Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Nobetane; 1196947][B]Sexy Fantasias 2[/B]

The papasan there was very nice and produced 6 chicas. All in all, I'd say that they were 5s on average and I wasn't swayed by any of them.

NB[/QUOTE]Last month when I went to Sexy Fantasias 2, there were 8 chicas. 7 of them above 8, even the 8th was doable. It shows that the quality in any casa does constantly change day by day, and again, it is a hit or miss. You never know what you're going to get before stepping inside.

Great report. I enjoyed it very much. Thanks.

EZ

Thanks EZ! Your report was one of the reasons why I put SF2 on my list. Oh well, there is always next time.

NB.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1196978]Last month when I went to Sexy Fantasias 2, there were 8 chicas. 7 of them above 8, even the 8th was doable. It shows that the quality in any casa does constantly change day by day, and again, it is a hit or miss. You never know what you're going to get before stepping inside.

Great report. I enjoyed it very much. Thanks.

EZ[/QUOTE]

5K propina sounds right amount. To me, the guys at SF2 and Bell Suite are nicest papasans, and the guy at New life is least friendly papasan. My Tatiana is Tatiana at Zandaly. Enjoyed your report. Thank you very much.

[QUOTE=Nobetane; 1196947]Hola Gents,

I made another casa run on Friday, and I thought I'd share my observations with you all.

NB[/QUOTE]

Regarding the five people killed in a taxi a while back, iirc the 2 guys were gang members that had just been released from jail, the 3 women were girlfriends of the guys. The gang they belonged to was suspected in a police officers death the year prior. Not too hard to put two and two together.

[url]http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/14757-british-man-shot-and-killed-in-medellin.html[/url]

This guy got killed the day after I got here. Apparently he was wearing a gold chain and tried to resist when being robbed at a stoplight. He had been here for 9 months so he should have known better. Leave the gold and expensive watches at home guys. Remember, even if you're a door greeter at Walmart, to the thugs here you're a rich gringo and an easy target. They will smoke your ass muy pronto. I've been here for six months straight now and knock on wood have avoided any serious issues. Be smart about what you do, when you do it and how you do it and live to fuck another day.

[QUOTE=Bennn; 1196804]2 questions regarding MDE airport.

Is there a casa de cambio? (No card for ATM)

Is the taxi's fare fixed or they use a meter? (General Medellin question)

Thanks[/QUOTE]Get an ATM card or, if you INSIST on bringing cash, buy colombian pesos from your bank ahead of time. Major USA banks have them for sale and you will get a way better rate than at some intercambio crap at the airport. You will also avoid the infinite lines at a colombian bank, which may or may not have a competitive rate.

Thanks Matt. You're right, I had the wrong Tatiana. I did ask about the girl Rina (Rena) you had mentioned at SF2, but she wasn't there that day.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1197018]5K propina sounds right amount. To me, the guys at SF2 and Bell Suite are nicest papasans, and the guy at New life is least friendly papasan. My Tatiana is Tatiana at Zandaly. Enjoyed your report. Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1197092]Get an ATM card or, if you INSIST on bringing cash, buy colombian pesos from your bank ahead of time. Major USA banks have them for sale and you will get a way better rate than at some intercambio crap at the airport. You will also avoid the infinite lines at a colombian bank, which may or may not have a competitive rate.[/QUOTE]I used to use this place many years ago before I was "schooled" They used to not even offer C. O. P's in the drop down menu and I had to call ahead. Now I'm happy to announce that they have added Colombia as a choice. They give pretty good rates and they delivered right to my door the next day at no cost. [url]http://www.us.travelex.com/US/Home/?utm_medium=cpc[/url]

Of course a NO FEE atm card is the way to go. I don't know why this member doesn't just get one. There are so many now and its so easy. Regardless that's his business.

Wilt why would he need to wait in line at the bank and not just go to a casa de cambio? Their in every major mall?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1197136]I used to use this place many years ago before I was "schooled" They used to not even offer C. O. P's in the drop down menu and I had to call ahead. Now I'm happy to announce that they have added Colombia as a choice. They give pretty good rates and they delivered right to my door the next day at no cost.

[url]http://www.us.travelex.com/US/Home/?utm_medium=cpc[/url]

Of course a NO FEE atm card is the way to go. I don't know why this member doesn't just get one. There are so many now and its so easy. Regardless that's his business.

Wilt why would he need to wait in line at the bank and not just go to a casa de cambio? Their in every major mall?[/QUOTE]MHL, in all due respect this place is a ripoff. The TRM today is 1818. And this website is offering 1618.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1197186]MHL, in all due respect this place is a ripoff. The TRM today is 1818. And this website is offering 1618.[/QUOTE]There is no doubt that you take a wash when you do it this way but this is strictly for those mongers who have hangups and MUST enter their vacationing country with that countries currency in hand, some newbie mongers would gladly give up the peso difference for their piece of mind that they have the cash in hand instead of having to go out and venture to ATMs and Casas de Cambio.

At the present time using USTRAVELX Every $1000 you are losing 200k, when I used them on one of my first trips, they difference wasn't nearly as large. Like a 100 peso difference. Also the 1618 they are offering is better than the other online foreign currency places.

Well, maybe, but if you don't have either a debit card OR a credit card they ain't going to deliver the currency to your door.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1197211]Well, maybe, but if you don't have either a debit card OR a credit card they ain't going to deliver the currency to your door.[/QUOTE]Dickie, down below he wrote he DOES have a credit card but apparently no ATM card. Come to think of it. The rate of 1620 isn't to much of a windfall for travelex considering they are paying a merchant fee probably 2-3% to their prospective merchants.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1197216]Dickie, down below he wrote he DOES have a credit card but apparently no ATM card. Come to think of it. The rate of 1620 isn't to much of a windfall for travelex considering they are paying a merchant fee probably 2-3% to their prospective merchants.[/QUOTE]1620 is more than 10% less, a no-fee ATM is much more cost-effective, especially on a trip of any length. Even a standard fee ATM (5500 COP per transaction roughly) would be more cost effective, particularly if you went to Citibank (withdraw up to 2, 000, 000 COP at a time, maybe more, not sure) or some of the other banks that now allow 800, 000 COP per transaction for foreign cards.

Anyway, I am sick of talking about this guy's money. Where the chocha at!

Arrived at MDE airport on a beautiful day. Just perfect weather.

The DAS man would not honor my request to stamp my passport on a page where I needed it stamped. He insisted on useing one of my few remaining places on my last empty page.

Not a good start, but soon was in a taxi with my wingman. Quoited 55 K for the ride into town. When I told him the address in Mayorista he upped the price to 60 K. This was the first time I ever was quoted a higher price for this location. The bags were already in his trunk, and as my foot was hurting me (tenden problems) We paid the frieght.

I was really tired with only about one hour sleep so I had planned mostly to rest the first night. This was not to be as when I laid down after unpacking I could not rest as I knew my Wing was on the prowl on the Strip. After a shower I met him at a table. My last trip to MDE was about 7 months ago so there was a lot of new faces. I saw many tempting young girls, but as I get older I try to avoid them, and stick to the late 20's to 30 range. After a few Redds beer I ended up taking an old favorite. (prices still in the 30K range ).

I was tired so no leche was issued. After a brief time I took another old friend. I asked for a stripteese. While she was grinding on me in her bra and pantys it got me thinking of a no touch lap dance in the USA for 5 minutes for $20. Ha, ha that made me feel good and after a while I gave up the leche in the cowgirl position. No fellows I did not give any of the two a Orgasimo, but I was happy LOL.

A trip to the 3 Centro strip clubs is planned for today. Casas will be later on the trip. I know they are great value, but the bright lights are not the best setting for me.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1197410]I was really tired with only about one hour sleep so I had planned mostly to rest the first night.

After a few Redds beer I ended up taking an old favorite. (prices still in the 30K range ).

After a brief time I took another old friend. I asked for a stripteese. .[/QUOTE]2 chicas when you were dead tired. Imagine how many it would be when you are not. I'm impressed. How was the scene in La Mayorista on a Wednesday night? Thanks JG.

EZ

Men don't be afrraid of being who you are. Even a Master like me is a labled a so called Sava hoe and I don't give a F, I'm not talking about my Gfs, just any girls I happen to run into. This isn't high school boys, Its very important not to try to be kool here stand up and be a man and help as many as possible even well mongering. Let s up our Karma never hurts.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1197422]2 chicas when you were dead tired. Imagine how many it would be when you are not. I'm impressed. How was the scene in La Mayorista on a Wednesday night? Thanks JG.

EZ[/QUOTE]The scene was very good, and I think it being payday for the locals had somethibg to do with it. This morning I was shocked. About 10 girls working, and 4 of them were very doable.

A normal morning on previous trips saw two or three Gorditas working.

I went to the salon behind the Strip and got my toenails clipped. Also got my gotee trimmed to a point, gives me a devil look. LOL. 13K for that work. This is the place Frank Casio said they give FS massuges. One girl was working, and I rated her a 7. I think the price for FS is 70K, but I did not ask. This was the price last Feb.

Yes I was tired, but today I have rested, and who knows I might give that guy who does 8 a day a run for his money. Yes it counts if you don't come. Unless you believe former Pres. Bill Clinton." I did not have sex with that girl "

Hola Gents,

I made another casa run on Friday and visited Zandaly and Geisha for the second time.

[B]Zandaly[/B]:

As usual, I rode the metro to the Prado station, and I made it to Zandaly around 11:30am. The mamasan showed me about 8 chicas, many of them doable. I was tempted to repeat with Paola, with whom I had a great session my first time there. However, I decided to try Luna, who has been mentioned on this board. I paid the mamasan the 30k for 30mins and she set me up in a room on the same floor as the "blue room" where they have the chica presentation. Luna came in and we chatted for quite a bit (she has family in Miami, likes english, etc.) and even danced a little to some reggaeton and bachada. I think all that made her relax and get into the session a bit. She definitely was not shy at all, and she even mentioned (umprompted) that she also likes doing threesomes. So we started with a covered BJ (which was actually a little painful because her teeth were "catching") and 69. She was open to multiple positions and moaned a lot and talked dirty during sex, though I think that the moaning was an act. As we were doing it doggie style, she asked me if I wanted to finish on her breasts, which of course I agreed to (who am I to tell a woman what she can or can't get?). Then again, I also think that it was a ploy to get me to stop plowing her and jack off on her. Either way, I continued with mish style for a while and eventually took her up on her offer of a titty fuck (though they were kinda small) and finished off on her chest, per her aforementioned request. After that, she just laid there and continued talking dirty ("que rico", etc.). I have to say, it was pretty exciting, and I started wondering if she was going to start licking it up or something (seemed like the next logical move, given how freaky she had been so far). Anyway, she went off for a shower, and I took one after her. I left her a 5k propina and she seemed happy with it.

Overall, I'd give it a 7 for the chica line-up. 7 for Luna's face. 6.5 for her body, and 8 for the service. If you're looking for a freaky session, I'd definitely recommend her, though as usual, YMMV. Regardless, she strikes me as the kind of girl who gets into sex.

[B]Geisha[/B]:

After leaving Zandaly, I was ready to go home, even though I had planned on checking out some of the other chicas at Geisha. Luckily, by the time I arrived to the Prado station, I had resolved to soldier up and go with the initial plan, the result of seeing some cuties on the street during my walk back. So up I went, and I was greeted by a mamasan; she wasn't all that friendly, but who cares, I was there for the girls. Since my last visit there, I had my eyes on Vanessa (cute brunette with a great smile and some nice boobs) and Angie (tall and slim morena with long hair and nice smile as well). However, I decided to take in a line-up in case they had had some new arrivals. In total, I saw about 6 chicas. 4 of them doable, including the chica I sessioned with the last time, Sandra (cute face, average height, rather small boobs, but nice hips and great booty). If anyone here is into big and shapely butts, I'd definitely recommend that you check her out, she is worth the trip to that casa. As I mentioned in a previous report, I had a disappointing session with her, but YMMV.

Anyway, I ended up selecting Angie and I got the same room as last time (right off the reception area, which I hate). We started off with conversation and a short oil massage. She mentioned that she thought I'd pick two girls and I tried to explain to her that the only reason I got two girls last time was because the first girl (Sandra) was disappointing. When I asked her if she liked threesomes, she said she's done them, but there is basically no girl-on-girl action. I learned that she is from Santa Marta, is 28 (with the body of a 23yo sprinter) and has a 2yo child. I started the massage on my stomach and I turned over, she started stroking me. I signaled for her to go down on me, and she did, after putting on a condom. The covered BJ was not all that impressive, so I stopped her after a while and started off on her mish style. I switched a couple of positions, including doggie style, and eventually asked her what position she preferred. She set me up in this variation of mish and went at it like that for a while. It was the best GFE I have had so far, with lots of DFK and it was definitely very sensual. I definitely got the impression that she was into it as much as I was (then again, who knows) , and I eventually finished off in that position. After that, we chatted for a bit and I told her that I'd like to call her to see her again. I couldn't understand everything she said, but I think it had to do with trusting some people (like me) , and not trusting others. I think she might have said that she'd want to see me in the casa one more time before giving me the number, but I am not sure. Anyway, I didn't get the number. I gave her a 10k propina (it was the best experience I've had in MDE so far) , and she was really happy with it.

Overall, I'd rank the trip to the casa as follows: line-up 6, Angie's face: 7, Angie's body: 8, service: 9. I think I'll definitely go back there and session with Angie again. She is probably the only chica (out of maybe 7) I've been with that I would have liked to see outside of the casa. She was definitely very eager to please me. I got the casa around 12. 45pm and I think they were a little busier this time around because during my session, I heard the doorbell ring twice (then again one of those times could have been a lunch delivery girl).

Peace.

NB

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1197535]Men don't be afrraid of being who you are. Even a Master like me is a labled a so called Sava hoe and I don't give a F, I'm not talking about my Gfs, just any girls I happen to run into. This isn't high school boys, Its very important not to try to be kool here stand up and be a man and help as many as possible even well mongering. Let s up our Karma never hurts.[/QUOTE]Some more goodies ROTFL! Jajajaja! We're still waiting to hear what exactly you're a "MASTER" of. Some possible ideas where thrown out already but I'd love to hear it directly from your mouth! LOL

She has tongue piercing with three or four pins on her tongue.

[QUOTE=Nobetane;1197567]So we started with a covered BJ (which was actually a little painful because her teeth were "catching") and 69. NB[/QUOTE]

I am a firm believer in treating the girls no matter how poor with respect, as long they treat me nicely, although I have never slapped a women and never will no matter how disrespectful. I have bitchslapped many men who try to disrespect me. Jajajajaja

Last night myself, my wing, and another guy went to visit the Centro Strip clubs. First to my old favorite, Las Americas. 5 K for beers, and not very good talent. We left after one brew, and went to Exectivo a few paces away. Outstanding selection for a lower end club. 5 K for beer. Rumor was the price was now 70K for ST, but I did not check on that. Watched a few dances, and decide to forget about the other club (Marachibo) , and head back to the Strip as I had a date to meet a

Pro who I had a TLN with the night before. She was a 8 and was fun at the Disco. She made all the right moves, and for 100K TLN I took her. Johana had great nateral tits, and was playful in bed. Not a GFE but very good. She wanted me to take her again for the next night. At this point I made a decision based on the fact that she had some real goods points. No cell phone calls, and she said all the right things. I agreed to meet her again as I hoped another night would move her performance up to a GFE level. Turned out no better than the first night so I will not repeat. If I use a girl more than twice, the GFE is a must.

Been having trouble hooking up with one of my favorites from a strip club from past trips. Finally got thru to her, and I think I wll see her tonight. With her no need to sweat a GFE as she is great.

After 3 days here so far MDE is still great for P4P. Problem for me is the lack of a beach. Too much down time. I know my next trip will have a nice beach, and no it will not be to CTG

I also was quoted 70k for 30 min s at Ejetivo, They say sex sells but I wasn't buying it.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1198146]I also was quoted 70k for 30 min s at Ejetivo, They say sex sells but I wasn't buying it.[/QUOTE]It seems the push is upward in MDE for P4P.

Except for my regulars in Mayorista, all the girls are asking 40 or 50 K at first. I have been also asking prices for my Wingman as he has zero Spanish. So I have talked to a lot of girls to see this trend. I was able to get my Wing prices of 30 K except for one girl who he had to have. He paid the 50 K, but at least I was able to get her to agree to a BBBJ for that price.

A new first for me. I'm favoring a sore foot, but while trying to catch a Metro I pulled a groin muscle. So that night with a new girl in my bed I did not even try to touch her. She fell asleep, and the next morning offered me sexo, but I refused. Man I hate to have new firsts that are bad. Hopefully the pain lets up as I don't intend to not have action two nights in a row.

Another note, rain is very much in the picture here. It has rained 3 out of the last 4 days.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1198321]It seems the push is upward in MDE for P4P.

Except for my regulars in Mayorista, all the girls are asking 40 or 50 K at first. I have been also asking prices for my Wingman as he has zero Spanish. So I have talked to a lot of girls to see this trend. I was able to get my Wing prices of 30 K except for one girl who he had to have. He paid the 50 K, but at least I was able to get her to agree to a BBBJ for that price.

A new first for me. I'm favoring a sore foot, but while trying to catch a Metro I pulled a groin muscle. So that night with a new girl in my bed I did not even try to touch her. She fell asleep, and the next morning offered me sexo, but I refused. Man I hate to have new firsts that are bad. Hopefully the pain lets up as I don't intend to not have action two nights in a row.

Another note, rain is very much in the picture here. It has rained 3 out of the last 4 days.[/QUOTE]So according to OANDA it is roughly $40 for a centro strip club session and between $21/25 for a mayorista budget romp? It seems like the street scene is still somewhat of a deal if you get the add-on goodies included with the price. The rate at the el centro strip clubs are concerning. Again provided that add-on goodies are included in the price it is still a deal. However one needs to include the other expenses such as beer and cab fare. If that is the case then let's raise that session by at least $10/15 to $50/55. Still not a bad deal but service would have to be stellar. Centro strip club sessions can be flops or rushed at times just like mayorista. This depends on varying factors. Assuming casa prices are the same (I doubt it) it would be safe to say the DAY is when to play. When night falls you are doing the mayorista shuffle or slumming it with Artisttyp on De Grieff calle 53.

I am not sure if this appeals to me. After all $40/50 ST can be had in many places across the globe. You would need to love just being in MDE for that to work. Luckily $25 hotels still exist in the centro. Right?

Lucky are the guys who have on going affairs with beautiful paisas and are able to bypass the average joe scene. GFE paradise or ST debauchery."Up to you charlie".

JG is dropping science. Do the math. The budget universe now falls between $20 and $50. What happened to my $6 BBBJ's? Back to Harlem, USA cerca 1987.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1198335]So according to OANDA it is roughly $40 for a centro strip club session and between $21/25 for a mayorista budget romp? It seems like the street scene is still somewhat of a deal if you get the add-on goodies included with the price. The rate at the el centro strip clubs are concerning. Again provided that add-on goodies are included in the price it is still a deal. However one needs to include the other expenses such as beer and cab fare. If that is the case then let's raise that session by at least $10/15 to $50/55. Still not a bad deal but service would have to be stellar. Centro strip club sessions can be flops or rushed at times just like mayorista. This depends on varying factors. Assuming casa prices are the same (I doubt it) it would be safe to say the DAY is when to play. When night falls you are doing the mayorista shuffle or slumming it with Artisttyp on De Grieff calle 53.

I am not sure if this appeals to me. After all $40/50 ST can be had in many places across the globe. You would need to love just being in MDE for that to work. Luckily $25 hotels still exist in the centro. Right?

Lucky are the guys who have on going affairs with beautiful paisas and are able to bypass the average joe scene. GFE paradise or ST debauchery."Up to you charlie".

JG is dropping science. Do the math. The budget universe now falls between $20 and $50. What happened to my $6 BBBJ's? Back to Harlem, USA cerca 1987.[/QUOTE]Central strip club price is about that, yes. 70K and then another 5K-15K for drinks likely. You can get the extras for free and if the girls are having a slow night 40 or 50 K can still be had. Mayo they all said 25K.

1987 was 24 years ago. The consumer price index went to 226.545 from 109.7, a multiplier of about 2.07, so your $6 BBJs should only be $12.39 US or 22.563,63 COP. You are getting hosed.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1198435]Central strip club price is about that, yes. 70K and then another 5K-15K for drinks likely. You can get the extras for free and if the girls are having a slow night 40 or 50 K can still be had. Mayo they all said 25K.[/QUOTE]It is not that big of a deal, but I don't see this 25k as the standard price in Mayorista. Now if you are talking local guys then 25 or maybe 20K is the right price.

This forum is mostly for non locals so that is the prices I am quoting. Now you might think I don't know how to operate here to get good deals, but other guys who speak better Spanish than I do have noticed the rize in prices here (asking prices anyway as most will go for 30 K.)

Not trying to make this an issue, but for newbees here to try and get the better girls for 25 K they will be disapointed.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1198461]It is not that big of a deal, but I don't see this 25k as the standard price in Mayorista. Now if you are talking local guys then 25 or maybe 20K is the right price.

This forum is mostly for non locals so that is the prices I am quoting. Now you might think I don't know how to operate here to get good deals, but other guys who speak better Spanish than I do have noticed the rize in prices here (asking prices anyway as most will go for 30 K.)

Not trying to make this an issue, but for newbees here to try and get the better girls for 25 K they will be disapointed.[/QUOTE]I don't know what to tell you, it's not a regular spot for me but I've been a handful of times in the past couple of years and never been quoted more than 25K for half hour FS. I am clearly a foreigner (mainly because of my size) , my Spanish is somewhere between intermediate and fluent but I do speak with an accent.

It may be that prices are increasing, if so, the Mayo would be dead to me. You're paying 20-30K in cab rides round trip and the girls are pretty low quality, SW is el centro can be as good or better and I've never taken one of them.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1198467]It may be that prices are increasing, if so, the Mayo would be dead to me. You're paying 20-30K in cab rides round trip and the girls are pretty low quality, SW is el centro can be as good or better and I've never taken one of them.[/QUOTE]Exactly or at least less appealing for those who don't use the metro to get there.

I am reserving a limited number of seats in the gutter for those who care to join me. See you on Calle 53. Easy access to metro until 11pm.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1198461]It is not that big of a deal, but I don't see this 25k as the standard price in Mayorista. Now if you are talking local guys then 25 or maybe 20K is the right price.

This forum is mostly for non locals so that is the prices I am quoting. Now you might think I don't know how to operate here to get good deals, but other guys who speak better Spanish than I do have noticed the rize in prices here (asking prices anyway as most will go for 30 K.)

Not trying to make this an issue, but for newbees here to try and get the better girls for 25 K they will be disapointed.[/QUOTE]I was at mayo and a cute chica was flirting and drinking beers that I bought her, and she made the critical mistake of saying she hadn't had a customer in eight days. Which may or may not have been a lie. So I told her she can come back to my hotel do exactly what I tell you to do, you are going to spend 2 hours with me. And I am going to pay you 50mil, End of story, end of discussion. Her reply was "SI, Vamos". This is what I love about Medellin! It was one of my better sessions!"Boldness has magic, power and genious in it. Oh, and when I didn't have change for the cab driver she paid the cab! Don't go with pre concieved notions, lie as much as the chicas do, By the way I am not young, not good looking, and I aint a super smooth talker! Buena suerte

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1198507]I was at mayo and a cute chica was flirting and drinking beers that I bought her, and she made the critical mistake of saying she hadn't had a customer in eight days. Which may or may not have been a lie. So I told her she can come back to my hotel do exactly what I tell you to do, you are going to spend 2 hours with me. And I am going to pay you 50mil, End of story, end of discussion. Her reply was "SI, Vamos". This is what I love about Medellin! It was one of my better sessions!"Boldness has magic, power and genious in it. Oh, and when I didn't have change for the cab driver she paid the cab! Don't go with pre concieved notions, lie as much as the chicas do, By the way I am not young, not good looking, and I aint a super smooth talker! Buena suerte[/QUOTE]You STUD. LOL

[QUOTE=John Gault;1198321]Another note, rain is very much in the picture here. It has rained 3 out of the last 4 days.[/QUOTE]Medellin has two rain seasons: April-Jun, September-November. October is the wettest month. During the rain season it rains almost every day, and most of the street girls don't show up for work, except for DUFOs (dirty, ugly, fat, oldies)

[QUOTE=John Gault;1198321]It seems the push is upward in MDE for P4P.[/QUOTE]P4P prices have gone up 50-100% from 4 or 5 years ago. Five years ago, Centro street girls were 10-15K, and Mayorista girls 15K. Loutron was less than 100K six years ago and now it's around 200K. Prices will continue to push up.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1198467]It may be that prices are increasing, if so, the Mayo would be dead to me. You're paying 20-30K in cab rides round trip and the girls are pretty low quality, SW is el centro can be as good or better and I've never taken one of them.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=John Gault;1198321]Except for my regulars in Mayorista, all the girls are asking 40 or 50 K at first. I have been also asking prices for my Wingman as he has zero Spanish. So I have talked to a lot of girls to see this trend. I was able to get my Wing prices of 30 K except for one girl who he had to have. He paid the 50 K, but at least I was able to get her to agree to a BBBJ for that price.[/QUOTE]Street girls shouldn't be charging more than the Centro casas. Street girls are more risky (I. E. More likely to give poor service, be rip-offs, infected with diseases, etc). Also you have to add to the street girl cost the room fee 10-20K for 30 minutes, of which she gets a 50% commission from the hotel. In contrast, at the Centro casas the room is included and her cut is about half of the session price. Therefore it's outrageous the street girl is raking in about double the amount the Centro casa girl is making per session.

More than 90% of the street girls are low quality. More than 50% of the casa girls are low quality. Most of them are cellulite chubbies.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1198146]I also was quoted 70k for 30 min s at Ejetivo, They say sex sells but I wasn't buying it.[/QUOTE]Five or six years ago it was 40K. You can find better deals in other Colombian cities where club girls go for 50K for one hour.

[QUOTE=Jaxon;1198667]Five or six years ago it was 40K. You can find better deals in other Colombian cities where club girls go for 50K for one hour.[/QUOTE]But 10, 000 pesos is about $5. 55 US Is the US ecomomy really that bad or is Colombia Really drawing the this type of tourist?

Used Willi I found on the list. He helped me find a better boutique hotel at a cheaper price. The place I had reserved was a dump but website pictures look FABULOUS. Highlights of my trip:

1. He takes me to some house in the hills that looks like Pablo Escobar's house from the 70's. Furniture has not changed in over 30 years. Picked 23 year old. She asked only for donatation for her studies. Gave her 70 bucks. Excellent service with 4 follow up sessions. Never asked me a dime. Always gave her what I wanted usually 60-70 bucks.

2. He takes me to some casa near Mangos. I am about to take one girl upstairs for 75, 000 and Willi negotiates a threesome for me with these two 18 whyear old negritas. I paid 50, 000k for both 30 minutes. Got porn star service. No one has ever done me that way. Very memorable. Thanks Willi.

3. On the 4th casa we check out during the day, business is slow and chicas are bored. Willi helped me negotiate a three some for $50, 000. Gave them tip of $10, 000 each because the 23 years knew how to use her pussy to squeeze my cock. 18 year gave decent performance but was new.

4. He took me to Penol, paragliding, ATV motos, and to a waterfall.

Awesome Trip. Be back in January.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1198777]But 10, 000 pesos is about $5. 55 US Is the US ecomomy really that bad or is Colombia Really drawing the this type of tourist?[/QUOTE]The dollar is weak as fuck everywhere.

To put this in a bit of perspective, why not compare prices P4P in Brazil five to ten years ago. The real was like 3. 5-1 with the dollar, look where it is now. You can monger less expensively in Fort Lauderdale now LOL

Are there any other places in Medellin that offer a similar setup (lazy mans delight, girls come to you) to Casa Blanca ("The Mansion")?

Quality more important than price.

Does anyone know the name of the hotel about a block up the hill from the Viscaya Mall? There is a grocery store across the street. It has been a few years since I stayed there and I would like to return. They have small efficiencies with kitchen and views of the mountains. Thanks. Otherwise, can someone PM me on the phone and address for the Medellin Mansion? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Jaxon;1198667]Five or six years ago it was 40K. You can find better deals in other Colombian cities where club girls go for 50K for one hour.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TweedleD;1198777]But 10, 000 pesos is about $5. 55 US Is the US ecomomy really that bad or is Colombia Really drawing the this type of tourist?[/QUOTE]Over the last several years, P4P prices have outpaced inflation by several multiples. There are several contributing factors. Substantially more sex tourists going to Medellin. More sex tourists ignorant of local market prices, thereby overpaying. More sex tourists paying tips. More sex tourists paying increasingly bigger tips.

[QUOTE=Jaxon;1198639]P4P prices have gone up 50-100% from 4 or 5 years ago. Five years ago, Centro street girls were 10-15K, and Mayorista girls 15K. Loutron was less than 100K six years ago and now it's around 200K. Prices will continue to push up.[/QUOTE]The dollar was as strongest 2001 and had it's lowest value just before the crisis 2008. Today it stands at 1848 COP, but has been well over 2500, which is a fall in value by 26.

This explains at least 50% of the inflation, maybe even more. Some products and services have risen rapidly, while others stands still.

Medellin have had steady economical growth since the 1970th, which is unique in Latinamerica. Luxury services and products meet a constantly higher demand.

Today you need to to a little more research to get a good $/sex-ratio, that's all.

Those prices you mention seem almost unreal. With a minimum wage at 450k COP (+ social benefits) I can't see why anyone would sell themselves for 5k COP.

[QUOTE=Pirata2011; 1199007]The dollar was as strongest 2001 and had it's lowest value just before the crisis 2008. Today it stands at 1848 COP, but has been well over 2500, which is a fall in value by 26.

This explains at least 50% of the inflation, maybe even more. Some products and services have risen rapidly, while others stands still.

Medellin have had steady economical growth since the 1970th, which is unique in Latinamerica. Luxury services and products meet a constantly higher demand.

Today you need to to a little more research to get a good $/sex-ratio, that's all.

Those prices you mention seem almost unreal. With a minimum wage at 450k COP (+ social benefits) I can't see why anyone would sell themselves for 5k COP.[/QUOTE]Minimum wage in Colombia is now 560kcop mensual. What social benefits are you talking about. The Colombians I talk to don't have any social benefits or government assistance whatsoever. Its everyman for himself.

[QUOTE=Tankjr;1198970]How do I get in contact with Willie?[/QUOTE][url]Www.willisbestguidemedellin.com[/url]

E-mail: [email]willisbestsupport@gmail.com[/email]

Cel: (573) 300 677 8058.

He was real professional. I highly recommend him

[QUOTE=Jaxon;1198992]Over the last several years, P4P prices have outpaced inflation by several multiples. There are several contributing factors. Substantially more sex tourists going to Medellin. More sex tourists ignorant of local market prices, thereby overpaying. More sex tourists paying tips. More sex tourists paying increasingly bigger tips.[/QUOTE]1. Agree that the P4P price change is not related to the inflation in other goods and services. Probably, the P4P price change is more influenced by 'price elasticity' of the sex-service market. If a price increase by a specific percentage (ie. 20%) results in a decline of sales by a smaller percentage (ie. 10% decline in customers) , it is non price-elastic and the price increase in question will increase overall revenue in spite of the decline in the number of customers. I think the P4P price jumped in the last decade because the market was inelastic- in other words, insufficient people quit or reduced buying the service in spite of the price increases, and thereby rewarded the price increases in effect.

2. Foreigners account for only a small portion of overall customers in sex industry. So, the P4P price increase is more likely to be because of domestic (Colombian) customers, who did not sufficiently reduce or quit buying the services. This may be because of the increase of upper-class and middle-class Colombians.

[QUOTE=Tankjr;1198970]How do I get in contact with Willie?[/QUOTE]I found him on the Medellin Lists. His information is at the bottom. His website is [url]www.willisbestguidemedellin.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1199082]1. Agree that the P4P price change is not related to the inflation in other goods and services. Probably, the P4P price change is more influenced by 'price elasticity' of the sex-service market. If a price increase by a specific percentage (ie. 20%) results in a decline of sales by a smaller percentage (ie. 10% decline in customers) , it is non price-elastic and the price increase in question will increase overall revenue in spite of the decline in the number of customers. I think the P4P price jumped in the last decade because the market was inelastic- in other words, insufficient people quit or reduced buying the service in spite of the price increases, and thereby rewarded the price increases in effect.

2. Foreigners account for only a small portion of overall customers in sex industry. So, the P4P price increase is more likely to be because of domestic (Colombian) customers, who did not sufficiently reduce or quit buying the services. This may be because of the increase of upper-class and middle-class Colombians.[/QUOTE]If you were in my class I would give you an A

When you visit these casas you don't see them full with foreigners. They are perhpaps 80% filled with locals. Maybe the other % is foreigners or colombians from other cities.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1199082]1. Agree that the P4P price change is not related to the inflation in other goods and services. Probably, the P4P price change is more influenced by 'price elasticity' of the sex-service market. If a price increase by a specific percentage (ie. 20%) results in a decline of sales by a smaller percentage (ie. 10% decline in customers) , it is non price-elastic and the price increase in question will increase overall revenue in spite of the decline in the number of customers. I think the P4P price jumped in the last decade because the market was inelastic- in other words, insufficient people quit or reduced buying the service in spite of the price increases, and thereby rewarded the price increases in effect.

2. Foreigners account for only a small portion of overall customers in sex industry. So, the P4P price increase is more likely to be because of domestic (Colombian) customers, who did not sufficiently reduce or quit buying the services. This may be because of the increase of upper-class and middle-class Colombians.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1199207]I'm thinking about coming down again. Probably my 12th trip to Colombia. Anyone living there that can tell me what to expect as far as the weather goes for the next couple of weeks? I plan to come just after the 1st of October. Also can you guys talk about hotels, things to do, women and any other subject besides what a woman charges you for sex? I'll tell you what I pay when I travel. $0. 000 and I am not poor by any means but I do speak spanish and attract beautiful and wealthy women right here in my neighborhood.

Thanks![/QUOTE]First off there is a forum about hotels if you need info about them.

This site is mostly about P4P, Most of us guys have to pay for sexo. Congrats on your success with non Pro's.

One other thing. If I could attract beautiful and wealthy women right here in my neighborhood, I then would stay in my own neighborhood. All my foreign travel is getting to be a pain in the ass.

Only good energy.

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1199207]I'm thinking about coming down again. Probably my 12th trip to Colombia. Anyone living there that can tell me what to expect as far as the weather goes for the next couple of weeks? I plan to come just after the 1st of October. Also can you guys talk about hotels, things to do, women and any other subject besides what a woman charges you for sex? I'll tell you what I pay when I travel. $0. 000 and I am not poor by any means but I do speak spanish and attract beautiful and wealthy women right here in my neighborhood.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Sound's like you want to join "Trip Advisor." For having been there 12 times, you're pretty ignorant on what to "expect."

[QUOTE=Pirata2011; 1199007]The dollar was as strongest 2001 and had it's lowest value just before the crisis 2008. Today it stands at 1848 COP, but has been well over 2500, which is a fall in value by 26.

This explains at least 50% of the inflation, maybe even more. Some products and services have risen rapidly, while others stands still.

I can't see why anyone would sell themselves for 5k COP.[/QUOTE]Not true. Dollar was strongest in 2003 when it was at almost 3000 COP.

How did you compute ¨fall in value by 26¨ and ¨sell themselves for 5k¨?

Regardless, the discussion is on the local economy and real inflation rate of prices in COP, not dollars.

[QUOTE=Pirata2011; 1199007]The dollar was as strongest 2001 and had it's lowest value just before the crisis 2008. Today it stands at 1848 COP, but has been well over 2500, which is a fall in value by 26.

This explains at least 50% of the inflation, maybe even more. Some products and services have risen rapidly, while others stands still.

I can't see why anyone would sell themselves for 5k COP.[/QUOTE]Not true. Dollar was strongest in 2003 when it was at almost 3000 COP.

How did you compute ¨fall in value by 26¨ and ¨sell themselves for 5k¨?

Regardless, the discussion is on the local economy and real inflation rate of prices in COP, not dollars.

If I was attracting beautiful wealthy American women, I would not have feel the need to look for poor South American women, Some Men are a little delusional. I think when I go on a Medellin run I'm the king of the world, when it comes to the women, If you are one of the fortunate Men who attracts the USA ladies good luck with the alimony payments, and I'm sure your ex thanks you for the house and half your income.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1199082]1. Agree that the P4P price change is not related to the inflation in other goods and services. Probably, the P4P price change is more influenced by 'price elasticity' of the sex-service market. If a price increase by a specific percentage (ie. 20%) results in a decline of sales by a smaller percentage (ie. 10% decline in customers) , it is non price-elastic and the price increase in question will increase overall revenue in spite of the decline in the number of customers. I think the P4P price jumped in the last decade because the market was inelastic- in other words, insufficient people quit or reduced buying the service in spite of the price increases, and thereby rewarded the price increases in effect.

2. Foreigners account for only a small portion of overall customers in sex industry. So, the P4P price increase is more likely to be because of domestic (Colombian) customers, who did not sufficiently reduce or quit buying the services. This may be because of the increase of upper-class and middle-class Colombians.[/QUOTE]Also, a growing middle-class and upper-class causes fewer girls to join the P4P workforce, reducing the supply the P4P girls in the market. Reduction in supply drives prices up. Today there are half the number of street girls available and considerable fewer attractive girls at the clubs and casas than in 2007, for example.

Great weather! Spirit Airline is up to their usual games. $40 to carry on a bag!

Staying at Prado 61 in Centro my first few nights. [url]www.61prado.com[/url] Nice attitude from the staff. Decent place for the money. $25 a night and the place is full of cute regular girls who I guess are guests as well. Receptionist has a body to die for and speaks basic English. PM me if anyone wants to grab a beer and do some recon work tonight.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1199018]Minimum wage in Colombia is now 560kcop mensual. What social benefits are you talking about. The Colombians I talk to don't have any social benefits or government assistance whatsoever. Its everyman for himself.[/QUOTE]My friend works in a restuarant and makes 1 million COP / months, but he mentioned that the cost is 1, 3 million for the company for ensurances of different kinds. Yes, it's true that unions and the ordinary worker don't have much of social security if being sick or unemployed, in contrast to the Westeuropean countries. So I will conduct a small investigation!

Good or bad? What we do know is that union leaders and human right ativists live dangerously in Colombia.

The economy is flexible and growth is high and has been so for decades, but the poor now demand higher wages for their services as the size of the middleclass and their incomes has grown rapidly. Still the average colombian is a young person and the competition is hard, so that keeps places as La mayorista with it's standard price 30k going. That is $US16. That is maybe 10% for what you pay for an equal medium hooker in the US!

Reminds me of Thailand, the land of the smile. The people are very friendly, but internal conflicts, corruption, and political instability are a big obstacle in the modernization process. Just like in Colombia.

What I found the last time I was there (May) , was that the casa girls were about the same or even slightly better than before, and they were far more friendly. The casa prices have gone up somewhat since I started going, but are nowhere at a level which would start to see a falloff in activity (price inelastic). I would disagree.

Somewhat with the comments on the middle class, what I noticed was an even greater discrepancy than before between the rich and poor, and virtually all the money flowing into MDE was going pretty much to Poblado and Envigado (with some to Laurales) , along with a very large influx of girls figuring they could make a buck with the new money and foreigners there. In fact, the basic cost of living in Medellin seems to have gone up astronomically, and, at the same time, the covetedness of the girls, by seeing these huge new malls, Santa Fe for example, but being unable to afford any of it, makes them gravitate to the only business where they can hope to buy anything, given the basic wage is still only around 650k+ or. Per month. Just my observations, anyone is free to comment. As an accountant, conversations like this are ALMOST a turnon.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1199342]I think when I go on a Medellin run I'm the KING of the world, when it comes to the women[/QUOTE]Of course you are a King, I'm King, everyone a King King. That's the beauty of Purchasing Power and fluctuations in the local currency vs. The Dollar / Euro. Lately, we've been getting the short end of the stick, but in comparison to one's choices in the USA, as Vinny from Jersey Shore would say to Pauly "Forget 'about it". Only in poorer countries, like Colombia, SE Asian countries, does the foreign currency "ROCK". Even with all that national insecurity, pullin' a dime (top shelf quality to say the least) , from what I consider to be the hottest girls on the planet, is / always will be "PARADISE" when its pennies on the dollar.

Peace

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1199342]If I was attracting beautiful wealthy American women, I would not have feel the need to look for poor South American women, Some Men are a little delusional. I think when I go on a Medellin run I'm the king of the world, when it comes to the women, If you are one of the fortunate Men who attracts the USA ladies good luck with the alimony payments, and I'm sure your ex thanks you for the house and half your income.[/QUOTE]You are not a nice man. You speak the truth but it is not pleasant to hear it.

You are usually such a positive guy, why give the troll any attention?

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1199399]John G.

Runny is a troll. He posted here a while back and spewed his usual crap about never paying and getting laid for free. I've never seen a photo of one of his conquests though so it's probably 40 year old fuglies that he thinks are a 9. 5. He also has a "lot" of money but still flies coach. He has some tennis pro buddy that he tips heavily so he can win and lets him tag along at night so he can hit on local chicas. He'll post a few more baiting messages then slither off back to whatever fantasy land he usually dwells in.

Nixonbd hit it on the head when he wondered why a guy who's been to Colombia 12 times needs to ask such dumbshit questions. It's just a lead in for his self-promotion as the king of the freebies.

Reef.[/QUOTE]

i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.

location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.

[quote=youngman44; 1199549]i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.

location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.[/quote]do you have an address for new location?

[QUOTE=Pirata2011; 1199368]La mayorista with it's standard price 30k going. That is $US16. That is maybe 10% for what you pay for an equal medium hooker in the US!

Reminds me of Thailand, the land of the smile.[/QUOTE]You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.

Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.

[QUOTE=Jaxon; 1199551]You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.

Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Comparing Thailand to Medellin is comparing apples to oranges. Both have their plusses and minuses. A lot of guys don't like the Asian features of the girls and the hellish 24 hour flight to Thailand is a no-go for a lot of guys, I can leave for Medellin in the morning from the east coast USA and be up to my eyeballs in fine colombian ass before dinner time, Thailand will take me until well into the following day and when I get there I need a day to recuperate from the flight. Your statement that one is much more likely to get a bad session in Medellin is simply not true if you are an even slightly experienced monger. Any monger worth his salt can weed out the bad apples 95% of the time long before they get to the room. Many guys don't have the luxury of being able to get away for ten days or more, going to Thailand for less than that is not practical but going to Colombia is for most people living in the USA.

Just my 2 cents

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1199567]the hellish 24 hour flight to Thailand is a no-go for a lot of guys[/QUOTE]Only an issue for guys living in North or South America, which is a tiny minority of the planet. I forget the exact number, but they say something like 75% of human population lives within a 5 hour flight of Bangkok. For the vast majority of the planet, Medellin is a hell of a lot more difficult to get to than Bangkok. How many international airlines serve Medellin? Even despite the distances, I'd guess a lot more USA guys choose Thailand over Colombia. For guys in Asia, Middle East and Europe, Colombia is a much longer haul than Thailand.

[quote=youngman44; 1199549]i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.

location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.[/quote]you mentioned "great massage" how about the rest of the session? $210 for a full session? 1 hour? it's your money and you can do as you please with it. but damn!

i know you're somewhat of a new member (two posts i believe) , maybe new to the colombia scene but for $210k you can get the same quality girl for the entire night! also you would save on the cab rides, and chances are better quality service for a fraction of that price at the different casas and clubs! it has been said time and time again by more senior members that loutron is a huge rip off! you're paying for their rent and building supplies to finish the house (i have never been to the new house, what's the new address. for future reference jajajjaja).

when i was new to the mede scene i was all about this place but then i did my home work, did some exploring, made some friends and the end results was better service, same hot chicks, and saved a ton of pasoes. i actually hooked up with a girl (expros / semi-pros) at a club that used to work there. guess what? when you got them out of that place and price structure you're looking at $80k-$150k. which is still on the upper end of the market value but still way cheaper than that ragging rip off that is loutron. just my two cents and i'm just trying to help!

I'm on day nine of a 14 day trip.

The networking with other Gringo's here has been outstanding. Two guys I met here have given me very good intel. Girls who I have seen here many times but not taken are now on my to do list after hearing how good they were. One of these fellows is doing three a day, and also scouting out threesome possibiltys with real lesbo action. The other guy is more laid back but has already introduced my Wing and me to a Spinner who my Wing has fallen in love with. At the table he was debating if he should take her. I then told her that my friend likes kiss's and hugs. She then almost jumoed on him with a big kiss and hug. At that point I told him " either you take her right now or I'm going to." He then made his move, and even though I'm happy that he has found a partner for the rest of this trip, it leaves me to not sample this fine dish.

Myself on this trip I have had health problems, and had to limit myself to water instead of beer, and one day I had to not have a girl which was rare for me.

Last night I was back in action, and I did two with the last one being a TLN for 100K. I have had her before, but this night she provided the GFE that I crave. Maybe the night off was a good thing after all.

A lot of Gringos in attendence, and all of them I have met are good guys.

I am going to focus on Lesbo threesomes for the remainder of this adventure.

[QUOTE=Jaxon; 1199551]You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.

Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Please inform me of the city in the USA where I can get Mayorista type girls for $20.

Of course your view of Mayorista Girls may be different than mine. I just had a TLN with one that I would pay $100 for in the Good Ole USA.

Thailand may be great, but I prefer the girls of Latin America. The ass's alone swing the deal for me.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1199596]You mentioned "Great massage" how about the rest of the session? $210 for a full session? 1 Hour? It's your money and you can do as you please with it. But DAMN!

I know you're somewhat of a new member (two posts I believe) , maybe new to the Colombia scene but for $210K you can get the SAME quality girl for the entire night! Also you would save on the cab rides, and chances are better quality service for a fraction of that price at the different casas and clubs! It has been said time and time again by more senior members that Loutron is a HUGE rip off! You're paying for their rent and building supplies to finish the house (I have never been to the new house, what's the new address. For future reference jajajjaja).

When I was new to the Mede scene I was ALL about this place but then I did my home work, did some exploring, made some friends and the end results was better service, SAME hot chicks, and saved a ton of pasoes. I actually hooked up with a girl (expros / semi-pros) at a club that used to work there. Guess what? When you got them out of that place and price structure you're looking at $80K-$150K. Which is still on the upper end of the Market Value but still WAY cheaper than that RAGGING RIP OFF that is Loutron. Just my two cents and I'm just trying to help![/QUOTE]Well I have lived here for almost three years now. I own two homes. Had another one but I sold it to some gringo. LOL. I am not on a pension or have to pinch my pennies. I am not looking for the Cheapest bang. No pun intented. For the fuck. So I guess I am stupid. I have dated girls from Loutrons. I like it. Its clean. Quality. And close to where I live. I have a car so taxi fares mean nothing to me. I like all Medellin and Colombia has to offer. I go to other casa. I know local "normal" girls. Have a few friends with rights. All is good. Always hunting as that is what I do. I don't need nor want a girlfriend. YMMV.

The address means nothing as you will never find it by that. But here goes. Calle 16A Sur no 9E-500 tele 44-44204 Cell 313-230-2756

[QUOTE=Youngman44; 1199617]Well I have lived here for almost three years now. I own two homes. Had another one but I sold it to some gringo. LOL. I am not on a pension or have to pinch my pennies. I am not looking for the Cheapest bang. No pun intented. For the fuck. So I guess I am stupid. I have dated girls from Loutrons. I like it. Its clean. Quality. And close to where I live. I have a car so taxi fares mean nothing to me. I like all Medellin and Colombia has to offer. I go to other casa. I know local "normal" girls. Have a few friends with rights. All is good. Always hunting as that is what I do. I don't need nor want a girlfriend. YMMV.

The address means nothing as you will never find it by that. But here goes. Calle 16A Sur no 9E-500 tele 44-44204 Cell 313-230-2756[/QUOTE]Fair enough, thank you for the address.

[QUOTE=Dad Fun 555;1199589]Only an issue for guys living in North or South America, which is a tiny minority of the planet. I forget the exact number, but they say something like 75% of human population lives within a 5 hour flight of Bangkok. For the vast majority of the planet, Medellin is a hell of a lot more difficult to get to than Bangkok. How many international airlines serve Medellin? Even despite the distances, I'd guess a lot more USA guys choose Thailand over Colombia. For guys in Asia, Middle East and Europe, Colombia is a much longer haul than Thailand.[/QUOTE]It may be true that 75% of the human population resides within 5 hours of Bangkok but I would think that is irrelevant because 99. 999% of those humans don't belong to ISG which are the people I was referring to, who gives a rats ass if some broke ass rice farmer in Vietnam lives an hour away, he can't afford the flight anyway. I would think that the flight to Bangkok for most of the members of ISG is in fact a 20 plus hour journey and that was my point.

I would think that is irrelevant because 99. 999% of those humans don't belong to ISG which are the people I was referring to, who gives a rats ass if some broke ass rice farmer in Vietnam lives an hour away. Hahaha. I don't want to kiss some ones ass but this report put me in a great mood I'm still laughing, thanks a lot Man.

[QUOTE=Youngman44; 1199617]Well I have lived here for almost three years now. I own two homes. Had another one but I sold it to some gringo. LOL. I am not on a pension or have to pinch my pennies. I am not looking for the Cheapest bang. No pun intented. For the fuck. So I guess I am stupid. I have dated girls from Loutrons. I like it. Its clean. Quality. And close to where I live. I have a car so taxi fares mean nothing to me. I like all Medellin and Colombia has to offer. I go to other casa. I know local "normal" girls. Have a few friends with rights. All is good. Always hunting as that is what I do. I don't need nor want a girlfriend. YMMV.

The address means nothing as you will never find it by that. But here goes. Calle 16A Sur no 9E-500 tele 44-44204 Cell 313-230-2756[/QUOTE]Youngman,

You have posted twice, and both posts contain new infomation. Thanks. You really don't need to justify your actions.

I did not realize that going to LOUTRON is now a capital Offense for the "Price Police".

Price for Loutron is fixed and you did not overpay.

Bandy

[QUOTE=Jaxon; 1199551]You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.

Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.[/QUOTE]BKK and Patts certainly have much larger scenes, but to say it is better is an opinion only. I have been to Medellin multiple times, and just returned from LOS. I loved Thailand, as I love Medellin and Lima. Each are wonderful.

I will say though that guys who say they prefer Latinas due to great asses (which is one of the reasons I love Latinas, and have always preferred them- I am not a fan of skinny girls) , would be very plesently suprised by the quality of many Thai girls bottoms, and the diversity of body types.

Also,I will say the plane ride from the west coast was not as bad as I thought it would be. Food in Thailand is fantastic, equal to Lima, and far better than MDE.

[QUOTE=John Gault;1199606]The ass's alone swing the deal for me.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more!

Hi GUYS!

I have a funny story for ya,

I was in Colombia almost 1 month between July and August,

Second day I was there I tried a prepago in chicas lindas,

She told me I was the first customer. Next day I went out with her alone.

Without paying anything. But you know you can't trust a prepago.

So I took my laptop and began to look for a girl in internet I found on badoo a nice girl.

Nothing especial but I went to bello and get to know her,

Same night we were in my apartment, she acted like a girls that does everything in life

All opposite of other girls. She made me get drunk and I fucked her even if she was not so willing.

In the morning she woke up and wanted to do it forever. But I was bothered by his behaviour she wouldn't let me go.

So I dated with her a few times, but I had to go to Cartagena so I left her even if she made me a lot of problems.

When I was in Cartagena she called me and she made such a theatre that I began to think this girls was really in love with

Me, but something was missing, she told me she almost never had sex and she made me a lot of BBBJ without problems.

Even if I saw she wasn't so experienced. I went back to europe decided to leave her but when I called her.

Her sweet voice made me think I could give her a choice. So we went on. Now arrives the funny part.

She began to go out at night and I didn't bother about this. Unless from the fact that I night she called me drunk.

And told me I betraied her in Medellin. I knew I didn't do it so I understood that is conscience was not so clean.

I put an initial sum of 100mil pesos in a new cuenta created for the visa and woooow, after one week 70mil pesos were gone,

She always told me she didn't need money from me and she didn't ask me for money when I was there but I saw the

Account summary and no doubt she was her to take the money. Plus she always

Everyday spoke me about a different famale (she called it friend) friend she had. (but she acted like an almost virgin)

At this point I began to get fed up and I decided to enter via social engineering tecniques in her facebook account. And bingoooooooo.

This wonderful girl so sweet and in love is a nymphomane!

She kept speaking with other men told her best friend to go out and don't tell anyone.

What was happening so that I didn't get to know it.

Spoke with the male friend telling him that I am a problem and she couln't take more money.

From my account because I could have asked it.

Conclusions.

Woman that doesn't ask for money is going to cost more.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]158255[/ATTACH]

[QUOTE=Genio Della; 1199680]I put an initial sum of 100mil pesos in a new cuenta created for the visa and woooow, after one week 70mil pesos were gone,

She always told me she didn't need money from me and she didn't ask me for money when I was there but I saw the

Account summary and no doubt she was her to take the money. Plus she always

Everyday spoke me about a different famale (she called it friend) friend she had. (but she acted like an almost virgin)

At this point I began to get fed up and I decided to enter via social engineering tecniques in her facebook account. And bingoooooooo.

This wonderful girl so sweet and in love is a nymphomane!

She kept speaking with other men told her best friend to go out and don't tell anyone.

What was happening so that I didn't get to know it.

Spoke with the male friend telling him that I am a problem and she couln't take more money.

From my account because I could have asked it.

Conclusions.

Woman that doesn't ask for money is going to cost more.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]158255[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Thank you so very much for this masterpiece! Lessons learned!

Actually this looks like an old european or american case.

Because the girl is mentally sick, she is a nymphomane and mythomane (she says lies even.

In presence of evidence).

But yes putting a dumb cuenta and see what happens and entering the facebook profile,

Are the best ways of keeping track of the situation, someone would say.

That it's a privacy violation but this women violate so many laws that it makes me laugh.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1199690]Thank you so very much for this masterpiece! Lessons learned![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Genio Della; 1199680]Hi GUYS!

I have a funny story for ya, [/QUOTE]Genio. Thanks for the head up (thanks for the warning. Thanks for the information).

Gentlemen, unless you live in Medellin, speak near fluent paisa and are culturally tuned in the chances of not getting played are next to nothing. The key is to not come down here looking for love. Especially with an under 30 hottie. She knows her pussy is a money making machine in this day and age and the more lying and deceiving and utter bulshit she spews out the more money she makes and that is what it's all about.

Genio snuck into her Facebook and uncovered what is beneath just about all of these girls here.

So come on down but don't get sucked into the crap. Keep the putas as putas and you will leave a happier man with a straight head, more money in your wallet and a bigger smile on your face. JMHO

[QUOTE=Bandy; 1199660]Youngman,

You have posted twice, and both posts contain new infomation. Thanks. You really don't need to justify your actions.

I did not realize that going to LOUTRON is now a capital Offense for the "Price Police".

Price for Loutron is fixed and you did not overpay.

Bandy[/QUOTE]Look, I was mistaken, Youngman had / has a super low post count so I assumed (yeah I know what happens when you do that! LOL) he was a rookie and just wanted to point out that there are cheaper alternatives with comparable quality; IMO a better value. That is all. I had the best of intentions.

Overpaying is relative.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1199647]It may be true that 75% of the human population resides within 5 hours of Bangkok but I would think that is irrelevant because 99. 999% of those humans don't belong to ISG which are the people I was referring to, who gives a rats ass if some broke ass rice farmer in Vietnam lives an hour away f nt.[/QUOTE]Haha, funniest post in a long while, thanks Manizales!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1199647]It may be true that 75% of the human population resides within 5 hours of Bangkok but I would think that is irrelevant because 99. 999% of those humans don't belong to ISG which are the people I was referring to, who gives a rats ass if some broke ass rice farmer in Vietnam lives an hour away, he can't afford the flight anyway. I would think that the flight to Bangkok for most of the members of ISG is in fact a 20 plus hour journey and that was my point.[/QUOTE]Make fun all you want, but India has 1. 2 billion people, with a booming economy and emerging middle class, one of the most sexually repressed cultures on the planet, and has a significant gender imbalance (not enough women to go around). Mumbai is a grueling 4 hour flight to Bangkok. Lots of horny young guys with money who can't get action locally. Do the math. I don't think the fact that bar girls in Pattaya hold signs in Hindi (not to mention Russian, Arabic, etc) is a sign of the times as much as it is beginning of a long term trend. I doubt Bangkok is 20 hours for most ISG members. Maybe in Colombia section, but not the broader site. Huge swaths of ISG are from Asia, India, Middle East, Australia, Europe.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1199082]2. Foreigners account for only a small portion of overall customers in sex industry. So, the P4P price increase is more likely to be because of domestic (Colombian) customers, who did not sufficiently reduce or quit buying the services. This may be because of the increase of upper-class and middle-class Colombians.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nclpimp;1199249]When you visit these casas you don't see them full with foreigners. They are perhpaps 80% filled with locals. Maybe the other % is foreigners or colombians from other cities.[/QUOTE]It's easy to underestimate the number of foreigners because many of them look like middle and upper class Colombians and speak spanish. They come from North America, Caribbean, other Latin American countries, Europe, Middle-east, and speak spanish and english, and probably read ISG. I've met Cubanos, Venezolanos, Chilenos, Mexicanos, tourists from almost every Latin American country, and Spaniards, French, German, Italians, Israelis, Canadians, etc. At the higher-end P4P establishments during my time in Medellin. Almost all of them spoke spanish and english and looked like middle and upper class Colombians.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1199567]Your statement that one is much more likely to get a bad session in Medellin is simply not true if you are an even slightly experienced monger. Any monger worth his salt can weed out the bad apples 95% of the time long before they get to the room.[/QUOTE]Well, perhaps our standards for service are different. For many of us a session is not good if the girl refuses to kiss, refuses to perform BBBJ, refuses DATY, refuses the hand touching of her pussy, refuses the sucking of her breast, demands tips for these services, has a foul-smelling pussy and asshole, is not passionate and enthusiastic in bed, does not know how to fuck and suck well, cuts short the session time, etc.

I would like to comment again that 61 Prado is turning out to be a nice little place. Breakfast is additional 6k and well worth it IMHO. The hotel is a quiet place (noisy with chatter in the morning) on a quiet block walking distance from just about everything El Centro has to offer. Which brings me to my experience with Linda's yesterday. While enjoying a wonderful morning I checked out several casas yesterday. Unfortunately, I found the talent at the casas to be kind of low and sparse. Especially compared to what I had seen at the strip clubs on Calle Maricaibo the night before. Small lineups and many gorditas. Being a little frustrated I decided to stop at Lindas and see if the higher prices would be justified with prettier girls. Well, it did. I was quoted 100k for an hour. 150k for two hours. However, the house mom, said its early and asked me to wait 10 minutes so she could wake up some girls to introduce. It was around 11:30 am. She continues to explain that at night she has 12 girls. I met 2 very pleasant young ladies who I will say were definitely of superior appearance to any of the girls I had previously seen at any other casas that morning and a third who was also attractive but just seemed to me like she could have been in any of the other casas. The first girl sat down and chatted with me while I waited for the next. Then the next one sat down with me and waited for the third. The two of us sat and chatted for a good 15-20 minutes until I decided to leave and come back in the evening. Barcelona is right around the corner and it is here where I finally made a choice. A choice based purely on the fact that this little morena had the roundest smoothest ass and I just had to have some. Decent session but nothing spectacular. I got what I wanted. 30k + 3 mil propina.

Then I went home, had a little siesta, then headed back out to Nutibara. Guys! This restaurant is located diagonally across from Parque Botero, practically under the metro and is raised up on a platform so the view of all the action passing by is great! For 5mil I had a quarter of a roasted chicken with potato and arepa. Delicious and cheap! Previous night I had a larger meal with a grilled chicken breast, salad and platanos. Also excellent food. I highly recommend this place because I have been here countless times, their food is consistently good and I hope they never go out of business. A very reasonable and diverse menu with great prices and also great atmosphere, especially for a place to sit and eat outside in El Centro. So I don't know what the hell I did for the next several hours, took photos mostly, but I returned to Linda's a little after the 10 pm and what do you know, the same girls plus one new one. I hate to talk badly but this new girl, who was sweet and pretty cute, I could smell her through her jeans. NOt a good sign. Anyway, I am hanging out with these three girls waiting for 10 more to show up since these two girls said its early and too many girls always show up. Well. 1 other girl showed up, walked by two times but never introduced herself. I waited and waited then two dudes showed up and invited these two girls to another alcove in the place and ordered a bottle of aguardiente. After about 10 more minutes of chatting with the third new girl I was ready to leave when the guys invited us both to come and sit with them. WEll, we sat joked around and chatted for hours! Although no other chicas showed up, these girls had fun easy going playful attitudes and also this one guy was hilarious and apparently comes to meet the same girl every week. Finally, I decide its getting late and I decide I want to go upstairs and my chica says its one hundred for the room and one hundred for her. I express my confusion and she quickly counters with eighty for her. I explain what I was told about prices and she tells me. 100 is for an hour and 200 is for TLN. But that is only for the room. I explained that I only brought 100 for going upstairs and just a little bit more for drinks and whatever. She suggested I talk to the house mom to negotiate. The mom agrees to 100 for one hour or 200 TLN en Total! Perfect. So we go upstairs where apparently this girl is living. Notable mention: No hot water in shower. Total GFE. And the session must have been almost two hours, much of which was spent talking and just joking around. I WALKED back to my hotel which is 5 short blocks away at about 430am. I know my timing may sound a little off but it was difficult to keep track, since I don't wear a watch and my phone must have grown legs at Las Americas the previous evening during a 50k 30 minute session which started great but ended not so great. But I will say I saw many attractive, slim to athletic looking chicas at the clubs on Calle Maricaibo. (Calle 53) I was quoted an occasional 65k but mostly 70k at all of these places and 50k once at las Americas which I accepted. I was also called a pig once after I had declined and said it was too expensive.

Later guys!

