Monterrey

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With respect to the circumstance where the girls are "hoping" for the romance, affection, caring, concern, love, etc...that's missing in their lives...my girl is in that same stage of life.

She would love to find a nice novio, eventually marry him, stop working in the bar, raise her son within a loving family, and ultimately live a relatively simply, but happy life.

That is my only regret, seeing my friend pine away for a normal, loving, relationship, and also knowing that I can not provide it for her. She knows I can't provide it, and that I specifically do not promise it. I can sometimes tell that my mere presence serves to remind her of what is missing. She apparently sees in our encounters, the root of her desires in life. That is what hurts me the most. Que Lastima, Verdad?[/QUOTE]

you guys are breaking my heart.

in my next trip to mty, i'm gonna take my "p" girl , no, not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], it's "p" girl. i'm gonna take her out to a dinner and a movie after we go shopping, and maybe buy her another gift that will get my "s" girl furious, again, carlos, remember? i will also buy her a couple of bags of groceries for her mom and kids. she always saves the airline cookies i bring to give to her mom.

but what good will that do? she will have fun for a day. live the life of a true girlfriend with a man who 'can' provide and then i'm gone.

my "s" girl has a boyfriend. i asked her if he knows that she works at the "i". she said yes but he does not know she goes out with me. she sticks her head out the door and looks both directions before she exists and always insists on getting out of the taxi a block before the club and will walk back alone fearing her boyfriend might be around.

well heck, she is cheating on her boyfriend who knows she services men in a sc. go figure.

i already spend entire days with my lady "j" on weekends. we go around like a married couple always holding hands. she hugs me and kisses me while we wait for the green light. and believe it or not, my "x" girl, who is 18, does the same thing. i keep telling myself that people will think she is my grandchild. i tell her that i am her grandpa and she is my niña grande.

another girl, my lovely "m" from the "el c" place walks to my hotel and always tells me that there is no need to walk her back. sounding sincere, but the truth is, i see her looking far out as if she's worried someone might be stalking her. i still walk far behind her to make sure she's ok until she enters the club. if you see her, you'd understand how tempting she would be for an idiot to attack her. she is beautiful beyond description.

and finally, my ultimate mty queen, the one i conquered mty with, the one i would give up all the girls for, refuses for me to walk her even down to the hotel lobby fearing the hotel staff might think we are, in her own word, f**king. she claims she has never ever been in a hotel before in her life. why do i beleive her?

the first time lady "j" came to my hotel, she called me from downstairs telling me they would not allow her to come up. it turned out she walked into the bank next door asking to see mr. ####. they would not let her go upstairs becasue .. well... the bank does not have a guest staying there called mr. #####. not to mention the fact that it is a single story bank.

wasted.


[quote=unospongebob]i agree with your conclusions completely my friend. no disagreement here.

with respect to the circumstance where the girls are "hoping" for the romance, affection, caring, concern, love, etc...that's missing in their lives...my girl is in that same stage of life.

she would love to find a nice novio, eventually marry him, stop working in the bar, raise her son within a loving family, and ultimately live a relatively simply, but happy life.

that is my only regret, seeing my friend pine away for a normal, loving, relationship, and also knowing that i can not provide it for her. she knows i can't provide it, and that i specifically do not promise it. i can sometimes tell that my mere presence serves to remind her of what is missing. she apparently sees in our encounters, the root of her desires in life. that is what hurts me the most. que lastima, verdad?[/quote]

Places in Mty to get nonworking girls...
Well first of all if you are in the 20-30 age range (tops 35) you can go to the Barrio Antiguo. Thursday to Saturday it is a place that rocks with discos and bars.
If you are over 35, the lobby bar at the Crowne Plaza will be tha place to go on weekends.


[QUOTE=Prtyr2]I don't live in Mexico but have lived in the Dominican republic on and off for a few years. So I have been around the block many times.I have had tons of girls say whatever popped into her head and what she may think I wanted to hear etc. In the case I mentioned. . . .do to the timing of the comment and the look in her eyes. . . . I would bet my life she was serious. . . .and that was NOT what I wanted to hear;-)

Now to steer this back to Monterrey. . . . since you live there and know the city. What places do you recommend to just hang out and have a few drinks and maybe flirt with non working girls? I am not going there for a mongering vacation so there is no real pressure to get laid etc. . . .I enjoy getting to know new cities and people etc. . . .if I get lucky. . . .so be it! If not. . . .no biggy.[/QUOTE]

hi bigjohn...i won't be there again until february 24th. sorry i'll miss you. i wish i had that same airfare from the midwestern us to mty. damn...that hurts!!! have fun!!!

