Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

All these stories are too common. Whatever the age of your girl, subtract 10 years and that's the age she'll act. They're exceptionally passionate, exceptionally sex, fuck like animals, and act like schoolgirls. I just ended a 2.5-year relationship with a beautiful and sexy woman who just didn't know how to act. jealous rage, crying, just general juvenile behavior. Enough. I'm old enough to want to be with grown-ups.

Don't know what I can add to Intransit's excellent analysis except that I think you need to subtract somewhat more than 10 years. Fifteen may be more appropriate. And once they have sex with you forget it. In their eyes, you belong to them. If you thin that by "only" 69'ing her you avoided real sex, I would say you're wrong. Get out now. Do not look back, and do not feel any guilt. The longer you let this go, the more possessive she will be and the more enmeshed you'll become.

T Poet:
The LA Cafe advice is really sound. No bar drinks, no bar fine and no bullshit. I was there last week and hooked up with two really nice looking ladies, and we partied for a long time. They didn't drink anything but fruit juice and I had one beer. They never asked for anything except cab fare when it was over. All of the clubs will hit you hard to ladies drinks, fines and high fees for the girls.

Hank, a lot of the guys here use 2matchu. Would you mind sharing your girlfriend's 2matchu nickname so we don't blunder into the same situation.

Hank,

What you have found is a Pinya that is looking for a better life. Hell arent we all! Before you think I am dogging her I am not. I married a pinya in a similar boat. A few problems 1 there is no divorce in the PI for the common person (ok they can get it anulled but not with 4 kids. So if you bring her to the US DONT try to get a girlfriend visa from the PI go to thialand or something as they do do record checks from the embasey. As far as her love dont underestimate it women from the PI fall in love easy but are usually (USUALLY) faithful to thier men if you treat them well. But that being said it will be hard for you to bring her kids to the US with her and she must be willing to leave them which she might not be willing to do.

Also that being said I had a pinya tell me strieght up that she would marry me just for citizenship so some times they are honest and forward. I turned her down.

WilKil:

I fall more into the "fat old white guy" category I guess, but your observations are correct. I've met alot of African American and African men here, and there's no problem whatsoever. The Filipina obsession with white skin stems from the Spanish colonialization period. Spanish were white, they had the power and position, and the equation that fair skin=prestige and money sprung into being. It's why Filipinas spend a fortune on skin ligthening creams. It's absurd, but it's a point of view that's pretty ingrained here. On the other hand, Filipinas don't seem to give a damn what color their men are so long as the latter treat them like people, and with some degree of kindness. Also, black American film stars and musicians are enormously popular here, and the Filipinos see no irony in their obsession with fair skin on the one hand, and African American culture on the other. Go figure.

I agreed with most of the posting on the relationships.

Hank, you have to realize that you are dealing with a woman with 4 kids, and if she is immature like some, or most Filipinas. then you will have 5 kids to deal with. Wouldn't it be better if you found one with no kids, or 1, instead of 4. That would be a problem to me. If you are feeling sorry for her, I suggest you "Run like Hell!". I don't feel sorry. I don't need this in my life. I, usually spend a month everytime, I am in the P.I. You really need to spend more time there, or step back. Also, I would make sure that the woman, work, or have worked in her life. You don't want a spoiled woman. We have enough of them in the States, and you want to import her, and create the same situation, then you would be asking for it!

Although, I am in a relationship with a Filipina, and the same event happen as all the posters mentioned. I have a little more faith, b/c of her level of education, but that doesn't mean she is there emotional, which could be real dangerous to me. She is a well- to-do woman in the Philippines, and doesn't need anything, or need to go abroad. I, just don't like the constant pounding of "Who are you with?" Which is nobody. Everyone that is in the States, and over 40, know that we are usually with no one!

My views (and with other friends) is that most Filipinos, are like children, who is always asking for money, like give me, give me. They are always dependent on someone. Even Filipinos that I know in the States get tired of those people in the P.I. Of course, they feel it is their duties to provide, or have the relatives talk gossips about them, which they fear the most.

The bottom line is that I am not here to babysit, and don't plan to be. If I am going to do this, I am going to have my own baby, not someone else. I don't mind, if the kids are grown up. I can deal with that.

