Jakarta

[QUOTE=Cucumber;1507796]On one of the nights I choose a girl in Hotel Travel, she asked whether I wanted her friend to join, for a total of 475 000 rupiah (USD 40, not bad eh). I was very in doubt, I have hardly ever enjoyed a threesome. But in the end I let her invite her friend over so I could have a look. Man was she gorgeous. I almost wanted to exchange the first girl for the second, but in the end I gave in to the threesome proposition. I tried to clear all details in advance, cunnilingus, kissing, be loving, but it was difficult without much language. And Indos always say yes-yes with a smile no matter what. It was a big mistake. The girls were ice cold. They talked continuously among themselves. They checked their mobile phones. Blowjob was only covered. They wanted me to fuck only one of them (I ultimately managed to get the other one too, but both were starfish). I tried to get one to sandwich me while I fucked her friend, but she couldn't / wouldn't really understand what I wanted. They used disinfectant napkins to disinfect my nipples before sucking them (!). I tried many times to say, both before cutting the deal and as things spiralled downwards in the room that I would tip if they treated me nice, not tip if not."Yes-yes." Then in the end I cut it off after about 30 minutes, put on my clothes and got out. They were very upset. They half tried to hold back the bracelet with my number, which you need to get out of the complex again. I know from other girls that they only get 80 rupiah out of the 325 (when you have one girl) , so they are totally dependent on the tip. I would not have insisted on the BBBJ since it does have a medical rationale, but the total disrespect, lack of even a little massage or anything kind of friendliness etc. Was unreasonable.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, that's a pretty good description of a standard experience at Hotel Travel. The girls are young and good looking, but they are indifferent once they get in the room. Of all the knock shops in town, I think that place almost without fail has the girls who provide the worst service in Jakarta. It's an indication that management there does not train the girls well. And it's not because of the "language barrier", I speak Indonesian and still find the service there to be crap. Between the bad service from the girls and the local Indonesian guys there singing karaoke poorly at a loud volume in the main room, I find Hotel Travel to be a place to be avoided.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1507806]In my opinion, that's a pretty good description of a standard experience at Hotel Travel.[/QUOTE]Just spent five hours in Hotel Classic, had four girls. It was better than last night in Hotel Travel. All girls were ok in bed, one gave great GFE and one was not so expert, but 18, a little shy and quite curious with a body that was so perfect it was surreal, in spite of tattoos (which are not my taste). All except one did BBBJ, all we happy or very happy about DATY. The mamasan's were not so pushy, some of them let me do a little interviewing. All the girls had listerine for mutual mouth rincing before action. Which I think is a good idea for someone with my (or their) turnover rate if you don't want to come down with the flu or something worse.

But if Travel sucks, what is the best knock shop in town then?

[quote=cucumber; 1507796]. i found the girls in hotel travel and hotel classic very beautiful. .

but that is as long as you don't require tall girls, which there not that many of. most have firm breasts, tight young bodies, pretty faces.

the rooms are clean and well kept, but have no windows. each has a shower cubicle with a glass wall. it is a delight to watch a sexy young thing through the glass as she soaps her self in, sticks a couple of fingers up her pussy for a thorough wash, perhaps squats and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133][CodeWord133][/url]. fine art as far as i am concerned.

a nice thing i enjoyed both in the hotel classic and travel and stadium is that you pass by small crews of cleaners and managers going about their work in the maze of corridors. all in uniforms, some fat or old, but some young, plain but attractive. sometimes they would flirt, say you have a nice nose or something (seems indos have a thing about white noses, nothing special about mine). i tried to hit on a couple of them. no success, but it did not seem impossible. and after all i was on my way to fuck a very beautiful 20-year old, so leeway was limited.

i used the services of jakartaafterdark. com. it was helpful to have him along, especially in hotel classic and and travel, which can be challenging to negotiate without bahasa.[/quote]i enjoyed your excellent, well-written report and wanted to comment on some of your points:

- yes, there are usually very few tall girls, as the average javanese girl appears to be 4' 10" to 5 feet tall. and while most have small to medium, sized breasts, their breasts are definitely nice and firm until they have a child.

- loved the image of watching the girl take a shower, brings back great memories.

- if you saw an attractive female cleaner / manager / employee in either place and wanted to hit on her, give her your cell phone number and its a guarantee that she'll call you later for a rendevous after her shift is over.

- glad to read that you used jad (jakarata after dark). money well spent for any visitor on a tight schedule.

Gents, thank you for informative posts on Jakarta. I hope people don't mind if I ask for insight on how best to manage a short time frame.

I am flying from Bangkok to Jakarta to Yogyakarta (for the temples) to Bali covering only four days / nights. I have found flights that work if this itinerary makes sense, so I welcome any and all input.

Fly late morning to Jakarta Day 1, spend two nights and 1 day in Jakarta.

Fly early morning to Yogyakarta, spend 1-1/2 days. 2 nights seeing temples.

Fly early morning to Bali.

(It may be a better idea to leave Yogyakarta on the last night, but getting a hotel in Bali on Friday of New Years week could be difficult)

I am concerned about traffic in Jakarta, especially getting to and from the airport. What would be the best area / place to stay for access to the fun and getting into and out of Jakarta? I was going to just book at Mercure Kota, but now I am wondering if it is better to stay in Sanur. (Kudos for the excellent Sanur map BTW.) Budget is (nice) 1 star to (inexpensive) 3 star.

If anyone has a suggestion for a girl friendly hotel in Yogyakarta and suggestions for finding ladies there, that would be helpful too.

[QUOTE=Cm6363; 1508156]Gents, thank you for informative posts on Jakarta. I hope people don't mind if I ask for insight on how best to manage a short time frame.

I am flying from Bangkok to Jakarta to Yogyakarta (for the temples) to Bali covering only four days / nights. I have found flights that work if this itinerary makes sense, so I welcome any and all input.

Fly late morning to Jakarta Day 1, spend two nights and 1 day in Jakarta.

Fly early morning to Yogyakarta, spend 1-1/2 days. 2 nights seeing temples.

Fly early morning to Bali.

(It may be a better idea to leave Yogyakarta on the last night, but getting a hotel in Bali on Friday of New Years week could be difficult)

I am concerned about traffic in Jakarta, especially getting to and from the airport. What would be the best area / place to stay for access to the fun and getting into and out of Jakarta? I was going to just book at Mercure Kota, but now I am wondering if it is better to stay in Sanur. (Kudos for the excellent Sanur map BTW.) Budget is (nice) 1 star to (inexpensive) 3 star.

If anyone has a suggestion for a girl friendly hotel in Yogyakarta and suggestions for finding ladies there, that would be helpful too.[/QUOTE]The schedule is fine. But Sanur is in Bali and not in Jakarta. Mercure Kota is in the heart of mongering district of North Jakarta.

Have fun,

Cheers

I know this information is probably buried deep in a thread somewhere, but not too recent as I've tried to check.

Can anyone give me the name and address of a shop in Jakarta (as opposed to an online supplier) that sells good quality dildos and vibrators? Especially interested in double dildos.

Many thanks, any advice appreciated.

[QUOTE=Kadoma; 1511330]I know this information is probably buried deep in a thread somewhere, but not too recent as I've tried to check.

Can anyone give me the name and address of a shop in Jakarta (as opposed to an online supplier) that sells good quality dildos and vibrators? Especially interested in double dildos.

Many thanks, any advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]Not sure what makes a quality dildo or vibrator, but I bought some last year in one of the many stalls that sell Viagra in Jln Hayam Wuruk opposite Stadium. It's not in plain view so you have to ask the guy and he'll bring them out.

[QUOTE=Kadoma; 1511330]I know this information is probably buried deep in a thread somewhere, but not too recent as I've tried to check.

Can anyone give me the name and address of a shop in Jakarta (as opposed to an online supplier) that sells good quality dildos and vibrators? Especially interested in double dildos.

Many thanks, any advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]Go to the 2nd floor of Mal Ambassador (on Jalan Prof. Dr. Satrio, in the Kuningan section of Jakarta, near the Marriott) and walk to the bridge where it connects to the adjacent mall known as ITC Kuningan. On your right hand side is a booth / stall that sells what you're looking for. You shouldn't have any problems finding the booth / stall, as one of the attractive young sales girls will probably approach you as you walk by and try to sell you Viagra.

Good luck! And Happy Holidays to all.

I stayed at Hotel Batik in Yogyakarta. I think I had paid 425 000 Rupiah for a double room / cottage. It was a nice hotel with swimming pool. You can get a free airport pick up. It's GF.

You can find many GF hotels along Jalan Sosrowijayan, which is perpendicular to Jalan Maliaboro.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;1508156]If anyone has a suggestion for a girl friendly hotel in Yogyakarta and suggestions for finding ladies there, that would be helpful too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1511472]Go to the 2nd floor of Mal Ambassador (on Jalan Prof. Dr. Satrio, in the Kuningan section of Jakarta, near the Marriott) and walk to the bridge where it connects to the adjacent mall known as ITC Kuningan. On your right hand side is a booth / stall that sells what you're looking for. You shouldn't have any problems finding the booth / stall, as one of the attractive young sales girls will probably approach you as you walk by and try to sell you Viagra.[/QUOTE]MS, I've bought stuff from that stall, but I didn't have such proactive sales staff. The first time I went, I wasn't sure I had the right place and there were no signs that they were selling anything other than general bric-a-brac. I just took the risk of looking slightly foolish and asked, no problem, but it wasn't THAT easy to find the right place.

So not only did they get rid of the wine cellar room girls at 350k, which was a bad idea, they've now upped the price for import chicks regardless of nationality at 2,000,000 a pop. To make matters worse, the quantity and quality of girls particularly from China has gone way down more than I have ever seen in the past 4 years. Looks like I won't be able to get the odd China doll anymore.

I haven't checked Alexis or Bunker yet, but my guess is they probably raised the price there too. Will have to check and report later.

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1512136]So not only did they get rid of the wine cellar room girls at 350k, which was a bad idea, they've now upped the price for import chics regardless of nationality at 2. 000. 000 a pop. To make matters worse, the quantity and quality of girls particularly from China has gone way down more than I have ever seen in the past 4 years. Looks like I won't be able to get the odd China doll anymore.

I haven't checked Alexis or Bunker yet, but my guess is they probably raised the price there too. Will have to check and report later.[/QUOTE]Which only asserts my question: why go to Indonesia to score an expensive Russian, Uzbek, Chinese or whatever girl when Indonesian girls are so pretty and so readily available?

Regards,

Ko

Back in Jakarta for a few weeks and already had sticker shock. Girls and there are few of quality are now quoting me 800K, some even 1M for short time.

Wow has the prices changed that much.

At first didn't feel up to haggling but eventually had to as the going rate seems to be fixed. Negotiated down to 400k for short time, she stayed the night and then asked for me to help her out with her rent, so in the end I paid 800k.

Hopefully this w / e the choices will be a bit more delicious.

Plan to try out Hotel Classic if I can ever find it, will report later on.

[QUOTE=Bkk212; 1512248]Back in Jakarta for a few weeks and already had sticker shock. Girls and there are few of quality are now quoting me 800K, some even 1M for short time.

Wow has the prices changed that much.

At first didn't feel up to haggling but eventually had to as the going rate seems to be fixed. Negotiated down to 400k for short time, she stayed the night and then asked for me to help her out with her rent, so in the end I paid 800k.[/QUOTE]Have any photos? I'm curious about quality.

[QUOTE=Bkk212; 1512248]Back in Jakarta for a few weeks and already had sticker shock. Girls and there are few of quality are now quoting me 800K, some even 1M for short time.

Wow has the prices changed that much.

At first didn't feel up to haggling but eventually had to as the going rate seems to be fixed. Negotiated down to 400k for short time, she stayed the night and then asked for me to help her out with her rent, so in the end I paid 800k.[/QUOTE]No need to negotiate up front, if they stay for short time give them 400 as they are leaving, if long time 800, some might pout and say "tambahin dong", just smile, ask them for their HP number (implying that you'd like to meet them again) and show them to the door.

Hotel Classic is in Pasar Baru, north of Harmoni but south of Mangga Besar, it is a big hotel complex within a shopping mall, it's well sign-posted and any Bluebird taxi will take you there. Basement is pricey and up market, second and fifth floor are basically warehouses. You should have no difficulty locating it and the services you require.

This is a soapy massage type place like in Thailand. It is easy to find with the directions provided in this forum. There are few places before it, and they tried to flag me down, but I continued.

Compared to the normal Indonesian girls in hotel Classic or Travel, girls here are on the larger side, I have to ask for a small (kecil) and the had one. I probably was the only customer around 8:00pm among 20 or so girls. Most were interested.

Massage and sex were excellent, and the only negatives were girls insisting on more tip and condom charge in the end.

Total Damage: 510k.

Girl.

100k (tip) +

10k (condom charge)

Mamasan

350k+

40k (Bintang) +

10k (tip)

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1512136]So not only did they get rid of the wine cellar room girls at 350k, which was a bad idea, they've now upped the price for import chics regardless of nationality at 2. 000. 000 a pop. To make matters worse, the quantity and quality of girls particularly from China has gone way down more than I have ever seen in the past 4 years. Looks like I won't be able to get the odd China doll anymore.

I haven't checked Alexis or Bunker yet, but my guess is they probably raised the price there too. Will have to check and report later.[/QUOTE]Went to Alexis 2 weeks ago. Price for all foreign ladies increased to 2. 35mil per pop. Even local ladies also increased to 1. 35mil. When asked why the increase, the reply from mamasan was due to drop in rupiah currency. Damn.

[QUOTE=Bkk212; 1512248]Back in Jakarta for a few weeks and already had sticker shock. Girls and there are few of quality are now quoting me 800K, some even 1M for short time.

Wow has the prices changed that much.[/QUOTE]In the ISG forum, I do not to get into discussions about payments or tips or anything about financial transactions between men and women, but for international travelers, I don't see the 'sticker shock'. The real cost of sex in Indonesia for visitors, or those paid in foreign exchange is actually a bargin. The rapid depreciation in the Indonesian rupiah (relative, for example, to the US dollar) is a real factor (positive) for tourists to keep in mind.

First, for the record, I agree that 800k IDR is too much to pay, based on the existing market. Second, again for the record, what you pay or tip is none of my business, and what I pay or tip is none of your business.

Having said all that, the 800k IDR that the girls may be looking to get is about US$65 currently, but was US$88 and change in December 2011. A more realistic 'ask' of 500k IDR is worth about US$41 today, as opposed to US$55 two years ago.

I travel back and forth to Thailand and that US$65 is about 2k THB, which is probably on the high end of the fee scale for short-term arrangements, but not an unusual asking price. (And, I think, often paid.) So, Indonesia is currently 'on sale' for tourists. The hundred dollar bill brings about 1. 2 million at the money exchange, not 880k as in the recent past.

Happy new year. Selamat tahun baru. TTG

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1512224]Which only asserts my question: why go to Indonesia to score an expensive Russian, Uzbek, Chinese or whatever girl when Indonesian girls are so pretty and so readily available?

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]As someone who lives here and not on holiday, an import girl once or twice a month doesn't hurt when one has local nearly everyday.

If it was true that you can pull "quality" girls for 400k short time and 800k long time, then I'd agree. But I don't see that in Jakarta these days. I would compare the quality of the blok m girls to the Beirgarten girls in Bangkok or the girls in front of Nana plaza. The gogo girls are more comparable to the girls you find in CJs. The prices in Thailand are cheaper than in Jakarta. Beirgarten and Nana girls go for 1000 baht short time and 1500 baht long time. It's the gogo girls who are getting 2000 baht short time and 3000 to even 4000 baht long time. A girl from CJs wants over 1 million rupiah even for a short time. The last time I was in CJs, I couldn't get a top quality girl to agree to go home for all night for less than 2 million rupiah. And even then, they were wanting to go home at 6am. It seems they are factoring the devaluation of the rupiah into their price because that is about 165 USD for the night (about 5000 thai baht).

[QUOTE=Hola Mundo; 1512305]This is a soapy massage type place like in Thailand. It is easy to find with the directions provided in this forum. There are few places before it, and they tried to flag me down, but I continued.

Compared to the normal Indonesian girls in hotel Classic or Travel, girls here are on the larger side, I have to ask for a small (kecil) and the had one. I probably was the only customer around 8:00pm among 20 or so girls. Most were interested.

Massage and sex were excellent, and the only negatives were girls insisting on more tip and condom charge in the end.

Total Damage: 510k.

Girl.

100k (tip) +

10k (condom charge)

Mamasan

350k+

40k (Bintang) +

10k (tip) [/QUOTE]Glad you made it to Kartika and had a good time there.

I don't recall being asked for a condom charge but that may be new.

I'm not surprised that the girl asked for a bigger tip, sometimes that would happen to me but it was always done good-naturedly. 100K is all you need to give as a tip. I've never had any problems as a result of saying no, so don't be afraid to leave 100, 000 rupiah and no more. Remember, most local guys would leave less than that as a tip.

Keep in mind that the girl doesn't get to keep most of the house fee (I believe they get to keep 80K or 100K) so they will always want to get a good tip. Plus, many of the girls here may only have one or two customers a day, depending on business. Since you were there around 8 pm and your session lasted an hour, there's a good possibility that you would have been the last customer of the night (unless she has an outcall appointment afterwards) , so she was motivated to ask for a little extra.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1512524]I don't recall being asked for a condom charge but that may be new.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about Kartika, but I've noticed most places don't have a condom charge anymore. In the past, if I wanted a condom, they charged 10, 000 extra for that. I'm guessing because it was rare for anyone to want to wear a condom in those places. Nowadays, the norm is for the girl to come to the room with a condom of her own provided by the place. Then again, if you ask her not to use it, she normally will still bareback, but at least there isn't a condom fee for those who do want to use it.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1511472]Go to the 2nd floor of Mal Ambassador (on Jalan Prof. Dr. Satrio, in the Kuningan section of Jakarta, near the Marriott) and walk to the bridge where it connects to the adjacent mall known as ITC Kuningan. On your right hand side is a booth / stall that sells what you're looking for. You shouldn't have any problems finding the booth / stall, as one of the attractive young sales girls will probably approach you as you walk by and try to sell you Viagra.

Good luck! And Happy Holidays to all.[/QUOTE]Thanks to all those that replied. I've been in the Sumatran jungle for a while so no Internet.

Will give those places a try when I'm next in Jakarta in mid January.

I'm also not sure what comprises a 'quality' toy, and don't intend to be inserting them in myself to find out! That judgement I'll leave to the girls who are keen for me to find one. They've certainly done it all before so should be good judges!

Cheers,

Kadoma

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1512287]No need to negotiate up front, if they stay for short time give them 400 as they are leaving, if long time 800, some might pout and say "tambahin dong", just smile, ask them for their HP number (implying that you'd like to meet them again) and show them to the door.

Hotel Classic is in Pasar Baru, north of Harmoni but south of Mangga Besar, it is a big hotel complex within a shopping mall, it's well sign-posted and any Bluebird taxi will take you there. Basement is pricey and up market, second and fifth floor are basically warehouses. You should have no difficulty locating it and the services you require.[/QUOTE]Your advice worked fine, this is my new modus operandi from now on. Saves a lot of unnecessary talking in My Bar. Seems as though they expect that amount because they think I know the ropes. The first night I guessed I looked like a rookie in the bar, thanks dude. Will try Classic in the New Year, thanks for the directions.

I don't have any pictures but the choices are very slim, I will rarely approach the sexy girls but the average ones are quite below average.

Bought some V in Blok M, there is a 24hr pharmacy that sells them. I tried to find those other places listed in the forum, Ie. Lokarisi Plaza, outside Stadium but couldn't find these places. So tried exploring on my own and found this location.

Photos please. Price is meaningless unless we see quality.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1513774]Photos please. Price is meaningless unless we see quality.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree photos are helpful, however I don't have a camera nor a cell phone with a camera. And yes many have tried to convince me to get an upgrade.

But my argument is need / wants etc. Etc.

I am just not the photo type of person. If I can get the girls to take pics I will upload to the forum.

Happy New year 2014 to all the forum members

No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1513863]No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."[/QUOTE]Of course the man can afford a camera; he chooses not to. I have zero desire to ever take a picture while mongering. It is not about trophy hunting for others, its about enjoying each and every moment to the fullest. If for you that includes pictures, great. But for many of us, it just detracts from the experience. Don't assume your way of mongering is THE way.

[QUOTE=Psychman;1514273]Of course the man can afford a camera; he chooses not to. I have zero desire to ever take a picture while mongering. It is not about trophy hunting for others, its about enjoying each and every moment to the fullest. If for you that includes pictures, great. But for many of us, it just detracts from the experience. Don't assume your way of mongering is THE way.[/QUOTE]Don't you take pictures on vacation etc, to enjoy afterwards?

There are three main reasons I like to take photos of my girls. The first reason I like to take photos of the girls is in order to preserve the memories. I shag 30 plus women per trip. There is no other way to remember the girls accurately. The memory fades if I just leave it in my head. The second reason I photograph the girls is for quality control. The camera does not lie. When I take a look at the photos of girls starting 6 months after a trip I get an accurate reading of how well I scored. I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing. The third reason I like to take photos is that it is a lot of fun. Some girls really love to pose for the camera. It can really jump start a session. In certain bars I know, the girls go wild as soon as I take out my Canon pocket camera. They all want to get in on the fun. On the other hand, I will put the camera away if a girl is uncomfortable with it.

So do your own thing, but I highly recommend giving it a try. It is all about having a good time and preserving the memories.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1514481]I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing.[/QUOTE]I find that my standards drop or raise based on the quality of the girls wherever I may be. In a bar with all ugly girls, the best looking of the uglies will likely be my date for the evening if I'm lucky. Haha. I think Blok M is a good example of that. I don't think there is much quality on Blok M these days. It's still good fun though.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1514501]I find that my standards drop or raise based on the quality of the girls wherever I may be. In a bar with all ugly girls, the best looking of the uglies will likely be my date for the evening if I'm lucky. Haha. I think Blok M is a good example of that. I don't think there is much quality on Blok M these days. It's still good fun though.[/QUOTE]That was my experience at MBC, the OT, and Soi Six. You know; you walk into a joint, sit down, have a beer, get acclimated and pretty soon your viewpoint starts to get anchored to the standards of the bar. This behavioral phenomenon usually has its strongest effect on me the first night of a trip or the first night in a new town. I will be visiting Jakarta for the first time in less than 60 days. The Blok M bars are definitely on my must do list, but I will not be starting out there. I plan on hitting the higher end brothel places first and get my tastes anchored at these establishments before I venture further a field. I have been with some very pretty Indonesian girls in Batam, Singapore, Macau, HKG, and even Amsterdam of all places. I expect to hit the mother lode in Jakarta! I sure hope there will be some pretty girls in Blok M by the time I visit. Your Hany looks good. But if I don't see any attractive Blok M girls, I will barhop a little and then just move on. I am really looking forward to Jakarta. I think it is going to be great.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1513863]No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."[/QUOTE]Ok about the camera thanks for the loan, but I am just not a picture person. I saw someone wrote that he takes pics for memories, well I don't really want memories of these 'below average ' girls. If I find a gem I will try my best to get a photo.

About your friend I didn't seen her in My Bar on 31st I know as I scouted all 17 girls that were there, the 2 cute ones got taken very early. But I did go to Top gun on 1st and there she was standing in the doorway, she propositioned my friend but he wasn't interested. So she is still around.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1514546]I don't really want memories of these 'below average ' girls. If I find a gem I will try my best to get a photo.[/QUOTE]If a girl is "below average," why do her?

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1514546]Ok about the camera thanks for the loan, but I am just not a picture person.[/QUOTE]No worries.

As far as taking below average chicks, I think that goes back to the fact that there really aren't that many lookers on the Blok. So you end up taking the best of what's available. As long as you enjoy yourself, it's all good. I'm just saying that whatever money you give these girls isn't a set rate. It's not a given that any girl on the Blok is 400k for a short time. It depends on the popularity of the girl and the amount of competition that night. That Hany girl is nothing special, but she's young and firm and has nice breasts. Unfortunately, she's one of the better girls on the Blok these days from what I see. After a few beers, many of the uglier girls turn into gems anyway.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1514481]There are three main reasons I like to take photos of my girls. The first reason I like to take photos of the girls is in order to preserve the memories. I shag 30 plus women per trip. There is no other way to remember the girls accurately. The memory fades if I just leave it in my head. The second reason I photograph the girls is for quality control. The camera does not lie. When I take a look at the photos of girls starting 6 months after a trip I get an accurate reading of how well I scored. I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing. The third reason I like to take photos is that it is a lot of fun. Some girls really love to pose for the camera. It can really jump start a session. In certain bars I know, the girls go wild as soon as I take out my Canon pocket camera. They all want to get in on the fun. On the other hand, I will put the camera away if a girl is uncomfortable with it.

So do your own thing, but I highly recommend giving it a try. It is all about having a good time and preserving the memories.[/QUOTE]To Natty Bumpo.

I do mongering all over the World most girl will allow me to take Picture except for China and S Korea most PRC are very shy about having their picture taking, I pick a girl at Millie disco few month ago she love having picture even allow video on my smart phone she love to show off her hot body.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1514569]No worries.

As far as taking below average chicks, I think that goes back to the fact that there really aren't that many lookers on the Blok. So you end up taking the best of what's available. As long as you enjoy yourself, it's all good. I'm just saying that whatever money you give these girls isn't a set rate. It's not a given that any girl on the Blok is 400k for a short time. It depends on the popularity of the girl and the amount of competition that night. That Hany girl is nothing special, but she's young and firm and has nice breasts. Unfortunately, she's one of the better girls on the Blok these days from what I see. After a few beers, many of the uglier girls turn into gems anyway.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha how true after a while everyone looks good. How about this for a turnaround in My Bar. Went there last night 2nd and it had a lot of girls, at one point (1:00am) there were 16

Girls and one guy (me). Quite a few different ones at that also. So it just shows it always is a hit and miss situation (at least in MB anyway). Not sure about other places. And now that I have been seen around the quotes I am receiving (without asking or haggling) is now 400k, I do understand that it's not a set rate but if they think you don't know the setup or figure you are new prices are different.

Okay for the new guys in town (not the regulars) be careful in Top Gun when you order drinks (this has happened to me twice before, years ago). You order a drink and all of a sudden there are a whole lot of other unordered drinks next to you. I questioned the bartender and he said that I ordered them (me, myself) , which I didn't. Now I am not a regular in TP so no one knows me, this is also a frequent occurrence in Patpong, Bangkok (BKK, my I'd).

Maybe I was just unlucky and they thought that I was a sucker just bring drinks and I would pay for it. Just be careful in some of these bars if you are a new face in the crowd. Hence the reason I always go to MB, girls or no girls I fancy the dance music and never had been cheated on my bill, although I exclusively use only one waitress.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1514552]If a girl is "below average," why do her?[/QUOTE]Well she might have extra large tits on a small frame and gives an exceptional blowjob.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1514552]If a girl is "below average," why do her?[/QUOTE]Looking back I can truthfully say that I have been f*cked better by "below average" women than by the ones that know they are HOT. I agree with Smoothy in that when you enter an environment with many women, that we normally focus our attention on the best we see. We each have different taste and one that might not please you, I might love.

It all comes down to "What ever turns you on".

Aloha.

RL

[QUOTE=Robert Long;1515200]Looking back I can truthfully say that I have been f*cked better by "below average" women than by the ones that know they are HOT.[/QUOTE]Me too. I spend a lot of time looking for good-looking women, and I'm especially picky about bodies. But once in a while I've taken women who wouldn't usually meet my standards, just because something about them promised a good time. And almost always they've delivered, including some of the most memorable shags of my life. I don't make a habit of it, but when it comes along and feels right, why not?

Living in Thailand I meet plenty of pretty girls but when I want my big tits and ass fix, I come to Indonesia. Returning to Jakarta for the 2nd time after 7 months, as the rupiah is at a 5 year low. First time I was here, all I did was hit Terminal Classic located in cheaper North Jakarta and mostly frequented by locals. This place never fails me and have no desire to hit up other spots in the city including the iconic Blok B, which seems to be full of older girls and foreigners. Not be my scene. Yes you have to wrap it up at Terminal but this is one country I don't play around. Having also barebacked in Medan and Bali this last year, I am at 40% getting funky shit on my dick the following day in this country, compared to 1% in Thailand.

After touchdown, I go straight to Terminal and no time to connect with the online dates I had lined up. The 3rd floor opens at 2:30 pm with prices of 315, 000 rupiah for 1 girl for 60 minutes and 460,000 rupiah for 2 girls for 90 minutes. Now it is very tempting to go with another girl for slightly more and an extra 30 minutes but you are better off going with one girl for better service. The threesomes are generally lame as fuck and they will rush you. I arrive at 3:30 pm and disappointed with the slim pickings as the girls start packing in 4:00 pm. Turned down 4 girls mamasan brought me and then see one I like as she returns with her customer. Pretty grimy but I choose her right away with no shame and it turns out to be a fun session. I wind up tongue kissing and giving her a facial which can be difficult here.

The next day I'm still in Pasar Baru in a hotel down the street from Terminal. My online dates are becoming more trouble then they are worth and return to Terminal for a threesome. I picked 2 young girls and the service was abysmal. They were playing games with the wrong guy as I was in no mood for that shit. I had a temper tantrum and slammed the wall scaring the one girl out the room. The other girl was cool and laughed it off but succumbed to the pressure of giving shitty service in threesomes which they love to do. So not speaking any Indonesia, I made a big stink of it Pictionary style to 3 of the employees. I showed them my empty condoms, imitated the girls giving me 2 pumps and giggling and was just pissed. They were cool and sent me up 2 more girls. Below average of the bunch but I was happy with the solution. Got to fuck 4 girls for $38 but still left aggravated.

The next 2 nights I relocated to more expensive South Jakarta near Plaza Semanggi. Besides good shopping, this is where many of the girls on the dating sites can access easily, which was helpful in me meeting girls that way. It was becoming too hard to get them to come up to North Jakarta. If you are going to play around with online dating here, I suggest first trying to get a girl to meet you without mentioning money. If she will not meet you, mention money and will be surprised how many will meet you thereafter, as there is a high percentage p4p girls on the sites here.

Had some good dates along with bad but find the mongering and online dating to be very limited in quality here. If you have it in you, I think this is a great country to approach women the traditional way as there are some great looking women walking around and Indonesian girls seem to be very friendly and approachable. Many women who would love to be with a foreigner but with the cultural pressure have not explored it. If you want to turn it into P4P could help or hurt depending on the girl.

Sometimes in the game of keeping the chain of fucking friends of friends unbroken,"below average looking" girls / women crossed my path. My good buddy JAD, calls it a charity fuck when I dedicate myself to the duty. That way I encountered a squirter and the loudest screamer. It means, they gave their utmost, unlike most of the "more than the average looking" ones.

[QUOTE=Bkk212; 1514803]Ha Ha how true after a while everyone looks good. How about this for a turnaround in My Bar. Went there last night 2nd and it had a lot of girls, at one point (1:00am) there were 16

Girls and one guy (me). Quite a few different ones at that also. So it just shows it always is a hit and miss situation (at least in MB anyway). Not sure about other places. And now that I have been seen around the quotes I am receiving (without asking or haggling) is now 400k, I do understand that it's not a set rate but if they think you don't know the setup or figure you are new prices are different.

Okay for the new guys in town (not the regulars) be careful in Top Gun when you order drinks (this has happened to me twice before, years ago). You order a drink and all of a sudden there are a whole lot of other unordered drinks next to you. I questioned the bartender and he said that I ordered them (me, myself) , which I didn't. Now I am not a regular in TP so no one knows me, this is also a frequent occurrence in Patpong, Bangkok (BKK, my I'd).

Maybe I was just unlucky and they thought that I was a sucker just bring drinks and I would pay for it. Just be careful in some of these bars if you are a new face in the crowd. Hence the reason I always go to MB, girls or no girls I fancy the dance music and never had been cheated on my bill, although I exclusively use only one waitress.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is a common scam. I usually ask for a price and pay upfront when ordering. Looks strange a wee bbit, but effective.

[QUOTE=NeverJerkOff;1515429]I am at 40% getting funky shit on my dick the following day in this country, compared to 1% in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Wow 40 percent, dude you must be hitting on some serious yeast factories!

I've lived here 10 years and gone bareback, well I have no idea but it would be well into triple figures. I can't say I never got a dose because there was one time a few years ago when I had a bit of a dull throbbing down there but as it went away without treatment after 24 hours I don't know what it was but to the best of my knowledge I haven't caught anything more than a bit of a cold off a cewek here.

Now I'm not an idiot, I don't plunge my dick into any passing piece of skan& and I have had check ups and am inoculated against Hep B (a doctor here warned me about that very early in my career, and I recommend everyone get it done) , maybe I'm just lucky or maybe I am headed for a serious fall, but I am truly shocked at your hit rate. Almost half of every bareback you've had in Indonesia has led to the nasties? That really is bad luck on a monumental scale, are you naturally prone to illness in everyday life?

Big fan of the charity fuck. I kind of see it as my civil duty.

Give me an average looker who performs stunningly, to a stunner who performs averagely anyday.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1515434]Sometimes in the game of keeping the chain of fucking friends of friends unbroken,"below average looking" girls / women crossed my path. My good buddy JAD, calls it a charity fuck when I dedicate myself to the duty. That way I encountered a squirter and the loudest screamer. It means, they gave their utmost, unlike most of the "more than the average looking" ones.[/QUOTE]

I so agree.

Even when I've had work vendors pay. With a free tab at Alexis or Malio, and any girls I can choose, I always go for the indo girls. Their service is just so much better, and Indo's seem to genuinely enjoy a good fuck.

Worse on my list without doubt is the Chinese for service.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1512224]Which only asserts my question: why go to Indonesia to score an expensive Russian, Uzbek, Chinese or whatever girl when Indonesian girls are so pretty and so readily available?

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HardHatMat;1516389]Give me an average looker who performs stunningly, to a stunner who performs averagely anyday.[/QUOTE]Never a truer word written!

Gents,

I'm a long time lurker here and shamefully have only ever posted one report (Shanghai) but hope to start making amends. I was in Jakarta a few weeks ago for a couple of nights and decided to take the easy way by going to TG based on other posts. Sorry if this is boring for Jakarta old hands!

First night was a Tuesday but it was still packed when I turned up after 11pm. Late flight. I hate the arm pulling shit so I went to the back of the bar by the pool table to get a beer and a smoke and chatted to the bar staff for a bit, but after a couple of looseners I headed to the main bar. Couple of expat guys there and a spare seat so I plonked myself on it, chatted, and surveyed the scene. Lots of girls, maybe 10% of them very cute. I'm a bit picky.

Then a smoking hot girl walks up and asks me for a light. Pure sex in her eyes, but no "what's your name","where are you from", just "got to light, thanks" and a big smile. That got me twitching. 20 mins later she sidles up, tells me her name and asks me if I want to dance. I say I'm a terrible dancer and need far more to drink before venturing onto the floor. Which leads to sharing a bottle of Uncle Jack and over an hour of conversation. I hear about her family and her kids, how she's in her late 30s (I'd have put her 10 years younger. And remember, I'm picky!) and I'm thinking this is not the usual WG modus operandi.

Long story short we end up kissing at the bar and she gets me dancing. As the bar is closing I made the move and asked her back to my hotel and she said yes. No mention of money.

Back there we had awesome GFE sex, I mean really awesome. Amazingly more oral than FS as we both seemed to know exactly what to do. Much mutual pleasure!

We woke at 11am and had more sex then breakfast after which she said it was time for her to go and could I give her the taxi fare, at which point, having RTFF, I knew (if I didn't before) that this was the soft touch WG style. I gave her 1m rupiah and she seemed more than happy. So was I. 80 bucks for an all night GFE.

Next night I was there early. I didn't care if I scored as I was kinda jetlagged. I just wanted to hang out and play pool, which I did for a while and was about to leave when a tiny, beautiful thing walked in and came straight up. Usual "what's your name" crap but she was so cute I couldn't say no. I told her I was just leaving and she asked if she could come with me. I said sure and she came straight back with 2m rupiah. Um, no thanks. So I said come back to my hotel for 1 hour and I'll give you 500k, which she agreed to straight away.

Back in the room she showered and slid into bed. Oh God what a beautiful little body and cute face. And she was a v sweet girl. Said she was from Java and 23 yo. The sex was ok and she got quite wet after a some DATY, but she wasn't the GFE from last night. But oh boy what a sight on her knees taking it doggy. She left soon after, pleasant enough and I gave her a tip.

So, like I said, sorry if this is all a bit old hat for some but I thought it was worth posting as such a positive experience. I guess it's why guys head to TG.

Cheers and happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Kadoma;1481402]Sounds like you must've struck Raney out of TG. Sit her there cowgirl and she will ride all night or as long as you can take it, orgasming countless times, the archetypical 'happy hooker'. A real bonus is she's always fun and never greedy. Never met anyone like her in 30 years! As she leaves, always asking with a smile 'you sure you don't want one more. ? ' Our kind of gal.[/QUOTE]I had the pleasure of meeting Rani (she says that is how you spell her name). Incredible.

I love eating bald pussy and she just [U]Loves[/U] Being eaten. Multi-orgasmic and still very tight despite having a child, so she absolutely wanted to follow up with a good shag.

Unfortunately she could not stay the night because she had to take care of her child.

She promised to return soon for a couple of repeats.

Regards,

Ko

I could not resist and went to D's a few times (yes, weak knees, etc.).

Started chatting up one of the barmaids (Riry, she's the lively one) and had a pleasant time. She even hinted that she might come to my room to add to her salary (850, 000 a month, often paid late). I was soon picked up by one of the young dancers and taken to the VIP room. Had a pleasant BBBJ and shag and paid 6000, 000.

Yesterday evening suddenly the MILF with an Attitude (you know who I mean) was grinding her butt in my lap. When I asked her if her tits were real she put my hands in her bra and let me inspect them. Yup, real. Then she asked me "do you want to fuck me?" Personally I had never seen her go into the VIP room and she had gotten me horny, so I agreed (did not talk about money, yes stupid).

In the VIP room she quickly got naked, unbuttoned my pants and shirt and started DFK and licking my nipples. I did some inspecting of her pussy which went wet pretty quickly. Then she started an excellent BBBJ with lots of tongue, during which she kept looking me in the eye. After a while I put her on a barstool and slowly slid into her. Took a bit of effort because she is pretty tight. Eventually I was in completely and had a good shag before coming inside her. Excellent service. The shocker came when she asked for 900, 000. She had given excellent service and had made me come very nicely so I didn't even haggle.

Later in the bar she came back to snuggle up to me and I asked her name. She said it is Mellisa.

Regards,

Ko

A while back, I had the pleasure of being in Jakarta for the weekend and stayed at the Marriott Exec Apartments. IMHO a great place to spend a weekend and very impressive when you bring the girls back to the place.

On a Friday evening went to BATS at the Shangri La and paid the usual entrance fee and was amazed already at the great meat standing in line.

Anyway, after enjoying a couple of drinks made the rounds and spotted a beautiful Kim Kardashian look a like (body style) and but more Indian looking in the facial features than local Indonesia. In any case I would classify as a 7/10 or 8/10. Depends on your scale.

We hooked up at the bar and she was amazingly friendly and we have some drinks and got drunk as we dance the night away. BEST GFE ever.

Made it back to the Exec. aparment at the Marriott and starting to do incredible GFE sex with BBBJ and CIM. What was amazing that she was a Squirter! At first I was not sure how to react when we were doing 69, but wow did it turn me on. She squirted intensely onto the bed and I swear onto the walls of the room. At one point she was screaming so loud that I had a concern a neighbor would call someone, but it seems the walls were very well insulated. It was great to know her moans and screaming were not fabricated due to her intense squirting.

She spent the night as is customary in Indonesia and I woke up to a BBBJ with CIM.

Needless to say, one of my best mongering experiences ever and thus I chose this to be my first real report that I have posted after years of being and avid ISG reader.

I had not agreed to a price before hand so when it was time for payment I gave her 500K IDR. She was not that happy, but made a joke " You fuck like a young guy and pay like a young guy".

The next evening we agreed to go to a nightclub together (Dragon fly?) but she canceled as she was extremely hungover from our previous adventurous night. The SMS she sent was " Thanks for the great sex last night". Another feather in my cap.

In my future trips to Jakarta I tried to hookup with her, but she was never in Jakarta as she lived outside in another village. Maybe I should have paid more and should would have been willing to meet up again, but I think it is best in memory as it was that evening, squirting and all.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1517429]I could not resist and went to D's a few times (yes, weak knees, etc.).

<SNIP

Later in the bar she came back to snuggle up to me and I asked her name. She said it is Mellisa.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Last evening I went to D's just for a few drinks and was immediately tackled by Mellisa (see previous post) who did a good job of getting me horny in between her dancing stints. She invited me to the VIP room again but I politely declined which was accepted in good humour and did not result in less butt-grinding. She re-introduced me to her colleague Titi who I already had a few times in the VIP room and who is just as good at butt-grinding and offering various body parts for physical inspection.

Ended up inviting Mellisa to my room for this afternoon and Titi for Monday afternoon. We'll see how this turns out. I made a few pictures of the dancing crew but I need to resize them before posting and it's 3 o'clock now. Later.

Regards,

Ko

Hello there!

Can you tell me what's the rates in CJ at that moment, to have a fun with a girl for all night.

Going to stop in Hotel Mulia for a week.

[QUOTE=Solenoid; 1517971]I had not agreed to a price before hand so when it was time for payment I gave her 500K IDR. She was not that happy, but made a joke " You fuck like a young guy and pay like a young guy".

The next evening we agreed to go to a nightclub together (Dragon fly?) but she canceled as she was extremely hungover from our previous adventurous night.

Maybe I should have paid more and she would have been willing to meet up again.[/QUOTE]Can't blame her!

Forgot to mention my experience at TG at the Block M from my previous post. While this place is a very run down bar, it seem everyone here has a great fun even the shady looking hookers who hide in the shadows. Overall during my time in Jakarta, I took home several times two girls at once and enjoyed great service each time paying around 700K for the night with 2 girls. The main difference I should say between TG and BATS is the quality of the girls. In TG I would rate them more 3/10 to maybe 6/10, where at BATS the average is around 6/10 to 7/10 with the potential on finding a stunner and having a "magical" night as I reported in my earlier report. I terms of service surely it depends on the girl but always have had great GFE with alot of BBBJ and CIM.

Also getting in and out of Block M is not that easy even for a seasoned taxi driver who sometimes seems to take extra time to find the place. I have not been there in a while as my last trip to Jakarta is some time ago, but if you are on a budget for the night then it is certainly worth the time for some fun.

So Ken paid almost double the going rate for his super-sexy girl and when he comes back the next night she's on to him like glue, as are her friends who no doubt have got the word about Ken's generous nature. He will find that to be the case from now on until he has to face the pouting petulance when he politely but firmly informs her that there are actually other girls in the bar whose wares he would like to sample. Ken's an old hand and I'm sure this will cause him little inconvenience.

Solenoid on the other hand paid almost half the going rate for his super-sexy girl and by a remarkable coincidence discovered that she was no longer available when he tried to contact her again. He's not bothered, it was a memorable experience and there's plenty of other fish in the sea.

Lesson to be learned? None actually, I'm a firm believer in the free market and make no judgement on how my fellow man chooses to spend his hard-earned money.

I do note in passing however that this game runs a lot more smoothly when you just pay the going rate.

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1518437]I do note in passing however that this game runs a lot more smoothly when you just pay the going rate.[/QUOTE]Great post! I have been on both sides of the fence as you mention, and I agree fully with your last statement.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1511472]Go to the 2nd floor of Mal Ambassador (on Jalan Prof. Dr. Satrio, in the Kuningan section of Jakarta, near the Marriott) and walk to the bridge where it connects to the adjacent mall known as ITC Kuningan. On your right hand side is a booth / stall that sells what you're looking for. You shouldn't have any problems finding the booth / stall, as one of the attractive young sales girls will probably approach you as you walk by and try to sell you Viagra.

Good luck! And Happy Holidays to all.[/QUOTE]Just half an hour ago I went to the booth. It's actually on the ITC Kuningan side of Jembatan 1, 2nd floor as you said. Mainly sells junky magic stuff that kids would like, masks, dopey toys, tricks etc.

Stood there wondering for all of 10 seconds when one of the girls shone a laser pen at me and asked if I wanted to buy it. I said 'no, tapi ada apa lagi? ' quick as a flash she said 'Oh. Kamu mau sex toy? ' Obviously done it all before.

I was then invited to sit in very close proximity to this rather sexy lady as she presented a variety of products, only one of which was really worth buying. No double dongs available, but truckloads of Viagra and Cialis on internal display.

It certainly looks dauntingly efficient, with enough moving parts to entertain a kid for hours, and it does things that neither your nor my appendages could ever achieve, it would be painful to even contemplate, let alone attempt. Unfortunately, she didn't demonstrate it in the way that I would've preferred but you can't have everything.

Rp 450,000 lighter, I proudly returned to my hotel with its personal X-ray entry, eliciting quite a knowing smirk from the lady on duty. Shades of trying to buy condoms at age 16.

Many thanks for the tip, she will be trying out her birthday present tomorrow night.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1518437]<SNIP> He will find that to be the case from now on until he has to face the pouting petulance when he politely but firmly informs her that there are actually other girls in the bar whose wares he would like to sample. <SNIP>[/QUOTE]The girls are a lot more professional than Hilo gives them credit for. There is remarkably little jealousy among them and when you elect not to go to the VIP rooom this is accepted in good spirit. Yesterday I took a few drinks expecting to chat a little with Riri the bargirl (who happened to have her day off). Mellisa did some butt-grinding in between her dancing stints and of course invited me to the VIP room. When I said to her "Not tonight dear, I have a headache" she almost choked on her Coke. Her English is good enough to understand a remark like that. Whe had a good laugh and a relaxed rest of the evening. D's can also be used just as a bar.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Kadoma; 1518999]Just half an hour ago I went to the booth. It's actually on the ITC Kuningan side of Jembatan 1, 2nd floor as you said. Mainly sells junky magic stuff that kids would like, masks, dopey toys, tricks etc.

Stood there wondering for all of 10 seconds when one of the girls shone a laser pen at me and asked if I wanted to buy it. I said 'no, tapi ada apa lagi? ' quick as a flash she said 'Oh. Kamu mau sex toy? ' Obviously done it all before.

I was then invited to sit in very close proximity to this rather sexy lady as she presented a variety of products, only one of which was really worth buying. No double dongs available, but truckloads of Viagra and Cialis on internal display.

It certainly looks dauntingly efficient, with enough moving parts to entertain a kid for hours, and it does things that neither your nor my appendages could ever achieve, it would be painful to even contemplate, let alone attempt. Unfortunately, she didn't demonstrate it in the way that I would've preferred but you can't have everything.

Rp 450, 000 lighter, I proudly returned to my hotel with its personal X-ray entry, eliciting quite a knowing smirk from the lady on duty. Shades of trying to buy condoms at age 16.

Many thanks for the tip, she will be trying out her birthday present tomorrow night.[/QUOTE]You're welcome! I look forward to reading about the results of her "try-out".

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1519440]The girls are a lot more professional than Hilo gives them credit for. There is remarkably little jealousy among them and when you elect not to go to the VIP rooom this is accepted in good spirit. Yesterday I took a few drinks expecting to chat a little with Riri the bargirl (who happened to have her day off). Mellisa did some butt-grinding in between her dancing stints and of course invited me to the VIP room. When I said to her "Not tonight dear, I have a headache" she almost choked on her Coke. Her English is good enough to understand a remark like that. Whe had a good laugh and a relaxed rest of the evening. D's can also be used just as a bar.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]For those unfamiliar with D's Place here are few pictures of a number of the dancers. Both the girl on the right in picture 823 and the girl on the right in picture 877 are firmly on my to-do-list the next time I'm in Jakarta. I had Mellisa and Ayu in the VIP-room (Ayu more than once). Melisa and Titi were pleasant company in my hotelroom. Maybe this will bust this curious myth about the dancers not being up for action anywhere.

Regards,

Ko

A couple of posts ago the remarkable Indonesian type of massage was mentioned that results in red marks across the back of the subject. While looking for some electronics in Plaza Glodok (the bridge-like structure over the road where Jl. Hayam Wuruk transforms into Jl. Pintu Besar Selatan) I saw this type of massage being performed. It is indeed performed using a sort of coin and the subject is not screaming in agony. On the original picture, pre-resizing, you can see that the masseur is not drawing blood, but only just. I squirmed while watching and then asked permission for a picture.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1520374]A couple of posts ago the remarkable Indonesian type of massage was mentioned that results in red marks across the back of the subject. While looking for some electronics in Plaza Glodok (the bridge-like structure over the road where Jl. Hayam Wuruk transforms into Jl. Pintu Besar Selatan) I saw this type of massage being performed. It is indeed performed using a sort of coin and the subject is not screaming in agony. On the original picture, pre-resizing, you can see that the masseur is not drawing blood, but only just. I squirmed while watching and then asked permission for a picture.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]It's called Kerokan. I requested it a few weeks ago as I had a bad flu virus. It's not that painful and really gets the blood circulation going ("lifts the wind"). It's impossible to do without oil or balm.

More effective than a hot cup of tea.

In Vietnam it's called Gua-Sha so is likely to be of Chinese origin.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel;1519440]The girls are a lot more professional than Hilo gives them credit for.[/QUOTE]Oh fear not, I am well aware of just how professional the VIP girls are, let me give an example to illustrate. The night before last I was in D's and picked up one of the dancers, one of the younger, prettier, ones. I never fancied Melissa she's a bit long in the tooth and looks too much like my ex-wife (and apparently knows how to gouge cash like her too). I've had this particular one before and always enjoyed her performance, she was giving me the usual BJ and then suggested "pom-pom", sure why not I replied. She asked how much, I said "biasa", and she suggested 900, 000. Wow, that was a big price hike from before, and then I thought hang on. 900, 000 that rings a bell. I politely replied that I wasn't Melissa's rich boyfriend and I would prefer to pay the going rate if she didn't mind, she laughed and agreed.

Congratulations Ken, you're now officially a legend in the VIP room of D's. Enjoy your status because you might not be aware but the place is closing down in a few months' time to be replaced with a disco apparently. You and I will just have to go to BATS or CJ's to enjoy the company of older women with an over-inflated idea of their value from now on.

I'll be arriving at Jakarta around midday to afternoon. What's the best place to pickup good quality girls. If you have any contacts, even for brothels please PM me.

Thanks in advance

Is B. A. T. S. Is any good. What's the best time to get there. Picking up, is it something like Brix at Grand Hyatt in Singapore.

Any information is great. It's very hard to find good info about this place.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1519958]You're welcome! I look forward to reading about the results of her "try-out".[/QUOTE]Mighty Spearsman,

A last minute cancellation left me with a toy but no playground. Staying at Le Meridien it seemed only reasonable to pop downstairs and find a volunteer for a test run. Teamed up with Liah, who informed me she'd seen me many times over the years and why had I always ignored her? I rarely venture into Tiga Puluh and even more rarely ever savour the goods on offer (we all know just how tired that poor bar has become) but she obviously has a better memory for faces than I do.

I would never call Liah beautiful but not the opposite either, and to my delight a most fetching body was hidden under rather unsexy clothes. A strange night, her in mourning for her Finnish 'boyfriend', a hard core girl should know better than to fall in love with a customer of 6 weeks. Tears alternated with extreme horniness several times over the course of the test as we tried to put his memory to rest. Apparently he'd been in Tiga Puluh that night and totally ignored her. You've got to love the drama!

She claimed she'd never used a vibrator before and was scared of it's size. More than twice as thick as the average fella and definitely could not be described as small. Some persuasion saw the vibrating tip on the lips and minimalist clit and suddenly she was awash and all in favour. Absolutely no trouble with the size and soon in right to the hilt. When I hit the rotate button and it started waving around in all directions inside her, she went right off. Another happy convert! Took a couple of minutes for the pussy to dilate back to normal penis dimensions, after which she was at it hammer and tongs with the real thing, which she coyly described as 'better', possibly just a business decision designed to make myself feel adequate and appreciated. But the way she kept eyeing the vibrator for the rest of the night. Not to mention a request that I donate it to her and buy a second one for the regular girlfriend.

A good night was definitely had by all.

Needless to say, the next evening the girlfriend was just as happy but I'm far too shy to recount the details.

Well. You did say you want to read about the results!

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1520590]Oh fear not, I am well aware of just how professional the VIP girls are, let me give an example to illustrate. The night before last I was in D's and picked up one of the dancers, one of the younger, prettier, ones. I never fancied Melissa she's a bit long in the tooth and looks too much like my ex-wife (and apparently knows how to gouge cash like her too). I've had this particular one before and always enjoyed her performance, she was giving me the usual BJ and then suggested "pom-pom", sure why not I replied. She asked how much, I said "biasa", and she suggested 900, 000. Wow, that was a big price hike from before, and then I thought hang on. 900, 000 that rings a bell. I politely replied that I wasn't Melissa's rich boyfriend and I would prefer to pay the going rate if she didn't mind, she laughed and agreed.

Congratulations Ken, you're now officially a legend in the VIP room of D's. Enjoy your status because you might not be aware but the place is closing down in a few months' time to be replaced with a disco apparently. You and I will just have to go to BATS or CJ's to enjoy the company of older women with an over-inflated idea of their value from now on.[/QUOTE]I suppose you mean me, although I don't like being called Ken. I don't go around calling you Henry, do I?

Have fun in BATS.

Rates in Maribaya have gone up to IDR 600,000 per girl per hour. At first glance this is outrageous and for locals this may indeed be the case.

What can be taken into account for foreigners, however, is the exchange rate. In June the rate was near 12,500 per Euro. In December the IDR had slumped to nearly 17,000 per Euro, which hugely softens the blow. IDR 500,000 at 12,500 works out at EUR 40; IDR 600,000 at 17,000 works out at approx. EUR 35. For a guy from Europe not much pain. Don't know how it works out in the case of the USD.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1520766]Rates in Maribaya have gone up to IDR 600, 000 per girl per hour. At first glance this is outrageous and for locals this may indeed be the case.

What can be taken into account for foreigners, however, is the exchange rate. In June the rate was near 12, 500 per Euro. In December the IDR had slumped to nearly 17, 000 per Euro, which hugely softens the blow. IDR 500, 000 at 12, 500 works out at EUR 40; IDR 600, 000 at 17, 000 works out at approx. EUR 35. For a guy from Europe not much pain. Don't know how it works out in the case of the USD.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]If you go back about 4 pages, I posted on exchange rates:The rapid depreciation in the Indonesian rupiah (relative, for example, to the US dollar) is a real factor (positive) for tourists to keep in mind.

" First, for the record, I agree that 800k IDR is too much to pay, based on the existing market. Second, again for the record, what you pay or tip is none of my business, and what I pay or tip is none of your business.

Having said all that, the 800k IDR that the girls may be looking to get is about US$65 currently, but was US$88 and change in December 2011. A more realistic 'ask' of 500k IDR is worth about US$41 today, as opposed to US$55 two years ago. *snip* The hundred dollar bill brings about 1. 2 million at the money exchange, not 880k as in the recent past."

I also added some blather about Jakarta vs Bangkok. For my money Maribaya is like Tulip in Bangkok. Good value for the money for a PSE! Best for 2014, TTG

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1520758]I suppose you mean me, although I don't like being called Ken. I don't go around calling you Henry, do I?

Have fun in BATS.[/QUOTE]My apologies, I have no idea how I made such an error in your name when it was written in black and white in front of me, no offence intended. By the way how did you guess my name was Henry? You are very astute.

Hello all,

I will be going to Jakarta on 22nd and will be back on 27th Jan. I heard that there is a massive flood going on overthere. I seek your opinion whether or not should I cancel my trip. The trip has been planned for quite sometime but I do not want to be stuck in the flood.

I will be based in either All Season Gajah Mada, Mercure Harmoni or Mercure Kota. Haven't decide but I guess these hotels are close proximity to classics and travel. Does the flood affects the area?

I have RTFF and understood the going rate was 310k for ST. Does this rate still prevail? I wonder if I can get an all-nighter from these places? If so, what would be the rate that I should pay (800k?). I don't want to spoil the market.

As for the club scene, I also understood that Jalan Falatehan is quite far from my base and it is not recommended during this rainy and floody season. Please advise if otherwise. I don't mind at all to take a taxi for 30-40 mins ride. If not, I will venture out to Millie's. I don't think I have the guts to venture into Stadium after reading all the reports.

Promise will write a detailed report once the trip is completed.

Thanks

Hi,

You will be fine int hose areas. Although the trip from the airport will take longer because the bottom toll road out of the airport is closed. Forcing traffic into 2 not 4 lanes.

Kota fine at present, no problem where you are staying.

ST 400-500k, LT 800-1000k depends on your bargaining and balls. You won't get a girl from classic or travel, most likely to stay overnight. For that you will need FL's from the hotel bars, or BlokM, or try your hand in Nth Jakarta with locals bars (but more language problems and a bit more of a FL mongering challenge).

The rate in Classic is 330k from memory for 1hr. But be sure you choose the 2nd floor, as the basement (bunker) and 5th floor are higher prices, but better girls. 2nd floor is an Indo meat market designed for high turnover locals fucking cheaply, whereas the others floors are a bit more classy (hehehe classy yeh right I hear you say).

Yes Falatehan is BlokM, it is far, but don't worry about flooding, from where you stay it is one straight road almost, which is flood free this year. Just depending on the time of day could take an hour or more.

Milles good, Stadium also good. Just the problem with both of them is that the music, the venue is designed for the drug user. If your not ON, their both pretty average places IMHO and hard to have a good time in. But always good to have a look. If your don't partake in that scene, then I recommend stadium for the experience. Go 3rd floor, sit back and have a beer and watch the gogo dancers. Very safe. If you goto 4th floor. Thats the disco where the drug taking and dance music is played. Definitely worth spending 30mins there, just to experience it. The music system and light show really are very very good. But go after 1am for it to be busy. BUT unless your a pussy, I highly recommend going there to experience it, I have never felt unsafe and have been there in all states of intoxication. Just be smart.

Just remember BlokM, Stadium, Classsic are 3 very different types of venues. BlokM is lower level FL's (most mothers, but good fun and sexually experienced) with lots of expats. All having a good time. Classic is a local house full of Indo men with hokers who are young and usually starfish. Stadium / Milles are trance type nightlcubs, full of drugs and girls either wanting you to buy them drugs or hookers.

If you like Fl's and don't mind spending high drink prices, the hotel bar scene is ok. BATS, CJ's, Tiga Pulu etc.

Let us know if you want info on a specific scene. Advise your age, tastes etc then we can narrow it better.

[QUOTE=Bajuaku; 1522094]Hello all,

I will be going to Jakarta on 22nd and will be back on 27th Jan. I heard that there is a massive flood going on overthere. I seek your opinion whether or not should I cancel my trip. The trip has been planned for quite sometime but I do not want to be stuck in the flood.

I will be based in either All Season Gajah Mada, Mercure Harmoni or Mercure Kota. Haven't decide but I guess these hotels are close proximity to classics and travel. Does the flood affects the area?

I have RTFF and understood the going rate was 310k for ST. Does this rate still prevail? I wonder if I can get an all-nighter from these places? If so, what would be the rate that I should pay (800k?). I don't want to spoil the market.

As for the club scene, I also understood that Jalan Falatehan is quite far from my base and it is not recommended during this rainy and floody season. Please advise if otherwise. I don't mind at all to take a taxi for 30-40 mins ride. If not, I will venture out to Millie's. I don't think I have the guts to venture into Stadium after reading all the reports.

Promise will write a detailed report once the trip is completed.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bajuaku; 1522094]Hello all,

I will be going to Jakarta on 22nd and will be back on 27th Jan. I heard that there is a massive flood going on overthere. I seek your opinion whether or not should I cancel my trip. The trip has been planned for quite sometime but I do not want to be stuck in the flood.

I will be based in either All Season Gajah Mada, Mercure Harmoni or Mercure Kota. Haven't decide but I guess these hotels are close proximity to classics and travel. Does the flood affects the area?

I have RTFF and understood the going rate was 310k for ST. Does this rate still prevail? I wonder if I can get an all-nighter from these places? If so, what would be the rate that I should pay (800k?). I don't want to spoil the market.

As for the club scene, I also understood that Jalan Falatehan is quite far from my base and it is not recommended during this rainy and floody season. Please advise if otherwise. I don't mind at all to take a taxi for 30-40 mins ride. If not, I will venture out to Millie's. I don't think I have the guts to venture into Stadium after reading all the reports.

Promise will write a detailed report once the trip is completed.

Thanks[/QUOTE]It's difficult to tell you to cancel or not, as the situation changes daily. While some parts of Jakarta are under massive amounts of water, such as Kelapa Gading and Pluit, other parts of Jakarta are in pretty good shape. A couple of the Transjakarta bus lines, including Line #3, are closed, but other lines, including the important north-south Line #1 are still open (although there are some delays).

Assuming it's too late to cancel, I think you'll be ok when you get here. The girls have not left town, in fact you might find more choices as many people won't bother to venture out.

I look forward to reading your trip report!

The floods, while bad in some locations mostly residential areas on the peripheries, are by no means as bad they were in previous years when you could take a boat trip down Jalan Thamrin in the city centre. However as Mighty Spearsman says the situation could change from day to day but even in the worst of flooding in the past I found I was merely inconvenienced at worst for maybe a day or two. Anyone staying in a decent hotel (which are filling up with people whose homes have been effected so you might want to get booking) will suffer no great hardships.

If anything at the moment traffic is flowing even better than usual as people stay at home, motorcyclists don't venture out and the trucks are held up at factories and ports. This certainly reduces the number of punters about but as the girls tend to live in low-income housing in the less developed parts of town many of them are also inundated and unable to get out (but think of how desperate for cash they're going to be to fix everything when they are back in business. What? I'm not heartless, I'm an economist by training and that's how I see the world).

If you're already booked I certainly wouldn't let a few inches of excess rainwater put me off.

Hello Jakarta veterans,

May I ask if any of you has a Jakarta travel guide for newbies like me?

I'm planning 10 days in BKK in May. It'll be first sex trip, other than Amsterdam (I'm W. European).

I know that Indonesia and The Phillippines are better suited for experienced mongers so I opted for Thailand.