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1199881]How much did you pay for lodging tours and all the other services.

Please advise.[/QUOTE]He was charging $25k an hour 2 hour minimum.

I arrived in Rionegro around 8PM Thursday night. 09/22/11, took a taxi ($58K) to my hotel in La Mayorista, checked in and was informed the hotel room has to be paid on a daily basis. Anyway, I was dead tired after an excruciating 20hr trip. Normal trip is just like 10 hours with one stop-from LA on a mileage redemption ticket but was ready for some action. I walked to La Mayorista after a shower around 10PM. It was not really a good night- lots of gorditas, old timers, and basically, a 6 or below, many doable nevertheless. But then I spotted Carolina from Robledo, probably an 9 but waited a while after a few beers-it seems like everytime I come Mayo, I always meet and do a Carolina- and wanted to see any chicas hotter than her showed up. I finally took her a little past midnight- 30K, no propina-she did not ask. Service was rather routine and besides I just wanted to get one in. You know what I mean. She gave a decent CBJ, was ready for any positions and did in those. Not a clock watcher but we finished in a little more than 30 minutes. Totally happy. I was not really sleepy so I decided to walk back out Mayo and had a few more beers. I saw Anna there, Margie's sister from the last trip, a little chubby, maybe a 6. Talked to her a little bit and was told she had been there all night long but no hombre. I kinda felt sorry for her so after a few more beers I took her. Nice attitude, excellent CBJ. 30K, no propina. 30 minutes. So 2 chicas in one night even though very tired, just like JG. LOL. By the way, I talked to many chicas last night and not one asked me for more than 30K. I did not understand why some of you lately have gotten quote of 50K or more.

Good days gents.

EZ

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1200009]By the way, I talked to many chicas last night and not one asked me for more than 30K. I did not understand why some of you lately have gotten quote of 50K or more.

EZ[/QUOTE]Mayorista Hoes will ask for more than 30k if they think, or you give off the rookie / newbie / gringo vibe like they can get it! If you give off the smell of blood to a school of hungry sharks get ready to haggle!

Pay the 42k. 30 for the chica and 12 for the room. Live and Learn!

I am envious. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1200009]So 2 chicas in one night even though very tired, just like JG. LOL. Good days gents.

EZ[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1199596]You mentioned "Great massage" how about the rest of the session? $210 for a full session? 1 Hour? It's your money and you can do as you please with it. But DAMN!

I know you're somewhat of a new member (two posts I believe) , maybe new to the Colombia scene but for $210K you can get the SAME quality girl for the entire night! Also you would save on the cab rides, and chances are better quality service for a fraction of that price at the different casas and clubs! It has been said time and time again by more senior members that Loutron is a HUGE rip off! You're paying for their rent and building supplies to finish the house (I have never been to the new house, what's the new address. For future reference jajajjaja).

When I was new to the Mede scene I was ALL about this place but then I did my home work, did some exploring, made some friends and the end results was better service, SAME hot chicks, and saved a ton of pasoes. I actually hooked up with a girl (expros / semi-pros) at a club that used to work there. Guess what? When you got them out of that place and price structure you're looking at $80K-$150K. Which is still on the upper end of the Market Value but still WAY cheaper than that RAGGING RIP OFF that is Loutron. Just my two cents and I'm just trying to help![/QUOTE]Many agree. 210 K for a CBJ and sex on the floor? LOL! Does Loutron still not have beds?

Over the last 10 years Loutron has moved 4 or 5 times, each move resulting in a price jump predictably. I used to go there regularly in the early and mid 2000s but the place started to change drastically in 2007. Alot more Americans, higher price increases, less attractive girls, service went downhill. Now I rarely go because comparable girls and same service are available at Centro casas. It's funny that I've seen Loutron girls also working at these Centro casas and at other lower-price establishments.

If you like L but don't want to pay 210K, write your tel# on small pieces of paper if you don't have calling cards and discreetly hand them to the girls that interest you during the presentation. Arrange a longer session at your place at night or on her off-days for less than half Loutron price. At Loutron the girl's cut is only 30.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1199896]I decided to stop at Lindas and see if the higher prices would be justified with prettier girls. Well, it did. I was quoted 100k for an hour. 150k for two hours. However, the house mom, said its early and asked me to wait 10 minutes so she could wake up some girls to introduce. It was around 11:30 am. She continues to explain that at night she has 12 girls.

I returned to Linda's a little after the 10 pm and what do you know, the same girls plus one new one. I hate to talk badly but this new girl I could smell her through her jeans. NOt a good sign. Well. 1 other girl showed up.

Notable mention: No hot water in shower.[/QUOTE]The owner likes to boast she has many girls but in my 9 years I didn't see more than 8 girls and that was during the early 2000s. In the last 5 years.

I did not see more than 5 girls at the casa. Usually 2 or 3 live there while they work. The casa never had hot shower.

I have used William's service on a number of my trips to MDE and I can highly recommend him. He speaks good english, professional and knows a lot about Medellin. No matter what it is you are looking to do he can assist you with it, casas, sight-seeing, translation, shopping, apartments etc. However, William does not provide women, meaning he does not have a list of girls to call, but if you have rtff then you know there are no shortage of those around. William uses a taxi as his mode of transportation, but, it you prefer he states that he has other cars available. The taxi was never a problem for me and I am over 6' tall. A side note, any place you go that requires an entrance fee and / or drink minimum and is not included in the price. This expense is paid by you.

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1200124]@Nclpimp

How much did you pay for the apartment or house you rented.

Has anybody else used "willisbestguidemedellin" services.[/QUOTE]

Thirdcoast.

Filled out web form and got a quick reply.

Asking about what kind of ladies I wanted.

I replied to his E-mail asking about prices for his different services.

But never heard anything anymore.

[QUOTE=Thirdcoast;1200241]I have used William's service on a number of my trips to MDE and I can highly recommend him. He speaks good english, professional and knows a lot about Medellin. No matter what it is you are looking to do he can assist you with it, casas, sight-seeing, translation, shopping, apartments etc. However, William does not provide women, meaning he does not have a list of girls to call, but if you have rtff then you know there are no shortage of those around. William uses a taxi as his mode of transportation, but, it you prefer he states that he has other cars available. The taxi was never a problem for me and I am over 6' tall. A side note, any place you go that requires an entrance fee and / or drink minimum and is not included in the price. This expense is paid by you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; . By the way, I talked to many chicas last night and not one asked me for more than 30K. I did not understand why some of you lately have gotten quote of 50K or more.

Good days gents.

EZ[/QUOTE]I wonder why me, and my friends are quoted 50k by some of the Mayorista girls while everyone else on this board has never heard of such a thing?

You guys have me doubting myself. Could be my crew is seen as suckers while everyone else gets by for the going rate? So my new response to prices is this. No one in this area asks for more than 30K. If they do they are bluffing and will come down to 30K right away.

I hope this will end this talk of pricing in Mayo.

Went to Tantra today. 7 girls. 5K beer. 70K 1/2 hour. 90K one hour. 5 of the 7 were very douable.

BTW Don't look for or PM me for any more info on Mayorista. Clearly I bow to other Mongers knowledge in this area.

It might have been you mentioning it multiple times but I feel like I've read the 50K quote before.

Even if so, as I have said before, that WILL NOT become the standard. Think about the economics of it. How can the Mayo, given its relatively remote location, prosper when 50K+14K for the room makes it the same price or more as any Centro strip joint, plus the cabfare? The girls are simply not as good quality, especially on average, and it aint like the centro is full of Aguila girls (though there are some hotties).

Also, consider the clientele. For every one of us assholes, there are 30 Colombians. You think these dudes are going to come out of pocket for that? Bwahahahahaha. They are more likely to offer Mayo prices to Centro girls that Centro prices to Mayo girls.

Rest assured, that teenage mommy with the disgusting gut somehow packed underneath her two-sizes-too-small shirt will not be charging anyone's cheap ass 50K any lifetime soon. I don't mean to dump on the Mayo too too much, but come on, it's like going to Le Bec Fin and ordering French fries.

@You69Me.

Do not why you have not heard from William about pricing, however, I looked at his website and he has pricing there for various services. Not sure what services you are interested in and if he can provide them. The only thing that I can tell you is that the service he provided me in the past was very good. Just like any other service provider a lawyer, doctor, lawn service company. YMMV.

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1200290]@Thirdcoast.

Filled out "" web form and got a quick reply.

Asking about what kind of ladies I wanted.

I replied to his E-mail asking about prices for his different services.

But never heard anything anymore.[/QUOTE]

I'm coming down tomorrow for my first time. After having just seen several Colombian 10's in Panama, I'm excited to see what Medellin has to offer. I actually had great luck with the agencies in Panama and love the convenience of just calling a girl to your hotel. We encountered a few issues with getting the girls in, and was wondering if that's also the case in Medellin.

I think I'm going to stay at Art Hotel. Anyone know if a girl coming to my room will be an issue?

Any other recommendations, links, girls, etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Heard from a neighbor's son that there were some problems with robberies tonight but early at la mayorista? Anyone with info LMK.

Thanks!

That is strange. William gets back to everyone quickly. I would email him again. I have a secondary email of [email]medellinconciergeservices@gmail.com.[/email] Call him when you get there.

For work, I go to Medellin once a month. He charges me 55,000 airport pick up. The hourly rate I pay is 25,000 per hour minimum 4 hours. Take the day tour to Penol.

[QUOTE=Thirdcoast; 1200434]@You69Me.

Do not why you have not heard from William about pricing, however, I looked at his website and he has pricing there for various services. Not sure what services you are interested in and if he can provide them. The only thing that I can tell you is that the service he provided me in the past was very good. Just like any other service provider a lawyer, doctor, lawn service company. YMMV.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1200663]Heard from a neighbor's son that there were some problems with robberies tonight but early at la mayorista? Anyone with info LMK.

Thanks![/QUOTE]The other afternoon in Mayorista there was a big fight in one of the discos near the casino. A lot of blood so maybe a knife was involved. Two guys were thrown in a car all bloody.

Not as manny police around like on other trips here.

[QUOTE=Jovocop; 1200548]I'm coming down tomorrow for my first time. After having just seen several Colombian 10's in Panama, I'm excited to see what Medellin has to offer. I actually had great luck with the agencies in Panama and love the convenience of just calling a girl to your hotel. We encountered a few issues with getting the girls in, and was wondering if that's also the case in Medellin.

I think I'm going to stay at Art Hotel. Anyone know if a girl coming to my room will be an issue?

Any other recommendations, links, girls, etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Call the hotel and ask their policy is a discreet way that lets them know clearly what you mean.

I can offer some recs, PM me.

JovoCop, eh? Nice to see another ice hockey fan on the boards. My favorite defenseman today is Shea Weber, the dude is a block of ice.

In general a master as myself gives the average pro 6 orgasms a session, I could actually ask them to pay me, but sinse I have at least one one I let them have the money as well as a huge smile for my great work.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1201022]In general a master as myself gives the average pro 6 orgasms a session, I could actually ask them to pay me, but sinse I have at least one one I let them have the money as well as a huge smile for my great work.[/QUOTE]That's amazing El Bacano. Do you PITCH or do you CATCH with them? You know you should change it up and give your ass a rest. I bet their balls must ache from all of those orgasms you give them.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1201022]In general a master as myself gives the average pro 6 orgasms a session, I could actually ask them to pay me, but sinse I have at least one one I let them have the money as well as a huge smile for my great work.[/QUOTE]Wow. Amazing. With your size or energy. You should get paid. I normally give one o two per a session. Envy you. But. Sexo is not to please them. Please myself and get relief.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1200345]It might have been you mentioning it multiple times but I feel like I've read the 50K quote before.

Even if so, as I have said before, that WILL NOT become the standard. Think about the economics of it. How can the Mayo, given its relatively remote location, prosper when 50K+14K for the room makes it the same price or more as any Centro strip joint, plus the cabfare? The girls are simply not as good quality, especially on average, and it aint like the centro is full of Aguila girls (though there are some hotties).

Also, consider the clientele. For every one of us assholes, there are 30 Colombians. You think these dudes are going to come out of pocket for that? Bwahahahahaha. They are more likely to offer Mayo prices to Centro girls that Centro prices to Mayo girls.

Rest assured, that teenage mommy with the disgusting gut somehow packed underneath her two-sizes-too-small shirt will not be charging anyone's cheap ass 50K any lifetime soon. I don't mean to dump on the Mayo too too much, but come on, it's like going to Le Bec Fin and ordering French fries.[/QUOTE]These putas will try to charge whatever price the clueless foreigner will foolishly pay. If they think you're a dumb tourist the putas will double their quotes. It really makes no sense to pay more than 25K (plus 14K for the room) for Mayo street putas because you can get the same uninspiring service from a similar low-quality looking girl at a Centro casa for less and a significantly smaller chance of getting ripped-off.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1200946]I heard all about that Eddie, apparently the robbery was by some chica who charged a noob 37k instead of the usual 30k.

The price police were called but they didn't charge the chica as she apparently let the noob suck her big toe, hence the extra charge.

The noob was on tv later, breathlessly recounting his version of the event, claiming it was the chica's first time and she came 3 or maybe 4 times due to the extraordinary toe sucking abilities demonstrated.[/QUOTE]Hahahahaha, good one señor Palermo.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1200946]I heard all about that Eddie, apparently the robbery was by some chica who charged a noob 37k instead of the usual 30k.

The price police were called but they didn't charge the chica as she apparently let the noob suck her big toe, hence the extra charge.

The noob was on tv later, breathlessly recounting his version of the event, claiming it was the chica's first time and she came 3 or maybe 4 times due to the extraordinary toe sucking abilities demonstrated.[/QUOTE]Hahahahahahaha, well done, I laughed my ass off at that.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1200903]Call the hotel and ask their policy is a discreet way that lets them know clearly what you mean.

I can offer some recs, PM me.

JovoCop, eh? Nice to see another ice hockey fan on the boards. My favorite defenseman today is Shea Weber, the dude is a block of ice.[/QUOTE]Can't seem to see how to do a pm? Perhaps you could email me a few photos / contact info for a few of your faves? I'll do the same. Hound found a super hot one last night and she's coming back with a friend today for a 3way.

[QUOTE=Jovocop;1201168]Can't seem to see how to do a pm? Perhaps you could email me a few photos / contact info for a few of your faves? I'll do the same. Hound found a super hot one last night and she's coming back with a friend today for a 3way.[/QUOTE]That is a dead end proposition, because if you post your email or I post mine, it will get deleted. So how are we going to know each other's address?

Just register fully and get PM privileges. It is worth it.

This afternoon my friend took a girl from the Mayo strip. I liked her looks and when he was done with her he called me into his room. He told her to drop her towel. She then showed me a fine body with a nice landing strip (first one I saw this trip ).

Her price was 25K, but would do a BBBJ for 5K more.

Got her into the room, and she was very good. As we were getting dressed I asked her how she felt about threesomes. Her face broke into a big smile, as she told me she was by sexual. She then writes her number down for me. Of course since it is my last night here I already had a TLN set up with one of my regulars.

It seems every trip this happens where I find a good one on the last night. This really hurt as my only other threesome this trip was more simulation than them diving into the patch with gusto.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1201211]This afternoon my friend took a girl from the Mayo strip. I liked her looks and when he was done with her he called me into his room. He told her to drop her towel. She then showed me a fine body with a nice landing strip (first one I saw this trip ).

Her price was 25K, but would do a BBBJ for 5K more.

Got her into the room, and she was very good. As we were getting dressed I asked her how she felt about threesomes. Her face broke into a big smile, as she told me she was by sexual. She then writes her number down for me. Of course since it is my last night here I already had a TLN set up with one of my regulars.

It seems every trip this happens where I find a good one on the last night. This really hurt as my only other threesome this trip was more simulation than them diving into the patch with gusto.[/QUOTE]I remember last time I was in Medellin we were missing each other but you told me to look for the guy with a beard in Mayorisata. Well I was there one night alone. When I go to La Mayorista alone I never sit at a table alone like a "mark". So I was playing the wall near the fake casino on the corner with the tricks sipping a beer. I saw these three Americanos that I was watching. Well before I could make my introduction I saw the one with the beard (you) sneak away with a girl. Not wanting to expose GoGo unneeded I said" John Gault" as you walked by but you were focused on the task at hand. I then decided to approach the two other Americanos, one short one bulky. I said"Americanos?" but they were in defense mode and just played me off like I was a street hustler. I later pmed you and you said that was you. The funny part was that yall were cool, but when you decided to make your move on that piece of ass your boys looked lost and confused. My point is you can tell who is comfortable in La Mayorist and who is not very easy.

Thanks I will try this E-mail and let you know.

I have 3 weeks for Panama and Medellin.

Any suggestions where to spend most of my time.

[QUOTE=Kajukenbo Boy69; 1200677]That is strange. William gets back to everyone quickly. I would email him again. I have a secondary email of [email]medellinconciergeservices@gmail.com.[/email] Call him when you get there.

For work, I go to Medellin once a month. He charges me 55, 000 airport pick up. The hourly rate I pay is 25, 000 per hour minimum 4 hours. Take the day tour to Penol.[/QUOTE]

I am sure you all have heard the saying,"feed a man a fish and he eats for the day", teach a man to fish and he eats for life". Well, I was taught to fish in July on my first visit to MDE in late July. This was due to some very cool folks on this forum and awesome people in MDE who I return to see. Now, thanks to a great fare from Fort Lauderdale. MDE ($275 RT. Non-stop) I will be putting my pole back in the waters (so to speak) from Oct 27-31st. Big Halloween party planned and so pumped for this 2nd trip to MDE. Still more to learn as you should never stop getting ISG knowledge and who can see or do everything in one trip?

Anybody else going to be down during these dates? I will have two buddies who have not been to MDE and were doing there thing in Honduras the same time I was in MDE in July. PM me if you will be around or to recomend anything. Regards. Dan

[QUOTE=The Navys Fault; 1201427]I am sure you all have heard the saying,"feed a man a fish and he eats for the day", teach a man to fish and he eats for life". Well, I was taught to fish in July on my first visit to MDE in late July. This was due to some very cool folks on this forum and awesome people in MDE who I return to see. Now, thanks to a great fare from Fort Lauderdale. MDE ($275 RT. Non-stop) I will be putting my pole back in the waters (so to speak) from Oct 27-31st. Big Halloween party planned and so pumped for this 2nd trip to MDE. Still more to learn as you should never stop getting ISG knowledge and who can see or do everything in one trip?

Anybody else going to be down during these dates? I will have two buddies who have not been to MDE and were doing there thing in Honduras the same time I was in MDE in July. PM me if you will be around or to recomend anything. Regards. Dan[/QUOTE]Halloween is a great time in Medellin most years but keep in mind that this year it coincides with elections so it is "Ley Seca" which means no booze is allowed to be sold anywhere. Now I know halloween falls on Monday but the party is the weekend before and to my knowledge the whole weekend is supposed to be dry. How many bars or clubs will break the rules I don't know but if I were you I would stock your apartment or hotel room with booze before the weekend.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1201437]Halloween is a great time in Medellin most years but keep in mind that this year it coincides with elections so it is "Ley Seca" which means no booze is allowed to be sold anywhere. Now I know halloween falls on Monday but the party is the weekend before and to my knowledge the whole weekend is supposed to be dry. How many bars or clubs will break the rules I don't know but if I were you I would stock your apartment or hotel room with booze before the weekend.[/QUOTE]Just a follow up on exactly when Ley Seca is.

Election day is October 30. The sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages will be prohibited from 6:00 pm on Saturday, October 29, until 6:00am on Monday, October 31.

Halloween has become one of the biggest adopted holidays in Colombia (they absolutely love it) with HOUSE parties all over the place. I don't particularly like it though because you have no clue whats under all of that makeup LOL!

If it IS LEY SECA, all the Bars and Clubs will be government mandated CLOSED but they still sell alcohol in the supermarkets so its best to do house parties. I like those much better anyways.

A big plus is that the chicas will be looking for things to do that weekend and it will be a lot easier for them to make up their minds to come over. GRANTED that there is no better offer "on the table" for them. These girls whether it be pro or non pro will always take the best option offered to them. So don't take it personally if a girl tells you shes coming over and doesn't show up and you call her cell and get the voice mail.. Happens to everyone all the time. Colombianas are very flaky.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1201460]Halloween has become one of the biggest adopted holidays in Colombia (they absolutely love it) with HOUSE parties all over the place. I don't particularly like it though because you have no clue whats under all of that makeup LOL!

If it IS LEY SECA, all the Bars and Clubs will be government mandated CLOSED but they still sell alcohol in the supermarkets so its best to do house parties. I like those much better anyways.

A big plus is that the chicas will be looking for things to do that weekend and it will be a lot easier for them to make up their minds to come over. GRANTED that there is no better offer "on the table" for them. These girls whether it be pro or non pro will always take the best option offered to them. So don't take it personally if a girl tells you she's coming over and doesn't show up and you call her cell and get the voice mail. Happens to everyone all the time. Colombianas are very flaky.[/QUOTE]See guys, this is why I love ISG. Thanks for the update. We get in on Thur and will rip it up hard Thur / Friday and since we have a 2-story. 3,500 sq ft Penthouse with 5 bedrooms / 5. 5 baths. 2 whirlpools and steamroom (guess who is getting Master Bedroom? Yes, me) and I know it rocks as I stayed there last time. We will have the PARTY at our place! It does suck thought that it is dry town Sat / Sun. Reports / pixs to follow!

[QUOTE=The Navys Fault; 1201427]I am sure you all have heard the saying,"feed a man a fish and he eats for the day", teach a man to fish and he eats for life". Well, I was taught to fish in July on my first visit to MDE in late July. This was due to some very cool folks on this forum and awesome people in MDE who I return to see. Now, thanks to a great fare from Fort Lauderdale. MDE ($275 RT. Non-stop) I will be putting my pole back in the waters (so to speak) from Oct 27-31st. Big Halloween party planned and so pumped for this 2nd trip to MDE. Still more to learn as you should never stop getting ISG knowledge and who can see or do everything in one trip?

Anybody else going to be down during these dates? I will have two buddies who have not been to MDE and were doing there thing in Honduras the same time I was in MDE in July. PM me if you will be around or to recomend anything. Regards. Dan[/QUOTE]There is a good chance I will be down there then. Hit me up via PM. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1201274]I remember last time I was in Medellin we were missing each other but you told me to look for the guy with a beard in Mayorisata. Well I was there one night alone. When I go to La Mayorista alone I never sit at a table alone like a "mark". So I was playing the wall near the fake casino on the corner with the tricks sipping a beer. I saw these three Americanos that I was watching. Well before I could make my introduction I saw the one with the beard (you) sneak away with a girl. Not wanting to expose GoGo unneeded I said" John Gault" as you walked by but you were focused on the task at hand. I then decided to approach the two other Americanos, one short one bulky. I said"Americanos?" but they were in defense mode and just played me off like I was a street hustler. I later pmed you and you said that was you. The funny part was that yall were cool, but when you decided to make your move on that piece of ass your boys looked lost and confused. My point is you can tell who is comfortable in La Mayorist and who is not very easy.[/QUOTE]I think one day we will meet, and I think it will be in Sosua.

It is easy to find a SW, but harder to find good Wingman.

Next time hollar at me. LOL

Trip report.

I am writing this alittle late. Been home about a week now, and still feel the withdrawls. I spent 10 days in Medellin and it wasn't enough. This was the first time in Medellin solo but, I had some amignovias there so wasn't too worried.

Day 1. I checked into my apartment and hit New Life. The line up have mostly 6 and 7's. I saw this one bajita named Sara. Cute with a great smile (and ass). Nice body but, she must of just had implants put in her ass. I had a different shape and was still brused. She did a great session so no real complaints. Later that day called one of my amignovia and rented a hotel room in Laureles banged for hours. Went home about 2am and passed out. Long day. 6 hour flight plus multiple pops. I just passed out.

Day 2. Met a fellow monger at Parque Lleras had some lunch. We went to el centrel and he showed me around. After a while we went to a casa I Athena. Only about 4 chicas. 1 was about a 8 body and a 6 face. Real machanical. After this I went to my apartment to relax until I meet up again with my amigonovia. She told me the 1st day that she knew a friend so we can have a trio but, when I met her she said that her friend could not make it. Instead, she ofter. To go to a swingers club. There we can have a threesome, foursome what ever I wanted. It's called Dreams. Its on Cra 44 No. 26-02. It was a Tuesday so not too many people there. About 5 couples. I had a great time. While I was banging couples were banging and eventually (its easier if you have some alcohol) people started to talk to us. After a little basic conversation the group the condoms went on and I banged 2 chicas. Then I switch partners I banged this guy's chica. This went on until about 2am. I also found out that there are a couple of clubs one in particular call la cama in sabeneta. I was told that this club was really nice but, only open Thurs. Saturday. Went home and passed out.

Day 3. Meet my fellow monger for lunch. Called Demi Moore. Had a great session. She was fun and willing to please. After several hours she left and I meet with another amignovia. Spent time in the apartment banged and then went to parque lleras to eat.

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First night went to Faces Dos around 8:30 pm and the girls were eating dinner of rice and beans provided by the establishment. I saw a relatively fresh 21 year old girl, a little chubby in the waist and hips and crooked teeth, but doable, and plunked down my money. Had to pay 5K more for condom. Nothing exciting about the sex.

Next day I went to Abydos. Says in the phone book it opens at 11 am but when I arrived they said noon. 8 girls were ready at noon and I checked all of them out. I had 21 year old Laura for 65, 000 pesos. She was friendly and smiled more than the other girls. Smaller tities, but firm ass. Did her doggy syle. Abydos is my favorite in MDE.

Few slim girls anymore. Santa fe mall is just as good as new malls in the US and was packed on a Sunday afternoon with all the families coming to look. Dollar is weak at 1780 or so to the peso. Viscaya mall is mostly empty. Tesoro still 90% full of tenants. Alot of siicone titties.

[QUOTE=Happy Neil;1201589]Few slim girls anymore. Santa fe mall is just as good as new malls in the US and was packed on a Sunday afternoon with all the families coming to look. Dollar is weak at 1780 or so to the peso. Viscaya mall is mostly empty. Tesoro still 90% full of tenants. Alot of siicone titties.[/QUOTE]The more POPSY, MARIO BROS, EL CORAL, FRISBY, KOKORIKO and especially Mcdonalds now. You will start to see a gradual upwards swing to the chubbies more and more as the years go on.

Social media on the computer all day, facebook, msn. LESS walking and an ALL starch diet will be the downfall of the slim Colombiana.

Rice, Arepas, Potatoes, Pastas, everyday all day long with tons of soda everyday with every meal including birthday cakes.

I ask my lady friends where the want to go now and everything is Mcdonalds and a Mcflurry.

Thank god we will work most of those calories off in bed while I count the numerous orgasms I give them (at least 5 or 6)

[QUOTE=Happy Neil; 1201588]First night went to Faces Dos around 8:30 pm and the girls were eating dinner of rice and beans provided by the establishment. I saw a relatively fresh 21 year old girl, a little chubby in the waist and hips and crooked teeth, but doable, and plunked down my money. Had to pay 5K more for condom. Nothing exciting about the sex.

Next day I went to Abydos. Says in the phone book it opens at 11 am but when I arrived they said noon. 8 girls were ready at noon and I checked all of them out. I had 21 year old Laura for 65, 000 pesos. She was friendly and smiled more than the other girls. Smaller tities, but firm ass. Did her doggy syle. Abydos is my favorite in MDE.[/QUOTE]Abydos is 120K COP per hour. You pay to the house. Price is fixed and that's what I paid in August. How did you get 65K?

Bandy

[QUOTE=Happy Neil; 1201588]First night went to Faces Dos around 8:30 pm and the girls were eating dinner of rice and beans provided by the establishment. I saw a relatively fresh 21 year old girl, a little chubby in the waist and hips and crooked teeth, but doable, and plunked down my money. Had to pay 5K more for condom. Nothing exciting about the sex.

Next day I went to Abydos. Says in the phone book it opens at 11 am but when I arrived they said noon. 8 girls were ready at noon and I checked all of them out. I had 21 year old Laura for 65, 000 pesos.[/QUOTE]In the past, Fase2 never charged extra for a condom. Best thing to do is to exchange phone numbers and set up an appointment with the girl for a few hours for half Fase2 price at your place after work or on days she does not work.

I don't know if Abydos and Loutron are still owned by the same people, but when they were you'the see Abydos girls working at Loutron, and Loutron girls working at Abydos.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1201598]The more POPSY, MARIO BROS, EL CORAL, FRISBY, KOKORIKO and especially Mcdonalds now. You will start to see a gradual upwards swing to the chubbies more and more as the years go on.

Social media on the computer all day, facebook, msn. LESS walking and an ALL starch diet will be the downfall of the slim Colombiana.

Rice, Arepas, Potatoes, Pastas, everyday all day long with tons of soda everyday with every meal including birthday cakes.

I ask my lady friends where the want to go now and everything is Mcdonalds and a Mcflurry.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Happy Neil;1201589]Few slim girls anymore. Dollar is weak at 1780 or so to the peso. Viscaya mall is mostly empty. Alot of siicone titties.[/QUOTE]Local TV news reported that 70% of Colombianas are overweight. Increasing waistline, less attractive faces, worsening service are some of the reasons I spend less time in Medellin. Speaking of Halloween, the working girls on the streets look like a scene from ¨Night of the Living Dead. ¨ Viscaya has been mostly empty for years

[QUOTE=Bandy; 1201600]Abydos is 120K COP per hour.

Bandy[/QUOTE]Correct. It was about $65 US.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1201598]The more POPSY, MARIO BROS, EL CORAL, FRISBY, KOKORIKO and especially Mcdonalds now. You will start to see a gradual upwards swing to the chubbies more and more as the years go on.

Social media on the computer all day, facebook, msn. LESS walking and an ALL starch diet will be the downfall of the slim Colombiana.

Rice, Arepas, Potatoes, Pastas, everyday all day long with tons of soda everyday with every meal including birthday cakes.

I ask my lady friends where the want to go now and everything is Mcdonalds and a Mcflurry.

Thank god we will work most of those calories off in bed while I count the numerous orgasms I give them (at least 5 or 6) [/QUOTE]In general the least amount of times I have ever given a pro was 6, I try to limit this this because I could be stalked so I never give them my real name, El BaD ASS Bacano is roaming Medellin in November, I hope to see a few Members there, I ask all members to quit taking the girls to McDs, Please feed them healthier vegetables and fruits, Its bad enough we have a gringo influx we need to keep the girls thin,

Why are you pretending as though you're talking to a bunch of virgins that don't understand how sex, p4p and orgasms work?

Even if you claims are true (*stifles snickering*) do you think anyone here cares or gives a fuck? Would you like to be congratulated? I also notice your posts are completely devoid of useful information, presumably because your superior skills in bed have caused all these prepagos to retire and spend their days in starvation and despondence as they pine for the return of their Bacano.

Try [email]willisbestsupport@gmail.com.[/email]

Willi is marketing & getting tech help.

He sends me emails from both accounts. They both work for me. Call him and ask him to take you to the hole in the wall places

That are off the grid. How he knows these places I will never know but I could never find them by myself. He took me to eat

At these restaurant dives off the grid too but let me tell you best chicken and seafood I have ever eaten in my life. Cheap too.

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1201373]The answer from this E-mail <[email]medellinconciergeservices@gmail.com[/email] Was.

Why I sent my inquiry here. Strange.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1201277]Thanks I will try this E-mail and let you know.

I have 3 weeks for Panama and Medellin.

Any suggestions where to spend most of my time.[/QUOTE]William has been known to rip off some patrons and treating some of the girls badly. You don't want to get mixed up with him or his bad reputation. He would be blacklisted here but no one on this forum is that slow to hire a guide taxi driver. It's just asking for trouble.

The newbies that read the colombian forum for a week, with all the maps and lists and prices and chatter, figure out everything they need to know, they get to Colombia and hit the ground running.

The conversation you "guys" are having with yourself with your 3 newbie handles isn't fooling anyone.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1201843]Why are you pretending as though you're talking to a bunch of virgins that don't understand how sex, p4p and orgasms work?

Even if you claims are true (*stifles snickering*) do you think anyone here cares or gives a fuck? Would you like to be congratulated? I also notice your posts are completely devoid of useful information, presumably because your superior skills in bed have caused all these prepagos to retire and spend their days in starvation and despondence as they pine for the return of their Bacano.[/QUOTE]If you read this forum you will see the sarcasm in the "I gave her 10 orgasms" post that have been running on here for over a year.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1200946]I heard all about that Eddie, apparently the robbery was by some chica who charged a noob 37k instead of the usual 30k.

The price police were called but they didn't charge the chica as she apparently let the noob suck her big toe, hence the extra charge.

The noob was on tv later, breathlessly recounting his version of the event, claiming it was the chica's first time and she came 3 or maybe 4 times due to the extraordinary toe sucking abilities demonstrated.[/QUOTE]Story update: Said chica had that toe surgically removed, bronzed and hung on the mantle so as to always remember that most incredible gringo orgasm experience.

Although the chica is still on the circuit it is still her first time since she can remember no other sexual encounter before or after that 4 orgasm gringo toe sucking.

Her Going price today after Toe-ectomy? : still 30K + 10K extra to now let clients suck the famous nub.

I flew home early Wednesday morning, Sept. 28, 2011 with a flu. I think I caught it the day earlier in El Centro while walking and window shopping with novia and just got over it today, Saturday, Oct. 01, 2011, having recovered completely. I totally put the blame on way too much rain in MDE and the difference in climate between it and So. California. Back to the trip. I purposely stayed in Mayo the whole week and so the experience was somewhat a little different than previous trips. I did not spend a lot of time with novia and mainly concentrated on the action in Mayo.

1. I met a few mongers, wingmen, and an ISG member who happened to stay at the same hotel like I did, and a few days later another ISG member in front of hotel cielo azul. It was very interesting to observe other non-local mongers in action in Mayo if you ever had a chance. Because YMMV. We all had different tastes in chicas, and hence, no two mongers are alike. I enjoyed meeting these gentlemen.

2. Picked up a new chica practically just getting off the bus from Bogota named Sara and she said she was 19 and looked 19 or older, on the last night of my trip, Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011. I was too drunk to check her cedula, which I should have, because later in the night, another monger told me she was only 15. Who do you believe especially when under the influence? LOL. Anyway she had a nice attitude I gave her a 9, face 7, body 7, overall 7 maybe because she was new to the business, and said she came to MDE to live with mama and her baby, was born in Bogota. She almost had 'an orgasm', jumped up and down the minute I OFFERED her 30K and 'vamos', was very happy with the money. But I could not bring myself to a happy ending no matter how hard she sucked my dick so I let her go after a little over 30 mins. I usually do not repeat, but for this one, I definitely will if I ever see her again in Mayo on my next trip.

3. Price was the same as in the past even though there was a chica named Valeria from Bello who quoted me 50K on Friday night, Sept. 23, 2011. She was the first to do so to me but I firmly stood my ground at 30K and she finally settled for that. Overall 8, face 7, great attitude, above average paisa look, body 8, boobs 34C, nice long black hair. Even having said so, I did not repeat with her on subsequent encounters on the strip although every time she saw me, she asked me to 'vamos' with her.

There were so many more things I wanted to report but that was it for now gentlemen.

Good days

EZ

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1202282]2. Picked up a new chica practically just getting off the bus from Bogota named Sara and she said she was 19 and looked 19 or older, on the last night of my trip, Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011. I was too drunk to check her cedula, which I should have, because later in the night, another monger told me she was only 15. Who do you believe especially when under the influence? LOL.

EZ[/QUOTE]Already get enough hate, negativity and unwanted attention towards websites like this one! Its stupid shit like this like this that doesn't help our cause and shines an already negative spotlight on the hobby as it is. Playing stupid, ignorance or inebriation is no excuse. If you're not sure of the age, better move along, get full proof of cedula or better yet in your case, keep it to yourself.

Everytime I come to Medellin, I catch cold / flu while the temparature in Medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. But it gets chilly significantly in the night in Medellin. Plus, it is rainning all the time. I suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the USA Though I have flu shots before going to Medellin, they do not seem to be working. Plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in Medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. I would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo;1202282]I flew home early Wednesday morning, Sept. 28, 2011 with a flu. I think I caught it the day earlier in El Centro while walking and window shopping with novia and just got over it today, Saturday, Oct. 01, 2011, having recovered completely. I totally put the blame on way too much rain in MDE and the difference in climate between it and So. EZ[/QUOTE]

Yea, this kind of stuff is no Joke! I don't know why anyone would think that is funny regardless of if your drunk or not. You can get in serious trouble with that kind of behavior regardless. I have had girls come up to me and the few people who know me, have seen me smashed and I always want to have the cedula checked no matter how fucked up I am.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1202288]Already get enough hate, negativity and unwanted attention towards websites like this one! Its stupid shit like this like this that doesn't help our cause and shines an already negative spotlight on the hobby as it is. Playing stupid, ignorance or inebriation is no excuse. If you're not sure of the age, better move along, get full proof of cedula or better yet in your case, keep it to yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1202306]Everytime I come to Medellin, I catch cold / flu while the temparature in Medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. But it gets chilly significantly in the night in Medellin. Plus, it is rainning all the time. I suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the USA Though I have flu shots before going to Medellin, they do not seem to be working. Plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in Medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. I would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I am totally with you. If I don't get sick it is the exception not the norm. There is nothing to do about it unless you are willing to not do DATY or DFK. Then why pay thousands of dollars to travel? Even then just being on an airplane or around new germs will increase your chances of getting sick by 100. A good trip for me is when I get sick afterwards not during and certainly not before.

This is an ongoing saga with me that I accept as an international traveler. What blows is when you only have a one week trip and you get sick. Luckily I do long trips so the occasional two weeks of being sick doesn't ruin everything for me.

Bring a multi vitamin with an extra B complex supplement and stay someplace where you can *sleep. Do not cheap out on lodging when sleep deprivation might be an issue. Do bring enough warm sleeping clothes. I can't stress this enough. You will never have enough blankets. Your sleep clothes are your blankets. A hooded sweatshirt is vital.

It's rough. I have suffered dearly with colds / flu's while traveling.

[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1202225]William has been known to rip off some patrons and treating some of the girls badly. You don't want to get mixed up with him or his bad reputation. He would be blacklisted here but no one on this forum is that slow to hire a guide taxi driver. It's just asking for trouble.

The newbies that read the colombian forum for a week, with all the maps and lists and prices and chatter, figure out everything they need to know, they get to Colombia and hit the ground running.

The conversation you "guys" are having with yourself with your 3 newbie handles isn't fooling anyone.[/QUOTE]Guys. Please clue me in. I've contacted this guy Willy and arranged for a taxi ride from the airport in NOVEMBER. Is this a big mistake. I was also thinking of asking HIM to drive over to Poblado and look at some apts?

[quote=ezyngo; 1202282]tastes in chicas, and hence, no two mongers are alike. i enjoyed meeting these gentlemen.

i was too drunk to check her cedula, which i should have, because later in the night, another monger told me she was only 15. who do you believe especially when under the influence? i usually do not repeat, but for this one, i definitely will if i ever see her again in mayo on my next trip.

ez[/quote]i don't know if admin has seen this, but this is illegal. as far as i know, posting about **** activity is not allowed on his site. besides, it is just plain wrong for an older man to sleep with a 15 year old. i don't care if colombian men do it, that does not make it right or ok. i have a teenage daughter, and i am telling you this is just a very wrong thing to do. there are plenty of of beautiful women in colombia over 18 and absolutely no reason for this to occur with a minor. making a mistake one time is one thing, but repeating it would make you a sick fuck.

as far as i read his post, another monger told him that she was only 15 "after" the sex, but nobody knows. i am sure he will check her cedula next time.

[quote=estebanh;1202332]i don't know if admin has seen this, but this is illegal. as far as i know, posting about **** activity is not allowed on his site. besides, it is just plain wrong for an older man to sleep with a 15 year old. i don't care if colombian men do it, that does not make it right or ok. i have a teenage daughter, and i am telling you this is just a very wrong thing to do. there are plenty of of beautiful women in colombia over 18 and absolutely no reason for this to occur with a minor. making a mistake one time is one thing, but repeating it would make you a sick fuck.[/quote]

[quote=matt psyche;1202334]as far as i read his post, another monger told him that she was only 15 "after" the sex, but nobody knows. i am sure he will check her cedula next time.[/quote]i met this fellow, and i saw him dealing with the normal mayo girls. i think he made a mistake in not checking her i'd, but that said he seemed to me a man who really enjoyed the p4p action, and he seemed to be a happy camper, and i think will be more careful in the future.

it is very easy to judge from our easy chairs at home while others are toiling in the trenches.

one other thing should be brought out here. if a person is foolish enough to be with an **** person they should not post about it. not good for the hobby or the poster.

on another note. i too caught a bug while enduring the mde constant rain, and i thought i was over it, but still the cough presists.

next trip will be in a place where it does not rain everyday. sure i love the mde ladys, but my health is more important than a roll in the hay.

Get Z Pack from your doctor. Never leave home without it.

One Year I spent three months in Buenos Aires.

The Gripp as they call it, something like the flu was going around. Especially doing DFKing all the time. I had the bug for almost a month and a half. I tried all kinds of Meds there, saw the doctor a few times, but could not shake it. Until I got home, saw my doctor and took the Z Pack he recommended. It was Gone it in few days.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1202306]Everytime I come to Medellin, I catch cold / flu while the temparature in Medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. But it gets chilly significantly in the night in Medellin. Plus, it is rainning all the time. I suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the USA Though I have flu shots before going to Medellin, they do not seem to be working. Plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in Medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. I would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in Medellin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1202493]Get Z Pack from your doctor. Never leave home without it.

One Year I spent three months in Buenos Aires.

The Gripp as they call it, something like the flu was going around. Especially doing DFKing all the time. I had the bug for almost a month and a half. I tried all kinds of Meds there, saw the doctor a few times, but could not shake it. Until I got home, saw my doctor and took the Z Pack he recommended. It was Gone it in few days.[/QUOTE]WT,

What is the Z pack and where do you find it online? Includes zinc I assume?

i think the "z pack" he's referring to is azithromycin, a pretty strong antibiotic used to treat respiratory infections and stds. i'm another one that always seems to catch something when i travel to latin america. the smog making your insides raw, the constant exposure to chica fluids, the foreign foods, and alcohol weakening your immune system all combine to create the perfect host to a viral infection.

in fact, i just got back from mde and guess what? i'm sick with a really bad cold. this trip i tried spraying my mouth throat and nasal tract with zicam throughout the trip and especially when i got on my flights but it didn't help one bit. i even downed a couple emergen-c packets when i was there too. because i knew i was prone to getting something. happens every time.

the only thing i've experienced that has effectively fought a virus is tamiflu. a while ago, i had to stay home with my son for a week when he had influenza a and i thought for sure i was going to get it bad. but his ped gave me sample packs of tamiflu tablets to take as a prophylaxis and i got through the ordeal completely unrep001hed.

i think i might look for tamiflu tablets at the farmacia the next time i'm there. can't remember the generic name.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1202498]WT,

What is the Z pack and where do you find it online? Includes zinc I assume?[/QUOTE]The Z-Pack is good stuff! It is a strong prescription antiboitic pill that is taken for a shorter period of time. It is known as Zithromax. I think the proper name is Azithromycin.

The way it was prescribed to me is to take 2 pills the first day as one dose and one pill everyday afterwards. A total of 6 pills.

I just noticed I have one refill left. Need to go get it.

If Z pack is an antibiotic then I have mixed feelings about it. Uber mongering with antibiotics just to get a sexual release doesn't appeal to me. It reminds me of a junkie shooting up in their eyelid. PARTY!

I tend to get really bad throat infections with white spots. At first glance you would say it's strep throat but the only way to tell is by having a throat culture done. I recently found out that the white spots are an immune response to your environment. Silly me because I thought for sure I had strep since I couldn't swallow well. My doctor told me there is a point when you just take ciproflaxin regardless as long as you don't have side effects from it."It can't hurt" is what he says. Cipro is to combat bacteria not a virus. What I don't quite understand is at what point does a virus involve bacteria or does it? Ridding your body of bad bacteria will increase your chances of getting better soon right?

It's nice to know that I am not alone with this issue. I did too many drugs in my youth. I'd rather not get into Z if I don't have to. I am concerned that some day I might need these antibiotics and they may not work on me.

Any doctors in the house?

[blue]greetings everyone,[/blue]

[quote=ezyngo;1202282]...later in the night, another monger told me she was only 15.[/quote][blue]i am not one to defend the actions of ****s, but in ezyngo's report the chick claimed that she was 19, and it appears that ezyngo thought she was 19, and the only "evidence" to the contrary was an unidentified third party who later offered an apparently entirely subjective opinion, to with: "[i]another monger told me she was only 15[/i]".[/blue]

[quote=estebanh;1202332]i don't know if admin has seen this, but this is illegal. as far as i know, posting about **** activity is not allowed on his site.[/quote][blue]you are correct, discussing **** activity is not permitted and will usually result in an immediate ban from this site. however, some forbearance should be exercised in that i also do not permit discussions about transvestites, transsexuals or she-males, but i don't ban otherwise acceptable reports wherein the author relayed an incident in which he inadvertently experienced an encounter with a tv, ts, etc.

thanks,

jackson[/blue]

since antibiotic is for bacterial, rather viral, infections, i do not think that it is effective for cold. tamiflu, which is antiviral drug, should be effective. i had an antiviral shot at a paharmacy in medellin. it made me feel better only for one day, and the next day i felt sick again.

[quote=el bombero; 1202514]i think the "z pack" he's referring to is azithromycin, a pretty strong antibiotic used to treat respiratory infections drugand stds. i'm another one that always seems to catch something when i travel to latin america. the smog making your insides raw, the constant exposure to chica fluids, the foreign foods, and alcohol weakening your immune system all combine to create the perfect host to a viral infection.

in fact, i just got back from mde and guess what? i'm sick with a really bad cold. this trip i tried spraying my mouth throat and nasal tract with zicam throughout the trip and especially when i got on my flights but it didn't help one bit. i even downed a couple emergen-c packets when i was there too. because i knew i was prone to getting something. happens every time.

the only thing i've experienced that has effectively fought a virus is tamiflu. a while ago, i had to stay home with my son for a week when he had influenza a and i thought for sure i was going to get it bad. but his ped gave me sample packs of tamiflu tablets to take as a prophylaxis and i got through the ordeal completely unrep001hed.

i think i might look for tamiflu tablets at the farmacia the next time i'm there. can't remember the generic name.[/quote]

Admin involvement did a tremendous job of clearing up some clouds. Some afterthoughts.

1. Except for a few, many of you completely and undoubtedly lack the 'critical thinking' skills and so quickly and prematurely jumped the gun and foolishly believed everything when a poster shared his report. When a Mayo chica told you her name was Carolina, did you believe right away that was really her name? How many times did you see a Mayo chica and believe she was old enough and then go ahead and bang her? You could be wrong right there.

2. One monger responded ' I have a teenage daughter, and I am telling you this is just a very wrong thing to do'. My immediate thought is I hope it is going to stay this way.

3. Now, Peace.

EZ

There are fake IDs all over MDE and the DR. Unfortunately the responsibility lies on the monger. If you like cute spinner types this is something you will need to confront.

If a chica shows you a black and white ID it is usually a copy. If I remember correctly a Colombia ID has some color in it. Can anyone verify this? This might save someone a heap of trouble.

[quote=ezyngo; 1202282]2. she said she was 19 and looked 19 or older. i was too drunk to check her cedula, which i should have. another monger told me she was only 15. i definitely will if i ever see her again in mayo on my next trip.

ez[/quote]ok. last comment on this. i promise. this is what was entirely missed on the post and what bothered me most: if someone tells you, right or wrong that a girl is ****, what are you going to do? take the high road and stay away. don't even go there.

i am sure enzygo is a good guy, but i (and likely most of the other readers) want to stay as far away from this crap as possible.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1202567]There are fake IDs all over MDE and the DR. Unfortunately the responsibility lies on the monger. If you like cute spinner types this is something you will need to confront.

If a chica shows you a black and white I'd it is usually a copy. If I remember correctly a Colombia I'd has some color in it. Can anyone verify this? This might save someone a heap of trouble.[/QUOTE]Correct.

Actually, as a matter of fact, most girls working in venues such as LDV in CTG are doing so on a fake ID card. I don't know whether or not the same goes for street walkers tho, but still.

Fake IDs are a very common occurrence in Colombia.

Bless

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1202457]Also being warm has nothing to do with getting sick. Even a cold is a virus and if you are too weak to fight it off you'll get sick regardless of your hoody! Jeeze. No wonder you have to travel around the world for ass when there is probably some on your block. I don't live on a block but rather an estate of 62 acres and I get laid daily. In fact I just had a girl 5 minutes ago storm out of my room telling me to get off my computer. She is blonde and really hot. Thank god I wasn't born a tool![/QUOTE]True cold weather will not make you sick, but keeping warm is vital if you do catch either a flu or a cold, so the weather does have an effect on your recovery. Very hard to stay in your room when the action is out in the cold damp air.

So you live on an estate of 62 acres and get laid daily. That is very nice for you.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1202652]True cold weather will not make you sick, but keeping warm is vital if you do catch either a flu or a cold, so the weather does have an effect on your recovery. Very hard to stay in your room when the action is out in the cold damp air.

So you live on an estate of 62 acres and get laid daily. That is very nice for you.[/QUOTE]As far as this tool, el bacano, people like this. Besides the "who gives a fucking shit" we already know they are trolls so "no le pares bolas" "don't pay them any attention" they get a rise out of peoples responses and reactions to there useless sensationalism and diatribes. People on this site know very clearly what they are doing more than they claim or give them credit to.

As far as FAKE CEDULAS. I've never seen one personally there but my homeboy on MSN just told me you can get one but the good quality ones are very expensive Million plus and the cheapies with NO WATERMARK or holograms are 200k. (look for holograms and watermarks)

What I have seen is the "loaning out" of a cedulas. Whether the one in your chicas possession is stolen or borrowed from another girl.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1202652]True cold weather will not make you sick, but keeping warm is vital if you do catch either a flu or a cold, so the weather does have an effect on your recovery. Very hard to stay in your room when the action is out in the cold damp air.

So you live on an estate of 62 acres and get laid daily. That is very nice for you.[/QUOTE]Don't forget that he would take his time, to think about writing a post, when he has a hot blonde is his room storming out. Talking about having fucked up priorities.

Below are excerpts from a good article at abc's website:

[quote]The cold is actually more than 200 different viruses, which is why it's hard to find a vaccine that can target all of them. With a virus called T39, which accounting for 40 percent of all colds.

You can expect up to 200 colds in your lifetime, spending as much as five years in bed.

Once exposed, a person is forever immune to it. That likely explains why children get more colds than adults.

Vacations can actually induce a cold in a phenomenon known as "leisure sickness'.

People with diverse social networks get fewer colds than those with a small circle.

Boosting the immune system can make the cold symptoms more severe, rather than shortening or preventing the life of the virus.[/quote]I recommend reading the whole article:

[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ColdFlu/author-book-ah-choo-infects-common-cold-test/story?id=12131044[/url]

What seems to work for me whether I'm traveling or not is Zicam cold remedy oral mist,

Don't make the mistake of getting Zicam's other products like Zicam congestion relief or Zicam sinus relief, those are for when you have a full blown cold.

Time is very critical: if you use it at the first sign of a cold, you can minimize the symptoms a lot. The longer you wait, the less effective it is.

Last year I had the bad luck of catching a cold right before leaving for MDE. Other than a little cough in the morning, I was fine & mostly forgot I was battling a cold.

Once over the cold, do a quick sprits once a week, as a form of 'prevention', you never know when you pick something up until it's too late. Also, the nozzle gets clogged up if you don't use it after a while & the top doesn't come off. It's not that expensive but what if you want to use it & you're someplace where they never heard of it.

If you wait too long & get a full blown cold, may I suggest a Hot Tottie: some hot tea, a little honey and / or lemon & your favorite liquor, sweet stuff like Southern Comfort or blackberry brandy seems to go down nicer.

After a few of those you'll still have a cold but you won't give a shit, really.

(Almost makes you look forward to your next cold. Almost).

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1202306]Everytime I come to Medellin, I catch cold / flu while the temparature in Medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. But it gets chilly significantly in the night in Medellin. Plus, it is rainning all the time. I suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the USA Though I have flu shots before going to Medellin, they do not seem to be working. Plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in Medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. I would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in Medellin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1202567]There are fake IDs all over MDE and the DR. Unfortunately the responsibility lies on the monger. If you like cute spinner types this is something you will need to confront.

If a chica shows you a black and white I'd it is usually a copy. If I remember correctly a Colombia I'd has some color in it. Can anyone verify this? This might save someone a heap of trouble.[/QUOTE]A new Colombian Cedula (from Jan 2010) look like this:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]158741[/ATTACH]

[QUOTE=Maverick77; 1202693]A new Colombian Cedula (from Jan 2010) look like this:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]158741[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Excellent post.

Thank You

Looking through my Fb contacts and put 2 & 2 together. It's her- LOL.

Her name's "Geraldine", right?

Not to worry.

You only take it when you need it. When you are sick.

The time I got really sick, I had changed my flight so many times leaving B. A. I had to go home through Rio. That would have been great, but I was so sick and dizzy I could barely leave the hotel for the three days I was there.

I wish I had the Z Pac then.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1202525]If Z pack is an antibiotic then I have mixed feelings about it. Uber mongering with antibiotics just to get a sexual release doesn't appeal to me. It reminds me of a junkie shooting up in their eyelid. PARTY!

I tend to get really bad throat infections with white spots. At first glance you would say it's strep throat but the only way to tell is by having a throat culture done. I recently found out that the white spots are an immune response to your environment. Silly me because I thought for sure I had strep since I couldn't swallow well. My doctor told me there is a point when you just take ciproflaxin regardless as long as you don't have side effects from it."It can't hurt" is what he says. Cipro is to combat bacteria not a virus. What I don't quite understand is at what point does a virus involve bacteria or does it? Ridding your body of bad bacteria will increase your chances of getting better soon right?

It's nice to know that I am not alone with this issue. I did too many drugs in my youth. I'd rather not get into Z if I don't have to. I am concerned that some day I might need these antibiotics and they may not work on me.

Any doctors in the house?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1202282]2. She jumped up and down the minute I OFFERED her 30K and 'vamos', was very happy with the money. But I could not bring myself to a happy ending no matter how hard she sucked my dick so I let her go after a little over 30 mins. I usually do not repeat, but for this one, I definitely will if I ever see her again in Mayo on my next trip.

3. Price was the same as in the past even though there was a chica named Valeria from Bello who quoted me 50K on Friday night, Sept. 23, 2011. She was the first to do so to me but I firmly stood my ground at 30K and she finally settled for that. Even having said so, I did not repeat with her on subsequent encounters on the strip although every time she saw me, she asked me to 'vamos' with her.[/QUOTE]The local price for Mayorista girls is 20K, that's what the Colombianos and experienced punters pay. I was in Mayorista for a weekend last month and paid 20K. The only girl I selected was a ¨6¨ but by far the best looking girl during my 3 days (Thurs-Saturday) at Mayo. Not to my surprise she was a dead fish in the room. She just laid there, watching TV, cleaning her fingernails, counting down the minutes. Her vagina stank bad and she claimed she does not suck pija, not even a CBJ. After it was over, she did not wash or shower, and begged for a tip. How things have changed!

Of the 40 girls in Mayo. 8 out of 10 were fat. Half of them were the same old faces from 4 years ago plus 20 lbs heavier and uglier. Five years ago the price was 15K and they're were 3 times as many girls than now. Today some of the girls will charge 10K more for a CBJ, to remove her top clothing or bra, to suck her tits, etc. Some girls will lie that the standard time is 15 minutes for a session. They'll throw every trick in the book to scam you to pay more. The good ol' days are over. I won't be returning to Mayo.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone; 1202704]Looking through my Fb contacts and put 2 & 2 together. It's her- LOL.

Her name's "Geraldine", right?[/QUOTE]What is her last name? I have a few Geraldines.

Staying in Mayorista Wednesday through Monday. Have been before but my buddy had to cancel at the last minute. So just wanted to know if anyone wants to hang. Fase Dos or just Mayorista strip. Not a big fan of the Cass. Had a fantastic time on my last trip. Possibly have a room at a nice apartment for no charge.

Can we just agree that the Mayo is a goddamn shithole and move on? Even three years ago, it fucking sucked, now it's got to be the most worthless place for mongering in the city if not the country.

Yes, the girls are ugly, yes, their hygiene is terrible, no, you're not actually saving any money, no, it's not especially fun to be around a bunch of real drunk ass dudes with blaring awful music. Does any of this sound remotely appealing to anyone? Really it's a wonder than any tourist would go there. Leave the stinky pussy in the obscure location for the locals, if you're going to pay, pay for quality. That's my main gripe, really, it's not that people are traveling or paying or not haggling. I am not going to ask someone to sacrifice his good time over $5 USD by creating tension and dwelling on price. Instead, I'd urge people to be more selective about who they take and what they put up with. Upsells, poor hygiene, bad service. Punish these things with your wallet, vote with your dollar and raise the standards of service for fuck's sake (literally!).

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1202845]What is her last name? I have a few Geraldines.[/QUOTE]If she's friends with Boyd, Greg and has pictures of herself taken@the mansion- well, it's probably her! LOL

[quote=admin; 1202531][blue]greetings everyone, [/blue]

[blue]i am not one to defend the actions of ****s, but in ezyngo's report the chick claimed that she was 19, and it appears that ezyngo thought she was 19, and the only "evidence" to the contrary was an unidentified third party who later offered an apparently entirely subjective opinion, to with: "[i]another monger told me she was only 15[/i]". [/blue]

[blue]you are correct, discussing **** activity is not permitted and will usually result in an immediate ban from this site. however, some forbearance should be exercised in that i also do not permit discussions about transvestites, transsexuals or she-males, but i don't ban otherwise acceptable reports wherein the author relayed an incident in which he inadvertently experienced an encounter with a tv, ts, etc.

thanks,

jackson[/blue][/quote]good example of why jackson runs a terrific board. good standards with an understanding of why some issues should be discussed. in addition, i had a technical problem today and he fixed it very quickly. thanks for all of the effort and an excellent website jackson.

now the only question is whether he will censor this post.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI[/url]

Very nice

I will be in Medellin on Wednesday, October 5 thru Monday, October 11. I am staying in Mayorista and may have a free room available. I don't like the Cass but love Case Dos and the Mayorista strip. My buddy had to cancel and it would be nice to have a win man.

I am arriving in Medellin on October 5 and leaving on October 10. I am staying in Mayorista and my buddy was supposed to come and he had to cancel. So there is a free room available to a wingman. I do not like the ccasas but love Fase Dos and the Mayorista Strip.

[QUOTE=Cm6363; 1202944]Good example of why Jackson runs a terrific board. Good standards with an understanding of why some issues should be discussed. In addition, I had a technical problem today and he fixed it very quickly. Thanks for all of the effort and an excellent website Jackson.

Now the only question is whether he will censor this post.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I think the situation was handled very well.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1202935]Can we just agree that the Mayo is a goddamn shithole and move on? Even three years ago, it fucking sucked, now it's got to be the most worthless place for mongering in the city if not the country.

Yes, the girls are ugly, yes, their hygiene is terrible, no, you're not actually saving any money, no, it's not especially fun to be around a bunch of real drunk ass dudes with blaring awful music. Does any of this sound remotely appealing to anyone? Really it's a wonder than any tourist would go there. Leave the stinky pussy in the obscure location for the locals, if you're going to pay, pay for quality. That's my main gripe, really, it's not that people are traveling or paying or not haggling. I am not going to ask someone to sacrifice his good time over $5 USD by creating tension and dwelling on price. Instead, I'd urge people to be more selective about who they take and what they put up with. Upsells, poor hygiene, bad service. Punish these things with your wallet, vote with your dollar and raise the standards of service for fuck's sake (literally!).[/QUOTE]I second your motion!

[QUOTE=Arjay;1203092]I second your motion![/QUOTE]Amen brother, I've been saying that all along.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp; 1202952][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI[/url]

Very nice[/QUOTE]@the 5:15 and also the 5:55 mark- wow! Very nice

I was reading somewhere that this new member TODASIN is looking for a wingman. oh I forgot.. bless and Only good energy!

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1202935]Can we just agree that the Mayo is a goddamn shithole and move on? Even three years ago, it fucking sucked, now it's got to be the most worthless place for mongering in the city if not the country.

Yes, the girls are ugly, yes, their hygiene is terrible, no, you're not actually saving any money, no, it's not especially fun to be around a bunch of real drunk ass dudes with blaring awful music. Does any of this sound remotely appealing to anyone? Really it's a wonder than any tourist would go there. Leave the stinky pussy in the obscure location for the locals, if you're going to pay, pay for quality. That's my main gripe, really, it's not that people are traveling or paying or not haggling. I am not going to ask someone to sacrifice his good time over $5 USD by creating tension and dwelling on price. Instead, I'd urge people to be more selective about who they take and what they put up with. Upsells, poor hygiene, bad service. Punish these things with your wallet, vote with your dollar and raise the standards of service for fuck's sake (literally!).[/QUOTE]How about we agree to provide good factual information and impressions on about our own experiences, and not provide sweeping generalizations that seeks to stop dialogue and the providing information?

I like a night or two per trip to La Mayorista. It is not a place to go if you don't have good interviewing skills / instincts, and not speak the language well enough to be able to figure how what a chica is about (with the exception of John Gault, who has the area nailed).

Centro Clubs, High end clubs, MPs, freelancers, the Mansion- all part of a great overall scene. Provide good info and let guys make their own decisions.

[QUOTE=Psychman; 1203193]How about we agree to provide good factual information and impressions on about our own experiences, and not provide sweeping generalizations that seeks to stop dialogue and the providing information?

I like a night or two per trip to La Mayorista. It is not a place to go if you don't have good interviewing skills / instincts, and not speak the language well enough to be able to figure how what a chica is about (with the exception of John Gault, who has the area nailed).

