Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1127955]If Ehunter and friend are reasonably fit they might like the 27 waterfalls outing at Damajagua. 45 minutes bus ride from Puerto Plata. Don't go if you are out of condition or it is or has been raining appreciably, though. It is a trip you can do independently. You don't need to be in a party but you will need to hire a guide once there. And check out your clothing / footwear needs before you go as you will get seriously wet.[/QUOTE]They are a real amazing site to see and go if you can! If I told you I rode my scooter ALL THE WAY from Sosua to the waterfalls, would you believe me? It was a real adventure while stopping at Burger King at the midway point.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1127982]They are a real amazing site to see and go if you can! If I told you I rode my scooter ALL THE WAY from Sosua to the waterfalls, would you believe me? It was a real adventure while stopping at Burger King at the midway point.[/QUOTE]For you guys that rent scooters.

Suppose you do drive to the waterfalls and make a trip up stream with a guide. Your scooter will be sitting there the whole time. How do you know it will be there when you get back? Do the locals treat it as taboo to rip off a scooter that does not belong to them?

How much do you pay for scooter rental and do you buy insurance? It is out of vogue to wear helmets, right? LOL

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1127954]I have always understood this Brugal place is just a bottling and storage facility so not really much to see. Would someone who has actually visited there please conform or otherwise. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Your right Charles.

From what I can understand the main factory is located in the Santa Domingo area. The finished rum is shipped to Puerto Plata in wooden barrels and they bottle it there.

Tour is very short and includes a video to explain the process. Free tour and tasting. Some people wrote up the details here: [url]http://www.igougo.com/review-r1374783-Short_Sweet_[/url]%28or_Rummy%29. Html

[QUOTE=Ehunter;1128034]Do the locals treat it as taboo to rip off a scooter that does not belong to them?[/QUOTE]No, they treat as taboo NOT to steal it.

The waterfalls is a nice trip. It is not for everyone as it is very physical. Bring some water, snacks and proper footwear. BB's has info. And also Maria (she sells clothes to the girls at BB's) set me up with her son who was a guide there at the time. I made as far as #17 before it was getting to late. Once you get there it is a bit of a hike to the start of the falls and there were lots of locals as it was the weekend.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1128034]For you guys that rent scooters.

Suppose you do drive to the waterfalls and make a trip up stream with a guide. Your scooter will be sitting there the whole time. How do you know it will be there when you get back? Do the locals treat it as taboo to rip off a scooter that does not belong to them?

How much do you pay for scooter rental and do you buy insurance? It is out of vogue to wear helmets, right? LOL[/QUOTE]I've been renting sccoters there for 10yrs without incident but within the last 3yrs I have been more careful with it for my motoconcho good friend has told me that the ladrones have become more brazen and are lifting and swiping scooters and motos with more frequency. When I went to the Falls, there are guys there who sit there all day who I tipped 50 pesos to watch my scooter. If I hit classicos or club 59 I park up the hill a little from the stands where they make the fried meat, in front of "NYC SUBS, lol my ass NYC SUBS" and my Haitian guy will watch it all night for me for 100 pesos. If I hit the beach the guys there again will watch it for me for 50 pesos. Hey guys I'd rather be safe than sorry, especially when they hold on to your passport and make you sign a 15, 000 peso lost or stolen scooter waiiver.

[QUOTE=Traveler04;1128089]The waterfalls is a nice trip. It is not for everyone as it is very physical. Bring some water, snacks and proper footwear. BB's has info. And also Maria (she sells clothes to the girls at BB's) set me up with her son who was a guide there at the time. I made as far as #17 before it was getting to late. Once you get there it is a bit of a hike to the start of the falls and there were lots of locals as it was the weekend.[/QUOTE]I never bothered to check this out though I had a car few times at my disposal. The youtube video looks like a lot of fun. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqzzf0-Wf68[/url]

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1128092]I've been renting sccoters there for 10yrs without incident but within the last 3yrs I have been more careful with it for my motoconcho good friend has told me that the ladrones have become more brazen and are lifting and swiping scooters and motos with more frequency. When I went to the Falls, there are guys there who sit there all day who I tipped 50 pesos to watch my scooter. If I hit classicos or club 59 I park up the hill a little from the stands where they make the fried meat, in front of "NYC SUBS, lol my ass NYC SUBS" and my Haitian guy will watch it all night for me for 100 pesos. If I hit the beach the guys there again will watch it for me for 50 pesos. Hey guys I'd rather be safe than sorry, especially when they hold on to your passport and make you sign a 15, 000 peso lost or stolen scooter waiiver.[/QUOTE]My DR regular had her scooter stolen a couple months ago. She was driving down one of the dirt roads near her "house" and a guy knocked her off the damn thing as she was moving. They got the scooter, what little money she had and her cedula. She tried to fight them off and they gave her a hell of a beating. Poverty breeds desperation it's that simple.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1128034]For you guys that rent scooters.

Suppose you do drive to the waterfalls and make a trip up stream with a guide. Your scooter will be sitting there the whole time. How do you know it will be there when you get back? Do the locals treat it as taboo to rip off a scooter that does not belong to them?

How much do you pay for scooter rental and do you buy insurance? It is out of vogue to wear helmets, right? LOL[/QUOTE]If you ride in Puerto Plata wear a helmet or you will get a ticket, the police are always somewhere on one of the main roads giving out tickets to the hoards of people that don't wear helmets.

Just checking in with all of you guys to see if anyone is going to be staying in sosua March 16th thru the 20th? It will be my first time in DR, but I'm looking forward to having a great time and banging lots of beautiful women. At least I'm hoping so; What do you guys think? I have been reading all this crap about the crack downs in Sosua, but I'm not going to let that ruin my vacation plans. I have been waiting for this trip for a few months now, and I'm always checking this board to get a update on the conditions in Sosua.

If anyone is going to be there while I'm there I would love to meet up for a drink. Like I said this is my first time there and I'm not real sure on what to expect. I will be traveling alone, but I'm not really concerned about to many things, since the previous members on this board have given some very good information on what to be aware and such.

At first I was going to stay at Hotel Casa Cayene, then decided on Europa, but in the end I decided to finalize and confirm a reservation Hotel D' Piero, which I guess is located near passions. I'm younger so I really don't mind walking accross town to party and have fun. Any more info you guys can give me would be great. I decided on hotel D'piero because he had great prices and they will pick you up and take you back to the airport for free, which I thought was cool. That would save me the steep prices of the cab drivers there. I will be sure to give him a nice tip though.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1128092]I've been renting sccoters there for 10yrs without incident but within the last 3yrs I have been more careful with it for my motoconcho good friend has told me that the ladrones have become more brazen and are lifting and swiping scooters and motos with more frequency. When I went to the Falls, there are guys there who sit there all day who I tipped 50 pesos to watch my scooter. If I hit classicos or club 59 I park up the hill a little from the stands where they make the fried meat, in front of "NYC SUBS, lol my ass NYC SUBS" and my Haitian guy will watch it all night for me for 100 pesos. If I hit the beach the guys there again will watch it for me for 50 pesos. Hey guys I'd rather be safe than sorry, especially when they hold on to your passport and make you sign a 15, 000 peso lost or stolen scooter waiiver.[/QUOTE]Anyone have the YouTube link for Big Heav riding the scooter in Sosua? That link needs to be posted every so often.

[QUOTE=Bq Ribs;1128138]Anyone have the YouTube link for Big Heav riding the scooter in Sosua? That link needs to be posted every so often.[/QUOTE]Big heavy? Sheeettt, All you want of that in Sosua. Dominicans and Gringos but I would like to see that as well if its funny.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1128155]Big heavy? Sheeettt, All you want of that in Sosua. Dominicans and Gringos but I would like to see that as well if its funny.[/QUOTE]I hope someone has the link as it really is one funny video. I tried searching YouTube with no luck. The guy's nickname is either big heav or big heavy.

I came back to edit my post. Here is the link Miami and tell me what you think.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaGvY25bBXU&feature=player_embedded[/url]

[QUOTE=Bq Ribs;1128157][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaGvY25bBXU&feature=player_embedded[/url][/QUOTE]I crack up for hours watching this video.

I like the way he puts on his little-red helmet, and then looks in the bikes rear view mirror to make sure he is looking good.

Then when he is good and satisfied everything is cool. Whamo! He does a header over the front of the bike!

An utter classic!

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1128164]I crack up for hours watching this video.

I like the way he puts on his little-red helmet, and then looks in the bikes rear view mirror to make sure he is looking good.

Then when he is good and satisfied everything is cool. Whamo! He does a header over the front of the bike!

An utter classic! [/QUOTE]I love this, my boy is the same size! Taking him to D. R. in April.

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[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1128034]For you guys that rent scooters.

How much do you pay for scooter rental and do you buy insurance? It is out of vogue to wear helmets, right? LOL[/QUOTE]I rented a scooter once in Sosua before I realized what a big ripoff it was. $35 / day to rent a damn scooter (here in Thailand it is only $5) while it's only $23 / day to rent a car? The scooter was almost more than I was paying to stay at the Europa.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1128260]I rented a scooter once in Sosua before I realized what a big ripoff it was. $35 / day to rent a damn scooter (here in Thailand it is only $5) while it's only $23 / day to rent a car? The scooter was almost more than I was paying to stay at the Europa.[/QUOTE]I just googled this up. If you don't mind the one time 10 miles to Caberette, a shop called Easy Rider rents:

YAMAHA DT 125 (15 HP. 6 gears) @$25, 00 / day or $140 / wk.

YAMAHA XTZ 125 (12. 5 HP. 5 gears) @$25, 00 / day or $140 / wk (4-stroke)

YAMAHA Scooter BWS 100 (10 HP automatic) @15, 00 / day or $90 / wk.

They also say longer time periods get better discounts. All provide free helmets, taxes included.

[url]http://www.activecabarete.com/easyrider[/url]

I will be including this list inside the girl friendly Hotels thread that I update every once in awhile.

If you can think of things to add, links, or other info to include, please post or inbox.

[url]http://img11.mediafire.com/a25c05d5a92787252fde32a1bb63af8c5f90c91728f01a6ddc1426c95fdfcffb6g.jpg[/url]

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1128437]I just googled this up. If you don't mind the one time 10 miles to Caberette, a shop called Easy Rider rents:

YAMAHA DT 125 (15 HP. 6 gears) @$25, 00 / day or $140 / wk.

YAMAHA XTZ 125 (12. 5 HP. 5 gears) @$25, 00 / day or $140 / wk (4-stroke)

YAMAHA Scooter BWS 100 (10 HP automatic) @15, 00 / day or $90 / wk.

They also say longer time periods get better discounts. All provide free helmets, taxes included.

[url]http://www.activecabarete.com/easyrider[/url][/QUOTE]$20 a day at Cindy next door to Europa. No problems YET, but they always give me Pasolas with enough gas just to make it up the hill to the bomba!

I got to say I'm ashamed that I enjoyed that video so much. I've been around to see that scene played out at least four times with various scooters and crotch rockets. Always in the same place.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1128164]I crack up for hours watching this video.

I like the way he puts on his little-red helmet, and then looks in the bikes rear view mirror to make sure he is looking good.

Then when he is good and satisfied everything is cool. Whamo! He does a header over the front of the bike!

An utter classic! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29; 1128127]Just checking in with all of you guys to see if anyone is going to be staying in sosua March 16th thru the 20th? It will be my first time in DR, but I'm looking forward to having a great time and banging lots of beautiful women. At least I'm hoping so; What do you guys think? I have been reading all this crap about the crack downs in Sosua, but I'm not going to let that ruin my vacation plans. I have been waiting for this trip for a few months now, and I'm always checking this board to get a update on the conditions in Sosua.

If anyone is going to be there while I'm there I would love to meet up for a drink. Like I said this is my first time there and I'm not real sure on what to expect. I will be traveling alone, but I'm not really concerned about to many things, since the previous members on this board have given some very good information on what to be aware and such.

At first I was going to stay at Hotel Casa Cayene, then decided on Europa, but in the end I decided to finalize and confirm a reservation Hotel D' Piero, which I guess is located near passions. I'm younger so I really don't mind walking accross town to party and have fun. Any more info you guys can give me would be great. I decided on hotel D'piero because he had great prices and they will pick you up and take you back to the airport for free, which I thought was cool. That would save me the steep prices of the cab drivers there. I will be sure to give him a nice tip though.[/QUOTE]I stayed there my last trip two months ago when New Gardens screwed up my reservations. Its off the beaten path but a great choice. Mostly italian and very private you will enjoy it. I'm in Sosua on the 17th so first drinks are on you. You will have a good time in the new Sosua. Anyone thinking about a trip to Sosua better book now, ticket prices will increase. Coolie put Sade pic down and quit crying and book your trip dammit LOL.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29; 1128127]Just checking in with all of you guys to see if anyone is going to be staying in sosua March 16th thru the 20th? It will be my first time in DR, but I'm looking forward to having a great time and banging lots of beautiful women. At least I'm hoping so; What do you guys think? I have been reading all this crap about the crack downs in Sosua, but I'm not going to let that ruin my vacation plans. I have been waiting for this trip for a few months now, and I'm always checking this board to get a update on the conditions in Sosua.

If anyone is going to be there while I'm there I would love to meet up for a drink. Like I said this is my first time there and I'm not real sure on what to expect. I will be traveling alone, but I'm not really concerned about to many things, since the previous members on this board have given some very good information on what to be aware and such.

At first I was going to stay at Hotel Casa Cayene, then decided on Europa, but in the end I decided to finalize and confirm a reservation Hotel D' Piero, which I guess is located near passions. I'm younger so I really don't mind walking accross town to party and have fun. Any more info you guys can give me would be great. I decided on hotel D'piero because he had great prices and they will pick you up and take you back to the airport for free, which I thought was cool. That would save me the steep prices of the cab drivers there. I will be sure to give him a nice tip though. [/QUOTE]I'm going on March 24. I am going to miss you. Let us know what the scene is when you get down there

Book

[QUOTE=Book7777; 1128758]I'm going on March 24. I am going to miss you. Let us know what the scene is when you get down there

Book[/QUOTE]I will be sure to report everyday.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1128707]I stayed there my last trip two months ago when New Gardens screwed up my reservations. Its off the beaten path but a great choice. Mostly italian and very private you will enjoy it. I'm in Sosua on the 17th so first drinks are on you. You will have a good time in the new Sosua. Anyone thinking about a trip to Sosua better book now, ticket prices will increase. Coolie put Sade pic down and quit crying and book your trip dammit LOL.[/QUOTE]Mr Gogo Where are you going to be staying? We should meet up for some drinks. I'm at D' piero. If you want to meet up somewhere just name the time and place and I'll find it. I'm sure you can't miss me. I will be the guy that is white as snow and sweating my balls off. LOL. Its cold here in the land of the superbowl winners.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1128867]Mr Gogo Where are you going to be staying? We should meet up for some drinks. I'm at D' piero. If you want to meet up somewhere just name the time and place and I'll find it. I'm sure you can't miss me. I will be the guy that is white as snow and sweating my balls off. LOL. Its cold here in the land of the superbowl winners.[/QUOTE]Tried to pm but you arent able to recieve. Ill stop by and leave my number with Willie that does all the work there, he used to work at newgardens. D, piero has a pretty decent breakfast.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1128953]Tried to pm but you arent able to recieve. Ill stop by and leave my number with Willie that does all the work there, he used to work at newgardens. D, piero has a pretty decent breakfast.[/QUOTE]Sounds good. I will have to track down to cell phone place so I can call you. I don't think my phone will work there. Look forward to seing you there. I will look for Willie. Let him know its for Josh H.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1129364]Sounds good. I will have to track down to cell phone place so I can call you. I don't think my phone will work there. Look forward to seing you there. I will look for Willie. Let him know its for Josh H.[/QUOTE]Once you arrive usually the guys walk around selling new phones for less than 500 pesos with100 minutes already loaded up and you just add minutes when needed.

Also Willie is the Dominican dude that does the cooking, bartending, cleaning etc. Sometimes the Italian guys have their families there so be kind of low key.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1128437]I just googled this up. If you don't mind the one time 10 miles to Caberette, a shop called Easy Rider rents:

YAMAHA DT 125 (15 HP. 6 gears) @$25, 00 / day or $140 / wk.

YAMAHA XTZ 125 (12. 5 HP. 5 gears) @$25, 00 / day or $140 / wk (4-stroke)

YAMAHA Scooter BWS 100 (10 HP automatic) @15, 00 / day or $90 / wk.

They also say longer time periods get better discounts. All provide free helmets, taxes included.

[url]http://www.activecabarete.com/easyrider[/url][/QUOTE]I can get you a 200cc dirt-bike with insurance and helmet for 600 Pesos. That's 16 USD.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1129385]Once you arrive usually the guys walk around selling new phones for less than 500 pesos with100 minutes already loaded up and you just add minutes when needed.

Also Willie is the Dominican dude that does the cooking, bartending, cleaning etc. Sometimes the Italian guys have their families there so be kind of low key.[/QUOTE]Ok cool. I will be sure to be low key. I will pick up a phone when I get there. What time are you ariving in sosua? I will find Wille and let him know you will be leaving your number for me. If I grab a phone by then I will leave my number with him too, Since I will be there a day before you. See you then! How are the beaches there? And do you plan on traveling to other parts of DR?

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1129746]Ok cool. I will be sure to be low key. I will pick up a phone when I get there. What time are you ariving in sosua? I will find Wille and let him know you will be leaving your number for me. If I grab a phone by then I will leave my number with him too, Since I will be there a day before you. See you then! How are the beaches there? And do you plan on traveling to other parts of DR?[/QUOTE]don't want to give to much personal info here, but we will hang out. Also there are two bikini shows that weekend. One is at newgardens the other is at black beards. I have a car so you are welcome to join me and my wingman. I wish you had pm so I could tell you about some secret spots before I arrive. See you soon.

[QUOTE=Ficken500;1129720]I can get you a 200cc dirt-bike with insurance and helmet for 600 Pesos. That's 16 USD.[/QUOTE]Do you have a shop you would like to promote? If so provide an address, phone and supply competing prices for what I have already listed.

If you do this I'll include you on the list of activities that I will post up a little later. Thanks.

The guys here would love it if businesses gave out ISG discount pricing.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1129809]don't want to give to much personal info here, but we will hang out. Also there are two bikini shows that weekend. One is at newgardens the other is at black beards. I have a car so you are welcome to join me and my wingman. I wish you had pm so I could tell you about some secret spots before I arrive. See you soon.[/QUOTE]Yeah that would be awesome. I would love to go with you guys. I'm going to upgrade my memebership here right now so I should have a pm then.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1129809]don't want to give to much personal info here, but we will hang out. Also there are two bikini shows that weekend. One is at newgardens the other is at black beards. I have a car so you are welcome to join me and my wingman. I wish you had pm so I could tell you about some secret spots before I arrive. See you soon.[/QUOTE]I just upgraded. Says it will be activated within 24 hours. Where do I go to use the pm and to add friends.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1130010]I just upgraded. Says it will be activated within 24 hours. Where do I go to use the pm and to add friends.[/QUOTE]Hey, when is the new garden bikini contest?

Me and my two homies stay krunk, here on the Westcoast, all day, everyday.

Deepmmpactt my name aka El Caballo Negro, I'm a movement there in Sousa.

We would love to buy you guy a beer, and just kick it, so pump yo brakes!

We, will arrive at new gardens, in Match 23 thru 30, ill be that 6ft3 285,

Brother, thats wrecking the putaz. LOL hopefully we can hook up, at the gardens.

Bikini conttest Ronnie. C my name and were staying the old wing.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1127801]Geolopes.

The Chunky and Skinny team in November; Chunky just about killed me.

Skinny is now solo and works hard. Picture is with Latino manager, Little Dancer, and happy me in January.

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[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1130157]Hey, when is the new garden bikini contest?

Me and my two homies stay krunk, here on the Westcoast, all day, everyday.

Deepmmpactt my name aka El Caballo Negro, I'm a movement there in Sousa.

We would love to buy you guy a beer, and just kick it, so pump yo brakes!

We, will arrive at new gardens, in Match 23 thru 30, ill be that 6ft3 285,

Brother, thats wrecking the putaz. LOL hopefully we can hook up, at the gardens.

Bikini conttest Ronnie. C my name and were staying the old wing. [/QUOTE]I will be there the 16th thru the 20th. I will be gone when you guys get there. Also I think you will miss the ng contest.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmM7_XY2DmQ[/url]

I think Brazil wins this one. Hands down. Ayyyyyyy Dios Mio.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1130382]I will be there the 16th thru the 20th. I will be gone when you guys get there. Also I think you will miss the ng contest.[/QUOTE]First time I hear about NG contest. Any more info?

[QUOTE=Mngweco;1130478]First time I hear about NG contest. Any more info?[/QUOTE]here's video I posted in my forum newYears of the Black Beards bikini contest I attended. Give me a few minutes I think I have one from NewGarden also.

[QUOTE=Mngweco;1130478]First time I hear about NG contest. Any more info?[/QUOTE]Got it. Pulled it from back in the Gogo forum (sorry guys I haven't been updating) it has New gardens at the end.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtD4kzDMsg8[/url]

[QUOTE=Ficken500;1129720]I can get you a 200cc dirt-bike with insurance and helmet for 600 Pesos. That's 16 USD.[/QUOTE]Where can you get a bike for this kind of money? The guys across from New Garden want $35 USA for a 125cc mini crotch rocket. We got for 1000 peso because we took 3 bikes, this is for 24 hrs BTW.

[QUOTE=Mngweco;1130478]First time I hear about NG contest. Any more info?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure on the details. All I know is that it is coming up. Not this weekend, but next weekend. I will be going to it though, so I will be sure to make a report on it.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1130671]I'm not sure on the details. All I know is that it is coming up. Not this weekend, but next weekend. I will be going to it though, so I will be sure to make a report on it.[/QUOTE]I will split my time between BB`s and Sosua and I am very interested in both events

[QUOTE=Mngweco;1130675]I will split my time between BB`s and Sosua and I am very interested in both events[/QUOTE]I will be attending both events. I'm meeting up with some people from ISG. It will be my first time in sosua, and in the DR. I'm lookiing forward to it though. I have been checking out the pics of the chicas and a lot of them are very sexy. I can't wait to get there. What day do you arrive in Sosua?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1129809]don't want to give to much personal info here, but we will hang out. Also there are two bikini shows that weekend. One is at newgardens the other is at black beards. I have a car so you are welcome to join me and my wingman. I wish you had pm so I could tell you about some secret spots before I arrive. See you soon.[/QUOTE]Hey Mr. Gogo,

My friend and I are coming on March 24. Toronto boys.

How long you going to stay,

I have Thai wife. Maybe we can trade some Thai stories.

Book

[QUOTE=Book7777; 1130796]Hey Mr. Gogo,

My friend and I are coming on March 24. Toronto boys.

How long you going to stay,

I have Thai wife. Maybe we can trade some Thai stories.

Book[/QUOTE]Man I would love to talk to you. But I might not be there then but my wing man and I are keeping the option open of extending our trip. My Thai girl and I are having problems about her insecurities with me and black women. If a Black girl says Hello, to me she thinks I'm banging her. On the flip side I had to check a Black girl because she called me weak for banging a Thai girl. I told her "you don't even have a man"" you wear a different color wig every two days" and "you can't even give the pussy away". Needless to say we almost came to blows, but they got to know to stay the fuck out of my buisiness.

[QUOTE=Mngweco;1130675]I will split my time between BB`s and Sosua and I am very interested in both events[/QUOTE]This is the note I got from Jenny at New Garden regarding the contest:

We are planning also a Contest / Party for that weekend (March. 19th)

"Miss New Garden March 2011". Drinks and BBQ costs $20. 00.

Not sure if it clashes with the BB contest.

I've been a long-time lurker who has enjoyed your posts and would love to be able to meet. Unfortunately, I do not have PM and am currently trying to get Jackson to expedite my PM facilities. About time I stopped freeloading!

It will be my sixth trip to the DR which has replaced Bangkok / Pattaya as my primary mongering destination after literally decades of punting in the LOS I can relate to dealing with the Thai drama queens who will threaten to slash their wrists at every perceived slight.

IMHO, the DR chicas a lot closer to to the scene in India which I consider the holy grail of mongering.

I'll be at the New Garden from March 08 thru March 29. If I can't get the PM on time, please look for a lost, lonely E. Indian dude and come over and say Hi

[QUOTE=Shockman; 1131011]This is the note I got from Jenny at New Garden regarding the contest:

We are planning also a Contest / Party for that weekend (March. 19th)

"Miss New Garden March 2011". Drinks and BBQ costs $20. 00.

Not sure if it clashes with the BB contest.[/QUOTE]Nope, doesn't clash. BB bikini contest March 26.

[QUOTE=Shockman; 1131055]I've been a long-time lurker who has enjoyed your posts and would love to be able to meet. Unfortunately, I do not have PM and am currently trying to get Jackson to expedite my PM facilities. About time I stopped freeloading!

It will be my sixth trip to the DR which has replaced Bangkok / Pattaya as my primary mongering destination after literally decades of punting in the LOS I can relate to dealing with the Thai drama queens who will threaten to slash their wrists at every perceived slight.

IMHO, the DR chicas a lot closer to to the scene in India which I consider the holy grail of mongering.

I'll be at the New Garden from March 08 thru March 29. If I can't get the PM ouon time, please look for a lost, lonely E. Indian dude and come over and say Hi[/QUOTE]When she gets mad she says" I will kill you and eat you". LMAO.

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1131099]Nope, doesn't clash. BB bikini contest March 26.[/QUOTE]Actually there is a BB contest every Saturday, so it probably does clash.

[QUOTE=WestFLA;1131226]Actually there is a BB contest every Saturday, so it probably does clash.[/QUOTE]Actually it is every other Saturday

[QUOTE=TeamHorny;1131258]Actually it is every other Saturday[/QUOTE][url]Http://img141.imageshack.us/f/0311events.jpg/[/url]

[QUOTE=WestFLA;1131226]Actually there is a BB contest every Saturday, so it probably does clash.[/QUOTE]That's why I posted date of BB bikini contest. March 26! There is a Miss Galaxy / world whatever the name is contest on March 19! They do every other at BB.

Get your facts straight before useless posts. WestFla! LOL

[QUOTE=TeamHorny;1131258]Actually it is every other Saturday[/QUOTE]They are now running the Bikini contest one week, and the "miss universe" contest the next, alternating between the two. The Bikini contest at BB is on the 12th and the Miss Universe is on the 19th for March during the period we are discussing. Hope this clears it up.

I'll be back in Sosua on the 10th of April for a few days. Need my fix. Any special events at new garden? I checked the BB site and everything happens on Saturday far as contest goes.

[QUOTE=Shockman; 1131055]I've been a long-time lurker who has enjoyed your posts and would love to be able to meet. Unfortunately, I do not have PM and am currently trying to get Jackson to expedite my PM facilities. About time I stopped freeloading!

It will be my sixth trip to the DR which has replaced Bangkok / Pattaya as my primary mongering destination after literally decades of punting in the LOS I can relate to dealing with the Thai drama queens who will threaten to slash their wrists at every perceived slight.

IMHO, the DR chicas a lot closer to to the scene in India which I consider the holy grail of mongering.

I'll be at the New Garden from March 08 thru March 29. If I can't get the PM on time, please look for a lost, lonely E. Indian dude and come over and say Hi[/QUOTE]I will be in sosua on the 16th. I will stop in there and say Hello. We will have a drink.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1131455]I will be in sosua on the 16th. I will stop in there and say Hello. We will have a drink.[/QUOTE]Wonderful!

I'll look forward to meeting ya.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1131455]I will be in sosua on the 16th. I will stop in there and say Hello. We will have a drink.[/QUOTE]And we will buy your second drink as well, my name is Deepmmpactt.

Ill be that 6ft3 285lbs, black horse, there by the restraunt. LOL!

[QUOTE=Forcesteeler; 1131579]I was there for the Twins All White Party in June 2010, Over 200+ Chicas.

Here's Footage.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EjlDS67oQQ[/url]

Biggest Party in the Sousa. Pm for 2011 Details[/QUOTE]Hi. I will be in Sosua June 3rd thru 12th. Can you share when and where this party is? Thanks a million.

Sosua, January 2010. First time on a mongering expedition, so me and my wingman got off of the plane looking like fresh fish. We had made some of the classic newbie mistakes, and were still blissfully unaware of what was to come. I remember standing on the curb at the airport, wondering how the hell we were going to get to the hotel, and was lucky enough to get spotted by a hardcore monger from the states who had also just gotten to the airport. He was greeted by 5 dominicanas (a couple of which were smoking hot) and gave a quick rundown of how easy it was to get women in the DR. He offered to split a cab with us (including his min-harem that he said were 'mountain girls' and would fuck either of us for the price of a large pizza LOL). We rode to Casa Marina (mistake # 1) and checked in before proceeding to walk around Sosua. We were accosted almost immediately by women (the last of the good old Sosua days) but when we tried to take them back to Casa Marina we ran into the usual difficulty. We ended up not taking anyone that afternoon as we tried to figure out an alternative plan.

We rested up for the rest of the evening and eventually made our way to the spot Classicos that we had heard about. We weren't disappointed. I know you all remember your first experience there: loud music, wall to wall women grabbing you and fighting for your attention, feeling like a king. I was so overwhelmed that I took the first cute thing that came up to me at around 10:15 pm (mistake #2, but I was like a deer in headlights) and agreed to go to her place since my hotel was problematic. Afterwards, I asked her how much (mistake # 3 not negotiating up front) and she told me $80 (mistake #4 was not having changed my money to pesos as I walked around with $500US). Having no frame of reference and not knowing whether it was a good price, I agreed (and all I got was ST LOL). She saw the concerned look on my face and told me that if by the end of the trip I determined that she had overcharged me, she would give me a refund (and true to her word, she asked and offered when she saw me on my last night. Hooker with a heart of gold LOL, I let her keep it).

The next afternoon, my wingman and I were groped by 2 hardcore chicas while walking around town, the cutest of the 2 jumping all on my friend. We told them no, but might see them later. That night in Classico, I did see the one that I thought was cute, so made a move to get her (I thought I was doing something by beating my friend to the punch, what a rookie I was LOL) and once again I was off to the hourly room. Had we continued like this (with the hourly rental of these dingy little rooms) , I'm pretty sure that this would have been the end of our trips to the DR. But the god of Mongering smiled on us.

After getting rid of the girls, my wingman and I were hanging out in front of the Casino when four guys from the states walked out and saw us. They struck up conversation, and upon hearing all of the mistakes we had made, offered to take us under their wing and show us the ropes. They took us to get change, showed us the hotel that they were staying in (Terra Linda, a beautiful spot and we ended up renting a room there to go along with our rooms in Casa Marina) , and offered to take us to Black Beards the next day. To say that these guys saved the trip would be an understatement and is a big reason why I've been back 4 times in the last 12 months. They also schooled us on the importance of having a DR cell phone, the right way to negotiate price, and how much was too much to pay.

After their guidance, I am far from a novice (but won't claim expert yet either as my mongering game continues to evolve). My wingman and I shared the Terra Linda room, and had a ball the remainder of the trip, able to go to Casa Marina to eat and drink whenever we wanted while we fucked to our hearts content in Terra Linda. To you experienced mongers, never miss opportunities to share what you know with those new to the game. You never know when you can salvage a trip and impart wisdom.

[QUOTE=Sovereign; 1131980]Sosua, January 2010. First time on a mongering expedition, so me and my wingman got off of the plane looking like fresh fish. We had made some of the classic newbie mistakes, and were still blissfully unaware of what was to come. I remember standing on the curb at the airport, wondering how the hell we were going to get to the hotel, and was lucky enough to get spotted by a hardcore monger from the states who had also just gotten to the airport. He was greeted by 5 dominicanas (a couple of which were smoking hot) and gave a quick rundown of how easy it was to get women in the DR. He offered to split a cab with us (including his min-harem that he said were 'mountain girls' and would fuck either of us for the price of a large pizza LOL). We rode to Casa Marina (mistake # 1) and checked in before proceeding to walk around Sosua. We were accosted almost immediately by women (the last of the good old Sosua days) but when we tried to take them back to Casa Marina we ran into the usual difficulty. We ended up not taking anyone that afternoon as we tried to figure out an alternative plan.

We rested up for the rest of the evening and eventually made our way to the spot Classicos that we had heard about. We weren't disappointed. I know you all remember your first experience there: loud music, wall to wall women grabbing you and fighting for your attention, feeling like a king. I was so overwhelmed that I took the first cute thing that came up to me at around 10:15 pm (mistake #2, but I was like a deer in headlights) and agreed to go to her place since my hotel was problematic. Afterwards, I asked her how much (mistake # 3 not negotiating up front) and she told me $80 (mistake #4 was not having changed my money to pesos as I walked around with $500US). Having no frame of reference and not knowing whether it was a good price, I agreed (and all I got was ST LOL). She saw the concerned look on my face and told me that if by the end of the trip I determined that she had overcharged me, she would give me a refund (and true to her word, she asked and offered when she saw me on my last night. Hooker with a heart of gold LOL, I let her keep it).

The next afternoon, my wingman and I were groped by 2 hardcore chicas while walking around town, the cutest of the 2 jumping all on my friend. We told them no, but might see them later. That night in Classico, I did see the one that I thought was cute, so made a move to get her (I thought I was doing something by beating my friend to the punch, what a rookie I was LOL) and once again I was off to the hourly room. Had we continued like this (with the hourly rental of these dingy little rooms) , I'm pretty sure that this would have been the end of our trips to the DR. But the god of Mongering smiled on us.

After getting rid of the girls, my wingman and I were hanging out in front of the Casino when four guys from the states walked out and saw us. They struck up conversation, and upon hearing all of the mistakes we had made, offered to take us under their wing and show us the ropes. They took us to get change, showed us the hotel that they were staying in (Terra Linda, a beautiful spot and we ended up renting a room there to go along with our rooms in Casa Marina) , and offered to take us to Black Beards the next day. To say that these guys saved the trip would be an understatement and is a big reason why I've been back 4 times in the last 12 months. They also schooled us on the importance of having a DR cell phone, the right way to negotiate price, and how much was too much to pay.

After their guidance, I am far from a novice (but won't claim expert yet either as my mongering game continues to evolve). My wingman and I shared the Terra Linda room, and had a ball the remainder of the trip, able to go to Casa Marina to eat and drink whenever we wanted while we fucked to our hearts content in Terra Linda. To you experienced mongers, never miss opportunities to share what you know with those new to the game. You never know when you can salvage a trip and impart wisdom. [/QUOTE]Nice pictures and report Sovereign, I clearly remember banging many of your girls! On a very serious note you must take your time posting these pictures and be very careful to edit out your fellow mongers in the background and respect their privacy. Some of these people have family lives are executives, law enforcement, hold respectable positions and I'm sure would not want to have their pictures be posted on a monger board.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1131980]To you experienced mongers, never miss opportunities to share what you know with those new to the game. You never know when you can salvage a trip and impart wisdom.[/QUOTE]Never a problem with that, but most of the time all you run into are guys looking to reinvent the wheel.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1132011]Never a problem with that, but most of the time all you run into are guys looking to reinvent the wheel.[/QUOTE]Exactamente, you have to screen newbies to see if they want to learn. Some newbies no it all they think, some newbies just want to size YOU up, other newbies are unappreciative, etc.

This reminds me of a story.

One time I helped this guy I could see knew absolutely nothing about what he was doing.

I felt sorry for the guy trying to negotiate with the puta. Not long after I was sorry I assisted as the guy turned out to be a non-committal flake. I ended up dodging him for a few days even though he did leave with the girl. Funny enough, a few days later, the same puta spots me in the street. She came running over to me all pissed off. She starts chewing me out for steering her on to a flake and how he promised her extras left and right. I didn't understand how that transpired since he spoke no Spanish and she spoke no English, but I took her word for it.

So anyway, this puta wanted to hold me accountable because I referenced the guy as 'mi amigo'. Once I corrected her understanding that he was not 'mi amigo' but a 'conocido' she backed off.

The moral of the story for me was to not to always be such a nice guy to people I don't know anything about. I can't help the world and sooner than later, one or the other will turn out to a nut job. Because of this I tend to stay away from others at least until I can better gauge what there are like from a personal perspective.

Oh ya... and careful not to use the word "amigo" so loosely. ;-)

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1131996]On a very serious note you must take your time posting these pictures and be very careful to edit out your fellow mongers in the background and respect their privacy. Some of these people have family lives are executives, law enforcement, hold respectable positions and I'm sure would not want to have their pictures be posted on a monger board.[/QUOTE]Gotcha Miami. I thought I had selected pics that didn't have 'other folks' in them. Will be more careful and make use of the crop feature. Thanks for the heads up.

True MrGogo, but there are also some veteran mongers that don't have a newbies best interest at heart. The expert we met on the first trip wrangled a free ride fir him and his harem on the dime of me and my wingmen, despite his claims that he had a ton of money. Seeing as how everyone in the DR has a hustle, I tend to make new acquaintances cautiously, silently wondering if there is an anterior motive (ie, looking for free drinks or some scam). Folks need to be careful all around, yet still have a great time.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1132208]True MrGogo, but there are also some veteran mongers that don't have a newbies best interest at heart. The expert we met on the first trip wrangled a free ride fir him and his harem on the dime of me and my wingmen, despite his claims that he had a ton of money. Seeing as how everyone in the DR has a hustle, I tend to make new acquaintances cautiously, silently wondering if there is an anterior motive (ie, looking for free drinks or some scam). Folks need to be careful all around, yet still have a great time.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. Without getting into specifics. I on my own terms left another board because of such BS. But then again I do still have some good friends because of this site and others. Just like with the chicas, weed out the problem ones.

Hello, I am used in going to marrocco because I only speak french and english. Could you tell me if it's a problem with girls in Dominican republic?

[QUOTE=Gefone;1132410]Hello, I am used in going to marrocco because I only speak french and english. Could you tell me if it's a problem with girls in Dominican republic?[/QUOTE]Not a serious problem unless you go deep into the campo (countryside), which you are unlikely to do on your first visit to the DR (unless you are the adventurous outdoor type). You will have a better time for the same money the more Spanish you speak, though. If you go somewhere like Blackbeards or Passions, where the prices are set and the environment a known quantity, then it is not a problem at all. My first ever holiday here was two weeks at Blackbeards when I could not speak a word of Spanish (not a whole lot better now, I am ashamed to say) and I had the time of my life. I enjoyed it so much that I came back for another seven months (total) on seven further vacations and now live here permanently.

The other point is that a sizable minority of us actually prefer Haitian girls. Most of them speak enough French for you to get by and some speak it quite well because most schools in Haiti teach all subjects in French for all but the youngest students. And haitianas tend to be a bit cheaper on the average, so more fuck for your buck. Ten percent of the inhabitants of the DR are Haitian.

My Canadian wingman and myself will be staying at Terra Linda.

We arrive on March 24th.

If you stay the first and second are on me.

Where are staying in Sousa.

Let me know. Would love to have a many of drink.

Book

Hey guys, I took the plunge and had my first trip to Sosua, or the D. R. For that matter for 3 wild nights. 4 days is definitely NOT enough time but I won't have much time off until later in the year. Only + is I work for an airline so getting down there is free.

I posted a report in the USA forums but will copy and paste here. I had a HELL of a time and will definitely like to have a Presidente with one of you guys the next time I'm down there.

[QUOTE=Sovereign; 1131980]Sosua, January 2010. First time on a mongering expedition, so me and my wingman got off of the plane looking like fresh fish. We had made some of the classic newbie mistakes, and were still blissfully unaware of what was to come. I remember standing on the curb at the airport, wondering how the hell we were going to get to the hotel, and was lucky enough to get spotted by a hardcore monger from the states who had also just gotten to the airport. He was greeted by 5 dominicanas (a couple of which were smoking hot) and gave a quick rundown of how easy it was to get women in the DR. He offered to split a cab with us (including his min-harem that he said were 'mountain girls' and would fuck either of us for the price of a large pizza LOL). We rode to Casa Marina (mistake # 1) and checked in before proceeding to walk around Sosua. We were accosted almost immediately by women (the last of the good old Sosua days) but when we tried to take them back to Casa Marina we ran into the usual difficulty. We ended up not taking anyone that afternoon as we tried to figure out an alternative plan.

We rested up for the rest of the evening and eventually made our way to the spot Classicos that we had heard about. We weren't disappointed. I know you all remember your first experience there: loud music, wall to wall women grabbing you and fighting for your attention, feeling like a king. I was so overwhelmed that I took the first cute thing that came up to me at around 10:15 pm (mistake #2, but I was like a deer in headlights) and agreed to go to her place since my hotel was problematic. Afterwards, I asked her how much (mistake # 3 not negotiating up front) and she told me $80 (mistake #4 was not having changed my money to pesos as I walked around with $500US). Having no frame of reference and not knowing whether it was a good price, I agreed (and all I got was ST LOL). She saw the concerned look on my face and told me that if by the end of the trip I determined that she had overcharged me, she would give me a refund (and true to her word, she asked and offered when she saw me on my last night. Hooker with a heart of gold LOL, I let her keep it).

The next afternoon, my wingman and I were groped by 2 hardcore chicas while walking around town, the cutest of the 2 jumping all on my friend. We told them no, but might see them later. That night in Classico, I did see the one that I thought was cute, so made a move to get her (I thought I was doing something by beating my friend to the punch, what a rookie I was LOL) and once again I was off to the hourly room. Had we continued like this (with the hourly rental of these dingy little rooms) , I'm pretty sure that this would have been the end of our trips to the DR. But the god of Mongering smiled on us.

After getting rid of the girls, my wingman and I were hanging out in front of the Casino when four guys from the states walked out and saw us. They struck up conversation, and upon hearing all of the mistakes we had made, offered to take us under their wing and show us the ropes. They took us to get change, showed us the hotel that they were staying in (Terra Linda, a beautiful spot and we ended up renting a room there to go along with our rooms in Casa Marina) , and offered to take us to Black Beards the next day. To say that these guys saved the trip would be an understatement and is a big reason why I've been back 4 times in the last 12 months. They also schooled us on the importance of having a DR cell phone, the right way to negotiate price, and how much was too much to pay.

After their guidance, I am far from a novice (but won't claim expert yet either as my mongering game continues to evolve). My wingman and I shared the Terra Linda room, and had a ball the remainder of the trip, able to go to Casa Marina to eat and drink whenever we wanted while we fucked to our hearts content in Terra Linda. To you experienced mongers, never miss opportunities to share what you know with those new to the game. You never know when you can salvage a trip and impart wisdom. [/QUOTE]Sov,

I can appreciate you being a newbie and making mistakes, and I am really happy that you had a great time anyway. However, your trip could have easily gone the other way. The thought of a "fish" taking a girl to her home on his first night in a foreign land is downright frightening. Unless you know the chica well, never, never, NEVER do your business anywhere but your home turf, or at least a neutral site. The potential for danger-you getting robbed, sent to jail, maimed, killed- is increased by a thousandfold. I am telling you this out of concern, not to be a dick.

All of your mistakes could have easily been avoided with a little preparation. All information on chica-friendly places to stay; changing your dollars to pesos; personal safety; and negotiating with chicas can be found all over this and other boards. This is for you own security.

There are many, many experienced "good guys" that would be happy to help, but you have to ask and listen. The best idea for a newbie is to try to travel with an experienced person on their maiden voyage.

I'm sure everyone here appreciates your candor, and certainly the excellent photos you provided. Stay safe, and be smart!

Pat

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1131980]She saw the concerned look on my face and told me that if by the end of the trip I determined that she had overcharged me, she would give me a refund (and true to her word, she asked and offered when she saw me on my last night.).[/QUOTE]I have never heard that one before.

I am guessing it would not have been a "cash on demand" refund had you agreed to accept it. More like a "free pass" for the next time, in the hope of making you her regular.

If you stay longer. I will be at TL

My Canadian wingman and myself will be staying at Terra Linda.

We arrive on March 24th.

If you stay the first and second are on me.

Where are staying in Sousa.

Let me know. Would love to have a many of drink.

Book

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1131980]After their guidance, I am far from a novice (but won't claim expert yet either as my mongering game continues to evolve). My wingman and I shared the Terra Linda room, and had a ball the remainder of the trip, able to go to Casa Marina to eat and drink whenever we wanted while we fucked to our hearts content in Terra Linda. To you experienced mongers, never miss opportunities to share what you know with those new to the game. You never know when you can salvage a trip and impart wisdom.[/QUOTE]Good post. I started mongering in Sosua over 8 years ago. I traveled with guys who wanted to stay in all inclusive hotels. We stayed a bunch of times at Sosua Bay Hotel / Victorian House All Inclusive and Casa Marina Beach All Inclusive. On one of my first trips I used a room at the Calypso Hotel, short term rooms at a low price (down the block from the liquor store). I used the Calypso one time, over 8 years ago with a chica I met at High Caribe disco and the room at the calypso then, was nasty.

On one of my first trips to Sosua my wingman met a pretty chica at the High Caribe Disco (now closed, located outside the center of Sosua, I saw a cockfight there one night, roosters fighting). My wingman with the chica in red (Lucy was here name, one of the prettier chicas in Sosua back then) and I drove from high caribe to bologna bar for drinks at 2am. My wingman then took the car and drove to where the chica lived, I stayed at bologna bar. My wingman told me, the chica in red invited him inside where she lived, her three brothers in their 20's, where lounging half asleep in the living room. She walked past them with my wingman in tow, unlocked the door to her bedroom and proceeded to blast her stereo with some music. She got naked, my wingman stayed there for an hour and then drove back to bologna bar where I was waiting. On another night my wingman drove a chica to Charamicos and parked behind a hearse in the street and enjoyed the chica in the car.

When I stayed at the Victorian House with a group of guys, two of us rented a condo at el neptuno to use as the place to have fun with the chicas. The side entrance for the el neptuno condominiums was across the street for the entrance of the victorian house, very convenient. The el neptuno condo was nice, two bedrooms, two bathrooms and balcony.

On other trips when we stayed at an all inclusive hotel in sosua, we rented a one bedroom condo from Marco at the tradewinds. My wingman is older than me, so when we used the condo at the same time, I let him take the bedroom and I used the sofa with a chica, sometimes I took the cushions off the sofa and put them on the floor and did my fucking there. We used to pay about $35 per night for a one bedroom at the tradewinds. During the day we would take turns using the apartment. Tradewinds pool is nice and I used that pool at 4am with some chicas I met.

I rented one time at the Palms, which is just after the tradewinds. I would never recommend the Palms. One night I met the chica in the attached photo (sunglasses). I told her I was renting an apartment at the Palms and she agreed to meet me later that night at the Palms. My wingman and I then met two other chicas and we took them back to the Palms that night. That night with my wingman and the two chicas inside the apartment at the palms, I walked outside to see if the other chica was there. The other chica in the photo did come by the palms that night and she invited me to her apartment. Without telling my wingman or the other two chicas, who were in the apartment, I went with the chica in the photo to her apartment. Her apartment was located on the ground floor of some building a two minute walk from the Palms. Nice apartment, we took a shower together, sex, I busted a nut, gave her about 1500 pesos and walked back to the palms where my wingman and the two chicas were waiting.

Hotel Orchidee and Rockys are located close to Classicos, if in the future you choose to stay at an all inclusive hotel in Sosua, you could rent lower price rooms at Rockys or Hotel Orchidee to use for sex. Tradewinds condos are not in the central part of Sosua. Tradewinds is more convenient if you have a rental car. El Neptuno is within walking distance of all.

Guys should always be careful in a foreign country, but unlike some other foreign countries, in the DR you generally don't have to be worried about getting kidnapped. Bad things about fucking a chica in her place; lack of air conditioning, sometimes no electricity and sometimes no running water. I have read practically no posts of mongers getting robbed when a chica invited them to her place in DR (doesn't mean it hasn't happened and it could happen in the future).

I'll be in Sosua April 10.

Does anybody have any numbers they want to share?

Make my monger experience easier.

Thanks Pat for the post. I agree that there were a ton of mistakes, but you don't know what you don't know. I didn't find out about ISG until my second trip, and I'm glad I did as it has helped me avoid other mistakes (thanks guys). That's why it's imperative that seasoned mongers keep an eye out for newbies. A lot of us are open to advice and guidance, and would love to have the best time possible.

[QUOTE=Patrk39; 1132902]Sov,

I can appreciate you being a newbie and making mistakes, and I am really happy that you had a great time anyway. However, your trip could have easily gone the other way. The thought of a "fish" taking a girl to her home on his first night in a foreign land is downright frightening. Unless you know the chica well, never, never, NEVER do your business anywhere but your home turf, or at least a neutral site. The potential for danger-you getting robbed, sent to jail, maimed, killed- is increased by a thousandfold. I am telling you this out of concern, not to be a dick.

All of your mistakes could have easily been avoided with a little preparation. All information on chica-friendly places to stay; changing your dollars to pesos; personal safety; and negotiating with chicas can be found all over this and other boards. This is for you own security.

There are many, many experienced "good guys" that would be happy to help, but you have to ask and listen. The best idea for a newbie is to try to travel with an experienced person on their maiden voyage.

I'm sure everyone here appreciates your candor, and certainly the excellent photos you provided. Stay safe, and be smart!

Pat[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1133057]I rented one time at the Palms, which is just after the tradewinds. I would never recommend the Palms.[/QUOTE]When I immigrated into the DR eighteen months ago, I expected to be staying at the Palms, at least for my first year. As it happened, I was diverted elsewhere (no reflection on the Palms).

Why would you not recommend the Palms? A lot of my acquaintances like it there but I have only visited them for a few hours so I don't really know the place. I know you always have a vehicle so that reason does not apply in your case.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1133328]When I immigrated into the DR eighteen months ago, I expected to be staying at the Palms, at least for my first year. As it happened, I was diverted elsewhere (no reflection on the Palms).

Why would you not recommend the Palms? A lot of my acquaintances like it there but I have only visited them for a few hours so I don't really know the place. I know you always have a vehicle so that reason does not apply in your case.[/QUOTE]I did over ten trips to Sosua with other guys. We always stayed in an all inclusive hotel in Sosua. Another guy and myself rented condominium apartments in Sosua, only to use when we entertained chicas, the majority of the time was spent at the all inclusive hotel or at the bars.

On one trip, Marco had no available apartments at Tradewinds and the owner of the el neptuno apartment (a guy from the States) told me his apartment was booked. I found info about the Palms online and made a reservation over the internet. The woman who managed the apartment at the Palms was probably Canadian and she worked at some bar in Sosua. I met with her in Sosua and paid for 5 nights. After I paid her, she told me that I could NOT bring any Dominican chicas to pool. When I stayed at the Tradewinds and El Neptuno I was never given such restrictions.

The palms pool is at the bottom of the steps of the place and is nothing special. My second day at the palms, I noticed older white women lounging at the pool with their young Dominican boyfriends. One set of rules for women and a more restrictive set of rules for men at the Palms.

My first night at the Palms, I invited over two chicas around 8pm. My wingman and I sat outside on the balcony / terrace of the apartment chatting with the chicas and around 10pm we exited to go back to the all inclusive and get ready for the bars.

The next day I found a handwritten note on the kitchen table written in English from the Canadian woman who had rented me the apartment. The note said that I made too much noise the night before and if there was a repeat of that, they would evict me and not refund any money. My wingman and I, chatting with two Dominican chicas on the balcony was the noise they were upset about. For the rest of the trip I did not use the balcony at the Palms.

My wingman slept with one chica he picked up in a bar in Sosua, at the Palms. I had to visit him for something around 5am, maybe he had the car keys. I walked into the bedroom and he was sleeping with the chica. I woke him up and he discovered the chica had started her period, so there was gobs of menstruation fluid on the sheets and the mattress. He was pissed and disgusted, the chica started to cry. I was laughing my ass off and I am laughing now as I recall that. We flipped the mattress so the menstruation fluid soaked side of the mattress was facing the floor (box-spring) and threw the sheet in the closet. The woman who rented me the apartment never said anything to me about the mattress. Karma, LOL.

The Palms has a few parking spaces near the main entrance, across the street from the main entrance there is a house with a big yard that has geese, turkey, ducks and maybe some other animals. In the field across from the Tradewinds are a few old General Motors corvette automobiles that are partially covered with plant life.

Palms has a gated parking area down the hill closer to the pool. Near that parking area is a dirt road, where I had sex in the car one night.

Many nights in Sosua I stayed out till 4am or later. Some chicas I met, I invited them to go swimming at 4am at the Tradewinds pool. They entered the pool in bra and panties or nude.

Marco the Canadian guy at Rockys would give me the keys for the Tradewinds apartment, he was always a very good guy with me. The American owner of the el neptuno apartment was a very nice guy. I never received any complaints when I stayed at the Tradewinds or El Neptuno.

The Palms with their Apartheid like pool policy (which only applied to men and dominican women) and their intolerance of but the minimalist amount of noise, their no refund of money paid in case of wrongful eviction, for these reasons The Palms gets two thumbs down from me.

Maybe the Palms is different now, I have relayed my experience there.

Some photos from Sosua and one from Mangu in Playa Dorada complex Puerto Plata. Azul was a half Colombian, half Dominican chica, who used the pool with me at tradewinds at 5am, she was a regular in Sosua. I visited her place at the Hotel Romanoff, where she shared a room with another chica. Boring was a Santiago chica, about the only sexy thing she knew how to do was play with tongue, she was a boring lay. Blonde chica had no panties on with that dress, while she was out and about in classicos and after one. Big tittie morena from classicos took me to some low cost motel place that was on the charamicos side of sosua.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker; 1108813]The 20 mg LaPela cost 50 DOP or about 1. 38 USD and can be purchased in every pharmacy I have been in in the DR. You can also get Viagra and Cialis with out prescription. LaPela has the same active ingredient Tadalafil as Cialis. At about ten times less money.

Have never tried Viagra or Cialis but LaPela worked for me. [/QUOTE]Is Levitra availble in Sousa.

Where?

What are the current costs for Viagara with mg.

Thanks Book

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1133396]I did over ten trips to Sosua with other guys ... I found info about the Palms online and made a reservation over the internet.[/QUOTE]A very complete, interesting, and convincing reply to my question. Thanks.

I think you can add to the demerits at the Palms poor security and internet service, judging by my friend's experience. Even so, several intelligent Sosúa vets I know (who are more than aware of all the other options) always choose to stay there so there must be good aspects. Good thing we are all different.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1133847]A very complete, interesting, and convincing reply to my question. Thanks.

I think you can add to the demerits at the Palms poor security and internet service, judging by my friend's experience. Even so, several intelligent Sosúa vets I know (who are more than aware of all the other options) always choose to stay there so there must be good aspects. Good thing we are all different. [/QUOTE]Tradewinds has a nicer pool, surrounded by grass and plants, a little separated from the apartments. Palms pool is surrounded by cement within close proximity of the apartments.

Male Sosua vets or female Sosua vets? Seems the older white females run the place over at the Palms and do whatever they want at the Palms. I guess they would have evicted me super fast, if I dared showed up at the pool with a Haitian chica. (Some women at the Palms don't want Dominican women at the pool, I can only imagine how they might feel about Haitians). But if you are happy hanging around such people, have fun. It is not for me.

Some folks own apartments or their friends own apartments at the Palms and for that they would stay there.

Unless the Palms has loosened up with their rules and regs, I would advise any Mongers looking for a short term apartment rental to look elsewhere.

Well Gents, Today is the the day I'm off to Sosua. The only bad thing is that I have to stay overnight in New York a night, So I will not arrive in Sosua Until Tomorrow. I'm still excited to head out of here today though. I will see some of you there! Happy Vacations to those who will be in DR this week. I will be sure to make daily reports and post pictures. I will be the man on the battle field to let everyone know what I see and what is going on. Everyone here has contributed a lot to me, it is the least I can do. Talk to ya soon.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1134050]Well Gents, Today is the the day I'm off to Sosua. The only bad thing is that I have to stay overnight in New York a night, So I will not arrive in Sosua Until Tomorrow. I'm still excited to head out of here today though. I will see some of you there! Happy Vacations to those who will be in DR this week. I will be sure to make daily reports and post pictures. I will be the man on the battle field to let everyone know what I see and what is going on. Everyone here has contributed a lot to me, it is the least I can do. Talk to ya soon.[/QUOTE]Best wishes for a great trip. Good of you to promise to report daily, and that's great if you can organize your time to do it, but don't let reporting get in the way of your trip. I always found if I took lots of pics (many of them very mundane and not for posting) I was able to remind myself what happened and in what order once I got back home and piece together a report then.

I didn't mention this but when I was there the police did try to get 100 pesos from me as I walked from CMP. I was with a hatian guy when they pulled up beside us and told the hatian to ask me for a 100 pesos. The cops didn't speak english. I ignored them and kept walking. They followed me a bit but. Not many people would fool with and they got that vibe and rode off. Most chicas told me they don't like Calle which is where classicos and everything is. Police like to people.

So beware

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1133396]I did over ten trips to Sosua with other guys. We always stayed in an all inclusive hotel in Sosua. Another guy and myself rented condominium apartments in Sosua, only to use when we entertained chicas, the majority of the time was spent at the all inclusive hotel or at the bars.

On one trip, Marco had no available apartments at Tradewinds and the owner of the el neptuno apartment (a guy from the States) told me his apartment was booked. I found info about the Palms online and made a reservation over the internet. The woman who managed the apartment at the Palms was probably Canadian and she worked at some bar in Sosua. I met with her in Sosua and paid for 5 nights. After I paid her, she told me that I could NOT bring any Dominican chicas to pool. When I stayed at the Tradewinds and El Neptuno I was never given such restrictions.

The palms pool is at the bottom of the steps of the place and is nothing special. My second day at the palms, I noticed older white women lounging at the pool with their young Dominican boyfriends. One set of rules for women and a more restrictive set of rules for men at the Palms.

My first night at the Palms, I invited over two chicas around 8pm. My wingman and I sat outside on the balcony / terrace of the apartment chatting with the chicas and around 10pm we exited to go back to the all inclusive and get ready for the bars.

The next day I found a handwritten note on the kitchen table written in English from the Canadian woman who had rented me the apartment. The note said that I made too much noise the night before and if there was a repeat of that, they would evict me and not refund any money. My wingman and I, chatting with two Dominican chicas on the balcony was the noise they were upset about. For the rest of the trip I did not use the balcony at the Palms.

My wingman slept with one chica he picked up in a bar in Sosua, at the Palms. I had to visit him for something around 5am, maybe he had the car keys. I walked into the bedroom and he was sleeping with the chica. I woke him up and he discovered the chica had started her period, so there was gobs of menstruation fluid on the sheets and the mattress. He was pissed and disgusted, the chica started to cry. I was laughing my ass off and I am laughing now as I recall that. We flipped the mattress so the menstruation fluid soaked side of the mattress was facing the floor (box-spring) and threw the sheet in the closet. The woman who rented me the apartment never said anything to me about the mattress. Karma, LOL.

The Palms has a few parking spaces near the main entrance, across the street from the main entrance there is a house with a big yard that has geese, turkey, ducks and maybe some other animals. In the field across from the Tradewinds are a few old General Motors corvette automobiles that are partially covered with plant life.

Palms has a gated parking area down the hill closer to the pool. Near that parking area is a dirt road, where I had sex in the car one night.

Many nights in Sosua I stayed out till 4am or later. Some chicas I met, I invited them to go swimming at 4am at the Tradewinds pool. They entered the pool in bra and panties or nude.

Marco the Canadian guy at Rockys would give me the keys for the Tradewinds apartment, he was always a very good guy with me. The American owner of the el neptuno apartment was a very nice guy. I never received any complaints when I stayed at the Tradewinds or El Neptuno.

The Palms with their Apartheid like pool policy (which only applied to men and dominican women) and their intolerance of but the minimalist amount of noise, their no refund of money paid in case of wrongful eviction, for these reasons The Palms gets two thumbs down from me.

Maybe the Palms is different now, I have relayed my experience there.

Some photos from Sosua and one from Mangu in Playa Dorada complex Puerto Plata. Azul was a half Colombian, half Dominican chica, who used the pool with me at tradewinds at 5am, she was a regular in Sosua. I visited her place at the Hotel Romanoff, where she shared a room with another chica. Boring was a Santiago chica, about the only sexy thing she knew how to do was play with tongue, she was a boring lay. Blonde chica had no panties on with that dress, while she was out and about in classicos and after one. Big tittie morena from classicos took me to some low cost motel place that was on the charamicos side of sosua. [/QUOTE]Is this Bar now re-opened?

[QUOTE=Dwilso39;1134131]Is this Bar now re-opened?[/QUOTE]I don't know. Guys on the ground in Sosua or who have been there recently can answer.

[QUOTE=Book7777; 1133470]Is Levitra availble in Sousa.

Where?

What are the current costs for Viagara with mg.

Thanks Book[/QUOTE]On my last trip to Santo Domingo, I paid about 340 pesos (about $9US) for one Cialis. There are at least 3 pharmacies, that I remember in Sosua. One is a 1/4 block from New Garden, when you make a right out of New Garden. Oftentimes in DR, generic versions of name brand pills are available as well as the name brand version.

LaPela is a generic version of Cialis, cost per pill around 70 pesos. There are other generic versions. Most pharmacies in Sosua carry the name brand or the generic or both.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1134228]On my last trip to Santo Domingo, I paid about 340 pesos (about $9US) for one Cialis. There are at least 3 pharmacies, that I remember in Sosua. One is a 1/4 block from New Garden, when you make a right out of New Garden. Oftentimes in DR, generic versions of name brand pills are available as well as the name brand version.

LaPela is a generic version of Cialis, cost per pill around 70 pesos. There are other generic versions. Most pharmacies in Sosua carry the name brand or the generic or both. [/QUOTE]Beware of the Rx by the NG. They sold us some bogus vitamins and would not refund our money. Got some vitamin C and it turned out be a substance like good ole drywall. Use the Rx next to the market just down the street from Sosua Bay Hotel past the taxi stand. Always got the real thing from her. Cialis was running around $1200DP for four if memory serves me right.

Nightwhaler

When driving the new hwy from sdq to sosua, will there be a sign at the end of the new hwy directing you to Sosua?

A few years back there was a girl named Dorka that was at BB's. She left to have a baby and never returned. I was told that she was working in Sosua a year ago. Any info would be great. Thanks,

[QUOTE=Book7777; 1133470]Is Levitra availble in Sousa.

Where?

What are the current costs for Viagara with mg.

Thanks Book[/QUOTE]Others (including myself) have asked the same question. I always see the same reply about LePella but I have never seen anyone post what is the cost for 100MG Viagara. Wish someone would. Cellas and Levitra don't work nearly as well as Viagara. Would be nice to know what the cost is down ther.

[QUOTE=Traveler04;1134620]A few years back there was a girl named Dorka that was at BB's. She left to have a baby and never returned. I was told that she was working in Sosua a year ago. Any info would be great. Thanks,[/QUOTE]See my pic in the Puerto Plata section today.

[QUOTE=Nightwhaler;1134595]Beware of the Rx by the NG. They sold us some bogus vitamins and would not refund our money. Got some vitamin C and it turned out be a substance like good ole drywall. Use the Rx next to the market just down the street from Sosua Bay Hotel past the taxi stand. Always got the real thing from her. Cialis was running around $1200DP for four if memory serves me right.[/QUOTE]Do you mean it was defective stock, or a scam product to start with? Because of their proximity to the NG they probably sell more LaPela than anywhere in Sosúa and in five years I have never heard or read of anyone having a problem.

I am not contradicting you, however. You could have bought from a bad batch or they may have switched to an inferior product. Things can change in the DR and usually for the worse.

Just got back from DR. Never made it to Sosua this time but I'll be in Sosua in April.

I was plesantly suprised by Boca Chica though, and my newbie report is posted there.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1134810]Just got back from DR. Never made it to Sosua this time but I'll be in Sosua in April.

I was plesantly suprised by Boca Chica though, and my newbie report is posted there. [/QUOTE]Guys be sure to jump over to the Boca Chica thread and read Oakie's report. Always nice to read some good news on Boca. Oakie describes Boca as a dingy little town. Boca is indeed that but you can still have a lot of fun in Boca.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1134634]Do you mean it was defective stock, or a scam product to start with? Because of their proximity to the NG they probably sell more LaPela than anywhere in Sosúa and in five years I have never heard or read of anyone having a problem.

I am not contradicting you, however. You could have bought from a bad batch or they may have switched to an inferior product. Things can change in the DR and usually for the worse. [/QUOTE]This stuff was like a thin layer of cardboard over chalk that went yuck in your mouth. I usually take only a half (bit into it). Went to show the lady in the Rx but she refused to honor our request for a refund even after we showed her the product. This was my brother and I back in Nov. Anyway I don't buy there anymore because of that incident. And yes it could have been a fluke and not business as usual with them. One of a kind, it happens. I am no stranger to Sosua, usually get there every 6 weeks or so. Will be in town on the 30th of this month for a week if anyone is in need of beer. Just give me a shout.

Thanks, Nightwhaler

[QUOTE=Nightwhaler; 1134870]This stuff was like a thin layer of cardboard over chalk that went yuck in your mouth. I usually take only a half (bit into it). Went to show the lady in the Rx but she refused to honor our request for a refund even after we showed her the product. This was my brother and I back in Nov. Anyway I don't buy there anymore because of that incident. And yes it could have been a fluke and not business as usual with them. One of a kind, it happens. I am no stranger to Sosua, usually get there every 6 weeks or so. Will be in town on the 30th of this month for a week if anyone is in need of beer. Just give me a shout.

Thanks, Nightwhaler[/QUOTE]Nightwhaler,

I'm not trying to flame you but WTF. I've used that farmacia a zillion times and never received any fakes. Just because it looked and tasted the way it did doesn't mean it is a fake, it either gave you a fucking boner or it didn't. I'm not saying they weren't fake but you are describing a typical pill to me. I'm going to go there shortly and buy a few and give them the real test, the hard-on fuck like a teenager test not a goddamn taste test. I promise to report back with the results, LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1134609]When driving the new hwy from sdq to sosua, will there be a sign at the end of the new hwy directing you to Sosua?[/QUOTE]At the end of the highway go left for Cabarete, Sosua, Puerto Plata or go right for Samana. When you turn left just follow the coastal road to Sosua. About an hour and a half +/- all depending on traffic.

This autocorrect software is crazy. I wrote "When you turn........." and the autocorrect changed it to "When U-turn...". I had to go back and edit my post. I found reading typos a lot easier than dealing with "autocorrect".

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[QUOTE=Nightwhaler; 1134595]Beware of the Rx by the NG. They sold us some bogus vitamins and would not refund our money. Got some vitamin C and it turned out be a substance like good ole drywall. Use the Rx next to the market just down the street from Sosua Bay Hotel past the taxi stand. Always got the real thing from her. Cialis was running around $1200DP for four if memory serves me right.

Nightwhaler[/QUOTE]There was another pharmacy bear the metro bus stop, attached to the where the Texaco gas station is on the main road in Sosua.

I used Viagra one time years ago and paid about $8 per pill, in Sosua. The Viagra made my skull pound with a headache (I was drinking beer). The Cialis hasn't really given me any side effects like that. I felt the effects from one Cialis for about 2 days, my last trip.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1134609]When driving the new hwy from sdq to sosua, will there be a sign at the end of the new hwy directing you to Sosua?[/QUOTE]I will be there on the 24th in Sousa. We can swap Thai wife stories. I will be staying at TerraLinda.

[QUOTE=Bq Ribs;1134902]This autocorrect software is crazy. I wrote "When you turn........." and the autocorrect changed it to "When U-turn...". I had to go back and edit my post. I found reading typos a lot easier than dealing with "autocorrect".[/QUOTE]I had exactly the same problem with the same words, plus similar problems with various other words and phrases.

Please turn off the autocorrect, Mr Jackson. I always enjoy it when you kick the shit out of illiterates, anyway. A big plus point over some other boards one could mention!

I flew into SDQ and rented through Alamo (Thanks Bq and Jao). Smooth sailing on the new highway. At the end of the highway turn left for Cabatette / Sosua. Now here's the key. Follow the signs for Rio San Juan because there is another road where it forks off.

Arrived in Sosua with my newbie (ex Brazil guy). Hit baileys and had a salad with grilled chicken breast in mushroom sauce (350p). Showered and hit Passions and watched as my wingman (named R) droueled. At 11pm hit Latinos. Fellas Sosua was half of what is used to be girl wise. The streets were bare. Then at 11:30 hit Classicos. Classicos appears to be recession proof. The ratio was 5 to 1. The girls appear to have newbie radar as they zero in on my wingman. It was like I was invisible as he got all the stares. My wingman had two fine light skinned girls from Bani sitting with us but a couple nice honeys were lingering around for scraps. I was playing peace keeper to give my wingman outs. The girl from Bani (second day in Sosua) was grouped up which wasnt good. So I directed him to one of the single bystanders. He zeros in on the bystander and off they go. I walk them to the corner to make sure he doesn't get lost as she thanks me.

