I can't imagine myself fucking a dirty ***** fucked by many guys on the same day, standing up due to dirt and filth in beds and unchanged sheets.

Not forgetting many people only plan to come to Sao Paulo for few days or weeks and have no time to waste on dickfests unless it is their thing.[/QUOTE]Dude, are you really this angry, and are you really a complete moron as you appear to be in many of your posts?

I never said all the girls work both sides, I never said I banged the girl that banged 20 guys, and I never said I hate high end clubs!

Im stating the facts and Im not a novice visitor like you that is most likely easily fooled.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2151672]I think it's extremely misleading to suggest that lots of girls who work at the high-end places also work the trash clubs. It's just not true.[/QUOTE]Yes, that would be misleading.

Good thing I said "some girls" work in the trash places, and not "lots of girls".

And yes, I've been in Sao Paulo now for almost 15 years, and yes, some girls do work both sides!

Definitely NOT most.

“Lots of the girls” DO also work occasionally at Casarão.

I know them, thats true! Not misleading.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2151923]Lots of the girls DO also work occasionally at Casaro. I know them, thats true! Not misleading.[/QUOTE]Although I did not find the line-up at Casarao to be anywhere near as strong as at Scandallo or Bomboa, or even Cafe Photo for that matter, I do not consider Casarao American Bar to be a "trash" club.

Hey, thanks for the reports. I'm catching myself totally unprepared for a trip to Sao Paulo. Life gets busy, not typical of me but here I am trying to make-up time and get ready for trip end of month.

Questions:

For accommodations, economical and a good location and safe are important. Any recommendations? Hotel or airbnb, either way works for me.

Also, which reports have been most useful for you. I am hoping to get up to speed fast. I know some forums have lists, if one exists can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Reading through and I found one mention of a map but it seems to have disappeared. If there exists any such resource, please advise. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2151784]Scandalo girls have told that random girls that want to work there have to pay to go in, not sure if it's true. There is a 6 story apt complex same block as Scandalo that houses over 100 girls who come and work from all over Brasil. One Rio girl I sessioned with roomed with another there and they pay 'rent' and work full time.[/QUOTE]A girl from Porto Alegre, who I met in Casarao and who said she usually works in Scandallo when she comes to SP, told me that the girls who work in Scandallo have to go there every day and if they skip a day, they have to pay BRL 200 to enter again.

This is my type. Not voluptuous or ultra sensual, just slim and girl next doorish. Met her at Tangara. Happy with the clinicas.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2151850]How late, and is it only certain days?

When I visited Casaro it was not comparable to Bomboa.

Also, not all women in Bomboa are great looking, I wouldn't even notice some of them in Casaro. If it's the bottom of the barrell that can't get clients at Bomboa who goes to Casaro it really isn't such a great deal imo.

Honestly, when I went to Bomboa I saw many hot girls leave when I arrived at 10-11 pm.[/QUOTE]If you want Scandalo / Bomboa girls go to Scandalo / Bomboa there is no exact day or time. As Cane said I wouldn't put Casarao on the same level as the top places nor would I consider it trash but there is something for everyone. I was just pointing out that girls do go back and forth, which is common knowledge. Probably not the hottest because why would they need to go. When you think that Scandalo is closed on Sundays and there are girls that travel from out of town and stay in that offsite complex next to Scandalo or there can be slow days like Mondays, then they will eventually migrate to Casarao. BTW Monday at Casarao is churrasco night and gets pretty busy could be your best bet. Let's be real if money was not an issue we would all go to Scandalo and Centauruses of the world.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2151850]How late, and is it only certain days?

When I visited Casaro it was not comparable to Bomboa.

Also, not all women in Bomboa are great looking, I wouldn't even notice some of them in Casaro. If it's the bottom of the barrell that can't get clients at Bomboa who goes to Casaro it really isn't such a great deal imo.

Honestly, when I went to Bomboa I saw many hot girls leave when I arrived at 10-11 pm.[/QUOTE]I usually arrive early and leave Casarao by 1:30 so I can't speak to whether any girls that work the higher end clubs arrive later. I actually doubt it. Here's why:

-Girls get in free to Casarao only if they enter before midnight. After midnight I think they have to pay 100 to enter and work. Also, the high end clubs are ope till 4 am themselves, so I doubt many if any go to Casarao after that.

That said, there are early shifts at Bomboa and Scandalo, so its possible for the early shift girls to go to Cassarao after the early shift ends. But again, I would expect them to enter Cassarao by midnight. Most likely time to see a few high end girls there is Saturday and Sunday when the high end clubs are dead and girls are not obligated to work.

But again, I am pretty sure most girls enter by midnight, which is why I leave by 1:30. Someone correct me if I am wrong on this.

It reminds me of the rumor in Rio that top club girls go to Mosaico after hours. Went to Mosaico 3 times very late, never saw any late arriving hotties.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2152089]A girl from Porto Alegre, who I met in Casarao and who said she usually works in Scandallo when she comes to SP, told me that the girls who work in Scandallo have to go there every day and if they skip a day, they have to pay BRL 200 to enter again.[/QUOTE]They have to do 5 days out of 6, Mon-Sat. Can only choose Mon or Sat as their off day.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2151918]Dude, are you really this angry, and are you really a complete moron as you appear to be in many of your posts?