I just came back from Stadium. I had a very good "sleep" there. Before I looked Block M, bur there was it very quiet. I stay Mercure Kota until 25. January. Yes we have rain in the night but no big problem.

[QUOTE=Liggi1;1522661]I just came back from Stadium. I had a very good "sleep" there. Before I looked Block M, bur there was it very quiet. I stay Mercure Kota until 25. January. Yes we have rain in the night but no big problem.[/QUOTE]What did you partake in at stadium? I'll be there in a few weeks. Sounds interesting with the different levels, can one take a dancer or a FL from the disco to the ST room floor for a quickie, or is this exclusive for the girls on that floor?

[QUOTE=TigerCountry; 1522533]Hello Jakarta veterans,

May I ask if any of you has a Jakarta travel guide for newbies like me?[/QUOTE]Highly recommended the services of Jakarta After Dark [JAD]. Check the classified section for his contacts, or send him a pm.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1522950]Highly recommended the services of Jakarta After Dark [JAD]. Check the classified section for his contacts, or send him a pm.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know JAD, so I'm biased, but I agree with Traveler1234. The best bet for any newbie (especially someone who's only going to be here for a few days) is to contact Jakarta After Dark.

The easiest way is to go to the Classified section and go directly to the last page, where you'll find one of his ads.

If you want further assurance, there are several posts here on ISG by other mongers who have used JAD's services and are satisfied customers.

I look forward to reading your trip reports!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1522995]Yes, I know JAD, so I'm biased, but I agree with Traveler1234.[/QUOTE]We got to coordinate our travel so that next visit, the three of us finally get together. ;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1523020]We got to coordinate our travel so that next visit, the three of us finally get together. ;)[/QUOTE]I agree!

I fondly recall having lunch back in 2005 with JAD, Bulai69, Menteng, KL Guy and some other esteemed Senior Members at a cafe at Sarinah Plaza. JAD had brought two young lovelies, one of whom was enjoyed by Menteng, as shown in the photo below (taken by Menteng). It's too bad that you can't see her pretty face, although you can certainly see her shapely, larger-then-average (by Indonesian standards) breasts.

I later ran into this young lady a couple of times in 2006, not sure what she's doing know.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1522995]Yes, I know JAD, so I'm biased, but I agree with Traveler1234. The best bet for any newbie (especially someone who's only going to be here for a few days) is to contact Jakarta After Dark.[/QUOTE]I know JAD too and fully concur. I got to know him after doing a tour with him quite a few years back. It was educational and, as with clearly quite a few of us, we're still friends now.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1523262]I know JAD too and fully concur. I got to know him after doing a tour with him quite a few years back. It was educational and, as with clearly quite a few of us, we're still friends now.

MD II[/QUOTE]I used him on my first trip. He is great! Don't get down here enough to see him again, but great guy and money well spent.

I'm here now and will use the knowledge I got from him to have a great time! Happy to meet up with other punters this weekend.

[QUOTE=HardHatMat; 1522360]ST 400-500k, LT 800-1000k depends on your bargaining and balls. You won't get a girl from classic or travel, most likely to stay overnight. For that you will need FL's from the hotel bars, or BlokM, or try your hand in Nth Jakarta with locals bars (but more language problems and a bit more of a FL mongering challenge).

Just remember BlokM, Stadium, Classsic are 3 very different types of venues. BlokM is lower level FL's (most mothers, but good fun and sexually experienced) with lots of expats. All having a good time. Classic is a local house full of Indo men with hokers who are young and usually starfish. Stadium / Milles are trance type nightlcubs, full of drugs and girls either wanting you to buy them drugs or hookers.

If you like Fl's and don't mind spending high drink prices, the hotel bar scene is ok. BATS, CJ's, Tiga Pulu etc.[/QUOTE]A very good compilation of the present scene! Fully agree.

You are a resident of Jakarta?

Hi Botaki6,

Yes, I am a resident of Jakarta at present.

This forum really only scratches the surface, there is so much going on in the city, if you have enough time to discover it.

Have fun guys.

[QUOTE=Botaki6; 1523574]A very good compilation of the present scene! Fully agree.

You are a resident of Jakarta?[/QUOTE]

What is the going rate at BATS for overnight?

Is it somewhere 800k. 1000k or over?

[QUOTE=Dkooau; 1523709]What is the going rate at BATS for overnight?

Is it somewhere 800k. 1000k or over?[/QUOTE]I don't know the going rate, but the girl I chatted up last time I was there wanted 2 million. She was going to settle for 1. 5 earlier in the night, but it seems some other guy was offering more later in the night. I let her leave me and go with him.

So from all this what I can gather is there are better looking and younger girls in BATS. Please correct me if I'm wrong. .

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1523740]I don't know the going rate, but the girl I chatted up last time I was there wanted 2 million. She was going to settle for 1. 5 earlier in the night, but it seems some other guy was offering more later in the night. I let her leave me and go with him.[/QUOTE]

Not really. But that particular girl was pretty damn hot.

1m overnight is just fine, best read the posts below and don't even discuss numbers, just get her home and pay her that in the morning. She won't argue with 1m.

[QUOTE=Dkooau; 1523709]What is the going rate at BATS for overnight?

Is it somewhere 800k. 1000k or over?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HardHatMat;1523987]1m overnight is just fine, best read the posts below and don't even discuss numbers, just get her home and pay her that in the morning. She won't argue with 1m.[/QUOTE]I don't know. That girl I was talking with tried negotiating before we left. That's why I ended up not taking her.

[QUOTE=HardHatMat; 1523599]This forum really only scratches the surface, there is so much going on in the city, if you have enough time to discover it.[/QUOTE]True.

But its a big difference if you go there for a short while on biz or vacation (what most of us here on ISG do). Or if you stay there in your own appartment and car and also speak some of the local language. Opens many more doors and opportunities to the thousands of local ladies eager to meet foreigners for a "longer" relationship (whatever that means)

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1524037]I don't know. That girl I was talking with tried negotiating before we left. That's why I ended up not taking her.[/QUOTE]They will always try to negotiate. I probably spent see. 8 weeks a year in the Hotel Mulia over a 4 year period and never gave more than 1M. There's plenty of girls in there that will go for that, some that think they are way above that, some will go for less at the end of the night, but I just stuck to the 1M. I made friends with a newbie who knew nothing of this site and he had been paying 3M to one girl, now wonder she was all over him every night he came to town. His jaw dropped when I told him the going rate. Led to a really funny situation where the girl kept asking me where he was on all the future trips I made, but never asked me if I was interested. Guess she knew my rates and she had hers. Plenty of fish in the ocean, throw it back if it's overpriced and chat up the next one.

Visited all three. Concur with most of recent posts. TG is more casual / friendly girls. No pressure. No tactics. Not the best lookers, but likely not commercial. I did not partake at TGs, as the couple of girls I spotted were taken, and it was a slow night. CJs does have a mix of "veterans" and FLs. So does Bats, but latter probably has more "veterans". One girl told me only crazy types go to CJs. She was at Bats, so I don't know what that means. I had an ok take out at CJs and a decent one at Bats. Luck of draw. Never offer more than 1 mil guys. Unless you are compelled by circumstances. I am amazed at promiscuity of gals in Indo. I did not expect this scene in this country.

Day 1:

Went to classic at around 4pm all by myself. Settled down at one of the tables and had a look around. There were not many people there and the supply was quite abundant I'd say.

Even though supply was higher than demand, I think this rule did not apply in classics as it is not really a free market (Note to Hilo77). Prices are fixed.

The were about 20 customers there, only 2-3 bule and 2-3 Japs and Koreans. Made a rookie mistake since this was my first time in classics. Had an eye with a girl.

Which was very attractive and immediately decided that I wanted to do her. Paid IDR315k and off we went to the room. This was true mistake as the girl was a complete starfish!

No kissing and no licking on the nipples. Did a few positions and settled within 50 mins. No tips for this girl as I'd rate her service as 2/10.

I wanted to go out by the time we were done. But upon going out, I was quite impressed with the new supply. It seems many more chicks were coming in. Decided to hang around.

And ordered a drink. Was seated at the table while enjoying the panoramic view. I was approached by a few mamasans. This time I swore that I would not make the same mistake

Again. So, I outlined all my requirements to the mamasans and all of them kept on introducing me with their supplies. I had about 8 interviews before finally made my decision.

Was offered a threesome at IDR460k. Judging from the earlier performance, I decided not to partake and stick to only one. But again, later in the room, the girl was a complete starfish!

This time, however, she allowed me to lick the tits and fingering. Was done with her after about 5-6 positions, tipped her 50k and decided to call it a day in Classics.

Went to Hotel Travel at around 10pm and needless to say the mechanics were the same but choices are much better in classics. Did one pop and called it a day.

Day 2:

Was quite busy with work. Right after work I decided to try my luck again in Classics. It was around 9pm when I got there.

There were a lot of people, mostly Indonesians, and I did not have the mamasans' attention as I had the day before.

Took my time in selecting the girl and had my selection after about 4 interviews. Price was still IDR315k. This time the girl was quite OK. We had a good conversation.

And took my time to do her until the phone rang. Tipped the girl IDR50k and off I went out of Classics. Decided to try Mille in Lokasari. Went there for about 30 mins,

Didn't like the musics and tried Stadium. It was somehow a weird place for me and music was really loud. So, HardMatMat, I am not a pussy! Heheheh.

By the time I got to the hotel it was around 2am. I could not sleep and decided to go down to the lobby for a smoke. Chatted with one of the taxi drivers and he offered me.

To show where the cewek kost were. Agreed with the offer and off we went for a ride (total ride cost after showing several places for about 45 mins was IDR70k).

I had no idea where he brought me but roughly it was still in Mangga Besar vicinity.

We were stopped by one of the papasans along a very quite road. Asked for cewek and he said he got a plenty. I asked how much and the opening price was IDR 1mil. He offered.

To show me the chicks and I agreed but I stressed out that there was no commitment from me. If I like the girl, yes, we re-nego the deal. Otherwise no deal. He got in my taxi and.

We took a ride for about 10 mins. At the destination, there were about 5 Kijangs with about 6 cewek inside each of it. I took my time to choose and had a chat with the shortlisted.

Candidates. Decided to go for a village type of 19 yrs old. Nego was done in Bahasa and I managed to bring it down to 600k for a long term. But it was quite a tough one!

Sex was just normal, nothing to boast, ok GFE. 2 pops, tipped her IDR50k and she went off at around 6am.

Day 3:

Finished meeting around 3pm. Decided to go to Classics for cheap starfish fuck, zero GFE but great bodies. Spent my time around 1 hour cruising and interviewing.

Decided to go with 18 yr old from Bandung. Learning from the past experience that the service here is purely mechanical, I declined the offer for threesome and lowered.

My expectation to purely cheap starfish fuck. The price this time was IDR350k. I was like what the fuck? But calculating it backwards, it was just about additional.

Increase of USD2. I guess it was because of the inflation. Paid the mamasan and get into the room. This time the GFE was good and sex was fun. Finished her off and tipped.

Her IDR50k.

Went back to the hotel, showered and got ready for bar hopping. Took a taxi to Top Gun in Jalan Falatehan. Oh my. This bar really sucks Big time! I was in for about.

15 mins before deciding it was time to leave. The quality of the girls, IMHO, is just between 5-6 with one or two in the 7. Walked along Jalan Falatehan and got into a.

Passing blue bird taxi to CJs. Now, this was the real bar! Excellent music and expensive drinks. Cover charge was IDR130k. Drinks starts from IDR80k. A little bit on the.

Expensive side. But I personally think that it was worth it.

The quality of the girls is CJ is excellent! Mostly around 7-8 scales (I ignored overweight. 35 yrs old). Occasionally I could spot a few 8 and 9. Had a few drinks and.

Headed to the dance floor. Chat around with a few chicks before heading back to the bar. Ordered a drink and waited if any of the chicks that I had chat had any interest.

After about a few minutes, a chick of scale 8 came. She asked me if I'd like for her company for the night. I asked how much and it seemed that she was pissed off and

Moved on. Not a pro I guess, just some girl who wished to have fun. Later came another girl (scale 9) and same conversation took place. Opening Price was IDR1.5mil.

Did not nego as I decided to wait. I had a chat with a few more and it seems the opening price was IDR1. 5mil. Finally, I decided that I wanted one of the girls.

Scale 9 of course and the opening price was again IDR1. 5mil. She's 28, 32C-23-36 from my judgement. After a few minutes of chat, I managed to bring the price down to

800k and agreed to stay until 6am but only 1 pop. This was around 2am. I was like what the heck, let's go as I needed to unload!

It turned out that she was a bisexual. Sex was wild in the bed. Pounding continued for around 45 minutes before I released my load. She was soooo good at the start-stop technique.

And I swear I could feel 3-4 squirts while I was pounding. Round one settled and we cuddled, chatted and had some coffee. Unexpectedly, she was aroused again and we went for a second round,

Which was even better than the first round. Finished the second round and we cuddled and chatted again. She had to go off at 6 am and she had to be in the office by 8am.

I paid her 800k as agreed, no complaints, she did not even count the money (I could just slip IDR500k and short-changed her. Hahahaha but I didn't). Got her number.

And agreed to meet up again next time I am in Jakarta.

Conclusion:

Go to Classics, travel etc for just quick release or cheap starfish fuck with zero GFE and high mileage girl (heck, they serve 8-10 customer per day what do you expect?)

Go to the bars for some excellent GFE but be prepared to pay higher price. It is quality vs. Quantity and for me, it is always the quality.

Go to the taxi driver for kost girls. Village and innocent type. But if your Bahasa is not good, I would not recommend. Haggling would be tough. If I were to pay.

IDR 1 mil and above, I'd stick to the bar scenes.

Thank you HardMatMat for the benchmarking on the prices and tips.

I left Jakarta as a happy man and already planning my next trip. .

Signing off from Jakarta.

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Guys,

I'm hitting the indo dating sites now preparing for my next trip this coming Easter for 10 days. I'm getting a lot of hits from girls who are from Bekasi. A few have asked if I can visit them there. Is it worth staying in that area for two nights of my 10 day visit? If the dates go bad are there any clubs with FLs around to entertain me? Or. Should I just forget the idea and concentrate on Jakarta? This will be my third visit and I prefer meeting local girls, not so much places like Classic or Travel.

This time I just want to try something a bit different and try a place not frequented by bules so often.

[QUOTE=HappilyMarried; 1524798]Guys,

I'm hitting the indo dating sites now preparing for my next trip this coming Easter for 10 days. I'm getting a lot of hits from girls who are from Bekasi. A few have asked if I can visit them there. Is it worth staying in that area for two nights of my 10 day visit? If the dates go bad are there any clubs with FLs around to entertain me? Or. Should I just forget the idea and concentrate on Jakarta? This will be my third visit and I prefer meeting local girls, not so much places like Classic or Travel.

This time I just want to try something a bit different and try a place not frequented by bules so often.[/QUOTE]Bekasi is actually joined to Jakarta. The hotels in Bekasi are more family getaway type facilties. It would take a girl about 90 minutes to come and meet you at a Mall in Thamrin area. And 100 000 Rp to her for the taxi home. The girls would also expect you to be staying in central Jakarta and may not be comfortable if you were meeting them to close to their family home.

So if you stay in central Jakarta / Mentang you'll have no problems. Different if you based yourself down south in Blok M.

Don't advise inviting the girl who lives in Bekasi that has been to Ireland that's on all the dating sites. She's a real 1/10 in the flesh.

Thnks for the report Bajuaku.

It seems that Classic and Travel don't provide good service anymore and this even after telling the mamasan what you want. Wow that s a big no for me since I would pay for a service not a starfish.

And 1 million as an asking price from village girls? I would say that the papasan and the taxis are quite greedy here. Wonder if you come by urself how much would the price be?

Maybe half of it? What do experienced Jakarta mongers think?

CJ seems to have been a winner for you. Any pics to share?

[QUOTE=Bajuaku;1524746]Even though supply was higher than demand, I think this rule did not apply in classics as it is not really a free market (Note to Hilo77). Prices are fixed.[/QUOTE]Dude, I was obviously referring to freelancers (note the use of the word "free" in regard to both the market and the girls). You didn't seriously expect to go to one of the industrial-sized meat markets like Classic and think you could negotiate your own personal rate did you?

[b]introduction[/b]

on my latest business trip to jakarta i stayed at mahakam hotel in blok m. even though i am a frequent jakarta visitor, it was a first time for me to stay in blok m. but it gave me the opportunities to explore a new section of the city and its spa scene. in this report i will mention a few places that normally get very little exposure in this forum. the purpose with this report is to share some insights i gathered during my trip. hopefully it can guide others who wants to explore south of blok m. please don't ask for therapist recommendations as i have far too little experience with each place to be able to provide any guidance.

after spending some time in this area i noticed the spa scene is different from the one in central / north jakarta. in the south most places are massage+he oriented. some places offer bj and fs but typically at higher prices than in central / north. typical fs price is 500-800 k idr. bj 300-500 k, and hj 100-300 k. all depending on quality and nego skills.

[b]grand wijaya complex[/b]

this area is just besides the darmawangsa square mall. about a 10 min taxi ride from blok m. for map, please refer to.

[url]http://www.streetdirectory.co.id/indonesia/jakarta/travel/travel_id_351/travel_site_167/travel_no_/.[/url]

all establishments are located at the eastern part of the center. inside the center, walk up and down the two streets closest to darmawangsa square and you will see plenty of outlets.

this area contains mainly two types of establishments:

- massage+he (e g at my place, delta, persona sehat, blue ocean). my place and delta includes hj as part of sop providing you do three sessions. other places the cost and services are negotiated in the room with the therapist.

- full service (e g fortune, hidup sehat). official package includes massage only. everything else negotiated in the room with the therapist. fortune is very sleek with a nice pool area and big lounge targeting expat and wealthy locals. rooms high standard with proper doors. h s is more locally oriented and lacks facilities except shower room. rooms basic with ac and massage bed, and door sealed off with curtains.

[b]golden plaza, fatmawati[/b]

this area is located along jl rs fatmawati. about a 15 min taxi ride from blok m. for map, please refer to.

[url]http://www.streetdirectory.co.id/indonesia/jakarta/travel/travel_id_365/travel_site_236/travel_no_/.[/url]

the direct taxi driver to go to lotte mart, jl fatmawati.

this area contains mainly two types of establishments:

- massage+he (e g galaxy). galaxy includes hj as part of sop providing you do three sessions.

- full service (e g mawar). official package includes massage only. mawar is locally oriented and lacks facilities except shower room and a ground floor lounge. rooms small but with proper doors.

[b]conclusion[/b]

in summary i had a great time exploring these areas close to blok m. fortune is by far the most upmarket place in terms of facilities and atmosphere. but in terms of service providers looks looks and performance i didn't really notice much difference. english proficiency is mainly with the front staff. most therapists have very limited or no english skills. but i found it quite amusing to use a big smile and hand language to interact with the girls.

at delta, my place and galaxy they will all ask if you want to extend (meaning a third session). answering 'yes' is typically the cue for triggering the extras. don't forget to tip them 100 k for a job well done.

at fortune, hidup sehat and mawar all therapists i sampled offered me extras. younger girls typically have a higher opening price, but my average price for full service was 500 k. a few young stunners tried to get 1 m, but i just laughed them off. as always, young and beautiful girls have a tendency to be starfish experience, with limited massage- & service skills. my top 5 experiences have all been with 25+ why o who could leverage from their years of experience. they are typically more relaxed, better at engaging with the customers and more eager to please.

i hope this report can inspire other to try out these areas and share their experiences. remember, sharing is caring!

asianmplover

Can't imagine for the life of me why you would stay in the Islamic Republic of Bekasi. Sure its not a bad place to meet normal girls, but there is fuck all else out there. If she's keen, she'll come to Jakarta to meet you. Plus, you have bars, clubs and malls where you can meet regular girls in far greater numbers in Jakarta proper than in the satellite cities. But if that doesn't dissuade you, jump on a bus or train and go out there for the day. Just don't tell me I didn't tell you not to bother.

[QUOTE=HappilyMarried; 1524798]Guys,

I'm hitting the indo dating sites now preparing for my next trip this coming Easter for 10 days. I'm getting a lot of hits from girls who are from Bekasi. A few have asked if I can visit them there. Is it worth staying in that area for two nights of my 10 day visit? If the dates go bad are there any clubs with FLs around to entertain me? Or. Should I just forget the idea and concentrate on Jakarta? This will be my third visit and I prefer meeting local girls, not so much places like Classic or Travel.

This time I just want to try something a bit different and try a place not frequented by bules so often.[/QUOTE]

great write-up, thanks for sharing.

fyi. also wijaya grand there are also a few 'family' massage places, such as mitra sehat. so if you need to explain your existence there for any reason, its because you were going to a legit family massage place.

[quote=asian mp lover; 1525175][b]introduction[/b]

on my latest business trip to jakarta i stayed at mahakam hotel in blok m. even though i am a frequent jakarta visitor, it was a first time for me to stay in blok m. but it gave me the opportunities to explore a new section of the city and its spa scene. in this report i will mention a few places that normally get very little exposure in this forum. the purpose with this report is to share some insights i gathered during my trip. hopefully it can guide others who wants to explore south of blok m. please don't ask for therapist recommendations as i have far too little experience with each place to be able to provide any guidance.

after spending some time in this area i noticed the spa scene is different from the one in central / north jakarta. in the south most places are massage+he oriented. some places offer bj and fs but typically at higher prices than in central / north. typical fs price is 500-800 k idr. bj 300-500 k, and hj 100-300 k. all depending on quality and nego skills.

[b]grand wijaya complex[/b]

this area is just besides the darmawangsa square mall. about a 10 min taxi ride from blok m. for map, please refer to..[/quote]

[QUOTE=Botaki6; 1524100]True.

But its a big difference if you go there for a short while on biz or vacation (what most of us here on ISG do). Or if you stay there in your own appartment and car and also speak some of the local language. Opens many more doors and opportunities to the thousands of local ladies eager to meet foreigners for a "longer" relationship (whatever that means) [/QUOTE]I'd love to hear more. I'm thinking of moving to Jakarta and this could push me over the ledge!

WG

Went to Classic Monday evening at about 8. 00 pm. Not many customers but a fair selection of girls. Several mamasans came to present their girls but I turned them all down until one came up with a very young (19 years) cutie from Bandung. Young, but up to standards. Very GF attitude and a nice session with her which I would certainly repeat. But there are so many more to be entertained.

[QUOTE=Prison Break; 1525092]Thnks for the report Bajuaku.

It seems that Classic and Travel don't provide good service anymore and this even after telling the mamasan what you want. Wow that s a big no for me since I would pay for a service not a starfish.

And 1 million as an asking price from village girls? I would say that the papasan and the taxis are quite greedy here. Wonder if you come by urself how much would the price be?

Maybe half of it? What do experienced Jakarta mongers think?

CJ seems to have been a winner for you. Any pics to share?[/QUOTE]To Prison break.

I never get good service at Hotel travel been going there for over 5 yr now for 350k you are not going to get GFE and very good service, if you want good service go to Club like CJ, red Square and royal crown even that is a hit and miss you don't alway get GFE but your chance is much better.

Fast Eddie 48

Hi guys,

Jakarta newbie here. Off to Jakarta in about 3 weeks for a week. Some great info to be found off this forum!

I was wondering what this Blok M was, thinking, maybe its like Walking St in Pattaya, but when I goggled it, its a plaza, (am I right?)

Anyway, I'm booking my flight next week, then I'll book accommodation. I'll book for 1, so I don't get asked who is "guest 2". Also Im looking at a more resort style accomadation so I can relax and use their spa facilities.

Some questions,

Are he massage places easy to spot? Will the majority give Hjs or FS?

Are the majority of hotels GF?

Thanks.

Dan

[QUOTE=DanTheMan;1526192]Are he massage places easy to spot? Will the majority give Hjs or FS?[/QUOTE]Only the Stadium provides a Thailand like soapie massage, all others more typical FS shop.

[QUOTE=DanTheMan;1526192]Are the majority of hotels GF?[/QUOTE]Yes. 99. 99999% are GF

[QUOTE=Michelangelo; 1525610]Went to Classic Monday evening at about 8. 00 pm. Not many customers but a fair selection of girls. Several mamasans came to present their girls but I turned them all down until one came up with a very young (19 years) cutie from Bandung. Young, but up to standards. Very GF attitude and a nice session with her which I would certainly repeat. But there are so many more to be entertained. [/QUOTE]Classic is my favorite place to go when I'm in Jakarta, I normally get the topless girls as the quality is much better than the ones sitting at the couch. The topless ones are 1.2M normally plus tip (if they are really good).

[QUOTE=DanTheMan; 1526192]Hi guys,

Jakarta newbie here. Off to Jakarta in about 3 weeks for a week. Some great info to be found off this forum!

I was wondering what this Blok M was, thinking, maybe its like Walking St in Pattaya, but when I goggled it, its a plaza, (am I right?)

Anyway, I'm booking my flight next week, then I'll book accommodation. I'll book for 1, so I don't get asked who is "guest 2". Also I'm looking at a more resort style accomodation so I can relax and use their spa facilities.

Some questions,

Are the massage places easy to spot? Will the majority give HJs or FS?

Are the majority of hotels GF?

Thanks.

Dan[/QUOTE]Blok M is both a mall and an area. The best drag for meeting girls in Blok M is known as Jalan Falatehan (jalan means street in Bahasa Indonesian) and there are several bars where you can pick up girls, including Top Gun and others. Many of the girls rotate from one bar to the next in searching of a male companion who has money in his wallet. These bars are somewhat lower-end than the hotel bars such as CJs (Hotel Mulia) , BATS (Hotel Shangri-La) and Tiga Puluh or 30 Bar (Hotel Le Meridien), which also means that their rates for ST and LT should be lower.

The best mall for picking up girls during the day in Blok M is actually Pasar Raya Mall. There's also a pretty good FS massage place in the Blok M area known as Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai) although the place looks run down, most of the girls are mid-20s are higher in age, and the prices have recently gone up there.

Most massage places are FS. Many of the FS massage places are in Kota at the northern end of town, near the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk. These places include Kartika (highly recommended) , Berlian and Royal Mas (all on the same alley. Photo below) , Stadium (3 alleys south) and several other massage places in-between. Also somewhat nearby are Hotel Travel and Classic, both of which have been written about extensively. Two higher-end mps in this general area are Hotel Maribaya and Alexis.

Be careful if you go to Stadium late at night - it's an interesting and unique place but there's often trouble there (plus it apparently has a big drug scene).

A couple of the high-end spas, such as Fortune (opposite Hotel Le Meridien) and the several spas in the Delta chain, are not necessarily FS, but all will be at least HJ. As far as I know, about he only massage places that does not give any extras are the in-call massage places inside the Somerset and Harris hotels.

There are a couple of low-end areas but I wouldn't recommend them for a newbie visitor who's just here for a few days and does not speak the local language.

Virtually every hotel is GF.

Good luck with the traffic! The best taxi service is Blue Bird / Silver Bird, also the white taxi (Express? not sure about the name) and the green one (Gamya). The TransJakarta Busway can sometimes be the fastest way to travel across town, especially Line #1, which takes you from the Kota area (where Kartika is located) to Blok M.

A few final tips:

- no need to overpay if you meet a girl in a bar. She may ask for a ridiculously high price at first but will usually drop her price quickly. There are several posts discussing this here. If the girl sticks to her guns and continues to insist on over 1 million rupiah, just move on to another girl. There are plenty of hot ladies in Jakarta!

- some of the girls who are working the higher-end hotel bars at 10 pm (and asking for 2 million) can be found at the Jalan Falatehan bars at 1 am, asking for 1 million rupiah, LOL.

- all massage place girls will expect a tip on top of the house fee, in part because they personally receive very little of the house fee themselves (often 100,000 rupiah or less). A tip of 50,000 rupiah or 100,000 rupiah will be much appreciated; I usually gave 100,000 rupiah at the Kota spas unless the service was terrible. Remember, 100,000 rupiah is around US $8 or under 6 Euros these days.

- in many massage places, such as Travel and Classic, the really young girls (barely-18) often do not provide very good service, but the mid-20s girls usually provide great service.

- I personally highly recommend that you try Kartika Spa at least once during your visit. It's one of the few mps that regularly offers a body-to-body nuru-style massage. IMHO, every man should experience a two-girl 1-hour session at Kartika at least once in their life! Hint. Pick one girl and let her pick the second girl.

- if you need a local guide, several mongers including me highly recommend Jakarta After Dark, whose particulars can be found as one of the first posts in the Commercial Ads section of this board.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1526223]The best mall for picking up girls during the day in Blok M is actually Pasar Raya Mall.[/QUOTE]Excellent advise MS.

Just wondered where is best to hunt within the mall, down in the food court or above ground in the shopping areas (which in my experience tend to be fairly deserted)?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1526223].[/QUOTE]Thanks, Spear. I have only been to Jakarta once but am going back next year and this will help. Are you aware of any establishments that feature particularly busty girls? .

[QUOTE=D Cups;1526270]Thanks, Spear. I have only been to Jakarta once but am going back next year and this will help. Are you aware of any establishments that feature particularly busty girls? .[/QUOTE]That's a hard question to answer. When I lived more-or-less full-time in Jakarta (2004-08) , I used to joke that Indonesia was the land of the A-cup, especially amongst the Javanese girls (2/3rds of the population) who average 4 foot 11 inches. 95 to 100 pounds and are probably wearing a padded A-cup bra.

Having said that, I ran across a fairly decent amount of larger-breasted women during my mongering there, but it's hard to generalize as to any one place. At Kartika one could find two Javanese girls, the (now-deceased) Cynthia, who weighed only 100 lbs but was a firm, solid C / D cup sitting on a sofa next to 95-lb. Cindy, who had a drop-dead beautiful face but was barely an A-cup. Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawei) had a decent number of larger-breasted women, in part because they were usually mid-to-late 20s and had had a child, or because they came from Sumatra or Ambon, not Java. One girl at Classic (back in 2008) was barely 20 and had rock-solid D-cups, and a barely-legal girl at a flea-bag brothel in Kali Jodo had monstrous firm breasts but was a total starfish in bed (it was fun to play with those tits, however).

The one valid generalization might be that the high-end spas such as Alexis and Malioboro will feature more firm, busty girls, but you will have to pay accordingly.

All massage places, even the low-end places, will probably feature a few busty girls, all you have to do is ask the mamasan. It took me a while to learn that it's perfectly ok to tell a mamasan that you want a teenage girl with big firm tits who gives a great BJ, or a spinner with a tight twat, or a girl from Madura who specializes in the muscle-contracting thing that those women are famous for, or whatever you're looking for. Don't be shy!

If you're having trouble finding what you're looking for, contact Jakarta After Dark (JAD) as he certainly will be able to hook you up with what you're looking for.

[quote=mighty spearsman; 1526223]the best mall for picking up girls during the day in blok m is actually pasar raya mall. there's also a pretty good fs massage place in the blok m area known as maribaya spa (hotel melawai) although the place looks run down, most of the girls are mid-20s are higher in age, and the prices have recently gone up there.

most massage places are fs.[/quote]a very comprehensive report ms and i'm sure dan will return the favour with a long and well-written account of his activities, giving the latest info on service, prices etc and pitfalls to be avoided for other newbies.

one or two small points i would raise. blok m mall hunting, i am now convinced there are two alternative blok m mall universes, the one where a bule has merely to show his face in blok m plaza or indeed pasaraya to find himself bedding a voluptuous young javanese or sundanese beauty within the half hour and the one in which i reside and have resided for the best part of ten years when i can count the number of mall pick-ups i achieved in blok m on the fingers of one finger (on a saturday afternoon, three girls, mid-twenties, hanging around outside). any help enlightening witless fools like me in uncovering the mysteries of the blok m malls would be appreciated. location; food court, shops, coffee shops or cinema? time; afternoon or evening?

massage places and fs, for a new arrival the expectation of fs in the well-known massage joints (with exception of fortune and delta, and of course bersih sehat) is probably fair enough although not always guaranteed.

however, long-term residents, particularly those living in the suburbs of south jakarta, who frequent the massage joints advertised by means of little flyers handed out at various traffic junctions every now and again will know that you almost never get fs in these places. these joints are located in commercial buildings or in suburban houses and invariably have a pretty receptionist who will quote a reasonable price for a 90-minute massage (nb you'll rarely get 90 minutes) and lead you back to a room to await your therapist. the room, which you will have plenty of time to observe awaiting your lady's arrival, will be fairly grotty with a manky old bath tub (no doubt bought second hand from mangerrai) and partitions that don't reach the full way up so you can listen to the slap and tickle of your neighbour getting done.

when your therapist arrives she will greet you with a polite smile and ask you to undress and lie on the mattress on the floor. your therapist will be 25-35, plump and the mother of a couple of kids. she will give you a reasonably satisfying massage and after 45 minutes ask you whether you want himself taken care of. negotiations will begin but will centre around whether she will give you a handjob or a blowjob (the latter being only infrequently available). she will take off her top and allow you to fondle her full, if well-used, breasts for extra. full service is almost never available (i say almost as i don't know for certain, only that it has never been available to me). after you have concluded you'll get a rub down in luke-warm water in the tub but the smell and feel of the cheap massage lotion will linger for the rest of the day. extras amount to about 300, 000 or 400, 000 on top of the massage, usually about 150, 000 to 200, 000.

something to do i suppose if you have root-canal surgery you want to put off in the afternoon, otherwise not worth the time, effort or cash.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1526366]All massage places, even the low-end places, will probably feature a few busty girls, all you have to do is ask the mamasan. It took me a while to learn that it's perfectly ok to tell a mamasan that you want a teenage girl with big firm tits who gives a great BJ, or a spinner with a tight twat, or a girl from Madura who specializes in the muscle-contracting thing that those women are famous for, or whatever you're looking for. Don't be shy![/QUOTE]Our posts appear to have crossed each other MS. I would only add to your point of asking very specifically what it is you are looking for that in my experience you can ask for every factor and detail you like, initially the mami will still bring you the girl she's been trying to fob off for weeks (either newly arrived from the kampung and needs broken in or crap attitude and foisted on the mami because she's been kicked out of all the other establishments in the chain). A few polite but firm refusals are required before the mami gets the message you aren't a chump just off the flight from Singapore.

[quote=hilo77;1526367]a very comprehensive report ms and i'm sure dan will return the favour with a long and well-written account of his activities, giving the latest info on service, prices etc and pitfalls to be avoided for other newbies.[/quote]thanks! although dan is new to jakarta, he's not an isg newbie, so i'm confident he'll be writing some informative and entertaining posts about his adventures.

[quote=hilo77; 1526367]however, long-term residents, particularly those living in the suburbs of south jakarta, who frequent the massage joints advertised by means of little flyers handed out at various traffic junctions every now and again will know that you almost never get fs in these places. these joints are located in commercial buildings or in suburban houses and invariably have a pretty receptionist who will quote a reasonable price for a 90-minute massage (nb you'll rarely get 90 minutes) and lead you back to a room to await your therapist. the room, which you will have plenty of time to observe awaiting your lady's arrival, will be fairly grotty with a manky old bath tub (no doubt bought second hand from mangerrai) and partitions that don't reach the full way up so you can listen to the slap and tickle of your neighbor getting done.

when your therapist arrives she will greet you with a polite smile and ask you to undress and lie on the mattress on the floor. your therapist will be 25-35, plump and the mother of a couple of kids. she will give you a reasonably satisfying massage and after 45 minutes ask you whether you want himself taken care of. negotiations will begin but will centre around whether she will give you a handjob or a blowjob (the latter being only infrequently available). she will take off her top and allow you to fondle her full, if well-used, breasts for extra. full service is almost never available (i say almost as i don't know for certain, only that it has never been available to me). after you have concluded you'll get a rub down in luke-warm water in the tub but the smell and feel of the cheap massage lotion will linger for the rest of the day. extras amount to about 300, 000 or 400, 000 on top of the massage, usually about 150, 000 to 200, 000.

something to do i suppose if you have root-canal surgery you want to put off in the afternoon, otherwise not worth the time, effort or cash.[/quote]you paint a bleak picture of the south jakarta scene. luckily i had very few experiences such as what you described, despite visiting over 30 different mps during my time in jakarta.

perhaps the best advice is to tell dan to visit the tried and true places for fs, such as kartika / berlian / royal mas, maribaya spa in hotel melawai, hotel malioboro and hotel alexis, travel and classic, maybe sumo shiatsu if he's adventurous enough to travel out to kelapa gading. too bad lokasari plaza is closed.
[quote=hilo77;1526370]our posts appear to have crossed each other ms. i would only add to your point of asking very specifically what it is you are looking for that in my experience you can ask for every factor and detail you like, initially the mami will still bring you the girl she's been trying to fob off for weeks (either newly arrived from the kampung and needs broken in or crap attitude and foisted on the mami because she's been kicked out of all the other establishments in the chain). a few polite but firm refusals are required before the mami gets the message you aren't a chump just off the flight from singapore.[/quote]
good advice! maybe one way to persuade the mamasan to listen to you is to tell her that you'll give her a tip afterwards if she provided you with the girl who was exactly what you were looking for?

What have you there during the day time?

[QUOTE=Dkooau;1526391]What have you there during the day time?[/QUOTE]A few possibilities:

1) Every MP mentioned in my previous post is open by 11 am / 12 Noon, and many feature two shifts of girls; for example, the day shift girls at Maribaya Spa work until 5:30 pm or so, while the evening shift girls arrive around 5 pm.

Some of my best MP experiences have been with the day shift girls, many of whom work all day and then go home to their child at dinnertime. One young lovely who worked the day shift at Royal Mas said that she tells her family and neighbors that she works in a stall in a shopping mall and they believe her (or pretend to) since she's always home by 6 pm.

2) Hooking up with girls you've met through the Internet dating sites, such as DIA. I personally have not done this, but there have been a lot of posts written here about this.

3) Book "Jakarta After Dark" for a day-time cruise through the mongering sights of Jakarta. I know for a fact that a decent number of his clients book day-time-only tours since they're busy with the missus or business associates in the evening time.

4) Mall hunting at any of several malls; I've had luck at Sarinah Plaza, Plaza Indonesia, Grand Indonesia, Atrium, Plaza Semanggi, Plaza Senayan and Citra Land (Ciputra Mall? It's the one near the highway near the FM Hotel) , as well as riding on the TransJakarta busway. Smile and say hello in Bahasa Indonesian and you'll be surprised at what might happen.

I've even had luck when I wasn't looking, one day at lunchtime I was at Plaza Senayan on the 3rd floor at the French-bread-bakery / cafe, waiting for a lunchtime appointment with esteemed senior member Bulai69, watching people riding on the escalator, when a beautiful 20-ish girl riding up the escalator caught my eye, walked up to me, gave me her cell phone number, said 'call me' and walked away. Another time I was at Starbucks in Plaza Indonesia (near the south entrance) , with a 2-year-old boy sitting in my lap no less, when a office-professionally-dressed woman in her late 20s stopped, gave me her cell phone number and walked away. And I'm old and fat!

[QUOTE=D Cups;1526270]Are you aware of any establishments that feature particularly busty girls? .[/QUOTE]Aw, D Cups, I've told you that you won't be disappointed! TTG

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1526366]The one valid generalization might be that the high-end spas such as Alexis and Malioboro will feature more firm, busty girls, but you will have to pay accordingly. All massage places, even the low-end places, will probably feature a few busty girls, certainly will be able to hook you up with what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Spear, for the photo, too. Been to Alexis and had a great time. Last time I was in CGK two years ago I also had a DIA three-some with two pair of the biggest knockers I have ever seen on Asian women. One was early 30s and the other, her girlfriend, was early 20s. Together they were magnificient!

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1520374]A couple of posts ago the remarkable Indonesian type of massage was mentioned that results in red marks across the back of the subject. While looking for some electronics in Plaza Glodok (the bridge-like structure over the road where Jl. Hayam Wuruk transforms into Jl. Pintu Besar Selatan) I saw this type of massage being performed. It is indeed performed using a sort of coin and the subject is not screaming in agony. On the original picture, pre-resizing, you can see that the masseur is not drawing blood, but only just. I squirmed while watching and then asked permission for a picture.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]You should try bekam.

They draw your blood by punture your skin with needle then force it out with a suction cup

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1526395]A few possibilities:

2) Hooking up with girls you've met through the Internet dating sites, such as DIA. I personally have not done this, but there have been a lot of posts written here about this.[/QUOTE]Has always been my approach, and has produced good results

Here are some samples. I didn't look for them, but like my friend MS wrote, they are out there!

Well I have to say that it has got me baffled how any long term mongers get any work done in Jkta.

Now here is poor old OS, first day into his mongering break and the BBM and phone just won't leave me alone. Got one 19yo facebook friend on the train on the way in from Bogor. Another who is menstruating has kindly offered to go to Bekasi tomorrow morning and bring me her 18yo friend. And the last one I haven't even told her am in town. This is the kind of logistical challenge that could see me running Federal Express. Ah that reminds me, got to get some extra towels from housekeeping.

Stay tuned folks. Maybe this afternoon we will have some photo's of OS with his big thing in one more facebook friend.

Man I love Indonesia.

OS

[QUOTE=Menteng;1527028]Here are some samples. I didn't look for them, but like my friend MS wrote, they are out there![/QUOTE]Nice! Thanks, Menteng!

Was in Jakarta from Saturday to Monday. For the first time ever. Read a lot of the posts here and came as well-prepared as one can be. Decided to stay at Hotel Ambhara. Perfect GF hotel – no problems whatsoever. Friendly staff, even though they were fully aware of what was going on. They see it every night with many of the guests, I guess.

Saturday, I was quite horny, couldn't wait and went hunting in the nearby malls right away. Many girls sent me eyes and said hello and laughed in a sweet way, and I am sure I could have taken a couple of them with me home, but I was simply too shy to go further down that road and returned empty-handed.

At 22pm I went to Top Gun. It was exactly what I expected after reading the reports here. Mostly women in their 30's, most of them single mothers, but a few of them pretty good looking. Was soon talking with 25-year-old Erna – with a good body and a nice smile. Also her friend, whose name I forgot, and who had a stunning body. Chose Erna though, because of the face, and I did not regret. BBBJ, DATY, several positions and came three times. After that she told me about herself – something I always enjoy listening to, maybe because it makes me feel I am making love to a girlfriend. We made love again and then I sent her home.

Sunday, I went to Top Gun again to pick up Erna's friend. But unfortunately she was not there, and the night was a real disappointment. Went to D's Place and My Bar, but they were empty – only a few scary old women. Went back to Top Gun to wait for the friend, but she never appeared. I was in a bad mood. But then came in a small, tiny and fragile girl. She did not look a day more than 18. Sent her eyes, but she seemed to be in the same mood as I and she was not really up to something – probably because of my size compared to hers. What a pity.

About 1am I just went to a girl and asked her to come with me. There was heavy rain outside, so we had to take the so-called (fake) 'Bluebird'-taxi outside. And of course the driver went in the wrong direction, and the girl did not say anything, in fact she seemed to know the driver. But I knew what this was all about, so I led him in the right direction, and when we came to the hotel, he showed me a sign on the door saying that the minimum was 40,000 IDR. I didn't care at all – we had avoided the rain. The girl was actually good in bed, but – OMG – she had the most terrible breasts I have ever seen in my entire life. Poor woman – she was also ashamed herself. But she gave a good ride and swallowed several loads. I don't think she expected much money, and I gave her for a ST.

Monday I had decided to go to BATS – that should be the grand final. Unfortunately, I had meetings at the hotel and they took a long time, and it was impossible for me to be at BATS before 0:30. But what a place. Totally packed with stunning girls. Unfortunately the best girls were already taken – even though I had decided beforehand to take the very best no matter the price (sorry guys!). Because of all the sex the previous days, I was not quite in the mood, but then came Lia (her real name) or Sammy (working name). She was small and maybe she did not have the best body ever, but she had the most beautiful face – and that is always no. 1 for me. And then she was full of energy, which is also something I like. We went. At the hotel she told me she expected 2 million for LT and 1,5 million for ST. But I told her that I knew from the Internet that nobody ever paid more than 1 milllion. It was late and she accepted. What a deal. This was my best fuck EVER! Afterwards she told me here whole life story in perfect English (at least better than mine). She was very talkative and in such a sweet way. That turned me on and we fucked again. This was the perfect final, and I smiled all the way home on the KLM airplane – what a wonderful girl and what a perfect final.

I have now landed in Amsterdam. I want to take a look at the girls here before I go last kilometers back to Scandinavia. But the girls here are to masculine and cold in my eyes. Nothing compared to those amazing Indonesian girls.

So far, I have only been with hookers (including Thai) in Europe and working girls in China (Chinese and Vietnamese) – but Indonesia was the best and wildest I have ever tried. I have simply fallen in love with the exotic looking, feminine and smiling Indonesian girls. Now, I am already trying to come up with an excuse to go back again. Or maybe to the Philippines and Thailand. Can anyone tell if there are differences (good and bad) between the girls there and the girls in Jakarta? Where do you get the best experience if you – like me – simply cannot live without Asian girls? Where should I go next?

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell;1527208]Well I have to say that it has got me baffled how any long term mongers get any work done in Jkta.[/QUOTE]In all seriousness that is actually a problem here. I have often found myself slacking off at times in this town because of my habit, indeed a few years back I did have to pull myself together a bit. I had been put in charge of a small branch away from head office and I found I had long hours with not a hell of a lot to do, with minimal supervision and well, let's just be honest and admit my employer wasn't getting full value from me. After a few months it got so bad that I got a polite but formal warning over the phone that my absences were being noted and I'd need to buck my act up. It was the first time in a quarter of a century in business and employment that I had ever been reprimanded for my work (or lack of it).

Even now I have to shut off one of the SIM cards on my phone (dual-SIM phones, you know if I didn't know any better I'd think they were invented especially for Jakarta, I don't recollect ever seeing such devices in the west) while I'm at work as the constant buzzing of SMS's was driving my colleagues crazy.

I called it a habit above and that's what it is, you spend too much money, you let it affect your work and home life, you think about it constantly, you even post updates and photos on the internet about it!

Is there a twelve steps program for mongers?

[QUOTE=Simsalabim272; 1528221]Was in Jakarta from Saturday to Monday. For the first time ever. *snip*

Indonesia was the best and wildest I have ever tried. I have simply fallen in love with the exotic looking, feminine and smiling Indonesian girls. Now, I am already trying to come up with an excuse to go back again. Or maybe to the Philippines and Thailand. Can anyone tell if there are differences (good and bad) between the girls there and the girls in Jakarta? Where do you get the best experience if you – like me – simply cannot live without Asian girls? Where should I go next?[/QUOTE]Nice first report Simsalabim. You can start a LONG discussion in this Forum about the various merits / flaws of Indonesian, Thai, and PI ladies. Personally, I vote for the Indonesians, but Thailand is really something to be experienced. I don't have much experience in PI, but the little experience was good! TTG

I arrive IN Jarkata last night from Bangkok no rain but I still saw alot of water on the st, staying at the Olympic hotel behing Lopkosari plaza at 435k a night with breakfast it was late check out hotel travel at 11pm not many girl avalible so take a taxi to royal crown disco it was not many people take to a few girl all want one Juta counter 500k they all said no way, finally find a cute girl a little older 30 yr old with a hot body back to the hotel great BBBJ and AR very GFE stay 3 hr with 2 shot one CIM for 500 k she is very happy she want to stay til morning but I was tried want to get some rest going to check out MTR at kota Indah tonight the USD is still strong 100 USD to 1. 21 mil Juta but everything have gone up alot from last yr.

Fast Eddie 48

I guess business in Kota etc. must be suffering. When I was in Jakarta in January I could reach Kartika without using a boat but the Jakarta Post showed a picture that now Jalan Medan Merdeka Utara is under water. Are Jl. Hayam Wuruk and Jl. Gadjah Mada accessible?

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Simsalabim272; 1528221]Was in Jakarta from Saturday to Monday. For the first time ever. Read a lot of the posts here and came as well-prepared as one can be. Decided to stay at Hotel Ambhara. Perfect GF hotel – no problems whatsoever. Friendly staff, even though they were fully aware of what was going on. They see it every night with many of the guests, I guess.

Saturday, I was quite horny, couldn't wait and went hunting in the nearby malls right away. Many girls sent me eyes and said hello and laughed in a sweet way, and I am sure I could have taken a couple of them with me home, but I was simply too shy to go further down that road and returned empty-handed.

At 22pm I went to Top Gun. It was exactly what I expected after reading the reports here. Mostly women in their 30's, most of them single mothers, but a few of them pretty good looking. Was soon talking with 25-year-old Erna – with a good body and a nice smile. Also her friend, whose name I forgot, and who had a stunning body. Chose Erna though, because of the face, and I did not regret. BBBJ, DATY, several positions and came three times. After that she told me about herself – something I always enjoy listening to, maybe because it makes me feel I am making love to a girlfriend. We made love again and then I sent her home.

Sunday, I went to Top Gun again to pick up Erna's friend. But unfortunately she was not there, and the night was a real disappointment. Went to D's Place and My Bar, but they were empty – only a few scary old women. Went back to Top Gun to wait for the friend, but she never appeared. I was in a bad mood. But then came in a small, tiny and fragile girl. She did not look a day more than 18. Sent her eyes, but she seemed to be in the same mood as I and she was not really up to something – probably because of my size compared to hers. What a pity.

About 1am I just went to a girl and asked her to come with me. There was heavy rain outside, so we had to take the so-called (fake) 'Bluebird'-taxi outside. And of course the driver went in the wrong direction, and the girl did not say anything, in fact she seemed to know the driver. But I knew what this was all about, so I led him in the right direction, and when we came to the hotel, he showed me a sign on the door saying that the minimum was 40, 000 IDR. I didn't care at all – we had avoided the rain. The girl was actually good in bed, but – OMG – she had the most terrible breasts I have ever seen in my entire life. Poor woman – she was also ashamed herself. But she gave a good ride and swallowed several loads. I don't think she expected much money, and I gave her for a ST.

Monday I had decided to go to BATS – that should be the grand final. Unfortunately, I had meetings at the hotel and they took a long time, and it was impossible for me to be at BATS before 0:30. But what a place. Totally packed with stunning girls. Unfortunately the best girls were already taken – even though I had decided beforehand to take the very best no matter the price (sorry guys!). Because of all the sex the previous days, I was not quite in the mood, but then came Lia (her real name) or Sammy (working name). She was small and maybe she did not have the best body ever, but she had the most beautiful face – and that is always no. 1 for me. And then she was full of energy, which is also something I like. We went. At the hotel she told me she expected 2 million for LT and 1, 5 million for ST. But I told her that I knew from the Internet that nobody ever paid more than 1 milllion. It was late and she accepted. What a deal. This was my best fuck EVER! Afterwards she told me here whole life story in perfect English (at least better than mine). She was very talkative and in such a sweet way. That turned me on and we fucked again. This was the perfect final, and I smiled all the way home on the KLM airplane – what a wonderful girl and what a perfect final.

I have now landed in Amsterdam. I want to take a look at the girls here before I go last kilometers back to Scandinavia. But the girls here are to masculine and cold in my eyes. Nothing compared to those amazing Indonesian girls.

So far, I have only been with hookers (including Thai) in Europe and working girls in China (Chinese and Vietnamese) – but Indonesia was the best and wildest I have ever tried. I have simply fallen in love with the exotic looking, feminine and smiling Indonesian girls. Now, I am already trying to come up with an excuse to go back again. Or maybe to the Philippines and Thailand. Can anyone tell if there are differences (good and bad) between the girls there and the girls in Jakarta? Where do you get the best experience if you – like me – simply cannot live without Asian girls? Where should I go next?[/QUOTE]Great report, and proof that a first-time poster can write a post with useful information instead of just asking questions.

A few comments:

- paying 40, 000 rupiah at 1 am in the pouring rain may have seemed like an overcharge but in reality you paid just over US $3, I'm glad you realized that it wasn't a big deal. By the way, I've lived or traveled in several countries where a late night (post-midnight) taxi ride would cost more simply because there's no guarantee that the driver will get another fare quickly at that hour.

- that same girl, the one with the terrible breasts, reminded me of a girl who I had a few sessions with at Stadium's 3rd floor MP back in 2008. That girl claimed to be 24, looked younger, but had had two kids who must have been breast-fed 24/7 and had totally wiped out her breasts. I remember that she always wore a skimpy bandeau (strapless) bra during sex and even in the shower as she was too embarrassed to go bare-chested. No problem, she was great in bed!

- I'm impressed that you stood your ground with Lia / Sammy about not paying more than 1 million, and I hope that other readers will note how quickly she agreed to meet your price.

- I'm not sure I have the courage to enter the "who's better: Thai Filipina or Indonesian girls?" argument as all 3 have their charms. My vote would be for Indonesian girls, however, as the most likely to give a nice GFE experience. Of course I have to always remind myself that it's still a business.

prelude.

i wish i was an asian rain, with photos of girls with see*m dripping down their faces. i wish i was a dorman, busy with my friday (and thursday!) follies. i wishi was more like all of you, my distinguished betters on this forum. however, unfortunately, i'm easily distracted by out-of-the-way experiences and i lack that get-down-to-business attitude. i like roaming around my personal game of gta: jakarta armageddon and am not focused on leveling up.

i visited medika, classic spa and scorpion recently. here follows a field report.

i: medika.

the other afternoon, with or nothing or little to do and a few rupiah in my pocket, i thought i would venture to mal ciputra to see if it could rival mal atrium. it did not, unfortunately. i saw no likely candidates, although i don't think many bules venture there. ymmv. however, i received many, many smiles that i could have followed up on from the spgs working at the toko toko and department stores. (in comparison to other malls in the scbd).

around jam pulang, just after maghrib, i ventured to medika, the club behind mal ciputra. there was supposed to be sexy dancing there. i took the long way, on foot, along jl daan mogot, as opposed to the back way from ciputra. there's also short cut you can take from the mall before the big gate closes at 10 pm i read on an indonesian forum that women assembled on jl. daan mogot at rush hour and could be taken to the short-time hotels that were a little further to the west. i saw no one, save jakarta's teeming masses, eager to catch their mikrolets and bis kota for the voyage home, and i was not eager to stand there and wait.

walking down jl. daan mogot 1, i reached medika and checked my bag with the black-clad burly ambonese and betawi security guards. i saw a sign that said dangdut, second floor.

hey, i thought, i missed that the first few times i was here. i now had a mission. i entered.

the club was dark and the music was blaring. i heard before that there was dancing at 6 pm 8 p. m, and 10 pm but there was no one there and no signs that a show had just ended.

where's the dangdut, i asked. second floor, a mami replied. she directed me to the stairs on the left.

before i reached the stairway i found a huge fishbowl. one i had not seen before. full of 30 or so girls. each had one redeeming trait. a huge bosom, or a sexy ass, for example. which was complimented by a fatal flaw. bad teeth or a less-than-pretty face. ces't la vie. i know that its about rp 350,000 all-in for those girls. their quality is just biasa, and i would rather go to classic or travel for that amount.

then, another surprise: next to the fishbowl was a large room full of tables where you could sit with girls and buy them drinks. i never saw this before. this room makes the club huge. forgive me, i was probably addled with lust and alcohol on my last trip here.

anyway, i made it to the second floor. the lights were on, the band was setting up. no girls. no singers. two indonesian fellows. customers, like me. just entered, too. we came, we saw, we left. the mami there said dangdut would start at 10 pm

another time, mami. another time.

ii: classic spa.

i went to classic spa the next day. i was not in the mood for a rp 400,000 three-way on the second floor. just a massage plus plus. i have had two or three such massages there before. maybe i could negotiate a little bit more this time. not fj or bj or whatever. just something more erotic. maybe topless from the start, or with more frisky touching.

i got my little number tag (no. 1!) at the front desk. i went to my locker and changed into the shorts provided. the lads took my shoes to be shined. (i tipped them rp 20,000 later). i showered, changed again, went into the hot pool, steam room and sauna for about 45 minutes. i showered again, asked one of the lads for a robe and went into the bar / lounge off of the sauna area.

the bar is the gateway to the massage area. it's dark, not noisy or smokey, with many comfortable chairs and a lot of privacy. the girls sit in a sofa area along one wall about 7 meters away. they are well lit. it's possible to sit and look at the television and make a measured decision about the girls.

i hear that these girls are rp 800,000, but have never tried them. these are not the massage ladies, but full-service ladies. some look pretty, most of them look tired. maybe these are girls from the first floor club on a break; maybe it's overflow seating.

i walked straight back and to the right to the front desk for massages. there are three or four attendants there. one handles the scheduling, two handle the paperwork, i think. the scheduler was a tall, friendly betawi girl. i asked for a hard massage and she said, ok, number 35, she's very good.

bagus sekali, i thought in indonesian, ordered a drink and sat down to wait.

the betawi cewek then took me to the private rooms.

we passed a second area of ceweks, waiting waiting waiting.

i was escorted to tiny room. it's larger if you request a lulur (scrub) or the two-girl special (both of which are rp 450,000 for two sessions), but i requested a massage biasa.

there's a shower and a raised area for the massage in the room. it's a clean, well-lighted place, but no radio or television. fortunately, the music blaring from the first-floor club was enough to cut the silence.

i stripped, wrapped myself in a towel and lay down. several minutes later my massage girl walked in: 18 years old, east javanese. holy crap! a gadis hitam manis with smooth skin and a sweet face. she said she had been working there for three weeks and was obviously a bit uneasy, although she was not shy.

i shelved my plans for the super-erotic massage as to not freak her out. her massage was great. number 35 had strong hands.

she did something that i don't know how it worked. i was on my back. i think her hand was wrapped in a towel. she applied pressure to my ass several times with her knuckles. along my legs and then putting pressure right there, on the prostate. wow. awesome.

she took her time, sometimes sliding her hand along the inside of my leg up to my cock. but not touching it. almost, but no. she kept adjusting the towels as she did the massage. when she did my legs, it would cover half my ass. when she did my front, the towel would just cover my cock (until my erection knocked it aside). yes! this is what i wanted!

eventually, i went for a third session (rp 95,000) for "special massage". she asked for rp 300,000. i said no thanks, thinking that i could be on the second-floor in 15 minutes and pay rp 270,000. she immediately dropped to rp 200,000. it was still too much, but what the hell. the massage girl was sweet and beautiful. as she took control i undid her shirt and bra to see her small, firm light brown breasts and soft skin with dime-sized dark nipples.

after finishing things up, number 35 let her hair down. she was pretty. next time i think i will negotiate at the start: hair down, sexy massage, play with little man, topless. i think it is better to be direct up front.

i cleaned up, showered again and left. we agreed on her tip, which was added to my bill as i left. the attendants up front asked me if the massage girl and i had agreed to rp 200,000. i said yes. i was glad they checked with me.

i gave my "paid" card to the guard and walked out of the hotel.

and then i remembered dangdut.

oh yeah, my original mission.

iii permata / skorpion.

the hotel permata, which has a stuffed tiger in the lobby, is just steps away from classic. it also has club skorpion for "dank dhut". dank dhut, not dangdhut. ha! i arrived at 10 pm just as the club got underway. there were about 30 girls, a nine-member band, one or two mamis, an emcee, waitresses and a few customers.

it's run down. think lone star as opposed to asmoro on jl. blora. i ordered a beer and sat down. the emcee had a blazer thrown over a tee-shirt (style!) and was happy to talk to me (in indonesian (. after we spoke, he took to the stage and made a long speech welcoming everyone to the club, thanking me for arriving, told everyone about the fake job and fake background information i gave him, spoke a little about the songs and the band.

the girls then came on to sing, three at a time. after singing, the girls all came through the crowd (which was growing) , shaking hands with everyone in a friendly way. welcome, mister, they would say. some spoke a few words of english, most spoke only indonesian. one girl, a little older and chunkier sang a javanese-style dank dhut song.

intrigued, i invited her to have a drink with me.

the woman was nonie. 32, from yogyakarta but living in jakarta with her adik. she claimed that she and the girls rotated between three clubs: skorpion, some place in ancol and puri mega near jl pramuka in jakarta timur. most of the girls were janda, either widowed or divorced. some had children, some had none. nonie said that no one was paid a salary and that they relied on tips. i am not sure if i believe that, but it makes sense, given how anxious they were to sit for a drink.

the ladies' drinks, by the way, were the same price as my drink. there was no hidden charge. i bought a few dancers drinks and they were happy to have a hand on their leg and to flirt. i got a light kiss once.

i was ready to go home after a few beers. the emcee came over and asked if i had gotten the nomor hape from all the girls. wow. i forgot, but next time i will. i imagine that a nice, generous guy could make arrangements to see the girls during the day (they work from 10 pm to 3 am). a more intent man could probably make arrangements to meet directly after work. you'd need some indonesian language skills. the girls said they were hesitant to talk to me before they know i could speak indonesian. if you don't speak indonesian, i am sure you could dance with the girls and have fun in the dark. although nothing too nakal.

i walked over to jl peconogan and had some food. it's a culinary hotspot, you know. my free tip to you all. then i was full and tired, so i went home and slept.

fin

Great post HHH, I really enjoyed reading it. Love your analogy about the city a bit like your own little version of GTA.

Its like that sometimes, at night in the shadows, discovering the city and finding little gems.

[QUOTE=OmBule; 1528814]Prelude.

I wish I was an Asian Rain, with photos of girls with see*m dripping down their faces. I wish I was a Dorman, busy with my Friday (and Thursday!) follies. I wishI was more like all of you, my distinguished betters on this forum. However, unfortunately, I'm easily distracted by out-of-the-way experiences and I lack that get-down-to-business attitude. I like roaming around my personal game of GTA: Jakarta Armageddon and am not focused on leveling up.

I visited Medika, Classic Spa and Scorpion recently. Here follows a field report.

I: Medika.

The other afternoon, with or nothing or little to do and a few rupiah in my pocket, I thought I would venture to Mal Ciputra to see if it could rival Mal Atrium. It did not, unfortunately. I saw no likely candidates, although I don't think many bules venture there. YMMV. However, I received many, many smiles that I could have followed up on from the SPGs working at the toko toko and department stores. (In comparison to other malls in the SCBD).

Around Jam Pulang, just after Maghrib, I ventured to Medika, the club behind Mal Ciputra. There was supposed to be sexy dancing there. I took the long way, on foot, along Jl Daan Mogot, as opposed to the back way from Ciputra...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OmBule; 1528814]Prelude.