Centro Clubs, High end clubs, MPs, freelancers, the Mansion- all part of a great overall scene. Provide good info and let guys make their own decisions.[/QUOTE]OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.

Hey guys has someone tried this girl?

[url]http://www.lindasvip.com/camila-prepagos-young-escort-masajistas-paisas-jovencitas-medellin-el-poblado-colombia.html[/url]

Let me know.

Although partially correct, as with most generalizations, I can't say I agree 100.

I've stayed for one or two weeks near La Mayorista for the last 3-4 years and yes, sometimes the only girls out there look like most of the cows that populate the street scene in Tijuana (what the hell is in the water there, tacos?).

Sometimes, there are these little gems looking for quick pesos that have only heard of La Mayorista & I try to be there before they hear about CB, F2, Loutron's, etc.

If I'm not mistaken, I read the Demi Moore look-alike was spotted at La Mayo AFTER spending time at CB1.

I stop by for a drink or two there as well as Av. De Grieff (#'s 6 & 1 respectively, in 'steeet action', World Travel 69's list) to & from the casas during the day & on to F2 at night.

IMHO, La Mayo is still worth visiting on occasion, especially if you're staying nearby.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1202935]Can we just agree that the Mayo is a goddamn shithole and move on? Even three years ago, it fucking sucked, now it's got to be the most worthless place for mongering in the city if not the country.

Yes, the girls are ugly, yes, their hygiene is terrible, no, you're not actually saving any money, no, it's not especially fun to be around a bunch of real drunk ass dudes with blaring awful music. Does any of this sound remotely appealing to anyone? Really it's a wonder than any tourist would go there. Leave the stinky pussy in the obscure location for the locals, if you're going to pay, pay for quality. That's my main gripe, really, it's not that people are traveling or paying or not haggling. I am not going to ask someone to sacrifice his good time over $5 USD by creating tension and dwelling on price. Instead, I'd urge people to be more selective about who they take and what they put up with. Upsells, poor hygiene, bad service. Punish these things with your wallet, vote with your dollar and raise the standards of service for fuck's sake (literally!).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1203224]OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.[/QUOTE]Got to love your tone- do you try or does that come naturally? Would love to hear what your Spanish really sounds like. Can't wait to hear your response!

I don't love La Mayorista, but it is a fun change of pace. I don't use the short term hotels, but have found several girls for TLN- each gladly accepted 100K. Three were totally GFE / PSE mix. One was indeed too high and far too much of a partier- sex was average at best.

I also do prefer the MPs, and really have enjoyed amazing sessions in MDE in MPs, and with MP chicas in apartements or hotels.

Some people like to hang in areas outside Poblado- some do not. I don't begrudge anyone their style. Perhaps you are too good to have a bowl of Sancocho or Bandeja in one of the eateries along the drag in La Mayorista; perhaps it is too much of a garbage dump for you. Too each his own. All I know is that I have had some great times in similar places throughout Latin America, just as I have had great times in places like Poblado.

La Majorista can be a bit unsafe at times, so guys want to watch their asses. I do suggest safely checking it out, as with El Centro Strip clubs, MPs around town, High end Strip Clubs, CB 1 and CB2. Enjoy it all.

K

Where the f-k is New Life! I walked all over fu-ing Centro and couldn't find it. Not only the fking weather is bad in Medellin, but also finding an address is too frustrating and good luck if you can find anything you maybe looking for.

Guys,

Thank God Pussy is for sure getting cheaper now, the Dollar equal to 1984 Colombian Pesos. So go bang as many Paisitas as your dick can afford to stay stiff.

True that MP is cheaper than Mayorista. I like MPs, because they are cheap, no rip-offs, and business-like. I also like Mayorista WHEN I STAY AT A HOTEL IN MAYO. In Mayo, I can have more-personal and intimate relationships with the girls. Some girls stayed in my room for 2-3 hours and / or offered sexo sin condon for 25k pesos. One girl cooked lunch and brought it to my hotel. One Mayo girl came to Cartagena on her expense after I left Medellin for Cartagena. These things could not happen at MPs. You can have some GFEs with Mayo girls. Mayorista could be a little better than garbage.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1203224]OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.[/QUOTE]

First off, @Viajero, look at the address on the list and go there. If you cannot find it, ask someone. There are one or two old timers in the street offering directions to the various casas in that area generally, for a quick question I doubt they will even ask for a tip. Breathe easy, you will find it.

@Matt, I stayed near there once and I didn't mess with it, really turned me off then. I went twice recently looking for someone in particular, did not find her, this time there was more selection but none of it great. Probably I have been a dozen times total, including the stay there, it's just not for me.

You can find GFE and sin condon anywhere. Far be it from me to judge, I've taken some risks, but I would not go with a girl there sin condon. Experienced people who first put me on to a lot of things in MDE concurred. Hopefully you can trust the girls, it's your risk, but like I said personally I find you can get GFE and BB in lugares mas confiables.

[QUOTE=Psychman; 1203276]Got to love your tone- do you try or does that come naturally? Would love to hear what your Spanish really sounds like. Can't wait to hear your response!

I don't love La Mayorista, but it is a fun change of pace. I don't use the short term hotels, but have found several girls for TLN- each gladly accepted 100K. Three were totally GFE / PSE mix. One was indeed too high and far too much of a partier- sex was average at best.

I also do prefer the MPs, and really have enjoyed amazing sessions in MDE in MPs, and with MP chicas in apartements or hotels.

Some people like to hang in areas outside Poblado- some do not. I don't begrudge anyone their style. Perhaps you are too good to have a bowl of Sancocho or Bandeja in one of the eateries along the drag in La Mayorista; perhaps it is too much of a garbage dump for you. Too each his own. All I know is that I have had some great times in similar places throughout Latin America, just as I have had great times in places like Poblado.

La Majorista can be a bit unsafe at times, so guys want to watch their asses. I do suggest safely checking it out, as with El Centro Strip clubs, MPs around town, High end Strip Clubs, CB 1 and CB2. Enjoy it all.

K[/QUOTE]I am not sure what to make of the tone / Spanish comment. I speak somewhere between intermediate and fluent Spanish, I can hold a conversation with anyone of any length (except some costenos, their accents are tough). Perhaps some day we will chat.

I stayed at Frank's above the Mayo once. I ate there every day, pechua de pollo con arroz, platanos, frijoles why gaseosa por 4K COP. I have stayed with friends in strata 2 neighborhoods in Bello and very simple pueblos like La Ceja. I am not a snob, I just want to have a good time and to me the Mayo is not that. I am sure I have pissed some people with my comments, they are just as entitled to their opinions and convictions as I am.

I have never felt unsafe at the Mayo, just unpleasant. It is good advice to stay aware of your surroundings though.

There are Prepagos but of courses some are very profecionals, who seems be to innocent. The last one I met was DAYANA FORY, a fashion model. I think she has been denied VISA. She wants do everyting right every aspect, even if her future husband could be older than her father etc.

Viviana Pretty (Andrea).

Alejandra Montoya.

They will then cry over the vast bills they gets every months (even though their apartments is owned by her grandma (1a nivel prepago) or exclisive service paysthe rent 1-2 / week.

Cordialemente Mathias H

Fellow mongers, I can not strongly enough warn you for the these the top level prepagos who cooperate with corrupt Police / DAS. They are intelligente. They have solid cover-up story and takes fropm your assets, which can leave no traces. They get away with quickly. Leaving no evidende. The pregago walkes some blocks and then take a cab, changes and they get in to a club (Where her friends greets her and she invites them to Agua ariende, o suberb Tequila!)

THIS IS A WARNING. EQUAL TO BEING ROBBED BY A TAXIDRIVER. Or even worse since Police / DAS will already have written their report.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1203224]OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your facts and impressions. Also, most street girls are drug addicts (coke, crack, meth, weed, glue, etc.) or alcoholics, and you have to constantly keep an eye on them as they will try to steal something from you when you're not looking (e. G. When in the room, when you're taking a shower, etc)

[QUOTE=Midwest; 1203253]If I'm not mistaken, I read the Demi Moore look-alike was spotted at La Mayo AFTER spending time at CB1.

I stop by for a drink or two there as well as Av. De Grieff (#'s 6 & 1 respectively, in 'steeet action', World Travel 69's list).[/QUOTE]I met ¨Demi¨ four years ago at Mayo before she became infamous. She had pale white skin, flat chest, short legs, not much of an ass. Today she looks like old trailer park trash.

Hard to say which area has the uglier, fatter street girls, Mayo or Centro (Av. De Grieff, Cra53). I think it's a tie.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1203318]True that MP is cheaper than Mayorista. I like MPs, because they are cheap, no rip-offs, and business-like. I also like Mayorista WHEN I STAY AT A HOTEL IN MAYO.[/QUOTE]When I stayed overnight at a hotel in the middle of the Mayo strip last month the hotel told me there was an additional fee I had to pay for every girl I take to my room. In previous years that was never the case.

[QUOTE=Psychman;1203193]How about we agree to provide good factual information and impressions on about our own experiences, and not provide sweeping generalizations that seeks to stop dialogue and the providing information?[/QUOTE]I agree

[QUOTE=Pirata2011; 1203482]Fellow mongers, I can not strongly enough warn you for the these the top level prepagos who cooperate with corrupt Police / DAS. They are intelligente. They have solid cover-up story and takes fropm your assets, which can leave no traces. They get away with quickly. Leaving no evidende. The pregago walkes some blocks and then take a cab, changes and they get in to a club (Where her friends greets her and she invites them to Agua ariende, o suberb Tequila!)

THIS IS A WARNING. EQUAL TO BEING ROBBED BY A TAXIDRIVER. Or even worse since Police / DAS will already have written their report.[/QUOTE]How did they conspire with the DAS or Police to take what you have in house and then go to a club and drink Tequila? You just can't blurt out a JFK style conspiracy without elaborating.

This May Help.

[QUOTE=Viajero;1203285]Where the f-k is New Life! I walked all over fu-ing Centro and couldn't find it. Not only the fking weather is bad in Medellin, but also finding an address is too frustrating and good luck if you can find anything you maybe looking for.[/QUOTE]

Demi is a free spirited girl easy to negotiate with, very nice looking, any one who has actually been with her for real, I have never heard a negative report, on the streets or in the Mansion she allways advised me and tried to help out with the other girls, I nevered considered her, till one night she was being so nice, never asked for anything I figured I try her, I did not regret it, A GFE from start to finish, Just some advice for noobs, if you act like a client you will be a client, if you act like a Bf you will be a bf, if you act like the Man, you are the Man.

Hey fellow mongers, I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some contacts for chicas as I have a place in El Poblado that I would like to utilize. Me and two friends will be here for 6 days. I would appreciate any tips, advice, help!

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1203574]If you act like a client you will be a client, if you act like a Bf you will be a bf, if you act like the Man, you are the Man.[/QUOTE]Damn, you came out of left field with that one but I agree 100. If you like a chump, you get treated like a chump. If you act scary, you're going to get robbed! UNIVERSAL TRUTHS.

Peace

[QUOTE=World Travel 69;1203529]This May Help.[/QUOTE]It used to be located right across the street from "Parque Periodista" Where all the kids get stoned. Try asking a young person to show you how to get there.

Finding a place can be confusing. Totally understand. Eventually you will remember by sight and feel which is a lot easier. MDE is based on a grid system but not your typical ABC format like NYC.


*** If you find Parque Periodista you WILL be able to find several other casas. It is a great starting place for anybody.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1203224]OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.[/QUOTE]How many Mayo and MP "interviews" did you conduct?

[QUOTE=Jaxon;1203489]When I stayed overnight at a hotel in the middle of the Mayo strip last month the hotel told me there was an additional fee I had to pay for every girl I take to my room. In previous years that was never the case.[/QUOTE]Please PM me for the name of this hotel.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sansgonzales7;1203592]Hey fellow mongers, I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some contacts for chicas as I have a place in El Poblado that I would like to utilize. Me and two friends will be here for 6 days. I would appreciate any tips, advice, help![/QUOTE]Inbox me if you want some info, I will not post pics or numbers in the forum generally but can make some suggestions.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1203389]I went twice recently looking for someone in particular, did not find her, .

I have never felt unsafe at the Mayo, just unpleasant. It is good advice to stay aware of your surroundings though.[/QUOTE]I know who was that someone you were talking about. I saw her the first night at Mayo on my last trip. She looked stunning and beautiful in a green and flowery dress. She had to be the most beautiful girl there that night, IMHO.

On a side note, I brought some personal hygiene products with me and stayed in a hotel here. STOLEN were a 12-oz Scope Mouth Wash and a 4-oz Vaseline Intensive Care Hand Lotion. I had 5 or 6 SWs in my room, some with handbags, and also 2 non-pros with 2 very large handbags. So I could not really tell who took them. The lost items disappeared towards the end of the trip and they're not worth that much but I would subsequently be wary of the chicas who come to my room with any handbag. First time for me.

[quote=el bacano;1203574]demi is a free spirited girl easy to negotiate with.[/quote]in my book, negotiating for every item of service, extras, price add-ons preclude a real gfe. beauty is highly subjective and relative. like the saying goes: one man's trash is another man's treasure. i'm used to girls who are more attractive than ¨demi¨ (geraldine) and girls who provide better service without the upsell and negotiations. if you like g, hey that's fine.

[quote=matt psyche;1202306]everytime i come to medellin, i catch cold / flu while the temparature in medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. but it gets chilly significantly in the night in medellin. plus, it is rainning all the time. i suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the usa though i have flu shots before going to medellin, they do not seem to be working. plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. i would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in medellin.[/quote]the city needs to replace all those old buses and trucks. the fact that medellin is landlocked between two converging mountain ranges which form the aburra valley aggravates the polluted air quality. the smog just sits there in the valley without any wind to blow it away.

[quote=ezyngo;1202282]i flew home early wednesday morning, sept. 28, 2011 with a flu. i think i caught it the day earlier in el centro while walking and window shopping. i totally put the blame on way too much rain in mde and the difference in climate between it and so. california.[/quote]¨la ciudad de la eternal primavera¨ or the ¨city of eternal spring¨ is false advertising. it rains 7 months a year! but i somewhat like the rain because it washes away the filth on the street and the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] stained sidewalks, and the thousands of homeless people and dirty beggars in centro. did you notice almost of them carry a weapon (knife, blade, shank, club, stick with sharpened end, etc.). few years ago there was a huge display of the thousands of these confirep001ed weapons at parque bolivar in front of the police substation.

FACT: We were in Mayorista and three ladies were sitting at the table next to us. I invited them over for a drink and they moved. One soon left. The two that were remaining; a VGL lady (probably 25-30, but hot) , and a young one just turned 18 sitting beside her, holding on to her leg. It was like the older one was showing the young thing the ropes. The were both dressed very well. After a while my friend asks them to go back to his room and they agree. He pays them a total of $160, 000 COP. They stay for 2. 5 hours in his room of what he says was fabulous sex. They were into each other and him also. They actually looked like they could have worked at Fase Dos by the way they were dressed, and looked.

Is this the norm, probably not, but I don't think it is that rare either. Women who have not made money earlier in the night stop by to see what they can find.

The biggest problem that I see with Mayorista is the age of many of the girls. Several times I have talked to VGL young ladies that would not produce a cedula before going to the room. They all said I will show you when we get up there, yeah right.

Mayorista is certainly not for everyone. It is a little rough around the edges. It reminds me of some parts of Tijuana. I am in Tijuana at least twice a month. With women coming from all over Mexico to work there are very diverse looking women, and some very, very, hot women. Someone else mentioned that the girls of Mayorista were like the SG's in Tijuana. IMO, that person has not been to Tijuana in a while. There are many very hot SG's in Tijuana now. If you have seen the cartoon about negotiating with a SG, it is very funny, and very true.

I will be back in MDE in November and look forward to my travels to many parts of MDE, including Mayorista.

Health & happiness to all.

[QUOTE=Sansgonzales7;1203592]Hey fellow mongers, I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some contacts for chicas as I have a place in El Poblado that I would like to utilize. Me and two friends will be here for 6 days. I would appreciate any tips, advice, help![/QUOTE]I also stay in El Poblado and Envigado when I'm there. I usually go to the strip clubs and meet chics, exchange numbers, then invite them the next day for an afternoon delight before they go to work. Plus the strip clubs have rooms in the back if you want to do a trial run.

A few years ago, the building supers were cracking down on mongerers staying there. The residents were saying we were hurting their investments. This was happening mainly in El Pablado. So the building supers were requesting a minimum week stay to crack down on the weekend mongerers. I was told by the rental company to be on best behavior. No orgys, no slutty looking tricks, and no parties. This was funny because the building maid had a girl doing tricks if I wanted. I haven't heard much about this lately, so I guess most guys stay at the mansion. I'm just saying be discreet because you are being watched.

El Poblado is very hilly, but its near Parque Illeras. Envigo is not as chic and less hilly. Also walk the girl up and then walk the girl out so you won't be blamed if some chica is running around the building sola.

[QUOTE=Supersteve; 1203852]FACT: We were in Mayorista and three ladies were sitting at the table next to us. I invited them over for a drink and they moved. One soon left. The two that were remaining; a VGL lady (probably 25-30, but hot). My friend pays them a total of $160, 000 COP. They stay for 2. 5 hours in his room. They actually looked like they could have worked at Fase Dos by the way they were dressed, and looked.

Mayorista is certainly not for everyone. It is a little rough around the edges. It reminds me of some parts of Tijuana. I am in Tijuana at least twice a month. With women coming from all over Mexico to work there are very diverse looking women, and some very, very, hot women. Someone else mentioned that the girls of Mayorista were like the SG's in Tijuana. IMO, that person has not been to Tijuana in a while. There are many very hot SG's in Tijuana now. If you have seen the cartoon about negotiating with a SG, it is very funny, and very true.[/QUOTE]Fase2 no longer carries the same status. Six years ago. 1 out of 5 Fase2 girls looked nice (to me). Three years ago it was 1 out of 10. Now it's only 1 out of 20.

Before Medellin was gringo town, Mayo girls would TLN (spend all night) with me for 50K, and that was when Mayo actually had pretty girls. 30year-old ladies are too old for me. Nevertheless, I'm happy your friend enjoyed them.

I agree Tijuana has lots of hotties, many more than Medellin. I fucked many models from all over the country in Tijuana where there are 700 club girls and another 600 street girls in a small, concentrated 4-block area, easy to walk to all places. Tijuana has a much more party-like, wild fun atmosphere. My next trip is to Tijuana.

[QUOTE=Happy Neil;1201588]First night went to Faces Dos around 8:30 pm and the girls were eating dinner of rice and beans provided by the establishment. I saw a relatively fresh 21 year old girl, a little chubby in the waist and hips and crooked teeth, but doable, and plunked down my money. Had to pay 5K more for condom. Nothing exciting about the sex.[/QUOTE]Rice and beans! LOL! They should feed them salad instead.

[QUOTE=Jaxon; 1204135]Fase2 no longer carries the same status. Six years ago. 1 out of 5 Fase2 girls looked nice (to me). Three years ago it was 1 out of 10. Now it's only 1 out of 20.

Before Medellin was gringo town, Mayo girls would TLN (spend all night) with me for 50K, and that was when Mayo actually had pretty girls. 30year-old ladies are too old for me. Nevertheless, I'm happy your friend enjoyed them.

I agree Tijuana has lots of hotties, many more than Medellin. I fucked many models from all over the country in Tijuana where there are 700 club girls and another 600 street girls in a small, concentrated 4-block area, easy to walk to all places. Tijuana has a much more party-like, wild fun atmosphere. My next trip is to Tijuana.

Rice and beans! LOL! They should feed them salad instead.[/QUOTE]Jaxon while I respect your mostly spot on opinions of the current situation in MDE. It sucks and those of us who have been going there 6 years plus know this, but you are not reinventing the wheel. With the onset of social media, things and places get exploited very quickly. Gringo influx in this hobby is NEVER GOOD. A watering down of talent, gringos overpaying, prices rising is always the unfortunate outcome. That and along with the Colombian economy stable and improving will always sacrifice the hottest prepagos out of the game first.

So whats a concerned monger to do? Keep your mouth shut if you find some place or someone new. I don't know how long you've been following this forum or which # handle this might be for you but if you've been around you will notice many many prior member posters who do NOT post on here anymore.

One thing I can guarantee you though is that I still have my places and chicas who are humble and will gladly accept 60k-80k for an honest TLN (no not go home with you at 4am and leave at 8am) and give me many thanks for doing so. Live and Learn!

went to this place yesterday about 3pm. was shown about 6-7 girls. 3 of them doable, one of them, milena. 26 years old, supposedly one month in the business, very nice, could have worked at phase dos (i asked her why she didn't work there; she said she liked being with her friends there). confirmed the prices (32k for 30 minutes. 42k for 45 minutes, and 52k for an hour. asked if i went for the 30 minutes and wanted to extend, could i just pay the difference between the two rates and was told yes. chose milena and went to the room. asked if the sheets could be changed and she did. took a shower and started the action. cbj (nice) and ball sucking, then sex in various positions. the knock came at about 30 minutes so i asked her if she wanted to stay longer. she said up to you so i said let's extend for another 15 minutes. she tells the woman in charge and is told that it will be 20k for 20 minutes. i told her that was not what was agreed on. after some haggling, we agreed to 20k for another half hour. we went at it again and finished in the allotted time. nice girl and good service- took a pounding without complaint. got dressed, gave her a tip (10k which covered the beer she had asked for) , was given a kiss, and asked to come back and see her.

about 50 yards from the casa, i was accosted by someone who flashed a police badge and said i had to come with him to police station because i had been with an **** girl. i told him that was not true, she was 26 years old. he went on about how i would be arrested and held in jail for 72 hours and then deported. i told him let's go back to the place so she could show him her cedula and started to walk back to the casa. he said no, we had to go to the police station because i was in a house where they had an **** girl. i told him i didn't see any **** girl, and how was i to know if they had one. according to him, it was a crime to be in there, even if i didn't know. (during our discussion, he was talking into a microphone with what was presumably the police station.) we started walking to the police station, with him telling me that he could help me but not once we reached the police station. on the off-chance that he was for real, i decided to give him 5k to get rid of him. i took out my cash and couldn't find a 5k bill. i told him i didn't have a 5k note so lets go to the police station. he then asked me if that was all i was going to give him. i said yes. apparently, he was insulted at the offer and took out his wallet to show me it was filled with 50k notes. (apparently the shakedown business is doing well). he then told me to not go there again and he let me go.

i don't know if he was a real (bad) cop or someone with a fake badge, but it seemed evident that he did not want to take me to the police station, presumably because it was a bullshit charge. however, it was unsettling enough to make me reconsider going back to the place, although i would have liked to see milena again.

[quote=jimmy boy 99;1204183]about 50 yards from the casa, i was accosted by someone who flashed a police badge and said i had to come with him to police station because i had been with an **** girl. i told him that was not true, she was 26 years old.[/quote]to my knowledge they have to actually catch you having sex or in the act to be guilty, if someone else knows different please correct me. so pretty sure i would have told him to fuck off in those words.

Are you sure that gringo influx is really a major cause of the price increase and decline of chica quality? The fact that two things happened at the same time does not necessarily mean that one caused the other. When the sales of ice cream increases, the sales of beer increases, because the both are influenced by the temparature. The former does not cause the latter. Could it be the case that the economic growth and increased security in Medellin increased the amount of gringo travellers and reduced the size of sex workers, which decreased their quality?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1204180]Gringo influx in this hobby is NEVER GOOD. A watering down of talent, gringos overpaying, prices rising is always the unfortunate outcome. ![/QUOTE]

Very good point MP. What I noticed and have been told by some of my favorita prepagos is that going abroad to earn USD is the way to go. Same job, way better pay, a bit of a struggle for my family but it's only for 3-6 months. Why make $120K a night pounding the pavement at Mayo when you can work in Panama, Costa Rica, Aruba, Peru and Ecuador and make $200-$300 per pop! 3 x a night= $900 more or less x 6 days a week x 30 x 3. 6 months equals REAL MONEY!

They can now come home and can now afford to buy the kids a Wii, flat screen, buy a car, start a business, go to school. WE need to make immigration harder for las chicas! Keep them in country, stupid, poor, and grateful for a good tip!

[quote=jimmy boy 99; 1204183]went to this place yesterday about 3pm. was shown about 6-7 girls. 3 of them doable, one of them, milena. 26 years old, supposedly one month in the business, very nice, could have worked at phase dos (i asked her why she didn't work there; she said she liked being with her friends there). confirmed the prices (32k for 30 minutes. 42k for 45 minutes, and 52k for an hour. asked if i went for the 30 minutes and wanted to extend, could i just pay the difference between the two rates and was told yes. chose milena and went to the room. asked if the sheets could be changed and she did. took a shower and started the action. cbj (nice) and ball sucking, then sex in various positions. the knock came at about 30 minutes so i asked her if she wanted to stay longer. she said up to you so i said let's extend for another 15 minutes. she tells the woman in charge and is told that it will be 20k for 20 minutes. i told her that was not what was agreed on. after some haggling, we agreed to 20k for another half hour. we went at it again and finished in the allotted time. nice girl and good service- took a pounding without complaint. got dressed, gave her a tip (10k which covered the beer she had asked for) , was given a kiss, and asked to come back and see her.

about 50 yards from the casa, i was accosted by someone who flashed a police badge and said i had to come with him to police station because i had been with an **** girl. i told him that was not true, she was 26 years old. he went on about how i would be arrested and held in jail for 72 hours and then deported. i told him let's go back to the place so she could show him her cedula and started to walk back to the casa. he said no, we had to go to the police station because i was in a house where they had an **** girl. i told him i didn't see any **** girl, and how was i to know if they had one. according to him, it was a crime to be in there, even if i didn't know. (during our discussion, he was talking into a microphone with what was presumably the police station.) we started walking to the police station, with him telling me that he could help me but not once we reached the police station. on the off-chance that he was for real, i decided to give him 5k to get rid of him. i took out my cash and couldn't find a 5k bill. i told him i didn't have a 5k note so lets go to the police station. he then asked me if that was all i was going to give him. i said yes. apparently, he was insulted at the offer and took out his wallet to show me it was filled with 50k notes. (apparently the shakedown business is doing well). he then told me to not go there again and he let me go.

i don't know if he was a real (bad) cop or someone with a fake badge, but it seemed evident that he did not want to take me to the police station, presumably because it was a bullshit charge. however, it was unsettling enough to make me reconsider going back to the place, although i would have liked to see milena again.[/quote]almost for sure he was not a cop. familiarize yourself with what the real cops and military wear for footwear then when you are approached by what appears to be a fake look down and see what they are wearing for shoes, a dead giveaway every time.

if you want to go back there and don't want to get hassled again take a taxi.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1204231]Almost for sure he was NOT a cop. Familiarize yourself with what the real cops and military wear for footwear then when you are approached by what appears to be a fake look down and see what they are wearing for shoes, a dead giveaway every time.

If you want to go back there and don't want to get hassled again take a taxi.[/QUOTE]I was just thinking the same thing. Shoes and the shave are my clues. What would a Detective in Colombia care if some gringo was with a young girl? He'd be too busy with REAL crime in Colombia. Military too.

My tip; If you have decent Spanish skills say something more or less like this "Please! A guy in a better suite just tried the same trick on me." or "Come on! I used to live in ____ and they tried to pull the same scam; move on!"

Doesn't matter what you say; it's how you say it!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1204180]Jaxon while I respect your mostly spot on opinions of the current situation in MDE. It sucks and those of us who have been going there 6 years plus know this, but you are not reinventing the wheel. With the onset of social media, things and places get exploited very quickly. Gringo influx in this hobby is NEVER GOOD. A watering down of talent, gringos overpaying, prices rising is always the unfortunate outcome. That and along with the Colombian economy stable and improving will always sacrifice the hottest prepagos out of the game first.

So whats a concerned monger to do? Keep your mouth shut if you find some place or someone new. I don't know how long you've been following this forum or which # handle this might be for you but if you've been around you will notice many many prior member posters who do NOT post on here anymore.

One thing I can guarantee you though is that I still have my places and chicas who are humble and will gladly accept 60k-80k for an honest TLN (no not go home with you at 4am and leave at 8am) and give me many thanks for doing so. Live and Learn![/QUOTE]Right on Heat, hard to argue with your assesment.

This past trip to MDE I did more TLN than usual. An old hand who stayed across the hall from me noticed this, and said to me " you know you are paying them to sleep "

I wondered how I had not realized this. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. I think in the future the only TLN's will be if I wife up for more than one day.

I see quite a few reports on Mayorista lately. It is funny how there are such different opinions on the merits of this area when in the other aspects of MDE there is more of an agreement in service that is to be had. At the Mansion it is almost agreed that for most guys it is a good experence. Also casa's like New Life, and strip clubs like Fase Dos all have the same type of reports. I wonder why the Mayo has such a strong reaction from ( pro or con) most Mongers?

[QUOTE=Ricker;1204250]Right on Heat, hard to argue with your assesment.[/QUOTE]I was going to pour my heart out into a long well thought out rant but I just don't have it in me. Why? I have been spending hours and hours lately researching affordable pfp opportunities still available in Latin America. You don't want to see the results trust me.

If MDE goes down the tubes there will be panic in the LA monger world. At least for guys on a budget. Get your yankee hats on and head to sosua!

I for one don't have many choices left for what I like to do. Hoping and praying for a revolution somewhere.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1204253]I was going to pour my heart out into a long well thought out rant but I just don't have it in me. Why? I have been spending hours and hours lately researching affordable pfp opportunities still available in Latin America. You don't want to see the results trust me.

If MDE goes down the tubes there will be panic in the LA monger world. At least for guys on a budget. Get your yankee hats on and head to sosua!

I for one don't have many choices left for what I like to do. Hoping and praying for a revolution somewhere.[/QUOTE]Many years ago there was great P4P in my hometown. Myself, and 3 or 4 other guys had girls that we shared, and when a new one came along we would spread the word to each other. I got married, and was out of action till quite a few years went by, and I returned to try to monger again in my hometown. It was a barren waste land. The only thing out there was ugly crack hoes. When the pickens were good, the job situation was good with most people having jobs. Now that a lot of people are out of work, and times are getting tough in the USA you would think P4P would be OK.

As far as the guys in LA, they can still go to Tijuana. Sure the girls are more expensive than MDE, but the cost of the airfare to MDE more than makes up for that.

I like Sosua a lot (Classico) , but the girls as a rule are not as bonita as in Colombia, and because of the fine beach it makes for lodging, P4P, and food to be more costly.

In addition to financial considerations, doing TLN increases your risk profile considerably, JG. Artie boy, one thing you got to realize is that the places that are going to pop up in your research will tend to be the more expensive ones by the very nature of the research process. You might have to go to places way off the beaten path, like Guatemala.

Oh, wait a minute. You did. So you want cheaper than [B]that? [/B] I read where Alabama just passed a really strict immigration law and they were talking about how all the illegal immigrants in this one trailer park were afraid to go to work or leave the house during the day. I see some potential there as desperation increases. Now México could have a revolution pretty soon but I think the drug boys will win and will probably come to control all the pussy and prices will actually go UP.

It is for sure a dilemma for the budget monger. Paraguay was a decent value but it costs a shit load to get there from the US. Chile could collapse pretty soon, I think, or you could try that area in Argentina that got fucked over by the volcanic ash, Villa La Angostura, which was very nice and pretty cheap before that happened. All the tourism is gone so supply should exceed demand by quite a wide margin.

Or go to the Motel Six Suites in Albuquerque, NM. Place was full of hoes when I was there for a night in January. $29 a night for the room if you pay by the week, full kitchen, pots and pans, etc. I was on my way back from Costa Rica so was not too interested but they had a couple of decent looking Latinas there. I was quoted $50 for TLN,"my place or yours," and $20 for a quick pop. I will be there around New Year's for a week before I head to my next job and will report. High probability of drug addiction, though.

I am unemployed now and it will be a total of 4 1/2 months out of work (then another month to get paid) so I will start a "Budget Mongering" thread in the Special Interests section.

Upon further review, there is a Prices thread so let's use that.

[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1204261]Artie boy, one thing you got to realize is that the places that are going to pop up in your research will tend to be the more expensive ones by the very nature of the research process. You might have to go to places way off the beaten path, like Guatemala.

I will start a "Budget Mongering" thread in the Special Interests section.[/QUOTE]I already know that this will be a good thread once you start it. At least I will have someplace formal to ***** about my financial woes.

Guatemala was great for 3 weeks last December but when I went back in Feb it had run it's course for me. You get what you pay for. If I had to go through another 3 weeks of Guate again I might consider a noose. Everything besides a few bars and a McDonalds close at 7pm. It drove me nuts. I can't and won't torture myself like that for pfp. Maybe for 1 week eventually. Same goes for San Salvador and all the other CA operations.

New Mexico and all those southwest border areas excite me but knowledge is key and I assume not easy to obtain for an outsider. If things weren't so bad in Laredo I would be checking out that entire texas border region. Just too bad.

Quito Bogota La Paz = Altitude issues. Never again! I never recovered fully even after 3 weeks in Quito. When I came my heart felt like it was cumming out of my chest. That was way too scary for me.

I want Lima or BA 5 years ago. Those were the best days for me hands down. You are correct when you say pfp is available out west. Actually if you look at escort reviews middle america is doing quiet well in that department. However in NYC pfp is a BS scam up sells lazy hags gringa mentality. A quick romp to Montreal would be a better option perhaps@180 US per hr. For beautiful white meat. Unheard of in NYC. Thank you Greyhound for $73 one way tickets to Montreal. Now to find an affordable hotel with heat.

I will take it trip by trip at this point. I cannot plan too far ahead these days. Tijuana is my default location. More of my money and effort has gone to Tijuana these past 2 years and I still haven't done a bargirl. The party vibe and great food keeps me happy. Every now and then a meth head will eat *my ass for $20. Life is not bad for me down there as long as I have a valid prescription and I don't reek of alcohol.

Johnny:

There should be something for you but maybe not in your price range. You should try to investigate more.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1204252]This past trip to MDE I did more TLN than usual. An old hand who stayed across the hall from me noticed this, and said to me " you know you are paying them to sleep "

I wondered how I had not realized this. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. I think in the future the only TLN's will be if I wife up for more than one day.

I see quite a few reports on Mayorista lately. It is funny how there are such different opinions on the merits of this area when in the other aspects of MDE there is more of an agreement in service that is to be had. At the Mansion it is almost agreed that for most guys it is a good experence. Also casa's like New Life, and strip clubs like Fase Dos all have the same type of reports. I wonder why the Mayo has such a strong reaction from (pro or con) most Mongers?[/QUOTE]Going to disagree with you and your "old hand" on this one good buddy. TLN does not pay them to sleep, it pays them to leave on YOUR time clock, not on theirs. In the long run, it is far cheaper. TLN often runs about 30-40 percent more than an hour or two in most places I have been. If I start off a TLN at 9am, have one session, another at midnight or after, and then one in the morning, the price per nut is FAR cheaper. Also, for 20 or 30 bucks extra (max) I am in control of when the session ends. If I do that 5 times over the course of one week, that that 100 bucks is a very small percentage of my total trip cost, counting airfare into the equation.

Most importantly, for me, I get sick of them, I send them home when I want, as opposed to them being in control of time. If I have a all night fuck fest I will spend far less on chicas during the day. If I get sick of them in a few hours, then I can send them home, but I am the one deciding how often we will fuck and how many times. I like to take the pressure off and just enjoy myself. Also, for me, a TLN is more likely to be more intensly GFE and a shorter session. Of course, YMMV. Some guys get board with chicas for more than an hour or two- I usually find a way to entertain myself.

Guate sounds like Paraguay. But I bet the gals in Paraguay are better looking on average. But it is a fuck of a lot farther. On that altitude stuff, maybe quit smoking? I had no significant altitude issues. Isn't Medellín like 4500 feet? I like a lot of things about Quito but the mongering is like a C minus. OTOH sitting in SP beating your meat is a D minus. Kinda confused; are you in New York or Los Angeles?

When I spent five weeks in Medellín in 2007 I hoped the city would be as interesting as Bogotá and the pussy would be as good as Buenos Aires. Instead I thought the city was as good as Peoria (but with better weather) and the pussy was as good as the Moonlight Bunny Ranch (but cheaper). I thought it would be about as dangerous as Buenos Aires or Bogotá but instead it was like being in the middle of a drug war in Cuidad Juarez.

Anyway, let us not derail the thread. I will PM you with some stuff and I have tried to re-ignite the Price thread. Also the Yankees lost and I would say, conservatively, fuck them and the donkey they rode in on. I grew up in Pissport Connecticut so I can say that stuff.

[QUOTE=Psychman; 1204282]Going to disagree with you and your "old hand" on this one good buddy. TLN does not pay them to sleep, it pays them to leave on YOUR time clock, not on theirs. In the long run, it is far cheaper. TLN often runs about 30-40 percent more than an hour or two in most places I have been. If I start off a TLN at 9am, have one session, another at midnight or after, and then one in the morning, the price per nut is FAR cheaper. Also, for 20 or 30 bucks extra (max) I am in control of when the session ends. If I do that 5 times over the course of one week, that that 100 bucks is a very small percentage of my total trip cost, counting airfare into the equation.

Most importantly, for me, I get sick of them, I send them home when I want, as opposed to them being in control of time. If I have a all night fuck fest I will spend far less on chicas during the day. If I get sick of them in a few hours, then I can send them home, but I am the one deciding how often we will fuck and how many times. I like to take the pressure off and just enjoy myself. Also, for me, a TLN is more likely to be more intensly GFE and a shorter session. Of course, YMMV. Some guys get board with chicas for more than an hour or two- I usually find a way to entertain myself.[/QUOTE]I do not post often, but I do read the board quite often. I did not have a wingman this trip so I flew solo. I am having a wonderful time. My comment is about Psychman and he is the most level headed and non polarizing person on this board. He tells it straight and is very accurate. I am currently in Medellin, La Mayorista as we speak. Yes it is noisy even as I type this thread. But here are the current facts. I went to Fase Dos on Thursday night, stayed about and hour and told one chica to come by after she got off. She was hot, had a great attitude, drank my fridge dry and was a fantastic GFE. It was TLN and it was cheaper in the long run as Psychcman has stated. On to the chicas of Mayorista. Wednesday was dead completely. No hotties in the afternoon. In the evening about 1 or 2. At night I did not know, I was with my amignovia. Thusday during the day about the same as Wednesday and at night before heading to Fase Dos a few cuties, but one or two real hotties. Last night I was with another amignovia, but sent her home to have some fun with La Mayo chicas. Last night there were several extremely hot women; by several I am saying about 15-20. There were of course the usual fatties and druggies. There was also a nice selection of cuties. If it is was like Friday every night I think the polarizing opinions on Mayo would be completely different. It is always a question of your particular choice. As far as safety is concerned in Mayo, it is completely fine. I have never had a problem. Obviously be aware of your surrounding, don't be the last gringo on the street and do not let others see you sloppy drunk. Save that for the comfort and security of your room or apartment.

All in all it is a great trip. The beer is good, the woman are great and (inexpensive). One suggestion if you join a dating website and are very discerning, you can have a hottie and only pay her with your attention and a few meals. Of course it is TLN if you want and furthermore after knowing her a while it can be "sin condon"

Cheers

Any mongers in Medellin right now that need a chica. I have one chica who desperately need work. PM me for her cell number.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1204544]Any mongers in Medellin right now that need a chica. I have one chica who desperately need work. PM me for her cell number.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You have one? There's at least a hundred thousand.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1204767]You have one? There's at least a hundred thousand.[/QUOTE]This one is "desperate"- LOL!

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1204767]You have one? There's at least a hundred thousand.[/QUOTE]I know baby. But I can only solve 'nemployment one chica at a time.

Cheers

Went today to this place and ordered pad thai. What they brought out was dish swimming in soy sauce that had no resemblance to what I ordered-more like chop suey than pad thai. They also had no Thai condiments. Apparently the only thing Thai about the place is the name. Don't expect Thai food here.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1204823]Went today to this place and ordered pad thai. What they brought out was dish swimming in soy sauce that had no resemblance to what I ordered-more like chop suey than pad thai. They also had no Thai condiments. Apparently the only thing Thai about the place is the name. Don't expect Thai food here.[/QUOTE]I ate there once in my last visit this past July. I agree, the food there is suspect, the drinks are weak. The only reason to go there is the view from the deck gives you a shot of some great eye candy as they make their way around the few blocks of PJ. Regards. TNF

Ya I know that place sux but the real thai is in p. Lleras called royal thai. Owner is thai, and I know thai! And it is good! Panang gai, spring rolls and cashew chicken is a great meal for 2!

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1204823]Went today to this place and ordered pad thai. What they brought out was dish swimming in soy sauce that had no resemblance to what I ordered-more like chop suey than pad thai. They also had no Thai condiments. Apparently the only thing Thai about the place is the name. Don't expect Thai food here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1204823]Went today to this place and ordered pad thai. What they brought out was dish swimming in soy sauce that had no resemblance to what I ordered-more like chop suey than pad thai. They also had no Thai condiments. Apparently the only thing Thai about the place is the name. Don't expect Thai food here.[/QUOTE]You can get really good Thai food in Bankok, Pattaya aint bad either,

Don't forget we have a board for food in Colombia.

[QUOTE=John Gault;1204986]Don't forget we have a board for food in Colombia.[/QUOTE]And a NEW hardly used thread for "INFO FOR NEWBIES" And one for Travel Announcements, General Information, Colombian Peso exchange rate and related issues. Etc etc

TLN is often a good value but I understand what the "old hand" is saying, there are times where you take a girl TLN and wind up banging twice, that's pretty much a wash in terms of money (I am speaking generally here so don't go attacking with specific examples).

As far as the example there, I have never once known a girl who considered TLN 24 hours, maybe I am just fuzzy fucking from fucking all night myself but that sounded like something that started at 9AM and ended the next morning.

Of course I try to avoid all this bullshit by just keeping actual girlfriends (non pre pagos) and some favorites who understand that my steady buck is better than a little more cash that may or may not come during the same time period. I hate the negotiating side of shit, either forge a nice understanding or just go somewhere with fair rates and pay them (e. G. MPs) is your best bet IMHO (as the crown moans,"Ha! Your opinion? Humble!").

Do they seem familiar?

Guys, food in Medellin suck big time. It is a shithole city, if not because of the Paisitas pussy, I wouldn't step a foot there. Food sucks, drivers are dangerously aggressive and stupid and they will run you over in a heart beat if you don't watch yourself, weather suck, it rains almost everyday with thunders and lightning along with the rain, people lie in your face while they smile at you, they will stab you in the back. Word of advice, when you go out to eat and you see a sign in a restaurant saying Italian food, Lebanese food, Chinese food etc. Food ignore it. They only use the names, but the cook is a Paisa who does not know an egg from a watermelon. I warned you, take or leave it, that was my dos centavos.

[QUOTE=Todasln; 1204426]I do not post often, but I do read the board quite often. I did not have a wingman this trip so I flew solo. I am having a wonderful time. My comment is about Psychman and he is the most level headed and non polarizing person on this board. He tells it straight and is very accurate.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Gracias. Sometimes I find myself getting drawn into some of the pettiness I see on boards- but I try not to. Not always easy.

As far as Medellin being a shithole, I guess to each his own. The city has amazing cultural events if you are into literature and the arts or lectures, supported by a very strong university community. I guess the question is what do you want in a place? What are the activities you wish to do when you are on vacation? If you want to fuck all day, certainly Medellin is prime for that. I you want activities geared toward English speaking tourists, it really is not the best place. That said, there are plenty of day trips and enough museums and tours of the city to keep the casual visitor busy for a few days at least. Trips to the villages and pueblos in the area are fun as well. Tons of opporturnities for hiking if your into it. We all have our interests, no?

If you like to wonder a city and soak up the daily life, I. E. The local markets, ect, it is fine but not great. I like to take the Metro (during the morning preferably, when the world is always a bit safer) , and explore various stops. Of course, you need to research and know where you are, and pay attention. Hiring a driver to take you around is an option too.

The food is nowhere on the scale of Lima, Mexico, or Thailand, but some of the soaps such are quiet lovely and sophisticated, even in the most humbled place to eat.

In general, I would say that it is not the greatest place if your Spanish sucks or if you really want a place with a strong tourist infestructure. I think the city has also been changing due to an influx of gringos, but some of those perceieved changes make be based upon the perspective of those whose interests are different than my own.

Basically, being able to get out of my daily rurtine, have sexy women treat me like a sex god, and not have any responsiblities other is a fucking privledge- I like wherever I am.

Hello,

I have about 2 weeks to spend in Colombia in the beginning of December and can't decide on the best itinerary and how to divide my time between various towns. I am leaning towards spending most of the time in Medellin because of its supposed great weather, paisas, the vibe, day trips, lower cost of living, etc. Bogota, on the other hand, appears to have more things to do. I will be flying NYC to BOG anyways and then a connecting flight to MDE, so airfare isn't really a factor. The longer I stay at one place, the better deal I can get on the apartment and work on my game with the girls.

I speak very comfortable Spanish and have been able to get a decent amount of non-pro action in Peru and Argentina. This will be my first time in Colombia.

So gentlemen, in your opinion, should I just stick to MDE and save BOG for the next time? Will I be bored out of my mind? May be I should visit Cali for a couple of days. What is the best itinerary for a monger?

You comments are greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Maxdnieo;1205041]Do they seem familiar?[/QUOTE]No, but I would like to get to know all three chicas (especially photo 8). Kindly post a link to the actual photos from the photo shoot please. ... or maybe it was a porno video shoot !

[QUOTE=Viajero;1205099]Guys, food in Medellin suck big time. It is a shithole city, if not because of the Paisitas pussy, I wouldn't step a foot there. Food sucks, drivers are dangerously aggressive and stupid and they will run you over in a heart beat if you don't watch yourself, weather suck, it rains almost everyday with thunders and lightning along with the rain, people lie in your face while they smile at you, they will stab you in the back. Word of advice, when you go out to eat and you see a sign in a restaurant saying Italian food, Lebanese food, Chinese food etc. Food ignore it. They only use the names, but the cook is a Paisa who does not know an egg from a watermelon. I warned you, take or leave it, that was my dos centavos.[/QUOTE]Yep, total shithole, you've been properly warned, everyone stay away.

Yeah, right.

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1205281]WARNING.

Don't ever go or send money to Frank Casio's My Place.

Frank Casio's My Place is a real shit hole.

Clle. 85 #51-27 Apt. 301-Itagui-Barrio Santa Maria 85-La Mayorista.

Near by there are many nice hotels much cheaper (usd10-25 / night)

Very clean with internet stereo flat screen tv and

Big beautiful beds with orthopedic mattresses.

Young pretty girls stay with you for 2 hours for only 25k.

The same woman would charge 300-400 USD in Panama for TLN.

In Panama food is great and taxis are cheap but hotels cost more.

Colombians are like snakes it's all about ¨platta¨ money.

But my airport taxi driver was very nice and helpfull.

I live in a hot country right on the beach

And enjoy the high altitude and cool weather for a change.[/QUOTE]The only thing correct in this post is the address. Very clean apartment. Flat screens in every room. Nice beds. Not great but nice. 25 / night per person.

[QUOTE=Celeritas; 1205148]Hello,

I have about 2 weeks to spend in Colombia in the beginning of December and can't decide on the best itinerary and how to divide my time between various towns. I am leaning towards spending most of the time in Medellin because of its supposed great weather, paisas, the vibe, day trips, lower cost of living, etc. Bogota, on the other hand, appears to have more things to do. I will be flying NYC to BOG anyways and then a connecting flight to MDE, so airfare isn't really a factor. The longer I stay at one place, the better deal I can get on the apartment and work on my game with the girls.

I speak very comfortable Spanish and have been able to get a decent amount of non-pro action in Peru and Argentina. This will be my first time in Colombia.

So gentlemen, in your opinion, should I just stick to MDE and save BOG for the next time? Will I be bored out of my mind? May be I should visit Cali for a couple of days. What is the best itinerary for a monger?

You comments are greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Beginning of Dec is my favorite time to go to Colombia, tons of parties in the streets and lots of semi pros and students are looking for extra money for Christmas gifts. Bogota has was more stuff to do and WAY better food! Medellin has better weather. I love Peru and Argentina as well!

I'd say do a week in Bogota and then a week in Medellin. Why not? Or 4 days 4 days 5 days. This way you can get a taste of everything. You will start to get board with any city in Colombia after a few days.

[QUOTE=Celeritas; 1205148]Hello,

I have about 2 weeks to spend in Colombia in the beginning of December and can't decide on the best itinerary and how to divide my time between various towns. I am leaning towards spending most of the time in Medellin because of its supposed great weather, paisas, the vibe, day trips, lower cost of living, etc. Bogota, on the other hand, appears to have more things to do. I will be flying NYC to BOG anyways and then a connecting flight to MDE, so airfare isn't really a factor. The longer I stay at one place, the better deal I can get on the apartment and work on my game with the girls.

I speak very comfortable Spanish and have been able to get a decent amount of non-pro action in Peru and Argentina. This will be my first time in Colombia.

So gentlemen, in your opinion, should I just stick to MDE and save BOG for the next time? Will I be bored out of my mind? May be I should visit Cali for a couple of days. What is the best itinerary for a monger?

You comments are greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I see other than BOG, and MDE you also are thinking of Cali. It is hot there, but with you speaking Spanish you will have a picnic there. Lots of hot Non pro's who are not jaded by Gringos like MDE. The key to a newbee in Cali in search of P4P is finding a good taxi driver. He will take you to so many places your head will be swimming.

I don't go there anymore after being there a couple of times because my airline does not fly to there from the States. Also I'm more interested in Pro's which makes MDE the best choice for me in Colombia.

Walked by there a few weeks ago and looks like a total shit stop from the out side. All so walked by the Hotel Central Plaza and Al Caravan that is a very short walk past the casino and took a tour of both places. The staff seemed real cool, showed me and a friend a room at both places and they were just fine. I understand they are the same owners. They both have web sites and it was like 20 bucks a night. Sorry Frank, but you know what they say in the realestate Bis! Location location location.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1205336]Beginning of Dec is my favorite time to go to Colombia, tons of parties in the streets and lots of semi pros and students are looking for extra money for Christmas gifts. Bogota has was more stuff to do and WAY better food! Medellin has better weather. I love Peru and Argentina as well!

I'd say do a week in Bogota and then a week in Medellin. Why not? Or 4 days 4 days 5 days. This way you can get a taste of everything. You will start to get board with any city in Colombia after a few days.[/QUOTE]I dig the begining of December in Colombia too. Especially Medellin and Cali for me, I'm not a big Bogota fan, but that's just my preferences.

I actually prefer to hang in one city on a trip. I like to make contacts, get girls comfortable with me, get more comfortable with them, build friendships and get more GFE, etc.

Not easy to do with 4 days here. 4 days there, unless maybe you've already got your contacts set up from previous trips.

What I do sometimes is choose say Medellin as my home city for the trip, then maybe take a side trip of a few days somewhere else, coming back to Medellin where I've built some relationships already.

I definitely do not get bored after a few days in one city, but then again that's me, I'm pretty relaxed about it all.

Some guys like to jump about, and don't care about making friendships and contacts as much, just pure PFP, and maybe the "few days here, and a few days there" program is better suited for them.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1205501]I dig the begining of December in Colombia too. Especially Medellin and Cali for me, I'm not a big Bogota fan, but that's just my preferences.

I actually prefer to hang in one city on a trip. I like to make contacts, get girls comfortable with me, get more comfortable with them, build friendships and get more GFE, etc.

Not easy to do with 4 days here. 4 days there, unless maybe you've already got your contacts set up from previous trips.

What I do sometimes is choose say Medellin as my home city for the trip, then maybe take a side trip of a few days somewhere else, coming back to Medellin where I've built some relationships already.

I definitely do not get bored after a few days in one city, but then again that's me, I'm pretty relaxed about it all.

Some guys like to jump about, and don't care about making friendships and contacts as much, just pure PFP, and maybe the "few days here, and a few days there" program is better suited for them.[/QUOTE]We're almost on the same page Mr Ricker. Like we said before; early Dec is one of the best times to go to Colombia, rocking parties everywhere, and great selection of semi-pros coming out of left field for that Christmas money for a new Playstation! I see where you're coming from about sticking to a home base, frequenting the same few spots, get a vibe and or a little connection with a few chicks. This is what I did when I first started coming down but for a first trip down and with two weeks to spend it might be better to try a few different cites as they do have their own unique vibe. Bogota and Medellin are the top two destinations with Cartagena and Cali not quite played out yet.

When I was a kid working in restaurants an older guy-waiter-buddy of mine gave me some advice to me about traveling that I have always held on to;

"If you're having fun stay, if it sucks leave and try another place"

Could not be any simpler

Travel Safe and Report back

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1205535]We're almost on the same page Mr Ricker.

. Bogota and Medellin are the top two destinations with Cartagena and Cali not quite played out yet.[/QUOTE]Yep, we're usually on the same page about things.

About Cartagena and Cali not being played out though; These 2 destinations were the hotspots for gringo visitors long before the Medellin invasion.

I remeber when Cali was filled with gringos and hanging at the many Cali marriage agencies.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1205535]. When I was a kid working in restaurants an older guy-waiter-buddy of mine gave me some advice to me about traveling that I have always held on to;

"If you're having fun stay, if it sucks leave and try another place"

Could not be any simpler

Travel Safe and Report back[/QUOTE]Simple but true, be happy.

Hey everyone. I'm making my second trip to Medellin in early December. I wanted to know if anyone knows if Fase Dos and San Diego Show are open on Sunday nights since I know that is family night in Medellin and if so are they open until regular hours as the other nights?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Maxdnieo;1205041]Do they seem familiar?[/QUOTE]Your 2. Jpg is wonderful. Naked with shoes, in perfect position for anal sqweezing the tits!

IT

[QUOTE=Cruiser3281; 1205871]Hey everyone. I'm making my second trip to Medellin in early December. I wanted to know if anyone knows if Fase Dos and San Diego Show are open on Sunday nights since I know that is family night in Medellin and if so are they open until regular hours as the other nights?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I believe that FD is closed and SD is open on Sunday nights.

I'm fairly certain this is the case!

When in Medellin I'm allways lookin for that heart throb girl I could only dream about in the US. The problem is I seem to find too many in Medellin that my US mentallity keeps me from pursuing till the trip is allmost over, sorry Men just trying to get my mind set for my next trip and trying to advise people here to remember to live every moment and if you are lucky to get second chances, make it right the next time around. Go for the hottest fantasy here Men even if its too good to be true, you will not regret it, don't worry about the cost till you get back to the states, you don't want to be thinkin about what you should have done when you are in the hospital with tubes coming out of you everywhere.

Gents,

For the first time ever, I have to use up my vacation days (about 3-4 days). And I've decided I really want to go to Medellin.

Problem is, I'm not your typical mongerer. I'm 25, fairly good looking, and have no problems picking up women back home. Thus arises my first question. What is the average age of an individual who goes to Medellin for mongering (lets say, stays at the Mansion)?

A big issue I have is that I have NO experience with Spanish, and thus why I believe staying at the Mansion would be a good start as girls frequent the hotel.

I plan on going in mid-November. How is the action there?

Are there accessible strip clubs? What are the best areas in Medellin to find girls?

Thanks in advance.

FYI. I WILL be writing a report upon my return, as I have many times on other forums in my region. Just looking for advice from you graduates. Don't mean to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] people off if the question has been asked, but rummaging through thousands of pages of posts for Medellin isn't as easy as it sounds.

todasin is staying there and making love constantly, so if the place is locked and the lights are off it is his fault. actually one person knows what is going on, and that is todasin. todasin, please save some of that mayo tang for those of us still locked in sex prison!

chesrep001.

[quote=you69me; 1205832]frank casio's my place is closed.

all phones and lights are disconnected the place is locked.

nobody even knows what is going on[/quote]

hi guys,

i'm not closed, so don't sweat it. i've just been working a little more from word of mouth and references. some guy showed up without making a reservation and that's probably what started the rumor. since i sold my house in envigado and moved to tampa, i made my place my vacationning spot. so when i go back to medellin every 3-4 months appr. and stay there 30+ days i stay at my place. so i have a room ready for me when i arrive, the street room, which some of you guys don't like anyways because of the street noise. i travel very light with a back back on spirit airlines, since i have everything i need there already. yeah, your typical walmart gringo, ha, ha.

so, no, frank's place-my place is far from closed, but there are only two rooms available now. so you can't just show up, reservations only. my watchdogs won't let anybody in without a confirmed reservation.

frank

[quote=chesrep001; 1206131]todasin is staying there and making love constantly, so if the place is locked and the lights are off it is his fault. actually one person knows what is going on, and that is todasin. todasin, please save some of that mayo tang for those of us still locked in sex prison!

chesrep001.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Rafzuh; 1206122]Gents,

For the first time ever, I have to use up my vacation days (about 3-4 days). And I've decided I really want to go to Medellin.

Problem is, I'm not your typical mongerer. I'm 25, fairly good looking, and have no problems picking up women back home. Thus arises my first question. What is the average age of an individual who goes to Medellin for mongering (lets say, stays at the Mansion)?

A big issue I have is that I have NO experience with Spanish, and thus why I believe staying at the Mansion would be a good start as girls frequent the hotel.

I plan on going in mid-November. How is the action there?

Are there accessible strip clubs? What are the best areas in Medellin to find girls?

Thanks in advance.

FYI. I WILL be writing a report upon my return, as I have many times on other forums in my region. Just looking for advice from you graduates. Don't mean to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] people off if the question has been asked, but rummaging through thousands of pages of posts for Medellin isn't as easy as it sounds.[/QUOTE]Well, if you don't speak spanish, how the hell do you plan on talking to regular girls. What are you going to do? Point all night. You would have to find a colombian that speaks english and doesn't already think your a typical american monger. Good luck! Just pay for it Brad Pitt.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1206154]Well, if you don't speak spanish, how the hell do you plan on talking to regular girls. What are you going to do? Point all night. You would have to find a colombian that speaks english and doesn't already think your a typical american monger. Good luck! Just pay for it Brad Pitt.[/QUOTE]It is very possible to find an educated woman who speaks a little english.

Generally the woman in Colombia are open minded.

I found a respectful woman a bit younger than me through ¨latinlovesearch¨

We are just holding hands kissing hugging

There is no greedy family behid her or money involved.

I am having the best time of my live.

Anyone here can do this just keep trying and you will succeed

[QUOTE=Rafzuh; 1206122]Gents,

For the first time ever, I have to use up my vacation days (about 3-4 days). And I've decided I really want to go to Medellin.

Problem is, I'm not your typical mongerer. I'm 25, fairly good looking, and have no problems picking up women back home. Thus arises my first question. What is the average age of an individual who goes to Medellin for mongering (lets say, stays at the Mansion)?

A big issue I have is that I have NO experience with Spanish, and thus why I believe staying at the Mansion would be a good start as girls frequent the hotel.

I plan on going in mid-November. How is the action there?

Are there accessible strip clubs? What are the best areas in Medellin to find girls?

Thanks in advance.

FYI. I WILL be writing a report upon my return, as I have many times on other forums in my region. Just looking for advice from you graduates. Don't mean to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] people off if the question has been asked, but rummaging through thousands of pages of posts for Medellin isn't as easy as it sounds.[/QUOTE]Paisas arent interested in how good looking you are. In fact they will tell the fattest ugliest bloke he is handsome. They are interested in your $$. You will learn that quick enough.

If I was as much of a stud as you I wouldn't waste my money flying to another country for 3 days to try and pick up pussy.

[quote=chesrep001; 1206131]todasin is staying there and making love constantly, so if the place is locked and the lights are off it is his fault. actually one person knows what is going on, and that is todasin. todasin, please save some of that mayo tang for those of us still locked in sex prison!

chesrep001.[/quote]when i'm back home i will up a picture so you can see for yourself.

Hotel Macedonia Plaza, Plaza Mayor, and Central Plaza are the same ownership. Not sure about Caravan. Cantral Plaza is the best hotel in Mayorista. But it is a little too distant to bring a girl from Mayo strip.

[QUOTE=Captaindorado;1205493]Walked by there a few weeks ago and looks like a total shit stop from the out side. All so walked by the Hotel Central Plaza and Al Caravan that is a very short walk past the casino and took a tour of both places. The staff seemed real cool, showed me and a friend a room at both places and they were just fine. I understand they are the same owners. They both have web sites and it was like 20 bucks a night. Sorry Frank, but you know what they say in the realestate Bis! Location location location.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1206154]Well, if you don't speak spanish, how the hell do you plan on talking to regular girls. What are you going to do? Point all night. You would have to find a colombian that speaks english and doesn't already think your a typical american monger. Good luck! Just pay for it Brad Pitt.[/QUOTE]If you do find a girl in Colombia who speaks good English in Colombia get ready to PAY BIG $$$ in one way or another, because she will be well seasoned in the game. Either she had prior gringo boyfriends who paid for English classes, has traveled to Costa Rica or Panana to "work", been or lived in the states or come from money where here family paid for her English classes and she doesn't need you. Any "regular" girl will worry more about wondering were the money's coming for her phone bill, almuerzo, buseta or metro money. No extra $$$ for English classes.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1206346]If you do find a girl in Colombia who speaks good English in Colombia get ready to PAY BIG $$$ in one way or another, because she will be well seasoned in the game. Either she had prior gringo boyfriends who paid for English classes, has traveled to Costa Rica or Panana to "work", been or lived in the states or come from money where here family paid for her English classes and she doesn't need you. Any "regular" girl will worry more about wondering were the money's coming for her phone bill, almuerzo, buseta or metro money. No extra $$$ for English classes.[/QUOTE]It's funny you say that Heat, 'cause I agree with you and it's normally the truth, however, I stumbled upon this chica I met in an obscure casa in Cali, very sweet, and to my surprise, speaks very good english.

She is very low key, humble and we've become friends, her seeing me outside the casa as friends with no money discussed, I just help her as I like.

She's definitely the excpetion, and just has a knack for languages as she learned from books and TV.

Actually is strange for me speaking english in Colombia, but she likes to practice, so with her it's english only.

