Chiang Mai

You'll see them, of course, but they won't bother much with you unless you give them cause to do so. They'll usually board the buses from Mae Sai, for example, but they never give farangs a second glance.

Never got into the border action myself, but it's definitely there.

Chiang Mai is now a kind of sex desert... NOTHING interesting to do. The girls in the bar beers, either on Loi Khro (spelling ?) or at night market are either old or ugly or mother or often the three at the same time. I dare say 80 per cent of the girls have had kids (which means AUTOMATICALLY in Thailand, ugly boobs and belly).
Even at Spotlight A Gogo, which is supposed to be the upmarket one, I had difficulty to pick up an attractive one, and one in my room I discovered that she had awful flat tits. The belly and body in general was quite nice though, which did not make me suspect her maternity. Been 3 days in Chiang Mai, I have not a single place to recommand.

Erik -- used to be some beautiful young women in the beer bars along Moon Muang Road, particularly in and around the Muy Thai boxing area; you might want to check there. No question that the Chiang Mai scene is different than Bangkok or Pattaya and isn't to everyone's tastes -- and given that it's now low season a lot of ladies are elsewhere.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by joe_zop
[i]Erik -- used to be some beautiful young women in the beer bars along Moon Muang Road, particularly in and around the Muy Thai boxing area; you might want to check there. No question that the Chiang Mai scene is different than Bangkok or Pattaya and isn't to everyone's tastes -- and given that it's now low season a lot of ladies are elsewhere. [/i][/QUOTE]

I know there is no raeason, but that is reality. Maybe the Chiangmai market is more for older and less picky clients... I don't know. I have of course been in the 2 places where there are bar beers and thai boxing, and the impression is the same.
The only place where to find non-mother girls might be in the 1 or 2 massage parlors, like Sayuri, but I did not check ou them this time.

Sorry you had bad luck -- I didn't find it that way in the fall/early winter, when I hooked up with several who were young, childless and good-looking. Not stunners in the sense of the two more popular areas, but definitely not ugly. Spotlight at that point had at least a dozen who were 21 or younger. No question, though, that the CM bars have a far, far higher concentration of TGs who have worked in the same place a long, long time and who tend to be older.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Erik [i]...... The only place where to find non-mother girls might be in the 1 or 2 massage parlors, like Sayuri, but I did not check ou them this time. [/i][/QUOTE]

Sad for you. I checked out 5 MP's in CM, and most of them had young, beautiful and non-mother girls aged 18-23 for 800-1500 B.

ph

[QUOTE]Originally posted by joe_zop
[i]Sorry you had bad luck -- I didn't find it that way in the fall/early winter, when I hooked up with several who were young, childless and good-looking. Not stunners in the sense of the two more popular areas, but definitely not ugly. Spotlight at that point had at least a dozen who were 21 or younger. No question, though, that the CM bars have a far, far higher concentration of TGs who have worked in the same place a long, long time and who tend to be older. [/i][/QUOTE]

Honestly, I only saw (and did) one beautiful girl at Spotlight. All the other ones were well under avaerage, even if young, with no boobs, really not worth the expense, in Thailand. OK, if we were talking about whoring opportunities in North Korea, I would agree that Spotlight is a paradise, but not in Thailand !

Didn't say it was a paradise, but clearly there are differences in taste at work here -- first you complain that everyone was old and showing the effect of kids, now that maybe they are young but they're all all below average and have no tits. Chiang Mai is not Bangkok or Pattaya or even Phuket in terms of selection or scene, but the idea that there are only old or ugly women running around there is one I simply don't agree with. The general look of women in CM is different than the south, because there are fewer Issan women there, and it's a look you either like or don't, I guess.

Spotlight isn't Superbaby or Angel Witch -- not by a long, loooong shot -- but it's hardly going out and looking for the worst looking women in Thailand either. The absolute stunners tend to head south, because there's higher traffic and they can make more money, but there are still some to be found if you look. No, they're not hanging off the rafters everywhere, but by the same token there are probably more women to choose from in Nana Plaza alone than there are in all of Chiang Mai. Now, because CM women tend to push hard for longer-term hookups, lots of them either don't come into the bars at all once they've hooked up or disappear quickly if they do, but that doesn't mean they're not there. (My tilak there was in Spotlight for only a couple of hours during the days I was with her, and one of the locals bitched me out for hogging her. Tough luck, pal.)

Again, I'm sorry you didn't find it that way, but my experience was different than yours -- the two most absolutely beautiful women I was with my last trip were in Chiang Mai, though I was with a far greater number elsewhere. I did have the luxury of taking longer to look, as I was there for quite a while, but while the scene is definitely slower and of lesser selection that the higher traffic areas, I didn't find myself lacking choices.

Hi there. Does anyone here have any e-mail addresses for contacting girl-friendly Hotels in CM? Am planning a trip in Oct. Thanks,

Donnylad

Donnylad,
Check out some previous posts if you can. Since orginally posting a reply, I see that you've asked this ? on most of the different headings. Please do some research 1st and don't expect us to spoon feed you without at least doing "some" research 1st. No hostility intended. Happy trails!