I never said all the girls work both sides, I never said I banged the girl that banged 20 guys, and I never said I hate high end clubs!

Im stating the facts and Im not a novice visitor like you that is most likely easily fooled.[/QUOTE]You never said but you fucked. Many guys banged the same girls in trash clubs on the same day, that's why the place is called Trash, because girls are trashes.

Brazilians don't know I am a gringo when I am in Brazil. I do speak Portuguese from Portugal and it is very easy for me to mimic the Brazilian accent. I never get fooled because I like to fool chicks. I am a novice in Brazil, Sao Paulo is a good city to fish regulars even better than Rio de Janeiro. Ive only fucked regulars and girls in some clubs in Sao Paulo. Again I am a fucking novice but I get by fine as a novice. I prefer Termas over Clubs and Paulistanas over Cariocas.

I am angry but not with you. I am moron but I don't know how moron I am but one thing is for sure; I am less moron than you are.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2151784]There is a 6 story apt complex same block as Scandalo that houses over 100 girls who come and work from all over Brasil. One Rio girl I sessioned with roomed with another there and they pay 'rent' and work full time.[/QUOTE]It might be interesting to know that address.

When Help Disco in Rio was cranking away, a local contact booked me in a dumpy apartment in a building that I called the "beehive". It was near Help and the building was full of Help Disco garotas one floor after the another. The apartment itself wasn't nice. However as soon as sunset came, the apartments and hallways were abuzz with Brazilian babes getting prepared for going out to the disco. It was kind of fun walking the hallways and chatting up the girls in a more informal, relaxed environment. They did not have their game face on. In other words, outside the disco and the nearby cafes most the girls were more chill and not selling.

I'm not saying you could find an apartment to rent in the building (even though that's a good idea), but you might be able to figure out where the girls go to have coffee, lunch, etc.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2152360]You never said but you fucked. Many guys banged the same girls in trash clubs on the same day, that's why the place is called Trash, because girls are trashes.

Brazilians don't know I am a gringo when I am in Brazil. I do speak Portuguese from Portugal and it is very easy for me to mimic the Brazilian accent. I never get fooled because I like to fool chicks. I am a novice in Brazil, Sao Paulo is a good city to fish regulars even better than Rio de Janeiro. Ive only fucked regulars and girls in some clubs in Sao Paulo. Again I am a fucking novice but I get by fine as a novice. I prefer Termas over Clubs and Paulistanas over Cariocas.

I am angry but not with you. I am moron but I don't know how moron I am but one thing is for sure; I am less moron than you are.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up. Your posts are always so enlightening. And yes, I must be a moron because I never understand just what it is you're babbling about.

Thanks though, for the reply!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2152435]Thanks for clearing that up. Your posts are always so enlightening. And yes, I must be a moron because I never understand just what it is you're babbling about.

Thanks though, for the reply![/QUOTE]I know it is Greek to you, It is time for you to learn Greek and maybe you will be luckier with Turk Murphy.

Can't recall in which clinica I met her. She represents my taste in garotas as well.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2152725]Can't recall in which clinica I met her. She represents my taste in garotas as well.[/QUOTE]Do you like your Brasileiras on the thin side? It would all come down to the face for me and that of course can be influenced by smile and facial gesture.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2152725]Can't recall in which clinica I met her. She represents my taste in garotas as well.[/QUOTE]Please the face, her hair is hiding her from looks. Is she naturally or unnaturally blond.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2152770]Do you like your Brasileiras on the thin side? It would all come down to the face for me and that of course can be influenced by smile and facial gesture.[/QUOTE]I do prefer my women on the slim side which is not very easy to find in Brazil. A pretty face is a must for me. I also prefer tall women but will settle for shorter if she is prettier and thinner. In clinicas I am sometimes swayed by the initial greeting; I tend to go for the more friendly and passionate greeters, but I have experienced garotas who were cold in the meeting room but were very hot on the bed.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2152801]Please the face, her hair is hiding her from looks. Is she naturally or unnaturally blond.[/QUOTE]I've taken the decision not to show the face of the girls even if they allow me to photo their faces. I didn't ask but I think that's her natural hair color.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2152937]Missing your post, ABG. The So Paulo thread is started to being infected in the same way as the Rio thread.[/QUOTE]That's the reason why I did not post anymore.

Another beauty that represents my taste from SP clinica.

I have got messages that the link to the Map doesn't work. [URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1obZnjYz9PM6RB8x5HosK6XFVXGWLYK3d&usp=sharing[/URL].

Please let me know if this link doesn't work.

If there are some interesting places that you think that should be on the Map, please help me to improve it, and send me a PM with info.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2153224]I have got messages that the link to the Map doesn't work. [URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1obZnjYz9PM6RB8x5HosK6XFVXGWLYK3d&usp=sharing[/URL].

Please let me know if this link doesn't work.

If there are some interesting places that you think that should be on the Map, please help me to improve it, and send me a PM with info.[/QUOTE]That link worked for me Nordico. Thank you very much! The Sao Paulo thread is much more interesting and more useful now that we are able to get diverse views from different mongers of various backgrounds with different preferences going to Sampa. Read, learn, and go for what you believe will work best for you!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2153124]That's the reason why I did not post anymore.[/QUOTE]ABG, your posts were always highly appreciated. You provided unique, on the ground detailed information on the clinica scene.