Intransit:

There are many women like this:

who just didn't know how to act. jealous rage, crying, just general juvenile behavior. Enough. I'm old enough to want to be with grown-ups.

yes, I agreed, and find this quite comical. Sometime, I get a good laugh at this, b/c it is soooooo funny. Many guys don't even understand that some of the woman, made be really uneducated, and they will have to train them like children.

Yes, I am old enough, and I don't need to be moniter on my every move. I told her, she can tag along, if she likes. I am always looking for business there in SE Asia, and this can be quite boring for the less interest individual.

Deep Diver,

I find that Filipinas are in a fantasy world. They live like they are in a fairy tale. They can falling in love, and fall out of love very fast.

I do notice that they start liking me fast, and I just ignore them. When they pout, I really ignore them. Just b/c they cry, I am going to feel sorry for them, b/c they didn't get there way. Remember, they are like children.

Another thing, they are good at is making babies. Hey, I am not generalizing. When half of their population is under 25 year olds, that tell you something. The P.I. is 80-100 Million people there. If you can't find a wife, or girlfriend there, something is wrong. ugly, or not, poor, or not, just have citizen to abroad is all it takes.

Spidey,

I couldnt agree with you more. ATM I am married to a pinya and have 3 on the side. ( they allknow about my wife but not nessecarily about eachother in most cases ) I have no problem telling them NO and your right they are children or at lest act like it as they are 44,39,33,23 what can I say I am a dog! oh well.

Deep Diver,

You know what , there are Americans (Is there a age limit for immaturity? ), who are 40-50-60, that still act immature. It's just that the Filipinas have to hustle, so they have to grow up faster. There is a lost of childhood here. They are forced to become adults immediate.

Of course, we all act immature at times, especially in Asia. What can I say, this is Adult Disneyland here! It's Like having Candy everyday, and still can't get enough of it, and more!

Diver, You're just a good parent, who can say "NO!" lol

Btw, if you say no to them, do they pout?

deep Diver and Spidey:

You are not only correct, but I think you've identified the cardinal rule of the Philippines. The corolloary to this, that allows you to survive is: "Sorry baby, but these are the rules." I have found that it's better to be totally honest at the front end regarding what you will accept and what you find unacceptable. At the first sign of deviation just walk away, telling her, "sorry but I told you up front." Otherwise, you will wind up in a morass of emotional complications that gets ever more difficult to escape. I know this sounds harsh, and perhaps unfair, but so be it. You, as a foreigner, ain't gonna change the culture, the behaviors, or, for the most part, the expectations, and this is about self preservation.The bottom line? Be considerate, be honest, be fair, and above all be firm.

Hi Guys.

I’m planning a trip to the Philippines in August and would appreciate opinions from some of you experts on filipinas what you think of the following:

I went to the Philippines for the first time last December to spend some time with a cute girl I’d got to meet on the Internet I spent a pleasant couple of weeks travelling around PI with her and her two friends. All three of them shared a room with me but (unfortunately!) it turned out to be quite platonic so no sex with any of them. However, thanks to the excellent advice on this board I managed to find plenty of action to satisfy the manly needs between spending time with them. I spent a few days in Manila (Makati) and found a couple of girls around P Burgos St who fitted the bill perfectly. Avoided the expensive bars in the area but managed to hook up with girls passing by whilst I was sitting at a pavement bar on P Burgos St. So, no bar fines! Took them back to my hotel (City Garden) and had no trouble bringing them up to the room. I also spent a few days in Ermita, at the other City Garden hotel there, which was much more convenient for the LA Cafe (and equally girl friendly.The reception even phoned up as they were leaving and checked that everything was ok). The LA Cafe lived up to all the good things posted elsewhere on this board and I had no trouble finding some really nice girls. One night, I took two of them together back to the hotel with me and much fun was had by all!