I wish I was an Asian Rain, with photos of girls with see*m dripping down their faces. I wish I was a Dorman, busy with my Friday (and Thursday!) follies.[/QUOTE]There are eight million stories in the Nakal City, this has been one of 'them.

Excellent report Om, great to hear news from the lesser trodden paths of this delightfully wicked town.

By the way whatever happened to that Dorman guy, did his heart finally give out after one East Jakarta student threesome too many?

I am in Jarkata for a week for business it is been 8 month from my last trip everything is higher with inflation in Indo, check out Marabaya at Blok M price is up to 600k and girl are ugly even cherry sauna at Lokasari is now 700k, the best deal is still at hotel travel and classic terminal price is still 350k also check out MTR Grand and royal at kota Indah near Mangar dua price is 300k for the girl very young and service is lousy and the music is too damn loud will check out the disco tonight royal crown and stadium.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1525694]I never get good service at Hotel travel been going there for over 5 yr now for 350k you are not going to get GFE and very good service.[/QUOTE]If you never get 'good service' why you keep going back there. For over 5 Years! Just asking.

I've also never gotten good service at Hotel Travel. I kept trying it occasionally off and on for over 5 years in hopes that it might improve and would be another good option for variety. But it never did. I stopped going there altogether about 3 years ago. Although the girls are nice looking and the price is cheap, I consider that place to be a waste of time.

[QUOTE=OmBule;1528814]I visited Medika, Classic Spa and Scorpion recently.[/QUOTE]Interesting report. Not many bules make the venture over to Medika. JAD took me there on his "Adult Disneyland Tour" many years ago, but you rarely hear about it on this forum. I'd never even heard of Scorpion before. You are obviously more adventurous than the average foreigner.

Walking around Mangga Besar and not in the mood to hit Travel Hotel, I walked into Oasis Spa, opposite Lokansari Place. They run a 40% discount promotion on packages, which include 1 hour standard massage and 45 minutes B2B.

Regular massage girls are mostly 3-5 in the looks, but there was one which was above the lot and certainly 8 in the looks. Gave me a great massage, very professional which I enjoyed a lot. Communication was a bit difficult (I do not speak Bahasa) , but as massage went on she directed my hands towards her boobs (nice C Cup) which she eventually released from her bra when giving me a nice and soft HJ.

After that went back to the group for second selection (standard massage girls wear blue dresses, B2B girls wear green dresses). Mamasan recommended a girl for good service, but she looked to be on the heavy side, so I declined and picked a slim cutie with a nice smile. Good looking girl, petite, perfect body with a nice "C" cup and eager to please. Shower, B2B, shower again, BBBJ and covered FS in multiple positions. Her name is Putri and can only be recommended.

Total damage 395. 000 IDR for a good 2 hours of entertainment.

[QUOTE=Michelangelo; 1529566]Walking around Mangga Besar and not in the mood to hit Travel Hotel, I walked into Oasis Spa, opposite Lokansari Place. They run a 40% discount promotion on packages, which include 1 hour standard massage and 45 minutes B2B.

Regular massage girls are mostly 3-5 in the looks, but there was one which was above the lot and certainly 8 in the looks. Gave me a great massage, very professional which I enjoyed a lot. Communication was a bit difficult (I do not speak Bahasa) , but as massage went on she directed my hands towards her boobs (nice C Cup) which she eventually released from her bra when giving me a nice and soft HJ.

After that went back to the group for second selection (standard massage girls wear blue dresses, B2B girls wear green dresses). Mamasan recommended a girl for good service, but she looked to be on the heavy side, so I declined and picked a slim cutie with a nice smile. Good looking girl, petite, perfect body with a nice "C" cup and eager to please. Shower, B2B, shower again, BBBJ and covered FS in multiple positions. Her name is Putri and can only be recommended.

Total damage 395. 000 IDR for a good 2 hours of entertainment.[/QUOTE]Just a matter of curiosity: the Jakarta Post reported flooding of Jakarta as far as Monas (see attachment Jakarta Post February 06). Mangga Besar is reported as being flooded. Why does nobody over the past week say anybody about this? Are they related to Jesus and thus can walk on the water? The mind boggles.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1529539]JAD took me there on his "Adult Disneyland Tour" many years ago,.[/QUOTE] Nice characterization. Typical JAD with his mickey mouse ceweks :D

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1529575]Just a matter of curiosity: the Jakarta Post reported flooding of Jakarta as far as Monas (see attachment Jakarta Post February 06). Mangga Besar is reported as being flooded. Why does nobody over the past week say anybody about this? Are they related to Jesus and thus can walk on the water? The mind boggles.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]No need to be Jesus. I did not see any water in the area where I was walking.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1529575]Just a matter of curiosity: the Jakarta Post reported flooding of Jakarta as far as Monas (see attachment Jakarta Post February 06). Mangga Besar is reported as being flooded. Why does nobody over the past week say anybody about this? Are they related to Jesus and thus can walk on the water? The mind boggles.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]While my wife does frequently accuse me of having messianic tendencies I haven't quite developed any miraculous powers yet (it's a miracle that I can get out of bed some mornings but that's another story).

However if you actually read the article you will see the money quote.

"As of 3 PM, he [the Monas satpam] only reported minor flooding surrounding the park."

In other words there was a little bit of localised flooding around the Monas area for an hour or two on Wednesday morning, nothing more.

I was only ever once prevented from getting around Jakarta due to flooding and that was in February 2008 when boats were being used to transport people down Jalan Thamrin. Nothing this year has even come close to that.

I was in Mangga Besar myself on Wednesday afternoon and whilst the mamasan of the Cherry Spa did utter "Oh Christ, not you again!" I doubt if she was referring to my Sea of Galilee pedestrian abilities.

[QUOTE=OmBule;1528814]I wish I was an Asian Rain, with photos of girls with see*m dripping down their faces. I lack that get-down-to-business attitude.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Good to hear something outside of the usual bule haunts.

Here is a tight and pert North Jakarta talent opening her buffet at the Prinsen Park. No cum dripping yet, but definitely ready to get-down-to-business. Just as I prefer. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain

I didn't care for Travel, Top Gun, Classic, Maribaya or any of the places in Blok M. They seemed somewhat run-down and I didn't find the girls attractive. I liked three of the bars: BATS in the Shangri-La, Tiga Puluh at the Meridien and CJ's. My favorite was BATS. Girls

asked 1. 5 million for two hours, and I usually countered with 1 million with a bonus of up to 500K for excellent service. They worked hard for the bonus and it seemed to be the right strategy. I usually don't like overnight, but the one time I asked for it, I got it for 1. 5 million. Hotel Alexis was one of my favorites, but it was expensive. Girls are grouped by nationality. I think Indonesians were around 1. 2 million for one hour and foreigners (Chinese, Vietnamese, Eastern Europeans) cost around 1. 8 million. Quality was high in terms of looks, but service was only average. They also have straight massage and the service was great. For massage parlors, both Fortuna near the Meridien and Sun City were both excellent and offered full sex as well as the massage. Some people like Marlioboro, but I was underwhelmed.

I'm going back in May. I would appreciate any suggestions for places I have not named here-especially high-end places.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1529537]I've also never gotten good service at Hotel Travel. I kept trying it occasionally off and on for over 5 years in hopes that it might improve and would be another good option for variety. But it never did. I stopped going there altogether about 3 years ago. Although the girls are nice looking and the price is cheap, I consider that place to be a waste of time.[/QUOTE]To Smoothy.

I check ut Millie disco last night around midnight pick up a girl with hot body very GFE stay 3 hr 500 k, the girl quality at hotel travel is going down hill girl at classic terminal have better girl but none of them are happy to be there and sex is ok but the attuide is not.

Fast Eddie 48

It's been 14+ years since I've been to Indonesia, I can still remember those great days of US$1 = Rp65, 000.

I'm finally in town for a few days, staying at Le Meridien, and was wondering what's the typical rate for the ladies downstairs at Tiga Puluh? A quick look at recent posts shows Rp400K-500K is about right for a short time and maybe Rp 1 Million for all night, am I in the ball park here? Is there a "walk of shame" from the bar or is it a straight shot from the bar to my room?

Thanks very much.

MadVic

[QUOTE=Madvic; 1530128]? Is there a "walk of shame" from the bar or is it a straight shot from the bar to my room?

Thanks very much.

MadVic[/QUOTE]As many more local brothers here will tell you, if you get the rooms on the same tower as TP, then its up the escalators from the club, and almsot immediately your in the elevator to your room. I think I've done the club to the room route, in about 2 minutes max on many ocassions.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1530128]It's been 14+ years since I've been to Indonesia, I can still remember those great days of US$1 = Rp65, 000. I'm finally in town for a few days, staying at Le Meridien, and was wondering what's the typical rate for the ladies downstairs at Tiga Puluh? A quick look at recent posts shows Rp400K-500K is about right for a short time and maybe Rp 1 Million for all night, am I in the ball park here? Is there a "walk of shame" from the bar or is it a straight shot from the bar to my room?[/QUOTE]Tiga Puluh is a very pale shadow of its former self, totally unlike the way it was when you were here. You might well find the place completely deserted on a weekday, and not much better on the weekend. Also, prices have gone up dramatically all over Jakarta, you'll be lucky to get the prices you mention even at Top Gun in Blok M, let alone the hotel bars. In those bars, it's closer to a million for ST, and 1. 5 to 2 for all night. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but those days have gone.

Well, I've never been to Tiga Puluh before, that's why I asked. I did find it this afternoon and see that it is a quick walk to the lift and upstairs. My fun times in Indo before were over at the Shangri-La in Surabaya and over on Sulawesi (I think the city is now called Makkasar?).

Thanks for the update on pricing. When I was doing some research here, a few months ago, I thought I saw ST rates were around Rp400-500K. I guess, I'll have to budget more.

Thanks!

MadVic

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1530199]Tiga Puluh is a very pale shadow of its former self, totally unlike the way it was when you were here. You might well find the place completely deserted on a weekday, and not much better on the weekend. Also, prices have gone up dramatically all over Jakarta, you'll be lucky to get the prices you mention even at Top Gun in Blok M, let alone the hotel bars. In those bars, it's closer to a million for ST, and 1. 5 to 2 for all night. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but those days have gone.[/QUOTE]To Gonzo two.

I was at Blok M last night most girl are dog not like the good old days 300k for all night, most good looking girl asking 1 juta for 3 hr will not drop the price even with the strong USD that is still very high.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1529656]While my wife does frequently accuse me of having messianic tendencies I haven't quite developed any miraculous powers yet (it's a miracle that I can get out of bed some mornings but that's another story).

However if you actually read the article you will see the money quote.

"As of 3 PM, he [the Monas satpam] only reported minor flooding surrounding the park."

In other words there was a little bit of localised flooding around the Monas area for an hour or two on Wednesday morning, nothing more.

I was only ever once prevented from getting around Jakarta due to flooding and that was in February 2008 when boats were being used to transport people down Jalan Thamrin. Nothing this year has even come close to that.

I was in Mangga Besar myself on Wednesday afternoon and whilst the mamasan of the Cherry Spa did utter "Oh Christ, not you again!" I doubt if she was referring to my Sea of Galilee pedestrian abilities.[/QUOTE]To Hilo 77.

I was at Cherry last week too the girl there are dog and want 700k are they trying to price themself out of business, Classic Terminal and hotel travel is still 350k two girl for 525k.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1530696]To Hilo 77.

Classic Terminal and hotel travel is still 350k two girl for 525k.[/QUOTE]Is it still you never got good service there since you been going there 5 years and you keep going back.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1530739]Is it still you never got good service there since you been going there 5 years and you keep going back.[/QUOTE]You will not get an answer from this onehanded typist. I doubt if he ever leaves the safety of his keyboard.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1530696]To Hilo 77.

I was at Cherry last week too the girl there are dog and want 700k are they trying to price themself out of business, Classic Terminal and hotel travel is still 350k two girl for 525k.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]At least you got a quote for the job, last time I was there I got a perfunctory massage after which the girl asked "ada lain?", yes there very much was ada lain so could she kindly get on with it.

"Gak bisa mister, lagi mens".

Well she damn well might have brought that piece of information up before we went to the room.

I get the impression that bules actually aren't that welcome in Cherry, maybe I'm just being paranoid.

[QUOTE=Possessed Seoul;1525236]Can't imagine for the life of me why you would stay in the Islamic Republic of Bekasi. Sure its not a bad place to meet normal girls, but there is fuck all else out there. If she's keen, she'll come to Jakarta to meet you. Plus, you have bars, clubs and malls where you can meet regular girls in far greater numbers in Jakarta proper than in the satellite cities. But if that doesn't dissuade you, jump on a bus or train and go out there for the day. Just don't tell me I didn't tell you not to bother.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. Glad I asked. Don't think I'll be going out there!

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1530874]At least you got a quote for the job, last time I was there I got a perfunctory massage after which the girl asked "ada lain?", yes there very much was ada lain so could she kindly get on with it.

"Gak bisa mister, lagi mens".

Well she damn well might have brought that piece of information up before we went to the room.

I get the impression that bules actually aren't that welcome in Cherry, maybe I'm just being paranoid.[/QUOTE]To Hilo77.

They show me the price down stair on the front desk after I went upstair and look at the girl and turn around and left, don't know why they are still in business so many place around the area have much better girl at a lower price.

Fast Eddie 48

You remember US$1 = Rp65, 000? I don't think so. In 1995-96 the Rupiah traded at about Rp2, 300 per USD. The Asian currency crisis in 1997-98 severely affected the Thai Baht and the Rupiah. In June 1998, the Rp hit bottom at Rp16, 800. It has never come close to Rp65, 000.

[QUOTE=Madvic; 1530128]It's been 14+ years since I've been to Indonesia, I can still remember those great days of US$1 = Rp65, 000.

I'm finally in town for a few days, staying at Le Meridien, and was wondering what's the typical rate for the ladies downstairs at Tiga Puluh? A quick look at recent posts shows Rp400K-500K is about right for a short time and maybe Rp 1 Million for all night, am I in the ball park here? Is there a "walk of shame" from the bar or is it a straight shot from the bar to my room?

Thanks very much.

MadVic[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1531601]To Hilo77.

They show me the price down stair on the front desk after I went upstair and look at the girl and turn around and left, don't know why they are still in business so many place around the area have much better girl at a lower price.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]The last time I went to Cherry was about a year ago. But at that time there were a few real gems there.

i popped into d's for a quickie (drink) on the way home from work the other night. i noticed the door of the vip room was propped open and all the lights were on inside. thinking this odd i mentioned it to the bar maid, she replied that it was because of a police raid, i asked her when the raid was and she replied "later tonight". you really have got to love a town where the peelers give advance notice to the knocking shops that there will be a raid.

speaking of d's, surely i can't be the only one who has impure thoughts about the mother / daughter team of waitresses? they could easily pass for sisters and are as sexy as all get out. unfortunately as the older lady is the missus of one of d's owners (lucky bar steward) i am pretty certain that is one particular sick fantasy i won't be fulfilling, but a man can dream can't he?

I was in Jarkata last week visit Hotel Travel and Classic Terminal a few time, I find girl attuide is down from last yr price is the same as last yr 350k but girl are more pushy on tip than before the last girl at hotel travel is so pushy she will not open the door unless I tip her.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1531961]You remember US$1 = Rp65, 000? I don't think so. In 1995-96 the Rupiah traded at about Rp2, 300 per USD. The Asian currency crisis in 1997-98 severely affected the Thai Baht and the Rupiah. In June 1998, the Rp hit bottom at Rp16, 800. It has never come close to Rp65, 000.[/QUOTE]To John Marigold 99.

Many Indonesia businessman I talk to think they will have another bank and enconomy crsis the next few yr not as bad as the one in 1998, after the riot in Jarkata the Rp hit bottom and I remember the government reissue new currency I have to go to the bank to exhange my old currency.

Fast Eddie 48

Talk about money. The continuous price rises in the most popular bars (blok M, CJ's, Bats) can be a bit hard to watch for long term Indonesian visitors like myself.

As an example. Just a few years ago, ST prices in the bars of Blok M ranged from 300k to 350k. I was happy with that. Then it became 500. Still ok. But I found myself negotiating it back to 400k every time, as it takes less than an hour to spill my yoghurt, and 500k I found a price to be inflated by tourism.

But then came the IDR depreciation, late last year. 2013. The Indonesian account balance was in trouble and at exactly the same time, ST prices jumped up to 700k.

Now, inflation and cost of living have remained stable over the time period. Showing tourism being the main factor to drive ST price hikes.

Either visitors (tourists) coming to Jakarta do not have much of a clue about the current rates or they convert to their own currencies. It must be that.

Because, if I go out to either Jakarta's North, West or East and pick up a freelancer there, prices have remained the same, give or take 50k, for about the last 10 years.

The other week, I was in the back alleys of KaliJodo. Historically, one of the oldest, if not the oldest, monger area in Jakarta. Not entirely safe, but I love being there. It is a completely local scene. No tourists. And a freelancer over there, still charges the same as about 10 years ago. Same quality, but about a third of the new, blok M price.

How much tourism has taken hold of mongering Jakarta, was shown a while back here in the forum. A guy posted that he had paid 250k for a freelancer. Being considered stingy, he got flamed for that. By many.

So even here, when it comes to pricing, most still don't understand what they are talking about. Anyway, I go to blok M for drinks only nowadays. Enjoy Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen; 1533869]Because, if I go out to either Jakarta's North, West or East and pick up a freelancer there, prices have remained the same, give or take 50k, for about the last 10 years.

The other week, I was in the back alleys of KaliJodo. Historically, one of the oldest, if not the oldest, monger area in Jakarta. Not entirely safe, but I love being there. It is a completely local scene. No tourists. And a freelancer over there, still charges the same as about 10 years ago. Same quality, but about a third of the new, blok M price.

How much tourism has taken hold of mongering Jakarta, was shown a while back here in the forum. A guy posted that he had paid 250k for a freelancer. Being considered stingy, he got flamed for that. By many.

So even here, when it comes to pricing, most still don't understand what they are talking about. Anyway, I go to blok M for drinks only nowadays. Enjoy Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more, when I first went to Marabaya on the 6th Floor 10 years ago, it was Rp 300, 000 for an hour, nowadays it's what 500, 000, 550, 000? Plus tips and over priced beer that's beginning to be a serious chunk of change for a place that's barely had lick of paint in all that time and where quite a few of the same girls who serviced me back then are still working there.

Meanwhile my freelancers who I use to recruit other girls from North and West Jakarta are still looking for pretty much the same as they have over the past six or seven years, and as Joel says that's because they aren't servicing bules.

Someone's messing with the market chaps.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen; 1533869]Talk about money. The continuous price rises in the most popular bars (blok M, CJ's, Bats) can be a bit hard to watch for long term Indonesian visitors like myself.

As an example. Just a few years ago, ST prices in the bars of Blok M ranged from 300k to 350k. I was happy with that. Then it became 500. Still ok. But I found myself negotiating it back to 400k every time, as it takes less than an hour to spill my yoghurt, and 500k I found a price to be inflated by tourism.

But then came the IDR depreciation, late last year. 2013. The Indonesian account balance was in trouble and at exactly the same time, ST prices jumped up to 700k..[/QUOTE]When I first drank in TopGun the girls would ask for Rp50 000 LT and 1 US$ was about 2800 RP. I was a combination of 23 years old, niave and stingy so saw no reason to pay. Pentagon bar was over the road where later on the rich girls would be looking for bule meat anyway.

Last year on a trip to Jakarta I realised it was 21 years since I last pulled in TopGun so decided to reward myself a present from there. With low expectations of the quality and the fact that some of the girls were still in residence from 21 years ago (bought them soft drinks) I was actually quite impressed by the quality (about 9pm).

Took out a Sundanese lass, very good manners so went to a Sports bar in Menteng to catch some football. She'd been working hard in the Japanese bars south of the blok m bus station and fancied a change of work venue. No complaints about her service and attention to detail after the match. As she got ready to leave the hotel room I thought shit what's the going rate for this. As I'm now old enough to understand these girls need the money. I offered Rp 600 000 as a guess. She gave me back RP 100 000 and said 1/2 mill was cukup.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen; 1533869]Talk about money. The continuous price rises in the most popular bars (blok M, CJ's, Bats) can be a bit hard to watch for long term Indonesian visitors like myself.

As an example. Just a few years ago, ST prices in the bars of Blok M ranged from 300k to 350k. I was happy with that. Then it became 500. Still ok. But I found myself negotiating it back to 400k every time, as it takes less than an hour to spill my yoghurt, and 500k I found a price to be inflated by tourism.

But then came the IDR depreciation, late last year. 2013. The Indonesian account balance was in trouble and at exactly the same time, ST prices jumped up to 700k.

Now, inflation and cost of living have remained stable over the time period. Showing tourism being the main factor to drive ST price hikes.

Either visitors (tourists) coming to Jakarta do not have much of a clue about the current rates or they convert to their own currencies. It must be that.

Because, if I go out to either Jakarta's North, West or East and pick up a freelancer there, prices have remained the same, give or take 50k, for about the last 10 years.

The other week, I was in the back alleys of KaliJodo. Historically, one of the oldest, if not the oldest, monger area in Jakarta. Not entirely safe, but I love being there. It is a completely local scene. No tourists. And a freelancer over there, still charges the same as about 10 years ago. Same quality, but about a third of the new, blok M price.

How much tourism has taken hold of mongering Jakarta, was shown a while back here in the forum. A guy posted that he had paid 250k for a freelancer. Being considered stingy, he got flamed for that. By many.

So even here, when it comes to pricing, most still don't understand what they are talking about. Anyway, I go to blok M for drinks only nowadays. Enjoy Jakarta.[/QUOTE]To Joel Goodsen.

I agree Inflations hit Indo hard the last 5 yr most freelancer in Jarkata has raise their price is double from 7 yr ago, I was at Millie disco most girl want one Juta now all all nighter when I was there a few month I pick one up 300k stay 3 hr 2 shots but not this trip, you can still get girl at Stadium in house for 350k same as Hotel travel and Classic terminal even Bitang Mawar drop their price to 325k it was 400k on my last trip, place like Cherry massage and melawi hotel 6th sauna is pricing themself out of the market will be out of business very soon.

Fast Eddie 48

Inflation has indeed hit Blok M but the quality of girls has gone downhill. Top Gun had nothing to be considered for take out when I was there a couple of weeks ago, D's Place was a bit better. Finally ended up on the other side of the city and had a great time with a little spinner at Classic for 350k.

There's no inflation. My plate of soto ayam still costs the same as it did 3 years ago and the rent did not change for even longer.

If they even know what it inflation is, it's all just an excuse to get more money. The other side of town where freelancers of the same quality look for Asian clients, for example, are still charging the same they've been charging since 5 years ago so it's obviously a Bule-only thing. Besides, we're not in Thailand and the economy, demographics and salaries here all work to our benefit.

If you get a price higher than average (4/500k ST and 800 LT) at the Blok, just bargain her down then walk away if she doesn't budge. With an overly saturated market like here they will be back in no time coming looking for you to go with them for your price once they figure out they would be better with money than no money at all. And it'll work in places like BATS and CJ's too, if they aren't popular enough, because it costs them 150K to get in and another 50k or so to get there.

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1531961]You remember US$1 = Rp65, 000? I don't think so. In 1995-96 the Rupiah traded at about Rp2, 300 per USD. The Asian currency crisis in 1997-98 severely affected the Thai Baht and the Rupiah. In June 1998, the Rp hit bottom at Rp16, 800. It has never come close to Rp65, 000.[/QUOTE]OK, it's been a long time, but that is what I seem to recall from back then. If I'm wrong, sorry.

By the way, I thought Tiga Puluu wasn't too bad. I finally bedded a cutey named Erin. Kept her all night for USD$100. Now I know the guys who know Jakarta will blast me for paying that much, but I'm not real familiar with the local activities and didn't have much time to go exploring.

I was happy, she was happy. That's all that matters.

MadVic

I have a question for those here in the republic for the long-haul: Do you find it better to tone up or tone down your local savvy when playing the game?

I have some profiles on social networking sites where I completed the "about me" section in Indonesian (although my Indonesian is meh, maybe). And I've noticed that since I've done that, I've got less replies. Or more Zzzzz nicey-nice girl replies.

Similarly, I wear batik, which goes over well professionally. And I think that the ladies go huh, om bule, and walk on by.

It's like I'm too local, with all of the negative things that that implies. When I wear Western dress, it feels different.

So I am thinking: I should tone down the localness, maybe pretend to be passing through. Simplify the social media profile with only a dash of local language and bust out the Sundanese, gaul and Javanese (mongo!) later.

I wonder how long-haul residents have changed their game over the long haul. And I wonder if it is just me getting to reflective and melancholy as I get older.

PS Thank you to the members like Hilo77 and AsianRain, who had kind words about my last report. And thanks everyone for the information on the board.

[QUOTE=Madvic; 1534861]OK, it's been a long time, but that is what I seem to recall from back then. If I'm wrong, sorry.

By the way, I thought Tiga Puluu wasn't too bad. I finally bedded a cutey named Erin. Kept her all night for USD$100. Now I know the guys who know Jakarta will blast me for paying that much, but I'm not real familiar with the local activities and didn't have much time to go exploring.

I was happy, she was happy. That's all that matters.

MadVic[/QUOTE]Most FLs in Jakarta would be happy if they get USD100 for overnight. I'm not going to blast you, but I will chide you. The fact is that we have this site so that we can discuss local pricing in order that we don't spoil the market for others. The bottom line is that if enough people come in and start paying these prices without a thought as to the effect, you get the current situation where it becomes the normal price in that location. I myself haven't been to Tiga Puluh for years. Much as I enjoyed going there at one point in time. This is a regular topic that crops up on the forum and everyone seems to have their opinion. However, I recall when I first joined some years back that one of the primary purposes would be so members would know where to go for our hobby, and how much we should pay. This was so that we wouldn't be overpaying and creating problems for ourselves. The other confusing factor that comes in is that some members quote in USD and some in Rupiah. I would suggest, due to fluctuating forex rates, that we should also stick to pricing in Rupiah and add the pricing in USD / Euro / Sterling etc in brackets after. Any thoughts?

Just as an aside, I have paid 1 million rupiah in Tiga Puluh some time back, but then again it was for almost 24 hours so she did deserve it. The normal rates back then (circa 2006) were 300-500k LT. I also had 4 girls for 1 million from Tiga Puluh for about three hours back then. They were friends and shared transport costs (and it was ladies night) so it made economic sense to them. That was when Bulai69 and Menteng were regular posters in this forum. Damn I'm starting to show my age if I'm going to go on reminiscing about "the good old days".

MD II

I don't think there are enough of us on this board to influence pricing in Jakarta, since it's a huge market. The market controls pricing; we don't, so all the admonitions to bargain and keep down the price are probably useless. You can't really blame the girls. They're right to get the best deal for themselves as they can. If their prices are too high, no one will buy their services and they will have to lower their prices. The same thing applies to us. If we aren't willing to pay the going rate, no one will go with us. It's pointless to complain. The market is the market, and you better understand that.

In my own pursuits, I like to read what others are paying to get a sense of the market. However, the market is not one price. The sexier, younger, more attractive girls can get better prices. Also, the same girl may hold out for more money earlier in the evening and drop her price if she can't find a customer. Similarly, she may go for a lower price if she really needs the money badly. Personal chemistry is also a factor. If she finds you attractive, she may charge you less. All this means one price is not the market for all situations.

I'm pretty demanding, so I'm willing to pay a bit more, if I really like the girl. One problem with bargaining real hard is that it can result in a lower level of service. If you don't pay her price, you can get a rushed service and of lower quality. I've found that I get much better service if the girl likes me and I'm paying a fair price. Tough bargaining can really spoil the mood. Here is an example of what I would do. At BATS, the going rate for two hours of service is around $100 US from someone who is pretty attractive. All-night can go up to $150. By reading ISG, I can get a sense of the market. Let's say I see a stunner at BATS who I would like to take to my room. After a nice conversation, I tell her what I want. I try to be pretty specific. She quotes me $200 for two hours. I don't walk away, because I really like her. I don't make a low-ball offer either. I tell her that her price seems pretty high and that I usually pay $100 for good service for two hours. She'll say that she's worth more. I'll tell her that she is definitely worth more, but $200 is pretty high. After a while, she may come down to $150. I'll say that I have a proposal for her: I'll give her $100, but if the service is really good, I'll include a $50 tip for a total of $150. Most of the time, she will accept the offer. This accomplishes a number of things. First of all, she doesn't lose any face that she might if I were a hard bargainer. Second, I can limit my downside to $100 if she gives me mediocre service. Third, I will probably get great service, because she'll be thinking about the $50 incentive. She will also feel good about me, since I've affirmed her value.

Now, some of you may say that I'm ruining the market and that I could get a girl to go with me for short-time for $50 or $75. That may be true, but it's probably not true for the girl that I want. Also, there's no bad feeling. She'll work really hard, because I've been polite with her and she wants to get that $50 bonus.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1536280]You can't really blame the girls. They're right to get the best deal for themselves as they can.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right that we can't control the market, but why do you have to add fuel to the fire by overpaying and making it appear as though Westerner Bule are walking ATMs that can be tricked and manipulated? You paid $150 the other night, that's nearly a solid 2 juta.

With local and Asian clients, because they haven't been over paying them, they still get lower prices than Westerners for the exact same thing and sometimes for better quality and girls. Do you get my point?

A lot of these FLs add 100% or even 200% when they are in a Westerner Bule-only zone. For example, a girl who used to hang out at Lokasari and charges 400K to the local guys and even foreigner, suddenly asks 1.5 and even 2 juta at BATS. Has she changed one bit? Nope, but maybe a little genuine worn out Gucci handbag she borrowed from her friend that she brings everyday to make it appear as though she's high-class enough that you need to over pay her.

Let's not forget another thing. These girls unless they are from a rich family would probably be making a salary between 1.8 juta to 3 juta a month working 15 hours a day. If they're graduates from the average university here they'll be making 5 to 7 juta tops. So I can't understand why some guys here are saying "$100 is not a lot of money for them"?

[quote=ombule;1535939]i have a question for those here in the republic for the long-haul: do you find it better to tone up or tone down your local savvy when playing the game?[/quote]i find it's horses for courses. when you're visiting your "dank-dut" clubs a proficiency in bi is not only useful it's pretty damn near essential. on the dating and other sites you're looking to meet a different type of woman though aren't you? the sort of girl who's online, if she's interested in bules, is interested in them because they are seen as a bit exotic a bit of a change, and hopefully without the bad attitudes that the girls might associate with local guys. to put it another way, if you lived in the states and were looking to meet indonesian girls online because the sweet indonesian girl is your ideal, well then you'd probably avoid an indonesian girl who had lived long-term in the us and had assimilated all the characteristics and speech patterns of a valley girl.

one other point is that an indonesian woman will associate long-term residence in indonesia and proficiency in the lingo with what they endearingly term a "playboy". they will assume with perhaps some justification that you mastered the language through your wide range of long-haired dictionaries. i know my missus gets automatically suspicious if i use some bahasa expression (god forbid i should use sundanese, that would be a dead giveaway) or make reference to some local cultural thing or "artis" (and at this point it might be worth warning all you married guys that if you normally converse with your wife in english try not to let slip "oh iyah sayang, kaya begitu aja!" when she starts performing a particular act of lovemaking, not only will the act end suddenly without fulfillment the chances are you'll be spending the rest of the night on the couch. i know of which i speak).

on the batik thing, again it depends on the batik, if you have a fine selection of batik outfits carefully collected from your travels around the archipelago then they certainly would be a nice touch, a little idiosyncrasy associated with yourself. if however you wear batik like a bule kampung, you know the type, the english teacher eating his mie goreng at the warung with two batik shirts to his name, which he wears constantly because he can't be bothered washing and ironing a proper business shirt every day, then it might not come across so successfully.

so to answer your question i usually downplay the length of time i am here but that is mainly because i speak bahasa pidjin and i don't want to come across as a complete numpty. but like every thing else, the less they know about you and the more things you know about them the better by far.

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1536280]I don't think there are enough of us on this board to influence pricing in Jakarta, since it's a huge market. The market controls pricing; we don't, so all the admonitions to bargain and keep down the price are probably useless. You can't really blame the girls. They're right to get the best deal for themselves as they can. If their prices are too high, no one will buy their services and they will have to lower their prices. The same thing applies to us. If we aren't willing to pay the going rate, no one will go with us. It's pointless to complain. The market is the market, and you better understand that.

In my own pursuits, I like to read what others are paying to get a sense of the market. However, the market is not one price. The sexier, younger, more attractive girls can get better prices. Also, the same girl may hold out for more money earlier in the evening and drop her price if she can't find a customer. Similarly, she may go for a lower price if she really needs the money badly. Personal chemistry is also a factor. If she finds you attractive, she may charge you less. All this means one price is not the market for all situations.

I'm pretty demanding, so I'm willing to pay a bit more, if I really like the girl. One problem with bargaining real hard is that it can result in a lower level of service. If you don't pay her price, you can get a rushed service and of lower quality. I've found that I get much better service if the girl likes me and I'm paying a fair price. Tough bargaining can really spoil the mood. Here is an example of what I would do. At BATS, the going rate for two hours of service is around $100 US from someone who is pretty attractive. All-night can go up to $150. By reading ISG, I can get a sense of the market. Let's say I see a stunner at BATS who I would like to take to my room. After a nice conversation, I tell her what I want. I try to be pretty specific. She quotes me $200 for two hours. I don't walk away, because I really like her. I don't make a low-ball offer either. I tell her that her price seems pretty high and that I usually pay $100 for good service for two hours. She'll say that she's worth more. I'll tell her that she is definitely worth more, but $200 is pretty high. After a while, she may come down to $150. I'll say that I have a proposal for her: I'll give her $100, but if the service is really good, I'll include a $50 tip for a total of $150. Most of the time, she will accept the offer. This accomplishes a number of things. First of all, she doesn't lose any face that she might if I were a hard bargainer. Second, I can limit my downside to $100 if she gives me mediocre service. Third, I will probably get great service, because she'll be thinking about the $50 incentive. She will also feel good about me, since I've affirmed her value.

Now, some of you may say that I'm ruining the market and that I could get a girl to go with me for short-time for $50 or $75. That may be true, but it's probably not true for the girl that I want. Also, there's no bad feeling. She'll work really hard, because I've been polite with her and she wants to get that $50 bonus.[/QUOTE]I understand the second part of what you have stated. But there's no huge market involved. It's about CJ's, BATS, Tigapuluh and the bars at Faletehan. Places, frequented by foreigners.

Because the supply is not huge, the girls can maintain their high price or even increase it because they know they are rare. And they manipulate foreigners who fall for their charms, thus raising the prices. And once they know a foreigner is willing to pay their new price, they will continue doing so: marketforces! You are willing to pay $150 when you get good service. Next time the girl will try again to get the $ 200 and one day, an eager guy will be willing to pay that. So, next time you want the same good service you have had with her, you'll have to pay $ 200. For $ 150 you'll get a basic treatment.

It's different in the northern part of Jakarta. There's a huge supply there. So the girls have to keep their lower prices to survive the competition.

Just arrived and will be here until Saturday. If anyone wants to grab a drink and swap stories that would be cool. Always find it funny to be alone at Classic Terminal or Alexis while all these groups of guys are sitting around joking with one another. I use the place like an in / out brothel rather than a place to relax.

[QUOTE=Pita123;1536561]Just arrived and will be here until Saturday. If anyone wants to grab a drink and swap stories that would be cool. Always find it funny to be alone at Classic Terminal or Alexis while all these groups of guys are sitting around joking with one another. I use the place like an in / out brothel rather than a place to relax.[/QUOTE]I'll be in Jakarta from May 3-9. If you're there at that time, let's get together.

I read Hilo77's very entertaining, inspiring and well-illustrated (!) report about Cherry Spa in Lokasari Plaza and remembered my less-exciting but hopefully interesting trip to Jl. Mangga Besar.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy," would be my advice to the uninitiated."We must be cautious." Of course, I'm joking. There is scum and villainy there, naturally. We bring it along with us. But nothing for the average visitor who has spider-sense to worry about. And, of course, everybody has already been there already because of Hotel Travel.

One recent afternoon, I wanted to check out Bintang Mawar, which, according to old reports on other Indonesian-language boards, was an exciting bopping place open for business around 12 noon and full of working girls and freelancers. I was there previously during a slow night and wanted to know if the daytime scene was different.

It's located on the left on a side street that you will pass if you walk toward Lokasari Plaza on the way from the TransJakarta stop. BM is only 30 meters from the main street, however. Just charge on.

At night, the place looks seedy from the outside. During the day, it looks seedier and rundown. There are a few toothy scraggily parking men out front, directing traffic for Bintang Mawar and the dangdut club next door (I forget its name). At night, the sad sign for the Hotel Safari is illuminated. Only some of its letters still function.

Inside it is dark. While the girls sit right by the door, you cannot see them when you enter: Your eyes are adjusting to the low light inside. There looked to be about 15 when I entered. The place is not too big: Maybe 25 tall tables and stools and a wall mounted television that shows pictures of the girls identified by number (although none were wearing visible numbers).

At 12 noon, there were about four other dudes there, all middle-aged Indonesians. None looked too happy. I guess they had their game scowls on. Actually, they were probably just anxious.

The mami made a few minutes of small talk with me and then brought over a girl: A pretty petit 19-year-old from Tasikmalaya with a slim body, long hair, a sweet face and some crooked teeth.

This is what the girl told me about how things worked at BW: They work from about 11 in the morning to 11 at night. There were 15 girls working at the moment, although in the evening there would be about 75 girls (which would make the club full to the point of swelling, if true). The youngest girl was 19, the oldest 28. She had been working in Jakarta for a month (naturally) and would go back home in another three: Apparently, her co-workers were all from the same area and were all recruited here on contract. During their off time, she and the 7 other girls in her nearby dormitory room would watch television.

The girl said that there were indeed bule guests at the Bintang Mawar. People spoke English "little-little", she said. So come on down!

The price was 325, including the room, which was unchanged from the last time I visited. The room, by the way, is accessed by a dark, narrow stairway that leads to a mysterious corridor the ends up in the Hotel Safari next door.

BTW, Hotel Safari, or S-f-ri at night, since some of the neon letters on the sign are burned out, is where the ladies who hang about inside Lokasari Plaza after the sun goes down will offer to take you for short time fun.

Kalau saya tidak salah, because I can't remember clearly from that last trip, the hotel rooms are smaller than a kost, coming with a single bed, a television, a glass-enclosed shower cube and lacking full walls (meaning they stop with about a foot from the ceiling).

What special hell, I wonder, would it be to stay as an overnight guest in the Bintang Mawar.

In the short term, it was fine. There was even a clean, if threadbare, towel.

I think the draw of the place is for middle-class Javanese men who might not get a warm reception at the Chinese-focused Hotel Travel and who are looking for gadis desa.

But no, I didn't feel like repeating the experience this time. I tipped the petit 19-year-old Rp 50.000, tipped the mami Rp 10.000, paid my bill and went on my way. To Kimochi Spa, which deserves a separate report.

Fin

[QUOTE=UsPete; 1534035]When I first drank in TopGun the girls would ask for Rp50 000 LT and 1 US$ was about 2800 RP. I was a combination of 23 years old, niave and stingy so saw no reason to pay. Pentagon bar was over the road where later on the rich girls would be looking for bule meat anyway.

Last year on a trip to Jakarta I realised it was 21 years since I last pulled in TopGun so decided to reward myself a present from there. With low expectations of the quality and the fact that some of the girls were still in residence from 21 years ago (bought them soft drinks) I was actually quite impressed by the quality (about 9pm).

Took out a Sundanese lass, very good manners so went to a Sports bar in Menteng to catch some football. She'd been working hard in the Japanese bars south of the blok m bus station and fancied a change of work venue. No complaints about her service and attention to detail after the match. As she got ready to leave the hotel room I thought shit what's the going rate for this. As I'm now old enough to understand these girls need the money. I offered Rp 600 000 as a guess. She gave me back RP 100 000 and said 1/2 mill was cukup.[/QUOTE]Hey its my first trip to Jarkata. I read the post and it seems as though that bars are the hunting grounds in the city would you agree? If so what would you recommend. I am there only for a 2 days and want to make the most of it. Thanks for your help

Hey all. Am visiting Jarkata for the first time and by reading the post it seems that bars are the best places for mongering. I am only in the city for 2 days and wanted to get advise which areas I should stay because its not fun to be away from the action. Also any recommendation on bars or night clubs. I also read somewhere that one fellow hunter took back a sudanese beauty. Is it a mixed scene in terms of cultural looks. I know I may sound like a fool and I usually do my research but thi strip just sort of popped up in my schedule so would appriciate any help! Thanks all

[QUOTE=HimKoi;1537394]Hey all. Am visiting Jakarta for the first time and by reading the post it seems that bars are the best places for mongering. I am only in the city for 2 days and wanted to get advise which areas I should stay because its not fun to be away from the action. Also any recommendation on bars or night clubs. I also read somewhere that one fellow hunter took back a sudanese beauty. Is it a mixed scene in terms of cultural looks. I know I may sound like a fool and I usually do my research but this strip just sort of popped up in my schedule so would appreciate any help! Thanks all[/QUOTE]The gentleman was with a "Sundanese" beauty (note the letter 'and' after the letter 'you') , not a Sudanese beauty from Sudan in Africa. That refers to the Sundanese people, who inhabit the western part of the island of Java; there are several million Sundanese people although it is not the largest tribal group in Indonesia (the largest by far are the Javanese people who are dominant in the central and eastern parts of Java).

Yes, bars are the easiest place to monger, especially for someone like you who's only here for a couple of days and (presumably) does not speak the local language. No, it's not a mixed scene here in terms of cultural looks, over 90% of the women you could potentially hook up with would be Indonesian.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1537621](note the letter 'and' after the letter 'you')[/QUOTE]I do appreciate the administrator of this site is a stickler for proper grammar and punctuation but the spellchecker he has installed does lead to some really dumb stuff coming up on people's posts, see above. Furthermore the insisted upon space after a comma makes it difficult to properly write out prices given the denominations of the Indonesian currency. The law of unintended consequences strikes again.

By the way did anyone else notice that the net censors blocked this site a day or so ago? It's nice to see it back again, I wonder why they changed their mind.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1538064]By the way did anyone else notice that the net censors blocked this site a day or so ago? It's nice to see it back again, I wonder why they changed their mind.[/QUOTE]What a coincidence. Even here in Spain, ISG could not be approached.

[quote]=Hilo77; 1536521]One other point is that an Indonesian woman will associate long-term residence in Indonesia and proficiency in the lingo with what they endearingly term a "playboy". They will assume with perhaps some justification that you mastered the language through your wide range of long-haired dictionaries. I know my missus gets automatically suspicious if I use some bahasa expression (God forbid I should use Sundanese, that would be a dead giveaway) or make reference to some local cultural thing or "artis" (and at this point it might be worth warning all you married guys that if you normally converse with your wife in English try not to let slip "Oh iyah sayang, kaya begitu aja!" when she starts performing a particular act of lovemaking, not only will the act end suddenly without fulfillment the chances are you'll be spending the rest of the night on the couch. I know of which I speak).[/quote]I everytime get that too when speaking bahasa to girls here. However some do appreciate that as you are in their country of host and we would expect the same thing if they were in our country. Also the assumed educated people here are not different then their poor brothers and sisters who pollute the sewages and streets. Saw some rich kids binning some bottles during car free day which I call care free day with all the garbage on a regular Sunday.

Longtime lurker, first time poster, so forgive any mistakes in abbreviations or style of report.

I recently spent a week in Jakarta with some hobby time available. Not my first visit, but in the past I've always been tied up with business commitments in the evenings. Following recommendations from others on this Board, I got in contact with Jakarta After Dark (JAD) in advance and arranged for a nightlife orientation the evening of my arrival (a Saturday night). Most definitely a good investment! Too bad there aren't similar services available in other cities in Asia. JAD picked me up from my hotel at 8:00pm and after some discussion we decided to work from low-priced end of P2P spectrum upwards. First stop was Travel. The set up has been described in many other posts, so I won't repeat. Went with the recommendation of one of the Mamasans for a 19-yr old from Bandung. 8/10 with thin build and nice figure. Got to the room and started with a shower, wherein she gave nice attention to my cock while I admired her body. On to the bed where things quickly went down hill. She started with a somewhat half-hearted BBBJ which went on for only a couple of minutes. I kissed her neck, which she didn't seem to mind, but also wasn't reacting to. When I tried to move down to her breasts, she pushed my head away; ditto when I tried to move down her stomach towards her pussy. On with the cover and she motioned for mish (her English was limited). I motioned instead for CG. She climbed on reluctantly and slid my cock inside of her. No motion at all from her side as I moved my hips up and down. Pulled out and switched to mish. Again, total starfish action from her. I decided this wasn't going anywhere, so I finished in mish and let her clean me up. I showered and gave her 100K, which was probably more than she deserved. Next stop was Classic. Same routine as Travel, but this time I got really lucky. Based on the experience at Travel as well as advice from several posters on this Forum, I was planning to go with a somewhat older girl this time. However, as I was checking out the girls, a petite thing gave me a huge smile (whereas most of the others looked bored or gave no reaction when I looked at them). Parentheses here to say that while I'm certainly no model or movie star, I'm not bad looking either. Anyway, the girl turned out to be an 18-yr old from Jakarta, named Ainee. Hardly any English, but an infectious smile. She seemed totally excited when JAD called over the Mamasan and told her I wanted to go with this girl. She took my hand and led me to one of the rooms. I ordered a beer for myself and a soda for her (her choice). While waiting for the drinks to come, she started kissing me, which was rather unexpected (but still welcome!). LK quickly moved to DFK, which she was totally into. When the drinks showed up she motioned that we should share the beer. Cool with me. We each took a few swigs and she then pointed to the shower. Once she had undressed, and in particular had taken off her high heels, I realized how tiny she was. I'm 6'1" and she barely came up to my chest. Perfectly rounded little ass and tits with raisin like nipples. She giggled when she saw me admiring her body and grabbed my cock, which was getting hard just at the sight of her. She took her time soaping me up in the shower, paying special attention to my cock, and laughing when I had to bend down so that she could wash my hair. On to the bed and more DFK. She then moved down to an amazing BBBJ. I was about to burst, so I pulled her head up and gently pushed her down on her back and began to lick her neck and then moved down to suck on her nipples. She was soon moaning and squirming. She let out a gasp when I moved down to her pussy, but was soon totally into it, with her hips raised to meet my lips. I put in a finger and she came almost immediately. From the look on her face, I think it was unexpected. She started to lean down for more BBBJ and I swung her around so that we could go with 69, which she again was very much into. After about 10 minutes she pointed to a condom and I nodded OK. On with the cover and she straddled me and slide down my cock. Her pussy was very tight, so I let her control the pace initially. Soon she has bouncing up and down and was moaning and squealing. We moved through several positions, ending with me facing her standing on the side of the bed and her legs (or should I say her feet, as her legs barely reached) on my shoulders. I popped in that position, but kept pumping for a minute or so, as she was bucking her hips to meet my thrusts. After I finally pulled out, she cleaned me up and we finished the beer together. We then lay down on the bed and she put her head on my chest while I caressed her tiny ass. Wasn't too long before I was hard again and she had put on another cover. Again, we went through several positions, including with me standing and holding her (hands under her ass, with she facing me). She was so light that I was able to bounce her up and down on my cock. I'd never done this before, and it was a total turn on. She was moaning and pressing her mouth to my lips. I came again and we lay down on the bed again and began kissing each other all over. Total GFE action. The phone soon rang to signal time up, but I told her I wanted to go on. She gave me a smile of delight and said something in Bhahasa. She then handed me the phone and I confirmed that yes, I wanted to go on, and yes I understood it would cost extra. After about 10 minutes of caressing and kissing, she started another slow BBBJ. I wasn't sure whether I'd be able to go another round, but sure enough, I was soon hard again. On with the cover again and back through a series of positions. This time I tried to finish in K9, but couldn't manage. She seemed worried that I was upset, but I smiled and told her that I was too old for three pops (I didn't say that I'd already dome one earlier at Travel). I doubt whether she understood what I was saying, but nodded OK when I pointed to the shower. We hugged for a while letting the water run over us, and then she cleaned me up. I got dressed while she cleaned up herself and waited for her to dress. I gave her one last long kiss and $200K which elicited a big smile. Told her I'd come see her again, but I wasn't sure that she understood, and by the time I found JAD (I realized that I had totally lost track of time and had forgotten that he was waiting for me) , she had disappeared.

I apologized to JAD, but he said it was cool, and was glad that I'd had a good time. He suggested that we go to either BATS or CJs. After describing the scene at each, I oped for CJs. We took a taxi over, paid the entry, and I bought each of us a beer. He suggested that I walk around and check out the action. Several local ladies caught my eye, and I talked to one from Bali for a few minutes, but decided to move on. I went back over to where JAD was and realized that one of the ladies with whom I'd exchanged glances had followed me over. From her looks, I figured she was probably from Northern or Western China (I lived in Beijing for a few years, so know the looks) ; her face was not SE Asian, and her bust was too big to be local either. Face / body about a 7/10. Turned out she was from Mongolia. We chatted for a bit in Mandarin (I can carry on a basic conversation) and then in English (hers is excellent). She was soon all over me, but I knew that I was pretty well spent for the evening, so that taking her to my hotel would be a waste of $$. I asked her how much for overnight anyhow, just to get an idea of what she was asking. She said 3 million. I said way too high and countered with 1.5 million. She said OK, but just for ST. I told her that I would come back the following Saturday, and that we would talk again.

JAD suggested that we go check out Alexis, but I was at this point pretty exhausted. I'd arrived around noon after 20 hours of travel with very little sleep; plus the fact that Ainee had worn me out. We headed back to my hotel and JAD dropped me off. Like I said earlier, he is a great resource. Not only about the P2P scene in Indonesia, but also about the economics of the business in general, and it was interesting to hear his perspective.

I had business obligations and work to catch up on on Sunday and Monday evenings, so no play those nights. On Wednesday evening, I decided to go back over to Classic. Thanks to JAD, I was pretty clear on the routine, so had not worries about going on my own, despite lack of Bhahasa. I went in and headed to the same area where Ainee's group had been sitting. I didn't see her, but another cute girl from Jakarta came up to me and asked whether I wanted to go with her. I asked if she knew Ainee; she said yes, but that she (Ainee wasn't working that night). Maybe so, or maybe she was with another customer, so I decided to go with this girl instead. Very upbeat girl by the name of Jali. Not as tiny as Ainee, but also short and thin. 6/10 on looks / body, but again a nice GFE experience, although not nearly up to the level of Saturday night. I was certainly satisfied, and gave her $150K tip. She gave me her phone number and asked whether I wanted to call her to come to my hotel another night. I was a bit surprised, as I'd asked JAD about this and he'd told me that the girls from Classic generally aren't allowed to do overnights.

Thursday night I went back to Classic again. I walked in and after about 15 seconds ran into Jali. She gave me a smile and a big hug. But when she saw me looking around, she asked whether I wanted Ainee. I asked whether she was there, and Jali said yes, and called over the Mamasan. I though for a few seconds about doing a threesome, but decided against it. Instead, I gave Jali 50K. She seemed shocked, but soon gave me a big hug and a kiss. I won't repeat details of that night's session with Ainee, but will say that it was almost as good as Saturday night, although this time I only went two rounds. Before I left, I asked her whether she wanted to come to my hotel that coming Saturday night. She siad yes and gave me her phone number, making sure that I put it into my phone correctly.

Friday night I was out of town, but arrived back in Jakarta in the late afternoon on Saturday, which was going to be my last night. I thought seriously about calling Ainee, but then decided that it probably wasn't too smart to show up at my hotel with a waif looking girl who speaks hardly any English. Instead I took a nap until 10:00pm and then headed over to CJs. As soon as I went inside, I ran into the Mongolian girl from the previous visit. She gave me a big hug, telling me that she didn't think I'd be back. I told her that I'd said I would (although frankly I was by no means sure at the time). At this point, I figured that my bargaining position with her was somewhat limited (yes, I know that there were a lot of other women there, but to tell the truth I'd gone back mainly because I did want to fuck her. She again asked for 2. 5 million for all-night but eventually agreed on 1.75 for 2 hours. Headed over to my hotel. Fortunately she was wearing a dress that, while sexy, didn't scream WG, so I was cool walking through the hotel lobby to the elevator. Up to the room and I offered her a drink (I'd skipped this at CJs, as I didn't see a reason to pay their prices when I was pretty sure we'd be heading back to the hotel fairly quickly). What followed was an enjoyable, but not sensational session. Her boobs turned out to be enhanced and she didn't like having them caressed. She did enjoy DATY (which I enjoy performing) and was OK with several different positions when it came time to do the deed. We went two rounds and then showered, and I walked her down to the lobby. I took her phone number, and send her a nice text the next morning, but probably wouldn't repeat with her next time I'm in Jakarta.

For fellow members who might want to try out Ainee (or Jali, as I'd recommend both) , their Mamasan had them situated (at least the week that I was there) , in the right hand corner of the room from where you enter the club, near the door that goes back to the bedrooms on that side. If you happen to spend a session with either of them, treat them well. I expect that you don't find a GFE at Classic every day.

[QUOTE=Lion55; 1539187]Longtime lurker, first time poster, so forgive any mistakes in abbreviations or style of report.

*snip* I expect that you don't find a GFE at Classic every day.[/QUOTE]Good writing and glad you had a great time. TTG

[QUOTE=Lion55; 1539187]Longtime lurker, first time poster, so forgive any mistakes in abbreviations or style of report.

I recently spent a week in Jakarta with some hobby time available.

Friday night I was out of town, but arrived back in Jakarta in the late afternoon on Saturday, which was going to be my last night. I thought seriously about calling Ainee, but then decided that it probably wasn't too smart to show up at my hotel with a waif looking girl who speaks hardly any English.[/QUOTE]Quite possibly the best first-time post ever!

I'm also glad to read that you took our advice and used JAD's services, definitely a wise decision. As you pointed out, he can both take you to the right places and can give you inside tips that you'd never figure out as a short-time visitor.

Only one minor point of disagreement. There would not have been any problem with the hotel if you showed up "with a waif looking girl who speaks hardly any English", the only possible problem might have been being seen by a co-worker, but the hotel would not have cared.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1539199]Good writing and glad you had a great time. TTG[/QUOTE]Thanks for the encouragement.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1539214]Quite possibly the best first-time post ever!

I'm also glad to read that you took our advice and used JAD's services, definitely a wise decision. As you pointed out, he can both take you to the right places and can give you inside tips that you'd never figure out as a short-time visitor.

Only one minor point of disagreement. There would not have been any problem with the hotel if you showed up "with a waif looking girl who speaks hardly any English", the only possible problem might have been being seen by a co-worker, but the hotel would not have cared.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I know that the hotel wouldn't have minded about the girl; it just didn't feel right.

Lion55,

Are girls at Classic available for takeout and, if so, what is the price?

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1539316]Lion55,

Are girls at Classic available for takeout and, if so, what is the price?[/QUOTE]To Canyon.

I ask the Mamasan that a few time they told me no you might want to ask the girl directly if her can come to your hotel on her dayoff, I don't think you want to pay more than one juta for overnighter.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Canyon;1536280]I'm pretty demanding, so I'm willing to pay a bit more, if I really like the girl. One problem with bargaining real hard is that it can result in a lower level of service. If you don't pay her price, you can get a rushed service and of lower quality. I've found that I get much better service if the girl likes me and I'm paying a fair price. Tough bargaining can really spoil the mood. Here is an example of what I would do. .[/QUOTE]I don't agree that hard bargaining changes the mood. Atleast not in her mind. I tend to notice they are businessminded enough in indonesia not to make it a difference. If she accepts its almost always her price. Good looking seems to influence almost nothing. Being relaxed and smile and showing you are in no hurry seems to get acceptable negotiations. If it all seem to affect her mood it is just a playing card to make you reach for one bill more. How I see it. The bonus idea is interesting though. Thanks for sharing your style, I still haven't found one that works consistent for me.

[QUOTE=OmBule;1528814]She did something that I don't know how it worked. I was on my back. I think her hand was wrapped in a towel. She applied pressure to my ass several times with her knuckles. Along my legs and then putting pressure right there, on the prostate. Wow. Awesome.[/QUOTE]Yeh I love that outside prostate pressure too. Gives me an instant boner.

Speaking of prostate massage, I know from my time in Singapore a prostate massage can be easily be obtained and seems quite socially acceptable (in massage venues that is. But I don't seem to see any sign of a prostate massage available in Jakarta. Does anyone have any recommendations in Jakarta for this? Any MP's that offer the service?

And / or a good testicle rub is nice too, now I think of it. Now that's an artform when its done right.

Cheers HHM

[QUOTE=Lion55; 1539187]Longtime lurker, first time poster, so forgive any mistakes in abbreviations or style of report.

I recently spent a week in Jakarta with some hobby time available. .[/QUOTE]Great post. Keep up the good work.

Regards,

Ko

Hi,

I will be in Jakarta next week with some prospective corporate clients from Malaysia (aged 50+). Intend to take them out for some entertainment as it is their first time there. This is my rough plan, need some suggestions on places:

On the 1st night approx 1030pm, we will have a short business talk over drinks, before going for one round of play. The place shouldn't be too loud and have too many interruptions from mamasans / girls, but it should be clear to my clients that this is a place to have fun. Also, I will need to pick up the total tab, so payment should be to the establishment rather than directly to the girl (other than tips). Can be something like a spa, but there should be option to remain clothed in case they are conservative and don't feel comfortable enough to jump into a jacuzzi together.

On the 2nd day, we will have a longer business discussion in the late morning, followed by lunch. Prefer to have somewhere private, where we can talk first say for about an hour or 90 minutes, before lunch is served. It should be exclusive and posh.

2nd night, intend to take them to a place where they can pick up girls for the night. I will pay for drinks, but overnight activities will be on their own accounts. From what I read so far, I am probably looking at CJs or BATS, any other choices?

[QUOTE=Knightsky; 1542204]Hi,

I will be in Jakarta next week with some prospective corporate clients from Malaysia (aged 50+). Intend to take them out for some entertainment as it is their first time there. This is my rough plan, need some suggestions on places:

On the 1st night approx 1030pm, we will have a short business talk over drinks, before going for one round of play. The place shouldn't be too loud and have too many interruptions from mamasans / girls, but it should be clear to my clients that this is a place to have fun. Also, I will need to pick up the total tab, so payment should be to the establishment rather than directly to the girl (other than tips). Can be something like a spa, but there should be option to remain clothed in case they are conservative and don't feel comfortable enough to jump into a jacuzzi together.

On the 2nd day, we will have a longer business discussion in the late morning, followed by lunch. Prefer to have somewhere private, where we can talk first say for about an hour or 90 minutes, before lunch is served. It should be exclusive and posh.

2nd night, intend to take them to a place where they can pick up girls for the night. I will pay for drinks, but overnight activities will be on their own accounts. From what I read so far, I am probably looking at CJs or BATS, any other choices?[/QUOTE]Knightsky,

Had you been a regular poster (as oppose to this being your very first post) I'm sure you would have had a flood of responses by now. I will however try and give some small guidance with whatever little knowledge that I have. You haven't specified any budget so I'm assuming that your corporate entertainment has a rather flexible one. Perhaps you could either look at Alexis on your first night or, alternatively, perhaps a KTV Karaoke. Since you'd have your own room, you would be able to control the noise levels - at least until you all decide to up the fun level. As for your lunch, any of the upmarket hotels could cater to your needs (Ritz Carlton, Mulia, Kempinski, Grand Hyatt etc). It's also pleasant to sit in the Cafe in Plaza Indonesia at almost any time of day and have a discussion over coffee / tea and light food. If you look at CJs or BATS, do get a table booked so your clients have seats. Incidentally, it's easier to talk in BATS, but I tend to think that the way you sit at the low tables on the raised level in CJs lends for a more "endearing" view of the ladies. YMMV.

MD II

Guys,

I've booked my trip in after reading many posts here so thank you. Mid April I'll be in Jakarta staying at fx Harris senayan then Kemang icon (I'll write a report specifically about this one as I've seen it talked about here in the hotels thread).

Whatever has been said I like the vibe of Blok M. This time I'd like to try an alternate area. Is there anything up North similar to Blok M where I'd not feel like I stick out like a sore thumb? I'm not into the travel or classic hotel type places and like the idea of a few drinks (as we all do) and getting to know the girls. I prefer low end places so am trying avoid places like BATS.

I'm aware my hotel locations are good for red sq which I've had great fun in the past at and Kemang is not so far from blok m.

I'm 41 yr old Bule with no Bhasa skills.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you

Ps. During my trip I'll write up a report. It's my third time to Jakarta but have only recently been a member here.

[QUOTE=HappilyMarried; 1543514]Guys,

I've booked my trip in after reading many posts here so thank you. Mid April I'll be in Jakarta staying at fx Harris senayan then Kemang icon (I'll write a report specifically about this one as I've seen it talked about here in the hotels thread).

Whatever has been said I like the vibe of Blok M. This time I'd like to try an alternate area. Is there anything up North similar to Blok M where I'd not feel like I stick out like a sore thumb? I'm not into the travel or classic hotel type places and like the idea of a few drinks (as we all do) and getting to know the girls. I prefer low end places so am trying avoid places like BATS.

I'm aware my hotel locations are good for red sq which I've had great fun in the past at and Kemang is not so far from blok m.

I'm 41 yr old Bule with no Bhasa skills.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Ps. During my trip I'll write up a report. It's my third time to Jakarta but have only recently been a member here.[/QUOTE]North Jakarta is mostly knock shops like Travel, Malioboro, Classic, etc. There are discos like Golden Crown and Stadium, but they aren't really environments conducive to sitting and chatting up a girl. Especially if you don't speak bahasa.