I've always disagreed with Sperto. There is nothing wrong with carrying short conversations on the forum. The various city forums can get quiet for a day or two. What's the harm in a little conversation? Scroll over it if you're looking for something specific.

In total contrast to your detailed posts ABG, it doesn't do mongers traveling to Brazil much good telling them you banged some hotty you met in a boate unless you have a phone number. I've read many a great story without any details that would help me. In the past, I have met up with girls that members I trusted have recommended and have PM'ed me the contact details. That's the way to do it.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2153290]ABG, your posts were always highly appreciated. You provided unique, on the ground detailed information on the clinica scene.

I've always disagreed with Sperto. There is nothing wrong with carrying short conversations on the forum. The various city forums can get quiet for a day or two. What's the harm in a little conversation? Scroll over it if you're looking for something specific.

In total contrast to your detailed posts ABG, it doesn't do mongers traveling to Brazil much good telling them you banged some hotty you met in a boate unless you have a phone number. I've read many a great story without any details that would help me. In the past, I have met up with girls that members I trusted have recommended and have PM'ed me the contact details. That's the way to do it.[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo board is not going to be affected. The only thing I agree on is the posts of ABG are the most detailed on this forum. Many members write useful reports on mongering in Rio de Janeiro.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2153241]That link worked for me Nordico. Thank you very much! The Sao Paulo thread is much more interesting and more useful now that we are able to get diverse views from different mongers of various backgrounds with different preferences going to Sampa. Read, learn, and go for what you believe will work best for you![/QUOTE]Totally agree. Recently there were some excellent posts by a guy called "RiceRocket99" on the boites. Being a clinica man myself I really enjoyed his blow by blow accounts, which included photos, of destinations that I have not summoned up the courage to visit yet. I read and learn.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2153224]I have got messages that the link to the Map doesn't work. [URL]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1obZnjYz9PM6RB8x5HosK6XFVXGWLYK3d&usp=sharing[/URL].

Please let me know if this link doesn't work.

If there are some interesting places that you think that should be on the Map, please help me to improve it, and send me a PM with info.[/QUOTE]Nice map. If only there were more places near the airport in Guarulhos.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2153342]Totally agree. Recently there were some excellent posts by a guy called "RiceRocket99" on the boites. Being a clinica man myself I really enjoyed his blow by blow accounts, which included photos, of destinations that I have not summoned up the courage to visit yet. I read and learn.[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed my reports. I do like the clinicas as well, but I'm just a night / party person so boites were my bread and butter. The great thing about SP, there's something here for everyone. Daytime or nighttime, thin or thick, dark or light, fake or natural, low end or high end. Here are some pics of the boite girls I was with.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2153290]It doesn't do mongers traveling to Brazil much good telling them you banged some hotty you met in a boate unless you have a phone number. I've read many a great story without any details that would help me. In the past, I have met up with girls that members I trusted have recommended and have PM'ed me the contact details. That's the way to do it.[/QUOTE]I totally disagree and have a very different perspective and approach. No matter what country I'm going to, I've never got caught up in seeking out a specific girl that somebody else had. I don't show up in a town looking specifically for this one or that one, not unless I already had her on a previous trip. I don't need that kind of help nor want that kind of help. What I want to know is generally where can I find the ones who suit my tastes, and who will provide the services I desire? That's what I want to know. The fun in it for me is to then go to those places and discover my own hotties who become the source of my own encounters and stories, which serve as confirmation that this place or that one is a good joint to go to for this, that, or the other kind of sexual services.

Now, maybe it's somebody that another monger wrote about. Maybe it isn't. But I'm not the type who comes here and reads about, let's call her "Fatima", and then I show up looking for specifically for "Fatima" or want somebody to share her contact details with me before I travel. No, the extreme pleasure I take out of this hobby is showing up and finding my own "Fatimas". I don't want or need anybody's phone number. Just point me in the right directions. Then turn me loose! Because believe me, then I will be getting those contact details and phone numbers on my own accord. In other words, I take great pleasure in fucking what I alone hunted, not what somebody else did. As a traveling "tourist" monger (that's what my personal situation allows), all I need is for others to suggest some fertile hunting grounds (that's what I use the site for)! Then, I will do the rest of the work. No personal contact details required. That's the way I enjoy doing it!

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2153447]Glad you enjoyed my reports. I do like the clinicas as well, but I'm just a night / party person so boites were my bread and butter. The great thing about SP, there's something here for everyone. Daytime or nighttime, thin or thick, dark or light, fake or natural, low end or high end. Here are some pics of the boite girls I was with.[/QUOTE]Great photos. Good for me to know what I'm missing in the boites. A picture is definitely worth a thousand words. Here's another sample of a clinica girl. Sorry I can't show the face but take my word for it, it was amazing and she fucked the hell out of me.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2153479]I totally disagree and have a very different perspective and approach. No matter what country I'm going to, I've never got caught up in seeking out a specific girl that somebody else had. I don't show up in a town looking specifically for this one or that one, not unless I already had her on a previous trip. I don't need that kind of help nor want that kind of help. What I want to know is generally where can I find the ones who suit my tastes, and who will provide the services I desire? That's what I want to know. The fun in it for me is to then go to those places and discover my own hotties who become the source of my own encounters and stories, which serve as confirmation that this place or that one is a good joint to go to for this, that, or the other kind of sexual services.