wastedg,

most take my comments much too seriously. your comments illustrate what i go through on a fairly frequent basis with the girls.

imho, their hearts are hungry. something is lacking, emotionally, for so many of these girls. i can sense it, many are starved for affection and caring. i don't know if it's related to the types of girls we are exposed to, the girls that work the bars versus the "regular" non-pros out there. but, it is a wide spread, common, occurrence with these bar girls.

my problem is, i just can't help but feel sorry for them. i realize that they have so much affection to give, and i sense that their need is so great that i just can't help by console them. i just want to give them a little sincere kindness and appreciation. my attentions are totally and completely sincere.

so, i like to pamper them, taking them to a movie, dinner, just walking with them in the mall, talking to them...just simple things. i do it not out of my having alterior motives, not to play head games with them, or get freebies, or screw them up psychologically, not out of some warped sense of control, not anything like that, but just to show them i really sincerely appreciate being around them. for that, i am often the object of their emotional affections...just because i treated them nicely, gave them some sincere, usually non-sexual attention, listened to them, etc...

and, you know as well as i, on occassion, they project onto us all their hopes and dreams, usually knowing full well that we are simply a pleasant distraction, just smoke and mirrors, something outside their ordinary realm of experience. it sometimes takes them a while to finally figure it out so they can adjust their emotions and move on.

i don't mean for things to progress to that point, but sometimes it just does, and by the time it does, things have already progressed too far to turn back without hurting their feelings. there is a way to handle it without hurting them if things progress too far, but it requires adequate time for things to cool off. everyone just has to have patience. it will all eventually normalize naturally.

none of this has any lasting reality...we know it...they know it...we are all just engaging in a little emotional, sexual, and affectionate infatuation, nothing more.


[quote=wastedgman]you guys are breaking my heart.

in my next trip to mty, i'm gonna take my "p" girl , no, not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], it's "p" girl. i'm gonna take her out to a dinner and a movie after we go shopping, and maybe buy her another gift that will get my "s" girl furious, again, carlos, remember? i will also buy her a couple of bags of groceries for her mom and kids. she always saves the airline cookies i bring to give to her mom.

but what good will that do? she will have fun for a day. live the life of a true girlfriend with a man who 'can' provide and then i'm gone.

my "s" girl has a boyfriend. i asked her if he knows that she works at the "i". she said yes but he does not know she goes out with me. she sticks her head out the door and looks both directions before she exists and always insists on getting out of the taxi a block before the club and will walk back alone fearing her boyfriend might be around.

well heck, she is cheating on her boyfriend who knows she services men in a sc. go figure.

i already spend entire days with my lady "j" on weekends. we go around like a married couple always holding hands. she hugs me and kisses me while we wait for the green light. and believe it or not, my "x" girl, who is 18, does the same thing. i keep telling myself that people will think she is my grandchild. i tell her that i am her grandpa and she is my niña grande.

another girl, my lovely "m" from the "el c" place walks to my hotel and always tells me that there is no need to walk her back. sounding sincere, but the truth is, i see her looking far out as if she's worried someone might be stalking her. i still walk far behind her to make sure she's ok until she enters the club. if you see her, you'd understand how tempting she would be for an idiot to attack her. she is beautiful beyond description.

and finally, my ultimate mty queen, the one i conquered mty with, the one i would give up all the girls for, refuses for me to walk her even down to the hotel lobby fearing the hotel staff might think we are, in her own word, f**king. she claims she has never ever been in a hotel before in her life. why do i beleive her?

the first time lady "j" came to my hotel, she called me from downstairs telling me they would not allow her to come up. it turned out she walked into the bank next door asking to see mr. ####. they would not let her go upstairs becasue .. well... the bank does not have a guest staying there called mr. #####. not to mention the fact that it is a single story bank.

wasted.[/quote]

Hey.... :-) maybe WastedG and me should try our shinnanigans in the Bario on some non-working girls on this next trip. In the past, I would never have tried it. But, my Spanish is getting cuter by the minute. Maybe a mature, but loveable, Gringo would have a shot at a 30 something mujer. I wonder???