Just a diamond in the rough.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1206352]It's funny you say that Heat, 'cause I agree with you and it's normally the truth, however, I stumbled upon this chica I met in an obscure casa in Cali, very sweet, and to my surprise, speaks very good english.

She is very low key, humble and we've become friends, her seeing me outside the casa as friends with no money discussed, I just help her as I like.

She's definitely the excpetion, and just has a knack for languages as she learned from books and TV.

Actually is strange for me speaking english in Colombia, but she likes to practice, so with her it's english only.

Just a diamond in the rough.[/QUOTE]Ricker, he said he was looking for a regular girl that speaks english. No casas. I would think he would have to troll for girls at banks and places where they deal with alot of gringos. The problem there is the educated girls that speak english at these places know he will be a monger. Also, alot of these girls arent that good looking. I met a couple english speaking servers at restaurants near the mansion that flirted with me but I wasnt attracted to them. There lies the problem. Sure, you can find regular girls that speak okay english, but are they hot compared to what you see at fase or san diego. Lets review: hot girl that works as escort 100. 00- regular girl who speaks english 20 dollar meal- regular girl that speaks english, is hot, and doesn't think your a monger- PRICELESS

Sounds like you really just want every one to say how pretty you are, You seem to want to compete with the Gringos to see whos better with the women, If you like American women just stay there you don't need the Latinas, These forums are for the Men not Boys who want something new, rather than giving in to the Gringa who wants to destroy the Gringo, This isn't all about age. You seem to be in a superficial state of mind, all you really need is a mirror.

I'm staying there next month. He is not closed.

[QUOTE=You69Me;1206300]When I'm back home I will up a picture so you can see for your self.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1206297]It is very possible to find an educated woman who speaks a little english.

Generally the woman in Colombia are open minded.

I found a respectful woman a bit younger than me through ¨latinlovesearch¨

We are just holding hands kissing hugging

There is no greedy family behid her or money involved.

I am having the best time of my live.

Anyone here can do this just keep trying and you will succeed[/QUOTE]If you're only in town for a week or so, having a relationship with a Paisa is very unlikely. Especially, if you don't speak Spanish. Yes, there are.

Nice girls in MDE and some of them even speak English, but how exactly is a typical vacationing foreigner going to find them and befriend them?

Chasing non-pros can be fun, and many of us do it in the States. But doing it on a vacation in MDE is problematical, even if you look like Clooney / Pitt / etc.

Assuming that HelpRules is going to be in MDE for a week or so, and knowing that he speaks no Espanol, he may as well go where play-for-pay is easiest.

Save the non-Pros for when he returns home.

Sorry meant Rafzuh, not HelpRules.

For the 1000 time; If you don't speak Spanish your chances are slim on hunting down a "regular" girl. Most people in Colombia do not even speak minimal English.

It's a pipe dream! Use your head please!

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1206154]Well, if you don't speak spanish, how the hell do you plan on talking to regular girls. What are you going to do? Point all night. You would have to find a colombian that speaks english and doesn't already think your a typical american monger. Good luck! Just pay for it Brad Pitt.[/QUOTE]How many times does this question need to be answered? NO! If you do not have ANY Spanish skills and only a few days (less than two weeks) you are most likely SHIT OUT OF LUCK with non pros! Stay at Casa Blanca; You'll have a great time and be in your comfort zone.

THIS IS A GREAT POST BY Hasideas Tao (POST #3254)

Already planning my next visit.

Hello, all,

Just returned from a fantastic trip to Medellin. Now if I could just kick this post nasal drip I acquired on the plane home!

I have to say that learning Spanish really pays off. I have these CDs in my car that have been repeating over and over for months. Sitting in traffic has never been more productive. Being able to spend a full day with a chica and even a second date changes the game completely! My Spanish is not great but I can get by. At times, the gringo tax was in full effect, especially during my short stay at CB. But otherwise, with just a little patience and putting forth a good effort, I was shown an unaccountable amount of compassion and generosity. In general, the people are so freaking friendly it makes me sad when I realize how desperate and impatient we gringos act in spite of all the luxuries and conveniences we so blindly take for granted. I think to make a better impression while visiting their country, we just need to slow down a little. I recommend games. Cards, dice, checkers. Whatever you can think of. I found a backgammon board in my apartment! Hours of entertainment, fabulous prizes and limited demand for Spanish vocabulary! Question. Whats the best way to get to and from the major cities. Specifically to CTG from MDE? I know in Peru, plane tickets are a lot less expensive if a local resident buys them. Is this the case in Colombia as well? Post in the forum or PM me. Thanks. Positive energy to all.

You clowns see what he did there? He went out and learned some basic Spanish! Shocking! Radical Idea?

Hey guys I'm going to go to Cambodia or Laos for some hot Asian Pussy. The normal girls all speak English right? Like all Americans speak two languages right? Oh wait. Most American's don't speak two countries. Shucks!

I will say you should learn at least basic spanish. My mongering improved 100, after I was able to speak spanish and portuguese. I am now about 25% speaking those 2 languages. There is just no replacement for being able to talk to the girls when you interview them, and when you take them to dinner or a disco. Sure, your paying them, but it makes it more GFE and they will come see you again for cheaper. Hell, if you live there for a few months, they might see you for free after a while. Start with the book- Spanish in 10 minutes a day. It will give you the most important words, and from there you can move on to more advanced books.

[QUOTE=You69Me;1206300]When I'm back home I will up a picture so you can see for your self.[/QUOTE]I just returned from Medellin. I did in fact stay at Frank's Place. I hate it when others attempt to speak for me or put words in my mouth. The only thing I want in my mouth is Colombian Pussy. Here is the story, when Frank has nobody staying at his place, he turns the lights off. I just returned. It is clean, very well furnished. Two working bathrooms. One shower with electric heat for hot shower. Very secure. It has wall safes in every room. Flat screen tv and a full kitchen with utensils for cooking. BUT who gives a shit. It is right on the strip. It is safe and convenient to Mayo pussy. Mayo pussy may not be for everyone. I understand that. I personally speak Spanish and have some amignovias to fill my time when I was not hunting mayo pussy. Also had one girl from Fase Dos over and she did not seem offended by the accommodations. So again guys, different strokes for different folks. But Frank's is just fine. If you don't speak Spanish the "gringo" paradise of Parque or Poblado or Centro may be better for you. The restaurants are gringo friendly. Other than Casa Blanca you are still going to have to go to the casas and get the girls.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1206477]I will say you should learn at least basic spanish. My mongering improved 100, after I was able to speak spanish and portuguese. I am now about 25% speaking those 2 languages. There is just no replacement for being able to talk to the girls when you interview them, and when you take them to dinner or a disco. Sure, your paying them, but it makes it more GFE and they will come see you again for cheaper. Hell, if you live there for a few months, they might see you for free after a while. Start with the book- Spanish in 10 minutes a day. It will give you the most important words, and from there you can move on to more advanced books.[/QUOTE]Completely concur speaking works

My first trip to Colombia in 2006, just had the basis, but after deciding to go to DR, in 2010, went on a crash course of Pimslur CD's. And the difference was 1000 percent, not with the Pro's because I am tired of those girls but just the friendliness of going to the store, beach or walking about talking with the people.

4 years ago I decided to only go the Dating site route and whichever city I am going to I join their dating forum and meet the women through these, not for the "quanity" guy who wants the most bang for their buck, but I stay a month now in these countries, and I let the women pick my profile and send a interest and then I write them.

This shows me who likes my looks, and not vice versa, I must state clearly. 99% of the guys on this site will hate this idea, but about 10 years ago, my interest in Pro's died, I just couldn't get the "meter ticking " sound out of me head when they were with me.

So last year in DR worked great, met only 2 in person from the site, went to their cities, had a great time,

For my trip to MDE, in May 2012, doing the same thing.

Talking with 3 right now by webchat (spanish lessons for free) and having a blast, one from Bogota, Cali and Bello, Antioquia.

I'm able to speak spanish better then understand it, I don't know why, but they're very patient

So hit the lessons and have a blast.

This trup for my 50th, will include a month in MDE, with a side trip for 9 days to Buenos Aires, can't wait

Nowrath

I read here that most of the girls from the dating sites want money too. Arent you paying them in some way?

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1206723]No argument there.

But looks trumps language ability, IMO.

I'd trade my spanish speaking ability for looks in a heartbeat.

I'm just saying, if you are a good looking guy you don't need to work at it in Colombia, that's for sure. If you're good looking and speak spanish, well, I guess you could date Miss Colombia, seriously.[/QUOTE]Looks like I'll soon be dating Miss Colombia then.

Seriously though, IMO, Looks get your foot in the door for sure, but if you're a dud, and / or can't communicate, well then, you're still limited,

I see it all the time.

Luckily I'm hot and a Ricky Ricardo, spanish speaking fool :)

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1206755]I read here that most of the girls from the dating sites want money too. Arent you paying them in some way?[/QUOTE]After a few mails and a phone call you will soon realize what is going on.

Inviting a woman for lunch dinner etc will cost you about 8'000 pesos in "Poblado"

Or go to the "San Diego" mall in "Expediciones"

Everywhere you will see stunning natural woman.

Try to find an educated woman without kids.

All women of all countries want money! Thats why I love working girls at least there up front with it. Wives and girlfriends rob you over time and then leave you and you can't believe it. Thats why I love working women, I get what I want and usually have a great time with them and as long as I want to keep them I can. Its a win win situation!

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1206755]I read here that most of the girls from the dating sites want money too. Arent you paying them in some way?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1206723]No argument there.

But looks trumps language ability, IMO.

I'd trade my spanish speaking ability for looks in a heartbeat.

I'm just saying, if you are a good looking guy you don't need to work at it in Colombia, that's for sure. If you're good looking and speak spanish, well, I guess you could date Miss Colombia, seriously.[/QUOTE]Here we go again with the Looks vs _____ argument. AGAIN! Let me throw Ace trump now to stop this before it gets petty. Palermo has a point Looks are turmp for most part. Like in life it is better to be well balanced than it is to be a specialist in one area. I think I saw on Nat Geo channel or some junk that highly specialized species die out first because they can't adapt; vs the well balanced animal that can roll with the changes in environment.

Would I like to be tall (over 6") and handsome like Leonardo DeCaprio? HELL YES! But I'm not so to BALANCE this out I have developed strong language skills (minor in College best investment in myself I ever made!) fun and positive personality, sharp sense of humor (able to make jokes and understand them in Spaish, true test of your language comprehension and execution IMO) , dress nice but not like a D-bag, well groomed, and thanks to my mom and dad I am (with all due) a fairly handsome guy with a nice smile.

Do the best with what you have. What can you change? What can't you change? Take a hard look at yourself and see where you can improve. This is how you develop "Game".

Not too hard guys. I just saved some of ya'll $29. 95 on some Bullshit self-help book! LOL!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1206862]Looks like I'll soon be dating Miss Colombia then.

Seriously though, IMO, Looks get your foot in the door for sure, but if you're a dud, and / or can't communicate, well then, you're still limited,

I see it all the time.

Luckily I'm hot and a Ricky Ricardo, spanish speaking fool.[/QUOTE]Only you could come up with that blast from the past. LOL

[QUOTE=You Can;1206934]All women of all countries want money! Thats why I love working girls at least there up front with it. Wives and girlfriends rob you over time and then leave you and you can't believe it. Thats why I love working women, I get what I want and usually have a great time with them and as long as I want to keep them I can. Its a win win situation![/QUOTE]Amen brother.

Here is how you pick up women. Watch and learn: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMOJMth4gKY[/url]

[QUOTE=You69Me;1206917]Inviting a woman for lunch dinner etc will cost you about 8'000 pesos in "Poblado"[/QUOTE]Maybe you meant the taxi-fare from el hueco to parque lleras.

Nowrath.

Just curious as to which site works best for you. Colombia Cupid did not work well for me.

Also which are you using for video chat? Skype?

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1206712]Completely concur speaking works

My first trip to Colombia in 2006, just had the basis, but after deciding to go to DR, in 2010, went on a crash course of Pimslur CD's. And the difference was 1000 percent, not with the Pro's because I am tired of those girls but just the friendliness of going to the store, beach or walking about talking with the people.

4 years ago I decided to only go the Dating site route and whichever city I am going to I join their dating forum and meet the women through these, not for the "quanity" guy who wants the most bang for their buck, but I stay a month now in these countries, and I let the women pick my profile and send a interest and then I write them.

This shows me who likes my looks, and not vice versa, I must state clearly. 99% of the guys on this site will hate this idea, but about 10 years ago, my interest in Pro's died, I just couldn't get the "meter ticking " sound out of me head when they were with me.

So last year in DR worked great, met only 2 in person from the site, went to their cities, had a great time,

For my trip to MDE, in May 2012, doing the same thing.

Talking with 3 right now by webchat (spanish lessons for free) and having a blast, one from Bogota, Cali and Bello, Antioquia.

I'm able to speak spanish better then understand it, I don't know why, but they're very patient

So hit the lessons and have a blast.

This trup for my 50th, will include a month in MDE, with a side trip for 9 days to Buenos Aires, can't wait

Nowrath[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1207225]Jesus. 8,000 pesos for dinner for 2 in Poblado? You must take your dates dumpster diving.

Reef.[/QUOTE]8, 000 pesos is the price for one full lunch

Sometime you pay only 15, 000 pesos for 2 people.

In many of these old buildings which are restaurants now.

In poblado including everything.

Colombia is ¨bery espensive¨

Cosmetics electronics gas taxis.

Go to stores and see for your self

Hotels and prostitutes are cheap.

Latinlovesearch and badoo worked good for me.

Colombians like social networking

I have seen many using FC

MSM has a translator.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1207400]Nowrath.

Just curious as to which site works best for you. Colombia Cupid did not work well for me.

Also which are you using for video chat? Skype?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1207038]Make sure you tell us how your date goes Ricker, you lucky handsome bugger!

I just had a dinner date with a crazy hot calena who spoke perfect english, which confirms my belief that it's a bad thing, as she had lived in the states and has been 'corrupted', IMO.

Now I know I don't have any game and another guy might have had a shot with her, but I got nowhere, and I am 99% sure she just loves going to nice restaurants at the expense of awestruck gringos like me.

I told her I was looking for an apt and she rattled off the details of a few that she seemed to know quite well, like which ones had jacuzzis, but when I asked her how she knew so much about these hotel rooms she said she stayed in them while her apt was being refurbed. Yeah right!

Dinner cost me about the price of 2 prepagos, LOL. I will never learn.[/QUOTE]Coming from the US you might have the wrong idea what a real woman should be.

Look for a humble loving caring woman.

There are plenty here

[QUOTE=HelpRules; 1207111]Here is how you pick up women. Watch and learn:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMOJMth4gKY[/url][/QUOTE]You don't pickup a woman. You conquer her.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1207400]Nowrath.

Just curious as to which site works best for you. Colombia Cupid did not work well for me.

Also which are you using for video chat? Skype?[/QUOTE]EstebanH.

I've always used the Cupid one's Dominican when I went there and Colombia here and LatinAmerica also.

But I must emphasis I use them as a way for me to get know the country, rather then get laid.

Yes as other members have stated Pro's work these sites, but their easy to pick out just from there profile pic's.

Half of the photo's are probably taken by customers after the deed.

On DRcupid, met two great women last year one 20 year old from Santo Domingo and a 38 year old from Santiago, one on the morning and on my return trip to met the other one at night, and then later they both visited me

But let me perfectly clear, I use them as a way for me to know someone there before I get there, all the women I have met in person had jobs, the 38 year old had kids, they could be talking with 100 more guys, I don't know, but went in April 2011 and I'm still talking with the 38 year old almost everyday by MSN or yahoo, she has a webcam and it's great spanish lessons for me, also has not asked me for a penny.

I have also used SKYPE to talk with a woman in Bogota, very clear transmission and used my MSN to talk with one in Barrancabermeja also very clear could see and hear them both perfectly, one had a laptop the other desktop.

Hope this helps

Nowrath

[QUOTE=You Can;1206934]All women of all countries want money! Thats why I love working girls at least there up front with it. Wives and girlfriends rob you over time and then leave you and you can't believe it. Thats why I love working women, I get what I want and usually have a great time with them and as long as I want to keep them I can. Its a win win situation![/QUOTE]Grasshoppers: there is no such thing as free pussy. Say it 1000 thousand times. Believe it. Live it. You will be closer to enlightenment.

Only good energy!

Palermo old buddy, I know you 'got game'. I saw that in Cali back in March. You were knocking out the chicas then. Plus with your good Spanish and being guapo, you've got a good combo. Don't use that word grotesque. By the way is your PM working, I want to send you a message.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1206723]No argument there.

But looks trumps language ability, IMO.

I'd trade my spanish speaking ability for looks in a heartbeat.

I'm just saying, if you are a good looking guy you don't need to work at it in Colombia, that's for sure. If you're good looking and speak spanish, well, I guess you could date Miss Colombia, seriously.[/QUOTE]

I meant Rahzuh on my last post I was ageeing with you I worded it wrong,

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1207474]Grasshoppers: there is no such thing as free pussy. Say it 1000 thousand times. Believe it. Live it. You will be closer to enlightenment.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]Legal Tender:

You crack me up! I paid a girl to say it a thousand times for me! It is so true. There is no free pussy. One way or another we pay for it. Dinner, movies, backgammon (just going off another mongers post) and such! I am going back down in 9 days and can't wait. Just a long weekend for the Halloween bash that BBROC is having.

Enjoy the funny pix, says it all!

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1207225]Jesus. 8,000 pesos for dinner for 2 in Poblado? You must take your dates dumpster diving.

Reef.[/QUOTE]That or 3 Chuzos! Jajaja LOL. Toss the nasty arepa!

A lot of funny Dr. Phil Casanovas on here.

The Colombian forum has become a good source for amusement!! je je je lol You gotta laugh it off or what? Your not going to let it bother you.. "No le pares bolas"

The women no matter what the price in Medellin captivate me. True the non pros seem to get more out me than the pros, I try not to think about spent money, indirect or direct, life is too short, The women of the USA have destroyed me mentally so attemting to reinvent myself. These forums seem to have a lot of put down artist that remind me of the USA women. The colombian female won't do this to me, Because I can't understand them even if they do, Jaja. I'm not saying be stupid with your money, all I'm saying if its within 20000 pesos don't waste your thoughts go on to the next experience.

[QUOTE=You69Me;1207467]You don't pickup a woman. You conquer her.[/QUOTE]The new "guru" of ISG with 27 reports? Who is this guy? Thank you for your widom my master, load of crap.

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1207459]8, 000 pesos is the price for one full lunch

Sometime you pay only 15, 000 pesos for 2 people.

In many of these old buildings which are restaurants now.

In poblado including everything.

Colombia is ¨bery espensive¨

Cosmetics electronics gas taxis.

Go to stores and see for your self

Hotels and prostitutes are cheap.[/QUOTE]Colombia is "bery expensive", from the new "guru" of ISG. Learn how to spell fool before you try to become an expert in Colombia-Medellin with 27 reports. Next time you try to describe My Place without seeing it or going to my Web page stick your tongue up your ass.

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Combo; 1206414]If you're only in town for a week or so, having a relationship with a Paisa is very unlikely. Especially, if you don't speak Spanish. Yes, there are.

Nice girls in MDE and some of them even speak English, but how exactly is a typical vacationing foreigner going to find them and befriend them?

Chasing non-pros can be fun, and many of us do it in the States. But doing it on a vacation in MDE is problematical, even if you look like Clooney / Pitt / etc.

Assuming that HelpRules is going to be in MDE for a week or so, and knowing that he speaks no Espanol, he may as well go where play-for-pay is easiest.

Save the non-Pros for when he returns home.[/QUOTE]Let me clear this up. I don't think I'm dashing (and I apologize to those who took offense at describing my appearance as its probably unnecessary).

I'm OKAY with p4p. Thats why I mentioned 'Mansion', as in Casa Blanca. The only reason why I said anything about my age is because I wanted to know if I will be out of place at Casa blanca. I don't know Spanish (I do however know basic Spanish NOT conversational). I am going to be learning a little more before I depart. But I already know that speaking Spanish will def. Help increase the odds if you want a non pro. But me, I don't plan on going non-pro. I've seen what Casa Blanca is about, and trust me, I'm all for it!

Anyways, to reiterate. I want to know if a 25 something like me will be out of place hanging out / staying in any of the Casa |Blanca rooms with girls readily available. I only P4P because it is exciting, and something different. And saves a lot of time hunting.

Now gentlemen, I only came on this forum and asked these questions because this is a discussion forum, and based on previous posts, I thought we were supposed to help each other out. If I had been to Colombia I'd definitely help out a newbie (experienced Cuba goer, and have contributed, AND helped those seeking).

I know there are lots of people here that are willing to help.

Thanks again.

And FYI. I'm not American

[QUOTE=Rafzuh; 1208204]Let me clear this up. I don't think I'm dashing (and I apologize to those who took offense at describing my appearance as its probably unnecessary).

I'm OKAY with p4p. Thats why I mentioned 'Mansion', as in Casa Blanca. The only reason why I said anything about my age is because I wanted to know if I will be out of place at Casa blanca. I don't know Spanish (I do however know basic Spanish NOT conversational). I am going to be learning a little more before I depart. But I already know that speaking Spanish will def. Help increase the odds if you want a non pro. But me, I don't plan on going non-pro. I've seen what Casa Blanca is about, and trust me, I'm all for it!

Anyways, to reiterate. I want to know if a 25 something like me will be out of place hanging out / staying in any of the Casa |Blanca rooms with girls readily available. I only P4P because it is exciting, and something different. And saves a lot of time hunting.

Now gentlemen, I only came on this forum and asked these questions because this is a discussion forum, and based on previous posts, I thought we were supposed to help each other out. If I had been to Colombia I'd definitely help out a newbie (experienced Cuba goer, and have contributed, AND helped those seeking).

I know there are lots of people here that are willing to help.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.

[QUOTE=PapaMac; 1208227]Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.[/QUOTE]I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.

[QUOTE=BigTennis;1208398]I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.[/QUOTE]8 Classes at university? That's Span 101-202 (4 classes total) and 4 more in advanced culture, literature, or grammar. I certainly hope you picked up some Spanish after 4 years in class LOL! My Spanish minor was 12 classes (two abroad) and it was the best investment I've ever made in myself!

Newbies, rookies, even OG in country mongers. Learn REAL Spanish and your world will OPEN UP to almost LIMITLESS possibilities in Spanish speaking countries with women!

I have had the blessings and good fortune to have pulled many waitresses, bartenders, casino dealers and floor staff, coffee shop girls both working and guests, girls in the mall, night clubs, and even on the street waiting for the bus. My fave scores were the girls working in the service (Non Sex) industry because they get hit on all the time so they are very guarded and sometimes instructed to not to go out with customers. It's the challenge and courtship I guess you can call it that I enjoy with non-pros. While some of my "coffee shop" might not have been as hot, pretty, or sexy as some of the Pre-Pagos I've been with they have been more memorable because of the "Trill of the Hunt", the risk of failure (there has been PLENTY of failure!) , and the feeling of accomplishment. Having $80K in your back pocket for a TLN is also a good insurance policy too! Hahaha.

NOTE: I am not trying to brag or get all "Dear Penthouse" or "My game is the best" it's not. But I want to use my experiences to illustrate how important a the gift of gab is in ANY LANGUAGE! So if you're serious about it LEARN DECENT SPANISH!

[QUOTE=BigTennis;1208398]I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.[/QUOTE]Grasshoppers: there is no such thing as free pussy. Say it 1000 thousand times. Believe it. Live it. You will be closer to enlightenment.

Only good energy

It seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which I consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, I must be much dumber than I suspected, Does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and I only stress this because, yes Looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there,

[QUOTE=PapaMac; 1208227]Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.[/QUOTE]Thank you. THANK YOU!

I have other questions, but more in regards to the Casa itself. So I will post in the casa blanca section. However, I'll bring it up here as well.

I was planning to leave on the 12th for 4 nights, but looks like casa I and II are booked solid. Spoke to Alexa and she says that its possible to accommodate me in II on the 13th. I know this has been brought up MANY times, but I believe there is a difference in I and II, correct?

Also, I'm flying out of Ontario Canada, and my flight (at least 1 stop) is about $1k! Does anyone know any travel sites where I can grab a good deal?

Thanks again.

"it seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which i consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, i must be much dumber than i suspected, does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and i only stress this because, yes looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there."

spanish is a very easy language to learn at a basic level. very clear pronunciation rules and, for a native english speaker, virtually the same alphabet. also there are lots of cognates. so, as can readily be seen by your posting history, you have a room temperature iq at best and this likely explains your lack of success with the language.

for those who are slightly more gifted, listening to spanish radio in your takes no actual study time and does sink in after a while. boring and vapid, but even more effective, is watching spanish soap operas (telenovelas). watching a mix of english tv with spanish subtitles and spanish tv with english subtitles is also a good way to learn. or buy an english language and spanish language newspaper from the same date and location. then once you get a bit of background, write down unfamiliar words you see on the street and look them up later.

reading simple novels like treasure island, the adventures of tom sawyer, and rain man was helpful to me as i advanced in skill. i already knew the plot so i could glean the meaning of some unfamiliar words without stopping to look them up. this helped build my reading speed once i was already fairly fluid in my speech.

then at some point you have to immerse yourself in situations where you cannot fall back on your native language. spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no english.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1208519]Spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no English.[/QUOTE]This was exactly the way I learned. I arrived in Bogota in 2004 with very limited Spanish. I have never taken a formal Spanish class, but years of chasing skirt from Costa Rica to Argentina gave priceless practice, and fine-tuned my ear to various regional accents. Dealing with girls with NO ENGLISH was the only way to go.

Of course, this was my third active language, not second, which made learning easier.

[QUOTE=Rafzuh; 1208518]Thank you. THANK YOU!

Does anyone know any travel sites where I can grab a good deal?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.spirit.com[/url]

$572. 60 if you leave on 14th and come back on 22nd. Flight leaves from Niagara Falls. American side; (

[quote=dickhead; 1208519]"it seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which i consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, i must be much dumber than i suspected, does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and i only stress this because, yes looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there."

spanish is a very easy language to learn at a basic level. very clear pronunciation rules and, for a native english speaker, virtually the same alphabet. also there are lots of cognates. so, as can readily be seen by your posting history, you have a room temperature iq at best and this likely explains your lack of success with the language.

for those who are slightly more gifted, listening to spanish radio in your takes no actual study time and does sink in after a while. boring and vapid, but even more effective, is watching spanish soap operas (telenovelas). watching a mix of english tv with spanish subtitles and spanish tv with english subtitles is also a good way to learn. or buy an english language and spanish language newspaper from the same date and location. then once you get a bit of background, write down unfamiliar words you see on the street and look them up later.

reading simple novels like treasure island, the adventures of tom sawyer, and rain man was helpful to me as i advanced in skill. i already knew the plot so i could glean the meaning of some unfamiliar words without stopping to look them up. this helped build my reading speed once i was already fairly fluid in my speech.

then at some point you have to immerse yourself in situations where you cannot fall back on your native language. spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no english.[/quote]hey, listen to me dickhead (i am having fun writing this to someone who calls himself dickhead lol) ,

i too have been struggling with these issues. i have tried community college courses, tapes, computer courses. by far the most sucessful for me has been my one-on-one skype internet lessons. i have a lady in ecuador that i take lessons with. i pay her $8. 00 per hour. she is a professional spanish teacher with 12 years of experience. the advantages of doing it this way are numerous. you get instant feedback on everything with a a very friendly and encouraging person. you learn at your own pace. when i first started, i could barely string a sentence together. now, at the beginning of every lesson we spend about 10 minutes of everyday chit-chat (like you would have with a chica you just met). i now hold normal conversations in spanish. at her price point, i will continue to take lessons for a long, long time. if you would like contact info, please send me a private message.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1208795]Hey, listen to me dickhead (I am having fun writing this to someone who calls himself dickhead LOL) ,

I too have been struggling with these issues. I have tried community college courses, tapes, computer courses. By far the most sucessful for me has been my one-on-one Skype Internet lessons. I have a lady in Ecuador that I take lessons with. I pay her $8. 00 per hour. She is a professional Spanish teacher with 12 years of experience. The advantages of doing it this way are numerous. You get instant feedback on everything with a a very friendly and encouraging person. You learn at your own pace. When I first started, I could barely string a sentence together. Now, at the beginning of every lesson we spend about 10 minutes of everyday chit-chat (like you would have with a chica you just met). I now hold normal conversations in Spanish. At her price point, I will continue to take lessons for a long, long time. If you would like contact info, please send me a private message.[/QUOTE]Why not befriend a girl online that lives in a spanish speaking country and talk to her on Skype and save the $8 an hour for buying more pussy. I have two girls I speak with on Skype, one of which I speak to every night for about two hours. It has helped me tremendously.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1208799]Why not befriend a girl online that lives in a spanish speaking country and talk to her on Skype and save the $8 an hour for buying more pussy. I have two girls I speak with on Skype, one of which I speak to every night for about two hours. It has helped me tremendously.[/QUOTE]$8USD an hour? That girl is stoked! Tax free that's more than most people make an hour in the USA take home. AND she didn't have to put some dude's wrinkled balls in her mouth!

Language is alive you have to experience it to truly lean it. Like when you were a kid; mom or dad just tossed the kids into the pool to teach them to swim. Same thing!

In my experience, most girls I've met don't have 24/7 internet access. How have you overcome this issue? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1208799]Why not befriend a girl online that lives in a spanish speaking country and talk to her on Skype and save the $8 an hour for buying more pussy. I have two girls I speak with on Skype, one of which I speak to every night for about two hours. It has helped me tremendously.[/QUOTE]

You could pay $8 an hour to a professional Spanish teacher or you could learn by chatting with random native speakers. The former could result in learning very good Spanish while the latter could result in talking like a homey from the hood. I learned Spanish on the streets and when I later took some formal classes, I realized that not only was my grammar not very good but that I did not know what slang was acceptable vs. rather rude. So I think Esteban's approach is a good one and Manizales' is sort of a fall back position if $8 per hour is a lot of money to a particular person at a particular time in their life. However, and perhaps importantly, how do we define a "professional" Spanish teacher? I am certified to teach ESL (English as a second language) so I suppose that makes me a "professional" English teacher. I am [B]not[/B] certified to teach Spanish. However, I have been a lot more successful in teaching English speakers to speak Spanish than I have been in teaching Spanish speakers to speak English. I've taught a lot of things over the years and I would sure hope that $8 an hour would not be viewed as excessive for a highly qualified person. I caught two students buying a paper from a paper mill in India and I caught them because a) the paper was so good and b) the two assholes bought the same paper. A lot of things pissed me off about this incident but the fact they paid the guy $2 an hour pissed me off more than anything.

Agreed, a combination of "throw yourself in the pool" by simply talking as much as possible with the natives along with formal classes is a great two-pronged approach. Getting into "trapped" situations, such as riding in a bus or collectivo and striking up a conversation, bullshitting with a cab driver, or best yet, long-time pillow talk with a chica has provided me at least one word or phrase per conversation that was new to me. Also agree that while conversation with las desecuadas is simple, spanish has so many levels, the various subjunctive clauses, pluperfect, imperative, etc that can be very daunting at first. To me, it's been like a series of doors. I walk through one door, then realize there's another in front of me. Thousands of colloqualisms and expressions, different ones in each country. All the while you work on your gringo accent with the are's and the's.

The thing that really made me take quantum leaps in spanish was immersion classes, two in Costa rica, one in Cartagena. They are expensive, but worth every penny. A good immersion school will challenge you, put you past your level of comfort, but in a fun way. And 8 hours a day listening to spanish really forms new pathways in the brain. Turning on spanish subtitles on the latina telenovelas has been an education, once watched the entire Rosario Tijares soap opera from Medellin. Though I've found that all criminals in telenovelas talk very fast and speak really crappy spanish, but you'll pick up some interesting dirty words!

Reading books can be difficult as I've found that written spanish can diverge from spoken spanish much more than english. But try books for adolescents, they're easier to read, but still challenging. Cuidad de las Bestias by Isabella Allende was very interesting.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1208891]You could pay $8 an hour to a professional Spanish teacher or you could learn by chatting with random native speakers. The former could result in learning very good Spanish while the latter could result in talking like a homey from the hood. I learned Spanish on the streets and when I later took some formal classes, I realized that not only was my grammar not very good but that I did not know what slang was acceptable vs. rather rude. So I think Esteban's approach is a good one and Manizales' is sort of a fall back position if $8 per hour is a lot of money to a particular person at a particular time in their life.[/QUOTE]

Anyone in Medellin right now has a report to share. I'd love to hear from you. Learning Spanish is NOT my favorite subject.

[QUOTE=Sammytheman; 1208537][url]Http://www.spirit.com[/url]

$572. 60 if you leave on 14th and come back on 22nd. Flight leaves from Niagara Falls. American side; ([/QUOTE]Sammy. You The MAN!

I certainly am not taking a pro to dinner and I enjoy taking fine girls to dinner before and after I make sweet love to them!

Why would I not pay for a cab for a sweet girl I just made love to. Pro or non pro.

I enjoy buying a girl a few outfits and makeup for gifts. I'm not poor and I think I might fall into that 1 percent that union workers and Obama luvers hate so much!

I took about 25 credit hours at a university. I have been out of the country and into spanish speaking countries on average 2 months for the last 13 years. I also employ spanish speaking (no ingles) workers here in the states and communicate with them on a daily basis. My spanish, looks and picking up non pros is advanced!

[QUOTE=BigTennis; 1209650]I certainly am not taking a pro to dinner and I enjoy taking fine girls to dinner before and after I make sweet love to them!

Why would I not pay for a cab for a sweet girl I just made love to. Pro or non pro.

I enjoy buying a girl a few outfits and makeup for gifts. I'm not poor and I think I might fall into that 1 percent that union workers and Obama luvers hate so much![/QUOTE]I'm not sure I get the point of your post here Señor Tennis, other than letting the members of this board know that you are a 1%'er in your third post, big fucking deal.

[QUOTE=BigTennis; 1209650]I certainly am not taking a pro to dinner and I enjoy taking fine girls to dinner before and after I make sweet love to them!

Why would I not pay for a cab for a sweet girl I just made love to. Pro or non pro.

I enjoy buying a girl a few outfits and makeup for gifts. I'm not poor and I think I might fall into that 1 percent that union workers and Obama luvers hate so much![/QUOTE]Those in the one percent don't have to advertise that status.

[QUOTE=BigTennis; 1209650]I certainly am not taking a pro to dinner and I enjoy taking fine girls to dinner before and after I make sweet love to them!

Why would I not pay for a cab for a sweet girl I just made love to. Pro or non pro.

I enjoy buying a girl a few outfits and makeup for gifts. I'm not poor and I think I might fall into that 1 percent that union workers and Obama luvers hate so much![/QUOTE]Before AND after, huh? How many dinners do you eat?

No one dislikes you because you make 350K+, that's probably not even true. You do, however, employ illegal immigrants and use your "affluence" to travel to third-world countries to pay poor girls for sex, two truly commendable traits!

I love guys who come here to talk themselves up, maybe instead of paying for a blowjob you should pay for a hug and a pat on the back. So far a couple posts and zero relevant info, awesome, thanks!

Was just in MDE, had the GF with me so no action but I did see nice lineups at Energy and New Life while saying Hello, to a friend. In San Andres now, weather is finally beautiful. I'll be here a while, anyone who wants info let me know, same goes for Santa Marta (posted this in the CTG forum as well) as I've spent a lot of time there.

[QUOTE=BigTennis;1209654]. My spanish, looks and picking up non pros is advanced![/QUOTE]Well I certainly do admire you, are there any 'how to' books in the works to help the rest of us to the advanced level? Thanks!

[QUOTE=BigTennis;1209654]I took about 25 credit hours at a university. I have been out of the country and into spanish speaking countries on average 2 months for the last 13 years. I also employ spanish speaking (no ingles) workers here in the states and communicate with them on a daily basis. My spanish, looks and picking up non pros is advanced![/QUOTE]You sound like another beloved member on here who loved to brag about his pick up skills, money he had, good looks, non pros and freebies. Coincidentally he as well loved to play tennis. Hmmmmm

Men allways dress as nice as you can, try to remain open minder and generally happy, theres nothing more gratifying than finding a beautiful women that is attracted to you, you can increase the odds ten fold with your upbeat attitude, forget all the negative vibes and get out there, have the mindset that you are experimenting so there there is no failure, this advice is for nonpros.

It goes for pros too! A looooooooooooooooooooong long way! And that no bullshit!

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1209956]Men allways dress as nice as you can, try to remain open minder and generally happy, theres nothing more gratifying than finding a beautiful women that is attracted to you, you can increase the odds ten fold with your upbeat attitude, forget all the negative vibes and get out there, have the mindset that you are experimenting so there there is no failure, this advice is for nonpros.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1209994]It goes for pros too! A looooooooooooooooooooong long way! And that no bullshit![/QUOTE]Of course, this is nothing new, or rocket science. It's just plain common sense and been discussed many times before.

Like I said! If it was rocket science, I would not be on this board. But believe me some people just don't get it. But I am not mad at them!

[QUOTE=Ricker;1210021]Of course, this is nothing new, or rocket science. It's just plain common sense and been discussed many times before.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1210073]Come on Ricker, don't burst Baca's bubble. He has these epiphany's every once in a while and just HAS to share them. Next week's episode: "Bacano discovers toothpaste!"

Reef.[/QUOTE]Episode 2:2 BACANO leaves his mothers basement, discovers daylight and " Wow, there is a whole another world besides World of Warcraft!"

i want to introduce myself. i'm gary. 50's, tall, slim, educated, excellent condition, investment sales, now colorado skier, biking mountains. i have been studying (alone) spanish for two years to prepare! coming to medellin solo, on 11-23 12-12 to determine if i want to live there. i just finished 6 mos. of reading all the blogs from #300 to present. 100 hours. whoo!

mongering: my experience is in the south florida strip-clubs where, can you believe i had 3500 lap dances over ten years (usd$80k). full contact with 'hands up' (on). orgasims most nights. last year. 10 days / 10 girls in san salvador. brothel and strip bar (s) each day / night. price $1 per min. girls looks; i had all 8's and 9's, stunning, and i'm real fussy. i'd even rate a 10 on two of the ten girls if they were taller. most actitudes were excellent. very pleasantly surprised with that! bbbbj the norm. no propina. excellent! of course san salvador itself is only safe in very very limited areas. virtualy no walking the city anyplace, and i'm not nervous. .

so now medellin! i have a penthouse. 8th floor in pablado / sandiego.

ayuda: 1.) not much talked / resolved about **** girls and the law? 2.) anybody on safety / experiences in and around the centro strip-clubs? 3.) is there allot of police shake downs?

thanks for all the blog info! sincerely; gary

[quote=gary1; 1210211]i want to introduce myself. i'm gary. 50's, tall, slim, educated, excellent condition, investment sales, now colorado skier, biking mountains. i have been studying (alone) spanish for two years to prepare! coming to medellin solo, on 11-23 12-12 to determine if i want to live there. i just finished 6 mos. of reading all the blogs from #300 to present. 100 hours. whoo!

mongering: my experience is in the south florida strip-clubs where, can you believe i had 3500 lap dances over ten years (usd$80k). full contact with 'hands up' (on). orgasims most nights. last year. 10 days / 10 girls in san salvador. brothel and strip bar (s) each day / night. price $1 per min. girls looks; i had all 8's and 9's, stunning, and i'm real fussy. i'd even rate a 10 on two of the ten girls if they were taller. most actitudes were excellent. very pleasantly surprised with that! bbbbj the norm. no propina. excellent! of course san salvador itself is only safe in very very limited areas. virtualy no walking the city anyplace, and i'm not nervous. .

so now medellin! i have a penthouse. 8th floor in pablado / sandiego.

ayuda: 1.) not much talked / resolved about **** girls and the law? 2.) anybody on safety / experiences in and around the centro strip-clubs? 3.) is there allot of police shake downs?

thanks for all the blog info! sincerely; gary[/quote]gary,

i hope you are not asking if it is legal to bang **** girls. it is not. if you are of that persuasion (i hope you are not) , you are a sick low-life fuck and admin should revoke your membership.

[quote=gary1; 1210211]i want to introduce myself. i'm gary. 50's, tall, slim, educated, excellent condition, investment sales, now colorado skier, biking mountains. i have been studying (alone) spanish for two years to prepare! coming to medellin solo, on 11-23 12-12 to determine if i want to live there. i just finished 6 mos. of reading all the blogs from #300 to present. 100 hours. whoo!

mongering: my experience is in the south florida strip-clubs where, can you believe i had 3500 lap dances over ten years (usd$80k). full contact with 'hands up' (on). orgasims most nights. last year. 10 days / 10 girls in san salvador. brothel and strip bar (s) each day / night. price $1 per min. girls looks; i had all 8's and 9's, stunning, and i'm real fussy. i'd even rate a 10 on two of the ten girls if they were taller. most actitudes were excellent. very pleasantly surprised with that! bbbbj the norm. no propina. excellent! of course san salvador itself is only safe in very very limited areas. virtualy no walking the city anyplace, and i'm not nervous. .

so now medellin! i have a penthouse. 8th floor in pablado / sandiego.

ayuda: 1.) not much talked / resolved about **** girls and the law? 2.) anybody on safety / experiences in and around the centro strip-clubs? 3.) is there allot of police shake downs?

thanks for all the blog info! sincerely; gary[/quote]you will not find such information here however you can very very easily find information on such laws in colombia. it boils down to the fact that you should not mess around with anyone under 18. this is for legal reasons as well as safety reasons. you can find anything but be careful what you wish for, there are risks involved. i would never attempt anything like that and would not recommend anyone else does, obviously.

centro strip clubs are very safe imo, i remember the first time some expats told me about it they were very cautionary. there is no need, they have private security and the streets are empty except for a few crackheads you could push over with a feather. don't linger around and tempt fate but overall you can walk around the area and certainly cab it without fear.

police in colombia treat tourists much better than they do locals. carry identification with you, you will be totally fine. the only way i've seen a bribe solicited is when someone was actually doing something wrong and in that case, hey, it's better to be shaken down than locked up. cops are cool here, they give you directions, they take pictures of you and your girlfriend. you don't see their ugly side as a tourist, but you sure as hell read about it in the newspaper.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1210404]You will not find such information here however you can very very easily find information on such laws in Colombia. It boils down to the fact that you should not mess around with anyone under 18. This is for legal reasons as well as safety reasons. You can find anything but be careful what you wish for, there are risks involved. I would never attempt anything like that and would not recommend anyone else does, obviously.

Centro strip clubs are very safe IMO, I remember the first time some expats told me about it they were very cautionary. There is no need, they have private security and the streets are empty except for a few crackheads you could push over with a feather. Don't linger around and tempt fate but overall you can walk around the area and certainly cab it without fear.

Police in Colombia treat tourists MUCH better than they do locals. Carry identification with you, you will be totally fine. The only way I've seen a bribe solicited is when someone was actually doing something wrong and in that case, hey, it's better to be shaken down than locked up. Cops are cool here, they give you directions, they take pictures of you and your girlfriend. You don't see their ugly side as a tourist, but you sure as hell read about it in the newspaper.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree about Centro strip clubs being VERY safe. I have never seen police there and the private security are the ones I don't trust. Door men at the clubs are too friendly and nosy for such a zombie zone that is not policed. And the crackheads are the ones that might pull a knife out of nowhere. Do not interact with these crackheads and if they get too close step back to establish a comfort zone. Do not walk around there and never take a cab sitting out front of the clubs. Walk to the corner and linger for a minute to make sure you arent followed then hail a cab that just dropped someone off and is leaving. Don't get caught slipping in Centro because you let your guard down. There are some gems working in the clubs but you never know if they are part of the setup. Get their number and bring them to you where you feel more comfortable. I always breeze thru there. Order a beer, check the scene out and before I finish my beer I'm going to the next club. Actually I feel safer in La Mayorista because there are police nearby and more gringos.

I do agree that the police are very respectful. I've been stopped on the street in Envigado going home by police who just frisked me to make sure I didn't have drugs or a weapon, then I was on my way one minute later. No words were talked except hold your hands up for a search.

[quote=wiltthestilt; 1210404]you will not find such information here however you can very very easily find information on such laws in colombia. it boils down to the fact that you should not mess around with anyone under 18. this is for legal reasons as well as safety reasons. you can find anything but be careful what you wish for, there are risks involved. i would never attempt anything like that and would not recommend anyone else does, obviously.

centro strip clubs are very safe imo, i remember the first time some expats told me about it they were very cautionary. there is no need, they have private security and the streets are empty except for a few crackheads you could push over with a feather. don't linger around and tempt fate but overall you can walk around the area and certainly cab it without fear.

police in colombia treat tourists much better than they do locals. carry identification with you, you will be totally fine. the only way i've seen a bribe solicited is when someone was actually doing something wrong and in that case, hey, it's better to be shaken down than locked up. cops are cool here, they give you directions, they take pictures of you and your girlfriend. you don't see their ugly side as a tourist, but you sure as hell read about it in the newspaper.[/quote]i agree here, and why does that guy even bring up the **** girls, dude there's plenty of beautiful chicas 18 and over, or maybe your south florida lap dances should suffice, dios mio!

i wouldn't, however, blow off the potential for danger anywhere in el central at night and state "no need" for cautionary.

experienced and street smart guys, which it seems you are, you're right, can maybe walk around the area with no problem, but just because you've only seen a few crackheads around means nothing, that area is where bad can happen when you're not suspecting it. been there, experienced it.

always keep your eyes open, and keep a pair on the back of you're head too. a little paranoia on the streets of colombia is not a bad thing.

i've been mugged / attempted mugged 4 times in my travels; twice in colombia (el central) , once in venezuela, and once and most recently in brazil, and all 4 times, spaced a few years apart is when i was walking about, whistling dixie, guard down, thinking i was safe with my head up my arshe.

i agree, no problem with taxi in and out of those clubs.

and guys, disculpa my rant about safety in el central, but i don't like to see it's potential for danger downplayed, especially at night.

hi again,

wilt, thanks for the detailed and positive answer to my question (s). great to hear about police. on the **** question. my purpose for the question should be obvious even to the slower bloggers. the problem is the ease inwhich one could end up with an **** girl! a simple fake cedule would do it, or just a girl who looks older, like so many of them do, plus drinking. couple this 'ease' with severe consequences and obvio we have a very important subject worth getting answers to. wilt, believe me i've looked, on-line tells me one thing, but my conversations with my realtor tells me another. a segundo realtor in medellin says it's a non-issue and in reality there is no age limit! problem example; if in a casa, what if it is found the girl is ****? i guess i need to talk to some lawyers for details on the law and the reality of how it actually plays out. interesting: i've read 100's of blogs, some very well expressed, got so much great info, but i also see mixed in the stupid judgments, agnst, and profanity. to me that writer automatically looses credibility for any future comments. is boring, and a waste of time. it's a 'class and education' issue. in my experience 'lashing out' with little provocation usually comes from poor parenting. it's defense (they are insecure) by offense. i can picture their faces when they are writting. sad. what do you guys think? on the ongoing bbbj topic. my opinion, same as one blogger recently wrote. a seccion without bbbj has little value.

gary de colorado

from what i understand, regardless of what country you are in, you are bound by the laws of the us. i don't know what the law is in colombia but i never fool with anyone under the age of 18 and have no desire to.

[quote=gary1; 1210211]i want to introduce myself. i'm gary. 50's, tall, slim, educated, excellent condition, investment sales, now colorado skier, biking mountains. i have been studying (alone) spanish for two years to prepare! coming to medellin solo, on 11-23 12-12 to determine if i want to live there. i just finished 6 mos. of reading all the blogs from #300 to present. 100 hours. whoo!

mongering: my experience is in the south florida strip-clubs where, can you believe i had 3500 lap dances over ten years (usd$80k). full contact with 'hands up' (on). orgasims most nights. last year. 10 days / 10 girls in san salvador. brothel and strip bar (s) each day / night. price $1 per min. girls looks; i had all 8's and 9's, stunning, and i'm real fussy. i'd even rate a 10 on two of the ten girls if they were taller. most actitudes were excellent. very pleasantly surprised with that! bbbbj the norm. no propina. excellent! of course san salvador itself is only safe in very very limited areas. virtualy no walking the city anyplace, and i'm not nervous. .

so now medellin! i have a penthouse. 8th floor in pablado / sandiego.

ayuda: 1.) not much talked / resolved about **** girls and the law? 2.) anybody on safety / experiences in and around the centro strip-clubs? 3.) is there allot of police shake downs?

thanks for all the blog info! sincerely; gary[/quote]

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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1210440]I respectfully disagree about Centro strip clubs being VERY safe. I have never seen police there and the private security are the ones I don't trust. Door men at the clubs are too friendly and nosy for such a zombie zone that is not policed. And the crackheads are the ones that might pull a knife out of nowhere. Do not interact with these crackheads and if they get too close step back to establish a comfort zone. Do not walk around there and never take a cab sitting out front of the clubs. Walk to the corner and linger for a minute to make sure you arent followed then hail a cab that just dropped someone off and is leaving. Don't get caught slipping in Centro because you let your guard down. There are some gems working in the clubs but you never know if they are part of the setup. Get their number and bring them to you where you feel more comfortable. I always breeze thru there. Order a beer, check the scene out and before I finish my beer I'm going to the next club. Actually I feel safer in La Mayorista because there are police nearby and more gringos.

I do agree that the police are very respectful. I've been stopped on the street in Envigado going home by police who just frisked me to make sure I didn't have drugs or a weapon, then I was on my way one minute later. No words were talked except hold your hands up for a search.[/QUOTE]Excellent advise, Ricker's too. I enjoy the clubs in El Centro but I leave before nightfall.

"From what I understand, regardless of what country you are in, you are bound by the laws of the US. I don't know what the law is in Colombia but I never fool with anyone under the age of 18 and have no desire to."

Absolutely true, at least assuming you are a US citizen, regarding this area. It is known as the "doctrine of exterritoriality," in case there is a quiz.

Perhaps saying "very safe" was taking it a bit far however I don't think the private security is an issue. I think it's better to have a cabbie or two in your phone to call for a ride rather than 1) trusting the ones in front (although it's not that big a deal) or 2)"wandering" to the corner.

The crackheads, of course you maintain a safe distance but they are generally harmless, well, not to themselves, but otherwise. Shit can pop off in El Centro but I lived down the street (between those clubs and Parque Periodista) and I walked to / from my apartment almost every night to at least have a drink over there.

I guess rather than "very safe," I would say "safer than advertised," and say that, as always, one should be aware of their surroundings and not venture into anything that feels risky. Otherwise, go in, have a good time, listen to the bad music and stick it in something nice.

As far as the other stuff, the laws in Colombia are ambiguous enough that you could land in a jam and even if not the venues for that sort of thing lend themselves to robberies and worse. Think about it, if a girl XX years old is selling herself on the street, why would she be above burandanga'ing your ass? You don't want that to happen, believe me, I know people who have been victims of that. You will lose more than just what you've got in your pocket and it could have long-term health effects. Girls that desperate need money desperately for poverty, drugs or some combination thereof. Not only is it fucked up from a moral standpoint, it's dangerous from a logistical and a legal perspective.

Besides, with all the petite girls with braces, you can find 18/19 yr olds that look younger anyway. This is a site about men being women and the hobby should be about men being with women. It's exploitative enough withing bringing kids into it for fuck's sake.

[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1210592]"From what I understand, regardless of what country you are in, you are bound by the laws of the US. I don't know what the law is in Colombia but I never fool with anyone under the age of 18 and have no desire to."

Absolutely true, at least assuming you are a US citizen, regarding this area. It is known as the "doctrine of exterritoriality," in case there is a quiz.[/QUOTE]18 USCS § 2423.

§ 2423. Transportation of minors

(a) Transportation with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity. A person who knowingly transports an individual who has not attained the age of 18 years in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any commonwealth, territory or possession of the United States, with intent that the individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 10 years or for life.

(be) Travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct. A person who travels in interstate commerce or travels into the United States, or a United States citizen or an alien admitted for permanent residence in the United States who travels in foreign commerce, for the purpose of engaging in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(see) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(the) Ancillary offenses. Whoever, for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, arranges, induces, procures, or facilitates the travel of a person knowing that such a person is traveling in interstate commerce or foreign commerce for the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(e) Attempt and conspiracy. Whoever attempts or conspires to violate subsection (a) , (be) , (see) , or (the) shall be punishable in the same manner as a completed violation of that subsection.

(f) Definition. As used in this section, the term "illicit sexual conduct" means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246 [18 USCS § 2246]) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A [18 USCS §§ 2241 et seq. ] if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States; or (2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591 [18 USCS § 1591]) with a person under 18 years of age.

(g) Defense. In a prosecution under this section based on illicit sexual conduct as defined in subsection (f) 2) , it is a defense, which the defendant must establish by a preponderance of the evidence, that the defendant reasonably believed that the person with whom the defendant engaged in the commercial sex act had attained the age of 18 years.

I don't go anywhere near el centro after dusk, even in the day you have to have your street smarts at an all time high. These crackhead or interesada mofos would love to fuck with a white, drunken gringo mofo who they automatically presume as to having something of value. Be strong and direct but not a rambo, If they sense weakness they will pounce and want to leech along with you becoming your long lost amigo. I try not to disrespect anybody no matter who it may be, whos to say one if these scumbags wont stab you in the back if they feel disrespected when you're not looking.

If you can't speak fluent spanish and can't comprehend the concept of trying to blend in, do yourself a favor and just stay out you're not missing anything detrimental or that cannot be seen by watching the cantina scene from starwars. I'm not a pussy by any means and that's coming from a guy who can easily walk around the OPA LOCKA or OVERTOWN areas here in MIAMI..

Don't muck with the police, be respectful and offer yourself when asked for frisking. This will happen randomly everywhere. And also when riding in vehicles (even taxis) If they take the shit out of your pockets. With eye contact make it known to the police that you are keeping an eye on your shit. If you spend a lot of time like myself in all parts of Colombia you WILL get shaken down sooner or later.

There are big signs now when you get off the plane in Colombia that if they catch you fucking around with minors they will fuck you up for 30yrs. And if you survive that I'm sure you will be booted back to the US for another 30. Obviously there are enough scumbags there now OR going there that they needed to put the signs up to remind people.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1210646]I don't go anywhere near el centro after dusk, even in the day you have to have your street smarts at an all time high. These crackhead or interesada mofos would love to fuck with a white, drunken gringo mofo who they automatically presume as to having something of value. Be strong and direct but not a rambo, If they sense weakness they will pounce and want to leech along with you becoming your long lost amigo. I try not to disrespect anybody no matter who it may be, whos to say one if these scumbags won't stab you in the back if they feel disrespected when you're not looking.

If you can't speak fluent spanish and can't comprehend the concept of trying to blend in, do yourself a favor and just stay out you're not missing anything detrimental or that cannot be seen by watching the cantina scene from starwars. I'm not a pussy by any means and that's coming from a guy who can easily walk around the OPA LOCKA or OVERTOWN areas here in MIAMI.

Don't muck with the police, be respectful and offer yourself when asked for frisking. This will happen randomly everywhere. And also when riding in vehicles (even taxis) If they take the shit out of your pockets. With eye contact make it known to the police that you are keeping an eye on your shit. If you spend a lot of time like myself in all parts of Colombia you WILL get shaken down sooner or later.

There are big signs now when you get off the plane in Colombia that if they catch you fucking around with minors they will fuck you up for 30yrs. And if you survive that I'm sure you will be booted back to the US for another 30. Obviously there are enough scumbags there now OR going there that they needed to put the signs up to remind people.[/QUOTE]Lmao, 'cantina scene from Star Wars describes it perfectly'. When I exit the cab in El Centro at night its like being on another planet. The funny part is El Centro makes you really appreciate arriving in Mayorista, go figure.

But my only problems of late in Centro have been that clubs like Ejetivo and Maricaibo have bumped thier prices up 10, 000 pesos, OWG

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1210767]But my only problems of late in Centro have been that clubs like Ejetivo and Maricaibo have bumped thier prices up 10, 000 pesos, OWG[/QUOTE]It's been a while. Do you still have to crawl under the bar with your chosen Paisa to for a "more intimate" place at Maricibo?

[quote=gary1; 1210573]hi again,

wilt, thanks for the detailed and positive answer to my question (s). great to hear about police. on the **** question. my purpose for the question should be obvious even to the slower bloggers. the problem is the ease inwhich one could end up with an **** girl! a simple fake cedule would do it, or just a girl who looks older, like so many of them do, plus drinking. couple this 'ease' with severe consequences and obvio we have a very important subject worth getting answers to. wilt, believe me i've looked, on-line tells me one thing, but my conversations with my realtor tells me another. a segundo realtor in medellin says it's a non-issue and in reality there is no age limit! problem example; if in a casa, what if it is found the girl is ****? i guess i need to talk to some lawyers for details on the law and the reality of how it actually plays out. interesting: i've read 100's of blogs, some very well expressed, got so much great info, but i also see mixed in the stupid judgments, agnst, and profanity. to me that writer automatically looses credibility for any future comments. is boring, and a waste of time. it's a 'class and education' issue. in my experience 'lashing out' with little provocation usually comes from poor parenting. it's defense (they are insecure) by offense. i can picture their faces when they are writting. sad. what do you guys think? on the ongoing bbbj topic. my opinion, same as one blogger recently wrote. a seccion without bbbj has little value.

gary de colorado[/quote]let me completely understand. you come with your first post about sneaky shit and you basically get a pass (the whole forum shouldve jumped in you ass, but even i let it slide) , then you come with your second post insulting members education level? i guess we won't be hearing much more from you after your weak approach was rejected. stop thinking about little girls and fuck grown women sir. and you have the nerve to talk about another posters credibility? then you talk about another posters class and education issues? also as far as me now" lashing out" at you, read your second post. we gave you a pass and you "lashed out" at us. what does that say about your parents? its time to change your handle and try again playa, because gary1 has no creditibily, no class, and bad parents.

the best thing you said was that a"bbbj seccion has little value". maybe the university you went to didn't explain how to spell "section".

gogo de isg.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1210808]The best thing you said was that a"BBBJ seccion has little value". Maybe the University you went to didn't explain how to spell "section".

Gogo de ISG.[/QUOTE]Obviously these are two different words with two different meanings.

You two gentlemen were both correct but misunderstood one another. Section in Spanish is seccion with an accent over the o, and session is sesion, again with that accent over the o.

Peace.

[quote=gary1; 1210573]hi again,

on the **** question. my purpose for the question should be obvious even to the slower bloggers. the problem is the ease inwhich one could end up with an **** girl! a simple fake cedule would do it, or just a girl who looks older, like so many of them do, plus drinking. couple this 'ease' with severe consequences and obvio we have a very important subject worth getting answers to.

gary de colorado[/quote]gary,

there are some of us who read this board who are pretty sensitive on this topic. i would never want to be affiliated in any way with a ****. i don't care if its legal or not. its just plain wrong. i have a teenage daughter and i can tell you that she and her friends are not mature enough to make certain decisions that might make a negative impact on their lives. perhaps if you had couched the question in terms of how to avoid the situation, it would have been an appropriate question. obviously, you are not a **** so its no big deal.

[quote=gary1; 1210211]i want to introduce myself. i'm gary. 50's, tall, slim, educated, excellent condition, investment sales, now colorado skier, biking mountains. i have been studying (alone) spanish for two years to prepare! coming to medellin solo, on 11-23 12-12 to determine if i want to live there. i just finished 6 mos. of reading all the blogs from #300 to present. 100 hours. whoo!

mongering: my experience is in the south florida strip-clubs where, can you believe i had 3500 lap dances over ten years (usd$80k). full contact with 'hands up' (on). orgasims most nights. last year. 10 days / 10 girls in san salvador. brothel and strip bar (s) each day / night. price $1 per min. girls looks; i had all 8's and 9's, stunning, and i'm real fussy. i'd even rate a 10 on two of the ten girls if they were taller. most actitudes were excellent. very pleasantly surprised with that! bbbbj the norm. no propina. excellent! of course san salvador itself is only safe in very very limited areas. virtualy no walking the city anyplace, and i'm not nervous. .

so now medellin! i have a penthouse. 8th floor in pablado / sandiego.

ayuda: 1.) not much talked / resolved about **** girls and the law? 2.) anybody on safety / experiences in and around the centro strip-clubs? 3.) is there allot of police shake downs?

thanks for all the blog info! sincerely; gary[/quote]gogo and estiban's writings are representative of the overwhelming majority of members here when it comes to fucking children. ****s are societies' cancer. turning to your original writing, which in part you wrote: "not much talked / resolved about **** girls and the law" it is ambiguous, viewed in the most favorable light. we "slow" posters are not very good mind readers. it would have been easy to simply ask what does a monger do to insure that he doesn't have sex with a girl that cannot legally consent: a child cannot consent. instead of conceding your poorly written post was ambiguous, you attack those who took issue with your question. bottom line is that if you're coming to colombia for the first time with the intention of having sex with children, you have no place on this site.

if you want to be well received here, your generalized derogatory judgments about the education, family background, etc, of the members are not factually based, and certainly not productive. i'm going to give you some free advice. look in the mirror. everyone is entitled to a second chance. i believe in forgiveness and redemption, as i hope most members here do also. and, of course.

only good energy

[quote=gary1; 1210573]hi again,

wilt, thanks for the detailed and positive answer to my question (s). great to hear about police. on the **** question. my purpose for the question should be obvious even to the slower bloggers. the problem is the ease inwhich one could end up with an **** girl! a simple fake cedule would do it, or just a girl who looks older, like so many of them do, plus drinking. couple this 'ease' with severe consequences and obvio we have a very important subject worth getting answers to. wilt, believe me i've looked, on-line tells me one thing, but my conversations with my realtor tells me another. a segundo realtor in medellin says it's a non-issue and in reality there is no age limit! problem example; if in a casa, what if it is found the girl is ****? i guess i need to talk to some lawyers for details on the law and the reality of how it actually plays out. interesting: i've read 100's of blogs, some very well expressed, got so much great info, but i also see mixed in the stupid judgments, agnst, and profanity. to me that writer automatically looses credibility for any future comments. is boring, and a waste of time. it's a 'class and education' issue. in my experience 'lashing out' with little provocation usually comes from poor parenting. it's defense (they are insecure) by offense. i can picture their faces when they are writting. sad. what do you guys think? on the ongoing bbbj topic. my opinion, same as one blogger recently wrote. a seccion without bbbj has little value.

gary de colorado[/quote]take you foot off the pedal here. if you want candid advice, pay your $20 so you can receive pms and see pictures. in general, you're in here for the first time asking for information and learning the rules and mores of the boards. so you have to play your role here for a bit like anywhere else. i'd be happy to help but please can the indignation and armchair psychology.