..........Then, I will do the rest of the work. No personal contact details required. That's the way I enjoy doing it![/QUOTE]Fair enough. That wasn't the point of my post entirely. My point is the forum can have different things for different members. I don't have a problem with twice or thrice a week updates on the scene at Scandallo. However, you have to admit the scene changes glacially. You could come back here in three to six months and get totally caught up on Scandallo and the other boates in five, ten minutes. Eventually something hotter will take Scandallo's place and that would be big news.

While I'm not saying it's a prerequisite for posting on a venue, there is obviously a market for detailed reviews and contact info. ABG can tell you which clinicas currently offer the best hunting, but he also provides details of specific girls in the current line-up. The Montreal board where escorts and agencies dominate the scene is having a polite discussion now about whether to select girls in advance of your trip or just rely more on the bookers at brand name agencies. Again, everyone is going to play it different.

I'm guilty and accused by some of being a conversationalist. It's not like anyone has to sort through several dozen posts here at ISG every day. You'll find that the same protesters will jump into a conversation about culture or politics etc. When they find it interests them. Lastly, many of the local sex boards have dedicated threads to miscellaneous topics. Some of them are kind of fun to read. Not only do they make my visits more interesting, I can get on with the girls and the locals better.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2153447]Glad you enjoyed my reports. I do like the clinicas as well, but I'm just a night / party person so boites were my bread and butter. The great thing about SP, there's something here for everyone. Daytime or nighttime, thin or thick, dark or light, fake or natural, low end or high end. Here are some pics of the boite girls I was with.[/QUOTE]Where did you find the first three girls? Very pretty!!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2153479]...No matter what country I'm going to, I've never got caught up in seeking out a specific girl that somebody else had. I don't show up in a town looking specifically for this one or that one, not unless I already had her on a previous trip...
[/QUOTE]Given how much YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary) there is in this field, it is a bad idea to expect the same results as somebody else. Not to mention that mongers taste vary quite a bit. A 10 for someone may be an 8 for someone else. I always start from scratch, but I do like to hear intel about mongering venues.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2153479]I totally disagree and have a very different perspective and approach. No matter what country I'm going to, I've never got caught up in seeking out a specific girl that somebody else had. I don't show up in a town looking specifically for this one or that one, not unless I already had her on a previous trip. I don't need that kind of help nor want that kind of help. What I want to know is generally where can I find the ones who suit my tastes, and who will provide the services I desire? That's what I want to know. The fun in it for me is to then go to those places and discover my own hotties who become the source of my own encounters and stories, which serve as confirmation that this place or that one is a good joint to go to for this, that, or the other kind of sexual services.

Now, maybe it's somebody that another monger wrote about. Maybe it isn't. But I'm not the type who comes here and reads about, let's call her "Fatima", and then I show up looking for specifically for "Fatima" or want somebody to share her contact details with me before I travel. No, the extreme pleasure I take out of this hobby is showing up and finding my own "Fatimas". I don't want or need anybody's phone number. Just point me in the right directions. Then turn me loose! Because believe me, then I will be getting those contact details and phone numbers on my own accord. In other words, I take great pleasure in fucking what I alone hunted, not what somebody else did. As a traveling "tourist" monger (that's what my personal situation allows), all I need is for others to suggest some fertile hunting grounds (that's what I use the site for)! Then, I will do the rest of the work. No personal contact details required. That's the way I enjoy doing it![/QUOTE]Everybody has their own way of mongering in Brazil. I just like to fuck the girls I meet at the moment. Reading histories is very good and a pastime. Many interesting histories of mongering. So keeping people updated on what's going on in Brazil is important. I just fuck the girls I meet by myself, no need to meet bitches through the intermediary of someone. Different strokes for different folks. If people like to share contacts so good for them.

Turgid, we both love Brazil! But man, your taste in women is very different from mine. I want some tutes with some meat on them cheeks! You know? Something I can bury my forehead deep up into! Hahaha! Like these ones! I like big butts I cannot lie! LOL! This is one reason why I love Brazilian girls so much. So many with the "LA face" but an "Oakland booty" hehehe! Even the brancas "got back". And they know how to use it too LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2153447]Glad you enjoyed my reports. I do like the clinicas as well, but I'm just a night / party person so boites were my bread and butter. The great thing about SP, there's something here for everyone. Daytime or nighttime, thin or thick, dark or light, fake or natural, low end or high end. Here are some pics of the boite girls I was with.[/QUOTE]The third girl is fantastic. Where did you met her, Scandallo or Bomboa?

I tried to PM you. However your inbox seems full.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2153659]Where did you find the first three girls? Very pretty!![/QUOTE]First 2 girls from Scandalo: Bianca and Carissa.

Third blonde girl in sunglasses is Vivi from Bomboa. I've tried to upload more pics (from phone) but got frustrated as each time it kept saying files were too large, even with just 2 pics! After like 5 tries, finally uploaded the ones I did.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2153747]First 2 girls from Scandalo: Bianca and Carissa.