If you are looking for low end places where the girls can speak some English, Blok M is the way to go. However, I find it odd that say you want to avoid high end places like Bats, yet you enjoy Red Square. I don't see a lot of difference between Red Square and Bats. There are a lot of the same girls in those 2 places. I consider Bats, Cjs, Red square, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and all of those type of places to be high end.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1543728]If you are looking for low end places where the girls can speak some English, Blok M is the way to go. However, I find it odd that say you want to avoid high end places like Bats, yet you enjoy Red Square. I don't see a lot of difference between Red Square and Bats. There are a lot of the same girls in those 2 places. I consider Bats, Cjs, Red square, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and all of those type of places to be high end.[/QUOTE]Hi Smoothy,

Thanks for the response. I guess in my mind I consider Reds a place to go where I can pick up a non paid girl as I have done on every occassion (granted, it was only 4 times so far!). Out of the places you've mentioned, BATS & CJs I've read here on the forum its mostly (if not all) P4P whereas I found Immigrant and DragonFly to be normal girls which too be honest when I'm in Jakarta and easier options surround me I couldn't be bothered with. Stunner or not, I don't like girls with attitude and avoid them. Red Square seemed to be a nice mix of the two with the last one I took from there I was convinced was a P4P but when I offered her money in the morning literally only wanted the taxi money of 70k to get back to her place. One thing I haven't quite mastered yet is distinguishing the party girls from the hookers at times! Amateur, I know.

But your advice noted. Thank you. I think I'll pop into BATs just to check it out on easter Saturday followed by Reds and always Blok M as a backup.

HappilyMarried

[QUOTE=HappilyMarried;1543906]I consider Reds a place to go where I can pick up a non paid girl as I have done on every occassion (granted, it was only 4 times so far!).[/QUOTE]That's almost amazing. Are you spending a fortune on drinks for these girls or something? I've never pulled a chick for free out of red square. You must have more game than me. Given that you pull freebies out of red square, you should try X2, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and Blowfish. (None of those are up north) Bats and Cjs are all hookers (like Blok M).

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1543987]That's almost amazing. Are you spending a fortune on drinks for these girls or something? I've never pulled a chick for free out of red square. You must have more game than me. Given that you pull freebies out of red square, you should try X2, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and Blowfish. (None of those are up north) Bats and Cjs are all hookers (like Blok M).[/QUOTE]If he can go to Red Square on any given day and pick up "on any occasion" with the girls knowing full well the guy is simply here on holiday (based on the fact he is staying in a hotel) , not a long-term expat, then he must be filthy rich or look like Tom Cruise.

[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1544071]If he can go to Red Square on any given day and pick up "on any occasion" with the girls knowing full well the guy is simply here on holiday (based on the fact he is staying in a hotel) , not a long-term expat, then he must be filthy rich or look like Tom Cruise.[/QUOTE]I'm certainly no Tom Cruise or filthy rich (but I'm not poor). On the occasions I've been there I've been in a small group with a mix of local girls and my ex pat friends. My scores have been with the girl who managed the table reservations there (I won't name her) and a few nights later her friend. The other two were with girls the group befriended on the night. This is why in my initial post I tried to point out the difference between red sq and places like bats due to my experience there. And yes, I still end up paying whether it's in the morning or buying drinks.

Agree with Smoothy, BlokM is probably at the lower end of the spectrum if you want to communicate in English at ease.

Probably lower than that is Jl Jaksa and Wahid Haysim bars, large bintangs 30k. But its a diverse crowd of expats who been in Asia far too long, hookers, guys from Africa, old ugly girls, PNG alcoholics, drug dealers, ladyboys. Anyway, if your a backpacker at heart its fine.

PS. Bats last week. 1 large beer was 125k (thats inc the tax). Ouch.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1543728]North Jakarta is mostly knock shops like Travel, Malioboro, Classic, etc. There are discos like Golden Crown and Stadium, but they aren't really environments conducive to sitting and chatting up a girl. Especially if you don't speak bahasa.

If you are looking for low end places where the girls can speak some English, Blok M is the way to go. However, I find it odd that say you want to avoid high end places like Bats, yet you enjoy Red Square. I don't see a lot of difference between Red Square and Bats. There are a lot of the same girls in those 2 places. I consider Bats, Cjs, Red square, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and all of those type of places to be high end.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KnightSky; 1542204]Hi,

I will be in Jakarta next week with some prospective corporate clients from Malaysia (aged 50+). Intend to take them out for some entertainment as it is their first time there. This is my rough plan, need some suggestions on places:

On the 1st night approx 1030pm, we will have a short business talk over drinks, before going for one round of play. The place shouldn't be too loud and have too many interruptions from mamasans / girls, but it should be clear to my clients that this is a place to have fun. Also, I will need to pick up the total tab, so payment should be to the establishment rather than directly to the girl (other than tips). Can be something like a spa, but there should be option to remain clothed in case they are conservative and don't feel comfortable enough to jump into a jacuzzi together.

On the 2nd day, we will have a longer business discussion in the late morning, followed by lunch. Prefer to have somewhere private, where we can talk first say for about an hour or 90 minutes, before lunch is served. It should be exclusive and posh.

2nd night, intend to take them to a place where they can pick up girls for the night. I will pay for drinks, but overnight activities will be on their own accounts. From what I read so far, I am probably looking at CJs or BATS, any other choices?[/QUOTE]KnightSky.

My advice for the first night where you pay is to go to Hotel Alexis. You can sit around a table and talk, as it's fairly quiet. The girls are in the background. Different groups of girls sit together by nationality: Chinese, Vietnamese, Indonesian, etc. Your clients can remain dressed and talk and drink or they can go to the room with a girl if they like. You can also ask for a line-up of the girls to come to your table. For the night on their own, BATS is the best, but the music is too loud to talk, so go there when you're ready to pick. They also have a lounge at the Shangri-La Hotel where you can talk before going to BATS.

[QUOTE=HappilyMarried;1544325]I'm certainly no Tom Cruise or filthy rich (but I'm not poor). On the occasions I've been there I've been in a small group with a mix of local girls and my ex pat friends. My scores have been with the girl who managed the table reservations there (I won't name her) and a few nights later her friend. The other two were with girls the group befriended on the night. This is why in my initial post I tried to point out the difference between red sq and places like bats due to my experience there. And yes, I still end up paying whether it's in the morning or buying drinks.[/QUOTE]If you have a group of expat friends who regularly book a table at red square buying bottles of alcohol and are well known there, that's a big advantage. Especially if they have local girlfriends and are known to treat those girls "royally". In that case, the girls will see you as a prime target since you are their friend. That's a big difference between going there alone and milking a beer all night.

Another place that isn't too bad is the bar at the JW Marriott. Sometimes that place has nice girls out for a good time and it's normally fairly crowded on the weekend and ladies night after 11pm.

My experience in Red Square is that its mostly a hooker joint. If you want normal girls, rarely do you find them there.

I travel atleast 15 times a year for work in Jakarta and hit BATS every night (easy and safe). Glad to report that over-nighters are always available at 1mn. No need to pay over that. Only once have I spent 1. 5mn but that was for a university party girl. And I NEVER choose the older / fat ones.

Was there 2 weeks back and did the usual rounds of the club. One petite hot girl in a red dress was the one who attracted me. She wanted 2 mn. No way.

More rounds at around 1 AM, asked her what she wanted to do. Offered her 1 mn and off we went to my room. Good sex. Speaks great English and had a French boy-friend. She had said that she was from Bali but now said that she is from the very east of Java. Don't remember the name.

Good figure with nice small tits and good performance. Only problem was that she did not perform in the morning. She said that I did not ask for it in the club. My fault! Anyway, since it was not agreed, off she went.

Once again. 1 mn for a reasonably good looking girl is the max you should pat at BATS. I have pulled for even 600K. I am not the price police (I hate that) and if you are happy to spend a couple of mill, then that's your choice.

Cheers,

McM.

P. S. Why is the board so quiet

Hi,

I will be visiting Jakarta next month. I wanted t know if Hotel Santika Taman Mini is a Girl friendly hotel. Is jakarta similar to pataya where you can take the girl straight to your room without informing anyone or do you have to inform the front desk about it. Also can anyone suggest a nice place to find girls in that area.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Freque; 1548125]Hi,

I will be visiting Jakarta next month. I wanted to know if Hotel Santika Taman Mini is a Girl friendly hotel. Is Jakarta similar to Pattaya where you can take the girl straight to your room without informing anyone or do you have to inform the front desk about it. Also can anyone suggest a nice place to find girls in that area.

Cheers[/QUOTE]RTFF and you'll quickly learn that virtually every hotel in Jakarta is girl-friendly, no need to inform the front desk about anything.

A nice place to find girls in that area? Unfortunately, your hotel is not located close to any of the best mongering spots. The classic pick-up spots (Red Square, CJ's at Hotel Mulia, BATS at the Hotel Shangri-La) are all quite a distance from the Taman Mini area. There are a lot of bars and clubs in the Kemang area, which is a bit closer, but still a decent taxi ride away.

You're a long, long way away from the places in the northern part of town, such as Hotel Alexis, Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic, Malioboro, plus Kartika Spa, Berlian Spa, the Stadium Night Club (risky!) , etc.

Don't underestimate Jakarta traffic. You could be in a taxi cab for an hour or more each way, depending on what time of day you're travelling.

Just curious. Why did you pick this hotel? It's obviously close to the well-known tourist attraction Taman Mini Indonesia, but it's nowhere near downtown. It's on the way to Bogor, if you have business there.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1548251]RTFF and you'll quickly learn that virtually every hotel in Jakarta is girl-friendly, no need to inform the front desk about anything.

A nice place to find girls in that area? Unfortunately, your hotel is not located close to any of the best mongering spots. The classic pick-up spots (Red Square, CJ's at Hotel Mulia, BATS at the Hotel Shangri-La) are all quite a distance from the Taman Mini area. There are a lot of bars and clubs in the Kemang area, which is a bit closer, but still a decent taxi ride away.

You're a long, long way away from the places in the northern part of town, such as Hotel Alexis, Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic, Malioboro, plus Kartika Spa, Berlian Spa, the Stadium Night Club (risky!) , etc.

Don't underestimate Jakarta traffic. You could be in a taxi cab for an hour or more each way, depending on what time of day you're travelling.

Just curious. Why did you pick this hotel? It's obviously close to the well-known tourist attraction Taman Mini Indonesia, but it's nowhere near downtown. It's on the way to Bogor, if you have business there.[/QUOTE]Hi Mighty Spearsman,

Actually my client had suggested that place. His office is in Bogor and I would have to go Bogor everyday. Any suggestion about where or which hotel I should stay so that I could easily travel to the office and enjoy the evening also. I guess I am asking for too much but can't help as I am new to this place.

[QUOTE=Freque; 1548351]Hi Mighty Spearsman,

Actually my client had suggested that place. His office is in Bogor and I would have to go Bogor everyday. Any suggestion about where or which hotel I should stay so that I could easily travel to the office and enjoy the evening also. I guess I am asking for too much but can't help as I am new to this place.[/QUOTE]Possibly hotels in Kemang could work for you. Yes you will need to add a little bit more for the commute to Bogor. But you have choice of Kemang bars / pubs and also being close to BlokM.

As Spearsman said. Taman Mini / Halim area has nothing going on and will add a decent commute to the popular bars you mention, and a very long way from Nth Jakarta.

[QUOTE=OmBule; 1535939]I have a question for those here in the republic for the long-haul: Do you find it better to tone up or tone down your local savvy when playing the game?

I have some profiles on social networking sites where I completed the "about me" section in Indonesian (although my Indonesian is meh, maybe). And I've noticed that since I've done that, I've got less replies. Or more Zzzzz nicey-nice girl replies.

Similarly, I wear batik, which goes over well professionally. And I think that the ladies go huh, om bule, and walk on by.

It's like I'm too local, with all of the negative things that that implies. When I wear Western dress, it feels different.

So I am thinking: I should tone down the localness, maybe pretend to be passing through. Simplify the social media profile with only a dash of local language and bust out the Sundanese, gaul and Javanese (mongo!) later.

I wonder how long-haul residents have changed their game over the long haul. And I wonder if it is just me getting to reflective and melancholy as I get older.

PS Thank you to the members like Hilo77 and AsianRain, who had kind words about my last report. And thanks everyone for the information on the board.[/QUOTE]As someone who's spent a total of over 3 years in Indonesia, just passing thru, I don't see any need to tone anything down. Speaking the language has a lot of advantages. There are plenty of girls with very poor or non-existent English who tag along with friends who do speak English. If they can't find someone who wants 2 girls they're left out in the cold. When they find someone who speaks Indonesian they're delighted (even if, like me, you're not that far off hitting the big 60. Though, thank god, Asian girls don't seem to have cottoned on to the fact that a lot of grey hair is an indication that senility is not so far away). They're generally not as demanding and don't have the airs and graces of some of the English speakers who think that you're demeaning them if you offer a normal rate or refuse to buy them a juta rupiah dress. If you come across 2 of them together they'll probably be happy to go together for just a little more than the cost of one on her own (had 2 for 600 000 recently). I also wear a fair amount of batik (Western clothes are just too hot when you've recently come from a much colder place) and have never had any negative reaction from it. To them you're just a bule wearing batik. I wear whatever I want, even to business meetings, and it doesn't make a scrap of difference. Once ate Padang in a company boardroom pake tangan. Firstly, they were relieved that I wasn't a fussy bule who needed to be taken to a western restaurant, and they were tickled pink that the bule was eating pake tangan while they were all eating pake sendok.

I am looking for some information for a horny little female friend of mine. We were talking about me going to ++ massage places, and she asked me where she could go to get a similar service. I have no idea, and while it might be a long shot asking here, who knows what you fellow mongers might know.

Anybody have any insight as to where the females in this city go to get some naughty massage service?

[QUOTE=Ceegee; 1549205]I am looking for some information for a horny little female friend of mine. We were talking about me going to ++ massage places, and she asked me where she could go to get a similar service. I have no idea, and while it might be a long shot asking here, who knows what you fellow mongers might know.

Anybody have any insight as to where the females in this city go to get some naughty massage service?[/QUOTE]A massage place to service women? I don't think there is such a place like that in town. However, if you really want your girlfriend to get drilled by some massage guy, you could go to Red Square or Sun City and ask one of the sexy dancer chicks there for a phone number of one of the male dancers who also duals as a gigolo. I'm sure he would be happy to come to your place and massage and screw your girl for a fee if you want. Another way to find those kind of guys is the personal trainers in the gyms around town. Many of those guys work as strippers for parties and ultimately gigolos if the ladies slip them an extra tip. I know this because I used to date some of the sexy dancer chicks over the years and have talked to some of those guys and listened to their stories, not because I have ever paid them to screw my girlfriends.

[QUOTE=Ceegee; 1549205]I am looking for some information for a horny little female friend of mine. We were talking about me going to ++ massage places, and she asked me where she could go to get a similar service. I have no idea, and while it might be a long shot asking here, who knows what you fellow mongers might know.

Anybody have any insight as to where the females in this city go to get some naughty massage service?[/QUOTE]Are you looking for your girlfriend to get ++ service from a guy or another girl? If you're looking for your girlfriend to enjoy some girl-on-girl action, several spas, such as Maribaya, have a couple of truly bisexual girls working there. Some of the girls working the night club scene may also be bisexual (or lesbians who are just trying to make money).

Esteemed Senior Member Smoothy has some good suggestions. Another option is to contact Jakarta After Dark (JAD) ; if any one knows the answer to your question, it will be him. JAD is an advertiser and long-time member of this board (his member name is "Jkt After Dark 2"); go to the Classified Ads section and go to the "last" (earliest) posts and you'll find his contact info.

Good luck! And I look forward to reading a post from you if you have any success.

Thanks Smoothy and Spearsman for the responses.

Good point on the male or female MS, I did not think of that, I will find out and it could go either way with her, she is into pretty much everything.

So there would be no issues taking her into a place like Maribaya? That could be kind of fun.

I will definitely report back if anything happens. Not sure how far this will go, she says she is from an important respectable family and does not like to be seen entering or leaving hotels with me which is an interesting role reversal.

[QUOTE=Lion55;1539187]For fellow members who might want to try out Ainee (or Jali, as I'd recommend both) , their Mamasan had them situated (at least the week that I was there) , in the right hand corner of the room from where you enter the club, near the door that goes back to the bedrooms on that side. If you happen to spend a session with either of them, treat them well. I expect that you don't find a GFE at Classic every day.[/QUOTE]If I remember right, Classic has 3 levels (basement, level 2 and level 5). Which level was this? Planning to visit later this week.

[QUOTE=Ceegee; 1549205]I am looking for some information for a horny little female friend of mine. We were talking about me going to ++ massage places, and she asked me where she could go to get a similar service. I have no idea, and while it might be a long shot asking here, who knows what you fellow mongers might know.

Anybody have any insight as to where the females in this city go to get some naughty massage service?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ceegee; 1549464]Thanks Smoothy and Spearsman for the responses.

Good point on the male or female MS, I did not think of that, I will find out and it could go either way with her, she is into pretty much everything.

So there would be no issues taking her into a place like Maribaya? That could be kind of fun.

I will definitely report back if anything happens. Not sure how far this will go, she says she is from an important respectable family and does not like to be seen entering or leaving hotels with me which is an interesting role reversal.[/QUOTE]It sounds like your friend is looking for good discreet fun. I'm sure there are several members willing to go the extra mile and provide a massage:p - or perhaps she was hinting for you to give her a massage?;)

I can understand the issue of entering hotels and a major issue is that she doesn't want to be seen by people she may know. You need to look at what hotel you go to and who frequents that hotel. It becomes much more difficult if she has a high profile. That's where alternative entrances make a difference. Eg Citadines can be entered through the rumah sakit; Akmani can be accessed directly from the car park avoiding the reception area; Ritz Carlton through Pacific Place; Harris through FX; Hyatt and Kempinski similarly through their respective shopping malls. I've run through this kind of problem many times and there's always a solution. Of course, I've also had the old baseball cap and big sunglasses routine too:D.

MD II

[QUOTE=HardHatMat; 1548397]Possibly hotels in Kemang could work for you. Yes you will need to add a little bit more for the commute to Bogor. But you have choice of Kemang bars / pubs and also being close to BlokM.

As Spearsman said. Taman Mini / Halim area has nothing going on and will add a decent commute to the popular bars you mention, and a very long way from Nth Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Hi,

How good is Fav hotel and can you suggest a good place in a walkable distance around Fav hotel where I can find some good girls to pickup.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Freque; 1549741]Hi,

How good is Fav hotel and can you suggest a good place in a walkable distance around Fav hotel where I can find some good girls to pickup.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Which Fave hotel are you referring to? Their website lists 9 of them.

Lower priced, clean, but nothing fancy.

The fave hotels at Glodok and Pasar Baru are near the North Jakarta monger area (Alexis, Malioboro, Travel, Classic close by).

Fave hotel at Melawai very near the Blok M area; Fave at Kemang and Gatot Subroto not too far off. The Senayan area (Red Square etc.) also not too far.

Personally, I prefer to pick up bad girls. Good girls don't want to be picked up.

[QUOTE=Freque; 1549741]Hi,

How good is Fav hotel and can you suggest a good place in a walkable distance around Fav hotel where I can find some good girls to pickup.

Cheers[/QUOTE]FaveHotel Pasar Baru is excellent value for money. Neat & clean.

About a 15 minute walk from the great Classic Hotel (3 floors of working girls).

[QUOTE=SailSingapore; 1549882]FaveHotel Pasar Baru is excellent value for money. Neat & clean.

About a 15 minute walk from the great Classic Hotel (3 floors of working girls).[/QUOTE]I think he's referring to Fave Hotel in Kemang.

MD II

[QUOTE=OmBule; 1528814]I visited Medika, Classic Spa and Scorpion recently. Here follows a field report.

And then I remembered dangdut.

Oh yeah, my original mission.

III Permata / Skorpion.

Fin[/QUOTE]Great report. And thanks, brought back memories of times in Jakarta (97-2002) when there were a bunch of interesting dangdut bars. Bintang in Blok M, Pangheghar and Sinagar at the Tebet / Pasar Rumput area, a big bunch on Daan Mogot plus half a dozen at Blora. Most of them seem to have withered away, the last two times in Jakarta I didn't even bother to look around.

From a quick google search looks like the scene is still pretty low key. Will check out Skorpion and the Blora area, also saw one called Istana Dangdut in Angke and one at the Mega Matra Hotel. If anyone knows of others and can recommend, thanks in advance; planning to visit this week + weekend.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1549916]I think he's referring to Fave Hotel in Kemang.

MD II[/QUOTE]Hi Master Diver,

Yes I am asking about the Fave Hotel in Kemang. Hope this would be a good place to find girls around.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Freque; 1549741]Hi,

How good is Fav hotel and can you suggest a good place in a walkable distance around Fav hotel where I can find some good girls to pickup.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Hi Freque. There are bars aplenty near that hotel, but I'm not a Kemang expert. You are, however, within a short taxi ride from Blok M. In Jakarta,"short taxi ride" is a relative description, because traffic jams are common. It might, for example, take 45 minutes or more to get from that location (the Fav Hotel) to Blok M (I'm not totally ignorant of Kemang). Also, the street where Fav Hotel is located is one-way, if my memory serves me, and that can add minutes to a return taxi ride. Good luck! TTG

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1549941]Hi Freque. There are bars aplenty near that hotel, but I'm not a Kemang expert. You are, however, within a short taxi ride from Blok M. In Jakarta,"short taxi ride" is a relative description, because traffic jams are common. It might, for example, take 45 minutes or more to get from that location (the Fav Hotel) to Blok M (I'm not totally ignorant of Kemang). Also, the street where Fav Hotel is located is one-way, if my memory serves me, and that can add minutes to a return taxi ride. Good luck! TTG[/QUOTE]I've had the experience in Jakarta to get a Taxi and it take 20 minutes to get there and over a hour to get back.

RL

[QUOTE=Robert Long; 1549957]I've had the experience in Jakarta to get a Taxi and it take 20 minutes to get there and over a hour to get back.

RL[/QUOTE]Depends on the time of day and which day it is. At 5pm on a Friday, it could take almost 2 hours to get to Blok M from there.

I post 4 or 5 pictures of knock-out women posing nude, with nary a comment. But mention TRAFFIC in Jakarta and the comments roll out! LOL, that's our fair city.

Has anyone had experience around the National Monument area? I'm visiting next week and think that this may be an alternative haunt to the usual bar scene, or even a daytime excursion. Any insights welcome!

I'll let you know how it goes. Or doesn't if turns nothing up!

Appreciated the pics, Timtim. Wasn't that a Maribaya girl you were posting? Wasn't sure why you wouldn't show her face. I wouldn't know who to take at Maribaya just from the body pics.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1550020]I post 4 or 5 pictures of knock-out women posing nude, with nary a comment. But mention TRAFFIC in Jakarta and the comments roll out! LOL, that's our fair city.[/QUOTE]Nope. Not the city. K O Women are a dime a dozen on this forum. Traffic is unusual.

[QUOTE=Lucky 7; 1550056]Has anyone had experience around the National Monument area? I'm visiting next week and think that this may be an alternative haunt to the usual bar scene, or even a daytime excursion. Any insights welcome!

I'll let you know how it goes. Or doesn't if turns nothing up![/QUOTE]I was once picked up at Taman Fatahillah by a quite attractive and very horny lady.

On the way to my hotel in a taxi she couldn't keep her hands off me. Nice and very satisfying in my room.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Lucky 7; 1550056]Has anyone had experience around the National Monument area? I'm visiting next week and think that this may be an alternative haunt to the usual bar scene, or even a daytime excursion. Any insights welcome!

I'll let you know how it goes. Or doesn't if turns nothing up![/QUOTE]I'm also going to stay in this area in few months. Due to its central location and relative convenience to the north (Hotel Classic / Terminal) and clubs that aren't too too far (BATS / CJs) at least at night when traffic eases slightly. Wasn't thinking of the location in these terms however, just as a convenient "base" to explore nightlife both to the north and south.

[QUOTE=Freque; 1549936]Hi Master Diver,

Yes I am asking about the Fave Hotel in Kemang. Hope this would be a good place to find girls around.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Kemang has mainly normal bars barring maybe Eastern Promise (I'm not sure I got the name right) which a friend told me might have possibilities. OTOH if you're in the dating scene, it's quite often easier to meet up with the girls in Kemang. Food abounds within walking distance, and the alcohol is a lot cheaper than the hotel bars by a country mile. If you're younger and decent looking, you can do well in Kemang. Otherwise Blok M isn't far but as the others said, it does depend on the time of day. Of course since the Blok M bars only really get started very late (go well after 11pm IMHO) I don't think you'll get hit with the traffic quite so badly unless it gets flooded. Since you're going to be having work in Bogor, I guess you'll be used to sitting in a taxi for a long time. For massage places, there are a range of massage places in Grand Wijaya (not far from Blok M either) which cater to a variety of massage and "other needs".

MD II

[QUOTE=Freque; 1549936]Hi Master Diver,

Yes I am asking about the Fave Hotel in Kemang. Hope this would be a good place to find girls around.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Freque,

I have regular meetings in Bogor and I always use them as an excuse to stay in Kota or Pasar Baru (Gambir Station). The reason being is that there are very good air conditioned trains up to 4 per hour at these stations that run to Bogor Station in just over an hour without traffic jams. Most of the action is around these rail stations in the Centre and North of Jakarta.

You'll get a flavour of Jakarta around Kota, whereas Kemang has turned itself into a pretty mundane stockbroker belt type suburb. If you were attracted to the Fave Kemang because of the roof-top pool. It's soaked in chlorine. But having aired my thoughts. Girls can be found anywhere in Jakarta as I recently picked one up on her way home from work at the bus stop near that Fave Hotel in Kemang.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1550218]I was once picked up at Taman Fatahillah by a quite attractive and very horny lady.

On the way to my hotel in a taxi she couldn't keep her hands off me. Nice and very satisfying in my room.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Wow! You picked up at the History Museum! That's a great way to explore multiple cultural experiences! I'll give the area a go & report back!

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1550374]Kemang has mainly normal bars barring maybe Eastern Promise (I'm not sure I got the name right) which a friend told me might have possibilities. <SNIP

MD II[/QUOTE]You got the name right. Eastern Promise is one of the multiple venues started by Bartele Santema (the well known Bule Gila from Bugils). EP is what you want it to be. It is popular with the straight expat crowd who just want to have a drink and / or a meal with their wife in the front bar and restaurant but I understand that in the rear bar there are serious pick up possibilities in the weekend. I quite like it for just getting pleasantly sloshed once in a while.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1550910]You got the name right. Eastern Promise is one of the multiple venues started by Bartele Santema (the well known Bule Gila from Bugils). EP is what you want it to be. It is popular with the straight expat crowd who just want to have a drink and / or a meal with their wife in the front bar and restaurant but I understand that in the rear bar there are serious pick up possibilities in the weekend. I quite like it for just getting pleasantly sloshed once in a while.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]You're right, on weekdays, it is a straight expat restaurant and bar. No local girls waiting to be picked up. In fact, if you don't have a drinking buddy, its pretty boring on a weekday. On weekends with the live music, it can be a blast.

Went to Millenium Disco at 11 pm. Rp 50K cover which includes a bottle of water. The place was quite empty. As I walked in looking a little lost as it was my first time, two girls came up to me and asked me my name. Since I was alone, I chatted with them and bought them drinks. Quite pleasant and fun chatting with one on each side and cuddling. Then one girl asked me for Rp400K to buy extacy for all of us. They said we could party all night. This was a real turn off. I am not into drugs, and would never consider it in a new place in a foreign city. I tried to dissuade them but they were persistent. Told them I was more into cewek than drugs and they suggested we could go to my hotel first then party all night. By this time, I was turned off. Realizing I was not going back with them, they said they would find me another girl of my choice. It was getting late and I had a flight the next day so I ditched them and went back to my hotel.

The place is interesting and my impression it would be easy to pick up wild girls who are looking for a party. I don't think they are working girls like in Top Gun in Blok M but more just out for a good time. I will probably go back but better to go when you can start at 1 am or so.

[QUOTE=Yomama99;1551136]You're right, on weekdays, it is a straight expat restaurant and bar. No local girls waiting to be picked up. In fact, if you don't have a drinking buddy, its pretty boring on a weekday. On weekends with the live music, it can be a blast.[/QUOTE]It has been be picking up as a venue recently. Last Wednesday staying late, there where some hot looking, available Cewek (girls) in the front bar and it felt a bit like the blok M bars. But on weekdays, yes, pick-up possibilities are quite limited and where the blok M bars are a sure bet for pulling girls, Eastern Promise is not. The rear bar opens on weekends when there are live bands, available ayam tends to be slightly older (35 plus).

I have seen the pointed out girls in front of Fave hotel, but I think they are only there sporadically, hardly ever. Lone girls trying there luck in hunting tourist bule. If there's one, they sometimes sit at that little warung opposite the hotel's main entrance. "kemang pizza pasta" (if I remember the name correctly) offering massage around 9-10pm.

[QUOTE=Yomama99; 1551150]Went to Millenium Disco at 11 pm. Rp 50K cover which includes a bottle of water. The place was quite empty. As I walked in looking a little lost as it was my first time, two girls came up to me and asked me my name. Since I was alone, I chatted with them and bought them drinks. Quite pleasant and fun chatting with one on each side and cuddling. Then one girl asked me for Rp400K to buy extacy for all of us. They said we could party all night. This was a real turn off. I am not into drugs, and would never consider it in a new place in a foreign city. I tried to dissuade them but they were persistent. Told them I was more into cewek than drugs and they suggested we could go to my hotel first then party all night. By this time, I was turned off. Realizing I was not going back with them, they said they would find me another girl of my choice. It was getting late and I had a flight the next day so I ditched them and went back to my hotel.

The place is interesting and my impression it would be easy to pick up wild girls who are looking for a party. I don't think they are working girls like in Top Gun in Blok M but more just out for a good time. I will probably go back but better to go when you can start at 1 am or so.[/QUOTE]Smart move! The potential for bad things happening would have risen exponentially if you had given them money to buy extacy / extasy. As a stranger in a foreign city, it's just not worth the risk.

Went to Malio club last week while in Jakarta. Entry fee around Rp 160K which does not include any drinks. Sat myself by the stage and watched the show. Two skimp clothed girls came up to me and asked me to buy them drinks. Each drink costs Rp 50K and you have to buy two. The drinks are just shot glasses with soda in them. Before I could say no. They had their drinks and were sitting on my lap. Can't say I objected as they were very cute. The stage girls were stunners. 9 and 10s. It was all it was reported to be with topless and briefs episodes of full topless and bottomless. The girls were so beautiful and had great bodies. Music was pretty good too. Girl DJs and the music was not too loud. The scene was pretty upscale. Lots of people on the Friday night. All the girls are employed by the club. No FLs. And you can't take girls out by paying a bar fine.

Few more girls came by and asked for drinks. I am a sucker. What can I say? It was worth it. After a couple of hours, I had racked up Rp 500K and decided I better leave. It was worth it. Few beers, nice show, and good music.

Just came out of Hotel Travel which I last visited about two years ago.

Not many customers when I arrived. 5 or 6 groups of of about 15 girls in each group sitting on the left side as you come in. Mixed groups of big, small, good looking and so so girls. A good selection for everybody's taste.

Mamasans are very pushy and it did not take more than 30 seconds after I walked in that one of the mamas already pushed a girl to me saying that she speaks good English. Did I come to Travel to have a great conversation on English? Anyway, she was kind enough and smiling, rather on the heavy side and willing to chat, which I did for a couple of minutes before sending er back. Not my taste.

Walked around to look at the display, but the pushy mama kept sending me one after the other. With finally a good looking slim girl was brought forward. A good 8 in the looks and friendly with enough of basic English to have some small talk. Paid her a drink and she asked whether she could bring her friend to a 3some. I am not really into that, but then I thought why not and off she went to get her friend. Surprise, surprise. Even better looking and a solid 9 in the looks. Paid her a drink as well and we sat together on a sofa to warm up a bit. And what was going to come looked promising.

Indeed, they did not disappoint. Perfect bodies, willing to please, fun to be with. The "friend" actually seemed to be rather new to the business and was a bit directed by the other one. Started with the one I picked, took her in different positions, but somehow it did not really click. Switched to the "friend" and she was really into it and seemed to enjoy being f. The in different positions. Ended up in a long doggy and when the deed was done, she said "very good mister".

Definitely a recommended duo for a nice 3some.

Names: Cipa and Diana, first group on the left side as you walk in. Damage 525. 000 for the pair + drinks and well deserved tips.

Would definitely look out for them if I return to Travel.

[quote=yomama99; 1551150]went to millenium disco at 11 pm. rp 50k cover which includes a bottle of water. the place was quite empty. as i walked in looking a little lost as it was my first time, two girls came up to me and asked me my name. since i was alone, i chatted with them and bought them drinks. quite pleasant and fun chatting with one on each side and cuddling. then one girl asked me for rp400k to buy extacy for all of us. they said we could party all night. this was a real turn off. i am not into drugs, and would never consider it in a new place in a foreign city. i tried to dissuade them but they were persistent. told them i was more into cewek than drugs and they suggested we could go to my hotel first then party all night. by this time, i was turned off. realizing i was not going back with them, they said they would find me another girl of my choice. it was getting late and i had a flight the next day so i ditched them and went back to my hotel.

the place is interesting and my impression it would be easy to pick up wild girls who are looking for a party. i don't think they are working girls like in top gun in blok m but more just out for a good time. i will probably go back but better to go when you can start at 1 am or so.[/quote]to yomama.

the disco in jarkata don't get going until after midnight most girl ask you for money for drug and you don't see them again, i like royal crown at glodok and millie at lokasri plaza for pick up girl at the stadium are mostly **** and on drugs.

fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Yomama99; 1551642]Went to Malio club last week while in Jakarta. Entry fee around Rp 160K which does not include any drinks. Sat myself by the stage and watched the show. Two skimp clothed girls came up to me and asked me to buy them drinks. Each drink costs Rp 50K and you have to buy two. The drinks are just shot glasses with soda in them. Before I could say no. They had their drinks and were sitting on my lap. Can't say I objected as they were very cute. The stage girls were stunners. 9 and 10s. It was all it was reported to be with topless and briefs episodes of full topless and bottomless. The girls were so beautiful and had great bodies. Music was pretty good too. Girl DJs and the music was not too loud. The scene was pretty upscale. Lots of people on the Friday night. All the girls are employed by the club. No FLs. And you can't take girls out by paying a bar fine.

Few more girls came by and asked for drinks. I am a sucker. What can I say? It was worth it. After a couple of hours, I had racked up Rp 500K and decided I better leave. It was worth it. Few beers, nice show, and good music.[/QUOTE]To Yomama.

The Maliboro club is a rip off now with the new entry fee for 500k you can go to Hotel travel, hotel classic and most brothel in Panjay get FS for 350k.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1552417]To Yomama.

The Maliboro club is a rip off now with the new entry fee for 500k you can go to Hotel travel, hotel classic and most brothel in Panjay get FS for 350k.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Looks like you're the one getting ripped off. None of the Panjay places are 350k and Malioboro never imposed a 500k entry fee.

[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1552456]Looks like you're the one getting ripped off. None of the Panjay places are 350k and Malioboro never imposed a 500k entry fee.[/QUOTE]Am never quite sure if FE48 is a real person, a highly trained parrot that has learned to write or is just some automated computer sitting in a back room somwhere programmed to randomly regurgitate bland sentences that everybody knows already.

Come on FE48, tell us all some wild story about some real pussy that you bonked. Maybe really get really funky and post a photo. Or is it all just the secret life of Walter Mitty?

OS

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1552655]Am never quite sure if FE48 is a real person, a highly trained parrot that has learned to write or is just some automated computer sitting in a back room somwhere programmed to randomly regurgitate bland sentences that everybody knows already.

OS[/QUOTE]I must admit that his remarks on girls asking money for drugs are spot on. I have been to millennium many times and girls do ask you money to buy drugs. They call it "on", mau on mister (want to get high) and they don't buy it or they're gone. It's a great place to go with a buddy and have a drink. On Saturday evening it is always packed and I never feel not safe even I am the only bule there.

MarkIII

[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1552456]Looks like you're the one getting ripped off. None of the Panjay places are 350k and Malioboro never imposed a 500k entry fee.[/QUOTE]To EGY.

I never said entry fee is 500k Yomama pay that total amount included drink I know how much the entry fee is do you, read my post again before you make any comment sorry for your lack of knowledge.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1552655]Am never quite sure if FE48 is a real person, a highly trained parrot that has learned to write or is just some automated computer sitting in a back room somwhere programmed to randomly regurgitate bland sentences that everybody knows already.

Come on FE48, tell us all some wild story about some real pussy that you bonked. Maybe really get really funky and post a photo. Or is it all just the secret life of Walter Mitty?

OS[/QUOTE]I agree with you that it is highly doubtful if Eddie has ever left the safety of his keyboard. Zero field reports and zero photos. Just poorly spelled and even more poorly punctuated comments on other members' posts. Maybe it's time for some minimum requirements for members, like a minimum amount of FR's and / or pictures per year (only originals of course). It is equally doubtful whether he understands what you mean by your Walter Mitty comment. "Whoosh" over his head, "Splat" against the wall behind him :-)

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1552655]Am never quite sure if FE48 is a real person, a highly trained parrot that has learned to write or is just some automated computer sitting in a back room somwhere programmed to randomly regurgitate bland sentences that everybody knows already.

Come on FE48, tell us all some wild story about some real pussy that you bonked. Maybe really get really funky and post a photo. Or is it all just the secret life of Walter Mitty?

OS[/QUOTE]To OF / KO.

Are you one of those Old Fogy like KO with nothing better to do or just Jealous that I get to travel all over the world sample all the good.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1554055]To OF / KO.

Are you one of those Old Fogy like KO with nothing better to do or just Jealous that I get to travel all over the world sample all the good.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]No on the contrary FE 48, I am really happy that you get to go round the world, even if it is your own special one.

I was in Jakarta for a few days last month and managed to get in some action. I posted previously about an earlier visit, particularly my luck in finding good GFE at Hotel Classic. I arrived on a Saturday afternoon and texted the chick (Ainee) who I had seen at Classic a couple of times on my previous visit and let her know that I was in town again. I was tired from a long flight and didn't feel like venturing out to Classic that night so I told her I would come see her on Sunday. I was planning to just turn in early on Saturday to try to get over the jet lag, but as often happens I woke up after a few hours (at about 1:00 am) , felt wide awake, and was feeling quite horny.

I decided to head down to CJs (I was staying at the Mulia, so it was quite convenient). I walked in and immediately ran into a Mongolian chick who I'd banged on my previous trip. She looked rather pissed off when I blew her off (as per my previous report my experience with her was only OK and I really had no interest I repeating). I sat down at the bar in the back of the room to survey what was available. I tall chick with shoulder length curly hair caught my eye and came over to me when I smiled at her. Turned out she was a 31 year old, by the name of Sulis from somewhere in Western Java. Her english was excellent and we bantered a bit before agreeing on Rp 1 million for two hours including multiple pops. We headed up to my room and as soon as we were inside she pulled me towards her and gave me a really nice kiss. I responded in kind and we soon had our tongues deep inside each other's mouths. We broke off after after a few minutes and I suggested a shower together. She agreed and began to disrobe. She had a stunner of a body. Not overly thin, but not at all fat either. Nicely shaped breasts with raisin like nipples and sort of an elongated ass which I found very sexy. We continued the DFKing in the shower while soaping each other up, she playing close attention to my cock. She moaned when I leaned down and sucked on her nipples.

I got out of the shower first and headed to the bed. She followed shortly. She claimed on the bed and straddled me, leaning over to start another round of DFK. She soon moved her attention down to my neck, then chest, and ultimately to my cock. BBBJ was great and I let her go on for a few minutes before telling her that it was my turn. I lay her down on her back and started with her nipples. She was very responsive to my kisses and mined as I moved down to her stomach and eventually her pussy. She was partially shaved, which I prefer over a completely bare pussy. She smelled and tasted great. Very juicy. She clearly enjoyed the action, arching her hips upward to give me better access and squirming when I inserted a finger.

After a few minutes is at up and she put on a cover. She mounted me in CG and slid her tight pussy down my cock. We alternated for a few minutes between CG and rocking chair. When I felt I was about ready to come I slid down to the end of the bed, lifted her up and swung her around for standing mish. She was really into it as I pounded her in this position until I came. She took off the condom, cleaned me up and lay down with her head on my chest. After 10 minutes or so she began to play with my cock, beginning with her hand and progressing to her lips. I suggested that we move to 69 to which she happily agreed. It felt great and I began to respond but the combination of jet lag and age won out over desire. I enjoyed the mutual oral stimulation for about 10 minutes but realized that I wasn't going to be able to go for a round 2.

We got out of bed and took another shower together before I sent her on her way. Definitely one who I'd recommend.

Next day I texted Ainee to tell her if be coming over to Classic in the evening. She was very happy to see me, fretting me with a hug and kiss after I confirmed to the Mamasan that yes, she was the girl I wanted. I won't repeat details as the experience was

Similar (equally good GFE) to my encounters with her on my previous visit. I saw her a couple of times during the course of the week. Lots of fun, but her very limited English and my total lack of Bahasa meant that our encounters were limited to sex, whereas I generally enjoy having a bit of conversation with a provider. As I noted last time, she is a definite winner if you like tiny girls and are lolling for a GFE at reasonable price.

Yes she does seem to be simply looking for good fun, she is able to take as much as I can drill into her, without a cent changing hands. I am sure she is just using me for sex. I feel so dirty.

She finally asked me if I would share her with another man at the same time. I said yes as long as they are clean, and she has also had her pussy licked by another girl, so it seems like anything goes with this one.

Thanks for the hotels MDII, I will definitely keep their separate entrances in mind for when she is feeling shy. Just depends how horny she is as to what she will be seen doing.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1549524]It sounds like your friend is looking for good discreet fun. I'm sure there are several members willing to go the extra mile and provide a massage. Or perhaps she was hinting for you to give her a massage.

I can understand the issue of entering hotels and a major issue is that she doesn't want to be seen by people she may know. You need to look at what hotel you go to and who frequents that hotel. It becomes much more difficult if she has a high profile. That's where alternative entrances make a difference. Eg Citadines can be entered through the rumah sakit; Akmani can be accessed directly from the car park avoiding the reception area; Ritz Carlton through Pacific Place; Harris through FX; Hyatt and Kempinski similarly through their respective shopping malls. I've run through this kind of problem many times and there's always a solution. Of course, I've also had the old baseball cap and big sunglasses routine too.

MD II[/QUOTE]

A quick question: Recommended 'allowance' for girl to take a one week holiday with me in Bali, with expenses eg hotel, all paid. Will most likely be Bali local found online. Thanks

[QUOTE=Pez612;1554937]A quick question: Recommended 'allowance' for girl to take a one week holiday with me in Bali, with expenses eg hotel, all paid. Will most likely be Bali local found online. Thanks[/QUOTE]If she's hot, I think you need to plan on $200 US per day. If she's not, then you could go lower.

Pez612 Buddy,

01. Never done it before, with a local girl, in Bali.

02. My suggestion, as an Ol' IndonesianHand, Rp. 750, 000. 00 [+-US$.65. 00] would be sufficient.

03. But, to each their own.

04. Best of Luck and please do post your Report.

Ciao,

Pete33.

[QUOTE=Pez612;1554937]A quick question: Recommended 'allowance' for girl to take a one week holiday with me in Bali, with expenses eg hotel, all paid. Will most likely be Bali local found online. Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pez612;1554937]A quick question: Recommended 'allowance' for girl to take a one week holiday with me in Bali, with expenses eg hotel, all paid. Will most likely be Bali local found online. Thanks[/QUOTE]I always take a girl from Jakarta and have never paid them anything. I do pay for the airfare and hotel and food while in Bali as well as normally a couple of reasonable souvenirs, but never pay them cash. The girls have always been thankful for the vacation.

If you take a local Bali girl, I'm not sure what the rules would be.

[QUOTE=Pez612;1554937]A quick question: Recommended 'allowance' for girl to take a one week holiday with me in Bali, with expenses eg hotel, all paid. Will most likely be Bali local found online. Thanks[/QUOTE]A local girl from Bali will be very rare. Most probably a girl from another part of Indonesia who tries to make a living in Bali.

Years ago I gave $ 50 a day and the Smoothy way is also possible. All depends on the way you wrap up the invitation.

The figure I had in my head was 500k, I must be a stingy bastard.

Chatting online so will send a pic and float the figure and see what happens. Will let you know in a few days. Thanks all!

I am sure some of you will have seen the website I mention in the title (I won't link to it as that is against the rules). Some bloke, reports say he's American although his accent doesn't appear to be so, was trawling through Lokasari and Mangga Besar last year picking up the street girls there and videoing his adventures. None of the girls are especially hot but it's fun seeing familiar faces and places in his videos. I haven't signed up as I was able to download them for free elsewhere.

He takes great pride in vigorously bare-backing all the girls, which I find to be hilarious given his choice of partners. I hope he was vaccinated against HPV when he was a lad and made sure to get top-up shots in later years because if not he most assuredly now has a fine growth of genital warts to remind him of his stay in Jakarta.

Hi,

Do we have any post which is like an idiot's guide to pickup scene in Jakarta?

I am going to read the forum. But just in case, if someone has already done it, please post the link here.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MayanKanand; 1555507]Hi,

Do we have any post which is like an idiot's guide to pickup scene in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]1. Reports of Distinction Thread is good start for DIY.

2. Personal guide: email JAD and use his services for one night, it'll save you time and MONEY!

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1555515]1. Reports of Distinction Thread is good start for DIY.

2. Personal guide: email JAD and use his services for one night, it'll save you time and MONEY![/QUOTE]I apologize. I just didn't notice it.

Thanks Traveler1234.

[QUOTE=MayanKanand; 1555585]I apologize. I just didn't notice it.

Thanks Traveler1234.[/QUOTE]Unlike other places, Jakarta is pretty straight-forward for visitors. There are a numerous facilities located in a couple of key areas. Once you read up in ROD thread, you'll know what I mean. And again, not to plug JAD, but for any newbie, it's a worth-while investment. And he's always found some spot when I visit, LOL.

Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]Thanks for dropping in to inform us Fred. Please let us know how you get on.

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]Good first post Fred. Clearly you understand how the forum works.

Its exactly as you state.

You state who you are, and what you want.

All of us will go through our phone directories, check which ones weve had that match your target criteria and we will send you theirr details. And yes, all the members here have noted your preference for no cheap working girls.

We will be in contact with you Frd. Don't contact us, we will contact you.

Hi Fred, it is good that you are well educated, good looking and have such high standards. You will have so much fun there. The girls will flock to you.

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.[/QUOTE]I'm uneducated, fat, old, and ugly! No cheap working girls for me either please!

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]What is a nice guy like you, doing in a place like this?

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]I see plenty of guys have got into this before me. Just a brief comment on the auto correct making Frd's requirements look even harder to fulfill: he wants a well educated (possible) good looking (narrowing down the prospects and highly subjective) girl (no problem there. Watch out for the warias) 25. 35 years (I've got to calculate birthdays now. That would be roughly 25 years 4 months and 6 days) to have some fun somewhere (perhaps sometime. Unless he hasn't figured out the location) next June in Jakarta. If we assume June 6th, he would then need a girl born on January 31st 1989. Good Luck Frd.

MD II

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]Fred,

I would ignore those previous superficial responses. When you arrive at the airport I would advise you request for a Germo from the Tourist Information Counter.

I would also remind you of the wise words of a previous visitor to the Indies."Everyone lives by selling something, whatever be his right to it". R. L. Stevenson.

Hi guys,

Trying to get my senior status with 25 posts, so here's just some random comments on blokm from my experiences of late;

D's Place, back room still alive and active. Price is 300k BJ including girl getting naked and you feeling up whatever you can reach. 100k girl gets naked and you can feel her up, sometimes you get asked for security money. Ie. Another girl stays nearby and then asks for 50k after the job complete as she was 'security'. Pay that or not up to you and what mood your in. Girls between 5 to 7s, age varies between mid 20s to late 30s.

SOP is. Go in room, girls hoard around you and try lead you to the partitioned corner. You choose one for BJ and they dim the lights. She gets started, opening your shirt and undoing your pants, pulls it out and goes to work. Other girls maybe 3 or 4 all watching, trying and asking you for them to get naked for 100k. Say yes to one or two, they generally lick your nipples, grab your balls that kinda thing, while you feel whatever you can reach. The BJ's are usually quite good. I think they give each other tuition and tips.

Quite an exhibitionist experience. But having said that these girls have done it many times, so its just a walk in the park for them to see their friend sucking you off.

Girls either swallows or spits, depends on the girl.

Other girls help with cleanup with wet wipes your old fella, you pay your money and off for another beer in the main bar, go home or go to other bars on the strip.

Girls are all really friendly in back room, levels of English average, so some small amount of bahasa helps.

Girls in main bar have some kind of secret code whereby they communicate if you've just had a blowie and they don't seem as interested in you after that, unless they think your looking for more action.

- toilets, generally you will find girls lingering, sometimes even behind the male curtain using the mirror there. This is nice for those of us who are exhibitionists, cause as there doing their makeup, they will definitely be making glances at you and your privates. Sizing you up as such. Very easy to keep it out after your [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], wave it around a bit, ask them to wipe it (muslims wash and wipe their cocks after [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url]) or rub it between their butt cheeks as a bit of a surprise. Have done this once with an 8, which led to a blowie in the room next door.

Better lookers and younger are usually the sexy dancers, and all are available for quick one or take-out from my experience.

I won't detail too much about the other bars, but here's a few random comments;

- on the road close to top gun is a Kaki Lima selling a local brewed sweet but strong wine / spirit, its not arak but I guess something similar. The girls sit here and get drunk cheap before hitting the bars or when its quiet or if they haven't latched onto someone, its 20k for a large glass of alcohol with ice, theres also a kaki Lima selling some simple local fare.

I sat here with a girl of mine for at least an hour, was quite an experience, its very local and as a bule you are welcomed. Its quite funny to listen to the banter, insults, compliments made between them and at other girls as they are coming and going from the bars. The girl also pay a small amount to leave their bags there. No joke there would have been 30 or 40 bags there with girls coming and going from the bars.

- the female toilet in mybar is absolutely disgusting, its only squats with no doors and hasnt been cleaned in 20yrs. I had the unfortunate pleasure to accompany my girl in there so we could enjoy some of Colombians finest. Long story but lets just say if you'd seen those 'ladies' toilets DATY or rimming would definitely be off your to-do-list. Kinda funny seeing a girl, taking a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] with her jeans at her ankles yelling at you (ps. Yes security came, slipped 100k, then we disappeared to a well known nightclub on hayum waruk where these activities are more common).

Anyway, like I said some random ramblings, happy mongering guys.

Hhm

Hi Fred,

Welcome to the forum, and I hope you find what your looking for.

One place that immediately springs to mind is the streets around Taman Lawang, on jalan Sumenep, Menteng, central jakarta. Its a short walk from the main hotels around the famous roundabout fountain.

Some very nice girls there who fit your criteria.

Good luck with it and please post your 'report' afterwards.

Hhm

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HardHatMat; 1556198]Hi Fred,

Welcome to the forum, and I hope you find what your looking for.

One place that immediately springs to mind is the streets around Taman Lawang, on jalan Sumenep, Menteng, central jakarta. Its a short walk from the main hotels around the famous roundabout fountain.

Some very nice girls there who fit your criteria.

Good luck with it and please post your 'report' afterwards.

Hhm[/QUOTE]Hi all,

Thanks and I'm flabbergasted with the great replies. I don't have to contact it will be done, I'm send to the transsexual places and after that I'm invited to get the report over here with of course is what I was really looking for in the first place. So this must be heaven, so many friends trying to help me.

So ok, guess I didn't get the forum quite. I hoped this is where you could get to meet some girls before going to Jakarta. Been to Indonesia but with family and had lot's of attention, but now going on my own it would be great to have some contacts in advance. Now it seems all sites only lead me to a group of males (like this one) or I'm loaded with requests to get married which is not what I had in mind.

I know it's hard because I don't want a working girl and pay after all is done because it doesn't feel right for me. But meeting a girl who likes to have some fun and a good time and doesn't ask for money before, it's nice to spoil her with thing while being there. I read places like Red Square are great, but I wonder if there's any experience with you guys. And. How can you recognize between working girl and somebody just looking for fun. I've never been with a girl this way, but you have to try before you die.

Thanks, hope for somewhat more serious reply.

[QUOTE=HardHatMat; 1556191]Hi guys,

Trying to get my senior status with 25 posts, so here's just some random comments on blokm from my experiences of late;

<SNIP [/QUOTE]Mat, you get senior status by buying a subscription for US$ 25. When you have done that you can send and receive PM's and have a look at all the posted photograps.

Regards,

Ko

Hi FrdMen,

If you want to get some contacts of good girls, before you arrive, then I think you will really struggle.

Your best bet in my opinion is DIA website. But you got to make it very clear in your profile that you are looking for someone to show you around and have dinner with only. You will get a millions hits from the Philippines no matter what you say.

Other than that, if you really want educated classy women, you had better be a good looking, classy looking dude. Otherwise the classy women, who have their own money won't even look at you. Its a fact that most of the wealthy educated english speaking Indo's or Chinese-Indo's have US, UK or Australian university educations. So if your a middle aged balding pot-bellied guy hoping to get one of them your living in a fantasy land.

Also, don't underestimate the fact that many classy and educated Indo's but especially Indo-Chinese are racist and see many white guys as poor in comparison, slobs, unattractive. The lots of looks you were getting would have not been from this group. I hope I don't get flamed for this opinion, but theres a very big difference between the classes in Indo and in their eyes white expats are much lower down the scale.

Many would be shunned by their families and friends for even dating a white guy. This is especially true of the Chinese.

Anyway. Back on topic. Without contacts, who can introduce you to some classy chicks in nightclubs, and you sit at their table. You will struggle. Dragonfly, Blowfish, Immigrant, Colleseum etc etc have a system where you pay for a table, and then you have to order bottles of liqour up to that level. The best positions are the sofa, can be 5m ($550USD) and heading north these days, so if your with a group of friends and have a sofa booked women will come to you. This has been very successful for me, but you got to be in a group- can't do it alone.

The other option, is that there are normal women in the hooker bars as well. I once met and bedded a great fun-loving Doctor in CJ's. She was there cause she liked the band and didn't really like the dance scene like Colosseum etc. So it is possible, but its pretty rare and you might have to go through alot to find them.

My final advice to you is this; most of the working girls in these bars aren't really working girls IMHO. They are opportunists, they go out, find a guy to buy them drinks, have a great time and sometimes they go home with a guy, usually are great in bed and love to have sex, always give GFE (Indo chicks are some of the best lovers in the world). They work days jobs and might do this once or twice a week. Okay so they might want a little cash to help out. Why not. Its very very different from a girl from classic hotel doing 8 guys a night, who speaks no english and is a starfish in the sack.

Good luck with it, this is my serious answer now. I wouldn't be so against paying for it if its a quality time and you really have some fun in the process. Remember minimum wage in Jakarta isat300usd a month, so you can't blame them. Even the girls who have days jobs earning 10m / mth, an extra 1m goes along way.

HHM

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1556524]Hi all,

I hoped this is where you could get to meet some girls before going to Jakarta. Been to Indonesia but with family and had lot's of attention, but now going on my own it would be great to have some contacts in advance. Now it seems all sites only lead me to a group of males (like this one) or I'm loaded with requests to get married which is not what I had in mind.

I know it's hard because I don't want a working girl and pay after all is done because it doesn't feel right for me. But meeting a girl who likes to have some fun and a good time and doesn't ask for money before, it's nice to spoil her with thing while being there. I read places like Red Square are great, but I wonder if there's any experience with you guys. And. How can you recognize between working girl and somebody just looking for fun. I've never been with a girl this way, but you have to try before you die.

Thanks, hope for somewhat more serious reply.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FrdMen;1555682]No cheap working girls please.[/QUOTE]No cheap working girls? What's life worth living without that?

[QUOTE=Pez612; 1555233]The figure I had in my head was 500k, I must be a stingy bastard.

Chatting online so will send a pic and float the figure and see what happens. Will let you know in a few days. Thanks all![/QUOTE]A few days and no email. I guess I'm too cheap at 500k. Will try DIA soon to see what happens, but have a feeling ill just pickup on arrival. Will spend a couple of evenings in kuta before renting a car and heading north.

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]Ok Frd, I'll give this a shot as HHM did earlier. He's both right and wrong in some aspects so I'll try and clear this up and answer the best that I can, as it looks like you're looking more in my area of the local market than most of the guys here. I am approaching my half century with a reasonable amount of resistance both physically and mentally, so we're probably not that far apart. Perhaps a modicum less good looking than yourself, but I manage.

HHM is correct that there are distinct layers in Indonesian society, but like anywhere else, there are plenty of grey areas. The extremely snobby and exclusive families are in the topmost tier and very particular whom they go out with. However, there will always be women (even at this level) looking for fun, but VERY DISCRETE fun;). That's an area you might be able to exploit, as they do look for foreign men so there's little chance of news leaking out. The difficulty is in meeting them, as they are extremely cliquish when out and about in town, and paranoid that they may be spotted by someone else. Your best chance is if they are going around with the their gay friend shopping or in the clubs. Your approach should be through him; nonetheless it isn't easy. That doesn't even cover the way they get to your hotel room if they finally decide they like you.

If however you aim a little bit lower, you can find all sorts of women in this target age group who are well educated and much more open to meet. They can be anyone from office workers to doctors, lawyers or bankers. Since you have time, do join some of the dating websites and set up a profile. HHM has suggested DIA but there are many others much more preferable to my eyes. I haven't trawled on DIA for ages but use a few others presently which seem to do the job rather nicely. I don't put any BS in my profile and am pretty straightforward without being overly obvious. It is a very fine edge to walk on, but if you strike the right balance, you can get rewarded rather prettily. It is advantageous to have all the chatting tools to communicate: BBM (still very much preferred as they don't have to give you their phone number to chat) Whatsapp, Viber, Line, FB, Skype, Yahoo Messenger (although less utilised now) etc. As HHM mentioned, I do know normal women who go to CJs (usually on ladies night) for the band, but they are much in the minority there. Much as there are many part timers and FLs in CJs, BATS etc, they are still "commercial" and at times rather "hardcore".

Otherwise you could try the clubs in Kemang, go with a wingman, get a bottle and do be generous with drinks. You never know whom you may land. HHM is correct regarding some of those other bars, but as he said it's tough to do it alone. See if anyone else is around when you're going and try and form a group. Alternatively, go and befriend a gay guy and take him out for drinks with you. It sounds weird but they can much more easily approach women than you can. I can also remember a few times where the girl I was meeting brought a couple of gay friends with her; once you pass their approval, they might disappear and leave you with her. It's much more common than you may think, but also very useful once you have knowledge of how it all works.

Just a brief aside regarding cost: not all women are looking for money, but the lower they are on the income scale, the more it is appreciated or expected. Most women I've met over dating websites only want genuine taxi money (100k rupiah or less) if they find they are short of funds and insulted if they are offered more. So if there is a subscription cost for these dating sites, there is a return on investment:D. At the same time, I have come across VERY "commercial" women on the same sites, but you can tell that within the first exchange of messages as they are normally pretty upfront. You can also tell from their profiles as well if you read between the lines. It would probably also make sense to subscribe here too (if you haven't already) so you can communicate directly with other members.

Incidentally Ramadhan (fasting month) starts about 28th June for about 30 days. It will definitely be a lot more difficult during this period as there will be restrictions on bars opening, especially on certain dates. Your initial query was rather naive and totally out of the general understanding of this forum, which is why you got so much stick. Most of us shot a few FRs out about our local areas before we asked questions. There is plenty of information out there if you really try and get through it. There is a forum search function to narrow it down, but I also realise that you still have a lot to wade through - but then again, plenty of us have gone to a lot of trouble to write FRs; since it is a whole lot slower writing all of this than it is to read it, we really would appreciate you taking the trouble to peruse through our various compositions. If you want more details, you can PM me.

MD II

Hi,

I will visit Jakarta in end of May. I'm looking for some fun with nice ladies between 25-35 years. Any recommandation where I can contact some girls?

I have no time in the evening to arrange some visits in the Bars, so I look for some possibilities to reach some girls by phone to arrange some session in my room.

Anybody have some suggestion whom I can contact?

First, this post from Fred showed up here on ISG eleven days ago:

[QUOTE=FrdMen; 1555682]Hi,

I'm looking for a well educated, good looking girl from 25. 35 years to have some fun together somewhere next June in Jakarta.

I'm well educated myself and good looking. 40+. No cheap working girls please.

Fred[/QUOTE]Now, we have the following post from Hanibo:

[QUOTE=Hanibo; 1557979]Hi,

I will visit Jakarta in end of May. I'm looking for some fun with nice ladies between 25-35 years. Any recommendation where I can contact some girls?

I have no time in the evening to arrange some visits in the Bars, so I look for some possibilities to reach some girls by phone to arrange some session in my room.

Anybody have some suggestion whom I can contact?[/QUOTE]Just curious. Are Fred and Hanibo one and the same person?

If not, then:

Dear Hanibo,

Since your post is virtually the same request as Fred's request, I strongly encourage you to read the posts below that were written in response to his request.

However, I'm confused by one of your sentences. Do you really have absolutely no time to visit any bars at all in the evening? Assuming that it's not because of laziness, there are several ways to find girls quickly and have some fun while doing so.

If you are staying at the Shangri-La Hotel, then just walk downstairs to the BATS bar. If you're staying at the Mulia Hotel, then just visit CJ's. Other hotels (I. E. Ritz-Carlton) have bars / clubs as well. In all of these places, you can easily find female company within a few minutes of entering.

You could also try your hotel's massage service, although that could get pricey.

If you're walking through a mall, keep an eye out for girls. You could easily swap cell numbers and / or arrange for the young lady to meet you later. You could also flirt with cashiers / counter girls / waitresses / etc. You'd be surprised at how easy it is to pick up girls if you're a friendly foreigner.

There are several dating sites, such as DIA, that you can access to line up girls before you even arrive - they've been discussed extensively here, RTFF.

Every man who visits Jakarta, no matter how busy they are, should make time to visit one of the saunas, especially early in their stay. My personal favorite is Kartika, which offers a body-to-body slippery massage (even better is a 2-girl session), but there are many other places that are also good: Alexis (high-end) , Malioboro (mid-to-high end) , Maribaya (lower end, but where almost every girl is in your age bracket) , Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic, Sumo Shiatsu (in the Kelapa Gading area) and many others. Get a session on your first day, then if you like the girl, get her cell number and arrange to have her meet you at your hotel after her shift is over, for either short-term or long-term. Most Jakarta girls would love to spend the night in a nice hotel bed, both for the money but also because it's a lot nicer than the shithole room they live in (and share with 2 or 3 other girls).