I'm seaching a Colombian's map of placeas where girls can be founded (Medelin, Bogota.) Do you collect this information?

I've been to Medellin 8 times. 7 of them I've stayed in hotels in El Centro. Walked all over El Centro, from one end to another. Been to the red light districts dozens and dozens of times. Also the strip clubs and casas numerous times.

Never been robbed, hasseled or threatened. I do keep a low profile and walk very forthright and don't linger around too much. I don't stay up late at night, usually in my hotel room by 11pm. But I do think you guys are exaggerating the danger factor in El Centro.

[QUOTE=BayBoy; 1210959]I've been to Medellin 8 times. 7 of them I've stayed in hotels in El Centro. Walked all over El Centro, from one end to another. Been to the red light districts dozens and dozens of times. Also the strip clubs and casas numerous times.

Never been robbed, hasseled or threatened. I do keep a low profile and walk very forthright and don't linger around too much. I don't stay up late at night, usually in my hotel room by 11pm. But I do think you guys are exaggerating the danger factor in El Centro.[/QUOTE]You're right, it's not like you're going to get jumped the moment you walk about out there.

The potential is there though, just watch yourself is all.

I've been out there doing what you've done, but for many years, have had a few incidents, but yes, I'm still alive and kickin'.

Not the Zwilight Zone out there but it ain't Kansas either.

[QUOTE=BayBoy; 1210959]I've been to Medellin 8 times. 7 of them I've stayed in hotels in El Centro. Walked all over El Centro, from one end to another. Been to the red light districts dozens and dozens of times. Also the strip clubs and casas numerous times.

Never been robbed, hasseled or threatened. I do keep a low profile and walk very forthright and don't linger around too much. I don't stay up late at night, usually in my hotel room by 11pm. But I do think you guys are exaggerating the danger factor in El Centro.[/QUOTE]You seem to be on point with your awareness. Its not like walking around Sante fe mall or Poblado. I've only gone to El Centro at night, so my opinions are limited to that. I just don't think it is wise for some newbie to leave the mansion at night solo to venture to El Centro because he read here that it was very safe. Just saying.

[quote=gary1; 1210573]hi again,

wilt, thanks for the detailed and positive answer to my question (s). great to hear about police. on the **** question. my purpose for the question should be obvious even to the slower bloggers. interesting: i've read 100's of blogs, some very well expressed, got so much great info, but i also see mixed in the stupid judgments, agnst, and profanity. to me that writer automatically looses credibility for any future comments.

gary de colorado[/quote]i'm definitely one of the "slower bloggers", but hopefully i haven't lost credibility with gary, it means so much to me.

now let's get back to how we can keep gary from getting arrested with **** girls haha.

btw, i'm also very tall, at least in japan i was, and am very physically fit and love to read my horoscope everyday :)

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1210925]Obviously these are two different words with two different meanings.

You two gentlemen were both correct but misunderstood one another. Section in Spanish is seccion with an accent over the o, and session is sesion, again with that accent over the o.

Peace.[/QUOTE]And you are correct. But being the other words in the sentence were english I thought he might be confused. But I will now give him the benefit of saying he was working on his two year Spanish lesson.

Thanks for the legal info. It has been my understanding I am bound by the local laws of the land, I did not realize, as a USA citizen, I am technically bound by USA laws no matter where I travel?

Last trip back from Colombia, when I entered the USA, everything I had was searched. Two officers removed everything from my bags and went in every pocket, zipper and pouch. I did notice they were not so careful about the pockets of my clothing. It was a very uncomfortable feeling. It was like an interrogation and quite intimidating. They were not friendly. They asked questions like;

Is there anything you have that I should know about?

The form you filled out on the plane, claiming property you are bringing into the USA, is a serious legal document. Now is your last chance to make changes.

Do you have anything sharp in your bags that might injure me?

How much cash are you carrying?

I was even asked, and I quote."Did you smoke marijuana while you were in Colombia? Tell me the truth. It is not illegal."

That brings me to my question. What concern is it of the USA customs what I do while I am in another country? And is there anything they can do about it? Is it possible to incriminate myself for something I did in the past outside the USA border? Can they send me back to Colombia for the local authorities to deal with?

I have heard mention about photos on computers and how anything questionable should be put on a flash key.

But what you DO and any confession of what you did. Can they do anything about it? Ie: smoking and p4p?

Obviously if you have anything on you, I suppose it is best to fess up. But as far as what you say. Whats the best policy. Just say nothing? Deny everything? Say something like, I do my best to respect all laws no matter where I travel? Anyone have advice on how to deal with these types of bouncers? I met a border patrol officer once in a casual atmosphere and the only useful tidbit I got from him was."they know who they are going to search before you even get off the plane."

At another station, I also overheard another guy being interrogated. They were asking him all sorts of questions about who he stayed with, why he went, how he knew these people and if he had any intention of bringing them into the the USA in exchange for money. I was mostly paying attention to what was happening with me but from what I saw, it really looked ridiculous. The guys says, whats so strange about talking on Skype and then meeting someone. The officer says, yeah, everything seems a little strange with you and its going to get more strange. I understand the need to monitor and protect the border but it just seemed so caveman like. For this guy and for myself. I definitely got a whiff of guilty before proven innocent which is really not cool.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1210641]18 USCS § 2423.

§ 2423. Transportation of minors

(a) Transportation with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity. A person who knowingly transports an individual who has not attained the age of 18 years in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any commonwealth, territory or possession of the United States, with intent that the individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 10 years or for life.

(be) Travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct. A person who travels in interstate commerce or travels into the United States, or a United States citizen or an alien admitted for permanent residence in the United States who travels in foreign commerce, for the purpose of engaging in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(see) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(the) Ancillary offenses. Whoever, for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, arranges, induces, procures, or facilitates the travel of a person knowing that such a person is traveling in interstate commerce or foreign commerce for the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(e) Attempt and conspiracy. Whoever attempts or conspires to violate subsection (a) , (be) , (see) , or (the) shall be punishable in the same manner as a completed violation of that subsection.

(f) Definition. As used in this section, the term "illicit sexual conduct" means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246 [18 USCS § 2246]) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A [18 USCS §§ 2241 et seq. ] if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States; or (2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591 [18 USCS § 1591]) with a person under 18 years of age.

(g) Defense. In a prosecution under this section based on illicit sexual conduct as defined in subsection (f) 2) , it is a defense, which the defendant must establish by a preponderance of the evidence, that the defendant reasonably believed that the person with whom the defendant engaged in the commercial sex act had attained the age of 18 years.[/QUOTE]

I probably shouldn't say this but they have asked me what I was doing down there and I said getting fucked up and fucking alot of women. The guy kind of looked at me like he didint know if I was kidding or not and so I looked at him straight in the eye and said I'm serious. They went all thru my bags and I was on my way but it took like an hour.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1210971]Thanks for the legal info. It has been my understanding I am bound by the local laws of the land, I did not realize, as a USA citizen, I am technically bound by USA laws no matter where I travel?

Last trip back from Colombia, when I entered the USA, everything I had was searched. Two officers removed everything from my bags and went in every pocket, zipper and pouch. I did notice they were not so careful about the pockets of my clothing. It was a very uncomfortable feeling. It was like an interrogation and quite intimidating. They were not friendly. They asked questions like;

Is there anything you have that I should know about?

The form you filled out on the plane, claiming property you are bringing into the USA, is a serious legal document. Now is your last chance to make changes.

Do you have anything sharp in your bags that might injure me?

How much cash are you carrying?

I was even asked, and I quote."Did you smoke marijuana while you were in Colombia? Tell me the truth. It is not illegal."

That brings me to my question. What concern is it of the USA customs what I do while I am in another country? And is there anything they can do about it? Is it possible to incriminate myself for something I did in the past outside the USA border? Can they send me back to Colombia for the local authorities to deal with?

I have heard mention about photos on computers and how anything questionable should be put on a flash key.

But what you DO and any confession of what you did. Can they do anything about it? Ie: smoking and p4p?

Obviously if you have anything on you, I suppose it is best to fess up. But as far as what you say. Whats the best policy. Just say nothing? Deny everything? Say something like, I do my best to respect all laws no matter where I travel? Anyone have advice on how to deal with these types of bouncers? I met a border patrol officer once in a casual atmosphere and the only useful tidbit I got from him was."they know who they are going to search before you even get off the plane."

At another station, I also overheard another guy being interrogated. They were asking him all sorts of questions about who he stayed with, why he went, how he knew these people and if he had any intention of bringing them into the the USA in exchange for money. I was mostly paying attention to what was happening with me but from what I saw, it really looked ridiculous. The guys says, whats so strange about talking on Skype and then meeting someone. The officer says, yeah, everything seems a little strange with you and its going to get more strange. I understand the need to monitor and protect the border but it just seemed so caveman like. For this guy and for myself. I definitely got a whiff of guilty before proven innocent which is really not cool.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1210971]Thanks for the legal info. It has been my understanding I am bound by the local laws of the land, I did not realize, as a USA citizen, I am technically bound by USA laws no matter where I travel?

Last trip back from Colombia, when I entered the USA, everything I had was searched. Two officers removed everything from my bags and went in every pocket, zipper and pouch. I did notice they were not so careful about the pockets of my clothing. It was a very uncomfortable feeling. It was like an interrogation and quite intimidating. They were not friendly. They asked questions like;

Is there anything you have that I should know about?

The form you filled out on the plane, claiming property you are bringing into the USA, is a serious legal document. Now is your last chance to make changes.

Do you have anything sharp in your bags that might injure me?

How much cash are you carrying?

I was even asked, and I quote."Did you smoke marijuana while you were in Colombia? Tell me the truth. It is not illegal."

That brings me to my question. What concern is it of the USA customs what I do while I am in another country? And is there anything they can do about it? Is it possible to incriminate myself for something I did in the past outside the USA border? Can they send me back to Colombia for the local authorities to deal with?

I have heard mention about photos on computers and how anything questionable should be put on a flash key.

But what you DO and any confession of what you did. Can they do anything about it? Ie: smoking and p4p?

Obviously if you have anything on you, I suppose it is best to fess up. But as far as what you say. Whats the best policy. Just say nothing? Deny everything? Say something like, I do my best to respect all laws no matter where I travel? Anyone have advice on how to deal with these types of bouncers? I met a border patrol officer once in a casual atmosphere and the only useful tidbit I got from him was."they know who they are going to search before you even get off the plane."

At another station, I also overheard another guy being interrogated. They were asking him all sorts of questions about who he stayed with, why he went, how he knew these people and if he had any intention of bringing them into the the USA in exchange for money. I was mostly paying attention to what was happening with me but from what I saw, it really looked ridiculous. The guys says, whats so strange about talking on Skype and then meeting someone. The officer says, yeah, everything seems a little strange with you and its going to get more strange. I understand the need to monitor and protect the border but it just seemed so caveman like. For this guy and for myself. I definitely got a whiff of guilty before proven innocent which is really not cool.[/QUOTE]I have had my share of USA officals asking me question, and going thru my stuff. Really it is so simple to avoid any problems.

1. Everything in your bag should be without contraband.

2. All declarable items should be listed on your custom form with the correct value.

3. All questions about your purpose to visit Colombia should be answered with a simple one word answer- tourist.

4. Just relax, and look at all that fine Colombian pussy entering the USA.

Well gents it's been mildly entertaining reading the recent posts here. I'm off to a centro casa now to spend some pesos. Hope to God the line up is decent at my first stop. Tired of bouncing around to 3-4 casas trying to find what I like. Good thing they're all pretty close to each other! Will report later if I see anything worthwhile.

[QUOTE=You Can;1210979]I probably shouldn't say this but they have asked me what I was doing down there and I said getting fucked up and fucking alot of women. The guy kind of looked at me like he didint know if I was kidding or not and so I looked at him straight in the eye and said I'm serious. They went all thru my bags and I was on my way but it took like an hour.[/QUOTE]Not a good idea to say things like that if you don't want to be delayed longer in the future. Not that they can do anything about it if you aren't carrying anything illegal but why stir the pot. I get searched all the time but when they ask me why I was there I am fortunate to have the excuse of going to visit my daughter, I offer up a copy of her Colombian birth certificate and they shut the fuck up. When in other countries I tell them that I was on vacation and give them a name of a hotel in the city that I stayed and that usually will suffice, I have never been interrogated beyond that but I don't give them a reason to either because I know damn well that if I do they can and will delay me in the future and why on earth would anyone want their trip home to be longer than it already is? No offense You Can but not a smart move on your part.

I am not a lawyer. I am not a lawyer. OK, I said that twice. My understanding of the "doctrine of extraterritoriality" is that it does [b]not[/b] mean you are subject to [b]all [/b]US laws such as marijuana laws, when you are out of the US. But, it's been [B]specifically[/B] extended to having sex with anyone under 18 for money. Google "extraterritoriality," or "extraterritoriality doctrine" and see what you come up with.

[QUOTE=You Can;1210979]I probably shouldn't say this but they have asked me what I was doing down there and I said getting fucked up and fucking alot of women. The guy kind of looked at me like he didint know if I was kidding or not and so I looked at him straight in the eye and said I'm serious. They went all thru my bags and I was on my way but it took like an hour.[/QUOTE]I am sure this won't be a popular answer, but these are NOT the people to screw with if you travel. The can (and do) enter information about you in the "data base" and it can and does effect how "easy" it is to enter the country. I, on purpose didn't say the USA, because from my considerable travel experiences, the people tasked with "guarding" the borders of almost any country seem to have a similar mindset.

I am a little surprised you didn't get an "opportunity" to sit in one of the rooms while they asked you to further explain your reasons for travel.

I would NEVER admit to anything that was against the law in the USA, and I can assure you that ignorance of the law won't go far as a form of explanation.

It is sometimes very difficult to be pleasant to the CBD people that take themselves too serious, but I would never want to irritate one of them. A single, male traveler, coming from any "exotic" location (S. E. Asia, So. Amer, etc) is a prime target for a more in depth look, so keep ones cool, be forthcoming, and have your story straight, ie. I was a "tourist"!

You may not find yourself in "trouble" otherwise, but I can assure you won't find the immigration process a pleasant one. Of course this is just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1210993]Not a good idea to say things like that if you don't want to be delayed longer in the future. Not that they can do anything about it if you aren't carrying anything illegal but why stir the pot. I get searched all the time but when they ask me why I was there I am fortunate to have the excuse of going to visit my daughter, I offer up a copy of her Colombian birth certificate and they shut the fuck up. When in other countries I tell them that I was on vacation and give them a name of a hotel in the city that I stayed and that usually will suffice, I have never been interrogated beyond that but I don't give them a reason to either because I know damn well that if I do they can and will delay me in the future and why on earth would anyone want their trip home to be longer than it already is? No offense You Can but not a smart move on your part.[/QUOTE]"Went down to see my girlfriend again", seems to work with those guys.

"Yep, met her on the internet".

Those guys in Miami are still high on re-runs of Miami Vice episodes, wouldn't mess with them, you'll be OK but they can sure mess with you for a good few hours if they want.

Went thru Orlando my last time back from Colombia, thru Panama, the guy was nothing but just genuinely curious about the beauty and sweetness and availability of the Colombianas.

He was thinking about retiring and moving there.

Courteous and respectful are a good tact.

Speaking of borders / customs issues, is there still the European-looking DAS agent in a nice suit checking passports at the Medellin intl. Airport (in the line waiting to get passports stamped)? That guy always gave me the creeps early in the morning, though probably because I was still under the influence of the previous night's shenanigans.

[quote=ricker; 1210968]i'm definitely one of the "slower bloggers", but hopefully i haven't lost credibility with gary, it means so much to me.

now let's get back to how we can keep gary from getting arrested with **** girls haha.

btw, i'm also very tall, at least in japan i was, and am very physically fit and love to read my horoscope everyday.[/quote]reminds me of an interview that i saw once with a famous jockey. he said that the girls always mentioned how short he was. his reply was that he was much taller when he stood on his wallet.

I have been secondaried at both LAX and MDE.

At LAX I was targeted before I ever made it off the plane. The officer took me to a far off place in the airport, quizzing me along the way. While he was checking my bags he said that I was "taking this very well". I said I understood that he was just doing his job. I also said that I had done nothing illegal, and I had nothing illegal, so no matter how long it took, I was going home tonight. He seemed to lighten up after that, and when he found some extra condoms in my bag I explained that I was over optimistic. He got a good laugh out of that, and then ask me if I had ever been to the PI or LOS. I said no, and he said that I would like both. He then said he had been to both in the Marines. He finished by typing into the computer and I asked him if I was being placed on the "good guy" list now. He said yes. I have not been stopped on any of my other trips when coming back into the country. Did he?

In MDE I'm not really sure what happened. I was at the gate waiting boarding when the gate agent tells me "there is a problem with your luggage for home, come with me". This is not something I really wanted to hear in Colombia. The other person that they brought, at the same time, was a young lady who was dressed like she just came from a Grateful Dead concert. A hot young lady in fatigues starts asking me questions, which I ask to to please speak slowly, which she does. She goes through my bag, takes my DVD player, and MP3 speaker, I assume to be x-rayed. She comes back, and they both go back into the luggage. She then finds my extra condoms, and I get a real stink eye. I just smile and say nothing. She lets me go with a buenos tardes.

IMO, for me anyway, it was best to be pleasant and tell them to take their time. I understood that they were just doing their job. It seemed to put both at ease. Since I had done nothing wrong, and had nothing illegal in both cases, it was no big deal to me.

I have a good friend who is an attorney. He says the only three things that you need to know about law is deny, deny, deny. When they tell you to be honest that if you tell them it will be easier on you, that is a lie. It will be easier on them.

Health & happiness to all.

Thanks Dickhead for the suggestion and I am grateful that you are not a lawyer. I think the lesson here is if "they" want to fuck with you "they" can. Just don't break any laws, or at least the obvious one's, stay calm and be nice. I guess admitting to anything which may be publicly frowned upon is not a great idea, as someone has pointed out "they" can make direct comments to "your permanent record" It's my simple goal when crossing borders to be left alone and not say or do anything that would raise suspicion during future journeys. I would like to take a moment to stand on my soap box as a reminder to all,"you got to fight for your right, to paaaartyyyy" hehe, and what I mean by that is, we are loosing our freedoms every day. So much that we travel to foreign countries just to get away from "the man" Sux. And after all, aside from the obvious pitfalls of introducing a Paisa to your hometown, whats so illegal about finding a smoking hot chica, who makes you feel like a king, is grateful for running hot water, just so happens to be bisexual and awesome in every way and then marrying her in her local church, does that make you married in the USA too?

I'd been wondering the same. They can't force you to recognize the marriage "state-side", can they?

Chica would need a lawyer, etc. Who'd pay for all the ICE fees and such- I think it would stay local and not come back to bite you in the ass. Anyone know for sure?

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1211057]Thanks Dickhead for the suggestion and I am grateful that you are not a lawyer. I think the lesson here is if "they" want to fuck with you "they" can. Just don't break any laws, or at least the obvious one's, stay calm and be nice. I guess admitting to anything which may be publicly frowned upon is not a great idea, as someone has pointed out "they" can make direct comments to "your permanent record" It's my simple goal when crossing borders to be left alone and not say or do anything that would raise suspicion during future journeys. I would like to take a moment to stand on my soap box as a reminder to all,"you got to fight for your right, to paaaartyyyy" hehe, and what I mean by that is, we are loosing our freedoms every day. So much that we travel to foreign countries just to get away from "the man" Sux. And after all, aside from the obvious pitfalls of introducing a Paisa to your hometown, whats so illegal about finding a smoking hot chica, who makes you feel like a king, is grateful for running hot water, just so happens to be bisexual and awesome in every way and then marrying her in her local church, does that make you married in the USA too?[/QUOTE]

[Its pretty simple, if you didn't do anything wrong what can they do to you? Its not illegal to go get fucked up and spend the night with hot women. I will say this, you would think it would be a little more pleasant and welcoming to come back to your country, but sometimes when your going thru a border check you get the feeling your an illegal alien!

QUOTE=Supersteve; 1211053]I have been secondaried at both LAX and MDE.

At LAX I was targeted before I ever made it off the plane. The officer took me to a far off place in the airport, quizzing me along the way. While he was checking my bags he said that I was "taking this very well". I said I understood that he was just doing his job. I also said that I had done nothing illegal, and I had nothing illegal, so no matter how long it took, I was going home tonight. He seemed to lighten up after that, and when he found some extra condoms in my bag I explained that I was over optimistic. He got a good laugh out of that, and then ask me if I had ever been to the PI or LOS. I said no, and he said that I would like both. He then said he had been to both in the Marines. He finished by typing into the computer and I asked him if I was being placed on the "good guy" list now. He said yes. I have not been stopped on any of my other trips when coming back into the country. Did he?

In MDE I'm not really sure what happened. I was at the gate waiting boarding when the gate agent tells me "there is a problem with your luggage for home, come with me". This is not something I really wanted to hear in Colombia. The other person that they brought, at the same time, was a young lady who was dressed like she just came from a Grateful Dead concert. A hot young lady in fatigues starts asking me questions, which I ask to to please speak slowly, which she does. She goes through my bag, takes my DVD player, and MP3 speaker, I assume to be x-rayed. She comes back, and they both go back into the luggage. She then finds my extra condoms, and I get a real stink eye. I just smile and say nothing. She lets me go with a buenos tardes.

IMO, for me anyway, it was best to be pleasant and tell them to take their time. I understood that they were just doing their job. It seemed to put both at ease. Since I had done nothing wrong, and had nothing illegal in both cases, it was no big deal to me.

I have a good friend who is an attorney. He says the only three things that you need to know about law is deny, deny, deny. When they tell you to be honest that if you tell them it will be easier on you, that is a lie. It will be easier on them.

Health & happiness to all.[/QUOTE]

Like I said it isn't smart, but for some reason it works for me, why lie? I tell them like it is, thats what I done and theres nothing illegal about it that I know of, I am in no hurry to get home believe me! I will sit around as long as they like, I could not care one second. What did you do in Colombia! Got fucked up and fucked a bunch of women! Its what happened and I am sticking to that. I can't fuck that story up because its true.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1210999]"Went down to see my girlfriend again", seems to work with those guys.

"Yep, met her on the internet".

Those guys in Miami are still high on re-runs of Miami Vice episodes, wouldn't mess with them, you'll be OK but they can sure mess with you for a good few hours if they want.

Went thru Orlando my last time back from Colombia, thru Panama, the guy was nothing but just genuinely curious about the beauty and sweetness and availability of the Colombianas.

He was thinking about retiring and moving there.

Courteous and respectful are a good tact.[/QUOTE]

Well I travel all the time and I tell it like it is. They can enter whatever they want in there data base. Gee, what would it be, asked traveler what he did while away alone in Colombia and he responded he got fucked up and fucked a bunch of hot women. Oh yea, we better keep a close eye on this guy! Come on Man, you got to be kidding.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1210996]I am sure this won't be a popular answer, but these are NOT the people to screw with if you travel. The can (and do) enter information about you in the "data base" and it can and does effect how "easy" it is to enter the country. I, on purpose didn't say the USA, because from my considerable travel experiences, the people tasked with "guarding" the borders of almost any country seem to have a similar mindset.

I am a little surprised you didn't get an "opportunity" to sit in one of the rooms while they asked you to further explain your reasons for travel.

I would NEVER admit to anything that was against the law in the USA, and I can assure you that ignorance of the law won't go far as a form of explanation.

It is sometimes very difficult to be pleasant to the CBD people that take themselves too serious, but I would never want to irritate one of them. A single, male traveler, coming from any "exotic" location (S. E. Asia, So. Amer, etc) is a prime target for a more in depth look, so keep ones cool, be forthcoming, and have your story straight, ie. I was a "tourist"!

You may not find yourself in "trouble" otherwise, but I can assure you won't find the immigration process a pleasant one. Of course this is just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Amen, my man! Straight anwer, nice and to the point!

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1210985]I have had my share of USA officals asking me question, and going thru my stuff. Really it is so simple to avoid any problems.

1. Everything in your bag should be without contraband.

2. All declarable items should be listed on your custom form with the correct value.

3. All questions about your purpose to visit Colombia should be answered with a simple one word answer- tourist.

4. Just relax, and look at all that fine Colombian pussy entering the USA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1211071][The only three things that you need to know about law is deny, deny, deny. When they tell you to be honest that if you tell them it will be easier on you, that is a lie. It will be easier on them.[/QUOTE] I honestly couldn't agree more!

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1210971]I did not realize, as a USA citizen, I am technically bound by USA laws no matter where I travel?[/QUOTE]Yes, USA law may apply in certain instances.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1210971]They asked questions like;

Is there anything you have that I should know about?

The form you filled out on the plane, claiming property you are bringing into the USA, is a serious legal document. Now is your last chance to make changes.

Do you have anything sharp in your bags that might injure me?

How much cash are you carrying?

I was even asked, and I quote."Did you smoke marijuana while you were in Colombia? Tell me the truth. It is not illegal."[/QUOTE]No, there is NOTHING that CBP needs to know.

You have no changes to make to the document, because you completed it truthfully.

Give an honest answer to the sharp object question. Yes, I have ink pens in my bag.

I need to count the cash that I am carrying. I took one thousand and spent the difference between that and what I have.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1210971]Is it possible to incriminate myself for something I did in the past outside the USA border? Can they send me back to Colombia for the local authorities to deal with?[/QUOTE]Yes. Do not confess to anything. Let the government prove it, if it can.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1210971]I have heard mention about photos on computers and how anything questionable should be put on a flash key.[/QUOTE]You should NOT possess any questionable photos. I do not take any. If CBP finds a questionable photo of someone of a questionable age, the burden in essence shifts to you to prove otherwise.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1210971]Obviously if you have anything on you, I suppose it is best to fess up. But as far as what you say. Whats the best policy. Just say nothing? Deny everything?[/QUOTE]Do not confess to anything. If CBP finds something, and it should not, you will need a lawyer. If you confess, you will need a lawyer. You get no brownie points for confessing to something that the government might not find in the first place. Do not make wacky statements that suggest that you did something and you are trying to be cute.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1210971]The guys says, whats so strange about talking on Skype and then meeting someone. The officer says, yeah, everything seems a little strange with you and its going to get more strange.[/QUOTE]CBP does not need to know that you talk on Skype. You are a tourist and wanted to visit another country. All my computer photos are touristy photos. Upon returning from Spain, CBP claimed that they wanted to view my photos. I pulled a chair, sat down, and told them to order a pizza since I have over 800 touristy photos. After viewing the first 50 or so of boring, touristy shots, CBP told me to get out. I laughed and left. CBP did not need to know about the girls that I met on my non-sightseeing days.

[QUOTE=BayBoy; 1210959]I've been to Medellin 8 times. 7 of them I've stayed in hotels in El Centro. Walked all over El Centro, from one end to another. Been to the red light districts dozens and dozens of times. Also the strip clubs and casas numerous times.

Never been robbed, hasseled or threatened. I do keep a low profile and walk very forthright and don't linger around too much. I don't stay up late at night, usually in my hotel room by 11pm. But I do think you guys are exaggerating the danger factor in El Centro.[/QUOTE]Exactly, like I said, I used to cruise over every night about 10PM, stay for a couple hours or whatever. Some nights I'd go see a lady friend who stayed in a hotel a block from there and wander home at whatever hour. While I'm not an easy mark (under 30 and the size of four crackheads) , I'm not foolish enough to think that makes me bulletproof. If you invite trouble, it'll be courteous enough to answer, but if you just walk or cab in and go about your business, you'll be fine.

The centro is not even close to the most dangerous area in Medellin.

Is it legal to bring generic viagra from Colombia to U. S?

Is there a limit as to how much you can bring?

I assume it is legal cause I've done it before but then I remember Rush Limbaugh getting busted at an airport for having viagara, although I think he was charged because it was in someone else's name.

1. A USA Citizen Cannot Be Denied Re-Entry To Her Own Country.

A federal judge in Puerto Rico – a territory sensitive to the rights and privileges of its residents' USA citizenship — said it best: 'The only absolute and unqualified right of citizenship is to residence within the territorial boundaries of the United States; a citizen cannot be either deported or denied reentry. ' USA v. Valentine. 288 F. Supp. 957, 980 (D. P. R. 1968).

So, while some posters implied worried that a citizen who refused to answer CBP questions would be denied re-entry to the United States, the USA government does not have the power to prevent a citizen's re-entry.

2. (The Right To) Silence Is Golden.

This is principally about the right to silence. CBP officers are law enforcement (pictured) , who can detain you, arrest you and testify against you in criminal court. You place yourself in jeopardy every time you speak to them about anything.

CBP officers are not your friends. CBP officers treat returning USA citizens as potential criminal defendants. You should likewise treat them as if they were corrupt cops on a power trip, targeting you to goose their arrest statistics. The best way to protect yourself against their depredations is to refuse to speak to them or to answer their questions.

3. Any Misstatement To A Federal Officer Can Result In Your Arrest.

If a federal officer claims you lied to him, you can be arrested and charged with the crime of making false statements. You do not have to make the statements under oath (which would be the different charge of perjury).

This statute – which is referred to as Section 1001 — is the reason why Martha Stewart has a Bureau of Prisons number.

The only way to immunize yourself against a false statements charge is to refuse to speak to federal officers.

'Wait, ' you ask, 'what about telling the truth? ' Doesn't work. If, in the course of your conversation, you mis-remember something or speak inarticulately, you can now be arrested. Innocent mistake? Prove it in court after being jailed, charged, tried and paying for a lawyer.

Cardinal Richelieu is alleged to have said, 'If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him. ' That's also how the false statement charge works. Any cop or prosecutor can concoct a 'lie' from your statements.

The only way to protect yourself from a false statement charge is to refuse to speak to federal law enforcement officers.

4. 'Business or Pleasure? ' Is A Trap.

Which brings us to the reason why, contrary to the belief of many commenters, the seemingly innocuous CBP question of whether your international trip was for business or pleasure is a trap.

You say 'business' (because you were at a conference) but the stamps in your passport indicate that you're returning from a tourist destination like Bali. Now the officer can argue that you have made a false statement, have engaged in an attempt to claim improper business deductions under the Internal Revenue Code and have broken any other federal criminal law — there are more than 10, 000 — which he can mold around the circumstances.

You and your travelling companion say 'pleasure' but you're returning from Antwerp, a city known for its diamond trade not its nightlife. Liars and smugglers! And, with two people involved, the feds can levy conspiracy and aiding and abetting charges.

[Clarification: I'm not saying these charges would stick. I'm saying they can be concocted because of purported inconsistencies in your story. My point is that the officer acting in bad faith wouldn't have that ammunition if you invoked your right to silence. ]

Answering the question also immediately opens you up to more questions, which can lead to more chances for the feds to claim that you said something suspicious, inconsistent or false.

(In addition, and this is very much a lawyer's objection, the question requests a legal conclusion. I have no idea how many federal laws create a distinction between business and pleasure travel or what standards are used. It's not my call.)

5. Politeness Would Make No Difference.

To the authoritarian mind, there are only two responses to a demand: submission or defiance, and anything less than total submission is defiance. A Lutheran grandmother from Savannah with manners from an antebellum finishing school would be hassled if she refused to answer CBP's questions.

Answering with a tart 'None of your business' underscores that I will not be pushed around and – potentially important from a criminal procedure perspective – is an unambiguous statement that I am not waiving any rights. It is a line in the linoleum.

Further, why is politeness a one-way street? The entire cop ethos is based on intimidation and domination. We should be able to give the officers a little of their own medicine, and, if they're as tough as they claim, they can take it.

6. There Is A Profound Difference Between A USA Citizen Entering a Foreign Country and a USA Citizen Re-Entering Her Own Country.

There is a distinction between a USA citizen entering a foreign country (where she can be refused entry for any reason or no reason) and a USA citizen returning to the USA (where she cannot, as noted in Item No. 1, be denied entrance). These are completely different situations with almost no overlap in terms of governing law, procedures, rights, anything.

7. The Other People In Line.

This is a bright red herring. To the extent any immigration or customs line is being slowed down by a citizen refusing to answer questions, it's because the CBP officer refuses to accept the fact that the citizen is lawfully exercising her rights (as several commenters noted).

As a practical matter, there's almost no hold up. When a citizen refuses to answer questions at the first CBP kiosk, she is ordered to secondary within a minute or two. The wait is less than it might be if a returning citizen submitted to questioning or had a complicated, multi-national family situation.

In addition, living in a free country means that sometimes you are inconvenienced by others' assertions of their rights. On occasion, you have to see advertisements for products you think are disgusting, have your morning commute hampered by a strike, or have to drive half a mile out of your way because of the GLBT parade.

8. Small, Successful Battles Can Prevent Large, Losing Battles.

When it comes to rights, you don't know in advance what battle will be important. But you do know, based on history and human nature, that a right undefended will shrivel and die. If you don't fight for the small right, you won't be in a position to assert the large right.

Moreover, the existence of the right of privacy is usually based on whether people have a current expectation of privacy in a certain situation. To the extent that people decline to assert their right of privacy, it slips away. Lack of vigilance by citizens begets more government power.

9. Travellers Who Have Presented Proof of USA Citizenship Should Not Be Detained For Refusing To Answer Questions.

Once a traveler has provided bona fide proof of USA citizenship, he or she is entitled to re-enter the country. CBP should not be asking questions as a matter of course, and, if citizens assert the right to silence, CBP should not be detaining them.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1211118]1. A USA Citizen Cannot Be Denied Re-Entry To Her Own Country.

A federal judge in Puerto Rico – a territory sensitive to the rights and privileges of its residents' USA citizenship — said it best: 'The only absolute and unqualified right of citizenship is to residence within the territorial boundaries of the United States; a citizen cannot be either deported or denied reentry. ' USA v. Valentine. 288 F. Supp. 957, 980 (D. P. R. 1968).

When it comes to rights, you don't know in advance what battle will be important. But you do know, based on history and human nature, that a right undefended will shrivel and die. If you don't fight for the small right, you won't be in a position to assert the large right.

Moreover, the existence of the right of privacy is usually based on whether people have a current expectation of privacy in a certain situation. To the extent that people decline to assert their right of privacy, it slips away. Lack of vigilance by citizens begets more government power.

9. Travellers Who Have Presented Proof of USA Citizenship Should Not Be Detained For Refusing To Answer Questions.

Once a traveler has provided bona fide proof of USA citizenship, he or she is entitled to re-enter the country. CBP should not be asking questions as a matter of course, and, if citizens assert the right to silence, CBP should not be detaining them.[/QUOTE]LT,

I am not a lawyer and don't even sleep in Holiday Inn Express, but I couldn't agree with you more. When rights aren't defended they shrivel up and die. That doesn't mean however that exercising those right are without consequences. I would wager a large sum that someone who acts in a perceived defiant manner upon reentering the USA (a citizen) will ultimately receive an additional level of scrutiny that is consistent with the CBP mandate. I suspect that higher level of scrutiny would not be restricted to a single journey. I don't want to highjack this thread, but the change in the way privacy laws and law enforcement's ability to circumvent those laws in the interest of "national security" is the greatest loss suffered in the USA since 2001.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1211118]2. (The Right To) Silence Is Golden.

This is principally about the right to silence. CBP officers are law enforcement (pictured) , who can detain you, arrest you and testify against you in criminal court. You place yourself in jeopardy every time you speak to them about anything.

CBP officers are not your friends. CBP officers treat returning USA citizens as potential criminal defendants. You should likewise treat them as if they were corrupt cops on a power trip, targeting you to goose their arrest statistics. The best way to protect yourself against their depredations is to refuse to speak to them or to answer their questions.

3. Any Misstatement To A Federal Officer Can Result In Your Arrest.

If a federal officer claims you lied to him, you can be arrested and charged with the crime of making false statements. You do not have to make the statements under oath (which would be the different charge of perjury).

This statute – which is referred to as Section 1001 — is the reason why Martha Stewart has a Bureau of Prisons number.

The only way to immunize yourself against a false statements charge is to refuse to speak to federal officers.

'Wait, ' you ask, 'what about telling the truth? ' Doesn't work. If, in the course of your conversation, you mis-remember something or speak inarticulately, you can now be arrested. Innocent mistake? Prove it in court after being jailed, charged, tried and paying for a lawyer.

Cardinal Richelieu is alleged to have said, 'If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him. ' That's also how the false statement charge works. Any cop or prosecutor can concoct a 'lie' from your statements.

The only way to protect yourself from a false statement charge is to refuse to speak to federal law enforcement officers.[/QUOTE]Here's an interesting lecture by a law professor and a police officer as to why you should never speak to the police:

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8167533318153586646&hl=en[/url]

It's more than 45 minutes long, but it's short if you only watch the first half which is given by the law professor and his advice is the most important one to remember. The second half is given by the police officer and he more or less confirms everything that's said by the law professor so you can skip it.

Hopefully we can get off this, customs has never been a big problem for me, I been detained twice and like I already said I talked to them. If your weak or the scared type it can be unsettling, but mostly its an hour of going thru your bags and questioning you. Its not that big of a deal unless your bringing kilos or a suit case filled with marijuana home with you. Its not that tough to read the form and mark it appropriately. I did enjoy that video, but this is why I am not big on attorneys. I never had a major problem in the 2 detainments and have been thru customs many times. Hopefully we can move on now. Take your trips, enjoy yourself and have a good time.

[QUOTE=Yujin; 1211175]Here's an interesting lecture by a law professor and a police officer as to why you should never speak to the police:

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8167533318153586646&hl=en[/url]

It's more than 45 minutes long, but it's short if you only watch the first half which is given by the law professor and his advice is the most important one to remember. The second half is given by the police officer and he more or less confirms everything that's said by the law professor so you can skip it.[/QUOTE]

[quote=legal tender; 1210641]18 uscs § 2423.

§ 2423. transportation of minors

(a) transportation with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity. a person who knowingly transports an individual who has not attained the age of 18 years in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any commonwealth, territory or possession of the united states, with intent that the individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 10 years or for life.

(be) travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct. a person who travels in interstate commerce or travels into the united states, or a united states citizen or an alien admitted for permanent residence in the united states who travels in foreign commerce, for the purpose of engaging in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(see) engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. any united states citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(the) ancillary offenses. whoever, for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, arranges, induces, procures, or facilitates the travel of a person knowing that such a person is traveling in interstate commerce or foreign commerce for the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(e) attempt and conspiracy. whoever attempts or conspires to violate subsection (a) , (be) , (see) , or (the) shall be punishable in the same manner as a completed violation of that subsection.

(f) definition. as used in this section, the term "illicit sexual conduct" means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246 [18 uscs § 2246]) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109a [18 uscs §§ 2241 et seq. ] if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the united states; or (2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591 [18 uscs § 1591]) with a person under 18 years of age.

(g) defense. in a prosecution under this section based on illicit sexual conduct as defined in subsection (f) 2) , it is a defense, which the defendant must establish by a preponderance of the evidence, that the defendant reasonably believed that the person with whom the defendant engaged in the commercial sex act had attained the age of 18 years.[/quote]thats the good thing about casas, termas, or clubs like help or fase dos, you know they are 18. you don't have to worry about a **** girl who looks 21. its very dangerous nowadays to pick up a working girl away from a business enviroment. you never know if you will be setup.

[QUOTE=The Assman; 1211112]Is it legal to bring generic viagra from Colombia to U. S?

Is there a limit as to how much you can bring?

I assume it is legal cause I've done it before but then I remember Rush Limbaugh getting busted at an airport for having viagara, although I think he was charged because it was in someone else's name.[/QUOTE]No it is not legal. That said, I have traveled back and forth with it in my checked bags a million times without issue. I won't do it anymore because I have been pulled into secondary four out of last five trips and the stuff is so cheap that if I have a couple left over I will just throw them away. On my last trip upon landing at JFK from Bogota there was an army of customs officers waiting at the carousel and my bags were checked, but these guys do such a shitty job it's no wonder people smuggle stuff all the time. I won't take the risk again though.

I have been secondary'ed at many airports, I have to travel a lot for work plus I have a lot of stamps in my passport and a beard, so yes it happens all the time.

I almost think you can learn about a country's culture through the experience, for example the Canadians cannot even feign severity, they are just too nice.

In Colombia international flights they are almost certainly going to rifle through your carry on and personal item, that is in the primary search. The secondary searches I've been through mostly consisted of a body scan and a series of questions. You go off into another room (in Cartagena it is up some stairs) and it doesn't take that long.

In the USA, it often consists of a second, more thorough search and can also mean going into a little office with an officer. I've always just been asked more specific questions about the purpose of my trip or whatever.

I would not bring back generic meds from Colombia, not because of the risk but because you can just order them straight to your home for a much cheaper price. Just order them and bring them with you, they never check much of anything coming in let alone that (nor do the Colombian authorities give a shit). Coming back you can either check them or just ditch your remaining supply.

More and more I think the focus is on big quantity smugglers of whatever substance and weapons / explosives, small time stuff does not get sweated unless officer hardass finds that marijuana seed in your jean pocket and just HAS to screw you over.

Where can you watch all the football games this weekend in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1211258]Where can you watch all the football games this weekend in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Parque Lleres (I assure you're in that General Area) Hooters and Time Out right across the street. They show NFL games and I assume you could get them to put on College too.

BUT! Sat and Sun are Ley Seca. No beer no nothing so those places might be closed. I heard rumor that at Tiger's Paw Hostel they showed the games and served beer in cups and stuff. But I heard that from a guy who knew a kid staying there who couldn't' afford socks so take a chance and go down there if you're desperate.

[QUOTE=The Assman; 1211112]Is it legal to bring generic viagra from Colombia to U. S?

Is there a limit as to how much you can bring?

I assume it is legal cause I've done it before but then I remember Rush Limbaugh getting busted at an airport for having viagara, although I think he was charged because it was in someone else's name.[/QUOTE]Well both Viagra and Cialis are prescription drugs so in the USA you need a script. BUT If you act cool and confident you'll be all right. I've been randomly selected twice by customs coming back they see Colombia and a young guy and I get flagged all the time. I just go and chat with the guy as if we're on an elevator together or at a diner as he searches my shit, try to be polite and helpful. You kow normal and you're fine. They're looking for KEYS of Coke not some limp dick gringo coming back with a hand full of ED tabs.

What also help is to take them out of the box; NOT THE FOILS. Put them into a baggie with day-quil, allergy pills, common cold shit, anything that comes in a blister pack that you would normally have with you when you travel. In an x-ray the just look like any ordinary pills (as long as it's not like hundres of them) and even during a hand search if they don't open the bag and read each foil they'd just check it and move on. You have to remember this guy is making $12-$15 bucks an hours. He just looking to run out the clock on the day and go home, have a beer, see his kids.

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1211258]Where can you watch all the football games this weekend in Medellin?[/QUOTE][url]www.firstrowsports.tv[/url]

[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1211258]Where can you watch all the football games this weekend in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Try Hooters or Time Out, across the street, in Parque Lleras, Poblado.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1211102]Exactly, like I said, I used to cruise over every night about 10PM, stay for a couple hours or whatever. Some nights I'd go see a lady friend who stayed in a hotel a block from there and wander home at whatever hour. While I'm not an easy mark (under 30 and the size of four crackheads) , I'm not foolish enough to think that makes me bulletproof. If you invite trouble, it'll be courteous enough to answer, but if you just walk or cab in and go about your business, you'll be fine.

The centro is not even close to the most dangerous area in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I agree both that the is danger but, if you keep smart you can avoid problems. Know when and where the problems are. If you don't seem like a target there should be no problem.

12 to 15. An hour? US customs officers make a lot more then that, everything else you said is true, they have never questioned me about the viagara, and I always bring about 75 back with me. I just put them in a old prescription bottle that use to have my blood pressure medicine in.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1211297]Well both Viagra and Cialis are prescription drugs so in the USA you need a script. BUT If you act cool and confident you'll be all right. I've been randomly selected twice by customs coming back they see Colombia and a young guy and I get flagged all the time. I just go and chat with the guy as if we're on an elevator together or at a diner as he searches my shit, try to be polite and helpful. You kow normal and you're fine. They're looking for KEYS of Coke not some limp dick gringo coming back with a hand full of ED tabs.

What also help is to take them out of the box; NOT THE FOILS. Put them into a baggie with day-quil, allergy pills, common cold shit, anything that comes in a blister pack that you would normally have with you when you travel. In an x-ray the just look like any ordinary pills (as long as it's not like hundres of them) and even during a hand search if they don't open the bag and read each foil they'd just check it and move on. You have to remember this guy is making $12-$15 bucks an hours. He just looking to run out the clock on the day and go home, have a beer, see his kids.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about when you say just order cialis and bring it with you its cheaper? Generic cialis is dirt cheap in Cartagena. I pay between 1 and 2 dollars apiece. I can't find that anywhere in the states even with my prescription plan.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1211257]I have been secondary'ed at many airports, I have to travel a lot for work plus I have a lot of stamps in my passport and a beard, so yes it happens all the time.

I almost think you can learn about a country's culture through the experience, for example the Canadians cannot even feign severity, they are just too nice.

In Colombia international flights they are almost certainly going to rifle through your carry on and personal item, that is in the primary search. The secondary searches I've been through mostly consisted of a body scan and a series of questions. You go off into another room (in Cartagena it is up some stairs) and it doesn't take that long.

In the USA, it often consists of a second, more thorough search and can also mean going into a little office with an officer. I've always just been asked more specific questions about the purpose of my trip or whatever.

I would not bring back generic meds from Colombia, not because of the risk but because you can just order them straight to your home for a much cheaper price. Just order them and bring them with you, they never check much of anything coming in let alone that (nor do the Colombian authorities give a shit). Coming back you can either check them or just ditch your remaining supply.

More and more I think the focus is on big quantity smugglers of whatever substance and weapons / explosives, small time stuff does not get sweated unless officer hardass finds that marijuana seed in your jean pocket and just HAS to screw you over.[/QUOTE]

RE: ED stuff, I guess Cialis is still about $1-$1. 50 a pill but you can get levitra and viagra for way less. Viagra like 30 cents a pill from raymeds if you buy a good number, free shipping, too.

RE: American football in MDE, well you will get games of the week on cable. Often it's the Chargers because they run the feed in from Mexico, who frequently has the Chargers (proximity to Mexico / Tijuana). Sometimes there is another game, they showed the Falcons and Panthers the last time I bothered to watch. There are also college games on, strangely I've noticed there will be a live game or two on Saturday, and then some replays on Sunday.

Outside of what random stuff (and the NCAA games are truly random it seems) , there is a bar in parque lleras, are you walk up the hill it's on the right hand side, that sort of fancies itself an American sports bar. I checked it out during the NCAA tournament but it was already in the Elite 8 so all the games were on TV anyway. There or maybe Hooters might be your best bet for any additional games. Overall the interest is very limited in American football. Basketball is more popular and on the coast they actually show as many MLB games in a day as USA cable and more than Canadian cable. Some days you see five or six games between ESPN, Fox Sports, UNE stations and the weird Caribe channel that showed the World Series this year.

[Also, try the Alamo Bar also in PArque Lleras. The American owners have a similar bar in Buenos Aires in the Calle Uruguay and Santa Fe Avenida area.

QUOTE=BayBoy; 1211376]Try Hooters or Time Out, across the street, in Parque Lleras, Poblado.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1211545]What are you talking about when you say just order cialis and bring it with you its cheaper? Generic cialis is dirt cheap in Cartagena. I pay between 1 and 2 dollars apiece. I can't find that anywhere in the states even with my prescription plan.[/QUOTE]I didn't think generic Cialis was available anywhere in Colombia, I have asked in at least a dozen farmacias and was told the same thing. I am curious as to what the name of the product would be.

[QUOTE=You Can;1211545]What are you talking about when you say just order cialis and bring it with you its cheaper? Generic cialis is dirt cheap in Cartagena. I pay between 1 and 2 dollars apiece. I can't find that anywhere in the states even with my prescription plan.[/QUOTE]There is NO generic Cialis or Tadalfil in Colombia. Only the Lilly Original and it is very expensive. Like 90k for four 10mg, available in any supermaket pharmacy or drogas la rebaje.

[QUOTE=Tomasb; 1211559][Also, try the Alamo Bar also in PArque Lleras. The American owners have a similar bar in Buenos Aires in the Calle Uruguay and Santa Fe Avenida area.

QUOTE=BayBoy; 1211376]Try Hooters or Time Out, across the street, in Parque Lleras, Poblado.[/QUOTE]

The Alamo Bar has closed and gone out of business. Didn't last very long maybe 7-8 months is all. I like the one in BA, a fun place to go and have a beer, watch a game.

Well, I don't know what you call it but I buy sildenfil 50 mg tablets for 15000 peso and I get 4 tablets each of 50mg. You only need 1 tablet and you will be ready for slamming the thing in whatever comes your way. Believe me I'm 50 years old and do all kind of drinking and you name it and this stuff never lets me down. I'm not real smart so maybe its not generic cialis but its dick pills and they work. I believe 15, 000 peso is like 8 us dollars so thats 2 us dollars per pill. I go there all the time and will be there again Nov 3. All the pharmacys will try to charge you more but they haggle and I buy all my stuff cheaper then if you just take what they say. I got one pharmacy where the guy sells to me with no receit but you take that for what it is, then I only pay like 50 cent apiece and give him the money directly and its right in the pharmacy.

QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1211600]There is NO generic Cialis or Tadalfil in Colombia. Only the Lilly Original and it is very expensive. Like 90k for four 10mg, available in any supermaket pharmacy or drogas la rebaje.[/QUOTE]

Thanks I will check that out, I don't know what raymeds is but I will google it. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1211556]RE: ED stuff, I guess Cialis is still about $1-$1. 50 a pill but you can get levitra and viagra for way less. Viagra like 30 cents a pill from raymeds if you buy a good number, free shipping, too.

RE: American football in MDE, well you will get games of the week on cable. Often it's the Chargers because they run the feed in from Mexico, who frequently has the Chargers (proximity to Mexico / Tijuana). Sometimes there is another game, they showed the Falcons and Panthers the last time I bothered to watch. There are also college games on, strangely I've noticed there will be a live game or two on Saturday, and then some replays on Sunday.

Outside of what random stuff (and the NCAA games are truly random it seems) , there is a bar in parque lleras, are you walk up the hill it's on the right hand side, that sort of fancies itself an American sports bar. I checked it out during the NCAA tournament but it was already in the Elite 8 so all the games were on TV anyway. There or maybe Hooters might be your best bet for any additional games. Overall the interest is very limited in American football. Basketball is more popular and on the coast they actually show as many MLB games in a day as USA cable and more than Canadian cable. Some days you see five or six games between ESPN, Fox Sports, UNE stations and the weird Caribe channel that showed the World Series this year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1211602]The Alamo Bar has closed and gone out of business. Didn't last very long maybe 7-8 months is all. I like the one in BA, a fun place to go and have a beer, watch a game.[/QUOTE]Very true. Great bar and I met a bunch of cool guys down there to hit the clubs with. Did they have girls down there in BA at that bar? I was always too focused on the games.

[QUOTE=You69Me;1209016]FrankCasio = Primitive[/QUOTE]Here is the bottom line. If you don't like Franks Place, don't stay there. I know frank. We are now friends. He I is not hurting for cash. So I am sure he doesn't give a shit if you like his place or not. But here is the reality. For hunting pussy in Mayo it is perfect. If Mayo is not for you, stay somewhere else. But for you to say primative is BS. I do okay and can easily afford to stay anywhere in Medellin. I stay in Mayo and I am safe and happy with the accommodations at Franks.

[QUOTE=You Can;1211707]Thanks I will check that out, I don't know what raymeds is but I will google it. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]YouCan much props bro, you initially came off sort of hardcore with your earlier posts, but I'm feeling the respect you give to this forum. Before every post you had started with' What the fuck are you talking about' but now I respect most of what your saying. You are an asset to this comminity.

I love this forum! Sometimes I do come off like a jackoff, but I don't mean to. I tri to give back with whatever help I can. Have a great day! Leaving for Cartagena this Thursday!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1211744]YouCan much props bro, you initially came off sort of hardcore with your earlier posts, but I'm feeling the respect you give to this forum. Before every post you had started with' What the fuck are you talking about' but now I respect most of what your saying. You are an asset to this comminity.[/QUOTE]

Everything below is accurate but I think one important point might have been omitted. While it is true a USA citizen cannot be denied re-entry to the USA, the circumstances of re-entry could leave the citizen in law enforcement custody. Several reasons for a citizen being detained are detailed below. My point is the best play is to avoid unusual interactions that would call attention to yourself and raise suspicions. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1211118]1. A USA Citizen Cannot Be Denied Re-Entry To Her Own Country.

A federal judge in Puerto Rico – a territory sensitive to the rights and privileges of its residents' USA citizenship — said it best: 'The only absolute and unqualified right of citizenship is to residence within the territorial boundaries of the United States; a citizen cannot be either deported or denied reentry. ' USA v. Valentine. 288 F. Supp. 957, 980 (D. P. R. 1968).

So, while some posters implied worried that a citizen who refused to answer CBP questions would be denied re-entry to the United States, the USA government does not have the power to prevent a citizen's re-entry.

2. (The Right To) Silence Is Golden.

This is principally about the right to silence. CBP officers are law enforcement (pictured) , who can detain you, arrest you and testify against you in criminal court. You place yourself in jeopardy every time you speak to them about anything.

CBP officers are not your friends. CBP officers treat returning USA citizens as potential criminal defendants. You should likewise treat them as if they were corrupt cops on a power trip, targeting you to goose their arrest statistics. The best way to protect yourself against their depredations is to refuse to speak to them or to answer their questions.

3. Any Misstatement To A Federal Officer Can Result In Your Arrest.

If a federal officer claims you lied to him, you can be arrested and charged with the crime of making false statements. You do not have to make the statements under oath (which would be the different charge of perjury).

This statute – which is referred to as Section 1001 — is the reason why Martha Stewart has a Bureau of Prisons number.

The only way to immunize yourself against a false statements charge is to refuse to speak to federal officers.

'Wait, ' you ask, 'what about telling the truth? ' Doesn't work. If, in the course of your conversation, you mis-remember something or speak inarticulately, you can now be arrested. Innocent mistake? Prove it in court after being jailed, charged, tried and paying for a lawyer.

Cardinal Richelieu is alleged to have said, 'If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him. ' That's also how the false statement charge works. Any cop or prosecutor can concoct a 'lie' from your statements.

The only way to protect yourself from a false statement charge is to refuse to speak to federal law enforcement officers.

4. 'Business or Pleasure? ' Is A Trap.

Which brings us to the reason why, contrary to the belief of many commenters, the seemingly innocuous CBP question of whether your international trip was for business or pleasure is a trap.

You say 'business' (because you were at a conference) but the stamps in your passport indicate that you're returning from a tourist destination like Bali. Now the officer can argue that you have made a false statement, have engaged in an attempt to claim improper business deductions under the Internal Revenue Code and have broken any other federal criminal law — there are more than 10, 000 — which he can mold around the circumstances.

You and your travelling companion say 'pleasure' but you're returning from Antwerp, a city known for its diamond trade not its nightlife. Liars and smugglers! And, with two people involved, the feds can levy conspiracy and aiding and abetting charges.

[Clarification: I'm not saying these charges would stick. I'm saying they can be concocted because of purported inconsistencies in your story. My point is that the officer acting in bad faith wouldn't have that ammunition if you invoked your right to silence. ]

Answering the question also immediately opens you up to more questions, which can lead to more chances for the feds to claim that you said something suspicious, inconsistent or false.

(In addition, and this is very much a lawyer's objection, the question requests a legal conclusion. I have no idea how many federal laws create a distinction between business and pleasure travel or what standards are used. It's not my call.)

5. Politeness Would Make No Difference.

To the authoritarian mind, there are only two responses to a demand: submission or defiance, and anything less than total submission is defiance. A Lutheran grandmother from Savannah with manners from an antebellum finishing school would be hassled if she refused to answer CBP's questions.

Answering with a tart 'None of your business' underscores that I will not be pushed around and – potentially important from a criminal procedure perspective – is an unambiguous statement that I am not waiving any rights. It is a line in the linoleum.

Further, why is politeness a one-way street? The entire cop ethos is based on intimidation and domination. We should be able to give the officers a little of their own medicine, and, if they're as tough as they claim, they can take it.

6. There Is A Profound Difference Between A USA Citizen Entering a Foreign Country and a USA Citizen Re-Entering Her Own Country.

There is a distinction between a USA citizen entering a foreign country (where she can be refused entry for any reason or no reason) and a USA citizen returning to the USA (where she cannot, as noted in Item No. 1, be denied entrance). These are completely different situations with almost no overlap in terms of governing law, procedures, rights, anything.

7. The Other People In Line.

This is a bright red herring. To the extent any immigration or customs line is being slowed down by a citizen refusing to answer questions, it's because the CBP officer refuses to accept the fact that the citizen is lawfully exercising her rights (as several commenters noted).

As a practical matter, there's almost no hold up. When a citizen refuses to answer questions at the first CBP kiosk, she is ordered to secondary within a minute or two. The wait is less than it might be if a returning citizen submitted to questioning or had a complicated, multi-national family situation.

In addition, living in a free country means that sometimes you are inconvenienced by others' assertions of their rights. On occasion, you have to see advertisements for products you think are disgusting, have your morning commute hampered by a strike, or have to drive half a mile out of your way because of the GLBT parade.

8. Small, Successful Battles Can Prevent Large, Losing Battles.

When it comes to rights, you don't know in advance what battle will be important. But you do know, based on history and human nature, that a right undefended will shrivel and die. If you don't fight for the small right, you won't be in a position to assert the large right.

Moreover, the existence of the right of privacy is usually based on whether people have a current expectation of privacy in a certain situation. To the extent that people decline to assert their right of privacy, it slips away. Lack of vigilance by citizens begets more government power.

9. Travellers Who Have Presented Proof of USA Citizenship Should Not Be Detained For Refusing To Answer Questions.

Once a traveler has provided bona fide proof of USA citizenship, he or she is entitled to re-enter the country. CBP should not be asking questions as a matter of course, and, if citizens assert the right to silence, CBP should not be detaining them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can; 1211706]Well, I don't know what you call it but I buy sildenfil 50 mg tablets for 15000 peso and I get 4 tablets each of 50mg. You only need 1 tablet and you will be ready for slamming the thing in whatever comes your way. Believe me I'm 50 years old and do all kind of drinking and you name it and this stuff never lets me down. I'm not real smart so maybe its not generic cialis but its dick pills and they work. I believe 15, 000 peso is like 8 us dollars so thats 2 us dollars per pill. I go there all the time and will be there again Nov 3. All the pharmacys will try to charge you more but they haggle and I buy all my stuff cheaper then if you just take what they say. I got one pharmacy where the guy sells to me with no receit but you take that for what it is, then I only pay like 50 cent apiece and give him the money directly and its right in the pharmacy.

QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1211600]There is NO generic Cialis or Tadalfil in Colombia. Only the Lilly Original and it is very expensive. Like 90k for four 10mg, available in any supermaket pharmacy or drogas la rebaje.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Sildenafil is generic Viagra. Be careful where you buy it as there are a ton of counterfeits out there. If you have a good source selling at a good price as you apparently do stick with them. If you go back to the same store and they are selling a different brand of sildenafil I suggest buying only a couple and trying them out first. I bought sildenafil from the same store for years and the last time I went there they sold me sildenafil from a different company and it was shit.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1211876][/QUOTE]Sildenafil is generic Viagra. Be careful where you buy it as there are a ton of counterfeits out there. If you have a good source selling at a good price as you apparently do stick with them. If you go back to the same store and they are selling a different brand of sildenafil I suggest buying only a couple and trying them out first. I bought sildenafil from the same store for years and the last time I went there they sold me sildenafil from a different company and it was shit.[/QUOTE]Really? Fake Sildenafil in stores? Even in like a drogaria en a nice store? I'm thinking maybe on line it would be suspect but in a store?

RE Cialis: I have not found any knock-offs or generic versions in South America or even in China the land of bootlegs! Well in China if they were bootlegs they did everthing perfectly and usually there is something off about the product. I just got 4 cialis and 5 sildenafils for my long weekend from a drogaria en an Olympia it was $68. 65 for the entire kit. The largest chunk of the cost coming from the cialis. The guy even said "These (the cialis) are very expensive; these (the sidenz) are cheaper*"

Sorry I don't have an accurate price break down, in Colombia I never ask a price for anything, I just buy it and enjoy it. I'll worry when I'm home in the states sitting in my cubical waiting for my supervisor to ok my vacation days for my next trip down!

I'd like to share an ED tip with ya'll.

What I like to do is get say a 20 (I think that's the size) of Cialis and then when I'm ready take a. 5 or. 25 of a viagra and you'll be ROCK the tower of power! Fast acting and LONG and I do mean LONG lasting! Like if you're looking to go on a marathon fucking session.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1211889]Sildenafil is generic Viagra. Be careful where you buy it as there are a ton of counterfeits out there. If you have a good source selling at a good price as you apparently do stick with them. If you go back to the same store and they are selling a different brand of sildenafil I suggest buying only a couple and trying them out first. I bought sildenafil from the same store for years and the last time I went there they sold me sildenafil from a different company and it was shit.[/QUOTE]Really? Fake Sildenafil in stores? Even in like a drogaria en a nice store? I'm thinking maybe on line it would be suspect but in a store?