Day 2 will be posted in the Gogo forum.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1135074]I flew into SDQ and rented through Alamo (Thanks Bq and Jao). Smooth sailing on the new highway. At the end of the highway turn left for Cabatette / Sosua. Now here's the key. Follow the signs for Rio San Juan because there is another road where it forks off.

Arrived in Sosua with my newbie (ex Brazil guy). Hit baileys and had a salad with grilled chicken breast in mushroom sauce (350p). Showered and hit Passions and watched as my wingman (named R) droueled. At 11pm hit Latinos. Fellas Sosua was half of what is used to be girl wise. The streets were bare. Then at 11:30 hit Classicos. Classicos appears to be recession proof. The ratio was 5 to 1. The girls appear to have newbie radar as they zero in on my wingman. It was like I was invisible as he got all the stares. My wingman had two fine light skinned girls from Bani sitting with us but a couple nice honeys were lingering around for scraps. I was playing peace keeper to give my wingman outs. The girl from Bani (second day in Sosua) was grouped up which wasnt good. So I directed him to one of the single bystanders. He zeros in on the bystander and off they go. I walk them to the corner to make sure he doesn't get lost as she thanks me.

Day 2 will be posted in the Gogo forum. [/QUOTE]Definitely have to plan daytime action in advance bro. Either keep the girl you had the night before for a TLN and negotiate her leaving early in the evening if you like the daytime banging like I do bro. I don't think you're going to find shit on the beach anymore and I'm not a passions or cmp guy. Want to have some fun? Take the car to Charamicos, Sosua Abajo or better yet Maranata! Thats where they hang out in the daytime for fear of walking around Sosua in the day. Just point and click and they'll jump right in! LOL

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1135201]Definitely have to plan daytime action in advance bro. Either keep the girl you had the night before for a TLN and negotiate her leaving early in the evening if you like the daytime banging like I do bro. I don't think you're going to find shit on the beach anymore and I'm not a passions or cmp guy. Want to have some fun? Take the car to Charamicos, Sosua Abajo or better yet Maranata! Thats where they hang out in the daytime for fear of walking around Sosua in the day. Just point and click and they'll jump right in! LOL[/QUOTE]Please elighten me on where "Charamicos, Sosua Abajo, and Maranata are located in reference to Sosua Batey? I will be travelling by car and would like to visit. Out of all the times I have been there I have not been to these locations. Be there on the 30th. Thanks.

Nightwhaler

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1135201]Definitely have to plan daytime action in advance bro. Either keep the girl you had the night before for a TLN and negotiate her leaving early in the evening if you like the daytime banging like I do bro. I don't think you're going to find shit on the beach anymore and I'm not a passions or cmp guy. Want to have some fun? Take the car to Charamicos, Sosua Abajo or better yet Maranata! Thats where they hang out in the daytime for fear of walking around Sosua in the day. Just point and click and they'll jump right in! LOL[/QUOTE]Yeah, I got to a spot like those you stated. I thought I had a secret, but today a gringo told me about the same spot, damn. Its a little past Cabarette, I think its called Sabanetta. The girls sit on the front porch of their houses near the main road. There are two very nice cabanas nearby. The chicas know what gringos are looking for so everything is understood. I've even pulled up to a girl there and said cabana nothing else and she jumps in my vehicle. But beware of the young ones.

As far as the day activites, its totally changed. Soccer moms pushing strollers eating ice cream. A teenage European field trip (20 kids). European couples riding bicycles. Older retired couples walking around. Alot of the upscale restaurants are doing good for late night romatic dinners (no mongerers, no dominicanas).

A chica told me in Classicos last night, that the policia would round up the girls throw them (30 chicas) all in one cell with a pale in the middle and that was the bathroom.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1135249]..............As far as the day activites, its totally changed. Soccer moms pushing strollers eating ice cream. A teenage European field trip (20 kids). European couples riding bicycles. Older retired couples walking around. Alot of the upscale restaurants are doing good for late night romatic dinners (no mongerers, no dominicanas)......................[/QUOTE]It's been almost 5 years since I have spent some serious time in Sosua but what you wrote is the Sosua I remember in 2006. I remember the bicycle tours down clisante, the monster truck transporting tourists, many Europeans trinket shopping, etc. Back then daytime was time to rest up because the freaks came out at night.

Enjoy your trip Sir.

[QUOTE=Nightwhaler;1135212]Please elighten me on where "Charamicos, Sosua Abajo, and Maranata are located in reference to Sosua Batey? I will be travelling by car and would like to visit. Out of all the times I have been there I have not been to these locations. Be there on the 30th. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you drive from El Batéy towards Puerto Plata along the main road, Los Charamicos and Sosúa Abajo are the first and second shopping areas you will come to. Most of Los Charamicos lies to the right of the main road and extends to the ocean. You can of course also enter it by walking all along the beach path from El Batéy.

Sosúa Abajo is much smaller and what there is of it lies to the left of the main road.

Maranata is up a side road, inland, from Sosúa Abajo and is much more spread out.

First trip was over the top badass! This was before they started busting the putas! Now with no daytime sleaze rubbing my cock while drinking a Presidente I really don't know if my friends will have a slam-dunk shag fest!

Classicos good every night? Even Sunday and Monday night? My trip is May 4-10 w 2 friends coming in for the weekend. Daytime limited to Passions and the new place that is similar?

So it's not just the Haitians getting policed away? Are there hot Dominicans during the day you can buy drinks and shag again during the day?

Sounds like it's time to spend more and make it all the way to Columbia! Oh well maybe next year!

Terra Linda still girl friendly? Looked like they were putting in a beauty salon last time I was there. Also I hardly noticed any hotties at the pool. Are they trying to keep the putas to a minimum? In the rooms only! Any bad TL experiences? Still best kingsize beds on 3rd floor?

This is brand new so we will see how reliable my sources are in the next couple weeks. Willie owns Latinos and also is the vice Mayor or something like that. Well we all know he is a fighter but maybe he has lost this battle. A Canadian guy owns the building and has died, but his two sons want the business back. Willie was fighting this being he had invested major money into the establishment. He added a new generator and we all see the windows. Well he lost that battle yesterday and the Canadian sons will have the club. It will be closed any minute for atleast a month while the owners decide on how to proceed.

Also the restaurant at Europa hotel has new owners and guess who? Russians and it was packed last night. After dinner sharply dressed Russians were walking around (but not near Classicos). At 10pm Latinos was empty, bar centro was packed with european guys with a sprinkle of Haitian girls thrown in. Merengue was crowded with Europeans but they didn't go to Classicos. There is a new Russian TV station in Sosua. Dee is no longer in Passions parking lot selling food. Saturday the ratio was about even as I guess alot of guys are coming just for the weekend now. The beach was packed with european families. Classicos is the last frontier. Its all that remains of the old Sosua, will it fall soon?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1135734]This is brand new so we will see how reliable my sources are in the next couple weeks. Willie owns Latinos and also is the vice Mayor or something like that. Well we all know he is a fighter but maybe he has lost this battle. A Canadian guy owns the building and has died, but his two sons want the business back. Willie was fighting this being he had invested major money into the establishment. He added a new generator and we all see the windows. Well he lost that battle yesterday and the Canadian sons will have the club. It will be closed any minute for atleast a month while the owners decide on how to proceed.

Also the restaurant at Europa hotel has new owners and guess who? Russians and it was packed last night. After dinner sharply dressed Russians were walking around (but not near Classicos). At 10pm Latinos was empty, bar centro was packed with european guys with a sprinkle of Haitian girls thrown in. Merengue was crowded with Europeans but they didn't go to Classicos. There is a new Russian TV station in Sosua. Dee is no longer in Passions parking lot selling food. Saturday the ratio was about even as I guess alot of guys are coming just for the weekend now. The beach was packed with european families. Classicos is the last frontier. Its all that remains of the old Sosua, will it fall soon? [/QUOTE]Wily deserves the worst!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1135734]This is brand new so we will see how reliable my sources are in the next couple weeks. Willie owns Latinos and also is the vice Mayor or something like that. Well we all know he is a fighter but maybe he has lost this battle. A Canadian guy owns the building and has died, but his two sons want the business back. Willie was fighting this being he had invested major money into the establishment. He added a new generator and we all see the windows. Well he lost that battle yesterday and the Canadian sons will have the club. It will be closed any minute for atleast a month while the owners decide on how to proceed.

Also the restaurant at Europa hotel has new owners and guess who? Russians and it was packed last night. After dinner sharply dressed Russians were walking around (but not near Classicos). At 10pm Latinos was empty, bar centro was packed with european guys with a sprinkle of Haitian girls thrown in. Merengue was crowded with Europeans but they didn't go to Classicos. There is a new Russian TV station in Sosua. Dee is no longer in Passions parking lot selling food. Saturday the ratio was about even as I guess alot of guys are coming just for the weekend now. The beach was packed with european families. Classicos is the last frontier. Its all that remains of the old Sosua, will it fall soon? [/QUOTE]Wow man, that was heavy! Thanks for reporting in.

So, it's all been narrowed down to Classico's for freelancers, huh? If you thought you couldn't move around in there before, then I can only imagine what it's going to be like from here on! I can see hour-long waits to get inside on the horizon.

Did you notice any chicas walking around in the evening hours? Did the Bikini Party at NG happen (or am I on the wrong weekend?)?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1135734]This is brand new so we will see how reliable my sources are in the next couple weeks. Willie owns Latinos and also is the vice Mayor or something like that. Well we all know he is a fighter but maybe he has lost this battle. A Canadian guy owns the building and has died, but his two sons want the business back. Willie was fighting this being he had invested major money into the establishment. He added a new generator and we all see the windows. Well he lost that battle yesterday and the Canadian sons will have the club. It will be closed any minute for atleast a month while the owners decide on how to proceed.

Also the restaurant at Europa hotel has new owners and guess who? Russians and it was packed last night. After dinner sharply dressed Russians were walking around (but not near Classicos). At 10pm Latinos was empty, bar centro was packed with european guys with a sprinkle of Haitian girls thrown in. Merengue was crowded with Europeans but they didn't go to Classicos. There is a new Russian TV station in Sosua. Dee is no longer in Passions parking lot selling food. Saturday the ratio was about even as I guess alot of guys are coming just for the weekend now. The beach was packed with european families. Classicos is the last frontier. Its all that remains of the old Sosua, will it fall soon? [/QUOTE]Good info Gogo, funny it wasn't too long ago when you mentioned Russians will be taking over Sosua and just about everyone laughed at you. Hmmmmm

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1135759]Wow man, that was heavy! Thanks for reporting in.

So, it's all been narrowed down to Classico's for freelancers, huh? If you thought you couldn't move around in there before, then I can only imagine what it's going to be like from here on! I can see hour-long waits to get inside on the horizon.

Did you notice any chicas walking around in the evening hours? Did the Bikini Party at NG happen (or am I on the wrong weekend?)?[/QUOTE]Its still pussy walking around in the evening hours, but the girls have to be going somewhere not just posted up. The Dominicanos that hang out in Sosua say there are internal problems. The police perform their harassment in waves. Also I got my first racism claim from a couple Dominican dudes who stated"the white boys are trying to take over". Also they don't like the police killing their city. But this came from a couple broke ass Dominicanos.

This broke ass Dominicano also stayed that President Fernandez was behind this Sosua change. I said to him"Lionel doesn't give a fuck about little ass Sosua". He said Lionel is invested heavily in Punta Cana and that the Sosua mayor is from the opposing party, so she gets the blame and it increases traffic to Punta Cana. I said" Punta cana doesn't want single guys" and he didn't like me constantly challenging his knowledge. So take it for what its worth.

Also the Bikini party at NG was cancelled. When I was there NG was very quiet and not full. They have also stopped parking on the El Flow side of the street at night, Why? The pharmacy next to New Garden is no longer there Hmmm. One last thing, I noticed more guys bringing dates into Classicos. This must mean that alot of girls are scared to come to Sosua alone, and guys are maintaining their connections either by phone or Western Union. Ohh and Domincans are allowed into Classicos without a cover.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1135734]This is brand new so we will see how reliable my sources are in the next couple weeks. Willie owns Latinos and also is the vice Mayor or something like that. Well we all know he is a fighter but maybe he has lost this battle. A Canadian guy owns the building and has died, but his two sons want the business back. Willie was fighting this being he had invested major money into the establishment. He added a new generator and we all see the windows. Well he lost that battle yesterday and the Canadian sons will have the club. It will be closed any minute for atleast a month while the owners decide on how to proceed.

Also the restaurant at Europa hotel has new owners and guess who? Russians and it was packed last night. After dinner sharply dressed Russians were walking around (but not near Classicos). At 10pm Latinos was empty, bar centro was packed with european guys with a sprinkle of Haitian girls thrown in. Merengue was crowded with Europeans but they didn't go to Classicos. There is a new Russian TV station in Sosua. Dee is no longer in Passions parking lot selling food. Saturday the ratio was about even as I guess alot of guys are coming just for the weekend now. The beach was packed with european families. Classicos is the last frontier. Its all that remains of the old Sosua, will it fall soon? [/QUOTE]I'll keep you posted.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1135889]I'll keep you posted.[/QUOTE]Yeah I just walked by there (930pm) , but that info came from one of the employees. Also the pharmacy next to NG was open as I walked by, the previous two times I needed to go there during the day the shutters were down.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1135385]If you drive from El Batéwhy towards Puerto Plata along the main road, Los Charamicos and Sosúa Abajo are the first and second shopping areas you will come to. Most of Los Charamicos lies to the right of the main road and extends to the ocean. You can of course also enter it by walking all along the beach path from El Batéwhy.

Sosúa Abajo is much smaller and what there is of it lies to the left of the main road.

Maranata is up a side road, inland, from Sosúa Abajo and is much more spread out. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Reading from the most recent reports looks like they are trying to kill off another one of our great mongering spots. Will Classicos go the way of Help? Let's hope not.

Nightwhaler,

Ok guys, my trip was really good. I know there has been a lot going around about not many girls out during the day, but while I was there, there were girls everywhere all day everyday. My first night there I went to classicos with some guys I met at my hotel (D' Piero) which is a great value and good service. Nice location if you don't mind walking. It is located just around a cornor before passions. Anyway my first night I took a stunner! She was a boring ass lay but at least I got my first nut out of the way. I paid her 2500 DR which I think I over paid. After my session with her I sent her on her way.

Then I went to passions where I met up with the guys that I had been haning with and had a few beers. There was this one hot ass chica who spoke a little bit of english but looked like she could work the dick good. LOL. I told her I would be back at 10 to take here out. I ran to the hotel grabbed some cigs and some cash and went back to passions. I didn't see the chica there and I waited for about an hour. So my guy took a girl out of passions and then they were going to go grab some food and hit the discos. I decided I would tag along and grab a chica down town. Then my guys chica from passions said she had a good friend in passions who would like to come with, so I said why not. We went back to passions and I grabbed her friend who was very sexy. I will not mention who this is because I respect her a lot. It turned out to be a great decision to take her though.

We all went out to dinner and hit the clubs. This chica was really in to me, (even though it is her job) but more than that. She looked out for me when motos were trying to over charge and things like that. After the discos we were all pretty drunk and we all went back to the hotel for the night. I must say this girl performed well and she was really into me. I know she was enjoying herself because I had her pussy dripping wet. No lube needed here. LOL.

After our session we went to sleep and I woke up to another good session with her.

This chica and I had such great chemistry that I took her out every day I was there at 6. Yeah I spent the 5000 Road. LOL. But she was worth it and I really liked her performance and her attitutude. Anyway, all and all I know this girl really likes me and I will tell you how I know that I was not just another job for her.

Saturday there was a concert in puerto plata. She paid for both our tickets the day before and never asked me for money. On out way to the concert we met up with her two sisters (who were smoking hot as well) and her primo who was really cool. We ended up getting a VIP table and a bottle of grey goose. The waiter brought the bill and it showed the price in USA dollars and Road. It was 109. 00 USA I was like shit, cause the guy gave me the bill. Then all of a sudden she took the bill out of my hands and her and her sexy sister went to go pay. I partied all night until 5am with her and her family and they picked up the tab all night. I didn't spend a dime. Then instead of going back to the hotel in Sosua she asked me if I would just like to stay at her house and meet the rest of her family in the morning. (well when we wake up) So I stayed at her house and another great session and we passed out. Now she lives with her two sisters and they are living good. Not in no shack. Her sister has a really good job, but I forgot what she does. She isn't a disco ho though. Anyway, in the morning I met the rest of her family and her mother came there, she had just got in from santo domingo. Everyone was cooking food and we had a awesome lunch togather. Everyone treated me like I had been in the family for years. I had a great time that is all I can really say. I guess for the pros that monger in sosua would prefer to keep it moving chica to chica, but I settled for qaulity over quantity. This girl never asked me for anything and she was truly a good girl at heart.

Since I had come back she has been texting me and telling me she misses me. She will text me every couple hours and tell me how she is doing or what she is doing things of that sort. Now here is the stunner, I asked her if she needed anything to get by or help out and she said NO! She wants me to keep my money so I can come back to see her sooner. She said she just wants me by her said. I called her this morning about a half hour ago and she was pretty emotional on the phone. I think she fell in love with me for real. She says she did and I think I actually beleive her. I really don't know what to say other than the fact that she is really cool. I totaly understand what she does for a living and I'm not judging the girl at all. She has to do what she has to do, but this girl is different than all the rest of the passions girls.

Anyway I had a great time and I want to give a shout out to MR GOGO. Sorry I didn't call but as you can tell from my report I was a bit occupied. Thanks for all the info and I hope you had a great time as well

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29; 1136129]Ok guys, my trip was really good. I know there has been a lot going around about not many girls out during the day, but while I was there, there were girls everywhere all day everyday. My first night there I went to classicos with some guys I met at my hotel (D' Piero) which is a great value and good service. Nice location if you don't mind walking. It is located just around a cornor before passions. Anyway my first night I took a stunner! She was a boring ass lay but at least I got my first nut out of the way. I paid her 2500 DR which I think I over paid. After my session with her I sent her on her way.

Then I went to passions where I met up with the guys that I had been haning with and had a few beers. There was this one hot ass chica who spoke a little bit of english but looked like she could work the dick good. LOL. I told her I would be back at 10 to take here out. I ran to the hotel grabbed some cigs and some cash and went back to passions. I didn't see the chica there and I waited for about an hour. So my guy took a girl out of passions and then they were going to go grab some food and hit the discos. I decided I would tag along and grab a chica down town. Then my guys chica from passions said she had a good friend in passions who would like to come with, so I said why not. We went back to passions and I grabbed her friend who was very sexy. I will not mention who this is because I respect her a lot. It turned out to be a great decision to take her though.

We all went out to dinner and hit the clubs. This chica was really in to me, (even though it is her job) but more than that. She looked out for me when motos were trying to over charge and things like that. After the discos we were all pretty drunk and we all went back to the hotel for the night. I must say this girl performed well and she was really into me. I know she was enjoying herself because I had her pussy dripping wet. No lube needed here. LOL.

After our session we went to sleep and I woke up to another good session with her.

This chica and I had such great chemistry that I took her out every day I was there at 6. Yeah I spent the 5000 Road. LOL. But she was worth it and I really liked her performance and her attitutude. Anyway, all and all I know this girl really likes me and I will tell you how I know that I was not just another job for her.

Saturday there was a concert in puerto plata. She paid for both our tickets the day before and never asked me for money. On out way to the concert we met up with her two sisters (who were smoking hot as well) and her primo who was really cool. We ended up getting a VIP table and a bottle of grey goose. The waiter brought the bill and it showed the price in USA dollars and Road. It was 109. 00 USA I was like shit, cause the guy gave me the bill. Then all of a sudden she took the bill out of my hands and her and her sexy sister went to go pay. I partied all night until 5am with her and her family and they picked up the tab all night. I didn't spend a dime. Then instead of going back to the hotel in Sosua she asked me if I would just like to stay at her house and meet the rest of her family in the morning. (well when we wake up) So I stayed at her house and another great session and we passed out. Now she lives with her two sisters and they are living good. Not in no shack. Her sister has a really good job, but I forgot what she does. She isn't a disco ho though. Anyway, in the morning I met the rest of her family and her mother came there, she had just got in from santo domingo. Everyone was cooking food and we had a awesome lunch togather. Everyone treated me like I had been in the family for years. I had a great time that is all I can really say. I guess for the pros that monger in sosua would prefer to keep it moving chica to chica, but I settled for qaulity over quantity. This girl never asked me for anything and she was truly a good girl at heart.

Since I had come back she has been texting me and telling me she misses me. She will text me every couple hours and tell me how she is doing or what she is doing things of that sort. Now here is the stunner, I asked her if she needed anything to get by or help out and she said NO! She wants me to keep my money so I can come back to see her sooner. She said she just wants me by her side. I called her this morning about a half hour ago and she was pretty emotional on the phone. I think she fell in love with me for real. She says she did and I think I actually beleive her. I really don't know what to say other than the fact that she is really cool. I totaly understand what she does for a living and I'm not judging the girl at all. She has to do what she has to do, but this girl is different than all the rest of the passions girls.

Anyway I had a great time and I want to give a shout out to MR GOGO. Sorry I didn't call but as you can tell from my report I was a bit occupied. Thanks for all the info and I hope you had a great time as well[/QUOTE]don't know why my laptop turned Road into road.

During the week I was getting 38 to 1 and eruopa and 37. 8 to 1 USD on the weekends

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29; 1136129]Ok guys, my trip was really good. I know there has been a lot going around about not many girls out during the day, but while I was there, there were girls everywhere all day everyday. My first night there I went to classicos with some guys I met at my hotel (D' Piero) which is a great value and good service. Nice location if you don't mind walking. It is located just around a cornor before passions. Anyway my first night I took a stunner! She was a boring ass lay but at least I got my first nut out of the way. I paid her 2500 DR which I think I over paid. After my session with her I sent her on her way.

Then I went to passions where I met up with the guys that I had been haning with and had a few beers. There was this one hot ass chica who spoke a little bit of english but looked like she could work the dick good. LOL. I told her I would be back at 10 to take here out. I ran to the hotel grabbed some cigs and some cash and went back to passions. I didn't see the chica there and I waited for about an hour. So my guy took a girl out of passions and then they were going to go grab some food and hit the discos. I decided I would tag along and grab a chica down town. Then my guys chica from passions said she had a good friend in passions who would like to come with, so I said why not. We went back to passions and I grabbed her friend who was very sexy. I will not mention who this is because I respect her a lot. It turned out to be a great decision to take her though.

We all went out to dinner and hit the clubs. This chica was really in to me, (even though it is her job) but more than that. She looked out for me when motos were trying to over charge and things like that. After the discos we were all pretty drunk and we all went back to the hotel for the night. I must say this girl performed well and she was really into me. I know she was enjoying herself because I had her pussy dripping wet. No lube needed here. LOL.

After our session we went to sleep and I woke up to another good session with her.

This chica and I had such great chemistry that I took her out every day I was there at 6. Yeah I spent the 5000 Road. LOL. But she was worth it and I really liked her performance and her attitutude. Anyway, all and all I know this girl really likes me and I will tell you how I know that I was not just another job for her.

Saturday there was a concert in puerto plata. She paid for both our tickets the day before and never asked me for money. On out way to the concert we met up with her two sisters (who were smoking hot as well) and her primo who was really cool. We ended up getting a VIP table and a bottle of grey goose. The waiter brought the bill and it showed the price in USA dollars and Road. It was 109. 00 USA I was like shit, cause the guy gave me the bill. Then all of a sudden she took the bill out of my hands and her and her sexy sister went to go pay. I partied all night until 5am with her and her family and they picked up the tab all night. I didn't spend a dime. Then instead of going back to the hotel in Sosua she asked me if I would just like to stay at her house and meet the rest of her family in the morning. (well when we wake up) So I stayed at her house and another great session and we passed out. Now she lives with her two sisters and they are living good. Not in no shack. Her sister has a really good job, but I forgot what she does. She isn't a disco ho though. Anyway, in the morning I met the rest of her family and her mother came there, she had just got in from santo domingo. Everyone was cooking food and we had a awesome lunch togather. Everyone treated me like I had been in the family for years. I had a great time that is all I can really say. I guess for the pros that monger in sosua would prefer to keep it moving chica to chica, but I settled for qaulity over quantity. This girl never asked me for anything and she was truly a good girl at heart.

Since I had come back she has been texting me and telling me she misses me. She will text me every couple hours and tell me how she is doing or what she is doing things of that sort. Now here is the stunner, I asked her if she needed anything to get by or help out and she said NO! She wants me to keep my money so I can come back to see her sooner. She said she just wants me by her said. I called her this morning about a half hour ago and she was pretty emotional on the phone. I think she fell in love with me for real. She says she did and I think I actually beleive her. I really don't know what to say other than the fact that she is really cool. I totaly understand what she does for a living and I'm not judging the girl at all. She has to do what she has to do, but this girl is different than all the rest of the passions girls.

Anyway I had a great time and I want to give a shout out to MR GOGO. Sorry I didn't call but as you can tell from my report I was a bit occupied. Thanks for all the info and I hope you had a great time as well[/QUOTE]So she's different huh? You might be the "one" for her huh? LOL Dude she's a passions girl. She fucks and sucks 5-10 times a day. I'm not judging her either thats how you found her but thats what they do at passions. Sure its possible to take her out and meet her family and do all of that GFE stuff and things and its nice believe me. I'm sure all of us here have experienced this sort of GFE to one extent or another but you really can't get the whorish behavior out of girls once they have had a taste of it in case that might be your goal. All of the guys on here will tell you how many time they've had girls call them crying, texting I miss you I love you blah blah blah. She might not ask for anything now to not scare you away but believe me its coming. Either way who cares? Next time you see here you'll have a great time together even if she doesn't work there anymore but try to keep thing in perspective. Another thing. Try to negotiate. I'm still getting 1500st and 2000 tln. 2500 is not to bad for a newbie but paying passions 5000 for 6pm is a waste of money imo. Why not get a massage and handjob for 500 and wait til you can barfine her for 2500 at midnight? Shes not going anywhere.

@StayCrunk29.

Well, she was so into you because you paid her salida for five days in a row. So she didn't have to suck 5 different dicks a day, just one. Also it was easier money for her. That's why she tried to manipulate you using her family to pay you for some VIP party. You might tested her with that money request from back home. She is not stupid when she said no.

But I bet you 1 passion chica for a day that she will ask you for money within a few months.

Please, don't fall in love with a puta

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1136129]I will not mention who this is because I respect her a lot. It turned out to be a great decision to take her though.[/QUOTE]Don't let me rain on your fantasy, but you do realize she is a hoe?

[QUOTE=Renegade23; 1136170]@StayCrunk29.

Well, she was so into you because you paid her salida for five days in a row. So she didn't have to suck 5 different dicks a day, just one. Also it was easier money for her. That's why she tried to manipulate you using her family to pay you for some VIP party. You might tested her with that money request from back home. She is not stupid when she said no.

But I bet you 1 passion chica for a day that she will ask you for money within a few months.

Please, don't fall in love with a puta[/QUOTE]This story is old as the world. Some people learn it at once, but others might take some time / money

[QUOTE=Renegade23; 1136170]@StayCrunk29.

Well, she was so into you because you paid her salida for five days in a row. So she didn't have to suck 5 different dicks a day, just one. Also it was easier money for her. That's why she tried to manipulate you using her family to pay you for some VIP party. You might tested her with that money request from back home. She is not stupid when she said no.

But I bet you 1 passion chica for a day that she will ask you for money within a few months.

Please, don't fall in love with a puta[/QUOTE]Love is blind, LOL. Some DR chicas can be very convincing, the Sirens, I have met one in a casa in SDQ, I could fall for her, (but I won't presently) , LOL.

Nice report I'm glad you had a great time! Don't know how much trouble it was for you to travel to DR, but I'm sure you told her you would be back to see her and the family soon? So when are you heading back? Do you really think a young lady (check Helpmann's HOW DO YOU NO IF SHE IS A HOE list) is in "LOVE" with you in only 6 days? But anyway glad you had a good time as always see you out front!

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1136129]Since I had come back she has been texting me and telling me she misses me. She will text me every couple hours and tell me how she is doing or what she is doing things of that sort. Now here is the stunner, I asked her if she needed anything to get by or help out and she said NO! She wants me to keep my money so I can come back to see her sooner. She said she just wants me by her said. I called her this morning about a half hour ago and she was pretty emotional on the phone. I think she fell in love with me for real. She says she did and I think I actually beleive her. I really don't know what to say other than the fact that she is really cool. I totaly understand what she does for a living and I'm not judging the girl at all. She has to do what she has to do, but this girl is different than all the rest of the passions girls.[/QUOTE]My good man this is what DR do best, It takes you on a fantasy ride. Pussy so damn good you'll be seeing pink elephants and flying unicorns LMAO. But best believe once you leave that island REALITY set in and your thinking about sending money to a woman that works in Passions. I repeat Passions! U do realize that in this board alone half of the mongers have already smashed her and the other half is going to go down to passions next time down and find your broad and smash her just to say he did it. And I'm one of them LOL.

Seriously I'm glad you had a good time with your honey but please don't let fantasy rule reality. Espeacially when you live a million miles away from her. So until your next trip enjoy the memories, be cool and breathe life in.

PS next time down you need to be trying to smash her sisters or the mother on the low

[quote=mr gogo; 1135873]its still pussy walking around in the evening hours, but the girls have to be going somewhere not just posted up. the dominicanos that hang out in sosua say there are internal problems. the police perform their harassment in waves. also i got my first racism claim from a couple dominican dudes who stated"the white boys are trying to take over". also they don't like the police killing their city. but this came from a couple broke ass dominicanos.

this broke ass dominicano also stayed that president fernandez was behind this sosua change. i said to him"lionel doesn't give a fuck about little ass sosua". he said lionel is invested heavily in punta cana and that the sosua mayor is from the opposing party, so she gets the blame and it increases traffic to punta cana. i said" punta cana doesn't want single guys" and he didn't like me constantly challenging his knowledge. so take it for what its worth.

also the bikini party at ng was cancelled. when i was there ng was very quiet and not full. they have also stopped parking on the el flow side of the street at night, why? the pharmacy next to new garden is no longer there hmmm. one last thing, i noticed more guys bringing dates into classicos. this must mean that alot of girls are scared to come to sosua alone, and guys are maintaining their connections either by phone or western union. ohh and domincans are allowed into classicos without a cover.[/quote]fyi, i went to the farmacia next to new garden an hour ago so it is in fact still open. also, someone posted that they got fake cialis there, i promised the board i would try some from there and see the results and there is a young lady walking bowlegged in sosua due to the results i got from taking them, so whatever.

they stopped allowing parking on the el flow side of the street to improve the traffic flow according to the police, could be another reason but that is what i was told. it makes sense to me though.

i asked lorenzo the owner of ng about the bikini contest being canceled and he said it wasn't canceled, it is this coming weekend. i attended the last one and even though there were only six contestants there were about 75 working girls there as spectators, i highly recommend it.

no offense to anybody but all this talk about the demise of sosua really burns my britches because it is nothing but bullshit in plain english. i originally scheduled a five day trip and extended it to eight because i am having such a good time.

the last few days at ng was slow but today a bunch of guys came in, judging from the board behind the reception desk where they keep the keys i would say they are three quarters full and it is monday.

i have been to classico's, latino's, rumba, el flow and passions to name the big names and they all have been packed. my first night here i was in passions until 2 a. m. and they literally ran out of girls, they had all been taken out, except two.

i take a nap and start my night at nine o'clock at el flow and go until at least 3. i can confidently say that on a typical night between the above mentioned clubs there are 300 plus girls, every size, shape, and color. now maybe in its heyday there would have been 500 girls but wtf how many girls does one need to choose from?

if a guy can't find what he wants here you have serious fucking problems. as i am writing this the guy at the next table over from me summed it up perfect "sosua is disneyland for men". i couldn't have put it better myself.

saying sosua is dying or dead is like having the red sox go 25-0 to begin the season and then saying they suck when they lose their first game, fucking stupid really.

of course this is just my opinion and ymmv.

oh, one more thing. there is a new strip club on pedro clisante called the banana peel. if you are heading towards passions it is on the right just before you get to passions. if i have time i will check it out and inform the members of what i see.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1136129]Saturday there was a concert in puerto plata. She paid for both our tickets the day before and never asked me for money. On out way to the concert we met up with her two sisters (who were smoking hot as well) and her primo who was really cool. We ended up getting a VIP table and a bottle of grey goose. The waiter brought the bill and it showed the price in USA dollars and Road. It was 109. 00 USA I was like shit, cause the guy gave me the bill. Then all of a sudden she took the bill out of my hands and her and her sexy sister went to go pay. I partied all night until 5am with her and her family and they picked up the tab all night.[/QUOTE]I wonder if she and the waiter were in cahoots over this. No one in their right mind would pay over $100 for a bottle of vodka even if it is a trendy brand, and the bottle may have contained a much cheaper generic brand of spirit. Vodka is tasteless. There is a scam a minute going on the in the DR, believe me.

Oh, well. Have fun. Good luck!

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29; 1136129]Since I had come back she has been texting me and telling me she misses me. She will text me every couple hours and tell me how she is doing or what she is doing things of that sort. Now here is the stunner, I asked her if she needed anything to get by or help out and she said NO! She wants me to keep my money so I can come back to see her sooner. She said she just wants me by her said. I called her this morning about a half hour ago and she was pretty emotional on the phone. I think she fell in love with me for real. She says she did and I think I actually beleive her. I really don't know what to say other than the fact that she is really cool. I totaly understand what she does for a living and I'm not judging the girl at all. She has to do what she has to do, but this girl is different than all the rest of the passions girls.

Anyway I had a great time and I want to give a shout out to MR GOGO. Sorry I didn't call but as you can tell from my report I was a bit occupied. Thanks for all the info and I hope you had a great time as well[/QUOTE]Damn, somebody got bit by the Sosua love bug HARD! I am glad you had a fun trip, but for your own safety please avoid eye contact with solid yellow and black colors and the letters W and U.

I think we are going to have to set up a "de-briefing" station at POP and require that all single American men go through it before being allowed to enter back into the US. It would be for their own safety and it's purpose would be to remind gents that although you are at the "Six Flags" of the Caribbean the "rides" can be somewhat addictive, but you cannot take the rides with you back home, lol. Another monger said it best long ago: "Would you send Six Flags a money transfer every month long after visiting their theme park (Western Union Novios)?"

[QUOTE=Frannie;1136267]I wonder if she and the waiter were in cahoots over this. No one in their right mind would pay over $100 for a bottle of vodka even if it is a trendy brand, and the bottle may have contained a much cheaper generic brand of spirit. Vodka is tasteless. There is a scam a minute going on the in the DR, believe me.[/QUOTE]He wasn't scammed. Five people at a VIP table for a top artist with a name brand bottle of spirits included would normally cost at least 4000 pesos.

They were charging 400 to 600 pesos per person just for admission to general areas for Frank Reyes and Zacarías Ferreira concerts three years ago (drinks not included) so what he paid doesn't seem outrageous.

All vodka tastes the same to me but I am not a drinker. Sure they may have given him some generic stuff but that could equally apply at any bar in the DR (or elsewhere for that matter).

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1136298]He wasn't scammed. Five people at a VIP table for a top artist with a name brand bottle of spirits included would normally cost at least 4000 pesos.

They were charging 400 to 600 pesos per person just for admission to general areas for Frank Reyes and Zacarías Ferreira concerts three years ago (drinks not included) so what he paid doesn't seem outrageous.

All vodka tastes the same to me but I am not a drinker. Sure they may have given him some generic stuff but that could equally apply at any bar in the DR (or elsewhere for that matter).[/QUOTE]Over $100US, is the going rate I have seen in DR for a bottle of vodka or whiskey. In Passions in Santiago, I visited the place before (same night I had seen Mr. Pooter in Puerto Plata) midnight and many of the tables had bottles of cranberry juice on the tables, for the clients who would come in later and order bottles of vodka.

For a group of 4 or more people, might be cheaper to buy a bottle in a bar in DR, rather than pay for individual drinks. Belvedere and Grey Goose vodkas are popular in the DR. Some vodkas are smoother than others, if you want to lose your mind for a little while, vodka will help take you there.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1136298]He wasn't scammed. Five people at a VIP table for a top artist with a name brand bottle of spirits included would normally cost at least 4000 pesos.

They were charging 400 to 600 pesos per person just for admission to general areas for Frank Reyes and Zacarías Ferreira concerts three years ago (drinks not included) so what he paid doesn't seem outrageous.

All vodka tastes the same to me but I am not a drinker. Sure they may have given him some generic stuff but that could equally apply at any bar in the DR (or elsewhere for that matter). [/QUOTE]You are probably right, Pooter. I'm not a drinker either, and it seems to me that all the marketing of expensive wines and spirits is basically a scam, because all alcoholic drinks contain the same ethyl alcohol and have the same effect on your brain. As for the VIP table, it is also the case that any time you pay a lot of money for a drink, you are basically paying for the table, the chair, the ambience, the music, the view, or something other than the cheap industrially produced alcoholic drink.

Actually 400-600 pesos for admission to Frank Reyes seems like good value when you compare it to the US$200 per ticket my buddy paid to see an aging Paul McCartney with his wife and 2 kids last year, especially as he had to leave half way through because the kids were so bored. A lot of working Dominicans would have been able to afford to see Reyes, who-if he writes his own songs-is a pretty talented individual in his prime.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29; 1136129]Since I had come back she has been texting me and telling me she misses me. She will text me every couple hours and tell me how she is doing or what she is doing things of that sort. Now here is the stunner, I asked her if she needed anything to get by or help out and she said NO! She wants me to keep my money so I can come back to see her sooner. She said she just wants me by her said. I called her this morning about a half hour ago and she was pretty emotional on the phone. I think she fell in love with me for real. She says she did and I think I actually beleive her. I really don't know what to say other than the fact that she is really cool. I totaly understand what she does for a living and I'm not judging the girl at all. She has to do what she has to do, but this girl is different than all the rest of the passions girls.

Anyway I had a great time and I want to give a shout out to MR GOGO. Sorry I didn't call but as you can tell from my report I was a bit occupied. Thanks for all the info and I hope you had a great time as well[/QUOTE]Man, you got it worse than me!

A lot of what you said applies to the situation with me and my novia, but I would never call it love in the real sense.

We are being set up for some kind of permanent relationship which includes financial support.

Don't get me wrong, it can be a beautiful thing as long as you keep it affordable, but it ain't love!

But then what is love, if its not two people doing their darndest to make the other one happy!

Confusing to say the least!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1136290]I think we are going to have to set up a "de-briefing" station at POP and require that all single American men go through it before being allowed to enter back into the US. It would be for their own safety and it's purpose would be to remind gents that although you are at the "Six Flags" of the Caribbean the "rides" can be somewhat addictive, but you cannot take the rides with you back home, lol. Another monger said it best long ago: "Would you send Six Flags a money transfer every month long after visiting their theme park (Western Union Novios)?"[/QUOTE]LMFAO! There's a saying,"Truth often comes in jest"! Nice one SP LOL

[QUOTE=Frannie;1136302]Actually 400-600 pesos for admission to Frank Reyes seems like good value ... A lot of working Dominicans would have been able to afford to see Reyes, who - if he writes his own songs - is a pretty talented individual in his prime.[/QUOTE]I love bachata and when I first came to the DR was excited to be able to see the top stars up close for, as you say, reasonable prices. Now I am a bit older and a lot more tired it takes a group of friends to nag me into joining them. Unless you pay the VIP prices to reserve a table near the stage you have to arrive at 9.00pm to get a good view, then have to wait for anything up to four hours for the star to appear. That means buying rounds of drinks I don't really need (being, like you, a very moderate drinker) and suffering the invariably insanely loud and distorting sound systems, so I usually have a headache by the time the main act starts.

So most of my bachata listening is done at home via CDs nowadays. I would make an exception for my all-time favorite, Raulín Rodríguez, as I have always managed to miss him on the relatively few occasions he has appeared on the North Coast.

But I have come to the conclusion that the Golden Age of Bachata is well past. For me that was around 2002 to 2007.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1136320]I love bachata and when I first came to the DR was excited to be able to see the top stars up close for, as you say, reasonable prices. Now I am a bit older and a lot more tired it takes a group of friends to nag me into joining them. Unless you pay the VIP prices to reserve a table near the stage you have to arrive at 9. 00pm to get a good view, then have to wait for anything up to four hours for the star to appear. That means buying rounds of drinks I don't really need (being, like you, a very moderate drinker) and suffering the invariably insanely loud and distorting sound systems, so I usually have a headache by the time the main act starts.

So most of my bachata listening is done at home via CDs nowadays. I would make an exception for my all-time favorite, Raulíand Rodríguez, as I have always managed to miss him on the relatively few occasions he has appeared on the North Coast.

But I have come to the conclusion that the Golden Age of Bachata is well past. For me that was around 2002 to 2007. [/QUOTE]Yes, I think Cuando Se Quiere Se Puede is a brilliant album that really defines bachata. A kind of equivalent to Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as a collection of songs that go together well. And just to keep this on topic for mongering, the last track, Quítate la Ropa is the ultimate mongering anthem.

A contemporary look at the Odyssey and the Sirens (a three thousand year old story) , the Sirens through seduction lured men to do things against the men's own self best interest, a clip from the Coens' flick "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" (Song of the Sirens) : [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0DlW2Hbyew[/url]

P. S. Falling in love with a puta, may not be in a guy's best self interest.

[quote=manizales911; 1136264]fyi, i went to the farmacia next to new garden an hour ago so it is in fact still open. also, someone posted that they got fake cialis there, i promised the board i would try some from there and see the results and there is a young lady walking bowlegged in sosua due to the results i got from taking them, so whatever.

they stopped allowing parking on the el flow side of the street to improve the traffic flow according to the police, could be another reason but that is what i was told. it makes sense to me though.

i asked lorenzo the owner of ng about the bikini contest being canceled and he said it wasn't canceled, it is this coming weekend. i attended the last one and even though there were only six contestants there were about 75 working girls there as spectators, i highly recommend it.

no offense to anybody but all this talk about the demise of sosua really burns my britches because it is nothing but bullshit in plain english. i originally scheduled a five day trip and extended it to eight because i am having such a good time.

the last few days at ng was slow but today a bunch of guys came in, judging from the board behind the reception desk where they keep the keys i would say they are three quarters full and it is monday.

i have been to classico's, latino's, rumba, el flow and passions to name the big names and they all have been packed. my first night here i was in passions until 2 am and they literally ran out of girls, they had all been taken out, except two.

i take a nap and start my night at nine o'clock at el flow and go until at least 3. i can confidently say that on a typical night between the above mentioned clubs there are 300 plus girls, every size, shape, and color. now maybe in its heyday there would have been 500 girls but wtf how many girls does one need to choose from?

if a guy can't find what he wants here you have serious fucking problems. as i am writing this the guy at the next table over from me summed it up perfect "sosua is disneyland for men". i couldn't have put it better myself.

saying sosua is dying or dead is like having the red sox go 25-0 to begin the season and then saying they suck when they lose their first game, fucking stupid really.

of course this is just my opinion and ymmv.

oh, one more thing. there is a new strip club on pedro clisante called the banana peel. if you are heading towards passions it is on the right just before you get to passions. if i have time i will check it out and inform the members of what i see. [/quote]we cool mani, but i was also told new garden was 75% full and that speaks for itself. it was always full and beyond before. and how does it make sense to stop traffic flow on one side of the street when before it was no problem? lorenzo told you the contest was cancelleled because new garden was slow, i was there, read between the lines my friend. six contestants but 75 spectators says it all, read between the lines my brother. please don't try to justify this bull shit. i respect the fact that you think the new sosua is bs, but i know you are a strong minded individual and think what you want. i saved the e mail response where they said it was supposed to be a contest, please don't call me a lie because you know i would never lie to you. incidently monday a big group checked in and jenny asked when we were laeving, so now that they have a big group its on. but still 6 out of 75 should raise questions. have you even noticed the influx of europeans, come on now you can't miss it, be honest.

also i respect your opinion and your correct, there is still pussy in sosua. but after going to classicos for five straight nights its the same pussy. before girls werent afraid to come from the outter towns to hustle and then you could get a jem. now its just recycled. and one final thing my friend and i'm sincere about this, el flow has played out rumba is the new el flow.

Hey Staycrunk, man don't ever throw raw meat into a pool of pirrahnnas.

What I am talking about is your, she's the ahem. One story. I thought I found.

The. Ahem. One, then I read other mongers, finding the. Ahem. One.

I quickly found out my. Ahem. One wasnt, what she seemed, my so called.

One, never asked for nothing. At first then little by little, I started learning.

Shortcuts to all my Western Unions, I started on first name basis with western union.

Employees I was there so much, I spent a helluva lot of money, when it.

Was over, I'm a newbie, and can't type worth a crap, but I'm not going to.

Tell a love story, from a hoe house, I hope you prove us wrong, but then.

Again you have a better chance getting struck by lightning, winning the lotto.

Or walking through hell with a 3 pieced gasoline suit on. Peace my brutha.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1136437]Hey Staycrunk, man don't ever throw raw meat into a pool of pirrahnnas.

What I am talking about is your, she's the ahem. One story. I thought I found.

The. Ahem. One, then I read other mongers, finding the. Ahem. One.

I quickly found out my. Ahem. One wasnt, what she seemed, my so called.

One, never asked for nothing. At first then little by little, I started learning.

Shortcuts to all my Western Unions, I started on first name basis with western union.

Employees I was there so much, I spent a helluva lot of money, when it.

Was over, I'm a newbie, and can't type worth a crap, but I'm not going to.

Tell a love story, from a hoe house, I hope you prove us wrong, but then.

Again you have a better chance getting struck by lightning, winning the lotto.

Or walking through hell with a 3 pieced gasoline suit on. Peace my brutha. [/QUOTE]Well said. LOL. I will keep you updated. We will see, but yeah she will ask for something sooner or later. I still had a great time while I was there though.

I'm looking forward to going back in may and then in August. You going to be there anytime soon.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1136304]Man, you got it worse than me!

A lot of what you said applies to the situation with me and my novia, but I would never call it love in the real sense.

We are being set up for some kind of permanent relationship which includes financial support.

Don't get me wrong, it can be a beautiful thing as long as you keep it affordable, but it ain't love!

But then what is love, if its not two people doing their darndest to make the other one happy!

Confusing to say the least! [/QUOTE]I agree. Love to me is a feeling or level of comfort and moral, or emotional support. Knowing you can depend on a person because they love you. I don't love this girl in any way, but I do like her. She has a great heart so if she needs something small I don't mind helping her out because when I'm there she treats me like a king.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1136290]Damn, somebody got bit by the Sosua love bug HARD! I am glad you had a fun trip, but for your own safety please avoid eye contact with solid yellow and black colors and the letters W and U.

I think we are going to have to set up a "de-briefing" station at POP and require that all single American men go through it before being allowed to enter back into the US. It would be for their own safety and it's purpose would be to remind gents that although you are at the "Six Flags" of the Caribbean the "rides" can be somewhat addictive, but you cannot take the rides with you back home, LOL. Another monger said it best long ago: "Would you send Six Flags a money transfer every month long after visiting their theme park (Western Union Novios)?"[/QUOTE]LMAO! Well put. That was pretty good. In that sense of speaking your are right on the money.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1136267]I wonder if she and the waiter were in cahoots over this. No one in their right mind would pay over $100 for a bottle of vodka even if it is a trendy brand, and the bottle may have contained a much cheaper generic brand of spirit. Vodka is tasteless. There is a scam a minute going on the in the DR, believe me.

Oh, well. Have fun. Good luck! [/QUOTE]I'm not sure about the vodka. It really didn't matter to me. They picked up the tab for me all night. I didn't spend a dime.

Yeah I think all of you guys are right. I know some guy has a few inches of dick in her right now. Its the name of the game. Now that I have read all the replys I sat back and thought logicly about my situation. All of you are right. I can't turn a ho into a housewife and I can't bring disney land back home.

It is alot to all take in on the first trip. Everything was way better than I expected. Girls, food, everything you could possibly imagine. I plan on going back in May and then again in August.

I will keep in touch with her, maybe if I'm there and she isn't available I willl pay her sister a visit. LOL. She was pretty sexy. I would love to smash that pussy. I think when I'm there next time maybe I can get both of them at the same time. LOL. That would be even better.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1136580]I agree. Love to me is a feeling or level of comfort and moral, or emotional support. Knowing you can depend on a person because they love you. I don't love this girl in any way, but I do like her. She has a great heart so if she needs something small I don't mind helping her out because when I'm there she treats me like a king.[/QUOTE]As I reported many times before, after my first visit to Sosua I was headed to the airport singing Spanish love songs, and I didn't even speak Spanish then. LMAO.

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1136587]I will keep in touch with her, maybe if I'm there and she isn't available I willl pay her sister a visit. LOL. She was pretty sexy. I would love to smash that pussy. I think when I'm there next time maybe I can get both of them at the same time. LOL. That would be even better.[/QUOTE]Now that's the spirit! Never lose sight of why you went down there in the first place: Not to fall in love, but to smash as many "pretty sexy" hunnies in the limited time (and monetary funds) you have to work with. When you you get tired of pros, then you can move up to the semi and non-pros once you can pull yourself away from Sosua and explore other areas (be careful: according to many members on this board there is no such thing as a "non-pro" if she sleeps with a gringo. That is a topic that last for days, if not weeks on this thread, LOL).

Just to show you that this is a universal problem is not just specific to the DR:

[QUOTE=Musze3000; 1094378]Sperto, very well said and truth behind every word!

Guys, don't try to be "Captain-Save-A-Ho"!

I've seen guys refinance, put all expenses with Pro's on credit cards, ruin their financial lives in Rio because of falling in love with a pro! This has been said over and over on this site, when you are in a relationship with a Pro you are in a relationship with her entire family! I don't mean just her kids or her Mom, her entire family (Mom, Dad, kids sisters, brothers, cousins, second cousins and so on) This is who you become financially responsible for!

Here is another thing; a pro and even non pro Brazilian girls will call most guys in her life that are around her family her cousins! Don't be fooled! These are not real cousins they are just guys they have known since they were kids or teenagers and they bang each other whenever they want! It's so funny, every time I've met a girl in Brazil and she talks about her real close guy cousins I ask: "are they really your cousin or is that who you fuck for fun?" They laugh every time!

Musze3000.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1094378&viewfull=1#post1094378[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StayCrunk29;1136580]I agree. Love to me is a feeling or level of comfort and moral, or emotional support. Knowing you can depend on a person because they love you. I don't love this girl in any way, but I do like her. She has a great heart so if she needs something small I don't mind helping her out because when I'm there she treats me like a king.[/QUOTE]Priceless!

Now I know we're fucking the same novia, LOL.

We are being played like a cheap fiddle, amigo, but in their hands it truly is a virtuoso performance.

I thought our relationship was something very special, (still do) but it seems its being played out with regularity all over the DR.

But enjoy the ride my friend, as these last two years have been the happiest of my life!

Had a blast! A great little town, but the action (lots of it!) seems to be concentrated into a very small block or two. A monger might find that a whole week there would be a mite repetitious, as there aren't the number of different locations to check out, as in good ol' Sosua.

Checked out early on Sunday. Novia's room which they made me paid for was never used. What a waste!

Checked with the amigos around the lobby for bus info to Punta Cana. They all shook their heads, but one taxi guy offered to take us to the bus station. The connections seemed complicated and tiring. Boca Chica. La Romana. Higuey. Punta Cana, so we made a deal for the taxi to take us straight to Punta Cana for 160 US. Turned out to be a good move.

Once on the road, Princessa has instant rapport with driver and sends him out for snacks, drink and cigarettes for me, selects some music from his CD collection, and we're on our way. Life is good.

3 hours or so later we're at the Punta Cana resort, a huge area comprising 3 hotels, villas, and their own airport. We drive around for half an our looking for the right entrance. Stop at the gatehouse, where driver (not us) has to pull out all his I'd before they let him through, then another seems like half an hour to get to the main lobby.

Buddy, wife and teenage daughters meet us in the lobby, and they check each other out. Princessa left her "just come from disco" look in the suitcase, so she is dressed appropriately, bless her! The hotel is full they say and had trouble getting a room for us, but to us the whole place looks deserted, and judging by the empty micro bar in the lobby, this ain't no party place!

That's the whole point, buddy says. They are staying in a villa on a nearly deserted beach and you get around by shuttle or golf cart. Princessa is impressed, but everything is a high end big deal and we don't get to our room for another couple hours. I long for the familiar informality of Casa Marina and the Hamaca. We walk back to the lobby and ask ride to buddy's villa, I give them name and villa number but they say no one there by that name and no such unit No. Sheeesh!

Call buddy and he says stay there, we'll come and get you. He shows up later and explains they are at another hotel in the complex 15 mins away. Another Sheeesh! This ain't the Dominican Rep, that I know and love, much too formal, and its 2 hours after arriving before we get that first cold Presidente!

2 days on the beach, a couple dinners (including my birthday) at a local high end restaurant and that's about it. A very relaxed time and everybody got along just fine.

On Tuesday, back to La Romano for me and on to San Juan for her. Buddy and I give her some pesos for the family (he's met them) , but by the weekend she's texting for a little money for her birthday party. What happened to the money we gave you? She says she bought a macina to clean her clothes. WTF is that? I ask."a washing machine".

Lord, they soon catch on.

Anyway Buddy and I and Princessa will be in Sosua in April, this time in a condo.

Can't wait!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1136325]Yes, I think Cuando Se Quiere Se Puede is a brilliant album that really defines bachata. A kind of equivalent to Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as a collection of songs that go together well. And just to keep this on topic for mongering, the last track, Quítate la Ropa is the ultimate mongering anthem.[/QUOTE]True that, the video has that ridiculously cheesy touch, and the lyrics in spanish are just... hilarious.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lY-_yzFpB0[/url]

My Novia has created a woderfull illusion. Disney world has nothing on my girl. She makes me feel 20 years younger. When I talk to her on the phone my dick gets hard sans viagra. If she has reasonable requests I got no problem P4P is about getting your monies worth. Muy contento.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1136816]Priceless!

Now I know we're fucking the same novia, LOL.

We are being played like a cheap fiddle, amigo, but in their hands it truly is a virtuoso performance.

I thought our relationship was something very special, (still do) but it seems its being played out with regularity all over the DR.

But enjoy the ride my friend, as these last two years have been the happiest of my life! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike Hammer; 1136854]True that, the video has that ridiculously cheesy touch, and the lyrics in spanish are just. Hilarious.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lY-_yzFpB0[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link, but Frannie was talking about a different song from a different artist in a different style of music (merengue). Close enough for government work, I suppose.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1136974]Thanks for the link, but Frannie was talking about a different song from a different artist in a different style of music (merengue). Close enough for government work, I suppose.[/QUOTE]I was going to say the same thing, but held back for fear of posting off topic with regard to the noble sport of mongering.

But it's bachata, not merengue!

Oakie,

Good reporting! Seems like a you had a good time. Me personally I wouldve had my girl dress with the skimpiest outfit known to God the whole time. I could give a fuck what people think. It's like over here in Vegas. You'll regularly see a 60yr old fat gut man with a 22yr old blond with fake ass tities rockin 8inch heels and a mini skirt and the old fat guy could careless what you think. U know why cus he got money.

Ooh and I know some of the mongers already said it on the boca board but don't be slipping on your pimpin. What I mean is don't let her get so comftable that she start doing and touching things she ain't suppose to touch I. E. The camera. It damn near wouldve been an Ike and Anna Mae moment if a honey deleted my pictures LOL

[QUOTE=Frannie;1137000]But it's bachata, not merengue![/QUOTE]I would call that track merengue but my girlfriend, whom I met "taxi-dancing" in a local club, says they used to dance bachata steps to it there. It is certainly in the style of the original music from which bachata, merengue, and tipico all separately evolved.

Sosua is my fav place in the world. Is anyone down there now. And heard any gossip about the kidnapping of two Canadians?

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1138954]Sosua is my fav place in the world. Is anyone down there now. And heard any gossip about the kidnapping of two Canadians?[/QUOTE]Plenty about it on dr1. Apparently it relates to a drug deal gone bad months (or was it years?) ago. Nothing for honest, law-abiding citizens (like all the members of this board) to worry about.

The one I speak of happened last week on Pedro Clisante.

Rocky's will be featuring March Madness on the 'big screen', Saturday. First game 6pm. Second game about 9pm.

Edit / Delete Message.

Site seems to be gone. Is the place still open?

[QUOTE=Thedrman; 1022916]It's a hotel for mongers who also want to get a taste of Latin American culture while they are here in Puerto Plata / Sosua connecting with some of the hottest young chicas in the world.

Check out this post:

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Or this web site:

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For more info.

We also offer airport pickup / dropoff service to any Puerto Plata or Costambar location and local cell phone rental (set up in English).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1139114]Plenty about it on dr1. Apparently it relates to a drug deal gone bad months (or was it years?) ago. Nothing for honest, law-abiding citizens (like all the members of this board) to worry about.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that Charles. I made my first trip down last month with many return trips planned for the future and I was getting a bit worried. Honestly, I felt perfectly safe during my entire stay. I walked most of the time or hopped a motocancho (sp?) to get around if it would have taken more than 10 minutes walking to get there. Heck, at the Popular, there's a guard posted up outside by the ATM at night (the one near the square and just north of NG and the farmacia) with a shotgun.

[QUOTE=Delta Flier;1139362]Thanks for that Charles. I made my first trip down last month with many return trips planned for the future and I was getting a bit worried. Honestly, I felt perfectly safe during my entire stay. I walked most of the time or hopped a motocancho (sp?) to get around if it would have taken more than 10 minutes walking to get there. Heck, at the Popular, there's a guard posted up outside by the ATM at night (the one near the square and just north of NG and the farmacia) with a shotgun.[/QUOTE]In nearly all incidents of ex-pats or (even more rarely) visitors being involved in violent crime or kidnapping it turns out they have chosen to associate with shady characters or are participating in illegal or controversial activities (drugs, money-lending, etc). Mongers who don't get drunk, or otherwise go out of their way to draw attention to themselves or insist on having the last word in disputes with locals, have little to fear.

I was mugged myself with a knife to my throat by two guys but that because I was walking home up an unlit lane in a rough area after midnight despite numerous warnings from my condos manager and other residents not to do that sort of thing. Stupidly, I thought I knew better and I was lucky to get away with the loss of 80 pesos (although I was carrying over 12000 and a half-decent camera). I learned my lesson cheaply.

Use more common sense that I did on that occasion and the DR (even Sosúa, which attracts lowlifes from the rest of the DR) is no more dangerous than other places, and a lot less dangerous than some.

Hey all,

I made a travel announcement but it hasn't been posted yet (no a SM) but I'll be in Sosua from 4/5. 4/7. Yes, short but I have the ability to go down more often than most would so I choose to go on off days. Anyway, I emailed ahead for reservations at the Europa and the guy lady quoted me $40USD / night which I found to be pretty good considering NG is asking for $60. My only issue is this. I've heard of NG chicas through reading reports. I did stay at NG the last time which was my first time there. I saw some girls but none looked like they were working. Granted this was my first trip so maybe I didn't ask the right people the right questions. How do I go about asking for a NG chica? IS it as plain as BB?

Basically, I know NG. The free hot breakfast was great, the pool is great and the location is pretty damn central. I just don't want to go to Europa to save $20 / night and be disappointed. Any thoughts on one versus the other?

[QUOTE=Delta Flier; 1140028]Hey all,

I made a travel announcement but it hasn't been posted yet (no a SM) but I'll be in Sosua from 4/5. 4/7. Yes, short but I have the ability to go down more often than most would so I choose to go on off days. Anyway, I emailed ahead for reservations at the Europa and the guy lady quoted me $40USD / night which I found to be pretty good considering NG is asking for $60. My only issue is this. I've heard of NG chicas through reading reports. I did stay at NG the last time which was my first time there. I saw some girls but none looked like they were working. Granted this was my first trip so maybe I didn't ask the right people the right questions. How do I go about asking for a NG chica? IS it as plain as BB?

Basically, I know NG. The free hot breakfast was great, the pool is great and the location is pretty damn central. I just don't want to go to Europa to save $20 / night and be disappointed. Any thoughts on one versus the other? [/QUOTE]I like Plaza Europa. If you pay in cash the rooms are cheaper. I believe you can bargain also. They have apartments on the other side which are around $30 / Night. Some apartments are good. There is a small pool there also. It is nice and secluded with full security at night. I am sure if you tell the lady $35 / Night for the rooms upstairs paying cash upfront she will agree.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man69;1139271]Site seems to be gone. Is the place still open?[/QUOTE][url]Http://themantour.info/[/url]

[QUOTE=Sammon;1140088]I like Plaza Europa. If you pay in cash the rooms are cheaper. I believe you can bargain also. They have apartments on the other side which are around $30 / Night. Some apartments are good. There is a small pool there also. It is nice and secluded with full security at night. I am sure if you tell the lady $35 / Night for the rooms upstairs paying cash upfront she will agree.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sammon. I seem to remember the Europa isn't too far from the NG. Maybe 5 minutes walking distance. I feel like I walked past it a few times while I was down there. If I'm not mistaken, it isn't too far off from NG, the farmacia, Popular Banco, and the square?

The way I look at it, that's an extra $800RD or $1500RD saved for those 2 days. That's pretty much an extra chica ST! LOL

Thanks! Looks like just what I am looking for. Anyone sty there recently?

[QUOTE=John Dough;1140151][url]Http://themantour.info/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Delta Flier; 1140028]Hey all,

I made a travel announcement but it hasn't been posted yet (no a SM) but I'll be in Sosua from 4/5. 4/7. Yes, short but I have the ability to go down more often than most would so I choose to go on off days. Anyway, I emailed ahead for reservations at the Europa and the guy lady quoted me $40USD / night which I found to be pretty good considering NG is asking for $60. My only issue is this. I've heard of NG chicas through reading reports. I did stay at NG the last time which was my first time there. I saw some girls but none looked like they were working. Granted this was my first trip so maybe I didn't ask the right people the right questions. How do I go about asking for a NG chica? IS it as plain as BB?

Basically, I know NG. The free hot breakfast was great, the pool is great and the location is pretty damn central. I just don't want to go to Europa to save $20 / night and be disappointed. Any thoughts on one versus the other?[/QUOTE]The Europa is a dump compared to NG but to each his own.

The girls hanging around NG are strictly freelancers and do not work for NG, they just are allowed to sit by the pool. There are usually only a few and they come and go and by early evening they usually all head to Pedro Clisante or go home. Remember, you are a two minute walk to all the girls you need or want on Pedro Clisante.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1140331]The Europa is a dump compared to NG but to each his own.

The girls hanging around NG are strictly freelancers and do not work for NG, they just are allowed to sit by the pool. There are usually only a few and they come and go and by early evening they usually all head to Pedro Clisante or go home. Remember, you are a two minute walk to all the girls you need or want on Pedro Clisante. [/QUOTE]I agree with Manizales. The Europa is a true dump. New Garden is half a dump. If one lives in virtual "vacation squalor" just to save $20 per night, then perhaps one should not go on vacation?

[QUOTE=Patrk39;1141444]I agree with Manizales. The Europa is a true dump. New Garden is half a dump. If one lives in virtual "vacation squalor" just to save $20 per night, then perhaps one should not go on vacation?[/QUOTE]Worst place I have ever stayed the Europa. There is too many more options for 40 dollars like Sea Breeze Hotel or the one behind Passions.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man69;1140180]Thanks! Looks like just what I am looking for. Anyone sty there recently?[/QUOTE] [url]Http://themantour.info/[/url] Thats interesting. Last time I checked he was out of the hotel business.

I have my boots on the ground in Sosua for a couple of days. If anyone wants to get together PM me.

Mr Enternational, you are everywhere bro! I can never catch up with you...lol.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1141680]I have my boots on the ground in Sosua for a couple of days. If anyone wants to get together PM me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1141680]I have my boots on the ground in Sosua for a couple of days. If anyone wants to get together PM me.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to your take on the New Sosua.

[QUOTE=Delta Flier;1140028]I saw some girls but none looked like they were working. Granted this was my first trip so maybe I didn't ask the right people the right questions. How do I go about asking for a NG chica? IS it as plain as BB?[/QUOTE]Any girl sitting around the NG pool is working. Just make eye contact and smile. The next thing you know she will be making her sales pitch. The girls can smell new money and newbies. They were all over me as I tried to check into my room.

[QUOTE=John from NJ;1141897]Any girl sitting around the NG pool is working. Just make eye contact and smile. The next thing you know she will be making her sales pitch. The girls can smell new money and newbies. They were all over me as I tried to check into my room.[/QUOTE]Well, they could be with someone else, or waiting for someone else, but I agree just smile and make eye contact, ask them their names. If they aren't available now, they soon will be, and remember that they are the hunters and you are the prey, so don't let them think you are easy meat. When they hit on you, act reluctant, say you are tired, make excuses, but at the same time tell them they are cute, pretty, INTELLIGENT (they love to be told that even though it is a downright lie!) and you WISH you could be with them, but a chica stole your wallet and now you only have x hundred pesos left to last 3 days. They will soon figure out a way to get that x hundred pesos off you, and will be proud of their business acumen.

That's how you work with Dominicanas.

This place is not live like it used to be, however there were still plenty of chicas walking up in Classicos last night. (By the way they are charging us 200 pesos now to go in.) I don't think anyone was in Latino's. I sat across at the fast food place watching and people would go in and come right back out. There is hardly anyone at the bars in front of Latino's and Classico's. Those places used to be packed. Some of the bars from before are shut down and rotting.

There was nobody cooking on the street like before. I left the hotel last night in search of chicken and plantain but there was nothing. If not for the new place across from Latino's I would have been assed out. I have no idea about the beach even though I am staying on it. But I will stop and see if anything is going on when I get back from diving tomorrow. I'm not a La Passion fan. I just don't see going there over and over to see the same chicks and to me the prices are outrageous for these parts. Tonight I will try to do some recon on CMP and the new place (bar I think) that opened up between CMP and La Passion.

Although this place is not as fun as it used to be if your goal is just to find some chicks to fuck after 11pm or midnight then Sosua, and in particular Classico's, is where you want to go. If you want much else then I don't know what to tell you.

I rented a car from Ace / Nelly in Santo Domingo to be returned in Santiago on the 7th. $148. I hit the road heading north. Since I have not been in DR for a while I had to buy a new SIM. I stopped at a grocery store on 27 Feb in the capital and bought a Claro SIM for 290 pesos. The max the ATM in the grocery store would let me take out was 2000 pesos. I jumped back on the road and started texting and calling my non-pros to let them know I was in the country. Soon I received a text from a number that was not in my phone. It was from the girl who sold me the SIM card. What the fuck? But it was cool for me. I can always use an extra non-pro. I invited her up to Puerto Plata (I never tell non-pros I am staying in Sosua until they are actually on their way. Then I act like I think it is the same place.) but she is only off on the weekends. So that one goes to the back burner.

I arrived in Santiago and checked in with my #1 there but she now works evenings. She told me that she would leave the house at 6am the next morning to come see me in Sosua but she would have to leave going back at 2pm to be on time for work. I was about 30 minutes out of Puerto Plata when my married girl started blowing me up. I told her to be patient. When I finally arrived in Puerto Plata she told me to meet her at the Malecon. I waited about 20 minutes when she finally arrived with her cousin. They wanted to go inside a restaurant Agua something or other to eat but I had other plans.

I told my girl to get into the car and we drove off. She called and told her cousin that we were going somewhere else. She was so worried that someone would see her with me. Like she is a superstar and all of Puerto Plata knows her. Much less would they know her husband because he is does not even live in this country. I stopped at a Bank Reservas and their ATM would only let me withdraw 4, 000 pesos. What the fuck is going on around this place? I guess I will be using a credit card for everything this trip.

We continued on and arrived at an aparthotel. Above various garages were signs for Presidential, Executive, and Regular. I pulled right into the garage of an Executive and closed it and we went in. I was impressed. There were no prices for anything – not even for how much the place cost. Soon there was a call on the phone asking if we wanted food or beverages but I declined since there were no prices on the menu. Then a buzzer sounded and I went to the revolving cubby hole. There was a bill for 625 pesos for the place. I'm not sure how much time this was for.

We showered together and she went down on me just like old times. What I like about her is that she is a 10 and loves to give head. When I tell her that I'm about to cum and asks if she wants my leche in her boca she puts me in a pit bull grip and sucks faster and wetter. We had a wonderful session. That was until the end when she started feeling guilty because she has never been with anyone else since she got married a couple of years ago.

She kept apologizing for her change in demeanor. I told her that I understood, but I knew in my mind that she would get used to it. I felt the same way my first time with a married woman when I was in the Navy. I called my dad from her house that next morning and told him that I didn't know the chick was married and he said, 'You are in the real world now son. ' I have since become desensitized to marital status. So we left the aparthotel and she had me drop her off on the side of the main street like a cheap hooker. She said she would take a taxi the rest of the way so I continued on to Sosua.