Anyway, back to my story. The girl I had gone to meet turned out to be real sulky and eventually she and her two friends left on their own to go back to Manila just after we’d got to Boracay! However, one of her friends was really gorgeous and she contacted me a few times via SMS while I was still in PI and afterwards. We’ve been keeping in touch ever since via email and Yahoo Messenger. This girl was a student, just finishing her studies, and in March she asked me for money to pay for her exam fees. Rightly or wrongly I sent her some cash. A few days later she sent me an email to say her brother had had an accident and she’d been forced to use the cash I’d sent her for his hospital bills. He also needed an operation, so, could I send some more cash? I told her no and we didn’t communicate for a while after that. We’ve been communicating again for the last month or so and I told her I was planning a trip to the East in August. Of course, she’d love to see me and has agreed to travel around with me in Philippines and abroad on what she quaintly describes as a sort of “honeymoon”.

I’ve now had an email from her asking for cash as she’s desperately short of funds. My instinct is to drop her immediately and not contact her again. But then I will be missing out on a fantastic holiday. I’ve read a few reports on this board that filipinas are not shy to ask for cash. So, my question is, if I send her a small amount of cash will this be regarded as a normal way for friends to help each other out? Or should I heed the warnings that she’s really just a (very attractive and gorgeous) gold digger and have nothing more to do with her?

Any advice from those of you who have experience with these lovely ladies will be much appreciated!

Iron Duke

GoodEnough,

I think your advice is superb. One's message must be clear at all times.

Iron Duke,

So, what else is new? Go to the Makati section and read what we are talking about.

I understand that your friend's friend is good looking, and so is many other girls in the Philippines. Depending on your taste. There are so many girls, if you are a foreigner, professional, or have a business, then you are in demand. It doesn't matter how you look, as long as you are able to support. That is what it is all about in Asia. Philippines is a little more extreme than the neighboring countries. They are consider one of the poor countries in SE Asia.

Iron Duke, you have to find someone else now, it's too late for there to be anything with her. Since you sent her money already, you already have the work "sucker" written on your forehead and she will forever see you that way. What I would do is keep putting off sending her money until your trip, think of excuses, etc, get your monies worth when you get there from her and disappear after that. You can find plenty more where she came from. One good scam deserves another.

Mook

Iron Duke,

I can't believe you paid for three women to go to Boracay and get no action! Definitely, you're playing too much of a nice guy for women you just want to bang. My suggestion is that you determine first if the women are "virtuous" or not. The instant that your girl suggested to bring two other girl companions with her on a trip with you, should have raised a red flag that you are NOT getting any action especially if she is not a bar girl. It's like bringing your own witness to your own crime and nobody's going to do that. What you don't know in Filipino culture is that a "virtuous" girl (claiming to be one qualifies too) would bring companions as witnesses that she'd been "virtuous" all the time while you were with her. Somehow your story have gaps since you never mentioned whether your girl stayed with you (at least in your room) or not. Another is you never mentioned seeing the two other girls actually leave for Manila; sounds like a rouse to get a free ride. I'm sure those two other girls are somewhere else on the same beach! Boracay is the most popular beach in the Philippines and who would want to go back to Manila when you are standing on it.

You need to "graduate" how you appreciate women. You don't give an beach vacation to a girl you just meet or give a trip around the world to a girl you have the slightest idea about. Are you like this even when you are not mongering? Read all the post here and learn from it.

The need for money in the Philippines is unquenchable. Borrowing or asking money is already an artform there. Imagine being poor and not having enough all the time; you could only think of how you can break out of a pitiful situation. Asking money from strangers is not a tradition but poverty forces people to do so. Don't buy every bit of her story and don't mind the teasers. Everyone there knows a SOB story and a tease work wonders in loosening somebody else's pockets.

For this reason that you should just drop her and make an excuse and contact her only when you are close to seeing her, for example, when you are already at the airport to start your mongering adventure and, when you do see her, do you own lip service to get in her pants!

But one more thing, when you do go for a "honeymoon" (you see, this is an angle she is working on you and she knows you are just thrilled about this: ka-ching ka-ching) don't let her bring companions with her. Iron Duke, at least, try to live up to your name.

MasterBlaster

[blue]Hi,

This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.

I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it easier to read a report if the paragraphs are separated by a single blank line.

I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key TWICE at the end of each paragraph, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.

Thanks,

[i]Jackson[/i][/blue]