Or, contact Jakarta After Dark 2 and he can set everything up for you (for a fee, of course, but money well spent).

RTFF! And please don't overpay.

Hi MD II and HHM,

Thanks for your information and nope, I'm not Hanibo.

I've been to DIA at your advice and it works perfectly. I made clear what I'm looking for (but not to explicit) and get enough reactions from girls that meet my expectation. They are educated (University graduated for Indonesian standard and some western standard) , talk English very good and are independent (checked with linked in or Facebook, they match and have good jobs e. G. Producer). I do have to select for at least 5 girls meet my expectations so I've hidden my profile at this time (good looking face and classy style seems to help.).

I'm with an Indonesian woman myself that I've met in Europe and her parents think bule is not good enough for their daughter. I've been with her for 15 years now, luckily she's not Chinese and sure not ugly. But for once I would like to go back to 15 years ago when I met her. That's why my standard remains educated.

I can use your advice well so thanks for it. I'll get back when I've been to Jakarta to update on the results. But I don't think there will be a lot of pictures over here, don't think the girls would want that. But I'll think of something.

Enough information for me, so the subject can be closed.

Thank for the serious replies.

Frd

Tommy. Any reason you didn't go to Delta? Price?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1558265]Tommy. Any reason you didn't go to Delta? Price?[/QUOTE]Hi Traveler,

Only reason was that I was actually looking for more than a HJ (which is as far as I'm aware the only thing on the menu in Delta). It was still on the shortlist, since it simply offers solid above average quality from my experience and usually has very decent facilities for enjoying some pool / sauna time before or after the massage. During my overall trip I definitely plan to visit (a) Delta at least once. Maybe the newly opened one in Bali.

Since I haven't been in a while I can only estimate the cost. If other members know better, please correct me. I would estimate that for 3 sessions including HJ you should be at around 600k, so on the higher end for massage places in Jakarta.

If anyone else has any recommendations for my next stop in Jakarta, they are more than welcome.

Just a quick comment on my below reports:

I don't know how it happened, but it looks like the order in which they are posted has somehow gotten turned around. Should now be read starting with Number 3, then Number 2, then number 1. That's the correct chronological order and helps the transition in the reports be more understandable.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1557574]I haven't trawled on DIA for ages but use a few others presently which seem to do the job rather nicely. I don't put any BS in my profile and am pretty straightforward without being overly obvious. It is a very fine edge to walk on, but if you strike the right balance, you can get rewarded rather prettily. It is advantageous to have all the chatting tools to communicate: BBM (still very much preferred as they don't have to give you their phone number to chat) Whatsapp, Viber, Line, FB, Skype, Yahoo Messenger (although less utilised now) etc. As HHM mentioned, I do know normal women who go to CJs (usually on ladies night) for the band, but they are much in the minority there. Much as there are many part timers and FLs in CJs, BATS etc, they are still "commercial" and at times rather "hardcore".

Otherwise you could try the clubs in Kemang,

Just a brief aside regarding cost: not all women are looking for money, but the lower they are on the income scale, the more it is appreciated or expected. Most women I've met over dating websites only want genuine taxi money (100k rupiah or less) if they find they are short of funds and insulted if they are offered more. So if there is a subscription cost for these dating sites, there is a return on investment. At the same time, I have come across VERY ns. If you want more details, you can PM me.

MD II[/QUOTE]Would you mind that I pm you? I used to use IC and then tryed DIA, seems a few girls I went out with noticed me on DIA as it is free entry. They seemed rather unhappy about thay. I couldn't even find them on DIA. Both said "a friend of them noticed my profile.". So I am looking for some other interesting sites; as you mentioned the subscription fee is in a way an investment. I'm a guy who usually goes for the smaller spa's and inhotel services as I feel awkward alone in the well known bars or spas for the usual enjoyment. On the other hand I adore the dating scene as it gives me personally more satisfaction.

[QUOTE=Medanboy;1559043]Would you mind that I pm you? I used to use IC and then tryed DIA, seems a few girls I went out with noticed me on DIA as it is free entry. They seemed rather unhappy about thay. I couldn't even find them on DIA. Both said "a friend of them noticed my profile.". So I am looking for some other interesting sites; as you mentioned the subscription fee is in a way an investment. I'm a guy who usually goes for the smaller spa's and inhotel services as I feel awkward alone in the well known bars or spas for the usual enjoyment. On the other hand I adore the dating scene as it gives me personally more satisfaction.[/QUOTE]You should have just put your profile on all the sites anyway. Did you tell them that you're serious with them? I've never had any problems and I'm on both of those sites. But then again, they all know that I'm not serious with them, even though some of them are looking for serious relationships. I'm just being "used" ;) as a stopgap measure until they find the"one". It is more fun going to the bars with at least one friend, but there's no need to feel awkward at all. You've been around enough and posted enough around the forum; why don't you get to know some of the other guys here? Check out the Travel Announcements and see who's around. There's no need to ask permission to PM me. You are right though, the dating scene is a blast: as Forest Gump's mama used to say, "Life's like a box of chocolates...".:D

MD II

Left Bali for a weekend in Jakarta. Meet Emma 26 year old girl of the internet Asaincupid at the Hotel and a fun night and she left after the weekend went south. Then rang a 19 year old girl of tagged name Fitrianai and arrive hour after the other girl left. Not that cheap a weekend with flights and Hotel. But a fun time and both girls were good value. Enjoy the Photo, s

Interesting that we both photograph the same assets in the same way. You got to love the Indonesian hooters. TTG

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1560412]Interesting that we both photograph the same assets in the same way. You got to love the Indonesian hooters. TTG[/QUOTE]Looks like Emma is making the rounds. She's just as bad as us guys going from one to the next. Haha.

I am plan to visit in 2 weeks time guys. Almost 10 years ago I spent few days in Jakarta.

I forgot the name of 4 floor complex with disco and ST room inside. And they fully operate during daytime.

Is it still open? If yes, please tell me the name of the place.

Thanks advance guys.

[QUOTE=Anal Kiss; 1560738]I am planning to visit in 2 weeks time, guys. Almost 10 years ago I spent a few days in Jakarta.

I forgot the name of the 4 floor complex with disco and ST room inside. And they fully operate during daytime.

Is it still open? If yes, please tell me the name of the place.

Thanks advance guys.[/QUOTE]It's known as the "Stadium" and is located four alleys south of the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk. Its front door is approx a 50-meter walk from the "Mangga Besar" stop on TransJakarta Line #1 (the main north-south bus line that goes from Blok M in the south to Kota in the north, with popular stops for Sarinah, Plaza Indonesia, Sarinah Plaza and the MONAS monument). This area is just south of Kota and north of all of the other places I mentioned (MONAS, Sarinah, Plaza Indonesia, etc.).

Three alleys to the north is the famous Kartika Spa where one can enjoy a body-to-body slide massage.

Both the Stadium and Kartika have been written about extensively. RTFF. There is at least some security risk from going to the Stadium, especially later at night when the place could get busted, or you'll find a girl who's high on ecstasy or a similar drug.

If you go in two week's time, you'll be ok, but if your trip gets delayed, please keep in mind that the fasting month of Ramadan begins around June 28th, so the Stadium, Kartika and most of the other saunas will be closed from June 25th onwards, to reopen in August.

[QUOTE=Steve 99;1560607]Looks like Emma is making the rounds. She's just as bad as us guys going from one to the next. Haha.[/QUOTE]My pic isn't Emma and I'm sure Blue's photos didn't come from my latest main squeeze! But you're right that the ladies travel from one to the next! TTG

Pix from a while ago. Just playing.

Come to he who is willing to wait (and pay!)

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1560845]Come to he who is willing to wait (and pay!)[/QUOTE]I hope you were not talking about the attached picture.

But than again everybody's taste is different.

[QUOTE=Anal Kiss; 1560738]I am plan to visit in 2 weeks time guys. Almost 10 years ago I spent few days in Jakarta.

I forgot the name of 4 floor complex with disco and ST room inside. And they fully operate during daytime.

Is it still open? If yes, please tell me the name of the place.

Thanks advance guys.[/QUOTE]To Anal

There have been many large Entertaiment Complex in all over Jarkata the most famous one is the Stadium near Manga Besar is been there for more than 10 yr, many of them come and go if you go to the website Jakarta after dark for more info for the latest info.

Fast Eddie 48

Emma had great tits and lips, Ex Bali 22 year old with milk tits and back in Java to drop off the load and then back to work in Jakarta or Bali with saggy tits and belly. The local guy fuck her and left her high and dry and said do your best. Gave her a bus fare back to Java. We love nice tit and pussy.

[QUOTE=JustBlue;1559237]Left Bali for a weekend in Jakarta. Meet Emma 26 year old girl of the internet Asaincupid at the Hotel and a fun night and she left after the weekend went south. Then rang a 19 year old girl of tagged name Fitrianai and arrive hour after the other girl left. Not that cheap a weekend with flights and Hotel. But a fun time and both girls were good value. Enjoy the Photo, s[/QUOTE]That's one sexy pussy and body. I am envious.

[QUOTE=MarkIII; 1561126]I hope you were not talking about the attached picture.

But than again everybody's taste is different.[/QUOTE]She has one of the best figures I've seen on 3 continents, over many years. Blame the photography, but you'd have to be blind not to appreciate the curves. She'd stop traffic in Manhattan. TTG

1 mil for overnighters seems fair to me, I'll be stayingatMulia's Next Saturday for 5 nights. 1st visit to the east ever, and purely for mongering, seeking english speakers as I will be alone, any tips would be much appreciated, and as I have already told my new friends HHM & Mighty Spearsman, I am seeking a wingman on these nights, first round on me!

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1547825]My experience in Red Square is that its mostly a hooker joint. If you want normal girls, rarely do you find them there.

I travel atleast 15 times a year for work in Jakarta and hit BATS every night (easy and safe). Glad to report that over-nighters are always available at 1mn. No need to pay over that. Only once have I spent 1. 5mn but that was for a university party girl. And I NEVER choose the older / fat ones.

Was there 2 weeks back and did the usual rounds of the club. One petite hot girl in a red dress was the one who attracted me. She wanted 2 mn. No way.

More rounds at around 1 AM, asked her what she wanted to do. Offered her 1 mn and off we went to my room. Good sex. Speaks great English and had a French boy-friend. She had said that she was from Bali but now said that she is from the very east of Java. Don't remember the name.

Good figure with nice small tits and good performance. Only problem was that she did not perform in the morning. She said that I did not ask for it in the club. My fault! Anyway, since it was not agreed, off she went.

Once again. 1 mn for a reasonably good looking girl is the max you should pat at BATS. I have pulled for even 600K. I am not the price police (I hate that) and if you are happy to spend a couple of mill, then that's your choice.

Cheers,

McM.

P. S. Why is the board so quiet[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustBlue;1561394]Emma had great tits and lips, Ex Bali 22 year old with milk tits and back in Java to drop off the load and then back to work in Jakarta or Bali with saggy tits and belly. The local guy fuck her and left her high and dry and said do your best. Gave her a bus fare back to Java. We love nice tit and pussy.[/QUOTE]LOL. Drop off a load. Crack me up. So yeah she got saggy gut now. I think she is down on my list now. Though those experienced ones are sometimes the best. Yeah pregnant titties are the bomb. LOL.

Hi all,

Met this lady in Aff. She is quoting 1mil. Anybody tried this beauty. You review about the experience would be useful. Planning to get this beauty for the weekend but she says she would be available only during the day.

Cheers,

Freque

Very cute, where can I locate her or get in touch with her?

[QUOTE=Freque; 1563046]Hi all,

Met this lady in Aff. She is quoting 1mil. Anybody tried this beauty. You review about the experience would be useful. Planning to get this beauty for the weekend but she says she would be available only during the day.

Cheers,

Freque[/QUOTE]

Hey lads,

I don't post here nearly often enough and for that I'm ashamed. You all give fantastic information that I've used to my advantage frequently.

This isn't really a 'report' per se, since I didn't partake in any carnal delights. However, after copious amounts of intoxicating substances last night at Stadium and Crown, a very helpful lad took me and my pals to a place I've not heard too much of on these boards: Club 36.

Now, I have absolutely no idea where it is, but it was no more than a 20 minute drive from Crown at 2am. The place was rocking! Hot girls dancing on the bar, decent live music, great party vibe (although that could be a result of the aforementioned intoxicating substances). I squeezed and canoodled with a Thai hottie and spoke to her in Isaan and Khmer, and she giggled gorgeously. My pals also found time to pinch and tickle the various delightful creatures we were surrounded by (for the price of a few drinks, obviously).

However, I didn't have my wits about me, so I didn't inquire about any prices or on-site options. Does anyone have any experience at this place? If I get an opportunity soon, I'll try to get there with a somewhat clear head and report back.

[QUOTE=HappilyMarried;1563776][/QUOTE]Very similar to how I do it, couple of questions I'd be curious to hear your answer.

I stayed at Kemang fav also, I like this quality and budget but found its abit far from central meeting points for dates and normal clubs, did you find any hotel in central jakarta of a similar standard?

I also line up DIAs and whatsapp them, but find most are usually working in jakarta mon-fri and find it hard to get the lunch date every day, do you line up more than one on the same day in case one cancels?

[QUOTE=AnywhereInAsia; 1565360]Very similar to how I do it, couple of questions I'd be curious to hear your answer.

I stayed at Kemang fav also, I like this quality and budget but found its abit far from central meeting points for dates and normal clubs, did you find any hotel in central jakarta of a similar standard?

I also line up DIAs and whatsapp them, but find most are usually working in jakarta mon-fri and find it hard to get the lunch date every day, do you line up more than one on the same day in case one cancels?[/QUOTE]Hi AIA,

I wrote in the hotels section (where I reviewed Kemang Icon, Kemang FavHotel, Thamrin Condotel) and commented that Kemang was probably a mistake for what I was after (it sounds we have similar goals). Kemang Favhotel was not my cup of tea but for the price was good. It was my third proper mongering trip this time for the first three nights I opted for Harris FX Surdiman which is in the Senayan area close to Senayan City and Senayan Plaza, walk to Red Square and a quick cab ride to CJs at Hotel Mulia. I stayed in FX on my second trip and found it was a good central spot. A couple of cafes for the interviews and also some good local eating places and on level 2 some nice restaurants. The entry to the hotel was also very discrete as it's in the mall. Most of my dates worked around there and some more also worked around Central, so Thamrin. FX was a good price for what you get. $88AUD and previous trip I stayed at Pullman Thamrin which was excellent and I got for a great discount rate of $130AUD.

With Kemang I was thinking it sounded good because of the bars and restaurants all in walking distance which anywhere else in Jakarta you can't really do. It's always a taxi ride to the next place. But you're right, it's nowhere near where most of my dates worked and definitely the opposite side to where most lived too. Having my time again maybe I'd even try to stay in a more respectable hotel up North. A place where I'll do a bit of research on for my next trip.

As for the lunch date, try to hit up some girls. There are plenty of students looking for a bit of fun (I got a 20yr old) and also girls who work in malls therefore have their days off during the week as they work on weekends. If the girl is keen enough (and they often are) they will actually take the day off from work to see you.

I do line up some extras should some girls cancel but I've not had a cancellation yet. I figure after them (and me at times) investing so much time on whatsapp they are very keen to meet. From my previous two trips I have a couple of "regulars" who I keep warm and do not commit to a time with. I think they realise they are my "backup" by now and they are ok with that to the point of even discussing my encounters with other girls with them.

HM.

I was in Jakarta a couple of weeks ago and went to Top Gun. It was the first time in about 10 years. I remember it being a bit trashy and depressing. Anyway, I'm not sure whether I hit it on a good night or whether things have changed, but I liked it a lot. They had a good band playing both English and Indonesian tunes and a few of the women were really hot, like 9's. D's on the other hand sucked. I'm not sure about My Bar, as I left around 1:00 AM and things were just getting started.

BATS had been my favorite, but this time both the women and the band left a lot to be desired.

No price information -- I actually pulled a "freebie" from Top Gun who had her own almost-new SUV which her German boyfriend paid for. She was pretty wasted and put a dent in it on the way to my hotel. Fortunately insurance will pay for most of the damage. The reason "freebie" is in quotation marks is because I paid for the deductible.

She wasn't the most attractive at Top Gun but the woman was insatiable, she kept me up about 8 hours straight fucking. She couldn't believe I could keep up with her but she didn't know about the Levitra. I wouldn't have gone with her except she pulled me over in the club while she was dancing, stuck her tongue down my throat, and told me she liked me and would go with me for free. It's been about 15 years since the last time that happened.

I didn't take anyone from BATS, even though I went there twice.

Apologies to JAD if you read this. I definitely would have gotten another Jakarta After Dark tour, as the first is my outstanding memory of mongering in Indonesia, but had a pretty tough work schedule. For anyone who doesn't know about JAD and is interested, do a search or see his website, [URL]http://www.jakartaafterdark.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=AnywhereInAsia; 1565360]Very similar to how I do it, couple of questions I'd be curious to hear your answer.

I stayed at Kemang fav also, I like this quality and budget but found its abit far from central meeting points for dates and normal clubs, did you find any hotel in central jakarta of a similar standard?

I also line up DIAs and whatsapp them, but find most are usually working in jakarta mon-fri and find it hard to get the lunch date every day, do you line up more than one on the same day in case one cancels?[/QUOTE]There are several Fave hotels around the city. Check their website and see if you can find one convenient for you. There's a Fave on Wahid Hasyim, as well as several hotels which might meet your budget and other requirements: Akmani, Ibis, Neo (I think). Otherwise check on Agoda and use the map to zero in on your location needs. I also go down the dating route and normally locate myself either around Wahid Hasyim or Kuningan area. There's a reasonably priced Best Western in the Mega Kuningan area which is reasonably priced and very well located to meet dates nearby.

MD II

I agree with MDII, the wahid hasyim area offers many medium priced hotels, is in a central location. Close to the popular malls which is good to meet lunch dates in. And is not far from some of the hotel bars. Taxi ride to the Blok will be 30-45mins at 11pm and to the Kota strip (north) less.

The Kosenda, on the west side of Thamrin is a small boutique hotel, it has a small but outstanding rooftop bar on the 9th floor. Great for pre-dinner drinks with a date. Rooms at the Kosenda are very modern and funky, I highly recommend the Kosenda, although it isat1m a night (but I paid 700k once as a walk-in rate). The Akmani has a pretty good outdoor bar as well. The Ibis, Neo etc will beat500-700 in that area.

There are lower level hotels such as the paragon, Cemara etc. But they feel very local, often smokey smelly rooms, and the breakfast's suck.

And also well worth an honorable mention is the Morrissey hotel. It sometimes has specials on agoda at 700k a night. The rooms are also modern and funky, service is excellent. And best of all the Italian resto downstairs, called 'ocha & bella' will impress all level of dates. Their pizzas are the best in the city. Its modern Italian, with a band and classy decor.

Morrissey is located on Wahid Hasyim and jl Jaksa. You can avoid Jl Jaksa altogether if its not your scene.

As a side note. I quite like Jaksa, but many don't. Each his own. If your over mongering and just feel like drinking 30k big bintangs in non-aircon bars and like to mingle with a mix of crusty expats, africans, low level hookers, english school teachers and backpackers. Then this is a fun option.

Sorry guys if this should be in the Jakarta-Hotel section, I don't know how to move a post-reply.

HHM.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1566198]There are several Fave hotels around the city. Check their website and see if you can find one convenient for you. There's a Fave on Wahid Hasyim, as well as several hotels which might meet your budget and other requirements: Akmani, Ibis, Neo (I think). Otherwise check on Agoda and use the map to zero in on your location needs. I also go down the dating route and normally locate myself either around Wahid Hasyim or Kuningan area. There's a reasonably priced Best Western in the Mega Kuningan area which is reasonably priced and very well located to meet dates nearby.

MD II[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1566198]There are several Fave hotels around the city. Check their website and see if you can find one convenient for you. There's a Fave on Wahid Hasyim, as well as several hotels which might meet your budget and other requirements: Akmani, Ibis, Neo (I think). Otherwise check on Agoda and use the map to zero in on your location needs. I also go down the dating route and normally locate myself either around Wahid Hasyim or Kuningan area. There's a reasonably priced Best Western in the Mega Kuningan area which is reasonably priced and very well located to meet dates nearby.

MD II[/QUOTE]I recently used the FAVE Hotel Pasar Baru just a 10-15 minute walk from Terminal / Hotel Classic for 5 days. Excellent value for money & very neat & clean.

[url]http://www.favehotels.com/hotellist/eng/21/favehotel-pasar-baru[/url]

Dear all,

Many thanks for all your words of wisdom to silent mongers like me. Now my turn to share back.

For those into the Blok M kind of meat, an interesting option is the bar at the Mandarin Oriental. Called MO bar. But only on Tuesdays when there is a ladies night. Drinks for ladies are free all night until midnight with the result that a lot of ladies get completely shit faced and are easy pickings. 95% are working girls and 80% are middle aged and unattractive but you do come across the occasional gem. I started chatting up a pretty young spinner from Bandung. Apparently she had a friend in the city. Who was much less attractive. And came down to Jakarta every Tuesday evening to take advantage of the free drinks at MO bar. She would then stay overnight with her friend. She was happy to come back with me to "see my room" at the Mandarin Oriental and we ended up banging on the couch doggy style while both enjoying the Jakarta skyline view from the French windows. She then asked if she could stay over and I was happy to oblige. Woke up middle of the night with her lips on my rod. Turned out she was heavily into anal rimming and spent a good 20 minutes down there followed by some ball sucking and then a BJ with CIM. I returned the favor with DATY. Woke up at 7 AM for another session of AR and BJ with CIM and kicked her out. She did not ask for money so tipped her 500 K which she accepted without any complaint.

Overall, MO bar is well worth a visit but 3 things to remember - (1) drinks are not cheap - 100 K for a beer 2) some of the ladies are very aggressive but ignore (3) be patient and take your time. Girls outnumber guys 5 to 1 and so it is well worth fully scouting the place before deciding on company for the night.

Stadium shut down? I hear that Stadium has been closed down, supposedly for good. Anyone have any info on this?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1569619]Stadium shut down? I hear that Stadium has been closed down, supposedly for good. Anyone have any info on this?[/QUOTE]Correct. The police finally got Stadium closed, that is a police officer from Sulawesi overdosed and died in the club, straw broke the camel's back. It is in every newspaper here.

I'm sure it will be back in some form or another eventually as there is so much money at stake. But for now it is done. I would stay out of Kota club's for a while.

Was reading about the stadium shut down and came across this report put together by a guy from Princeton pretty amazing read, kind of like seeing the matrix of Jakarta's underbelly.

[URL]http://www.academia.edu/4338139/John_Mac_Dougalls_sex_industry_report[/URL]

Great read, I had read this along time ago, but now knowing the place a little better it definitely makes more sense. Thanks for highlighting.

This guy has really really done his research. Wow what a job..

He details many organised places like Kalijodo that some of the senior mongers have been to in Jakarta. But also alot more that many of us would never goto or consider, due to violence, low level etc.

He calls these the Mid level areas, with a whole other category for the unstructured 'wild' zones around train tracks etc. Wow, and here I was thinking Kalijodo etc were the 'wild' zones.

Anyway, a great read, particularly for those living in Jakarta, most of these places of off the tourist track, let alone off the locals track.

Be safe out there.

[QUOTE=DonChristiano;1570072]Was reading about the stadium shut down and came across this report put together by a guy from Princeton pretty amazing read, kind of like seeing the matrix of Jakarta's underbelly.

[URL]http://www.academia.edu/4338139/John_Mac_Dougalls_sex_industry_report[/URL][/QUOTE]

I will use it as a guide to explore the areas outside of the Manga Bessar / Bloc M / Hotel Bar and Red Square freelance axis and report back to the forum on my findings. Have been studying Bahasa so that will hopefully help.

Any pointers on particular areas to focus on much appreciated (have RTFF, but again info is 99% on the areas mentioned above, which makes up only a fraction of the market.

[QUOTE=HardHatMat;1570275]Great read, I had read this along time ago, but now knowing the place a little better it definitely makes more sense. Thanks for highlighting.

This guy has really really done his research. Wow what a job..

He details many organised places like Kalijodo that some of the senior mongers have been to in Jakarta. But also alot more that many of us would never goto or consider, due to violence, low level etc.

He calls these the Mid level areas, with a whole other category for the unstructured 'wild' zones around train tracks etc. Wow, and here I was thinking Kalijodo etc were the 'wild' zones.

Anyway, a great read, particularly for those living in Jakarta, most of these places of off the tourist track, let alone off the locals track.

Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pikefish;1569659]Correct. The police finally got Stadium closed, that is a police officer from Sulawesi overdosed and died in the club, straw broke the camel's back. It is in every newspaper here.

I'm sure it will be back in some form or another eventually as there is so much money at stake. But for now it is done. I would stay out of Kota club's for a while.[/QUOTE]Was in Stadium for the first time for a few years on the Monday before it closed. There was a distinct lack of security. One of the guards said there was to be a change of management. Tommy W was no longer interested in overseeing the facility, mamasan mentioned she had problem bringing in new girls. So it seemed to be on its last legs anyway.

Would always recommend Kings Cross in Kelapa Gading, one of Tommy Winata's better managed joints. My taxi driver couldn't find or recall it basically because my pronunciation was poor. They locals called it Kink Cross not KingS Cross. The contract girls at 300 000 Rp seem better than the freelance ones at twice the price. My girl (who my pal selected for me through a "contes") said the club is only planning to close for 5 days during the end of fasting month. So it looks as if the better protected clubs will be shut for a week only which is looking good for July.

[QUOTE=DonChristiano;1570072]Was reading about the stadium shut down and came across this report put together by a guy from Princeton pretty amazing read, kind of like seeing the matrix of Jakarta's underbelly.

[URL]http://www.academia.edu/4338139/John_Mac_Dougalls_sex_industry_report[/URL][/QUOTE]Is this report a recent one?

I just take the example of Merdika which is quoted 150 k per session there.

When I was there in February for a few days that s the only brothel I had time to check out and I had the same exprience than OmBule on this and was quoted 300 k by the papasan.

Sorry but this place is shit.

Only a few girls which I wouldn't mind if they were attractive but they were all dogs.

I didn't bother bargaining and left right away.

Quite sad to see Stadium go, I hope something similar can rise from it's ashes. Last legs, yes. I was told, it was to be closed last year. My last post stems from over a year ago, indirectly warning about this being on the cards. A little later than anticipated.

Great read indeed, the academic findings on North Jakarta. It says it is 10 years old. 2004. I can see some info still holds value, some not. Venues like 1001 have disappeared altogether.

BTW I politely disagree with the level of research, he could have plugged a bit deeper? Like, the "uncontrolled train tracks" at Jatinegara and the women sex workers, he refers to. I guess about 75% of the sex workers lined up around the tracks in Jatinegara are technically not women. They do dress like women, that is true.

Since the trouble in Thailand I desided to give Jakarta a try. Got in late yesturday and had a problem with with my safe at the hotel so was only able to go to M block which was near my hotel. If this is the worst area then I going to love it when I go to BATS tonite. Was able to hook up with a short cutie that night and got the number of a dark skin girl with a big booty and chest which I met in the evening. Thanks for vitamin v I should have another good time.

[QUOTE=DickHertz;1571498]Since the trouble in Thailand I desided to give Jakarta a try. Got in late yesturday and had a problem with with my safe at the hotel so was only able to go to M block which was near my hotel. If this is the worst area .[/QUOTE]That's far from the worst area. If anything, it's the best area in all of Indonesia for a westerner.

Hey everyone,

I'm actually a veteran of Jakarta itself, but not of the mongering scene. In all honesty I've never done it before, but seeing as everyone seems to have positive experiences I thought it would be best to give it a whizz.

I did try once going to. I think it was hotel classic? One of the hotels where on the top floor there is basically walls lined with women and mamasans just waiting. It was pushy as fuck and I felt really uncomfortable (I'm a really tall bule so I stick out in general anyway). I did once try Jl. Felatehan but that too felt a little odd to me. I'm unsure of it was just 'when' I went or where, so if anyone could clarify for me that would help.

I suppose it doesn't help that I actually don't have office hours (self-employed basically) and my 'needs' arise pretty much anytime / anywhere. Don't suppose there are places that would cater for such a thing? Even tried finding professional girlfriends (I think you call them P4 P) as I am fine with overly-clingy (prefer it) but really have no idea where / what / how.

The only two things that really do count against me is being really tall (even though my bahasa is decent it still intimidates a lot of women, WTS or otherwise) and that I'm a tad too sensitive to facial expressions / body language. Basically if I can see they really aren't into it for whatever reason (uncomfortable / shy / whatever) then that is an instant sex-drive killer. That doesn't mean I immediately go "I'm paying, so of course they are lying", I'm happy to believe in the lie but they just need to be good / professional liars. Not trying to be a picky fuck, I just know what I can and can't do.

Given all this I don't suppose there are any pointers why'all could provide for a guy that basically just needs his needs sated so he can concentrate on fucking work? I have no idea why but whenever I am in Jakarta I always get way too horny for my own good.

[QUOTE=JustTrying2;1571768]Hey everyone,

I'm actually a veteran of Jakarta itself, but not of the mongering scene. In all honesty I've never done it before, but seeing as everyone seems to have positive experiences I thought it would be best to give it a whizz... Given all this I don't suppose there are any pointers why'all could provide for a guy that basically just needs his needs sated so he can concentrate on fucking work? I have no idea why but whenever I am in Jakarta I always get way too horny for my own good.[/QUOTE]JustTrying2,

Are you seriously trying? You're bound to be told to RTFF. Within the last 4 pages of reports (e.g.#8320) you have various options available. From Mandarin Oriental bar on ladies night to MS giving a brief guide on page 4 (as it reads currently). You have options on dating (both P4P and non P4P) as well as a whole host of information in the Reports of Distinction (They call it ROD for a good reason). Did you read HappilyMarried's post? He was having lunch and dinner dates too. If you want a tour of Jakarta after dark, get in touch with the man himself. Jakarta After Dark or JAD. He can give you a run down of options and inform you of more places than most of us have heard of. It might be the best way for you to spend money to save money in the end.

Incidentally it's the funniest thing to hear that a bule can't find a girl in Jakarta. Seriously? Just cast off that mantle of uncertainty and be more forward. They'll literally be falling into your lap. Malls and shops are your buffet table, whether it's shop assistants, sales promotion girls or even girls wandering around. Catch someone's eye and smile. If they smile back, move in and offer a coffee / meal / whatever;). Over the coffee, make your move. It's all a matter of putting yourself out there. Incidentally, you don't have to young and good looking; I'll be hitting 50 this year, I'm not a bule and have no problems. So it should be a breeze for you.

Seriously give JAD a buzz and have a tour.

MD II.

I have RTFF fairly extensively but it is rather difficult to translate text on a screen to something I have never really had to do before; hence my rather clumsy / ham-fisted approaches so far.

The only issues on my being bule is the whole height scaring some, and I don't deny that I do get attention and don't really fear being rebuked as such, but it is more what kind of women frequent where. It seems to be a general mish-mash though as to what and where. I've had a few lokal pacars in the past and goddamn they were awesome nymphs for the most part; really sad that those ended (left country; I'm in / out a lot) but yeah just trying to cut through that whole dating shtick this time around.

Would my assumption that Top Gun / BATS / CJ's would have what I am looking for be accurate? I'm super not fussed on looks, and that whole good service / GFE is the only driving factor here. But I have read conflicting reports that there have been plenty of starfishing / no kissing / etc.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1572101]JustTrying2,

Are you seriously trying? You're bound to be told to RTFF. Within the last 4 pages of reports (e.g.#8320) you have various options available. From Mandarin Oriental bar on ladies night to MS giving a brief guide on page 4 (as it reads currently). You have options on dating (both P4P and non P4P) as well as a whole host of information in the Reports of Distinction (They call it ROD for a good reason). Did you read HappilyMarried's post? He was having lunch and dinner dates too. If you want a tour of Jakarta after dark, get in touch with the man himself. Jakarta After Dark or JAD. He can give you a run down of options and inform you of more places than most of us have heard of. It might be the best way for you to spend money to save money in the end....[/QUOTE]

So, gave Top Gun and the's a whizz.

Personally I found a lot of the girls in Top Gun oddly cold. Standing against the wall and not really engaging in much eye contact; most looked bored. However in saying that there were some serious gems (energetic and pretty to boot), which of course were snapped up pretty damn quick.

Went over to the's (apparently they do some sort of card raffle thing for a free visit to the back room? Didn't quite follow) and oddly enough I found the girls far sluttier / active in general. I got cornered by someone to the VIP room I actually was rather keen on but then three of her friends wanted to 'stand guard' and that put me off, asked for a little more privacy and that apparently started some bitching between the girls so I had to leave.

Went back to Top Gun (these two bars are opposite each other) and was eyed up by a girl who had a pretty enough face and acted interest enough for me to give it a whirl (no English really, mostly bahasa). Took her back and she was actually trying fairly hard to be accommodating but as we got to talking I noted scars on her wrist and It went south from there. Basically a lovely chat, I wanted to make her smile, and she left with 200 k (not out of pity or pre-arranged bargaining, the night's experience was actually worth $20 to me).

Overall the night wasn't really wasted (even though I didn't get what I set out for) and both places had their pros / cons. Experiences are experiences, and I enjoyed it nonetheless. The's actually got me 'aroused' and I seriously considered just getting blown in the VIP room, I think it was the general energy, but yeah just didn't happen. The energy in Top Gun was rather hard for me to pin down (I actually found myself enjoying the band) and it really felt like I would have to wade through a lot to find a gem. Again there were some there, but they were already taken.

Haha, if the two guys I saw outside TG read this I'm sorry one of you got the ugly one, but holy shit your mate took home a right stunner.

Will probably try BATS / CJ's next (I think they are supposed to be the higher class bars).

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If you are young and tall, you are wasting your time at places like Top Gun with those kampung girls. Go to X2 at Plaza Senayan, Immigrant at plaza indonesia or DragonFly or even Red Square. Those girls will throw themselves at a tall young guy, they speak English, and they are far better looking.

I was planning on my maiden trip to Jakarta from June 28th to July 1st. I just found out that will be the start of Ramadan. Are all of the venues going to be closed? I am looking to try spas like Travel and classic as well as some if the mid range bars near Blok M. I need to figure out if I should postpone for a visit letter in the year.

Thanks

I arrived in Jakarta on a Sunday, stay at Win hotel in blok M area 405 k stardard room. I wanted to follow in the footsteps of a gentleman who was quite successful hunting at Blok M Plaza, all I can say is kudos to him as he succeeded where I failed miserably. I went to the mall at 5-6 pm and I didn't see many attractive women, further I didn't see any that seemed to be on the "game" with the circling behaviour seen in the Phil. So after 1-2 hrs I gave up. If he can give some extra pointers like time and days best for hunting that would be appreciated. Next I Checked out the's and Top Gun, this was around 9 pm, the talent was terrible mainly oldies or fatties, maybe all up 10-12 ladies, beers were 50 k each, had one in each bar, no dancers at the's. Also stuck my head into My Place, Everest, Sportsman, seems the only guys there were the owners and their friends def no ladies.

I was told Sundays X2 is closed so I went to Red Square, again totally dead, 3 guys no ladies and a drink was 150 k, quite expensive. I was told if you are young and tall, you should do quite well here as the ladies throw themselves as such men, I am slighty above averqge in age, height and looks, so I don't know if I fit the description but at 150 k a drink, I wonder if my total costs for scoring a lady would be under what I would pay for a lady outright, even if I was "tall" and "young".

Next I went to Cj, again 140 k for a beer, saw plenty of attractive ladies but nothing outstanding, and they were in the mid to late 20's range, but also plenty of average looking ladies also, but talling to one of the patrons he told me he just negotiated with one of the better looking women and she wanted 1.5 J Short time, no willing to drop, this was about 1 pm. I mainly went for observational purposes, so end of might spent 500 k in drinks and taxi with no results.

Monday I moved over to the Kalpa Gading area stayed at BnB hotel 430 k, first I went to Sumo massage, was told there was two category the 450 k and the 950 k range, definately some lookers in the 950 k range and 1 possible in the 450 k range however I don't partake, next I went to MTR2, the standard girls was 330 k, the freelancers was 500 k, some lookers in the 500 k range, but I spotted a new gem in the 330 k cat, she is new, 20 yrs old slim and tall, in the bedroom, BBBJ, GFE kissing and daty. Cost 330 k plus my drink 30 k + tips 100 k however she didn't ask for a tip. Total 460 k.

I then went to Kings Cross, 60 k cover charge before 7 pm after its 75 k refundable if taking a girl. Went to the ground floor two category of girls 335 k and 500 k+ range, plenty of attractive girls in both category. Next I went to level 2 which is the massage rooms plenty of attractive girls in the 500 kish price. The 3rd level with the dancers the LD are 50 k each, 2 LDs and you get a quick lapdance, in my view not worth it, the dancers are 1.2 j pretty hot but not sure if they worth 4 times the 335 k girls, same with the import girls thereabouts 1.2 j but they looked pretty average to me, def not worth the price. End of the night drinks+ meals + cover charge 300 k as I didn't take a girl.

Today I explored the area, heard there was 3 full service massage places.

The'heaven.

The don't have photos on site but can choose girls from their website, the place is a bit hard to find, total cost for plus plus massage was quoted as 500 ish, can't choose girl from line up have to look at website and record number.

Eiddleweise.

Here the girls are 350 k, only about 4-5 girls shown in the photo album only one looks possible, in my mind not worth the risk given proximity to other more popular establishments.

White Mutaria.

6-7 girls in the album, they are heavily photoshoped, again quoted as 350 k, in my view no worth the hidden risk.

I then went to Kings cross at 7 pm, chose a 335 k lady, small slim girls 21 yrs old, nice breast, again GFE kissing BBBJ, daty, multiple positions and unrushed. I definately saw a few possible future targets in the 330 k range, when I left later in the night the bill was 410 k for the girl, 2 redbulls and tax.

I next went to a local indonesian KTV, I went in asked prices small room 200 k, girl fee 95 k (min 2 hrs), beers 50 k, and most importantly takeout is 600 k St and 1 j LT so this is definately a option for guys looking for LT, imo better than going to BATS or CJ as the girls are of similar quality.

So, tried Tuesday night at MO Bar.

About this I can only categorically say that there is a 'far' higher quality of women running around. Most of them really just wanted some fun, some wanted 'long-term', and only a few just wanted taxi fare (100 k) as a form of compensation. I was perhaps a tad too brash / direct in asking them if they were pelacur (I don't like beating around the Bush) and did scare a few off but those that stayed seem keen. The night was even such that when I already had more than enough woman to shake a stick at I was still nudged on my way to pay the bill by other things.

Might have something to do with me being young and tall, but it was a fucking welcome experience regardless. Kudos to the man that found out about ladies night at MO Bar. If anyone knows more like this that'd be brilliant.

I'm posting this more to express enjoyment at a specific part of the mongering scene that seems to fit my bill (half-way between straight pay-for-play and women who are interested in bule).

I did try red square but the two times I went it was literally standing room only and no real capacity to sit and enjoy / scan the scene. May try immigrant / X2 next. Thanks for that Smoothy.

[QUOTE=SadSam;1572861]I need to figure out if I should postpone for a visit letter in the year.
Thanks[/QUOTE] MD addressed this here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2508-Travel-Announcements-Only-%28No-questions-or-comments-please%29&p=1571179&viewfull=1#post1571179

[i]Please keep in mind that the fasting month of Ramadan begins around June 28th, so the Stadium, Kartika and most of the other saunas will be closed from June 25th onwards, to reopen in August.".

In fact, most of the spas and MPs may shut down by June 23rd, with the girls leaving town to return to their home villages for 5-6 weeks, which might severely impact your evening activities.

Some of the higher-end hotel spas, such as Hotel Alexis and Hotel Malioboro, should still be open. I'm not sure about Hotel Travel (not far from Harmoni) or Hotel Classic, but in general the mongering scene will be much quieter than you might had expected. [/i]

I just noticed that HappilyMarried's FR #8310 seems to have disappeared. Does anyone know why? The title and post is still there but that's it. The actual FR has gone.

MD II.

The problem is not Jakarta, young jedi. The problem is you. I second MDII's observations. And would add that if you start getting drunk on your ass you'll be much more successful, assuming you don't get rolled by your date or your taxi driver.

Following up on your question about ladies' nights, try C.J.'s on Wednesdays. The women get in free, although I think they have to pay for their drinks. When I was staying at the Mulia it was worth checking out. Also the bar in the Ritz Carlton used to have something similar on Friday's, and may still. It was much more hit and miss at the Ritz though.

I'll repost a comment I made about Ramadan a year or two ago.

"First day off Ramadan, middle day off the four weeks, and the first day of Eid tends to be the main problem days when most places are closed. BATS is open during these "quiet" days, and although all the lights are on and the music is subdued, there is a small number of girls. There is no cover charge for those three days so you can go in, have a look and leave pretty quickly if nothing catches your eye. But be aware, the pickings are slim, and tend to be the hard core girls.".

Not to sure about the spas, only one I've ever been to is Alexis, and not over Ramadan.

[QUOTE=SadSam;1572861]I was planning on my maiden trip to Jakarta from June 28th to July 1st. I just found out that will be the start of Ramadan. Are all of the venues going to be closed? I am looking to try spas like Travel and classic as well as some if the mid range bars near Blok M. I need to figure out if I should postpone for a visit letter in the year.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I've been to Jakarta before but couldn't get into any fun. My questions for those in the know is do the places like Malioboro and Alexis accept VISA / MasterCard?

I'm imagining that these places are something like Macau saunas. Am I off in my estimation?

[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1574175]I've been to Jakarta before but couldn't get into any fun. My questions for those in the know is do the places like Malioboro and Alexis accept VISA / MasterCard?

I'm imagining that these places are something like Macau saunas. Am I off in my estimation?[/QUOTE]Both places accept VISA and MasterCard. In fact, all the naughty shops in Kota area accept them.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1573142]I just noticed that HappilyMarried's FR #8310 seems to have disappeared. Does anyone know why? The title and post is still there but that's it. The actual FR has gone.

MD II.[/QUOTE]MD II, I noticed that as well. I wonder if I upset someone during my travels or have hooked up with someone's gf and took offence? Does the Admin accept requests to remove posts?

HM (confused).

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[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1574175]I've been to Jakarta before but couldn't get into any fun. My questions for those in the know is do the places like Malioboro and Alexis accept VISA?[/QUOTE]Snip.

Yes they do accept visa and, to a lesser extent, MasterCard.

I'm in Jakarta next week (only been a few times and never had time to go out. And will hook up with a local student I've met before. She's has an exhibitionist side she wants to make more of but she's not experienced. So we're looking for a club where we can get really friendly. Maybe BJ or even fuck. In a dark corner. Without too much risk. I don't think she'll want somewhere 'sleazy' (though I'd be happy. If it's clean). So a 'regular' club where no one cares that people go wild? Do you guys have any recommendations?

I'm a 40's white European. She's 20's Indonesian.

I'll post a report.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1573142]I just noticed that HappilyMarried's FR #8310 seems to have disappeared. Does anyone know why? The title and post is still there but that's it. The actual FR has gone.

MD II.[/QUOTE]This is a repost of my previous FR after it was not migrated across when a software upgrade was done. Originally I thought someone had taken offence to my report because it looked like it was removed. Thanks to Admin (Jackson) for clarifying the situation. I've also fixed up a few typos and some grammar but sure I've still missed some too! There are also a few updates.

Guys,

I've just arrived back home after 7 nights in Jakarta. It's my first proper FR so hope it will be fun to read. Just a bit of background on myself and preferences first. I'm a 40 year old Aussie guy with passable looks, clean cut, and reasonable fitness, in summary, average. After many encounters in different countries I prefer the full GFE versus the spas or brothels. I try to target 28 to 35 year old office worker type girls, ones which can hold a decent conversation with me in English but are not too inquisitive. This usually means that they are divorced single mothers often with current Bule partners or have had them in the past. As far a physical appearance, I tend to go for the more average build with curves. Even if there is a bit of excess, then I do enjoy as I'm getting older and prefer the limousine versus the Ferrari ride these days.

I have a mate (male friend from school days) in Jakarta and this has proved to be a good "excuse" with the girls to move on to my next date. I've used DIA and IndoCupid before with success but this trip I stuck to DIA.

My strategy, which I'm sure has been used in the past by other members here is as follows -.

1) DIA Profile – description of who you are should read that you are polite, respectful, friendly, and open minded and are looking for someone similar. I've found that mentioning "open minded" is more subtle than asking for NSA so it works well. Either the girl will know what "open minded" means or will ask to confirm.

2) Many is better than one – I've found that in general some of the girls are clingy and that even myself if I find a good match then I'm likely to see her again. In fact in my previous trip I spend 4 nights with one girl. Well, that's not really what I set out to do. So, try not to stick with one girl, you can have fun with many more.

3) Lunch Date and Dinner Date – I tried to squeeze 2 dates into one day. It did leave me very tired but I managed this for a few days. The "lunch or dinner with my mate" excuse was used many times to move on to the next date but make sure you mention this to her in advance of your date. She won't mind.

Now, here is my diary of how things went.

Saturday.

After some drinks at FX Harris Hotel Surdiman with my mate we headed to CJs. It was better than I expected with a good band and lots of working girls. They were not mingling looking for business but were there should the mood take us all lined up at the back. After a couple of overpriced beers we headed to Blok M. For some reason it's where I prefer to head to finish the night. We went to MyBar as this is where my mate who is a regular gets well looked after by the staff. After picking a nice very small (I'd say not a touch over 40 kg) girl we had some tequila shots. This was apparently too much for her and she ended up in the bathroom sick. Time to find another girl. As I was lazy I asked the mamasan to get me a girl, tipped her 50 k. The pick was nice with a 170 cm long haired beauty with agreed price of 800 k. When arriving back at FX Harris I got into it. A nice but hesitant BBBJ and I could tell she was new to the game. Following about 20 minutes of pounding she said she needed to go to the bathroom. She was taking longer than expected and then suddenly she came out of the bathroom making a direct exit for the door! What happened? I think it was all too much for her. She asked for no money, just left. This has happened to me on more than one occasion so I'm wondering what it is with me? Anyway, I had a contact from DIA who made it clear she was available at a rate so I hit her up on whatsapp, agreed on 800 k for 2 shots and within 45 minutes she was at my hotel. By the time I finished my second shot, the sun was pouring through the glass windows. A good if not strange night!

Sunday.

1 pm.

DIA date "Vera" who was a nice Chinese girl was first cab off the rank. Beautiful white skin and nice tight body but not so "solid" as some Chinese girls tend to have making them look more manly then they should! She came to FX Mall at 1 pm and we had lunch. Without me knowing, she'd made plans to see her friend who was leaving the country. Oh well, lucked out on her but kept her warm just in case as she made it very clear in words she was ready to jump in bed with me "next time" Seems like she was doing the interviewing rather than me. Not the way it should be! She was msging me from 9 pm onwards that night asking to come to the hotel. Ended up I'd never see her again because I would be too busy with other dates including that evening.

6 pm.

Date was set with my DIA girl "Ellen" She was a 36 year old, never married, no kids professional girl with good English. Definitely a nice chat in the pub under FX (Bloemberg? And then I prompted subtly to go upstairs and she latched on. I love it when a chic brings her overnight bag with her on the first date. So, after the first round we went for dinner downstairs and then back to the room for another round before a good sleep together.

In the morning, we had a quick romp before she went to work. After my flight and late night on Saturday, I think I slept more than she was hoping I would! We still keep in touch and she will be visiting me here in December.

Monday.

1 pm.

Date set with DIA girl "Fitri" (not her real name). Now I knew this one was going to be hard work and would probably amount to nothing but I thought I'd try anyway. Even though I made it clear I was not looking for anything serious I don't think the message got through. A nice lunch followed by a movie (my first 4 D movie and it was awesome! Captain America). Nothing much more to write about here. Don't know why I bothered other than some "pleasant" company over lunch and the movie. Kept up the nice guy image.

Update. Just the polite occasional Hello, every couple of weeks on WA.

10 pm.

On my previous 2 visits I have made contact with a girl called "Hanny" - indo Chinese. I help her with her English homework so in my mind, she kind of owes me. The first time I was in Jakarta she was not up for anal but the second time I made it a condition for her to see me. She is 39, super tight body as she's at the gym everyday, and she doesn't say no to anything. It's gotten to the point where I'll probably not see her next time as there is no challenge or resistance anymore. She stayed over and again in the morning the same was had. Update. Don't keep in touch with her and she does her own homework now.

Tuesday.

3 pm.

Looking back, this was my most interesting experience. 32 yr old office girl, in Thamrin Residence Level 3. Her DIA "status" said "complicated" which translates to her only looking for NSA fun – perfect. She made it clear what she wanted from the time we started chatting. She has a guy in Canada who apparently just doesn't deliver for her. She liked to play "rough" We met out the front of family mart, got the beers and other essentials and made our way up to level 5 pool area at which point the tornado ripped through Thamrin that afternoon. We finished our beers, she was very frank with what she wanted. She was indeed rough getting to the point of choking me and also asking me to hit her. Whilst I didn't quite meet that request fully I did play rough with her. Two shots during a full on 2 hr play session like I've never had before.

Once finished, she took me on her motorbike to meet my next date in Kota Casablanca Great service.

Update. Still keep in touch and will pay for her to come to Sing next time I am there. She wants to film us next time on the condition of us wearing masks. Now if that's not incentive enough to upgrade to become a senior member on this forum I don't know what is!

6 pm.

DIA date "Ulfa" 38 yrs old who I actually developed a nice relationship with over the last year via whatsapp I finally met. Very shy small girl, not much over 40 kg. Terrible teeth but could forgive her as body was dark and tight. Again, as with the others, I made my conditions of seeing me clear. In case you haven't figured it out I do like to do anal with the girls. Picked up my bag and travelled to Kemang FavHotel for just one night. A nice dinner at the mediteranian resto there with not much chat due to her limited english and her shynesss. Back to the hotel and I've never met a more horny girl than her before. She struggled with back door but kept to her promise and took it. The same again in the morning and she left.

Update. Now this is funny, she "accidentally" created a viber group with all her "guys" on it. There were about a dozen and I just stood back and listened to them all have a nice chat about their experiences with her. Not such a nice girl after all.

Wednesday.

By this time I'd moved to Kemang Icon.

1 pm.

28 yr old DIA date Jenny. Another stunning Chinese girl and plenty of chat on whatsapp indicating she was up for it but when it came down to business, no dice. We went to Pizza Murano in Kemang and had a good chat. She had taken the whole day off work, went to the spa in the morning, had her hair and nails done and her skin was glowing white. I thought it was a sure thing after all her "preparation" for the date. Conversation flowed well, we went back to the hotel. Inside the room we kissed, fondled etc but she was hesitant to let me touch her anywhere else. She then apologised and said she couldn't go through with it. I said "no worries, we will keep in touch. " A shame, this girl was a stunner and I'm sure if I'd stayed longer or been working in Jakarta longer term I could have got her.

6 pm.

DIA date "Riskia" (27 yrs) promised to be an interesting one. The more I got to know her on whatsapp the more worried I became! Pics of toys, her in bondage gear. I was thinking I'd find myself a specialised working girl which I did not really want. She came from her office in Thamrin and picked me up along the way from my hotel and headed to Vin+. She was a nice girl in person, a vivacious chatty office girl. Vin+ was a great place, cheese platters etc. And free flowing wine from 6 to 9 pm. I'd recommend Vin+. Cost was 300 K each but waived by her marketing friend at the door. After 9 pm I purchased one more bottle and after that we went back to the hotel on her request. As with Tuesdays Thamrin Residence girl, this one was just as wild. She didn't bring here toys but took it every which way I gave it to her including the back door. She wasnt a small girl, I'm guessing just shy of 60 kg but was so much fun. I used the zip ties I had for my luggage on her and used her properly in every hole. She left in the morning after I fucked her in the ass one more time. "You naughty" is the phrase I'll remember from her.

Update. Keep in touch regularly and will definitely see her next time I'm in Sing. Such a cute and pretty face.

Thursday.

5 pm.

Joice picked me up from her work near "Karet" busway station. She was a DIA date I didn't get around to last year and to be honest was thinking of skipping her this time around too. But, I'm glad I didn't. She's a 33 yr year old girl and our personalities clicked immediately. We had dinner at "trattoria" in Kuningan outside as she's a smoker (each to their own but I prefer non smokers). I wasn't sure where the night would go as it was a last minute decision for us both to meet. I asked if she wanted to stay with me but she said she couldn't as she didn't have a change of clothes. She offered to take me back to Kunginan and I graciously accepted. After some gentle pressure / convincing her to come to my room she was persuaded. Some shy contact with her but I had her interest. I had a shower because I'd just spent the day at Manga Dua shopping. Offered her a shower too and she came out fully clothed as she was before. At this point I'd given up. I thought to myself, at least I got to meet her after over one year of whatsapp chat, even if it comes to nothing it was nice. After a bit more gentle kissing on the bed I felt around to her ass. What. No knickers! Perfect. She asked if I had a condom and I broke open the new pack of 12 (of which I hadn't used at all this trip yet, very bad of me and I need to watch myself as I'm getting too relaxed with this). Some very gentle love making as it was clear she hadn't done for quite a while and I finished off with good strong doggy on her. She immediately dressed and said she needed to go home. The perfect date but I did feel a bit used.

Update. Keeping her warm for next time.

Friday.

3 pm.

Throughout the week, a LINE contact I'd met on Tagged earlier in the year (January) kept on pinging me but not in a persistent way that I really don't enjoy. She was subtle but just asking for coffee and at least to meet. I almost did not agree to meet her, I was stupid. Her name was "Windy" 20 year old student who lived in Kuningan. We agreed to meet each other at Pacific Plaza and within 45 minutes she was there. Wow. Absolute stunner, the best of the week. I was in awe of her and I think she was also pretty happy to see me. It was really like a shy first date. She was dressed in a one piece red dress with a zipper down the back and a nice set of heels which she could really wear with style and confidence (many women cannot). Her body was not not small, but it was really shapely. The best I've heard indo women described and it's so true is "the Latinas of SE asia" - and this was Windy. Tits, Ass, Legs, and long flowing hair on a 20 yr old tight ripe body. Give her another 5 years and I'm sure she will blow out. I asked what she was doing all night and weekend and she said she's totally free but has to be home at 11 pm. Perfect I thought to myself, a good time to hit Blok M should nothing eventuate with her.

We saw a movie in Blitz where they have the "beds" and some action was had there to show she was very keen. Following the movie she agreed straight away to come back to Kemang with me. Immediately the obvious happened and her words "nice to finally meet you and fuck" still ring in my ear! I was thinking. The pleasure is all mine but of course played it cool After that we hit Murphys for some music and then to EP for dinner. She was keen to meet my friend and it was a bit awkward as we were meeting at Blok M. So, I suggested to him we meet at Everest, the only non working girl bar there I know. She was not impressed with the place but still went up to sing with the band. At 1 am she excused herself and I walked her out to get a taxi near the bus station. We agreed to meet the next day.

Friday / Saturday 1 am.

My mate and I hit the regular "MyBar" in Blok M. I have to say, on the occassions I've gone there we get very well looked after as far as table service but the selection of girls is not so impressive. I had to delay my urges for a couple of hours as his workmates (some female) were there – I guess they are pretty open minded going to a place like that. So, I crossed over to Top Gun. Whoever said the girls there are not good I would say half of them I'd be happy to take home with me. Ok, maybe my standards are not high but there was definitely a good picking of girls there. I picked a taller (170 cm) 23 yr old Chinese looking girl and took her over to MyBar. After a couple of drinks settled on 800 K with agreement that a morning session would be had. Service was pretty good but nothing like the "dates" I'd had during the week. The "dates" were a lot more fun and heaps better in bed. In the morning another session was had and money handed over.

Saturday.

2 pm.

I checked into Condotel at Thamrin Residences as my flight was a midnight flight back home. I wanted somewhere cheap and closer to the airport than Kemang. I met "Windy" (20 yr old student) at Festival Plaza where we had Padang food (I love the stuff). After having my fill of Rendang she wanted to take me around her neighbourhood. Walked around EpiCentrum Plaza, saw where Liquid Exchange Bar is and then she took me to the apartment complex where she lives with her sister and brother in law. At this point I was thinking she is taking this all a bit too serious but I played along with it. She wanted to show me all the places she took pics of for me and sent via LINE app. Walked around the pool area and introduced me to her nieghbours she met as her "boyfriend" I thought it was kind of sweet and I was weary of getting reeled in as still to this day I'm not sure if she's in the game with many others or really I was her sole focus for the last few months. I had a feeling the later was true but I've been around Indo women long enough to know it's hard to trust them Anyway, we headed back to CondoTel for one last round and when it was time for me to go she actually started crying! I didn't know what to do or think but at this point she was really doing my head in! I dropped her home in Kuningan with the semi promise of seeing her in her Uni holidays in September but it's unlikely.

Update. The occasional Hello, from her and question of why I don't keep in touch with her so much. She was perfect but high maintenance emotionally so I won't see her again.

Well, that ended my one week in Jakarta.

My total was exactly 10 girls bedded (8 DIA and 2 P4 P) and 3 dud dates which were Chinese girls. Not bad for 7 nights in Jakarta. I do really enjoy the dating scene a lot more than P4 P. I figure, if the girl likes you well enough to make her own mind up to sleep with you then the sex is always better and it definitely was. I had no dud starfish girls and if I had to rate them then the P4 P would come in the last 2 positions but even they were pretty good.

Jakarta just keeps on getting better and better.

And they all play the name game change.

For example Classic is called "NEW CLS" and Malio is called "GLOBAL ARTA BERJAYA".

[QUOTE=Bule2004;1574496]Snip.

Yes they do accept visa and, to a lesser extent, MasterCard. [/QUOTE]

I am back home now in USA. Have an interesting BATS story so here it goes.

This was a couple Fridays ago. I had come back from Bali for 5 days and had a couple more days in Jakarta until the flight home. So I decided to try BATS at Shangri LA.

I got there about 11 I think. I was somewhat early but the band was playing and everything. Blond hair Australian band. For some reason they didn't do it for me.

I made my way in and slowly scanned the scene. The talent is mainly that 25-39 somewhat older working girl types. Nothing really jumped out at me. Had a beer and just hung for a while to see what is there. It amazes me how expensive booze is in Jakarta. Ouch. I talked to a couple here and there and an older 6 range girl hit on me but that was about it.

Then I made my way to the back bar on the left as you are looking at band. I look at the bar and see a goddess. LOL. Where did she come from? 20 years old. If you see her there she has a tattoo on her left collar bone area. Really hot. Anyway I latch onto her right away and bullshit. Her English was not good. She works at one of the karaoke bars on Block M. Think she goes for big fish Asian guys. I was not really working here real hard but slowly throwing in conversation here and there. Her bad English made it tough. While this is going on guys are buzzing around me. Haha. I think to grab her. She left at one point and then came back. One guy was at the bar just waiting to grab her I could tell. Maybe it was one of you on here bastards. LOL. Well I said what the heck lets try for all night and see where this goes even though her English sucked. 2 million. Not a penny less. I said 1. 5. nope. Haha. Out of principle I said no. Then the guy at the bar instantly throws her a line and game over. I see her with her arms around him 10 minutes later. I notice the girls reel in guys with the arms around the neck move. I can tell the actresses. So I assume the guy paid the 2 million.

I then went back to the other bar and got a pretty good one that was all over me. Actress. She was pretty good but back in room not as good as in bar. We all know that routine. She wanted to leave early so I refused to pay 1. 5 million. I know way to high but I was burned out on negotiating after the hot one. She left early with 1 million.

Overall the girls at BATS and CJs seem hard bargainers to me. I was only at those 2 places once but I heard 2 million and 1. 5 a lot. I know most will come down but the really hot ones probably won't because there are so many business guys who don't know the prices.

On a few occasions in Malio club, I have seen non working girls there.

One type a hot bunch of Brazilians, just there for a perve before hitting nightclubs.

Another time an american guy and his Malaysian GF. They were there looking to pickup another girl and take her to the room, they didn't score other than the girl opening her top and the stripper rubbing their boobs together and sucking each others nipples, They went across the road to the 3rd floor of Stadium did score.

So, I recommend Malio club, part of Malioboro, for a perve and a grope only and its clean and very well organised. Maybe its where you start the night to warm up, before going somewhere seedy-ish in Kota. If no-one else makes any other recommendations, out of all the dark nightlcubs I recommend Milles, there plenty of normal and working girls there that will satisfy your desires below, although you got to be prepared for the unique loud Kota music they play.

[QUOTE=RFCastillo;1574569]I'm in Jakarta next week (only been a few times and never had time to go out. And will hook up with a local student I've met before. She's has an exhibitionist side she wants to make more of but she's not experienced. So we're looking for a club where we can get really friendly. Maybe BJ or even fuck. In a dark corner. Without too much risk. I don't think she'll want somewhere 'sleazy' (though I'd be happy. If it's clean). So a 'regular' club where no one cares that people go wild? Do you guys have any recommendations?

I'm a 40's white European. She's 20's Indonesian.

I'll post a report. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve99;1574791]
Overall the girls at BATS and CJs seem hard bargainers to me. I was only at those 2 places once but I heard 2 million and 1. 5 a lot. I know most will come down but the really hot ones probably won't because there are so many business guys who don't know the prices. [/QUOTE]Years ago, there was a time when they wouldn't negotiate price. The girls were accustomed to the local expats treating them fairly, so they didn't negotiate (some did, but not the majority). The days of the internet informing the general public about the scene in Jakarta and the influx of sex tourists has changed that. It seemed that some of the sex tourists are not nearly as fair with the girls. And were either not paying the girls at all or giving them very low amounts if the girls didn't negotiate up front. The girls are now hard bargainers. It's a shame. One of the best things about Jakarta was that the girls did not negotiate so it seemed more GFE. Now it's not much different from Thailand or the Philippines. And the prices for the girls have gone WAY up.