I pulled up in Sosua Bay Resort hoping they had a room for me. They had a garden view for $50 or a sea view for $60 with breakfast included. I asked about a discount and showed them the manager's card from last time. They said that they could not do anything for this first night and I would have to speak to her when she came in the next morning. I took the garden view. About 11pm I was hungry so I headed to the strip. It was not the same atmosphere as the many other times that I have been here. I sat on the planter in front of Clasico's watching everyone go in. I noticed many couples going in. Guys with their hookers, vacationers with their gringa other half, gringos with their Dominicana non-pros. One Dominican guy came and sat and chatted with me. I was turned off by all the girls in their hooker gear. Those clothes just turn me off. Why do they dress like that? I know. They want to show their wares in hopes that some guy will choose them. But damn. I have just had enough of it.

I saw a big girl with big ass hips and ass go in with two friends. Eventually they came out. I was staring at her and she came over to say something. We chatted for a while. She said that she was from the capital and had only been in Sosua 5 days. She told me about the police harassing / arresting women when they are walking or standing around without a male companion. That concept still goes over my head. I just can't imagine how they can come up to a woman and say you are a hooker, you are going to jail. She explained to me they know because they constantly see the same girls in those places. But still. To me if you don't see a girl trading sex for money then how the hell can you accuse them of prostitution? That is like me standing in front of a bank and the cops come lock me up for bank robbery.

She was tired of standing and wanted me to go sit in her car with her. She kept saying that she liked me and wanted to stay with me all night. I told her that I was too tired and would just go to sleep anyway. I asked what she would want from me the next morning if I let her stay with me. She said it would be up to me. I told her if it was up to me it would be zero. That did not seem to bother her. We stopped by her apartment because she did not want to be seen wearing hooker heels the next morning, but her friend who has the key was not there. So we came back to the hotel.

We took showers and got into the bed. I started watching movies on my computer but she started playing with my dick. The next thing I knew she was sucking it. And I must say that for a 22 year old this girl gives head like she invented it. And her pussy was some of the best I have had. I told her to give me 5 minutes and I would be ready for round 2. She said that I was full of shit and I would sleep until the next day. She was right because the only sleep I had had in the last 38 hours was on the 3 hour plane ride to Santo Domingo.

She woke me up at 6am saying that she had to go get the key from her friend before she left for Santo Domingo. She said that she would just leave her ID at the front desk because she would be right back. I woke up when she knocked on the door. We got back in the bed and fell back asleep until 9:20 am when I received a text from my girl in Santiago saying that she was in the bus and they were passing Puerto Plata. I woke old girl up and rushed her out saying that I was late for a diving trip. I put on my swim gear for good measure. For all the mongers who get bent out of shape when a guy gets a freebie in Sosua I gave her 1000 pesos for good measure. She thanked me and told me to call her later.

I went to partake in the breakfast buffet until my #1 called saying she was waiting at the grocery store for me. I walked up to meet her and we came back and sat at the pool and talked. She said she feels weird going to a hotel in Sosua because girls from all around the country come here to pick up foreigners. And she didn't want people thinking she was one of those girls. I asked her what she could do about how and what other people think. She said nothing and I said exactly.

Eventually she said we had done enough talking and she wanted to go to the room and make love. That was fine by me. Out of all of my girls, pro or non-pro, she has the best all around performance. She has the sex drive of a rabbit in heat. I was fucking her in the ass while she was fucking her pussy with a vibrator. That was the highlight of our session. We went to sleep and she woke me up at 2pm when it was time for her to go. She joked with me and said she would see me in another year since that is how long it has been since we last saw each other.

At 4pm a girl who I haven't seen in 4 years came and picked me up. We hung out for an hour but she had to go back to her office in Puerto Plata and go make dinner for her kids. She said she would let me know later if she would come back, depending on if the sitter could stay with her kids. She just called and told me that the lady could not watch the kids because she has to go to church. So now I will go check out the strip, CMP, and the other new place.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1142008]She woke me up at 6am saying that she had to go get the key from her friend before she left for Santo Domingo. She said that she would just leave her I'd at the front desk because she would be right back. I woke up when she knocked on the door. We got back in the bed and fell back asleep until 9:20 am when I received a text from my girl in Santiago saying that she was in the bus and they were passing Puerto Plata. I woke old girl up and rushed her out saying that I was late for a diving trip. I put on my swim gear for good measure. For all the mongers who get bent out of shape when a guy gets a freebie in Sosua I gave her 1000 pesos for good measure. She thanked me and told me to call her later.

I went to partake in the breakfast buffet until my #1 called saying she was waiting at the grocery store for me. I walked up to meet her and we came back and sat at the pool and talked. She said she feels weird going to a hotel in Sosua because girls from all around the country come here to pick up foreigners. And she didn't want people thinking she was one of those girls. I asked her what she could do about how and what other people think. She said nothing and I said exactly.

Eventually she said we had done enough talking and she wanted to go to the room and make love. That was fine by me. Out of all of my girls, pro or non-pro, she has the best all around performance. She has the sex drive of a rabbit in heat. I was fucking her in the ass while she was fucking her pussy with a vibrator. That was the highlight of our session. We went to sleep and she woke me up at 2pm when it was time for her to go. She joked with me and said she would see me in another year since that is how long it has been since we last saw each other.

At 4pm a girl who I haven't seen in 4 years came and picked me up. We hung out for an hour but she had to go back to her office in Puerto Plata and go make dinner for her kids. She said she would let me know later if she would come back, depending on if the sitter could stay with her kids. She just called and told me that the lady could not watch the kids because she has to go to church. So now I will go check out the strip, CMP, and the other new place. [/QUOTE]Always love to read your posts.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1142008]She woke me up at 6am saying that she had to go get the key from her friend before she left for Santo Domingo. She said that she would just leave her I'd at the front desk because she would be right back. I woke up when she knocked on the door. We got back in the bed and fell back asleep until 9:20 am when I received a text from my girl in Santiago saying that she was in the bus and they were passing Puerto Plata. I woke old girl up and rushed her out saying that I was late for a diving trip. I put on my swim gear for good measure. For all the mongers who get bent out of shape when a guy gets a freebie in Sosua I gave her 1000 pesos for good measure. She thanked me and told me to call her later.

I went to partake in the breakfast buffet until my #1 called saying she was waiting at the grocery store for me. I walked up to meet her and we came back and sat at the pool and talked. She said she feels weird going to a hotel in Sosua because girls from all around the country come here to pick up foreigners. And she didn't want people thinking she was one of those girls. I asked her what she could do about how and what other people think. She said nothing and I said exactly.

Eventually she said we had done enough talking and she wanted to go to the room and make love. That was fine by me. Out of all of my girls, pro or non-pro, she has the best all around performance. She has the sex drive of a rabbit in heat. I was fucking her in the ass while she was fucking her pussy with a vibrator. That was the highlight of our session. We went to sleep and she woke me up at 2pm when it was time for her to go. She joked with me and said she would see me in another year since that is how long it has been since we last saw each other.

At 4pm a girl who I haven't seen in 4 years came and picked me up. We hung out for an hour but she had to go back to her office in Puerto Plata and go make dinner for her kids. She said she would let me know later if she would come back, depending on if the sitter could stay with her kids. She just called and told me that the lady could not watch the kids because she has to go to church. So now I will go check out the strip, CMP, and the other new place.[/QUOTE]Nice reports, thanks.

First I went to PJs for a drink. The reason being is because the night before when I stopped there to buy a couple bottles of water there was a bartender that I liked. So I told her that I would be back the next day. After a little prodding she agreed to go to the beach with me the next afternoon. I finished my drink and headed down PC to CMP. And who the hell did I see sitting outside at the door? Fucking Daisy. I couldn't do anything but laugh and ask her what the hell she was doing there. She said that she was the manager of the girls and didn't work in the street anymore.

She called one of the girls over to show me around. There was one monger sitting at the bar with a girl. Other than that there were about 15 other ones sitting around because there were no customers. Only the one I was with and one other was doable. The girl led me out back and to the pool. She kept feeling me up all the while. The waitress followed us around with her order pad. I picked up my guide and pretended to throw her into the pool. I asked her to show me the rest of the place. She said that was it besides the rooms upstairs. So I went back to the front to talk with Daisy some more. The prices are as follow: 500 pesos to get into the pool with a girl and talk. 800 pesos for a girl to dance for you. 1500 pesos for 1 hour of fucking. TLN (I can't remember the time frame) was 5000 pesos and 24 hours was 6500 pesos. On top of this you would have to pay the house 1000 for the girl to leave.

I continued down the street to Banana Pepe. The people at the door and the waitress touted it as a strip club but I couldn't coax anyone to get naked. The waitress, who appeared Haitian but did not understand my French, took it upon herself to mediate between me and one of the working girls. I don't know why; I was already speaking Spanish from the moment I walked in. The verdict was US$100 or 3000 pesos for TLN. That is like a 700 peso discount for paying in pesos instead of dollars. In her dreams. So I asked how much for just one hour. She told the waitress 1500. The waitress started to repeat the 1500 but in a split second jacked it up to 1800. That in itself got me riled up. Then the only doable girl, who was actually an 8, came over and joined in. I told them the most I was paying was 1000 and that would be for all night. I got into a debate with the 8 about the club asking European prices when we are in the Dominican Republic. She finally agreed that I could find TLN outside of the club for 1000 pesos. Then I left out. I don't understand how these places are staying in business. They have no customers and a bunch of out of shape fugglies sitting around who are expecting top pay.

Across from BanReservas there was a street chica talking to one of her security guard friends. When I walked pass she quickly latched on. She said that she wanted to go with me. I asked her how much and she said $40 for one pop. I laughed in my mind and asked her how much in pesos and she said 2000. That is the first time anywhere I have seen services in the local currency being priced higher than it is in USD. I told her that she must have been smoking crack and left.

Great report I will be there Sunday any advice? I love CMP more then la passion but I will finally take a stab at a la passion chica. Any lite skin chicas in classico at night?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1142199]First I went to PJs for a drink. The reason being is because the night before when I stopped there to buy a couple bottles of water there was a bartender that I liked. So I told her that I would be back the next day. After a little prodding she agreed to go to the beach with me the next afternoon. I finished my drink and headed down PC to CMP. And who the hell did I see sitting outside at the door? Fucking Daisy. I couldn't do anything but laugh and ask her what the hell she was doing there. She said that she was the manager of the girls and didn't work in the street anymore.

She called one of the girls over to show me around. There was one monger sitting at the bar with a girl. Other than that there were about 15 other ones sitting around because there were no customers. Only the one I was with and one other was doable. The girl led me out back and to the pool. She kept feeling me up all the while. The waitress followed us around with her order pad. I picked up my guide and pretended to throw her into the pool. I asked her to show me the rest of the place. She said that was it besides the rooms upstairs. So I went back to the front to talk with Daisy some more. The prices are as follow: 500 pesos to get into the pool with a girl and talk. 800 pesos for a girl to dance for you. 1500 pesos for 1 hour of fucking. TLN (I can't remember the time frame) was 5000 pesos and 24 hours was 6500 pesos. On top of this you would have to pay the house 1000 for the girl to leave.

I continued down the street to Banana Pepe. The people at the door and the waitress touted it as a strip club but I couldn't coax anyone to get naked. The waitress, who appeared Haitian but did not understand my French, took it upon herself to mediate between me and one of the working girls. I don't know why; I was already speaking Spanish from the moment I walked in. The verdict was US$100 or 3000 pesos for TLN. That is like a 700 peso discount for paying in pesos instead of dollars. In her dreams. So I asked how much for just one hour. She told the waitress 1500. The waitress started to repeat the 1500 but in a split second jacked it up to 1800. That in itself got me riled up. Then the only doable girl, who was actually an 8, came over and joined in. I told them the most I was paying was 1000 and that would be for all night. I got into a debate with the 8 about the club asking European prices when we are in the Dominican Republic. She finally agreed that I could find TLN outside of the club for 1000 pesos. Then I left out. I don't understand how these places are staying in business. They have no customers and a bunch of out of shape fugglies sitting around who are expecting top pay.

Across from BanReservas there was a street chica talking to one of her security guard friends. When I walked pass she quickly latched on. She said that she wanted to go with me. I asked her how much and she said $40 for one pop. I laughed in my mind and asked her how much in pesos and she said 2000. That is the first time anywhere I have seen services in the local currency being priced higher than it is in USD. I told her that she must have been smoking crack and left. [/QUOTE]It's a damn shame what they did to the place (Sosua). Literally turned that mofo upside down.

Thanks for the report!

I've been here a couple of times over last 3yrs and I'm lost

Not like I remember it. Staying at Europa should have done my research first

Good info though.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1142199]First I went to PJs for a drink. The reason being is because the night before when I stopped there to buy a couple bottles of water there was a bartender that I liked. So I told her that I would be back the next day. After a little prodding she agreed to go to the beach with me the next afternoon. I finished my drink and headed down PC to CMP. And who the hell did I see sitting outside at the door? Fucking Daisy. I couldn't do anything but laugh and ask her what the hell she was doing there. She said that she was the manager of the girls and didn't work in the street anymore.

She called one of the girls over to show me around. There was one monger sitting at the bar with a girl. Other than that there were about 15 other ones sitting around because there were no customers. Only the one I was with and one other was doable. The girl led me out back and to the pool. She kept feeling me up all the while. The waitress followed us around with her order pad. I picked up my guide and pretended to throw her into the pool. I asked her to show me the rest of the place. She said that was it besides the rooms upstairs. So I went back to the front to talk with Daisy some more. The prices are as follow: 500 pesos to get into the pool with a girl and talk. 800 pesos for a girl to dance for you. 1500 pesos for 1 hour of fucking. TLN (I can't remember the time frame) was 5000 pesos and 24 hours was 6500 pesos. On top of this you would have to pay the house 1000 for the girl to leave.

I continued down the street to Banana Pepe. The people at the door and the waitress touted it as a strip club but I couldn't coax anyone to get naked. The waitress, who appeared Haitian but did not understand my French, took it upon herself to mediate between me and one of the working girls. I don't know why; I was already speaking Spanish from the moment I walked in. The verdict was US$100 or 3000 pesos for TLN. That is like a 700 peso discount for paying in pesos instead of dollars. In her dreams. So I asked how much for just one hour. She told the waitress 1500. The waitress started to repeat the 1500 but in a split second jacked it up to 1800. That in itself got me riled up. Then the only doable girl, who was actually an 8, came over and joined in. I told them the most I was paying was 1000 and that would be for all night. I got into a debate with the 8 about the club asking European prices when we are in the Dominican Republic. She finally agreed that I could find TLN outside of the club for 1000 pesos. Then I left out. I don't understand how these places are staying in business. They have no customers and a bunch of out of shape fugglies sitting around who are expecting top pay.

Across from BanReservas there was a street chica talking to one of her security guard friends. When I walked pass she quickly latched on. She said that she wanted to go with me. I asked her how much and she said $40 for one pop. I laughed in my mind and asked her how much in pesos and she said 2000. That is the first time anywhere I have seen services in the local currency being priced higher than it is in USD. I told her that she must have been smoking crack and left. [/QUOTE]

At 1am I went to Latinos to see how the scene was. They don't even have a door anymore since the outside bar is closed in. They have ghettoized the inside with graffiti all over the walls and a natural plywood dance floor. The place was virtually empty but started to come alive at 1:30. I was standing near the entrance next to a chick that had a sexy ass body. She claimed to be a dancer. What type I don't know but the way she was shaking her ass and how her body was built up I would not doubt it. I thought she was with some other guy but she kept grabbing my ass. Total TIGRESS. Thinking about the monger who reported that he was pick-pocketed in Clasico's I made sure my assets were protected the entire time. I told her that she was a beautiful woman and asked why she had to fuck herself up with all of those tattoos, hair weave, and contact lenses. She even has a tattoo on the inside of her bottom lip and the names of her family tattooed on her wrist in Japanese script. She said that the tattoos tell the story of her life. Damn, seems like she could have just used a pen and paper like everybody else.

Then the aunt portion of my aunt-niece combo walked up. I asked her if she remembered me. She lied and said yes from Clasico's. I said nope. She appeared to be high, or maybe just retarded or extra tired. She was pretty much out of it. She asked if I wanted her to go with me. Actually I had just gotten off the phone with her niece an hour ago and was supposed to call her back to come over. The aunt told me that she would go for 2000 pesos. I said bullshit. Last time I only gave you 1000. She had no idea. She left and came back and said 1500. I said no, but she kept sticking around. She finally left again and the girl with the sexy body asked if she was my mother. LOL. So I told her that the transvestite guy in the corner was her brother.

She pulled me to the back in the dark where the couches are and gave me a lap dance. She kept giving me a line like, 'I don't know what you are doing to me' or some bullshit like that. And I'm steady trying to figure her out. She hasn't asked for a drink, we're kissing, she's grabbing all on me, I'm grabbing all on her. My dick was hard enough to cut diamonds.

I don't remember how it happened but we ended up back at my place. She kept telling me that we were not going to have sex. Then she takes off all her clothes and makes me finger her. I will be damned if she didn't have a snapping pussy with a gorilla grip. I have never seen anything like that. She must have been doing kegels her whole life. I couldn't quite see where this thing was going but I continued to have my guard up in true monger fashion.

We fucked for about an hour. She must be into some real S&M shit because she kept demanding that I fuck her harder. So I fucked her harder, slapped her ass, slapped her face, choked her, all kind of shit. Then it was break time. She went to the bathroom and started washing her pussy over the toilet. Why are these Dominican chicks afraid to take showers? All over Asia and South America chicks run to take showers before and after, but I'm not seeing it with them. She started putting her clothes on in front of the mirror. Still no money had been discussed, so I'm thinking I'm on my way to Freebieville in a convertible Cadillac. She kept talking about how I had some kind of effect on her. She acted pissed because I didn't cum for her and she had already cum twice. She started some fake crying shit in front of the mirror. I was thinking that she really has emotional issues. She did the same fake crying when we were in the back of the club.

I pulled her back to the bedroom and threw her back on the bed. She had on over-sized shorts with elastic in the bottom that she wears pulled up to where her thigh meets her crotch. I grabbed a rubber, pulled the shorts to the side and started fucking her again. Finally I came and asked if she was happy now. She went back to the bathroom and this time didn't take a ho bath. She only fixed her hair. She came back to the bedroom and said, 'Okay pay me. You pay those other girls, so pay me. ' I said what other girls. Then I went to the closet and pulled out a lone 1000 peso bill from the pocket in my suitcase where I had it tucked before I went out. I threw it on the bed. She looked confused.

That is when the drama started. She said I'm not a fucking Haitian. You have to give me more. I said I'm not a fucking Haitian either and I'm not rich. You can take it or leave it. She started going on about a baby and family. I have no idea. That shit was going in one ear and coming out the other. As hard as I am on a non-pro chica, I am definitely not going to lighten up with a pro. If anything I am going to tighten up and show them who the fucking boss is. And a tigress at that. Please. I'm a seasoned monger as well as a top player with non-pros. There is no way this ghetto rat could ever talk me off my game.

I told her that we never talked about money before. And if the pussy wasn't so good and your body was not so tight I would be asking for change, because for that 1000 you should be here all night. The worst thing most mongers could do is not secure a price beforehand. But with me the worst a pro can do is not secure a price beforehand. She asked for 2000. I said no. Then we started to stare each other down. I wasn't budging and we were on my turf. She acted like she was going to leave without the money. Then she sat back down and said okay 1500. I said no. She went on about the Haitian stuff and told me that she was not a low life and I had to give her more money. She threatened to not go with me anymore when I saw her in the disco. Whooooa. That really hurt. She realized her pleading was falling on deaf ears. She finally picked up the 1000 pesos and walked out the door. I took a shower and went to sleep.

I hear ya Brotha tighten up don't lighten up.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1142337]At 1am I went to Latinos to see how the scene was. They don't even have a door anymore since the outside bar is closed in. They have ghettoized the inside with graffiti all over the walls and a natural plywood dance floor. The place was virtually empty but started to come alive at 1:30. I was standing near the entrance next to a chick that had a sexy ass body. She claimed to be a dancer. What type I don't know but the way she was shaking her ass and how her body was built up I would not doubt it. I thought she was with some other guy but she kept grabbing my ass. Total TIGRESS. Thinking about the monger who reported that he was pick-pocketed in Clasico's I made sure my assets were protected the entire time. I told her that she was a beautiful woman and asked why she had to fuck herself up with all of those tattoos, hair weave, and contact lenses. She even has a tattoo on the inside of her bottom lip and the names of her family tattooed on her wrist in Japanese script. She said that the tattoos tell the story of her life. Damn, seems like she could have just used a pen and paper like everybody else.

Then the aunt portion of my aunt-niece combo walked up. I asked her if she remembered me. She lied and said yes from Clasico's. I said nope. She appeared to be high, or maybe just retarded or extra tired. She was pretty much out of it. She asked if I wanted her to go with me. Actually I had just gotten off the phone with her niece an hour ago and was supposed to call her back to come over. The aunt told me that she would go for 2000 pesos. I said bullshit. Last time I only gave you 1000. She had no idea. She left and came back and said 1500. I said no, but she kept sticking around. She finally left again and the girl with the sexy body asked if she was my mother. LOL. So I told her that the transvestite guy in the corner was her brother.

She pulled me to the back in the dark where the couches are and gave me a lap dance. She kept giving me a line like, 'I don't know what you are doing to me' or some bullshit like that. And I'm steady trying to figure her out. She hasn't asked for a drink, we're kissing, she's grabbing all on me, I'm grabbing all on her. My dick was hard enough to cut diamonds.

I don't remember how it happened but we ended up back at my place. She kept telling me that we were not going to have sex. Then she takes off all her clothes and makes me finger her. I will be damned if she didn't have a snapping pussy with a gorilla grip. I have never seen anything like that. She must have been doing kegels her whole life. I couldn't quite see where this thing was going but I continued to have my guard up in true monger fashion.

We fucked for about an hour. She must be into some real S&M shit because she kept demanding that I fuck her harder. So I fucked her harder, slapped her ass, slapped her face, choked her, all kind of shit. Then it was break time. She went to the bathroom and started washing her pussy over the toilet. Why are these Dominican chicks afraid to take showers? All over Asia and South America chicks run to take showers before and after, but I'm not seeing it with them. She started putting her clothes on in front of the mirror. Still no money had been discussed, so I'm thinking I'm on my way to Freebieville in a convertible Cadillac. She kept talking about how I had some kind of effect on her. She acted pissed because I didn't cum for her and she had already cum twice. She started some fake crying shit in front of the mirror. I was thinking that she really has emotional issues. She did the same fake crying when we were in the back of the club.

I pulled her back to the bedroom and threw her back on the bed. She had on over-sized shorts with elastic in the bottom that she wears pulled up to where her thigh meets her crotch. I grabbed a rubber, pulled the shorts to the side and started fucking her again. Finally I came and asked if she was happy now. She went back to the bathroom and this time didn't take a ho bath. She only fixed her hair. She came back to the bedroom and said, 'Okay pay me. You pay those other girls, so pay me. ' I said what other girls. Then I went to the closet and pulled out a lone 1000 peso bill from the pocket in my suitcase where I had it tucked before I went out. I threw it on the bed. She looked confused.

That is when the drama started. She said I'm not a fucking Haitian. You have to give me more. I said I'm not a fucking Haitian either and I'm not rich. You can take it or leave it. She started going on about a baby and family. I have no idea. That shit was going in one ear and coming out the other. As hard as I am on a non-pro chica, I am definitely not going to lighten up with a pro. If anything I am going to tighten up and show them who the fucking boss is. And a tigress at that. Please. I'm a seasoned monger as well as a top player with non-pros. There is no way this ghetto rat could ever talk me off my game.

I told her that we never talked about money before. And if the pussy wasn't so good and your body was not so tight I would be asking for change, because for that 1000 you should be here all night. The worst thing most mongers could do is not secure a price beforehand. But with me the worst a pro can do is not secure a price beforehand. She asked for 2000. I said no. Then we started to stare each other down. I wasn't budging and we were on my turf. She acted like she was going to leave without the money. Then she sat back down and said okay 1500. I said no. She went on about the Haitian stuff and told me that she was not a low life and I had to give her more money. She threatened to not go with me anymore when I saw her in the disco. Whooooa. That really hurt. She realized her pleading was falling on deaf ears. She finally picked up the 1000 pesos and walked out the door. I took a shower and went to sleep. [/QUOTE]

Just got back myself from a week in Sosua. Stayed at Hotel Sosua Bay. In my opinion, the best place to stay. I own a time share and anyone looking for great deal PM me. I have nothing to say negative. All in all one of the best trips I have had. Sea Breeze is defitnately a dump. Never stayed anywhere else ecept Sosua Bay. Now that they the adult entrance on the beach side it works very well. Latinos had it's own crowd and not bad in my opinion. Pulled some sweet honeys over the weekend and Classicos is still the hot spot. Seems Friday night is the best. Guys come in and pull the fine chicas and lock them' down for the weekend. Saturdays are slower than Friday due to that fact. Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday are all chicas. 3 to 1 seems to me. Get phone numbers for the day action and move on. I like the city now as in the past when it was wide open. I think putting in the controls has saved our spot. Tourists are what the town needs to survive and there were quite few tourists on the street unlike when the girls were running around rampent (which I liked). And whether we like it or not the town has to survive or we all will be at a loss. I will follow up with another report on my chica action later as I am bone (no pun intended) tired.

The Nightwhaler

Private first class reporting for duty

Went out last night hung around Classico didn't go in I just find it hard to pay for something that was free

And I'm sure they didn't add anything to make it worth more than free

Wednesday night kinda slow and from what I reading and seeing just not as many chicas as days gone by

Oh well picked one up on the way home she 2000Pesos me counter 1500 and mind you it's 3 am now and classico is close so I doing the broad a favor and prices should be at bare minimum

Long story short she tried the quick head game and I want to fuck you crap

All said and done her 2 nuts me 1 and I negotiated all night or till morning

Now she's hungry and wants to leave with her 1500

I think not I'm just too principled to my word and words given to me.

You will leave with 1000 pesos or nothing

Well let's see how the weekend goes. Guess I need to learn some more Spanish and let a chica know

I want to fuck alot, have a nice time and not rush

Win some loose some good luck out there

And the Quote of the month goes to my man Mr. E.

"I told her that we never talked about money before. And if the pussy wasn't so good and your body was not so tight I would be asking for change, because for that 1000 you should be here all night."- Mr. Enternational.

F$CKing Classic! Nuff Said!

[QUOTE=Nightwhaler; 1142403]Just got back myself from a week in Sosua. Stayed at Hotel Sosua Bay. In my opinion, the best place to stay. I own a time share and anyone looking for great deal PM me. I have nothing to say negative. All in all one of the best trips I have had. Sea Breeze is defitnately a dump. Never stayed anywhere else ecept Sosua Bay. Now that they the adult entrance on the beach side it works very well. Latinos had it's own crowd and not bad in my opinion. Pulled some sweet honeys over the weekend and Classicos is still the hot spot. Seems Friday night is the best. Guys come in and pull the fine chicas and lock them' down for the weekend. Saturdays are slower than Friday due to that fact. Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday are all chicas. 3 to 1 seems to me. Get phone numbers for the day action and move on. I like the city now as in the past when it was wide open. I think putting in the controls has saved our spot. Tourists are what the town needs to survive and there were quite few tourists on the street unlike when the girls were running around rampent (which I liked). And whether we like it or not the town has to survive or we all will be at a loss. I will follow up with another report on my chica action later as I am bone (no pun intended) tired.

The Nightwhaler[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. But "saving out town" is something thats debatable. As the tourist and families increase, the single (mongerer) travel will be less welcome. Sosua has been reduced to late night adventures basically. There is nothing to do during the day (unless you scuba like Mr E). I miss the past hanging out in Sosua with pussy running around everywhere all day.

One thing I noticed, and I agree with your perspective, was that alot of boys are now flying in for the weekend to snatch their weekend girl from Classicos. I also noticed the contrast of Classicos on different days. Monday thru Thursday the DJ played top 40 mixed with lite Salsa, which was different. The crowd was mostly European and there were some girls who don't work weekends. Now Friday and Saturday the DJ played Rap and Ragaeton, with its heavy beats and hard edge. The crowd was mostly young hip hoppers and weekend warriors. Most of the Europeans were downstairs at Merengue, not visiting Classicos on Friday and Saturday. What does this tell me?

It tells me that through the music they can adjust the whole Classico crowd. I often thought that when Classicos goes thats the last frontier of the "old Sosua". But if Classicos goes top 40, or maybe even rock and roll seven days a week it will run away all the hip hoppers and weekend warriors, thus completing the transformation to the "New Sosua'. I can hear some people saying "good get rid of THOSE mf" but then you will experience Classicos just becoming a NICE discoteque. Whats wrong with this you ask?

With Classicos as just a "nice Place" you will have more tourist women and couples, who don't want to party with hot Dominican hookers nearby not to mention horny mongerers. First they run the mongerers out, then they harass the working girls, then the promote the place for tourists, then they start charging more for everything and and change the vibe (music) , to run off the remaining weekend hiphoppers and mongerer hangerons.

Now we see prices (plane tickets) to POP hovering above 600usd with a night layover. Last year I could fly straight to POP for 341usd. The 600usd fares are all booked with families that get a package deal with the AI for the "new Sosua". The beach is now packed with tourists (even though most Europeans don't spend alot with Dominican vendors). They (europeans, tourists) have conquered the town whats next? The beach. When you see the Dominicans losing buisinesses along their beloved beach then you might see a Dominican backlash. But there might not be anything they can do because the foreign money will now dictate what happens in the "New Sosua"

There is a silver lining here for all mongerers but I will switch that info to "The Gogo forum" so not to hog this board.

[QUOTE=Blkmayle; 1142476]Private first class reporting for duty

Went out last night hung around Classico didn't go in I just find it hard to pay for something that was free[/QUOTE]Classico's used to be free? As far back as 2008 right up to before the 2010 crack down it was always 100 pesos. You would get a ticket that could be used for a free Presidente, Cuba Libre, or Santo Libre. I don't drink beer, but those Santo's are the bomb-diggidy!

[QUOTE=Nightwhaler;1142403]Pulled some sweet honeys over the weekend and Classicos is still the hot spot. Seems Friday night is the best. [b]Guys come in and pull the fine chicas and lock them' down for the weekend. [red]Saturdays are slower than Friday due to that fact[/red][/b]...I like the city now as in the past when it was wide open. I think putting in the controls has saved our spot. Tourists are what the town needs to survive and there were quite few tourists on the street unlike when the girls were running around rampent (which I liked). And whether we like it or not the town has to survive or we all will be at a loss.[/QUOTE]Nah, nice try though. If tourist are what it takes for the town to survive, then Costa Rica part II: "Caribbean Style" is on the horizon. It seemed to be rolling along just fine only on a mongering presence for many years. But they can have Sosua if that's all it now has to offer. Hell, even Blackbeard's in POP is looking like the better option.

Boca seems to possibly be coming back online again. Just hope no one wants that place anytime soon.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1142623]Nah, nice try though. If tourist are what it takes for the town to survive, then Costa Rica part II: "Caribbean Style" is on the horizon. It seemed to be rolling along just fine only on a mongering presence for many years. But they can have Sosua if that's all it now has to offer. Hell, even Blackbeard's in POP is looking like the better option.

Boca seems to possibly be coming back online again. Just hope no one wants that place anytime soon.[/QUOTE]My posts are delayed, so my post below was not posted yet. But boy you fully understand the dynamics. Maybe the old Sosua needed a "slight" toning down but they changed the whole dynamics and clientelle. In 05 Sosua was more like it is now (according to BQ) and it busted out over the next 5 years. The "old Sosua" was wild and fun but so was Brazil and other places. Now is the time to understand the"wildness" is over, and tone down our game. We need a beach to relax on (not swim) , we need an affordable airport nearby, we need alcohol, clubs and restaurants and mostly we need pussy. Boca fits all this compared to the "new Sosua". Sure it is dirty, ghettoish, and has many street hustlers but verses driving three hours or spending 600usd for a flight to the "new Sosua" ill take Boca. Not to mention all the lonely girls in SD and nearby. Brush up on your Spanish and adjust your mongering game.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1142623]Nah, nice try though. If tourist are what it takes for the town to survive, then Costa Rica part II: "Caribbean Style" is on the horizon. It seemed to be rolling along just fine only on a mongering presence for many years. But they can have Sosua if that's all it now has to offer. Hell, even Blackbeard's in POP is looking like the better option.

Boca seems to possibly be coming back online again. Just hope no one wants that place anytime soon. [/QUOTE]Actually Sosua is not dead. Don't write it off yet. I still had a good time and like has been said before a newbie would not know the difference and would have a blast. There are still plenty of chicas and you are probably only going to fuck one at a time. The only problem I have is that they are demanding much more money than before. Someone has been spoiling them. Also the quality has gone down a notch, but it's good that I'm not as picky as a lot of guys.

I had planned to bite the bullet and pay the 200 pesos to go into Clasico's last night just to say I did it but things didn't work out that way. I had been putting the niece off for a while. She called and asked where I was and even though I was in the room I turned my music up and told her that I was in the calle and would call her later. When I walked past Clasico's (on the other side of the street) on my way to get a bite to eat she called my phone and asked where I was. I told her that I was getting food. She said that she was outside of Clasico's. I told her that I would call her later.

After I finished eating I walked over to Latino's. The tigress from the night before came up behind me and tapped me on my shoulder. She wanted me to follow her to the outside VIP section. That MF was looking so good. I am telling you. She started calling me Mafioso because I don't go for her bullshit and run things the way I want to. She wanted to go with me again and it was definitely tempting. It took all I had to hold back from this girl. She had on a body suit with the ass, hips, and back cut out. She asked me to buy her a beer, and although I don't usually do such things I gave in because she was such a good sport on this day after. She kept getting upset with me because I was looking at all the girls. But that was what I went to Sosua for. She squeezed my finger inside of her fist imitating how her pussy was doing my dick the night before. She didn't need to remind me of that! A guy from a group at the bar came over to talk to her and she went back over to the bar with him. She kept coming back to me intermittently.

I was freed up to find something else. I was shooting for a gazelle. So whenever I saw a girl that I liked I would go up and ask them, 'Are you a gazelle? ' They didn't know what the hell I was talking about. I was watching one girl who was looking so good. She was a younger chick and I don't usually go for those. But the way she was throwing that thing on the dance floor and as cute as she was. Damn. She did some freaky dancing on me for several songs and I finally told her, 'Vamos. '

When we got to the hotel the desk guy was not there so I took her ID (scariest pic I have ever seen on a ID) and signed her in myself. After all I have seen it done enough times. She was only 19. We got to the room and she started sucking my dick. My mind is almost made up that these Dominicanas give the best head and have the best pussy in the world. Or is my luck that good that I keep hitting the jackpot? There is no way a 19 year old is supposed to be sucking dick with those kind of skills.

I told her to take off her clothes. She 'warned' me that she had milk. I said, 'You say that like it's a bad thing. ' Let the breast feeding begin. I was like a kid in a candy store. She was squirting it everywhere, but wouldn't let me take a picture of it. We were naked and making out and she said something that I can't remember. I responded with the question, 'Cuanto? ' She took it as how much money she wanted from me, but actually I was referring to something in our conversation. She said 3000. I said what? She said you need to give me 3000 pesos. I said wrong. I will give you 1500 until 6am. It was already after 2 and I was leaving at 6. She would not budge so I told her to leave. She still expected me to give her 3000 pesos even though she was leaving. I told her that I was not giving her anything when we did not fuck.

I got up and put on my clothes. She told me not to go back to the disco the next day or else. I told her that I would be there at 11pm the next night if she wanted to see me. I said as a matter of fact I'm about to go back up there now. She kept brushing her weave and it was falling all over my floor. I don't know if she was nervous or what, but there is not that much brushing in the world. She finally headed for the door. She asked for motoconcho money. I asked how much and she said 200. I laughed and said get the fuck out of here. She changed it to 50. I reached in my pocket and got 50 pesos in coins out. Then I told her to give me a kiss first. She gave me a kiss but I didn't want to release the money to her hand. There was a bit of a struggle then she bit me on the back of the hand. I let go and we had a good laugh together. She left smiling. I called the niece but she had just arrived home and said there were no motos outside by her house. I had to go to sleep horny, but at least I got a sample of her jawbone and a serving of breaaaaast milk before bed.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1142687]I told her to take off her clothes. She 'warned' me that she had milk. I said, 'You say that like it's a bad thing. ' Let the breast feeding begin. I was like a kid in a candy store. She was squirting it everywhere, but wouldn't let me take a picture of it. We were naked and making out and she said something that I can't remember. I responded with the question, 'Cuanto? ' She took it as how much money she wanted from me, but actually I was referring to something in our conversation. She said 3000. I said what? She said you need to give me 3000 pesos. I said wrong. I will give you 1500 until 6am. It was already after 2 and I was leaving at 6. She would not budge so I told her to leave. She still expected me to give her 3000 pesos even though she was leaving. I told her that I was not giving her anything when we did not fuck.

I got up and put on my clothes. She told me not to go back to the disco the next day or else. I told her that I would be there at 11pm the next night if she wanted to see me. I said as a matter of fact I'm about to go back up there now. She kept brushing her weave and it was falling all over my floor. I don't know if she was nervous or what, but there is not that much brushing in the world. She finally headed for the door. She asked for motoconcho money. I asked how much and she said 200. I laughed and said get the fuck out of here. She changed it to 50. I reached in my pocket and got 50 pesos in coins out. Then I told her to give me a kiss first. She gave me a kiss but I didn't want to release the money to her hand. There was a bit of a struggle then she bit me on the back of the hand. I let go and we had a good laugh together. She left smiling. I called the niece but she had just arrived home and said there were no motos outside by her house. I had to go to sleep horny, but at least I got a sample of her jawbone and a serving of breaaaaast milk before bed. [/QUOTE]I'm sitting here imagining this and laughing my ass off bro, Tit milk squirting all over the place lol. Yes Dominicanas suck some real good dick and fuck really good! I think the best sex I ever had was 2 years ago with Dominicana. I remember it like it was yesterday.

So refreshing you sticking to your guns and telling her what YOUR paying and not the other way around. I love the take it leave it attitude, I know some other mofos on here would have given in to her. I can't tell you the amount of hoes I've thrown out of my room for not coming to an agreement, that's why I now have to negotiate prior. I've been threatened as well but I just know so many people there I really wasn't phased. The extension hair all over the place brings me some fond memories LOL. Probably the weekend warriors and newbies are the ones spoiling the girls. We're counting on guys like you to set then straight.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1142337]... That is when the drama started. She said I'm not a fucking Haitian. You have to give me more. I said I'm not a fucking Haitian either and I'm not rich. You can take it or leave it. She started going on about a baby and family. I have no idea. That shit was going in one ear and coming out the other. As hard as I am on a non-pro chica, I am definitely not going to lighten up with a pro. If anything I am going to tighten up and show them who the fucking boss is. And a tigress at that. Please. I'm a seasoned monger as well as a top player with non-pros. There is no way this ghetto rat could ever talk me off my game.[/QUOTE]Excellent posts, thanks.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1142623]Nah, nice try though. If tourist are what it takes for the town to survive, then Costa Rica part II: "Caribbean Style" is on the horizon. It seemed to be rolling along just fine only on a mongering presence for many years. But they can have Sosua if that's all it now has to offer. Hell, even Blackbeard's in POP is looking like the better option.

Boca seems to possibly be coming back online again. Just hope no one wants that place anytime soon. [/QUOTE]On Tripadvior the #1 hotel in Dominican Republic (422 hotels) is a hotel in Sosua; Casa Veintiuno, [url]http://www.casaveintiuno.com/[/url]

Price per night is about 130 euros, it is not directly on the beach, it is between El Batey and Charamicos, south of the beach and south of the main road.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1142623]If tourist are what it takes for the town to survive, then Costa Rica part II: "Caribbean Style" is on the horizon.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1142732]On Tripadvior the #1 hotel in Dominican Republic (422 hotels) is a hotel in Sosua; Casa Veintiuno,

[url]http://www.casaveintiuno.com/[/url]

Price per night is about 130 euros, it is not directly on the beach, it is between El Batey and Charamicos, south of the beach and south of the main road. [/QUOTE]Exactly my point (insert "smile" here).

Next the Europa will be advertised (on Trip Advisor) as the Hilton!

And I am going to take a wild guess that "House 21" is not native (read "Chica") friendly. But what monger would want to stay at a place for $186 per night? ANS: no monger would, which is why Terra Linda has never gone down on their rooms after the promotion of $55 per night when they opened.

They (New Sosua) don't want our (mongering) business and I don't buy their new format: a ruse to make everyone happy (a "one size fits all" Sosua). Sorry, but I am usually sleep by midnight, lol. Flying all the way over to stay up until 1am just to get sum action doesn't sound like fun at all...more like work, lol.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1142644]My posts are delayed, so my post below was not posted yet. But boy you fully understand the dynamics. Maybe the old Sosua needed a "slight" toning down but they changed the whole dynamics and clientele.[/QUOTE]

This should read "[b]but DAMN![/b] They changed the whole dynamics and clientele[b]![/b]"

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1142713]So refreshing you sticking to your guns and telling her what YOUR paying and not the other way around. I love the take it leave it attitude, I know some other mofos on here would have given in to her. I can't tell you the amount of hoes I've thrown out of my room for not coming to an agreement, that's why I now have to negotiate prior. I've been threatened as well but I just know so many people there I really wasn't phased. The extension hair all over the place brings me some fond memories LOL. Probably the weekend warriors and newbies are the ones spoiling the girls. We're counting on guys like you to set then straight.[/QUOTE]You know I've been thinking about the whole price issue and I just believe that the price varies if your an experience monger or a newbie. If your an experience monger like your self and mr. E that's been to Sosua numerous times, know the games, speak spainish then yeah I be payin WAAAY LESS like yaw do and have a take it or leave it attitude.

But a new cat to the game like myself that's still young to the DR culture I'm not goin to arguing or fight over a hoe for $27 which equals to roughly a 1000pesos. She has home field advantage and I'm on vacation. The last thing I need is a crazy broad in my room arguing and screaming. Been there done that. That type of shit sucks the energy out the room IMO!

But when a female starts to trip over money she shows me her true colors, and that's when I know for sure that this broad is a Tigre! Yeah she may have gotten me out of 1000 extra pesos but thats all that hoe is going to get. Next time she sees me she better keep walking cus the only thing she's gettin from me is deezz nuts.

Also if your coming from England or European countries I can understand why they wouldn't mind just paying the broad off. I mean seriously if I had British pounds and transferred it to pesos that extra $1000peso is nothing. Whats that 16. 50gbp that you give to keep a hooker happy and slobing on your johnson and after you kicked her out you don't have to worry about her doing some crazy shit to you the next night you see her.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1142644]We need a beach to relax on (not swim) , we need an affordable airport nearby, we need alcohol, clubs and restaurants and mostly we need pussy.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on everything but the Beach part. The beach is what got us into this mess in the first place, LOL. If Sosua was a trucking stop district (La Mayorista?) I'm sure it would be going on business as usual (pre-crack down) because no one would want (to develop) the place. But nope, it's next to the Beach. A beautiful beach at that.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1142868]I agree with you on everything but the Beach part. The beach is what got us into this mess in the first place, LOL. If Sosua was a trucking stop district (La Mayorista?) I'm sure it would be going on business as usual (pre-crack down) because no one would want (to develop) the place. But nope, it's next to the Beach. A beautiful beach at that.[/QUOTE]You are correct, the beach is the main selling point. By the way thanks for posting Mr. E. Someone on the Colombia board said" find a place with no gringos, where the people are nice, and with available pussy running around then keep your mouth shut". For those who have learned Spanish and explore there are many places like this in the DR.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1142865]You know I've been thinking about the whole price issue and I just believe that the price varies if your an experience monger or a newbie. If your an experience monger like your self and mr. E that's been to Sosua numerous times, know the games, speak spainish then yeah I be payin WAAAY LESS like yaw do and have a take it or leave it attitude.

But a new cat to the game like myself that's still young to the DR culture I'm not goin to arguing or fight over a hoe for $27 which equals to roughly a 1000pesos. She has home field advantage and I'm on vacation. The last thing I need is a crazy broad in my room arguing and screaming. Been there done that. That type of shit sucks the energy out the room IMO!

But when a female starts to trip over money she shows me her true colors, and that's when I know for sure that this broad is a Tigre! Yeah she may have gotten me out of 1000 extra pesos but thats all that hoe is going to get. Next time she sees me she better keep walking cus the only thing she's gettin from me is deezz nuts.

Also if your coming from England or European countries I can understand why they wouldn't mind just paying the broad off. I mean seriously if I had British pounds and transferred it to pesos that extra $1000peso is nothing. Whats that 16. 50gbp that you give to keep a hooker happy and slobing on your johnson and after you kicked her out you don't have to worry about her doing some crazy shit to you the next night you see her. [/QUOTE]I think pussy just like everything has to go up. I been going to sosua for about 3. 5 years and TLN has been $1500 so eventually it will go to $2000/2500K. It is what it is. Lots of these chicas are getting more educated as far as reading what chicas in other countries are getting and other mongers snitching. Etc. And yes the element of european money being heavier is a factor too. Another factor is the NEW YORK Black Americans going to D. R. And trying to act like P Diddy. Its a known fact in Sosua that Black Americans from NY pay the most.

[quote=coolie high; 1142865]you know i've been thinking about the whole price issue and i just believe that the price varies if your an experience monger or a newbie. if your an experience monger like your self and mr. e that's been to sosua numerous times, know the games, speak spainish then yeah i be payin waaay less like yaw do and have a take it or leave it attitude.

but a new cat to the game like myself that's still young to the dr culture i'm not goin to arguing or fight over a hoe for $27 which equals to roughly a 1000pesos. she has home field advantage and i'm on vacation. the last thing i need is a crazy broad in my room arguing and screaming. been there done that. that type of shit sucks the energy out the room imo!

but when a female starts to trip over money she shows me her true colors, and that's when i know for sure that this broad is a tigre! yeah she may have gotten me out of 1000 extra pesos but thats all that hoe is going to get. next time she sees me she better keep walking cus the only thing she's gettin from me is deezz nuts.

also if your coming from england or european countries i can understand why they wouldn't mind just paying the broad off. i mean seriously if i had british pounds and transferred it to pesos that extra $1000peso is nothing. whats that 16. 50gbp that you give to keep a hooker happy and slobing on your johnson and after you kicked her out you don't have to worry about her doing some crazy shit to you the next night you see her. [/quote]i guess most people who monger in sosua are on vacation and have some kind of vacation budget in mind and have some idea of how much they expect to spend on sexual services. the extent to which they want or need to fight over prices depends on their personal budget and expectations.

it is certainly true that when you don't particularly feel like getting laid, then you are in a much better negotiating position as it is then the woman who has to negotiate downwards to get the sale.

personally i prefer to negotiate over price before sex, so that there aren't any nasty surprises. let's face it, no matter how tough a negotiator you are, you don't really have a mental health report on any of the chicas, a drug serum assay, nor do you know exactly what pressures they may be under from dominican boyfriends or family members. it is not the same as negotiating with a car salesman in the us, because you can be pretty sure that he will not call the cops and allege he was raped if he doesn't get a sale. (not usually, anyway.)

i go on vacation and i don't want stress, and i don't particularly want the chicas discussing me with each other and giving unfavorable references. so overall i think it is better to err on the side of overgenerosity.

having said that, i did have some damn good sex in a brothel in boca chica just a couple of weeks ago for only 1000 pesos. however the price was agreed ahead of time, so there was no potential for conflict.

it makes me laugh, though, when i read reports by mongers who claim to have given up sexual opportunities that they wanted just because they didn't want to spoil the market for other mongers. to me this is like saying that i wouldn't overpay for a stock that i wanted to buy, because i don't want to set a precedent that means others will have to pay more too. frankly i don't give a shit about other investors, nor do i care whether other mongers are on a tight budget. i go with woody allen's line that "the heart wants what the heart wants."

i do think it is a bit disingenuous, though, to pick up a chica in a hooker bar in a hooker town, pretend that you didn't know she was pay-for-play, and then write about it on a hooker board.

[quote=frannie; 1142899]i guess most people who monger in sosua are on vacation and have some kind of vacation budget in mind and have some idea of how much they expect to spend on sexual services. the extent to which they want or need to fight over prices depends on their personal budget and expectations.

it is certainly true that when you don't particularly feel like getting laid, then you are in a much better negotiating position as it is then the woman who has to negotiate downwards to get the sale.

personally i prefer to negotiate over price before sex, so that there aren't any nasty surprises. let's face it, no matter how tough a negotiator you are, you don't really have a mental health report on any of the chicas, a drug serum assay, nor do you know exactly what pressures they may be under from dominican boyfriends or family members. it is not the same as negotiating with a car salesman in the us, because you can be pretty sure that he will not call the cops and allege he was raped if he doesn't get a sale. (not usually, anyway.)

i go on vacation and i don't want stress, and i don't particularly want the chicas discussing me with each other and giving unfavorable references. so overall i think it is better to err on the side of overgenerosity.

having said that, i did have some damn good sex in a brothel in boca chica just a couple of weeks ago for only 1000 pesos. however the price was agreed ahead of time, so there was no potential for conflict.

it makes me laugh, though, when i read reports by mongers who claim to have given up sexual opportunities that they wanted just because they didn't want to spoil the market for other mongers. to me this is like saying that i wouldn't overpay for a stock that i wanted to buy, because i don't want to set a precedent that means others will have to pay more too. frankly i don't give a shit about other investors, nor do i care whether other mongers are on a tight budget. i go with woody allen's line that "the heart wants what the heart wants."

i do think it is a bit disingenuous, though, to pick up a chica in a hooker bar in a hooker town, pretend that you didn't know she was pay-for-play, and then write about it on a hooker board. [/quote]i agree 1000. i'm sure if we all had our choice we wouldn't pay for it but like you said. we are in a hooker bar in a hooker town, you need to negotiate from the get go so your time is not wasted and hers. it is what it is.

[QUOTE=Chief Justice;1142896]I think pussy just like everything has to go up. I been going to sosua for about 3. 5 years and TLN has been $1500 so eventually it will go to $2000/2500K. It is what it is. Lots of these chicas are getting more educated as far as reading what chicas in other countries are getting and other mongers snitching. Etc. And yes the element of european money being heavier is a factor too. Another factor is the NEW YORK Black Americans going to D. R. And trying to act like P Diddy. Its a known fact in Sosua that Black Americans from NY pay the most.[/QUOTE]I agree with you to a point with some of what you said, Now the part about Black Americans from N. Y. Pay the most, I think your wrong! It's looks, charm, and some type of vibe between chica and Monger. My 6 years of going to D. R. I nor my boys paid 3000 for TLN. I have paid anywhere from 800-2000 depending on the girl. I have seen, read, and heard of Euro Mongers pay those high prices, and newbies that don't know the game of mongering. For you to come out of your neck to say N. Y. Black Americans pay the most you sound like a fool. Anyone going done there that doesn't know anything are going to pay high prices is what you should have said.

[QUOTE=Bkgee;1142934]I agree with you to a point with some of what you said, Now the part about Black Americans from N. Y. Pay the most, I think your wrong! It's looks, charm, and some type of vibe between chica and Monger. My 6 years of going to D. R. I nor my boys paid 3000 for TLN. I have paid anywhere from 800-2000 depending on the girl. I have seen, read, and heard of Euro Mongers pay those high prices, and newbies that don't know the game of mongering. For you to come out of your neck to say N. Y. Black Americans pay the most you sound like a fool. Anyone going done there that doesn't know anything are going to pay high prices is what you should have said.[/QUOTE].

It is young black Americans from New York, not black American from New York, the older generation knows the game. So, if there's a fool, it's not the guy you answered to but the putas in Sosua. They're the one saying that stuff.

As for the look, charm and vibe as you put it, I haven't seen a lot of it in my seven trip to DR, but I've seen a lot of ugly, old, fat and obnoxious around. We get laid there because we have money.

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger; 1143025].

It is young black Americans from New York, not black American from New York, the older generation knows the game. So, if there's a fool, it's not the guy you answered to but the putas in Sosua. They're the one saying that stuff.

As for the look, charm and vibe as you put it, I haven't seen a lot of it in my seven trip to DR, but I've seen a lot of ugly, old, fat and obnoxious around. We get laid there because we have money. [/QUOTE]

You really can't rely on what the chicas say about these things. Nearly every chica tells me that she doesn't like the young black Americans, but my interpretation is this:

1. Sure, and if your client is a young black American you are probably telling him you can't stand the older, white guys.

Or.

2. She is telling the truth, but I always get the chicas who prefer older white guys, so they are a self selected chica population.

I suspect that just as we have certain kinds of chicas we prefer, the chicas have certain kinds of clients they prefer to entertain, not so much from the point of view of sexual attraction, but from the point of view of hourly rate of peso compensation relative to amount of work required. To a great extent they can select the clients they want by making eye contact, smiling etc, or alternatively not making eye contact with clients they would prefer to avoid.

How about Asian Americans? I am thinking of doing my first Caribbean mongering excursion in Sosua after much experience in Asian. Would chica try to charge me premium because I am Asian who doesn't speak Spanish well? Is it even a good idea for me to monger in Sosua or should I just stick with Asia? Thank you guys

[quote=monger2012;1143068]how about asian americans? i am thinking of doing my first caribbean mongering excursion in sosua after much experience in asian. would chica try to charge me premium because i am asian who doesn't speak spanish well? is it even a good idea for me to monger in sosua or should i just stick with asia? thank you guys[/quote]a chica will try to charge a premium to anyone who they think will pay a premium.

how many times do i have to explain this? a free lance chica is just a woman trying to make some money to get by. she is not a licensed professional like a hair stylist in the usa, or a taxi driver operating off a fixed tariff, so the idea of "going rates" can only be an approximation.

it is important to understand this concept, that the chicas are not just a business. if they were just a business, it might make sense for her economically to charge 750 pesos and to go with a different guy every 30 minutes. she could set up appointments like a hair stylist. but this is not how the dominican chicas operate and if a freelance chica operated in this manner it would be bad for her self esteem and her peer group status.

all you can say is that in sosua a guy can easily have sex with a fairly attractive freelance chica for 2000 pesos or less, maybe even 1000 pesos. possibly even free if she sees you as a longer term revenue source. however, if you are offering 1000 pesos and another guy is right there offering 1500 pesos, then you are probably out of luck.

market forces apply and the actual price you will pay will depend not on your race or language skills, but on how much you want to pay, the level of attractiveness of the chica you want to go with, and whether she thinks she can get more from other clients.

now, if you are dealing with a brothel, then it is a business, for example la passion massage, where you can go and have sex with a girl for a set price that includes the room. the price for straight sex is 2500 pesos. if you had to rent a short term room elsewhere i think you would pay 400 pesos, so you are paying about 2100 pesos for sex and this includes a profit for the house. but you are getting a bit of a discount because these chicas may be having sex several times a day, and this is a full time job for them.

so you might say that you should then definitely pay less than 2100 pesos to any freelancer, since you can have sex with an attractive young woman for that price which includes a third party profit. that might be a reasonable argument, though personally i would rather have sex with a freelancer who may not have had sex for several days and who may be feeling quite horny, as opposed to a la passion girl who may just have got out of the shower with her last client, for all i know.

in reality negotiation is complicated by the fact that if you are at a bar sharing a drink with an attractive young woman, she is stroking your thigh, looking into your eyes, kissing your lips, and you have an erection, you are sharing jokes, and you actually like her, it can be difficult to then send her away and summon another applicant simply over a difference of a few hundred pesos-and the girls know it.

on the asian thing, dominicans are somewhat racist in their speech by prevailing us standard of etiquette. they will address strangers as "gordo" (=fatty) , or "morena" (= brown girl) , or "negrita" (=black girl) , or "flacita" (=skinny) , without a second thought. caucasians are "gringos" or "gringas". if you are an asian, you will probably be "el chino" (=chink). the lowest term of all is "hatiano" or "hatiana" (=haitian) , which in dominican terms is really scraping the barrel.

get used to it and ignore it. it doesn't mean any personal.

as to whether you would be better off mongering in asia as opposed to sosua, you will have to work out your own personal equation.

variables will include:

a) a cost of travel. asia is further away, airfares may cost more (depending on where you are in the us) and the travel time is longer.

be) type of girls you want to have sex with. girls in sosua are mostly brown-skinned of partial african descent, either dominican or haitian. there are no oriental girls. girls in asia are almost exclusively asian.

see) language. if you already speak an asian language and can go somewhere where you can use it, clearly this is a huge advantage. spanish, on the other hand, is fairly easy to pick up as much of the vocabulary is closely related to english vocabulary. for example "dentista","policia","hospital","antibiotico","taxi","autobus","aeropuerto","restaurante", etc. are pretty straight forward, whereas the same words in mandarin chinese bear no resemblance at all to the english words and you can't even read the script. also, you can get by with just english in sosua as it is a tourist resort and there are people speaking english, spanish, italian, german, russian, french, swedish, etc. and they get by just fine.

all in all, i doubt whether a decision to go to sosua or to asia would depend on whether a girl might try to get an extra $15 out of you for sex.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1142899]Having said that, I did have some damn good sex in a brothel in Boca Chica just a couple of weeks ago for only 1000 pesos. However the price was agreed ahead of time, so there was no potential for conflict.[/QUOTE]Which casa was that? I will be in Boca Chica in a couple of weeks and might want to check it out. I tried the Pink House (across from El Candil) on my last trip but was less than impressed. I think it was more that the place didn't seem too clean as much as it was the chica although she was less than enthusiastic.

Speaking of pricing, the three times I walked by in the daytime the girls all offered 1000 pesos but as soon as one got me into the bar she tried to jack me up to 1500.

Thanks for your posts they are very insightful.

[QUOTE=Monger2012;1143068]How about Asian Americans? I am thinking of doing my first Caribbean mongering excursion in Sosua after much experience in Asian. Would chica try to charge me premium because I am Asian who doesn't speak Spanish well? Is it even a good idea for me to monger in Sosua or should I just stick with Asia? Thank you guys[/QUOTE]You should try Sosua. It is a totally different experience than Asian destinations. Spanish girls come in all sizes and color. Many girls from Santiago and La vega can be very fair with blondish natural hair.

Compared to asian girls tend to be fatter with big boobs and big ass.

Yes, girls will jack up the price for gullible ones or those who consider themselves to have hit a jacpot just because they have a pretty girl with them. Read all the reports in the forum and when you are there talk to fellow mongers to see what the going rate is. If you really like the girl you can overpay the girl. All mongers at one time or another have overpaid although many do not admit.

Beware of mercenary girls who say one thing and demand more in the room. I always believe discussing price in the bar as well as confirming it in the room including how long she stays. It is a business deal.

Girls in sosua and in Dominican republic have seen all sorts of guys. Black, white and in between.

Ofcourse they have their preferences. They may go with some and not go with some irrespective of how much money. It is not personal, just like you like some girls and not all.

In mongering never take anything personally. It is not like your GF is screwing somebody.

[QUOTE=Monger2012;1143068]How about Asian Americans? I am thinking of doing my first Caribbean mongering excursion in Sosua after much experience in Asian. Would chica try to charge me premium because I am Asian who doesn't speak Spanish well? Is it even a good idea for me to monger in Sosua or should I just stick with Asia? Thank you guys[/QUOTE]Bachata China Con Flow: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB56Zsa2rWA[/url]

Some of the lyrics: "Papi chulo soy yo" and "Sin agua, Sin luz" (no water and no electricity) , LOL.

Many Asians own pica pollo (fast food chicken) restaurants in DR. In the Jaragua casino in Santo Domingo (SDQ) , appears to me, over 60% of the people gambling at that casino are Asians. Some of the cabanas in SDQ are owned by Asians.

When you are in DR, some people may presume you are an Asian-Dominican.

[quote=bogiemaker; 1143222]which casa was that? i will be in boca chica in a couple of weeks and might want to check it out. i tried the pink house (across from el candil) on my last trip but was less than impressed. i think it was more that the place didn't seem too clean as much as it was the chica although she was less than enthusiastic.

speaking of pricing, the three times i walked by in the daytime the girls all offered 1000 pesos but as soon as one got me into the bar she tried to jack me up to 1500.

thanks for your posts they are very insightful. [/quote]i believe it was the pink house. just around the corner from costa lunga on the steep slope up towards villa florenzia?

i was walking past and of course they tried to lure me in. i said: "no way i don't want sex, i don't even like sex", but they insisted, as is their way, that i should i take a peek at the chicas who where there. i told them that all i had was a 1000 peso bill in my pants pocket (which was true-though i could have gone back to my hotel for more cash if so inclined.) they looked at each other, and said, well, ok. i think things were slow. don't remember the name of the girl. she was tallish, brown skin, and said she was (?) 26, anyway she was upper 20's. anyway she had a unique way of squeezing her pussy that was quite something (don't quite know how she did it) and it turned out to be a hell of a fuck that really hit the spot for me.

no the place wasn't that clean, come to think of it, but i get a kind of kick out of having nasty sex with strangers in sleazy places, so that isn't necessarily a negative for me.

i don't really care about getting rock bottom prices, but if it is important to you, the key is to be unconcerned, and be ready to walk if they cannot deliver at your price point.

to me the problem with negotiating a price that is too low is that the girl may be resentful or she may try to reopen negotiations after you thought it was settled, or she may start angling for excessive propina, taxi fares etc, or she may try to leave in a hurry, or rush to get the sex over. my preference is to get the price negotiations out of the way first and then get on with the sex and take my time.

to open negotiations i may ask them what kind of "gift" (=regalo) they are looking for. if they are asking more than i want to pay, i may work out some kind of bonus incentive scheme, that i will pay only so much, but if the sex is exceptionally good, then a bonus will be forthcoming. that tends to pre-empt renegotiation etc.

but the most important thing is to see whether you have a positive vibe with the girl in the first place. to me the question may be not which girl available is the best looking, but with which girl do i think i will have the best sexual experience, which is not necessarily the same thing. this doesn't mean that i seek out uglies either, but i tend to check out different girls to try to discern their character, sense of humour, whether they seem like a caring and considerate person, and so on.

of course when they are working as hookers they dress and act a role that may be quite different from the underlying personality and i like to try to get a sense of what makes them tick. not always successful, but that is the direction i go, because when you are one-on-one with them in the room you are dealing with an individual, not a public image, and it is what happens in the room that counts most.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1143323]I believe it was the Pink House. Just around the corner from Costa Lunga on the steep slope up towards Villa Florenzia?[/QUOTE]That would be the name of it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1143323].........No the place wasn't that clean, come to think of it, but I get a kind of kick out of having nasty sex with strangers in sleazy places, so that isn't necessarily a negative for me............[/QUOTE]ROTFLMAO

[QUOTE=Bkgee;1142934]I agree with you to a point with some of what you said, Now the part about Black Americans from N. Y. Pay the most, I think your wrong! It's looks, charm, and some type of vibe between chica and Monger. My 6 years of going to D. R. I nor my boys paid 3000 for TLN. I have paid anywhere from 800-2000 depending on the girl. I have seen, read, and heard of Euro Mongers pay those high prices, and newbies that don't know the game of mongering. For you to come out of your neck to say N. Y. Black Americans pay the most you sound like a fool. Anyone going done there that doesn't know anything are going to pay high prices is what you should have said.[/QUOTE]I am quoting what the CHICAS say and I been told by other pple who LIVE there. Who have moved frm the states. Namely Jihad the owner of Sea Breeze. He s talks to chicas and mongers all the time and he has told me this myth more than once. It is what it is. Maybe you and your boys don't over pay but the rumor is BLACK AMERICAN NY'CANS PAY THE MOST.

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger; 1143025]It is young black Americans from New York, not black American from New York, the older generation knows the game. So, if there's a fool, it's not the guy you answered to but the putas in Sosua. They're the one saying that stuff.

As for the look, charm and vibe as you put it, I haven't seen a lot of it in my seven trip to DR, but I've seen a lot of ugly, old, fat and obnoxious around. We get laid there because we have money. [/QUOTE]I like your point, but what I was trying to say is that, these younger guys are not all from N. Y. And they all don't know the game. This is causing some of these chicas to change and the game to change. The guys who have been doing this for years know how to stick to the rules.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1143252]Bachata China Con Flow:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB56Zsa2rWA[/url]

Some of the lyrics: "Papi chulo soy yo" and "Sin agua, Sin luz" (no water and no electricity) , LOL.

Many Asians own pica pollo (fast food chicken) restaurants in DR. In the Jaragua casino in Santo Domingo (SDQ) , appears to me, over 60% of the people gambling at that casino are Asians. Some of the cabanas in SDQ are owned by Asians.

When you are in DR, some people may presume you are an Asian-Dominican. [/QUOTE]LOL, this is a funny song. Actually, I was in Santo Domingo few months ago (not for mongering purpose) , and saw few Asians in the city. I was wondering if it's same for Sosua. Well I could look like Asian-Dominican, but I speak no Spanish at all.

[QUOTE=Chief Justice;1143363]I am quoting what the CHICAS say and I been told by other pple who LIVE there. Who have moved frm the states. Namely Jihad the owner of Sea Breeze. He s talks to chicas and mongers all the time and he has told me this myth more than once. It is what it is. Maybe you and your boys don't over pay but the rumor is BLACK AMERICAN NY'CANS PAY THE MOST.[/QUOTE]A chica once told me that Black Americans (no mention of city or state) pay the most and sometimes without even fucking them. And I'm a Black American, so....

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1143579]A chica once told me that Black Americans (no mention of city or state) pay the most and sometimes without even fucking them. And I'm a Black American, so....[/QUOTE]The bros pay 3000 on a regular, I've seen it with my own eyes and I've talked about it many times with them, but it was mostly because it came from a "take it or leave it" from the chica and they chose to take it or being a newbie. Also it came from lack of the command of Spanish.

I was trying to stay on the sidelines because of the racial tones of these posts.

Most of you are right, the young hipphoppers (Americans but of all races, latin, white and black) are over paying. They don't learn the language and are usually grouped up. Its just a party and show and the whole front is that money is nothing. They take pictures go back home and brag about how they were "balling". So what? They usually get the cheap hoes that most seasoned mongerers won't touch anyway. If your game is sharp the hipphoppers are irrelevant to your purposes.

I have never seen any of these Hipphoppers cause trouble. Never seen a fight in Classicos with these HH (once, two Italians). Shit the Europeans are the ones getting drunk and raising hell. Its funny seeing these "World Travelers" talking about the HH (hipphoppers) fucking up the game. Fellas they are entertainment to me. We forget we were once young and wanted to show off also.

It also trips me out when mongerers try to hold the price code. If I want a certain piece of ass and have to pay 500p (14usd) extra for it I'm not going to say"what would other mongerers think". And for those mongerers who say this, you are lying your asses off.

The real deal is that the older mongerers don't want to monger with younger guys (I'm guilty I don't hang with guys under 30). And that white guys don't like sharing their pussy with black guys and vice versa. Not to mention euro guys don't like to share their pussy with Americanos. Its plenty of hate to go around and we are all GUILTY. So lets not blame one piticular group.

[QUOTE=Chief Justice;1142896]Another factor is the NEW YORK Black Americans going to D. R. And trying to act like P Diddy. Its a known fact in Sosua that Black Americans from NY pay the most.[/QUOTE]

You should avoid the generalizations. A Spanish-speaking brother from NYC, or anywhere else, who pays DOP RD $3,000 is getting more than a TLN. You can get a girl from the campo for toda la semana for that price. Yes, yes we can.

[QUOTE=Professor 1;1143689]You should avoid the generalizations. A Spanish-speaking brother from NYC, or anywhere else, who pays DOP RD $3,000 is getting more than a TLN. You can get a girl from the campo for toda la semana for that price. Yes, yes we can.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more,

I am as black as they come, and I paid a whopping 3200 pesos, for 4 straight days!

But also add in dinner at new gardens, she had to eat, so to generalize all blacks, is.

Stupid, all blacks don't eat watermelon, or play basketball, but I do. LOL. My spanish.

Is horrible at best, like my typing skills, but a huge at, makes them, tend to forget.

But, this puta did try, to black mail this black male, she told me, if I wanted to keep,

Her away from sosua, I needed to send money, every week, well if thats the case.

That puta needed, to move to sosua, and become governor. But I must admit.

Ivd never had better sex, in my life. And p. S to us real brotha. P. Diddy is wacked,

Tupac or biggie maybe. But point well taken its all about the benjamins! Or.

Pesos. Westside all day everyday. Shoutout to Shockman.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1143589]The bros pay 3000 on a regular, I've seen it with my own eyes and I've talked about it many times with them, but it was mostly because it came from a "take it or leave it" from the chica and they chose to take it or being a newbie. Also it came from lack of the command of Spanish.[/QUOTE]And these are the guys that don't know the game down there, they are the one's who pay those prices. In my 6 years my highest price I paid was 2000 and part of that was a tip.

[QUOTE=Monger2012;1143538]LOL, this is a funny song. Actually, I was in Santo Domingo few months ago (not for mongering purpose) , and saw few asians in the city. I was wondering if it's same for sosua. Well I could look like asian-dominican, but I speak no spanish at all.[/QUOTE]When I used to fly into POP (puerto plata airport) , I would see older Koreans, husbands with their wives, with their golf gear at the airport, going for golf trips in the Dom Rep.