Third blonde girl in sunglasses is Vivi from Bomboa. I've tried to upload more pics (from phone) but got frustrated as each time it kept saying files were too large, even with just 2 pics! After like 5 tries, finally uploaded the ones I did.[/QUOTE]I get the same message. I have to reduce the size of the image before it will let me upload.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2153747]First 2 girls from Scandalo: Bianca and Carissa.

Third blonde girl in sunglasses is Vivi from Bomboa. I've tried to upload more pics (from phone) but got frustrated as each time it kept saying files were too large, even with just 2 pics! After like 5 tries, finally uploaded the ones I did.[/QUOTE]Easy way to reduce the size of your photos (iPhone), is to send them to yourself by email. When you press send button the app asks you, if you want resize them. Choose medium size and the photos will be resized to 640 X 480. Then go to your inbox and save the photos. The maximum size of photos to post in the forum is 648 X 648 pixels and 390.6 KB.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2153833]Easy way to reduce the size of your photos (iPhone), is to send them to yourself by email. When you press send button the app asks you, if you want resize them. Choose medium size and the photos will be resized to 640 X 480. Then go to your inbox and save the photos. The maximum size of photos to post in the forum is 648 X 648 pixels and 390.6 KB.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the quick tip. I just got lazy and didn't want to resize my pics.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2153747]First 2 girls from Scandalo: Bianca and Carissa.

Third blonde girl in sunglasses is Vivi from Bomboa. I've tried to upload more pics (from phone) but got frustrated as each time it kept saying files were too large, even with just 2 pics! After like 5 tries, finally uploaded the ones I did.[/QUOTE]Yes, nice pics RR. And thanks for offering up some proof of what I've said before. Scandallo is not just a place full of blonde, model types. Some people have over-generalized about this. There are plenty of morenas to be found up in there too. At least when I went there was. And you obviously hooked up with some too. In fact, when I went to Sampa, I found a higher percentage of blondies at Bomboa versus at Scandallo, which is of course much larger. But of course, line-ups always can and do change. Good job on your first voyage! But I still think you would have had a better time had you eased up some off of the "happy water" hahaha!

Had great fun with her.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2153684]Turgid, we both love Brazil! But man, your taste in women is very different from mine. I want some tutes with some meat on them cheeks! You know? Something I can bury my forehead deep up into! Hahaha! Like these ones! I like big butts I cannot lie! LOL! This is one reason why I love Brazilian girls so much. So many with the "LA face" but an "Oakland booty" hehehe! Even the brancas "got back". And they know how to use it too LOLOLOL![/QUOTE]You got me beat with the booty, no doubt. I like big butt girls for anal which I must confess I've not been doing very much of. I like thin pretty girls for BBBJ, FS and CIM.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2153970]You got me beat with the booty, no doubt. I like big butt girls for anal which I must confess I've not been doing very much of. I like thin pretty girls for BBBJ, FS and CIM.[/QUOTE]Here's some girls from Sampa clinicas / clubs who I did who had nice butts. Didn't get to do any of them anally though! Well, the first one really enjoy my tongue in between her cheeks. "Oiee! Oiee! Oieeeee"! You know how the Brazilian girls do LOL! And the second one, I tried to butt fuck her, but her A-hole was just too tight. One of my few "fails" hehehe! And then the third one, she too was down with anal, but I ended up not fucking her in the butt either over two different sessions! I was just enjoying doing too many other things with (and to) her. Was almost as if the "Supreme Cornholer of the Tutes" was losing his grip hahaha!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2153978]Here's some girls from Sampa clinicas / clubs who I did who had nice butts. Didn't get to do any of them anally though! Well, the first one really enjoy my tongue in between her cheeks. "Oiee! Oiee! Oieeeee"! You know how the Brazilian girls do LOL! And the second one, I tried to butt fuck her, but her A-hole was just too tight. One of my few "fails" hehehe! And then the third one, she too was down with anal, but I ended up not fucking her in the butt either over two different sessions! I was just enjoying doing too many other things with (and to) her. Was almost as if the "Supreme Cornholer of the Tutes" was losing his grip hahaha![/QUOTE]You seem to have got the best of both worlds: the boites and clinicas. Here's another clinica babe with whom I did everything except anal. BBBJ, DATY, FS, came in her mouth and exited my pecker clean as a whistle and she was licking her lips.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2154465]You seem to have got the best of both worlds: the boites and clinicas. Here's another clinica babe with whom I did everything except anal. BBBJ, DATY, FS, came in her mouth and exited my pecker clean as a whistle and she was licking her lips.[/QUOTE]Nice! I did not do so well getting BBBJ / CIM in Sampa. This was a disappointment with the place as that is pretty automatic in Rio for me. Hope to do better next time. And yeah, I believe that working both the CLínicas and the boites is the best approach to follow if one can. You'll find value for your money at the Clinicas and can fuck the absolute most gorgeous tires at the boites. Besides, like Rice Rocket notes, some of us are nighttime mongers. So what are we going to do? Where are we going to go? To the boites! So, I say hit a Clinica or two in the daytime so you won't feel so horny at the boites at night and perhaps save some money LOL!

