Jakarta

[QUOTE=Nicky Vicky]Spa in Jakarta

Hi Bebek,

Is that most of the Spa in Jakarta. Example: for local Indonesian girls, Chinese PRC and Others girls. Is that they have their different own mamasan to lead their own group of girls show to customers?[/QUOTE]
In some spas, yes, such as the Malioboro (described below by Bebek), and the Sumo Shiatsu in Kelapa Gading, described by me in a post just over a month ago.

In other places, such as Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai) and Kartika Spa, the girls seem to be on their own.

In some places, such as Hotel Travel and Stadium 3rd floor, there are several mamasans floating around, but it's not clear if they represent only some girls or not, or if they are just there to make sure you pick a girl (as opposed to leaving right away).

[QUOTE=Bebek]I first stumbled onto Kartika Massage in 2002 when I was in Jakarta for just over a week to attend a wedding. I learnt about it and several others like it from an internet search but Kartika was the only one that I could actually find with the directions that were given at the time. I went alone about 4.00pm one afternoon...

In the end I got off the extra shot paid her the Rp130K + RP40K – no tip was even mentioned then and left a happy man.

I’ve been back to Kartika many times since then...[/QUOTE]
Thanks to Bebek for his kind words.

This post is a good reference point to a discussion from a week ago, which was about price inflation for sex in Jakarta.

It has definitely gotten more expensive to have sex in Jakarta, as prices have increased at the spas, thanks mainly to the 30% inflation rate since late 2005, and the girls' expectations have increased as well, both for the size of the tip (at a spa) and the ST/LT rate demanded by freelancers.

Kartika is a good example. In August 2004 the house fee was 200,000 rupiah, having just been increased from 175,000, and the girls would have been ecstatic if you gave them a 40,000 rupiah tip. By February 2005 the house fee was 225,000 rupiah, and by 2006 it was increased to 250,000 rupiah, and the girls will definitely expect at least a 50,000 rupiah tip. Factor in the drop in the US dollar exchange rate from 11,000 to 9,000 rupiah, and the cost of sex at Kartika has increased noticeably.

Another example is the Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai). In December 2005 (when the US$ exchange rate was 10,000), the house fee was 320,000 rupiah tip included. It's now 350,000 rupiah, and when I was there a couple of weeks aggo, the girl I was with, Monica, asked for a "bonus," which I refused to pay with a smile.

However, as Bulai69 pointed out in his recent post, even taking price inflation and the falling US $ exchange rate into account, having sex in Jakarta is still much, much cheaper than in the US or the UK, and much more satisfying (at least with most girls here). Just realize that one will not find bargain-basement rates here (US $10 or less), unless one goes to a truly-dangerous neighborhood, or lucks out with a freebie or near-freebie.

If you go back 10 years, there's very little price inflation, if you're a foreigner. I was in Jakarta in October/November 1997 and the Rupiah was starting to fall, around 3000/USD. Hotels seemed expensive, by mid-western U.S. standards. My room at Atlet Century Plaza on the club floor ran 120 USD. A date at Bintang Mawar or TC was 30 USD (100,000 Rp.), and Maribaya was a little more expensive (not a lot more like today). I blew $70 on a hooker I met in JJ's, and she was pissed off because she thought I was underpaying!

Flash forward to May and June of 1998. There was rioting in the streets. Several malls were torched and went up in flames, and Suharto was deposed. The Chinese were running for their lives. The Rupiah took a nose dive to 14,000/USD. And you could find the cheapest, best quality poontang in the world in Jakarta. I was blown away by one cewek in TC, an honest to goodness "10", that I had for a little over 10 USD, including the tip. The room in the Atlet had dropped to $35. Even the Karaoke places were cheap! You could get drinks, a little plate of fruit and the company of a woman for less than what you'd spend on beer back home. The women in Blok M were suffering, as a lot of the foreigners had either disappeared or were laying low. Probably people were being a little paranoid, although I did hear that a couple of Brits were killed by taxi drivers.

Anyway, shortly after is when Indonesia started to become a really popular P4P destination for foreign sex tourists, because of the cheap pussy.

I have a theory. If you want to make money in emerging markets, both in the currency and the stock markets, follow the mongers. When they start to swarm a country, buy. You would have done well if you bought shares in Indonesia back during the period -- the market is up 5X since then and the currency is up about 50%. Then sell when the mongers leave. And if inflation stays up and the currency continues to maintain its value, that day may be just around the corner.