Any guy with some money in Sosua, will have no problem finding action.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1143659]It also trips me out when mongerers try to hold the price code. If I want a certain piece of ass and have to pay 500p (14usd) extra for it I'm not going to say"what would other mongerers think". And for those mongerers who say this, you are lying your asses off.

The real deal is that the older mongerers don't want to monger with younger guys (I'm guilty I don't hang with guys under 30). And that white guys don't like sharing their pussy with black guys and vice versa. Not to mention euro guys don't like to share their pussy with Americanos. Its plenty of hate to go around and we are all GUILTY. So lets not blame one piticular group. [/QUOTE]Agreed Mr. Gogo! I honestly could careless what anybody charges cause it's NOT going to affect what I do in Sosua. Each person is going to be sized up differently. Your age, what you wear, knowledge of the culture, can you speak spainish, and most importantly how you carry your self determines ALOT how much you pay.

To the ladies its basic hustlenomics. If you see a guy throwing money around like he's in the rap video, BALLIN as they say, then a honey have to be an idiot to not start of asking for 3000-3500peso. Also if she knows she fine then she's really going to play hardball. And alot of young catz take the bait cus in his mind 3000peso is still a WHOLE LOT less then what he'll pay at home.

How you present your self and knowledge determines your price. You carry your self like a grown ass man, be fair but firm with a honey then even a newbie starting out with price negotiation will be fine. If your a man that loves the extra attention and wants to Ball like he's Diddy chillin in the VIP waving his chain while drinking goose from the bottle in another hand, then be prepared for the female sharks to take your money.

Odds are in there favor cus they know you didn't just come all the way to little ol' Sosua to just drink and flash the cash around with your boys. At the end of the night you want some pussy. Cus that why you REALLY came to Sosua.

Ooh what's that, your a little drunk right now, and you can't speak spainish either. But I can see in your eyes you want these thighs and hips. Ooh is calling you Papi turning you on right now. Then it's going to be 3500peso and I'm all urs. LMAO.

Never underestimate these females in Sosua. They might not have a formal education but there street smarts is off the charts

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger; 1143025].

It is young black Americans from New York, not black American from New York, the older generation knows the game. So, if there's a fool, it's not the guy you answered to but the putas in Sosua. [/QUOTE]As a young African American from the ny area, I'll choose to ignore the racial overtones of these comments and will instead offer another explanation for overpaying, one that makes me occasionally guilty of this particular mongering sin. I make really good money and can afford to go on my mongering expeditions as often as I like. Why then would I want to haggle over what amounts to $15-$30 USD with a woman who clearly needs it more than I do? In the DR, I frequently find myself battling between what I know (don't overpay for anything) and what I feel (it's such a little bit of money for me). Clearly, I don't want a chic to try to get over on me or take advantage of me, but on the other hand, the difference between $2000 pesos and $3000 pesos is irrelevant (and I really don't give a damn about setting the cost bar too high for the next man, broke asses need to stay the he'll home anyway). At least for me, I don' t trip on 'paying too much, ' as long as at the end of the trip I had a great time. Remember, the reason that you're getting all of this ass is because they really need the money, and if an extra $15 is going to break you then gourde probably already broke.

I'm neither African-American nor from NY but I completely agree with you. I use the same reasoning in the DR as I do in my native India I. E. The little bit extra means little to me and a heck of a lot more to a chica who's trying to keep body and soul together.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1143965]As a young African American from the ny area, I'll choose to ignore the racial overtones of these comments and will instead offer another explanation for overpaying, one that makes me occasionally guilty of this particular mongering sin. I make really good money and can afford to go on my mongering expeditions as often as I like. Why then would I want to haggle over what amounts to $15-$30 USD with a woman who clearly needs it more than I do? In the DR, I frequently find myself battling between what I know (don't overpay for anything) and what I feel (it's such a little bit of money for me). Clearly, I don't want a chic to try to get over on me or take advantage of me, but on the other hand, the difference between $2000 pesos and $3000 pesos is irrelevant (and I really don't give a damn about setting the cost bar too high for the next man, broke asses need to stay the he'll home anyway). At least for me, I don' t trip on 'paying too much, ' as long as at the end of the trip I had a great time. Remember, the reason that you're getting all of this ass is because they really need the money, and if an extra $15 is going to break you then gourde probably already broke.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1143659]I was trying to stay on the sidelines because of the racial tones of these posts.

Most of you are right, the young hipphoppers (Americans but of all races, latin, white and black) are over paying. They don't learn the language and are usually grouped up. Its just a party and show and the whole front is that money is nothing. They take pictures go back home and brag about how they were "balling". So what? They usually get the cheap hoes that most seasoned mongerers won't touch anyway. If your game is sharp the hipphoppers are irrelevant to your purposes.

I have never seen any of these Hipphoppers cause trouble. Never seen a fight in Classicos with these HH (once, two Italians). Shit the Europeans are the ones getting drunk and raising hell. Its funny seeing these "World Travelers" talking about the HH (hipphoppers) fucking up the game. Fellas they are entertainment to me. We forget we were once young and wanted to show off also.

It also trips me out when mongerers try to hold the price code. If I want a certain piece of ass and have to pay 500p (14usd) extra for it I'm not going to say"what would other mongerers think". And for those mongerers who say this, you are lying your asses off.

The real deal is that the older mongerers don't want to monger with younger guys (I'm guilty I don't hang with guys under 30). And that white guys don't like sharing their pussy with black guys and vice versa. Not to mention euro guys don't like to share their pussy with Americanos. Its plenty of hate to go around and we are all GUILTY. So lets not blame one piticular group. [/QUOTE]Good post. As you say, there is plenty of hate to go around, so lets try this. Live and let live. What some other guys do may not be one's own style, but as long as they are enjoying themselves and not bothering anyone else, don't let it affect your holiday.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1143965]As a young African American from the ny area, I'll choose to ignore the racial overtones of these comments and will instead offer another explanation for overpaying, one that makes me occasionally guilty of this particular mongering sin. I make really good money and can afford to go on my mongering expeditions as often as I like. Why then would I want to haggle over what amounts to $15-$30 USD with a woman who clearly needs it more than I do? In the DR, I frequently find myself battling between what I know (don't overpay for anything) and what I feel (it's such a little bit of money for me). Clearly, I don't want a chic to try to get over on me or take advantage of me, but on the other hand, the difference between $2000 pesos and $3000 pesos is irrelevant (and I really don't give a damn about setting the cost bar too high for the next man, broke asses need to stay the he'll home anyway). At least for me, I don' t trip on 'paying too much, ' as long as at the end of the trip I had a great time. Remember, the reason that you're getting all of this ass is because they really need the money, and if an extra $15 is going to break you then gourde probably already broke.[/QUOTE]You may not like the fact that AA guys from NYC are treated differently than others, but if it is what it is, it is what it is. That doesn't make it right, but, for now, it doesn't change reality.

I agree with you that I don't worry too much about haggling over prices with the chicas, when the prices are so cheap compared to home, and, they can definitely use the money. But to not give a damn about the "broke asses" who "need to stay the he'll home anyway" is what gives NY'ers the bad name that they have with many. It kind of contradicts your charitable attitude to the chicas.

Maybe you can find a midpoint between your two statements.

I have noticed that over the law few years there have been much more black mongers coming to sosua. I wonder why?

I don't see whats wrong with paying the "standard rates" or paying what the "majority" of people pay. Just because you pay more, or can or cannot afford to pay more for sure will not guarantee you any better session then the prior guy or the next guy. I mean who are you trying to impress anyways? Just go with the flow and assimilate. I'm not talking take advantage of but give what these girls are used to.

Overpaying will ruin the experience for everyone else. We do not want DR to turn into CR. Pay the normal expected price or don't come to DR.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1143579]A chica once told me that Black Americans (no mention of city or state) pay the most and sometimes without even fucking them. And I'm a Black American, so....[/QUOTE]I'm black american as well and I know a lot of ppple who live in sosua and other cities. I am not sure if it is true or not, nor do I care, but I am just relaying what a lot of chicas say and think. Also, what others how live there say. Jihad talks to several chicas and mongers and gets the 411 DAILY. Don't kill the messenger. I don't care what yall do as long as you DO YOU.

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1144114]Overpaying will ruin the experience for everyone else. We do not want DR to turn into CR. Pay the normal expected price or don't come to DR.[/QUOTE]Exactly. There is something special about sosua and the low price is a big part of it. Fellas do you, but be reasonable. Esp you ny'cans. LOL

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1144114]Overpaying will ruin the experience for everyone else. We do not want DR to turn into CR. Pay the normal expected price or don't come to DR.[/QUOTE]WAY too late for that in So-Sewer ville

My donation varies from 1500 for short time to 2500p for all day and all night. Massage parlors I pay 600 to 800 pesos. That includes BJ and massage. Regulars might get food and drinks thrown in. Bad attitudes get 2000 for tln if I'm in a good mood to 1500p to just fuck me and leave.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1143965]As a young African American from the ny area, I'll choose to ignore the racial overtones of these comments and will instead offer another explanation for overpaying, one that makes me occasionally guilty of this particular mongering sin. I make really good money and can afford to go on my mongering expeditions as often as I like. Why then would I want to haggle over what amounts to $15-$30 USD with a woman who clearly needs it more than I do? In the DR, I frequently find myself battling between what I know (don't overpay for anything) and what I feel (it's such a little bit of money for me). Clearly, I don't want a chic to try to get over on me or take advantage of me, but on the other hand, the difference between $2000 pesos and $3000 pesos is irrelevant (and I really don't give a damn about setting the cost bar too high for the next man, broke asses need to stay the he'll home anyway). At least for me, I don' t trip on 'paying too much, ' as long as at the end of the trip I had a great time. Remember, the reason that you're getting all of this ass is because they really need the money, and if an extra $15 is going to break you then gourde probably already broke.[/QUOTE]True here are the reasons why we travel to these countries.

1. Cheap P*why.

2. Exotic P*why.

The #1 reason is cheap, cheap and cheap p*why. Why pay more for what is available for less? And by paying more messing the whole playing area.

If you make good money good for you, in fact you are just another cheap monger (Well I am one) , because if you really RICH there is tons of overpriced p*why available right here in US. So why don't you stay where you are and pay whatever you want to?

[quote=thair9999; 1144131]true here are the reasons why we travel to these countries.

1. Cheap p*why.

2. Exotic p*why.

The #1 reason is cheap, cheap and cheap p*why. Why pay more for what is available for less? And by paying more messing the whole playing area.

If you make good money good for you, in fact you are just another cheap monger (well i am one) , because if you really rich there is tons of overpriced p*why available right here in us. So why don't you stay where you are and pay whatever you want to? [/quote]amen! Amen! Halle-fukin-lujah!

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1144108]I have noticed that over the law few years there have been much more black mongers coming to sosua. I wonder why?[/QUOTE]Wow, I've never heard a more stupid question, I appologize my fellow mongers, Maybe beerdrinker mustve had one to many beers! I have a news flash! Black Mongers, go for the same,

Reason that whites, asians, latinos etc, to have fun with exotic women, and another news flash, not all black mongers,

Overpay, I'm along way from Ny area, on that left coast California, area and I've over paid when I didn't, know any.

Better. So Oregon, Washington and California area, weve all overpaid, due to ignorance, or not knowing any better,

But 7 trips later, I'm still considered a newbie, but alot more advanced, than my first trip, I guess the tone of this.

Board has taken a unintended turn, and 98% of you mongers I will never meet, but Whites, Blacks, Aliens, E. T,

Darth Vader, to Star Trek captain kirk, will probaly overpay in Sosua, maybe not Darth Vader he has the force,

And I gurantee. 10 years from now, this debate will be alive and well, probaly bitching aabout the same old crap,

And shoutout, to my hip hop brothers from NYC, as well as my white brothers from Montana, I love you all.

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1144108]I have noticed that over the law few years there have been much more black mongers coming to sosua. I wonder why?[/QUOTE]I'm betting this trend will reverse now that the New Sosua is in full effect. Brothas don't dig the whole "Euro Vibe" as you see where it has gotten us in the New Sosua. Brothas don't go to the beach just to lay around in the sun baking like beached whales; when brothas go to the beach that want to see tits and ass in bikinis. Having the beach in Sosua was nice, but I don't know of any brothas (including myself) that would hang there. I had two bros take me to the beach once. We walked from one end to the next and that was enough for me. It's a tourist trap and we were smart enough to avoid it. I'm thinking if the beach was elsewhere, the old Sosua would still be there running on all four cylinders.

Also, only with Americans do you see blacks, whites, asians, etc. (and even Canadians!) all hanging together and trading chica stories with no problems. The Euros don't like mixing it up with the brothas (trust me, I've seen this up close and personal just asking about the menu at NG) , so brothas will start to do their own thing elsewhere. Only the young knucleheads in our community that haven't yet gotten the memo or are too lazy to pick up Spanish will be stuck in the Sosua Cycle. I for one will not be taking my black ass back there anytime soon.

I personally know too many brothas that have been navigating the island behind the scenes for years and know to keep their mouths shut. The game is to be sold, not to be told.

Gentlemen gentlemen,

I believe we've venture WAY off course with the blk man from NY over pays topic. One group of people or anybody else for that matter is NOT going to affect how much you pay in Sosua. You as a person will affect it. Now last I check we were in the middle of a good trip report before shit went left field.

Mr. Enternational as you were.

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1144108]I have noticed that over the law few years there have been much more black mongers coming to sosua. I wonder why?[/QUOTE]Actually it is an interesting question, that could be considered on a number of levels.

1. Transportation. Flights from the US to POP originate out of Miami, Atlanta, and the New York area. Atlanta is a predominantly Black city, but I suspect that when we are talking about African-American mongers, we oten tend to be referring to guys coming from the New York region, flying out of airports in that area.

2. When I discovered the DR as a good place for sex, I immediately asked myself why there were relatively so few mongers in Sosua. Wouldn't every single guy in the Eastern US want to get down there a few times a year and get fucked stupid?

However, when I thought about this, it appeared to me that the vast majority of guys have family ties and contacts who know where they are at all times and who would strongly disapprove of even a suspicion that they were traveling for purposes of paid sex. Also religious and church affiliation is a factor for a significant part of the population, and a vast percentage of the population does not live within 4 hours drive of one of the gateway airports, making access for a "lost weekend" less convenient and more expensive.

3. In my work I know hundreds of people and it is well known that I have been to the Dominican Republic many times and that I have a Dominican wife, and that I speak Spanish. Sometimes I am called on to translate. Yet over several years NO ONE has ever asked me about prostitution in the DR. Not even my male friends, although I get the occasional oblique hint about attractive Dominican women.

I think this is because this would be seen as a very inappropriate thing to ask about in the workplace, and because I have an ultra respectable image, so people would not dare raise the topic with me for fear of causing offense. I want it this way. I would not want there to be even a whisper to suggest that I am a person who would use prostitutes.

When I travel to the DR, I always travel alone (or with wife). No one other than some people who know me in the DR knows that I have ever paid for sex.

4. Black mongers in Sosua or at Blackbeards often seem to travel in groups, or at least in pairs. This suggests to me that they are much less concerned about being exposed back home, so I wonder whether the black community in the US is more tolerant of paying for sex than the community at large. Another factor may be that there are many African Americans in the military, who may have developed a taste for paying for sex while serving overseas, and many of the AA mongers we see in Sosua may be ex-military.

I know that when I was a young man I would not have dreamed of paying for sex, because it would have seemed to me that such a thing was sleazy and an admission of failure to be found sexually attractive by potential partners. I didn't pay for sex until I was in the late 40's and the age differential equation came into play. Simply put, by paying I could have sex with a woman younger than what I could get for free (and better looking too) and since I was now more affluent, and less concerned about looking for "relationships", the inhibitions about paying for sex were lifted.

5. To be a monger and travel to Sosua requires that you have a passport and a reasonable amount of money. This rules out convicted felons and the poor and makes mongering basically a middle class pursuit. While you may see guys in Sosua at the weekend wearing basketball shirts, baseball caps on backwards, and earings, chances are that they are respectable citizens-corporate employees or civil servants-in their day jobs, or that they have some kind of responsible uniformed job-cop, firefighter, prison guard and that they are playing the part of "hip-hopper" as a kind of fantasy fulfillment.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1144087]You may not like the fact that AA guys from NYC are treated differently than others, but if it is what it is, it is what it is. That doesn't make it right, but, for now, it doesn't change reality.

I agree with you that I don't worry too much about haggling over prices with the chicas, when the prices are so cheap compared to home, and, they can definitely use the money. But to not give a damn about the "broke asses" who "need to stay the he'll home anyway" is what gives NY'ers the bad name that they have with many. It kind of contradicts your charitable attitude to the chicas.

Maybe you can find a midpoint between your two statements. [/QUOTE]Hey Ath. My point was simply that I can't worry about some other man's wallet and I certainly don't want anyone else worrying about mine. The truth is that the mongering game costs, and those who can't afford to play (I. E, worrying about every little dollar they spend) probably needs to find a less expensive hobby. It is pay for play and those who can't pay.

To Frannie.

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Interesting attempt to explain why so many Blacks go to DR, but I have.

Comments:

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Transportation- this assumption is flawed because anyone willing to deal.

With a layover in Miami or Atlanta can get to the DR, thus all Blacks that.

You see in the DR aren't from NY (I live in Maryland and go frequently).

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Tolerance of paying for sex: Your assumption that the Black Community is.

'more tolerant of paying for sex' is ignorant and borderline racist as is.

The assumption that military Blacks 'developed a taste for paying for sex.

Over seas. '* My family and closest friends are absolutely mortified that I.

Go to the DR for that purpose, but as a single man, I make my own.

Decisions. * I see no need to hide what I do from anyone, as the only one.

That has to live with my decisions is me. * To cast such malicious.

Assumptions about a whole group of people (e. G. That the Black Community as.

A whole is fine with prostitution) is not only offensive, but absolutely.

Idiotic. * For the record, research has shown that Blacks are among the most.

Spiritual races on the planet, and that spirituality does not embrace.

Prostitution.

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Hip-hoppers- I do agree that mongering is a middle class activity, and that.

Your assertion that you can't assume anything about a Black that you see in.

Sosua who is wearing baseball caps, athletic jerseys and the like is.

Correct. * However, its interesting (in a distressing sort of way) that the.

Best you would assume for a Black Man in the DR is that he is a 'corporate.

Employee or civil servant in their day jobs or that they are some kind of.

Responsible job-cop, firefighter, prison guard, and playing the part of hip-

Hopper as a kind of fantasy fulfillment. '* Unless you are a sociologist.

That studies Black Men, I'the suggest that you leave the generalizations to.

Social scientists because you sound like a bigot. * I am Black and a monger.

That happens to hold a Ph. D, makes a six figure salary, owns my own home.

And has 2 cars (both paid for) and when I go to the DR I am on vacation.

Thus I wear baggy pants, my ear ring, my hat on backwards, etc. * All of.

That is because I am relaxing. * Also, I am not playing the role of a hip-

Hopper, that is part of my culture and I choose to fully express it when I.

Am on vacation. * Please stop assuming that you know everything about Black.

Life. * It sounds ignorant. * Hell, I am Black and I wouldn't assume that I.

Know everything about Black life.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1144334]Actually it is an interesting question, that could be considered on a number of levels.

1. Transportation. Flights from the US to POP originate out of Miami, Atlanta, and the New York area. Atlanta is a predominantly Black city, but I suspect that when we are talking about African-American mongers, we oten tend to be referring to guys coming from the New York region, flying out of airports in that area.

2. When I discovered the DR as a good place for sex, I immediately asked myself why there were relatively so few mongers in Sosua. Wouldn't every single guy in the Eastern US want to get down there a few times a year and get fucked stupid?

However, when I thought about this, it appeared to me that the vast majority of guys have family ties and contacts who know where they are at all times and who would strongly disapprove of even a suspicion that they were traveling for purposes of paid sex. Also religious and church affiliation is a factor for a significant part of the population, and a vast percentage of the population does not live within 4 hours drive of one of the gateway airports, making access for a "lost weekend" less convenient and more expensive.

3. In my work I know hundreds of people and it is well known that I have been to the Dominican Republic many times and that I have a Dominican wife, and that I speak Spanish. Sometimes I am called on to translate. Yet over several years NO ONE has ever asked me about prostitution in the DR. Not even my male friends, although I get the occasional oblique hint about attractive Dominican women.

I think this is because this would be seen as a very inappropriate thing to ask about in the workplace, and because I have an ultra respectable image, so people would not dare raise the topic with me for fear of causing offense. I want it this way. I would not want there to be even a whisper to suggest that I am a person who would use prostitutes.

When I travel to the DR, I always travel alone (or with wife). No one other than some people who know me in the DR knows that I have ever paid for sex.

4. Black mongers in Sosua or at Blackbeards often seem to travel in groups, or at least in pairs. This suggests to me that they are much less concerned about being exposed back home, so I wonder whether the black community in the US is more tolerant of paying for sex than the community at large. Another factor may be that there are many African Americans in the military, who may have developed a taste for paying for sex while serving overseas, and many of the AA mongers we see in Sosua may be ex-military.

I know that when I was a young man I would not have dreamed of paying for sex, because it would have seemed to me that such a thing was sleazy and an admission of failure to be found sexually attractive by potential partners. I didn't pay for sex until I was in the late 40's and the age differential equation came into play. Simply put, by paying I could have sex with a woman younger than what I could get for free (and better looking too) and since I was now more affluent, and less concerned about looking for "relationships", the inhibitions about paying for sex were lifted.

5. To be a monger and travel to Sosua requires that you have a passport and a reasonable amount of money. This rules out convicted felons and the poor and makes mongering basically a middle class pursuit. While you may see guys in Sosua at the weekend wearing basketball shirts, baseball caps on backwards, and earings, chances are that they are respectable citizens-corporate employees or civil servants-in their day jobs, or that they have some kind of responsible uniformed job-cop, firefighter, prison guard and that they are playing the part of "hip-hopper" as a kind of fantasy fulfillment. [/QUOTE]

I see a disturbing number of racist and semi racist comments from my fellow mongers. Maybe we need to open a cultural sensitivity thread to help everyone keep a civil tongue in their heads. BTW, I love Sosua. (see how I keep it on topic for this thread).

[QUOTE=Sovereign; 1144387]'* My family and closest friends are absolutely mortified that I.

Go to the DR for that purpose, but as a single man, I make my own.

Decisions. * I see no need to hide what I do from anyone, as the only one.

That has to live with my decisions is me. *

* I am Black and a monger.

That happens to hold a Ph. D, makes a six figure salary, owns my own home.

And has 2 cars (both paid for). . . [/QUOTE]Well, fine, good for you, but many in many fields where people with doctorates are employed, letting it be known publicly that you are a monger would be professional suicide. For example in education, medicine, law, public administration. In general I would say that people in the higher echelons of society would be LESS likely to visit Sosua because they have more to lose through public exposure.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1144400]Well, fine, good for you, but many in many fields where people with doctorates are employed, letting it be known publicly that you are a monger would be professional suicide. For example in education, medicine, law, public administration. In general I would say that people in the higher echelons of society would be LESS likely to visit Sosua because they have more to lose through public exposure.[/QUOTE]I didn't share because I want a pat on the back for a job well done. I was trying to point out the inappropriate generalizations that you were making about Black people and the Black men that go to the DR. There may be some 'thugs' that go to the DR, but there are also successful folks that go to have fun too. Let's just be careful of how we generalize about others, that's all I'm saying.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1144407]I didn't share because I want a pat on the back for a job well done. I was trying to point out the inappropriate generalizations that you were making about Black people and the Black men that go to the DR. There may be some 'thugs' that go to the DR, but there are also successful folks that go to have fun too. Let's just be careful of how we generalize about others, that's all I'm saying.[/QUOTE]If you read my earlier post carefully, you will see that I said that by far the majority of AA mongers that you will meet in Sosua are middle class with respectable home lives, decent jobs, etc. I said nothing about "thugs" whatsoever. You are upbraiding me for not claiming that many of the AA mongers are upper echelon people like you, but I'm still not really convinced it is so.

The question I was interested in is why there are so many, relatively speaking, AA mongers in Sosua considering that AA men are a minority in the US. Another way to frame the hypothesis, which I am sure that you as a Ph. D. Will appreciate, is that there are relatively few Caucasian American mongers in Sosua? Why are they probably outnumbered by Germans? There must be some cultural or economic factor that discourages them.

We could examine the hypothesis that they prefer to visit other places in the DR (or other countries) , and I am sure they do, but not in large numbers. Certainly when I am on the plane, whether flying to and from Santo Domingo, Santiago, or Puerto Plata, I don't see many single Caucasian men. Most of the passengers are Dominicans.

Another hypothesis might be that many Caucasian American men don't find Dominican women sexually attractive, but I find this highly improbable. Highly.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1144421]If you read my earlier post carefully, you will see that I said that by far the majority of AA mongers that you will meet in Sosua are middle class with respectable home lives, decent jobs, etc. I said nothing about "thugs" whatsoever. You are upbraiding me for not claiming that many of the AA mongers are upper echelon people like you, but I'm still not really convinced it is so.

The question I was interested in is why there are so many, relatively speaking, AA mongers in Sosua considering that AA men are a minority in the US. Another way to frame the hypothesis, which I am sure that you as a Ph. D. Will appreciate, is that there are relatively few Caucasian American mongers in Sosua? Why are they probably outnumbered by Germans? There must be some cultural or economic factor that discourages them.

We could examine the hypothesis that they prefer to visit other places in the DR (or other countries) , and I am sure they do, but not in large numbers. Certainly when I am on the plane, whether flying to and from Santo Domingo, Santiago, or Puerto Plata, I don't see many single Caucasian men. Most of the passengers are Dominicans.

Another hypothesis might be that many Caucasian American men don't find Dominican women sexually attractive, but I find this highly improbable. Highly.[/QUOTE]LMAO. Frannie you have braids? Please don't come unbraided. You don't have a huge rope chain with pimp medallion also? LMAO. About now this forum could use some humor.

I don't think you are a racist, just very educated and opinonated. But you have to be smart enough not to wade into racial topics unless you want to be questioned.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1144334]5. To be a monger and travel to Sosua requires that you have a passport and a reasonable amount of money. This rules out convicted felons and the poor and makes mongering basically a middle class pursuit. While you may see guys in Sosua at the weekend wearing basketball shirts, baseball caps on backwards, and earings, chances are that they are respectable citizens-corporate employees or civil servants-in their day jobs, or that they have some kind of responsible uniformed job-cop, firefighter, prison guard and that they are playing the part of "hip-hopper" as a kind of fantasy fulfillment.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sovereign; 1144387]To Frannie.

*

Interesting attempt to explain why so many Blacks go to DR, but I have.

Comments:

*

Transportation- this assumption is flawed because anyone willing to deal.

With a layover in Miami or Atlanta can get to the DR, thus all Blacks that.

You see in the DR aren't from NY (I live in Maryland and go frequently).

*

Tolerance of paying for sex: Your assumption that the Black Community is.

'more tolerant of paying for sex' is ignorant and borderline racist as is.

The assumption that military Blacks 'developed a taste for paying for sex.

Over seas. '* My family and closest friends are absolutely mortified that I.

Go to the DR for that purpose, but as a single man, I make my own.

Decisions. * I see no need to hide what I do from anyone, as the only one.

That has to live with my decisions is me. * To cast such malicious.

Assumptions about a whole group of people (e. G. That the Black Community as.

A whole is fine with prostitution) is not only offensive, but absolutely.

Idiotic. * For the record, research has shown that Blacks are among the most.

Spiritual races on the planet, and that spirituality does not embrace.

Prostitution.

*

Hip-hoppers- I do agree that mongering is a middle class activity, and that.

Your assertion that you can't assume anything about a Black that you see in.

Sosua who is wearing baseball caps, athletic jerseys and the like is.

Correct. * However, its interesting (in a distressing sort of way) that the.

Best you would assume for a Black Man in the DR is that he is a 'corporate.

Employee or civil servant in their day jobs or that they are some kind of.

Responsible job-cop, firefighter, prison guard, and playing the part of hip-

Hopper as a kind of fantasy fulfillment. '* Unless you are a sociologist.

That studies Black Men, I'the suggest that you leave the generalizations to.

Social scientists because you sound like a bigot. * I am Black and a monger.

That happens to hold a Ph. D, makes a six figure salary, owns my own home.

And has 2 cars (both paid for) and when I go to the DR I am on vacation.

Thus I wear baggy pants, my ear ring, my hat on backwards, etc. * All of.

That is because I am relaxing. * Also, I am not playing the role of a hip-

Hopper, that is part of my culture and I choose to fully express it when I.

Am on vacation. * Please stop assuming that you know everything about Black.

Life. * It sounds ignorant. * Hell, I am Black and I wouldn't assume that I.

Know everything about Black life. [/QUOTE]I actually agreed with Frannie's summary. I tried to read your repudiation as something that would be thoughtful and informative, but every other word you make it a point to refer to Frannie as "ignorant" or a "bigot." I see that you are calling for a separate "cultural sensitivity thread", but for someone with a Ph. D you could at least keep your responses civil.

That is an interesting observation that I don't see many Caucasian A mericans in the DR. I would be curious as to why that is. Given that on any given trip you may see a lot of Black men around Sosua doesn't neccessarily mean that a lot of Black men go. It could be a sampling Issue or merely a popular weekend like superbowl that attracted a large number that time). I would like to hear from any members that spend long periods of time their at a given time or even have lived there. It could just be that a few Black men are going over and over again (I met a Black guy that goes back every other month).

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1144421]If you read my earlier post carefully, you will see that I said that by far the majority of AA mongers that you will meet in Sosua are middle class with respectable home lives, decent jobs, etc. I said nothing about "thugs" whatsoever. You are upbraiding me for not claiming that many of the AA mongers are upper echelon people like you, but I'm still not really convinced it is so.

The question I was interested in is why there are so many, relatively speaking, AA mongers in Sosua considering that AA men are a minority in the US. Another way to frame the hypothesis, which I am sure that you as a Ph. D. Will appreciate, is that there are relatively few Caucasian American mongers in Sosua? Why are they probably outnumbered by Germans? There must be some cultural or economic factor that discourages them.

We could examine the hypothesis that they prefer to visit other places in the DR (or other countries) , and I am sure they do, but not in large numbers. Certainly when I am on the plane, whether flying to and from Santo Domingo, Santiago, or Puerto Plata, I don't see many single Caucasian men. Most of the passengers are Dominicans.

Another hypothesis might be that many Caucasian American men don't find Dominican women sexually attractive, but I find this highly improbable. Highly. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1144433]I actually agreed with Frannie's summary. I tried to read your repudiation as something that would be thoughtful and informative, but every other word you make it a point to refer to Frannie as "ignorant" or a "bigot." I see that you are calling for a separate "cultural sensitivity thread", but for someone with a Ph. D you could at least keep your responses civil.[/QUOTE]I assume I have the freedom on this board to take offense to comments and express that offense, regardless of my educational level. The cultural sensitivity thread was an attempt to introduce levity into the situation. Underlying the attempt is still the fact that there have been several comments (not just by Frannie) that I feel are inappropriate characterizations of Black men and finally decided to voice my opinions. I didn't attempt to attack Frannie nor did I call him a bigot or racist. I also don't think I need to sit quietly by and allow it to continue unchallenged.

I just had another thought about the great question that you raised. It may not be valid after all. Let me explain. When I go out to Classico on an average Saturday night, I may see 40 Blacks and only 8 whites in the club. Initial impression could lead you to say that there are a lot of Blacks (and relatively there are). However relative to the number of Blacks in the States, the number 40 is insignificant (I believe there are something like 7 million Black men in the US). Even if a new group of Black men came in every week of the year (which we can agree isn't the case) the number still wouldn't reach significance. It's just impossible. Even if you curved your number up to 1000 new Blacks each week (which it clearly isn't) you'd only be talking about 52, 000 Blacks out of 7, 000, 000. It's a faulty comparison to make assumptions based on relative comparison in this situation.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1144421]The question I was interested in is why there are so many, relatively speaking, AA mongers in Sosua considering that AA men are a minority in the US. Another way to frame the hypothesis, which I am sure that you as a Ph. D. Will appreciate, is that there are relatively few Caucasian American mongers in Sosua? Why are they probably outnumbered by Germans? There must be some cultural or economic factor that discourages them.

We could examine the hypothesis that they prefer to visit other places in the DR (or other countries) , and I am sure they do, but not in large numbers. Certainly when I am on the plane, whether flying to and from Santo Domingo, Santiago, or Puerto Plata, I don't see many single Caucasian men. Most of the passengers are Dominicans.

Another hypothesis might be that many Caucasian American men don't find Dominican women sexually attractive, but I find this highly improbable. Highly. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1144467]I just had another thought about the great question that you raised. It may not be valid after all. Let me explain. When I go out to Classico on an average Saturday night, I may see 40 Blacks and only 8 whites in the club. Initial impression could lead you to say that there are a lot of Blacks (and relatively there are). However relative to the number of Blacks in the States, the number 40 is insignificant (I believe there are something like 7 million Black men in the US). Even if a new group of Black men came in every week of the year (which we can agree isn't the case) the number still wouldn't reach significance. It's just impossible. Even if you curved your number up to 1000 new Blacks each week (which it clearly isn't) you'd only be talking about 52, 000 Blacks out of 7, 000, 000. It's a faulty comparison to make assumptions based on relative comparison in this situation.[/QUOTE]Sovereign,

As we are told as children, we are always going to have give 150% to the rest of the worlds 100.

It seems this thread rubbed you the wrong way, and I can see why, but like water on fish, just let it roll off.

We will always have to explain ourselves when other cultures do what the "world" deems immoral or normal or whatever when we enter that venue.

I'm from Oregon with the black population at only 4. 5, I drive the city bus, decent income, homeowner, but it's like driving for "Miss Daisy " everyday, with the comments and ridicule.

I went to Sousa for the first time in 2009 for 3 weeks. I wanted a closer place because the plane trip to Thailand was wearing me out. I had a blast, only visited the bars a couple of times, because a Motorbike taxi guy and I hooked up and I got to explore his hood with him, that's how I met my women, in his neighborhood.

My spanish has improved since then, so I have 3 women in 3 different cities, waiting for my call when I get there in 3 weeks I met on DominicanCupid.

But every comment on here I have heard in every country I've been too, who cares. I bet you get talked about in your own city don't you?

It's our world like everybody else's.

Go where you want, do what you want, be who you are.

Criticism often stems from insecurity anyway, don't play the game, make your own game. I do.

NoWrath

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1144114]Overpaying will ruin the experience for everyone else. We do not want DR to turn into CR. Pay the normal expected price or don't come to DR.[/QUOTE]To be honest, I pay what I feel the chica earns. I tell each chica that I'll pay a base amount for ST or TLN and if she does a great job, I'll pay her more. That seems to work all the time. It does cause a conversation about the bonus at the end of the night but by then she's leaving so a small bonus or a big bonus ends the same, she's leaving.

I don't believe that enough guys overpaying chicas is going to change the rate for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1144421]We could examine the hypothesis that they prefer to visit other places in the DR (or other countries) , and I am sure they do, but not in large numbers. Certainly when I am on the plane, whether flying to and from Santo Domingo, Santiago, or Puerto Plata, I don't see many single Caucasian men. Most of the passengers are Dominicans. Another hypothesis might be that many Caucasian American men don't find Dominican women sexually attractive, but I find this highly improbable. Highly.[/QUOTE]My hypothesis is simply that they don't know the place exists or are not aware of the scene or they don't want to get away from their comfort zone (usual mongering place). That goes for any race.

1. My first time in Brazil I was with my then wife. We went to Salvador and Rio. We stayed right on Av. Atlantica in Copacabana and I still didn't know about the scene there until I returned over a year later with some friends of mine who already knew about everything.

2. I would go to Bangkok often and hang out on the scene but I didn't know Pattaya (which is the biggest scene on the planet in volume and area and only one and a half hour away from Bangkok) even existed until I met a guy in the hotel lobby who said he was waiting for a bus to go there. I asked him what was there. He said it was like Bangkok but better and cheaper. I still didn't go there until 3 or 4 trips later and I haven't looked back.

3. My first few times in DR I was in Boca Chica because I had gone with another friend who had led the way. We didn't even know Sosua existed until another friend of ours told us.

I know many guys who like to go to Costa Rica and Panama. I tell them why not just go to Colombia or DR since that is where all the girls come from. Go get them at the source where it is cheaper. The only reason the girls go to the other countries is because they can make more money than at home. You think the guys have even considered changing their pattern? No. Because they are comfortable. The same goes for my friends who would only go to Rio in its heyday and wouldn't try other places.

Americans are used to going to Florida and maybe the Bahamas or Jamaica. Germans are used to venturing out of Europe and setting up "colonies" in warmer destinations such as Sosua and Pattaya. They don't just go to monger, but bring their whole family along. As Frannie said, most of the people on the DR flights are Dominican with the exception of a few white families (throw in a few missionaries as there was a large church group at Sosua Bay Hotel last week) who will be going to resorts in Punta Cana and occasionally Puerto Plata.

For the last several years, whenever I have gone to a new place, I get into a taxi and ask, "Where are the women?"

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1144493]Sovereign,

As we are told as children, we are always going to have give 150% to the rest of the worlds 100.

It seems this thread rubbed you the wrong way, and I can see why, but like water on fish, just let it roll off.

We will always have to explain ourselves when other cultures do what the "world" deems immoral or normal or whatever when we enter that venue.

I'm from Oregon with the black population at only 4. 5, I drive the city bus, decent income, homeowner, but it's like driving for "Miss Daisy " everyday, with the comments and ridicule. You.

I went to Sousa for the first time in 2009 for 3 weeks. I wanted a closer place because the plane trip to Thailand was wearing me out. I had a blast, only visited the bars a couple of times, because a Motorbike taxi guy and I hooked up and I got to explore his hood with him, that's how I met my women, in his neighborhood.

My spanish has improved since then, so I have 3 women in 3 different cities, waiting for my call when I get there in 3 weeks I met on DominicanCupid.

But every comment on here I have heard in every country I've been too, who cares. I bet you get talked about in your own city don't you?

It's our world like everybody else's.

Go where you want, do what you want, be who you are.

Criticism often stems from insecurity anyway, don't play the game, make your own game. I do.

NoWrath[/QUOTE]Well said my friend, well said! How ironic is this, I'm a city bus driver, here.

In Portland, Or also, I've been to Pattaya, Thailand (walking street). I guess, ill be guity of fanning,

These racial flames, but ill be damned, if I'm going to take a opinion, from a non african american,

Anymore, than I will give opinions to white, or asians etc, They have no clue, on what its like being.

Black, and I don't have a clue, on what its like, being white, so please, save it, but I will take general.

Advice, that is color or gender nuetral, that will help me grow, Failure can be a success, if.

You learn from it, I've been black 44 years, and I'd be damned, if ill listen to some black advice.

Coming from non blacks, and also, I won't listen to a plumber, on how to a fly a plane.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1144430]LMAO. Frannie you have braids? Please don't come unbraided. You don't have a huge rope chain with pimp medallion also? LMAO. About now this forum could use some humor.........[/QUOTE]LMAO, you may be right Gogo. Isn't this the same guy that likes cheap pussy and mingering with the low life sleeze in Boca? LOL, just messing with you Frannie. Now if Frannie says he has one of them over sized NY basball caps he wears to the side we know the deal.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1144430]LMAO. Frannie you have braids? Please don't come unbraided. You don't have a huge rope chain with pimp medallion also? LMAO. About now this forum could use some humor.

I don't think you are a racist, just very educated and opinonated. But you have to be smart enough not to wade into racial topics unless you want to be questioned. [/QUOTE]No I don't mind being questioned at all. Anyway my household consists of me. 1 black woman. 1 Mexican woman. 1 black child, a puppy. 2 cats (1 black).1 rabbit (white) , and 3 fish (gold). More than 50% of my coworkers are African American, (but as far as I know, none of them are mongers).

I just asked a question about why there are a lot of African American mongers in Sosua.

I explained how I first got involved in mongering and how I eventually reached a stage in life where I paid for sex in spite of social stigma against same, and I mentioned confidentiality issues.

I wondered if paying for sex was more acceptable among African Americans, since those I have met in Sosua were often traveling in pair or in groups, which would mean that there were people in their home communities who knew about their mongering. I wondered if some African Americans might have gotten into mongering via military service. This is often the case with Caucasians, some of whom of my age like to reminisce about the girls in Vietnam. (Also note that the whole tourist sex industry in Thailand developed because of the Vietnam War.)

Answers I have got include:

1. There are not many African American mongers in Sosua.

2. African American communities profoundly disparage mongering.

3. A Ph. D can tell family and friends that he mongers, but this does not affect him professionally. (Interesting to me, because if anyone in my job knew about my mongering, my position with the agency would probably be untenable.)

4. Military experience is not usually a precursor to mongering.

5. African American mongers travel to Sosua from all over the Eastern US.

5. Caucasian mongers don't know about Sosua.

No one has offered any explanation as to WHY there are a lot of African American mongers in Sosua, many of them younger. How do they find out about Sosua? What enables them to overcome the taboo against prostitution within the AA community? What about the risks of exposure for people who are in professions that would frown on mongering activity?

Not that it is any big deal, but it makes for an interesting discussion.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1144611]No I don't mind being questioned at all. Anyway my household consists of me. 1 black woman. 1 Mexican woman. 1 black child, a puppy. 2 cats (1 black).1 rabbit (white) , and 3 fish (gold). More than 50% of my coworkers are African American, (but as far as I know, none of them are mongers).

I just asked a question about why there are a lot of African American mongers in Sosua.

I explained how I first got involved in mongering and how I eventually reached a stage in life where I paid for sex in spite of social stigma against same, and I mentioned confidentiality issues.

I wondered if paying for sex was more acceptable among African Americans, since those I have met in Sosua were often traveling in pair or in groups, which would mean that there were people in their home communities who knew about their mongering. I wondered if some African Americans might have gotten into mongering via military service. This is often the case with Caucasians, some of whom of my age like to reminisce about the girls in Vietnam. (Also note that the whole tourist sex industry in Thailand developed because of the Vietnam War.)

Answers I have got include:

1. There are not many African American mongers in Sosua.

2. African American communities profoundly disparage mongering.

3. A Ph. D can tell family and friends that he mongers, but this does not affect him professionally. (Interesting to me, because if anyone in my job knew about my mongering, my position with the agency would probably be untenable.)

4. Military experience is not usually a precursor to mongering.

5. African American mongers travel to Sosua from all over the Eastern US.

5. Caucasian mongers don't know about Sosua.

No one has offered any explanation as to WHY there are a lot of African American mongers in Sosua, many of them younger. How do they find out about Sosua? What enables them to overcome the taboo against prostitution within the AA community? What about the risks of exposure for people who are in professions that would frown on mongering activity?

Not that it is any big deal, but it makes for an interesting discussion.[/QUOTE]As long as it is an interesting discussion I can deal with it and assist your curiosity, but on a racial confrontation level I don't care to indulge (its negative energy). One thing I can agree with you on is my personal military experience started my mongering experience. After being at sea for three months then hitting Olongopo Philippines with saved up cash, buying pussy was on the agenda. Basically it was the same with every port. But there was a difference. Most women would fuck us for free to lock into marrying a military man. But others understood it was money until then next ship came in.

An older player once told me"you arent a real man until you learn how to buy pussy". It took years to understand this. Sure to some people working a job and paying bills and being responsible is what a real man is about. But dealing with a woman on the most primative level for something you want, and negotiating a fair settlement for your sexual gratifacation is man basics 101. Some so called men "take it", some smooth talk to get it, but it takes a real man to negotiate her"worth" for you sexually.

One of my boys that I work with decided to try and shine at a company picnic. He also happened to be AA and 80% of the people at the picnic were also. He said publicly that" I go to the Dominican Republic to buy poor pussy" which pissed me off. Well before I could catch myself I said" You haven't fucked your wife in six months, maybe you need that trip". Needless to say, both of our secrets were out and his wife is pissed at both of us. But thats cool because none of the "sistas" don't like my Thai girlfriend anyway. My point is that the stigma in the black community about foreign women, I don't give a fuck about.

Being raised in DC with a strong family background, interracial dating was not acceptable. And being a true Mommas boy I fed into this taboo for the first 35 years of my life. But now I'm to old (40ish) to give a fuck. Its about what I want to be happy. And to me being happy is traveling to a foreign country, enjoying their customs, drinking their liquor and along the way getting my dick wet.

As an African Amererican I fine the DR women to be very attractive. They are mixed with many ehnic groups and are incredible beautiful. Many white guys are not into dark women.

It is my experience that white Americans are not comfortable when they are in the minority. When blacks move in prodominantly white neigborhoods in the US they move. Of course this is a generalization. For us brothers DR women are a God send. They have great attitudes and will screw your brains out. Our home girls can be very hard to get along with. So the DR women provide everything we want and for a great price. It is also a matter of taste. Whites guys often preferr white women. The DR is not the place for them. No big deal! DR women seem to like African american men. They know we think they are beautiful and we have money. A great combination! The women experience with gringos is different I think. I think as a black man I relate better to DR women. (my thoughts) I have had conservations with DR women on the subject. It is much easier for me to pull off the GF thing with a DR chica then a gringo. DR chicas think that a relationship with Black American can happen not so much with a gringo. Just my insight from many years of watching.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1144461]That is an interesting observation that I don't see many Caucasian A mericans in the DR. I would be curious as to why that is. Given that on any given trip you may see a lot of Black men around Sosua doesn't neccessarily mean that a lot of Black men go. It could be a sampling Issue or merely a popular weekend like superbowl that attracted a large number that time). I would like to hear from any members that spend long periods of time their at a given time or even have lived there. It could just be that a few Black men are going over and over again (I met a Black guy that goes back every other month).[/QUOTE]

Tiger Woods, Lamar Odom, Seal, Kobe Bryant, what color women do these guys like? I think you are way over generalizing. Plenty of Dominican chicas have relationships with guys from Italy, Spain, Canada and guys from other countries who are white. It is matter of personal taste. My father and I had vastly different tastes in women.

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1144640]As an African Amererican I fine the DR women to be very attractive. They are mixed with many ehnic groups and are incredible beautiful. Many white guys are not into dark women.

It is my experience that white Americans are not comfortable when they are in the minority. When blacks move in prodominantly white neigborhoods in the US they move. Of course this is a generalization. For us brothers DR women are a God send. They have great attitudes and will screw your brains out. Our home girls can be very hard to get along with. So the DR women provide everything we want and for a great price. It is also a matter of taste. Whites guys often preferr white women. The DR is not the place for them. No big deal! DR women seem to like African american men. They know we think they are beautiful and we have money. A great combination! The women experience with gringos is different I think. I think as a black man I relate better to DR women. (my thoughts) I have had conservations with DR women on the subject. It is much easier for me to pull off the GF thing with a DR chica then a gringo. DR chicas think that a relationship with Black American can happen not so much with a gringo. Just my insight from many years of watching. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1144640]As an African Amererican I fine the DR women to be very attractive. They are mixed with many ehnic groups and are incredible beautiful. Many white guys are not into dark women.

It is my experience that white Americans are not comfortable when they are in the minority. When blacks move in prodominantly white neigborhoods in the US they move. Of course this is a generalization. For us brothers DR women are a God send. They have great attitudes and will screw your brains out. Our home girls can be very hard to get along with. So the DR women provide everything we want and for a great price. It is also a matter of taste. Whites guys often preferr white women. The DR is not the place for them. No big deal! DR women seem to like African american men. They know we think they are beautiful and we have money. A great combination! The women experience with gringos is different I think. I think as a black man I relate better to DR women. (my thoughts) I have had conservations with DR women on the subject. It is much easier for me to pull off the GF thing with a DR chica then a gringo. DR chicas think that a relationship with Black American can happen not so much with a gringo. Just my insight from many years of watching. [/QUOTE]I live here and am lily white. The people here do not see things as 'black and white', it's the thickness of the wallet. I love this country. It's color blind.

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1144640]As an African Amererican I fine the DR women to be very attractive. They are mixed with many ehnic groups and are incredible beautiful. Many white guys are not into dark women.

It is my experience that white Americans are not comfortable when they are in the minority. When blacks move in prodominantly white neigborhoods in the US they move. Of course this is a generalization. For us brothers DR women are a God send. They have great attitudes and will screw your brains out. Our home girls can be very hard to get along with. So the DR women provide everything we want and for a great price. It is also a matter of taste. Whites guys often preferr white women. The DR is not the place for them. No big deal! DR women seem to like African american men. They know we think they are beautiful and we have money. A great combination! The women experience with gringos is different I think. I think as a black man I relate better to DR women. (my thoughts) I have had conservations with DR women on the subject. It is much easier for me to pull off the GF thing with a DR chica then a gringo. DR chicas think that a relationship with Black American can happen not so much with a gringo. Just my insight from many years of watching. [/QUOTE]Dominican women care about money and not about color, simple as it is.

[quote=frannie;1144611]no one has offered any explanation as to why there are a lot of african american mongers in sosua, many of them younger. how do they find out about sosua? what enables them to overcome the taboo against prostitution within the aa community? what about the risks of exposure for people who are in professions that would frown on mongering activity?[/quote]as sovereign said there aren't a lot (relative because your "a lot" may be 10 and mine 100) of black americans in sosua. but the ones that you see are younger because the older people are probably tied down with a wife and family so they do not have the resources and are not accustomed to traveling, especially internationally. as far as a taboo against prostitution, that exceeds racial lines. i think it's more of a cross gender taboo and has nothing to do with race. men, no matter what race, do it, have always done it, and are going to continue to do it. but they don't want women to think they do it or approve of it. just look at the politicians and preachers. they are always against it in public, yet always end getting caught up in some bullshit about it.

when i was 17 and in high school my dad knew that i was hanging with the pimps in our red light area. when i graduated from navy boot camp me, my dad, my uncle, and my cousin went down to tijuana. my dad told me if there was anything i liked it was on him. my dad has been to rio and thailand with me. my brother has been to sosua and thailand with me. my best friend and cousin have been to rio and sosua with me. these things can be freely discussed and are quite acceptable among all the male members in my family and peer group. but they would not dare be brought up with a female. as far as they are concerned we are just "hanging out" and not on binge sex trips with more hookers than you can shake a stick at.

from [url]http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/182859.pdf[/url], "while earlier studies estimated that 69% or more men had patronized prostitutes during their lives, recent methodologically sound research provides a very different picture. the national health and social life survey, conducted in 1992 using a nationally representative sample, found that only about 16% of men in the usa had ever visited a prostitute."

actually i would agree with the 69% (if not more) of the earlier studies.

from the same report, "though whites make up a majority of offenders in all three cities, minority offenders make up about 40% of offenders in san francisco and las vegas. ages of arrested clients ranged from 18 to 84 with a mean age of 38 and a median of 37."

this data would lead you to believe that there is no taboo solely on the male end of the spectrum. when males are alone or among other male friends let the games begin, but when males are mixed with females it better be taboo or else. think about a bachelor party. the code word "stripper" actually means what in guy language? hooker! but it has to be watered down to stripper because we can't let the female better halves know we will have easy access to a hole that does not belong to them. we have to pretend that we will only look at titties. the same as strip clubs these days. most of the girls at the clubs in my majority black city are available for fs for an extra $40.

as far as exposure for people who are professionals again it is the same thing. there is no problem if other guys know. shit they are doing the same thing. but you can't let the females in on it.

Respectfully speaking but your statement shows you are not qualified to comment on race relations in the Dominican Republic. The only person living in the DR, and is color blind, is you.

Have you not noticed the Dominicans hatred of Haitians? Or the hidden racism between light skinned Dominicans and dark skinned Dominicans. Charles Pooter lives there and has his eyes open and knows.

you raise some interesting questions frannie (maybe you are a sociologist after all lol) and i'll give my 2 cents. but first a few questions of my own. are there really a lot of aa mongers going to the dr? what does 'a lot' mean? on a typical night in sosua, what percentage of total mongers to aa's make up? i just don't think that there are. anyway.

yes, i can tell family and close friends about my mongering trips but that is still a relatively small group of folks (i'm sure my mom is curious as to why i've been to the dr 4 times in the last year, but she won't ask and i certainly won't tell lol). it would be professionally detrimental if my white female boss knew that i went, but the 3-4 male coworkers that i share the stories and pictures with get jealous. i'm judicious with the info, sharing it with people who really know me and thus won't confuse what i do with who i am (everyone that knows about my trips would still say that i am a good man with absolutely no hesitation). my female friends believe i will simply grow out of it and maybe they are right.

i don't think that the great majority of aa men know about mongering opportunities. i stumbled on sosua by luck after overhearing a conversation in a bar about the beautiful women in the dr that were available. before that i had been curious about mongering but lacked any real intel about how to go about it. still not knowing where in the dr to go, i merely googled 'dr and prostitution' and sosua popped up as a place 'infested' with hookers and my decision as to where to go was made for me. i drafted one of my friends into the inaugural trip and the rest is history. on our next trip in june, we have added two more newbies who after hearing our stories are eager to go. maybe that's the black and white difference, we tend to share our stories more with our peers and encourage those who can to join us, thus the number of aa's grows and you see so many groups of aa's. . word of mouth seems to be the best advertisement for the dr (that and the promise of all of the pu$$why that you can handle).

another reason that the dr tends to appeal to aa's has to do with the rampant problems that exist in the romantic relationships between black men and women (i admit that that's a pretty big generalization, but a lot of brothas would agree). dr women are socialized in a way (embracing traditional female roles) that many black women are not and thus dr women are very attractive for more than just their looks. my boys become intrigued as much from my stories about how chicas treat and relate to me as they are from the butt nekkid pics.

[quote=frannie; 1144611]i just asked a question about why there are a lot of african american mongers in sosua.

i explained how i first got involved in mongering and how i eventually reached a stage in life where i paid for sex in spite of social stigma against same, and i mentioned confidentiality issues.

i wondered if paying for sex was more acceptable among african americans, since those i have met in sosua were often traveling in pair or in groups, which would mean that there were people in their home communities who knew about their mongering. i wondered if some african americans might have gotten into mongering via military service. this is often the case with caucasians, some of whom of my age like to reminisce about the girls in vietnam. (also note that the whole tourist sex industry in thailand developed because of the vietnam war.)

answers i have got include:

1. there are not many african american mongers in sosua.

2. african american communities profoundly disparage mongering.

3. a ph. d can tell family and friends that he mongers, but this does not affect him professionally. (interesting to me, because if anyone in my job knew about my mongering, my position with the agency would probably be untenable.)

4. military experience is not usually a precursor to mongering.

5. african american mongers travel to sosua from all over the eastern us.

5. caucasian mongers don't know about sosua.

no one has offered any explanation as to why there are a lot of african american mongers in sosua, many of them younger. how do they find out about sosua? what enables them to overcome the taboo against prostitution within the aa community? what about the risks of exposure for people who are in professions that would frown on mongering activity?

not that it is any big deal, but it makes for an interesting discussion. [/quote]

I have a couple of friends heading to Sosua for Easter. They are not members here so thought I would do the due dilligence. Its been awhile since I was there and I here things have chcnged due to the new female major.

Whats the girl scene like now? Where are the go to spots? The Do's and don't's? The going price?

Thye are trying to lock down accomodations and have a few choices. Whats Rocks trade winds condos like?

Thanks in advance!

Ny last comment was in response to RR comment that Dominicans are color blind.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1144638]One of my boys that I work with decided to try and shine at a company picnic. He also happened to be AA and 80% of the people at the picnic were also. He said publicly that" I go to the Dominican Republic to buy poor pussy" which pissed me off. Well before I could catch myself I said" You haven't fucked your wife in six months, maybe you need that trip". Needless to say, both of our secrets were out and his wife is pissed at both of us...[/QUOTE]That is exactly the reason why I have never told any of my male friends ANYTHING about mongering. You cannot be sure that they won't tell their wives, or some woman they are trying to impress.

If anyone ever asks me about prostitution in the DR, I will just say that prostitution is legal in almost every country other than the USA and that it is legal in the country where I was raised in Europe. I may also say that there are so many Dominican women looking for boyfriends or husbands that prostitution would be pointless for anyone who speaks Spanish.

Then I would leave it at that, because people who don't know anything about mongering don't know anything about mongering, and it is best to keep it that way and not to fuel their imaginations. Clearly your friend who had not had sex with his wife for 6 months felt jealous and insecure because he imagined you having sex with all kinds of babes.

What ever happened to The Palace in Sosua? I know John had it up for sale in 2003 (last time I was there). Did someone buy it? Does it still exist? I'm just curious about what happened there. Anyone know?

[QUOTE=Expat13; 1144775]I have a couple of friends heading to Sosua for Easter. They are not members here so thought I would do the due dilligence. Its been awhile since I was there and I here things have chcnged due to the new female major.

Whats the girl scene like now? Where are the go to spots? The Do's and don't's? The going price?

Thye are trying to lock down accomodations and have a few choices. Whats Rocks trade winds condos like?

Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]I haven't been there in years, but I can say that Rock's places are OK. I had no problems at all staying there. YMMV. I'm used to staying in places that are fine by general standards but probably not up to middle class American vacation standards.

What are the top three massage parlors in sousa? Please consider price, looks of the girls and extras offered.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1144921]What ever happened to The Palace in Sosua? I know John had it up for sale in 2003 (last time I was there). Did someone buy it? Does it still exist? I'm just curious about what happened there. Anyone know?[/QUOTE]I last heard was that John went into real estate. If you do not know John did not have all the licenses to run the hotel so he was paying police under the table. He was not even paying taxes. Santo Domingo found out and the evidence they had for all the activity at his place was on sites like this. He tried to sell the Palace for a million but no buyers. He then tried to move away from it being a hotel and what appeared to be renting apartments (I do not know all the details of this.). He failed. I do not know if he ever sold the place. Last I heard he was in Florida. I was talking to someone several months ago, who knew him. If you are interested in more details just pm me and I'll find out from some people I know, since I have been going to DR for many years now and know some of the regulars. Back in the days it was a hell of a place!

[QUOTE=Boriman;1144946]I last heard was that John went into real estate. If you do not know John did not have all the licenses to run the hotel so he was paying police under the table. He was not even paying taxes. Santo Domingo found out and the evidence they had for all the activity at his place was on sites like this. He tried to sell the Palace for a million but no buyers. He then tried to move away from it being a hotel and what appeared to be renting apartments (I do not know all the details of this.). He failed. I do not know if he ever sold the place. Last I heard he was in Florida. I was talking to someone several months ago, who knew him. If you are interested in more details just pm me and I'll find out from some people I know, since I have been going to DR for many years now and know some of the regulars. Back in the days it was a hell of a place![/QUOTE]Thanks. PM sent.

[QUOTE=Expat13; 1144775]I have a couple of friends heading to Sosua for Easter. They are not members here so thought I would do the due dilligence. Its been awhile since I was there and I here things have chcnged due to the new female major.

Whats the girl scene like now? Where are the go to spots? The Do's and don't's? The going price?

Thye are trying to lock down accomodations and have a few choices. Whats Rocks trade winds condos like?

Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]From the comments I've read over the years around this time (just do a thread search for April 2008, 2009, 2010) your friends couldn't have picked a more worst time to visit, especially post-crackdown. Easter is to be avoided everywhere in Latin / South America (Roman Catholic majority).

I believe Helpmann (spelling?) has a post/link on this?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1144730]Respectfully speaking but your statement shows you are not qualified to comment on race relations in the Dominican Republic. The only person living in the DR, and is color blind, is you.

Have you not noticed the Dominicans hatred of Haitians? Or the hidden racism between light skinned Dominicans and dark skinned Dominicans. Charles Pooter lives there and has his eyes open and knows. [/QUOTE]With all due respect I was referring to their treatment of the gringo. You my friend should apologize. I am well aware of the racism that exists among the natives. To assume and post that I am not qualified shows how unqualified you are to judge my qualifications. Simply said, I have forgotten more about the D. R than you will ever know.

[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob;1145072]With all due respect I was referring to their treatment of the gringo. You my friend should apologize. I am well aware of the racism that exists among the natives. To assume and post that I am not qualified shows how unqualified you are to judge my qualifications. Simply said, I have forgotten more about the D. R than you will ever know.[/QUOTE]I was talking about Ricky Rapido's comment, are you him under another handle.

My reply was to your comment that the Dominican people are "color blind". I didn't understand this statement especially when you now say that racism exists among the natives. But you are correct though that when dealing with gringos the main color they see is green. I should have understood that you were talking about gringos and Dominicans and these two groups interacting were "color blind". Also being you live there I'm glad that you have forgotten more about the DR than I will ever remember.

With all this said, my total lack of understanding exactly what you were saying deserves a "my bad" from me to you.

Respectfully yours Ricky Rapido, Bobbsthrobbinknob or any other handle you have on ISG.

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1144929]What are the top three massage parlors in sousa? Please consider price, looks of the girls and extras offered.[/QUOTE]Varies, just walk around and they will invite you in. Massage places open and close erratically.

Mostly the girls in massage parlors are not stunners. Often they are a bit older (I. E. Over 25) , but you never know your luck.

Extras may include air-conditioning or an electric fan, lampshade (unusual) , cold towels, a hook or nail to hang your clothes on. Prices start at 300 pesos for half an hour.

La Passion is probably the best, except that really it is a brothel and whatever massage you get is perfunctory. The girls are not diploma trained masagistas. At Belki's salon, you can get a haircut, pedicure, or any kind of sex. There is, or was, another massage place close to Casa Marina with some Haitian girls. Again you can get manicure, pedicure, haircut, massage, sex, but if you want sex, better to make a date to see the girl later.

Sometimes girls will approach you in the street asking "masaje?". This usually means sex."Masaje completo" (complete massage) also means the same as sex.

With the exception of La Passion there is no set menu as to what is on offer or not on offer. It is just a question of what you negotiate with the girl.

I had legitimate massages for more than two two years from a sweet girl who had just turned 18 when I met her. She was a virgin and a Christian. She was keeping her virginity for her wedding day. Eventually she did get married, but her husband was not satisfying her, and a few months later I had full sex with her a couple of times and she was one of the best I have ever had.

All this goes to prove nothing, except that you can never know what to expect. Which is what is so great about Sosua.

Gogo you are right. Most gringo have no clue how or why we feel. Few are open enough to listen. It is up to us to say when we will forget the years of degragation. We carry few grudges but reserve the right not to forget.

[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob;1145072]With all due respect I was referring to their treatment of the gringo. You my friend should apologize. I am well aware of the racism that exists among the natives. To assume and post that I am not qualified shows how unqualified you are to judge my qualifications. Simply said, I have forgotten more about the D. R than you will ever know.[/QUOTE]

I think you guys may be underestimating how observant people around you are, and these days with the internet and all that.

Do you really think it is not obvious what you (we) are up to travelling regularly to DR, Thailand (or Brazil, Colombia). I mean, how much sightseeing can you do in the same place. LOL.

Though I'm single, and have always been while doing this, I know everyone in the office, friends and family probably have a good guess about my travels! Who cares, you only live once. !

Can someone recommend a good villa / house rental in or very near Sosua? I have tried a few different websites and I'm not having much success.

Thanks!

Also, does anybody know how to get back your previous contributions. I had to re-register and I lost my senior status. That sucks!

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1145018]Thanks. PM sent.[/QUOTE]John of the palace was a very likeable guy. He had very few enemies and I met him on my maiden voyage. I stayed at the Palace several times but he was letting it get run down. The workers and the on site chicas were getting careless. I had made a complaint to him about all this. I did get to know his wife, who was a fine woman but partial to the chicas when something happened between them and the mongers. Perhaps he should have taken care of his business matters better (although I do not know all the details) but he was a great human being. It was comical when a chica was in a monger'rs room yelling and screaming, trying to tear up the place. When John was called he was so calm as if he has seen it all before. After all the drama was over he would just simply shrug it all off and say that the chica would probably forget about the incident the next day. Those were the days. Thanks Rick!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1145085]I was talking about Ricky Rapido's comment, are you him under another handle.

My reply was to your comment that the Dominican people are "color blind". I didn't understand this statement especially when you now say that racism exists among the natives. But you are correct though that when dealing with gringos the main color they see is green. I should have understood that you were talking about gringos and Dominicans and these two groups interacting were "color blind". Also being you live there I'm glad that you have forgotten more about the DR than I will ever remember.

With all this said, my total lack of understanding exactly what you were saying deserves a "my bad" from me to you.

Respectfully yours Ricky Rapido, Bobbsthrobbinknob or any other handle you have on ISG. [/QUOTE]Yes, there is discrimination towards Haitians here in the DR. But, I wouldn't call it racial in the sense of skin color. Rather, it is a cultural thing. Haitians are inferior culturally to Dominicans. Enmity goes back to early times when the country was run from by a Haitian french speaking president. Then the spanish people revolted and formed their own country. Today Haitians are another class of people here in the DR. They take the lowest paying jobs, are not allowed citizenship, and even their children who are born here are not citizens. What I find ironic is that many Dominicans are just as dark in color as the Haitians. Americans think of racial discrimination along color lines. That is the difference.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1145219]Can someone recommend a good villa / house rental in or very near Sosua? ks![/QUOTE]I stayed at Hispaniola Villa (you should be able to google it) and loved it. Ita a straight shot to Classicos, on the other side of the major street running thru Sosua. You may want to rent a car (it's a 8 minute walk to the front gate of the gated community, and the community itself is rather hilly, making for really tired legs and a grumpy chic if you have to walk). Each villa has it's own pool, wifi, daily maid service, free water, and is reasonably priced (my buddy and I paid about $70 each a night for a 3 bedroom. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1145384]I stayed at Hispaniola Villa (you should be able to google it) and loved it. Ita a straight shot to Classicos, on the other side of the major street running thru Sosua. You may want to rent a car (it's a 8 minute walk to the front gate of the gated community, and the community itself is rather hilly, making for really tired legs and a grumpy chic if you have to walk). Each villa has it's own pool, wifi, daily maid service, free water, and is reasonably priced (my buddy and I paid about $70 each a night for a 3 bedroom. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I've rented a villa in Hispaniola also, the girls loved it and so did I. My problem was that the guys I was staying with liked to party well into the night outside by the pool, we were asked to leave, more like told to leave by shotgun toting security. We then rented another villa somewhere else, I forget the name of the place but we were thrown out of there too for the same reason. Lesson to be learned, if you are going to party until 3 a. M. Do it inside with the windows and doors closed or don't rent a villa in an upscale neighborhood. And lesson for me is that I need new wingmen, hahaha.

Well fellas Sabor is feet dry in Sosua. I got in SDQ around 1PM and got my rental which took an hour but as soon as I got the keys I was off to Sosua. Thanks to my brother from another mother Mr. G the directions he PM me were right on point. As I took the Samana Hwy there were a few people trying to thumb their way in my direction. I saw a nice twenty something with a cute bunda and my monger sense went off! Picked her up and played the dumb turist visiting and "old amigo" in Rio San Juan. She said not a problem and that was in her direction so off we went. I threw my mack and by the third toll booth she was ready. Went to some cabanas in Nagua and did the deed. She was very helpful! Dropped her off and gave her some "taxi" fare. Now, this part is not cool. It got dark and was pouring cats and dogs. That's cool if your in the house but not on the road in DR! Ok, so I manage to not kill any of the local wildlife including motoconchos on the way. Got in late and threw my bags down and went to get something to eat at PJs. As I'm walking around 10PM I bump into an old flame Mr. G introduced me to from Four Roses. We ate and she did a TLN with me. More to follow.

[QUOTE=Sabor;1145485]Well fellas Sabor is feet dry in Sosua. I got in SDQ around 1PM and got my rental which took an hour but as soon as I got the keys I was off to Sosua. Thanks to my brother from another mother Mr. G the directions he PM me were right on point. As I took the Samana Hwy there were a few people trying to thumb their way in my direction. I saw a nice twenty something with a cute bunda and my monger sense went off! Picked her up and played the dumb turist visiting and "old amigo" in Rio San Juan. She said not a problem and that was in her direction so off we went. I threw my mack and by the third toll booth she was ready. Went to some cabanas in Nagua and did the deed. She was very helpful! Dropped her off and gave her some "taxi" fare. Now, this part is not cool. It got dark and was pouring cats and dogs. That's cool if your in the house but not on the road in DR! Ok, so I manage to not kill any of the local wildlife including motoconchos on the way. Got in late and threw my bags down and went to get something to eat at PJs. As I'm walking around 10PM I bump into an old flame Mr. G introduced me to from Four Roses. We ate and she did a TLN with me. More to follow.[/QUOTE]Yo my ex from Puerto plata, you know the one, is supposedly in Sosua now. Its open season and that pussy is the best, feel free to help yourself. We can share notes on on our next trip. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1145455]I've rented a villa in Hispaniola also, the girls loved it and so did I. My problem was that the guys I was staying with liked to party well into the night outside by the pool, we were asked to leave, more like told to leave by shotgun toting security. We then rented another villa somewhere else, I forget the name of the place but we were thrown out of there too for the same reason. Lesson to be learned, if you are going to party until 3 a. M. Do it inside with the windows and doors closed or don't rent a villa in an upscale neighborhood. And lesson for me is that I need new wingmen, hahaha.[/QUOTE]Hey Manizales911 next time just get a villa at Casa Linda. Just tell them that you want an secluded private villa where there won't be a problem if you party well into the night. Had no problems at all the couple times I stayed there.