Nice to see what the typical quality is like in places like scandalo. Especially for those of us thinking about a sampa trip for the first time. Keep it coming please.

Any tried this place? They are near the Guarulhos Airport. I'm thinking of shooting over there while on a 5 hour layover.

Clinica girl with a Turgid-type tushy hehehe!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2154820]Clinica girl with a Turgid-type tushy hehehe![/QUOTE]Did this one recently. Am I improving? As soon as I exited the shower she assaulted me with a BBBJ. I think she would have requested a tip if I wanted a CBJ instead. Heh heh.

New place open from today.

Av. Irai 511.

Mon-Fri 10-22.

Sat. 11-19.

Sunday: Closed.

1 h-380. No 1/2 h possibility.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2155573]New place open from today.

Av. Irai 511.

Mon-Fri 10-22.

Sat. 11-19.

Sunday: Closed.

1 h-380. No 1/2 h possibility.[/QUOTE]380 R for an hour at a clinica? LOL. No way the quality is twice as good as Miruna, or red, or enjoy. Tick tock, tick tock.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2155644]380 R for an hour at a clinica? LOL. No way the quality is twice as good as Miruna, or red, or enjoy. Tick tock, tick tock.[/QUOTE]That was what I paid at FranceBel and I did not find their garotas any better than the other clinicas. However, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2155644]380 R for an hour at a clinica? LOL. No way the quality is twice as good as Miruna, or red, or enjoy. Tick tock, tick tock.[/QUOTE]But is the quality at Cafe Photo, Scandallo and Bomboa twice as good as at Moema Prime or triple as in Miruna, Enjoy, Chanes?

Recently sessioned Krystal (not sure about the spelling) at Miruna. Slim girl with a butt that The Cane would have been proud of. During foreplay I asked her to turn around which she queried. I pointed to her butt and my mouth and she said "Oh, boom boom". I spent some time feasting on that boom boom, something which I have not been able to do much of recently because of unsavoury odors (don't know whether its because of the recent hot weather). Anyway, R230 for 1 hour well spent. She absolutely refused me a photo. Hmmmf.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2156847]Recently sessioned Krystal (not sure about the spelling) at Miruna. Slim girl with a butt that The Cane would have been proud of. During foreplay I asked her to turn around which she queried. I pointed to her butt and my mouth and she said "Oh, boom boom". I spent some time feasting on that boom boom, something which I have not been able to do much of recently because of unsavoury odors (don't know whether its because of the recent hot weather). Anyway, R230 for 1 hour well spent. She absolutely refused me a photo. Hmmmf.[/QUOTE]If you join their mileage plan, you get a free session after 5 (6?) sessions, which brings down the cost considerably. Or, if you post on [URL]gpguia.net[/URL] or [URL]forumcutuca.com[/URL] subsequent sessions are only 170 (180?) real. However, you cannot combine the two programs.

Yesterday went with Patty, a nice morena, almost a MILF, very GFE, good BBBJ, missionary and CIM.

28 girls in house, one of the largest line ups in a clinica, always new girls.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2157186]Yesterday went with Patty, a nice morena, almost a MILF, very GFE, good BBBJ, missionary and CIM.

28 girls in house, one of the largest line ups in a clinica, always new girls.[/QUOTE]Happy to see you back.

Hope you will keep us updated with clinicas. I will try out some clinicas in Sao Paulo for the first time when I am back.

Hope you can also describe the room quality.

But once in Campinas, I took the free time and searched on the site [URL]http://acompanhantescampinas.info[/URL].

I found Soraia and I found it wonderful in the photos, We scored and as soon as I got it we went to the motel, the girl has a very beautiful face and her body is well defined, she is a university with a little girl face.

We went to the bath together and there already began a beautiful pacifier in the hair, very good, we went to bed and she continued the pacifier, after a good time so I asked her to cover and come over or I would finish right there, she came on top of it, after 4 and finished with it on the roast chicken.

We left for a bath and to clean ourselves, we stayed in a good chat and always she smoothed me, fell of mouth again and finished with her sucking.

Highly recommend, td positive.

Value: are $ 300,00 per 1:00 hour.

Serena, a 27 yo black girl, her first week as garota, very nice face, tits and ass. Perfect NEGRA body.

Went with her to room 02, with A/C and private shower.

Excellent performace, LFK, she on top, missionary and BBBJ and CIM. Did not ask for DATY and ANAL.

100 reais = 1/2 h.

Yesterday 27 girls in the house.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2157575]Serena, a 27 yo black girl, her first week as garota, very nice face, tits and ass. Perfect NEGRA body.

Went with her to room 02, with A/C and private shower.

Excellent performace, LFK, she on top, missionary and BBBJ and CIM. Did not ask for DATY and ANAL.

100 reais = 1/2 h.

Yesterday 27 girls in the house.

ABG.[/QUOTE]SUSAN AND TAKUMA, the managers speak english.

ABG.

I am in Sao Paulo for a day. Unfortunately out by the airport. I am big fan of RTFF, but have been reading and just thought I'd ask. If I had one night or an afternoon in Sao Paulo, what would the best of you mongerers recommend?