RE Cialis: I have not found any knock-offs or generic versions in South America or even in China the land of bootlegs! Well in China if they were bootlegs they did everthing perfectly and usually there is something off about the product. I just got 4 cialis and 5 sildenafils for my long weekend from a drogaria en an Olympia it was $68. 65 for the entire kit. The largest chunk of the cost coming from the cialis. The guy even said "These (the cialis) are very expensive; these (the sidenz) are cheaper*"

Sorry I don't have an accurate price break down, in Colombia I never ask a price for anything, I just buy it and enjoy it. I'll worry when I'm home in the states sitting in my cubical waiting for my supervisor to ok my vacation days for my next trip down!

I'd like to share an ED tip with ya'll.

What I like to do is get say a 20 (I think that's the size) of Cialis and then when I'm ready take a. 5 or. 25 of a viagra and you'll be ROCK the tower of power! Fast acting and LONG and I do mean LONG lasting! Like if you're looking to go on a marathon fucking session.[/QUOTE]The fake sildenafil I have gotten was at a small farmacia in Medellin and another mom and pop place in Sosua, DR. I now only buy them at large supermarket farmacia's and have not had any problems. I'll have to try your tip on mixing the two ED med's, thanks for the advise.

I never had a problem and yea I always go to a drug store, same one everytime and never had any problems. One pill works for me and I'm good even into the next day. Can't wait to get back the Nov3!

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1211889]Sildenafil is generic Viagra. Be careful where you buy it as there are a ton of counterfeits out there. If you have a good source selling at a good price as you apparently do stick with them. If you go back to the same store and they are selling a different brand of sildenafil I suggest buying only a couple and trying them out first. I bought sildenafil from the same store for years and the last time I went there they sold me sildenafil from a different company and it was shit.[/QUOTE]Really? Fake Sildenafil in stores? Even in like a drogaria en a nice store? I'm thinking maybe on line it would be suspect but in a store?

RE Cialis: I have not found any knock-offs or generic versions in South America or even in China the land of bootlegs! Well in China if they were bootlegs they did everthing perfectly and usually there is something off about the product. I just got 4 cialis and 5 sildenafils for my long weekend from a drogaria en an Olympia it was $68. 65 for the entire kit. The largest chunk of the cost coming from the cialis. The guy even said "These (the cialis) are very expensive; these (the sidenz) are cheaper*"

Sorry I don't have an accurate price break down, in Colombia I never ask a price for anything, I just buy it and enjoy it. I'll worry when I'm home in the states sitting in my cubical waiting for my supervisor to ok my vacation days for my next trip down!

I'd like to share an ED tip with ya'll.

What I like to do is get say a 20 (I think that's the size) of Cialis and then when I'm ready take a. 5 or. 25 of a viagra and you'll be ROCK the tower of power! Fast acting and LONG and I do mean LONG lasting! Like if you're looking to go on a marathon fucking session.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1211906]I'd like to share an ED tip with ya'll.

What I like to do is get say a 20 (I think that's the size) of Cialis and then when I'm ready take a. 5 or. 25 of a viagra and you'll be ROCK the tower of power! Fast acting and LONG and I do mean LONG lasting! Like if you're looking to go on a marathon fucking session.[/QUOTE]The fake sildenafil I have gotten was at a small farmacia in Medellin and another mom and pop place in Sosua, DR. I now only buy them at large supermarket farmacia's and have not had any problems. I'll have to try your tip on mixing the two ED med's, thanks for the advise.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah I forgot to put: Take only. 5 of the Cialis too. Well do what works for you. You don't want to over do it; trust me these are powerful drugs we're playing with.

Hey I was going to ask: Have you guys ever had a ED hang over? By this I mean like over a long trip you needed more and more to get the same Tower of Power or have a difficult time getting an erection with out? Yes I am lucky enough to get my own boners but it is the fucking with a condom that kills it for me.

[QUOTE=Oh Ya Papi;1204842]Ya I know that place sux but the real thai is in p. Lleras called royal thai. Owner is thai, and I know thai! And it is good! Panang gai, spring rolls and cashew chicken is a great meal for 2![/QUOTE]Royal Thai is DECENT, I wouldn't say it's GOOD. And Thai Co. Is HORRIBLE. It's a trendy place to get some drinks with a girl, not to eat Thai Food.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1211936]The fake sildenafil I have gotten was at a small farmacia in Medellin and another mom and pop place in Sosua, DR. I now only buy them at large supermarket farmacia's and have not had any problems. I'll have to try your tip on mixing the two ED med's, thanks for the advise.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah I forgot to put: Take only. 5 of the Cialis too. Well do what works for you. You don't want to over do it; trust me these are powerful drugs we're playing with.

Hey I was going to ask: Have you guys ever had a ED hang over? By this I mean like over a long trip you needed more and more to get the same Tower of Power or have a difficult time getting an erection with out? Yes I am lucky enough to get my own boners but it is the fucking with a condom that kills it for me.[/QUOTE]I've never had a hangover, unless your talking about flying out horny as hell because the cialis is still kicking in. But what I've noticed is that I've had a flush rush within an hour after taking it. My best results are to wake and eat a fruit breakfast at 10am. Then water myself down (no alcohol of food) and take a pill at 2pm. As long as I don't eat a big meal or drink alcohol I'm good when I head out at night about 8pm.

I've been mooching off of everyone's info for long enough without giving back; thanks to everybody out there for making this a great site. Last week a buddy of mine and I hit some casas, here's how it went. Between 10-12 a. M. We hit New Life, Sexy Fantasias, Zandalay, Coffee Shop, Belle Suite, pretty much most of the ones within walking distance of each other in the Prado area. Honestly, I didn't see a single girl in any of those places that I'd rate above a 5 or 6. Maybe I just hit it too early, or on a bad day, or maybe I just like the flacas too much, but we went about 0-for-30 on the centro chicas. So after lunch we headed over to the Estadio area to Energy. It's more expensive, but in the lineup of 10 girls there were a couple of 8s and most of the rest were in the 6-7 range. My buddy took a well-developed morenita named Valentina and I took a taller, lighter-skinned girl who went by Karen. We were quoted 80k for 1/2 hour and 100k for a full hour, so an hour it was. Karen had a really pretty face, sweet disposition, and aside from some pretty floppy tits she was tight all around. No DFK but she gave a decent BBBJ for about 5 minutes before she slipped on the condom and we got down to business. Overall I'd give her 9/10 face. 7/10 body and 8/10 service. Propina 10k. My buddy's girl was maybe even a little hotter although he says she stayed on the phone for 15 minutes, which seems pretty fucked up but he still enjoyed himself. Overall, I thought Energy was a nice, clean, upscale environment that would be worth revisiting. I'll give the centro casas another go sometime, but did not get a good first impression of the quality there.

[QUOTE=Driver 8;1212449]I've been mooching off of everyone's info for long enough without giving back; thanks to everybody out there for making this a great site. Last week a buddy of mine and I hit some casas, here's how it went. Between 10-12 a. M. We hit New Life, Sexy Fantasias, Zandalay, Coffee Shop, Belle Suite, pretty much most of the ones within walking distance of each other in the Prado area. Honestly, I didn't see a single girl in any of those places that I'd rate above a 5 or 6. Maybe I just hit it too early, or on a bad day, or maybe I just like the flacas too much, but we went about 0-for-30 on the centro chicas. So after lunch we headed over to the Estadio area to Energy. It's more expensive, but in the lineup of 10 girls there were a couple of 8s and most of the rest were in the 6-7 range. My buddy took a well-developed morenita named Valentina and I took a taller, lighter-skinned girl who went by Karen. We were quoted 80k for 1/2 hour and 100k for a full hour, so an hour it was. Karen had a really pretty face, sweet disposition, and aside from some pretty floppy tits she was tight all around. No DFK but she gave a decent BBBJ for about 5 minutes before she slipped on the condom and we got down to business. Overall I'd give her 9/10 face. 7/10 body and 8/10 service. Propina 10k. My buddy's girl was maybe even a little hotter although he says she stayed on the phone for 15 minutes, which seems pretty fucked up but he still enjoyed himself. Overall, I thought Energy was a nice, clean, upscale environment that would be worth revisiting. I'll give the centro casas another go sometime, but did not get a good first impression of the quality there.[/QUOTE]Yep, those casas are definitely hit and miss, ya just never know what you might or might not find.

[QUOTE=Driver 8;1212449]I've been mooching off of everyone's info for long enough without giving back; thanks to everybody out there for making this a great site. Last week a buddy of mine and I hit some casas, here's how it went. Between 10-12 a. M. We hit New Life, Sexy Fantasias, Zandalay, Coffee Shop, Belle Suite, pretty much most of the ones within walking distance of each other in the Prado area. Honestly, I didn't see a single girl in any of those places that I'd rate above a 5 or 6. Maybe I just hit it too early, or on a bad day, or maybe I just like the flacas too much, but we went about 0-for-30 on the centro chicas. So after lunch we headed over to the Estadio area to Energy. It's more expensive, but in the lineup of 10 girls there were a couple of 8s and most of the rest were in the 6-7 range. My buddy took a well-developed morenita named Valentina and I took a taller, lighter-skinned girl who went by Karen. We were quoted 80k for 1/2 hour and 100k for a full hour, so an hour it was. Karen had a really pretty face, sweet disposition, and aside from some pretty floppy tits she was tight all around. No DFK but she gave a decent BBBJ for about 5 minutes before she slipped on the condom and we got down to business. Overall I'd give her 9/10 face. 7/10 body and 8/10 service. Propina 10k. My buddy's girl was maybe even a little hotter although he says she stayed on the phone for 15 minutes, which seems pretty fucked up but he still enjoyed himself. Overall, I thought Energy was a nice, clean, upscale environment that would be worth revisiting. I'll give the centro casas another go sometime, but did not get a good first impression of the quality there.[/QUOTE]You can't put up with a girl your paying 100K for an hour to talk on the phone for 15 minutes. Really that is outragous. Your friend needed to say something to the girl about it, and if she still did not get off the phone than the jeffe should have been informed of this on his way out the door.

As far as the casa's they are good value, and all that, but not my cup of tea.

Guys,

I know this is not the right forum but if any body needs info on the Rio Atrato, Quibdo to Turbo "fast taxi boat trip" (I've done it 3 times now) let me know.

I also export timber to Asia, Australia and Canada if anybody wants to buy some.

I specialise in exotic timber.

Aussie Greg.

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1202819]Not to worry.

You only take it when you need it. When you are sick.

The time I got really sick, I had changed my flight so many times leaving B. A. I had to go home through Rio. That would have been great, but I was so sick and dizzy I could barely leave the hotel for the three days I was there.

I wish I had the Z Pac then.[/QUOTE]Sorry to jump in on this topic a few days late but. Ay yi yi.

Get sick, take a Z pack. Damn, medicine is SO SIMPLE.

Parainfluenza virus, coronavirus, rhinovirus, adenovirus, respiratory syncitial virus, influenza A and B.

What do these have in common other than being 65%+ or greater of ALL upper respiratory infections? ALL of them will make you sick, SOME may kill you, NONE of them will be helped by an antibiotic.

Also, what if you have an atopic allergy (non infectious, allergen based)? What system do you think gets activated? The little' ol' thing we call an immune system. The end pathways have common mediators, which is why patients come in saying "I have a lousy immune system. I get sick all the time". Surprise! Your immune system is working overtime and you never needed an antibioic ( unless you get secondarily infected)!

Guess how many Z packs or equivalent antibiotics they've ingested before finding the diagnosis was wrong and someone gives them medicine that treats their underlying problem?

Last, there's a thing called the placebo effect. Look into it the next time you take your Z pack and feel the healing move through your body. Just like it did every. time. before. Like magik!

Cough longer than three weeks? Whole new set of diagnostic possibilities, only two of them are infectious.

All these things add up to why medicine is not something you Google or plug into a cookbook. It's why good docs clean up bad diagnoses all day long from those who should know better, let alone those practicing shade tree medicine.

I wouldn't get so irritated save for the missed diagnosis, wasted time and massive numbers of drug resistant bugs, brought on by injudicious ding-dong prescribing, particulary by third world pharmacists and travelers who don't know that "being sick" means a wide spectrum of things.

So let's exercise a little freaking caution shall we? Or, if your only tool is a hammer you'll treat everything like a nail. Or next time your car breaks down replace the starter even if the problem's in the distributor. Or research causes of fluoroquinalone resistant gonorrhea in Asia.

Adios, I'm off to give my 'ho her sixth orgasm of my session (as usual). She was so enthralled with BocaGrande (my nic to "the ladies") I was able to bang this report out between O's. Every time she finishes she screams "mas dinero" so I know I nailed it.

And so it goes...

Work in healthcare myself- couldn't agree more. This "prophylactic" ingestion of antibiitics is reckless and miguided.

[QUOTE=Growtek; 1213207]Sorry to jump in on this topic a few days late but. Ay yi yi.

Get sick, take a Z pack. Damn, medicine is SO SIMPLE.

Parainfluenza virus, coronavirus, rhinorvirus, adenovirus, respiratory syncitial virus, influenza A and B.

What do these have in common other than being part of the 65%+ of upper respirator infections? ALL of them will make you sick, SOME of them may kill you, NONE of them will be helped by an antibiotic.

Also, what if you have an atopic allergy (non infectious, allergen based)? What system do you think gets activated? The little' ol' thing we call an immune system. The end pathways have common mediators, which is why patients come in saying "I have a lousy immune system. I get sick all the time". Surprise your immune system is working overtime! Guess how many Z packs they've ingested before finding someone who can give them something that actually works.

Last, there's a thing called the placebo effect. Look into it the next time you take your Z pack and feel the healing move through your body. Just like it did every. Time. Before. Like magik!

All these things add up to why medicine is not something you google or plug into a cookbook. It's why good docs clean up bad diagnoses all day long from NPs and PAs, let alone those practicing shade tree medicine.

I wouldn't get so irritated save for the massive numbers of drug resistant bugs, brought on by injudicious prescribing, particulary people who don't know that "being sick" means a wide spectrum of things.

So let's exercise a little freaking caution shall we? Or, if your only tool is a hammer you'll treat everything like a nail. Or next time your car breaks down replace the starter even if the problem's in the distributor.[/QUOTE]

OK, had to chime into the discussion.

I had an (entirely fictional) drug issue in Colombia.

So just to get this out of the way I like to smokea the herb, legal non intoxicating supplements in case anyone's listening.

I don't make a big deal out of it, if it's there it's there, if not then I do without.

I had a very nice chica who had a connection who got me the very good mix (I was surprised to find almost no hydro) and a very cool cabdriver that drove me locally.

Anyways.

I had a stash in the front of my bag. We were going by bus from CTG to Santa Marta for Semana Santa (Easter weekend).

Anyways, in the middle of nowhere we were pulled over by the Colombian military. The first thing they did is taKe all the baggage off the bus and separate the men from the women.

As they were pulling us off the bus I said to mi amor (maybe looking for reassurance)"You know, there's all that stuff in my bag". I thought she'd reassure me, but her little doe eyes got wide and she said "I KNOW".

That's when I realized I was going to die. Not metaphorically but legally, professionally and physically.

Now imagine, you're off a tourist bus. All your equipaje is in a huge pile. They're frisking dudes in front of you.

At this point since I figured I was screwed I might as well make some small talk. Get to know your who you'll be paying off in advance and generate some good will.

I have enough Spanish to be poorly understood dangerous, so within a few minutes I'm rapping with the military, one is asking me if I can help get his sister a job in California. I'm taking addresses down and all of a sudden it's all good. They did a pat search on everybody but didn't get into the bags and we got of scot free.

Not recommended but good for late night fires. By the way I realize this is a MDE board but this could've happened anywhere.

Hello, all. I am taking a trip to MDE this weekend. I just saw Monday is ALL Saints Day in Colombia. I am just making sure before I get on my flight Thursday Afternoon that everything will be open and MDE will be hopping like normal this weekend.

I made the mistake of going to A latin American country over Semana Santa.Easter one year and the whole country was dead for a week.

I do not want to make a mistake again like that.

Just want to know if ALL will be open and there are no weird liquor laws or early closure laws this weekend. Thanks

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1213255]Hello, all. I am taking a trip to MDE this weekend. I just saw Monday is ALL Saints Day in Colombia. I am just making sure before I get on my flight Thursday Afternoon that everything will be open and MDE will be hopping like normal this weekend.

I made the mistake of going to A latin American country over Semana Santa. Easter one year and the whole country was dead for a week.

I do not want to make a mistake again like that.

Just want to know if ALL will be open and there are no weird liquor laws or early closure laws this weekend. Thanks[/QUOTE]Some of the Fellas who live down Medellin full time might be better judges but from what I've seen when there is a Puente weekend (I think that's what they call it in Col.) Medelliln will be kind of dead. I've been down there for I'd say 8-10 times not knowing it was a long weekend and the party scene was dead! Clubs, bars, Lleres, the streets, dead with tumbleweeds rolling around. Everybody hits up the Finca and once again it's just in my experience IME, this also sucks a big chunk of the Working Girls out of the pool as well. They get hired out for the long weekend. I assume you meant the party scene as you drew a comparison to your Samana Santa experience the regular casas should be open but it will be on a case by case basis; I can't remember if any were open last time this happened to me. Hmmm.

Colombia has a TON of long weekends and not a single one of them is able to tell you what they're for or about! They just know that there is no work and the banks are closed! Some friendly advice; On Thurs & Friday lock up as many girls numbers as you can and have them on stand by for Sun and Mon just in case because if you're looking to party "normally" I don't think it's going to happen or rather as large of a party you'd envision. Good luck, hope this helps and please report back

Slamcity. Thanks for the post. That is actually what I am afraid of. These Latin American countries and there holidays are nuts. I was in El Salvador for New years eve this year thinking it would be a huge party. The exact opposite as everyone stays in their houses with there Family. Or they all leave the city for the beach. It was a ghost town. All bars everything closed!

In anycase, We will be there from Thurs night to Sunday morning so hopefully Friday and Saturday night will be normal.

As long as the chicas are around and plentifull in the strip clubs, Medellin Mansion, Mayorsita et I am happy!

A lot of the Apt rentals and also hotels are very full so that may or not be a sign. It has been hard booking one. Even the mansion es completely full.

Well, I guess its too late now as I bought my ticket last night and so did my friend off to the airport I go.

If anyone else has any advice let me know. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Crankdownonit;1213378]Went on a ************ tour last night to a bunch of cool places including a place where everybody openly parties on. From there hit some strip clubs and casas. The cool park where everyone was high was great for a couple vodkas and fresh OJ's and music from back in the day![/QUOTE]That's awesome, thanks for this! Good lookin out!

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1213418]Slamcity. Thanks for the post. That is actually what I am afraid of. These Latin American countries and there holidays are nuts. I was in El Salvador for New years eve this year thinking it would be a huge party. The exact opposite as everyone stays in their houses with there Family. Or they all leave the city for the beach. It was a ghost town. All bars everything closed!

In anycase, We will be there from Thurs night to Sunday morning so hopefully Friday and Saturday night will be normal.

As long as the chicas are around and plentifull in the strip clubs, Medellin Mansion, Mayorsita et I am happy!

A lot of the Apt rentals and also hotels are very full so that may or not be a sign. It has been hard booking one. Even the mansion es completely full.

Well, I guess its too late now as I bought my ticket last night and so did my friend off to the airport I go.

If anyone else has any advice let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]This weekend will be business as usual in Medellin with a 3 day weekend as Monday being a Festivo "all saints day" Many people will try to get away somewhere if they can afford it. A lot of my boys and lady friends are leaving tonight to the coast. Besides that? Medellin will be on a regular debauchery schedule LOL. If you are worried about not finding anything good for Sunday Monday, you better stock up on good puta performers digits prior.

Miami Heat. Thanks- I kind of figured things at least Fri and Sat would be business as usual with Sunday and Monday dead. We are leaving Sunday AM so hopefully I'm good.

One more question. We are staying in an Apartment and was told there is No Ac in most Medellin apartments including this one. Last 3 times I was there I stayed in a hotel with AC.

Climate seemed fine at night but during the day it was warm.

I am assuming with just a fan in the bedroom and the windows open we should still be okay. Any thoughts.

My buddy Jeff is a AC baby, and he has no problem in Medellin with the ceiling fan on sleeping. Not even windows open. If you must have AC, maybe a hotel with AC is the way to go? Best part of living in Medellin is no need for AC or heaters. This might be a question for the sub topic of hotels and apartments and not under reports.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1213484]Miami Heat. Thanks- I kind of figured things at least Fri and Sat would be business as usual with Sunday and Monday dead. We are leaving Sunday AM so hopefully I'm good.

One more question. We are staying in an Apartment and was told there is No Ac in most Medellin apartments including this one. Last 3 times I was there I stayed in a hotel with AC.

Climate seemed fine at night but during the day it was warm.

I am assuming with just a fan in the bedroom and the windows open we should still be okay. Any thoughts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1213484]Miami Heat. Thanks- I kind of figured things at least Fri and Sat would be business as usual with Sunday and Monday dead. We are leaving Sunday AM so hopefully I'm good.

One more question. We are staying in an Apartment and was told there is No Ac in most Medellin apartments including this one. Last 3 times I was there I stayed in a hotel with AC.

Climate seemed fine at night but during the day it was warm.

I am assuming with just a fan in the bedroom and the windows open we should still be okay. Any thoughts.[/QUOTE]Medellin as a city has some of the strangest inconsistent weather of any country I have visited. It changes daily and even hourly sometimes, from hot and sunny to dark, cold, rainy and windy in a span of hours. It is so strange and people talk of "rainy seasons" For me? This 2011 was the year of the rain. It rained so freaking much, sometimes all day and all night for weeks. I have never seen so many streets and sides of mountains washed away from the rain erosion. I kinda laugh at the guys trying to cement the sides of these mountain i was like "if mother nature wants to take that concrete along with the side of the mountain, shes gonna do it easily"

This in turn would make things windy, cooler and bearable for me. Usually though when there is no rain and no wind the air becomes very stagnant and uncomfortable for me and I long for AC or at least a FAN to put on me and blow the air around. They call Medellin the city of the Eternal Spring but being from Miami I don't know how they do it all year long without A / C or even ceiling fans. I rent many apartments in MDE and none of them had neither so I had to beg the rental companies for one or NOW? I bring my own fan, believe me it makes all the difference for me in the day and at night when I'm trying to sleep.

Thanks for the great input. If the apt doesn't have a fan I will run to store and buy one. Can't sleep without one. Especially after a night of passionate love making. Yeah right!

[QUOTE=Mfins;1213506]Thanks for the great input. If the apt doesn't have a fan I will run to store and buy one. Can't sleep without one. Especially after a night of passionate love making. Yeah right![/QUOTE]Thats why I bring my own, I ran to Exito and the cheapest one they had which was really Chinese crapola was like 85k and then I said to myself I'm not taking this shit back home with me and I'm for sure not going to leave it with the management who promised me a fan and never delivered to let some other monger use it.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1212653]You can't put up with a girl your paying 100K for an hour to talk on the phone for 15 minutes. Really that is outragous. Your friend needed to say something to the girl about it, and if she still did not get off the phone than the jeffe should have been informed of this on his way out the door.

As far as the casa's they are good value, and all that, but not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Heya Johnny G, speaking of your cup of tea, I've been on the ground running here in Medellin, met up with Lucky Eddy at the Mayo last night, had some good fun. Lucky is a cool cat.

Promised myself I wasn't going to fall in love on this trip, I've got too many "novias" between Brazil and Cali and Medellin already hahaha, but of course I met another angel last night. Downright beautiful.

Spent all last night with her, then today running around and hangin at the park with her and her hijo.

Oh well, you only live once, and I'm a quality over quantity type anyway.

Take care amigos, off and runnin'

Tired of paying $50-60 USD for driver pickup, opted for microbus to san diego (7k cop) then taxi to mayorista (just over 10k cop) where I'm staying.

Mayo:

Took a mayo walk after a quick shower. Dissapointed. It's only 5pm.

After 2 hours of eating & settling in some more went back. Took carolina for 30k. In the street dark she looked doable: thin, nice face. Better light showed a beaky nose but what the hell, I'm not boinking her nose. Nice enough but mechanical. No 2nd's for me, thank you.

Fase dos:

Got there right before 9pm. 10k to see 4-5 girls texting, popping gum or gossiping while security is watching soccer on tv.

Runway empty. Hey, just like home at a neighborhood bar.

5k for an oj.

Couple of girls almost doable, that's it.

Handful of girls report for duty. Even in street clothes some have potentail. One caught my eye for the wrong reason. I swear she looked like she was wearing depends under those jeans. Nope. Her outfit revealed a HUGE ass.

Finally, they fire up the runway at 10pm. 1st girl ok but not 170k ok, after dance she got 2k from me to go away.

2nd girl: blagh. I'm out of there.

Got to remember: don't go to fase dos before 10pm. (they open at 6pm, why?)

Back to mayo:

Found paola (I think) for 30k. Nice face & bod. Kinda shitty attitude. Lousy lay. Shoulda quit while I was kind of ahead.

Some time in the eve. Guy rings doorbell at frank's ¨my place¨ looking for his friend. Couldn't help him.

If it was one of you guys, sorry I wasn't too chatty, mostly being cautious.

Off to hunt for woozle.

A friend of mine told me about a place called El Hanger however I have not seen any reference to it with all the posts I have read. Can anyone tell me if this place really exists?

[QUOTE=Colombia Jake;1213751]Took some guys around last night to help them find what they were looking for.[/QUOTE]I'd hate to even speculate what that could have been, Gentlemen, HE'SSSSSS BAAAAAAACKKKK, je je je

Went to a place this afternoon called Exclusively for Men. In MetroCentro Rio sur. Its a legit massage place and we were not looking for extras. Just a great massage and they provided. The girls that were in there were 20-25 and all smoking hot. The massage is completely nude for the clients. They certainly brushed by the Hammer many times and the massage is excellent. I doubt she would have done anything extra if I asked although maybe for the right money but we were just looking for a good teaser for tonights festivities and they provided. 30, 000 pesos for a solid 65 minutes.

Nice and relaxing way to spend an hour.

In the apartment at night a fan and open window is great during the day when the sun is out and directed towards our side of the building its a little warm.

Also, is it just me or do the hot water heaters in these Latin Am. Countries amuse. This is one tiny little wall unit as big as a loaf of bread and the water moves through it and it instantly heats it. It is then directed towards the shower. Not as hot as our US model Water heaters get but good enough. Was in Nicarauga and the hotel we stayed at had this contraption on top of the shower pipe right before the head and it was an electrical thing with all these wires coming out. Just before the water exited the shower head it electrified it and become warm. Saw sparks and heard crackling sometimes. That has to have electrocuted some people.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1211257]I have been secondary'ed at many airports, I have to travel a lot for work plus I have a lot of stamps in my passport and a beard, so yes it happens all the time.

I almost think you can learn about a country's culture through the experience, for example the Canadians cannot even feign severity, they are just too nice.

In Colombia international flights they are almost certainly going to rifle through your carry on and personal item, that is in the primary search. The secondary searches I've been through mostly consisted of a body scan and a series of questions. You go off into another room (in Cartagena it is up some stairs) and it doesn't take that long.

In the USA, it often consists of a second, more thorough search and can also mean going into a little office with an officer. I've always just been asked more specific questions about the purpose of my trip or whatever.

I would not bring back generic meds from Colombia, not because of the risk but because you can just order them straight to your home for a much cheaper price. Just order them and bring them with you, they never check much of anything coming in let alone that (nor do the Colombian authorities give a shit). Coming back you can either check them or just ditch your remaining supply.

More and more I think the focus is on big quantity smugglers of whatever substance and weapons / explosives, small time stuff does not get sweated unless officer hardass finds that marijuana seed in your jean pocket and just HAS to screw you over.[/QUOTE]Wilt.

I am curious is there anything in your past that shows up that causes you to be flagged?

My passport is full of stamps and I have traveled extensively for the last 35 years. I am missing the beard. Kidding.

Never have I been searched, or sent to secondary search in any country. I frequently carry meds purchased outside of the US, Cannabis seed stock or within Europe grass or hash.

I am not advising anyone to break laws, just relaying my experience.

John Gault's advice is golden. Simply 'tourism' is the best answer.

Reading thru the posts on this it appears most people talk way to much.

What I do is none of their business. IMHO there is no reason for a lengthy explanation.

Your right, customs has much bigger things to look for than our 'little boner' pills ect.

Guido88

I don't know the details, but I heard today that a few days ago a visiting Australian guy was shot, robbed and killed during an attempted kidnapping in Belin. If you are a visitor here, STAY ON THE BEATEN PATH!

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The cabbie from the airport told me to put my head down twice when a group of motos passed by. He said sometimes they see a tourist or gringo on the route from the airport in a taxi and will run the taxi off the road or to a stop and steal luggage et. I don't know how prevelant it is but I wasn't that worried.

[QUOTE=Relapse1952; 1213888]I don't know the details, but I heard today that a few days ago a visiting Australian guy was shot, robbed and killed during an attempted kidnapping in Belin. If you are a visitor here, STAY ON THE BEATEN PATH!

Relapse[/QUOTE]Aussie Greg? The Australian dude who rents the apartments? Do you have a link to share with us? The killing of a gringo would have definitely made the front page of el Colombiano or similar and I don't see shit.. http://www.elcolombiano.com/

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1213583]Heya Johnny G, speaking of your cup of tea, I've been on the ground running here in Medellin, met up with Lucky Eddy at the Mayo last night, had some good fun. Lucky is a cool cat.

Promised myself I wasn't going to fall in love on this trip, I've got too many "novias" between Brazil and Cali and Medellin already hahaha, but of course I met another angel last night. Downright beautiful.

Spent all last night with her, then today running around and hangin at the park with her and her hijo.

Oh well, you only live once, and I'm a quality over quantity type anyway.

Take care amigos, off and runnin'[/QUOTE]So you two guys were having a blast while I was suffering in Nicaragua. For a while I thought I was going to make it my secret place, but the terrible interstructure wore me down. Not a day without powere outs and internet down time and holes in the road where you think you may fall to China.

So Mr. Ricker did Lucky show you my roof top spot? Now that Sir is a secret to be kept from the unwashed masses. LOL.

I'm in Medellin for a while, and when I visit I try to take in a game of one of the two Medellin professional teams. One plays tonight. I highly recommend the experience. The energy and excitement of the fans is much more intense than what one experiences at an American professional game. It's a glimpse into Paisa intensity. And, of course, some of the hottest women on earth are in attendance.

Only good energy, amigos

The Alamo was the only one in parque lleras that was showing the bears game last year.

I just called their. Some girl confirmed they're closed.

I asked her if she had any suggestions for this Monday night football & she couldn't help.

Any body have any other suggestions?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1211602]The Alamo Bar has closed and gone out of business. Didn't last very long maybe 7-8 months is all. I like the one in BA, a fun place to go and have a beer, watch a game.[/QUOTE]

In case you haven't heard, stay away at night on Calle 53 (Av. De Grieff) & Carrera 53.

I was there around 9pm last night just leaning on the wall across the street from most of the action, just looking to see what 's what, sipping a mountain dew. I'm thinking:this ain't so bad.

There was a police vehicle sitting there with a cop standing beside it looking like he's waiting for instructions.

No more than 10 minutes after he left, two guys in their mid 20's walked by me. One of them mumbled something. I just shook my head no without looking at him.

They took about 15 steps then one pulled a knife out as they began to turn back.

I pulled against the wall, (not sure why; fight / flight?) the other guy said something & they continued the other way.

Maybe they decided that glass bottle in my hand was a bit of a field leveler.

As I walked across the street I realized I was holding the bottle like he was holding his knife.

Maybe if they had more than a knife, they may've gone thru with what they had in mind.

Took a hot little spinner (don't ask me her name) for 20k & got the fuck out of there.

As I got back to mayo area that now seemed safer, it started to hit me how bad that could've turned out. (it takes me a whole).

Nothing a few shots of agua ardiente couldn't help.

[QUOTE=Relapse1952; 1213888]I don't know the details, but I heard today that a few days ago a visiting Australian guy was shot, robbed and killed during an attempted kidnapping in Belin. If you are a visitor here, STAY ON THE BEATEN PATH!

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Do you have the address? I can't seem to find it.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1213867]Went to a place this afternoon called Exclusively for Men. In MetroCentro Rio sur. Its a legit massage place and we were not looking for extras. Just a great massage and they provided. The girls that were in there were 20-25 and all smoking hot. The massage is completely nude for the clients. They certainly brushed by the Hammer many times and the massage is excellent. I doubt she would have done anything extra if I asked although maybe for the right money but we were just looking for a good teaser for tonights festivities and they provided. 30, 000 pesos for a solid 65 minutes.

Nice and relaxing way to spend an hour.

In the apartment at night a fan and open window is great during the day when the sun is out and directed towards our side of the building its a little warm.

Also, is it just me or do the hot water heaters in these Latin Am. Countries amuse. This is one tiny little wall unit as big as a loaf of bread and the water moves through it and it instantly heats it. It is then directed towards the shower. Not as hot as our US model Water heaters get but good enough. Was in Nicarauga and the hotel we stayed at had this contraption on top of the shower pipe right before the head and it was an electrical thing with all these wires coming out. Just before the water exited the shower head it electrified it and become warm. Saw sparks and heard crackling sometimes. That has to have electrocuted some people.[/QUOTE]

LT,

I was attending games at the stadium when all you gringos were to scared to go!

The DIM tv show even came to the old Medellin Mansion to inverview me with the DIM logo in my swimming pool.

I attended a game here in Cali last Wednesday night to see my beloved DIM "Medellin rojos" play Calias America.

I left just before injury time losing 1 nil. Well after I left we scored 2 goals in injury time and ended up winning 2. 1

The poor Calinas! Who were signing all night Paisa Putas! Which I agree with, there all putas!

Aussie Greg.

P. S. How about another Casa Blanca Cali!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1214137]I'm in Medellin for a while, and when I visit I try to take in a game of one of the two Medellin professional teams. One plays tonight. I highly recommend the experience. The energy and excitement of the fans is much more intense than what one experiences at an American professional game. It's a glimpse into Paisa intensity. And, of course, some of the hottest women on earth are in attendance.

Only good energy, amigos[/QUOTE]

You should know mate, you have been robbed/drugged and nearly all other gringos living in Medellin and Colombia.
Every Colombian that I know have been robbed at gunpoint.
My lattest girlfriend was attacked after she got off a bus, left on the strret for a couple of hours before a person found her and called the police and she spent two nights in hospital. She asked me to buy her another telephone and I said fuck you, youll get robbed again !!

A. G.

[QUOTE=Relapse1952; 1213888]I don't know the details, but I heard today that a few days ago a visiting Australian guy was shot, robbed and killed during an attempted kidnapping in Belin. If you are a visitor here, STAY ON THE BEATEN PATH!

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Druggy, more and more westerners are coming here for drugs, pitty.

A.G.

[QUOTE=Colombia Jake;1213751]Took some guys around last night to help them find what they were looking for. They wanted to party so we went to a cool party area and after a good buzz was on we locked on to these hippy rock and roll party girls. Good times![/QUOTE]

Not the greatest night last night. First off the taxis have no idea where they are going. Easily spent 2 hours of the night driving in circles and I had the directions for each place we went to written down. First was a resteraunt in Palms Mall. Had the address dude had no idea where to go. I asked him please call the resteraunt (which I had the number) and he refused to use his cell. Instead he just drove around and tried to find it.

Second we took a cab from there and tried to stop by the Medellin Mansion. Two different takis couldn't find it and I had the address. Not the phone number though. Horrible.

Finally gave up on trying to find the mansion and went to San Diego Strip club. Not great. No cover but a three beer minimum. Had one beer paid for 3 and left.

Next stop Luna Lunera. My favorite back in the day. $10, 000 peso cover. 4 beer minimum per person. Four beers totaled. 55, 000 pesos. I asked why they said they had a promotion at midnight a lesbian show. The place was packed. Ofcourse being from the US every strip club has a lesbian show although its not really a show its just a normal thing. So I was not impressed. Found a nice spinner there. Sat with her in a booth and she fired up a joint. She wasnt the only one smoking in the club out in the open. Interesting. Ordered a bottle of tequila 185, 000 for Cuervo 1800 wayyy over priced but my buddy and I wanted to get drunk. Waited untill 2 am as she said if we waited untill her and her friend were off work we wouldn't have to pay the $150, 000 exit fee. Sat and waited 2:00 came her and her friend got dressed and we arranged to meet them a block up the street. Five minutes later she came back and said the boss wouldn't let her leave, so we ended up paying 300, 000 for her and that included the exit fee. My friend paid the same for his. It was for TLN and at this point I was pretty hammered. Decided to stop by the casino on the way back to the Apt. Proceeded to lose 2, 000, 000 pesos in about 15 minutes. Pissed we left went back to the Apartment did the deed twice and she left at 8am. Not a bad night but It gets very tiring paying these ridiculous prices down here. Are all the patrons in the club paying the cover and the high beer prices. I guess so. I don't go to the casas or the one hour love hotels, so I just really don't see any other way to avoid it down here. If anyone has any advice other than the obvious which would be go to a room in the club for 30 minutes or go to a cheaper club (with less quality) or go to Mayorista let me know. I would be happy to hear it. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1214200]Not the greatest night last night. First off the taxis have no idea where they are going. Easily spent 2 hours of the night driving in circles and I had the directions for each place we went to written down. First was a resteraunt in Palms Mall. Had the address dude had no idea where to go. I asked him please call the resteraunt (which I had the number) and he refused to use his cell. Instead he just drove around and tried to find it.

Second we took a cab from there and tried to stop by the Medellin Mansion. Two different takis couldn't find it and I had the address. Not the phone number though. Horrible.

Finally gave up on trying to find the mansion and went to San Diego Strip club. Not great. No cover but a three beer minimum. Had one beer paid for 3 and left.

Next stop Luna Lunera. My favorite back in the day. $10, 000 peso cover. 4 beer minimum per person. Four beers totaled. 55, 000 pesos. I asked why they said they had a promotion at midnight a lesbian show. The place was packed. Ofcourse being from the US every strip club has a lesbian show although its not really a show its just a normal thing. So I was not impressed. Found a nice spinner there. Sat with her in a booth and she fired up a joint. She wasnt the only one smoking in the club out in the open. Interesting. Ordered a bottle of tequila 185, 000 for Cuervo 1800 wayyy over priced but my buddy and I wanted to get drunk. Waited untill 2 am as she said if we waited untill her and her friend were off work we wouldn't have to pay the $150, 000 exit fee. Sat and waited 2:00 came her and her friend got dressed and we arranged to meet them a block up the street. Five minutes later she came back and said the boss wouldn't let her leave, so we ended up paying 300, 000 for her and that included the exit fee. My friend paid the same for his. It was for TLN and at this point I was pretty hammered. Decided to stop by the casino on the way back to the Apt. Proceeded to lose 2, 000, 000 pesos in about 15 minutes. Pissed we left went back to the Apartment did the deed twice and she left at 8am. Not a bad night but It gets very tiring paying these ridiculous prices down here. Are all the patrons in the club paying the cover and the high beer prices. I guess so. I don't go to the casas or the one hour love hotels, so I just really don't see any other way to avoid it down here. If anyone has any advice other than the obvious which would be go to a room in the club for 30 minutes or go to a cheaper club (with less quality) or go to Mayorista let me know. I would be happy to hear it. Thanks![/QUOTE]Mfins. Dude, you've got that kind of bucks to blow on CO pussy and the casinos down there, damn where did I go wrong in my career choice. Urrrrrrrrr!

MFins, if you're buying bottle service and gambling a thousand bucks at these bullshit little tables at the casinos here, I think you know where to start in saving money LOL.

At the Centro strip joints you should not pay a dime over 200K TLN including multa. SW 100K, including Mayo. Elsewhere, best bet is to make plans with the girls away from work.

The beers and covers and shit, I don't know, I guess SD has a cover now. Fase II has a cover. Those are inevitable. I have never been charged a cover anywhere else. How much were the beers? Standard is like 5K per beer and 10K for chica's drinks, that seems to be a standard in some other cities as well.

There were no chica drinks to be bought at luna although my chica never asked for one and the Musera didn't pressure. So I don't know.

It was rougly $7. 50 a beer. And the minimum was four at a time. Its just hard for me to believe these other patrons are buying this. Unless they are just buying a bottle of Aguadiente and nursing it all night.

Calling an old stand by tonight and going for dinner and drinks. She won't ask for money just some chips in the casino although that may cost me more in the long run.

At least for the first night The quality here wasnt worth the price.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1214234]At least for the first night The quality here wasnt worth the price.[/QUOTE]Used to be. Try negotiating a little more if you're into it but you definitely have the C. R. High Roller mentality. A lot of the hotter prepagos have moved "underground" and work on referrals and are the friends of friends and friend of other prepagos who are trying to make some extra money for their kids, school or Christmas.

Next p4p you get with who's HOT ask her if she has any friends who need money. All of them will say yesss! But make sure you tell her that her friend must be amazing as well and to not disappoint you!

I wasn't aware you could just "stop by" the Mansion anyways unless you know boyd, the aussie or Medellin bob.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1214200]Not the greatest night last night. First off the taxis have no idea where they are going. Easily spent 2 hours of the night driving in circles and I had the directions for each place we went to written down. First was a resteraunt in Palms Mall. Had the address dude had no idea where to go. I asked him please call the resteraunt (which I had the number) and he refused to use his cell. Instead he just drove around and tried to find it.

Second we took a cab from there and tried to stop by the Medellin Mansion. Two different takis couldn't find it and I had the address. Not the phone number though. Horrible.

Finally gave up on trying to find the mansion and went to San Diego Strip club. Not great. No cover but a three beer minimum. Had one beer paid for 3 and left.

Next stop Luna Lunera. My favorite back in the day. $10, 000 peso cover. 4 beer minimum per person. Four beers totaled. 55, 000 pesos. I asked why they said they had a promotion at midnight a lesbian show. The place was packed. Ofcourse being from the US every strip club has a lesbian show although its not really a show its just a normal thing. So I was not impressed. Found a nice spinner there. Sat with her in a booth and she fired up a joint. She wasnt the only one smoking in the club out in the open. Interesting. Ordered a bottle of tequila 185, 000 for Cuervo 1800 wayyy over priced but my buddy and I wanted to get drunk. Waited untill 2 am as she said if we waited untill her and her friend were off work we wouldn't have to pay the $150, 000 exit fee. Sat and waited 2:00 came her and her friend got dressed and we arranged to meet them a block up the street. Five minutes later she came back and said the boss wouldn't let her leave, so we ended up paying 300, 000 for her and that included the exit fee. My friend paid the same for his. It was for TLN and at this point I was pretty hammered. Decided to stop by the casino on the way back to the Apt. Proceeded to lose 2, 000, 000 pesos in about 15 minutes. Pissed we left went back to the Apartment did the deed twice and she left at 8am. Not a bad night but It gets very tiring paying these ridiculous prices down here. Are all the patrons in the club paying the cover and the high beer prices. I guess so. I don't go to the casas or the one hour love hotels, so I just really don't see any other way to avoid it down here. If anyone has any advice other than the obvious which would be go to a room in the club for 30 minutes or go to a cheaper club (with less quality) or go to Mayorista let me know. I would be happy to hear it. Thanks![/QUOTE]Let me see if I got this right. You paid 300. 000 for a girl which you think the price is too high, I agree but she would never be free so lets say 125. 000 would be a fair price. That's 175. 000 more than what we both agree would be a fair price. But you went to a casino and let them thieving bastards take you for 2. 000. 000 and you're complaining about the price of the girl? If you bounced from the casino after the first five minutes down 500. 000 you would have been much better off amigo. I live five minutes from two of the largest casinos in the world and never step foot in either one of them, now I know why. I'd rather spend it on pussy.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1214137]I'm in Medellin for a while, and when I visit I try to take in a game of one of the two Medellin professional teams. One plays tonight. I highly recommend the experience. The energy and excitement of the fans is much more intense than what one experiences at an American professional game. It's a glimpse into Paisa intensity. And, of course, some of the hottest women on earth are in attendance.

Only good energy, amigos[/QUOTE]Game is Sunday - 11-6

Has anyone here checked out the Envy rooftop bar @ The Charlee hotel in Medellin? Seems like it could be a great party with good music and a beautiful crowd, but I could be completely off. Is it a good spot to meet some of the hotter girls in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1214250]Let me see if I got this right. You paid 300. 000 for a girl which you think the price is too high, I agree but she would never be free so lets say 125. 000 would be a fair price. That's 175. 000 more than what we both agree would be a fair price. But you went to a casino and let them thieving bastards take you for 2. 000. 000 and you're complaining about the price of the girl? If you bounced from the casino after the first five minutes down 500. 000 you would have been much better off amigo. I live five minutes from two of the largest casinos in the world and never step foot in either one of them, now I know why. I'd rather spend it on pussy.[/QUOTE]Yeah when I read that report, something didn't add up, LOL. First of all, it's not good to gamble when you're really hammered; last time I hung out with my buddy (in the casino in Oviedo mall) who likes to gamble, he left the place with over a million pesos in winnings after playing for about an hour. He only had a few drinks although he got totally destroyed later that night, LOL. It really shouldn't be too hard to make some money in these casinos; most of the locals aren't good gamblers when it comes to the poker table, and even if you don't win big, it should be almost impossible to lose by that much (which is crazy because it could mark you in that venue as an easy target or for a potential robbery, makes you look like a big spender / sucker). I have a funny feeling this guy was scammed both at the poker table and in the club (luna lunera) ; the girl gave him some bs story, it may even never have been her intention to let him leave without paying the salida.

When the story changes at the last minute, you got to hold your ground (and your pride) and just say no problema llamame manana (no problem, call me tomorrow). See if you can arrange a daytime meeting. Once she realizes you're not an easy mark, she'll either eject or compromise; either way it's to your advantage, if she ejects, then you know right then it wouldn't have been that good of a session anyway.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1214184]Druggy, more and more westerners are coming here for drugs, pitty.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Aussie,

Thanks to the internet and perceptions that Colombia is now as safe as Costa Rica due to setbacks suffered by the insurgency, you can expect a lot more Western hippie types showing up in your neighborhood looking for cheap cocaine and flea ridden street-stalkers. What is the Mansion's policy on the admission of guests who are dope fiends?

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1214200]Not the greatest night last night. First off the taxis have no idea where they are going. Easily spent 2 hours of the night driving in circles and I had the directions for each place we went to written down. First was a resteraunt in Palms Mall. Had the address dude had no idea where to go. I asked him please call the resteraunt (which I had the number) and he refused to use his cell. Instead he just drove around and tried to find it.

Second we took a cab from there and tried to stop by the Medellin Mansion. Two different takis couldn't find it and I had the address. Not the phone number though. Horrible.

Finally gave up on trying to find the mansion and went to San Diego Strip club. Not great. No cover but a three beer minimum. Had one beer paid for 3 and left.

Next stop Luna Lunera. My favorite back in the day. $10, 000 peso cover. 4 beer minimum per person. Four beers totaled. 55, 000 pesos. I asked why they said they had a promotion at midnight a lesbian show. The place was packed. Ofcourse being from the US every strip club has a lesbian show although its not really a show its just a normal thing. So I was not impressed. Found a nice spinner there. Sat with her in a booth and she fired up a joint. She wasnt the only one smoking in the club out in the open. Interesting. Ordered a bottle of tequila 185, 000 for Cuervo 1800 wayyy over priced but my buddy and I wanted to get drunk. Waited untill 2 am as she said if we waited untill her and her friend were off work we wouldn't have to pay the $150, 000 exit fee. Sat and waited 2:00 came her and her friend got dressed and we arranged to meet them a block up the street. Five minutes later she came back and said the boss wouldn't let her leave, so we ended up paying 300, 000 for her and that included the exit fee. My friend paid the same for his. It was for TLN and at this point I was pretty hammered. Decided to stop by the casino on the way back to the Apt. Proceeded to lose 2, 000, 000 pesos in about 15 minutes. Pissed we left went back to the Apartment did the deed twice and she left at 8am. Not a bad night but It gets very tiring paying these ridiculous prices down here. Are all the patrons in the club paying the cover and the high beer prices. I guess so. I don't go to the casas or the one hour love hotels, so I just really don't see any other way to avoid it down here. If anyone has any advice other than the obvious which would be go to a room in the club for 30 minutes or go to a cheaper club (with less quality) or go to Mayorista let me know. I would be happy to hear it. Thanks![/QUOTE]Really?

Advice: meet chicas (wherever) , bond, be nice, get their digits, call them later, waaaah-laaaah, good times, easy pricing.

I'm now in Medellin, not even actively seeking new chicas, but you just can't help it, so many sweethearts, so little time, only one pene haha.

No reason at all to play the fool, plenty of chicas looking to please on the side.

Good luck

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1213906]So you two guys were having a blast while I was suffering in Nicaragua. For a while I thought I was going to make it my secret place, but the terrible interstructure wore me down. Not a day without powere outs and internet down time and holes in the road where you think you may fall to China.

So Mr. Ricker did Lucky show you my roof top spot? Now that Sir is a secret to be kept from the unwashed masses. LOL.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your Nica troubles senor JG.

I have fond memories of Central America, but have moved south these days.

Nope, Lucky didn't give up your secret roof top spot, but we had a blast.

I met a real beauty at the Mayo, had to break her in haha.

Interesting girl as she turns down at least 80-90 percent of guys that approach her.

I got my foot in the door with a box of chocolates, and then won her with the charm. Though I'm usually a sapo, I had a good carma goin' on that night haha

Now she runs to me when she sees me and spend a few hours together.

Met another sweetheart last night, offered her some dinner, we sat and chatted, showed her my "nice guy" face, and then she killed me with love and carino for a couple hours.

All in all, a great time in Medellin. Leaving soon for my hideout in Brazil. Maybe one-day I'll let you in on the not-so-traveled hideaway, but definitely not for the masses as you say haha.

I've seen and met plenty of other gringos on this viaje to Medellin.

Some cool dudes and some some not, and a few real "strangeoooos".

I've actually had guys come up to me and ask me how I got this chica or that chica to sit and talk with me or leave with me.

It's really not that difficult, it's just simply being nice to them, really. Treat them like a human being, a sweet young girl, make them laugh, have them feel comfortable.

Huge difference between a 20 minute boom boom session and a 2-3 hour love session, which is what you'll get with just a little personality, and the price between the 2 is not that great.

Good luck amigos ..

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1214179]You should know mate, you have been robbed / drugged and nearly all other gringos living in Medellin and Colombia.

Every Colombian that I know have been robbed at gunpoint.

My lattest girlfriend was attacked after she got off a bus, left on the strret for a couple of hours before a person found her and called the police and she spent two nights in hospital. She asked me to buy her another telephone and I said fuck you, youll get robbed again!

A. G.[/QUOTE]Fortunately, only robbed at my condo, Plaza Alejandria. Yes, you are correct, everyone of us who live here have at one time or another been robbed, drugged or both. A little funny, fortunately no one was hurt, but a few guys have been robbed up to 4 or 5 times.

Hope all is well!

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[QUOTE=Relapse1952; 1214462]Fortunately, only robbed at my condo, Plaza Alejandria. Yes, you are correct, everyone of us who live here have at one time or another been robbed, drugged or both. A little funny, fortunately no one was hurt, but a few guys have been robbed up to 4 or 5 times.

Hope all is well!

Relapse[/QUOTE]I read with interest about this muggings and being drugged.

Are these situations of being in the wrong place looking for women?

Going to the market in the daytime?

Home or apartment invasions?

Being flashy, riding public transportation?

I don't consider myself a lucky person, but have been to Brazil, Cartagena, Colombian, Mexico, Jamacai, Thailand and a few others and never been mugged, or drugged, yet enjoying the night life in these said countries, what's going on in Medellin that is so different?

I ask since I will be there for a month next year, and it won't frighten me off from coming, but could some of these incidents been avoided?

Just a open question no insults intended

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Nowrath; 1214476]I read with interest about this muggings and being drugged.

Are these situations of being in the wrong place looking for women?

Going to the market in the daytime?

Home or apartment invasions?

Being flashy, riding public transportation?

I don't consider myself a lucky person, but have been to Brazil, Cartagena, Colombian, Mexico, Jamacai, Thailand and a few others and never been mugged, or drugged, yet enjoying the night life in these said countries, what's going on in Medellin that is so different?

I ask since I will be there for a month next year, and it won't frighten me off from coming, but could some of these incidents been avoided?

Just a open question no insults intended

Nowrath[/QUOTE]Nowrath,

Colombia is a wonderful country with many, many fine, wonderful people. There is though a small level of indigenous rif-raf here who will jump at any opportunity to get a buck. My case, I happened 2. 5 years ago. I had lived at Plaza Alejandria 3 years. One night my door bell rang and without looking out the door's security hole or realizing the Porteros had not called me, I opened my door. Well damn, I was greeted by 3 Colombians with pistols pointed at me. Had it just been 3 Colombians we'd had a hell of a brawl, but being a gun nut myself and realizing I was instantly out gunned, I just said Howdy! The only comfort I had was I had heard Colombian burglers weren't violent. They just wished to take things and depart. When they found my cell phone I spoke up and told them I needed my sim card. I'll be damn they took the sim card out of my phone and laid it on a table. The whole episode cost me $7, 500. Dollars, and 2 new Porteros got fired.

No, one doesn't judge a country by a few assholes. Hell, my business in Kentucky was robbed twice and my house once. Realize though, we are Gringos or nonindigenous rif-raf, and we do stick put like the perverbial sore thumb.

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Mansion policy? Well when I'm there anyway.

I'll call the drug squad with there sniffer dogs if I find out if there is any dugs are on my property.

I get a high out of life, poor bastards who need extra shit to help themselves.

A. G.

QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1214435]Aussie,

Thanks to the internet and perceptions that Colombia is now as safe as Costa Rica due to setbacks suffered by the insurgency, you can expect a lot more Western hippie types showing up in your neighborhood looking for cheap cocaine and flea ridden street-stalkers. What is the Mansion's policy on the admission of guests who are dope fiends?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1214250]Let me see if I got this right. You paid 300. 000 for a girl which you think the price is too high, I agree but she would never be free so lets say 125. 000 would be a fair price. That's 175. 000 more than what we both agree would be a fair price. But you went to a casino and let them thieving bastards take you for 2. 000. 000 and you're complaining about the price of the girl? If you bounced from the casino after the first five minutes down 500. 000 you would have been much better off amigo. I live five minutes from two of the largest casinos in the world and never step foot in either one of them, now I know why. I'd rather spend it on pussy.[/QUOTE]It wasn't the chica price that bothered me it was more the idiot taxistas and the ridiculous drink prices. 300, 000 for TLN is fine. However also getting the run around and waiting for her to get off work for a cheaper price only to be told when the time came for her to leave that she couldn't was annoying.

[QUOTE=Phunluv; 1214306]Yeah when I read that report, something didn't add up, LOL. First of all, it's not good to gamble when you're really hammered; last time I hung out with my buddy (in the casino in Oviedo mall) who likes to gamble, he left the place with over a million pesos in winnings after playing for about an hour. He only had a few drinks although he got totally destroyed later that night, LOL. It really shouldn't be too hard to make some money in these casinos; most of the locals aren't good gamblers when it comes to the poker table, and even if you don't win big, it should be almost impossible to lose by that much (which is crazy because it could mark you in that venue as an easy target or for a potential robbery, makes you look like a big spender / sucker). I have a funny feeling this guy was scammed both at the poker table and in the club (luna lunera) ; the girl gave him some bs story, it may even never have been her intention to let him leave without paying the salida.

When the story changes at the last minute, you got to hold your ground (and your pride) and just say no problema llamame manana (no problem, call me tomorrow). See if you can arrange a daytime meeting. Once she realizes you're not an easy mark, she'll either eject or compromise; either way it's to your advantage, if she ejects, then you know right then it wouldn't have been that good of a session anyway.[/QUOTE]I think you are interperiting my post wrong or maybe it comes across wrong the way I wrote it. No one scammed me. (although maybe the price of the drinks) I lost in the casino. It happens thats not the issue. I enjoy playing and do it when I am on Vacation. Sometimes I win. More often than not I lose. I play black jack.

The girl gave a good session. It was just the total hassle of everything. Taxis et. Then the switcheroo with the price. I had already invested my night into this girl and wasnt going to go home to my hand. I agree if I didn't care one way or the other I would have just played hard ball but I wanted to bang this girl.

The hassle of the night and the cost wasnt worth it for the quality available. I guess thats my point.

Saturday Night had a better night with my old stand by. I went to Face dos with her and my buddy. Some hotties but still wasnt great quality. Drinks were actually reasonable. My buddy took one out of the club.

Went to San Diego again. Better quality fun time.

Did not go back to Luna Lunera.

Will never get used to leaving the Medellin airport. Long lines huge security got pulled into a room and had two drug dogs sniff everything except my balls. Took an hour or more.

Only went to MDE for 3 days so maybe some of you guys who go and stay longer its not as bad but, I really find Medellin a little on the difficult side.

One more thing. We called Medellin Mansion Sat night as we wanted to stop by check the place out and see if there were any girls hanging around like I have read on the forums.

Was told by the Security Guard who answered the phone that unless I was staying at the hotel I could not go in. I didn't know that was the policy but I certainly Understand it.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1214579]One more thing. We called Medellin Mansion Sat night as we wanted to stop by check the place out and see if there were any girls hanging around like I have read on the forums.

Was told by the Security Guard who answered the phone that unless I was staying at the hotel I could not go in. I didn't know that was the policy but I certainly Understand it.[/QUOTE]Mfins: You been around long enough to know an FOR ALL THE NEWBIES. If you are not staying at CB or MM or what ever you are calling it YOU CAN"T CAN'T CAN'T go and steal their chicks!

I know I tried to to hop the fence and they sicked the DOGS on me!

LOL!

Hotel policy.

Yes we can show non guests around but only during office hours of 10. 00am and 4. 00pm Mon to Frid, please call first for appointment as Alexa is always busy.

As for sticking the dogs onto you, no, only me! Ja ja ja.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1214585]Mfins: You been around long enough to know an FOR ALL THE NEWBIES. If you are not staying at CB or MM or what ever you are calling it YOU CAN"T CAN'T CAN'T go and steal their chicks!

I know I tried to to hop the fence and they sicked the DOGS on me!

LOL![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1214179]You should know mate, you have been robbed / drugged and nearly all other gringos living in Medellin and Colombia.

Every Colombian that I know have been robbed at gunpoint.

My lattest girlfriend was attacked after she got off a bus, left on the strret for a couple of hours before a person found her and called the police and she spent two nights in hospital. She asked me to buy her another telephone and I said fuck you, youll get robbed again!

A. G.[/QUOTE]I know that the obvious correct reaction to being robbed at gun point is to surrender your money and valuables. However, there may be situations where self defense skills would be desirable to know. There are situations where fighting back may be the best option. I would recommend anyone to get basic self defense training such as Krav Maga. We have an excellent school (not Krav Maga) in my area, that is solely how to repel an attacker. It is NOT kung-fu mystical nonsense, but just the nitty gritty basics of survival:

[url]http://youtu.be/dHw40-KnPAg[/url]

[url]http://youtu.be/a3GAxtQ4SCY[/url]

[url]http://youtu.be/NYjk4H-_eU4[/url]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1214840]Hotel policy.

Yes we can show non guests around but only during office hours of 10. 00am and 4. 00pm Mon to Frid, please call first for appointment as Alexa is always busy.

As for sticking the dogs onto you, no, only me! Ja ja ja.

A. G.[/QUOTE]What you talking about? I still have a dog tooth in my butt from when you "released the hounds on me"!

[url]http://youtu.be/JD6lN9FEHao[/url]

LOL!

I stand corrected. But the girls are not there at that time correct or the visitors can't take the girls? Or can they? I'd imagine the main draw for a non guest / visitor would be the girls and not so much the decorations.

For example if I wanted to come and scoop a chick during office hours that would be a no correct?

Just curious, in what situations would fighting back be better than let money be robbed? Thanks.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1214843]I know that the obvious correct reaction to being robbed at gun point is to surrender your money and valuables. However, there may be situations where self defense skills would be desirable to know. There are situations where fighting back may be the best option. I would recommend anyone to get basic self defense training such as Krav Maga. We have an excellent school (not Krav Maga) in my area, that is solely how to repel an attacker. It is NOT kung-fu mystical nonsense, but just the nitty gritty basics of survival:

[url]http://youtu.be/dHw40-KnPAg[/url]

[url]http://youtu.be/a3GAxtQ4SCY[/url]

[url]http://youtu.be/NYjk4H-_eU4[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1214514]Mansion policy? Well when I'm there anyway.

I'll call the drug squad with there sniffer dogs if I find out if there is any dugs are on my property.

I get a high out of life, poor bastards who need extra shit to help themselves.

A. G.

QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1214435]Aussie,

Thanks to the internet and perceptions that Colombia is now as safe as Costa Rica due to setbacks suffered by the insurgency, you can expect a lot more Western hippie types showing up in your neighborhood looking for cheap cocaine and flea ridden street-stalkers. What is the Mansion's policy on the admission of guests who are dope fiends?[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Got to call Bullshit on this one. What you call being high on line is being a lush, and a mean one at that. No problem with not wanting to keep illegal drugs off your property, but I personally witnessed you being an asshole to several people while drunk. Save us the "high on life" sanctamoneous bullshit. I love your place, but you treat people like shit-thank god for Boyd and Robert. Many of us stay in spite of you, not because of you.

[QUOTE=Midwest; 1214150]The Alamo was the only one in parque lleras that was showing the bears game last year.

I just called their. Some girl confirmed they're closed.

I asked her if she had any suggestions for this Monday night football & she couldn't help.

Any body have any other suggestions?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]There is a Hostel across from the Crepes and Waffles in zona rosa that has direct tv and shows all the games. They only have 4 tvs one being a big screen but if you ask them they will put any game on you want. They have the NFL package. I don't remember the name but its a really nice Hostel in a very nice area

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1214970]Just curious, in what situations would fighting back be better than let money be robbed? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just a wild guess but it would probably NOT be better to fight back when you open your apartment door and 3 colombian guys are pointing guns at you, LOL! Just goes to show you can never truly let your guard down; if I'm an apartment owner or renter in MDE or some other colombian city, you better be on good first-name terms with your porteros and remember anytime there's a change in the routine at the front desk, like a new portero, there's an opportunity for trouble. If you're going to stay in MDE for awhile, you've got to be on top of that. There's a saying down there that goes like "papaya dada, papaya partida"; it's hard to translate but what it really means is if you make yourself an easy target, it's like someone MUST take advantage of you. Basically, this country works on the reverse of the Golden Rule, LOL!