[QUOTE=Sabor;1145485]Well fellas Sabor is feet dry in Sosua. I got in SDQ around 1PM and got my rental which took an hour but as soon as I got the keys I was off to Sosua. Thanks to my brother from another mother Mr. G the directions he PM me were right on point. As I took the Samana Hwy there were a few people trying to thumb their way in my direction. I saw a nice twenty something with a cute bunda and my monger sense went off! Picked her up and played the dumb turist visiting and "old amigo" in Rio San Juan. She said not a problem and that was in her direction so off we went. I threw my mack and by the third toll booth she was ready. Went to some cabanas in Nagua and did the deed. She was very helpful! Dropped her off and gave her some "taxi" fare. Now, this part is not cool. It got dark and was pouring cats and dogs. That's cool if your in the house but not on the road in DR! Ok, so I manage to not kill any of the local wildlife including motoconchos on the way. Got in late and threw my bags down and went to get something to eat at PJs. As I'm walking around 10PM I bump into an old flame Mr. G introduced me to from Four Roses. We ate and she did a TLN with me. More to follow.[/QUOTE]Can you post the direction on how to get from Santo Domingo To Sosua. Thanks

[QUOTE=Sabor;1145485]Well fellas Sabor is feet dry in Sosua. I got in SDQ around 1PM and got my rental which took an hour but as soon as I got the keys I was off to Sosua. Thanks to my brother from another mother Mr. G the directions he PM me were right on point. As I took the Samana Hwy there were a few people trying to thumb their way in my direction. I saw a nice twenty something with a cute bunda and my monger sense went off! Picked her up and played the dumb turist visiting and "old amigo" in Rio San Juan. She said not a problem and that was in her direction so off we went. I threw my mack and by the third toll booth she was ready. Went to some cabanas in Nagua and did the deed. She was very helpful! Dropped her off and gave her some "taxi" fare. Now, this part is not cool. It got dark and was pouring cats and dogs. That's cool if your in the house but not on the road in DR! Ok, so I manage to not kill any of the local wildlife including motoconchos on the way. Got in late and threw my bags down and went to get something to eat at PJs. As I'm walking around 10PM I bump into an old flame Mr. G introduced me to from Four Roses. We ate and she did a TLN with me. More to follow.[/QUOTE]Nice post. I usually see chicas on the side of the road, looking for a ride, but never stopped. Nice to see you had a good time with one. Driving in a heavy rain in DR is not fun.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1145564]Nice post. I usually see chicas on the side of the road, looking for a ride, but never stopped. Nice to see you had a good time with one. Driving in a heavy rain in DR is not fun.[/QUOTE]This guy is as authentic as you are. His posts hurt me because I should be there with one of my top wingmen. Its 4am as I wait my time for my next visit. But I know he is terrorizing pussy, and having a ball.

Riki Rapido wrote: Haitians are inferior culturally to Dominicans.


Haitians are NOT culturally inferior to Dominicans. Perhaps you could have phrased it "Haitians living in the DR are mostly poor and uneducated". I do hope that is what you meant.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1145544]Hey Manizales911 next time just get a villa at Casa Linda. Just tell them that you want an secluded private villa where there won't be a problem if you party well into the night. Had no problems at all the couple times I stayed there.[/QUOTE]Thanks Coolie I will try them on my next trip.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist; 1145667]Riki Rapido wrote: Haitians are inferior culturally to Dominicans.

Haitians are NOT culturally inferior to Dominicans. Perhaps you could have phrased it "Haitians living in the DR are mostly poor and uneducated". I do hope that is what you meant. [/QUOTE]Well said, CL. I think RR was just being sloppy with his use of English. Perhaps it is not his first language in which case we can forgive him.

Looking at what defines culture across the centuries and across the world I can think of four main drivers:

- History.

- Language.

- Religion.

- Art.

Haïti has a short but extraordinarily influential history, inspiring liberation movements across the world, especially in Asia and Africa, not to mention its decisive role in the European power struggles of the 18th century and Napoleonic era. So long as France enjoyed the wealth pouring in from one small island it was top dog in Europe economically and military. Having lost Haïti, it was never no. 1 nation again.

The Dominican Republic, on the other hand, has no history to speak of, other than "local" history. Just a continuous series of meaningless brawls between gangster-like leaders from which nothing has ever evolved.

Haïti has its own language and a rich literary tradition. The DR does not, just using debased Spanish with minimal literary tradition.

Haïti has its own religion which is extremely rich and complex. DR does not, preferring a perfunctory and imported Catholicism, braindead "happyclapping" or a watered down version of vodou called santeria which most Dominicans are ashamed of, and many deny exists.

Haïtian art is famous all over the world and was particularly influential on many giants of European art of the C20 like Picasso. The best Dominican artists would struggle to get their work represented even in a small town art gallery in any other country.

Funnily enough, you will see Haitian paintings hanging on the walls of the most racist Dominican individuals and institutions so even Dominicans recognize there is no contest in that area.

Now if RR had chosen to say that the DR is a tolerable country to live in (after all, I chose to move here from the UK) whereas Haïti is such a desperate shithole that only a popular revolution can now change it, he would get no argument from me. But that is a whole different issue from "culture".

[QUOTE=Coole Mr;1145552]Can you post the direction on how to get from Santo Domingo To Sosua. Thanks[/QUOTE]I posted some images from my GPS software of the road from SDQ to Puerto Plata. These might be of help visualizing where you are. Trip took me about 3. 5 hours depending on traffic. Make sure you have money for the toll booths.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2229-Santo-Domingo&p=1103453&viewfull=1#post1103453[/url]

The saga continues. I have confirmation that one of our girls Mr. Gogo and I know is prego! This time I took it a little slow since I've been chillin with a novia. Shit! Can't lie. Ok so she works during the day which leaves me all by my lonesome so I bumped into Vicky and yeah! I tore it up. Took a nap and then took the novia to eat. After I trew some food down her throat I told her I'd pick her up at 11PM. On the way back to NG I bump into these 38DDD and she starts mouthing off on how I always ingnore her and she's always looking at me yadda yadda so I told her I never seen you before but let's fix that. Off to the room. Nice bod and all natural twins. I should've taken a pic but I was kinda pressed for time so I balled her for 45 mins. Ok bye, see ya. Picked up novia and friend and went to Cabarette. There's a club on the beach called Bambu and really had a crowd. The strippers were fine as hell too and putas all over the place. Stayed till 2AM and told novia time to hit the sack! I'll be leaving in the AM for my drive to SDQ.

[QUOTE=Sabor;1145803]The saga continues. I have confirmation that one of our girls Mr. Gogo and I know is prego! This time I took it a little slow since I've been chillin with a novia. Shit! Can't lie. Ok so she works during the day which leaves me all by my lonesome so I bumped into Vicky and yeah! I tore it up. Took a nap and then took the novia to eat. After I trew some food down her throat I told her I'd pick her up at 11PM. On the way back to NG I bump into these 38DDD and she starts mouthing off on how I always ingnore her and she's always looking at me yadda yadda so I told her I never seen you before but let's fix that. Off to the room. Nice bod and all natural twins. I should've taken a pic but I was kinda pressed for time so I balled her for 45 mins. Ok bye, see ya. Picked up novia and friend and went to Cabarette. There's a club on the beach called Bambu and really had a crowd. The strippers were fine as hell too and putas all over the place. Stayed till 2AM and told novia time to hit the sack! I'll be leaving in the AM for my drive to SDQ.[/QUOTE]Nice reports but you making it tough for us guys stuck stateside. I couldn't quite place your handle at first but when I checked some of your prior posts the handle rang a bell. You posted up some really nice pics awhile back, culinary arts was one of my favorites. Now get that camera in action again! LOL.

Enjoy the time remaining of your trip.

In two weeks I will be headed back to Sosua. Anyone going to be there may 2nd thru the 6th? I'm going during the week because that is all my schedule will allow me. I will be staying at D' Piero again. I think its a nice place and a good bargin for the money. Hopefully the airline doesn't loose my bag this time. I plan on taking it easy this time, but last time I was there just this past March I went to a concert which was pretty cool. Anyway, just checking to see who will all be in town while I'm there.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1145734]Well said, CL. I think RR was just being sloppy with his use of English. Perhaps it is not his first language in which case we can forgive him.

Looking at what defines culture across the centuries and across the world I can think of four main drivers:

- History.

- Language.

- Religion.

- Art.

Haïti has a short but extraordinarily influential history, inspiring liberation movements across the world, especially in Asia and Africa, not to mention its decisive role in the European power struggles of the 18th century and Napoleonic era. So long as France enjoyed the wealth pouring in from one small island it was top dog in Europe economically and military. Having lost Haïti, it was never no. 1 nation again.

The Dominican Republic, on the other hand, has no history to speak of, other than "local" history. Just a continuous series of meaningless brawls between gangster-like leaders from which nothing has ever evolved.

Haïti has its own language and a rich literary tradition. The DR does not, just using debased Spanish with minimal literary tradition.

Haïti has its own religion which is extremely rich and complex. DR does not, preferring a perfunctory and imported Catholicism, braindead "happyclapping" or a watered down version of vodou called santeria which most Dominicans are ashamed of, and many deny exists.

Haïtian art is famous all over the world and was particularly influential on many giants of European art of the C20 like Picasso. The best Dominican artists would struggle to get their work represented even in a small town art gallery in any other country.

Funnily enough, you will see Haitian paintings hanging on the walls of the most racist Dominican individuals and institutions so even Dominicans recognize there is no contest in that area.

Now if RR had chosen to say that the DR is a tolerable country to live in (after all, I chose to move here from the UK) whereas Haïti is such a desperate shithole that only a popular revolution can now change it, he would get no argument from me. But that is a whole different issue from "culture". [/QUOTE]I read Dominican Today online the other day, an article about arrests and deportation of Haitians from some barrio in Santiago. Reading the comments after the article, gives a disturbing view of how some Dominicans think about Haitians, excerpt from the article and one of the comments; [url]http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/poverty/2011/4/13/39249/After-barrios-threats-Dominican-agents-arrest-hundreds-of-Haitians[/url]

"Santiago- Immigration Agency inspectors helped by Army soldiers detained and later repatriated 254 undocumented Haitians to their country during raids in several south Santiago barrios today, just one week after inhabitants had threatened to expel the foreigners living illegally in their communities."

One of the comments: "Written by: CarmenReyes, From: Dominican Republic, Santiago: Get rid of these creatures and save our country"

There are beautiful beaches in parts of Haiti, labor is inexpensive in Haiti, food costs are probably high, seems to me that it would be possibly to build all inclusive or beach front resorts in Haiti, that could at least get some of the Tourism dollar that goes to other countries like Jamaica or Dom Rep.

I have been many places in the DR and I can say honestly that Sosua is my Favorite. When I go anywhere else I feel lost like I'm alone in another country but when I'm in sosua I feel right at home.

I arrived Sunday the 10th of April and checked into Sosua by the sea resort. Substandard motel 6 quality rooms and incompetent staff ultimately had me seeking another location to sleep. I did use the safe and left most of my clothes there. I walked out my room at 3pm and the first thing I noticed was Sosua was as dead as a cemetery. Nobody was on the streets not even the motochonco guys. My first rule of business was to see if there were any women at new garden. At the desert shop on the corner next to the baseball field were about four girls lounging. No women at new garden so I doubled back and got one of the cute ones. New garden wants 70 American for a room. The website says different but I was more concerned with the chica. She showered and we started. She didn't want to do anything claiming her throat was sore, her vagina was sore. Figured I was a fool so I asked her to leave. She still wanted 2000 pesos. I did manage to get some oral from her and about 15 minutes of doggy style from her. I gave her 1000 pesos and she left. I have 2 photos of her I'll post under the name 'lazy girl'

I walked back to the ice cream spot but the chicas have dispersed. One of the motochonco guys drove me to la passions which had a very disappointing selection. Three girls and they seemed less likely to perform so I declined. One asked me how many chicas you need. I said 10 and all at once. Big laugh! The same motochonco guy told me he had a good chica. And he did! She was a stallion! Big ass and breast. Came in my room at new garden washed up and got to it. She did a reverse cowgirl that was amazing. I came in her mouth. She wanted an extra 500 pesos as propina. I declined. The extra pesos were what she had to give to motochonco guy for the score. She told me to tell him I gave her 1500 pesos. I'll post a picture of her under the name 'cow girl'. Afterwards I walked around looking for a phone which I never found. I bumped into my Haitian buddy from my original Sosua trip. He carried me to Cmp. The Lite skin chica I had from my previous trip was waiting on me. I promised to buy her way out and we'the spend two days together. Once I arrived I noticed another lite skin chica I wanted so I asked her to wait until she got off and to come to my hotel. 2500 pesos with no budge room. I accepted and we went to the room. She honestly wanted to hacer la amor more then me. She was all cowgirl and I was asking her about a possible phone. She was disturbed. I came on her belly as she requested. She gave me her number but I actually asked for her phone. Ahh well!

Now in order for my lite skin Cmp chica to reach me that night I would need a phone. She gave me hers and said wait for the call. I agreed. I used her phone and called Gucci girl from my previous trip. Gucci girl leaves in Sosua so I just dropped by. She reacted like I proposed to her. All smiles and hugs. Gave me her I'd and her cell phone because remember I didn't have one yet wink wink. Now I have two phones. We agreed to meet at New Garden in an hour. I walked up to El flow where all the women were. Darkness brings swarms and swarms of chicas. Hot ones! I ordered the chicken wings and French fries from Rumba bar and walked around asking for numbers. A few chicas grabbed me and refused to let go. Ahhh Sosua! 15 minutes later food was ready. 200 pesos and I proceeded to walk back new garden. Gucci girl arrived shortly afterwards. Got a salad and water and we headed to the room. Probably the best oral sex ever. She was extremely tight so sex was a little limited. I came 1500 pesos she left and I remained in the bed. 10:00pm I walked out my door and the same motochonco guy from earlier had another Stallion for me. No thanks. Got her number and proceeded back to calle.

Classicos wasn't open yet but the street was packed. I walked into Latino's but it was empty. I was being pursued by a few aggressive chicas. One threw ice at me for ignoring her. I sat down at the bar below classic and watched all the beautiful chicas arrived dressed to impress. I purchased a beer to please the waitress. Chicas blew kisses at me and shook my hand but I was all tapped out. The chica I sat beside was gorgeous or at least all the guys that seen her picture think so. She was from Puerto Plata and claimed she was looking for a husband. Then she said 1000 pesos for an hour and 1500 for todo la noches. I tried to work the gratis, estoy buscada para una esposa pero she wanted money. We left for new garden. She delivered the goods and left. 1000 pesos. I got her number. I passed out shortly afterwards. Remember the Cmp chica who gave me her phone? Well she called like 20 times but I was out cold. Woke up at 5am and noticed all the calls but its too late now. Walked up to classicos but everything was done. A motochonco guy took me to another spot. Saw a chica outside. Pretty decent so we rode into the sunset. When I arrived at new garden I didn't have change to pay the motochonco but a fellow monger was outside paid the 50 pesos. He also wanted my chica. He delivered a slew of Spanish lines and got her phone number before I could get her in the room. We did the deed. I took a few pictures of her which I'll label 'late night chica'. The service was todo la noches mostly because it was 5am. She was a great provider. Performed and went to sleep. Day one

Just booked my flight. I stayed at NG before, but I am considering Terra Linda this time around. I asked for some home villa / rental ideas, but nobody responded. Thanks Fellas!

Mr. Gogo,

If you happen to be around during those dates, I still have that drink or three ready for you.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1146102]There are beautiful beaches in parts of Haiti, labor is inexpensive in Haiti, food costs are probably high, seems to me that it would be possibly to build all inclusive or beach front resorts in Haiti, that could at least get some of the Tourism dollar that goes to other countries like Jamaica or Dom Rep.[/QUOTE]There is one at Labadie which has been successful and I believe I read recently that they are going to expand it or build a clone.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labadee[/url]

Better than nothing, but they would need a 100 of those to make any impact. The other problem is that visitors get a "Disneyland" impression of Haïti. In fact, the cruise line downplays the fact it is in Haïti at all, for fear of frightening the passengers.

A good place to restart the tourist business (it used to be massive) might be Jacmel in the South where cruises used to stop, but they would need a complete new harbor.

She gets a call and she says she is here with a gringo, the announcer says she gets calls from gringos, dumb ass doesn't know she is talking about him.

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1146233][url]http://braziltravelcenter.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/pay-for-play-in-the-dominican-republic/[/url]

This is a good live show on prostitution in the DR.

SS[/QUOTE]

He says" its crazy" over and over. What is crazy. Sex=natural. Poverty=larger than you or me. Economics=life.

No body is forced hurt or unwilling.

Fuck this guy, non Spanish speaking eeuu fuck he prob been o 2 countries naive doosh.

[QUOTE=Oh Ya Papi;1146256]She gets a call and she says she is here with a gringo, the announcer says she gets calls from gringos, dumb ass doesn't know she is talking about him.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1146233][url]http://braziltravelcenter.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/pay-for-play-in-the-dominican-republic/[/url]

This is a good live show on prostitution in the DR. [/QUOTE]Good? That was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. Who is this character and who turned them loose with a video camera? We did a better job of journalism when we were 13 years old running around our neighborhood with a video camera talking to people. He made too many assumptions and did too much speculation. The girl's phone rang and to him it must be someone who wants to fuck her for money? I think he just got a kick out of repeating the word prostitute. Welcome to the real world.

P. S. I would have lasted about 2 minutes before I would have put that camera down and started fucking one of those chicks.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1146264]Good? That was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. Who is this character and who turned them loose with a video camera? We did a better job of journalism when we were 13 years old running around our neighborhood with a video camera talking to people. He made too many assumptions and did too much speculation. The girl's phone rang and to him it must be someone who wants to fuck her for money? I think he just got a kick out of repeating the word prostitute. Welcome to the real world.

P. S. I would have lasted about 2 minutes before I would have put that camera down and started fucking one of those chicks. [/QUOTE]I doubt he is a big time monger, like you, so we should not expect him to know what is going on.
He explains that he has never been a trick! That explains why he did not pull out his wallet, hand the girls cash, and then "fuck one of them" as you would have done.

SS

[QUOTE=Oh Ya Papi; 1146258]He says" its crazy" over and over. What is crazy. Sex=natural. Poverty=larger than you or me. Economics=life.

No body is forced hurt or unwilling.

Fuck this guy, non Spanish speaking eeuu fuck he prob been o 2 countries naive doosh. [/QUOTE]He is not a pay as you go monger as are you. He is probably nervous about being in the DR for the first time.

Most guys are not big time tricks believe it or not. Cut the guy some slack. Where is your video?

Funny thing is I bet he did not have to pay the girls one cent but got them on video. We barely see any photos on this forum and you guys are PAYING, big time TRICKING! LOL!

SS

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1146264]Good? That was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. Who is this character and who turned them loose with a video camera? We did a better job of journalism when we were 13 years old running around our neighborhood with a video camera talking to people. He made too many assumptions and did too much speculation. The girl's phone rang and to him it must be someone who wants to fuck her for money? I think he just got a kick out of repeating the word prostitute. Welcome to the real world.

P. S. I would have lasted about 2 minutes before I would have put that camera down and started fucking one of those chicks. [/QUOTE]This is a fun video of Sosua, that has been posted before; [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDCUG16BJRo[/url]

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1146233][url]http://braziltravelcenter.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/pay-for-play-in-the-dominican-republic/[/url]

This is a good live show on prostitution in the DR.

SS[/QUOTE]I just watched the video. Since I have not been to Sousa yet, it was interesting. Not for the author's take on prostitution in the DR, but for what the streets look like.

How would you rate the appearance of the chicas in the video? The 2 in the beginning? The fat one in the apt? The one's in the brothel (anybody know where that was)? The 3 in the apt at the end?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1146363]I just watched the video. Since I have not been to Sousa yet, it was interesting. Not for the author's take on prostitution in the DR, but for what the streets look like.

How would you rate the appearance of the chicas in the video? The 2 in the beginning? The fat one in the apt? The one's in the brothel (anybody know where that was)? The 3 in the apt at the end? [/QUOTE]"The fat one in the apt" was one of the hottest women in the whole video! She had tits and ass for days! If anyone knows where that was or how I could find her while I'm down there, please let me know!

[QUOTE=Oh Ya Papi;1146256]She gets a call and she says she is here with a gringo, the announcer says she gets calls from gringos, [b]dumb ass doesn't know she is talking about him[/b].[/QUOTE]NOW THAT'S FUNNY! And I haven't even watched the video yet, LOL!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1146321]This is a fun video of Sosua, that has been posted before;

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDCUG16BJRo[/url][/QUOTE]Damn Jao, that was a low blow LMAO. The old Sosua, traffic, noise, and so much pussy on the sidewalk you had to walk in the streeet to get by.

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1146421]"The fat one in the apt" was one of the hottest women in the whole video! She had tits and ass for days! If anyone knows where that was or how I could find her while I'm down there, please let me know![/QUOTE]There are hundreds like her. How many dozen would you like?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1146363]I just watched the video. Since I have not been to Sousa yet, it was interesting. Not for the author's take on prostitution in the DR, but for what the streets look like.

How would you rate the appearance of the chicas in the video? The 2 in the beginning? The fat one in the apt? The one's in the brothel (anybody know where that was)? The 3 in the apt at the end? [/QUOTE]Delete your post as it makes reference to a link I have asked the moderator to delete.

SS

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1146264]Good? That was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. Who is this character and who turned them loose with a video camera? We did a better job of journalism when we were 13 years old running around our neighborhood with a video camera talking to people. He made too many assumptions and did too much speculation. The girl's phone rang and to him it must be someone who wants to fuck her for money? I think he just got a kick out of repeating the word prostitute. Welcome to the real world.

P. S. I would have lasted about 2 minutes before I would have put that camera down and started fucking one of those chicks. [/QUOTE]Delete your post as it makes reference to a link I have asked the moderator to disable.

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1146233][url]http://braziltravelcenter.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/pay-for-play-in-the-dominican-republic/[/url]

This is a good live show on prostitution in the DR.

SS[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sunset Strip;1146546]Delete your post as it makes reference to a link I have asked the moderator to disable.[/QUOTE]Sunset Strip who would have ever guessed one simple video link would cause such replies. Sunset Strip the video link was posted once before probably before you and other newer guys were reading the DR threads. The video you posted and another one was posted just around the time of the Sosua crackdown. There are a couple of guys on this forum who are really good with searching old posts and can probably dig up the links to both videos for those who may not have seen them, although I still believe both videos were related to Boca Chica.

[QUOTE=Bq Ribs;1146554]Sunset Strip who would have ever guessed one simple video link would cause such replies. Sunset Strip the video link was posted once before probably before you and other newer guys were reading the DR threads. The video you posted and another one was posted just around the time of the Sosua crackdown. There are a couple of guys on this forum who are really good with searching old posts and can probably dig up the links to both videos for those who may not have seen them, although I still believe both videos were related to Boca Chica.[/QUOTE]Why would anybody WANT to dig up the links? That would be strange behavior.

As I said, I sent a comment informing the guy that I posted on this site and he flipped. Johns / mongers / tricks were not the intended audience. As everyone on here seems to agree the video is worthless to mongers, then all should be happy. I asked the mods to delete my post as I want no connection to a post that links to a site not aimed at the monger / john audience.

SS

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip;1146563]As I said, I sent a comment informing the guy that I posted on this site and he flipped. Johns / mongers / tricks were not the intended audience. As everyone on here seems to agree the video is worthless to mongers, then all should be happy. I asked the mods to delete my post as I want no connection to a post that links to a site not aimed at the monger / john audience.[/QUOTE]Did he happen to mention who his intended audience was? Would it by chance have been people who couldn't have imagined that prostitution actually existed (him being one of them)? That guy was greener than Everglades National Park.

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1146563]Why would anybody WANT to dig up the links? That would be strange behavior.

As I said, I sent a comment informing the guy that I posted on this site and he flipped. Johns / mongers / tricks were not the intended audience. As everyone on here seems to agree the video is worthless to mongers, then all should be happy. I asked the mods to delete my post as I want no connection to a post that links to a site not aimed at the monger / john audience.

SS[/QUOTE]Johns / mongers / tricks were not the intended audience? First rule when you put something on the internet is to assume that it will be seen by everyone (moms, girlfriends, bosses, The Pope).

[QUOTE=Frannie;1146515]There are hundreds like her. How many dozen would you like?[/QUOTE]I would like several dozen! Now, I like thin girls just as much as the next guy but, there are few things as satisfying as taking a girl like that, making her get down on all four, ass in the air, and pounding the hell out of that fat ass till you bust a nut deep inside her! I hope they have a few like that at BB!

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1146716]Johns / mongers / tricks were not the intended audience? First rule when you put something on the internet is to assume that it will be seen by everyone (moms, girlfriends, bosses, The Pope).[/QUOTE]The video was put on youtube, for everyone. That is not the issue. The issue and who are you anyway? LOL.

The issue is that the video was not meant FOR THE ISG! There is no problem with you all going to youtube. The problem is that somebody got upset that I sent the link to THIS SITE!

And as you all have proven the video is of NO VALUE to you, so shut up, and be happy the link is gone from this site.

Sorry to sully your glorious thread!

SS

Good post, looking forward to day 2.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1146188]I have been many places in the DR and I can say honestly that Sosua is my Favorite. When I go anywhere else I feel lost like I'm alone in another country but when I'm in sosua I feel right at home.

I arrived Sunday the 10th of April and checked into Sosua by the sea resort. Substandard motel 6 quality rooms and incompetent staff ultimately had me seeking another location to sleep. I did use the safe and left most of my clothes there. I walked out my room at 3pm and the first thing I noticed was Sosua was as dead as a cemetery. Nobody was on the streets not even the motochonco guys. My first rule of business was to see if there were any women at new garden. At the desert shop on the corner next to the baseball field were about four girls lounging. No women at new garden so I doubled back and got one of the cute ones. New garden wants 70 American for a room. The website says different but I was more concerned with the chica. She showered and we started. She didn't want to do anything claiming her throat was sore, her vagina was sore. Figured I was a fool so I asked her to leave. She still wanted 2000 pesos. I did manage to get some oral from her and about 15 minutes of doggy style from her. I gave her 1000 pesos and she left. I have 2 photos of her I'll post under the name 'lazy girl'

I walked back to the ice cream spot but the chicas have dispersed. One of the motochonco guys drove me to la passions which had a very disappointing selection. Three girls and they seemed less likely to perform so I declined. One asked me how many chicas you need. I said 10 and all at once. Big laugh! The same motochonco guy told me he had a good chica. And he did! She was a stallion! Big ass and breast. Came in my room at new garden washed up and got to it. She did a reverse cowgirl that was amazing. I came in her mouth. She wanted an extra 500 pesos as propina. I declined. The extra pesos were what she had to give to motochonco guy for the score. She told me to tell him I gave her 1500 pesos. I'll post a picture of her under the name 'cow girl'. Afterwards I walked around looking for a phone which I never found. I bumped into my Haitian buddy from my original Sosua trip. He carried me to Cmp. The Lite skin chica I had from my previous trip was waiting on me. I promised to buy her way out and we'the spend two days together. Once I arrived I noticed another lite skin chica I wanted so I asked her to wait until she got off and to come to my hotel. 2500 pesos with no budge room. I accepted and we went to the room. She honestly wanted to hacer la amor more then me. She was all cowgirl and I was asking her about a possible phone. She was disturbed. I came on her belly as she requested. She gave me her number but I actually asked for her phone. Ahh well!

Now in order for my lite skin Cmp chica to reach me that night I would need a phone. She gave me hers and said wait for the call. I agreed. I used her phone and called Gucci girl from my previous trip. Gucci girl leaves in Sosua so I just dropped by. She reacted like I proposed to her. All smiles and hugs. Gave me her I'd and her cell phone because remember I didn't have one yet wink wink. Now I have two phones. We agreed to meet at New Garden in an hour. I walked up to El flow where all the women were. Darkness brings swarms and swarms of chicas. Hot ones! I ordered the chicken wings and French fries from Rumba bar and walked around asking for numbers. A few chicas grabbed me and refused to let go. Ahhh Sosua! 15 minutes later food was ready. 200 pesos and I proceeded to walk back new garden. Gucci girl arrived shortly afterwards. Got a salad and water and we headed to the room. Probably the best oral sex ever. She was extremely tight so sex was a little limited. I came 1500 pesos she left and I remained in the bed. 10:00pm I walked out my door and the same motochonco guy from earlier had another Stallion for me. No thanks. Got her number and proceeded back to calle.

Classicos wasn't open yet but the street was packed. I walked into Latino's but it was empty. I was being pursued by a few aggressive chicas. One threw ice at me for ignoring her. I sat down at the bar below classic and watched all the beautiful chicas arrived dressed to impress. I purchased a beer to please the waitress. Chicas blew kisses at me and shook my hand but I was all tapped out. The chica I sat beside was gorgeous or at least all the guys that seen her picture think so. She was from Puerto Plata and claimed she was looking for a husband. Then she said 1000 pesos for an hour and 1500 for todo la noches. I tried to work the gratis, estoy buscada para una esposa pero she wanted money. We left for new garden. She delivered the goods and left. 1000 pesos. I got her number. I passed out shortly afterwards. Remember the Cmp chica who gave me her phone? Well she called like 20 times but I was out cold. Woke up at 5am and noticed all the calls but its too late now. Walked up to classicos but everything was done. A motochonco guy took me to another spot. Saw a chica outside. Pretty decent so we rode into the sunset. When I arrived at new garden I didn't have change to pay the motochonco but a fellow monger was outside paid the 50 pesos. He also wanted my chica. He delivered a slew of Spanish lines and got her phone number before I could get her in the room. We did the deed. I took a few pictures of her which I'll label 'late night chica'. The service was todo la noches mostly because it was 5am. She was a great provider. Performed and went to sleep. Day one[/QUOTE]

For those interested in some Afro-Latin American history. Places covered include the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Brazil among others:

"[i]Black In Latin America, premiering nationally Tuesdays April 19, 26 and May 3, 10, 2011 at 8 p.m. (ET) on PBS (check local listings), examines how Africa and Europe came together to create the rich cultures of Latin America and the Caribbean[/i]"

[url]http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/featured/preview-black-in-latin-america/172/[/url]

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1146716]Johns / mongers / tricks were not the intended audience? First rule when you put something on the internet is to assume that it will be seen by everyone (moms, girlfriends, bosses, The Pope).[/QUOTE]Thank You, He missed that paert when he posted it, but knew what he was doing. I have people taking about it already!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1146788]For those interested in some Afro-Latin American history. Places covered include the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Brazil among others:

"[i]Black In Latin America, premiering nationally Tuesdays April 19, 26 and May 3, 10, 2011 at 8 pm (ET) on PBS (check local listings) , examines how Africa and Europe came together to create the rich cultures of Latin America and the Caribbean[/i]"

[url]http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/featured/preview-black-in-latin-america/172/[/url][/QUOTE]Just checked DirectTV info listing and tonight is specifically about Haiti and the DR.

I just booked my flt for the 1st of June to the 5th. Not sure where to stay, but actually thinking of TheManTour and hotel.

Anyone have any comments on this place. Good or bad?

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1146203]Just booked my flight. I stayed at NG before, but I am considering Terra Linda this time around. I asked for some home villa / rental ideas, but nobody responded. Thanks Fellas!

Mr. Gogo,

If you happen to be around during those dates, I still have that drink or three ready for you. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1146321]This is a fun video of Sosua, that has been posted before;

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDCUG16BJRo[/url][/QUOTE]Ah. The heydeys! Thanks Jao for reposting. Is it anywhere close these days?

[QUOTE=Kman1;1147021]Ah. The heydeys! Thanks Jao for reposting. Is it anywhere close these days?[/QUOTE]Mr E would be in a better position to answer that question, (compare the video to how Sosua is, when Mr E was there recently). One difference might be, is that the bars supposedly now have partitions, that supposedly block then from the sidewalk.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man69;1146965]I just booked my flt for the 1st of June to the 5th. Not sure where to stay, but actually thinking of TheManTour and hotel. Anyone have any comments on this place. Good or bad?[/QUOTE]I am not sure whether the ManTour Hotel is a specific hotel or just a generic name for wherever he can get the best deal for you (and himself). No harm in that.

And if he does own his own hotel, I would guess that to be in Puerto Plata rather than Sosúa.

Could someone, preferably "the Man" himself, please clarify?

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1147032]Mr E would be in a better position to answer that question, (compare the video to how Sosua is, when Mr E was there recently). One difference might be, is that the bars supposedly now have partitions, that supposedly block then from the sidewalk.[/QUOTE]Latinos did some renovations so it has a type of partition (you cannot see from the street what is going on in the bar!). The other places (Merengue Bar, Hotel Central, etc.) are the same.

Gents.

With all the renovations and closures going on just want to know if these 2 locations are still open and operating.

Money exchange: between El Flow and Latino across the street from Rumba.

Claro phone store : By NG for sim cards

Thanks in advance

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Bkgee;1146856]Thank You, He missed that paert when he posted it, but knew what he was doing. I have people taking about it already![/QUOTE]Are you talking about me?

There seems to be a bit of illiteracy here. First, that ATH person begins talking about the moms, dads, popes, etc.

What does that mean?

I doubt if most normal people have a problem with the video. It is MONGERS (can't use the W-word on here) who have a problem with it. I posted the link and then the website that had the link berated me for posting on this site. So I asked for it to be taken from this site. That was all I said. Add to that the fact that the MONGERS on here said the video was crap, then what is the big deal? Everybody happy, right? The website is happy and the MONGERS on here should be happy that a video they all hated was gone. Life is back to normal!

Now, one guy is talking about people searching for the video and now BKGEE is saying I "knew what I was doing" What the FUC* does that mean?

Yes, I meant to post a video, because this forum is basically dead, thinking you all might want to know what information about the DR was being put out to the public. Instead, people on here brought negativity (though most of you don't post shit anyway!). Then the linked site said take it down, because it wants no connection to MONGERS.

Some of these replies are just damned stupid.

"I knew what I was doing?" What the fuc* does that mean?

Stop with the negativity. You come off like a loser. Nobody is trying to start trouble. A dead forum gets a relevant video posted and people begin crying like babies. The video gets removed and they cry more.

This is some stupid crap! Seriously.

And for the record the video was not posted as:

1. An attempt to sell travel to the DR.

2. Representative of how all the girls look in the DR.

3. An enticement for MONGERS.

4. For any other reason than the one stated!

SS

[QUOTE=Bkgee;1146856]Thank You, He missed that paert when he posted it, but knew what he was doing. I have people taking about it already![/QUOTE]Who are to tell me that I have to state WHY I am posting something?

SS

[QUOTE=Bkgee;1121249]Western Union across from the playero supermarket in sosua, I was there in October and it was $37. 10 to $1.[/QUOTE]Dude, you know what you are doing? Right?

You forgot to tell us that when you posted? Right?

Do I sound like you yet?

WTF.

SS

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1147328]Dude, you know what you are doing? Right?

You forgot to tell us that when you posted? Right?

Do I sound like you yet?

WTF.

SS[/QUOTE]Use [url]www.xoom.com[/url] Set up an account, send yourself money, pick the money up at a Progresso Bank, or a Carib Express. Easy, fast, cheap and safe. All done on your computer.

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1147300]Gents.

With all the renovations and closures going on just want to know if these 2 locations are still open and operating.

Money exchange: between El Flow and Latino across the street from Rumba.

Claro phone store : By NG for sim cards

Thanks in advance

Nowrath[/QUOTE]DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT use the cambio between El Flow and Latino's!

They will try to short change you every f*cking time you go there, the later at night you go there the more they try to take you for, I for one know enough not to walk away from anywhere in the DR before counting my change. T do this because they think you are drunk and / or don't have the balls to confront them. I went there three times and every single time they tried to short change me, the third time they tried to f*ck me out of 1000 pesos. One might ask why I went back after the first time? Well, the second time I went there a different person was working there so I decided to give him a chance and they are in fact convenient but sure enough the guy tried to short me. The third time I was a little drunk and went there with a friend of mine to show him that these guys are thieves and to bust the guys balls. Sure enough the guy tried to screw me out of 1000 pesos we both called him every name in the book and told him we were going to tell everyone we knew that he was a ladrone. To top it all off their rate sucks too!

Back from my umpteenth trip in two years, and all thanks to BBQ, Jas and gang who put me on to this place.

Nothing memorable to report this time, so bear with me while I try to put a few coherent thoughts together.

Stayed with buddy and novia this time in an upscale condo 10-15 mins walk from the strip.

Same welcome (novia holding up two Presidentes and hollering from the airport bar- she's there with her aunt) and I'm home already. I tell you, that taxi ride from the airport with a beer in my hand on the way to paradise is the best feeling in the world.

Now novia had arranged to bring in friends for buddy, but more about that later.

First things first so check in and down to Bermuda bar to say hello to old friends. Not too many chicas around except for a few regulars, but a couple of barrista friends from Happy Bar meet us there and we party. Tomas, the manager tells me he has been trying to buy the bar from the fat german, but is worried that the recent crack down has hurt the business. It'll be OK, I tell him, location, location, location.

A few more beers and we're off to Happy Bar with the barristas, but buddy can't get past Classicos, so we go up to see what's happening. It's only my second time up there, but not too crowded from what I remembered before, and a good selection of 7-8s with few mongers around.

Old friend of Novia comes up and buddy is done like dinner, then a bunch of brothers, all dressed alike, show up and take over the whole place. They know how to party. We move on to Happy Bar with novia, aunt, buddy and his new "angelface" in tow.

At Happy Bar, now the tequilas and mamaguanas start to flow and the dancing starts. Barrista #1 climbs up on bar and starts to shake it, beer bottles flying everywhre, but the Manager don't mind, she works there and the action attracts a crowd. Then novia wants to show her stuff for me so now she's up on the bar too. Buddy sits with angelface and looks happy.

Manager tells me he'll sell the bar for $50k (for you enterpreneurs out there) which is what the crazy Canadian was asking for his 3 seater down at the beach parking lot. No comparison, but, as they say, the details are in the fine print.

When we leave, its say goodbye to aunt, and four of us head back to condo.

Later

Next day buddy sends angelface home, and we're on the loose again.

Novia's friends are calling to meet buddy so we have some logistics for him. He's discovered Classicos now so he's playing it cool. I guess the chicas are parked locally with family waiting for the call, but he's in no hurry. Who can blame him?

He's feeling a little obligated, a little pressured since it was his idea to line 'them up in advance, so we hang out again in Classicos. He figures out the best spot is at the bar at the bottom of the stairs, so's he can see the street action and intercept the fine ones before they go upstairs.

He has no spanish so he appreciates mi princessa taking care of everything, introductions, bar bills, etc.

After another bar stroll we head back to condo, and arrange for him to meet chica#1 the next day.

Next day we meet her lunchtime at the bar, and she's special, around 21, slim and beautiful but damn young, just like he ordered! Princessa gives me that "told you so look" and we're all cool. We've arranged for princessa's bambina and her little friend to come see the condo, pool and playa for the afternoon and they have a great time, especially the chica and the kids. I'm thinking she's just a kid herself, and reflect on our age differences and the mongering scene in general. But, hey, I didn't make the rules, and the second thoughts only last for a minute or so.

She's camped in Cabarette so we decide to go out there for dinner, and maybe pick up a few clothes if she stays with us.

We pick a nice restaurant, but it turns out to be damned expensive for the four of us, $400 or so. Aye, yi yi!

Our cab driver is my old motoconcho friend of two years, who has borrowed a car from his "brother". He has no money so we are stopping for gas on a regular basis. We pick up clothes and back to condo.

Next day we hang out at the bar, and the chicas say they will cook dinner for us that night so off to supermecado for supplies. A great dinner then an early night, tv novellas, sexo and sleep.

Aside from sex buddy and chica#1 have nothing in common, what with the age difference and no spanish, so we arrange for her to go home. Chica#2 is now calling on the hour, every hour.

Later

Hey kitie and Dan. I'll be in Sosua with a few of my buddies from June 3rd thru 12th, staying at La Perla. Seems like you're planning on hitting all of the spots I've been looking at. See you around.

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1147324]Me and a few other's get in on June 3rd. Staying at Terra Linda. Feel free to have a beer or 2 with us. We will be EVERYWHERE. LOL NG, Classicos. La Passions, CMP.[/QUOTE]

Got in today and because of the holiday the market was packed and the claro shop, which I prefer in sim cards was closed on the street a claro dealer wanted to sell me a phone with an orange sim card but only need the sim not the phone when I was here 2 years ago I got a unregistered claro sim that is surprisingly showing up when I powered up the phone, but the dealer said it was too old.

So connection wise is there a big difference between the two cards, oh and also the dealer told me that no more were being sold until Saturday or Sunday, this was 3:00pm I was talking with him

BS or truth, thanks for any info

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1147691]Got in today and because of the holiday the market was packed and the claro shop, which I prefer in sim cards was closed on the street a claro dealer wanted to sell me a phone with an orange sim card but only need the sim not the phone when I was here 2 years ago I got a unregistered claro sim that is surprisingly showing up when I powered up the phone, but the dealer said it was too old.

So connection wise is there a big difference between the two cards, oh and also the dealer told me that no more were being sold until Saturday or Sunday, this was 3:00pm I was talking with him

BS or truth, thanks for any info

Nowrath[/QUOTE]I used an Orange sim early on in a few phones It was a problem to find minutes for me. My biggest complaint was when I took my eyes off the counterperson, they swapped my battery! I realized it later when it seemed to die in half the time. After this I marked my batteries. Since then I stopped using my cell and I bought a cheap Dr phone from Claro.

Does anyone know, I lost my phone and of course sim card, Can I get another sim card from the same company with my same phone number?

Wuts up guys? Have'nt been to Sosua in three so years. My only complaint was it was too small. Unlike the size of Pattaya where every night theres a new corner of town or soi to hit. Just curious has it gotten any bigger in size? I see from the pics the girls are still wearing the exagerated eyebrow makeup. Have they found out what a crunch is or are they still letting they're bellies hang after child birth at 15?

[QUOTE=Pro Am;1147853]Does anyone know, I lost my phone and of course sim card, Can I get another sim card from the same company with my same phone number?[/QUOTE]But my experience has been that you have to go to the store where you bought it, or, I am not certain, a store like Claro that has a computer to track your name. Then you can get a SIM card with your same cell number. I have done this twice.

You can't compare the two.

Like comparing one apple to a all you can eat fruit buffet.

Pattaya is just bigger, cheaper and much more variety, of not just woman but everything, restaurants, movie theaters, massage places, bowling, etc etc.

I was walking on the beach today in Sousa, it was packed with all sizes, shapes, and colors, much better beaches then Pattaya, but no sit ups are not a priority here, but that goes for men and woman from all countries.

My last trip LOS was last year I will return again but Pattaya is boring now to me I stay in Jomtien and hardly never venture thru walking street or Soi 6,

Just like this trip second to DR, I'm taking day trips into Santiago and La Vega and perhaps Santo Domingo, it country has it's pro and cons, DR of course is closer for me, but since my first trip LOS in 1992, It always has something to bring me back.

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido; 1147440]Use.

[url]www.xoom.com[/url]

Set up an account, send yourself money, pick the money up at a Progresso Bank, or a Carib Express. Easy, fast, cheap and safe. All done on your computer. [/QUOTE]Not necessarily. I lost my ATM card about two years ago and when I attempted to send myself money, they wouldn't allow it. They told me to go to one of the local banks and get money from my credit card. Not implying that you weren't successful, but that I wasn't.

Hey,

I'll be in Sosua May 21 to 28 at Don Antonio.

Msg me if you want to grab a drink, will be with my co pilot.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1147473]Next day buddy sends angelface home, and we're on the loose again.[/QUOTE]Oakie. It may be more of the same, but I for one love to hear of the day to day minutia. I too just returned from the SU and have many years and trips under my belt.

Each time I go, I think that this will be my last trip, as things have changed so much. But at the end of the day, how much better does it get than hanging out with good friends in the tropics. Cold beer, nice beaches, sun, music. And there are still one or two encounters each trip that make it special. Yes, I will be going back again.

Please continue with your TR. Really enjoy it. Thanks

Buddy and I took a walk up to Passions to check it out. It was just after lunch, so we didn't expect any action. Just three inmates, but one was a cracker! Young, pretty and slim (the way I like them). Chatted to the chicas and then moved on to CMP, but they seemed to be closed.

Met princessa then back to condo, but on the way past Casa Cayenna they stuffed a flyer in our hands for Bikini Contest at 2 pm. Hey, its 2 pm now so we walk in to the bar. A good crowd and loud music with tables of chicas waiting to start.

Waiting was the operative word, because we started drinking, and trying to find a bit of shade around the pool. 2 hours later, no bikinis yet and I'd had enough, was ready to leave but princessa's cousin and his eldest son who was celebrating his birthday was in the area and was coming to join us to see the show, so we're stuck! More beer and more sun, and at around 5. 30 the show finally gets started.

It was more of a shake, bump and grind dance show than a bikini parade and there were some seriously hot chicas trying to outdo each other, but they mostly looked like seasoned pros.

Another hour with lots of breaks and the winner finally gets her $200.

Now we had a new word for a boring bad time "bikini contest".

Reminded me of when I was young, and took an hour off work to see a strip show. I thought I'd timed it perfectly and nobody would miss me, but the show started with a comedian, and he went on for an hour or so before that stripper came out.

Anyway, back to the bars in the evening, and although we'd seen Naomi riding up and down the street with that permanent smile, she saw us and came over. He / she looked stunning, and had a dress on with the fron cut down to the waist. She had new tits installed since the last time, and boy, was she proud of them!

There was the obligatory family picnic at the beach in Choramicos with lots of good food and beer, then the trip was over.

All in all, I found Sosua to be still full of all the action you need, even if the BIg Show has been curtailed by the police prescence.

(As an aside, the three of us were in the bar with two Nationales hanging aroud the corner. One came up to me and held out his hand with a polite "Good afternoonm, Senor" He repeated that with buddy and princessa. WTF?

I guess it must be some kind of political PR campaign design to placate the mongers)

On another note we showed princessa such a good time here and in Punta Cana, that she has been spoiled and her financial needs are starting to escalate. Blame my buddy, but that's another story.

[QUOTE=Patrk39;1148166]Each time I go, I think that this will be my last trip, as things have changed so much. But at the end of the day, how much better does it get than hanging out with good friends in the tropics. Cold beer, nice beaches, sun, music. And there are still one or two encounters each trip that make it special. Yes, I will be going back again.[/QUOTE]You said it all, friend!

I found the girls at the strip mostly pro looking to make a quick buck. None would do TLNs. One agreed to stay for 3 hours but started asking for money and propina even before the 1st hour. All promises of a message and a second time were conveniently forgotten. I also personally felt that the girl / guy ratio was not very favorable for the guys.

Girls are in the New Garden, the same ones as usual. Girls in other hotel around the corner also in late afternoon. Both in El Batey and Chiramico girls not out walking around about alot so takes alot of effort during the day, so no longer fun in the day. The beach scene is also dead, nothing but tourists, Sunday should be interesting though. Classicos is good one night with alot of girls going from club 59 to upstairs after 11, then next night not that many. The guys that live here have seen alot of arrests which are basically to take the money from the girls and scare them back home. I have noticed no real escorting but, perhaps it might happen. Spoke to one girl who supposedly has family with the Politur so they don't hassle her. The haitians were the first targets, talked to some and they were returning to Haiti because of the harrassment.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1147457]Manager tells me he'll sell the bar for $50k (for you enterpreneurs out there) which is what the crazy Canadian was asking for his 3 seater down at the beach parking lot. No comparison, but, as they say, the details are in the fine print.[/QUOTE]The Happy Bar has been for sale since it opened, that does not include any property, just the business, and the rent on that corner is I-N-S-A-N-E!

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1148169] (As an aside, the three of us were in the bar with two Nationales hanging aroud the corner. One came up to me and held out his hand with a polite "Good afternoonm, Senor" He repeated that with buddy and princessa. WTF?

I guess it must be some kind of political PR campaign design to placate the mongers)

On another note we showed princessa such a good time here and in Punta Cana, that she has been spoiled and her financial needs are starting to escalate. Blame my buddy, but that's another story. [/QUOTE]He was holding out his hand for a regalo, not for you to shake it!

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1148213]The Happy Bar has been for sale since it opened, that does not include any property, just the business, and the rent on that corner is I-N-S-A-N-E![/QUOTE]Every bar in Sosua is for sale. It is like the old saying," Everything is for sale except my wife". Except in Sosua the latter is not always true!

I will be in town for 7 weeks with side trips to Samana, Santo Domingo and Rio San Juan. PM me if you want to get together for a cerveza.

[quote=gringo7900;1148179]i found the girls at the strip mostly pro looking to make a quick buck. none would do tlns. one agreed to stay for 3 hours but started asking for money and propina even before the 1st hour. all promises of a message and a second time were conveniently forgotten. i also personally felt that the girl / guy ratio was not very favorable for the guys.[/quote]you make one intetesting point i over looked from previous trips. the lack of noise in the hotel in the morning. back in the day you would hear every 30 minutes or so the click clack of a chica walking the hall as she leaves, damn right i ran to the window to peek out like a pervert. you would also see a line as chicas waited for their cedulas. my trip in march you could actually hear the birds churping in the morning. no activity at all. so you are correct about girls not doing tln anymore. before you would see a steady stream of girls on motochonchos, with the same clothes from the night before, going home. i guess the police probaly had a crew to intercept the girls after a nights hustle. but tln might be out for some.

[QUOTE=Gringo7900;1148180]Girls are in the New Garden, the same ones as usual. Girls in other hotel around the corner also in late afternoon. Both in El Batey and Chiramico girls not out walking around about alot so takes alot of effort during the day, so no longer fun in the day. The beach scene is also dead, nothing but tourists, Sunday should be interesting though. Classicos is good one night with alot of girls going from club 59 to upstairs after 11, then next night not that many. The guys that live here have seen alot of arrests which are basically to take the money from the girls and scare them back home. I have noticed no real escorting but, perhaps it might happen. Spoke to one girl who supposedly has family with the Politur so they don't hassle her. The haitians were the first targets, talked to some and they were returning to Haiti because of the harrassment.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Gringo7900;1148179]I found the girls at the strip mostly pro looking to make a quick buck. None would do TLNs. One agreed to stay for 3 hours but started asking for money and propina even before the 1st hour. All promises of a message and a second time were conveniently forgotten. I also personally felt that the girl / guy ratio was not very favorable for the guys.[/QUOTE]Thank you for an honest, up-to-date, and sobering assessment. Sounds like Oakie's the only guy in town having fun. But then again, he does sleep in the same bed (novia) on every trip so that's not a fair comparison, lol.

Judging by what is happening in Santo Domingo, it won't be long until the DR is slowly morphed into the PR. So far I haven't heard of any mongering going on in Puerto Rico.

However, Classicos was a zoo with seemingly more Mongers than than chicas. I was out of there in 10 minutes at 1am.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1148440]However, Classicos was a zoo with seemingly more Mongers than than chicas. I was out of there in 10 minutes at 1am.[/QUOTE]I would have been out of there sooner.

[quote=mr gogo;1148313]you make one intetesting point i over looked from previous trips. the lack of noise in the hotel in the morning. back in the day you would hear every 30 minutes or so the click clack of a chica walking the hall as she leaves, damn right i ran to the window to peek out like a pervert. you would also see a line as chicas waited for their cedulas. my trip in march you could actually hear the birds churping in the morning.[/quote]damn man, you're going to make me break out the external hard drive, lol. those were the days!

Gents.

For some reason the ATM banco POPULAR in Sousa is not working for me, clear it with my bank in USA before I left and got a ATM in Caberette to work for me at a gasoline store, any other working ATM in the Sousa area I can go to?

Thanks for any help.

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1149217]Gents.

For some reason the ATM banco POPULAR in Sousa is not working for me, clear it with my bank in USA before I left and got a ATM in Caberette to work for me at a gasoline store, any other working ATM in the Sousa area I can go to?

Thanks for any help.

Nowrath[/QUOTE]Progresso, near Super Liquors and Scotia, a little farther down P. C.

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1149217]Gents.

For some reason the ATM banco POPULAR in Sousa is not working for me, clear it with my bank in USA before I left and got a ATM in Caberette to work for me at a gasoline store, any other working ATM in the Sousa area I can go to?

Thanks for any help.

Nowrath[/QUOTE]Their are plenty of ATM's all over Sosua. Ban Reserva, on Pedro Clisante does not charge the 112 peso atm fee but I was only able to get 4000 at a time. The 2 other banks at that intersection charge the fee but allow you to withdraw 10000 peso, which is cheaper for me because my bank charges me a tranaction fee too so fewer tranactions are cheaper.

And if the Banco Popular you are having trouble with is the one next to Bailey's, I had trouble there too. The English instructions are not translated properly. If you are trying to withdraw from a checking account, you must select savings or it will not work. I did this, selected savings even though the money is in a checking account, and got 10, 000 pesos. I pd the 112 peso atm fee and $3 from my bank, but the money came out of my checking account as it should have. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Ug Man;1149224]If you are trying to withdraw from a checking account, you must select savings or it will not work. I did this, selected savings even though the money is in a checking account, and got 10, 000 pesos. I pd the 112 peso atm fee and $3 from my bank, but the money came out of my checking account as it should have. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Quite right. And this problem is found with several other banks' ATMs as well. I have a checking account (only) with BHD but have to press "savings account" when using their ATMs.

Always worth a try if the ATM is not working for you, whatever the bank.

Your other option is to use your card inside the bank at the teller counter. I usually do this because I can then ask for small bills and coins (say 1000 in 100s, 1000 in 50s and 500 in coins). Safer too, but you will need your passport.

[QUOTE=Ug Man; 1149224]Their are plenty of ATM's all over Sosua. Ban Reserva, on Pedro Clisante does not charge the 112 peso atm fee but I was only able to get 4000 at a time. The 2 other banks at that intersection charge the fee but allow you to withdraw 10000 peso, which is cheaper for me because my bank charges me a tranaction fee too so fewer tranactions are cheaper.

And if the Banco Popular you are having trouble with is the one next to Bailey's, I had trouble there too. The English instructions are not translated properly. If you are trying to withdraw from a checking account, you must select savings or it will not work. I did this, selected savings even though the money is in a checking account, and got 10, 000 pesos. I pd the 112 peso atm fee and $3 from my bank, but the money came out of my checking account as it should have. Hope that helps. [/QUOTE]Ok thanks for all the help, I must be blind and walking right by them, I see alot of Cambio's but I'll look harder for the ATM's also try the savings instead of checking account

Thanks for the info

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1149295]Ok thanks for all the help, I must be blind and walking right by them, I see alot of Cambio's but I'll look harder for the ATM's also try the savings instead of checking account

Thanks for the info[/QUOTE]All the ATM machines I used on my last trip in February. 2011 charged me $5US per transaction, then Chase Bank hit me for another $5US per international transaction fee, cost to use ATM machines for me on that last trip in and around Santo Domingo was $10US per transaction. Banco Leon ATM machines would give a max of 2000 pesos per transaction.

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1149295]Ok thanks for all the help, I must be blind and walking right by them, I see alot of Cambio's but I'll look harder for the ATM's also try the savings instead of checking account

Thanks for the info[/QUOTE]Look for signs that say Cajero or Cajero Automatica. Most of the ones I saw were green.

Glad to see the tip on selecting savings at banco Popular since I have never got my card to work at that bank. Scotia works best for me. I have good luck at the ATM in the wall of Surf Liquors and there is guard in the daytime.

Like I wrote, best bet is to use your card inside the bank. Safer, and you can ask for small bills. Change is hard to find in the DR.

Failing that, use ATMs outside banks. That way, if the machine "eats" your card or there is some other malfunction (much more common in the DR than in the "First World") you have some hope of getting help. God help you if it goes wrong in an ATM at a mercado or filling station because it will always be "someone else's" problem.

I am looking for a reliable cab that can take me from Santiago to Sosua. If any members have a phone number please PM me.

[QUOTE=Conrad Hess;1149518]I am looking for a reliable cab that can take me from Santiago to Sosua. If any members have a phone number please PM me.[/QUOTE]Why take a taxi when you can take a bus for about 6 bucks?

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1149217]Gents.

For some reason the ATM banco POPULAR in Sousa is not working for me, clear it with my bank in USA before I left and got a ATM in Caberette to work for me at a gasoline store, any other working ATM in the Sousa area I can go to?

Thanks for any help.

Nowrath[/QUOTE]Try using the spanish option on the screen, for some reason that seems to work for me on that particular machine

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1149217]Gents.

For some reason the ATM banco POPULAR in Sousa is not working for me, clear it with my bank in USA before I left and got a ATM in Caberette to work for me at a gasoline store, any other working ATM in the Sousa area I can go to?

Thanks for any help.

Nowrath[/QUOTE]About a year ago or more, the ATMs in and around Santo Domingo would not give me money when I chose English as the language. To get money from the machines I had to chose Spanish, as the language the machine would use. Using the ATMs with Spanish as the chosen language, the machines dispensed cash. With English chosen on Banco Popular machines I would receive an unauthorized usage message.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1149692]About a year ago or more, the ATMs in and around Santo Domingo would not give me money when I chose English as the language. To get money from the machines I had to chose Spanish, as the language the machine would use. Using the ATMs with Spanish as the chosen language, the machines dispensed cash. With English chosen on Banco Popular machines I would receive an unauthorized usage message.[/QUOTE]Excellent info that's exactly the message I got, thanks I'll try again tomorrow, much appreciated

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1149708]Excellent info that's exactly the message I got, thanks I'll try again tomorrow, much appreciated

Nowrath[/QUOTE]Efecutivo or something like that on that Banco Popular ATM machines is to get cash, for checking account it is something like Corriente. Different DR banks will use different Spanish words on their ATM machines to describe checking or savings accounts.

It's been awhile since I visited this thread. But it is disgusting to read. When did this become a Gay Racist Thread. All we are talking about here is the guys in Sosua. Lets talk about what this website is here for, CHICAS!

I can remember when the first Black American Monger arrived (LA JAZZ). He was welcomed by all and we were all brothers seeking pussy. So what if now the tides have turned. I still go! And I don't care If I am the sole white monger with 2, 000 Black guys. I will still get what I came for! Mongering is a fraternity. Not about Black or White. But about getting laid. The girls there tell blacks they perfer blacks. They tell the whites they perfer whites. And guess what they tell the japanese? You got it. No matter what color the ATM, it just needs to spit out Dinero!

NOW LETS TALK ABOUT CHICAS AGAIN!

[QUOTE=Fantasy; 1150033]It's been awhile since I visited this thread. But it is disgusting to read. When did this become a Gay Racist Thread. All we are talking about here is the guys in Sosua. Lets talk about what this website is here for, CHICAS!

I can remember when the first Black American Monger arrived (LA JAZZ). He was welcomed by all and we were all brothers seeking pussy. So what if now the tides have turned. I still go! And I don't care If I am the sole white monger with 2, 000 Black guys. I will still get what I came for! Mongering is a fraternity. Not about Black or White. But about getting laid. The girls there tell blacks they perfer blacks. They tell the whites they perfer whites. And guess what they tell the japanese? You got it. No matter what color the ATM, it just needs to spit out Dinero!

NOW LETS TALK ABOUT CHICAS AGAIN![/QUOTE]Welcome back Fantasy. Right now in Sosua there isn't much to talk about with the slowdown, so the board follows that trend. Not many people want to spend money on a place transitioning into something we arent familiar with. Sure pussy is there but most people are taking a wait and see approach.

[QUOTE=Fantasy; 1150033]It's been awhile since I visited this thread. But it is disgusting to read. When did this become a Gay Racist Thread. All we are talking about here is the guys in Sosua. Lets talk about what this website is here for, CHICAS!

I can remember when the first Black American Monger arrived (LA JAZZ). He was welcomed by all and we were all brothers seeking pussy. So what if now the tides have turned. I still go! And I don't care If I am the sole white monger with 2, 000 Black guys. I will still get what I came for! Mongering is a fraternity. Not about Black or White. But about getting laid. The girls there tell blacks they perfer blacks. They tell the whites they perfer whites. And guess what they tell the japanese? You got it. No matter what color the ATM, it just needs to spit out Dinero!

NOW LETS TALK ABOUT CHICAS AGAIN! [/QUOTE]Not sure which Sosua thread you've been following. The last few pages in this forum have been about Taxis, SIM cards, and ATMs.

The lack of chica talk is probably due to no one (including myself) being bold enough to brave the new Sosua for fear of possibly having a shitty time. See Gringo7900's recent reports from 4/23/2011.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1150056]Not sure which Sosua thread you've been following. The last few pages in this forum have been about Taxis, SIM cards, and ATMs.

The lack of chica talk is probably due to no one (including myself) being bold enough to brave the new Sosua for fear of possibly having a shitty time. See Gringo7900's recent reports from 4/23/2011. [/QUOTE]Yeah the lack of chica talk on the entire DR fourm has been quite disturbing. I can wait to get down there next month. I will definatly be "bold enough" to brave the new Sosua and if nothing much is going on there, I'm sure to have plenty of pussy at BB. Can't wait! Since I set up my trip, I have quit seeing the local girls here in the US. I just can't bring myself to pay 100-200 USD for 30min to an hr for a girl here when I know I will get an all nighter for 80usd in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1150058]Yeah the lack of chica talk on the entire DR fourm has been quite disturbing. I can wait to get down there next month. I will definatly be "bold enough" to brave the new Sosua and if nothing much is going on there, I'm sure to have plenty of pussy at BB. Can't wait! Since I set up my trip, I have quit seeing the local girls here in the US. I just can't bring myself to pay 100-200 USD for 30min to an hr for a girl here when I know I will get an all nighter for 80usd in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]Smart move!

I would argue that you should go a step further and make BB's your home base and only venture into Sosua after dark, LOL. At least if nothing is going on in Sosua you would still have an awesome fallback plan (BB's).

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1150058]Yeah the lack of chica talk on the entire DR fourm has been quite disturbing. I can wait to get down there next month. I will definatly be "bold enough" to brave the new Sosua and if nothing much is going on there, I'm sure to have plenty of pussy at BB. Can't wait! Since I set up my trip, I have quit seeing the local girls here in the US. I just can't bring myself to pay 100-200 USD for 30min to an hr for a girl here when I know I will get an all nighter for 80usd in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]Not for sure but a guess, perhaps the lack of chica talk is because it's all been said and said again.

I ask for information that I need, I know ATM talk and sim cards is boring, but it's the info and perhaps some others need.

All chica info has been done, just change the names, of course nothing beats on the ground reports,

I'm waiting for the weather to clear in Santo Domingo where I have a day trip planned starting there, stopping in Santiago on the way back before hitting Sousa

I have 2 dates set up in Santo Domingo, and 2 in Santiago, these will all be sexless dates, just women I have corresponded with online thru DominicanCupid, I get to see some sites I want to see and have someone I kinda know with me, also gives me more time to practice my spanish.

I know not the graphic performance talk one wants on this site, but it does help for other purposes.

I've been here a week, haven't been to Classico or any other place, been to the beach everyday, last holiday weekend it was packed, but as some people on here have said lots of families, which is cool with me since I'm not in the hunt, but the weather here has been outstanding, and there is at least one other person having a great time here,

He woke me up the other morning with his chica yelling bloody murder, so I guess one could say there is still action to have yes

Nowrath

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1150058]... I know I will get an all nighter for 80usd in a few weeks.[/QUOTE] ... or for half of that.

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1150058]I will definatly be "bold enough" to brave the new Sosua and if nothing much is going on there, I'm sure to have plenty of pussy at BB.[/QUOTE]When might you be coming to BB's? I going to be staying there June 7 thru 12th, which is almost next month.

[QUOTE=Fantasy; 1150033]It's been awhile since I visited this thread. But it is disgusting to read. When did this become a Gay Racist Thread. All we are talking about here is the guys in Sosua. Lets talk about what this website is here for, CHICAS!

I can remember when the first Black American Monger arrived (LA JAZZ). He was welcomed by all and we were all brothers seeking pussy. So what if now the tides have turned. I still go! And I don't care If I am the sole white monger with 2, 000 Black guys. I will still get what I came for! Mongering is a fraternity. Not about Black or White. But about getting laid. The girls there tell blacks they perfer blacks. They tell the whites they perfer whites. And guess what they tell the japanese? You got it. No matter what color the ATM, it just needs to spit out Dinero!

NOW LETS TALK ABOUT CHICAS AGAIN! [/QUOTE]I agree with you. I want to read some good stories about mongers banging that Dominican Pussy.

I recently had the pleasure of traveling to Sosua in March. It was my second trip back to this lovely paradise. I resided at the New Garden Hotel and found it quite pleasant. Jenny at the front desk took care of my every need and I had no issues or concerns with the staff. They were all wonderful. During the day things were slower, than my first trip in September. Obviously, the crackdown has moved much of the trade in-doors during the day time or to neighboring towns. But of course, after 10pm Sosua is back in business!

My regular nightly routine: Pregame with the fellas at 9pm, head to the local casino, hit Caribbean Men's Paradise for small drinks and a look at the talent (wack booo) , then to La Passions where I could spend all my life and pesos (I love this place) , then off to Ground Zero 'Classico's! ' Now if I don't pick anything up here, then my last resort is the Sosua Bay Casino down the road. The casino has a 2 level nightclub inside to the right and boyeeee are the women plenty in there too!

Overall my 9 day trip was fantastic. I met tons of people at the New Garden Hotel and even enjoyed their breakfast in the morning. The only thing which bothered me at NG was the rowdiness of the patrons at the hotel I. E. Playing loud music, cursing, yelling, screaming etc. Maybe it was just a bad crowd towards the end of my stay. In addition, several of the guys I met at NG had plenty of difficulties with their chicas. I had none.

I heard plenty of chica's over charging, ripping off / stealing from their clients, having to be dragged out the room by security by their hair. Is it getting that desperate for the chica's now- a- days? One of the chica's tried to cut a friend of mine in his room with glass in the morning after a feud. There needs to be some type of regulation or code of conduct at NG for these chicas, before it becomes UFC! Licencias don't cut it anymore. LOL

Towards the end of my trip, I met a few fellas from the states who ended up being awesome. They had connections everywhere from La Passions to the Puerto Plata night club scene. This was their 7th trip together and while they were much younger than I, they treated me like a brother. I tagged along with them to Crystal's one night in Puerto Plata. Damn that place is amazing! The women almost rip you apart when you enter the door. One of the younger guys in the group passed on some solid knowledge to me. I was catching some feeling towards a chica and the situation was becoming useless as her family needed financial assistance for everything. My new friend told me, 'age doesn't matter in Sosua, money does. And never EVER believe its love with a chica (from Sosua) because you'll end up broke and dumb. ' New guys please carry these words as they have been written and stated before on this site. Sometimes the pussy is that good and the kryptonite can weaken you.

Anyways, I'll be traveling back to Sosua in the beginning of June (Yes I'm addicted) and came across a new establishment in Sosua, as I'm looking elsewhere to stay this time. The accommodations look beautiful and the services appear excellent. I emailed them the other day to inquire about the packages. The rates seem fine for what they offer and the location is great compared to others like Blackbeards and Oxygen. They provide on-site female companionship as well. This is critical to me, because of the shortage of talent during the day in Sosua. I'll admit it, I'm an older man, and I need to fill every void and maximize my trip day and night. I don't mine the massage parlors during the day, but damn if I can get 8's and 9's consistently at one location for around 2, 000 peso's without having to wait until 10pm, then why bother going anywhere else. LOL

The website is [url]www.blackopscaribbean.com.[/url] Anyone have any further information on them? I'm considering reserving with them for June. They appear new and could provide a fresh air to the Sosua scene.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1150072]Smart move!

I would argue that you should go a step further and make BB's your home base and only venture into Sosua after dark, LOL. At least if nothing is going on in Sosua you would still have an awesome fallback plan (BB's).[/QUOTE]Good advise. Blackbeards is the ticket now. The girls there are fine and you can bond with the guys or just chill during the day. Relaxation and sex.

With Sosuas new family enviorment, its ackward for the mongerer. Its not "open season" for mongerers anymore. Mongering in the DR has gone under ground for now. Its funny how things recycle. Back in the day BB was the secret spot for relaxation and sex.

[QUOTE=William Kenent; 1150491]Anyways, I'll be traveling back to Sosua in the beginning of June (Yes I'm addicted) and came across a new establishment in Sosua, as I'm looking elsewhere to stay this time. The accommodations look beautiful and the services appear excellent. I emailed them the other day to inquire about the packages. The rates seem fine for what they offer and the location is great compared to others like Blackbeards and Oxygen. They provide on-site female companionship as well. This is critical to me, because of the shortage of talent during the day in Sosua. I'll admit it, I'm an older man, and I need to fill every void and maximize my trip day and night. I don't mine the massage parlors during the day, but damn if I can get 8's and 9's consistently at one location for around 2, 000 peso's without having to wait until 10pm, then why bother going anywhere else. LOL

The website is.