Hi,

IMHO, Chiang Mai girl is the prettiest in Thailand. Most of them go to Bangkok to make a living.

I have lived in Chiang Mai for much of the past 11 years. Here some info to clarify some of the comments posted here.

Chiang Mai girls are very pretty and of all types. While it's true that many of the "good ones" go to work in Bkk for better money and to escape local detection, there are many left. They just tend NOT to work where the farang hang out! Those places draw the bottom of the heap.

For massage parlours, I would say without question that Sayuri has consistently best quality, though new places open from time to time. I always end up back there eventually. Local prices at Sayuri start at 750 or 850 baht -- can't recall which at the moment since I don't go often.

The places to find the prettiest working girls in Chiang Mai are the Karaoke bars of which there are dozens. These attract the freshest and they usually "go out for overtime" (referred to as O-T).

The problem is that farang who want to go on the cheap will generally not want to pay. Here's how it works int he KB's. You select from any of the girls. You then buy her a drink each 30 minutes. Prices vary based on the establishment from 70 to 100 baht per 30 minutes. This is actually VERY CHEAP compared to Bangkok where they can really kill you. However, it's of course more expensive than the beer bars.

Some of the places specialize in "no bra" or have two categories with or without bra. Prices will vary accordingly.

The girls are usually very service minded. They will sing or let you sing etc. You can generally grope to your heart's content.

If you want to take the girl out, you speak tot he Mamasan. Prices in Chiang Mai vary from 1,000 to 2,000 baht (definitely the hi end). Generally short-time (2 hrs).

The quality of the sex with these girls is however below that of the MP's. The girls often are not as experienced which is of course also part of the attraction.

Some of the notable KB's are Ten, Sinyu, Sayuri, Ai, Horikawa. There are however dozens of them sread through Chiang Mai. You can't miss them as the girls hang out in front of them at night. There are about 10 of them in a section called "Chiang Mai Land" alone.

Hope this adds to someone's adventures.

Jing Jung

An excellent report with info not given here before. Thanks.

Although I was a customer at the MP's (5 of them; Sayuri at B 800) when I visited CM, I have never tried the karaoke places.

Next time I will ....

I have to agree with Jing Jung , I was in Chiang Mai about 6 months ago. I was lucky that my Thai driver is a single guy and he likes to monger with me. He will happily settle for some free beers or preferably whiskey and in return he helps me find all the best spots. We tried the beer bars, the girls looked pretty hard. So we tried the larger massage parlors and they had some of the prettiest girls I've seen in Thailand. Taller, lighter skinned, but very few spoke much English.

Finally we had a TukTuk driver take us to what he said were the best Karaoke bars. We got to pick our girls from about 15 really pretty girls, most in the 20's, and definitely not discards. My girl was about late 20's very friendly, but I chose her because she spoke a little English. One of the few, and my Thai and Lao is exhausted in a few sentences. Anyway I'm sitting there with my hands roaming all over her, since they wear these very loose fitting wispy karaoke uniforms, she has no objection to me playing with anything I can reach as long as it's not too obvious to everyone else in the bar.

We ask how much for short-time and she says 2,000B. So we sit there and sing and play until about closing time. Suddenly my girl calls out to a girl at another couch and this other girl comes over and sits on the other side of me. She says this is my sister who is about 20. So the next thing you know I've got my left hand full of a very large nipple and a full C-cup, definitely not natural, and my right hand is full of a very large nipple and a full, firm B+ natural cup, and my girl says we can both go with you for 3,500B?

I'm very sad because now it's about closing time and my spouse is waiting in the hotel for me. Plus I had to leave Chiang Mai the next morning.

I don't know that I will be able to find them again, probably not, but searching will be a blast.

I don't remember the name of the Karaoke place but it was fairly large karaoke bar on a main street. And the girls were definte northern Thai girls, young,very pretty, tall and fair skinned.

I have to admit that I am a bit reluctant to give out the best info, but I have gotten such good info from this forum for my travels to Hong Kong, Philippines, KL, and now tody in Spain) that I would feel quite ashamed not to!

The best quality in girls is generally to be found at Ten karaoke along the river. Don't try to find it on your own, but any tuk tuk driver would know. It's frequented primarily by Japanese and Thai's, but they are farang friendly as well. Several fo the mamas general speak English and will steer you right.

The Japanese come very early and take the girls out, usually by 9:00 pm. The p[lace opens at 7:30 and closes at 2:00.

Costs 100 baht per half hour for a girl to sit with you. They wear flimsy greek type gowns and no bra. Costs 2,000 to take a girl out (80% do OT; ask when selecting). They generally have about 60 girls on a given night.

Actually what also recommends this club is its excellent and honest managementy! Never been taken for an extra drink and they actually train the girls to give good service.

All of that said, these girls are NOT pro's in the sense of the gitls at MP's. You take your chances. But they are the prettiest and aim to please.

This is gettign too long, but I will report on other K-bars in Chiang Mai in the future.