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1214843]I know that the obvious correct reaction to being robbed at gun point is to surrender your money and valuables. However, there may be situations where self defense skills would be desirable to know. There are situations where fighting back may be the best option. I would recommend anyone to get basic self defense training such as Krav Maga. We have an excellent school (not Krav Maga) in my area, that is solely how to repel an attacker. It is NOT kung-fu mystical nonsense, but just the nitty gritty basics of survival:

[url]http://youtu.be/dHw40-KnPAg[/url]

[url]http://youtu.be/a3GAxtQ4SCY[/url]

[url]http://youtu.be/NYjk4H-_eU4[/url][/QUOTE]Extremely bad advise in my opinion. I can't think of any situation where fighting back is the BEST option. In a third world country such as Colombia life is very cheap and a thief with a weapon won't hesitate to use it because the likelihood of getting caught and thrown in prison is slim.

[quote=estebanh;1214843]i know that the obvious correct reaction to being robbed at gun point is to surrender your money and valuables. however, there may be situations where self defense skills would be desirable to know. there are situations where fighting back may be the best option. i would recommend anyone to get basic self defense training such as krav maga. we have an excellent school (not krav maga) in my area, that is solely how to repel an attacker. it is not kung-fu mystical nonsense, but just the nitty gritty basics of survival:[/quote]how is this for self defense. i am not a fighter so i try to utilize non violent strategies. here goes:

this took a little while to get used to but now it has become second nature.

i leave a nice chunk of change in my hotel safe. because i know i will likely need it if and when i bring home company.

then i keep a copy of my i'd, maybe one credit card / atm card, large bills and my room key in my wallet. that goes in my sock.

in my right hand pocket, i have all my coins and small bills for taxi, tips and drinks. never much more than 20k.

in my left pocket i keep only a few 20k bills, a vitamin a condon and a little one shot packet of lube.

so my strategy is like this; when in the game, on the playing field, loading my bases, psyching out my opponent, my hand only goes into my right hand pocket. all my tools for leveraging my power are in my right hand. when the pressure is on, no fumbling through all those damn zeros they put on all their money. this goes for dancers, street vendors, taxis, and also holds true for a mugging. right hand pocket would get emptied onto the floor. with loose change and bills rep001tering and i would disappear like batman in a puff of smoke.

any time i need more cash, i can easily pull a 20k out of my left pocket because i know exactly what is there without even looking. if i need any more that that, i will either pretend i don't have it or excuse myself to a private area which also proves beneficial for negotiations. (don't forget, as horny as you may be, they are even more hungry. so, making them wait for you is invaluable)

i would like to add, i often carry a camera as well as a cell phone. in such cases i may use a little camera case like for a point and shoot. mine has several pockets for hiding all sorts of good stuff. i loop it through my belt, kind of on the back of my hip and then it is easily concealed under my shirt.

so, now that you all know my secrets, please don't mug me. in the most unexpected moments, things can get confusing and intense. i hope this helps some dudes to be prepared. i welcome any comments and constructive criticisms.

safety, peace and fun!

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1214843]there may be situations where self defense skills would be desirable to know. There are situations where fighting back may be the best option.[/QUOTE]Yo have two chances of survival when being robbed at gunpoint: 'slim and none'. Man. I miss this man.

I always carry a photocopy (I have three) of my passport. I also take just enough money for drinks, taxis, and food (120usd) a nigt. I wear a fifty dollar watch (good watch is in safe). I have my 20usd Colombian phone (iphone is in safe). I don't wear jewelry of designer clothes. I don't fuck outside my condo, if I see something I like I exchange numbers and bring them to my place later. My doorman knows I walk the girls up and out later. Everything goes in the safe except for the money I will give her later. Don't let her fix you a drink. Hide your laptop until you finish fucking and arent sleeping. When confornted with a robber with a gun or knife, do as they say. You want them to fell comfortable so they don't shoot you. One hesitant moment or smart word can set them off. If they want my 20 dollar phone and cheap watch and a few dollars, they can have it. I'm not trying to go home in a body bag. Just look at it as a donation to charity.

In our game its not just the dudes that will rob you, the girls are part of the setup also.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1214970]Just curious, in what situations would fighting back be better than let money be robbed? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Matt,

Maybe you didn't read my qualifier. If they have a gun or knife, I am handing it all over. If it is some pinche cholo, I will beat the little fuck down.

A knife you can run from, sometimes. A gun, not so much. The one time I had a knife pulled on me, the guy pulled it just a little too soon, maybe 6-8 feet instead of the recommended 3 or 4 feet, and I turned and ran. Most low lifes aren't in very good shape. Was it the right thing to do? I don't know; I just reacted. In general everyone says,"Well, if someone does X, I will do Y." Maybe, but if no one has ever done X to you it's hard to say how you will respond.

Medellín is the only place I have ever been successfully robbed, if you want to call dislocating my jaw to steal 1700 pesos "successful." Maybe ten days later, two guys messed with me right downtown in broad daylight with the cops watching, and I resisted, and the cops did nothing and then threatened to arrest [B]me[/B] for "excessive use of force against a Colombian citizen." Translation: we want a bribe. Also got scammed by a taxista who then called the cops on me. All of this in five weeks. I have been to 30 countries and Medellín is, in my opinion, [B]the[/B] most dangerous place I have been.

Nice weather, though.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1215282]Nice weather, though.[/QUOTE]I believe you're not in Medellin right now. Caught the metro back to Mayo from Parque Berrio, intended to disembark at station Ayura and it was raining like there was no tomorrow the past two days. But the thing was I truly believed the metro skipped Ayura and proceeded to stop only at the next station, Envigado. Or was it me that missed a station given that I was a little tired? So obviously I had to go a U-turn.

Sounds prudent. I hope I am reading right this time. Thanks.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1215211]Matt,

Maybe you didn't read my qualifier. If they have a gun or knife, I am handing it all over. If it is some pinche cholo, I will beat the little fuck down.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ezyngo;1215288]I believe you're not in Medellin right now. Caught the metro back to Mayo from Parque Berrio, intended to disembark at station Ayura and it was raining like there was no tomorrow the past two days. But the thing was I truly believed the metro skipped Ayura and proceeded to stop only at the next station, Envigado. Or was it me that missed a station given that I was a little tired? So obviously I had to go a U-turn.[/QUOTE]At rush hour some of the trains blow right by Ayura, and then stop at Envigado. The first time it happened to me I also thought it was my fault. I'm sure they announce it as the train is pulling up to where you get on, but you need decent Spanish to understand the loudspeaker.

'Business' seemingly remains excellent for Porn Star even though she apparently just picked up another 5 lbs after another every time I saw her. In one of the nights I was at Mayo, I witnessed, with an amazement, that at least 3 guys picked her up within a span of 2 hours. Man. She looks really heavy now. But still hot compared to a majority of girls there in some particularly slow night.

More and more gorditas show up to parade up and down the Mayo sidewalk. A few priced $20K / 30min as I walked by them. They're just not my type.

I picked up a dead fish in one night. Look 7, body 7, and she was exactly my type for those of you that know me. Paid her $20K / 30min after the sex and bye bye.

Last night was particularly exceptional. More girls than guys. Spotted 3 chicas above 7 but did not pick up anyone because I had TLN with 2 non-pros, one new and one favorite, one on each night, on 2 consecutive nights and was exhausted. Only wanted to check out the scene. A few decent chicas (6 or 7) walked by me and demanded $30K for ONE HOUR. I asked them again to confirm and yes, gentlemen, $30K PESOS FOR ONE HOUR. I thought they must have had a SALE going on. JAJAJAJAJA.

I saw a table of 3 or maybe 4 gringos in front of hotel Los Cristales next to hotel Cielo Azul. If they were one or all of you, I salute you. I was standing close to the street and watching how they were operating. I did not see any of them leave with a chica. Wondered why. Very strange.

And Matt. Los Cristales is the hotel next to Cielo Azul, not La Amistad. But I think you and I are the only ones that want to remember these names. Strange again.

Also seen, just like many times before, was another group of 3 good-looking and very young gringos. What in the world were they doing in Mayo, again I thought.

A Colombian guy- better looking than most Colombianos there, from Manizales approached me and asked how much one chica cost. Was informed this was his first time in Mayo. I told him $20K / 30 min. Not longer than 5 minutes, I saw him leave with a chica, probably a 6.

Wow, I don't want to jinx my luck here or make light of any of your experiences but none of these things have ever come remotely close to happening to me.

I have spent close to a year and a half total in Colombia, with much of it being in Medellin and never had a hairy situation with a Colombian. I go places by myself all the time, too, and while I don't tempt fate I am certainly not afraid to go out at night, hang out in a neighborhood (no strata 1 stuff, but 2s, definitely) , etc.

Not once have I been in a confrontation or even felt like I was being sized up in a way that could have led to an altercation or robbery. Part of it is probably my age / size, that keeps away the riff raff looking for an easy score and the fact that I'm American keeps away serious kidnappers. Still, there's a pretty big gray area between those two groups.

One thing I would watch very closely is your drinks at a bar, I do know several people who've had burundanga experiences and that sounds really really shitty. Plus it can have lasting effects, too. Just nasty stuff. Overall I think if you exercise a little bit of caution and don't lollygag, you're pretty safe in any big city, Medellin included. The places out in the cut are the most dangerous, especially any border towns or trafficking routes. You could your life there pretty easily.

Really it's pretty remarkable how far security has come in Colombia in ten years, let alone 20. I know a lot of older people here or the girls tell me about when they were kids. Tons of kidnappings, shootouts, explosions and wild ass shit that seems like a distant memory to this generation of young Colombians.

When I was there last year, Nancy charged me 140k for 2 hrs with the best looking girl of about ten. This year she says 170k for 2hrs.

A little after midnight this past Thur, she only had 4 girls & only Sofia, a nice litlle spinner (my fave) was doable.

We agreed on 150k but at the end she charged me 20k for 2 drinks, so she got her 170k.

Frankly, Nancy looked even more tired / bored this yr. Than last, I don`t think she give a shit any more.

I don't know what this place used to be before but it was probably great looking in its heyday. I think this place, with all that room has a lot of potential with the right investor.

For now, I think I'll stay away.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1215544]Wow, I don't want to jinx my luck here or make light of any of your experiences but none of these things have ever come remotely close to happening to me.

I have spent close to a year and a half total in Colombia, with much of it being in Medellin and never had a hairy situation with a Colombian. I go places by myself all the time, too, and while I don't tempt fate I am certainly not afraid to go out at night, hang out in a neighborhood (no strata 1 stuff, but 2s, definitely) , etc.

Not once have I been in a confrontation or even felt like I was being sized up in a way that could have led to an altercation or robbery. Part of it is probably my age / size, that keeps away the riff raff looking for an easy score and the fact that I'm American keeps away serious kidnappers. Still, there's a pretty big gray area between those two groups.

One thing I would watch very closely is your drinks at a bar, I do know several people who've had burundanga experiences and that sounds really really shitty. Plus it can have lasting effects, too. Just nasty stuff. Overall I think if you exercise a little bit of caution and don't lollygag, you're pretty safe in any big city, Medellin included. The places out in the cut are the most dangerous, especially any border towns or trafficking routes. You could your life there pretty easily.

Really it's pretty remarkable how far security has come in Colombia in ten years, let alone 20. I know a lot of older people here or the girls tell me about when they were kids. Tons of kidnappings, shootouts, explosions and wild ass shit that seems like a distant memory to this generation of young Colombians.[/QUOTE]Wilt, I respect your outlook on the safety in Colombia but you couldn't be more wrong. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't make it any safer. Back in the '80's it was much more dangerous for Colombians due to the drug violence. The danger to gringos is robbery and that hasn't changed one bit, sorry. And your size and age doesn't mean squat to a thief, ask the member here Bango Cheito, he is a very big boy and had to fight for his life and damn near lost it. I too have spent a considerable time in Colombia and consider myself lucky to have had only a pickpocket incident and a knife drawn on me in a dispute and I am the lowest key dude you will ever meet. One can reduce their odds of being a victim by taking your advise, especially concerning drinks but at the end of the day Colombia is a third world country and at any time trouble can and eventually probably will find you.

Biggest target these days besides the obvious bling wearing fool?? Girls with Blackberrys!! Almost every single chica I know on FB and 2 dudes have been robbed usually by two punks on a moto. One driver for the quick get away why the other does the gun toting dirty work.

These are girls from every estrato. But more recently girls from estratos 5-6 because the punks know where the IPHONE 4's and blackberry's are in abundance. Every freaking week I see a new post by a girl on FB that she has been robbed. The girls are always devastated but It's almost surreal because it's like they expect it to come sooner of later. My other boy was robbed leaving his house in Laureles in a dark area, had to give up his wallet, watch and they took his shitty old nokia.

All I walk around with in MDE is a Kenneth Cole watch. 200k pesos, a nokia 2210 (cheapest model) , some raincoats and copy of my passport and that's it. Me to SICARIO: "YOU WAN'T IT? HERE TAKE IT CON GUSTO!"

You think the worldwide isn't hitting Colombia as well? A lot of my lady friends are sitting at home online on the weekends because they have not even one peso in their pockets and no dude has asked them out yet.

Don't leave the house with anything you can't live without. PERIOD.

At night you can add digital camera to that list but I usual roll with my posse' of locals.

I noticed that Porn Star was getting big. I see that most of Mayo chicas get fat after working there regularly. I have not seen single girl who got thin. It is not surprising since they get beers and food from guys there. It would be difficult not to eat or drink, and just stand in Mayo.

You are right about Cristales. In dark area between Cristales and Amistad, gang guys are hanging around. Usually one of them is killed every year.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1215542]'Business' seemingly remains excellent for Porn Star even though she apparently just picked up another 5 lbs after another every time I saw her.

More and more gorditas show up to parade up and down the Mayo sidewalk. I thought they must have had a SALE going on. JAJAJAJAJA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Midwest; 1214164]Do you have the address? I can't seem to find it.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I was also interested in a decent massage by lovely chicas. I found their web site and from the video would seem very enticing if those were the actual masseuses.

[url]http://omspa.co/index.html[/url]

They are located on the 4th floor of the Rio Sur mall (centro comerciale). The mall is in Poblado directly across from Oviedo Mall and McDonald's.

Stopped by yesterday around 5pm. I was quoted a rate of COP 70. 000 pesos for the massage. That's more than double the COP 30 mil that Mfins paid for his massage. (Posting# 8546 November 4th) Mfins did you get a 2 hand or 4 hand massage? I wonder if the price I was quoted was for a 4 hand because they promote that on their web site.

The receptionist girl said it would be a 20 minute wait so I didn't stick around. Debating if I should go back. It works out about $35usd which is still pretty cheap if it is a good massage compared to back home.

It was a pretty quiet shop and I didn't see any other sgn of the other services they offer on their web site.

Just back from Medellin. Spent a little more than a week there.

Great time as usual.

Overall thoughts:

Still the prettiest girls on the planet IMO, but not near as hot in the cama as the Brasileiras, again IMO.

Went about everywhere in Medellin for the PFP recon.

Strip clubs, high end and low, the central street (BTW, if you don't think it's dangerous out there, you're nuts) ,

The Mayo, the Mansion, daytime casas and of course some good old Non Pro fun too, which was more expensive

Than any of the Pros, cause I was buying dinners, gifts, family stuff, etc.

Funny thing is, the hottest chica I was with was a Mayo chica I met and befriended.

Lots of fuglies out there but got I got lucky and found her, cause she doesn't trounce about there.

Much.

Took some schmoozin because she was very leary and cold at first, without good spanish and personality,

She'd be a cold one for sure, and I saw her turn down or just ignore guys alltogether.

Happens a lot with some of the hot ones at the Mayo actually. Selective.

Anyway, I ended just calling her and we'd meet up.

Great loving sex with her, once she realized I wasn't a monster haha.

Now she's texting me on my US phone.

I'm going to keep her in the stable for my next visit.

Fun times, I'll be back soon.

Tomorrow back to Brasil, my Garotas (chicas) are getting restless haha.

Started the day with the Medellin chica list.

Went to Geishas's, which is well documented on ISG and youtube on how to get there. Once inside, was told there are 'dos chicas, nada mas' so I took Vanessa for $35, 000 COP and was satisfied. I asked her why there were only two girls working and she basically said because not a lot of chicos come there. I took that and got back on the metro. My opinion is that this place is super safe and super easy to get to, since it is basically at the bottom of the metro station stairs, which are highly protected by the police. Centro is hit or miss in my opinion, but why risk saving $15-$20 in a chica for a chance that something bad may happen to you. I'd rather pay the $20 and be safe.

Later this night, went to Afinitron on Calle 33. Seems to be better than in the past, with about 10-14 chicas working. I went to the upstairs rooms, $55, 000 for a media de Ron and 2 shows. As advertised. Looks like they now own the brothel that was next door as they now offer sexo next door. Instead of in the upstairs room which seemed to be common practice a few years ago. The hotel / short time rooms next door seemed safe to me, but there was not anyone else there besides the lady that opened the door, in case something went down. I took Leidy for $80, 000 COP, she was asking $100, 000, I got her down. But she was worth it, in my eyes.

Seems like the owner Marcoi has had a medical problem and is in the hospital as of now. But all in all, seemed a safe place for gringos, but as always, be careful.

Leidy told me she usually has four clients per night, one of those being a gringo. Take that for what its worth.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1215647]I noticed that Porn Star was getting big. I see that most of Mayo chicas get fat after working there regularly. I have not seen single girl who got thin. It is not surprising since they get beers and food from guys there. It would be difficult not to eat or drink, and just stand in Mayo.

You are right about Cristales. In dark area between Cristales and Amistad, gang guys are hanging around. Usually one of them is killed every year.[/QUOTE]Six years ago you might see one fat girl a day. Now damn near 70% of them are fat! Yes, I like the thin side of medium build.

The last time I visited M-Street I was singing the song in my mind "Who let the pigs (dogs) out?"

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[QUOTE=Always Randy; 1215663]I was also interested in a decent massage by lovely chicas. I found their web site and from the video would seem very enticing if those were the actual masseuses.

[url]http://omspa.co/index.html[/url]

They are located on the 4th floor of the Rio Sur mall (centro comerciale). The mall is in Poblado directly across from Oviedo Mall and McDonald's.

Stopped by yesterday around 5pm. I was quoted a rate of COP 70. 000 pesos for the massage. That's more than double the COP 30 mil that Mfins paid for his massage. (Posting# 8546 November 4th) Mfins did you get a 2 hand or 4 hand massage? I wonder if the price I was quoted was for a 4 hand because they promote that on their web site.

The receptionist girl said it would be a 20 minute wait so I didn't stick around. Debating if I should go back. It works out about $35usd which is still pretty cheap if it is a good massage compared to back home.

It was a pretty quiet shop and I didn't see any other sgn of the other services they offer on their web site.[/QUOTE]Last May I visited their old location in the hills above Poblado, which I found to be pretty cool actually. Unfortunately, the massage was pure crap. I paid 70k pesos for the tantric massage which they advertise on their web site as a sensual massage focusing on your erogenous zones. I think it was pretty clear what I was expecting; I great massage with a happy ending. The masseuse, average looking at best, was totally worthless and I felt like I was her first client. And no amount of coaxing after the flip would convince her to take care of me. After a shower I asked the secretary (who was smoking hot, BTW) , what was the deal with the misleading advertising? She stated your knees and elbows could be considered erogenous zones. Perhaps they've changed masseuses since that time and the quality of the massage has improved. But my experience was not good.

I'm still looking for a place where I can get a high-quality massage in a spa environment (with steam room, etc) and a happy ending. Something along the lines of Colmegna Spa in Buenos Aires. Does such a place exist here?

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1215711]Just back from Medellin. Funny thing is, the hottest chica I was with was a Mayo chica I met and befriended.[/QUOTE]Here's a quick looksy at my Mayo friend.

(sorry, I don't post faces, too many Schmucks out there showing the fotos.)

[QUOTE=Relapse1952; 1215834]Six years ago you might see one fat girl a day. Now damn near 70% of them are fat! Yes, I like the thin side of medium build.

The last time I visited M-Street I was singing the song in my mind "Who let the pigs (dogs) out?"

Relapse[/QUOTE]Correcto senor, but on the other hand, I've seen pretty gordito gringos too, maybe 90% haha

Luckily, they've got some cash :)

I'm with ya amigo.

Though, you're most likely not going to run into trouble, especially following obvious precautions, you just never know when it's going to hit ya.

Each attempted mugging on me is when I was feeling smug and secure, without a worry in the world. Sure wakes ya up fast.

It's out there guys, I wouldn't listen to the "this place is safe" blah blah. The riff-raff is out there, you just might not see it.

No scare tactics here, just keep your eyes open and wits about ya.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1215635]Biggest target these days besides the obvious bling wearing fool? Girls with Blackberrys! Almost every single chica I know on FB and 2 dudes have been robbed usually by two punks on a moto. One driver for the quick get away why the other does the gun toting dirty work.

These are girls from every estrato. But more recently girls from estratos 5-6 because the punks know where the IPHONE 4's and blackberry's are in abundance. Every freaking week I see a new post by a girl on FB that she has been robbed. The girls are always devastated but It's almost surreal because it's like they expect it to come sooner of later. My other boy was robbed leaving his house in Laureles in a dark area, had to give up his wallet, watch and they took his shitty old nokia.[/QUOTE]You said it amigo.

That's why when I help out an amiga and buy her a cell phone, it's a simple, but nice one.

100-150K pesos max.

Buy an expensive one is throwing money away, it's almost sure to be stolen or lost (usually in a taxi haha).

Whatever they quote, I always go 5k lower & they always accept.

They see their 2nd. Chance of getting more from you while getting the room by asking for a bag of chips or a beer.

I whisper in their ear if things go well, they`ll get a tip (usually that 5k)

Outcome:

1. Better session.

2. Both of us happy campers.

3. Thinner, healhtier Mayo girls.

Just doing my part.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1215647]I see that most of Mayo chicas get fat after working there regularly. I have not seen single girl who got thin. It is not surprising since they get beers and food from guys there. It would be difficult not to eat or drink, and just stand in Mayo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1215879]Here's a quick looksy at my Mayo friend.

(sorry, I don't post faces, too many Schmucks out there showing the fotos.) [/QUOTE]That dirty little thing sure looks delicious! Good one! Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=Chezz; 1215859]Last May I visited their old location in the hills above Poblado, which I found to be pretty cool actually. Unfortunately, the massage was pure crap. I paid 70k pesos for the tantric massage which they advertise on their web site as a sensual massage focusing on your erogenous zones. I think it was pretty clear what I was expecting; I great massage with a happy ending. The masseuse, average looking at best, was totally worthless and I felt like I was her first client. And no amount of coaxing after the flip would convince her to take care of me. After a shower I asked the secretary (who was smoking hot, BTW) , what was the deal with the misleading advertising? She stated your knees and elbows could be considered erogenous zones. Perhaps they've changed masseuses since that time and the quality of the massage has improved. But my experience was not good.

I'm still looking for a place where I can get a high-quality massage in a spa environment (with steam room, etc) and a happy ending. Something along the lines of Colmegna Spa in Buenos Aires. Does such a place exist here?[/QUOTE]Thats interesting. We went to a place called Exclusively For Men in Poblado. We did not want a happy ending place just a normal sensual massage. It was a legit place but because of the name we figured maybe there is a happy ending. Once again not looking for one but wouldn't complain if it happened. Anyway over an hour for 70, 000. COmpletely nude no towel no boxers. She said do you want 30 minutes face down and 30 min face up. I said perfect. Well she did about 55 minutes face down and about 10 minutes face up. After the 55 minutes face up I was pretty turned on and was anxious to see how the face up time would go but she rushed it and abruptly said were done and left. I am not complaining because I went for a normal good massage and it was one but, it seems like there may be more than a few of these Male massage type places that prey on teasing.

[QUOTE=Chezz; 1215859]Last May I visited their old location in the hills above Poblado, which I found to be pretty cool actually. Unfortunately, the massage was pure crap. I paid 70k pesos for the tantric massage which they advertise on their web site as a sensual massage focusing on your erogenous zones. I think it was pretty clear what I was expecting; I great massage with a happy ending. The masseuse, average looking at best, was totally worthless and I felt like I was her first client. And no amount of coaxing after the flip would convince her to take care of me. After a shower I asked the secretary (who was smoking hot, BTW) , what was the deal with the misleading advertising? She stated your knees and elbows could be considered erogenous zones. Perhaps they've changed masseuses since that time and the quality of the massage has improved. But my experience was not good.

I'm still looking for a place where I can get a high-quality massage in a spa environment (with steam room, etc) and a happy ending. Something along the lines of Colmegna Spa in Buenos Aires. Does such a place exist here?[/QUOTE]Yep, you are right. The Receptionist is smoking hot. Wish she was the masseuse. My buddy and I have appointments booked for tomorrow. Will report back how it went. Sure it may be strictly a legit massage, but why tease with a name like that?"Exclusively for Men"? So far the best massage I've had was in Lima at a R & V#3 that had the steam room, BJ and happy ending! It would be nice if Medellin had something similiar!

I couldn't find it but thanks to Always Randy's research I went there today.

I think the original poster might've had the price wrong, I paid 70k for 1 hour of a totally legit massage: the girl was noticeably pregnant & even if I was into that, she brushed by the boys just once, which was fine by me.

The massage quoted as ¨classic om¨ was fine but they don't have a shower, she sprays you with alcohol & rubs it (the oil) off with a towel. Had to go home & take a shower.

May go back unless I find a plce with a shoer &, ideally, a sauna.

[QUOTE=Always Randy; 1215663]I was also interested in a decent massage by lovely chicas. I found their web site and from the video would seem very enticing if those were the actual masseuses.

[url]http://omspa.co/index.html[/url]

They are located on the 4th floor of the Rio Sur mall (centro comerciale). The mall is in Poblado directly across from Oviedo Mall and McDonald's.

Stopped by yesterday around 5pm. I was quoted a rate of COP 70. 000 pesos for the massage. That's more than double the COP 30 mil that Mfins paid for his massage. (Posting# 8546 November 4th) Mfins did you get a 2 hand or 4 hand massage? I wonder if the price I was quoted was for a 4 hand because they promote that on their web site.

The receptionist girl said it would be a 20 minute wait so I didn't stick around. Debating if I should go back. It works out about $35usd which is still pretty cheap if it is a good massage compared to back home.

It was a pretty quiet shop and I didn't see any other sgn of the other services they offer on their web site.[/QUOTE]

I was there in Sept and went all over. Hit the strip clubs in central, the SW in cental, the casas, and mayo. One of the hottest girl I hooked up with was the mayo chica. Her name was yully. Super hot, her personality was somewhere in the middle. By far the street walkers in El central (that area) was the dangerous. Even th e prepas said not to hang around after 9 at night.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1215711]Just back from Medellin. Spent a little more than a week there.

Great time as usual.

Overall thoughts:

Still the prettiest girls on the planet IMO, but not near as hot in the cama as the Brasileiras, again IMO.

Went about everywhere in Medellin for the PFP recon.

Strip clubs, high end and low, the central street (BTW, if you don't think it's dangerous out there, you're nuts) ,

The Mayo, the Mansion, daytime casas and of course some good old Non Pro fun too, which was more expensive

Than any of the Pros, cause I was buying dinners, gifts, family stuff, etc.

Funny thing is, the hottest chica I was with was a Mayo chica I met and befriended.

Lots of fuglies out there but got I got lucky and found her, cause she doesn't trounce about there.

Much.

Took some schmoozin because she was very leary and cold at first, without good spanish and personality,

She'd be a cold one for sure, and I saw her turn down or just ignore guys alltogether.

Happens a lot with some of the hot ones at the Mayo actually. Selective.

Anyway, I ended just calling her and we'd meet up.

Great loving sex with her, once she realized I wasn't a monster haha.

Now she's texting me on my US phone.

I'm going to keep her in the stable for my next visit.

Fun times, I'll be back soon.

Tomorrow back to Brasil, my Garotas (chicas) are getting restless haha.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mfins;1215017]There is a Hostel across from the Crepes and Waffles in zona rosa that has direct tv and shows all the games. They only have 4 tvs one being a big screen but if you ask them they will put any game on you want. They have the NFL package. I don't remember the name but its a really nice Hostel in a very nice area[/QUOTE]The name of the Hostel is called Tiger Paw Hostel. The address is Car 36 No. 10-49, Medellin, Colombia.

The rooms can sometimes be a bit noisy.

[QUOTE=Play Hard68;1216051]I was there in Sept and went all over. Hit the strip clubs in central, the SW in cental, the casas, and mayo. One of the hottest girl I hooked up with was the mayo chica. Her name was yully. Super hot, her personality was somewhere in the middle. By far the street walkers in El central (that area) was the dangerous. Even th e prepas said not to hang around after 9 at night.[/QUOTE]How you doing Play Hard 68. We had a good time going to all the hot spots in el centro in Sept. The strip clubs, casas and the streetwalker areas. I think they're safe in the daytime but I wouldn't go at night either. That Demi Moore chica was pretty hot. I like the el centro area of Medellin because there's such a good concentration of action hot spots, all close by within walking distance to my hotel.

Going to Nicaragua in January. If I don't like it, I'll be back to Colombia.

Thursday. 11/10/11, in Mayo was the second consecutive excellent night. There were more doable chicas, many of whom were rubias. 5 natural and 3 fake, kind of a rare occurrence. Of course we all know the quality at Mayo dramatically improve as the weekend approaches. I counted at least 30 girls, half of whom looked like new chicas on the block. But I noticed guy were picking them up at a rather snail pace. Very unusual! I could see the desperation in the faces of these girls due to the slowness of the action as the night drew to a close. All bars, discotecas, and restaurants on the strip were ordered to shut their doors at 1am in the morning (the night before was at midnight). Heavy police presence could be seen on the street to enforce the law. 2 vans. 5 motorcycles, and at least 20 cops. At this moment I felt La Mayorista was the safest place to be in all of Colombia. There were a few gringos but they were not hanging around all night long like I was. Again, I just wanted to check out the scene, had a few $2K beers, chatted with a few chicas, mingled with some Colombianos, and if I saw someone I liked, I would grab her. All Carolinas, including mine, were there, and also present were Porn Star and 'La Chinita'. I was looking for a particular chica but she could not be found. I finally ended it up picking with an old favorite, Andrea, at a litte past 2:30am. She only asked me for $20K / 30min but after the deed, I gave her $25K. Like many times before, she enthusiastically offered good Mayo sex and an exceptionally nice attitude. Great girl.

To say that there is still danger or even considerable danger is accurate. To say that the risk of violence to anyone, foreigners included, has not changed from 30 or even 15 years ago is totally inaccurate. At that time, a foreigner traveling to Colombia would be similar to a foreigner traveling to Haiti today. It had the highest murder rate in the world at one point. The drug violence today insulates tourists to some degree, then it did not. It's not as though guerilla-paramilitary warfare, terrorism and other public violence only touched Colombians in that era because of some selective action. Any tourist who was there faced those risks as well as an even higher risk of robbery than they carry today.

Yes, Colombia has gotten SAFER and yes for EVERYONE. That does not, however, mean that it is outright SAFE for anyone, local or tourist.

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1216279]Thanks. I'm sure she is a pro but she acts like she isn't and I never go to any of the pro places so I need a little help. I don't care if she is just curious.[/QUOTE]I, for one, have never seen her in La Mayorista. We will let you know if she comes up somewhere. Relax.

A little after 8pm we had a hard time getting to their new location from El Centro.

After 4-5 taxi drivers turning me & a fellow monger down when we told them where we wanted to go, the last one said that traffic is so bad because something about "el partido" (the game) that it would take forever to get there & we should jump on the train to Poblado station & take a taxi from there.

Once at the Poblado station, no less than eight drivers claimed they didn`t know how to get there.

We were ready to give up when this last guy grudgingly took us after getting directions from the babe at Loutron`s. He said it`s far & he`ll have to come back without a fare.

It was way way up there!

The fare was 12k plus 5k tip (cause we felt like it, there).

Once there, the guard told us it`s 10k to walk in.

We walked in & was greeted by an attractive, professional looking 30ish female (as usual)

Only three other guys were there & one of them picked my friend`s choice, so they reintroduced themselves & he picked another one. Forgot her name.

I picked Lina. Very cute spinner with an amazing ass.

The breakdown:

1. One hour of "masage": $185k (I think)

2. One hour of "masage why relaciones" (massage & sex) : 210k.

3. One & a half hour for number two plus strip tease. 240k.

We both picked number 2.

After a quick, playful shower, Lina takes a bottle of oil & asks me if I`m ready for a massage.

I said "come here", grab the oil off her hand & off we go!

Highly recommend her, she knows what`s she`s doing.

We each paid 215k (210k plus 5k for a water) so th 10k to walk in is rolleed into the price.

When I started coming to MDE, Loutron`s had me picking 3-4 of about 12 girls.

Its been gettiing proggressively worse, though: this time, I only picked one out of ten. `

As with the rest of MDE, the girls are generally getting thicker. Shame.

I must say, Lina was well worth it.

Hey everyone- Planning to visit Medellin in December and have a question about Lindas Chicas- this could be for Midwest who was just there or anyone on the board. I just wanted to know for sure since on past posts it has said that there are usually only about 8-10 chicas at Lindas Chicas at a time but Nancy has a book you can look at and she can call any of 50 or so other girls that are available. Is this true about her access to many other girls from a book with their photos or can you only choose from the girls that are actually there at that time? Would like to know based on my choices- always like a greater selection of chicas like everyone else.

Thanks

[QUOTE=BayBoy; 1216469]How you doing Play Hard 68. We had a good time going to all the hot spots in el centro in Sept. The strip clubs, casas and the streetwalker areas. I think they're safe in the daytime but I wouldn't go at night either. That Demi Moore chica was pretty hot. I like the el centro area of Medellin because there's such a good concentration of action hot spots, all close by within walking distance to my hotel.

Going to Nicaragua in January. If I don't like it, I'll be back to Colombia.[/QUOTE]I had a blast. I apprec you showing me the central spots. I want to remember that strip club that was down stairs if you remember the name and address let me know. That chica from the strip club (las americas) came by my apartment later that week. She was ready to please. I will be going back to Medellin in May. Let me know if you might be around. Later, keep safe.

[QUOTE=Play Hard68;1217005]I had a blast. I apprec you showing me the central spots. I want to remember that strip club that was down stairs if you remember the name and address let me know. That chica from the strip club (las americas) came by my apartment later that week. She was ready to please. I will be going back to Medellin in May. Let me know if you might be around. Later, keep safe.[/QUOTE]Conejitas Strip Club. Carrera 52 # 53-03

[QUOTE=Cruiser3281; 1216880]Hey everyone- Planning to visit Medellin in December and have a question about Lindas Chicas- this could be for Midwest who was just there or anyone on the board. I just wanted to know for sure since on past posts it has said that there are usually only about 8-10 chicas at Lindas Chicas at a time but Nancy has a book you can look at and she can call any of 50 or so other girls that are available. Is this true about her access to many other girls from a book with their photos or can you only choose from the girls that are actually there at that time? Would like to know based on my choices- always like a greater selection of chicas like everyone else.

Thanks[/QUOTE]This used to be a favorite of mine but from the last few posts (Use the Search Option "Lindas Chicas") Nancy has fallen off a bit. From my own experience Nancy would call more girls if you didn't like the ones she had. Just tell her want you want or like and she'd fill the order. My buddy would call ahead and make sure she had a good talent pool for us. Please report back. Like I said this used to be one of my most favorite spots in Mede.

Last time I was there Nancy said she had "muchisimas" girls, but not there. It was thur. Night so maybe Fri / Sat night is better.

She mentioned no book to me. In fact, I suggested that she take a pic of the alleged tons of girls with face blurred & stick them in a book.

I was about to suggest that she can email me the pics & I can share them with my American friends (She mentioned on previous occasion that she sometimes turns away locals & prefers "extranjeros") but her underwhelming response leads me to think:

1) she`s overstating how many girls she has access to.

2) she doesn`t really care anymore.

Probably a little of both.

In any case, according to other posts, late is better.

If you go there late, take a cab (shitty area) & tell the cabbie there`s 5k (or 10k, whatever) for him if he waits to see if you stay or not. If you don`t, you don`t have to wait for a cab or worse, what if she tells you she doesn`t call taxis for non-customers. If you stay, don`t forget to pay that cabbie, maybe get his number & see if he`s in the area when you`re done.

The price seems to be negotiable, you might want to do that on the phone, before you get there. I always get better results that way. And, hey, ask her about that book. Won`t hurt, right?

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Cruiser3281; 1216880]Hey everyone- Planning to visit Medellin in December and have a question about Lindas Chicas- this could be for Midwest who was just there or anyone on the board. I just wanted to know for sure since on past posts it has said that there are usually only about 8-10 chicas at Lindas Chicas at a time but Nancy has a book you can look at and she can call any of 50 or so other girls that are available. Is this true about her access to many other girls from a book with their photos or can you only choose from the girls that are actually there at that time? Would like to know based on my choices- always like a greater selection of chicas like everyone else.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Like a dumbass, I got to Time Out at 12pm to watch an NFL game that starts at 4pm. So, what to do?

Having just had an ok breakfast at one of the few places open that early in Parque Lleras,"Bagels & Brunch", calle 9a 38-26, off to New LIfe it is.

Karen, a sweet 20 year old with nice caramel candy skin, a great face & gorgeous ass was waiting for me.

Not a wrinkle on her bod. I saw her perkies & I just had to ask if she had any kids & unsurprisingly she said no.

I normally do not want to know (bit of a turn-off) but a lot of providers seem to want to share that. Maybe angling for a better tip.

Anyway, New LIfe comes thru again.

[QUOTE=Midwest; 1217212]Last time I was there Nancy said she had "muchisimas" girls, but not there. It was thur. Night so maybe Fri / Sat night is better.

She mentioned no book to me. In fact, I suggested that she take a pic of the alleged tons of girls with face blurred & stick them in a book.

I was about to suggest that she can email me the pics & I can share them with my American friends (She mentioned on previous occasion that she sometimes turns away locals & prefers "extranjeros") but her underwhelming response leads me to think:

1) she`s overstating how many girls she has access to.

2) she doesn`t really care anymore.

Probably a little of both.

In any case, according to other posts, late is better.

If you go there late, take a cab (shitty area) & tell the cabbie there`s 5k (or 10k, whatever) for him if he waits to see if you stay or not. If you don`t, you don`t have to wait for a cab or worse, what if she tells you she doesn`t call taxis for non-customers. If you stay, don`t forget to pay that cabbie, maybe get his number & see if he`s in the area when you`re done.

The price seems to be negotiable, you might want to do that on the phone, before you get there. I always get better results that way. And, hey, ask her about that book. Won`t hurt, right?

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, Nancy is done, she is history, she can't go beyond what she has on site, maybe she'll try to call you one or two from outside her place but that's about it. She is overpriced. To Pay $170 an hour is ridiculous. I would rather go Loutron for that price.

I am really surprised Medellin does not have a place like Blue Marlin at the Del rey in Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=Midwest; 1216003]I couldn't find it but thanks to Always Randy's research I went there today.

I think the original poster might've had the price wrong, I paid 70k for 1 hour of a totally legit massage: the girl was noticeably pregnant & even if I was into that, she brushed by the boys just once, which was fine by me.

The massage quoted as ¨classic om¨ was fine but they don't have a shower, she sprays you with alcohol & rubs it (the oil) off with a towel. Had to go home & take a shower.

May go back unless I find a plce with a shoer &, ideally, a sauna.[/QUOTE]Thats the place. If I said 30k then I mis-spoke or mis-typed. It is 70, 000. My friend got a massage by the pregnant girl and he said she required him to keep his boxers on, or a towel. She was not attractive and he got the short end of the stick. The girl I went with was HOT and gave a great massage. Required me to be completely nude. Other than the 50 minutes down and 10 minutes up she was great. I forgot her name but there are only 2 girls working there at any given time, so make sure you pick the hot one.

[QUOTE=Fla Fun; 1216131]The name of the Hostel is called Tiger Paw Hostel. The address is Car 36 No. 10-49, Medellin, Colombia.

The rooms can sometimes be a bit noisy.[/QUOTE]Yes thats the place. We didn't stay there only went on Sunday to watch the games. I have never stayed in a Hostel before but, the place looks nice and the location was great

Theres an awesome bar right across the street from oviedo mall with lots of flat screens. 12 k pesos beers but well worth it because you are watching in class. It is just before Sante fe mall. I try to stay away from the NFL while away but can't seem to help myself. Sunday being slow anyways this bar made me feel like a king.

FYI: It`s 170k for two hours. Still, she really pushes the 2 hour thing & I`m usually good after an hour anyway.

[QUOTE=Viajero;1217244]To Pay $170 an hour is ridiculous. I would rather go Loutron for that price.[/QUOTE]

Hi, I still owe you a bottle from last May re the "Coffee Shop" tip about "our spinner". I just arrived back in mde from the frozen north. Salud

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1217603]Theres an awesome bar right across the street from oviedo mall with lots of flat screens. 12 k pesos beers but well worth it because you are watching in class. It is just before Sante fe mall. I try to stay away from the NFL while away but can't seem to help myself. Sunday being slow anyways this bar made me feel like a king.[/QUOTE]I've been to this place also to watch football. I dig it too!

Nice looking little waitresses to flirt with, then an easy walk to Santa Fe if ya like.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1217842]I've been to this place also to watch football. I dig it too!

Nice looking little waitresses to flirt with, then an easy walk to Santa Fe if ya like.[/QUOTE]When all else fails, [url]www.firstrowsports.com[/url]

The night before last, after the usual "30k. 25k, ok" I enjoyed Cristal, a light skinned spinner with a bit of a beak but otherwise nice face & with that classic Colombian ass which she happens to know how to move in bed.

She agreed to come over yesterday as well. Never discussed $. Actually, she almost left without getting paid.

I just gave her 50k for a little over an hour & she was more than happy. Very sweet girl.

While taking a break, she mentioned she worked at Loutron`s & New Life, as well as a strip bar in Rio Negro. I believe her but I asked her why Mayo. She says she has a regular job & she can come & go as she pleases.

She mentioned that her sister was out there when I first met her & after she showed me her pic on her phone, I realized I was eyeing her as well.

Cristal is leaving for Cartagena tonight (I bet on the bus recommended by to another monger here) so I asked her about her sister coming over. She`s supposed to call me later today. Should be fun.

Hey, it is your money. Glad that you had a good time with a girl you like.

[QUOTE=Midwest;1217641]FYI: It`s 170k for two hours. Still, she really pushes the 2 hour thing & I`m usually good after an hour anyway.[/QUOTE]

Details may be a little spotty as a got back a few days ago, but I wanted to add a report on my trip to MDE from 11/9. 11/13.

Day One.

I flew in on Spirit from O'Hare. FLL. MDE. Immediately upon boarding the flight to MDE, I find that the plane is packed with the sexy paisas, with silicone tits, ass and nose jobs easily appreciated, I LOVE IT!

As we landed in MDE, I noticed a lot of putas hanging around for their paychecks to arrive. I kept making eye contact with a nice silicona that I kept making eye contact with, I finally realized she was a girl I kicked out of my room in the mansion the last time I was here because she refused to kiss and only offered a CBJ. She looks great with those new tits, I definitely wouldn't kick her out again.

Went to the market, settled into Casa Loma (beautiful place) and headed out to Loutron around 6:00PM. The new house is further away, but only about a $10K COP ride out there. The lineup was looking amazing, tons of flacas with very well done implants. I had a hard time picking and went through the lineup 3 times as there were so many hotties. I ended up picking Alejandra, who has to be the hottest girl I have ever f*cked, even though she has a see-section scar. We played around a bit in the room before getting down to business. She doesn't kiss and it is a CBJ, but that didn't bother me at all this trip. My most memorable sessions this trip were actually with girls that were not GFE but had a fun, slightly bitchy, personality and could play "the game" a little. I guess that made it feel more like a natural interaction than the girls that would just be submissive, I like them with a little attitude. Anyways, Alejandra was great in the sack, and actually slipped in for a little LFK during the heat of the moment. Afterward I got her number but didn't end up meeting up with her, biggest mistake of my 3 trips to MDE. Loutron was $225K COP for a session with a beer, and you have to pay a cover charge if you do not session.

That night I headed over to B-lounge for their Wednesday night party. The music sucked for the most part but the crowd had a couple cutties and the bartender as amazingly hot, but had no idea what a redbull vodka was. I was able to chat up a couple of girls outside while getting a smoke and continued inside, but I didn't want to risk my time on an unsure thing. I find it easier to approach attractive women in MDE as I can attribute my lack of game to the language barrier, tends to help my ego, and the girls seem to have fun with a little bit of a language barrier. I headed over to FASE II and ended up snagging Sylvanna for a few drinks, she's a very shy girl but has a great body, and is usually dancing with a silver outfit on. I've had good luck at FASE with getting GFE session and had a great time with Sylvanna. I believe a session on-site is around $190K COP, of which they get $120k. Day one was by far my best day of the trip.

Day Two.

The next day I called up an ex-Loutron girl I had in my phone. Unfortunately, the past year has not been kind as she's plumped up a bit. She stopped by and did anything and everything I asked for, and was $150K for 3 hours. While she was cute and was willing to do anything, I just didn't have as great of a time with her.

I went out to Thai Co. In Parque Lleras for dinner, which seems to be quite the hotspot right now. A ton of people there for just drinks and fairly good eye candy. I was supposed to meet a prepago I connected with over facebook at midnight so I swung by Fase again in the mean time and was tempted to take Biana, a 30 year old with a smoking hot face but no silicone and a little too much of an ass. I got her number for takeout but she wouldn't budge from $200K / hr and I didn't feel she would be worth it. My last day Sylvanna said she told the other girls about us fvcking for for 30. 40 minutes the other night and that is probably why others were charging a lot for takeout, lazy women. Tatiana the prepago flaked on me and I didn't end up doing anything that night. Day two was an absolute bust overall.

Day Three.

I woke up and made plans to see Tatiana during the day, while she flaked on me, she is way too hot not to sample and I arranged to see her around 3PM. I grabbed lunch at Ay Caramba! In parque lleras, smoking hot waitress and eye candy galore during the daytime, plus the food isn't bad. I think the fajitas with a couple of drinks came out to $20K COP. Back at the apartment I met up with Tatiana and made good use of the hot tub. I'll eventually attach some photos, this girl has a perfect body (very slim with great tits) and would be a ton of fun to meet up with for a night out. We agreed to $200K for the night, and instead of discussing money I paid her the same for the 3 hours we were hanging out. Unfortunately she is a bartender at a club and is only able to get out Sunday. Wednesday nights, so I wasn't able to fully enjoy. Unfortunately she asked me not to give out her contact info and only meets friends of friends.

That night I also arranged to meet with another Tatiana I met on facebook. The girl ran 3 hours late and after refusing to talk $ before meeting, asked for $500K for the night. I kicked her out and headed to the rooftop bar at the Charlee hotel in parque lleras, ENVY. The place has got good music, a beautiful crowd a rooftop pool and an amazing view, the Le Bain of Medellin. I would definitely recommend going there with a group of well dressed 20. 30 somethings that go hard. DO NOT go there if you have problems getting into a club in NY, Miami, Vegas or LA, you will stick out like a sore thumb. Drinks are 20. 25K a piece with expensive bottles and they also throw a Saturday pool party o I stopped by Fase for a bit and chatted with Sylvanna, but really wasn't liking anything else there.

Day Four. Final day.

I headed out to a cuban restaurant in parque lleras for breakfast, and it was just packed with hotties. The place is a bit a of a hole in the wall but had good food and the scenery just couldn't be beat. I arranged to meet Sylvanna from Fase back at my apartment and she arrived about an hour late, but let me know before hand. I was a little disappointed that she wasn't as dolled up with makeup as she normally is at Fase, but she still looked good. The session was hot and heavy, and she was willing to do anything and everything.

Later that day I headed back to Loutron to see if I could find Alejandra again. Unfortunately I showed up too late and they were about to close at 7 (usually close at 10 on weekdays) and she was taken already. I ended up taking Valentina, another girl with a great fake body, but just wasn't as good as Alejandra.

I had always wanted to try Sara from Colombiascortvip and gave them a call that night. Sara is a very hot spinner that has got some spice to her. She has a great, fun personality and we had a fun time dancing and drinking before getting down. She was not GFE, but it was a great session nonetheless and I would definitely recommend her if you like small spinners. I will definitely see her again if I return to Medellin soon.

Overall, I had a fun time in Medellin, the place has the most beautiful women in the world. I've realize though, that I just need 1 session a day and much prefer the LDV / freelance bar type setup vs casas and strip clubs. If you all have any recommended places to visit to enjoy these, I am all ears (Bogota? Cuba? Somewhere else?).

Many thanks to all the contributing members here for helping me know where to go.

Sara from Colombiascortvip

Paracite,

Great report with lots of detail. Thanks for sharing. I have questions:

1) How do you know that your facebook friends are prepagos? I know most girls in Colombia have a price, but its hard to tell if they are pro, semi-pro or just plain sexy from their facebook pages. LOL.

2) Remind me never to go to Loutron for that kind of money.

3) What planet is Tatiana from that she thinks she can get 500K?

Ciao!

[QUOTE=Paracite; 1219082]Details may be a little spotty as a got back a few days ago, but I wanted to add a report on my trip to MDE from 11/9. 11/13.

Day One.

I flew in on Spirit from O'Hare. FLL. MDE. Immediately upon boarding the flight to MDE, I find that the plane is packed with the sexy paisas, with silicone tits, ass and nose jobs easily appreciated, I LOVE IT!

As we landed in MDE, I noticed a lot of putas hanging around for their paychecks to arrive. I kept making eye contact with a nice silicona that I kept making eye contact with, I finally realized she was a girl I kicked out of my room in the mansion the last time I was here because she refused to kiss and only offered a CBJ. She looks great with those new tits, I definitely wouldn't kick her out again.

Went to the market, settled into Casa Loma (beautiful place) and headed out to Loutron around 6:00PM. The new house is further away, but only about a $10K COP ride out there. The lineup was looking amazing, tons of flacas with very well done implants. I had a hard time picking and went through the lineup 3 times as there were so many hotties. I ended up picking Alejandra, who has to be the hottest girl I have ever f*cked, even though she has a see-section scar. We played around a bit in the room before getting down to business. She doesn't kiss and it is a CBJ, but that didn't bother me at all this trip. My most memorable sessions this trip were actually with girls that were not GFE but had a fun, slightly bitchy, personality and could play "the game" a little. I guess that made it feel more like a natural interaction than the girls that would just be submissive, I like them with a little attitude. Anyways, Alejandra was great in the sack, and actually slipped in for a little LFK during the heat of the moment. Afterward I got her number but didn't end up meeting up with her, biggest mistake of my 3 trips to MDE. Loutron was $225K COP for a session with a beer, and you have to pay a cover charge if you do not session.

That night I headed over to B-lounge for their Wednesday night party. The music sucked for the most part but the crowd had a couple cutties and the bartender as amazingly hot, but had no idea what a redbull vodka was. I was able to chat up a couple of girls outside while getting a smoke and continued inside, but I didn't want to risk my time on an unsure thing. I find it easier to approach attractive women in MDE as I can attribute my lack of game to the language barrier, tends to help my ego, and the girls seem to have fun with a little bit of a language barrier. I headed over to FASE II and ended up snagging Sylvanna for a few drinks, she's a very shy girl but has a great body, and is usually dancing with a silver outfit on. I've had good luck at FASE with getting GFE session and had a great time with Sylvanna. I believe a session on-site is around $190K COP, of which they get $120k. Day one was by far my best day of the trip.

Day Two.

The next day I called up an ex-Loutron girl I had in my phone. Unfortunately, the past year has not been kind as she's plumped up a bit. She stopped by and did anything and everything I asked for, and was $150K for 3 hours. While she was cute and was willing to do anything, I just didn't have as great of a time with her.

I went out to Thai Co. In Parque Lleras for dinner, which seems to be quite the hotspot right now. A ton of people there for just drinks and fairly good eye candy. I was supposed to meet a prepago I connected with over facebook at midnight so I swung by Fase again in the mean time and was tempted to take Biana, a 30 year old with a smoking hot face but no silicone and a little too much of an ass. I got her number for takeout but she wouldn't budge from $200K / hr and I didn't feel she would be worth it. My last day Sylvanna said she told the other girls about us fvcking for for 30. 40 minutes the other night and that is probably why others were charging a lot for takeout, lazy women. Tatiana the prepago flaked on me and I didn't end up doing anything that night. Day two was an absolute bust overall.

Day Three.

I woke up and made plans to see Tatiana during the day, while she flaked on me, she is way too hot not to sample and I arranged to see her around 3PM. I grabbed lunch at Ay Caramba! In parque lleras, smoking hot waitress and eye candy galore during the daytime, plus the food isn't bad. I think the fajitas with a couple of drinks came out to $20K COP. Back at the apartment I met up with Tatiana and made good use of the hot tub. I'll eventually attach some photos, this girl has a perfect body (very slim with great tits) and would be a ton of fun to meet up with for a night out. We agreed to $200K for the night, and instead of discussing money I paid her the same for the 3 hours we were hanging out. Unfortunately she is a bartender at a club and is only able to get out Sunday. Wednesday nights, so I wasn't able to fully enjoy. Unfortunately she asked me not to give out her contact info and only meets friends of friends.

That night I also arranged to meet with another Tatiana I met on facebook. The girl ran 3 hours late and after refusing to talk $ before meeting, asked for $500K for the night. I kicked her out and headed to the rooftop bar at the Charlee hotel in parque lleras, ENVY. The place has got good music, a beautiful crowd a rooftop pool and an amazing view, the Le Bain of Medellin. I would definitely recommend going there with a group of well dressed 20. 30 somethings that go hard. DO NOT go there if you have problems getting into a club in NY, Miami, Vegas or LA, you will stick out like a sore thumb. Drinks are 20. 25K a piece with expensive bottles and they also throw a Saturday pool party o I stopped by Fase for a bit and chatted with Sylvanna, but really wasn't liking anything else there.

Day Four. Final day.

I headed out to a cuban restaurant in parque lleras for breakfast, and it was just packed with hotties. The place is a bit a of a hole in the wall but had good food and the scenery just couldn't be beat. I arranged to meet Sylvanna from Fase back at my apartment and she arrived about an hour late, but let me know before hand. I was a little disappointed that she wasn't as dolled up with makeup as she normally is at Fase, but she still looked good. The session was hot and heavy, and she was willing to do anything and everything.

Later that day I headed back to Loutron to see if I could find Alejandra again. Unfortunately I showed up too late and they were about to close at 7 (usually close at 10 on weekdays) and she was taken already. I ended up taking Valentina, another girl with a great fake body, but just wasn't as good as Alejandra.

I had always wanted to try Sara from Colombiascortvip and gave them a call that night. Sara is a very hot spinner that has got some spice to her. She has a great, fun personality and we had a fun time dancing and drinking before getting down. She was not GFE, but it was a great session nonetheless and I would definitely recommend her if you like small spinners. I will definitely see her again if I return to Medellin soon.

Overall, I had a fun time in Medellin, the place has the most beautiful women in the world. I've realize though, that I just need 1 session a day and much prefer the LDV / freelance bar type setup vs casas and strip clubs. If you all have any recommended places to visit to enjoy these, I am all ears (Bogota? Cuba? Somewhere else?).

Many thanks to all the contributing members here for helping me know where to go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1219557]Paracite,

Great report with lots of detail. Thanks for sharing. I have questions:

1) How do you know that your facebook friends are prepagos? I know most girls in Colombia have a price, but its hard to tell if they are pro, semi-pro or just plain sexy from their facebook pages. LOL.

2) Remind me never to go to Loutron for that kind of money.

3) What planet is Tatiana from that she thinks she can get 500K?

Ciao![/QUOTE]1} All my Facebook friends are prepagos 2) Don't go to Loutron 3) Tatiana is from Earth, I think? But the experience is out of this World, well worth 500k, I hope this clears things up for you.

All I have to say is you are a house owner's dream client. In love with silicone, makeup and marked up prices. The most important for you, me and everyone else is we enjoy ourselves. Thanks again for taking the time to write this.

[QUOTE=Paracite; 1219082]Details may be a little spotty as a got back a few days ago, but I wanted to add a report on my trip to MDE from 11/9. 11/13.

Day One.

I flew in on Spirit from O'Hare. FLL. MDE. Immediately upon boarding the flight to MDE, I find that the plane is packed with the sexy paisas, with silicone tits, ass and nose jobs easily appreciated, I LOVE IT!

As we landed in MDE, I noticed a lot of putas hanging around for their paychecks to arrive. I kept making eye contact with a nice silicona that I kept making eye contact with, I finally realized she was a girl I kicked out of my room in the mansion the last time I was here because she refused to kiss and only offered a CBJ. She looks great with those new tits, I definitely wouldn't kick her out again.

Went to the market, settled into Casa Loma (beautiful place) and headed out to Loutron around 6:00PM. The new house is further away, but only about a $10K COP ride out there. The lineup was looking amazing, tons of flacas with very well done implants. I had a hard time picking and went through the lineup 3 times as there were so many hotties. I ended up picking Alejandra, who has to be the hottest girl I have ever f*cked, even though she has a see-section scar. We played around a bit in the room before getting down to business. She doesn't kiss and it is a CBJ, but that didn't bother me at all this trip. My most memorable sessions this trip were actually with girls that were not GFE but had a fun, slightly bitchy, personality and could play "the game" a little. I guess that made it feel more like a natural interaction than the girls that would just be submissive, I like them with a little attitude. Anyways, Alejandra was great in the sack, and actually slipped in for a little LFK during the heat of the moment. Afterward I got her number but didn't end up meeting up with her, biggest mistake of my 3 trips to MDE. Loutron was $225K COP for a session with a beer, and you have to pay a cover charge if you do not session.

That night I headed over to B-lounge for their Wednesday night party. The music sucked for the most part but the crowd had a couple cutties and the bartender as amazingly hot, but had no idea what a redbull vodka was. I was able to chat up a couple of girls outside while getting a smoke and continued inside, but I didn't want to risk my time on an unsure thing. I find it easier to approach attractive women in MDE as I can attribute my lack of game to the language barrier, tends to help my ego, and the girls seem to have fun with a little bit of a language barrier. I headed over to FASE II and ended up snagging Sylvanna for a few drinks, she's a very shy girl but has a great body, and is usually dancing with a silver outfit on. I've had good luck at FASE with getting GFE session and had a great time with Sylvanna. I believe a session on-site is around $190K COP, of which they get $120k. Day one was by far my best day of the trip.

Day Two.

The next day I called up an ex-Loutron girl I had in my phone. Unfortunately, the past year has not been kind as she's plumped up a bit. She stopped by and did anything and everything I asked for, and was $150K for 3 hours. While she was cute and was willing to do anything, I just didn't have as great of a time with her.

I went out to Thai Co. In Parque Lleras for dinner, which seems to be quite the hotspot right now. A ton of people there for just drinks and fairly good eye candy. I was supposed to meet a prepago I connected with over facebook at midnight so I swung by Fase again in the mean time and was tempted to take Biana, a 30 year old with a smoking hot face but no silicone and a little too much of an ass. I got her number for takeout but she wouldn't budge from $200K / hr and I didn't feel she would be worth it. My last day Sylvanna said she told the other girls about us fvcking for for 30. 40 minutes the other night and that is probably why others were charging a lot for takeout, lazy women. Tatiana the prepago flaked on me and I didn't end up doing anything that night. Day two was an absolute bust overall.

Day Three.

I woke up and made plans to see Tatiana during the day, while she flaked on me, she is way too hot not to sample and I arranged to see her around 3PM. I grabbed lunch at Ay Caramba! In parque lleras, smoking hot waitress and eye candy galore during the daytime, plus the food isn't bad. I think the fajitas with a couple of drinks came out to $20K COP. Back at the apartment I met up with Tatiana and made good use of the hot tub. I'll eventually attach some photos, this girl has a perfect body (very slim with great tits) and would be a ton of fun to meet up with for a night out. We agreed to $200K for the night, and instead of discussing money I paid her the same for the 3 hours we were hanging out. Unfortunately she is a bartender at a club and is only able to get out Sunday. Wednesday nights, so I wasn't able to fully enjoy. Unfortunately she asked me not to give out her contact info and only meets friends of friends.

That night I also arranged to meet with another Tatiana I met on facebook. The girl ran 3 hours late and after refusing to talk $ before meeting, asked for $500K for the night. I kicked her out and headed to the rooftop bar at the Charlee hotel in parque lleras, ENVY. The place has got good music, a beautiful crowd a rooftop pool and an amazing view, the Le Bain of Medellin. I would definitely recommend going there with a group of well dressed 20. 30 somethings that go hard. DO NOT go there if you have problems getting into a club in NY, Miami, Vegas or LA, you will stick out like a sore thumb. Drinks are 20. 25K a piece with expensive bottles and they also throw a Saturday pool party o I stopped by Fase for a bit and chatted with Sylvanna, but really wasn't liking anything else there.

Day Four. Final day.

I headed out to a cuban restaurant in parque lleras for breakfast, and it was just packed with hotties. The place is a bit a of a hole in the wall but had good food and the scenery just couldn't be beat. I arranged to meet Sylvanna from Fase back at my apartment and she arrived about an hour late, but let me know before hand. I was a little disappointed that she wasn't as dolled up with makeup as she normally is at Fase, but she still looked good. The session was hot and heavy, and she was willing to do anything and everything.

Later that day I headed back to Loutron to see if I could find Alejandra again. Unfortunately I showed up too late and they were about to close at 7 (usually close at 10 on weekdays) and she was taken already. I ended up taking Valentina, another girl with a great fake body, but just wasn't as good as Alejandra.