[url]www.blackopscaribbean.com.[/url]

Anyone have any further information on them? I'm considering reserving with them for June. They appear new and could provide a fresh air to the Sosua scene. [/QUOTE]Pathetic attempt at spam. Why don't you pay if you want to advertise? You have already been hounded off another site when you tried to get free advertising.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1150658]Pathetic attempt at spam. Why don't you pay if you want to advertise? You have already been hounded off another site when you tried to get free advertising.[/QUOTE]I went to the website. Below are the prices quoted. I do not recall Blackbeards being this expensive.

Package Pricing*

Cartagena Villa:

$899 per person (2) bedroom shared condo.

$1799 (private two bedroom condo)

Rio Villa:

$1499 Charity Suite.

$1799 Terrace Suite.

$1999 Poolside Suite.

$1999 Junior Suite.

$1999 Mountain Suite.

*All packages will include free airport pickup from Puerto Plata airport only. In addition, further transportation methods can be arranged at the client's expense. Selected night time group transportation will be arranged at the Black Ops Caribbean expense. Clients will be responsible for entry fees to night clubs and / or any additional events. These event outings are optional and will range in price from $4-10 USD per event.

Hell of alot of money if you ask me!

[QUOTE=Boriman; 1150784]I went to the website. Below are the prices quoted. I do not recall Blackbeards being this expensive.

Package Pricing*

Cartagena Villa:

$899 per person (2) bedroom shared condo.

$1799 (private two bedroom condo)

Rio Villa:

$1499 Charity Suite.

$1799 Terrace Suite.

$1999 Poolside Suite.

$1999 Junior Suite.

$1999 Mountain Suite.

*All packages will include free airport pickup from Puerto Plata airport only. In addition, further transportation methods can be arranged at the client's expense. Selected night time group transportation will be arranged at the Black Ops Caribbean expense. Clients will be responsible for entry fees to night clubs and / or any additional events. These event outings are optional and will range in price from $4-10 USD per event.

Hell of alot of money if you ask me! [/QUOTE]Prices are for four nights, appears food is not included in the price. Chicas not included. A shared condo works out to about $225 per night, per person ($450 per night for two guys sharing a Condominium apartment, the photos of the apartment looks nothing special).

Much better deals on Condominium apartments can be found using other sites. That site gives no physical address of the condominium or villas.

From their Questions page: "Food and Beverages, On-sight food, beverages, and mixed drinks will be served at our Cabana Tiki Bar for a nominal price. We will serve an array of international and local cuisines for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. A recommended food budget per day is $20-40 USD per person. At the Moment, the Cartagena Condos will only serve beverages on-site. Additionally, several restaurants, pubs, and grocery stores can be found only a short taxi drive away from each location.

Full payment of reservation is required (7) days prior to arrival date.

Black Ops Caribbean doesn't physically own any properties in the Dominican Republic. All accommodations are rented from reputable Dominican based real estate management firms.

Depending upon which package you select, we will then send you a confirmation email stating that particular locations physical address."

[QUOTE=Boriman;1150784]Hell of alot of money if you ask me![/QUOTE]Especially as you would be trusting your money and your precious vacation time to guys with nil track record and every indication they have no business plan (like lame attempts to get free advertising here and other boards, posting pics of chicas totally unrepresentative of anything they could come up with, posting a picture of Cabarete beach at night to suggest Sosúa has a thriving beach night-life. Yeah, druggies, muggers and shoot-on-sight cops).

Nice website, though, and a standard of literacy that puts every monger board to shame. I am sure Mr Jackson approves of that, at least. The actual writing style is a bit pink and fluffy, rather like the lifestyle articles in those free magazines the superstores stick in women's trolleys.

[QUOTE=Boriman; 1150784]Rio Villa:

$1499 Charity Suite.

$1799 Terrace Suite.

$1999 Poolside Suite.

$1999 Junior Suite.

$1999 Mountain Suite.

*All packages will include free airport pickup from Puerto Plata airport only. In addition, further transportation methods can be arranged at the client's expense. Selected night time group transportation will be arranged at the Black Ops Caribbean expense. Clients will be responsible for entry fees to night clubs and / or any additional events. These event outings are optional and will range in price from $4-10 USD per event.

Hell of alot of money if you ask me! [/QUOTE]So after you shell out 2 grand for the room, they want to shake you down for 4 bucks for an event? WTF!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1150801]Prices are for four nights, appears food is not included in the price. Chicas not included. A shared condo works out to about $225 per night, per person ($450 per night for two guys sharing a Condominium apartment, the photos of the apartment looks nothing special).

Much better deals on Condominium apartments can be found using other sites. That site gives no physical address of the condominium or villas.

From their Questions page: "Food and Beverages, On-sight food, beverages, and mixed drinks will be served at our Cabana Tiki Bar for a nominal price. We will serve an array of international and local cuisines for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. A recommended food budget per day is $20-40 USD per person. At the Moment, the Cartagena Condos will only serve beverages on-site. Additionally, several restaurants, pubs, and grocery stores can be found only a short taxi drive away from each location.

Full payment of reservation is required (7) days prior to arrival date.

Black Ops Caribbean doesn't physically own any properties in the Dominican Republic. All accommodations are rented from reputable Dominican based real estate management firms.

Depending upon which package you select, we will then send you a confirmation email stating that particular locations physical address."[/QUOTE]My deal.

$400.

Decent hotel in Sosua.

Walk to bars, clubs and beach and restauranrts.

Your choice of chicas from Classicos, La Passion, Meringue, Latinos, Rhumba.

Change chicas or double up as often as you like.

What else do you need?

Maybe I should get a web site. Aye yi yi!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1150980]Nice website, though, and a standard of literacy that puts every monger board to shame. I am sure Mr Jackson approves of that, at least. The actual writing style is a bit pink and fluffy, rather like the lifestyle articles in those free magazines the superstores stick in women's trolleys.[/QUOTE]The writing stinks like Fabuloso detergent. It is what I used to call "pastel prose" which is the official language of Caribbean tourism. Every breeze is 'balmy', the flowers are 'tropical' and 'lush', the food is 'delicious' and 'spicy', the women are 'sultry', the music is 'tropical', the nights are 'starry', etc, etc.

Instead of writing: "Our place is in a barrio on the edge of town down a rutted road surrounded by abandoned half-built condos. You can get snacks and there is a convenience store a few hundred yards away if you can stand the loud music. If you want a local prostitute, we can pimp one for you."

It is written: "Our luxury condos are situated in a quiet, leafy neighborhood on a tranquil lane in an area of great charm. Light refreshments are available for the discerning gentleman, or you may stroll down hibiscus fringed pathways to the local 'colmado' and share a beverage and a joke with the local residents or sample hand-prepared local delicacies and fresh local cuisine while listening to local folk music known as bachata. Many charming mementos are also available from strolling multilingual vendors who will be happy to show you their wares. Should you require the company of a dusky local beauty who can interpret your every need, we would be happy to effect an introduction to one of our team of sultry, swing-hipped maidens who will introduce you to nightlife Dominican-style. Who knows, if you ask nicely, they may even stay for a tasty, home-cooked breakfast".

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1151220]The writing stinks like Fabuloso detergent. It is what I used to call "pastel prose" which is the official language of Caribbean tourism. Every breeze is 'balmy', the flowers are 'tropical' and 'lush', the food is 'delicious' and 'spicy', the women are 'sultry', the music is 'tropical', the nights are 'starry', etc, etc.

Instead of writing: "Our place is in a barrio on the edge of town down a rutted road surrounded by abandoned half-built condos. You can get snacks and there is a convenience store a few hundred yards away if you can stand the loud music. If you want a local prostitute, we can pimp one for you."

It is written: "Our luxury condos are situated in a quiet, leafy neighborhood on a tranquil lane in an area of great charm. Light refreshments are available for the discerning gentleman, or you may stroll down hibiscus fringed pathways to the local 'colmado' and share a beverage and a joke with the local residents or sample hand-prepared local delicacies and fresh local cuisine while listening to local folk music known as bachata. Many charming mementos are also available from strolling multilingual vendors who will be happy to show you their wares. Should you require the company of a dusky local beauty who can interpret your every need, we would be happy to effect an introduction to one of our team of sultry, swing-hipped maidens who will introduce you to nightlife Dominican-style. Who knows, if you ask nicely, they may even stay for a tasty, home-cooked breakfast". [/QUOTE]LMAO, very funny, good job.

Hey fellas, in addition to being a filthy but proud monger, I am also a degenerate gambler (poker). I know about the casino where After 1 is, but are there other casinos with poker (I can't always find a poker game at the one spot that I know). Can anyone point me in the right direction for poker in Sosua?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1151220]The writing stinks like Fabuloso detergent. It is what I used to call "pastel prose" which is the official language of Caribbean tourism ... etc[/QUOTE]LOL. Very funny, Frannie!

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1151220]The writing stinks like Fabuloso detergent. It is what I used to call "pastel prose" which is the official language of Caribbean tourism. Every breeze is 'balmy', the flowers are 'tropical' and 'lush', the food is 'delicious' and 'spicy', the women are 'sultry', the music is 'tropical', the nights are 'starry', etc, etc.

Instead of writing: "Our place is in a barrio on the edge of town down a rutted road surrounded by abandoned half-built condos. You can get snacks and there is a convenience store a few hundred yards away if you can stand the loud music. If you want a local prostitute, we can pimp one for you."

It is written: "Our luxury condos are situated in a quiet, leafy neighborhood on a tranquil lane in an area of great charm. Light refreshments are available for the discerning gentleman, or you may stroll down hibiscus fringed pathways to the local 'colmado' and share a beverage and a joke with the local residents or sample hand-prepared local delicacies and fresh local cuisine while listening to local folk music known as bachata. Many charming mementos are also available from strolling multilingual vendors who will be happy to show you their wares. Should you require the company of a dusky local beauty who can interpret your every need, we would be happy to effect an introduction to one of our team of sultry, swing-hipped maidens who will introduce you to nightlife Dominican-style. Who knows, if you ask nicely, they may even stay for a tasty, home-cooked breakfast". [/QUOTE]LOL, nice!

Hey Guys How is Sousa Like Around Memorials Day?

I'm THinking about planning a trip to DR later in May, Is there alot of new chicas around that time, Or should I go around July

[QUOTE=Forcesteeler; 1151358]Hey Guys How is Sousa Like Around Memorials Day?

I'm THinking about planning a trip to DR later in May, Is there alot of new chicas around that time, Or should I go around July[/QUOTE]No one can say for certainty. Things were a lot different around this time last year (pre-crackdown). I was in Sosua last May (2010) and although it was not as busy as it was just a couple of month before when i went in March (2010) I still had a blast and the chica parade was still out in full force.

Now it's anyone's guess as to how Memorial Day weekend goes down in Sosua from here on (post crackdown).

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1151230]Hey fellas, in addition to being a filthy but proud monger, I am also a degenerate gambler (poker). I know about the casino where After 1 is, but are there other casinos with poker (I can't always find a poker game at the one spot that I know). Can anyone point me in the right direction for poker in Sosua?[/QUOTE]Don't know about poker. The only casino that I have seen in the DR that has poker was in the capital. I have been to 4 casinos withing proximately to Sosua. After One, Playa Dorado, the old Casino at the east end of Sosua (towards Voramar) and in Cabarete. I don't recall seeing poker in any of them, but then again I wasn't looking for it. I only play craps and black jack.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1151230]Hey fellas, in addition to being a filthy but proud monger, I am also a degenerate gambler (poker). I know about the casino where After 1 is, but are there other casinos with poker (I can't always find a poker game at the one spot that I know). Can anyone point me in the right direction for poker in Sosua?[/QUOTE]Link for Ocean World casino in Cofresi, near Puerto Plata, probably an hour from Sosua: [url]http://www.oceanworld.net/index.cfm[/url]@organization_id=107&section_id=1542. Htm.

"Ocean World Casino is located on the second floor and has already gained the reputation as the most exclusive Casino in the Dominican Republic. Guests can experience Las Vegas gaming in the setting of a true Caribbean paradise. Open daily, guests enjoy a variety of slot machines, table games including Black Jack, Caribbean Stud Poker, Craps. 3 Card Poker, Roulette and Texas Hold 'them all in luxurious surroundings. Complimentary drinks, snacks and cigarettes are available to all players."

Years ago there was a Casino (with a disco type bar) in Cabarete (15 minutes from Sosua) , not sure if it is still open or whether it has Poker.

Lighthouse Bar in Ocean World, I was told was a nice bar, not sure if it is still open.

[QUOTE=Patrk39;1151465], the old Casino at the east end of Sosua (towards Voramar)[/QUOTE]Playa Chiquita Casino, there were signs for that Casino on the roads and it had a disco, where some people went to, after Classicos would close, years ago. These pics if I remember correctly were taken in the disco attached to the playa chiquita casino, sosua.

Ow are you doing my friend. Could've sworn that I posted a reply to you earlier but it seems to have vanished.

Cheers

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1143716]I couldn't agree with you more,

I am as black as they come, and I paid a whopping 3200 pesos, for 4 straight days!

But also add in dinner at new gardens, she had to eat, so to generalize all blacks, is.

Stupid, all blacks don't eat watermelon, or play basketball, but I do. LOL. My spanish.

Is horrible at best, like my typing skills, but a huge at, makes them, tend to forget.

But, this puta did try, to black mail this black male, she told me, if I wanted to keep,

Her away from sosua, I needed to send money, every week, well if thats the case.

That puta needed, to move to sosua, and become governor. But I must admit.

Ivd never had better sex, in my life. And p. S to us real brotha. P. Diddy is wacked,

Tupac or biggie maybe. But point well taken its all about the benjamins! Or.

Pesos. Westside all day everyday. Shoutout to Shockman. [/QUOTE]

Day 2.

Sorry for the delay. My internet was down. Thank you Comcast.

My todo la noches chica did the walk of shame and I headed to Sosua by the Sea to wash and change clothes. I went to the Atm and orange and got me a cell phone. An easy way to see if a girl is puta asks her how she learned English. The girl that worked in orange was smoking hot and she blushed all over me but I wasn't interested. Hopped a motochonco and proceeded to find another chica. Nothing in sight so, I headed to Classicos. The same disappointing selection but I did manage to take plenty of cool photos. The motochonco told me he had a chica. She was in an apartment above a grocery store and barbershop. She was a brown skin cutie (I'll post her picture under brown skin cutie). Arrived at New garden and, my same monger buddy, from the previous night, wanted her too. At the bar was a girl from a previous trip and I actually wanted her more. Well I went in the room and my chica didn't want to do much. I made her leave. She was upset but kcuf her. I got my chica from a previous trip and she knocked my sock off! I'll post her picture under previous chica. She left and I remember I still have my light skin CMP chica's cell phone.

I went to CMP and dropped it off with one of the guys there and told them to tell her I'll be back later. Let my phone number with them for her to call. I walked around ate a burger then proceeded to meet the chica I had meeting me at Barceló Resort in Playa Dorado. She was a short light skin chica with blonde hair. More incompetent workers at these resorts then you can shake a stick at! My room had a TV that didn't work and it dated somewhere in the early 90's. No flat screen, no Jacuzzi, no view nothing! We had sex immediately. She claimed it's been months and judging by her urgency and tightness I wouldn't disagree. Her oral was intense. I'm ok looking but jeez! Was I Clark Gabel to her? We both climaxed off of oral. We ate, watched friends, drank champagne and went to sleep. My light skin CMP chica called me at 12am but I was out cold. 20 times she called and left an anger voice mail.

Day 3.

Woke up and had breakfast. Barcelo has pretty good eggs and cheese. Told my chica I need to go visit my amigos in sosua. I travel alone but I like to say I'm with friends to have a reason to sneak away. She wasn't buying it but I didn't care. Hopped a cab back to Sosua at 11am. Ahhhh! Home sweet home. Went back to new garden and the same two mongers were there lounging but the pool. New garden is hypnotic. A couple of chicas were there hanging out so I sat with them. Very nice and very nice looking. They ordered a spaghetti dinner that had salad and garlic bread with it. I wasn't hungry though they offered multiple times. I took a picture. One was light skinned and the other was brown. I wanted them both. When I asked they gave a [url]awww[/url] Come on sigh but agreed LOL. My motochonco buddy came and ask if I wanted a chica. I agreed. She came back with a girl who didn't want to be treated like puta but I turned her down. Gave him 200 pesos for the introduction and he proceeded to return the merchandise for more goods. Gucci girl arrived and all my threesome action went down hill with the girls with spaghetti. She hogged all my time and then complained about only receiving 1500 pesos for the loven.

I love sosua so much I just walked around enjoying the atmosphere, taking pictures. I decided to go back to barcelo after a while. I called a chica I met online and she lived in costambar. I took a 45 minute cab ride there. Cost me 30 american. She was ok looking, very shy and very thin. Went to a cabana with her and again the tv doesn't work. Is this a practical joke? Made love while looking at it through the mirror on the ceiling then dropped her off. I gave her a 100 pesos for the motochonco and went to barcelo to meet my chica. She was in the room dancing like a 13 year old. I bathed and we ordered a pizza hut pizza. How do you say stuffed crust in Spanish? Not even the front desk knew. Thin crust is it. We ate and made love watching friends. Once again I brought my PS2 to watch dvd's and judging by the cheap as rooms I needed it. Since she was so tight I was unable to rip her a new one but she enjoyed the oral. My CMP chica once again was calling. Lo Siento bonita estoy occupada. Finished the pizza and we laid down at 8pm and I didn't get back up.

Hi I'm planning on going to Sosua in July 2011. I was there about 6 years ago and stayed at the Europa.

There were plenty of chicas and the price I think was around 40US.

How is it for pussy at the minute and at what price. I've read about a crackdown in 2010. Has this blown over yet?

Many thanks Daffy

[QUOTE=Daffy; 1152134]Hi I'm planning on going to Sosua in July 2011. I was there about 6 years ago and stayed at the Europa.

There were plenty of chicas and the price I think was around 40US.

How is it for pussy at the minute and at what price. I've read about a crackdown in 2010. Has this blown over yet?

Many thanks Daffy[/QUOTE]Sosua is the same, and I don't think you'll ever seen a 'crackdown'. I was there recently, and there are thousands of women. I don't like to negotiate or directly ask a chica, 'how much', but I paid 2000 pesos, and they were very happy. One girl actually said 1500, and I said no. 2000. There is so much competition. With the dollar getting almost 38 pesos, you're talking about $53. Be sure to visit La Passion Massage, where the prices are set, and there is some talent. Nice rooms onsite.

These are a few from my April 10th trip.

I had fun. Thats all that matters. I couldn't photo all the girls I was with.

[QUOTE=Shockman; 1151911]Ow are you doing my friend. Could've sworn that I posted a reply to you earlier but it seems to have vanished.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Good, to hear from you, my brother, Man you know,

How to pick the most beautifullest chicas, and you took them, two at a

Time, man you're a beast. LOL. But you left the putas in shock and awe.

I'm heading back to Sosua, from Portland, Or. Aug 23 thru 30th, hope to.

See you again my friend. Deepmmpactt.

Hey Jfregedie, can you please make those pix a little bigger? Thanks.

[QUOTE=M Milone;1152226]Sosua is the same, and I don't think you'll ever seen a 'crackdown'. I was there recently, and there are thousands of women. I don't like to negotiate or directly ask a chica, 'how much', but I paid 2000 pesos, and they were very happy. One girl actually said 1500, and I said no. 2000. There is so much competition. With the dollar getting almost 38 pesos, you're talking about $53. Be sure to visit La Passion Massage, where the prices are set, and there is some talent. Nice rooms onsite.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time. BUT Alot of these chicas will do $1000 ST to $2000 TLN.

More often than not you can get these numbers.

It doesn't matter how much you pay as long as you have a good time.

YES! The crackdown has affected Sosua, but saying that there're chicas to be had at all times during the day.

All the babes you photoed are hot.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1152235]These are a few from my April 10th trip.[/QUOTE]

My final set of chicas. Until July anyway!

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1152529]My final set of chicas. Until July anyway![/QUOTE]Nice reports and photos, thanks for posting. You are one busy beaver in DR, LOL.

Yesterday I got a text from my novia about our mutual friend Naomi, but as usual her spelling sucks so Google's translation was all fucked up.

Now of course it makes sense, and I'm sorry to hear she's dead.

I'll remember that permanent smile, riding proudly on her new bike up and down PC, and only a couple weeks ago proudly showing us her new breast implants.

I'll also remember, as a half drunk newbie, going to a cheap hotel room with her one afternoon, before realizing she was a trannie. We always laughed about that whenever we met, and my novia always jokingly told friends that Naomi was my first true love.

But I also realize that the world she frequented is a dark, dangerous and a more complicated place that that of the average puta, and these thing happen in that world.

Anyway, I hope she is in a place where that smile can go on forever, and we'll always remember her with affection.

Forgive me for crossposting this to the Sosua board.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1152529]My final set of chicas. Until July anyway![/QUOTE]Do you have any contact info for the woman who appears with the red-head sitting at the table together. She looks very familiar? White top. Black hair with glassess.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1152703]Yesterday I got a text from my novia about our mutual friend Naomi, but as usual her spelling sucks so Google's translation was all fucked up.

Now of course it makes sense, and I'm sorry to hear she's dead.

I'll remember that permanent smile, riding proudly on her new bike up and down PC, and only a couple weeks ago proudly showing us her new breast implants.

I'll also remember, as a half drunk newbie, going to a cheap hotel room with her one afternoon, before realizing she was a trannie. We always laughed about that whenever we met, and my novia always jokingly told friends that Naomi was my first true love.

But I also realize that the world she frequented is a dark, dangerous and a more complicated place that that of the average puta, and these thing happen in that world.

Anyway, I hope she is in a place where that smile can go on forever, and we'll always remember her with affection.

Forgive me for crossposting this to the Sosua board.[/QUOTE]Wow, how did she die? I am a regular in El Flow and she always stopped in there on karaoke nights.

There is a chica that frequent sosua. Lite brown, kind of tall, nice body. Has a tattoo of a chain around her neck, a tear below her lip, a tat on her leg and many more. She is always outside marching up and down the block and sometimes in latinos. Who is she? The dj in latinos told me she had a friend and not to talk to her. I figured a transexual. But this wasnt naomi. Naomi pics are online. Very gruesome murder! Naomi looked like a man also. The chica I speak of doesn't. Anybody has intel on her?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1152769]Wow, how did she die? I am a regular in El Flow and she always stopped in there on karaoke nights.[/QUOTE]See "Mr Gogo In The DR" forum for the details. If you knew her well don't look at the pics unless you have a strong stomach.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1152789]There is a chica that frequent sosua. Lite brown, kind of tall, nice body. Has a tattoo of a chain around her neck, a tear below her lip, a tat on her leg and many more. She is always outside marching up and down the block and sometimes in latinos. Who is she? The dj in latinos told me she had a friend and not to talk to her. I figured a transexual. But this wasnt naomi. Naomi pics are online. Very gruesome murder! Naomi looked like a man also. The chica I speak of doesn't. Anybody has intel on her?[/QUOTE]Can't say I've seen that one around.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1152789]There is a chica that frequent sosua. Lite brown, kind of tall, nice body. Has a tattoo of a chain around her neck, a tear below her lip, a tat on her leg and many more. She is always outside marching up and down the block and sometimes in latinos. Who is she? The dj in latinos told me she had a friend and not to talk to her. I figured a transexual. But this wasnt naomi. Naomi pics are online. Very gruesome murder! Naomi looked like a man also. The chica I speak of doesn't. Anybody has intel on her?[/QUOTE]Noooo. You are talking about the one I reported on at the beginning of April. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1142337&viewfull=1#post1142337[/url] She is 100% woman.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1152529]My final set of chicas. Until July anyway![/QUOTE]Great chicas JF, we share very similar desires! Keep them coming!

First off, I owe The DJ at latinos a as whooping! You have no idea how much I wanted her! She was probably the best looking chica I seen there."IMO of course" I spent all night at classicos thinking damn she almost got me. When in actuality she was a she. Player hatin as mofo. Well even more upsetting is I took two pictures of her and deleted them after reading back in feburary about naomi thinking she was naomi. You see when the DJ said she had a friend I figured HIV or something but when I got home I figured she was naomi. I had two very cute pictures. I have to take a trip back just to fuck her! I saw her in April marching up and down the street with short hair this time.

I'm happy you guys dropped all the racism talk that has pledge the boards for weeks. Who cares about black and white on a sex forum? Especially when all the women we are discussing are black.

More sex talk less everything else!

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1152703]Yesterday I got a text from my novia about our mutual friend Naomi, but as usual her spelling sucks so Google's translation was all fucked up.

Now of course it makes sense, and I'm sorry to hear she's dead.

I'll remember that permanent smile, riding proudly on her new bike up and down PC, and only a couple weeks ago proudly showing us her new breast implants.

I'll also remember, as a half drunk newbie, going to a cheap hotel room with her one afternoon, before realizing she was a trannie. We always laughed about that whenever we met, and my novia always jokingly told friends that Naomi was my first true love.

But I also realize that the world she frequented is a dark, dangerous and a more complicated place that that of the average puta, and these thing happen in that world.

Anyway, I hope she is in a place where that smile can go on forever, and we'll always remember her with affection.

Forgive me for crossposting this to the Sosua board.[/QUOTE]I hope Naomi is in a better place now but what a shame. We will probably never know what happened or why but nobody deserves to die like that. I never ever saw her being pushy with anyone and she was always pleasant to talk to. Normally I am VERY uncomfortable around trannies but for some reason I could be sitting next to her in El Flow and not be squirming in my chair, she was cool. There is a monster out there somewhere in Sosua that is for sure.

Joey smith-NO contact info for those chicas but they like to eat at new garden and they frequent seabreeze

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1152907]First off, I owe The DJ at latinos a as whooping! You have no idea how much I wanted her! She was probably the best looking chica I seen there."IMO of course" I spent all night at classicos thinking damn she almost got me. When in actuality she was a she. Player hatin as mofo. Well even more upsetting is I took two pictures of her and deleted them after reading back in feburary about naomi thinking she was naomi.[/QUOTE]Hehehehe. I wish I had taken some pictures of her. Damn. She is highly recommended. But when you hit do not half step. Bring your A game. She is a beast in the sack.

I will be going to Sousa later this month for the first time. What hotel in Sousa gives you the most "bang for your buck" as far as ammenities, location, chica friendlyness, location? I've read the thread and several people have mentioned Rockys and / or Hotel Orchidee. From looking at the websites, I'm not really impressed with either of those. They don't look very upscale at all. Terra Linda looks very nice but also cost 80=100usd per day. I don't mind paying that price if thats the best I can do. The most important thing to me is that I want to be able to bring multiple girls back to my room, fuck the hell out of them, without managment / guests giving me a hard time or charging me extra or threating to kick me out. It would also be nice if the room was upscale, kinda like a 4 star hotel in the united states. Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1153360]I will be going to Sousa later this month for the first time. What hotel in Sousa gives you the most "bang for your buck" as far as ammenities, location, chica friendlyness, location? I've read the thread and several people have mentioned Rockys and / or Hotel Orchidee. From looking at the websites, I'm not really impressed with either of those. They don't look very upscale at all. Terra Linda looks very nice but also cost 80=100usd per day. I don't mind paying that price if thats the best I can do. The most important thing to me is that I want to be able to bring multiple girls back to my room, fuck the hell out of them, without managment / guests giving me a hard time or charging me extra or threating to kick me out. It would also be nice if the room was upscale, kinda like a 4 star hotel in the united states. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Rocky's or Orchidee upscale? Of course not, they charge $25. And $30. For their rooms, that in itself should tell you everything you need to know as there isn't a 4 star anywhere on the planet earth for that price. I recommend the new wing section of the New Garden $74. A night if paid in cash.

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1153360]I will be going to Sousa later this month for the first time. What hotel in Sousa gives you the most "bang for your buck" as far as ammenities, location, chica friendlyness, location? I've read the thread and several people have mentioned Rockys and / or Hotel Orchidee. From looking at the websites, I'm not really impressed with either of those. They don't look very upscale at all. Terra Linda looks very nice but also cost 80=100usd per day. I don't mind paying that price if thats the best I can do. The most important thing to me is that I want to be able to bring multiple girls back to my room, fuck the hell out of them, without managment / guests giving me a hard time or charging me extra or threating to kick me out. It would also be nice if the room was upscale, kinda like a 4 star hotel in the united states. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Hotel Europa is very close to action. Rooms are generally clean although starwise I will give it 2 star. Sometimes the problem is the lady at the front desk allows only one girl at a time.

They do have apartments on the opposite side. I have stayed there many times. Some are very nice. They do have a guard there. But most of the time you can sneak in as many girls as you want. The price for apartments were $30 / night. You can bargain also.

Only 4 star and 5 star accomodations you get are all inclusive resorts. They are not girl friendly but will allow the girl if you pay fee for the girl per day for food and staying.

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1153360]I will be going to Sousa later this month for the first time. What hotel in Sousa gives you the most "bang for your buck" as far as ammenities, location, chica friendlyness, location? I've read the thread and several people have mentioned Rockys and / or Hotel Orchidee. From looking at the websites, I'm not really impressed with either of those. They don't look very upscale at all. Terra Linda looks very nice but also cost 80=100usd per day. I don't mind paying that price if thats the best I can do. The most important thing to me is that I want to be able to bring multiple girls back to my room, fuck the hell out of them, without managment / guests giving me a hard time or charging me extra or threating to kick me out. It would also be nice if the room was upscale, kinda like a 4 star hotel in the united states. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]I am no Sosúa expert so I will let other guys recommend specific hotels, but it is seems obvious you expect too much. You want an upscale hotel but you don't want to pay an upscale price. You want an upscale hotel but you want to party with multiple putas like a rock-star. It should be obvious to you that the more classy places, like Residencial or Waterfront, will expect their guests to behave decently.

That does not invalidate your question but it is clearly a question of the best compromise rather than ticking all your boxes with 10 out of 10.

For comfort and privacy certain villas would fill the bill, but to afford those within your apparent budget you would need to share with friends. (If you have any).

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1153360]It would also be nice if the room was upscale, kinda like a 4 star hotel in the United States.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sammon;1153468]Hotel Europa is very close to action.[/QUOTE]You have a dry sense of humor, Sammon. The Europa, LOL.

[QUOTE=DrSexalot;1153360]I will be going to Sousa later this month for the first time. What hotel in Sousa gives you the most "bang for your buck" as far as ammenities, location, chica friendlyness, location? I've read the thread and several people have mentioned Rockys and / or Hotel Orchidee. From looking at the websites, I'm not really impressed with either of those. They don't look very upscale at all. Terra Linda looks very nice but also cost 80=100usd per day. I don't mind paying that price if thats the best I can do. The most important thing to me is that I want to be able to bring multiple girls back to my room, fuck the hell out of them, without managment / guests giving me a hard time or charging me extra or threating to kick me out. It would also be nice if the room was upscale, kinda like a 4 star hotel in the united states. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]During off season the monger friendly part of the Sosua Bay Hotel, might be under $100 per night. I don't like the Italian owner of the Sosua Bay Hotel (Armando).

Condominium apartments are another way to go. El Neptuno, two bedroom, two bathrooms are nice, (located near Sosua Bay Hotel / Victorian House). Tradewinds apartments (one bedroom) are nice for the money, but Tradewinds is not in the center of Sosua. Tradewinds apartments can be rented from Marco at Rockys.

Photos from years ago.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1153368]Rocky's or Orchidee upscale? Of course not, they charge $25. And $30. For their rooms, that in itself should tell you everything you need to know as there isn't a 4 star anywhere on the planet earth for that price. I recommend the new wing section of the New Garden $74. A night if paid in cash.[/QUOTE]PM me and I will give you the skinny in this place. I have something available in your price range. This what you are looking for and the other guys are right by the way.

I'm heading to Sosua May 21. May 29th. I was thinking about staying@Don Antonio for a few days. How do you guys rate that place over Rocky's? I'm a little torn between the two for my first few nights there.

This will be my first time in Sosua, DR for my bday and I'm planning to be there in July. I'm staying at the Sosua Bay Club and I have a few questions.

1. Does Sosua Bay Club allow you to bring guest?

2. Do girls let you take pics of them in clubs, on the street, on the beach, in the room?

3. How do the girls look? I like them with nice size beast, slim, decent size ass, and pretty face.

4. Where's the best place to meet them?

5. Do they hangout at the beach?

I will be in Sosua, DR for the first time for my 30th birthday in July. I'm staying at the Sosua Bay Club, and I have few questions is anyone can help me out.

1. Does Sosua Bay Club allow me to bring guests?

2. Will girls let me take pictures of them on the street, in the clubs, on the beach, and in the bedroom?

3. Where would be a nice spot to celebrate my birthday?

4. Do they still have the bikini contest at New Garden on Sundays?

5. How do the girls look down there? I like them slim with a pretty face, and either big breast or big a$$ or both.

6. What beach have pretty ladies that hangout there?

Thanks

I do short excursions. I don't stay as long because I get home sick very easy. Plus after about 2 days I'm all tapped out. When I was in Boca chic back in December, I stayed for 6 days and regretted it. Which is also why I hate staying at resorts with chicas. THey try to hinder your fun. They're Clingy, selfish, Jealous and greedy.

Woke up about 7am and my chica attacked me like a horny gorilla. Completely took advantaged of me. Afterwards we ate breakfast and took some pictures. Check out at barcelo is at 1pm but I still need to check out of New garden and Sosua by the sea. One last shower, changed clothes, big kiss and we checked out. I gave my chica a 80 dollar perfume set I brought in miami. I gave her money for her sick madre in the hospital "I know it was bull" and a vacation, from working at a nail salon, in a 5 star hotel. She wanted me to pay her taxi too. I declined but had my driver drop her off at the plaza in walking distance from barcelo and proceeded to sosua. My cabby popped in a Cd and the song took me by surprise. The emotion I felt summed up my whole trip and pretty much my feelings about sosua and the DR. Eliane Elias-Manhattan. Probably the most beautiful song I've every heard. It suited the moment wonderfully as we drove from playa dorada to sosua. I brought the Cd from the Driver.

Reached sosua about 11 and proceeded to new garden. The usual suspects but check out isn't until 1230? So I lingered around hoping for one last shot. No such luck. I walked around and took it all in. I love this place! Well I went to sosua by the sea, after not being there the entire trip, and was reminded how stupid the staff was. Usually the hotel contacts your ride to the airport and knows when your departing right? My last two did. Well they didn't and refused to call unless I paid 10 pesos a minute. I asked for a internet card to go online but they refuse to accept payment via card credit. Then the damn internet service was down when I arrive to use it. I squared everything away and noticed I still had 45 minutes so I walked back to El flow. Nothing much happening so I took pictures of everything. Cab showed up at 1pm. 15 ride to the airport and my flight left at.

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1153884]I will be in Sosua, DR for the first time for my 30th birthday in July. I'm staying at the Sosua Bay Club, and I have few questions is anyone can help me out.

[quote]1. Does Sosua Bay Club allow me to bring guests?[/QUOTE]Yes, but you must register them with the tourist police for your safety and make sure you get a signed receipt.

[quote]2. Will girls let me take pictures of them on the street, in the clubs, on the beach, and in the bedroom?[/QUOTE]Yes, but film only. Digital cameras don't work in the DR.

[quote]3. Where would be a nice spot to celebrate my birthday?[/QUOTE]Chuck e Cheeze.

[quote]4. Do they still have the bikini contest at New Garden on Sundays?[/QUOTE]Yes, but you need to register in advance and pay the fee to the guard out front. $20 USD.

[quote]5. How do the girls look down there? I like them slim with a pretty face, and either big breast or big a$$ or both.[/QUOTE]Down where? Most look like Fidel if U-turn your head a certain way, but some others might resemble a clam. I haven't seen too many slim girls with big A$$'es.

6. What beach have pretty ladies that hangout there? [/QUOTE]The ones on the Pacific side of the Island.

Hope that was helpful.

Thanks

I was watching Mad Money tonight. Jim Cramer had an interesting interview with the CEO of Zoo Travel, which has seen tremendous upturn recently in stock valuation. I was curious about the stock and company and found some wonderful deals in Sosua.

Casa Marina Beach Resort is having a huge sale. They're offering deals from $26. $59 per night for 3 star accommodations. For this price you really can't beat it. Its location is great and only a few blocks away from all the Sosua action. But bringing chica's into the resort may cost extra and provide an inconvenience factor.

It's a great idea for an extended 1 on 1 with your novia, but not for the warrior monger. Plenty of deals to be had in Sosua.

$26. Dominican Republic All-Inclusive Resort. 45% Off*

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Travelzoo Staff, New York. Updated 5/4/2011.

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[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1154240]Yes, but you need to register in advance and pay the fee to the guard out front. $20 USD.[/QUOTE]LOL. Good post CH and about what the OP deserved. You had me fooled with your first answer until I read on and realised you were taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. (Do they say that in the USA?)

It did remind me of the last time I entered the New Garden though. I normally avoid the place. Something about the layout of the place reminds me of an open prison or mental hospital (and some of the guests reinforce those ideas) but on this occasion I went round there to meet someone I had exchanged friendly posts with and who wanted to meet me.

Wandered in, sat down, ordered a round for all at the table, and two security guards came over and demanded 1000 peso cover fee as a non-resident. I am not suggesting the management devised or condoned this attempted scam but they are responsible for the actions of their security staff.

Needless to say that hotel has not received a peso from me since at the bar. Anyone else I meet we do it any venue in Sosúa except there.

2. Will girls let me take pictures of them on the street, in the clubs, on the beach, and in the bedroom?

"Yes, but film only. Digital cameras don't work in the DR."

Go digital all the way. Only been to Sosua twice, but have over 300 digital photos. Most important, ask the girls first!

3. Where would be a nice spot to celebrate my birthday?

"Chuck e Cheeze."

Depends on your taste, Passion and Classico are quite different venues. You could do Passion in the afternoon and Classico in the evening; would be a nice blow out birthday.

4. Do they still have the bikini contest at New Garden on Sundays?

"Yes, but you need to register in advance and pay the fee to the guard out front. $20 USD."

It is not every Sunday, last time I was there it was once a month, and it is 20 bucks for hotel guests. Just e-mail the hotel and they will let you know.

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1153884]I will be in Sosua, DR for the first time for my 30th birthday in July. I'm staying at the Sosua Bay Club, and I have few questions is anyone can help me out.

1. Does Sosua Bay Club allow me to bring guests?[/quote]Yes, in their guest friendly wing. Ask for it.

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1153884]2. Will girls let me take pictures of them on the street, in the clubs, on the beach, and in the bedroom?[/quote]Most will. Be nice, shower them with compliments.

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1153884]3. Where would be a nice spot to celebrate my birthday?[/quote]Classicos, ofcourse.

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1153884]4. Do they still have the bikini contest at New Garden on Sundays?[/quote]They still have them. Not sure what days. Just go and ask.

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1153884]5. How do the girls look down there? I like them slim with a pretty face, and either big breast or big a$$ or both.[/quote]All kinds. Its like this you like them or you don't. Or you soon learn to like them.

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1153884]6. What beach have pretty ladies that hangout there?[/quote]There is only one beach. And pickings are slim these days, if you get a local to go with you he can spot them for you but its going to be tough to get rid of him. Actually, I have seen quite a few charamaico hotties there, but many of them are "barely legal", so use your big head.

Thanks

[quote=amb832; 1153884]i will be in sosua, dr for the first time for my 30th birthday in july. i'm staying at the sosua bay club, and i have few questions is anyone can help me out.

6. what beach have pretty ladies that hangout there?

there is only one beach. and pickings are slim these days, if you get a local to go with you he can spot them for you but its going to be tough to get rid of him. actually, i have seen quite a few charamaico hotties there, but many of them are "barely legal", so use your big head.

thanks[/quote]speaking of "barely legal" chicas, i was actually wondering has anyone ever gotten in legal trouble for unknowingly fooling around with a chica under 18? i am not a **** and the thought of messing around with a kid doesn't turn me on in the least. but these days, you just can't always tell! i saw this one girl in the southern us a few months ago and i was like "wow. i want to pound that nice round ass right now!" so, i asked about her and as it turns out, she was 14. ouch. so, how do you avoid the jailbait in sousa? with all the money to be made from "hookin'," i'm sure that their are several **** girls out on the prowl. do you guys card every girl you see? even if you do, i'm sure that there are lots of fake ids.

i suppose one of the biggest advantages of going to bb, or passions is that you wouldn't have to worry about that stuff.

[quote=drsexalot; 1154789]speaking of "barely legal" chicas, i was actually wondering has anyone ever gotten in legal trouble for unknowingly fooling around with a chica under 18? i am not a **** and the thought of messing around with a kid doesn't turn me on in the least. but these days, you just can't always tell! i saw this one girl in the southern us a few months ago and i was like "wow. i want to pound that nice round ass right now!" so, i asked about her and as it turns out, she was 14. ouch. so, how do you avoid the jailbait in sousa? with all the money to be made from "hookin'," i'm sure that their are several **** girls out on the prowl. do you guys card every girl you see? even if you do, i'm sure that there are lots of fake ids.

i suppose one of the biggest advantages of going to bb, or passions is that you wouldn't have to worry about that stuff. [/quote]unknowingly many people must have had sex with **** girls. it is not something people discuss.

many girls who are **** do not have id. some have fake i. the. the people at the hotel checking are not really bothered. they just glance at the id only.

long time ago i met a girl in sosua. very pretty girl with big boobs. i was pretty drunk because i was having a good luck at the casino gambling. i casually asked her how old she was when i complimented on her tight body and perky stand up boobs. she was she is 17. needless to say i left in a hurry. i saw her again the next night at the same bar. but i ignored her.

yes, there are set ups involving young girls. to protect yourself tell the security at the hotel to make sure the girl is over 18. do not go to her place or her suggested place. pay money and get out of trouble if in the morning she threatens or yells [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. there are scams involving threats of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] as well.

set ups are not prevalent in sosua luckily.

i know there are people who kicked girls out unceremoniously but i would suggest gentle approach and not get police involved.

[quote=drsexalot; 1154789]speaking of "barely legal" chicas, i was actually wondering has anyone ever gotten in legal trouble for unknowingly fooling around with a chica under 18? i am not a **** and the thought of messing around with a kid doesn't turn me on in the least. but these days, you just can't always tell! i saw this one girl in the southern us a few months ago and i was like "wow. i want to pound that nice round ass right now!" so, i asked about her and as it turns out, she was 14. ouch. so, how do you avoid the jailbait in sousa? with all the money to be made from "hookin'," i'm sure that their are several **** girls out on the prowl. do you guys card every girl you see? even if you do, i'm sure that there are lots of fake ids.

i suppose one of the biggest advantages of going to bb, or passions is that you wouldn't have to worry about that stuff.[/quote]i card almost all of them except the ones that are clearly over 18. when in doubt, card them. i do this for my wingmen too as i speak spanish. some of the chicas will use their friend, sister, mother's id, etc. look closely at the photo on their cedulas (pronounced like: said-you-lah) the government issued cedulas are actually fairly well done by american standards. if the cedula appears damaged or altered, toss her. if she looks young and claims she lost her id, toss her. many of the night security staff at the chica friendly hotels in town will not let her in without a cedula or if they think its not her i'd. plus, the younger chicas generally aren't as much fun as a slighter older ones in their early 20's, for the most part. ymmv. be safe.

[quote=drsexalot; 1154789]speaking of "barely legal" chicas, i was actually wondering has anyone ever gotten in legal trouble for unknowingly fooling around with a chica under 18? i am not a **** and the thought of messing around with a kid doesn't turn me on in the least. but these days, you just can't always tell! i saw this one girl in the southern us a few months ago and i was like "wow. i want to pound that nice round ass right now!" so, i asked about her and as it turns out, she was 14. ouch. so, how do you avoid the jailbait in sousa? with all the money to be made from "hookin'," i'm sure that their are several **** girls out on the prowl. do you guys card every girl you see? even if you do, i'm sure that there are lots of fake ids.

i suppose one of the biggest advantages of going to bb, or passions is that you wouldn't have to worry about that stuff.[/quote]i like my chicas as young as legally available, but you are right that ages can be deceptive and that there are lots of fake ids around. young girls could easily borrow their big sisters cedula (with or without her knowledge) and chicas are rarely recognizable from the pictures on their cedula.

so my answer is, in the absence of other reliable evidence, to leave a "safety margin" and go for chicas who look at least 22.

i imagine it is extremely rare for anyone to get into trouble for having sex with post-pubescent chicas where both parties were willing, but your big danger is getting "set up" by the chica along with her chulo / or a bent cop / or a bent lawyer. however unlikely that may be, the consequences are so severe, and your chances of pleading innocence so remote, that you should never chance it.

you are right. that is a plus point for blackbeards and passions. possibly i would trust cristal and el bohen to screen their employees too, but i cannot think of anywhere else on the north coast that i would blindly trust offhand. many popular venues routinely employ **** chicas and make them available for salida.

[quote=sammon; 1154798]unknowingly many people must have had sex with **** girls. it is not something people discuss.

many girls who are **** do not have i. d. some have fake i. the. the people at the hotel checking are not really bothered. they just glance at the i. d only.

long time ago i met a girl in sosua. very pretty girl with big boobs. i was pretty drunk because i was having a good luck at the casino gambling. we struck a deal. she told me she was staying at in pp at a motel. i stayed with her till next afternoon and we had a real good time. i casually asked her how old she was when i complimented on her tight body and perky stand up boobs. she was she is 17. needless to say i left in a hurry. i saw her again the next night at the same bar. but i ignored her.

yes, there are set ups involving young girls. to protect yourself tell the security at the hotel to make sure the girl is over 18. do not go to her place or her suggested place. pay money and get out of trouble if in the morning she threatens or yells [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. there are scams involving threats of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] as well.

set ups are not prevalent in sosua luckily.

i know there are people who kicked girls out unceremoniously but i would suggest gentle approach and not get police involved.[/quote]thanks for all the responses! so i guess what you guys are saying is that one can get in trouble in sousa for having sex with an **** girl but that it rarely happens. true? that would seem to make sence since these girls are "working" to make money that they desperatly need. so why would they want to get the police involved?

for what its worth, i supose i'll attempt to id every girl as well. as for as only have sex with girls that look older than 21, attempting to do that would be very hit or miss. when dealing with women of african / latin decent, as i stated earlier, once some of these girls turn 15, 16, its damn near impossible to tell how old they are by looks alone. there asses and tatas are so big / round / curvy they could just as well be 23, 24, 25. plus you would miss out on a lot of good pussy.

[quote=drsexalot;1154812]thanks for all the responses! so i guess what you guys are saying is that one can get in trouble in sousa for having sex with an **** girl but that it rarely happens. true?[/quote]the one thing in the guys have in common that have been busted is pictures. i know more than one person jailed in foreign country and the pics got them every time. one had pics on his computer, one was dumb enough to post them on monger board and got busted. both paid very large amount of money in bribes for their freedom.

as the pooter has stated best policy is looks 22 but if she looks 18 and has i'd don't take any nudies.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1154834]The one thing in the guys have in common that have been busted is pictures. I know more than one person Jailed in foreign country and the pics got them every time. One had pics on his computer, one was dumb enough to post them on monger board and got busted. Both paid very large amount of money in bribes for their freedom.

As the Pooter has stated best policy is looks 22 but if she looks 18 and has I'd don't take any nudies. [/QUOTE]This is the one and only reason why I do not post picture from Thailand or the DR.

Beaverhunter

thanks for everyone's response.

as for as taking pics of chicks i always make convo with them, be nice and respectful to them then ask if i can take their picture. i don't like sneaking around taking candid pics of girls and if i get caught she would make a big scene. yea. if she look too young to me i'll probably would take a pic.

does la passion allow you to bring cameras inside?

i'll be careful since i'll be going solo.

wondering have a chick ever threaten to scream "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]" cause she wanted more money then yall agreed on?

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1144187]I'm betting this trend will reverse now that the New Sosua is in full effect. Brothas don't dig the whole "Euro Vibe" as you see where it has gotten us in the New Sosua. Brothas don't go to the beach just to lay around in the sun baking like beached whales; when brothas go to the beach that want to see tits and ass in bikinis. Having the beach in Sosua was nice, but I don't know of any brothas (including myself) that would hang there. I had two bros take me to the beach once. We walked from one end to the next and that was enough for me. It's a tourist trap and we were smart enough to avoid it. I'm thinking if the beach was elsewhere, the old Sosua would still be there running on all four cylinders.

Also, only with Americans do you see blacks, whites, asians, etc. (and even Canadians!) all hanging together and trading chica stories with no problems. The Euros don't like mixing it up with the brothas (trust me, I've seen this up close and personal just asking about the menu at NG) , so brothas will start to do their own thing elsewhere. Only the young knucleheads in our community that haven't yet gotten the memo or are too lazy to pick up Spanish will be stuck in the Sosua Cycle. I for one will not be taking my black ass back there anytime soon.

I personally know too many brothas that have been navigating the island behind the scenes for years and know to keep their mouths shut. The game is to be sold, not to be told.[/QUOTE]This was something I saw coming several years ago and I remember wanting to enjoy Sosua as much as possible before the wife beater crew would come along and "make it rain" in Clasicos. When I first came to the Puerto Plata area, the novelty was still there and you felt like Michael Jordan walking the streets. It didn't take much effort to get some ass by just hanging out with a chica and showing her a good time. The internet spreading trip reports and pics, now Youtube vids, and cheap flights from places like NYC on carriers like Jet Blue pretty much changed the scenery. It wasn't this dramatic but it reminded me of how I saw the US housing crisis forming before me as cheap available money / loans changed neighborhoods.

As far as overpaying, what do you expect when you have people with a pocket full of money and nothing to offer (not even convo) but their money and they often rationalize by saying "well its about what it would cost back in the ATL." These are the same folks that teach people in these other countries about propinas. In CR, the white guys on pensions had this same effect on the putanomics and economy, in general.

I also agree with the statement about white guys probably preferring other destinations because of the type of women and I would add the availability of resources. As some of you know, Sosua pales in comparison to the talent in other parts of the DR. In fact, I've had better looking Dominicanas in CR than Sosua. I think many of the older AA Mongers that have loot still travel to Rio, which is head and shoulders above Sosua in terms of talent. White guys tend to like the lighter skin and Asian babes so they go to those places. A place like the Del Rey in CR crushes anything I've seen in the DR in terms of diversity and talent level. MDE is also big now and the women tend to be much finer than what you will find in a place like Sosua.

Some of the places cost a lot more and take longer to get to, which may not make them as desirable to some people. However, when you go to these others places you tend to see a lot more white guys and they tend to have loot and maybe even own business. You see some blacks as well in this same mode. But whites tend to have the numbers which probably shouldn't be a surprise when you consider the economics here in the USA. When I say white, I'm talking about Americans only.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]She finally picked up the 1000 pesos and walked out the door. I took a shower and went to sleep.[/QUOTE]Good job; I've been there many times, myself, LOL

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1146188]I walked back to the ice cream spot but the chicas have dispersed. One of the motochonco guys drove me to la passions which had a very disappointing selection. Three girls and they seemed less likely to perform so I declined. One asked me how many chicas you need. I said 10 and all at once. Big laugh! The same motochonco guy told me he had a good chica. And he did! She was a stallion! Big ass and breast. Came in my room at new garden washed up and got to it. She did a reverse cowgirl that was amazing. I came in her mouth.[/QUOTE]Hey Jfreg,

I searched your posts and never saw the pic of "cow girl." Did I miss it somewhere? She sounds like my type of girl, big ass, big breasts, and she lets you cum in her mouth. You can't beat that! BTW, how do you ask a girl if you can cum in her mouth in spanish."leche in la boca?"?

I also agree with the statement about white guys probably preferring other destinations because of the type of women and I would add the availability of resources. As some of you know, Sosua pales in comparison to the talent in other parts of the DR. In fact, I've had better looking Dominicanas in CR than Sosua. I think many of the older AA Mongers that have loot still travel to Rio, which is head and shoulders above Sosua in terms of talent. White guys tend to like the lighter skin and Asian babes so they go to those places. A place like the Del Rey in CR crushes anything I've seen in the DR in terms of diversity and talent level. MDE is also big now and the women tend to be much finer than what you will find in a place like Sosua.

Some of the places cost a lot more and take longer to get to, which may not make them as desirable to some people. However, when you go to these others places you tend to see a lot more white guys and they tend to have loot and maybe even own business. You see some blacks as well in this same mode. But whites tend to have the numbers which probably shouldn't be a surprise when you consider the economics here in the USA. When I say white, I'm talking about Americans only. [/QUOTE]I see your new and welcome. You went back in the forum to reply to a convo about race, that had been covered. Atlest you spent some time reading the forum thats more than I can say about most new members.

But to say the Del Ray in Costa Rica crushes Sosua, I don't concur. Del Ray is more diverse because they ship in talent from other countries. But most of these girls ask for 100usd an hour before giving you their name. In sosua you get a girl for 80usd all night. In Del Ray the girls look and act trashy, with a strickly business attitude. In Sosua at night the girls have that spanish style that comes with sexual energy. Del Ray girls mostly do CBJ, in Sosua they mostly do NCB.

Most of the older AA that travel to Rio now, have some kind of permanent connection. Living there, wife, kids, buisinesses, speak the language, regular girlfriends etc. I don't see anybody going there now with the close of help and 4x4, and with the crackdown in preparation for the World Cup and Olympics. Thats why the MDE board is hot and the Sosua board has alot of ex Brazilian guys, they are looking for the next brazil. These ex Brazil guys are mentally fucked up because they are looking for the next "fuck fest". But it came and went with Brazil.

MDE is my favorite spot in the world, but its not the old brazil. But most brothers won't do well there. Some brothers as you say"like walking around feeling like Michael Jordan", that won't fly in MDE. MDE women are the finest I have ever seen as a group and have a unique style. You can't make eye contact in MDE and be fucking thirty minutes later. In fact the women won't pay brothers any attention, and most brothers will take this as a hit to their ego's. Sure you have the casas, strip clubs, and the internet to meet fine chicas for sex, but outside these venues brothers won't like MDE. My regulars in MDE do low key things to fly under the radar and to respect the city. We don't go on dinner dates, we order a pizza. We don't walk down the street holding hands, we stay in the house watching TV and fucking. MDE doesn't like its trash being paraded around. Low key is the way and we will see how this developes. But bringing to much attention to yourself in MDE will get you fucked up.

Thanks for the reply my brodder. Nothing compares to you my friend. You had 'them eating out of your hand.

Too bad our paths are not going to cross. I just got back from a 10 day trip there and will be returning for a month starting the 7th of Sept.

Next time let's coordinate buddy. It's great to hang with you.

Peace and Love,

Shockman.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1152274]Good, to hear from you, my brother, Man you know,

How to pick the most beautifullest chicas, and you took them, two at a

Time, man you're a beast. LOL. But you left the putas in shock and awe.

I'm heading back to Sosua, from Portland, Or. Aug 23 thru 30th, hope to.

See you again my friend. Deepmmpactt.[/QUOTE]

My first trip to Rio De Janeiro was the year after help was closed during carnival. There was still alot of pretty ladies sunbathing and chillin at Meia Pataca. I met a couple of folks from the US and England that been going for years when Help was there and they all comment on how it's not what it use to be. I was surprised alot of people was complaining and some was mad in some cases. Since that was my first time going I had a wonderful time. Maybe if I went to Rio when help was open and after it was closed I may have been alittle disappointed too. There's other places that pops up, but they're tend to be too small and its the same desperate folks there.

I'm black and heading to Sosua for the first time. I'm not a wifebeater or make it rain in the club person. Just a person who like to travel and experience new things. So I'm guess by reading a few reports majority of the ladies don't like black men or if I'm not flashy with my money or the ladies would jack up the price cause I'm black. .

Hope I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1155893]I also agree with the statement about white guys probably preferring other destinations because of the type of women and I would add the availability of resources. As some of you know, Sosua pales in comparison to the talent in other parts of the DR. In fact, I've had better looking Dominicanas in CR than Sosua. NEVER HAVE I EXPERIENCED BETTER DOMINICAN! CHICAS IN CR!

But to say the Del Ray in Costa Rica crushes Sosua, I don't concur. Del Ray is more diverse because they ship in talent from other countries. But most of these girls ask for 100usd an hour before giving you their name. In sosua you get a girl for 80usd all night. In Del Ray the girls look and act trashy, with a strickly business attitude. DEL RAY CHICAS ARE HARD ASS, POOR PROVIDER! In Sosua at night the girls have that spanish style that comes with sexual energy. Del Ray girls mostly do CBJ, in Sosua they mostly do NCB. TRUE!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1155381]This was something I saw coming several years ago and I remember wanting to enjoy Sosua as much as possible before the wife beater crew would come along and "make it rain" in Clasicos. When I first came to the Puerto Plata area, the novelty was still there and you felt like Michael Jordan walking the streets. It didn't take much effort to get some ass by just hanging out with a chica and showing her a good time. The internet spreading trip reports and pics, now Youtube vids, and cheap flights from places like NYC on carriers like Jet Blue pretty much changed the scenery. It wasn't this dramatic but it reminded me of how I saw the US housing crisis forming before me as cheap available money / loans changed neighborhoods.

As far as overpaying, what do you expect when you have people with a pocket full of money and nothing to offer (not even convo) but their money and they often rationalize by saying "well its about what it would cost back in the ATL." These are the same folks that teach people in these other countries about propinas. In CR, the white guys on pensions had this same effect on the putanomics and economy, in general.

I also agree with the statement about white guys probably preferring other destinations because of the type of women and I would add the availability of resources. As some of you know, Sosua pales in comparison to the talent in other parts of the DR. In fact, I've had better looking Dominicanas in CR than Sosua. I think many of the older AA Mongers that have loot still travel to Rio, which is head and shoulders above Sosua in terms of talent. White guys tend to like the lighter skin and Asian babes so they go to those places. A place like the Del Rey in CR crushes anything I've seen in the DR in terms of diversity and talent level. MDE is also big now and the women tend to be much finer than what you will find in a place like Sosua.

Some of the places cost a lot more and take longer to get to, which may not make them as desirable to some people. However, when you go to these others places you tend to see a lot more white guys and they tend to have loot and maybe even own business. You see some blacks as well in this same mode. But whites tend to have the numbers which probably shouldn't be a surprise when you consider the economics here in the USA. When I say white, I'm talking about Americans only. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1155893]I see your new and welcome. You went back in the forum to reply to a convo about race, that had been covered. Atlest you spent some time reading the forum thats more than I can say about most new members.

But to say the Del Ray in Costa Rica crushes Sosua, I don't concur. Del Ray is more diverse because they ship in talent from other countries. But most of these girls ask for 100usd an hour before giving you their name. In sosua you get a girl for 80usd all night. In Del Ray the girls look and act trashy, with a strickly business attitude. In Sosua at night the girls have that spanish style that comes with sexual energy. Del Ray girls mostly do CBJ, in Sosua they mostly do NCB.

Most of the older AA that travel to Rio now, have some kind of permanent connection. Living there, wife, kids, buisinesses, speak the language, regular girlfriends etc. I don't see anybody going there now with the close of help and 4x4, and with the crackdown in preparation for the World Cup and Olympics. Thats why the MDE board is hot and the Sosua board has alot of ex Brazilian guys, they are looking for the next brazil. These ex Brazil guys are mentally fucked up because they are looking for the next "fuck fest". But it came and went with Brazil.

MDE is my favorite spot in the world, but its not the old brazil. But most brothers won't do well there. Some brothers as you say"like walking around feeling like Michael Jordan", that won't fly in MDE. MDE women are the finest I have ever seen as a group and have a unique style. You can't make eye contact in MDE and be fucking thirty minutes later. In fact the women won't pay brothers any attention, and most brothers will take this as a hit to their ego's. Sure you have the casas, strip clubs, and the internet to meet fine chicas for sex, but outside these venues brothers won't like MDE. My regulars in MDE do low key things to fly under the radar and to respect the city. We don't go on dinner dates, we order a pizza. We don't walk down the street holding hands, we stay in the house watching TV and fucking. MDE doesn't like its trash being paraded around. Low key is the way and we will see how this developes. But bringing to much attention to yourself in MDE will get you fucked up. [/QUOTE]Good post Mr. Gogo. I had to check the date on my original posting. Yep, posted back on April 11th, LOL.

But same here: No none I've talked to are going down to Rio strictly for P4P. Not when garotas de programma are asking for (and receiving) $200usd+ per night. And this is outside of the termas. I am absolutely positive I could bang strippers at home for about that much and save myself $1000+ and 14+ hrs just to do the same thing in Rio. Economically it makes no sense to me, but I'm not one to tell a man what to do with his money.

I'm still scratching my head over the attraction of CR. $100-150usd per hour and CBJ is the same thing you can get in your own backyard, LOL.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1155381]
As some of you know, Sosua pales in comparison to the talent in other parts of the DR. [/QUOTE]

No argument with you there. If anyone doubts this statement then just take a look at the photos Jaosousa posted of the Eagle Sports Bar chicas in Santo Domingo (I don't think they are pros though).

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1156062]My first trip to Rio De Janeiro was the year after help was closed during carnival. There was still alot of pretty ladies sunbathing and chillin at Meia Pataca. I met a couple of folks from the US and England that been going for years when Help was there and they all comment on how it's not what it use to be. I was surprised alot of people was complaining and some was mad in some cases. Since that was my first time going I had a wonderful time. Maybe if I went to Rio when help was open and after it was closed I may have been alittle disappointed too. There's other places that pops up, but they're tend to be too small and its the same desperate folks there.

I'm black and heading to Sosua for the first time. I'm not a wifebeater or make it rain in the club person. Just a person who like to travel and experience new things. So I'm guess by reading a few reports majority of the ladies don't like black men or if I'm not flashy with my money or the ladies would jack up the price cause I'm black. .

Hope I'm wrong. [/QUOTE]Depending on what you want and how you want it, it doesn't matter if your black,

Yeah everybody says it "green" the color of money but that's everywhere, big deal.

I'm black second trip to DR, main base Sousa, because the condo I stay in is close to everything, and has view of the ocean.

I joined DominicanCupid. Com before I got here so I had about 10 to 15 contacts from Santo Domingo to La Vega and Sanitago.

I settled on 3, 1 from Santo Domingo I went there to meet her and family had a great time, I was disappointed with the Zona Colonial, thougt it would be more like the old town in Cartagena, Colombia, but nice to see a different part of DR, liked the Monument in Sanitago where I had a evening date with another women.

The other from Santiago didn't want to wait and visited me here in Sousa, nice girl but I liked the other two better, more relaxed and nice, less hoochie about them.

I've been here a month, research for retirement, speak a bit more then basic spanish but avoided the Sousa woman not my style, so if you want to do some work, it's worth it for me, but you'll have no problem getting attention or offers, for what amount I can't say I didn't partake, but from what I saw of the black guys dragging girls back to the condo day and night, they were getting all the attention they could handle

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1156151]Depending on what you want and how you want it, it doesn't matter if your black,

Yeah everybody says it "green" the color of money but that's everywhere, big deal.

I'm black second trip to DR, main base Sousa, because the condo I stay in is close to everything, and has view of the ocean.

I joined DominicanCupid. Com before I got here so I had about 10 to 15 contacts from Santo Domingo to La Vega and Sanitago.

I settled on 3, 1 from Santo Domingo I went there to meet her and family had a great time, I was disappointed with the Zona Colonial, thougt it would be more like the old town in Cartagena, Colombia, but nice to see a different part of DR, liked the Monument in Sanitago where I had a evening date with another women.

The other from Santiago didn't want to wait and visited me here in Sousa, nice girl but I liked the other two better, more relaxed and nice, less hoochie about them.

I've been here a month, research for retirement, speak a bit more then basic spanish but avoided the Sousa woman not my style, so if you want to do some work, it's worth it for me, but you'll have no problem getting attention or offers, for what amount I can't say I didn't partake, but from what I saw of the black guys dragging girls back to the condo day and night, they were getting all the attention they could handle

Nowrath[/QUOTE]I live here, retired, and suggest you do as I have done, find a small town to live in. Once retired, life goes into the slow lane. Ever been to Alta Mira? Easy to get to by guagua from Santiago, right on the way, to Puerta Plata. There are many more to discover. I love it here and I ain't going back.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1156271]I live here, retired, and suggest you do as I have done, find a small town to live in. Once retired, life goes into the slow lane. Ever been to Alta Mira? Easy to get to by guagua from Santiago, right on the way, to Puerta Plata. There are many more to discover. I love it here and I ain't going back.[/QUOTE]RR.

I hear you loud and clear, I do my vacation's like I'm retired now, live as I do back in the states minus work of course, The clubs don't do it for me anymore, I like my time relaxed and no problems.

I enjoy DR, but with 6 years left of work I want to see a few more countries while I'm not on a budget.

Thailand is still one of my first choices, because of the cost and medical, I love the food, been over 12 times, love the culture.

Colombia also is a strong contender, next year for me is a Argentina, my first time, looking forward to it, but I've know since my first trip international in 1992, I was going to retire somewhere out of the USA.

Glad your living the life, I can't wait to get there in 2017, I'm already counting the days.

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Amb832;1156062]I'm black and heading to Sosua for the first time. I'm not a wifebeater or make it rain in the club person. Just a person who like to travel and experience new things. So I'm guess by reading a few reports majority of the ladies don't like black men or if I'm not flashy with my money or the ladies would jack up the price cause I'm black. .Hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]The girls like black guys. I've never met a girl who was turned off by me. The girls are attracted to money. But color isn't an issue. I'm lite brown. And I kind of look dominican so that might give me an advantage. But don't stress about anything, you'll have a blast. The wife beater comment refers to the types of shirt black guys wear "the white tank top is called a wife beat".

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1155893]But to say the Del Ray in Costa Rica crushes Sosua, I don't concur. Del Ray is more diverse because they ship in talent from other countries. But most of these girls ask for 100usd an hour before giving you their name. In sosua you get a girl for 80usd all night. In Del Ray the girls look and act trashy, with a strickly business attitude. In Sosua at night the girls have that spanish style that comes with sexual energy. Del Ray girls mostly do CBJ, in Sosua they mostly do NCB.[/QUOTE]I disagree because my statement was strictly regarding looks. In the Del Rey, there are usually many dime pieces. Comparing it to somewhere like Clasicos would be a joke. I don't know how your game is, but you can feel up, get hand jobs and all kinds of stuff from dime pieces and not even take them. As far as that cien starting price, I would never pay that as you can grab the same babe for much cheaper at Key Largo or some other places or even in the Del Rey, depending on what kind of chemistry you develop. I'm speaking from my experiences so others may be different. I admit that I don't like some of the plastic surgery of the girls from Medellin, but I like the different looks of Dominicanas, Nicas, Ticas, Colombianas, etc. Also, you can hit a lot of the casas that mostly Ticos go to and get great prices. This is why dudes with intel wind up tappin 4 or 5 dif babes a day in CR.

As far as Sosua, there are some nice chicas there but you don't have the numbers and certainly not the dimes, which is why a lot of guys often grab a babe and keep her. The girls in Sosua tend to be more like little girls with motoconcho scars compared to a greater proportion of women in CR or even Colombia. The great thing about Sosua is that it is like fishing in a bucket and low hanging fruit without having to be locked into one spot like Barba Negra.

Don't get me wrong, I love Dominicanas more overall because they are more freaky that chicas in a lot of other places, in general, and less business oriented as you implied. But blame the business part on the stupid gringos that went there are ran up the numbers. Hopefully, the New Sosua will not see runups on the numbers as well.

I agree with you observations about MDE. MDE, in general, is pretty conservative. Thy have some pretty women, no doubt, but you don't get your ego stroked as often as you would in the DR. Cuba took this a step further for me the few times that I visited. Cuban women were even more ready to get busy that Dominicanas, if one can even imagine that, LOL.

I think the key is to hit as many places as you can to keep things fresh. I know guys now that go to MDE all the time like they used to go to Sosua or Rio. People find a place they like and stay in their comfort zone and take advantage of familiarity. Every place has its pluses and minuses.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1156102]I'm still scratching my head over the attraction of CR. $100-150usd per hour and CBJ is the same thing you can get in your own backyard, LOL.

No argument with you there. If anyone doubts this statement then just take a look at the photos Jaosousa posted of the Eagle Sports Bar chicas in Santo Domingo (I don't think they are pros though). [/QUOTE]Hmm. Stay out of the Del Rey. There are spots for as low as $25 an hour around town. Talking BBBJCIM.

Eagles!. That's one of my main spots! I pulled the manager out of there once. A sexy ass chocolate sister I had been working on for awhile.

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1156151]Depending on what you want and how you want it, it doesn't matter if your black,

Yeah everybody says it "green" the color of money but that's everywhere, big deal.

I'm black second trip to DR, main base Sousa, because the condo I stay in is close to everything, and has view of the ocean.

I joined DominicanCupid. Com before I got here so I had about 10 to 15 contacts from Santo Domingo to La Vega and Sanitago.