[QUOTE=Bebek] ..
If you are interested in white girls I saw some more at the Alexis hotel in Jakarta Utara. I was again, told these girls were Russian and expensive compared to the local wanita. There is a night club on the ground floor but I was also told that there is better action upstairs. [/QUOTE]
Excellent posting, Bebek.. thanks for sharing.

The Alexis hotel -formerly known as Grand Ancol- has, as you noted, a nite club on it's ground floor and has action upstairs - but it's a very upmarket establishment. Prices will be starting around 1 M, and up, for a girl. The top floor, where the action is, is a very tasteful designed spa - entrance fee is 120k which will get you a locker, only.

It hosts a mix of girls - amongst nice looking Indonesian, there are Thai stunners, stylish silk-dressed Chinese pretty's and as you write, some white Russian girls. .. Now, I have traveled Russia couple of times, even speak a few words, and I think Russia hosts some of the most beautiful Caucasian women in the world, but you may agree with me if I say that unfortunately these have not come to the Alexis hotel.. yes, the girls do have blond hair and blue eyes, but compared to the Asian girls there, the physique of these white girls looks like they will be doing a great job collecting potatoes behind a tractor.. 1,5 M - not for me, I'd stick to the local wanita, cheers.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Another example is the Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai). In December 2005 (when the US$ exchange rate was 10,000), the house fee was 320,000 rupiah tip included. It's now 350,000 rupiah, and when I was there a couple of weeks aggo, the girl I was with, Monica, asked for a "bonus," which I refused to pay with a smile. [/QUOTE]Hello there I'll pick up on this thread to say that on my first trip to Jakarta, I found the set-up at Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai) quite a turn-off for the price (R350,000):the room where I took the girl was shabby so I brought her to my own room, which for R320,000 was just okay. For those prices, you get a Thai girl for much longer than one hour, in a much nicer hotel room. Having said that, this was my first foray into Indonesia and I reckon that I have much to learn and that overall I found the people and the girls lovely in general.

Greetings,

I have arrived to Jakarta a few days ago, am not really enjoying the rain, and as I asked to the concierge of my hotel (Intercontinental Mid-Plaza) about Bok M, he advised me that the way to go there is all flooded.

Is it true? Sorry, but I am here all isolated in my Ivory Tower, and I'd like to take a tour. Well, I hope tomorrow will be fine.

Some parts are under 4 meters of water supposedly Yikes.

Associated Press
Published: Saturday, February 03, 2007

The worst flooding to hit the city in five years had receded slightly Saturday in some city-centre districts, but continued to rise in outlying areas, media reports and witnesses said.

Several main roads leading to the city of 12 million people were blocked, and the rail network was crippled. Scores of callers to local radio station el-Shinta reported they were trapped in their houses.

Sunardi, from the National Coordination Agency for Disaster Relief, said that five people had died, having been either electrocuted or drowned, since Friday. More than 106,000 people had been made homeless, said Sunardi, who goes by a single name.

The homeless were staying with family or in mosques, schools and government buildings on higher ground, officials said.

Hendri, an official monitoring water levels at sluice gates on major rivers, said rains falling in the hills south of Jakarta could result in more flooding.

"We must be on guard. The weather is still our enemy here," Hendri said. "Those who live in flood prone areas, please seek refuge."

The country's meteorology department forecast more rains Saturday and over the next two weeks.

Seasonal rains cause flooding each year in Indonesia, including the capital, but Friday's were the worst since 2002, when waters washed into the presidential palace and the lobby of a five-star hotel.
© Associated Press 2007

Hello everyone,

If you are stuck because of the heavy rain or just feel lazy to go out, I can recommand a good delivery massage service that i tried a few weeks ago.

The service focus on good quality massage and all the girls, who are young are trained at Thai Massage either traditional or oily one. Either a HJ or a BJ is included at the end of the massage.

A two hour professional oil massage followed by an enthousiastic BBBJ (with CIM) was 450K Rp in the confort of your place.

Girl was thin, good looking, smiling and nice and highly skilled in massage.

The operator goes under the name of Don and can be reached on 0813 8526-1701.

Best

PS: this is not self promotion, i just want to highlight a honest and reliable service provider.

Haven't been in Jakarta since 2002. What ever happened to Diah on the 6th floor?