I had always wanted to try Sara from Colombiascortvip and gave them a call that night. Sara is a very hot spinner that has got some spice to her. She has a great, fun personality and we had a fun time dancing and drinking before getting down. She was not GFE, but it was a great session nonetheless and I would definitely recommend her if you like small spinners. I will definitely see her again if I return to Medellin soon.

Overall, I had a fun time in Medellin, the place has the most beautiful women in the world. I've realize though, that I just need 1 session a day and much prefer the LDV / freelance bar type setup vs casas and strip clubs. If you all have any recommended places to visit to enjoy these, I am all ears (Bogota? Cuba? Somewhere else?).

Many thanks to all the contributing members here for helping me know where to go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1219557]Paracite,

Great report with lots of detail. Thanks for sharing. I have questions:

1) How do you know that your facebook friends are prepagos? I know most girls in Colombia have a price, but its hard to tell if they are pro, semi-pro or just plain sexy from their facebook pages. LOL.

2) Remind me never to go to Loutron for that kind of money.

3) What planet is Tatiana from that she thinks she can get 500K?

Ciao![/QUOTE]1) Like any other type of network effect, you have a couple of prepagos and mongers from previous trips on your FB and it starts to recommend their friends and others that will likely be prepagos. The beauty of network effects.

2) Gladly, I will happily keep them for myself. I know most on here hate the place, but IMO it has BY FAR the hottest girls in Medellin. I have yet to see a puta in the mansion, Fase II, Luna Lunera, etc that could touch Alejandra or a couple of other Loutron girls in terms of looks. All of this is of course, in the eye of the beholder. Plus, I don't have an issue with non-GFE sessions and they were actually the most fun this past trip.

3) Just to clarify, the Tatiana that wanted 500k was a different tatiana than the one in the pictures. I found during our brief encounter that she has many high $ puta friends that are on websites ($400K / hr) and she wanted to call one of them over before I heard the price and put a quick end to it. If I could get the bartender from be-lounge or the hostess at Ay Caramba for $500K TLN, I would jump at the chance.

Anyone around to hang out and have a couple of drinks?

As much as I may end up hating it (or loving it) I will have to check out Loutron and see for myself what the deal is. I will definitely sample and then compare to the less expensive options.

I blend so I will be combing the less moneyed and / or tourist oriented places hoping for the diamond in the rough.

Wish me luck!

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1219891]Anyone around to hang out and have a couple of drinks?

As much as I may end up hating it (or loving it) I will have to check out Loutron and see for myself what the deal is. I will definitely sample and then compare to the less expensive options.

I blend so I will be combing the less moneyed and / or tourist oriented places hoping for the diamond in the rough.

Wish me luck![/QUOTE]Energy and New Life can have stunning girls in there. You can pull 2 or 3 girls from there for the price of one at Loutron. LOL

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1220118]Energy and New Life can have stunning girls in there. You can pull 2 or 3 girls from there for the price of one at Loutron. LOL[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip mate! Will check for sure and compare.

Does it matter which days? I imagine weekends may have better selection?

Cheers

Sorry didn't find the Medellin hotel and apartment thread.

Reading the threads I figured that this agency is pricey but reputable and providing a good service. I even remember Barry (screenname bbroc) was offering a 10% discount to ISG-members.

My experience with them so far. They answered fast to my Inquiries and offered to send me a quote after selecting an apartment. To my big surprise I got a quote higher than what is mentioned on their homepage. So let us open the discussion, if ISG-members get a surcharge instead of a discount.

An other question I would like to have feedback is question 26 from their FAQ page:

26. Can I bring guests back to the apartment?

Once you have arrived at your apartment, it is literally your home away from home. Guests may visit you in the apartment as many times as you like, whenever you like without additional cost, however any person staying more than one night will be required to pay.

So are they girl friendly – in my opinion a main reason to choose an apartment instead of hotel. So do they really charge? Do they charge for staying with your novia several nights, but for having another prepago every night its free?

So please give your experiences / thoughts.

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1220233]Thanks for the tip mate! Will check for sure and compare.

Does it matter which days? I imagine weekends may have better selection?

Cheers[/QUOTE]On the contrary, I've found the hotter putas in the casas on the weekdays. The girls save their money for the weekends to get their nails and hair done along with some new clothes to party with!!

Or they have to stay home with their kids, husbands and novios on the weekends. Its pretty funny, most of the chicks will tell you that they tell their families or boyfriends that they work in offices and stores and they ACTUALLY buy that excuse or are playing stupid. Jaja LOL

Kinda like how one of my ATFs tells her family she's a secretary. A secretary who can't type, use a computer, or even spell might be a bit of a rarity these days.

I hope to inspire some fresh, not necessarily new, dialog. Just my stream of consciousness of what is relevant to me.

Which are the best raincoats? Sensitivity wise. Because I think they all suck and I am getting desperate and I wasn't smart enough to save the wrapper when I thought I found a good one. For a while I was using dry ones by Trojan and bought these mini one shot packets of lube which seemed to be okay. Kind of thick but it was better than others since the damn thing wasnt sliding around because of the lube inside.

Which are the best bootleg Vitamins? Personally, the one's they sell in Colombia that are like little diamonds, I think are the best. Not the rounded diamond shape ones which are also bigger. I commonly find it difficult to finish, even with the real stuff. However, there could be many other factors which inhibit on any given occasion. I have a pretty high metabolism and eat many small meals a day. Maybe someone in the field can come up with some exact names. I ordered from India once and I thought they were okay but kind of week considering the strength they were labeled. I was later warned (by just another dude) not to order from India because their regulations on quality and contents are bad.

Best Cafe, panaderia: Darn it I wish I paid more attention to names on my last visit but in Centro on the East side of Ave Oriental at or near Calle 57a. For me its a perfect spot to give my mojo an extra boost while waiting for 10:30 or 11 to roll around. Located on a corner, they have a complete selection of Colombian pastries and breads. Everything I have tried there has been great! And a cute paisa brings your order to your table. Situated right around the corner from both Angels de Fuego and Massages de Sexi and others.

Best lunch spot: Nutibarra. I tout this place all the time. Diagnonally across from Parque Botero. Kind of like a big terrace raised off of street level. Roasted chicken is fresh and awesome. Once it was a little over cooked which made the wing inedible but the rest was still delicious. And not expensive.

Best Casa: I vote for New Life. There have been times when it was a complete miss but more than any of the others, it has been great. PS I have kinda of noticed the locals call them something other than Casas but can't remember the word. Anyone know?

Best Road trip: So far for me it's El Penol. The big rock with like 600 stairs the zig zag up the crack. Hehe. And the cute town 5 minutes away. Careful. The buses back to Medellin stop running kind of early. Spending a Friday night in the town would probably be a lot of fun though.

Biggest waste of time: Taking the metrocable to the National parque past the Biblioteca. And I even rented horses. Whatever. The metrocable is cool and so is the biblioteca and the area around it. But in my opinion the park itself is kind of a waste and takes a long time to get to. And they charge you an extra metrocable fee. Anyone else have a great time there? Something I missed?

Best Festival or Holiday. I have only been to the Flower Festival. It was pretty cool. With lots of things to see around the city. Personally, I prefer to visit during just a regular calm time but it seems to me like Halloween can be particularly entertaining if you're in a good spot.

Biggest boobs: I have witnessed the largest encounters at F2. You might think Hooters but no.

Ok enough. Feel free to add any of your own personal biggests and bestests.

Best local attraction. Besides the women.

Thanks

Jetlagged but went to Energy hoping for a great start to my umpteenth MDE trip. Did not happen. Unfortunately, picked Lauda who knew just what not to do to keep me down. I do not recommend. Receprion requested 98, 000COP. I hope its inflation and not gringo price. Either way its bad though. To address the theme bestest from previous contribution my best condom is durex ultra sensitive I seem to enjoy my sessions most with that brand. I rate Colombian women as the 3rd hottest in Latin America. I rate Argentinians as numero uno followed by Brazilians. I always have great sessions in Brazil the best I have anywhere in the world but have scaled back my activities there to avoid going bankrupt.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1220315]I hope to inspire some fresh, not necessarily new, dialog. Just my stream of consciousness of what is relevant to me. I

Which are the best raincoats? Sensitivity wise. Because I think they all suck and I am getting desperate and I wasn't smart enough to save the wrapper when I thought I found a good one. For a while I was using dry ones by Trojan and bought these mini one shot packets of lube which seemed to be okay. Kind of thick but it was better than others since the damn thing wasnt sliding around because of the lube inside.

Which are the best bootleg Vitamins? Personally, the one's they sell in Colombia that are like little diamonds, I think are the best. Not the rounded diamond shape ones which are also bigger. I commonly find it difficult to finish, even with the real stuff. However, there could be many other factors which inhibit on any given occasion. I have a pretty high metabolism and eat many small meals a day. Maybe someone in the field can come up with some exact names. I ordered from India once and I thought they were okay but kind of week considering the strength they were labeled. I was later warned (by just another dude) not to order from India because their regulations on quality and contents are bad.

Best Cafe, panaderia: Darn it I wish I paid more attention to names on my last visit but in Centro on the East side of Ave Oriental at or near Calle 57a. For me its a perfect spot to give my mojo an extra boost while waiting for 10:30 or 11 to roll around. Located on a corner, they have a complete selection of Colombian pastries and breads. Everything I have tried there has been great! And a cute paisa brings your order to your table. Situated right around the corner from both Angels de Fuego and Massages de Sexi and others.

Best lunch spot: Nutibarra. I tout this place all the time. Diagnonally across from Parque Botero. Kind of like a big terrace raised off of street level. Roasted chicken is fresh and awesome. Once it was a little over cooked which made the wing inedible but the rest was still delicious. And not expensive.

Best Casa: I vote for New Life. There have been times when it was a complete miss but more than any of the others, it has been great. PS I have kinda of noticed the locals call them something other than Casas but can't remember the word. Anyone know?

Best Road trip: So far for me it's El Penol. The big rock with like 600 stairs the zig zag up the crack. Hehe. And the cute town 5 minutes away. Careful. The buses back to Medellin stop running kind of early. Spending a Friday night in the town would probably be a lot of fun though.

Biggest waste of time: Taking the metrocable to the National parque past the Biblioteca. And I even rented horses. Whatever. The metrocable is cool and so is the biblioteca and the area around it. But in my opinion the park itself is kind of a waste and takes a long time to get to. And they charge you an extra metrocable fee. Anyone else have a great time there? Something I missed?

Best Festival or Holiday. I have only been to the Flower Festival. It was pretty cool. With lots of things to see around the city. Personally, I prefer to visit during just a regular calm time but it seems to me like Halloween can be particularly entertaining if you're in a good spot.

Biggest boobs: I have witnessed the largest encounters at F2. You might think Hooters but no.

Ok enough. Feel free to add any of your own personal biggests and bestests.

Best local attraction. Besides the women.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I get mine at a site called condom depot. They have the quality and quantity going for them. I recommend Kimonos micro thins. A blue packet. They have the best sensation. Great post. I hope to meet you someday in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1220315]I hope to inspire some fresh, not necessarily new, dialog. Just my stream of consciousness of what is relevant to me.

Which are the best raincoats? Sensitivity wise. Because I think they all suck and I am getting desperate and I wasn't smart enough to save the wrapper when I thought I found a good one. For a while I was using dry ones by Trojan and bought these mini one shot packets of lube which seemed to be okay. Kind of thick but it was better than others since the damn thing wasnt sliding around because of the lube inside.

Biggest boobs: I have witnessed the largest encounters at F2. You might think Hooters but no.

Ok enough. Feel free to add any of your own personal biggests and bestests.

Best local attraction. Besides the women.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I also get mine from the condom depot. They have the best prices and ship quickly. My all time favorite is Crown. The are the most sensitive, and strongest I have ever found. I also have a small allergy it seems to latex, but for some reason have never had a problem with the Crown brand. They also have another "model" called Seven I think which is pretty good. After those, I have good luck with Lifestyles micro-thin, but I like one that has a touch of lube on the inside as well. I also suggest Pjur personal lube, the stuff is the bomb! Good for any location, a little goes a long way and at least for me always seem to make things a little smoother, no matter how wet the girl seems to be.

I would agree that F2 has the most consistent gathering of large (mostly fake) tits I have every seen outside of a Las Vegas strip club! While they don't compare in terms of shear size, a night at Escape in Hong Kong watching all the little Viet gals with their plastic boobs is pretty eye catching as well.

I'm in Medellintill Dec 2, and need some recomendations for a massage place or a good casa to find a beutiful girl for a session, any help is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Tico05;1220801]I'm in Medellintill Dec 2, and need some recomendations for a massage place or a good casa to find a beutiful girl for a session, any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Here is a good tip; read the boards, use the search feature, and I'll save you the trouble of asking: If you don't speak spanish or are VERY handsome you have no chance with "regular"girls.

Report back

Please check the "Info for Newbies" thread. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tico05;1220801]I'm in Medellintill Dec 2, and need some recomendations for a massage place or a good casa to find a beutiful girl for a session, any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Back in MDE after a few months absence. Arrived on Wednesday headed for Abydos, yesterday went to Energy and today New Life. Have some time now so can post, have not in the past due to lack of time. I notice that what I'm about to do is not usually done in this forum but is done in others but what the heck. Went with pen and paper to New Life, was presented with 15 chicas as follows:

Melinin. 5/10.

Jessica. 5.

Nicole. 6.

Sada. 4.

Julietta. 5.5.

Pamela. 5.

Carolina. 5.

Leidi. 5.

Daniela. 4.

Carlene. 7.

Luiza. 6.

Marcela. 6.

Cameela. 5.

Michelle. 6.

Suzanna. 5.

There were 3 other dudes checking the lineup, I was slow on the draw and lost arlene and Luiza. Went with Nicole, nothing to write home about.

One guy's 5 is another's 8, and could be another's 10.

Happy holidays!

Hello.

Marry a semi / prepago or get her a VISA for your country. Keep everything confidential, maybe move to a another city with more work for you and her. Make your homework to make sure that everything is legal.

If she is a professional guapa she can easily pay half of your cost of living after she has created a client network, with little work. If she works a lot she can save (a lot of) money.

Then you take long vacacions in Colombia (or where you prefer to go). Start preparing to live there as retired.

You save all expenses on mongering and get a beautiful wife who can contribute to the households expenses.

If you have a flexible work, you can escape northern US / Canada or Europe for some horrible winter months every year, without having to being mongering desperate. Visit only your favorites while being there.

The thing is that she can divorce you after 2-3 years and then get a permanent VISA. But she will be looking for other men either way, so you don't have to be depressed when she files for a divorce, just make sure that you have signed "capitulaciones matrimoniales" so you don't loose your house and car and have to pay alimoney for years.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1221097]One guy's 5 is another's 8, and could be another's 10.

Happy holidays![/QUOTE]I'm curious to see what his criteria is. Also performance, attitude, services provided also need to be considered. What would you rather have? A 10 in the street that is a 2 in the sack or a 6-7 in the street that fucks like a porn star-girlfriend?

Hello.

I have met guapas who actually have considered my idea to come and work as a pornomodel in the US or Europe.

I have looked a what a pornomodel can make and with success she can make a lot of money while actually having realitively little sex with other men (models).

That is also an option.

The producion companies welcome latinas because they accept lower wages, but still very high, and today this business is professionally run, even Milcap (Private) are on the Nasdaq.

90% of us mongerers have nnormal incomes, it's just to expensive to make your erotic dreams come true on an ordinary salary even if you are mongering in Colombia. You have to make compromises that gives that ease on the erotic and economical pressure. Because mongering is adictive, more than alcohol or cocaine.

Hello,

If your girl makes some pornos and get a name, she can charge a lot more as a stripper, and the number of men actually having sex with her will decrease. She will bring her stripper friends to parties and you can enjoy their

Company as well.

Hi Guys,

Been trawling a little on Colombia Cupid in the hope of increasing the numbers of contacts I have when I get to Medellin next month.

Would you agree that any younger chica (23) who writes that she is "looking for a guy 20-45." is 100% P4P?

In one particular case I'the be happy if she is P4P because I would be more than happy to bone one in particular but even so, these girls play it very slow – they are not exactly working to keep you interested!

Has anyone actually met up with CC girls who fall into the 'almost certainly P4P' category? Appreciate any comments.

I guess the saying that there is 'no fool like an old fool" applies here!

Bubba

[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1221192]Hi Guys,

Been trawling a little on Colombia Cupid in the hope of increasing the numbers of contacts I have when I get to Medellin next month.

Would you agree that any younger chica (23) who writes that she is "looking for a guy 20-45." is 100% P4P?

In one particular case I'the be happy if she is P4P because I would be more than happy to bone one in particular but even so, these girls play it very slow – they are not exactly working to keep you interested!

Has anyone actually met up with CC girls who fall into the 'almost certainly P4P' category? Appreciate any comments.

I guess the saying that there is 'no fool like an old fool" applies here!

Bubba[/QUOTE]Usually when I see looking for a guy 18-70 that means p4p. Also, when it says activity partner. But the biggest clue is how there dressed in the fotos. But, what I do in the most polite manner is talk nogocios.

[QUOTE=Tico05;1220801]I'm in Medellintill Dec 2, and need some recomendations for a massage place or a good casa to find a beutiful girl for a session, any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]No offense but, should have done your homework. There is a list of casas, and places you can go. You can talk with the girls at the casas and set something up for later dates. The other resources are the cab drives.

[QUOTE=Smily59; 1220237]Sorry didn't find the Medellin hotel and apartment thread.

Reading the threads I figured that this agency is pricey but reputable and providing a good service. I even remember Barry (screenname bbroc) was offering a 10% discount to ISG-members.

My experience with them so far. They answered fast to my Inquiries and offered to send me a quote after selecting an apartment. To my big surprise I got a quote higher than what is mentioned on their homepage. So let us open the discussion, if ISG-members get a surcharge instead of a discount.

An other question I would like to have feedback is question 26 from their FAQ page:

26. Can I bring guests back to the apartment?

Once you have arrived at your apartment, it is literally your home away from home. Guests may visit you in the apartment as many times as you like, whenever you like without additional cost, however any person staying more than one night will be required to pay.

So are they girl friendly – in my opinion a main reason to choose an apartment instead of hotel. So do they really charge? Do they charge for staying with your novia several nights, but for having another prepago every night its free?

So please give your experiences / thoughts.[/QUOTE]I have used these guys 2 or 3 times before the apartments are nice and they were girl friendly. The only problem was with the noise. Brought 2 girls home one nite and we were all drunk and making alot of noise. The desk called me and told me there were complaints. The next day was told that residence didn't want noise after 10.

[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1221192]Hi Guys,

Been trawling a little on Colombia Cupid in the hope of increasing the numbers of contacts I have when I get to Medellin next month.

Would you agree that any younger chica (23) who writes that she is "looking for a guy 20-45." is 100% P4P?

Bubba[/QUOTE]Note so much the 20-45 range thing. If she's 20's then a guy 15-20 years older is pretty common in Colombia. Now if she's says 20-60 or 80 then yes 100% working girl.

Good luck. I actually have met several nice "normal" girls and only 1 semi-pro. From what I read Romancelatina is full of working girls.

[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1221192]Hi Guys,

Been trawling a little on Colombia Cupid in the hope of increasing the numbers of contacts I have when I get to Medellin next month.

Would you agree that any younger chica (23) who writes that she is "looking for a guy 20-45." is 100% P4P?

In one particular case I'the be happy if she is P4P because I would be more than happy to bone one in particular but even so, these girls play it very slow – they are not exactly working to keep you interested!

Has anyone actually met up with CC girls who fall into the 'almost certainly P4P' category? Appreciate any comments.

I guess the saying that there is 'no fool like an old fool" applies here!

Bubba[/QUOTE]I am 50 years old and have Been on the site for 2 months now, and have written to about 15 women. 2 have remain in contact the entire time and wll probably meet one for sure when I come in May 2012.

But I joined not for your reasons, so perhaps my comments are not what your looking for, the young ones that have contacted me, seem to be after just the $$, the youngest 18 years, but she keeps writing even after I have said I'm only going to MDE, to look for a future retirement spot.

Another thing is I only reply to the women that send me interest which are generally 35 years to 45 years, I'm looking for more of the friend that knows the area person, not a hump session.

So my picks are plain, employed and non smokers, in fact the one from Bogota I have talked to the most on "Skype" is 40 years old, works in a clinic and her youngest child is 16 years old, we talk every Friday on Skype and my spanish has improved dramatically, she corrects my grammer, past and present forms, we do actually conversations I will have in taxi's, on the street, in the stores.

This would not be provided to me I think by a young one, cause as we know because we were young once, attention and focus is just not there

So yes in my opinion the site worked wonders for me, but I was looking for friends that could show me Colombia, I let the women pick me, and I made it clear from the start I wasn't after sex or a wife

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Nowrath;1221248]I am 50 years old and have Been on the site for 2 months now, and have written to about 15 women. 2 have remain in contact the entire time and wll probably meet one for sure when I come in May 2012.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nowrath. Appreciate your comments. I have had contact with quite a few older women who I have replied to and one or two of them look like they could be long term friends. Not trying to defend myself here but I do reply and treat them respectfully and don't bullshit. All the same, I can feel myself getting drawn in slowly.

So I agree that there are plenty of very nice attractive older women on the site who could easily develop into good friends and mixed amongst them are the P4P girls that as you indicate and young and not too worried by what might happen tomorrow.

Somehow I doubt that I can meet these women and also meet P4P women in a single trip. I think it would have to be separated in time and space!

Thanks again.

Bubba

[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1221264]Somehow I doubt that I can meet these women and also meet P4P women in a single trip. I think it would have to be separated in time and space!

Bubba[/QUOTE]I do it all the times. You have to arrange your time as you see fit. As mentioned here before, Colombian women are often very flaky. You need a backup plan and the P4P women are just that.

Cheers

I did the dating sites too before my last visit. It can be encouraging and misleading at the same time. The pros, after 1 or 2 contacts, will just give you their email and number and tell you to contact them when you arrive. Good luck catching them at the right moment. The semi pros and non pros will take a little longer for them to size you up. My experience was, while it was exciting getting responses from many hot chicas, collecting emails and numbers and a chance to get a little Spanish practice, in the end it was not a great tool as far as actually meeting girls. IMHO these females have a very RIGHT NOW mindset which can be great and frustrating as well. The key is to not let any single chica get stuck in your head. In the US, where everyone is so busy, real or pretend, when meeting girls I say something like, it's interesting to meet you, maybe we can meet up sometime, and then try to plan something with them in the near future. If I happen to make their top ten things to do list, we meet. In Colombia, be it online, at a club or on the street, I say something like, Nice to meet you, do you want to blah blah blah with me right now, tonight or tomorrow? If they like your suggestion, are not doing anything or yours is a better offer, they just might agree. Good manners will often get you very positive feedback. One in the hand is worth two in the Bush, is in full effect in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1221192]Hi Guys,

Been trawling a little on Colombia Cupid in the hope of increasing the numbers of contacts I have when I get to Medellin next month.

Would you agree that any younger chica (23) who writes that she is "looking for a guy 20-45." is 100% P4P?

In one particular case I'the be happy if she is P4P because I would be more than happy to bone one in particular but even so, these girls play it very slow – they are not exactly working to keep you interested!

Has anyone actually met up with CC girls who fall into the 'almost certainly P4P' category? Appreciate any comments.

I guess the saying that there is 'no fool like an old fool" applies here!

Bubba[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1221097]One guy's 5 is another's 8, and could be another's 10.

Happy holidays![/QUOTE]And one guy's 5 could be another's 3. I try to be as objective as possible and rating has nothing to do with performance. I returned to New Life on Saturday and sampled Jessica who was much better in the sack than Nicole. I generally find less good looking chicas much betterr in bed than their better looking sisters. Nicole was so damn lazy. I saw more consistent 6'2 and 7's at Abydos and Energy. I will return to these establishments with pen and paper before I leave Medellin but before that, Leutrons.

Hasideas Tao. Perfectly said! My experience is the same.

The Tall Man

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1221418]My experience was, while it was exciting getting responses from many hot chicas, collecting emails and numbers and a chance to get a little Spanish practice, in the end it was not a great tool as far as actually meeting girls. IMHO these females have a very RIGHT NOW mindset which can be great and frustrating as well. .[/QUOTE]Thanks Hasideas Tao. Plus Play Hard, Siam City and Ezyngo. You guys really crystallized the situation and the advice was great.

Cheers,

Bubba

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1220315]I hope to inspire some fresh, not necessarily new, dialog. Just my stream of consciousness of what is relevant to me.

Which are the best bootleg Vitamins? Personally, the one's they sell in Colombia that are like little diamonds, I think are the best. Not the rounded diamond shape ones which are also bigger. I commonly find it difficult to finish, even with the real stuff. However, there could be many other factors which inhibit on any given occasion. I have a pretty high metabolism and eat many small meals a day. Maybe someone in the field can come up with some exact names. I ordered from India once and I thought they were okay but kind of week considering the strength they were labeled. I was later warned (by just another dude) not to order from India because their regulations on quality and contents are bad.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Best bootleg Viagra in Colombia that I found is in the pharmacy in Oveido mall. First one on the left as you walk down the stairs and enter the mall. These were better than the ones in BOG or CTG.

[QUOTE=VikingoLoco; 1221146]Hello.

I have met guapas who actually have considered my idea to come and work as a pornomodel in the US or Europe.

I have looked a what a pornomodel can make and with success she can make a lot of money while actually having realitively little sex with other men (models).

That is also an option.

The producion companies welcome latinas because they accept lower wages, but still very high, and today this business is professionally run, even Milcap (Private) are on the Nasdaq.

90% of us mongerers have nnormal incomes, it's just to expensive to make your erotic dreams come true on an ordinary salary even if you are mongering in Colombia. You have to make compromises that gives that ease on the erotic and economical pressure. Because mongering is adictive, more than alcohol or cocaine.[/QUOTE]I don't think most guys on this forum are aspiring to be pimps. Keep those humorous ideas coming though. Very funny.

i get the impression there are a lot of nice restaurants downhill from calle 10, below 43a, both right and left. can someone kindly give me the lowdown on these, a list and the best? thanks.

chesrep001

there are only a few. go up the hill to parque lleras.

[url]http://www.communitywalk.com/medellinexecutivehotel[/url]

[quote=chesrep001; 1222134]i get the impression there are a lot of nice restaurants downhill from calle 10, below 43a, both right and left. can someone kindly give me the lowdown on these, a list and the best? thanks.

chesrep001[/quote]

Obviously I would never think of passing this on. I contracted it from a dishonest chica in Bogotá or Risaralda spent a year angry in therapy but dos not change a thing. A lot of the women there are lairs looking for a meal ticket and way out. I got so used to be being treated like some kind of sex God and then relized I was just some fantasy, something they would consider exotic because I look different and associate me bring foreigner with being rich.

Anyway I am back because I have a kid here with one of the women I need a dna test. So anyone know any women with aids?

[QUOTE=Playa11; 1222575]Obviously I would never think of passing this on. I contracted it from a dishonest chica in Bogotá or Risaralda spent a year angry in therapy but dos not change a thing. A lot of the women there are lairs looking for a meal ticket and way out. I got so used to be being treated like some kind of sex God and then relized I was just some fantasy, something they would consider exotic because I look different and associate me bring foreigner with being rich.

Anyway I am back because I have a kid here with one of the women I need a dna test. So anyone know any women with aids? You do not remember the girls you had unprotected sex with. You comment is very sobering What type of sex were you having as it hard to get aids unless you are doing unprotected sex and you are doing anal at the same time.

[QUOTE=Playa11; 1222575]Obviously I would never think of passing this on. I contracted it from a dishonest chica in Bogotá or Risaralda spent a year angry in therapy but dos not change a thing. A lot of the women there are lairs looking for a meal ticket and way out. I got so used to be being treated like some kind of sex God and then relized I was just some fantasy, something they would consider exotic because I look different and associate me bring foreigner with being rich.

Anyway I am back because I have a kid here with one of the women I need a dna test. So anyone know any women with aids?[/QUOTE]Your second post and you come in here with this bombshell. God I hope not but why don't you give us some info on where and how you met this chica, you trusted her? Seems like you knew her, why can't youmake contact with her now? Why are you not wearing a condom? All of your generalizing stereotypes and then come in here with a bombshell like that? Sounds like a BULLSHIT SPAM POST. Why don't you post a picture of her so people can be on a look out for her?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1222688]Your second post and you come in here with this bombshell. God I hope not but why don't you give us some info on where and how you met this chica, you trusted her? Seems like you knew her, why can't youmake contact with her now? Why are you not wearing a condom? All of your generalizing stereotypes and then come in here with a bombshell like that? Sounds like a BULLSHIT SPAM POST. Why don't you post a picture of her so people can be on a look out for her?[/QUOTE]I agree. I call bullshit. The likelihood of contracting AIDS from heterosexual intercourse is extremely low unless she is an intravenous drug user or a hemophiliac. And, in heterosexual intercourse, the woman is much more likely to be exposed to AIDS than the man. Especially contracting full blown AIDS. With modern drugs, HIV infected persons can delay the onset of AIDS for years and years.

Gents, Sammytheman gave me a very inexpensive option to get to MDE. Through Niagara Falls, NY.

As those that live in Ontario realize, this is quite a hassle if you don't want to drive. How else do you get to MDE (exclude the obvious Pearson Int'l)? What are other cheap options to get there.

BTW, November was cancelled due to work, but now I can go in March. Anyone else going?

Has anyone flown Spirit Airlines out of Niagara? I'm reading reviews, and I'm pretty much worried about cancelled flights leaving me stranded somewhere.

[QUOTE=Rafzuh;1222753]Has anyone flown Spirit Airlines out of Niagara? I'm reading reviews, and I'm pretty much worried about cancelled flights leaving me stranded somewhere.[/QUOTE]On the same note. The only viable option is to take 2 flights to Colombia. First leg on Air Canada or Porter to EWR (Newark) or any airline to NYC (JFK, La Guardia). I would take Miami route instead during winter time.

Thomas Cook Canada has charter flights to Cartagena. I have checked February flights and they run at $875 for 2 weeks. Just exercise caution with this airline as the parent company is in dire straits (book only with credit card through a TICO agency).

[QUOTE=Rafzuh;1222753]Has anyone flown Spirit Airlines out of Niagara? I'm reading reviews, and I'm pretty much worried about cancelled flights leaving me stranded somewhere.[/QUOTE]I don't know about flights from Niagara, but Spirit Airlines is going down hill fast. A once nice low fare carrier has now become a specialist in ripping off customers with many easy to see, and not so easy to spot tricks.

Around 40 % of my flights leaving their hub in Ft. Lauderdale have had delays. No problems in going from FLL to Latin America as there are no more stops so they will wait for all the delayed flights. It is going to Stateside destinations where the real problems start. Not that long ago I had a 8:35 PM flight leave at 5:30 the next morning. We were supossed to get a $100 credit for the delay, but when I tried to collect it on another flight the customer service rep. (who spoke broken English, I don't think he was even in the USA) told me I had no credit for the incident.

I could make a list of all the gimicks they use to get extra money from you, but I don't feel like getting my blood pressure up.

I wish South West flew to Latin America.

[QUOTE=Rafzuh;1222753]Has anyone flown Spirit Airlines out of Niagara? I'm reading reviews, and I'm pretty much worried about cancelled flights leaving me stranded somewhere.[/QUOTE]You have true concerns. First one has to get to the airport, cross border, pay for long term parking, take a night flight with a risk of it being cancelled and pay extra luggage fees. If you are a solo traveler it adds up to $350 extra costs to a Spirit fare.

Spirit does not goes downhill. Not yet. The recent new Airbus contract puts them in range for flights to Brazil.

[QUOTE=Questner; 1223127]You have true concerns. First one has to get to the airport, cross border, pay for long term parking, take a night flight with a risk of it being cancelled and pay extra luggage fees. If you are a solo traveler it adds up to $350 extra costs to a Spirit fare.

Spirit does not goes downhill. Not yet. The recent new Airbus contract puts them in range for flights to Brazil.[/QUOTE]I meant to say their treatment of their customers is going downhill. It is Certain they are making a lot of money, but that is not my concern.

[QUOTE=John Gault;1223201]I meant to say their treatment of their customers is going downhill. It is Certain they are making a lot of money, but that is not my concern.[/QUOTE]I have never and will never fly Spirit as the large number or horror stories and complaints that I have seen and heard has painted the picture of a shit discount airline. Also the fact that they have the NERVE to charge you $25 for a carry on speaks volumes as to their business model and lack or moral fiber!

[QUOTE=John Gault;1223201]I meant to say their treatment of their customers is going downhill. It is Certain they are making a lot of money, but that is not my concern.[/QUOTE]I almost took them one time when their ticket was like $200 LESS then AA but by the time I added all of the fees, taxes, food, luggage, carry on charge, seat size charge, plus I didn't have to drive to lauderdale I just said fuck it and stayed on AA from Miami.

Hi all, hope everyone is doing well. I've been to Medellin several times and Colombia is still one of the best places to buy prescription medicine on the cheap, zolpidem (ambien) cost 7k for 10 pack (thats 35 cents a pill).

However, I'm having trouble locating a pharmacy that sells zaleplon (trade name Sonata) , as ambien has too much side effects for me. Oddly I have no trouble locating Zolpiclone (Lunesta) in Medellin Pharmacies on the cheap (10k for 10 pack). Zolpiclone has less side effects and more preferrable to me than Zolpidem but I would like to try out Zaleplon as I heard it supposedly has the least side-effects of all the z-drugs.

However whenever I mention Zaleplon to Pharmacists in Medellin all I get are shrugs and blank stares, does anyone know if it goes by another trade name or is Sonata / Zaleplone just not available in Colombia?

I hate Spirit!

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1222821]I don't know about flights from Niagara, but Spirit Airlines is going down hill fast. A once nice low fare carrier has now become a specialist in ripping off customers with many easy to see, and not so easy to spot tricks.

Around 40 % of my flights leaving their hub in Ft. Lauderdale have had delays. No problems in going from FLL to Latin America as there are no more stops so they will wait for all the delayed flights. It is going to Stateside destinations where the real problems start. Not that long ago I had a 8:35 PM flight leave at 5:30 the next morning. We were supossed to get a $100 credit for the delay, but when I tried to collect it on another flight the customer service rep. (who spoke broken English, I don't think he was even in the USA) told me I had no credit for the incident.

I could make a list of all the gimicks they use to get extra money from you, but I don't feel like getting my blood pressure up.

I wish South West flew to Latin America.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1223538]I hate Spirit![/QUOTE]Spirit is garbage! And they don't even fly to Cali! They are so Lame!

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1223241]I have never and will never fly Spirit as the large number or horror stories and complaints that I have seen and heard has painted the picture of a shit discount airline. Also the fact that they have the NERVE to charge you $25 for a carry on speaks volumes as to their business model and lack or moral fiber![/QUOTE]I saw this on foxnews, This is becoming the way to travel in the future, Domestic flights, Shit like Spirit, Short Trips. I'm going to get one. Once you get on board, take it off and store it in the overhead compartment.

The airlines are making millions, finding all kinds of ways to nickel and dime us. It takes innovative inventors like this guy, to find ways to CIRCUMVENT.

I'm going to get one for my short international trips and trips to NYC. So far it IS airline compliant and they haven't said anything, for how long? Who knows?


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3693637/Mad-way-to-beat-luggage-charges.html

[url]https://www.rufusroo.com/shop/index.php?&currency=2&language=2[/url]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1223538]I hate Spirit![/QUOTE]Regular free upgrade to First Class, no charges for carry-on or checked in baggage, priority boarding, and most importantly, ticket prices COMPARABLE and normally LOWER than other airline.

Cheers

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1223595]I saw this on foxnews, This is becoming the way to travel in the future, Domestic flights, Shit like Spirit, Short Trips. I'm going to get one. Once you get on board, take it off and store it in the overhead compartment.

The airlines are making millions, finding all kinds of ways to nickel and dime us. It takes innovative inventors like this guy, to find ways to CIRCUMVENT.

I'm going to get one for my short international trips and trips to NYC. So far it IS airline compliant and they haven't said anything, for how long? Who knows?

[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3693637/Mad-way-to-beat-luggage-charges.html[/url]

[url]https://www.rufusroo.com/shop/index.php?&currency=2&language=2[/url][/QUOTE]Necessity is the mother of invention! I too my drop a few bucks and try it out.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1223595]I saw this on foxnews, This is becoming the way to travel in the future, Domestic flights, Shit like Spirit, Short Trips. I'm going to get one. Once you get on board, take it off and store it in the overhead compartment.

The airlines are making millions, finding all kinds of ways to nickel and dime us. It takes innovative inventors like this guy, to find ways to CIRCUMVENT.

I'm going to get one for my short international trips and trips to NYC. So far it IS airline compliant and they haven't said anything, for how long? Who knows?

[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3693637/Mad-way-to-beat-luggage-charges.html[/url]

[url]https://www.rufusroo.com/shop/index.php?&currency=2&language=2[/url][/QUOTE]I got on a plane heading to Santiago, the guy sitting next to me was wearing a skeet vest, I say," What you shoot Competition?" He says," No, I am president of a Charity operating in the DR." He had more crap in his vest than I did my carry-on.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1223652]I got on a plane heading to Santiago, the guy sitting next to me was wearing a skeet vest, I say," What you shoot Competition?" He says," No, I am president of a Charity operating in the DR." He had more crap in his vest than I did my carry-on.[/QUOTE]Hill I think this is more for guys traveling Spirit, or you know when you have that one or two bags that are over 50lbs and you have to take shit out and rearrange in order to not be charged the $50 overage? This would be perfect for situations like that. OR when I fly into MDE or BOG and stay there a few days then take a local flight to another city where the baggage limit is 35 or 40lbs, what do you do with that 15lbs that came in with your original bags?

AA, TACA, COPA, Avianca International still allow the 2 bags at 50lbs each.

This Jacket, along with your 2 carry-ons and you should be good.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1223657]Hill I think this is more for guys traveling Spirit, or you know when you have that one or two bags that are over 50lbs and you have to take shit out and rearrange in order to not be charged the $50 overage? This would be perfect for situations like that. OR when I fly into MDE or BOG and stay there a few days then take a local flight to another city where the baggage limit is 35 or 40lbs, what do you do with that 15lbs that came in with your original bags?

AA, TACA, COPA, Avianca International still allow the 2 bags at 50lbs each.

This Jacket, along with your 2 carry-ons and you should be good.[/QUOTE]Some guys like me go Carry-on only even if the checked bag is free, too much BS with checked baggage, I am usually always first one out of Airport, but I know what you are saying my bags are ready to pop out of their zippers. As far as that goes a fannie pack can pack alot of shit also and walk on the plane.

Copa, Lacsa and Taca are all good. From most cities, given some advance planning, they compete with Spirt's prices. Now I wish I didn't just say that, because it will drive up price and shove down availability on those airlines.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1223760]Copa, Lacsa and Taca are all good. From most cities, given some advance planning, they compete with Spirt's prices. Now I wish I didn't just say that, because it will drive up price and shove down availability on those airlines.[/QUOTE]Did you say something that any educated "do your homework" monger wouldn't know? LOL. Not as bad a blowing up a new casa or MP saying that they offer 20k BBBJ. Jajajaja Thats always the kiss of death!

Personal efforts for improving on the overall experience.

For all you true music lovers and lovers lovers who understand how to create an atmosphere, I would like to note, Pandora, an awesome internet radio web site, does not workin Medellin. The alternative seems to be youtube but creating play list seems tedious. Any suggestions for internet radio in Colombia?

Seems like Netflix is also a no show. They should at least set up a "pay to watch now per movie" rate in CO.

I'm also curious to know if it is possible to access PayPal.

Anyone try to use a magic jack?

Peace

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1224267]Personal efforts for improving on the overall experience.

For all you true music lovers and lovers lovers who understand how to create an atmosphere, I would like to note, Pandora, an awesome internet radio web site, does not workin Medellin. The alternative seems to be youtube but creating play list seems tedious. Any suggestions for internet radio in Colombia?

Seems like Netflix is also a no show. They should at least set up a "pay to watch now per movie" rate in CO.

I'm also curious to know if it is possible to access PayPal.

Anyone try to use a magic jack?

Peace[/QUOTE]You are wrong about Netflix, it is available in Colombia.

I don't bother with internet radio, I have about 1000 songs that the ladies like downloaded on my computer, I show them how to play them and let them choose what they want to listen to.

Magic Jack works fine in Colombia.

I use [url]http://www.youtube-mp3.org/[/url] And make my own mp3s and put on ipod or iphone and let them choose.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1224267]Personal efforts for improving on the overall experience.

For all you true music lovers and lovers lovers who understand how to create an atmosphere, I would like to note, Pandora, an awesome internet radio web site, does not workin Medellin. The alternative seems to be youtube but creating play list seems tedious. Any suggestions for internet radio in Colombia?

Seems like Netflix is also a no show. They should at least set up a "pay to watch now per movie" rate in CO.

I'm also curious to know if it is possible to access PayPal.

Anyone try to use a magic jack?

Peace[/QUOTE.

I use both Magic Jack, and Skype in Colombia. Skype is a little clearer sometimes, but is more expensive for me than MJ. If you talk to other people who have Skype then it is no charge. These things are great compared to how we used to have to go to an internet cafe.

I have three playlists on You Tube, but they keep knocking some of my songs off to to copywrite problems. This gets annoying when you try to set the mood for a long session.

On another note speaking of long sessions, on my next trip to MDE I plan on featuring many threesomes with true Lesbo action a must.

Yes I know a while back after my Sept. Trip I said I was done with MDE, but Nicaragua did not pan out like I wanted. If you have an interest in my reasons you can check out my latest posts on the Nicaragua board,

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1224278]You are wrong about Netflix, it is available in Colombia.

I don't bother with internet radio, I have about 1000 songs that the ladies like downloaded on my computer, I show them how to play them and let them choose what they want to listen to.

Magic Jack works fine in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Magic Jack works amazing. I only stay at apartments that have internet. I use Magic Jack to call the US. Internet radio the only one that I tried that had issues was pandora. I also have a long list of songs that I used.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1223538]I hate Spirit![/QUOTE]I can't stand spirit you think your getting a deal but, with all the charges it doesn't pay. And they don't care about their customers. I missed my connecting flight because of a mechanical problem. They total denied that they had a problem would not comp me a room and there was no fight going out till the next day. The only reason I dealt with spirit in the pass was because I received free tickets through there credit card. No more spirit.

Ok, Go tell a Travel Agent about your flight plans, lets get back to the women,

Where are they lately? It's getting boring here. Please post some those who are in Medellin now.

Thanks.

Happy Holidays

I heard that casas and strip clubs are closed on Holy Thursday and Good Friday. Is it true? Anyplace to go and find pros on these days? Are the girls in Mayorista working on these days? Easter Sunday in 2012 will be on April 8. So HT and GF will be on April 5 and 6? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1224747]Where are they lately? It's getting boring here. Please post some those who are in Medellin now.

Thanks.

Happy Holidays[/QUOTE]Went to Medellin, met a girl, blew a load, {want more details? }. Mayorista 25k, Centro casa 30k, Centro strip bar 70k, Energy Abydos ect. 100k Some do BBBJTC some don't, Thats all I got!

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1224773]I heard that casas and strip clubs are closed on Holy Thursday and Good Friday. Is it true? Anyplace to go and find pros on these days? Are the girls in Mayorista working on these days? Easter Sunday in 2012 will be on April 8. So HT and GF will be on April 5 and 6? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, dude, this is true, from Thursday to Sunday, the casas, bars and so forth are shut down.

You will need to arrange citas by phone. It will not be difficult unless you are a total spaz, which I am confident you are not from reading your stuff.

Just get some of your favorites to come by and see you. I was there on semana santa in 2009, I had a blast on Thursday and Friday little private parties at my apartment. I actually have quite a funny story along those lines (and accompanying photos) that I'd share by PM if anyone gives a shit.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1223662]Some guys like me go Carry-on only even if the checked bag is free, too much BS with checked baggage, I am usually always first one out of Airport, but I know what you are saying my bags are ready to pop out of their zippers. As far as that goes a fannie pack can pack alot of shit also and walk on the plane.[/QUOTE]Carryons are such a hassle going home from MDE. They hand check everything through first entry point. Then again before you board the plane.

Why are you paying for everything they offer? The whole point of Spirit's business model is that you can choose to pay for exactly what you want and not pay for what you don't want. However, Spirit's prices have taken a sharp rise lately. What was once $220 to MDE from NY is now. $550+! They are still cheapest but not by much. I think Copa is the best deal going now. I'd rather take Copa since it's <100 difference. Avianca has among the best miles system which is why I am trying to rack up points with them.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1223657]Hill I think this is more for guys traveling Spirit, or you know when you have that one or two bags that are over 50lbs and you have to take shit out and rearrange in order to not be charged the $50 overage? This would be perfect for situations like that. OR when I fly into MDE or BOG and stay there a few days then take a local flight to another city where the baggage limit is 35 or 40lbs, what do you do with that 15lbs that came in with your original bags?

AA, TACA, COPA, Avianca International still allow the 2 bags at 50lbs each.

This Jacket, along with your 2 carry-ons and you should be good.[/QUOTE]My large suitcase (full) , plus my carryon (full, w / laptop + pro camera gear) , weigh 36lbs together (3 weeks stuff in two containers is plenty). What the heck are you dragging around 100lbs of stuff for? Kitchen sink?

[QUOTE=Thor Real;1221472]And one guy's 5 could be another's 3. I try to be as objective as possible and rating has nothing to do with performance. I returned to New Life on Saturday and sampled Jessica who was much better in the sack than Nicole. I generally find less good looking chicas much betterr in bed than their better looking sisters. Nicole was so damn lazy. I saw more consistent 6'2 and 7's at Abydos and Energy. I will return to these establishments with pen and paper before I leave Medellin but before that, Leutrons.[/QUOTE]I was in Medellin a week ago so decided to sample New Life. It isn't the easiest to find. Although if I tell you it is an unmarked blue door that should help.

About 15 girls there when I arrived at around 5pm. I chose Jessica, who was the best of the lot. I'd rate her an 8. Dark hair, petite, with the most amazing fake tits showed off to perfection in a low cut black dress. She claimed they were 34DDs but I think they're bigger. BBBJ while I ate her ass then on with a condom and her on top of me. Unfortunately it was just too much for me and. New Life is great value. It was 38K for 30 minutes but she was so good I gave her 50K for the session. Will return if I ever go back to Medellin!

Sorry for being off topic but;

In the past I always took a direct flight from JFK to MDE on Avianca. It seems Avianca no longer flies directly from JFK to MDE. Actually it looks like none of the airlines offer a direct flight. I really liked Avianca but their prices have gone up quite a bit. Copa and Spirit offer the cheapest flights. I've heard a lot of bad things about Spirit so would rather not take a chance. Anybody have experience with Copa?

Also have a question about cellphones. I bought a cheap cellphone in Colombia that I use when I'm down there. Can I transfer the sim card from my colombian cellphone to my smartphone while I'm down there? Obviously it wouldn't be 4G, but would I be able to access the internet at a wifi hotspot? Do any cafes or restaurants offer free wifi?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1224839]Why are you paying for everything they offer? The whole point of Spirit's business model is that you can choose to pay for exactly what you want and not pay for what you don't want. However, Spirit's prices have taken a sharp rise lately. What was once $220 to MDE from NY is now. $550+! They are still cheapest but not by much. I think Copa is the best deal going now. I'd rather take Copa since it's <100 difference. Avianca has among the best miles system which is why I am trying to rack up points with them.[/QUOTE]Actually. Went on copa website, and from TO it looks like its about $1130 inc. Tax. However, using trip advisor, they look up different sites, and the lowest I saw was $917 inc. Tax for 2 stops. If you don't mind the inconvenience of 2 stops then this is the best bet. I'd probably use tripadvisor.

I respect all religions. But the thing that business is shut down for 4 days for religious ceremony seems to be insane.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1224832]Yes, dude, this is true, from Thursday to Sunday, the casas, bars and so forth are shut down.

You will need to arrange citas by phone. It will not be difficult unless you are a total spaz, which I am confident you are not from reading your stuff.

Just get some of your favorites to come by and see you. I was there on semana santa in 2009, I had a blast on Thursday and Friday little private parties at my apartment. I actually have quite a funny story along those lines (and accompanying photos) that I'd share by PM if anyone gives a shit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt2011; 1224982]I was in Medellin a week ago so decided to sample New Life. It isn't the easiest to find. Although if I tell you it is an unmarked blue door that should help.

About 15 girls there when I arrived at around 5pm. I chose Jessica, who was the best of the lot. I'd rate her an 8. Dark hair, petite, with the most amazing fake tits showed off to perfection in a low cut black dress. She claimed they were 34DDs but I think they're bigger. BBBJ while I ate her ass then on with a condom and her on top of me. Unfortunately it was just too much for me and. New Life is great value. It was 38K for 30 minutes but she was so good I gave her 50K for the session. Will return if I ever go back to Medellin![/QUOTE]Pretty sure I spent an awesome hour with Jessica during our Halloween blowout two months ago. New Life is good value and have been there 4 times in my two trips over the last 9 months. If it was the Jessica that speaks a little English, suppose to be leaving for Germany soon and had a little milk kicking in her breasts, its the same Jessica. Great attitude! I do have pixs of her ass / tits and will try to post behind this but its on Monger Blackberry phone. Maybe we can get a Monger App for iPhone and Droid folks?

Thanks for report, have not logged on to the ISG or MDE board for awhile. I can't. It brings up the withdrawls and smell of hot paisas fills the air! Off to Santo Domingo next month for long weekend. Could not pass up the $159 RT w / taxes on Spirit. Sale is over but the mongering lives on!

Be Safe,

The Navys Fault

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1225041]I respect all religions. But the thing that business is shut down for 4 days for religious ceremony seems to be insane.[/QUOTE]Matt, the Colombians (like much of Sur America) will vacation at the drop of a hat. So much for efficiency. It seems as if every Monday is practically a holiday. Maybe their lifestyle makes more sense than the typical first country one. Now, if you know a Paisa well enough to be invited into her world during this time, you might be in for a real treat.

[QUOTE=Rafzuh;1225027]Actually. Went on copa website, and from TO it looks like its about $1130 inc. Tax. However, using trip advisor, they look up different sites, and the lowest I saw was $917 inc. Tax for 2 stops. If you don't mind the inconvenience of 2 stops then this is the best bet. I'd probably use tripadvisor.[/QUOTE]Don't use Copa's site. The prices on their website are insane. Using Kayak I found JFK to MDE for 569 in February. One stop.

[QUOTE=The Assman; 1224994]Sorry for being off topic but;

In the past I always took a direct flight from JFK to MDE on Avianca. It seems Avianca no longer flies directly from JFK to MDE. Actually it looks like none of the airlines offer a direct flight. I really liked Avianca but their prices have gone up quite a bit. Copa and Spirit offer the cheapest flights. I've heard a lot of bad things about Spirit so would rather not take a chance. Anybody have experience with Copa?

Also have a question about cellphones. I bought a cheap cellphone in Colombia that I use when I'm down there. Can I transfer the sim card from my colombian cellphone to my smartphone while I'm down there? Obviously it wouldn't be 4G, but would I be able to access the internet at a wifi hotspot? Do any cafes or restaurants offer free wifi?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Yeah. It sucks balls that all the direct flights are gone. Spirit is fine. I've only had one delay in 3 trips. However, their prices have gone up. And when the price is < 100 than their next competitor. I'd prefer the competitor. Used Copa once. It's great. Comparable to Avianca.

Are you trying to put the Colombian SIM into your phone? If so, your phone needs to be unlocked. I wouldn't trust the reliability of free wifi. Just get a data plan.

It is like flying on United / Continental. They have an associate relationship with those airlines, since they are partly owned by them. I use them all the time and they always treat me well.

[QUOTE=The Assman; 1224994]Sorry for being off topic but;

In the past I always took a direct flight from JFK to MDE on Avianca. It seems Avianca no longer flies directly from JFK to MDE. Actually it looks like none of the airlines offer a direct flight. I really liked Avianca but their prices have gone up quite a bit. Copa and Spirit offer the cheapest flights. I've heard a lot of bad things about Spirit so would rather not take a chance. Anybody have experience with Copa?

Also have a question about cellphones. I bought a cheap cellphone in Colombia that I use when I'm down there. Can I transfer the sim card from my colombian cellphone to my smartphone while I'm down there? Obviously it wouldn't be 4G, but would I be able to access the internet at a wifi hotspot? Do any cafes or restaurants offer free wifi?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1224892]My large suitcase (full) , plus my carryon (full, w / laptop + pro camera gear) , weigh 36lbs together (3 weeks stuff in two containers is plenty). What the heck are you dragging around 100lbs of stuff for? Kitchen sink?[/QUOTE]I travel on 2 week trips. I bring a lot of shit, I like to dress up at night "Miami Style" so this consists of many shoes and sport coats my friend. Humble gifts for my novia (s) , a fan, depending on which apartment I get (I know the layouts) I even bring a portable blow up sofa. Its funny but I do. There is never enough lounge seating in these apartments. The girls love it and I love watching them bouncing up and down on it. So now you know where the 100lbs goes. lol

[QUOTE=The Assman; 1224994]Sorry for being off topic but;

In the past I always took a direct flight from JFK to MDE on Avianca. It seems Avianca no longer flies directly from JFK to MDE. Actually it looks like none of the airlines offer a direct flight. I really liked Avianca but their prices have gone up quite a bit. Copa and Spirit offer the cheapest flights. I've heard a lot of bad things about Spirit so would rather not take a chance. Anybody have experience with Copa?

Also have a question about cellphones. I bought a cheap cellphone in Colombia that I use when I'm down there. Can I transfer the sim card from my colombian cellphone to my smartphone while I'm down there? Obviously it wouldn't be 4G, but would I be able to access the internet at a wifi hotspot? Do any cafes or restaurants offer free wifi?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I've seen every high end cellphone here in the states, there in Colombia already my boy has a galaxy 2. Your cellphone must have open bands in other to accept the Colombian sim you can get that done in el centro for cheap but I wouldn't want them fucking around with mine. Be careful with gringos and smartphones. Any chicas would love to steal it and thugs would love to rob you.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1225225]I've seen every high end cellphone here in the states, there in Colombia already my boy has a galaxy 2. Your cellphone must have open bands in other to accept the Colombian sim you can get that done in el centro for cheap but I wouldn't want them fucking around with mine. Be careful with gringos and smartphones. Any chicas would love to steal it and thugs would love to rob you.[/QUOTE]Well said MHL. Seems like you and I are on the same page most of the time. Save your HORRIBLE taste in Basketball Teams! BOOO LEFraud James!

High end smart phones are the new Gold Chains for Ladrones and thieves. They Love to snatch them. An average smart phone in the states would be SUPER big bucks and SUPER big status for a Colombian to have and would love to steal them from you. Think about it; Do you REALLY need a smart phone in Colombia? Are you one of those Jerks who has their noses buried in their smart phones 24/7? Do you not have the common sense or skills to speak spanish and use a map vs Google Maps and a translator app? Are you so hooked and unable to get around and surive with out the all POWERFUL SMART PHONE? You'd be on vacation so no need to worry about work; other than that I can't think of 1 legitimate reason you'd need a smart phone Colombia for a week. Up plug and enjoy the trip; your old boring life will be there when you get back.

Angry Birds, Words With Friends, ect. Will still bet there when you get back. Do you know what will not be there when you get back home? A country FULL of young, sexy, pretty Latina Women & Girl! If you have you attention tied up on the update for your tranlator app you might miss the "dime piece" walking into your life. Do yourself a favor and go buy any cell phone; it'll get the trick done! Ring, store chicas numbers, basic text, no body want to steal it from you. Tragedy averted.

Remember boys; Skills are the true measure of a man not Money. Being Skilled in making money being one of the ultimate skills! Hahhahah

[QUOTE=The Assman; 1224994]Sorry for being off topic but;

In the past I always took a direct flight from JFK to MDE on Avianca. It seems Avianca no longer flies directly from JFK to MDE. Actually it looks like none of the airlines offer a direct flight. I really liked Avianca but their prices have gone up quite a bit. Copa and Spirit offer the cheapest flights. I've heard a lot of bad things about Spirit so would rather not take a chance. Anybody have experience with Copa?

Also have a question about cellphones. I bought a cheap cellphone in Colombia that I use when I'm down there. Can I transfer the sim card from my colombian cellphone to my smartphone while I'm down there? Obviously it wouldn't be 4G, but would I be able to access the internet at a wifi hotspot? Do any cafes or restaurants offer free wifi?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Yep no more direct flights from NYC to MDE. But there are a bunch that stop in Miami and FT L for around $500. Worse part of that is Miami customs. Have to go through and then check luggage etc in again. Is pain in the ass and means you have to have at least 90 minutes between flights.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1224773]I heard that casas and strip clubs are closed on Holy Thursday and Good Friday. Is it true? Anyplace to go and find pros on these days? Are the girls in Mayorista working on these days? Easter Sunday in 2012 will be on April 8. So HT and GF will be on April 5 and 6? Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is a perfect time to rent a Finka. Its not that expensive, it will run you about 50 USD a day. Get one with a nice size pool, get one of the locals to cook meals for like 20 USD a day. Have the fridge packed with beers and food. Invite 3 or four girls over and you will have a blast. All colombian women love going to finkas. If you haven't tried it this is the perfect time. You will have a blast.

Good post Slamcity. Just about enough to motivate me for the next trip. Still very hard living in the USA to break your old boring habits

[QUOTE=Escort King;1225247]Yep no more direct flights from NYC to MDE. But there are a bunch that stop in Miami and FT L for around $500. Worse part of that is Miami customs. Have to go through and then check luggage etc in again. Is pain in the ass and means you have to have at least 90 minutes between flights.[/QUOTE]I would never ever book a trip with a connecting flight in Miami without at least a three hour window. At any given time it can take forever to claim bags and get through customs. I arrived in Miami from Medellin a week ago today and I had a three hour layover, by the time I got to my gate they were already boarding, ridiculous. Most times 90 minutes will do it but once in a while you will miss your connection with that tight of a window.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1225238]Well said MHL. Seems like you and I are on the same page most of the time. Save your HORRIBLE taste in Basketball Teams! BOOO LEFraud James!

High end smart phones are the new Gold Chains for Ladrones and thieves. They Love to snatch them. An average smart phone in the states would be SUPER big bucks and SUPER big status for a Colombian to have and would love to steal them from you. Think about it; Do you REALLY need a smart phone in Colombia? Are you one of those Jerks who has their noses buried in their smart phones 24/7? Do you not have the common sense or skills to speak spanish and use a map vs Google Maps and a translator app? Are you so hooked and unable to get around and surive with out the all POWERFUL SMART PHONE? You'd be on vacation so no need to worry about work; other than that I can't think of 1 legitimate reason you'd need a smart phone Colombia for a week. Up plug and enjoy the trip; your old boring life will be there when you get back.

Angry Birds, Words With Friends, ect. Will still bet there when you get back. Do you know what will not be there when you get back home? A country FULL of young, sexy, pretty Latina Women & Girl! If you have you attention tied up on the update for your tranlator app you might miss the "dime piece" walking into your life. Do yourself a favor and go buy any cell phone; it'll get the trick done! Ring, store chicas numbers, basic text, no body want to steal it from you. Tragedy averted.

Remember boys; Skills are the true measure of a man not Money. Being Skilled in making money being one of the ultimate skills! Hahhahah[/QUOTE]Slamcity, Some of us need to stay connected to the internet / e-mail for business reasons. I can't be away from it for more than 10-12 hours whether I am on vacation or not, it's just the way some businesses operate.

[QUOTE=Newyorkino;1225282]This is a perfect time to rent a Finka. Its not that expensive, it will run you about 50 USD a day. Get one with a nice size pool, get one of the locals to cook meals for like 20 USD a day. Have the fridge packed with beers and food. Invite 3 or four girls over and you will have a blast. All colombian women love going to finkas. If you haven't tried it this is the perfect time. You will have a blast.[/QUOTE]


Can you post a link or send me a PM where you can rent a finca for $50 during Christmas Feria. My Colombian friends rent a dumpy finca in Copacabana for 200k a night and that was the cheapest.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1225334]Slamcity, Some of us need to stay connected to the internet / e-mail for business reasons. I can't be away from it for more than 10-12 hours whether I am on vacation or not, it's just the way some businesses operate.[/QUOTE]Mr. Manizales. I agree and I did address this in my original post about business being the only "legitimate" reason for NEEDING a smart phone. I still contend that you're (most people not you Mr. Manizales or anybody else specifically) better off keeping it simple for a number of reasons.

[QUOTE=The Navys Fault; 1225094]Pretty sure I spent an awesome hour with Jessica during our Halloween blowout two months ago. New Life is good value and have been there 4 times in my two trips over the last 9 months. If it was the Jessica that speaks a little English, suppose to be leaving for Germany soon and had a little milk kicking in her breasts, its the same Jessica. Great attitude! I do have pixs of her ass / tits and will try to post behind this but its on Monger Blackberry phone. Maybe we can get a Monger App for iPhone and Droid folks?

Thanks for report, have not logged on to the ISG or MDE board for awhile. I can't. It brings up the withdrawls and smell of hot paisas fills the air! Off to Santo Domingo next month for long weekend. Could not pass up the $159 RT w / taxes on Spirit. Sale is over but the mongering lives on!

Be Safe,

The Navys Fault[/QUOTE]Sounds like it could be her. Her English was pretty limited. She didn't mention Germany and her breasts were rock solid but she did have a great attitude. Would love to see the pics you have. She's the best I've been with!

Cheers,

Matt

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1225345]Can you post a link or send me a PM where you can rent a finca for $50 during Christmas Feria. My Colombian friends rent a dumpy finca in Copacabana for 200k a night and that was the cheapest.[/QUOTE]I friended "Fincas Amoblados" on FB a while back- for when the need should arise. And yeah, not cheap.

$50- no way!

[QUOTE=Lmarcone; 1225415]I friended "Fincas Amoblados" on FB a while back- for when the need should arise. And yeah, not cheap.

$50- no way![/QUOTE]Thanks for the lead Lmarcone. Do any of ya'll know of a company that does "smaller" finca rentals? Or like one that is a chopped up hotel where you can rent rooms and junk like that?