I settled on 3, 1 from Santo Domingo I went there to meet her and family had a great time, I was disappointed with the Zona Colonial, thougt it would be more like the old town in Cartagena, Colombia, but nice to see a different part of DR, liked the Monument in Sanitago where I had a evening date with another women.

The other from Santiago didn't want to wait and visited me here in Sousa, nice girl but I liked the other two better, more relaxed and nice, less hoochie about them.

I've been here a month, research for retirement, speak a bit more then basic spanish but avoided the Sousa woman not my style, so if you want to do some work, it's worth it for me, but you'll have no problem getting attention or offers, for what amount I can't say I didn't partake, but from what I saw of the black guys dragging girls back to the condo day and night, they were getting all the attention they could handle

Nowrath[/QUOTE]I gree 100. I think a lot of Dominicanas actually prefer AAs. I've hung with many AAs in Sosua and they always had a blast. Don't ever bring any kind of racial baggage with you to a new country. Always go with an open mind.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1156450]I disagree because my statement was strictly regarding looks. In the Del Rey, there are usually many dime pieces. Comparing it to somewhere like Clasicos would be a joke. I don't know how your game is, but you can feel up, get hand jobs and all kinds of stuff from dime pieces and not even take them. As far as that cien starting price, I would never pay that as you can grab the same babe for much cheaper at Key Largo or some other places or even in the Del Rey, depending on what kind of chemistry you develop. I'm speaking from my experiences so others may be different. I admit that I don't like some of the plastic surgery of the girls from Medellin, but I like the different looks of Dominicanas, Nicas, Ticas, Colombianas, etc. Also, you can hit a lot of the casas that mostly Ticos go to and get great prices. This is why dudes with intel wind up tappin 4 or 5 dif babes a day in CR.

As far as Sosua, there are some nice chicas there but you don't have the numbers and certainly not the dimes, which is why a lot of guys often grab a babe and keep her. The girls in Sosua tend to be more like little girls with motoconcho scars compared to a greater proportion of women in CR or even Colombia. The great thing about Sosua is that it is like fishing in a bucket and low hanging fruit without having to be locked into one spot like Barba Negra.

Don't get me wrong, I love Dominicanas more overall because they are more freaky that chicas in a lot of other places, in general, and less business oriented as you implied. But blame the business part on the stupid gringos that went there are ran up the numbers. Hopefully, the New Sosua will not see runups on the numbers as well.

I agree with you observations about MDE. MDE, in general, is pretty conservative. Thy have some pretty women, no doubt, but you don't get your ego stroked as often as you would in the DR. Cuba took this a step further for me the few times that I visited. Cuban women were even more ready to get busy that Dominicanas, if one can even imagine that, LOL.

I think the key is to hit as many places as you can to keep things fresh. I know guys now that go to MDE all the time like they used to go to Sosua or Rio. People find a place they like and stay in their comfort zone and take advantage of familiarity. Every place has its pluses and minuses. [/QUOTE]We can agree to disagree. Thats what this forum is about. But first let me state what I don't agree with.

If a girl is letting you feel her up and giving you a handjob in public, maybe she is the one running game. I don't even know if game applies in the DelRay where women are on a one hour clock. If you go into a casa and a chica sits on your lap, then you leave, are you really running game?

Its not like the DelRay girls invite you over for dinner, or offer you a day tour of the city, or try to spend the night. And free pussy doesn't apply in the DelRay, so where is the game?

In the old Sosua all this applies. You had to pay them to leave but they never really left. From staking out your hotel, to bribing the security guards to checking your hangouts. Try playing'hide and seek' in Sosua, that takes game. From taking the back streets so you don't get ambushed to arranging new dates by text so you don't have to answer your phone. Having 4 chics put a BOLO (Be On the LookOut) out on you and thinking ahead of them to avoid a scene, thats game.

I will take Classicos any day of the week over DelRay. But the rest of your post especially about the gringos fucking up CR I agree with. But I hate to say it but the 'New Sosua' is on that path.

From the stuff I'm hearing now the only chicks that's available now in Sosua are the hardcore chicks that cause trouble or the rundown looking chicks. Is that true?

Is there a website where you can possibly chat with girls from DR?

What's the difference between the old Sosua vs the new Sosua?

Will it be compared like Rio before help close vs Rio after help closed?

Damn. I think I have bad luck. I always seem to go to places when things start to fall off.

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1156612]From the stuff I'm hearing now the only chicks that's available now in Sosua are the hardcore chicks that cause trouble or the rundown looking chicks. Is that true?

Is there a website where you can possibly chat with girls from DR?[/QUOTE]From reading recent posts, seems there are still plenty of chicas in Sosua. There are always nutty or bad service chicas in every bunch, throughout the DR.

As a newbie to Sosua, you will probably have a lot of fun. CMP and Passions also exist in Sosua. Passions has a website with photos.

Facebook, Hi5. Com, badoo. Com, sexyono. Com, tagged. Com are free sites that have Dominican chicas. DominicanCupid. Com is a pay site, you pay a small fee for something like a three month membership, they probably have longer term memberships.

Here's our chica from Sosua. I found her on youtube randomly.

She always does that tongue that and poses the same always.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0xiV20BkbU[/url]

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1156062]I'm black and heading to Sosua for the first time. I'm not a wifebeater or make it rain in the club person. Just a person who like to travel and experience new things. So I'm guess by reading a few reports majority of the ladies don't like black men or if I'm not flashy with my money or the ladies would jack up the price cause I'm black. .

Hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1156415]The girls like black guys. I've never met a girl who was turned off by me. The girls are attracted to money. But color isn't an issue. I'm lite brown. And I kind of look dominican so that might give me an advantage. But don't stress about anything, you'll have a blast. The wife beater comment refers to the types of shirt black guys wear "the white tank top is called a wife beat".[/QUOTE]

Just in case anyone else missed our history lesson we had on the board a few weeks back, I am reposting the PBS Documentary "Black in Latin America: Full Episode: Haiti & the Dominican Republic: An Island Divided."

It's free to watch the full episode:

[url]http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/featured/haiti-the-dominican-republic-an-island-divided-watch-full-episode/165/[/url]

[i]In the Dominican Republic, Professor Gates explores how race has been socially constructed in a society whose people reflect centuries of inter-marriage, and how the country’s troubled history with Haiti informs notions about racial classification. In Haiti, Professor Gates tells the story of the birth of the first-ever black republic, and finds out how the slaves’s hard fight for liberation over Napoleon Bonaparte’s French Empire became a double-edged sword.[/i]

This should help folks get a perspective on the country's history regarding race, especially for first time visitors to the island.

Also, I think the term "Wife Beater" comes from the old movies from the 1940s-50s. Anytime a guy was beating his wife, slapping her, or yelling at her in a movie he was sometimes wearing a white tank top (especially if he just came home from work), hence the name "Wife Beaters."

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1156612]From the stuff I'm hearing now the only chicks that's available now in Sosua are the hardcore chicks that cause trouble or the rundown looking chicks. Is that true?

Is there a website where you can possibly chat with girls from DR? [/QUOTE]Amb832,

Don't listen to all the BS about Sosua not being what it used to be, blah blah blah. You will have a blast. Remember though, during the week there might only be 100 girls to choose from instead of 300, hahaha. It's kind of like going to the candy store and instead of having 20 kinds of bubblegum the store is now only carrying 15, who gives a shit, I still have 15 kinds to choose from which is plenty in my opinion.

Hey guys, first time poster long time lurker.

I'm planning my trip to DR and got a ticket to Santiago for June 9. 12.

I was planning on staying at BBs or New Garden but it seems like they are booked solid for those days. I ended up getting a room in Tierra Linda instead. I've been on mongering trips before but mostly in Thailand, Cambo, the Philippines, CR, and Medellin but this is really my first time alone in a Latin American country so I need a little intel.

How is Sosua for noobs? I was looking at shooting fish in a barrel at BBs or NG for a few days until I get my bearings straight but it seems that I don't have that option. Can non-guest still hang at the pool at BBs or NG, and can I do take out at those places? Also, what's good for daytime action? From the board, I've seen La Passion and Classicos as MPs. What nightclubs and bars are recommended?

[QUOTE=Wtf7301; 1156921]Hey guys, first time poster long time lurker.

I'm planning my trip to DR and got a ticket to Santiago for June 9. 12.

I was planning on staying at BBs or New Garden but it seems like they are booked solid for those days. I ended up getting a room in Tierra Linda instead. I've been on mongering trips before but mostly in Thailand, Cambo, the Philippines, CR, and Medellin but this is really my first time alone in a Latin American country so I need a little intel.

How is Sosua for noobs? I was looking at shooting fish in a barrel at BBs or NG for a few days until I get my bearings straight but it seems that I don't have that option. Can non-guest still hang at the pool at BBs or NG, and can I do take out at those places? Also, what's good for daytime action? From the board, I've seen La Passion and Classicos as MPs. What nightclubs and bars are recommended? [/QUOTE]Passions is a MP, that has takeout also. CMP (Caribbean Mens Paradise) has chicas onsite. Sosua is very small, you can walk around the El Batey section of Sosua in 30 minutes or less. Sosua has two parts that are separated by about a mile long beach, Playa Sosua. On the west side of Sosua Beach is Charamicos, Sosua, where many Dominicans live. On the east side of the beach is the El Batey part of Sosua, which is where the hotels and bars are located.

Classicos is a bar on the second floor, located above another bar. Classicos usually gets going later in the night. Can be useful to collect cell phone numbers at night, to call chicas for daytime action.

Passions Massage is open in the daytime.

[QUOTE=Wtf7301;1156921]How is Sosua for noobs?[/QUOTE]You will have a great time. If you have done MDE and CR you will have no trouble. I suggest first day you hang at the popular monger meeting places (Rocky's, Shark Bar if open, New Garden, Passions, Black Box on the beach, etc) and talk to other mongers. If you are an agreeable person I guarantee you will find guys only too willing to show you the ropes. It is only human nature to enjoy parading our relative expertise. If, on the other hand, you are a braggart, a drunk, you don't like to pay for your own drinks, or have a personal hygiene problem you may have to cope alone.

[QUOTE=Wtf7301;1156921]I ended up getting a room in Terra Linda instead.[/QUOTE]Good choice. It's between the New Garden and Rocky's (two places where you can meet mongers) and two minutes walk from the main strip. In fact, almost everything of interest in Sosua is within walking distance.

[QUOTE=Wtf7301;1156921]Can non-guests still hang at the pool at BBs or NG, and can I do take out at those places? Also, what's good for daytime action? From the board, I've seen La Passion and Classicos as MPs.[/QUOTE]You are a bit confused here.

BB (Blackbeards) is not in Sosúa. It is an hour's ride, the other side of Puerto Plata. With only four days you might want to give it a miss unless you run into other guys with a car keen to go there so you can share costs.

You can certainly hang as a non-resident at BB and NG but you wouldn't want to take out. At BB's residents pay a premium for the convenience of having the chicas on site. As a non-resident you would have to pay for a room there or elsewhere. No point in taking a Blackbeards chica back to Sosúa. If you are willing to pay inflated prices you might as well go straight to Passions, no hassle.

The chicas hanging at New Garden are generally regarded as hard-core and towards the bottom of the barrel (with the occasional exception). Again, their value is as a convenience for residents who are too drunk or lazy to stagger out and find better chicas at lower prices.

Clasico Disco is not a massage parlour. It is the leading night-club and pick-up place. Doesn't get going until about 11. 00pm.

Daytime action is a problem since the December crack-down on prostitution. Your best bet is to collect phone numbers of chicas you fancy when you meet them at night and ring them during the afternoon (most sleep all morning). They will be glad to make some extra cash in the day. Pay 1000 to 1500 pesos short-time and never pay in advance. Your first day, before you have collected any numbers, I would visit Passions or CMP.

[QUOTE=Wtf7301; 1156921]Hey guys, first time poster long time lurker.

I'm planning my trip to DR and got a ticket to Santiago for June 9. 12.

I was planning on staying at BBs or New Garden but it seems like they are booked solid for those days. I ended up getting a room in Tierra Linda instead. I've been on mongering trips before but mostly in Thailand, Cambo, the Philippines, CR, and Medellin but this is really my first time alone in a Latin American country so I need a little intel.

How is Sosua for noobs? I was looking at shooting fish in a barrel at BBs or NG for a few days until I get my bearings straight but it seems that I don't have that option. Can non-guest still hang at the pool at BBs or NG, and can I do take out at those places? Also, what's good for daytime action? From the board, I've seen La Passion and Classicos as MPs. What nightclubs and bars are recommended? [/QUOTE]I will be there the about the same time as you and staying at the NG. We are flying back on the 13th. PM me as we get closer.

I think Sosua will be perfect for new people. BB's even better, but unless you plan on renting a car, you are pretty much stuck there unless you find other people with a rental car. Cabs can get expensive going back and forth from BB's to Sosua. There is no Bikini contest there that weekend, but a Ms Universe which I never been too. I have been fortunate enough to always be in the DR on bikini weekends. The nice part of BB's and Passions is the salary cap, or fixed pricing. Its not the cheapest, but these girls will generally not rip you off, and if there are any problems, you can report to somebody. I have never been in a situation where I had too.

I'm heading to Sosua Saturday, third time. Which do you guys recommend between Don Antonio and Rocky's?

[QUOTE=Kodyhead; 1156939]I will be there the about the same time as you and staying at the NG. We are flying back on the 13th. PM me as we get closer.[/QUOTE]I'll def do that seeing as you're only next door from where I'm staying.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1156938]You will have a great time. If you have done MDE and CR you will have no trouble. I suggest first day you hang at the popular monger meeting places (Rocky's, Shark Bar if open, New Garden, Passions, Black Box on the beach, etc) and talk to other mongers. If you are an agreeable person I guarantee you will find guys only too willing to show you the ropes. It is only human nature to enjoy parading our relative expertise. If, on the other hand, you are a braggart, a drunk, you don't like to pay for your own drinks, or have a personal hygiene problem you may have to cope alone.[/QUOTE]Asia can get crazy but I got by luckily. MDE and CR, I have done with the benefit of some Spanish speakers. I took 4 years of Spanish in school but remember very little. For this trip, I am going with an even bigger noob so I'm afraid we'll have bullseyes painted on our backs. Will check the above mentioned places to meet like-minded people.

Thanks for clarifying CMP vs Classicos BTW. Thought those places were one and the same.

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson; 1156937]I'll be in Sosua June 3, for a few days, then heading to BB. I'll be at BB when you get into DR. Come on up and introduce yourself. BB does allow outside folks to come in and partake of their beauties. For a small fee of course.[/quote]I have been curious about BBs since I've checked out this board for DR. Do you know if they have some ST rooms there and how much they typically charge? I guess my heading out there depends on whether my wingman is up for it.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1156811]Here's our chica from Sosua. I found her on youtube randomly.

She always does that tongue that and poses the same always.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0xiV20BkbU[/url][/QUOTE]Yep that is her. How ever did you find that video? If you get to her before I do bust one for me!

Wifebeaters=negative stereotype that mostly "thugs" wear.

I have been curious about BBs since I've checked out this board for DR. Do you know if they have some ST rooms there and how much they typically charge? I guess my heading out there depends on whether my wingman is up for it. [/QUOTE]Unless you are a guest at BB's, you will have to pay for take out, and either bring them back to Sosua (and most likely pay for a cab back unless you have a car) PLUS the rate of the Chica, which is pricey. I forgot how much it was to take out of BB"s but I know it was high. This was to prevent outsiders of poaching all the girls for the guests of BB's.

You can still eat dinner and drink there as an outsider, but they DO NOT have rooms for short time like other places. I used to stay there often, but not have gradually moved on to Sosua and other places in the DR. On previous visits, on a 4-5 day weekend, I spent one or 2 nights at BB's but on my next trip I have not reserved a room, and will ask when I am down there if they have something last minute for one night.

BB's is great, its almost a one stop shop of mongering like a super walmart. They have all the food and booze you need, great service, pharmacy and grocery store right down the street, and you are on the beach. It is in a gate community and is very safe. I would suggest signing up for the newsletter.

The problem is the more you go there, the more you see the same chicas over and over again. I would say 85-90% of the girls are the same every day I am there. I liked the shift changes so you can see the whole staff around 5pm you will want to be around the bar area. You will never be out numbered and have plenty to choose from, but after all the newsletters and being with many of them, it seems like there isn't too many rookies. Also I am a late night guy so unless you have a car, when BB's is closed, so are you. I always rent a car, so I have options.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1156811]Here's our chica from Sosua. I found her on youtube randomly.

She always does that tongue that and poses the same always.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0xiV20BkbU[/url][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1156987]Yep that is her. How ever did you find that video? If you get to her before I do bust one for me![/QUOTE]THAT * IS CRAZY!

I promise you do not want any dealings with that chica. Didn't I warn you guys about how she flipped the fuck out on me at NG? And she is a lesbian, which made it all the more exciting (not). Also told me she is from Santiago and is a stripper and has one daughter.

5 monger points to anyone (who has been with her) who can tell me what the tatt is of on her lower back (smiles)!

And no, I am not trying to bogart this chica for myself. In fact, I avoid her purposefully on every trip I run across her. I am just putting the warning out there. She is a certified psycho and carries a razor under her tongue. Banged her twice and got a preview of this the first time around. I thought it was cool to have a psycho stalker, but that effect wore off the night after leaving Classicos with her. I should have known something was up when the bouncer smiled and patted me on the shoulder as I exited the club with her (she was actually there waiting for me. She had told me during our first romp during the day that she would be at Classicos and would be waiting for me. Said she would beat my ass if she saw me with another chica. As she said this she stomped her foot on the ground, slammed her fist into the palm of her hand, and motioned with her finger across her throat).

Apparently, I was the only foreigner in all of Sosua who didn't know this was a crazy chica. Tread carefully.

I've got videos too, but we've got WAY too many snitches on this site. I'll probably get knifed with this pic alone, LOL.

I will be here for five days with two buddies.

Around 4pm, I will be sipping brews somewhere. Any takers?

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1157132]THAT * IS CRAZY!

I promise you do not want any dealings with that chica. Didn't I warn you guys about how she flipped the fuck out on me at NG? And she is a lesbian, which made it all the more exciting (not). Also told me she is from Santiago and is a stripper and has one daughter.

5 monger points to anyone (who has been with her) who can tell me what the tatt is of on her lower back (smiles)!

And no, I am not trying to bogart this chica for myself. In fact, I avoid her purposefully on every trip I run across her. I am just putting the warning out there. She is a certified psycho and carries a razor under her tongue. Banged her twice and got a preview of this the first time around. I thought it was cool to have a psycho stalker, but that effect wore off the night after leaving Classicos with her. I should have known something was up when the bouncer smiled and patted me on the shoulder as I exited the club with her (she was actually there waiting for me. She had told me during our first romp during the day that she would be at Classicos and would be waiting for me. Said she would beat my ass if she saw me with another chica. As she said this she stomped her foot on the ground, slammed her fist into the palm of her hand, and motioned with her finger across her throat).

Apparently, I was the only foreigner in all of Sosua who didn't know this was a crazy chica. Tread carefully.

I've got videos too, but we've got WAY too many snitches on this site. I'll probably get knifed with this pic alone, LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks, good looking out for other members. There are many chicas in DR that will treat a guy like a king. Nice to know who are the crazy stalkers, LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1157132]THAT * IS CRAZY!

I promise you do not want any dealings with that chica. Didn't I warn you guys about how she flipped the fuck out on me at NG? And she is a lesbian, which made it all the more exciting (not). Also told me she is from Santiago and is a stripper and has one daughter. [/QUOTE]Man I told y'all that I hit her the begining of last month. No doubt she is crazier than a bag of angel dust, and the average monger should not attempt it. But does she fuck like a maniac or what? What a seasoned monger has to do is to check her from the start. After I gave her that 1000 pesos and wouldn't buy in to her bullshit that I had to give her more because she isn't Haitian, she took a liking to me and started calling me mafioso. And the next night in front of Latino's she was trying to get on my good side but I continued to show her that she wasn't shit to me. She kept trying to play mad because I was looking at all the girls who were passing by. I told her that is what I came to Sosua for, to check out the women, so she could save that. But I did applaud her for acknowledging who was running shit and ended up buying her a beer. And I NEVER buy drinks for a chica. That mf was so damn sexy that I really wanted to take her again, but it was the principle of the thing. I tell you when we will fuck and how much I will give you. You don't tell me.

LOL at trying to keep her for yourself. Man I know you know as well as I do that those women are for everybody to enjoy, but if you are not a heavy hitter then that one is sure to cause you problems in the likes that you don't want to see.

How beautiful! But I will fuck her! I need to get it out my system. But yeah. The Dj in latinos probably was sparing me a headache or worse. So I'll toss him a few pesos.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1157161]Man I told y'all that I hit her the begining of last month. No doubt she is crazier than a bag of angel dust, and the average monger should not attempt it. But does she fuck like a maniac or what?[/QUOTE]No doubt, LOL! She would be an awesome chica if she wasn't so loca. Someone told me she's into some heavy drugs. I don't know about that, but she did have small bag of "the Chronic" on her, LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1157161]Man I told why'all that I hit her the begining of last month. No doubt she is crazier than a bag of angel dust, and the average monger should not attempt it. But does she fuck like a maniac or what? What a seasoned monger has to do is to check her from the start. After I gave her that 1000 pesos and wouldn't buy in to her bullshit that I had to give her more because she isn't Haitian, she took a liking to me and started calling me mafioso. And the next night in front of Latino's she was trying to get on my good side but I continued to show her that she wasn't shit to me. She kept trying to play mad because I was looking at all the girls who were passing by. I told her that is what I came to Sosua for, to check out the women, so she could save that. But I did applaud her for acknowledging who was running shit and ended up buying her a beer. And I NEVER buy drinks for a chica. That mf was so damn sexy that I really wanted to take her again, but it was the principle of the thing. I tell you when we will fuck and how much I will give you. You don't tell me.

LOL at trying to keep her for yourself. Man I know you know as well as I do that those women are for everybody to enjoy, but if you are not a heavy hitter then that one is sure to cause you problems in the likes that you don't want to see. [/QUOTE]She is definately a nutcase and rumor has it that she is on coke. She is a sexy muthafukka but believe me, its not worth it. I sessioned with her a couple of times but she went batty the 2nd time and even then, I ddnt want to fuk her. She caught me by calling me and telling me she had a present for me. She brought me chocolates, but she said she ddnt want to fuk. Just wanted to take a shower. Etc. Then of course she put my dick in her mouth. LOL. And then got mad when I gave her 1000 pesos. The best thing to do is. LOOK BUT DO NOT TOUCH!

Wilfried formerly of New Garden fame is thinking about opening a new hotel.

See the Gogo forum for details.

[QUOTE=Amb832;1157017]Wifebeaters=negative stereotype that mostly "thugs" wear.[/QUOTE]1951 movie "A Streetcar Named Desire", Marlon Brando wears a wife-beater t-shirt (tank top white undershirt). Stanley Kowalski (part played by Marlon Brando) is a brute.

I like seeing chicas in a white tank top t-shirt with no bra, even better when their nipples are hard.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1157415]1951 movie "A Streetcar Named Desire", Marlon Brando wears a wife-beater t-shirt (tank top white undershirt). Stanley Kowalski (part played by Marlon Brando) is a brute.

I like seeing chicas in a white tank top t-shirt with no bra, even better when their nipples are hard. [/QUOTE]When women wear them, they are called "Boy-beaters." At least that is what singers Pink and Avril Lavigne promotes them as, LOL.

[QUOTE=Chief Justice;1157385]She is definately a nutcase and rumor has it that she is on coke. She is a sexy muthafukka but believe me, its not worth it. I sessioned with her a couple of times but she went batty the 2nd time and even then, I ddnt want to fuk her. She caught me by calling me and telling me she had a present for me. She brought me chocolates, but she said she ddnt want to fuk. Just wanted to take a shower. Etc. Then of course she put my dick in her mouth. LOL. And then got mad when I gave her 1000 pesos. The best thing to do is. LOOK BUT DO NOT TOUCH![/QUOTE]It's like the Superman ride at Six Flags: "Fuck that; one time was enough. Not doing that shit again!"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvNEu3xlxk[/url]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1157415]1951 movie "A Streetcar Named Desire", Marlon Brando wears a wife-beater t-shirt (tank top white undershirt). Stanley Kowalski (part played by Marlon Brando) is a brute.[/QUOTE]As ever, Jaosousa has nailed it. That role in that movie is the definitive image of the "wife beater", although I don't know when the expression came into use. Maybe much later?

In the UK they are called "vests" and were traditionally worn under shirts because of the usually cold, damp climate. Dying out nowadays, except among the old, because considered not "cool" and because homes and work-places are better heated and ventilated. The traditional question asked by anxious mums when their offspring left for school was "Are you wearing your vest, dear?".

When middle-class movie-makers wanted authenticity in their movies about working-class heroes, they always depicted them sleeping in their vests, an unhygienic practice abhorrent to decent people.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1157529]It's like the Superman ride at Six Flags: "Fuck that; one time was enough. Not doing that shit again!"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvNEu3xlxk[/url][/QUOTE]Damn Savepro, that Superman.

Ride, looked scary just watching the clip. LOL. Hey, I went to the Dr back in March, I wanted.

To get ahold of Naomi, the number, I had kept going to voicemail, I was wondering, If you.

Had, a good number on her, Pm me your number, I want to compare my number, I am.

Going back in August, hopefully catching up with her.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1157939]Damn Savepro, that Superman.

Ride, looked scary just watching the clip. LOL. Hey, I went to the Dr back in March, I wanted.

To get ahold of Naomi, the number, I had kept going to voicemail, I was wondering, If you.

Had, a good number on her, Pm me your number, I want to compare my number, I am.

Going back in August, hopefully catching up with her. [/QUOTE]Who is Naomi? If we are talking about psycho chica, she told me her name was Patricia, LOL! But I don't have her number. That's not one I would hang on to. Jfregedie is after her also so you might want to talk with him. I think he's going back there before August.

What has Mandigo Al been up to lately? Did he get married or something, LOL?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1158073]Who is Naomi? If we are talking about psycho chica, she told me her name was Patricia, LOL! But I don't have her number. That's not one I would hang on to. Jfregedie is after her also so you might want to talk with him. I think he's going back there before August.[/QUOTE]No need for a phone number if it is her you are talking about. Just go to Latino's at 11pm. You can not miss her. But as these guys have already said,"Caveat Emptor!"

Is it better to make reservations or just take your chances showing up to get the better cash price at places to stay in Sosua? I read from Cuba Dave's blogs that there are plenty of hotels to choose from. I'll be arriving on a Wednesday and this will be my first time here. Was even thinking of staying at the ManTourHotel in POP after arriving & taking the ManTour to check out Sosua. I am retiring in Aug and wanted to check DR out. Just returned from CR for an implant, and CR is so far my first choice for retirement. But hoping Sosua will change my mind. Anyone recommend a POC for retirement options in Sosua?

Any advice?

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1158073]Who is Naomi? If we are talking about psycho chica, she told me her name was Patricia, LOL! But I don't have her number. That's not one I would hang on to. Jfregedie is after her also so you might want to talk with him. I think he's going back there before August.

What has Mandigo Al been up to lately? Did he get married or something, LOL? [/QUOTE]Savepros,

Deep is looking for this Naomi. She is a legendary greek goddess that used to work at Cristal's, an awesome chica. I have her number for anyone that wants it unless of course she has changed it in the last 6 months. I also know where she lives but I won't give out that info without her permission.

I hear Ibel is at CMP, just wanting to know if she still one of the best as I remember her?

[QUOTE=Perks;1158233]I hear Ibel is at CMP, just wanting to know if she still one of the best as I remember her?[/QUOTE]Ibel is a wonderful performer but she has always wanted more than the average going price. The first time I met her was at BB'S and she tried to jack me up there which is strictly forbidden. Then when she was at FOD she insisted on 2500 pesos ST and wouldn't budge and guys were almost standing in line to pay it. Last year I contacted her to come to Puerto Plata for a couple days and she told me sure, for 5000 pesos per 24 hours. I hung up on her and erased her number from my phone, she ain't THAT good.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1157939]Damn Savepro, that Superman.

Ride, looked scary just watching the clip. LOL. Hey, I went to the Dr back in March, I wanted.

To get ahold of Naomi, the number, I had kept going to voicemail, I was wondering, If you.

Had, a good number on her, Pm me your number, I want to compare my number, I am.

Going back in August, hopefully catching up with her. [/QUOTE]Just spoke with Mandingo AL. Is this the Naomi you are looking for? :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=858445&viewfull=1#post858445[/url]

If so, I've never been with her. Love the color of her eyes though!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1158249]Just spoke with Mandingo AL. Is this the Naomi you are looking for? :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=858445&viewfull=1#post858445[/url]

If so, I've never been with her. Love the color of her eyes though! [/QUOTE]Good looking.

Savepro, but no that aint her. You wouldn't forget this Naomi, I'm talking about.

But I owe you a drink, if we ever party together, in Sosua. LOL. Ill try and post

A picture of this Naomi, I'm talking about. In a country of Ford Taurus, she's.

A ferrari. This chica is legendary. Beautiful, funny, sexy (beautiful feet)

Sorry that was my foot fetish talking. LOL.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1158232]Savepros,

Deep is looking for this Naomi. She is a legendary greek goddess that used to work at Cristal's, an awesome chica. I have her number for anyone that wants it unless of course she has changed it in the last 6 months. I also know where she lives but I won't give out that info without her permission. [/QUOTE]Jackpot. Nothing but net!

Great job Manizales. Please Pm me her number, if you talk to her, tell El Caballo Negro.

Is looking for her (long story on the name). LOL. I would love to see her, very classy, sexy,

Beautiful, funny, intelligent, I could go on. (blah blah blah) , and sexy toes. LOL

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson; 1157867]I get in June 3 for 5 days. Meeting 3 other wingmen during this time.

Lets do beer, then chicas! [/QUOTE]Sounds like a party because 3 wingmen and I will also be there for 9 days starting June 3rd. Staying at perla de Sosua. Let's get wine and wenches!

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1158434]Sounds like a party because 3 wingmen and I will also be there for 9 days starting June 3rd. Staying at perla de Sosua. Let's get wine and wenches![/QUOTE]I will be there from that time. Lets drink a beer or 2.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man69; 1158180]Is it better to make reservations or just take your chances showing up to get the better cash price at places to stay in Sosua? I read from Cuba Dave's blogs that there are plenty of hotels to choose from. I'll be arriving on a Wednesday and this will be my first time here. Was even thinking of staying at the ManTourHotel in POP after arriving & taking the ManTour to check out Sosua. I am retiring in Aug and wanted to check DR out. Just returned from CR for an implant, and CR is so far my first choice for retirement. But hoping Sosua will change my mind. Anyone recommend a POC for retirement options in Sosua?

Any advice? [/QUOTE]Dan, I just spent 20 minutes sending you a long (and hopefully helpful) Private Message. After sending it, I found that you do not have private message facilities. This is the second time this week that has happened. I think it is stupid that the software allows us to write and send Private Messages to those who cannot receive them.

Come on, Mr Jackson, I am sure there is a simple fix for that, because I have never encountered that problem on any other board.

If and when you do have PM facilities (which I understand entails paying a small subscription) , drop me a line.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1158336]Jackpot. Nothing but net!

Great job Manizales. Please Pm me her number, if you talk to her, tell El Caballo Negro.

Is looking for her (long story on the name). LOL. I would love to see her, very classy, sexy,

Beautiful, funny, intelligent, I could go on. (blah blah blah) , and sexy toes. LOL[/QUOTE]Deep,

Ahhh, the toes, I forgot about the toes. Hahaha. Honestly, the LAST thing I would remember about her is her toes, her ass yes, oh yes her ass. As I said before, a greek goddess.

As soon as my Dominican phone charges up I will pm you her number.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1158476]Dan, I just spent 20 minutes sending you a long (and hopefully helpful) Private Message. After sending it, I found that you do not have private message facilities. This is the second time this week that has happened. I think it is stupid that the software allows us to write and send Private Messages to those who cannot receive them.

Come on, Mr Jackson, I am sure there is a simple fix for that, because I have never encountered that problem on any other board.

If and when you do have PM facilities (which I understand entails paying a small subscription) , drop me a line.[/QUOTE]But says to wait up to 24 hrs before it is activated.

La Passion Massage Sosua has a page in yahoo groups with hundreds of photos. You will need to sign into a yahoo account (free) to see the webpage with the photos. Some cute chicas in the May 2011 folder of photos.

[url]http://*************************LaPassionMassageSosua[/url]

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1158591]Deep,

Ahhh, the toes, I forgot about the toes. Hahaha. Honestly, the LAST thing I would remember about her is her toes, her ass yes, oh yes her ass. As I said before, a greek goddess.

As soon as my Dominican phone charges up I will pm you her number. [/QUOTE

Manizales. Lmao. Okay, enough of my wierd ass foot fetish, I started it, but

Seriously, I appreciate your helping a brother out, Man I love smashing her perfect,

Round ass, she has this amazing friend Amelia, I never thought anyone could come.

Close to her, so my fellow mongers, ask Naomi about her amiga Amelia, she will.

Even let you film, while you punish that ass. (I'm talking about Amelia) so hopefully,

I'm able to get a good number, from manizales, I have a video of me smashing Amelia.

Perfect ass. Naomi will bring different outfits, to further the fantasy. Hahaha. I got to

Say it, her T&A or Toes and Ankles, are amazing and her Tit and Ass! Is legendary.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1158644]La Passion Massage Sosua has a page in yahoo groups with hundreds of photos. You will need to sign into a yahoo account (free) to see the webpage with the photos. Some cute chicas in the May 2011 folder of photos.

[url]http://*************************LaPassionMassageSosua[/url][/QUOTE]Damn, they finally got rid of some of those skinny broads now huh? Maybe he's been getting some pointers from BB's, LOL.

I've stopped by there during the day just to drink. They had some round booty chicas, but don't know why their website didn't proudly reflect that. Didn't partake though. At the time (Old Sos.) I could do better than 2500 for ST. Now the place is probably a necessity!

This is Loca chica in Aaliya mode back when she was pimping chicas (this was '09!).

[QUOTE=Perks;1158233]I hear Ibel is at CMP, just wanting to know if she still one of the best as I remember her?[/QUOTE]So is she actually there now?

Just read this article:

Is this truly the case? I thought things were legal here.

(Politur) in Sosúa Colonel Enmanuel Antonio Fernández Tapia said during a press conference that the problem of prostitution in our beach town is under control. There have recently been arrested 247 people, mostly women and some street vendors and five foreigners. The action is not limited to Sosúa, as the colonel told us, but Cabarete, Rio San Juan and Cabrera are also strictly controlled. The colonel said that many employers and local associations praised the work of Politur. Then he referred to plans to redesign the beach town by a group of students from the University of Santo Domingo which have been presented at City Hall of Sosúa recently. The students came (with a slide show) with proposals to build a cinema, discotheque, supermarket, taxi station and other possibilities for the beach town.

[QUOTE=Abaim; 1158944]Just read this article:

Is this truly the case? I thought things were legal here.

(Politur) in Sosúa Colonel Enmanuel Antonio Fernández Tapia said during a press conference that the problem of prostitution in our beach town is under control. There have recently been arrested 247 people, mostly women and some street vendors and five foreigners. The action is not limited to Sosúa, as the colonel told us, but Cabarete, Rio San Juan and Cabrera are also strictly controlled. The colonel said that many employers and local associations praised the work of Politur. Then he referred to plans to redesign the beach town by a group of students from the University of Santo Domingo which have been presented at City Hall of Sosúa recently. The students came (with a slide show) with proposals to build a cinema, discotheque, supermarket, taxi station and other possibilities for the beach town.[/QUOTE]Legal, Yes! But who wants their town, city, Borough, state over-run with P4P people? None!

[QUOTE=Funinthesun63;1158731]So is she actually there now?[/QUOTE]From the reports and recent pics, Yes she is. But as you know tomorrow is another day and she could be gone Poof! Just like that.

Ill be there next week to see 1st hand!

[QUOTE=Abaim; 1158944]Just read this article:

Is this truly the case? I thought things were legal here.

(Politur) in Sosúa Colonel Enmanuel Antonio Fernández Tapia said during a press conference that the problem of prostitution in our beach town is under control. There have recently been arrested 247 people, mostly women and some street vendors and five foreigners. The action is not limited to Sosúa, as the colonel told us, but Cabarete, Rio San Juan and Cabrera are also strictly controlled. The colonel said that many employers and local associations praised the work of Politur. Then he referred to plans to redesign the beach town by a group of students from the University of Santo Domingo which have been presented at City Hall of Sosúa recently. The students came (with a slide show) with proposals to build a cinema, discotheque, supermarket, taxi station and other possibilities for the beach town. [/QUOTE]I think you are referring to an old Sosua News article that came out back in Dec. 2010.

Where are you quoting this from?

[url]http://www.santiagodigital.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19324&Itemid=1[/url]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1158969]I think you are referring to an old Sosua News article that came out back in Dec. 2010.

Where are you quoting this from? [/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.verdadgasparense.com/[/url] Released the 20th of may. I am hoping this is not the case. Have an upcoming trip there.

[QUOTE=Abaim;1158972][url]http://www.santiagodigital.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19324&Itemid=1[/url][/QUOTE]

Okay. Hopefully someone can help me out here. I have been to Rio several times and believe me it sets the bar way high. I have familiar chicas I can hook up with and I am obviously a veteran when it comes to places to go. I am debating on whether to consider Medellin or Sosua this weekend or default to the old faithful Paradise. I have never been to the two aforementioned cities and I am curious to know which place would someone that has been to all three pick for this weekend? I really appreciate a prompt credible response! Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=MtdaRioLeo;1158977]Okay. Hopefully someone can help me out here. I have been to Rio several times and believe me it sets the bar way high. I have familiar chicas I can hook up with and I am obviously a veteran when it comes to places to go. I am debating on whether to consider Medellin or Sosua this weekend or default to the old faithful Paradise. I have never been to the two aforementioned cities and I am curious to know which place would someone that has been to all three pick for this weekend? I really appreciate a prompt credible response! Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Go to Brazil. You have connections, and you are a veteran as far as where to go.

[QUOTE=Abaim;1158972][url]http://www.santiagodigital.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19324&Itemid=1[/url][/QUOTE]That's the first time I've seen mention of foreigners being arrested. But from reading the article it does seem that the Politur visits ISG to stay up-to-date, LOL. Jfegedie reported about is trip a few weeks ago. Maybe they realized that (after reading his trip report) they've still more work to do.

Frannie, what's going on around Sosua these days?

[QUOTE=MtdaRioLeo;1158977]Okay. Hopefully someone can help me out here. I have been to Rio several times and believe me it sets the bar way high. I have familiar chicas I can hook up with and I am obviously a veteran when it comes to places to go. I am debating on whether to consider Medellin or Sosua this weekend or default to the old faithful Paradise. I have never been to the two aforementioned cities and I am curious to know which place would someone that has been to all three pick for this weekend? I really appreciate a prompt credible response! Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you have the option of Rio or MDE, you are going to be highly disappointed with Sosua. Sosua is the only place having P4P problems right now. And Dominicanas are no where as hot as chicas from BR or COL.

[QUOTE=Abaim; 1158975][url]http://www.verdadgasparense.com/[/url]

Released the 20th of may. I am hoping this is not the case. Have an upcoming trip there. [/QUOTE]Prostitution in DR is legal, I very, very highly doubt the foreigners were arrested for soliciting prostitution. The foreigners may have been arrested for fighting or some other offense. If you are calm, cool and collected, you will have no problem in DR.

If you like to get into fights, then you could get arrested for that in DR.

Thousands upon thousands of foreign men have visited Sosua and the article maybe mentions 5 foreigners getting arrested. As a general rule in DR, if you have a problem, it is usually best not to get the police involved. I was detained by the police in Sosua after some nut job chica tried to steal a cell phone and she tried to stab me and a watchieman with a knife. As a foreigner you are seen as a walking ATM.

Rule of law in DR is something nebulous, which can be a good thing or a bad thing. Perfect example is the recent arrests of many street chicas in Sosua. Those chicas were not breaking any law, the police were told by the politicians to clean up the streets and the police thereafter arrested women in Sosua, I have not seen anything in the Dominican Penal Code, that would justify those arrests.

Hey guys. I'm making my first trip to Sosua and first mongering trip in a couple months.

How safe am I from STD's if I use common sense? I know that nothing is 100% but are you pretty safe messing with these chicks if you simply use a condom (for head too)?

I had this horrible experience in college with this freshman chick and I was pissing razor blades for a week. Whatever it was, it was cured easily but I don't want to experience that again.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1159012]I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you have the option of Rio or MDE, you are going to be highly disappointed with Sosua. Sosua is the only place having P4P problems right now. And Dominicanas are no where as hot as chicas from BR or COL.[/QUOTE]Not all the chicas in Brazil are hot and Brazil is not cheap. Colombianas in Medellin are mostly lighter skin, many with implant tetas.

DR has a mix of chicas, from light skin to dark skin, some with big asses and some with big tetas. Many Dominican chicas love sex.

DR is closer to the US, pay for play prices are not bad in DR.

[QUOTE=Daniel545; 1159018]Hey guys. I'm making my first trip to Sosua and first mongering trip in a couple months.

How safe am I from STD's if I use common sense? I know that nothing is 100% but are you pretty safe messing with these chicks if you simply use a condom (for head too)?

I had this horrible experience in college with this freshman chick and I was pissing razor blades for a week. Whatever it was, it was cured easily but I don't want to experience that again. [/QUOTE]Dude, put a tent on your pecker and look at the VJJ before you penetrate it. That means with the lights one. The tent will keep you from the razor blades but can't protect you from herpes, warts, etc. So be smart and you'll be fine!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1159012]I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you have the option of Rio or MDE, you are going to be highly disappointed with Sosua. Sosua is the only place having P4P problems right now. And Dominicanas are no where as hot as chicas from BR or COL.[/QUOTE]MtdaRioLeo.

Please see my post in the MDE section. Regarding the crackdown in Sosua, there are still tons of women. The women in MDE on average do have prettier faces, but there are plenty of very hot looking girls in Sosua (hell, Passions alone has 20 or so women that would fit right in at 4x4 or L'uomo).

IMO, you can't lose trying out MDE or Sosua. While neither is Rio-level, both have plenty to offer.

[QUOTE=Combo;1159037](hell, Passions alone has 20 or so women that would fit right in at 4x4 or L'uomo).[/QUOTE]I will put up a Blackbeard's Monthly Newsletter against ANY of those tooth picks featured on La Passions website. You're comparing these chics to 4x4 or L'uomo babes? Seriously? None of those chicas would ever get hired at a Terma.

Lets compare:

BR
[url]http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/capa/[/url]

COL
[url]http://masajistaspaisas.com/prepagos-medellin.html[/url]

DR
[url]http://passions-sosua.com/?page_id=9[/url]

[QUOTE=Funinthesun63;1158731]So is she actually there now?[/QUOTE]I saw her at cristals last week. She loves Anal. She is a real veteran. I first had her 11 years ago. She is now a grandmother. Her 15 year old has a 1 year old. Ibel is very sexy for a granny.

I'm in Sosua now and completely confused at folks saying it's dead? Trip thus far has been great and the pussy talent has been excellent, don't really understand how you can complain about the lack of sexy chicas in this town. I'm staying at don Andes but may move, it's fucking loud. Seems like I'm on motoconcho calle and have a friggin rooster across the street from my room. Like I said talent has been great altho two chicas I've been with are in novia mode (I look Dominican) , and I have a bolo on my head. These two seem to find me where ever I go. Oh well, fuck it. If anyone is in town and wants to grab a drink let me know.

BTW can anyone recommend another hotel that accepts cc?

Save Pros.

I'm somewhat of a "Rio snob" and I think Termas are the greatest thing in the World. But I really like Passion's. Every visit there they've had excellent talent and I've had good performances. Of course that's IMO. Everyone has different tastes. If one doesn't like Mulattas, well then, there's no use going to the DR.

I've never tried Blackbeard's so I have no opinion on that.

[QUOTE=Dgamage;1159084]I saw her at cristals last week. She loves Anal. She is a real veteran. I first had her 11 years ago. She is now a grandmother. Her 15 year old has a 1 year old. Ibel is very sexy for a granny.[/QUOTE]I think Ibel's daughter is a bit older than 15 but I could be wrong, over two years ago she paraded the girl through FOD and introduced her to every gringo in the place, I lost a lot of respect for Ibel that day.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1159152]Save Pros.

I'm somewhat of a "Rio snob" and I think Termas are the greatest thing in the World. But I really like Passion's. Every visit there they've had excellent talent and I've had good performances. Of course that's IMO. Everyone has different tastes. If one doesn't like Mulattas, well then, there's no use going to the DR.

I've never tried Blackbeard's so I have no opinion on that.[/QUOTE]One of my wingmen just got back from Sosua on Friday and he told me Peter has cleaned house once again at Passions, about thirty new girls and quite a few stunners.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1159176]One of my wingmen just got back from Sosua on Friday and he told me Peter has cleaned house once again at Passions, about thirty new girls and quite a few stunners.[/QUOTE]Peter is a smart dude and always a step ahead of the game. When the first talk about"sex indoors" was spoken, Peter had already expanded. Peter does well with the internet so he has diversified.

But it makes me wonder how long the "sex indoor" concept can co-exist with the emerging family enviornment. Something has to give.

We had a private talk about some insider info we were privy to, that was possibly going to happen. I haven't heard anything else yet about that, so maybe there is a new direction being taken.

My wingman got some dimes out of Passions back in December and had some nice photos, but he asked me not to post (damn) so I will honor his request.

I never been to Passion's but I seen the pics of models on their website. Majority of them have cute face, but they're all shaped the same way. Slim girls with little curves. I saw a picture of a girl that use to work at Passion's name Diana (I think) pictures dated 2009. She had huge breast, don't know if they're fake or not but she stood out from the rest of the girls cause she was shaped differently.

Is it possible to get with a non-working girl or they won't talk to me cause I'm a gringo?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1159172]I think Ibel's daughter is a bit older than 15 but I could be wrong, over two years ago she paraded the girl through FOD and introduced her to every gringo in the place, I lost a lot of respect for Ibel that day.[/QUOTE]I believe the daughter says she is 18, and very much available.

I have a few questions fellas. I am NOT a newbie. This will be my third trip to the DR. My last visit to Sosua / Santo Domingo was almost 2 1/2 years ago. I have read the board, digested information, and I saved the special reports for reference later. My previous posts were under AlwaysHorny #2, but for some reason I lost access to that name.

Anyway, a big shout out to Coolie High. I enjoyed the hell out of your reports. Good Stuff!

Mr. Gogo, other than meeting you in the airport in Miami, I haven't had the opportunity to have a drink with you in the DR. Now that I am COMPLETELY single, I plan on making my travels to the DR way more frequent. I'm also brushing up on this spanish something fierce. Eventually, I want to get to know DR intimately. And not only in the obvious way you perverted bastards! LOL.

I plan to have a great time and relax some. I am bringing two newbies with me and I will continue to school them, but I'm not worried because they are older guys and are used to getting quality pussy.

I only have three questions:

1. Can someone recommend a good, trustworthy driver? We are considering making a day trip to Blackbeards and checking out Cabarete at least once.

2. Is Cabarete worth the visit? Is it better during the day or at night? Which days are better?

3. Can you recommend anything to help kill time during the day? Certain excursion, day trips, etc. I'm going to be here for a decent stretch and I want to do more than bang chicas and drink beer.

Ok, so I lied. Question 2 is like 3 in 1.

Thanks Fellas

[QUOTE=Mikemhg;1159096]I'm in Sosua now and completely confused at folks saying it's dead? Trip thus far has been great and the pussy talent has been excellent, don't really understand how you can complain about the lack of sexy chicas in this town. I'm staying at don Andes but may move, it's fucking loud. Seems like I'm on motoconcho calle and have a friggin rooster across the street from my room. Like I said talent has been great altho two chicas I've been with are in novia mode (I look Dominican) , and I have a bolo on my head. These two seem to find me where ever I go. Oh well, fuck it. If anyone is in town and wants to grab a drink let me know.[/QUOTE]I read your most recent post about the goings on in town and I am wondering a few things.

Is there daytime activity. On the streets, in Charmiquo, in the neighborhoods. We usually rent scooters and tool around all over and meet and greet many girls off the street form early morning to dusk. Are there still girls walking in the neighborhoods?

How about the evenings? Are there girls outside at all. Or do you have to enter the bars / restaurants.

How abour CMC? Is it any good? And finally the beach. We always could find a girl on the beach, just walking the strip at Hermans or at Abbey Road? What a shame if there are not girls on the beach.

I am thinking of coming toward the middle of June. Hope I am not disappointed, primarily because I don't care for the late night scene.

Damn. Looks like Sosua is going to be dead by time I go there in July. If I'm not able to arrange a meeting with some chicks from the internet I may have to go somewhere else. I was really wanting to go to DR too.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1159252]Peter is a smart dude and always a step ahead of the game. When the first talk about"sex indoors" was spoken, Peter had already expanded. Peter does well with the internet so he has diversified.

But it makes me wonder how long the "sex indoor" concept can co-exist with the emerging family enviornment. Something has to give.

We had a private talk about some insider info we were privy to, that was possibly going to happen. I haven't heard anything else yet about that, so maybe there is a new direction being taken.

My wingman got some dimes out of Passions back in December and had some nice photos, but he asked me not to post (damn) so I will honor his request.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1159362]I have a few questions fellas. I am NOT a newbie. This will be my third trip to the DR. My last visit to Sosua / Santo Domingo was almost 2 1/2 years ago. I have read the board, digested information, and I saved the special reports for reference later. My previous posts were under AlwaysHorny #2, but for some reason I lost access to that name.

Anyway, a big shout out to Coolie High. I enjoyed the hell out of your reports. Good Stuff!

Mr. Gogo, other than meeting you in the airport in Miami, I haven't had the opportunity to have a drink with you in the DR. Now that I am COMPLETELY single, I plan on making my travels to the DR way more frequent. I'm also brushing up on this spanish something fierce. Eventually, I want to get to know DR intimately. And not only in the obvious way you perverted bastards! LOL.

I plan to have a great time and relax some. I am bringing two newbies with me and I will continue to school them, but I'm not worried because they are older guys and are used to getting quality pussy.

I only have three questions:

1. Can someone recommend a good, trustworthy driver? We are considering making a day trip to Blackbeards and checking out Cabarete at least once.

2. Is Cabarete worth the visit? Is it better during the day or at night? Which days are better?

3. Can you recommend anything to help kill time during the day? Certain excursion, day trips, etc. I'm going to be here for a decent stretch and I want to do more than bang chicas and drink beer.

Ok, so I lied. Question 2 is like 3 in 1.

Thanks Fellas[/QUOTE]Hey whats man? I wondered what happened to you. I remember you like the Patron, I also remember you catching the wrong caribe tours bus, that was funny LOL. Well I got some bad news playa, Sosua is playing the final song now and the lights are coming on. Its nowhere like it was when you were there. Its still night time pussy but not as exciting as it was when you were there.

Also there isn't much to do during the day now except just hang out and hob nob with the fellas. If you are flying into or out of SD, try hooking up with BBl in SD. He gust did a great trip report in the "Gogo Forum". He is there going to Spanish school for the next two months and is giving alot of non mongering info on whats going on.

Where the fuck is Coolie high? Is he still in the "Old Sosua" rehab facility for displaced mogerers? Somebody call the "A Team"now. Have BA, Hannible, and Face bust Coolie and Murdock out asap.

[QUOTE=Amb832;1159574]Damn. Looks like Sosua is going to be dead by time I go there in July. If I'm not able to arrange a meeting with some chicks from the internet I may have to go somewhere else. I was really wanting to go to DR too.[/QUOTE]Who wrote Sosua is dead?

I read the recent posts and guys are saying there are still plenty of chicas in Sosua.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1159362]I have a few questions fellas. I am NOT a newbie. This will be my third trip to the DR. My last visit to Sosua / Santo Domingo was almost 2 1/2 years ago. I have read the board, digested information, and I saved the special reports for reference later. My previous posts were under AlwaysHorny #2, but for some reason I lost access to that name.

Anyway, a big shout out to Coolie High. I enjoyed the hell out of your reports. Good Stuff!

Mr. Gogo, other than meeting you in the airport in Miami, I haven't had the opportunity to have a drink with you in the DR. Now that I am COMPLETELY single, I plan on making my travels to the DR way more frequent. I'm also brushing up on this spanish something fierce. Eventually, I want to get to know DR intimately. And not only in the obvious way you perverted bastards! LOL.

I plan to have a great time and relax some. I am bringing two newbies with me and I will continue to school them, but I'm not worried because they are older guys and are used to getting quality pussy.

I only have three questions:

1. Can someone recommend a good, trustworthy driver? We are considering making a day trip to Blackbeards and checking out Cabarete at least once.

2. Is Cabarete worth the visit? Is it better during the day or at night? Which days are better?

3. Can you recommend anything to help kill time during the day? Certain excursion, day trips, etc. I'm going to be here for a decent stretch and I want to do more than bang chicas and drink beer.

Ok, so I lied. Question 2 is like 3 in 1.

Thanks Fellas[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Cabarete in years. When I visited, it was a pleasant beach town. The beach is much wider than playa sosua (you have to walk farther on the sand before getting to the water). The wind was always strong when I visited cabarete, lots of people from around the world travel to cabarete for wind sports like kite boarding. Some tourist chicas go topless on the beach in cabarete. I imagine some of the tourist chicas in cabarete are like groupies for some of the wind sports guys. Cabarete has some bars and restaurants that face face the beach, Jose O'Shay's Irish Pub was a nice place.

At night when I was there, it was mostly a young tourist crowd hanging out in the bars. New condominium apartment buildings have been built in Cabarete since I was there, so I don't know if the crowd in Cabarete has changed. Years ago Domincan chicas who I knew, liked to go to cabarete (non-pro type chicas).

There is at least one gym in sosua. Many guys go snorkeling or scuba diving when they visit sosua. Some guys go and play golf.

There are a set of river falls in puerto plata, that I have read are interesting. There is a cable car to the Jesus statue in Puerto Plata. I have seen tourists on all terrain vehicles on the side of the road between sosua and puerto plata, no idea how much fun that might be to do. There used to be a water-park in Sosua, not sure if it is open.

There are tour operators in Sosua, that offer various excursions.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1159729]Who wrote Sosua is dead?

I read the recent posts and guys are saying there are still plenty of chicas in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Jao, Sosua is not dead, just on "death watch". It's not what it was, but there is still pussy there. Day time activities with the girls is not what it used to be. There used to be so many day adventures that most guy's didn't give a fuck if they fucked at night. Plus GFE was the norm during the day. The "New Sosua" is not the "old Sosua'. The girl's are scared and the guy's are confused. Guy's talk about its only 100 girl's now when before there were 300 girl's, and say it's still pussy there. Me personally, I like unlimited options verses sharing my 100 girl's with 50 mongerers.

Jao when are at the point where it's 25 girl's working and 50 mongerers, some will say Sosua is not dead and it's plenty of pussy there. If anyone experienced the "old Sosua" in it's heyday, with adventure and energy, the "new Sosua" will always be a fading version. But it's not dead yet, and after the upcoming election it may return, but for now the "New Sosua" is on "death watch".

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1159584]Where the fuck is Coolie high? Is he still in the "Old Sosua" rehab facility for displaced mogerers? Somebody call the "A Team"now. Have BA, Hannible, and Face bust Coolie and Murdock out asap.[/QUOTE]LMFAO Naw Mr. Gogo I'm still here. Just been laying in the cut stacking this bread up for my upcoming trip in August. Plan to hit Haiti and then head to Sosua. I'm really curious to see what Sosua will be when I get there. There's just been soo many conflicting reports that I just got to see it for myself.

Hey AlwaysHorney#2 thanks for the shout-out. Be sure to report back your adventures in the promise land. Blk Big Bootyluv I'm digging reading your adventures in Mr. Gogo forum.

Fellow mongers quick question. Wanted to know do anybody has a number to a limo company in DR. This might sound a little crazy but after I visit Haiti and cross the border to DR I wanted to possibly have a big limo meet me at the boarder with a few girls waiting for me.

68 days. 19hrs. 50mins and 20 secs til I'm back in the promise land.

Helpful post, as usual, J.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1159738]Jose O'Shay's Irish Pub was a nice place.[/QUOTE]It is nice but takes advantage of its fame to charge rip-off prices.

[QUOTE=Amb832;1159574]Damn. Looks like Sosua is going to be dead by time I go there in July.[/QUOTE]How many new putas do you need to fuck each day? If more than ten per day then consider going somewhere else. Anything less and you will find all you need in Sosua at affordable prices.

No, Sosua is not what it was in the daytime and you need to manage your arrangements more carefully, liking taking phone numbers or making dates for the following day with chicas you meet at night who you fancy.

The real question is where can you go that is as cheap for the same level of chica (after including your airfare, hotel, etc). SE Asia obviously, but you may be like me for whom SE Asia girls hold little appeal. Colombia? To avoid paying high prices you will need some Spanish and be confident getting around sizable cities. (Same applies to Santo Domingo and Santiago which have a learning curve).

You spoke of "somewhere else". What alternatives do you have in mind?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1159862]Helpful post, as usual, J.

It is nice but takes advantage of its fame to charge rip-off prices. [/QUOTE]That's true, but whats also true if your expecting "ON PAR" USA quality BAR FOOD your going to be completely disappointed. After about 4 days in the D. R. We had a table of 10 and everybody was hoping for some resemblance of good USA style bar food to, lets just say it was "dominicanized" Soggy french fries, I fucked up and ordered a RUBEN, funny tasting meat and cheese, little things that make or beak your meal.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1159868]That's true, but whats also true if your expecting "ON PAR" USA quality BAR FOOD your going to be completely disappointed. After about 4 days in the D. R. We had a table of 10 and everybody was hoping for some resemblance of good USA style bar food to, lets just say it was "dominicanized" Soggy french fries, I fucked up and ordered a RUBEN, funny tasting meat and cheese, little things that make or beak your meal.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I have no sympathy with you at all.

When I went to France I didn't order Italian food, or vice versa. You need to order what the country or area does best. Good Dominican food is very good (good Haitian food even better, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?). Imitation American food done by Dominicans is usually sub-standard, which is why Dominican Billy's bar was so appreciated by North Americans (especially sports fans) because he cooked stuff like you guys enjoyed it back home.

I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1159879]Sorry, I have no sympathy with you at all.

When I went to France I didn't order Italian food, or vice versa. You need to order what the country or area does best. Good Dominican food is very good (good Haitian food even better, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?). Imitation American food done by Dominicans is usually sub-standard, which is why Dominican Billy's bar was so appreciated by North Americans (especially sports fans) because he cooked stuff like you guys enjoyed it back home.

I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast. [/QUOTE]Ditto.

Ah, the good ol' fashioned sense!

Bless

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1159879]Sorry, I have no sympathy with you at all.

When I went to France I didn't order Italian food, or vice versa. You need to order what the country or area does best. Good Dominican food is very good (good Haitian food even better, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?). Imitation American food done by Dominicans is usually sub-standard, which is why Dominican Billy's bar was so appreciated by North Americans (especially sports fans) because he cooked stuff like you guys enjoyed it back home.

I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast. [/QUOTE]Haha, Chuck I'm not looking for your sympathy. Of course I should have known better but I figured it was Jose O'sheas and everything looks GREAT in the little picture on the menu and when they charge 300-400 pesos in the DR for a sandwich I figured I better be getting some good eats. Not something that's just palatable or "good enough" In the D. R. There's only so many ways I can enjoy chicken, mangu, arroz why habicheulas.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1159862]Helpful post, as usual, J.

It is nice but takes advantage of its fame to charge rip-off prices.[/QUOTE]I only drank beer there, at a table facing the beach, looking at some white tourist chicas titties, who were sunbathing topless.

In the DR I am mostly on a liquid diet, presidente cerveza, coca cola, Baileys, vodka and tequila.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1159765]Jao, Sosua is not dead, just on "death watch". It's not what it was, but there is still pussy there. Day time activities with the girls is not what it used to be. There used to be so many day adventures that most guy's didn't give a fuck if they fucked at night. Plus GFE was the norm during the day. The "New Sosua" is not the "old Sosua'. The girl's are scared and the guy's are confused. Guy's talk about its only 100 girl's now when before there were 300 girl's, and say it's still pussy there. Me personally, I like unlimited options verses sharing my 100 girl's with 50 mongerers.

Jao when are at the point where it's 25 girl's working and 50 mongerers, some will say Sosua is not dead and it's plenty of pussy there. If anyone experienced the "old Sosua" in it's heyday, with adventure and energy, the "new Sosua" will always be a fading version. But it's not dead yet, and after the upcoming election it may return, but for now the "New Sosua" is on "death watch".[/QUOTE]It is hot as hell in the daytime, with the blazing sun in Sosua. I did 10 trips or more to Sosua, starting ten years ago. I never really saw too many dimes walking around Sosua in the daytime. Some of the chicas I did see in the daytime looked much better, when I saw them at night in low light conditions.

Lots of Dominican chicas don't like to be out in the sun. Some pros sleep late, some pros take care of their children in the daytime. When I was in Sosua there were always more chicas out and about in the night time.

When I visited Sosua there was always a good percentage of fat, not very sexy chicas walking around.

For a newbie going to Sosua, he will have not have prior experiences to compare to it, so more than likely he will enjoy sosua.

I am a late night person, in Sosua some nights I would stay out till 6am.

You visited Sosua after I stopped going to Sosua, so you experienced a different Sosua than what I saw.

Authentic Haitian cuisine takes some getting used to.

It certainly beats La Bandera, though, many a times, that's my preferred power breakfast.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1159879]Sorry, I have no sympathy with you at all.

When I went to France I didn't order Italian food, or vice versa. You need to order what the country or area does best. Good Dominican food is very good (good Haitian food even better, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?). Imitation American food done by Dominicans is usually sub-standard, which is why Dominican Billy's bar was so appreciated by North Americans (especially sports fans) because he cooked stuff like you guys enjoyed it back home.

I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast.[/QUOTE]

Actually, Mr. Gogo, I would label the town as being on "death watch" based upon my last experience. The reason I say this is because there were not a lot of chicas around during the day. The town itself was kinda quiet and empty. Even if the nightime activity has tailed off some, it is still greater than anything I have ever witnessed in Chicago. Plus, you throw in the warm weather and just the opportunity to RELAX. I think I will still have a great time. The young lady I met on my last visit blew my ass out the park. I was playing it chill, but she had me. Quality over quantity any day, so if I find someone of her caliber again, I will probably just wife her up the entire trip. But I doubt it! LOL.

I remember the last time I was there, it was this other super-fine honey and was kicking myself for being soo wrapped up in my chica. Boy, if I could have changed things around. Anyway, it is something about these chicas that exudes sexuality and passion. I would love to bring one to the Chi for the weekend and have these locals green with envy. This is why I am coming. I can't find this nowhere close. You guys have been there and done that soo many times that you are spoiled. I won't exactly act like a kid in a candy store, but I'm sure I will still be blown away. The guys I'm go with get excited over South Beach, so I know they will be grinning from ear to ear.

Lastly, my reason for learning spanish. And eventually I want to become fluent. Is because I want to progress to the level of having real conversations with the chicas and be able to communicate freely and really get my mack on. When I was in Santo Domingo I met a chica soo ridiculously smoking hot, but I couldn't maintain the communication when I returned home because of the language barrier. She was by far the most incredible physical specimen that I had the opportunity to get interested in me. That shit still bugs the hell out of me to this day. AND SHE WAS NOT A PUTA! DAMN! Think Beyonce times 5! The reason I say that she was not a puta is because she never once mentioned money and there was no way I was getting a piece of that ass without some serious time invested. I would have really wifed her up.

On another note, I hate these american bitches! Stuck up ho's for no reason. Average looks and no money. That is why I fuck them and flee. They expect the world and give little in return. I'm tired of playing the game with them. I would really love to explore the entire DR and not just the mongering areas. I think this country has soo much to offer. Much more than a cheap fuck! I'm real jealous of BBL.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1159863]How many new putas do you need to fuck each day? If more than ten per day then consider going somewhere else. Anything less and you will find all you need in Sosua at affordable prices.

No, Sosua is not what it was in the daytime and you need to manage your arrangements more carefully, liking taking phone numbers or making dates for the following day with chicas you meet at night who you fancy.

The real question is where can you go that is as cheap for the same level of chica (after including your airfare, hotel, etc). SE Asia obviously, but you may be like me for whom SE Asia girls hold little appeal. Colombia? To avoid paying high prices you will need some Spanish and be confident getting around sizable cities. (Same applies to Santo Domingo and Santiago which have a learning curve).

You spoke of "somewhere else". What alternatives do you have in mind?[/QUOTE]I saw airfare to Thailand yesterday from new york, almost 2 thousand dollars. Usually I fly round-trip to Dom Rep for around $400. 3 hours or so, in an airplane is tolerable. DR has a mix of chicas, big girls, small girls, thin or chubbie, dark to light skin.

Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaïland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).

I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.

I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.

Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.

Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.

IMHO, of course.

Nikkon

[QUOTE=Nikkon; 1159961]Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaïland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).

I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.

I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.

Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.

Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.

IMHO, of course.

Nikkon[/QUOTE]Great first post and not too much wrong with your English. Another nail in the coffin for all the moaning minnies about Sosua. They are like spoilt children who cannot have everything their way. Sosua has its defects as do all monger spots but is hard to beat for good value within easy reach of much of the USA.

[QUOTE=Nikkon;1159961]Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european[/QUOTE]Hey! We English are Europeans too, you know! (Not very good ones sometimes, I must admit).

[QUOTE=Nikkon; 1159961]Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaïland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).

I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.

I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.

Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.

Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.

IMHO, of course.

Nikkon[/QUOTE]Many european guys prefer darker skin chicas. North Coast including Puerto Plata and Sosua has more darker skin chicas. In Santo Domingo I see very few Haitianas. Santo Domingo is a big city with some very fine chicas.

Thanks for reporting and have fun

I'm heading to Sosua next week for my 1st time too. The latest posts just about changed my mind. But after reading this, I'll give it my best shot. Cuming in Wed from Miami via AA and should be having my first brew around 4 or so. Where (and when) is happy hour, anyway, for newbies?

Dan.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1159972]Great first post and not too much wrong with your English. Another nail in the coffin for all the moaning minnies about Sosua. They are like spoilt children who cannot have everything their way. Sosua has its defects as do all monger spots but is hard to beat for good value within easy reach of much of the USA.

Hey! We English are Europeans too, you know! (Not very good ones sometimes, I must admit). [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nikkon; 1159961]Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaïland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).

I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.

I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.

Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.

Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.

IMHO, of course.

Nikkon[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update and quick report!

[QUOTE=Nikkon; 1159961]Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaïland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).

I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.

I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.

Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.

Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.

IMHO, of course.

Nikkon[/QUOTE]This is spot on. Yes, Sosua has changed, and in some ways for the better. But there's still tons of pussy available.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man69;1159986]Where (and when) is happy hour, anyway, for newbies?[/QUOTE]Are you aware that "happy hour" in Sosua refers to taking two putas at once for a threesome? Of course it is also used by bars, etc. for a cheap drinking time, but not often. Dominicans aren't big on "special offers" or discounts.

Guess its a throw back from my military days. Been used to happy hours after missions, or when arriving in new places in Korea, Philippines. Seems the old timers always took pride in parading in the fresh meat (us) or "cherrys" to get them initiated or indoctrinated, or as we say "our intel briefing". Usually ended with a "happy hr". Sometimes even drink specials!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1160070]Are you aware that "happy hour" in Sosua refers to taking two putas at once for a threesome? Of course it is also used by bars, etc. for a cheap drinking time, but not often. Dominicans aren't big on "special offers" or discounts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dan The Man69;1160162]Guess its a throw back from my military days. Been used to happy hours after missions, or when arriving in new places in Korea, Philippines. Seems the old timers always took pride in parading in the fresh meat (us) or "cherrys" to get them initiated or indoctrinated, or as we say "our intel briefing". Usually ended with a "happy hr". Sometimes even drink specials![/QUOTE]So "happy hour" meaning "a threesome" is used all over the world, not just in the DR? I didn't know that. I had only heard it refer to a cheap booze time, but I never travelled outside Europe.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1159879]I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast.[/QUOTE]I have not had a good cup of tea yet in DR, black Assam tea, sugar and half and half. There used to a German baker in Sosua, off Pedro Clisante, not far from Passions, not sure if he is still open.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1159977]Many european guys prefer darker skin chicas. North Coast including Puerto Plata and Sosua has more darker skin chicas. In Santo Domingo I see very few Haitianas. Santo Domingo is a big city with some very fine chicas.

Thanks for reporting and have fun[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right Jaosousa : I prefer "mulatas" and there is a lot here in Sosua; and a lot of haîtians girls too, they seem more crazy and more strange than dominican girls, and all have extension hair, I mean artificial and beautiful long hair, perhaps to hide their original frizzy hair.