I agree with you about the girls at Bats asking for 2 million these days. And you are right that the girls there are older, normally 25 to 40. On any given night, there may be 2 or 3 stunners there worth taking home. It sounds like you may have found one of those in that 20 year old. Those stunners will want no less than 1. 5 million. When I read on here that people are taking those girls for 500 k, I can only imagine how ugly or old those girls are. If you want a stunner there, they are not 500 k.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1572904]I arrived in Jakarta on a Sunday, stay at Win hotel in blok M area 405 k stardard room. I wanted to follow in the footsteps of a gentleman who was quite successful hunting at Blok M Plaza, all I can say is kudos to him as he succeeded where I failed miserably. I went to the mall at 5-6 pm and I didn't see many attractive women, further I didn't see any that seemed to be on the "game" with the circling behaviour seen in the Phil. So after 1-2 hrs I gave up. If he can give some extra pointers like time and days best for hunting that would be appreciated. [/QUOTE]Good luck with that, I have asked him on a couple of occasions to give more specific details of where and when to pick up in Blok M Plaza and he has never replied.

Blok M Plaza is a mall with which I am very familiar having been visiting the place for the past ten years, like anywhere in Jakarta for a bule with money burning a hole in his pocket, time on his hands and his wits about him it's a place where every now and again you might meet someone nice. A bit like the Busway or Carrefour on a Saturday afternoon, if you really make the effort once in a while you might just strike lucky.

Occasionally in Blok M Plaza you might get a hint from an obvious "ayam" in the late evening on her way to work nearby, or catch the eye of an office lady spending a little bit of time over a coffee in one of the cafes and self-consciously checking her BBM, but the almost casual "let's drop into Blok M Plaza at any hour of the day or night and pick up a hot Sundanese or Javanese teenager who's just passing through for immediate sex in my hotel room" hook-ups that he describes, no, I've never seen that, nor have any Blok M regulars that I know, and judging by his reluctance to be more specific I kinda have my doubts about the veracity of his posts.

He is definitely scoring somewhere, and they probably aren't out-and-out pros judging by the photos, but wherever he's picking them up I'm pretty certain it isn't Blok M Plaza.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1574941]Years ago, there was a time when they wouldn't negotiate price. The girls were accustomed to the local expats treating them fairly, so they didn't negotiate (some did, but not the majority). The days of the internet informing the general public about the scene in Jakarta and the influx of sex tourists has changed that. It seemed that some of the sex tourists are not nearly as fair with the girls. And were either not paying the girls at all or giving them very low amounts if the girls didn't negotiate up front. The girls are now hard bargainers. It's a shame. One of the best things about Jakarta was that the girls did not negotiate so it seemed more GFE. Now it's not much different from Thailand or the Philippines. And the prices for the girls have gone WAY up.

I agree with you about the girls at Bats asking for 2 million these days. And you are right that the girls there are older, normally 25 to 40. On any given night, there may be 2 or 3 stunners there worth taking home. It sounds like you may have found one of those in that 20 year old. Those stunners will want no less than 1.5 million. When I read on here that people are taking those girls for 500 k, I can only imagine how ugly or old those girls are. If you want a stunner there, they are not 500 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks Smoothy. Good to know I got the general feel of the places correct with your agreeing with me.

Another funny story is I was at CJs and saw this real hot one. I think she had a posse of 4 or 5 girls. She might of been the queen bee. LOL. Anyway she had just showed up and I talked to her for 10 minutes or so. Then her table vodka bottle showed up and she said "you pay? LOL. No I am not buying your bottle. Haha. She whipped out a credit card so she has money. Suffice to say I didn't take her home.

Definitely hotter girls in CJs. If I ever go back to Jakarta I will hit CJs more. I did more cupid girls on the trip and they turned out pretty good. I am more a PI guy so probably go back there in future. Maybe Jakarta-Bali every so often just for a change up.

I know a beautiful escort for Jakarta area.

She have some ads on another web.

Just searching her name by goo*le:

Adelpelangi.

Guarantee will make you satisfied. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Serafimint;1575010]I know a beautiful escort for Jakarta area.

She have some ads on another web.

Just searching her name by goo*le:

Adelpelangi.

Guarantee will make you satisfied. Hehe.[/QUOTE]I have a hunch you're her pimp, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway, I don't understand why that girl you mentioned is asking for 2 juta, when hundreds of thousands (no exaggeration) of girls of similar age and beauty earn 150,000 for every trick.

Another thing, why do locals (even the wealthy Indo-Chinese) pay a quarter of what we pay for exactly the same thing? Why is there double standards for pricing?

Is that adel pelangi girl's pussy made out of gold? Or is her broken English a reason? Or is it that 1 Gucci handbag she has? What exactly justifies her and the other so-called "high class" cewek asking price of 2 juta, when the most they would get out of working a normal job 12 hours daily per month would be 3 juta?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1574941]Years ago, there was a time when they wouldn't negotiate price. The girls were accustomed to the local expats treating them fairly, so they didn't negotiate (some did, but not the majority). The days of the internet informing the general public about the scene in Jakarta and the influx of sex tourists has changed that. It seemed that some of the sex tourists are not nearly as fair with the girls. And were either not paying the girls at all or giving them very low amounts if the girls didn't negotiate up front. The girls are now hard bargainers. It's a shame. One of the best things about Jakarta was that the girls did not negotiate so it seemed more GFE. Now it's not much different from Thailand or the Philippines. And the prices for the girls have gone WAY up[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I remember when it would have seemed downright crass to ask a girl what she charged, you just slipped her 300-500 k as taxi money on the way out. Most of them didn't even count it in front of you. Gentler, softer, more naive times, and long gone.

[QUOTE=GonzoTwo;1575233]Absolutely. I remember when it would have seemed downright crass to ask a girl what she charged, you just slipped her 300-500 k as taxi money on the way out. Most of them didn't even count it in front of you. Gentler, softer, more naive times, and long gone. [/QUOTE]Exactly, can remember that as well when I had my heydays in Jakarta. Was 2001-2006.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1574955]Good luck with that, I have asked him on a couple of occasions to give more specific details of where and when to pick up in Blok M Plaza and he has never replied.

Blok M Plaza is a mall with which I am very familiar having been visiting the place for the past ten years, like anywhere in Jakarta for a bule with money burning a hole in his pocket, time on his hands and his wits about him it's a place where every now and again you might meet someone nice. A bit like the Busway or Carrefour on a Saturday afternoon, if you really make the effort once in a while you might just strike lucky.

Occasionally in Blok M Plaza you might get a hint from an obvious "ayam" in the late evening on her way to work nearby, or catch the eye of an office lady spending a little bit of time over a coffee in one of the cafes and self-consciously checking her BBM, but the almost casual "let's drop into Blok M Plaza at any hour of the day or night and pick up a hot Sundanese or Javanese teenager who's just passing through for immediate sex in my hotel room" hook-ups that he describes, no, I've never seen that, nor have any Blok M regulars that I know, and judging by his reluctance to be more specific I kinda have my doubts about the veracity of his posts.

He is definitely scoring somewhere, and they probably aren't out-and-out pros judging by the photos, but wherever he's picking them up I'm pretty certain it isn't Blok M Plaza.[/QUOTE]I've asked the same questions & spent too many wasted hours hoping to be as lucky as the guy seems to be on any given day. I conclude that Blok M Plaza is absolutely not a good hunting ground one any day, or indeed at any particular location after trudging the many flor again & again! Tbh you'd probably have more luck just spending a few hours in one of the ground floor coffee shops. But is still would not be a sound investment of your time. I'm not discrediting the reporter. Simply reporting what I've found on the several occasions that I've gone in search! Forget Blok M Plaza is my advice.

[QUOTE=Serafimint;1575010]I know a beautiful escort for Jakarta area.

She have some ads on another web.

Just searching her name by goo*le:

Adelpelangi.

Guarantee will make you satisfied. Hehe. [/QUOTE]This is no doubt an ad.

Once again in Jakarta for a short trip, not as much fun and excitement as before but did expand my boundaries a bit, usually I tend to stick around BLOK M and whatever is available either they accompany me for my stay or just for a night. This time around staying in KOTA second time around I figured the lay of the street. There are many massage places in this area not only the ones mentioned (Berlin, etc) but many others perhaps local.

Visited a place next to Berlin don't know the name and the service was decent the girl's name was ATIK she was average with average service but that's expected for the first time.

Also visited another place on the other side of this place I believe it called mamas an, not sure. This girl was quite friendly nice body and nice ass, which I like face wasn't too great but always smiling. Service was great and not rushed.

I also tried the massage pimp outside the IBIS hotel, of the many times I stayed here I decided to try this guy out. Had hime send me 2 girls up to the room so I could choose, actually was going to choose both of them but one wasn't quite appealing. Anyway did choose 1 girl and was surprised she actually gave a good massage, not a rub with oil for 1 minute and then turn over ready for other things. She did take her time and wasn't hurried at all. So another new adventure in Jakarta.

Back to BLOK M hanging out in my usual spot at MY Bar saw quite a few new ladies around and a few I have known for years. Was approached by one girl who quoted 1 M, I was tempted, as she looked nice. Small, nice body, nice smile, could speak English a bit long hair etc. But in the end I didn't as I realized that paying 1 M would upset the economics of Blok M. I read in a previous post that if you get a girl for 500 K then she will be ugly. I must say I disagree with this, met a few girls who were acceptable and in this range on this trip, however having that also met a few who were not that attractive that were in a very high range.

I always try to look for a gem in the crowd sometimes I get lucky sometimes not, just the way it is. But this time around did meet a few new girls that were impressive in their service and time spent with me.

Can't wait to return in December.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1575368]I read in a previous post that if you get a girl for 500 K then she will be ugly. I must say I disagree with this, met a few girls who were acceptable and in this range on this trip, however having that also met a few who were not that attractive that were in a very high range.
. [/QUOTE]That was for BATS, not blok M girls. Blok M girls are about 1/2 the price of BATS girls or less. The last few times I went to Blok M, I didn't find one girl even worth taking home though.

[QUOTE=Lucky7;1575260]I've asked the same questions & spent too many wasted hours hoping to be as lucky as the guy seems to be on any given day. I conclude that Blok M Plaza is absolutely not a good hunting ground one any day, or indeed at any particular location after trudging the many flor again & again! Tbh you'd probably have more luck just spending a few hours in one of the ground floor coffee shops. But is still would not be a sound investment of your time. I'm not discrediting the reporter. Simply reporting what I've found on the several occasions that I've gone in search! Forget Blok M Plaza is my advice.[/QUOTE]It might also be conceivable that he only posts when he's successful in finding a very presentable cewek, and omits the many times that he only gets what you guys have been seeing. As you say, it's all a matter of the time you have and what the opportunity cost is to you. That's why I like to prearrange meetings, so I don't waste time.

MD II.

Ramadan is coming up in June and will be in Jakarta at that time. Bad timing, but no other choice.

Will Classic and Travel be open at night during Ramadan? And how about MPs like Oasis?

[QUOTE=Michelangelo;1576922]Ramadan is coming up in June and will be in Jakarta at that time. Bad timing, but no other choice.

Will Classic and Travel be open at night during Ramadan? And how about MPs like Oasis?[/QUOTE]When in June will you be here? As written several times in the past few weeks, Ramadan begins on June 28th, and the MPs (Kartika, Maribaya, Berlian, etc.) and similar places will be shut down by June 25th, maybe one or two days earlier, with the ladies heading back to their home villages until early August.

Hotel spas such as Alexis and Malioboro should be open during the first three weeks of Ramadan, but will keep a lower profile. Not sure about Classic or Travel. Nightclubs will also keep a lower profile, with less girls working and available.

I look forward to reading your trip reports.

[QUOTE=Michelangelo;1576922]Ramadan is coming up in June and will be in Jakarta at that time. Bad timing, but no other choice.

Will Classic and Travel be open at night during Ramadan? And how about MPs like Oasis?[/QUOTE]To Michelangelo.

I think you should avoid the last week of June beginning of Ramadan Classic and Hotel Travel only closed for a few days last yr Ramadan with less girl after reopening, I been Jarkata on business during Ramadan before and have no problem getting actions there are smaller mp and sauna still be open.

Fast eddie 48.

Dear Fellow Posters.

1. I have RTFF many, many times in preparation for my stay in Jakarta.

2. I will be in Jakarta from 11 PM Wednesday June 11 for 4 - 5 days until I pass tests and relocate to Cilacap as a Flight Instructor.

3. I am 59 years old & 185 cm tall & 130 kg large.

4. I have been to SEA about a dozen times from 2003 to 2011 - mostly Philippines, but also Thailand twice.

5. I am working for a flight school headquartered in Jakarta, but will be teaching in Cilacap for 12 months.

I am not sure how much time, or freedom, to monger I will have at night. I do not even know where I am staying yet as the CEO will pick me up at the airport.

I need advice on my best & most productive options if I am in fact on a short leash. My favorite type of place for those familiar with Manila is the old LA CAFE or MBC as it is now called. I prefer the pickup bar atmosphere as opposed to the girly bars -- but either will be fine by me.

From reading, it seems like Top Gun and others in Blok M are a good choice for the first time traveler.

I am also interested in Hotel Classic & Hotel Travel as well as BATS.

How late are these places open?

Are these my best options if I can travel?

If I am stuck in a hotel what would you suggest.

Just trying to be prepared.

Thanks, Bob.

Jakarta is a chaotic city with a myriad of options for P4 P.

There is no best place to go but rather, it will depend on what you are looking for.

If you need to release, simply head to places like Maliboro, Alexis etc. These are your bath houses which you can find in places like Prague, Warsaw.

Alexis is not cheap, but nice ambience and good range of girls.

Those who prefer to get a drink, scan and hunt should go to Red Square or CJ. To me, better quality of girls.

Blok M has bad quality, your village girls and for those who just want a cheap fuck and don't mind on quality. You can head there. This place is usually for foreigners.

For those with the dough, there are also models and actress for hire but the damage is about 10 m rupiah for an overnight.

[QUOTE=AlexFergus;1577914]
For those with the dough, there are also models and actress for hire but the damage is about 10 m rupiah for an overnight.[/QUOTE]10 M for overnight? That's nearer the lower end of the scale (starts from about 4/5 M), although I would have already said it's a waste of money. I've also heard of someone paying USD2000 for a couple of hours (you know who you are bro;)); it really depends on the status of the actress or model (not to mention the looks).

MD II.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1578461]10 M for overnight? That's nearer the lower end of the scale (starts from about 4/5 M), although I would have already said it's a waste of money. I've also heard of someone paying USD2000 for a couple of hours (you know who you are bro;)); it really depends on the status of the actress or model (not to mention the looks).

MD II.[/QUOTE]You are right, 10 m is lower end, the mean rate would be about 15 m rupiah /12 hours. But then again, these rates are usually inflated as some model / actress have been paid huge bucks.

By the many rich / corrupted businessman that you can find in jakarta. 15-20 m is really small change to these people.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1578461] I've also heard of someone paying USD2000 for a couple of hours (you know who you are bro;))[/QUOTE]I'd do that for Jupe.

Some of the hot FHM models were asking 10 million. I hadn't heard as much as 20 million. That must be a huge star.

[QUOTE=Towelboy2010;1577850]Dear Fellow Posters.

1. I have RTFF many, many times in preparation for my stay in Jakarta.

2. I will be in Jakarta from 11 PM Wednesday June 11 for 4 - 5 days until I pass tests and relocate to Cilacap as a Flight Instructor.

3. I am 59 years old & 185 cm tall & 130 kg large.

4. I have been to SEA about a dozen times from 2003 to 2011 - mostly Philippines, but also Thailand twice.

5. I am working for a flight school headquartered in Jakarta, but will be teaching in Cilacap for 12 months.

I am not sure how much time, or freedom, to monger I will have at night. I do not even know where I am staying yet as the CEO will pick me up at the airport.

I need advice on my best & most productive options if I am in fact on a short leash. My favorite type of place for those familiar with Manila is the old LA CAFE or MBC as it is now called. I prefer the pickup bar atmosphere as opposed to the girly bars -- but either will be fine by me.

From reading, it seems like Top Gun and others in Blok M are a good choice for the first time traveler.

I am also interested in Hotel Classic & Hotel Travel as well as BATS.

How late are these places open?

Are these my best options if I can travel?

If I am stuck in a hotel what would you suggest.

Just trying to be prepared.

Thanks, Bob.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Indonesia!

Esteemed Senior Member Bulai69 used to joke that, when in Jakarta, he would only sleep with women have his age and half his weight.

In your case, it'll be even more fun. You may legally get to sleep with women 1/3rd your age and 1/3rd your weight! (don't be offended, I'm older than you and weigh almost as much as you).

The Blok M places should be open until at least 1 am, same with BATS and CJ's, except during Ramadan (starts last week of June).

In addition to Hotel Classic and Travel, I'd also recommend Hotel Malioboro (mid-priced) and Hotel Alexis (higher-priced) as hotel spas.

If you have time, try the body-to-body massage at Kartika Spa, except they usually don't accept customers after 9 pm (since the massage lasts an hour and they close by 10:30 pm). Kartika is located in the first alley south of the intersection of Jalan Hayam Wuruk and Jalan Mangga Besar (see attached map).

Since you're on a tight time schedule and on a short leash, if you can afford it, I highly recommend booking a night time tour with Jakarta After Dark (he's a member and an advertiser here, go to the Classified Ads section and go to the oldest / last page, his ad can be found there) www jakartaafterdark dot com.

JAD can make sure you find what you're looking for, plus he can help with advice for late-night visits at your hotel room. IMHO money well spent (many other pooters here have also stated this).

Good luck!

Oops! Just saw a typo in the last sentence below, it's supposed to read "posters" not "pooters".

MS.

[QUOTE=Towelboy2010;1577850]Dear Fellow Posters.

1. I have RTFF many, many times in preparation for my stay in Jakarta.

2. I will be in Jakarta from 11 PM Wednesday June 11 for 4 - 5 days until I pass tests and relocate to Cilacap as a Flight Instructor.

3. I am 59 years old & 185 cm tall & 130 kg large.

4. I have been to SEA about a dozen times from 2003 to 2011 - mostly Philippines, but also Thailand twice.

5. I am working for a flight school headquartered in Jakarta, but will be teaching in Cilacap for 12 months.

I am not sure how much time, or freedom, to monger I will have at night. I do not even know where I am staying yet as the CEO will pick me up at the airport.

I need advice on my best & most productive options if I am in fact on a short leash. My favorite type of place for those familiar with Manila is the old LA CAFE or MBC as it is now called. I prefer the pickup bar atmosphere as opposed to the girly bars -- but either will be fine by me.

From reading, it seems like Top Gun and others in Blok M are a good choice for the first time traveler.

I am also interested in Hotel Classic & Hotel Travel as well as BATS.

How late are these places open?

Are these my best options if I can travel?

If I am stuck in a hotel what would you suggest.

Just trying to be prepared.

Thanks, Bob.[/QUOTE]Well Bob you may as well have printed your surname when you were at it as you have very clearly and specifically identified yourself. Hope your employer is a liberal-minded chap.

Just got back from a week in Jakarta. Background info. I have been a couple of times but never really for long to explore. Just a night out here and there. I'm 28 year old bule, somewhat good looking but shy and like to drink a lot. I travelled with a 29 year old fair skinned Indian friend on this trip for his first time in indo. All of mine this time were free, and about half of his. I'll include some of his experiences and prices that I can remember.

Monday - 2 am flight from Manila. We are both buggered so I organise a girl from whatsapp at Manila airport to check into the hotel for me and wait for me there. I first asked her to meet once I arrive for a drink but she can't travel after 10 pm so told her to check in for me which was absolutely fine by me to skip the drinks. Had a nice sesh and she was off to work in the morning.

Tuesday.

Staying at all seasons thramin, which I can recommend, its around 740 k I think, Accor or Agoda has the lowest rate. Nice new room. And 10 min walk to grand Indonesia and a short cab to call the central clubs. Had a nice breakfast on the roof top while waiting for this mornings date and the indian to wake up.

Morning date came around straight to room and after abit of work got naked, I had been chatting to her for awhile. She wanted to do sightseeing but I needed rest. Got the job done and around 1 pm the indian was awake and girl went home so I could spend time with him.

Went to grand indo with my friend, organised his sim card and met next date, this one was somewhat annoying and speaking in Indonesian to us randomly. Had lunch and was enough walking around so suggested we go back to hotel, she wasn't keen and didn't understand much so went back alone for a rest.

Next date finished work around 5 and came over, I had met her on previous trip. She was on period that time but loved sucking dick and had huge tits, in fact she looked indian. I asked if period is finished this time which it was but she was still claiming she didn't want sex but we can do everything else. Once in room got naked but still wasn't ready for sex, claiming only with bf. She didn't mind a finger or two and really loves to suck, after I came and went to wash she said "no don't wash it I want more" I did put it in I think, maybe a inch or so but then she stopped me.

Indian friend getting impatient drinking alone in his room so I send girl on way, we ate together outside all seasons some nasi goreng and soup on street which was nice and tasty.

Back to hotel with my friend, we decide to go to the Hyatt bar Burgandy to start (8 PM). A girl I'd been whatsapping told me its gentlemen night there where its free drinks till 12 for men and lots of girls, some auntys looking for freshmeat and willing to pay 5 mill for a young bule. Sounded to good to be true, but was a good enough tip to make us start there. Arrived around 830 wondering what the catch would be, how can it be free drinks in jakarta. Free drinks it in fact was, but only gilbly vodka gin and whiskey. Still not bad and had about 10 whiskeys and sodas before it was 10 pm when it finished. (she said 12, but actually its changed to 10 pm now) various customers came and go, but not really any girls, more businessmen staying upstairs it appeared. No sign of aunties, although we left at 10 pm.

Next stop was Le Meridian, I had read here someone said it was ladies night on Tuesday there with heaps of girls getting free drinks. Perhaps I got my bars confused because at tigah pulah or whatever its called had not much at all going on and a live band which I'm not into. We didn't have a drink and thought its going to be a quite night so took him to bats. Was probably 11 pm when we arrived, I think was 150 k entrance with a basic drink. Was half full with a decent amount of girls and alot of blokes. We didn't approach or get approached at this time, neither of us in the mood, wanted a big one of bar hopping around. After one drink we went back to room to drink more. Probably around 1 am we left the room for X2, free entrance but drinks are around 150 k. Had a couple of cocktails there but nothing much happening so I've resigned to the fact its only going to be block M from here. Got there probably around 2 or 3, saw Di place which I'd never been so went in there for a look, he wasn't keen being a newbie so we left and went to top gun. Few long islands here and we both getting into it. Before long its 5 am and we call it a night as to drunk and tired. We did try to go to milles but the taxi didn't know. For the guy asking about La Cafe, Top Gun is similar.

Wednesday. Pretty hungover but manage to get a girl to come over around midday, she was cool, studied in Europe, nice boobs and a bit of fun. Had some action in room then went to Japanese and vomitted up everything. By now Indian is awake so I send her on way and meet him. Inform him we have a date with a few girls at Face bar so head there. Its a nice trendy bar, with good Indian and thai food. Wednesday is happy hour till 10 or so with half price cocktails so we all nailed about 8 of them. There were 3 girls, myself and my friend and a english chap with the third girl. The girls were well travelled and open, we all started sharing stories about Thailand etc. Everyone was paying there own way, and the girls asking where we want to go next. Was trying to figured out if mine was DTF so sent her a message asking if we going to have breakfast together and when she opened the txt in the car turned around and gave me a kiss (she was on my lap, other girl driving and 3 in the back) Knew it was on but started to feel around in the car to make sure. Arrived at beer garden and had a few more then everyone went there own ways. My girl was keen but my friends wasn't so we dropped him off at x2 and then went home.

My friend said X2 was pretty quiet but he managed to pick up a freebie who was standing at the bar appearing to be thinking the same thing, I saw her in morning, she was decent and he was very happy to let loose the juice after a couple of days without.

Thursday, girl off to work after roof top breaky at all season, then text yesterdays one to come over again. I had to check out as we left it to late to extend since we were planning to look for somewhere cheaper but it was now full. We had together down the road my rerun and his x2 girl and check in at Smart hotel. Avoid this hotel, its a smelly dump, had to upgrade the room as standard was smelly and small. Indian went back to bed with his x2 and I went to cinema with the European study girl. Got a HJ towards end of movie as we both got bored with Xman (although it was alright anyway HJ sounded better). After that was fine to change room to the bigger one. She went home in evening, and my friend and I started drinking. Think we just went to x2 again, was half decent this night dancing and kissing girls, in fact a re run from last trip came. Really nice girl but got to drunk and apparently I was dancing with others when she came back from the toilet, felt bad for her was a shame to loose her but I guess good for her to know not to waste time with asshole like me. Me and my friend both came home with nothing that night.

Friday. Been chatting to a 41 yo who was on and off being keen to meet or not, now she was but on period but was horny and wanted to suck she said. She came over about 12 she was late and I had to check out of the crappy hotel by 1. Gave a quick BJ then I put her into doggie and fucked her ass since on period. She seemed to like it. Check out shortly after and she's on her way. We change hotels to Clay hotel, accross the road, still just 10 mins from GI. This hotel is ok for the price, around 400 k. New clean room but AC seemed to be not strong enough for both my and my friends room. Other than this, a good choice. Almost half the price of all season. Rerun movie HJ came over and was asking to stay the night after x2, of course I wanted to hunt but told her we can try find another girl for 3 sum maybe. She somewhat agreed and then time for her to go home. Went for a date around 8 pm met and Grand indo and went to skye56 together. This is a cool rooftop bar just next door to Gi. I had been told its a happening place by a girl from last trip, however it seemed more like a rich hang out with your friends place rather than a meet new people place. 600 k for a drink and a water each, with a starter. Took her back to room for a few pre drinks, turned out she was a virgin and not ready to loose it. Did nice massage and BJ for me though. Invite indian friend over for pre drinks with the girl got tipsy together then time to go so she dropped us at x2 then went home from there. Wasn't drunk so a bottle seemed decent value for Friday night. 1.3 mill, black label but no saving or no mixer was the deal. Had a good night drinking that, going for random dance and running into rerun who I had suggested a 3 sum to. She seemed keen, well keen enough not to let me go without her. Found a girl who I'd been chatting to there, and she asked if she can stay with me tonight so I agreed thinking 3 sum is now solved and continued to drink. Told the first girl and realised they were actually friends so the deal was off sadly. Went home with just the first on unfortunately. My mate had picked up a hot one so night was done and went home. 15 mins later get a knock at door from my friend saying the girl run away saying she got to see her friend just as he finished his viagra and taking a shower. Was a mystery and felt sorry for him the girl was good and now its 6 am and hes loaded with viagra with nowhere to go. Tried to get me out but was buggered so sent him to Milles. He told me it was dodgy, so dark he couldn't even see the girls. But he did find two, and asked how much they wanted 1 mil, but he offered back with 500. Then went outside and saw how ugly she was so was happy they hadn't agreed to the 500 k.

Saturday: rerun went home about lunchtime as I had to meet new date at GI, met her at korean, she offered to pay but I just told her get it next time. After abit of walking around and convincing I was to sick to walk around we headed back to room for a rest. Took abit of work but got the job done in the end. Txting my friend he had organised a girl to come over too, but she was ugly not at all like the photo so he was at dinner in the hotel with her wondering what to do. Was curious so took my girl down to see her, yep she was bad, like a tard. He took her up to room and was so not into it just grabbed her hand on put on his dick just to get a BJ. Girl was claiming she is a model and singer but clearly isn't. Was coming to pre drink o clock so walked girl out and she wanted me to walk her all the way back to GI where she parked. Ended up alright since we had thai there and she paid, since it was her turn she claimed even tho I tried to. Then I raced back to room keen for a drink, indian had kicked his out and we had a few laughs about that while pre drinking. After that we wanted to check out somewhere new, I had dragonfly in mind as I'd been there the last trip. This time was crap even on a sat, we got free entry but I think becoz they thought we were with the people in front. Was more of a bar set up tonight, couldn't see the dance floor that I remember from last trip. Neither of us were into it so we left for Empirica that is huge barn, was packed with rich Chinese and others. To packed could hardly move. I think it was 150 k for entrance with a drink. Finished that and went to red square. Red square was also 150 k with a drink I think, bit of a crowd but its a small place and didn't seem to be that convincing so back to X2 it was. X2 was the usual plenty of people dancing and having a good time. Got a few numbers and chats before I knew it was 5 am and they were closing. My mate had lined up a girl and told me she was ready for 500 k. We left with her and her two friends in there car for milles. She had a car so obviously had money, found it wierd that she was willing to drive us all the way to the north just for 500 k, may as well just be free or charge a higher amount. Stopped for roadside nasi goreng before heading into millies. Was 100 k including a bottle of water, we had to pay for the girls of course, maybe they wanted to go there anyway hence the low 500 k. Was dark and dodgy like my mate said, similar to something like spicy or maybe a nice version of swing in Bangkok. Had a millies special for 450 k that the girl organised and probably keep a cut. Did the job tho and the place got alot brigher after that. My mates girl disappeared must have lost interest as he run into another girl he knew from the net, I tried for her friend but she wasnt keen. Headed back alone at 9 am.

Sunday: wasn't feeling to good so told virgin to come over again, got a little bit closer this time. Maybe one inch in for a few seconds but was hurting to much for her so stopped. Was still recovering from last night just relax in room for the day. Virgin went home then meet dinner date at 7 pm (she was from X2 a few nights before who I got number but didn't end up with) She wasn't as good as when in dark at X2 but will do for the night as I was buggered. Had a early flight the next day. My mate went out alone and picked one up at CJs for 500 k.

Jakarta is fun, I'll be back again, it was nice to find it so easy to meet smart educated girls who like to have fun. The good ones in Thailand all know what we are after so its harder and Philippines they are to simple and stupid. So Jakarta is a good one to add to the rotation for fun clubs and dates.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1579515]Well Bob you may as well have printed your surname when you were at it as you have very clearly and specifically identified yourself. Hope your employer is a liberal-minded chap.[/QUOTE]Well if the employer is reading this forum I'm willing to wager that he's not completely closed minded!

Enjoy your stay in Jakarta!

[QUOTE=AnywhereInAsia;1579641]
Next stop was Le Meridian, I had read here someone said it was ladies night on Tuesday there with heaps of girls getting free drinks. Perhaps I got my bars confused because at tigah pulah or whatever its called had not much at all going on and a live band which I'm not into. We didn't have a drink and thought its going to be a quite night so took him to bats. Was probably 11 pm when we arrived, I think was 150 k entrance with a basic drink. Was half full with a decent amount of girls and alot of blokes. We didn't approach or get approached at this time, neither of us in the mood, wanted a big one of bar hopping around. After one drink we went back to room to drink more. [/QUOTE]You're right, you were confused; it was Mandarin Oriental not Le Meridien.

MD II.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1575573]That was for BATS, not blok M girls. Blok M girls are about 1/2 the price of BATS girls or less. The last few times I went to Blok M, I didn't find one girl even worth taking home though.[/QUOTE]Good point while I was there only about half the time I went to Blok M I found a suitable prospect. And now more so than before many of the girls only quote short time, quite a change from the past.

But on a good night there are some gems in Blok M not everyday but some nights.

[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1574175]I've been to Jakarta before but couldn't get into any fun. My questions for those in the know is do the places like Malioboro and Alexis accept VISA / MasterCard?

I'm imagining that these places are something like Macau saunas. Am I off in my estimation?[/QUOTE]My VISA card was rejected at Malio (worked everywhere else in Indonesia). I had just visited the ATM before coming in and I had about 2 M in cash. I left that day with just enough money in my pocket to pay taxi fare, and, memories of a pretty and very GF Chinese doll. Report somewhere in Oct 2013 on this thread.

[QUOTE=AlexFergus;1577914]For those with the dough, there are also models and actress for hire but the damage is about 10 m rupiah for an overnight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1578461]10 M for overnight? That's nearer the lower end of the scale (starts from about 4/5 M), although I would have already said it's a waste of money. I've also heard of someone paying USD2000 for a couple of hours (you know who you are bro;)); it really depends on the status of the actress or model (not to mention the looks).MD II.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1578627]Some of the hot FHM models were asking 10 million. I hadn't heard as much as 20 million. That must be a huge star.[/QUOTE]Ok, I will ask the 10 million to 20 million question: where do you find these girls? I probably wouldn't go this route because I am pretty happy with the quality at Alexis and Malioboro, but never say never if the girl is hot enough. I have always wanted to fuck a star.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1581745]Ok, I will ask the 10 million to 20 million question: where do you find these girls? I probably wouldn't go this route because I am pretty happy with the quality at Alexis and Malioboro, but never say never if the girl is hot enough. I have always wanted to fuck a star.[/QUOTE]I knew from three sources: a sinetron actress who was nearing her sell by date and is past it by now (that was a few years ago but I can try and get in touch. She's doing something to do with art right now); a model / actress who was in the upper end of the FHM hottest women list about six years ago, and she's still quite prominent (I lost touch unfortunately but saw her newer photos); a friend of mine had a very prominent actress / model arranged for him four or five years ago (I'll check if he's still in touch with the person who arranged it). Frankly, it doesn't matter how hot the woman is, I'm not paying those prices. There are so many alternatives out there, and trust me, those alternatives might be a lot more fun in your hotel room.

I met the sinetron actress on a dating site funnily enough (although her identity was somewhat hidden there), the model / actress in KLCC in Kuala Lumpur (someone introduced us in Starbucks of all places). God knows I would never have picked such a place to meet, as there were plenty of eyes looking (she really was stunning) and that's such a likely location to bump into someone who knows you. Then, if they like you, they have no concept of when they shouldn't call you - so you'll need a second phone. It didn't help when I received her call while in the car with the Home Minister. That caused me no end of problems for some time. Lesson: keep your phone speaker volume down at all times and only turn it up when you have to.

MD II.

Good advice MD.

You can also assign a silent ring to certain numbers in your address book. That has proved itself useful in the past.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1581948]I knew from three sources: a sinetron actress who was nearing her sell by date and is past it by now (that was a few years ago but I can try and get in touch. She's doing something to do with art right now); a model / actress who was in the upper end of the FHM hottest women list about six years ago, and she's still quite prominent (I lost touch unfortunately but saw her newer photos); a friend of mine had a very prominent actress / model arranged for him four or five years ago (I'll check if he's still in touch with the person who arranged it). Frankly, it doesn't matter how hot the woman is, I'm not paying those prices. There are so many alternatives out there, and trust me, those alternatives might be a lot more fun in your hotel room.

I met the sinetron actress on a dating site funnily enough (although her identity was somewhat hidden there), the model / actress in KLCC in Kuala Lumpur (someone introduced us in Starbucks of all places). God knows I would never have picked such a place to meet, as there were plenty of eyes looking (she really was stunning) and that's such a likely location to bump into someone who knows you. Then, if they like you, they have no concept of when they shouldn't call you - so you'll need a second phone. It didn't help when I received her call while in the car with the Home Minister. That caused me no end of problems for some time. Lesson: keep your phone speaker volume down at all times and only turn it up when you have to.

MD II.[/QUOTE]

Isn't there a whole thread of English comedy based on the concept of ". . . As the actress said to the bishop"? On the basis that back in the day actresses were regarded as pretty much synonymous with dolly bird. In the US "starlet" was a common euphemism used by newspapers back in the 1920's and 30's to describe the lady some gentleman was caught in a compromising situation with who didn't happen to be his wife. Even today such girls are referred to as AMWs; actress, model, whatever.

So it is here, sinetron actresses and "celebritis" are to the super-rich of Jakarta what Blok M girls are to overweight 50-year-old Aussie oil workers. Look at the corruption scandals reported in the newspapers and how so many well-known actresses have been found to be living in rather nice homes in Pondok Indah and driving top of the range cars, which would not be entirely commensurate with the earnings from acting in some mid-evening melodrama on RCTI or MC-ing fashion shows, but who continually receive expensive gifts from rich blokes who do business by means of large brown envelopes. One particular geezer, aside from running a major construction business in Banten just happened to find the time to manage a flock of these ladies through his "casting agency".

My kids' school is the favorite choice for the offspring of such ladies after they have finally ensnared the older businessman willing to settle down with them. I always enjoy the parents' days watching the yummy mummies descending from the lines of Toyota Alphards like the 82nd Airborne over Normandy, all designer dresses, pashminas, Jimmy Choo shoes and Gucci sunglasses perched on their perfectly plucked foreheads air-kissing each other as they go to watch their little darlings perform in the school plays.

But they're the ones who made good, I dare say you could get a fair few of their contemporaries still knocking around for quite a bit less than 10 million rupes for two hours.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1582307]My kids' school is the favorite choice for the offspring of such ladies after they have finally ensnared the older businessman willing to settle down with them. I always enjoy the parents' days watching the yummy mummies descending from the lines of Toyota Alphards like the 82nd Airborne over Normandy, all designer dresses, pashminas, Jimmy Choo shoes and Gucci sunglasses perched on their perfectly plucked foreheads air-kissing each other as they go to watch their little darlings perform in the school plays.

[/QUOTE]I rememember watching the self same peacock show in the schools around Asia that my kids went to also.

The best view of course was watching some of the older guys put on their best smiles and do the charming act in front of them.

And the regular pasty white wives all gossiping along the lines of " you know she used to work in a bar, she sold her body, she has a toyboy, she likes very big men, older men etc. Saying anything to put her down. When in fact the Alphard girl looked 100 times hotter than the dowdy white women who were doing the bitching.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1582359]
The best view of course was watching some of the older guys put on their best smiles and do the charming act in front of them.

[/QUOTE]As friends have often pointed out I have a dreadful case of the stare of death, giving myself away when some hot woman is in the room.

After the school shows I mentioned below on the way home my wife, an inveterate "infotainment" addict, will often say "She's called Maya Fifi (made-up name just for the record), she was in that sinetron about the poor kampung girl who goes up to Jakarta and falls in love with the handsome rich young businessman but who is plotted against at every turn and thwarted by his snobby mother and the rich young bi -tch who also wants the young man (ie the plot of every damn sinetron ever shown on Indonesian TV), anyway after she left that show she married the owner of PT Jaya Negara (again made up) they have two kids but they divorced and now she's seeing a footballer from Paraguay".

"Who the hell are you talking about?" I will ask.

The woman two rows in front of you who you kept leering at through most of the performance.

"Oh, was it that obvious?"

"And the mother of little Kiki, who you got all red-faced and flustered about when I introduced you to her, and you kept staring at her boobs thinking nobody would notice, is Tina Usi who used to be a singer on that late-night dangdut show you pretend to hate, but secretly watch over the top of your book when the dancers come on, she's married to a German guy . . . ".

And so it goes on throughout the journey home, but at least my wife's not a pasty-faced bule woman with a weight problem and a chippy attitude to sexy young Indonesian women, that I think would be the definition of hell on earth.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1581625]Good point while I was there only about half the time I went to Blok M I found a suitable prospect. And now more so than before many of the girls only quote short time, quite a change from the past.

But on a good night there are some gems in Blok M not everyday but some nights.[/QUOTE]Agree. I was in Top Gun last Wednesday and there was quite a collection of girls there that were "easy on the eye", including a hot little spinner in a black and white supermini dress. She wore glasses, which oddly made me think of the actress Eva Angelina who is much more curvy. The little lass wass dancing around everywhere, from dance floor to the mini stage and was flirting with everyone. I was not fast enough and she was snatched away by another guy, so I "settled" for another girl in a cllinging pink mini.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1582950]Agree. I was in Top Gun last Wednesday and there was quite a collection of girls there that were "easy on the eye", including a hot little spinner in a black and white supermini dress. She wore glasses, which oddly made me think of the actress Eva Angelina who is much more curvy. The little lass wass dancing around everywhere, from dance floor to the mini stage and was flirting with everyone. I was not fast enough and she was snatched away by another guy, so I "settled" for another girl in a cllinging pink mini.

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]You got extremely lucky not choosing the crazy dancer! She has been there every time I've visited the place! She dances crazily hour after hour. Who knows where she gets this energy? Hmmmm. I'm amazed that you saw her as being hot! She truly is dire IMO. But that possibly reflects the quality at Blok M, it's the very lower end of the market!

Been in Jakarta for a few nights now.

First night went to Blok M. Topgun. Was a Tuesday night and was only 9 pm. Very limited selection of girls, the two I spoke to didn't speak English and I left after a beer and a massage from the mamasam, LOL. I tipped her 20 K I think, LOL.

Got a Bluebird cab to BATS, and arrived at 10 pm. Again, early, not too many women, but it is a classy place, I was rightfully optimistic. Cover charge I think was 150 K and that included a drink. This bar is in the Shangri-La hotel. Very swanky! Drinks were very expensive, I think in the 100 K range, I had a tab opened and wasn't too worried about prices.

BATS had a fun, English live band and by 12 am the place was jumping. A lot of beautiful Indonesian women, all ages, and the majority very sexy and friendly, also all with friends, only talked with one girl who was solo.

Girls were quoting 1 million rupiah to 2 million for two girls. I tried a couple times to get a couple down to 500 K but no success.

At 12 am I decided to get a cab to CJ's.

BATS was filled with Western businessman, but CJ's was filled with Asians. Again, CJ's was at a very swanky hotel and the cover was 150 K which included a drink.

CJ's is more of an open setting than BATS, but also had a live band (not nearly as good as BATS).

Couple girls tried to get me to approach but I didn't see anything I liked.

Later a very sweet girl approaches me, asks my name and starts dancing with me.

I buy her a glass of red wine and she is pleased with my hard dick and continues to grind on it.

After about 30 minutes of dancing with her I talk price and she wants 2 million Rupiah, I counter with 1 million, and we settle on 1.5 million.

We take a Mercedes Benz taxi home and once in room we shower and have nice passionate sex. We fall asleep, wake up at 9 am and have sex again.

She wants to go home so I give her the money and we are both happy.

Fun night.

What a great "hotel".

The walls were lined with beautiful Indo women.

I enter and get greeted by the mama, she brings a girl, but the girl doesn't want to give massage and is a little cold- so I ask for another.

Mama brings another with nice big tits and plump ass. She had the body of a Colombian but the face of an Indo woman, with full lips.

Mama is not pushy at all and I order drinks for the girl and myself.

She agrees to massage and we go up to the room. Very nice, clean room, with a shower that could fit an adult cow, and nice clean bouncy bed.

We both get naked and she scrubs me down making sure junior is clean.

We get on bed naked and she starts the massage, which is mainly focussed on legs, although only 15-20 minutes it was quite nice with ample pressure.

I don't really know what to expect to I start sucking her tits and playing with her pussy. She slides a condom and and proceeds to give me a CBJ. For some reason I can't get hard so she voluntary gives me a BBBBJ- just what the doctor ordered!

We begin in miss and she gets a good pounding and seems to enjoy it.

She had a great attitude and was pleasant to be around, I really appreciated her full curves and wet pussy.

Best part about this place is the price- extremely affordable and the quality is very good.

All in all the FS massage was 350 K, I tipped the broad 100 K, and two drinks were 100 K.

That's a damn bargain if you ask me.

Only in Jakarta.

Going to hit the dance clubs tonight, report to follow.

[QUOTE=NavidNavid;1583330]Been in Jakarta for a few nights now.

BATS had a fun, English live band and by 12 am the place was jumping. A lot of beautiful Indonesian women, all ages, and the majority very sexy and friendly, also all with friends, only talked with one girl who was solo.

Girls were quoting 1 million rupiah to 2 million for two girls. I tried a couple times to get a couple down to 500 K but no success...

At 12 am I decided to get a cab to CJ's...

Later a very sweet girl approaches me, asks my name and starts dancing with me.

I buy her a glass of red wine and she is pleased with my hard dick and continues to grind on it.

After about 30 minutes of dancing with her I talk price and she wants 2 million Rupiah, I counter with 1 million, and we settle on 1.5 million.

We take a Mercedes Benz taxi home and once in room we shower and have nice passionate sex. We fall asleep, wake up at 9 am and have sex again.

She wants to go home so I give her the money and we are both happy.

Fun night.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting study on the effects of alcohol, and marketing on you. Earlier they ask for 1 M and you try to get down to 500 k but couldn't so you turn them down. Later after the drinks, the grind and some flirting, she quotes 2 M; you try to get her down to 1 M and settle for 1. 5 M. The girl in CJs "marketed" herself much better to you or the inverse effect of late night and no company locked in. For the girls, the price goes down; I guess for some punters, the price goes up.:p

MD II.

Thanks for the reports, great to see your having fun. Looking forward to reading your nightclub reviews, you can have a great time in Jakarta nightclubs that's for sure.

I was amused to read that your analogy about the fitting an adult cow in the shower. The image of an adult cow, taking a shower cracks me up.

[QUOTE=NavidNavid;1583339]What a great "hotel".
Very nice, clean room, with a shower that could fit an adult cow,[/QUOTE]

In the past (meaning a year or so ago and longer) I understood the acceptable tip in places like PenJay (e.G, LA Bar, Sari Ayu) or Travel and Classic as well as the places in the immediate Stadium area was 50 K, although I would leave a bit more for good service. Very recently, every time I have left 100 K the girl has asked for more although in most cases didn't seem particularly unhappy when I said 100 K was enough. The one exception was in Marioboro when one of the Indonesian girls (who go for 800 K, no longer is there an option for Indonesian girls that cost around 350 K there) where the girl got downright pissed off with a 100 K tip.

So my question is have things really changed significantly regarding tipping in Jakarta? Or have I simply been on a bad streak in this regard (or alternatively are the girls now differentiating their tip requirements depending on whether one is a foreigner or not)? To the extent anyone has current information from experience, please share it including what the expected tips are at the various tier venues.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Why would some punters pay 1.5 millions roupiah after negotiation (which by the way is ridculous for a third word country) for basically 1 shot (2 if you are lucky) with a older girl at Blok M when you can have 1 shot at 350 k roupiahs with a girl at Hotel Travel?

Is there any logical explanation here?

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1583644]In the past (meaning a year or so ago and longer) I understood the acceptable tip in places like PenJay (e.G, LA Bar, Sari Ayu) or Travel and Classic as well as the places in the immediate Stadium area was 50 K, although I would leave a bit more for good service. Very recently, every time I have left 100 K the girl has asked for more although in most cases didn't seem particularly unhappy when I said 100 K was enough. The one exception was in Marioboro when one of the Indonesian girls (who go for 800 K, no longer is there an option for Indonesian girls that cost around 350 K there) where the girl got downright pissed off with a 100 K tip.

So my question is have things really changed significantly regarding tipping in Jakarta? Or have I simply been on a bad streak in this regard (or alternatively are the girls now differentiating their tip requirements depending on whether one is a foreigner or not)? To the extent anyone has current information from experience, please share it including what the expected tips are at the various tier venues.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.[/QUOTE]Over the years I've noticed that closer to Ramadan (when most of these places including PenJay are shut) they tend to aim for a bigger tip, but 100 k has always been the "acceptable" rate even amongst the local mongers. I leave 150 k or even 200 k but they must let me go bareback for BBBJ and FS or else they get nothing at all. I make it clear from the start and so far never been turned down and they are very happy.

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1583703]Why would some punters pay 1.5 millions roupiah after negotiation (which by the way is ridculous for a third word country) for basically 1 shot (2 if you are lucky) with a older girl at Blok M when you can have 1 shot at 350 k roupiahs with a girl at Hotel Travel?

Is there any logical explanation here?[/QUOTE]I guess they like taking them to their own place to feel as though it's a date. Taking a girl out from places like Travel for 12 hours or so will cost almost the same anyway.

Anyway, if I'm at Top Gun, I never pay above 700 k short time and 1 juta long time. They might resist at first but approach them again closer to closing time and it's almost guaranteed they'll agree with a much lower rate.

1.5 juta is for CJ and BATS type of places. If you're a good enough bargainer you may be able to get them long time for that price too.

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1583703]Why would some punters pay 1.5 millions roupiah after negotiation (which by the way is ridculous for a third word country) for basically 1 shot (2 if you are lucky) with a older girl at Blok M when you can have 1 shot at 350 k roupiahs with a girl at Hotel Travel?

Is there any logical explanation here?[/QUOTE]The girl at hotel travel screws 5 to 9 guys a day and her service normally is star fish poor quality, the free lance chicks at blok m normally screw 1 or 2 a day. You can get a "decent" girl in blok m for 500 k and she will likely be more fun to hang out with and provide better service.

Apologies for any typos. I'm writing this on a crappy tablet.

My last weekend in Jakarta after living here for four years. The intention is to go through about 4 juta per day for food and fun.

Only fitting that I start out the weekend on Friday back at the place my Jakarta mongering career started. Hotel Classic. This place is obviously hit or miss, with the ratio leaning somewhat toward the 'miss' side of things. After a couple of boring experiences with the threesomes there, I was in the mood to just take my time, go slow, and pick one girl that would fit all my criteria.

It was not meant to be.

I saw Rindy about 12 seconds after entering and junior had his mind made up. (If you enter Terminal 2 and immediately turn right, she was about two thirds down the way on the right). Called her over and had a quick chat. She's about 152 cm, 37 kg, 19 years old, with a lovely smile. We chat for a wee bit and I ask her if she's okay with 2 shots in our allotted hour. "Kamu bisa tiga?" she inquired ("Can you do three? Keeper!

Down to the room and she strips down to reveal a lovely little body with very few imperfections (she has that sort of weird discoloration on her ass that I've noticed from time to time in Asia. Not horrible, just mars the perfection of the rest.). She lathers me up in the shower and we head to the bed. She wanted to do CBJ, but I just said "No", and she didn't put up a fuss. It was good technique, but she did the frequent tissue wipe that seems to be the norm in Classic.

On to penetration and it is glorious. As I mentioned from my description of her, she's a tiny girl (during the BJ, we determined that my dick was almost twice the circumference of her wrist). Her love tunnel was in proportion to the rest of her, so it was a tight squeeze, but ahe took it like a champ (with a lot of lube). In fact, even with my stated desire for two shots (and her dare for three), I found myself holding back for a good 30 minutes because it just felt too good. Cowgirl, me holding her up against the wall, missionary, doggy, and finally blasting a load all over her chest (which I'm afraid she wasn't too pleased about). We just had time to get cleaned up and dressed when the phone rang signalling time to move on.

I gave her a 100 k tip and she seemed happily surprised.

Girl: 350 + 100

Drinks: 150

Would I repeat? Without a doubt, probably tonight or tomorrow! Great little spinner with skills and a total GFE.

After Classic, I hit Crowne and Mille's (which is where all my money went! But the activities in which I partook there aren't really relevant here.

Going to be sad to leave this town!

Any pics of this gem Biffduff?

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1584345]Any pics of this gem Biffduff?[/QUOTE]Fraid not, PB. Never really gotten comfortable with asking the gals if they're cool with that. I should probably get that sorted soon. She was wearing those freaky anime contacts and had sort of auburn hair down to her mid-back. However, those details probably don't illuminate too much.

If I get back there tonight, I'll try for pics and a phone number.

[QUOTE=Biffduff;1584145]After a couple of boring experiences with the threesomes there[/QUOTE]I have stopped going for threesomes there. I've never had a good one there. It's so tempting because it's cheap, but it seems at that place the girls act differently when they are in pairs. You are better off going with just one. Even with just one, it's hard to find one who provides good service at Classic (in my opinion). Mostly starfish.

You say that one was a gem? Any photos?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1584547]I have stopped going for threesomes there. I've never had a good one there. It's so tempting because it's cheap, but it seems at that place the girls act differently when they are in pairs. You are better off going with just one. Even with just one, it's hard to find one who provides good service at Classic (in my opinion). Mostly starfish.

You say that one was a gem? Any photos?[/QUOTE]Absolutely agreed on all counts, Smoothy. The girls seem to get somehow lazier and pushier when in pairs.

Yeah, she was a gem, but I'm not a photo dude. I'll see what I can do for the good of the board, though!

Thanks to this forum and the advice from a few fellow travelers here, my first trip report to Jakarta is a good one.

DAY 1.

I arrived around 11 pm On Wednesday June 11. I got a ride to my hotel which just happened to be close to block M, I'd check in and took a shower to refresh myself before heading over to Top Gun. My first impression was somewhat reminiscent of my experiences at the old la cafe and Manila Bay cafe in the Philippines.

I walked to the bar inside the front door and got a San Miguel lite beer. I remember reading about the bar in the back so I ventured that way. Near the back I ran into an Australian gentleman named Robert. We had a nice chat about the lay of the land. Robert mentioned to me that one of the things he liked about Top Gun versus the Manila Bay cafe as she's read online is that the girls at Top Gun leave you alone. Hahaha. In my walk from the front door to the back I got accosted by at least 6 women. Personally I am not fond of too much attention.

After being hit on by several ladies I took the recommendation of Robert a picked a girl named Ellie. Ellie was quite cute and dressed nicely. We went back to my hotel and had a nice session. Some BBBJ and cow girl. It was okay but there was no chemistry.

As I had not been to South East Asia in several years I tend to over indulge. Ellie went home and I went back to Top Gun. At 3 am, the action movies across the street to my bar. I found Robert at my bar and we had some more chat. There are more than enough lovely ladies at these places to satisfy me. I finally settle on an aggressive somewhat chubby girl who really did not look Asian and her interesting looking friend. This threesome session went pretty well and I was satisfied. Paid them 500 K each and send them on their way. Tired and satisfied I went to bed.

DAY 2

The next evening based on reviews and information here I decided to go and check out BATS. It was Thursday evening and I got a seat at the bar after paying the 120 K cover charge. Not long after I took my seat at the bar a prett girl in a long red dress came over to talk. She was pretty, had decent English skills and had the girl next door look. We had a really nice chat and she convinced me I would have a good time (but who doesn't). Once we were in my room, stripped down naked on the bed, she got in a position for me to perform DATY. Good choice as it made her extremely horny and I got a nice BBBJ, and a missionary finish. Paid the 1 million rupiah and she was on her way home.

BATS and Blok M are totally different. Blok M is down and dirty, and BATS is high class, being a bar inside the upscale Shangri-La Hotel. It's all a matter of what you were looking for. Both ofq1 those were fun for me but both very different. What I dislike most about Blok M is the loud music and the cigarette smoke. I am a non smoker. BATS is elegant but expensive.

After the BATS girl was gone, I headed over to Top Gun. Almost immediately, I met the first girl I met the re on the first night in Top Gun. She was a bit older - 40 - but had a look and air of fun about her, and the only reason I rejected her was her two friends tried to tag along. We chat a bit and I decided to be brutally honest. Up to this point I had some nice sessions but nothing over the top exciting so I told her I do not like condoms and asked if she would guarantee a BBBJTCNQNS. I told her I would pay her $500 k if she did, and nothing if she did not. She agreed, off we went, mission successful.

DAY 3.

On the evening of day 3, I decided to try Ellie again. Pretty much the same result, a nice session, but just no connection. Part of that is because she basically refused to kiss. Because of that, I did a kiss test, in the bar, of all future women. And it seems pretty effective. If they won't kiss in the bar I figured that just going to be starfish.

As usual after day one I went back to Top Gun for date two and found the older woman from the night before. I knew I had a winner here, so I decided to go for it. She talked me into bringing her younger sister along for a threesome. Ther action this second time around was mostly with her sister. While I fucked her sister to an orgasm in missionary, she played with my balls and ass which was kind of nice.

So my first trip report in Jakarta, 3 nights, 3 solo matches & 2 threesomes. A great time was had by me, thank one and all.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1583644]In the past (meaning a year or so ago and longer) I understood the acceptable tip in places like PenJay (e.G, LA Bar, Sari Ayu) or Travel and Classic as well as the places in the immediate Stadium area was 50 K, although I would leave a bit more for good service. Very recently, every time I have left 100 K the girl has asked for more although in most cases didn't seem particularly unhappy when I said 100 K was enough. The one exception was in Marioboro when one of the Indonesian girls (who go for 800 K, no longer is there an option for Indonesian girls that cost around 350 K there) where the girl got downright pissed off with a 100 K tip.

So my question is have things really changed significantly regarding tipping in Jakarta? Or have I simply been on a bad streak in this regard (or alternatively are the girls now differentiating their tip requirements depending on whether one is a foreigner or not)? To the extent anyone has current information from experience, please share it including what the expected tips are at the various tier venues.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.[/QUOTE]While I was there in May 2014, had a similar experience and was also wondering if the tips are not sufficient. Visited a massage place in Kota, near berlin, the cost was 250 k and the.

Girl was nice not beautiful but passable, everything was covered and let me touch her minimally. At the end I gave her 50 k and she was ok with it, didn't say anything but gave me here number to call her for hotel in service.

On my last night decided to try the hustler outside my hotel, said 400 k complete, girl was a bit chubby but pleasant, mama and girl came room and I had to pay upfront, don't really.

Like this but did it anyway. The massage was great but the after service was very routine and mechanical and I could tell she was rushing me. After the session I gave her 100 k and she was disappointed said that I had to give her more, and all of a sudden her English improved drastically. I refused and said that's all I am going to give her. If the after service was a bit more special I may have considered tipping more.

Don't know what's the tipping formula anymore?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1583962]The girl at hotel travel screws 5 to 9 guys a day and her service normally is star fish poor quality, the free lance chicks at blok m normally screw 1 or 2 a day. You can get a "decent" girl in blok m for 500 k and she will likely be more fun to hang out with and provide better service.[/QUOTE]Very true statement, Blok M girls are not are low quality as most think. I do find some very beautiful girls hanging around the bars, but they don't stay for very long. Some of them try.

To push the their luck and ask for 1 M but I don't think it worth paying that much.

I don't negotiate so when I get quoted a high figure I simply don't bother, I do have a few regulars that I hang out with but I do try to find the gems in the bars.

Well, went back last night to see if Rindy was around. No dice. Couldn't even find her whole squadron of girls in that corner, so maybe it was just Sunday bad luck.

Anyway, found another little spinner named Viola, and my opinion of Classic went right back to where it belongs. While she was definitely cute, she was so incredibly annoying and whiny that I just got my shot done as quickly as possible and got the hell out.

After that, headed to Blok M, where I randomly stumbled across a fellow board member. Not sure if he wants to be identified, but it was a pretty good couple of drinks and swapped stories, even though the Blok was completely dead.

Well, my Indonesian adventure certainly didn't end with the 'bang' that I was hoping for. I will definitely return for trips in the future, but this chapter of my saga is now done.

Happy hunting, fellas.

[QUOTE=Biffduff;1585016]Well, went back last night to see if Rindy was around. No dice. Couldn't even find her whole squadron of girls in that corner, so maybe it was just Sunday bad luck.

Anyway, found another little spinner named Viola, and my opinion of Classic went right back to where it belongs. While she was definitely cute, she was so incredibly annoying and whiny that I just got my shot done as quickly as possible and got the hell out.

After that, headed to Blok M, where I randomly stumbled across a fellow board member. Not sure if he wants to be identified, but it was a pretty good couple of drinks and swapped stories, even though the Blok was completely dead.

Well, my Indonesian adventure certainly didn't end with the 'bang' that I was hoping for. I will definitely return for trips in the future, but this chapter of my saga is now done.

Happy hunting, fellas.[/QUOTE]To Biffduff.

I was at Jarkata a few month ago pick a girl with blue eyes with large breast she is muslim half pakistan and indo very GFE think her name is Rindy also, it is Ramadan next week do you know Classic will be closed for one week like last yr.

Fast eddie 48.

After Stadium also Millennium disco is closed since a few weeks. After going to Crown two weeks ago, a Chinese friend brought me to Emporium, jl Pecenongan Raya No. 29 (kota).

It has a club (Tease), private rooms, and a spa. It wasn't too bad, in the club, girls dance and strip until they are naked. I didn't try out the spa.

Emporium is recently renovated and clean, less classy than Crown but definitely much better than Millennium.

Cheers,

MarkIII.

Just been to this place. Pretty hard to find if you don't know where your going. Just ask around.

Club is on the 7th floor. 2 rooms 1 big main room and the other smaller with dancers who come around offering you to buy shots for them in return for a bit of lap dance action.

'Chemical enhancements' and 'girls' are readily available. Drinks are expensive. 126,000 for a Corona beer if I recall correctly. Music pretty good. A bit on the harder / faster side.

Ladies all around. Best know how to speak the local Bahasa. But I managed ok with only speak English. Enjoyable experience!.

I have just spent the past week here.

So here's my mongering report.

Travel and classic hotel. Both similar in setup and both similar in experiences.

It really is a lucky dip in terms of performance. But I have to say that all my experiences were more positive than negative.

All the girls I chose weren't starfish thankfully.

I'm Asian but speak English. No bahasa. Language barrier proved difficult at times but just ask mamasan for English speaking girls.

Price still 350 k at both places for 1 girl session.

Travel was very loud music and mostly was a karaoke singing lady.

Classic was DJ / band which I preferred and also topless dancers.

Travel was a lot darker than classic so chose your girl wisely.

Malioboro. What a place! Have to go see for yourself.

Lots of ladies. Topless dancer's. Great music. Good vibe and good lighting however. Much more expensive than the above places.

Your looking at 800 k minimum for girl service. That's for a local. Foreigners and topless dancers are 1. 2 million +. Lots of variety though.

They have massage / sauna facilities too and also a club with topless dancers and ladies available there for rent too. Mostly local girls. Average quality tbh.

The topless girls will approach you to buy them shots in return for topless lap dance. 50 k per shot. Just make sure you keep tabs on how many you buy them as they can swarm you and it can get a little out of hand. A lotta fun though. And a good way to get to know them if your keen on some action (1.2 million). They're all pretty hot!

I walked into Kartika and Berian massage which are on the same road just down from Manga Besar. I walked back out of both. This was at about 3 pm in the afternoon. Disappointing. Kartika was full of older not so attractive women and Berlian wasn't much better. Quality at Classic and Travel is so much better.

I visited Kimochi Spa which is opposite the Travel hotel. Caters mostly to the locals. The place is old and run down but I had a nice massage from a nice girl. You can see the girl selection on the internet. Just google Kimochi spa.

I can recommend Delta spa Harmoni for the hot stone massage. Felt great afterwards. Expensive though at about 650 k. Just over 2 hours long. Incl. HE.

All these places are in North Jakarta. I stayed at the Grand Mercure Harmoni which is slap bang in the middle of the area. And highly recommend as its a relatively new hotel. 24 hour McDs next door and a shopping mall across the road.