Of course, WastedG would not be able to grope them, or slap them hard on the exposed ass in order to get their attention. Obviously, we would have to figure out some other, more subtle, less obvious, strategies Wasted

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Places in Mty to get nonworking girls...
Well first of all if you are in the 20-30 age range (tops 35) you can go to the Barrio Antiguo. Thursday to Saturday it is a place that rocks with discos and bars.
If you are over 35, the lobby bar at the Crowne Plaza will be tha place to go on weekends.[/QUOTE]

Funny you should think that if you end your affair, you are hurting their feelings. I still have good relation with 'all' the girls I loved before. one of them, "S" girl, smacks me on the back of my head as she passes behind me, but still gives me a hug and a kiss and sometimes drags me upstairs only to remind me of how hot she is. shoot. I miss taking her out. Too bad she has an 11 pm curfew.

Even my Dreadful "D" girl whom I thought would tear the house down, again, has accepted her place and sets with me for a few drinks. I give her a sincere hug and embrace her tight even if I am with any of the other girls. I make it clear to all the girl that "once a friend, always a friend'. This also sends them the message that they too will always be my beloved friends at the least.

Why would you 'end' the relationship? Do what I do. If you find another girl you like, invite her for a drink with your girl as well. Take them both up or out. Then alternate. Simple. I had "X" and "MTY trophy" in my room twice. Both love me and both are to die for. Or in "X" girl case, might die with. I think she will drag me down if I am not careful.

Wasted


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Hi BigJohn...I won't be there again until February 24th. Sorry I'll miss you. I wish I had that same airfare from the Midwestern US to MTY. Damn...that hurts!!! Have fun!!!

WastedG,

Most take my comments much too seriously, and I happen to think that in your most recent comments you illustrated my point even further...

IMHO, their hearts are already breaking in their daily lives. I can sense it, many are starved for affection and caring. It is a wide spread, common, occurrence with these girls. My problem is, I just can't help but feel sorry for them. I realize that they have so much affection to give, and I sense that their need is so great that I just can't help by console them. I just want to give them a little sincere kindness and appreciation. My attentions are totally and completely sincere.

So, I pamper them, taking them to a movie, dinner, just walking with them in the mall, talking to them...just simple things. I do it not out of my having alterior motives, not to play head games with them, or get freebies, or screw them up psychologically, not out of some warped sense of control, not anything like that, but just to show them I really sincerely appreciate them. For that, I am often the object of their emotional affections...just because I treated them nicely.

And, you know as well as I, on occassion, they project onto us all their hopes and dreams, usually knowing full well that we are simply a pleasant distraction, just smoke and mirrors, something outside their ordinary realm of experience. It sometimes takes them a while to finally figure it out so they can adjust their emotions and move on.

I don't mean for things to progress to that point, but sometimes it just does, and by the time it does, things have already progressed too far to turn back without hurting their feelings. There is a way to handle it without hurting them if things progress too far, but it requires adequate time for things to cool off. Everyone just has to have patience. It will all eventually normalize naturally. None of this has any lasting reality...we know it...they know it...We are all just engaging in a little emotional, sexual, and affectionate infatuation, nothing more.[/QUOTE]

Have you been to Bario on a weekend night? I do not think you can handle the girls out there USB. I will have to buy you a box of Kleenex to wipe your drool. The girls are dressed to kill but they can not afford entire dresses. They are damn hot. And to make things worse, the dudes are there for the hunt as well. We stand no chance of scoring. Stick to Madero :)

Wasted


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Hey.... :-) maybe WastedG and me should try our shinnanigans in the Bario on some non-working girls on this next trip. In the past, I would never have tried it. But, my Spanish is getting cuter by the minute. I wonder???[/QUOTE]

I love a challenge...regarding the barios.

Well, with respect to breaking things off because I am hurting their feelings...no, that really isn't it. If I break things off it's usually because I have lost interest in them because they no longer deliver the goods like before. They still have a responsibility if they are going to remain at the top of my dance card. If they fail me, there is little hope for them in the future.

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]Have you been to Bario on a weekend night? I do not think you can handle the girls out there USB. I will have to buy you a box of Kleenex to wipe your drool. The girls are dressed to kill but they can not afford entire dresses. They are damn hot. And to make things worse, the dudes are there for the hunt as well. We stand no chance of scoring. Stick to Madero :)

Wasted[/QUOTE]

Hmmm. . ..sounds like the Crowne Plaza it is then. . . . . .lol. . . . .I was 35 once. . . . almost 10 years ago;-) My spanish is decent. Grammar is far from perfect but I get my points across pretty much all the time. As I said I am not hunting for the sure thing just looking to enjoy my time in Monterrey and meet new people etc. Heck is far west rodeo still open? lol I went there years ago and it was definitely different!