[QUOTE=Ega87;2157478]But once in Campinas, I took the free time and searched on the site [URL]http://acompanhantescampinas.info[/URL].

I found Soraia and I found it wonderful in the photos, We scored and as soon as I got it we went to the motel, the girl has a very beautiful face and her body is well defined, she is a university with a little girl face.

We went to the bath together and there already began a beautiful pacifier in the hair, very good, we went to bed and she continued the pacifier, after a good time so I asked her to cover and come over or I would finish right there, she came on top of it, after 4 and finished with it on the roast chicken.

We left for a bath and to clean ourselves, we stayed in a good chat and always she smoothed me, fell of mouth again and finished with her sucking.

Highly recommend, td positive.

Value: are $ 300,00 per 1:00 hour.[/QUOTE]Is it your English or you used a translator? What a crap! At least you got a good experience, I presume If of course it was a real meeting.

Some more girls I sessioned with at Moema clinicas.

Anybody know which casas will be open on Good Friday and Easter Saturday this year?

Thanks.

SS.

[QUOTE=SunsetStrip;2159982]Anybody know which casas will be open on Good Friday and Easter Saturday this year?

Thanks.

SS.[/QUOTE]Abbobora will be closed on Good Friday but open on Easter Saturday. Tangara will be open on both days. Sessioned at Abbobora and Miruna yesterday and at Tangara today. After my session at Abbobora saw about six hot garotas who were not in the lineup, probably for special clients. Miruna had 2 available girls one of whom I sampled. Today Tangara was busy, many girls and many punters

Will be a fun weekend for sure!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2160110]Abbobora will be closed on Good Friday but open on Easter Saturday. Tangara will be open on both days. Sessioned at Abbobora and Miruna yesterday and at Tangara today. After my session at Abbobora saw about six hot garotas who were not in the lineup, probably for special clients. Miruna had 2 available girls one of whom I sampled. Today Tangara was busy, many girls and many punters[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SunsetStrip;2160176]Will be a fun weekend for sure![/QUOTE]Happy it's open, but initial visit is 2 girls currently sessioning while 7 guys wait. Maybe I should come back another time, ie not good Friday. Lined up for later, working girl from tinder. This city is full of gorgeous girls.

I know people say RTFF, but I wish there was just some place where it is all summarized. Thailand, Russia, Germany, etc all have different "formats". In perusing the last few days Brazil posts it looks like high end club scene would be good. Scandallo, Bomboa, Millenium, Photo?

Can someone experienced give me the general lay of the land and thoughts on how those (or other) options differ, plus costs in USD if you have it.

P.S. Speak not one word of Portuguese.

Thanks a bunch!

P.S. If you want London, US, Spain, Russia, Germany, Thailand, Japan, Korea, China tips just let me know!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2160565]I know people say RTFF, but I wish there was just some place where it is all summarized. Thailand, Russia, Germany, etc all have different "formats". In perusing the last few days Brazil posts it looks like high end club scene would be good. Scandallo, Bomboa, Millenium, Photo?

Can someone experienced give me the general lay of the land and thoughts on how those (or other) options differ, plus costs in USD if you have it.

P.S. Speak not one word of Portuguese.

Thanks a bunch!

P.S. If you want London, US, Spain, Russia, Germany, Thailand, Japan, Korea, China tips just let me know![/QUOTE]I don't need tips on mongering in Japan and Russia and I will never monger in the USA.

The price differs from place to place. The price is not fixed in the clubs, all depends on how good you are at negotiation and how much Portuguese you speak.

As for clinicas, it is better to refer to Altobomgosto. He knows everything about clinicas, just send him a pm, I am sure he will be glad to reply to your questions.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2160565]I know people say RTFF, but I wish there was just some place where it is all summarized. Thailand, Russia, Germany, etc all have different "formats". In perusing the last few days Brazil posts it looks like high end club scene would be good. Scandallo, Bomboa, Millenium, Photo?

Can someone experienced give me the general lay of the land and thoughts on how those (or other) options differ, plus costs in USD if you have it.

P.S. Speak not one word of Portuguese.

Thanks a bunch!

P.S. If you want London, US, Spain, Russia, Germany, Thailand, Japan, Korea, China tips just let me know![/QUOTE]Sao Paulo is one of the easiest mongering areas I have been to. It is straight forward and foolproof. Only real problems might occur while using dating apps or calling from ads. Not to say you can't have problems but it is less likely.

Clinicas or Prives. I am not even sure what the difference is supposed to be both seem to operate the same way. At least the ones I have been to.

Don't have the link handy but get the map that you can find on this forum. You probably have to go back 10 pages or so. Best to take an uber to them. Real cheap and easy.

These are open in the daytime and evening. Prices range from 150 to about 250 for an hour depending on the place. There is no negotiating except for extras like anal or CIM if the girl doesn't include it. You come into these places that look like doctor offices. Sit down on a couch and the receptionist will call the girls. The girls will present themselves. The hardest part is remembering the name of the one you want. Especially since they pronounce there names with a Portuguese accent. So even a common name in your country may sound completely different.

You then pick the girl and go to the room with her. Shower do the deed and leave. For an hour you get 2 pops. If you choose half an hour 1 pop. As long as you get it done in the allotted time. The phone will buzz when your time is up in most places. Except for the possible extras which you pay directly to the girl in cash, you pay at the receptionist by cash or CC with a fee.