You're right too because there is more beautiful light skin in Santo Domingo, in the bars of avenida Venezuela, and in the strip clubs. Not my cup of tea.

Thanks to you

[QUOTE=Nikkon;1160255]I prefer "mulatas" and there are a lot here in Sosua[/QUOTE]Has anyone ever heard the word "mulatas" used by those living in the DR (whether Dominicans, Haitians, or established ex-pats)? I have been coming for six years including the last two living here, and I cannot ever recall having heard it except from newbies coming from other countries where it is used.

But I only know the North Coast. Maybe it is used in other areas or social groups?

[QUOTE=Nikkon;1160255]... a lot of Haitian girls too, they seem more crazy and more strange than Dominican girls, and all have extension hair, I mean artificial and beautiful long hair, perhaps to hide their original frizzy hair.[/QUOTE]My Haitian girlfriend does most anything to please me, but I cannot persuade her to stop using extensions. I don't see anything beautiful about them. I like women the way God made them without anything artificial (piercings, tattoos, breast implants, colored contact lenses, etc). I have yet to meet a Haitian who could afford top quality soft-hair extensions (they are incredibly expensive) and the cheaper ones are like wirewool, trap the sweat and stink after a time.

Not sure why you think haitianas are more crazy, unless you are mixing with drug takers. Avoid these! More strange? Maybe a bit, but their cultural background is different. If you were French you might feel they were less strange than dominicanas.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1160257]Has anyone ever heard the word "mulatas" used by those living in the DR (whether Dominicans, Haitians, or established ex-pats)? I have been coming for six years including the last two living here, and I cannot ever recall having heard it except from newbies coming from other countries where it is used.

But I only know the North Coast. Maybe it is used in other areas or social groups? [/QUOTE]Yes, mulatas is a brazilian term, used too in Colombia. Here in DR, morenas or negras

[QUOTE=Combo;1160053]This is spot on. Yes, Sosua has changed, and in some ways for the better. But there's still tons of pussy available.[/QUOTE]This post is on the spot. Boots on the ground here with reports to follow. It is no way near the way it was last November; but plenty of women play with!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1160260]My Haitian girlfriend does most anything to please me, but I cannot persuade her to stop using extensions. I don't see anything beautiful about them. I like women the way God made them without anything artificial (piercings, tattoos, breast implants, colored contact lenses, etc). I have yet to meet a Haitian who could afford top quality soft-hair extensions (they are incredibly expensive) and the cheaper ones are like wirewool, trap the sweat and stink after a time.

Not sure why you think haitianas are more crazy, unless you are mixing with drug takers. Avoid these! More strange? Maybe a bit, but their cultural background is different. If you were French you might feel they were less strange than dominicanas.[/QUOTE]Chris Rock the comedian did a documentary about hair (probably on HBO) , which included segments about hair extensions. There is some temple in India where Indian woman go and have their hair shaved off. The hair is then sold to made into hair extensions and sold internationally. Lots of Dominican chicas also use hair extensions.

Stayed at NG and hardly left the place, enough putas to put a smile on my face daily. Bars at night had plenty to choose from, I just don't like staying out that late. Police were arresting the chicas day or night time walking down the street, especailly with a tourist. Not sure what they ever accomplish. I had about 12 chicas. The wicked looking one you would never show to your mama was the best actress etc, spinner of course. Finished the week with a gal with a great smile, big tits and a BJ ending with cmt. NG and all the hotels were slow, occupancy 20% to 50% at best. Tough times and off season. Staff at NG were excellent along with all the mongers that drop by or stay there. I like to Dive and used Dive Cabarete, pick you up in the AM and drop you back at the hotel just past noon, personal service, great staff. Met alot of mongers who stay in Sosua for weeks, not sure how they can last that long.

Sosua has changed some what, but there is plenty of putas to keep you happy. More police presence, but that is okay, keeps the trouble away.

Decided not to post pictures, just sent them to friends. Chicas don't want them posted and since I always return to the DR, need to keep them happy.

[QUOTE=Mose; 1160285]Stayed at NG and hardly left the place, enough putas to put a smile on my face daily. Bars at night had plenty to choose from, I just don't like staying out that late. Police were arresting the chicas day or night time walking down the street, especailly with a tourist. Not sure what they ever accomplish. I had about 12 chicas. The wicked looking one you would never show to your mama was the best actress etc, spinner of course. Finished the week with a gal with a great smile, big tits and a BJ ending with cmt. NG and all the hotels were slow, occupancy 20% to 50% at best. Tough times and off season. Staff at NG were excellent along with all the mongers that drop by or stay there. I like to Dive and used Dive Cabarete, pick you up in the AM and drop you back at the hotel just past noon, personal service, great staff. Met alot of mongers who stay in Sosua for weeks, not sure how they can last that long.

Sosua has changed some what, but there is plenty of putas to keep you happy. More police presence, but that is okay, keeps the trouble away.

Decided not to post pictures, just sent them to friends. Chicas don't want them posted and since I always return to the DR, need to keep them happy.[/QUOTE]Good post. I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.

[QUOTE=Mose; 1160285] Police were arresting the chicas day or night time walking down the street, especailly with a tourist. Not sure what they ever accomplish [/QUOTE]

I thought they were leaving chicas ALONE if they were accompanied with a john? This contrary to what I've been reading. On what grounds would they have to approach a tourist and his girl? Sounds funny and unlikely but what if it really was your girlfriend? I would get highly offended. What happens to the John when they get interrogated and she is found to be a puta? Do you have to start making up corresponding stories with your puta? In some recent DR report thread I heard of some touristas being arrested as well? This is some real B. S.

[QUOTE=Mose;1160285]Police were arresting the chicas day or night time walking down the street, especailly with a tourist. Not sure what they ever accomplish.[/QUOTE]Maybe they are weeding out (arresting) girls that they don't control, leaving you to pick through the ones they (the police) are pimping. It could very well turn out that the freelancers in the New Sou. aren't in fact freelancers at all! What else could explain why some girls are arrested while others aren't?

With places like CMP and La Passions,"strong-arming / controlling pussy" might be the new business model for the town. Irregardless of the fact that most chicas spend their money on clothes, the salon, and other bullshit, they were still making money hand-over-fist in the old Sosua, with the only middle man being her boyfriend or family member. Now you've got the police up your ass at ever corner (guess they were feeling left out). Earlier this week someone reported Johns are being arrested as well; it's only a matter of time before the "shake-down" reports start to roll in.

Other than that, I'm not sure why the place looks to be becoming more and more like a police state. Enjoy it while you can.

P.S.: I do not believe we have witnessed the total transformation of the New Sosua just yet. With chicas being "selectively arrested" I think the aim is more psychological than anything. Doesn't sound like they want to "tolerate" the nightlife scene there. Just slowly chip away at it until eventually you have what Mr. Gogo is predicting: 100 mongers and 25 chicas. At that point it's "game over" lol.

It worked with the streetwalker scene in SD. Just saying.

On another note, I hate these american bitches! Stuck up ho's for no reason. Average looks and no money. That is why I fuck them and flee. They expect the world and give little in return. I'm tired of playing the game with them. I would really love to explore the entire DR and not just the mongering areas. I think this country has soo much to offer. Much more than a cheap fuck! I'm real jealous of BBL.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more man!

[quote=savepros321; 1160317]maybe they are weeding out (arresting) girls that they don't control, leaving you to pick through the ones they (the police) are pimping. it could very well turn out that the freelancers in the new sou. aren't in fact freelancers at all! what else could explain why some girls are arrested while others aren't?

with places like cmp and la passions,"strong-arming / controlling pussy" might be the new business model for the town. irregardless of the fact that most chicas spend their money on clothes, the salon, and other bullshit, they were still making money hand-over-fist in the old sosua, with the only middle man being her boyfriend or family member. now you've got the police up your ass at ever corner (guess they were feeling left out). earlier this week someone reported johns are being arrested as well; it's only a matter of time before the "shake-down" reports start to roll in.

other than that, i'm not sure why the place looks to be becoming more and more like a police state. enjoy it while you can.

p. s. : i do not believe we have witnessed the total transformation of the new sosua just yet. with chicas being "selectively arrested" i think the aim is more psychological than anything. doesn't sound like they want to "tolerate" the nightlife scene there. just slowly chip away at it until eventually you have what mr. gogo is predicting: 100 mongers and 25 chicas. at that point it's "game over" lol.

it worked with the streetwalker scene in sd. just saying. [/quote]they picked the holiday, when alot of people are traveling, to make sure the point is made. now you can't even leave classicos without your girl being questioned. pretty soon its going to be pussy only at la passions and cmp.

anyone on the ground soon please pay attention to how many non dominican women are partying at night.

also i just read that a couple retired canadian cops have just been hired for traffic control wtf. they are working cabarette now, with more possibly headed to sosua. could the next thing be "mongerer police"? they will search you for condoms, break down your room door to confirep001e you lube and porn, and have chicas undercover tricking to do a reverse sting. or a mongerer paddy wagon with mongerers in it looking depressed as they parade us around sosua. nah just talking shit so newbies don't be scared, just have the mongerers attorney on retainer lmao.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1160301]I thought they were leaving chicas ALONE if they were accompanied with a john? This contrary to what I've been reading. On what grounds would they have to approach a tourist and his girl? Sounds funny and unlikely but what if it really was your girlfriend? I would get highly offended. What happens to the John when they get interrogated and she is found to be a puta? Do you have to start making up corresponding stories with your puta? In some recent DR report thread I heard of some touristas being arrested as well? This is some real B. S.[/QUOTE]An ISG member posted info from an article in which the commander of the Politur for Sosua said there had been around 200 arrests of chicas and 5 arrests of foreigners. I read part of the article and did not see anything about the foreigners being arrested in regards to prostitution. I have been in Sosua and seen drunk foreign guys get into fights and I have seen the police come and take the drunk fighters away.

I have not read anything about any guys being arrested for soliciting or using the services of prostitutes with adult women in the DR.

I can remember posts of guys being ripped off by some DR chicas in Sosua, pickpockets or stealing stuff from a guy's hotel room in Sosua. If the police can weed out the chicas who are would be thieves, then that is a good thing.

Fat, ugly chicas grabbing your nut sack hard as you walk on the sidewalk is not always a pleasant experience.

I will be in Sosua in August. I have always been very picky and only go for the skinny HARD BODY types. I'm talking about the girls that have close to 0% body fat and super flat stomach's. Skinny all around. *especially* the light skinned ones. Very tight but, and skinny legs. Perhaps even a nice gap between the legs. You guys know what I'm talking about.

Does anyone know a specific girl they can recommend. Or better yet, want to share contact information of one that would like to hang out for a week in my private villa? The problem is that the Villa is in an AI resort, so I would rather check-in with someone from day one than try to go through the hassle of getting her in later.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160288]Good post. I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE]Nikkon and Tomjackin are on the ground in Sosua and they post there are plenty of pros available. Mose, Combo, Manizales and Charles Pooter also post that mongering is not bad in Sosua now. Jfregedie was recently in Sosua and I believe he posted that he loves Sosua and seems he had a blast there.

I really can't remember reading a recent Sosua trip report that says it is terrible for mongering currently.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160288]Good post. I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE]I personally don't like that other site and very rarely do I read that site. There are people on that other site who are highly anti-mongering and they may write stuff that benefits their personal agenda. Some may own real estate in parts of the DR and their agenda might be to discourage mongering activities with the hopes that the value of their estate might go up.

Not looking good for my trip in July. Since I bought my plane ticket and got room already I guess I'm stuck in Sosua. Are there any cities near by where you can get a chick easily without worrying about police or risk getting arrested?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160288]Good post. I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE]I went and read some of the forums on that other site, I saw one thread started by a guy who said a friend told him the police are turning up the heat in Sosua, (whatever that means and the guy who posted that is not even in Sosua). I didn't see anything about police entering discos in Sosua harassing people. If you can email the link for where you read that, it would appreciated.

[QUOTE=Amb832;1160451]Not looking good for my trip in July. Since I bought my plane ticket and got room already I guess I'm stuck in Sosua. Are there any cities near by where you can get a chick easily without worrying about police or risk getting arrested?[/QUOTE]Six experienced Mongers have posted reports recently saying that there is plenty of pussy in Sosua, you seem to only focus on the posts that imply Sosua is not good for mongering.

If a guy can't get pussy in Sosua, I'll buy that guy a bottle of patron tequila.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1160444]Nikkon and Tomjackin are on the ground in Sosua and they post there are plenty of pros available. Mose, Combo, Manizales and [b]Charles Pooter[/b] Also post that mongering is not bad in Sosua now. Jfregedie was recently in Sosua and I believe he posted that he loves Sosua and seems he had a blast there.

I really can't remember reading a recent Sosua trip report that says it is terrible for mongering currently. [/QUOTE]Flattering to be named as someone whose opinion counts, but I must say that I know fuck all about the current scene in Sosua from first-hand experience as I am stuck at home in Puerto Plata after my operation. But I do read the two main monger boards covering the town, and have friends actually living there whom I speak to most days, so I can get a consensus assessment which is better than just one man's opinion. My assessment is that all the doom and gloom is wildly exaggerrated and that newbies will still have a great time (unless they fuck it up for themselves).

But that is now. What the near future will bring I have no idea. There are all sorts of conspiracy theories. And if there is a marked change in policy or police procedures overnight, I will be the last to know.

[QUOTE=Mose; 1160285]Stayed at NG and hardly left the place, enough putas to put a smile on my face daily. Bars at night had plenty to choose from, I just don't like staying out that late.

Sosua has changed some what, but there is plenty of putas to keep you happy. More police presence, but that is okay, keeps the trouble away. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the post.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1156903]Amb832,

You will have a blast. Remember though, during the week there might only be 100 girls to choose from instead of 300, hahaha. It's kind of like going to the candy store and instead of having 20 kinds of bubblegum the store is now only carrying 15, who gives a shit, I still have 15 kinds to choose from which is plenty in my opinion. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Manizales911;1159176]One of my wingmen just got back from Sosua on Friday and he told me Peter has cleaned house once again at Passions, about thirty new girls and quite a few stunners.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1159863]How many new putas do you need to fuck each day? If more than ten per day then consider going somewhere else. Anything less and you will find all you need in Sosua at affordable prices.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nikkon; 1159961]Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaïland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).

I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.

I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.

Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.

Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.

IMHO, of course.

Nikkon[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Combo;1160053]This is spot on. Yes, Sosua has changed, and in some ways for the better. But there's still tons of pussy available.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tomjackin;1160265]This post is on the spot. Boots on the ground here with reports to follow. It is no way near the way it was last November; but plenty of women play with![/QUOTE]

[quote=amb832;1160451]not looking good for my trip in july. since i bought my plane ticket and got room already i guess i'm stuck in sosua. are there any cities near by where you can get a chick easily without worrying about police or risk getting arrested?[/quote]you stand no chance of getting arrested unless you behave disgustingly, do drugs, are involved in fights, pick up **** girls, etc. stop thinking like a browbeaten american and act like a man.

whether any chica with you will get arrested is a different matter. i don't believe some of the more alarmist posts, though it is obviously going on spasmodically. but that is not your problem unless you choose to make it so. just walk away and find another one. there are still plenty as current reports are showing.

puerto plata is more laid back but lacks the convenience of sosua for newbies where all is concentrated within one square mile.

relax, friend. you will have a great time. is it your first visit? just meet up with mongers at the new garden or shark bar (is it open?) or rockys or black box and they will get you started.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1160454]I went and read some of the forums on that other site, I saw one thread started by a guy who said a friend told him the police are turning up the heat in Sosua, (whatever that means and the guy who posted that is not even in Sosua). I didn't see anything about police entering discos in Sosua harassing people. If you can email the link for where you read that, it would appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm at a marathon poker game so I don't have to much time now to be pulling up other posts. I never said police were entering the discos, I said they were at the discos. Some guy posted that 4 policemen were at the bottom of Classicos harassing chicas. There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1160454]I went and read some of the forums on that other site, I saw one thread started by a guy who said a friend told him the police are turning up the heat in Sosua, (whatever that means and the guy who posted that is not even in Sosua). I didn't see anything about police entering discos in Sosua harassing people. If you can email the link for where you read that, it would appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm at a marathon poker game so I don't have to much time now to be pulling up other posts. I never said police were entering the discos, I said they were at the discos. Some guy posted that 4 policemen were at the bottom of Classicos harassing chicas. There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.

Landed at noon on a Thurs. Stayed a terra linda. 69$ king can be had if you pay cash. Only place I have ever stayed. Clean and good food. No hotel chica problems ever. Just make sure they are of age. They do check the I'd's an ages.

Went straight to passions at 1pm. Only one girl. Got a 1300 1hr massage w BBBJ she was skinny a little dark but with perfect natural tits and great eyes and smile and teeth and hair. Drank presidente waiting for the A team. Seemed like 3 girls at 2pm. 5 girls at 3pm took another massage w BBBJ short girl light skin w big ass and also young. Maybe 20yrs. Place was full around 5-6ish. Girls are real cute and fun. Love to pay the 1300 for massage and BBBJ. Stupid not too. Use to be 1500 but with CMP opening down the road and charging 1500 this place drop their price to 1300. Thats what I think happened anyway. The 1hr fuck for 2500 is good too. Thats what all the girls are shooting for. I tipped the 1300 massage 500 each time. I told them in advance when they are trying to sell me the 2500 hour. I was say 500 propina if best effort on BBBJ. Lick and suck ball etc. Both times girls worked up quite a sweat to get

That extra 500 propina. If they started jerking it too much I would say 500 propina for best suck not jerk job. 1800 for massage and BBBJ is not bad guys. Sorry guys I know you all don't want to hear that. They were super happy knowing the propina was going to happen. Sometimes I noticed they looked sad going in for the 1300 massage. Again they really want the 2500 hr fuck.

So if you going to get picky come after 6pm for sure. The girls here are FUN and HOT. Can't beat it really. Went to crystals to compare will add to report later. So stayed until later and got takeout with hot tall light beauty. She isn't on website. Most girls aren't. There was 1 girl from Argentina and venezula too. Girl I got takeout with gave the best and wettest BBBJ ever. She smelled great. Used condom for fuck. She was great I took her out again the next night. Anal both nights with this girl too. Not too long tho I am not really into anal too much. Nice to know they are 3 holers tho. She stuck it in herself. These DR girls bring the heat way more then the mexican girls in Tijuana! Or anywhere I have ever been for P4P.

Friday friend flew in from FL. It was his first time to DR. He already has a ticket to go again in Nov LOL. So he wanted to go to beach immediatley. So up and down the beach lookn for seats w view of more girls. Just not much on the beach. So hot girl talks us into her beach chairs. She serves us food and drinks. I ask her to join. We all drink big presidente. I ask her back and we go fuck 1500. She showered up nice and suck and fucked me good. Another tight hot 20yr old. Luv it. Brang toys they all loved the magic wand. Everyone should have one. Took friend to passions. Did the massage w takeout girl from other night. Then at 10pm I buy her out again. So same girl thur and Friday. Mmmmmmmmm almost fell for her. So much fun and she hung on every word during our conversation. Decided to move on the rest of my time there. I was really falling for this girl.

Sat am massage w HE from haitan girl in massage store. Got to kick down some funds to the haitans on each visit. Luv grabbn that muscle ass while they suck me off at end of massage. Sat night at classicos. Took hottie to casino club. Did a somehing that wasn't beer with her for hell of it. Ruined my night. Dick not hard and no sleep and felt like shit most of Sunday! Could of ruined most of my short vacation. Never again. Not good for dick or sleep. Gave her agreed 4000 to leave at 10am after still no hard-on LOL. Put some toys on her for 5min but just wasn't into it. Upset at myself more then anything.

Sunday am felt like shit from sat night. Got massage an still came but I had to go in for the assist. Didn't think I would even get hard. Went to crystals in puerta plata 8pmish. Slow compared to passions. Girls not as hot and no customers. Girls will mob you. Only one option 100$ US for fuck. Took crazy allstar dancer there paualo cause I was tired of being mobbed by big horney girls. She sucked me off in 12min. Kept me hard fuckn and sucking the whole time. Best sex I ever had. Put ice on my dick etc. Crazy fun girl. Anal on menu but more $. I just let her fuck and suck me. She did alot of anal play. Sucking my dick from behind while I am in doggie. LOL tonguing my ass a ton. She was short and light skinned w red hair and freckles. She went nuts and never even broke a sweat. She sang most the time and was super passionate. Still like passions better but go try this gem. WOW!

Just to be sure went to passions one more time immediatly after Crystals. Girls better at passions. Left passions for one more classico run. Wasn't going to get a girl since I was nutted out. Girl in classico talked me into long slow BBBJ for whatever I wanted to pay. I give in and she is sucking me and got tired in 10min. She said lets fuck I said ok. We fuck for 5 min and I wasn't into it. I put toys on her and she complained. I gave her 2000 and told her to just go. She said NO we fucked I want 4000. L laughed and she called pimp and started to get loud. I gave her another 1000 and decided just to stick to passions in the future. You can always talk to their bosses if they do something real stupid.

Be careful hookn up with the classico girls. So make sure you set the price and you know what you are getting for that price. I can see the girl wanting more money for fuckn but she was only there for 20-min and I paid 3000. LOL she was dark and had a tattoo that looked like a Van Halen symbol on her back. So whatever I guess I deserved that last bit. Since I didn't really solidify what I wanted and for how much. I just brushed it off and thought of Paulo at Crystals and all the fun I had at passions.

CMP looked like crap. Went in 3 times and didn't even get a beer. I wanted to but not 1 girl I would want a BBBJ with. Never saw any girls getting hauled away. Did she politurs and bikes and trucks. The were giving the motorcycle guys a hard time too. Daytime pussy can still be found but not as abundant. 1/10 of the street action when I went 1 yr ago. Massage and beach ass is still there to be had. You just won't have a girl grabbn your nuts while you drink a beer in the daytime. NOticed many places closed that were open last visit.

Sorry for bad english and punctuation. Tired an watching Indy 500. I am out! Luv Sosua. DR girls ROCK at least at Passions. Classico's can get tricky at times. I speak very little spanish.

[QUOTE=Amb832;1160451]Not looking good for my trip in July. Since I bought my plane ticket and got room already I guess I'm stuck in Sosua. Are there any cities near by where you can get a chick easily without worrying about police or risk getting arrested?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbZEkFLXh9Y[/url]

Thanks. I needed that. Guess I'm listening to the wrong folks too much. I will have fun.

[QUOTE=Devin226; 1160434]I will be in Sosua in August. I have always been very picky and only go for the skinny HARD BODY types. I'm talking about the girls that have close to 0% body fat and super flat stomach's. Skinny all around. *especially* the light skinned ones. Very tight but, and skinny legs. Perhaps even a nice gap between the legs. You guys know what I'm talking about.

Does anyone know a specific girl they can recommend. Or better yet, want to share contact information of one that would like to hang out for a week in my private villa? The problem is that the Villa is in an AI resort, so I would rather check-in with someone from day one than try to go through the hassle of getting her in later. [/QUOTE]Your best bet are Haitian chicas. They fit this description perfectly. The problem is, I don't know how many have already been run off because of the arrest. Can't help you in the "light-skinned" department though.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1160482]Flattering to be named as someone whose opinion counts, but I must say that I know fuck all about the current scene in Sosua from first-hand experience as I am stuck at home in Puerto Plata after my operation. But I do read the two main monger boards covering the town, and have friends actually living there whom I speak to most days, so I can get a consensus assessment which is better than just one man's opinion. My assessment is that all the doom and gloom is wildly exaggerrated and that newbies will still have a great time (unless they fuck it up for themselves).

But that is now. What the near future will bring I have no idea. There are all sorts of conspiracy theories. And if there is a marked change in policy or police procedures overnight, I will be the last to know. [/QUOTE]One more time, I can tell you what Ilived in Sosua : 3 nights and 3 days walking on the Pedro Clissante street with a lot of chicas available, and ZERO police control for me. I went in El Flow, Latinos, CMP, La Passion and others bars, and finishing the monger-nights in Classicos, at 3 or 4 am ech time, ZERO police control.

I went back to my hôtel 3 times with chicas, two times walking with them on the street at 3 or 4 am for ten minits, ZERO police control. No police in Classicos and other bars during the nights, that what I lived.

One morning, two policemen were front my hôtel and stop "friendly" my chica in the street, with smiles and jokes, but not speaking to me. I was a little worriend for her, and I called on her phone : "Have you problems with the police? Do you want to come back at the hôtel." She said me : "No, don't worry, they just want some money, because these thieves know that if I'm leaving the hôtel on the morning, I have money with me. But I'm used to this, and I let them politely."

I think just that before all was possible, and now there is less tolerance : with chicas too much visible, drunk or extravagants in the streets, with minors of course and with Haîtianas in irregular situation. By example, in my hôtel, they said me that now they can't accept a chica without a I'd like before, ant they have to registrate seriously the chicas, every time.

But in my case, two of the three chicas had no I'd or old papers, but I went with them nevertheless in the room because the hôtel staff was embarrassed but very friendly. They just said me that the things were no not so "open" than before, and that they have more control now about the chicas.

Then, IMHO, Sosua is sitll a monger-paradise. Perhaps just different. Like in Gazcue with a policy and morality pression. (due to the next elections in 2012.)

All this to contribute to the information, and one more time sorry for my poor english school.

[QUOTE=Devin226; 1160434]I will be in Sosua in August. I have always been very picky and only go for the skinny HARD BODY types. I'm talking about the girls that have close to 0% body fat and super flat stomach's. Skinny all around. *especially* the light skinned ones. Very tight but, and skinny legs. Perhaps even a nice gap between the legs. You guys know what I'm talking about.

Does anyone know a specific girl they can recommend. Or better yet, want to share contact information of one that would like to hang out for a week in my private villa? The problem is that the Villa is in an AI resort, so I would rather check-in with someone from day one than try to go through the hassle of getting her in later.[/QUOTE]It would be a big help if you could also tell us more of your desires in order for us to help you. I have provided with you with a short list.

Hair color.

Length of finger nails.

Eye color.

Big nose / small nose.

Inny or outty belly button.

You know, the important stuff, hahaha.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1160415]An ISG member posted info from an article in which the commander of the Politur for Sosua said there had been around 200 arrests of chicas and 5 arrests of foreigners. I read part of the article and did not see anything about the foreigners being arrested in regards to prostitution. I have been in Sosua and seen drunk foreign guys get into fights and I have seen the police come and take the drunk fighters away.

I have not read anything about any guys being arrested for soliciting or using the services of prostitutes with adult women in the DR.

I can remember posts of guys being ripped off by some DR chicas in Sosua, pickpockets or stealing stuff from a guy's hotel room in Sosua. If the police can weed out the chicas who are would be thieves, then that is a good thing.

Fat, ugly chicas grabbing your nut sack hard as you walk on the sidewalk is not always a pleasant experience.[/QUOTE]Jao it's called "Dick Dodging", and it's one of the games we have to play when we put ourselves in an open air sex market. It's kind of like a beautiful girl that has guys touching her shoulder, looking at her ass, and asking what her name is. She learns to manuever in this enviornment. It's just funny that guy's go on sex vacation then get offended when sex is offered aggressively (just say no and keep walking). I worry more about a girl stealing my money.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1160301]I thought they were leaving chicas ALONE if they were accompanied with a john? This contrary to what I've been reading. On what grounds would they have to approach a tourist and his girl? Sounds funny and unlikely but what if it really was your girlfriend? I would get highly offended. What happens to the John when they get interrogated and she is found to be a puta? Do you have to start making up corresponding stories with your puta? In some recent DR report thread I heard of some touristas being arrested as well? This is some real B. S.[/QUOTE]Saw a chica get arrested around 3 pm yesterday near the liquor store. There are less chicas out during the day and some chicas are still scared at night as well of walking alone, but guys are getting phone numbers and having private pool parties and such during the day. Still not overwhelmed with the food options but things have improved. The strip is hopping at night and After One is also happening. The guys from NYC that overpay and the WU guys, I think, are actually bringing in better talent overall because the word has been getting out around the island that there is a lot of money to be made in Sosua. Saw lots of crews of 10 guys hanging together on the weekends. Maybe like 10 groups like this. Still like the talent level in CR better for mongering, but the overall talent in the DR is top notch. Met a lot of "non putas" the last few days that are nice enough for a serious relationship. Many good putas in town also. Overall, the chicas seem to be quoting 2, 000 and up for TLN, unless you have something going on. Guys are certainly paying 2, 000 for short time as well and places like Pasions seem to go 2, 500 and up for4 take out. If you shop around and have game you can get for 1, 000 short time and maybe TLN. I noticed supply exceeded demand on Monday and Tuesday so prices seemed to be more favorable and still good selection. Experienced and / or well connected Sosua mongers won't be affected by any of the BS. The new dudes won't have a frame of reference so I say overall still a good trip if you can afford the airfare.

One more note: less chicas out during the day may present more opportunities for the so-called tour guides that offer to help you find chicas. Be careful with these dudes and remember that at the end of the day you may be paying them for something you can get or find out about on your own. In fact, if you follow sites like this you usually know as much or more than these dudes, but they can be pets and scam artists. Be careful if someone offers you something for free in Sosua, especially if its a dude. Remember. There is always free cheese in a mouse trap.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1160415]An ISG member posted info from an article in which the commander of the Politur for Sosua said there had been around 200 arrests of chicas and 5 arrests of foreigners. I read part of the article and did not see anything about the foreigners being arrested in regards to prostitution.[/QUOTE]Sosua News had the aryicle on same day. [url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2595&article=1[/url]

I was under the impression the 'Foreigners' were Colombian or Russian chicas seeing there is more of them now.

Colombian girls can freely travel to the Dominican Republic there is no qualifications all they need is a Passport and it is easy to get.

Not saying it could of been men arrested but I am thinking no.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1160260]My Haitian girlfriend does most anything to please me, but I cannot persuade her to stop using extensions. I don't see anything beautiful about them. I like women the way God made them without anything artificial (piercings, tattoos, breast implants, colored contact lenses, etc). [/QUOTE]I hate the extensions as well. And that is part of the reason I stopped dating Americans. But I must admit they are widely used here in Thailand and many girls had them in Brazil as well. I don't think they have caught on on other Latin American countries though. If you can't beat em... Fuck em.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1160715]I hate the extensions as well. And that is part of the reason I stopped dating Americans. But I must admit they are widely used here in Thailand and many girls had them in Brazil as well. I don't think they have caught on on other Latin American countries though. If you can't beat em... Fuck em.[/QUOTE]I saw many chicas with extensions and some even with wigs in Sosua. A couple of chicas at Pasions told me the boss preferred it because longer hair makes them look more sexy. The difference between a Dominican chica in the DR and the typical weaved up AA babe in the US is that the chica in Sosua will often still have wash and wear soft hair so you can take out the extensions and just let the hair grow naturally. Haitians are a different story. Just about ever Haitian I saw in Sosua had fake hair. I also noticed there are a lot more Haitians in Clasicos these days. Just an observation, but I'm not attracted to them.

Thanks for the report Bud. Glad you enjoyed yourself.

Paola (currently at Cristal) is great, isn't she? In six years coming here I have only met a handful of putas who are technically good 3-holers but haven't gone hard-core in their general attitude. A real fun companion in and out of bed. I haven't met anyone who has a bad word for her. The guys all leave her drained! No great looker, though, until she starts dancing.

[QUOTE=Bud Leeeeeeee;1160510]Gave her agreed 4000 to leave at 10am after still no hard-on ... Only one option 100$ US for fuck ... she was only there for 20-min and I paid 3000.[/QUOTE]There is a job vacancy for you at the IMF. You have all the qualifications needed. Lots of testosterone and familiarity with very large sums of money with lots of zeros on the end.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1160715]I hate the extensions as well. And that is part of the reason I stopped dating Americans. But I must admit they are widely used here in Thailand and many girls had them in Brazil as well. I don't think they have caught on on other Latin American countries though. If you can't beat em... Fuck em.[/QUOTE]Only hair I care about is pussy hair, I'm tired of shaved pussies.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160505] I never said police were entering the discos, I said they were at the discos. Some guy posted that 4 policemen were at the bottom of Classicos harassing chicas. There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Sosua for the last 1.5 years. And a frequent visitor for 9 years. Periodically, the Poli-Pussys invade Bar Central.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160575]Jao it's called "Dick Dodging", and it's one of the games we have to play when we put ourselves in an open air sex market. It's kind of like a beautiful girl that has guys touching her shoulder, looking at her ass, and asking what her name is. She learns to manuever in this enviornment. It's just funny that guy's go on sex vacation then get offended when sex is offered aggressively (just say no and keep walking). I worry more about a girl stealing my money.[/QUOTE]You have memories of old Sosua and I have memories of old-old sosua. One night my wingman and I were walking to our hotel, we were walking by the building that would become terra linda hotel (back then it was just an empty dark building) , it was around 2am, the street was dark and some chica comes out of nowhere and palms the groin of my wingman very hard, he did not see the chica till the last minute and he was not expecting her to use such force on his junk. It caused him pain and discomfort, he was ready to punch her in the face. If he would have punched her and possibly broken her nose or knocked her teeth out, that would be bad for her and she would probably go to the police.

If in the "New" Sosua with a greater police presence, if such things like this can be prevented, it is best for all involved.

Or maybe my wingman should have been wearing an athletic cup and a pair of night vision goggles.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160509]There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.[/QUOTE]When I want Monger information, I read the ISG. Most guys on the ISG have no ulterior motive to post false or misleading information.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1160808]I have lived in Sosua for the last 1.5 years. And a frequent visitor for 9 years. Periodically, the Poli-Pussys invade Bar Central.[/QUOTE]Thats right I forgot you were boots on the ground, and I think Ricky Rapido lives in one of the surrounding towns.

So Sidney don't forget to let us know when New Garden has an Easter egg hunt for the children and Classicos is turned into the cultural arts center LMAO.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160288]I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160509]I never said police were entering the discos, I said they were at the discos. Some guy posted that 4 policemen were at the bottom of Classicos harassing chicas. There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.[/QUOTE]I went and re-read the forums from that other site. One guy on that other site started a thread about the police crackdown in sosua from information he got from his friend. Another person on that other site said 4 police were at the entrance of Classicos and that person also wrote that the police were all over Pedro Clisante Street arresting ALL the chicas. The person on the other site said the police were arresting ALL the chicas, this doesn't jibe with what I have been reading here on the ISG.

If you prefer to believe what is written on that other site, that is your choice.

Hello, All, new to this. Been to the DR once before but went to Puerto Plata. Heading to Sousa this time. Can anyone recommend a good hotel there. One that won't give you any flack for bringing women in?

[QUOTE=Bayoutony65;1160848]Hello, All, new to this. Been to the DR once before but went to Puerto Plata. Heading to Sousa this time. Can anyone recommend a good hotel there. One that won't give you any flack for bringing women in?[/QUOTE]Your best bet as a newbie is probably New Garden. There are actually chicas right on site if you don't want to go far and its centrally located to the bars. You can google the website. The breakfast comes with the room and is pretty good also. There are about 15 other hotels that are also chica friendly. NG is a good starting point to meet other mongers as well.

I am a believer now.

It doesn't get more convenient than this, the true point and click!

And you are guaranteed to end up w / a chica that has at least somewhat of a brain, and drive, to engage the Internet in her entrepreneurial efforts.

Yenni — 06:48 PM.

HOLA.

Don Antonio — 06:49 PM.

Hola, como estas?

Yenni — 07:00 PM.

BIN Y TU.

Don Antonio — 07:02 PM.

No estoy muy bien. Por eso, estoy en Estados Unidos ahora pero voy a regresar a Sosua el miercoles Cuando tu yo yo vamos a ver la luna juntos?

Yenni — 07:02 PM Yenni sent this message because you have a mutual attraction in the Encounters game!

HOLA.

Yenni — 07:03 PM.

PARA DONDE VIENE.

Don Antonio — 07:04 PM.

No entiendo,"para donde viene".

Yenni — 07:04 PM.

K PARTE DE SOSUA.

Don Antonio — 07:05 PM.

Inicialmente Caribe Campo, El Batey.

Yenni — 07:05 PM.

OK.

Don Antonio — 07:07 PM.

Tu pienses que es un bueno lugar para verla la luna?

Yenni — 07:07 PM.

EN LA PICINA.

Don Antonio — 07:08 PM.

A la noche.

Yenni — 07:10 PM.

CUANDO TU KERE VERME.

Don Antonio — 07:13 PM.

Llamame o mandarme un mensaje despues de miercoles de esta semana. Mi telefono mobil. 829-xxxxxxx.

Don Antonio — 07:13 PM.

Hasta pronto, amor.

Yenni — 07:14.

809 xxxxxxx.

Don Antonio — 07:14 PM.

Gracias, yo lo recibe.

Yenni — 07:16.

ME LLAMA

Is sosua have short term rooms upto three hours for taking girls.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1160895]Is sosua have short term rooms upto three hours for taking girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are several, including "Love" and Cafe Central has rooms behind it. I've heard there are some more down towards the Casino at Playa Chiquita.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1160895]Is sosua have short term rooms upto three hours for taking girls.[/QUOTE]How much are you trying to spend? You can get a cheap room for $25 or less in Sosua. There is also a Cabana nearby but I don 't know their prices.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1160904]How much are you trying to spend? You can get a cheap room for $25 or less in Sosua. There is also a Cabana nearby but I don 't know their prices.[/QUOTE]I am going to stay at All inclusive and need a place for 3 hours a day to spend time with girl

[QUOTE=Chotu;1160906]I am going to stay at All inclusive and need a place for 3 hours a day to spend time with girl[/QUOTE]Bar Central right next to Classicos, Calypso Hotel near the double banks towards Passions.

It was my 6th trip to Sosua in the last 12 months. Although the daytime chica population has shrunk, I saw little to no difference otherwise.

I spent quite a bit of time in CMP. The owner has redone the place adding huge leather couches to hang out in. Most of the girls will leave you alone on the couch until you ask one of them to come over. Drank a few 100 peso Presidente's and met a real hottie who had red hair and a great smile. Paid her exit fee and took her home for the night. She was amazing, great BBBJTC and she rode me like I was a stallion. She was ready to go in the middle of the night and again in the morning, whenever I asked. I have no complaints at all. I went to Passions (lots of girls later at night but if you try before 5 or 6pm, they are empty)

Late nights at Classico each night and took home hotties each night for 2000. 3000. Each time I told her that I would pay 2000 for TLN but if she was amazing, I"the pay her 3000. Each girls worked her ass off for that extra 1, 000. I agree that making sure that the chica knows how much she is going to make ahead of time. Negotiating after the fact will always cause a scene and sometimes will cost you extra just to get the chica out of your hair.

I walked on many streets with my chicas and didn't see any police or politur at all. The only politur we saw was on the main road from Sosua to Cabarete stopping the moto drivers. THe chica who was with me told me that they are checking for moto licenses.

My chicas each night told me that they had to deal with the politur infrequently and only one had been arrested once.

I have read this site for the last 4 months (since my last visit in January) and heard about the huge changes in Sosua but the only change (less chicas grabbing me during the day) was pretty welcome. For the day time action, I used numbers I collected the night before in one case and in the other two, I told the chica from the night before that I wanted a 24 hour visit and that I didn't expect them to leave til 6pm. So, I had a guest for breakfast and lunch, with lots of fun in between and then she left at 6pm and I got ready for the next evening's action.

I'm ready to go back.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1160317]Maybe they are weeding out (arresting) girls that they don't control, leaving you to pick through the ones they (the police) are pimping. It could very well turn out that the freelancers in the New Sou. aren't in fact freelancers at all! What else could explain why some girls are arrested while others aren't?[/QUOTE]Wouldn't surprise me if some of the politur or the policia nacional in Sosua, were shaking down pros for money or free sex. Most Politur and Policia Nacional get very low wages. Probably why Sosua will always have prostitution, some Policia and some Politur have a vested interest in the prostitution business in Sosua. Some pros in Sosua will probably raise their rates to cover their added operating expenses (shakedown money to the policia). Seems monger dollars will be supporting chicas and policia nacional and politur officers.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1160747]Only hair I care about is pussy hair, I'm tired of shaved pussies.[/QUOTE]Then you might be better off in Cuba, was there a couple of years ago and most pussies were hairy

Is Sosua Bay Club a guest friendly hotel? I haven't seen any recent reviews about this hotel. How far is it from all the action?

Anybody knows when the next bikini shows at NG or any other place in Sosua? Will be there from 2-16 June.

Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.

Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?

Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?

Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1160928]Wouldn't surprise me if some of the politur or the policia nacional in Sosua, were shaking down pros for money or free sex. Most Politur and Policia Nacional get very low wages. Probably why Sosua will always have prostitution, some Policia and some Politur have a vested interest in the prostitution business in Sosua. Some pros in Sosua will probably raise their rates to cover their added operating expenses (shakedown money to the policia). Seems monger dollars will be supporting chicas and policia nacional and politur officers.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nikkon;1160549]One morning, two policemen were front my hôtel and stop "friendly" my chica in the street, with smiles and jokes, [b]but not speaking to me[/b]. I was a little worriend for her, and I called on her phone : "Have you problems with the police? Do you want to come back at the hôtel." She said me : "No, don't worry, they just want some money, because these thieves know that if I'm leaving the hôtel on the morning, I have money with me. But I'm used to this, and I let them politely."[/QUOTE]Jao, you may be on to something. Since the money I am paying these chicas are flowing into the Police's pockets, I am going to start demanding more services from these bastards next time, LOL! But I am starting to see why non/semi-pros would be reluctant to travel to Sosua.

Nikkon, it was a good thing you didn't stick around trying to be "Captain Save-a-H0e". The Police run that town and even if they don't get her money, her chulo/boyfriend will. What every she loses in operating expenses she will make up for it at Western Union the following week, lol.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1161118]Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.

Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?

Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?

Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?

Thanks! [/QUOTE]Whatever hotel you are staying at in Sosua just ask them to recommend a driver. They usually have a list. Also, just step outside of your hotel and there are usually a handful of taxi drivers hanging around (especially on Sundays, LOL).

When I stayed at BB's it was 1500 both ways to and from Sosua. Probably could have gotten a better rate but we didn't know any better since this was my first time to the DR and wasn't even planning on going to Sosua to begin with (ended up going the last two of my nights).

I think someone mentioned that BB's is starting to have ST rentals but I am not sure. Ask in the PP forum. If you want to take a girl back to Sosua you have to pay a salida (exit fee) of 800 pesos (I think that is the current rate. Ask in the PP forum).

Try to call ahead and ask what time shift change is. That way you can get there about an hour ahead of it and get the oncoming shift to check out as well.

The Bikini Contest is one of the biggest weekend draws at BB's. Contact them to find out which weekend's they are being held.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1160911]Bar Central right next to Classicos, Calypso Hotel near the double banks towards Passions.[/QUOTE]Much better. 490, 590, or 690 pesos.

Last night, a very hot chica promptly cut her price to 1000 pesos in Merengue Bar.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1161118]Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.

Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?

Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?

Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?

Thanks! [/QUOTE]You guys never cease to amaze me.

Guys staying in Sosúa who want take chicas out of Blackbeards.

Guys staying at Blackbeards who want to bring in chicas from Sosúa, or Cristal, or El Bohen.

Talk about pissing into the wind. Why do you want to make life complicated? You are just adding to your costs and don't tell me the cost is irrelevant if you already have 3 to share the taxi costs but fell you still need 3 more.

If you leave at 1. 00pm you will arrive at around 2. 00pm and Blackbeards will be a bit quietish by then. Not much choice for 3 or more guys if you are planning to take out. (Gets more lively around 5. 00pm).

Where are you all planning to take these chicas to do the deed? Short-term rental of room at BB would be cheapest / most convenient. Or to a near-by cabana? In either case you will be adding significant extra cost.

Or back to Sosúa? If the latter they will expect you to pay their taxi-fare back. (Yes, I know they could get back by publico but, depending how many chicas, it might not be that much cheaper and, being stuck-up little princesas from Blackbeards I can guarantee they will insist on a taxi).

SP321 quoted 1500 for a return trip. As that was from Costambar (where taxis are notoriously expensive) I think that was a good price if the driver was expected to hang around for hours.

I cannot see you negotiating much less than 2000 if you want the driver to wait for you in Costambar for several hours while you choose your chicas and do the deed wherever. If you cannot get the price you want, try walking to the Parada de Puerto Plata opposite Texaco and negotiate for a dedicated carrito. They are always 40% cheaper on the journey price because they are beat-up old wrecks but if you are, in effect, paying the driver for several hours waiting time there might not be that much difference. Also publicos are only comfortable for four passengers so you would need another taxi to take away your chicas.

I would love to hear how this operation pans out with all costs. I reckon you will end up paying double or treble each for the same quality chicas you could find in Sosúa but you could have a real fun outing that would make it all worthwhile.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1161118]Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.

Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?

Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?

Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?

Thanks![/QUOTE]In my estimation you are going about it in a difficult way. I tried to do the same, realized the hassle and then decided to check out a day early from Sosua and spent the last night and day at BB's. I could do this because I was on a day to day reservation at Plaza Europa Hotel.

I called BB's to see about availibilty and there was room. I checked in BB's in the afternoon, drank some Presidentes, found a nice chica, later had a great wood fired Pizza at "Sol o Mia" up the road with a bunch of the BB's guests and hung out for the rest of the evening.

The next morning had a nice breakfast, found a nice daytime Chica, hung out by the pool and got ready for the airport. The back and forth from Sosua to Costambar isn't worth it when you could be relaxing and sipping suds without all that hassle.

I also don't see the value of just being a visitor at BB's for a few hours and the riding back to Sosua. Stay the night, chill and the world is your oyster. Blackbeards will also make arrangements to get you to the airport on time.

I know your not a newbie as I see you have some posts up here. Just my two cents.

Hope all goes well and let us know.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1161118]Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.

Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?

Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?

Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?

Thanks! [/QUOTE]

Have you been to BB's before? You didnt ask us but on the surface this idea has many problems unless you have been there before and want to return for a reason. Read Charles post carefully and re-think this idea. Send me a pm if you want me to go into it further.

Yes the contest is still held every other Sat.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1161170]You guys never cease to amaze me.

Guys staying in Sosúa who want take chicas out of Blackbeards.

Guys staying at Blackbeards who want to bring in chicas from Sosúa, or Cristal, or El Bohen.

[/QUOTE]I agree 100. For str8 up mongering, I'd stay in Sosua but I have driven to BBs if I already had a rental and wanted to go in that direction anyway. I usually wind up pulling babes before even getting to Blackbeards, when driving. Check the website for the bikini contest dates. I think they are always on the weekend. I stay far away from Cristal and Bohen. I'd rather do a car wash in Santiago, if I really want to get out of Sosua, which happens occasionally when you have too many chicas hawking you and saying "no otra chica!" when they see you.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1161159]Last night, a very hot chica promptly cut her price to 1000 pesos in Merengue Bar.[/QUOTE]That's a good price. I had the same thing happen at After One. If a chica is feeling you, she wants to fck you and the pesos are just icing on the cake. That chica network gets the word out fast when a money train comes into town.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1161267]That's a good price. I had the same thing happen at After One. If a chica is feeling you, she wants to fck you and the pesos are just icing on the cake. That chica network gets the word out fast when a money train comes into town.[/QUOTE]After One chicas know the night is almost over and some chicas reaize that going home with nada is not an option, good deals can be had there. The only problem I have is that if I've already fucked and I'm in drinking mode usually I just want to hang out and go home solo. A night of drinking usually doesn't lead to my best sex game so why bother.

Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?

Where's a good spot to watch sports? I'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday.

[QUOTE=Daniel545; 1161280]Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?

Where's a good spot to watch sports? II'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday.[/QUOTE]The internet a New Garden is pretty decent, my room is usually top floor in the back. However the safes I've had were not big enough for my HP. Maybe if you have a netbook.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1161137]The Bikini Contest is one of the biggest weekend draws at BB's. Contact them to find out which weekend's they are being held.[/QUOTE]Bikini contest this weekend June 4 and every other Saturday. Thursday is not the best day to go hang out at BB.

[QUOTE=Daniel545; 1161280]Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?

Where's a good spot to watch sports? I'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday. [/QUOTE]From what I last heard New Garden does have Wifi. The safes are not big enough to hold your laptop. The Sharks Bar on Pedro Clisante has some nice jumbo screens. The problem is that sometimes the food is overpriced.

[QUOTE=Daniel545; 1161280]Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?

Where's a good spot to watch sports? I'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday. [/QUOTE]There is WiFi at the NG, just got back from there. I have a 17' laptop that did fit in the safe if you put it in at the right angle. This past trip, I kept the computer out the entire time; did not feel it was an issue.

Rumba bar has a huge screen and the women will be hanging out as well. Rocky's also has a huge screen, but without the women hanging out.

[QUOTE=Daniel545;1161280]Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?[/QUOTE]Once you get there you will see there is no need to put your laptop in a safe. No chica is going to dare try to walk out of NG with it tucked under her arm. Plus, you have to escort her to the front desk in order for her to pick up her cedula (not so at Terra Linda).

I always leave my laptop out so that I can fire up some my music when I walk in the room. But I would make a separate login account if you plan to let chicas use it to check their email to keep them from browsing through your personal shit.

Always keep your safe locked though, especially while in the shower.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1161137]I think someone mentioned that BB's is starting to have ST rentals but I am not sure. Ask in the PP forum. If you want to take a girl back to Sosua you have to pay a salida (exit fee) of 800 pesos (I think that is the current rate. Ask in the PP forum).[/QUOTE]BBs will give a ST room, if it has one available.

How busy has the NG pool been? I will be arriving next month.

[QUOTE=Daniel545; 1161280]Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?

Where's a good spot to watch sports? I'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday. [/QUOTE]NG has good wireless in that it works inside the room. Occasionally you have the electricity go out and the signal might be weak. I could put my netbook in the safe but it is pretty small.

Last 2 weeks there have been chicas hanging out at the pool. This is low hanging fruit if you don't want to go far.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1161342]Rumba bar has a huge screen and the women will be hanging out as well. Rocky's also has a huge screen, but without the women hanging out.[/QUOTE]I also was watching the game at Merengue Bar on the big screen and watching the chicas begin to congregate for Clasicos at the same time.

[quote=amb832;1161049]is sosua bay club a guest friendly hotel? i haven't seen any recent reviews about this hotel. how far is it from all the action?[/quote]sosua bay hotel is behind the new casino, two and half blocks to classicos. after one disco is in the new casino.

sosua bay hotel has a monger section that is guest friendly. sosua bay hotel has an all inclusive section that is not guest friendly. rates i have read for the sosua bay hotel from $50us to $100us. off season now, so maybe the rates will be under $100us.

the owner of sosua bay also owns classicos and after one and he also owns a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132][CodeWord132][/url] factory near sosua. name of the owner is armando, he is not a friendly guy.

headed to sosua, via panama city for the memorial day weekend. my first trip was in november 2010 before the crack-down, then the second in january. in january is was quite different, the street action was scarce, the girls were nervous, and the club action seemed to be limited to classico. this trip was different from the others. the girls were cautious, but not scared. but then again, there were very few haitians available on the street, beach, and in the clubs.

hotel:

stayed at the new garden for the third time. my reservation got screwed up and i did not get the room i requested; but jenny is too damn cute to slap around. there was always action in the pool, bar, and restaurant areas. some new faces for me, and some not so new. i saw maria, from the m&m happy hour team. she told me that marlene is now working at a bar in panama. i missed marlene; she is really a sweet girl.

wifi was up and running and the staff was great as in the past. as soon as walked in the ng, there was a dark big booty girl at the front desk talking to one of the staff members. she informed me that she was an excellent massage therapist, and was also available for complete services; go figure! so my thought was, let's check-in this hotel in style and get this holiday weekend off on the right foot. we showered, she massaged, and then rack operations commenced, yep, the weekend started out well. and my luggage was still packed!

bars & clubs:

cmp: i started out there because the girls were around the ng passing out flyers to their party that started at 7:00. i already made a call and had little dancer meeting me at the ng at 9:30, so no time to waste time. got to cmp, but the party seemed to have quickly ended. but there were still 12-14 girls hanging out; some hot, some ok, and some wtf. for about 30-40 minutes, i was the only customer in the place. so all the girls focused their attention on me; not a bad thing at all. at one point, every girl was on the floor doing the booty shake for little old me. it is amazing to watch these girls shake their asses in beat to every note of the music, up and down, side to side; i felt quite honored.

el flow & rumba: both of these places had a good share of women available in the afternoon and early evening; especially rumba. later in the evening, the girls headed to merengue.

merengue: the girls packed this place by 9 to 10. i was sitting at one of the tables, when i noticed all the girls got up and were moving in the same direction. hell, i thought they were being rounded up by the police. nah, it was because classico was opening up. oh, and the best table to sit at during this parade of chicas, is the one directly below the stairs; voyeur heaven my fellow kinky friends.

la passion & classico: never made it to either place. but i can tell you by watching the stairs, classico had plenty of women available. did not find the time to visit la passion, cmp kept me busy for a bit too long.

latino: still my favorite late night spot. ran smacked into the crazy frizzy hair bartender, which is not frizzy anymore, now her hair is straight. she still wanted full control of my happy ass, and this lasted for the three nights. how much do i have to pay for one bad judgment night from the pass november? the night club focuses on latino music, vice the american stuff at classico; which i appreciate. i did not travel from the west coast to listen to otherwise. i also really like the staff, other than the one already mentioned. i enjoy hanging out with juan, miguel, clarixa, and angel throughout the evening.

one night i went in the club without little dancer, and was hanging out at the bar talking to miguel and clarixa. it was around midnight and the place seemed dead and i was about to give up on the place. then this beauty came out of the bathroom, crossed the stage, and was headed out. she was wearing a white knitted short see-through dress, with a red thong and bra. i saw her and yelled,"ay, chihuahua!" angel heard me, pointed to her, and then chased her beautiful ass down. within a minute, she was next to me and sharing a tasty adult beverage. she later joined me at the ng. yep, angel earned a few free drinks that night.

the beach:

hung out with herman and his girls during the two full days that i had available. herman told me that business was way down and he was happy to see a returning customer. in fact, walking up and down the beach, most businesses had any customers at all. saturday, there were some chicas available, but on sunday, it was mothers day in the dr; very few chicas on the beach whatsoever.

patience is essential:

i was sitting at the ng bar waiting for the "ay chihuahua" girl the following night, she was suppose to be there at 7:00, but by 7:30 i had my doubts if she would show at all. meanwhile, in walks in this pretty dark girl, with her not so pretty friend. the pretty one keeps looking over and smiling, so what's a man to do, i call her over for a drink. we hit it off; go figure. we go to dinner and then back to the room for rack operations. turned out to be a great night anyway.

the new girl is getting dressed when i got a call from the front desk. they said the "ay chihuahua" girl showed up and was looking for me. but they did not use the "ay chihuahua" term, but the girl from the night before; this was about 10:00. the "ay chihuahua" girl and i were reunited and spent the rest of my last night together; drinking, dancing, and rack operations.

final thoughts:

sosua is far from dead! but it is different than before the crack-down. there are women available on the streets, bars, and the beach during the day, but unlike the amount as before. the place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin chicas as i do. don't kid yourself; sosua is alive and kicking ass!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1161677]Don't kid yourself; Sosua is alive and kicking ass![/QUOTE]Glad to hear that good times can still be had. My last trip was during the first week of the crackdown. I had a good time but it was nothing like the prior trips. I'm trying to put together a last minute trip for the middle of June. What did you pay the chicas? 1000-1500 ST and 2000- 2500 TLN still going rate?

[quote=tomjackin; 1161677]headed to sosua, via panama city for the memorial day weekend. my first trip was in november 2010 before the crack-down, then the second in january. in january is was quite different, the street action was scarce, the girls were nervous, and the club action seemed to be limited to classico. this trip was different from the others. the girls were cautious, but not scared. but then again, there were very few haitians available on the street, beach, and in the clubs.

hotel:

stayed at the new garden for the third time. my reservation got screwed up and i did not get the room i requested; but jenny is too damn cute to slap around. there was always action in the pool, bar, and restaurant areas. some new faces for me, and some not so new. i saw maria, from the m&m happy hour team. she told me that marlene is now working at a bar in panama. i missed marlene; she is really a sweet girl.

wifi was up and running and the staff was great as in the past. as soon as walked in the ng, there was a dark big booty girl at the front desk talking to one of the staff members. she informed me that she was an excellent massage therapist, and was also available for complete services; go figure! so my thought was, let's check-in this hotel in style and get this holiday weekend off on the right foot. we showered, she massaged, and then rack operations commenced, yep, the weekend started out well. and my luggage was still packed!

bars & clubs:

cmp: i started out there because the girls were around the ng passing out flyers to their party that started at 7:00. i already made a call and had little dancer meeting me at the ng at 9:30, so no time to waste time. got to cmp, but the party seemed to have quickly ended. but there were still 12-14 girls hanging out; some hot, some ok, and some wtf. for about 30-40 minutes, i was the only customer in the place. so all the girls focused their attention on me; not a bad thing at all. at one point, every girl was on the floor doing the booty shake for little old me. it is amazing to watch these girls shake their asses in beat to every note of the music, up and down, side to side; i felt quite honored.

el flow & rumba: both of these places had a good share of women available in the afternoon and early evening; especially rumba. later in the evening, the girls headed to merengue.

merengue: the girls packed this place by 9 to 10. i was sitting at one of the tables, when i noticed all the girls got up and were moving in the same direction. hell, i thought they were being rounded up by the police. nah, it was because classico was opening up. oh, and the best table to sit at during this parade of chicas, is the one directly below the stairs; voyeur heaven my fellow kinky friends.

la passion & classico: never made it to either place. but i can tell you by watching the stairs, classico had plenty of women available. did not find the time to visit la passion, cmp kept me busy for a bit too long.

latino: still my favorite late night spot. ran smacked into the crazy frizzy hair bartender, which is not frizzy anymore, now her hair is straight. she still wanted full control of my happy ass, and this lasted for the three nights. how much do i have to pay for one bad judgment night from the pass november? the night club focuses on latino music, vice the american stuff at classico; which i appreciate. i did not travel from the west coast to listen to otherwise. i also really like the staff, other than the one already mentioned. i enjoy hanging out with juan, miguel, clarixa, and angel throughout the evening.

one night i went in the club without little dancer, and was hanging out at the bar talking to miguel and clarixa. it was around midnight and the place seemed dead and i was about to give up on the place. then this beauty came out of the bathroom, crossed the stage, and was headed out. she was wearing a white knitted short see-through dress, with a red thong and bra. i saw her and yelled,"ay, chihuahua!" angel heard me, pointed to her, and then chased her beautiful ass down. within a minute, she was next to me and sharing a tasty adult beverage. she later joined me at the ng. yep, angel earned a few free drinks that night.

the beach:

hung out with herman and his girls during the two full days that i had available. herman told me that business was way down and he was happy to see a returning customer. in fact, walking up and down the beach, most businesses had any customers at all. saturday, there were some chicas available, but on sunday, it was mothers day in the dr; very few chicas on the beach whatsoever.

patience is essential:

i was sitting at the ng bar waiting for the "ay chihuahua" girl the following night, she was suppose to be there at 7:00, but by 7:30 i had my doubts if she would show at all. meanwhile, in walks in this pretty dark girl, with her not so pretty friend. the pretty one keeps looking over and smiling, so what's a man to do, i call her over for a drink. we hit it off; go figure. we go to dinner and then back to the room for rack operations. turned out to be a great night anyway.

the new girl is getting dressed when i got a call from the front desk. they said the "ay chihuahua" girl showed up and was looking for me. but they did not use the "ay chihuahua" term, but the girl from the night before; this was about 10:00. the "ay chihuahua" girl and i were reunited and spent the rest of my last night together; drinking, dancing, and rack operations.

final thoughts:

sosua is far from dead! but it is different than before the crack-down. there are women available on the streets, bars, and the beach during the day, but unlike the amount as before. the place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin chicas as i do. don't kid yourself; sosua is alive and kicking ass! [/quote]thank you tomjackin for a "fair and balanced" report. it is nice to read a realistic and honest report instead of reading crap from certain posters that seem to have an axe to grind against sosua and are constantly claiming sosua is on it's death bed. every city i have ever been to for mongering has changed over the years but you don't hear them calling it the "new" medellin for example. i visited sosua ten times last year and had a blast and that is all that matters, having fun. i am glad you enjoyed your trip.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1161776]Thank you Tomjackin for a "fair and balanced" report. It is nice to read a realistic and honest report instead of reading crap from certain posters that seem to have an axe to grind against Sosua and are constantly claiming Sosua is on it's death bed. Every city I have ever been to for mongering has changed over the years but you don't hear them calling it the "new" Medellin for example. I visited Sosua ten times last year and had a blast and that is all that matters, having fun. I am glad you enjoyed your trip.[/QUOTE]Yes, thanks for posting Tomjacking. We are in all agreement that Sosua still has pussy, but not like before. There is also still night time hangout spots. And that Sosua has a more family feel during the day. But I'm not the type of guy that would tell people that Sosua is the same as it always has been, and mislead people. Because I take this honest stance, some people assume I'm wishing for the downfall of Sosua. It's not hard to see the direction that the powers in charge want the "New Sosua" to go. Police harassment, more families, less mongerers and with 50% vacancy at NG, the plan is working and proceeding. But some mongerers here want me to say everyting is perfect. I respect your opinion Mani, and we are cool even when we disagree. But considering the money that I used to spend in Sousua bi monthly, to have someone say "Fuck you and your money, we don't want it" doesn't sit well with me. And your correct everyplace is going to have an lull, maybe this is just that.

But I will say this, its about to come to a pivital point. The family plan or back to the mongerers Sosua, they both can't co exist. Another site is complaining about the NY boys coming down in big groups for the weekends. All it takes is one big incident and the hookers and mongerers will be blamed. Then we will see the final crackdown. But guys can always go to La Passions, that will then be full of mongerers, and come back here and write" Sure Classicos is closed but there is plenty of pussy in Passions and Sosua is far from dead".

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1161776]Thank you Tomjackin for a "fair and balanced" report. It is nice to read a realistic and honest report instead of reading crap from certain posters that seem to have an axe to grind against Sosua and are constantly claiming Sosua is on it's death bed. Every city I have ever been to for mongering has changed over the years but you don't hear them calling it the "new" Medellin for example. I visited Sosua ten times last year and had a blast and that is all that matters, having fun. I am glad you enjoyed your trip.[/QUOTE]Sosúa nowadays is worse in some ways and better in others. We are better off without many of the moaning minnies who now struggle to have a good time in Sosúa because they are too lazy or stupid to learn a little Spanish and the basic steps of common sense mongering. Also without the hard-core putas and other scum who used to pray on these easy marks.

I was always considered to have a down on Sosúa because I favored Puerto Plata. Now with the closing of Field of Dreams, El Chakerero, Vacilón, and other bars, it is hard to speak in favor of PP as a mongering center for short-term visitors, though still fine for those who have already built a list of contacts such as you and me. But Sosúa is hard to beat for those from the East of the US or from Europe who have convenient and affordable access, if you are looking for over-all value.

[QUOTE=John from NJ;1161775]Glad to hear that good times can still be had. My last trip was during the first week of the crackdown. I had a good time but it was nothing like the prior trips. I'm trying to put together a last minute trip for the middle of June. What did you pay the chicas? 1000-1500 ST and 2000- 2500 TLN still going rate?[/QUOTE]Less Chicas, the more demand so to speak. Before the crackdown, the prices were cheaper because of the higher number of Chicas. They are asking for more, but will settle for less. A couple of the girls I called, I knew from the previous trips, and just gave them whatever I thought was fair, they never asked. Bottom line; be prepared to pay more than before.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1161879]Sosúa nowadays is worse in some ways and better in others.[/QUOTE]I probably will have a party in Santo Domingo at the end of June, you are invited, if you are feeling better to travel to Distrito Nacional. I am sure you know plenty of cute Haitian chicas, you can bring along, LOL.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1161880]A couple of the girls I called, I knew from the previous trips, and just gave them whatever I thought was fair, they never asked. Bottom line; be prepared to pay more than before.[/QUOTE]You seem to be contradicting yourself here. As you have just demonstrated, there is no need to pay more.

Maybe the hard-core slags who hang round New Garden and try to dominate Clasicos (often veteran rejects from Passions, Blackbeards, Cristal, Field of Dreams, etc.) are asking more and getting it, but my friends who live in Sosúa are finding a steady trickle of fresh talent entering the noble profession and they stick to the tried and trusted price schedule of 1000-1500ST and 2000-2500TLN.

You will need some Spanish (not much) , some common sense, and an agreeable manner, though.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1161880]Less Chicas, the more demand so to speak. Before the crackdown, the prices were cheaper because of the higher number of Chicas. They are asking for more, but will settle for less. A couple of the girls I called, I knew from the previous trips, and just gave them whatever I thought was fair, they never asked. Bottom line; be prepared to pay more than before.[/QUOTE].

I don't think it is a supply and demand issue because I was hiding from chicas recently. I tend to think it is a factor of gringos driving up prices. When I read about guys on here bragging about tipping chicas 1, 000 pesos extra for doing what you are paying them to do I have to wonder. Its like reading in a travel manuel that tipping at restaurants is not the norm in a particular country and gringos come down and start tipping. Suddenly it becomes the norm. All you have to do is go to Costa Rica to see what can happen.

Experienced mongers know a lot of these chicas are actually looking for somewhere comfy to crash late at night. Guys that can develop chemistry and have some game may not have to pay the same price as another guy. Not saying its not all about money, but one of the reasons guys started coming to the DR from the start was because Dominican woman love to fvck. Somehow we've gotten away from that.

Sosua has some nice talent, but I think the variance is greater now and its more of a freak show. Not freaky as in sex, but freaky as there are a lot of chicas that should not be out there. Freaky also in that I see a lot more mongers now that are over 400 lbs or 6ft8. Nothing wrong with that but you can look at a lot of these dudes and surmise that they are probably paying big numbers. I ran into some Western Union novios recently and also a guy that was paying astronomical numbers. I don't let what the next guy pays affect what I pay when I monger.

On another note, I think the resistance to the monger scene has to do with the type of mongers increasingly coming down more than mongering, in and of itself. After all, prostitution is legal in the DR.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1162016].

I don't think it is a supply and demand issue because I was hiding from chicas recently. I tend to think it is a factor of gringos driving up prices. When I read about guys on here bragging about tipping chicas 1, 000 pesos extra for doing what you are paying them to do I have to wonder. Its like reading in a travel manuel that tipping at restaurants is not the norm in a particular country and gringos come down and start tipping. Suddenly it becomes the norm. All you have to do is go to Costa Rica to see what can happen.

Experienced mongers know a lot of these chicas are actually looking for somewhere comfy to crash late at night. Guys that can develop chemistry and have some game may not have to pay the same price as another guy. Not saying its not all about money, but one of the reasons guys started coming to the DR from the start was because Dominican woman love to fvck. Somehow we've gotten away from that.

Sosua has some nice talent, but I think the variance is greater now and its more of a freak show. Not freaky as in sex, but freaky as there are a lot of chicas that should not be out there. Freaky also in that I see a lot more mongers now that are over 400 lbs or 6ft8. Nothing wrong with that but you can look at a lot of these dudes and surmise that they are probably paying big numbers. I ran into some Western Union novios recently and also a guy that was paying astronomical numbers. I don't let what the next guy pays affect what I pay when I monger.

On another note, I think the resistance to the monger scene has to do with the type of mongers increasingly coming down more than mongering, in and of itself. After all, prostitution is legal in the DR. [/QUOTE]You make some point's I agree with and some I don't.

I think it's a new breed of mongerer, that developed with the Brazil "fuck fest". I love the story's from my Uncle's about the day's of mongering in Santo Domingo in the 80's and 90's. The North Coast hadn't developed to the wild Sosua yet. But they migrated to Puerto Plata first when it had dirt roads. These guys would spend months at a time, and intergrate into the community. Girls would invite them over to show off their new gringo boyfriend. They learned Spanish, and fucked with respect and laughed when they got caught cheating, it was all fun.

Then Brazil got hot with their amazon bodys and sexual talents. Word spread and it was a must see, meanwhile the older dudes in Puerto Plata keept their secrets. Puerto Plata is still a secret and my second favorite place behind Medellin.

Sometime's I think Sosua was created to hide Puerto Plata. The older guy's had already set up shop in Puerto plata and didn't want these new young guys, who were now looking for the next Brazil, to fuck their spot up. Sosua had a beach and new night cubs plus girl's looking for a gringo boyfriend. But here comes the ex Brazil guys with their "fuck fest" attitude's. Now it's all buisiness and sex. Closer than Brazil and less expensive. Also there are non stop flights from the North East. It got crazy, guys would pull a girl in a corner and bukakee her if they thought they could get away with it. The respect was lost, it no longer was about GFE and the DR cultural experience. If guys could of bought their pitbulls down to get pussy they wouldve done it, they didn't care. I remember just last year checking a guy on this forum who asked"Is it ok to ejaculate on a girl in the corner of the Latinos disco".

I have connections, love the culture and work everyday on adding to my Spanish vocab. Once the change takes place (whatever it is) I will resume my bi monthly trips. I guess it's what Mani say's, every mongerer spot goes thru an adjustment.