Heck, I am sure I will make a stop in Barrio antiguo, just for kicks etc. In fact I may have been there years ago with my ex wife. Window shopping can be fun even if you can't buy;-)

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Places in Mty to get nonworking girls...
Well first of all if you are in the 20-30 age range (tops 35) you can go to the Barrio Antiguo. Thursday to Saturday it is a place that rocks with discos and bars.
If you are over 35, the lobby bar at the Crowne Plaza will be tha place to go on weekends.[/QUOTE]

It isn't about challenges... sorry to tell you , El Barrio Antiguo is real life where age is important.
El Barrio is for youngsters not for us.


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]I love a challenge...regarding the barios.

Well, with respect to breaking things off because I am hurting their feelings...no, that really isn't it. If I break things off it's usually because I have lost interest in them because they no longer deliver the goods like before. They still have a responsibility if they are going to remain at the top of my dance card. If they fail me, there is little hope for them in the future.[/QUOTE]

Far West Rodeo is still open...

[QUOTE=Prtyr2]Hmmm. . ..sounds like the Crowne Plaza it is then. . . . . .lol. . . . .I was 35 once. . . . almost 10 years ago;-) My spanish is decent. Grammar is far from perfect but I get my points across pretty much all the time. As I said I am not hunting for the sure thing just looking to enjoy my time in Monterrey and meet new people etc. Heck is far west rodeo still open? lol I went there years ago and it was definitely different!

Heck, I am sure I will make a stop in Barrio antiguo, just for kicks etc. In fact I may have been there years ago with my ex wife. Window shopping can be fun even if you can't buy;-)[/QUOTE]

What a coincident! I was about to ask the same. Tell us more about the rodeo. Although I am not a great fan, but I would imagine this would be fun in Mexico. Do they have horseback riding? Bull fighting (which I think is a crime) and what else? Is it open on weekend as well as weekdays? What kind of crowd does it attract? Young, old, snobs, domestic help? How far from el centro? Give us details Carlos, Sir.

Can you take a horse on a salida :) .. for USB that is. (This is cruel). Maybe USB will get a Horse GFE -- lol - Just kidding USB. You know I love you.

Wasted.

Found it : EL MEJOR AMBIENTE ESTA SOLAMENTE EN FAR WEST RODEO !!! -- ¡¡ LLEGALE TEMPRANO !!

[url]http://www.farwestrodeo.com/index2.htm[/url]

Looks real cool. Thursday thru Sunday. I'm fixin' to go. I'll take my "P" or "J". Remind me to get a camera and buy a cowboy hat. woohoo.. :)

It’s outdoors, right?


[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Far West Rodeo is still open...[/QUOTE]

You are kidding, right?
When the rodeos (Texano style, mixed with Mexican charro) opened in Monterrey I was already above the average age as a guy looking for girls.
It's for the young of age (not heart) and in style it is opposite to snobbish Barrio Antiguo, this is more working class, but in escence it is still a closely nit enormous big group that does not allow outsiders.
And again, this is not rodeo as the US cowboy rodeo.
This is indoor Mexican redneck rodeo, where music plays and beer flows.
Come on guys... this Barrio Antiguo and Rodeo stuff works the same here as in the USA, but with different names.
And Wasted, yes, you can take your girls, but remember when I told you when we were walking down Madero Ave with the girls and everyone was staring at us???
This is the kind of place where you will be scorned at for bringing girls in, starting with the difference in age, maybe not their looks, but guaranteed that guys will try to hit on them.
This is not the AI club where everything is allowed. Remeber the AI as is the Taboo are part of the gritty night scene.
Barrio Antiguo, Rodeos et al are not "the other Monterrey".
Don't mix oil and water


[QUOTE=Wastedgman]What a coincident! I was about to ask the same. Tell us more about the rodeo. Although I am not a great fan, but I would imagine this would be fun in Mexico. Do they have horseback riding? Bull fighting (which I think is a crime) and what else? Is it open on weekend as well as weekdays? What kind of crowd does it attract? Young, old, snobs, domestic help? How far from el centro? Give us details Carlos, Sir.

Can you take a horse on a salida :) .. for USB that is. (This is cruel). Maybe USB will get a Horse GFE -- lol - Just kidding USB. You know I love you.

Wasted.