Traffic in Jakarta is a nightmare mostly at peak hour. Taxis are cheap but chances are youll be stuck in traffic jams during the day.

Cheaper and sometimes better options the Transjakarta bus or an OJEK which are the guys on the motorcycles. The bus has a dedicated lane and the OJEKS can weave in and around traffic jams but its not for the faint hearted!!

So yeah. I've enjoyed Jakarta this trip. I didn't venture to the south sorry. So no comment on that. Maybe save till next trip.

Jakarta. A great place to have fun if you know where to look. And for the most part cheap too.

Highly recommend it. I'l be back!

[QUOTE=Willym888;1586876]I have just spent the past week here.

So here's my mongering report.

[/QUOTE]Very useful report.

Thanks and well done.

Styk.

[QUOTE=Willym888;1586876]Your looking at 800 k minimum for girl service. That's for a local. Foreigners and topless dancers are 1. 2 million +. Lots of variety though.[/QUOTE]Has it gone down 800 k already? Wow.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1587159]Has it gone down 800 k already? Wow.[/QUOTE]Hey Egy,

No import talent is still 1.5 mill + if I recall correctly.

1.2 mill for the indo topless dancers.

Cheers

A quick PSA for newcomers. Most places, even those that are open over the Ramadan period, will be closed this weekend (28/29 June), for the first couple days of Ramadan, but will then re-open Monday. Examples include places like Fortune Spa and Hotel. Spas without a hotel will be generally closed for the full month of Ramadan. Malioboro, Alexis both have a hotel.

I am unsure about bars in the block for this weekend, but maybe a senior member could confirm?

I've been to many places all over the US and have always been satisfied with the service I found around but my last 3 days in Jakarta completely ruined that for me.

The first night of the 3 free days I had, I ended up at Alexis. I chose a busty and gorgeous early 20's Viet girl who was fun and playful. I was impressed with how clean and nice the rooms and facilities were. Mutual shower was great with preview BBBJ. Plenty of BLS, DT, and LFK. She was shaved, fresh and tasty for DATY. ACG, CG, Mish, Doggy, back to CG for the pop. I know she was careful to keep virtually all of it in the cover, but after she removed, she went down and licked and sucked him clean. I'll have dreams about watching her lick the trace amounts of cum off of me for awhile. Or forever. The shower end was just as playful and it was honestly tempting to extend to go again but I knew I was going to be in it enough as it was. Total damage 2. 3 m (including 2 drinks and 200 k tip). I know this was expensive for Jakarta but the 1. 5 hr GFE with a bombshell like this would have cost at least double that in the US.

The following afternoon, I headed to Delta at Harmoni for a more relaxing experience. The facilities again were much nicer than I thought and I took my team in the steam and pools. And rinsed off in the shower before making my way upstairs to the lounge. I asked for young and slim with a 2 hour hot stone combo in a Junior room with shower / tub inside. The girl was probably a 7 in the face but very petite and had an innocent sexiness about her. She was probably no more than 20. The massage and hot stone was literally the best massage I've ever had (legit or not.) I couldn't believe how strong her hands were (but still super soft) since she was so tiny. The HJ though had me floating in a different universe. She sat between my legs with my legs up on her thighs and began slowly oiling him up but then she grabbed the hot stones to heat up her hands and started a slow 2 hand back and forth stroke. It literally felt like the tightest, warmest, wettest, and softest kitty ever wrapped around my pole. She laughed as she saw my face and said "you like?" to which I emphatically nodded and then she stopped with a devilish grin. She grabbed the hot stones and started rubbing the boys with one while teasing the other all around my shaft and head. This engorged me to a point I didn't even think was possible and she moved back into the warmed hands technique and finished me off. The HJ was so mind blowing good that even though I had already spent a huge load junior was still at attention. She noticed this as she was soaping me up in the tub and reached around and soaped him up until I popped a second time in the tub before she cleaned me up. I handed her a 100 k tip to which she made a bit of a pouty face. Considering she let me go twice and on quality alone I handed her a second 100 k which drew a big smile and hug. Total damage 560 k + 200 k tip = 760 k. I gather that's a bit expensive from other posts but I honestly would pay double that for the experience.

The last night had me off to check out Travel. I went expecting a seedier / trashier experience but that's what I was looking for after having already experienced the classy end of the spectrum. I asked MMS for 2 young, skinny locals and she delivered. English was not as good as at Alexis but we were able to communicate fine. These girls were not gorgeous like the Viet at Alexis but just what I was looking for. The slutty type that wouldn't care about being dragged into a bathroom stall at a club in front of everyone. One said she was 18, the other said she was 20. The room was nowhere near as nice as Alexis but I wouldn't say it was dirty either, just OK. All 3 showered up and then off to fun on the bed. CBJ's, BLS, no DATY, LK (no LFK), FIV, MPCFS x 2. It was a really enjoyable time overall and a great value. My only complaint would be I was hoping for a little more GFE (although def more STI risk here) and a true MFF experience. It was more of a train than a 3 way. Was hoping for double BJ, and girl on girl action but settled for mutual nipple sucking and FIV with the non-mounted girl. Still very fun. Total damage: 925 k = 525 k for 1.5 hrs with the 2 girls + 200 k for 3 drinks + 200 k tip (100 k each) which they were very appreciative of and I think in hindsight wasn't necessary but oops.

Pretty much this trip has me convinced that I'm going to stop wasting my money domestically and start saving up for more flights out to SE Asia. Probably back to Jakarta with a stop in Thailand within the next few months.

Thanks to everyone that contributed info on this board. Much appreciated.

Looking for something to do seeing as how I leave tomorrow, but I just called Hotel Alexis and even they are closed. Any idea if anything at all is open? Be it standard bar / club or not.

[QUOTE=ItchIsBad;1588217]Looking for something to do seeing as how I leave tomorrow, but I just called Hotel Alexis and even they are closed. Any idea if anything at all is open? Be it standard bar / club or not.[/QUOTE]You couldn't have picked a worse night in the entire year for your last night in town. In all likelihood, nowhere in town will have anything going on. However, you may be able to get your hotel masseuse to stop by your room and give you some special service. I got that at hotel Ambhara one year at this time.

[QUOTE=MpFan123;1587705]I've been to many places all over the US and have always been satisfied with the service I found around but my last 3 days in Jakarta completely ruined that for me.

The first night of the 3 free days I had, I ended up at Alexis. I chose a busty and gorgeous early 20's Viet girl who was fun and playful. I was impressed with how clean and nice the rooms and facilities were. Mutual shower was great with preview BBBJ. Plenty of BLS, DT, and LFK. She was shaved, fresh and tasty for DATY. ACG, CG, Mish, Doggy, back to CG for the pop. I know she was careful to keep virtually all of it in the cover, but after she removed, she went down and licked and sucked him clean. I'll have dreams about watching her lick the trace amounts of cum off of me for awhile. Or forever. The shower end was just as playful and it was honestly tempting to extend to go again but I knew I was going to be in it enough as it was. Total damage 2. 3 m (including 2 drinks and 200 k tip). I know this was expensive for Jakarta but the 1. 5 hr GFE with a bombshell like this would have cost at least double that in the US.

The following afternoon, I headed to Delta at Harmoni for a more relaxing experience. The facilities again were much nicer than I thought and I took my team in the steam and pools. And rinsed off in the shower before making my way upstairs to the lounge. I asked for young and slim with a 2 hour hot stone combo in a Junior room with shower / tub inside. The girl was probably a 7 in the face but very petite and had an innocent sexiness about her. She was probably no more than 20. The massage and hot stone was literally the best massage I've ever had (legit or not.) I couldn't believe how strong her hands were (but still super soft) since she was so tiny. The HJ though had me floating in a different universe. She sat between my legs with my legs up on her thighs and began slowly oiling him up but then she grabbed the hot stones to heat up her hands and started a slow 2 hand back and forth stroke. It literally felt like the tightest, warmest, wettest, and softest kitty ever wrapped around my pole. She laughed as she saw my face and said "you like?" to which I emphatically nodded and then she stopped with a devilish grin. She grabbed the hot stones and started rubbing the boys with one while teasing the other all around my shaft and head. This engorged me to a point I didn't even think was possible and she moved back into the warmed hands technique and finished me off. The HJ was so mind blowing good that even though I had already spent a huge load junior was still at attention. She noticed this as she was soaping me up in the tub and reached around and soaped him up until I popped a second time in the tub before she cleaned me up. I handed her a 100 k tip to which she made a bit of a pouty face. Considering she let me go twice and on quality alone I handed her a second 100 k which drew a big smile and hug. Total damage 560 k + 200 k tip = 760 k. I gather that's a bit expensive from other posts but I honestly would pay double that for the experience.

The last night had me off to check out Travel. I went expecting a seedier / trashier experience but that's what I was looking for after having already experienced the classy end of the spectrum. I asked MMS for 2 young, skinny locals and she delivered. English was not as good as at Alexis but we were able to communicate fine. These girls were not gorgeous like the Viet at Alexis but just what I was looking for. The slutty type that wouldn't care about being dragged into a bathroom stall at a club in front of everyone. One said she was 18, the other said she was 20. The room was nowhere near as nice as Alexis but I wouldn't say it was dirty either, just OK. All 3 showered up and then off to fun on the bed. CBJ's, BLS, no DATY, LK (no LFK), FIV, MPCFS x 2. It was a really enjoyable time overall and a great value. My only complaint would be I was hoping for a little more GFE (although def more STI risk here) and a true MFF experience. It was more of a train than a 3 way. Was hoping for double BJ, and girl on girl action but settled for mutual nipple sucking and FIV with the non-mounted girl. Still very fun. Total damage: 925 k = 525 k for 1.5 hrs with the 2 girls + 200 k for 3 drinks + 200 k tip (100 k each) which they were very appreciative of and I think in hindsight wasn't necessary but oops.

Pretty much this trip has me convinced that I'm going to stop wasting my money domestically and start saving up for more flights out to SE Asia. Probably back to Jakarta with a stop in Thailand within the next few months.

Thanks to everyone that contributed info on this board. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Great post! And proof that a newbie can contribute useful info rather than just asking questions.

Also, kudos for RTFF'ing and doing your research ahead of time, that's what ISG is here for.

Arriving in Jakarta tomorrow after extended time in the provinces.

Can anyone please tell me if Top Gun and the Blok generally will be open tomorrow night and if so closing time?

Many thanks in advance.

Kadoma

[QUOTE=MWong;1587486]A quick PSA for newcomers. Most places, even those that are open over the Ramadan period, will be closed this weekend (28/29 June), for the first couple days of Ramadan, but will then re-open Monday. Examples include places like Fortune Spa and Hotel. Spas without a hotel will be generally closed for the full month of Ramadan. Malioboro, Alexis both have a hotel.

I am unsure about bars in the block for this weekend, but maybe a senior member could confirm?[/QUOTE]I was in Indonesia the last three weeks and I left just too late.

I intended to finish off lightly with one or two shags in D's on Friday evening but the VIP room was closed for business, or to be more specific: the door was open and the lighting was on full. None of the dancers was willing to go to the VIP room because of the impending Ramadhan. Too bad.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=Kadoma;1588941]Arriving in Jakarta tomorrow after extended time in the provinces.

Can anyone please tell me if Top Gun and the Blok generally will be open tomorrow night and if so closing time?

Many thanks in advance.

Kadoma[/QUOTE]I'm afraid the Blok will be more quiet than you hope. Last Friday the's was pretty dead with nothing more exciting than wathing the dancers. Top Gun seemed to be pretty busy but I didn't check.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1589331]I'm afraid the Blok will be more quiet than you hope. Last Friday the's was pretty dead with nothing more exciting than wathing the dancers. Top Gun seemed to be pretty busy but I didn't check.

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]Cheers Ko. Not expecting anything spectacular tonight, just a few beers and some quiet ogling if the gf will let me, want to get out of my kota 5* for a bit but didn't fancy the effort if everything will be shut up. Past years Ramadan experiences suggest that it can be really hit and miss. Dead as a doornail or lively as usual, for no apparent reason. Luck of the draw. On my way to Belanda of all places (and I'm not even Dutch!) and would like to take a few sweet memories to dwell on.

Unfortunately our other little mutual friend is still in the kampung and I have't been able to coax her out since Christmas. Or maybe she's lying through her teeth and just avoiding me. Whichever it is, a great pity!

Hello Everybody,

It has been quite a while ago that I contributed to the ISG forum but after my numerous trips in the past 5 weeks I though it is a must to pay back a little big.

I already travelled a lot to the many places in Asia but never to Indonesia / Jakarta. Spent 4 days in Jakarta and visited some recommendations from a friend of mine. Marliboroo, Alexis, Bats, CJ's. The usual stuff for first timers in this city.

I was totally impressed by the number of REALLY georgeous girls in the Marliboroo however found them too pushy asking for too many drinks. Therefore left this place without any girl although it was absolutely eye candy.

Went to Bats. Very rocking place with very good music however the girls were more average / more on the 30 and above league. Also not my taste.

Went to CJ's on Wednesday night (ladies night) and after entering the main door to the club I felt like "this is the place to go": Lots of girls. Basically all. Looking for fun and to make some money. Music was great. However repeating songs from the band.

Somehow I missed the chance to pick-up a very cute girl with big boobs dancing nearby, but settled with another girl (maybe a 7) and just partied in the club. After closing (3 am) my friend and his girl, myself and my girl went to another club nearby (C2?) but it was pretty dead. Left the club without the girls. Since I was not really into fucking my one neither my friend his one. Conclusion for this night: Lots of fun, but no sex.

On Friday night we went to Alexis around 11.30 pm. Cute and bombahell dancers, other than this pretty empty / dead. Maybe we were simple too early but we decided to leave and headed back to CJ's.

Pretty much many of the girls from 2 days before in the club and we straight forward hooked up with 3 of them, partied with them all night before it was time to leave (due to closure at 3 am). The girls suggested to go on partying in the same club as me and my buddy had been before (C2) and were very sceptical. However my girl said: I have a car and I will drive you there. What a surprise. I did not expect her to have a car since this I never found a girl like her in Asia having money for a car. She was not a pro but just wanted to have a good time. To cut the long story short: We all went to the club, it was absolutely crowded, bought ambottle of Wodka, partied in the club and went back to the hotel. One of the girls. Remember my friend and me picked up 3 - wanted to go back to her house which was okay For us. In the room my girl was very playful, we had great sex with a true GFE, DATY, BBBJ, CIM. Anal was not on the menu. But I did not care. After breakfast lunch. Only around 1 pm. She even droved me to the airport. I was really sad to leave, however had to take my plane to Hong Kong. I did not intend to miss the Wan Chai party on the next Sunday morning. However I of course kept her number for my next trip.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1589329]I intended to finish off lightly with one or two shags in D's on Friday evening but the VIP room was closed for business, or to be more specific: the door was open and the lighting was on full. None of the dancers was willing to go to the VIP room because of the impending Ramadhan. Too bad.

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]In Ramadan the VIP room is not open but you can still do your business in the toilet.

Perhaps you mean X2 not C2? It should have been busy on a Friday if it is.

And you did well to pick up a freebie at Cjs.

[QUOTE=CardBoy;1589407]Hello Everybody,

It has been quite a while ago that I contributed to the ISG forum but after my numerous trips in the past 5 weeks I though it is a must to pay back a little big.

I already travelled a lot to the many places in Asia but never to Indonesia / Jakarta. Spent 4 days in Jakarta and visited some recommendations from a friend of mine. Marliboroo, Alexis, Bats, CJ's. The usual stuff for first timers in this city.

I was totally impressed by the number of REALLY georgeous girls in the Marliboroo however found them too pushy asking for too many drinks. Therefore left this place without any girl although it was absolutely eye candy.

Went to Bats. Very rocking place with very good music however the girls were more average / more on the 30 and above league. Also not my taste...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kadoma;1589364]Cheers Ko. Not expecting anything spectacular tonight, just a few beers and some quiet ogling if the gf will let me, want to get out of my kota 5* for a bit but didn't fancy the effort if everything will be shut up. Past years Ramadan experiences suggest that it can be really hit and miss. Dead as a doornail or lively as usual, for no apparent reason. Luck of the draw. On my way to Belanda of all places (and I'm not even Dutch!) and would like to take a few sweet memories to dwell on.

Unfortunately our other little mutual friend is still in the kampung and I have't been able to coax her out since Christmas. Or maybe she's lying through her teeth and just avoiding me. Whichever it is, a great pity![/QUOTE]Yes, she sent me an sms claiming she wasn't even on Java. So I didn't have a chance to renew the acquaintance. Too bad, but I had fun during my stay in Jakarta.

What's the purpose of your trip to the Netherlands?

Regards,

Ko.

Hello everybody!

Though I am a regular on ISG, Uae, this is the first time I am posting here. Was visiting Jakarta for 10 days and decided to stay at grand hyatt. And it was a wonderful stay. As I was with work colleagues didn't have a chance to go alone for mongering do decided to lay my hands on what I could find in the hotel itself for the night.

The first night I asked for a massage in room at night And waited for the masseue. As usual by the time she came I had already laid out in my mind what was to follow. She entered the room and asked me to undress. And soon a perfect massage started. Near the end, she asked me if a special was required and that would cost 100 dollars. After negotiating, it was decided 150 for FS. She quickly finished the mAssage and told me she would return as she had to report to her station as they cost at 1:30.

When no one showed up till 2, I though I had wasted a day but then there was a knock and there she was for me to devour. Clothes were off in a jiffy and then everything followed step by step with me comin in her ass. Trust me guys it was FS to be talked about. She was not only fun but let me try out different stuff on her aswell.

After the first time, as she lay in my arms I offered if she could come to my room every night and for the entire period I would pay her 1200 us to which she agreed. And that was the start of my work / sex trip in Jakarta.

Anyway the girl was gorgeous and did introduce me to her cute friend as well who I did like a crazy man while she watched. Had the best threesome ever.

Rest of the trip details to follow.

Shadows

[QUOTE=Shadows;1590035]After the first time, as she lay in my arms I offered if she could come to my room every night and for the entire period I would pay her 1200 us to which she agreed. And that was the start of my work / sex trip in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]One thing I never figured out is why people overpay here when there's hundreds of thousands of girls on the market of similar caliber for 300,000 Rupiahs.

[QUOTE=Shadows;1590035]
[B]Mongering at Grand Hyatt[/B]

Hello everybody!

Though I am a regular on ISG, UAE, this is the first time I am posting here. Was visiting Jakarta for 10 days and decided to stay at Grand Hyatt. And it was a wonderful stay. As I was with work colleagues didn't have a chance to go alone for mongering do decided to lay my hands on what I could find in the hotel itself for the night.

The first night I asked for a massage in room at night And waited for the masseuse. As usual by the time she came I had already laid out in my mind what was to follow. She entered the room and asked me to undress. And soon a perfect massage started. Near the end, she asked me if a special was required and that would cost 100 dollars. After negotiating, it was decided 150 for FS. She quickly finished the massage and told me she would return as she had to report to her station as they closed at 1:30.

When no one showed up till 2, I though I had wasted a day but then there was a knock and there she was for me to devour. Clothes were off in a jiffy and then everything followed step by step with me coming in her ass. Trust me guys it was FS to be talked about. She was not only fun but let me try out different stuff on her as well.

After the first time, as she lay in my arms I offered if she could come to my room every night and for the entire period I would pay her 1200 US to which she agreed. And that was the start of my work / sex trip in Jakarta.

Anyway the girl was gorgeous and did introduce me to her cute friend as well who I did like a crazy man while she watched. Had the best threesome ever.

Rest of the trip details to follow.

Shadows[/QUOTE]I have no question that you had great sex with that young lady, and a memorable threesome as well.

However, I hope you realize that you gave her the equivalent of 6 to 9 months of salary (or more) for her to spend 10 days of her free time with you! I won't rant and rave about your spoiling the market by overpaying (although I'm sure many others might do so), but I will point out that you could have enjoyed her (and her friend) for a lot less money than that.

On a separate note, it's a shame that you didn't try to get out a bit to check out other places. You were a 5-minute (late night time!) Blue Bird taxi cab ride away from BATS (at the Shangri-La Hotel) to the south and Hotel Malioboro to the north, both places would have been open late at night. And you could have tried some mall-hunting at Plaza Indonesia/EX and Grand Indonesia - you might have picked up a freebie or near-freebie!

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1590101]
However, I hope you realize that you gave her the equivalent of 6 to 9 months of salary (or more) for her to spend 10 days of her free time with you! I won't rant and rave about your spoiling the market by overpaying (although I'm sure many others might do so), but I will point out that you could have enjoyed her (and her friend) for a lot less money than that.[/QUOTE]When I saw this earlier today, initial thought was same. But I do know that in-house massage girls, especially at 5-Star hotels will general charge significantly more than the market price, knowing full well they will usually get what they ask for. Add to the convenience of having room service every night and a few threesomes, that averages about to slightly more than $120 per night....not totally outrageous, IMHO ;)

CL and [URL]backpage.com[/URL] charge comparable for those who don't read/subscribe to ISG! Certainly he could have gotten more bang for the buck but I'm assuming he wasn't able to sneak out with business associates nearby.

I'm more surprised the girl would agree to stay overnight for 10 straight nights and still keep her job. Usually 5-star hotels, even in Jakarta are fairly strict about overnights, no?

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1590101]I have no question that you had great sex with that young lady, and a memorable threesome as well.

However, I hope you realize that you gave her the equivalent of 6 to 9 months of salary (or more) for her to spend 10 days of her free time with you! I won't rant and rave about your spoiling the market by overpaying (although I'm sure many others might do so), but I will point out that you could have enjoyed her (and her friend) for a lot less money than that.

On a separate note, it's a shame that you didn't try to get out a bit to check out other places. You were a 5-minute (late night time!) Blue Bird taxi cab ride away from BATS (at the Shangri-La Hotel) to the south and Hotel Malioboro to the north, both places would have been open late at night. And you could have tried some mall-hunting at Plaza Indonesia/EX and Grand Indonesia - you might have picked up a freebie or near-freebie![/QUOTE]Hey,

I realized I had paid more afterwards, but considering it was my first time in Jakarta, I had no idea what was the going rate.

Anyways lesson was learnt and when I return next month I'll be taking a few pointers from you guys.

As for my experience. It was basically 2 girls for approximately 7 nights and everything on the menu.

Shadows

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1589626]Yes, she sent me an sms claiming she wasn't even on Java. So I didn't have a chance to renew the acquaintance. Too bad, but I had fun during my stay in Jakarta.

What's the purpose of your trip to the Netherlands?

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]Gather you guys are talking about Rani from Blok M, whom has featured on these boards quite a bit.

She doesn't pulang kampung, as her family home is only 5 minutes from the Blok.

Well she got married a few months back to a young Western guy based in Kupang. Hence she is usually there.

However like any good young player she gets back down to business whenever she is back in town.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1590118]When I saw this earlier today, initial thought was same. But I do know that in-house massage girls, especially at 5-Star hotels will general charge significantly more than the market price, knowing full well they will usually get what they ask for. Add to the convenience of having room service every night and a few threesomes, that averages about to slightly more than $120 per night....not totally outrageous, IMHO ;)

CL and [URL]backpage.com[/URL] charge comparable for those who don't read/subscribe to ISG! Certainly he could have gotten more bang for the buck but I'm assuming he wasn't able to sneak out with business associates nearby.

I'm more surprised the girl would agree to stay overnight for 10 straight nights and still keep her job. Usually 5-star hotels, even in Jakarta are fairly strict about overnights, no?[/QUOTE]Well, I don't know how she managed that. Because even I was surprised at this. But, she was able to manage it somehow I guess. She did take a day or so off in between the nights as that's how I was introduced to her Friend.

[QUOTE=CoozeHound;1590332]Gather you guys are talking about Rani from Blok M, whom has featured on these boards quite a bit.

She doesn't pulang kampung, as her family home is only 5 minutes from the Blok.

Well she got married a few months back to a young Western guy based in Kupang. Hence she is usually there.

However like any good young player she gets back down to business whenever she is back in town.[/QUOTE]Perhaps there are 2 Ranis. The one Ko and I are talking about has a face photo posted by Botaki6 on 10/08/13. She's also 34, so not so young.

I've known her for 6 years and we text at least once a week. I just asked her about what Cooze Hound posted, saying I'd met someone who said, etc, etc, and she replied in 20 seconds flat and absolutely denies it - 'itu kabar bohong banget' claiming that she's never been to Kupang. She definitely comes from Malang, and I know she's been back there several times since I've known her.

She's a great girl, loads of fun and has always been totally honest with me and I'd love to see her any time, so I'm certainly hoping she's not bullshitting me.

[QUOTE=Kadoma;1590365]Perhaps there are 2 Ranis. The one Ko and I are talking about has a face photo posted by Botaki6 on 10/08/13. She's also 34, so not so young.

I've known her for 6 years and we text at least once a week. I just asked her about what Cooze Hound posted, saying I'd met someone who said, etc, etc, and she replied in 20 seconds flat and absolutely denies it - 'itu kabar bohong banget' claiming that she's never been to Kupang. She definitely comes from Malang, and I know she's been back there several times since I've known her.

She's a great girl, loads of fun and has always been totally honest with me and I'd love to see her any time, so I'm certainly hoping she's not bullshitting me.[/QUOTE]Rani is quite a common name in Indonesia. The last time I was there (June) I slept with another Rani a few times and it was [\U]definitely[/U] another Rani. I will post a picture of this Rani soon.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1590502]Rani is quite a common name in Indonesia. The last time I was there (June) I slept with another Rani a few times and it was [\U]definitely[/U] another Rani. I will post a picture of this Rani soon.

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your notes and clarification.

Yes a very common name and this one is aged 17. Very active and well known on the Blok M circuit.

And has been posted here over the last year. Anyway it appears all is well.

Regards.

hello brothers.

i have been living in se asia for years but mostly sticked to thailand. there will be the first time for me in jakarta soon. i know rtff but it's quite hard to dig in such a huge set of information (and my boss will rather fired me than send to jakarta for a business trip), so i have 3 simple questions and i will appreciate for answers:

1) travel hotel. can i expect something like in tulip / cherry / mango in bangkok, i. e. multishots, anal, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] (on me)?

2) how do freebies work in jakarta (date in asia works?

3) where to stay to be not far away from the action (bats, travel hotel, etc.)?

again, sorry for newbie questions but i hope you can help me.

[quote=tabasco72;1592110]hello brothers.

i have been living in se asia for years but mostly sticked to thailand. there will be the first time for me in jakarta soon. i know rtff but it's quite hard to dig in such a huge set of information (and my boss will rather fired me than send to jakarta for a business trip), so i have 3 simple questions and i will appreciate for answers:

1) travel hotel. can i expect something like in tulip / cherry / mango in bangkok, i. e. multishots, anal, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] (on me)?

2) how do freebies work in jakarta (date in asia works?

3) where to stay to be not far away from the action (bats, travel hotel, etc.)?

again, sorry for newbie questions but i hope you can help me.[/quote]tabasco,

1) you can organise multi-shots, but you'd better check with the mummy or the girl re anal and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101][CodeWord101][/url], before taking anyone to the room.

2) i haven't been on dia for ages but it's like any dating site, and there are p4 p girls as well as freebies on the site. you have to look out for the signs in what they put in the profile (a large prospective age range is normally a giveaway) and in your communications with the girl. freebies may still ask for "taxi money" but it really will be genuine taxi money to get home, as oppose to a rather more sizeable "tip". i tend to find that "commercial" girls get down to the mention of remuneration very early but ymmv. incidentally i have a rather attractive 18 yo who's in batam, wanting me to take her to jakarta next time i'm there but specifically said she doesn't want any money. don't think i will though as i don't like the idea of flying someone in sight unseen when anyone can line up a bevy of attractive women in jakarta without taking that risk.

3) what's your budget? what do you like to do more? bats and hotel travel aren't exactly that close by to each other either. bats is in the shangri-la (if that's within your means) or you can stay anywhere from swissbel to classic if that's your thing. it also depends if you're here for any work, or if this is a pure fun trip.

md ii.

[quote=masterdiverii;1592146]tabasco,

1) you can organise multi-shots, but you'd better check with the mummy or the girl re anal and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101][CodeWord101][/url], before taking anyone to the room.

2) i haven't been on dia for ages but it's like any dating site, and there are p4 p girls as well as freebies on the site. you have to look out for the signs in what they put in the profile (a large prospective age range is normally a giveaway) and in your communications with the girl. freebies may still ask for "taxi money" but it really will be genuine taxi money to get home, as oppose to a rather more sizeable "tip". i tend to find that "commercial" girls get down to the mention of remuneration very early but ymmv. incidentally i have a rather attractive 18 yo who's in batam, wanting me to take her to jakarta next time i'm there but specifically said she doesn't want any money. don't think i will though as i don't like the idea of flying someone in sight unseen when anyone can line up a bevy of attractive women in jakarta without taking that risk.

3) what's your budget? what do you like to do more? bats and hotel travel aren't exactly that close by to each other either. bats is in the shangri-la (if that's within your means) or you can stay anywhere from swissbel to classic if that's your thing. it also depends if you're here for any work, or if this is a pure fun trip.

md ii.[/quote]thanks so much mdii.

budget. well, let's say a middle-class hotel, like citadines in bkk. i guess taxi is not a problem in jakarta thus there will be not a problem to travel from bats to travel hotel to blok m, will be? thanks again.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1590118]CL charge comparable for those who don't read/subscribe to ISG![/QUOTE]If you think this plump MILF like the one attached which I took from Craigslist Indonesia is worth 1.5 million, which is the common type advertising there with the same prices, then you are being ripped off very heavily.

These kind of girls actually go for 150,000 in the local places here in Jakarta. Yes, you read that right. But of course they are trying their luck and the demand side will always pay.

[quote=tabasco72;1592110]hello brothers.

i have been living in se asia for years but mostly sticked to thailand. *snip*

1) travel hotel. can i expect something like in tulip / cherry / mango in bangkok, i. e. multishots, anal, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] (on me)?
*snip*
3) where to stay to be not far away from the action (bats, travel hotel, etc.)?

again, sorry for newbie questions but i hope you can help me.[/quote]hi tabasco. i think masterdiver has pretty much nailed most of the necessary info, but i'll add my two idr's worth:

re: something similar to tulip. i really like maribaya spa (hotel melawai, block m) in part because it reminds me of tulip. same general, down-at-the-heels seediness, shabby decor. and ladies that will turn you inside out. i recommend a visit and especially a daytime visit.

re: not far from the action. you really need pay attention to the cautions about taxi travel time in jakarta, because of the likelihood of getting caught in traffic that can 5 x your time. as md points out, if you are in jakarta on business, or for fun, will make a big difference as to where you can / should stay.

also "heads up" on ramadan, if you're traveling soon. have fun, and post your experiences! ttg.

Hey there,

Planning on visiting Jakarta soon to close the book on SEA.

How would you people compare Jakarta to Manila in terms of getting women (online and clubs)?

I am 28 so I usually just hit girls up online and invite them to dinner or out for drinks and dancing.

I have some really detailed city info / reports on many SEA and Latin American cities. PM if you would like me to send you the info.

Cheers

[QUOTE=CaliPro;1592470]

How would you people compare Jakarta to Manila in terms of getting women (online and clubs)?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Both places are similar, dead easy.

If you want non-pros to take out for dinner / dancing, hit the dating sites and you will have to beat them off with a stick. Just be very clear about what you want, the pros will still try to get you, but you won't have to pay for sex if you are taking a girl out for dinner and dancing. Of course they may get a little clingy, so manage your affairs accordingly.

Reminds me of the old expression, we don't pay them for sex, we pay them to leave.

Thanks Tim, I'll be in Jakarta for business in next month. In day time I'll have to stay at JIExpo so I think maybe Hotel Classic is not bad solution. I read about the SPA on 2nd floor and it sounds not bad. After work I'll have time to take a taxi to Blok M. Does it make sense?

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1592236]Hi Tabasco. I think MasterDiver has pretty much nailed most of the necessary info, but I'll add my two IDR's worth:

RE: something similar to Tulip. I really like Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai, block M) in part because it reminds me of Tulip. Same general, down-at-the-heels seediness, shabby decor. And ladies that will turn you inside out. I recommend a visit and especially a daytime visit.

RE: not far from the action. You really need pay attention to the cautions about taxi travel time in Jakarta, because of the likelihood of getting caught in traffic that can 5 x your time. As MD points out, if you are in Jakarta on business, or for fun, will make a big difference as to where you can / should stay.

Also "heads up" on Ramadan, if you're traveling soon. Have fun, and post your experiences! TTG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1592223]If you think this plump MILF like the one attached which I took from Craigslist Indonesia is worth 1.5 million, which is the common type advertising there with the same prices, then you are being ripped off very heavily.
[/QUOTE]You quoted me out of context.

I did not say this is fair or street price, merely for those who don't know the local market, easily taken for 1 juta ++. And showing some nasty MILF says nothing; I can equally post hotties from CL for same or less. But again one never knows until they show up.

Personally I've never paid more than 1 juta for anyone in my 30+ yrs of visiting there.

Hi Tabasco.

The JIExpo is located up north-east, near the container port or Tanjung Priok.

Its close to Alexis. Which in many peoples opinion is the best top-shelf bordello in Jakarta, but the prices are up there as well.

Otherwise its not far from Kota area, where you have lots of choice including Classic Hotel at Pasar Baru.

But that area is a long drive to BlokM, if your wanting to goto Maribaya for a quickie after work then forget it. At 5 pm it will take over 2 hrs to get there. Actually might be closer to 3 hrs at 5 pm, and at least 1. 5-2 hrs back. If you do decide to go there, then stay in BlokM and goto one of the many Japanese resto bars for a ramen and beers to pass by the hours until the traffic dies down.

If you goto blokM later in the night, say after 10 pm, when the freelancer bars are happening, then it might be 1 hr each way on a good run with an honest taxi driver.

Depends a little where your staying of course as well.

Good luck.

Cheers HHM.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1592637]Thanks Tim, I'll be in Jakarta for business in next month. In day time I'll have to stay at JIExpo so I think maybe Hotel Classic is not bad solution. I read about the SPA on 2nd floor and it sounds not bad. After work I'll have time to take a taxi to Blok M. Does it make sense?[/QUOTE]

Just to add, in my experience, twitter has much much more gorgeous girls, usually cheaper (again models you pay more for), and the girls far younger than CL.
CL is for foreigners who arrive in-country with no other information at their fingertips. Twitter is for locals on the ground.

Have a look at some of the girls to see their prices. Start from 700 k ST 2 pops and go up from there (there are older cheaper girls on twitter but I don't follow them), usually all have juicy photos in their account to entice customers.

Don't flame me - I'm just providing information for bro's who may want an additional source of P4P - particularly useful over ramadan I might add for an out-call to your room.

Good luck.

HHM.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1592723]You quoted me out of context.

I did not say this is fair or street price, merely for those who don't know the local market, easily taken for 1 juta ++. And showing some nasty MILF says nothing; I can equally post hotties from CL for same or less. But again one never knows until they show up.

Personally I've never paid more than 1 juta for anyone in my 30+ yrs of visiting there.[/QUOTE]

Thanks HHM. I'll try to manage my time between those 2 places (JIExpo and Blok M). It's possible, that I'll have a day or 2 off thus I can move to different hotel.

One more question:

How does look BDSM scene in Jakarta. I browsed internet but everything I found was a TS domina (really, not my cup of tea).

Cheers.

Tabasco.

[QUOTE=HardHatMate;1592973]Hi Tabasco.

The JIExpo is located up north-east, near the container port or Tanjung Priok.

Its close to Alexis. Which in many peoples opinion is the best top-shelf bordello in Jakarta, but the prices are up there as well.

Otherwise its not far from Kota area, where you have lots of choice including Classic Hotel at Pasar Baru.

But that area is a long drive to BlokM, if your wanting to goto Maribaya for a quickie after work then forget it. At 5 pm it will take over 2 hrs to get there. Actually might be closer to 3 hrs at 5 pm, and at least 1. 5-2 hrs back. If you do decide to go there, then stay in BlokM and goto one of the many Japanese resto bars for a ramen and beers to pass by the hours until the traffic dies down.

If you goto blokM later in the night, say after 10 pm, when the freelancer bars are happening, then it might be 1 hr each way on a good run with an honest taxi driver.

Depends a little where your staying of course as well.

Good luck.

Cheers HHM.[/QUOTE]

Maybe stupid question, but how do you find those girls on Twitter? BTW, is this possible you upload thei accounts, I tried to add them from pics you posted but my eyes are not good enough to read such small characters.

Cheetrs.

T. 72.

[QUOTE=HardHatMate;1592983]Just to add, in my experience, twitter has much much more gorgeous girls, usually cheaper (again models you pay more for), and the girls far younger than CL.
CL is for foreigners who arrive in-country with no other information at their fingertips. Twitter is for locals on the ground.

Have a look at some of the girls to see their prices. Start from 700 k ST 2 pops and go up from there (there are older cheaper girls on twitter but I don't follow them), usually all have juicy photos in their account to entice customers.

Don't flame me - I'm just providing information for bro's who may want an additional source of P4P - particularly useful over ramadan I might add for an out-call to your room.

Good luck.

HHM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1592236]

RE: something similar to Tulip. I really like Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai, block M) in part because it reminds me of Tulip. Same general, down-at-the-heels seediness, shabby decor. And ladies that will turn you inside out. I recommend a visit and especially a daytime visit.[/QUOTE]I would appreciate some clarification on the similarities between Maribaya and Tulip. For me, Tulip (as well as Snow White, Mango, Cherry, etc,) is distinguished by unlimited shots, availability of anal from many of the ladies, rimming, and so forth). On a friend's recommendation I went to Maribaya a few years ago, and got none of this, indeed a rather mediocre session worse than what I'm used to at the PenJay places and then out the door after one shot. I later heard Maribaya had gone downhill seriously and that could have been the problem, but I don't know if that was really true, or instead I just had bad luck with my session. And another possibility I suppose is it went downhill (my session was before the renovation) and has since restored its earlier level of service.

So TimTimGuy (or anyone else), in terms of service specifically, and the factors I listed, what is your experience at Maribaya that makes it similar to Tulip? This is important to me as while I like the P4 P scene in Jakarta quite a bit, while there I often am looking forward with anticipation to the Bangkok part of my trip largely owing to the service at the oil massage places there (including Tulip).

Thanks in advance for any additional information as I would like to try Maribaya again but only if indeed the service there these days is up to the level of the Bangkok oilies.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1593028]I would appreciate some clarification on the similarities between Maribaya and Tulip. For me, Tulip (as well as Snow White, Mango, Cherry, etc,) is distinguished by unlimited shots, availability of anal from many of the ladies, rimming, and so forth). *snip*
Thanks in advance for any additional information as I would like to try Maribaya again but only if indeed the service there these days is up to the level of the Bangkok oilies.[/QUOTE]Hi LA Guy. I don't think it's possible to answer your Qs. I stated why I like Maribaya, but I should have / could have added that, after 8 or more years, I don't go to Tulip anymore -- and wander over the Mango or Snow White instead. (Both Nestle and Nong were "friends" of mine at Tulip.) I think Tulip has gone downhill, which makes responding to you even more difficult.

I also think that trying to compare Jakarta shops to Bangkok MPs -- or Manila, or Phnom Penh, etc. -- is also pointless. You play the hand you're dealt, and play in the city where you are. If you're lining up a mongering trip, too many other variables are also in play. Personally, I'd go to Bali as a first choice, with Bangkok tied with Jakarta next. And Manila on the list.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience at Maribaya, but in all cases, YMMV. I have always, every time, had unlimited shots at Maribaya, if that info is any help. TTG.

Hey bro, the great thing about twitter is once you follow a certain type of individual, it automatically suggest others similar (just check you have this feature turned on). So find a few P4 P and you'll have many more suggested to you.

Second thing is, make sure your country is set to Indonesia – many people set the settings at only their home country so their searches and their tweets aren't going all over the world – change yours to Indo.

Thirdly, Once you've changed your region to Indo – search on "promote bisyar" , then look at the pictures for whatsapp or phone numbers or look at who their following for girls.

Or do some word title searches on "bisyar" "cewek" combo, and possibly some detail searches on "kondom" , "jam", "crot or croot", "ST or LT" – once you get a few you follow, then twitter will suggest many more – always look at whom the P4 P girls follow and you will find many are following other P4 P (I guess checking the competition?) , this is also a good tip and then you get the 6 degree's happening.

A couple of them are;.

Promote #Bisyar.

At Callme_Tams.

Bisyar Promote.

At bisyar_promote.

Promote Bisyar™.

At Promote_Bisyar.

Promote bisyar.

At Info_Bisyar.

As far as BDSM goes – not sure which side of the coin you are looking for – but my experience in Indo is that many girls like to take on the submissive role – I'm sure there are reasons why (westerners are bigger, strong, masculine, dominant, hairy etc etc). As far as an organized scene goes, there isn't any as far as I know, you will find little P4 P on twitter, but the experience and the service I think leaves alot to be desired, compared to western standards. If want more BDSM from my own experience on the local scene please PM me.

Good luck and stay safe bro.

HHM.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1593021]Maybe stupid question, but how do you find those girls on Twitter? BTW, is this possible you upload thei accounts, I tried to add them from pics you posted but my eyes are not good enough to read such small characters.

Cheetrs.

T. 72.[/QUOTE]

Forgot to mention, once you find some;.

Jam = hour.

Crot or croot = pop or cum.

1 jt or 1 juta= 1 million rupiah.

700 rb = 700,000 rupiah.

Pijat = massage.

Th or tahun = age.

Kamar = room.

That should get you started.

[QUOTE=HardHatMate;1593103]Hey bro, the great thing about twitter is once you follow a certain type of individual, it automatically suggest others similar (just check you have this feature turned on). So find a few P4 P and you'll have many more suggested to you.

Second thing is, make sure your country is set to Indonesia many people set the settings at only their home country so their searches and their tweets aren't going all over the world change yours to Indo.

Thirdly, Once you've changed your region to Indo search on "promote bisyar" , then look at the pictures for whatsapp or phone numbers or look at who their following for girls.

Or do some word title searches on "bisyar" "cewek" combo, and possibly some detail searches on "kondom" , "jam", "crot or croot", "ST or LT" once you get a few you follow, then twitter will suggest many more always look at whom the P4 P girls follow and you will find many are following other P4 P (I guess checking the competition?) , this is also a good tip and then you get the 6 degree's happening.

A couple of them are;.

Promote #Bisyar.

At Callme_Tams.

Bisyar Promote.

At bisyar_promote.

Promote Bisyar.

At Promote_Bisyar.

Promote bisyar.

At Info_Bisyar.

As far as BDSM goes not sure which side of the coin you are looking for but my experience in Indo is that many girls like to take on the submissive role I'm sure there are reasons why (westerners are bigger, strong, masculine, dominant, hairy etc etc). As far as an organized scene goes, there isn't any as far as I know, you will find little P4 P on twitter, but the experience and the service I think leaves alot to be desired, compared to western standards. If want more BDSM from my own experience on the local scene please PM me.

Good luck and stay safe bro.

HHM.[/QUOTE]

I am new to Jakarta. Arrived here to work in mid-June in the provinces.

Been to Jakarta twice for 3 days each time. I wrote a trip report on my initial visit.

On my 1st visit, I went back to BATS, on Friday night. Got there at 9:00 because I had to kill time somewhere, somehow.

I sat at the bar next to a 40 something woman who it turns out works in the hotel. We had a nice chat until later when I took Astrid home.

On my 2nd visit, I went back to BATS, this time on Sunday night. My friend was there with her younger 30 something sister. Sis was cute but didn; t think she was there for a pickup so I got her number.

To make a long story short, I am back in Jakarta and sis is driving her car to pick me up for dinner. She is even bringing the beer.

Got to go. More to come I hope.

Can someone break down the best pickup bars and clubs in North Jakarta and South Jakarta (Kuta?) for a 28 year old single guy?

I am talking about normal bars and clubs that just happen to have easy women not in service brothels etc. Free-lance places are ok as well.

This is why P4 P is such a great thing. No waiting, no wondering.

My date picked me up on time and we went to dinner at a Japanese restaurant in Shangri-la. I knewright then it would be expensive.

Then she called her friend on the drive to the restaurant and invited her to join us. YIKES.

Dinnwe was very good, but to the tune of 2 million.

I realized pretty quickly I wouldn't get laid tonight so I acted tired and she drove me home.

I haeded to CJ's and found the cuteset little thing and took her home.

After her, I strolled down the street to Top Gun and brought home Elly (previously seen). Best sex yet. As she wants to be my girlfriend.

Last night's date and her sister took me around town today. In their Mercedes. And helped me shop. My investment might still pan out. If not for sex then for other things.

CHEERS.

Dear friends,

I am backpacking to indonesia in Jan and I am budget traveler. My itinerary would be roughly as follows.

Jakarta- Yogyakarta- Karimunjava- Bali- Lombak.

I would be spending at least 2 days in each of the cities. Need information regarding mongering in Jakarta for 2 days. Is mongering in Bali is budget friendly? I am traveling in off season so how much is required for mongering in Jakarata and Bali. Also in my above itinerary is there any places for mongering?

Hello friends,

I will be backpacking to Indonesia alone in Mar for 2 weeks. My itinerary would be as below.

Jakarta- Yogyakarta- Karimunjava- Bali- Lombak.

I Will stay at lesat for 2 days in each cities. Would like to try mongering in Jakarta since Bali is not budget friendly.

Please suggest me the places in Jakarta for mongering and approx budget.

Is there any other place in my itinerary wher I could monger aprt from Bali.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Omerta;1593631]Hello friends,

I will be backpacking to Indonesia alone in Mar for 2 weeks. My itinerary would be as below.

Jakarta- Yogyakarta- Karimunjava- Bali- Lombak.

I Will stay at lesat for 2 days in each cities. Would like to try mongering in Jakarta since Bali is not budget friendly.

Please suggest me the places in Jakarta for mongering and approx budget.

Is there any other place in my itinerary wher I could monger aprt from Bali.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The short answer is: RTFF.

If you are too lazy to check posts for a couple of months back, how can you expect serious contributors to take you by the hand and guide you?

Regards,

Ko.

Went for a walk around the Mall of Indonesia and happened upon V- Four. Massage. I walked in and paid the man 100,000 for 90 minutes. I was escorted to a room. A few minutes later in walked Rere. 4'11" maybe 90 pounds cups flat stomach and hair down to her ass. She asked me to undress and lay one the bed. I complied and she gave me a so so massage for about 30 minutes before the flip came. After the flip it didn't take long for the proposition and haggling to begin. We settled on 600 k for FS. Well I should have made sure BJ's were on the menu before I agreed. They we not. Lesson learned. We fool around for a bit and get down to it. MPCFS for about 45 minutes until I pop. She cleaned me up a bit and put me in the shower to finish up on my own.

Overall for my first time out alone in a area I know nothing about it was a success. That being said I know I overpaid and can do better.

Location 4/10

Rere. 7/10

Menu. 5/10

[QUOTE=Towelboy2010;1593610]This is why P4 P is such a great thing. No waiting, no wondering.

My date picked me up on time and we went to dinner at a Japanese restaurant in Shangri-la. I knewright then it would be expensive.

Then she called her friend on the drive to the restaurant and invited her to join us. YIKES.

Dinnwe was very good, but to the tune of 2 million.

I realized pretty quickly I wouldn't get laid tonight so I acted tired and she drove me home.

I haeded to CJ's and found the cuteset little thing and took her home.

After her, I strolled down the street to Top Gun and brought home Elly (previously seen). Best sex yet. As she wants to be my girlfriend.

Last night's date and her sister took me around town today. In their Mercedes. And helped me shop. My investment might still pan out. If not for sex then for other things.

CHEERS.[/QUOTE]This is normal in Jakarta, cheap sex is plentiful with lower end girls but better girls are not in places like Top Gun for sure and cost on average 1 to 2 million. Free sex is also widely available but includes the obligatory expensive meal and shopping to allow you to spend plentifully & then you get the 'free' sex that just cost you time & much more money. Be careful you're not being manipulated in the meals / shopping. I have been & the sex was about the same as a girl from CJ's but required effort! Unless you're a handsome, well groomed & charming great catch, which I'm certainly not!. There will be a catch for sure! Hati hati. As they say!

[QUOTE=Omerta;1593631]Hello friends,

I will be backpacking to Indonesia alone in Mar for 2 weeks. My itinerary would be as below.

Jakarta- Yogyakarta- Karimunjava- Bali- Lombok.

I Will stay at least for 2 days in each cities. Would like to try mongering in Jakarta since Bali is not budget friendly.

Please suggest me the places in Jakarta for mongering and approx budget.

Is there any other place in my itinerary where I could monger apart from Bali.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Since when did Bali become "not budget friendly"?

(unless you are on the old "Indonesia on $10 a day" budget that was possible 45 years ago).

By the way, backpackers who stay at backpacker-budget facilities (such as Jalan Jaksa in Jakarta) may find it difficult to get working girls to go back to their rooms with them, unless of course you find a girl who's working Jalan Jaksa itself or in some of the lower-end places (such as Kali Jodo which may not be a safe destination for a foreigner / first-time-visitor.

RTFF!

Big thanks to all for the tons of valuable info over the years. Long time lurker here, first time trip-report-contributor. Guilty I know. First trip to Big Durian was two years ago, when most of my mongering energy and time was sapped by falling ill, combination of traveler's cold, traveler's belly, and possible reaction to the air pollution (does that happen to others?) that I just couldn't kick. But I did manage a couple trips to Hotel Classic. Terminal 2, and a visit to CJs and Hotel Melawi. Maribaya Massage. Just enough to whet my appetite, and after 2 years I finally landed back at CGK. I'm a bule with limited Bahasa Indonesian.

Landed late after flight delay, full of apprehension about how long it would take me to get to the hotel, showered and back out to my first destination. Mainly I was nervous about Ramadan. Would BATS be open late? Would there be attractive prospects offering a good time? Or due to being last night of World Cup. Would the place be closing early and everyone heading home to watch the match? Fortunately my fears were unfounded. Bit of a wait for luggage and taxi (found the blue bird stand while searching for an ATM accepting visa or amex cards) there was little traffic (around 9:00/10:00 pm) and I made it to hotel with plenty of time to unpack, shower, and relax after long flight.

Rested longer than I meant to and didn't make it to BATS until midnight. My hotel ATM didn't take my cards, and Shangra La hotel ATM was out-of-service. Concierge told me about 2nd ATM on premises but following his directions just took me to BATS. The band was in full force and the bar was crowded. Passed many interesting and interested ladies as I circled the bar to get my red bull. Lots of tight dresses on slim bodies with long hair. Just my thing. But big range of ages and general attractiveness. I have a hard time checking the ladies out while trying to avoid eye contact. Favorable ratio of women to men, and despite Ramadan it looked like plenty of talent to go around.

As I was making my round I noticed a pretty face with a bright smile lighting up the room. She smiled right at me and I smiled back. After I found a bit of corner to relax with drink she showed up next to me. Introduced herself as Hesti. We pretended to chat, obviously not hearing each other in the music, but she made all the right body moves, snuggling up close, teasing, stroking, sucking my finger, little kisses and a few other tricks. So we left soon after and caught taxi back. Stopped at a bank to try another ATM. Which only took mastercard, still no visa or amexbut at least it was something. Does anyone know where to go for visa or amex ATMs?

Lots more snuggling and teasing in the backseat. Up to the room she gets naked immediately and we finally negotiate 1 juta and go at it. She's a tiger. Passionate nonstop DFK, DT if brief BBBJ, and many many positions. Extremely hot. She came on top, then I in K9. Before I could catch my breath she was stroking me and pulling me back in. She kept switching positions, like walking across the room and mounting the couch with her ass up in the air for me. Eventually I came again in a thunderous and sweaty explosion. I collapsed on her and couldn't move off the bed and she went around getting herself dressed. I guess I forgot to say LT but I was so satisfied and needing my sleep to beat the jetlag that I let her go. She left me her number. I guess that was my first "runner" LOL, should have known better than to not specify upfront. Still an enthusiastic GFE and I was very pleased.

Slept great and although I missed out on some wake-up sex, I was ready for some afternoon action. However I called around in advance of braving the traffic in order to best plan my afternoon and was dismayed to learn that both Hotel Classic Terminal and Hotel Travel are closed today! They said open again tomorrow at 2 pm. I asked if there would be lots of ladies and the lady at Travel just giggled and some try tomorrow. WTF. Is this some mid-ramadan thing? This afternoon was my biggest block of freetime for play, and now am a little as loose ends at how to make the most of it. It is possible I could have more daytime this week but no guarantee. Today I was really hoping to get out there. Oh well. Tried to browse CL, twitter, and wechat app but couldn't find anything that looked reliable enough. Just too new to this techie stuff I guess.

Now I'm wondering what to do with myself for the next 6 hours or so until night when I will head back out to BATS / CJs. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance and I will do my best to share more adventures in the few days that I am in town. Short trip this time, already working on scheduling my return next year.

OK fellows, since I'm preparing to my first trip to Jakarta I gave a try to CL. I sent an e-mail and politely asked about price. The answer was 200 USD / St. Well. Thanks the forum I know the prices. Since she is not a super-top-model I worte "Darling, your price is too high. How about 700.000 + good bonus if you make me happy". The answer was. Actually, there was no answer.

I don't get this kind of behavior. You can work and have 700000+tip or you can wait (1 day? 2 days? 1 week?) for a naive one and earn 200 USD. If I were her, I would earn easy 700.000+tip.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1594421]
I don't get this kind of behavior. You can work and have 700000+tip or you can wait (1 day? 2 days? 1 week?) for a naive one and earn 200 USD. If I were her, I would earn easy 700.000+tip.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Jakarta CL. That's what they're quoting as CL's street price! There are takers for this, which is why she won't respond to you. And that's why I posted earlier for those who aren't familiar with ISG, paying $120++ isn't a 'bad' price, LOL.

One more question to locals: how much is a taxi from North Jakarta (let's say near by Travel Hotel) to Blok M? Does the price depend on time (day / night)? Thanks.

Cheers.

T. 72.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1594464]One more question to locals: how much is a taxi from North Jakarta (let's say near by Travel Hotel) to Blok M? Does the price depend on time (day / night)? Thanks.

Cheers.

T. 72[/QUOTE]Not only does it vary by traffic (much less at night, after 10 or so) but it also varies by cab company. Silver bird is reputable but expensive. The upmarket blue bird. Silver bird can get pretty expensive. That ride on silver could be around 100 k.

[QUOTE=Dbuko;1594546]Not only does it vary by traffic (much less at night, after 10 or so) but it also varies by cab company. Silver bird is reputable but expensive. The upmarket blue bird. Silver bird can get pretty expensive. That ride on silver could be around 100 k.[/QUOTE]Oops I forgot to add my own report from last night. I ended up sleeping through the afternoon after learning that Classic, Travel etc were closed for the day. Had late Saturday dinner (yum, can't get enough of that stuff!) and I was off to CJs. Doorman at Hotel Mulia asked if I was staying at their hotel. Annoyed, I figured none of his business. Then I found the CJs door locked and dark. After a bit of wandering around to ensure that there wasn't some secret back entrance to a private party room, I went back out to fetch another taxi. Doorman explained that all the bars were closed today. One day only. Back open tomorrow. Even JF bars by Blok M, I asked? He wasn't sure and suggested I go check. So off to JF with a chatty taxi driver eager to learn about the size of various European and No American cities and their relative proximity. All the JF bars were indeed closed.

As we exited the street I caught the eye of a few ladies standing on the street looking about -- by the time I'd processed the who and the what, we'd moved on. Not sure I would have actually gone through with a street pickup like that, given all the unknowns and risks, however in retrospect that was to have been my best bet. But my cabbie was driving fast and I was thinking slow, so he took me back to hotel. In a fit of helpfulness he dropped at the back entrance where there is a club as well (I hadn't know this even existed). He asked at the gaurd station and they all knew about it so I figured worth a shot. It was closed too, of course!

Back up my room I start texting with my ST from last night. But she's at home an hour away. She agrees to come over anyway, but after a long while she says she can't find any taxi. Ignoring the rationale pleas from my brain and body to go to sleep, I take another venture online. I had downloaded both whatapp and wechat. Can't figure out whatsapp. Doesn't seem a way to search or find anyone. Had on offer for massage on wechat from earier but no reply now. I am only confessing this for the good of the forum, but I sacrificed by dignity as a mongerer and ended up on CL. Texted the two youngest girls, both replied, one more responsive than the other. Turns out the other tried to get me on wechat but I was only paying attention texts. Yes I suck at the tech stuff! Negotiated a bit but arrive at 1 jt for 2 croot, which I disclose at the risk of being ridiculed as part of the discussion about inflated CL prices on this very page! Yet I was desperate and she was available.

She arrived in a nice tight black dress, definitely young but huskier than pics. Still small by western standards, and short. She stripped and gave 2 really sweet BBBJs with happy CIM conclusions. Can't really beat that, so after all missed connections through the night I had finally made my satisfactory contributions to the jakarta nightlife and drifted off to a restful sleep. She was 22 and still in school, happy, decent kisser, and gave very enjoyable BBBJ, slow and deep, lots of wet attention to the balls, and even responded to my questions with my cock muffling her mouth. Can I come in your mouth? Muahha gha hahh, she said, nodding her head as she continued to bob up and down. Afterwards she showered in my bathroom to beat the start of the day's ramadan observance (such a devout girl).

The doormen at Mulia and Top Gun, as well as the phone operators at Classic, Travel, and Melawi all said that places would be open today, so I am hoping things are back to business and I will just suck up my experience to the poor timing of my visit during ramadan (and a possible extra holy-Monday? Inadequate preparation, and some timidity. Ended well enough, just a shame that I only have a couple nights left. Looking forward to a more straight forward time today / night.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1594464]One more question to locals: how much is a taxi from North Jakarta (let's say near by Travel Hotel) to Blok M? Does the price depend on time (day / night)? Thanks.

Cheers.

T. 72.[/QUOTE]It completely depends on the time you go. If you go at night, it will likely be about 30 to 40,000 rupiah one way. You are far from Blok M. If rush hour, double that.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1594464]One more question to locals: how much is a taxi from North Jakarta (let's say near by Travel Hotel) to Blok M? Does the price depend on time (day / night)? Thanks.

Cheers.

T. 72.[/QUOTE]To T 92.

Taxi in Jarkata is very cheap one of the cheapest in Asia but I advice you to take only Blue bird or silver bird cab avoid taxi that don't use meter many taxi driver will try to scam you, if you travel from Kota to Blok M it should be about 40k that is about 3.5 USD but at late night there is a surcharge but traffic is light.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1595020]I advice you to take only Blue bird or silver bird[/QUOTE]I think Express taxi's are also fine. So are Taxiku and Gamya. And those 3 are all cheaper than blue bird. I've never had any of those taxis try to scam me.

Avoid Koperasi taxi.

Got one of these bitches from CL Jakarta.

She asked for 650.000 but negotiated down to 500.000. Happy camper and came on time despite notorious Jakarta traffic.

Best blowjob I ever experienced. Great vacuum suction, balls licking and plenty of eye contact. Finished with CIM swallow for 2 pops.

I was in CJs the other night, sitting at the bar in the room off to the left and realised there was an expat lady sitting across the bar from me. At first I thought it was somebodies wife coming to check out what really happens there, or perhaps some hapless business traveler who didn't realise what she had gotten herself into.

No, no, turned out she was there for the same reason we are, she was trying to chat up one of the girls. Lots of arm touching, giggling and twirling of the hair. I was very tempted to stay and watch to see what happened, but I had already made my selection and the little head was getting impatient so we left before I could see what happened with the expat lady. My selection was a repeat of a couple of previous times, an older girl from Yogya that has one of the best BJ techniques I have come across and is a great masseur as well. Being ramadan she would not stay for morning action. I understand the no eating and no drinking, but I did not realise it meant they literally cannot put anything in her mouth after about 4:30 am which included my dick.

AgentOrange, damn those titties have taken some abuse in the last pic, looks like a lot of bruising. Reminds me of a hotel massage girl who after we negotiated the deal went to the bathroom and came back naked with bruises all over her tits. Bit of a turnoff, but I managed to doggie my to completion.

[QUOTE=AgentOrange;1595064]Got one of these bitches from CL Jakarta.

She asked for 650.000 but negotiated down to 500.000. Happy camper and came on time despite notorious Jakarta traffic.

Best blowjob I ever experienced. Great vacuum suction, balls licking and plenty of eye contact. Finished with CIM swallow for 2 pops.[/QUOTE]It looks like someone clamped her tits down in a vice and beat them mercilessly the day before you were with her.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1595168]It looks like someone clamped her tits down in a vice and beat them mercilessly the day before you were with her.[/QUOTE]Naw, someone like me was titfawking her like a tight pasay hahahaha.

At Smoothy and at Fast Edie.

Thank you Brothers. Can't wait to be in Jakarta. I'm really curious what will be my feeling since I'm addicted to Bangkok and Pats.

T. 72.

Hi Everyone.

I am from India and will be in Jakarta from 6th to 8th August. I have been booked in Ritz Carlton. Could you guys give me some pointers if there are pick ups available at the hotel bar Tempus or would it be better to get an escort service in the room.

Looking forward to a nice trip with the help of you guys.

Thanks.

A.

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1595653]I have been booked in Ritz Carlton. Could you guys give me some pointers if there are pick ups available at the hotel bar Tempus or would it be better to get an escort service in the room.
[/QUOTE]Tempus / Ritz Carlton isn't known as a good pickup spot. You may get a possible pickup there but not guaranteed. Also, likely to be expensive.

There are a few escort services advertised in Jakarta but so far I haven't found it good enough to recommend.

If you don't mind going out to pick up someone. The Senayan area bars and BATS at Shangri-La are the nearest hunting grounds. Blok M (Jalan Falatehan, the sports bars there) is also reasonably near.

Best wishes.

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1595653]Hi Everyone.

**snip**[/QUOTE]RTFF.

Don't double post.

Have a nice day.

Normally RTFF, but as you've contributed lots in other forums;.