Most places have loyalty cards. If you are there for a while and will return several times I recommend it. Tangara for us non VIPs is buy 5 get one half price. In others it can be buy 4 get one free. This pretty much nullifies the difference in prices if you go enough. Though some places make you post your experience on one of the Brazil forums to get this deal. Posting also gets you better prices at some places.

Hopefully that helps. I will be back in 10 days. Can't wait.

Thanks guys for info on the clinica. I did go back and RTFF and found Rice Rockets detailed reports on Scandallo and Bomboa. Doubt I could keep it with him, but I almost want to pay for a trip to Brazil with him, he's such an animal. And great reports. Thanks RR.

I will probably try both Clinicas and clubs like Scandallo. I admit I do kinda like the club scene where you mix partying with sex after. Both Thailand and Russia are sort of this way and I've liked that format. Then again, the pure lineup and choose has its merits too. Damn, I think I will like Brazil!

I will be in SP and Campinas in April 25th through 29th. I am wondering to spend my mongering in SP or go to Fazendinha near Campinas. I heard high about the FD. Is it really worth spending 1 K there are I can have 4 here in clinica's in SP?

Hey fellas, I'm a newbie here and just on holiday for a few more days. I've made some reports in the Thai, Indo, and Cambodian forums if anyone is interested in my pedigree.

Just wanted to point out a gal that took me for a ride tonight (in both the good and the bad ways). A gal named 'Grace' at Casarao came up to me in the smoking area. She was very friendly, about 155 cm, and had those come hither eyes that my drunken brain couldn't resist. Again, I'm a newbie and was incredibly wasted, so all of what occurred is definitely my fault -- I just want folks to be aware so the same thing doesn't happen to them. I ended up paying 400 (cash) for Grace + 80 (cash) for the room. After the deeds were done, she wanted another drink, so I gave her my card. I was very aware that I'd only put about 80 reais on my card up to this point and we had such a good vibe, so I thought very little about it. As I left the club, I was hit with a 480 reais bill. As I looked at the timestamps, I could see most of it occurred when I had given Grace my card. I knew I had no leg to stand on (and my post-coital drunken state precluded any attempts at negotiation), so I grumpily paid and left.

Long story short -- excellent sex, but not worth roughly 1000 reais.

Once again, I'm totally aware that I should not allow myself to be in a situation to be taken advantage of -- just trying to remind others of that fact.

[QUOTE=Biffduff;2162961]Hey fellas, I'm a newbie here and just on holiday for a few more days. I've made some reports in the Thai, Indo, and Cambodian forums if anyone is interested in my pedigree.

Just wanted to point out a gal that took me for a ride tonight (in both the good and the bad ways). A gal named 'Grace' at Casarao came up to me in the smoking area. She was very friendly, about 155 cm, and had those come hither eyes that my drunken brain couldn't resist. Again, I'm a newbie and was incredibly wasted, so all of what occurred is definitely my fault -- I just want folks to be aware so the same thing doesn't happen to them. I ended up paying 400 (cash) for Grace + 80 (cash) for the room. After the deeds were done, she wanted another drink, so I gave her my card. I was very aware that I'd only put about 80 reais on my card up to this point and we had such a good vibe, so I thought very little about it. As I left the club, I was hit with a 480 reais bill. As I looked at the timestamps, I could see most of it occurred when I had given Grace my card. I knew I had no leg to stand on (and my post-coital drunken state precluded any attempts at negotiation), so I grumpily paid and left.

Long story short -- excellent sex, but not worth roughly 1000 reais.

Once again, I'm totally aware that I should not allow myself to be in a situation to be taken advantage of -- just trying to remind others of that fact.[/QUOTE]Advice: Never be dump and leave your card with any hooker.

[QUOTE=Biffduff;2162961]Hey fellas, I'm a newbie here and just on holiday for a few more days. I've made some reports in the Thai, Indo, and Cambodian forums if anyone is interested in my pedigree.

Just wanted to point out a gal that took me for a ride tonight (in both the good and the bad ways). A gal named 'Grace' at Casarao came up to me in the smoking area. She was very friendly, about 155 cm, and had those come hither eyes that my drunken brain couldn't resist. Again, I'm a newbie and was incredibly wasted, so all of what occurred is definitely my fault -- I just want folks to be aware so the same thing doesn't happen to them. I ended up paying 400 (cash) for Grace + 80 (cash) for the room. After the deeds were done, she wanted another drink, so I gave her my card. I was very aware that I'd only put about 80 reais on my card up to this point and we had such a good vibe, so I thought very little about it. As I left the club, I was hit with a 480 reais bill. As I looked at the timestamps, I could see most of it occurred when I had given Grace my card. I knew I had no leg to stand on (and my post-coital drunken state precluded any attempts at negotiation), so I grumpily paid and left.

Long story short -- excellent sex, but not worth roughly 1000 reais.

Once again, I'm totally aware that I should not allow myself to be in a situation to be taken advantage of -- just trying to remind others of that fact.[/QUOTE]Don't worry. If you were in Macau you would have paid more money for less spectacular sex.