Found it : EL MEJOR AMBIENTE ESTA SOLAMENTE EN FAR WEST RODEO !!! -- ¡¡ LLEGALE TEMPRANO !!

[url]http://www.farwestrodeo.com/index2.htm[/url]

Looks real cool. Thursday thru Sunday. I'm fixin' to go. I'll take my "P" or "J". Remind me to get a camera and buy a cowboy hat. woohoo.. :)

It’s outdoors, right?[/QUOTE]

Well heck, you killed it for me man. Even if I wore a cowboy hat and boots? I am willing to buy the hat and the boots for that day and then toss them in the trash for all I care. No, I am dead serious. I would like to go. Not to pick up girls or anything like that. Purely for the love of horses.

Is this place considered a pickup or party place like Bario? If so, then I guess you're right. However, not to doubt you, I looked at the pix on the website. I see all ages. If I behave, "P" can pass ass my daughter and I will give anyone hitting on her the mean look. You know my look can kill. If I take Lady "J", she can pass as my partner. She has the mature look.

But seriously, tell me again. Do you absolutely recommend against it? If so, is there another place to go horseback riding?

Wasted


[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]You are kidding, right?
When the rodeos (Texano style, mixed with Mexican charro) opened in Monterrey I was already above the average age as a guy looking for girls.
It's for the young of age (not heart) and in style it is opposite to snobbish Barrio Antiguo, this is more working class, but in escence it is still a closely nit enormous big group that does not allow outsiders.
And again, this is not rodeo as the US cowboy rodeo.
This is indoor Mexican redneck rodeo, where music plays and beer flows.
Come on guys... this Barrio Antiguo and Rodeo stuff works the same here as in the USA, but with different names.
And Wasted, yes, you can take your girls, but remember when I told you when we were walking down Madero Ave with the girls and everyone was staring at us???
This is the kind of place where you will be scorned at for bringing girls in, starting with the difference in age, maybe not their looks, but guaranteed that guys will try to hit on them.
This is not the AI club where everything is allowed. Remeber the AI as is the Taboo are part of the gritty night scene.
Barrio Antiguo, Rodeos et al are not "the other Monterrey".
Don't mix oil and water[/QUOTE]

WastedG,

Listen, I thought Carlos said the girls were referring to my girl as a "Cow" not a "Horse." :-)

Their awful, insensitive, criticisms are all born out of jealousy. Those girls all wish they were in her shoes. Besides, my girl is thinner and harder bodied that any of the girls that are making such mean sprited comments.

But, as a Gringo that knows both cattle and horses quite well, I can assure you that she is more like a leopard or a tiger, a "pussy" per se. I could understand if you want to categorize her muscle groups in the range of a hardbodied filly, like a bucking bronco, but to try to pass her off as a big boned, clumsy, Hereford???? NOT!!!

No, franlky, there are many more girls in El Infinito that actually could be categorized as cows or horses. Certainly, there must be number of empty feedbags lying around El Infinito these days. :-)

And, speaking of the Rodeo, did you know that I, USB, am actually quite a horseman myself? I actually have three horses, two full blooded quarter horses, and the other a quarter horse/thoroughbred mix. I will have to show you pictures of them next time we are in Monterrey together. I have the photos on my laptop. They are all freezing their asses off in my pasture right now (18 degrees F).

As for the Rodeo...I will be holding a rodeo in my room on this next trip, and there won't be any cows or horses there, but maybe a few pussys.

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]What a coincident! I was about to ask the same. Tell us more about the rodeo. Although I am not a great fan, but I would imagine this would be fun in Mexico. Do they have horseback riding? Bull fighting (which I think is a crime) and what else? Is it open on weekend as well as weekdays? What kind of crowd does it attract? Young, old, snobs, domestic help? How far from el centro? Give us details Carlos, Sir.

Can you take a horse on a salida :) .. for USB that is. (This is cruel). Maybe USB will get a Horse GFE -- lol - Just kidding USB. You know I love you.

Wasted.

Found it : EL MEJOR AMBIENTE ESTA SOLAMENTE EN FAR WEST RODEO !!! -- ¡¡ LLEGALE TEMPRANO !!

[url]http://www.farwestrodeo.com/index2.htm[/url]

Looks real cool. Thursday thru Sunday. I'm fixin' to go. I'll take my "P" or "J". Remind me to get a camera and buy a cowboy hat. woohoo.. :)

It’s outdoors, right?[/QUOTE]