- Expensive bar in an expensive hotel, if your co' pays the bill then go to the bar and buy long islands ice teas for the ayam that frequent the bar. Its low key, but their definitely there, easy to spot because they will make the eye contact and also the fact they'll be sitting on 1 glass of white wine for many hours, usually alone. That is of course until you get the "where you from, how long, where you stay mister" , which incidentally will then dictate the price they charge you. Quite soon after those questions they will be asking for a long island ice tea. In fact I remember one time in BATs, I met a girl and I asked her name, she responded with "long island ice tea". Well, you can imagine how much fun I had with that ayam for the next 5 mintues. Sorry I digress.

- The non-hooker type, expect well dressed expats and local women who come for the latin dancing, but there is very little chance they will talk to you. Especially if their wealthy stuck-up shit-don't-stink Indo-Chinese women.

- I can think of a hundred places in the city which have better bars and better girls, and both cheaper.

- Short walk to Loewy, for another overpriced experience. But with more girls and more hookers too.

Best bet is do some research on this forum, and then choose a few places to explore. Do the taxi thing. Its perfectly safe, albeit can be long journeys in traffic between venues though.

Rgds HHM.

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1595653]Hi Everyone.

I am from India and will be in Jakarta from 6th to 8th August. I have been booked in Ritz Carlton. Could you guys give me some pointers if there are pick ups available at the hotel bar Tempus or would it be better to get an escort service in the room.

Looking forward to a nice trip with the help of you guys.

Thanks.

A.[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much for your help and advice. I am now RTFF too.

[QUOTE=HardHatMate;1595694]Normally RTFF, but as you've contributed lots in other forums;.

- Expensive bar in an expensive hotel, if your co' pays the bill then go to the bar and buy long islands ice teas for the ayam that frequent the bar. Its low key, but their definitely there, easy to spot because they will make the eye contact and also the fact they'll be sitting on 1 glass of white wine for many hours, usually alone. That is of course until you get the "where you from, how long, where you stay mister" , which incidentally will then dictate the price they charge you. Quite soon after those questions they will be asking for a long island ice tea. In fact I remember one time in BATs, I met a girl and I asked her name, she responded with "long island ice tea". Well, you can imagine how much fun I had with that ayam for the next 5 mintues. Sorry I digress.

- The non-hooker type, expect well dressed expats and local women who come for the latin dancing, but there is very little chance they will talk to you. Especially if their wealthy stuck-up shit-don't-stink Indo-Chinese women.

- I can think of a hundred places in the city which have better bars and better girls, and both cheaper.

- Short walk to Loewy, for another overpriced experience. But with more girls and more hookers too.

Best bet is do some research on this forum, and then choose a few places to explore. Do the taxi thing. Its perfectly safe, albeit can be long journeys in traffic between venues though.

Rgds HHM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaliPro;1593409]Can someone break down the best pickup bars and clubs in North Jakarta and South Jakarta (Kuta?) for a 28 year old single guy?

I am talking about normal bars and clubs that just happen to have easy women not in service brothels etc. Free-lance places are ok as well.[/QUOTE]I just noted you were posting all sorts of questions last year about visiting Jakarta and hoping for super cheap rates, then disappeared. What happened? How was your $40 USD a night hotel budget working out for you?

If you thought that was pushing your budget, you certainly don't want to visit Jakarta now! Or even worse Bali. Which is where Kuta is BTW. You don't even need to RTFF to determine that, Google does a fine enough job (or a map).

Love to see your info on other place via PM as you have suggested before. Hopefully it isn't a copy and paste from other people's experiences. Fast Eddie, are you listening? Google can show you that too. As well as the source of any photos you pinch!

Sorry guys, couldn't resist.

On a more serious note, am I the only one finding the exchange rate / inflation rate really starting to bite in Jakarta? Especially notable in taxi fares.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;1595757]On a more serious note, am I the only one finding the exchange rate / inflation rate really starting to bite in Jakarta? Especially notable in taxi fares.[/QUOTE]If you're paid in foreign currency or change into Rupiah, it wouldn't have any negative effect since the currency depreciation worked in your favor. Compared to Bangkok and other places inflation hasn't really reared its ugly head that much. For example, my fare to my usual destinations still costs the same as it did in 2011 when I take taxi companies Taxiku or Rosalina. My plate of soto ayam still costs the same among other dishes. The rent for my centrally-located apartment has only inched up 2% over a three-year period which is fine.

The only thing that's risen significantly is the price of import chics at Malio / Bunker / etc from 1.750.000 to 2.000.000 and upwards. And places like Classic and Travel and King Cross from 275 to 350 and 300 to 350 and 375 to 450 respectively.

Another thing I noticed is the girls are getting greedier when it comes to tipping and gone are the days when you'd shoot a nice load bareback and get 2 shots for 30 or 50. These days they need at least 100 or 150 and you probably won't be getting a second shot.

In freelancer places it's totally supply and demand and depends how desperate the girl is that night. I still get 700 at Blok M bars and 1.000.000 at CJ's / BATS these days (short time although some of them do end up staying long time).

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1595653]Could you guys give me some pointers if there are pick ups available at the hotel bar Tempus.[/QUOTE]Tempus disco closed down a few years ago and wasn't a good pick up spot even when it was open. The little bar outside of it is still open for salsa and tango dancing on special nights, but it's not a pick up spot at all. If you are Indian, maybe you should try De Leila in Gatot Sabroto not too far from the Planet Hollywood. I forget the name of the building it's in, but the taxis will know. That bar caters to Indians and Arabs and the girls there reflect the type of girl they normally like.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1594700]It completely depends on the time you go. If you go at night, it will likely be about 30 to 40,000 rupiah one way. You are far from Blok M. If rush hour, double that.[/QUOTE]And when it starts to rain, treble that.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1595053]I think Express taxi's are also fine. So are Taxiku and Gamya. And those 3 are all cheaper than blue bird. I've never had any of those taxis try to scam me.

Avoid Koperasi taxi.[/QUOTE]My experience is the same. Express is slightly cheaper, both flag fall and km rate, but usually I see more Bluebirds.

No reason to go for Silver Bird or White Horse unless you crave status above transport.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1595939]No reason to go for Silver Bird or White Horse unless you crave status above transport.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. So many travel guides and websites still insist that the only trustworthy Jakarta taxis are Bluebird and Silver Bird that I'm sure a lot of newcomers will take nothing else, even if it means paying the premium for the latter.

I can't remember any bad experiences with any of the big taxi companies -- BB Group, Express, Putra, Transcab, Taxiku, Gamya etc. The ones to watch out for are the older, rather more battered cars that tend to come out after dark, often with colors and logos that look like the main companies.

Also: newbies should know that whenever traffic is bad, the busway can be much quicker (not to mention cheaper) than any cab. For example, between North Jakarta and Blok M, which is a straight shot on the bus.

Thanks Smoothy.

I am placed at ritz and all the seminars are in the same hotel. So travelling looks difficult. I am now searching for some escorts who would come and then leave.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1595799]Tempus disco closed down a few years ago and wasn't a good pick up spot even when it was open. The little bar outside of it is still open for salsa and tango dancing on special nights, but it's not a pick up spot at all. If you are Indian, maybe you should try De Leila in Gatot Sabroto not too far from the Planet Hollywood. I forget the name of the building it's in, but the taxis will know. That bar caters to Indians and Arabs and the girls there reflect the type of girl they normally like.[/QUOTE]

I am Staying in Sari pan pacific hotel now. Could any body help me where is a good location to pick up a young girl, to bring to my room for long time. Or any massage places that will be open in the day time, and what would be the rates? And if they provide BBj?

Is the bars and the massage places will be open during Ramadan??

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1596273]Thanks Smoothy.

I am placed at ritz and all the seminars are in the same hotel. So travelling looks difficult. I am now searching for some escorts who would come and then leave.[/QUOTE]Hi,

There are 2 Ritz Carltons in Jakarta, they are located close to each other. One at Pacific Place the other one at Mega Kuningan. As you refer to Tempus, I guess you are staying in the one at Mega Kuningan? Mistere used to be a happening place at times, not always, like Bats or CJ's. But since it has been renamed to Tempus, it has been pretty dead, from what I understand, I have not visited in years. The below link may help you with some information:

[URL]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2009/01/mistere-ritz-carlton-mega-kuningan.html[/URL]

Escort services are, generally, of poor reputation in Jakarta. Over-priced and slack service. Before you call-in perhaps you could try and have a drink in one of the bars. Bats or CJ's are close by to where you are staying, so is De Leila. Bar pick-ups in Jakarta are easy and wysiwig. What you see is what you get.

[QUOTE=LoveSex22;1596439]I am Staying in Sari pan pacific hotel now. Could any body help me where is a good location to pick up a young girl, to bring to my room for long time. Or any massage places that will be open in the day time, and what would be the rates? And if they provide BBj?

Is the bars and the massage places will be open during Ramadan??

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]As always, it's all there if you RTFF.

You're not too far from Malioboro. But if you want to bring to your room I suggest MSTAR in Mangga Dua. Overnight 1 juta from closing time to 6 in the AM if you bring to your room. Though some Bahasa would be helpful for you since they speak very limited English.

You could try finding a nice freelancer in CJ's in Hotel Mulia Senayan as well, don't pay more than 1. 0 or 1. 5 juta no matter how much they convince you they take more than that, it's a buyers market.

BBBJ is standard practice in Indo and even BBFS.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1593046]Hi LA Guy. I don't think it's possible to answer your Qs. I stated why I like Maribaya, but I should have / could have added that, after 8 or more years, I don't go to Tulip anymore -- and wander over the Mango or Snow White instead. (Both Nestle and Nong were "friends" of mine at Tulip.) I think Tulip has gone downhill, which makes responding to you even more difficult.

I also think that trying to compare Jakarta shops to Bangkok MPs -- or Manila, or Phnom Penh, etc. -- is also pointless. You play the hand you're dealt, and play in the city where you are. If you're lining up a mongering trip, too many other variables are also in play. Personally, I'd go to Bali as a first choice, with Bangkok tied with Jakarta next. And Manila on the list.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience at Maribaya, but in all cases, YMMV. I have always, every time, had unlimited shots at Maribaya, if that info is any help. TTG.[/QUOTE]My first time in Jakarta visiting only one day. Thanks to your reports I heard about Maribaya. So I take a Taxi around 2 pm today. I got to the hotel and the doorman greeted me and ask me if I want Massage, he took me to Elevator and took me to Fifth floor. He said that Mirabaya is closed because of ramadan. But in Fifth floor 5 rooms had half open doors and about 10 girls greeted me with big smiles. I picked one girl look more like a Spinner. She said she was 30, Years old. She ask 600 for one hour. We took shower together. She was very GFE and spoke english. Great BBBJ, and great sex. I think I could use the third door, but I didn't try.

I would agree that the service was like Mango, and Snow white in Bangkok. Only draw back that most of the girls were around 30 years old.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1596600]As always, it's all there if you RTFF.

You're not too far from Malioboro. But if you want to bring to your room I suggest MSTAR in Mangga Dua. Overnight 1 juta from closing time to 6 in the AM if you bring to your room. Though some Bahasa would be helpful for you since they speak very limited English.

You could try finding a nice freelancer in CJ's in Hotel Mulia Senayan as well, don't pay more than 1. 0 or 1. 5 juta no matter how much they convince you they take more than that, it's a buyers market.

BBBJ is standard practice in Indo and even BBFS.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I am leaving today but I will be back in 3 weeks.

[QUOTE=LoveSex22;1596604]*snip* I would agree that the service was like Mango, and Snow white in Bangkok. Only draw back that most of the girls were around 30 years old.[/QUOTE]Glad you scored, and I didn't know you'd be visiting during the fasting month. Some of the girls do exactly what you describe, rent a few rooms. I had a great experience there last year under similar circumstances -- not during Ramadan, but on another holiday when Maribaya was closed. Thanks for the report, TTG.

TB2010, I tried to reply to your PM request but it appears you have your settings so that you can not receive PMs. Send me a PM when you are ready to receive.

[QUOTE=Towelboy2010;1593610]This is why P4 P is such a great thing. No waiting, no wondering.

My date picked me up on time and we went to dinner at a Japanese restaurant in Shangri-la. I knewright then it would be expensive.

Then she called her friend on the drive to the restaurant and invited her to join us. YIKES.

Dinnwe was very good, but to the tune of 2 million.

I realized pretty quickly I wouldn't get laid tonight so I acted tired and she drove me home.

I haeded to CJ's and found the cuteset little thing and took her home.

After her, I strolled down the street to Top Gun and brought home Elly (previously seen). Best sex yet. As she wants to be my girlfriend.

Last night's date and her sister took me around town today. In their Mercedes. And helped me shop. My investment might still pan out. If not for sex then for other things.

CHEERS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1595799]Tempus disco closed down a few years ago and wasn't a good pick up spot even when it was open. The little bar outside of it is still open for salsa and tango dancing on special nights, but it's not a pick up spot at all. If you are Indian, maybe you should try De Leila in Gatot Sabroto not too far from the Planet Hollywood. I forget the name of the building it's in, but the taxis will know. That bar caters to Indians and Arabs and the girls there reflect the type of girl they normally like.[/QUOTE]The member has already said that he is an Indian. How exactly does Smoothy know what type of girl all Indians and Arabs like? Does the bar, De Leila, refuse to cater for bules?

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1595939]No reason to go for Silver Bird or White Horse unless you crave status above transport.

[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree regarding Silver Birds in particular. My experience (as one who is prone to getting a bit car sick from bad driving) is the Silver Birds have better drivers (on average), and the cars give much more comfortable drives than the others, with the possible exception of White Horse. A well-maintained Mercedes with automatic transmission (as many Silver Birds are) give smoother rides than the manual transmission less comfortable cars used by Blue Bird and Express (some of which are a bit beat up, but to be clear only some). And from what I gather Silver Birds are only about 50 percent more expensive than Blue Birds (once one gets past the initial flag drop rate, which is only slightly more than a dollar USA). All told, Silver Birds are one of the best taxi bargains in the world IMHO.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1597131]I respectfully disagree regarding Silver Birds in particular. My experience (as one who is prone to getting a bit car sick from bad driving) is the Silver Birds have better drivers (on average), and the cars give much more comfortable drives than the others, with the possible exception of White Horse. A well-maintained Mercedes with automatic transmission (as many Silver Birds are) give smoother rides than the manual transmission less comfortable cars used by Blue Bird and Express (some of which are a bit beat up, but to be clear only some). And from what I gather Silver Birds are only about 50 percent more expensive than Blue Birds (once one gets past the initial flag drop rate, which is only slightly more than a dollar USA). All told, Silver Birds are one of the best taxi bargains in the world IMHO.[/QUOTE]Silver Birds are excellent taxis, but in macet they will not get you to your destination one second faster than a Blue Bird and your 50 % is wildly optimistic.

I use Silver Bird from the airport because there is never a queue as opposed to Bluebird. Otherwise I would use Bluebird.

But to each his own.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=IndoIndo;1597093]Does the bar, De Leila, refuse to cater for bules?[/QUOTE]No, but when you pay the admission fee, the girl at the desk will ask you "Are you sure you want to go in here? This place is mainly for Indian and Arab men. ".

Thank you Joel for the information. I will, if I get the time and opportunity to go visit a bar and try my luck.

[QUOTE=JoelGoodsen;1596459]Hi,

There are 2 Ritz Carltons in Jakarta, they are located close to each other. One at Pacific Place the other one at Mega Kuningan. As you refer to Tempus, I guess you are staying in the one at Mega Kuningan? Mistere used to be a happening place at times, not always, like Bats or CJ's. But since it has been renamed to Tempus, it has been pretty dead, from what I understand, I have not visited in years. The below link may help you with some information:

[URL]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2009/01/mistere-ritz-carlton-mega-kuningan.html[/URL]

Escort services are, generally, of poor reputation in Jakarta. Over-priced and slack service. Before you call-in perhaps you could try and have a drink in one of the bars. Bats or CJ's are close by to where you are staying, so is De Leila. Bar pick-ups in Jakarta are easy and wysiwig. What you see is what you get.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1597134]Silver Birds are excellent taxis, but in macet they will not get you to your destination one second faster than a Blue Bird and your 50 % is wildly optimistic.

I use Silver Bird from the airport because there is never a queue as opposed to Bluebird. Otherwise I would use Bluebird.

But to each his own.

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]

I didn't comment on or suggest the Silver Bird taxis got you to your destination faster than the others. They just are much more comfortable vehicles with on average more experienced and better drivers.

There's a few good reasons to use a Silverbird, some covered by others already:

- no line at the airport terminal (whichever terminal you are using).

- More space for bags.

- Better drivers, which often does translate into a faster trip through less hesitant driving, a car that can do 120 kmh+ when possible, and more shortcuts and knowledge of traffic areas to avoid.

- Smoother ride, better seats - you can often spend 1 1/2 hours plus in the taxi.

- Unless you want to wait an eternity at Shangrila for whatever clapped out taxi they can find on the street on a Saturday night, better get a Silverbird. This can also be applicable at Hyatt, Ritz and often Mulia hotels.

The disadvantage of course is the price. Expect 250,000 plus fares from airport to Senayan area.

Many other taxi companies are reliable, and have been mentioned here. No need to stick to Bluebirds anymore. Eight years ago or more even the Bluebirds could be problematic! Luckily a clean up seemed to have occurred, except for the riff raff hanging out at Blok M and who used to be around Stadium.

Something really worth considering is using the Bluebird app (may require a local number to register) to get a taxi dispatched when you are struggling to get one. Works the same pretty much as other taxi apps you will find in other countries.

[QUOTE=IndoIndo;1597093]The member has already said that he is an Indian. How exactly does Smoothy know what type of girl all Indians and Arabs like? Does the bar, De Leila, refuse to cater for bules?[/QUOTE]Smoothy has already answered but I'd also like to add one more thing. The girls know which bars tend to cater to which clientele, so most of the girls also go to the places that have their personal preference too. I did the full tour with JAD many years ago and there was also Tiga Kuda (Three Horses. Although the girls called it Three Horse) which catered similarly, albeit a lot rowdier and perhaps crazier than Deleila. It's an experience, but not my cup of tea. So the girls who go to Deleila and Three Horse (is it still around?) will also generally be looking for Arabs and Indians. Just as the Felatehan bars tend to cater more to bules, CJs and BATS cater to everybody, and the North Jakarta locations tend to cater to Asians. There's no 100% rule but this tendency generally applies. Wow IndoIndo, your first post and you want to pick apart a senior's comments? Hope we can see a constructive FR from you soon.

MD II.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1597338] There's no 100% rule[/QUOTE]For sure. There are never any absolutes in life.

My tastes change daily.

Mongers. I'm not sure if I have landed at the wrong time in Jakarta. Looking at clubs / pick up joints / strip bars which I could visit during my stay here. Until Saturday.

Mass gathering right in from of the hotel I am staying. I am at Indonesia Kempinski. Should I change or is this hotel with girls.

Any help for independents or locations would be helpful. On my PM I have mentioned why I am not taking it. So generic information would be helpful.

Thanks all. Safe mongering.

[QUOTE=Always09;1597745]I am at Indonesia Kempinski. Should I change or is this hotel with girls.[/QUOTE]You could change to the Hotel Melawai. There are more girls there.

Then again, you would be changing from perhaps the best 5 star hotel in the city to an old 2 star hotel.

[QUOTE=Always09;1597745]Mongers. I'm not sure if I have landed at the wrong time in Jakarta. Looking at clubs / pick up joints / strip bars which I could visit during my stay here. Until Saturday.

Mass gathering right in from of the hotel I am staying. I am at Indonesia Kempinski. Should I change or is this hotel with girls.

Any help for independents or locations would be helpful. On my PM I have mentioned why I am not taking it. So generic information would be helpful.

Thanks all. Safe mongering.[/QUOTE]Mulia is the best rated 5 star hotel in Central Jakarta, I believe. You could try that? It has CJ's and although it is getting close to Lebaran, it will have girls available.

Thanks Bro. I am not sure if I want to change the hotel. However are there any places closeby I could go to. There is lot of security at the reception while getting in so not sure how to get girls in. However any suggestions where I could pick up girls not as freely available in the spas or clubs. (hope you understand what I am trying to refer to).

Thanks all and I can definitely help for those travelling to Kl, Singapore or India.


[QUOTE=Smoothy;1598087]You could change to the Hotel Melawai. There are more girls there.

Then again, you would be changing from perhaps the best 5 star hotel in the city to an old 2 star hotel.[/QUOTE]

All walking distance Close by the roundabout are;.

- Mandarin hotel. Mo's bar. Its a freelancer bar, Some diamonds in the rough there, but I have always found at least 1 or 2 good ones. Tuesdays night is the night to be there though, never been other nights so couldn't comment what its like outside of Tues. Ladies night. Worth a sticky-beak.

- Immigrant. High class bar in Plaza Indo, if your reasonably attractive and dress well, then you'll score there, but its a high class bar not a F / L bar, starts rocking post midnight.

- Ditto Skye bar (top of BCA building at Grand Indo) and Cloud (top of the Plaza building at Plaza Indo). These are busier earlier rather than later, compared to immigrant, both have great views of the city from 50+ floors, great for just a few drinks if your looking to kill a few hours or meet someone.

- Social House, very close to you at Kempinski, its a resto / bar Open breakfast to around midnight, but either line up a girl on DIA / Tagged / Twitter to meet you there, or try your luck infiltrating a group of girls having pre / post dinner drinks. Good luck, modern crowd there, and its a great location looking at the roundabout. But definitely not F / L bar.

- There is a bar in the pullman, not sure if any F / L there.

Leasurley stroll away or a short taxi.

- Sarinah mall. Afterhours bar, pool hall. If your comfortable with cheap drinks, hipster young indos, you will definitely score here, but you have to be young at heart to enjoy the atmosphere.

- Jaya pub closed recently, but someone told me on the weekend it had re-opened around the corner, not sure about that, but it was always good for a fun night of drinking. Always meet some F / L there. Maybe anyone else can confirm if its reopened and its location?

Another option, depending how long you are staying, is goto CJ's, spend a night there, talk to many girls and get their contact details, then over the next few days invite them to your place. Both CJ's and BATS is rocking over Ramadan, but they close at 1. 30 am not 3 am.

P.S. IMHO BATS has seriously gone down hill. Forever they have had an expat band, yet last Monday night they had an indo band, and playing 'when the saints go marching in' - furk me it was an embarrassment, now I listen to alot of Indo cover bands, and some are really great, particularly at the little venues like 'beer garden'. But these guys were shocking, when a 5 star bar who charges 120 k for a beer can't afford a western band, its lost the plot. My 2 cents worth.

Imm

[QUOTE=Always09;1598349]Thanks Bro. I am not sure if I want to change the hotel. However are there any places closeby I could go to. There is lot of security at the reception while getting in so not sure how to get girls in. However any suggestions where I could pick up girls not as freely available in the spas or clubs. (hope you understand what I am trying to refer to).

Thanks all and I can definitely help for those travelling to Kl, Singapore or India.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Always09;1598349]Thanks Bro. I am not sure if I want to change the hotel. However are there any places closeby I could go to. There is lot of security at the reception while getting in so not sure how to get girls in. However any suggestions where I could pick up girls not as freely available in the spas or clubs. [/QUOTE]Bro,

You sound Malaysian, but I could be wrong. There's no issue regardless whatever security you see there about bringing girls back with you. It wouldn't bother them if you brought two back with you. You definitely picked the wrong time with Ramadan ongoing and Lebaran (Hari Raya) around the corner. If you're in KL, drop me a PM and maybe we can chat over coffee regarding this hobby of ours.

MD II.

Thanks Bro for the detailed info. I went to Alexis 7th floor. Excellent but rip off. Anyway can't complain. When Johnny takes over.

I'll try some of the ones listed below. Will dress up well and go. This will tell me if I look good or no.

The massage in the hotel is around 35 K. But didn't see any pretty ones and no choosing I believe. Any places that I could go to for a good massage with a Happy ending. But not Maliobor and Alexis. I wld go there for the stripclub.

Any independents you have and could help me out with. Thanks.

All walking distance Close by the roundabout are;.

- Mandarin hotel. Mo's bar. Its a freelancer bar, Some diamonds in the rough there, but I have always found at least 1 or 2 good ones. Tuesdays night is the night to be there though, never been other nights so couldn't comment what its like outside of Tues. Ladies night. Worth a sticky-beak.

- Immigrant. High class bar in Plaza Indo, if your reasonably attractive and dress well, then you'll score there, but its a high class bar not a F / L bar, starts rocking post midnight.

[QUOTE=HardHatMate;1598591]
P.S. IMHO BATS has seriously gone down hill. Forever they have had an expat band, yet last Monday night they had an indo band, and playing 'when the saints go marching in' - furk me it was an embarrassment, now I listen to alot of Indo cover bands, and some are really great, particularly at the little venues like 'beer garden'. But these guys were shocking, when a 5 star bar who charges 120 k for a beer can't afford a western band, its lost the plot. My 2 cents worth.
[/QUOTE]Both BATS and CJS have one night of the week where they have an indo band. I think for one of them it's Monday and for the other it's Sunday. I forget. However, I think it's always been like that. Those expat bands do get a day off. (and you will usually find the BATS band hanging out at CJs on their night off and vice-versa). I actually prefer the indo band at CJs over the current expat band. The old expat band at CJs about 5 years ago was awesome though. The place that always has an indo band is Tiga Puluh now. (if it's still even open). Tiga Puluh used to have some great bands in the past. Real shame that place went to hell after they renovated back in the mid 2000's.

Another place not too far from Kempinski is Pit Stop at the Sari Pan Pacific. They have some really good bands there on occasion. I wouldn't say it's a great pick up spot, but you never know. Zen karaoke is just across the street from Sari Pan Hotel, but I'm guessing that is closed for Ramadhan.

Arrghh, thanks Smoothy. That explains it.

Yes it was a Tuesday night, they might have mixed up the days off due to the election.

And yes a good point, there are some awesome Indo cover bands, just wish there was more talented original Indo bands around.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1598697]Both BATS and CJS have one night of the week where they have an indo band. I think for one of them it's Monday and for the other it's Sunday. I forget. However, I think it's always been like that. Those expat bands do get a day off. (and you will usually find the BATS band hanging out at CJs on their night off and vice-versa). I actually prefer the indo band at CJs over the current expat band. The old expat band at CJs about 5 years ago was awesome though. The place that always has an indo band is Tiga Puluh now. (if it's still even open). Tiga Puluh used to have some great bands in the past. Real shame that place went to hell after they renovated back in the mid 2000's.

Another place not too far from Kempinski is Pit Stop at the Sari Pan Pacific. They have some really good bands there on occasion. I wouldn't say it's a great pick up spot, but you never know. Zen karaoke is just across the street from Sari Pan Hotel, but I'm guessing that is closed for Ramadhan.[/QUOTE]

Hey Hard Hat, Smoothy & Joel,

Thank you all for the quick help much appreciated. And Master. Well I am not Malaysian but I do travel to Kl often. Will let you know when I am there next time.

My two piece so far on Jakarta. Well you guys are experienced more so please feel free to add / delete any comments I have.

For people looking short time fun. Malioboro / Alexis. Girls are lovely there but a bit expensive. Malioboro is < the Alexis. 7th floor.

Malioboro does not have jacuzzi before the FS like Alexis. You can see detailed report on both these clubs in Jakarta night life.

Both have s'tease. If you love boobs show. Girls differentiated by local and other countries and rate differ.

Hard Hat, went to Shangrila. Found it more like Orchad tower clubs in Singapore. If you know what I mean. Easy pick ups don't need to do anything extra special. Just the cash.

I was kind of getting tired and suddenly a girl speaking good English came and took me over. She has good deep dimples. Guys if you know her please let me know any feedback. I didn't get her to the hotel but do have her number so maybe will pick her up tom. Goes by the name maria.

Now I have two nights in Jakarta and am not sure how to spend it. I was looking for pubs where working ladies looking for fun come in. Not the ones looking for money. Difficult but I have picked some in other countries. Some have even paid for my taxi.

Last question, most of the girls I have met here kindda pour in their story of not having money because their someone was caught in corruption. Some have difficulties and need to sell phones. Looks like a sales pitch here. Again guys who have been here can help.

Well I do not write so much usually but thought I am getting help so let's help others too.

Taxi. Use the bluebird. You can ask them for bills everytime. Not sure about the rest. Silver bird is expensive.

Thanks again guys. Will keep you posted.

I have read about a few people around ISG losing their DIA accounts. Happened to me too, some kind of automatic filter matches certain keywords and suddenly your account is shut down.

Tagged has been a bit hit and miss for me, seems to be a bit of a numbers game as you have to wade through a lot of profiles, but recently turned up a real gem. A late 30's divorcee who claimed to have not had sex in 5 years. At first I was not sure if I should believe her, but after spending a couple of days with her I do. Great bjj skills (part of why I was skeptical about her story) tightest pussy I have come across in a long time. Really had to take it slow before penetration, but eventually she went off like a frog in a sock.

After we collapsed on the bed she started giving a great massage as well. Not a single rupiah changed hands, no sad story about needing money for (insert usual BS here) just a horny woman who really enjoys shagging me senseless.

I love this country. No I won't share her details yet. If she starts to get clingy I will cut her lose.

[QUOTE=Always09;1598933]Hey Hard Hat, Smoothy & Joel,

Thank you all for the quick help much appreciated. And Master. Well I am not Malaysian but I do travel to Kl often. Will let you know when I am there next time.

My two piece so far on Jakarta. Well you guys are experienced more so please feel free to add / delete any comments I have.

For people looking short time fun. Malioboro / Alexis. Girls are lovely there but a bit expensive. Malioboro is < the Alexis. 7th floor.

Malioboro does not have jacuzzi before the FS like Alexis. You can see detailed report on both these clubs in Jakarta night life.

Both have s'tease. If you love boobs show. Girls differentiated by local and other countries and rate differ.

Hard Hat, went to Shangrila. Found it more like Orchad tower clubs in Singapore. If you know what I mean. Easy pick ups don't need to do anything extra special. Just the cash...[/QUOTE]Not sure if this is the same Maria who hangs around Top Gun. Refer pg 53 of photo gallery Dars Veider has some photos 4/02/10. 1602.

If it is her she is champ but keep her off the tequila as she gets a little crazy. If it isn't her go to Top Gun post 2300 and she should be there just ask.

Have fun,

Scotsdale

[QUOTE=Always09;1598933]
Last question, most of the girls I have met here kindda pour in their story of not having money because their someone was caught in corruption. Some have difficulties and need to sell phones. Looks like a sales pitch here. Again guys who have been here can help.[/QUOTE]I'm not surprised to read that all the girls have fake sob stories and need some quick money right now. It's not just them, it's pretty much every adult Muslim you'll meet.

The reason for this is that the Eid-al-Fitr holiday (known in Indonesia as Lebaran) that occurs at the end of Ramadan is next week (begins July 28th or 29th and will last for a few days) and the girls are all under enormous financial pressure to get money to buy gifts for their families / relatives / neighbors / co-workers etc. - food, new clothing, cash gifts and "zakat" offerings to the local mosque, beggars and poor children. It's somewhat the Muslim equivalent of Christmas, although that's a simplistic explanation, it's actually more than that.

That's why most of the MPs and spas are closed now, not just for moral reasons, but so the girls can travel back to their villages for Lebaran. Estimates are that over 2 million Jakarta residents will travel back to their villages for 7-10 days, starting today / tomorrow.

A positive side effect of this is that there will be very little traffic on the roads for a few days, and the air quality will dramatically and noticeably improve.

A negative side effect of this is that the number of incidents of robberies, house break-ins, pick-pocketing, purse snatching and the like shoots up dramatically during the last two weeks of the fasting month of Ramadan. And girls will be more aggressive for tips and potentially may try to steal cash from your wallet or hotel room. So be careful!

Hello friends,

I will be travelling Jakarta in next March. I will be staying in Jalan Jaksa since I am budget backpacker. After reading lot of posts here want to have below experience in Jakarta.

1. Threesome.

2. Body to Body massage at Kartika.

I can see from reports that Classic is the place where I can get threesome. So below are my questions.

*Since I stay in Jalan Jaksa can I travel to these places through bus if so what is the cost.

*Is kartika and Classic are clean? I don't want any infections so any tips from seniors would be appreciated.

*Since I am travelling in off season (March) would like to know the cost associated with Body to Body massage at Kartika and Threesome at Classic.

*My itinerary also includes Yogyakarta and I have less information about mongering here. Appreciate your help for mongering in Yogyakarta.

[QUOTE=Always09;1598933]Hey Hard Hat, Smoothy & Joel,

Thank you all for the quick help much appreciated. And Master. Well I am not Malaysian but I do travel to Kl often. Will let you know when I am there next time.

My two piece so far on Jakarta. Well you guys are experienced more so please feel free to add / delete any comments I have.

For people looking short time fun. Malioboro / Alexis. Girls are lovely there but a bit expensive. Malioboro is < the Alexis. 7th floor.

Malioboro does not have jacuzzi before the FS like Alexis. You can see detailed report on both these clubs in Jakarta night life.

Both have s'tease. If you love boobs show. Girls differentiated by local and other countries and rate differ.

Hard Hat, went to Shangrila. Found it more like Orchad tower clubs in Singapore. If you know what I mean. Easy pick ups don't need to do anything extra special. Just the cash..[/QUOTE]Not sure if this is the same Maria who frequents Top Gun. Check photo section of Dars Veider 4/02/10.

She usually gets there 2300 and sometimes sings with a local band.

Guys,

I met a girl in BATS. Maria. Kindda speaks good English and is potraying herself to be from an affluent family. However looking at the girls yesterday most in BATS would come if you pay. She is ready to come to the hotel and looks like she has done this before. However no prices quoted yet. So any idea what is the usual damage in these cases. I may go to CJ's or BATS again today. Definitely will find some girls there.

Thanks all.

[QUOTE=Omerta;1599095]Hello friends,

I will be travelling Jakarta in next March. I will be staying in Jalan Jaksa since I am budget backpacker. After reading lot of posts here want to have below experience in Jakarta.

1. Threesome.

2. Body to Body massage at Kartika.

I can see from reports that Classic is the place where I can get threesome. So below are my questions.

*Since I stay in Jalan Jaksa can I travel to these places through bus if so what is the cost.

*Is kartika and Classic are clean? I don't want any infections so any tips from seniors would be appreciated.

*Since I am travelling in off season (March) would like to know the cost associated with Body to Body massage at Kartika and Threesome at Classic.

*My itinerary also includes Yogyakarta and I have less information about mongering here. Appreciate your help for mongering in Yogyakarta.[/QUOTE](1) You can travel to Kartika using the transjakarta bus. You would have to walk maybe ten minutes to get the bus, and perhaps three to five minutes from the bus to Kartika. Busfare today is about thirty cents US. You probably could also get to Classic using the transjakarta bus but it would require a transfer. Taxis to these places would run in the range of $2 USA.

(2) If you don't want any infections, use a condom. If you want to be particularly cautious, you could use one during the blow job phase as well. If by infections you mean to also include sore throats, etc. , then you should avoid kissing and DATY.

(3) Off season has nothing to do with pricing at these places. But it is impossible to predict inflation and currency fluctuations between now and March. However, think around $35 to $60 US per session for what you are looking for (towards the lower end for Kartika, and the higher end for a threesome at Classic), including a tip. Keep in mind the service at Classic tends to be not so great, and threesomes there can (from what I have read, not from experience) be a particular disappointment in this regard.

(4) Yogyakarta is a better tourist destination than monger destination. For relatively cheap sex, there are some elaborate alleyways near the train station. If you can get the local price, it would be around $10 to $15 per pop, but the girls often charge foreigners at least double that. Sometimes you can with persistence get them to lower the foreigner price, but there is probably a limit to this. There also is a brothel or two charging around $30 to $40 US, but the Jakarta brothels in that price range are much better.

[QUOTE=Omerta;1599095]Hello friends,

I will be travelling Jakarta in next March. I will be staying in Jalan Jaksa since I am budget backpacker. After reading lot of posts here want to have below experience in Jakarta.

1. Threesome.

2. Body to Body massage at Kartika.

I can see from reports that Classic is the place where I can get threesome. So below are my questions.

*Since I stay in Jalan Jaksa can I travel to these places through bus if so what is the cost.

*Is Kartika and Classic are clean? I don't want any infections so any tips from seniors would be appreciated.

*Since I am travelling in off season (March) would like to know the cost associated with Body to Body massage at Kartika and Threesome at Classic.

*My itinerary also includes Yogyakarta and I have less information about mongering here. Appreciate your help for mongering in Yogyakarta.[/QUOTE]I just wanted to add a few notes to LA Guy 5's excellent answer:

- I've had great threesomes at both Kartika and Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai, near Blok M and Pasar Raya, the southern terminus of TransJakarta Line #1), and yes, the threesomes at Classic may be disappointing.

- For a threesome, IMHO it's always best to pick one girl and then let her pick the second girl. If you choose both girls on your own, there's a risk that the two girls won't get along (they may even hate each other) and the service will suffer accordingly. If you want the girls to interact with each other, make sure to specify that ahead of time, although there's no guarantee that some of them will do anything more than lick each other's tits a bit. Depends on the girl.

- Kartika is maybe a 1-minute walk from the bus stop and a one-way ticket is less than US $1. By the way, there's a great bakery on Jalan Hayam Wuruk at the corner of the alley where Kartika, Berlian and Royal Mas are located, I think the name is Suisse?

- I've visited Kartika at least 50 times over the last ten years (no exaggeration!) and have never had any problems with infections. I've always used a condom but have never had any problems with BBBJ, kissing and even DATY. The girls there carry Listerine in their purses and go out of their way to stay clean. This is also true of Maribaya Spa, where I've been at least 15-20 times. Cleanliness is mainly an issue with the low-end scene, such as Kali Jodo and the streetwalkers near the train stations, which I'd advise you to stay away from. You may also find some lower-level streetwalkers on Jalan Jaksa itself, although the last time I tried that was in 1992.

- Every man should experience a body-to-body massage at Kartika at least once in their life, preferably as a threesome if you can afford it. I've posted a map and a photo of Kartika below.

- The only true 'off season' is during the fasting month of Ramadan, when Kartika will be closed. It's Ramadan right now, and next year Ramadan will be from mid-June to mid-July, not March.

- Yogyakarta is one of the more problematic places for mongering in Indonesia if you are a tourist who doesn't speak Bahasa, but there are a few low-end MPs and streetwalkers, plus you should be able to pick up girls in the malls. Some taxi drivers might take you to college dorms to meet girls during early / mid-evening hours. There's some info about Yogya here on ISG in the Other Areas section although most of it is several years old.

I've posted two old photos below about Yogya, one is an alleyway where there are lots of working girls during the evening hours (I had a nice threesome here in a room that was nothing more than a shack with no real bathroom, I had to wash out of a bucket but the girls made it worth it), the other is the outside of "Corona" where you can meet girls and then take them back to your hotel (no incall sessions here). The alleyway is the photo with the guy and the bike, this alleyway is one block away on the same street as Corona (the photo with the white truck in it)

Look forward to your trip reports!

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1599764]
- Every man should experience a body-to-body massage at Kartika at least once in their life, preferably as a threesome if you can afford it. I've posted a map and a photo of Kartika below.[/QUOTE]Threesomes there are good fun. I still don't understand how they even do that sandwich move they do, but they do it well. The thing about Kartika though is there are lots of ugly women there, so you may have to wait for some better looking ones to finish with other guys before you go up.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1599764]I just wanted to add a few notes to LA Guy 5's excellent answer:

- I've had great threesomes at both Kartika and Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai, near Blok M and Pasar Raya, the southern terminus of TransJakarta Line #1), and yes, the threesomes at Classic may be disappointing.

- For a threesome, IMHO it's always best to pick one girl and then let her pick the second girl. If you choose both girls on your own, there's a risk that the two girls won't get along (they may even hate each other) and the service will suffer accordingly. If you want the girls to interact with each other, make sure to specify that ahead of time, although there's no guarantee that some of them will do anything more than lick each other's tits a bit. Depends on the girl.

- Kartika is maybe a 1-minute walk from the bus stop and a one-way ticket is less than US $1. By the way, there's a great bakery on Jalan Hayam Wuruk at the corner of the alley where Kartika, Berlian and Royal Mas are located, I think the name is Suisse?

- I've visited Kartika at least 50 times over the last ten years (no exaggeration!) and have never had any problems with infections. I've always used a condom but have never had any problems with BBBJ, kissing and even DATY. The girls there carry Listerine in their purses and go out of their way to stay clean. This is also true of Maribaya Spa, where I've been at least 15-20 times. Cleanliness is mainly an issue with the low-end scene, such as Kali Jodo and the streetwalkers near the train stations, which I'd advise you to stay away from. You may also find some lower-level streetwalkers on Jalan Jaksa itself, although the last time I tried that was in 1992...[/QUOTE]Hello LA Guy 5 and Mighty Spearsman,

Thanks for the great info.

After reading your comments thinking to drop off Classic and try two sessions may be threesome in Kartika / Maribaya / Berlian. So what would be the cost for 3 some in these spa's.

I agree with Smoothy on this.

The women in Kartika are really too ugly to consider paying for them even if people say they have some skills.

Went there once stayed 5 mn and left. No thanks.

And people here say in Classic and Travel girls are more beautiful but they act like dead fish specially on a 3 some.

So is there any venue where girls are young beautiful and more than willing? Or this doesn't exist in Jakarta?

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1600042]I agree with Smoothy on this.

The women in Kartika are really too ugly to consider paying for them even if people say they have some skills.

Went there once stayed 5 mn and left. No thanks.

And people here say in Classic and Travel girls are more beautiful but they act like dead fish specially on a 3 some.

So is there any venue where girls are young beautiful and more than willing? Or this doesn't exist in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]
If you're into on the spot sex you can consider D's Place in Jalan Felatehan (Blok M). The sexy dancers are available to accompany you to the VIP room where they will gladly undress and give you a BBBJ with CIM, of course for a certain payment. For an additional negotiable amount they are also willing to provide additional services like FS. You must be willing do enjoy their services in fairly full view of the other visitors of the VIP room.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1600042]*snip *

And people here say in Classic and Travel girls are more beautiful but they act like dead fish specially on a 3 some.
So is there any venue where girls are young beautiful and more than willing? Or this doesn't exist in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]I think you're not reading the comments in the context they were written. Yes, there are venues where girls are young and beautiful and more than willing -- Alexis comes to mind right away. But you have to have deep pockets for a visit -- I don't normally talk about costs and prices, but Alexis will set you back a few million IDR for a one-on-one. Not for the budget traveler. You can find many PYTs in any of the pick-up spots listed in this forum and visit a hotel of your choice. On-the-premises 3-somes, not quite as easy. TTG.

I'm a big fan of threesomes. There are 3 kinds of threesome for my money.

1. A 'relay' where they're not really into it, and one plays with her hp disinterestedly and then takes over while the other does the same. A complete waste of time.

2. They'll play with you together but not into each other apart from a bit of fakery and tit fondling. That can be fine if that's what you want.

3. Full on fun with the lesbian action going on at the same time and everyone involved simultaneously. The best of the lot for my money, but unfortunately the hardest to find.

Most of the girls in the Blok and at BATS will do threesomes. Best way to go about it is to ask your chosen girlin the bar 'suka lesbi atau tidak?' If she says yes ask her to bring a friend, and off you go. As always, make sure you agree price per girl (otherwise you'll think it was for the 2 of them and they'll carry on about that being the price each) and whether it's short time (they're usual preference) or overnight.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1600042]I agree with Smoothy on this.

The women in Kartika are really too ugly to consider paying for them even if people say they have some skills.

Went there once stayed 5 mn and left. No thanks.

And people here say in Classic and Travel girls are more beautiful but they act like dead fish specially on a 3 some.

So is there any venue where girls are young beautiful and more than willing? Or this doesn't exist in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]To Prison break.

I agree Kartika is going down hill was there a few month ago girl is very average for 500 k is too much, the girl there are much better service 10 yr ago offer AR and long BBBJ but the last 2 girl I pick there just offer average FS better value to go to hotel travel and Classic.

I have good experience before on threesome at Classic Terminal but the last few yr the girl attuide change very demanding on tipping ,the last time I was there I offer to tip the girl 75k ea tip for better service but it is still very average not as good as few yr ago .



Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1599832]Threesomes there are good fun. I still don't understand how they even do that sandwich move they do, but they do it well. The thing about Kartika though is there are lots of ugly women there, so you may have to wait for some better looking ones to finish with other guys before you go up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1600042]I agree with Smoothy on this.

The women in Kartika are really too ugly to consider paying for them even if people say they have some skills.

Went there once stayed 5 mn and left. No thanks.

And people here say in Classic and Travel girls are more beautiful but they act like dead fish specially on a 3 some.

So is there any venue where girls are young beautiful and more than willing? Or this doesn't exist in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]I believe that Smoothy is more correct than Prison Break. Yes, there are a lot of ugly women at Kartika (same with Berlian and many other MPs and spas) but there are at least 5 or 6 good looking women working each of the two shifts (days and evenings), although they'll probably all be 21 and over.

Depending on when you show up, most of the 6 may be available, or all 6 may be busy upstairs in sessions, so you'll just have to wait. Luckily, there's a bar there, and you may even get a kick out of sitting and practicing your Bahasa with some of the girls while you're waiting.

Thanks to all members in this thread for posting so much information. Special thanks to AR, WC, Karel, Smoothy, KiJang, Freque for helping me out with PM's. Counting the days to land in Jakarta now. Had a long lating fantasy of fucking an asian chick.

Change of plans though, instead of the ritz I will now be put up in Le meridien. Not quite sure if I will venture to blok M, but will definitely try the club in the basement, and also Maribaya.

Have heard different views of Fortune Spa near my hotel, wondering if it would be worth spending there.

Also contacted some agencies on Jakarta backpages and they sent me rates ranging from 2. 35 mill (4 hrs) to 5 (1 day). The last thing I want to do is to pay exorbitant prices. The chicks though look fucking classy.

Any advice / suggestions would be grateful.

Will defintely post an FR when back home.

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1601992]
Change of plans though, instead of the ritz I will now be put up in Le meridien.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. The Ritz is one of the best hotels in the city. Le Meridien is a big drop off in quality. Less than 1/2 the price though, so your company will save money.

I recommend you take a taxi from your hotel to Malioboro (it's right next to Gajah Mada plaza). Malioboro is way better than Maribaya or Fortune.

I know the quality is really down than Ritz. But then I am going to spend the whole day in the conference in Ritz and then sleep off at the hotel. Will go for the Malioboro then. Have read that it is better than Maribaya. Any pointers with what are the current prices.

Thanks again

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1602036]Sorry to hear that. The Ritz is one of the best hotels in the city. Le Meridien is a big drop off in quality. Less than 1/2 the price though, so your company will save money.

I recommend you take a taxi from your hotel to Malioboro (it's right next to Gajah Mada plaza). Malioboro is way better than Maribaya or Fortune.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1601992]Thanks to all members in this thread for posting so much information. Special thanks to AR, WC, Karel, Smoothy, KiJang, Freque for helping me out with PM's. Counting the days to land in Jakarta now. Had a long lasting fantasy of fucking an Asian chick.

Change of plans though, instead of the Ritz I will now be put up in Le Meridien. Not quite sure if I will venture to Blok M, but will definitely try the club in the basement, and also Maribaya.

Have heard different views of Fortune Spa near my hotel, wondering if it would be worth spending there.

Also contacted some agencies on Jakarta backpages and they sent me rates ranging from 2. 35 mill (4 hrs) to 5 (1 day). The last thing I want to do is to pay exorbitant prices. The chicks though look fucking classy.

Any advice / suggestions would be grateful.

Will definitely post an FR when back home.[/QUOTE]One obvious benefit to Fortune Spa is that it is directly across the street from Le Meridien, saving you an hour or more (round trip) in a taxi to go almost anywhere else.

I found Fortune to be very hit-or-miss, some of the girls were great, others a waste of time. One tip: when you first go in, you are asked what kind of room you want. My experience is that you are better off paying for the nicest room, and you are more likely to get FS if you do so. Don't be afraid to ask the counter person about the services that you are looking for with a girl, they will not be offended and will guide you accordingly, so don't be shy.

The Tiga Puluh bar in the basement of Le Meridien is also hit-or-miss. Good luck!

Thanks Mighty.

[QUOTE=HardHatMate;1593105]Forgot to mention, once you find some;.

Jam = hour.

Crot or croot = pop or cum.

1 jt or 1 juta= 1 million rupiah.

700 rb = 700,000 rupiah.

Pijat = massage.

Th or tahun = age.

Kamar = room.

That should get you started.[/QUOTE]How does twitter work for getting girls? How do you know they are legit? All ask for deposit? How do I know they will come? I see some show pics of bank transfer receipts. What do these mean. I have an Indo bank account and can make a transfer, but I do not want to get scammed. Please help. I can speak some Indo.

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1601992]Thanks to all members in this thread for posting so much information. Special thanks to AR, WC, Karel, Smoothy, KiJang, Freque for helping me out with PM's. Counting the days to land in Jakarta now. Had a long lating fantasy of fucking an asian chick.

Change of plans though, instead of the ritz I will now be put up in Le meridien. Not quite sure if I will venture to blok M, but will definitely try the club in the basement, and also Maribaya.

Have heard different views of Fortune Spa near my hotel, wondering if it would be worth spending there.

Also contacted some agencies on Jakarta backpages and they sent me rates ranging from 2. 35 mill (4 hrs) to 5 (1 day). The last thing I want to do is to pay exorbitant prices. The chicks though look fucking classy.

Any advice / suggestions would be grateful.

Will defintely post an FR when back home.[/QUOTE]To UTD1980.

I been to Fortune once a few yr back girl there are good service is ok are price is high than Delta at harmoni, there are so many massage place in Kota area from low end to high end just take a taxi only about 30 min ride.

Fast eddie 48.

Firstly thanks to all mongers who helped to enjoy Jakarta.

My experience. Malioboro and Alexis. Quite Similar in the type of services offered. Locker tag and everything gets charged to it. Well if you want to enjoy some boobs show these are the places.

Myself picked up M from BATS. Was really hot in bed. Damage around $150 USD including drinks and pocket money.

Suggestion. Look presentable and go to the expats clubs, you should be able to pick up somebody if you have the $$.

I didn't have time to to rest of the joints. Maybe next visit.

Jakarta. I'll be back.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1602687]To UTD1980.

I been to Fortune once a few yr back girl there are good service is ok are price is high than Delta at harmoni, there are so many massage place in Kota area from low end to high end just take a taxi only about 30 min ride.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]For someone who is staying at Le Meridien for their first time in Jakarta, it makes sense to go to Fortune right across the street for a massage rather than go way up to Kota when you don't know the area. I think Malioboro is pretty easy to find and to get a taxi back to your hotel, but some of those other places are not easy to find or to get a taxi home from all the time.

Thanks Eddie and Smoothy for your suggestions. I will be trying out fortune spa for sure and also one independent referred by a friend. I am contemplating of going to malioboro instead ad of Maribaya, but lets see what happens. Will be reaching on 6th and will be free from some inaugral function work after 8 pm. Thinking of indie on that day and later malioboro may be.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1603047]For someone who is staying at Le Meridien for their first time in Jakarta, it makes sense to go to Fortune right across the street for a massage rather than go way up to Kota when you don't know the area. I think Malioboro is pretty easy to find and to get a taxi back to your hotel, but some of those other places are not easy to find or to get a taxi home from all the time.[/QUOTE].

BATS at Shangri-La was quiet last night. Enough women (I counted 24) and few men. Some of the girls were pretty good looking although I did not approach any. The local band was rubbish. Just as I was thinking of leaving an older woman came to me and introduced me to a younger one in tow (5 out of 10 and average english). I made small conversation for a while, did not ask for or make an offer, and left.

CJ's at Mulia was equally quiet. The band was better. Spent some time dancing with a tight little 6/10 with zero english. She was clingy and followed me all the way to the outside lobby, and almost into the taxi. I said goodbye, left her there and went to Blok M.

Top gun was closing as I entered. A MILF by the name of Yanti attached herself to me. She was pleasant. I finished my drink and walked across to Dees Place (or was it My Bar, one of them was open and the other closed). This was open but deserted. Decided to have a beer and leave. Yanti came over and started telling me stories while groping me simultaneously.

She was reluctant to make an opening bid and insisted that I open the bargaining. I started at 10 million and this had her in fits. I countered with 20 million. Realized she's not getting anywhere with me on the negotiation front and responded with 1 million LT. The offer I made was 700k, and no taxi money, no tip and no more negations. She tried her luck again by saying that Bogor was far away, and she needed 300k for the commute. I advised her to take the train from Gambir station for 15k.

I took her back to the hotel. She was a bit flabby and loose, but great in bed. Knew how to use her mouth and tongue in all the right places. It took me a long time to cum doing her in a couple of positions. Slept till 8 am and did it again. Tried to get her to leave (paid her what was due, of course). But she was content just hanging around on the couch. At around 10 am she finally got my hint and left.

Not a bad night. But it has gotten me craving for some young tight pseudo-high end type pussy.

Found her on AFF.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1603047]For someone who is staying at Le Meridien for their first time in Jakarta, it makes sense to go to Fortune right across the street for a massage rather than go way up to Kota when you don't know the area. I think Malioboro is pretty easy to find and to get a taxi back to your hotel, but some of those other places are not easy to find or to get a taxi home from all the time.[/QUOTE]To Smoothy.

My first business trip to Jarkata back in 2000 I was staying at Mecure in Kota, yes there are many massage place around the area and I just take the Taxi everywhere in Jarkata most taxi driver know where is the actions I like to explore different area of the city.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1603947]To Smoothy.

My first business trip to Jarkata back in 2000 I was staying at Mecure in Kota, yes there are many massage place around the area and I just take the Taxi everywhere in Jarkata most taxi driver know where is the actions I like to explore different area of the city.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Aren't you Malaysian? If you speak bahasa, you can travel anywhere you want with no problems.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1604004]Aren't you Malaysian? If you speak bahasa, you can travel anywhere you want with no problems.[/QUOTE]To smoothy.

No I am Chinese live in the US just travel to Asia and S America a lot for business go to Jarkata twice a yr just speak a little bahasa.



Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1604004]Aren't you Malaysian? If you speak bahasa, you can travel anywhere you want with no problems.[/QUOTE]The information Fast Eddie is always posting here, can be easily found elsewhere on the web. If that helps others, fine, but I doubt he's genuine.

i did a repeat of the previous night. bats followed by cj's. six significant experiences to note would be -

1 - met a tall mixed girl at cj's who told me she was half indonesian and half pakistani. studied at the london school of business communication, or something. was very polished and nice to talk to. almost 6 feet tall with her heels. looked indian. said she liked me and hence would drop her initial offer of 2 million for an hour to 1. 5 million for 2 hours.

2 - i latched on to a light skinned tall indonesian girl linda and took her back for a more reasonable price than number 1 above.

3 - taxi got pulled over by police on passing the selamat datang monument, roundabout (plaza indonesia). was threatened with being booked for not having passport or copy of it on my person, and had to pay a bribe to get out of this situation. more on this later when i get time to put down the words.

4 - if i had taken up offer number 1 above, and left cj's earlier, chances are i would not have found myself in situation number 3.

5 - linda more than made up for the bad experience once we got back to the room.

6 - one really wasted guy peed his pants sitting at the bar in bats! only a couple of patrons and the floor mopping dude observed this. this guy is well known to the bar staff and was being an absolute nuisance to the girls with his pawing.

[QUOTE=KiJang;1604142]

3 - Taxi got pulled over by police on passing the Selamat Datang monument, roundabout (Plaza Indonesia). Was threatened with being booked for not having passport or copy of it on my person, and had to pay a bribe to get out of this situation. More on this later when I get time to put down the words.[/QUOTE]That's their standard scam. That happens fairly frequently, especially close to and during Ramadan. If you play dumb, you can get out of it sometimes. But most times I pay the bribe and head on my way.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1604161]That's their standard scam. That happens fairly frequently, especially close to and during Ramadan. If you play dumb, you can get out of it sometimes. But most times I pay the bribe and head on my way.[/QUOTE]How much do you pay? I was trying to get away with 300, but they extracted 500 out of me.

[QUOTE=KiJang;1604176]How much do you pay? I was trying to get away with 300, but they extracted 500 out of me.[/QUOTE]Those checkpoints used to be a lot worse years ago but now they've gone down a bit with the whole anti-corruption theme.

If they smell the money, they'll get greedy. One way they'll know is if they check through your wallet, which is what they usually do.

The way it works is 50 for each officer. If they ask for more, just tell them it's all you have and show your empty wallet. They'll let you go. Of course, if you give them nothing and it's not a busy night, they may detain you.

[QUOTE=KiJang;1604142]1 - Met a tall mixed girl at CJ's who told me she was half Indonesian and half Pakistani. Studied at the london school of business communication, or something. Was very polished and nice to talk to. Almost 6 feet tall with her heels. Looked Indian. Said she liked me and hence would drop her initial offer of 2 Million for an hour to 1. 5 million for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Fortunately you didn't miss much by not taking her.

You're talking about that busty one, right? With the dark skin stationed next to the bar on entrance? Yes, she told me about being a student in that same school.

She said the same thing too, she "liked" me and that the price would be 1.5 "just for me" (short time). So I took her to my place. She wouldn't change to any other position except missionary. Only gave a crappy 5 minute blowjob with a condom (wouldn't do without, which is unheard of in this city). Needless to say, I only gave her 300 and kicked her out even as she threatened she'll call the cops on me, what a naïve little girl.

HI Guys.

Heading off to Jakarta 2 nite. I asked my hotel, le meridien what's their policy for overnight guests (ofcourse with a fake I'd), and they have not replied yet. Since the room is going to be paid by company, I do not want them to have a bill reflecting double occupancy.

Any help would be appreciated.

Have only 3 evenings that too with an aussie colleague (who is not into this stuff) and so much to do, malioboro and maribaya. Fortune is too tempting and easy but at the sae time as per seniors its a hit and miss but still will be going for the same with the biggest room.

Lets see how it goes.

Again a big thanks to all.

UTD.

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1604214]HI Guys.

Heading off to Jakarta 2 nite. I asked my hotel, le meridien what's their policy for overnight guests (ofcourse with a fake I'd), and they have not replied yet. Since the room is going to be paid by company, I do not want them to have a bill reflecting double occupancy.

Any help would be appreciated.


UTD.[/QUOTE]Hotel bills do NOT show single or double occupancy.

Le Meridien definitely doesn't have two prices, it has one price per room not for occupants. I've stayed there many times.

Thanks freebie

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1604221]Hotel bills do NOT show single or double occupancy.

Le Meridien definitely doesn't have two prices, it has one price per room not for occupants. I've stayed there many times.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1604205]Those checkpoints used to be a lot worse years ago but now they've gone down a bit with the whole anti-corruption theme.

If they smell the money, they'll get greedy. One way they'll know is if they check through your wallet, which is what they usually do.

The way it works is 50 for each officer. If they ask for more, just tell them it's all you have and show your empty wallet. They'll let you go. Of course, if you give them nothing and it's not a busy night, they may detain you.[/QUOTE]This is perfect advice. In that situation, as soon the police stop the taxi, I switch most of the money out of my wallet just in case. However, I've never been pulled over with a high priced CJs hooker in the car with me. I've always been alone when it happened. They are going to assume you have the money to pay that girl, so you are in a worse situation than being alone. 500 k is too much though even with that girl in the car. I would think 200 k should be the max. I've normally given them 50 k or 100 k. There was one time though where there were 4 police officers and mine was the only car around. I gave them 200 k that night (50 k for each guy as egymonger said). Then there are other times when I played dumb long enough that they just let me go (I never speak a word of bahasa to them and act like I don't understand), but that is when they are stopping many cars and have plenty of other choices to scam.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1604206]Fortunately you didn't miss much by not taking her.

You're talking about that busty one, right? With the dark skin stationed next to the bar on entrance? Yes, she told me about being a student in that same school.

She said the same thing too, she "liked" me and that the price would be 1.5 "just for me" (short time). So I took her to my place. She wouldn't change to any other position except missionary. Only gave a crappy 5 minute blowjob with a condom (wouldn't do without, which is unheard of in this city). Needless to say, I only gave her 300 and kicked her out even as she threatened she'll call the cops on me, what a nave little girl.[/QUOTE]Awesome. If every guy would do the same to those girls, service would improve and prices would come down.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1604161]That's their standard scam. That happens fairly frequently, especially close to and during Ramadan. If you play dumb, you can get out of it sometimes. But most times I pay the bribe and head on my way.[/QUOTE]That's why I always carry a copy of my passport with me. I don't like walking around with the real thing. Even for local flights a copy is sufficient ID.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1604221]Hotel bills do NOT show single or double occupancy.

Le Meridien definitely doesn't have two prices, it has one price per room not for occupants. I've stayed there many times.[/QUOTE]I have never seen a hotel charge extra for a second occupant. Yesterday I booked a room in the Atlet (for later use) and the form said "1 person, max. Occupancy 2".

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=JoelGoodsen;1604108]The information Fast Eddie is always posting here, can be easily found elsewhere on the web. If that helps others, fine, but I doubt he's genuine.[/QUOTE]I have long ago decided that this guy is a one-handed typist who has never left the safety of his keyboard. Living in America and using such hopeless grammar? He's simply copy-pasting information from other people's posts.

This will undoubtably result in a flood of abuse from our friend <grin> .

[QUOTE=Utd1980;1604214]HI Guys.

Heading off to Jakarta 2 nite. I asked my hotel, le meridien what's their policy for overnight guests (ofcourse with a fake I'd), and they have not replied yet. Since the room is going to be paid by company, I do not want them to have a bill reflecting double occupancy.

Any help would be appreciated.

Have only 3 evenings that too with an aussie colleague (who is not into this stuff) and so much to do, malioboro and maribaya. Fortune is too tempting and easy but at the sae time as per seniors its a hit and miss but still will be going for the same with the biggest room.

Lets see how it goes.

Again a big thanks to all.

UTD.[/QUOTE]Don't fully understand your post. I have had multiple people in my room at that particular hotel and others without any problems.

IMHO, most business hotels don't bother guests if a room is registered as a single if the second party does not try to get a free breakfast or charge to the room. Just pay for dining separately. If you are on a club floor, just take your guest elsewhere for happy hour.

Out of curiosity, I took a look at the SPG site. Standard rooms are the same price for 1 or 2 but club rooms are different.

YMMV. I actually had guests meet on club floor lounges / restaurants and not get charged extra.

I also always get 2-3 key cards.