Thanks

I have noticed that as a result of the flooding, some of the usual talents are missing from the usual haunts.

But great tip on the 'order in' service - sounds easy and convienent!

I for one have not been to Kartika spa, am not even sure where it is, but am thinking about venturing out today to try to locate it... something about a lane way next to a swiss bakery, near the bus stop in Kota near Stadium nightclub?? I will search the forum for more definitive info but if someone has clear directions and want to PM me, please do so..

Yea BlokM last night was fairly quiet by usual standards - again due to the floods. same for Bats and CJs - altho there were still some nice girls at CJs.

Hooked up with a short chinese/indo hottie who was still hanging around at 3am a bit lost at CJs - ended up staying the night and only took a 300k taxi fare. Don't remember her name, and i think it may have been her 1st or 2nd time as she really enjoyed being pleased and got into it more and more, the more you gave to her.

Theres still talent out there if you are patient! Just treat the good ones nice! :o)

It's still open, and I went there this Sunday night - just a little bit of floods on the return.

Top Gun: nice decoration, and yes - quite a good band, although their English songs are not the best, they have a good Indonesian repertoire.

Food (US Filet Mignon) passable, drinks are good value.

There was a ratio of 3 girls per customer, so not too much but enough choice.
The service was friendly, although the waiter confonded beer and bill, but did not charge me the last beer.

I took a mini-girl called Rrrrrina (I like how they pronounce the "r" here), very charming and GF. I brought her to my hotel (Intercontinental Mid-Plaza: no security problem at all... good). Unfortunately, her undressed body shows the heritage of a baby despite her 20 years, but very hot and great attitude: she washed me in the showers from toes to hair, she is wet and like it.

Damage of 350K for ST: I guess I was too generous, but I liked her attitude as she did not count the money (I know, some of the old-timers will say that's a way too much, no wonder she was happy... ).

Hoping the rains will stop - 360,000 homeless people, this is great misfortune for them.

Hi Brudder,

nice lady indeed, very friendly and you should try her sister with no kid too

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

Ebowan

Hello friends,

Is there anyone know where can I find or view some photos of the Classic Spa, Sumo Spa or Malioboro Spa?

Any website or links?

Have fun in Jakarta

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]Damage of 350K for ST: I guess I was too generous, but I liked her attitude as she did not count the money (I know, some of the old-timers will say that's a way too much, no wonder she was happy... ).
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In my opinion that price is spot on the going rate, without ripping off the girl. After all, it's only AUD 50 or USD 40. If some lousy mean bastard pays 250K they're saving themselves 10 or 15 bucks. Well, congratulations! Hey, the girl's gotta eat...

Remember that ST in Jakarta means basically as long as you like (no buzzers ringing after 50 mins) in the comfort of your room for whatever you like, including french kissing (what P4P would give you that in the West?), BBBJ, CIM etc. Bloody good value and usually an attitude that is friendly and occasionally genuinely horny.

I usually give a girl 300K, and add 50K and tell her it's for a taxi. If you give her 350K together she'll likely ask for taxi money on top of that.

"Jakarta girls they really knock me out, they leave the West behind..." as the Beatles used to sing...

[QUOTE=Menteng]I'll give you an example. I've been performing what my good friend JAD2 calls "charity sex" for some time now. The women are housewives or widows that need a good fuck :D. They don't charge anything, but as said before in this forum, sex can't be free: I have to pay the hotelroom.
It started with one lonely housewife and now others and merry widows share my phonenumber. I have to tell you though, that the majority of women that present themselves are 5/10 and most of the time, being in the age-group of MILFS, rather chuby. But, they are real amateurs and very, very GFE.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's known as "selingkuh" - you can say a lot with one or two Indonesian words.....

So many Indonesian women are horny fuck-bunnies with very few hangups (and ALL in this category will give blowjobs without needing to be asked, in my experience). Not always with expert skill, but a bit of encouragement and experience can turn them into cocksuckers, first class.....

And, best of all (for us at least), so many Indonesian men are useless lovers of the "stick it in and cum" variety. The result is that you can get a reputation as Cassanova just by giving a woman what she deserves - an orgasm. One sweet little 30 year old who I've fucked regularly for 2 years told me she never really knew what an orgasm was until we started to meet. She said it just "felt nice" with her ex-husband when they fucked and she thought that that was it. Then she had the real thing....

The fields out there are VERY green.