Tropical Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2797444]Wow, no offense but you must be young or crazy. You shouldn't even go to tropical that girl may stick you. In terms of this girl, you didn't mess up, but you shouldn't go tobtropical now. In her mind you ripped her off. Its not safe. Seriously. Once you have a angry girl who feels stiffed out of that much money, I wouldn't feel safe in any bar besides Hong Kong. Well I wouldn't feel fully safe but it would be much more difficult for her to pull off a revenge plan, in Hong Kong. I had a girl I knew 2 yrs take my wallet from me sneakily I found on floor missing money. I asked her once for the money than let it go and left. There was no way to get it back without getting physical. We weren't even drinking in the bar she worked in, which must been her plan.[/QUOTE]If she is trying to scam people off she probably can set a gringo up just by telling some thugs to go after him after he gets out of the bar, specially if she sits with the guy, gets him drunk and even puts some drug in his drink.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2797444]Wow, no offense but you must be young or crazy. You shouldn't even go to tropical that girl may stick you. In terms of this girl, you didn't mess up, but you shouldn't go tobtropical now. In her mind you ripped her off. Its not safe. Seriously. Once you have a angry girl who feels stiffed out of that much money, I wouldn't feel safe in any bar besides Hong Kong. Well I wouldn't feel fully safe but it would be much more difficult for her to pull off a revenge plan, in Hong Kong. I had a girl I knew 2 yrs take my wallet from me sneakily I found on floor missing money. I asked her once for the money than let it go and left. There was no way to get it back without getting physical. We weren't even drinking in the bar she worked in, which must been her plan.[/QUOTE]I met Yamilet before. It's been years, but she seemed okay. On the other hand she didn't try to cut me up.

[QUOTE=PochoMonger;2798225]If she is trying to scam people off she probably can set a gringo up just by telling some thugs to go after him after he gets out of the bar, specially if she sits with the guy, gets him drunk and even puts some drug in his drink.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Guys need to remember not all these girls are lawyers and teachers void of criminal records. Some of them are street girls, deported from LOS angelles for gang stuff, a lot them seen, and been around alot of violence. I wouldn't want a a stripper in Baltimore "the block" thinking I ripped her off a few hundred dollars. And just the same I wouldn't want a girl in Zona Norte thinking the same. If a girl gives the green light on a dude there's an endless list of dudes within 100 feet of all these bars that will be choking you or worse within 30 seconds. There was a poster on here 2 weeks ago that annoyed a street girl with questions I believe it was. I think he even knew her, and all sudden everyone was trying to mug him for his backpack knock him out. That doesn't happen often, but he pissed the girl off, she let the guys on the street know, and they had that Green light to mug him or worse. They just waiting for word to attack is my point.

I went to the Tropical wet t shirt contest but quick side note, I posted in the Hong Kong thread that one of my HK girls bailed on me this past Monday but that she makes up for it on the few times that it's happened. She wanted me to return the following day but I told her no can do and that the soonest I could see her was on Thursday (yesterday). She told me to get a room for TLN so I reserved one at Rizo de Oro. She ended up staying with me for pretty much 24 hours, from the time I checked in at 3 pm on Thursday until I checked out at 1 pm on Friday. Around 8 pm or so she wanted to head down to Tropical to check out the wet t shirt contest, I could have cared less LOL. We grabbed a booth on the side with a good view of the main stage and were grinding and making out the entire time. Since she was in plain clothes I could sense all the guys around us wondering where the hell I pulled her from LOL. I didn't even notice but at some point there was a Tropical chick recording us with her phone and my girl grabbed a mesero and reported her, told him to make sure she deleted the video immediately.

The contest was alright I guess, there wasn't a lot of stunners but to their credit, most of the girls seemed fun and upbeat. They probably give better service than the spoiled girls in HK. My girl mentioned taking one of them up to my room for some fun but I was being a tight wad plus there wasn't really any girls that were turning me on anyway. We bailed about halfway through the contest since there were 16 girls in it apparently and the guy running it was doing a piss poor job of managing their allotted time. It probably went well past midnight. Everybody seemed to be having a good time though and the place was as packed as I've ever seen it.

Woke up the next day and my girl bought me breakfast. Says she's looking to move into a new place and we should live together. If I didn't have a mortgage maybe I would consider it LOL. I didn't have the heart to tell her no, so I said I would think about it and she seemed happy to even have me consider it. The idea of it seems cool but I'm sure it wouldn't be as fun as it sounds. I'm already in too deep with this girl as it is.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2801151]I went to the Tropical wet t shirt contest but quick side note, I posted in the Hong Kong thread that one of my HK girls bailed on me this past Monday but that she makes up for it on the few times that it's happened. She wanted me to return the following day but I told her no can do and that the soonest I could see her was on Thursday (yesterday). She told me to get a room for TLN so I reserved one at Rizo de Oro. She ended up staying with me for pretty much 24 hours, from the time I checked in at 3 pm on Thursday until I checked out at 1 pm on Friday. Around 8 pm or so she wanted to head down to Tropical to check out the wet t shirt contest, I could have cared less LOL. We grabbed a booth on the side with a good view of the main stage and were grinding and making out the entire time. Since she was in plain clothes I could sense all the guys around us wondering where the hell I pulled her from LOL. I didn't even notice but at some point there was a Tropical chick recording us with her phone and my girl grabbed a mesero and reported her, told him to make sure she deleted the video immediately.

The contest was alright I guess, there wasn't a lot of stunners but to their credit, most of the girls seemed fun and upbeat. They probably give better service than the spoiled girls in HK. My girl mentioned taking one of them up to my room for some fun but I was being a tight wad plus there wasn't really any girls that were turning me on anyway. We bailed about halfway through the contest since there were 16 girls in it apparently and the guy running it was doing a piss poor job of managing their allotted time. It probably went well past midnight. Everybody seemed to be having a good time though and the place was as packed as I've ever seen it.

Woke up the next day and my girl bought me breakfast. Says she's looking to move into a new place and we should live together. If I didn't have a mortgage maybe I would consider it LOL. I didn't have the heart to tell her no, so I said I would think about it and she seemed happy to even have me consider it. The idea of it seems cool but I'm sure it wouldn't be as fun as it sounds. I'm already in too deep with this girl as it is.[/QUOTE]So you didn't mention a price paid to the girl so I assume she didn't charge you since if remember correctly she has decided e with you in the past. So she spends all that time with her for nothing and you can't even buy the girl breakfast? Maybe it's me but knowing what she does for a living I myself would feel disgusted, I guess in my mind I see it as dirty money. For her it's fine she was the one that earned it but I just would never let a working girl buy me anything.

You seem to be leading this girl and I hope it's not just because of the free sex. I think you could still move to Tijuana if you really wanted to you'd just have to rent your place out but I'd imagine you could rent it for more than what you pay in mortgage.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad or say your a bad guy, I usually enjoy your posts, just seems like your getting involved with more drama with some of these girls than it's worth.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2801340]So you didn't mention a price paid to the girl so I assume she didn't charge you since if remember correctly she has decided e with you in the past. So she spends all that time with her for nothing and you can't even buy the girl breakfast? Maybe it's me but knowing what she does for a living I myself would feel disgusted, I guess in my mind I see it as dirty money. For her it's fine she was the one that earned it but I just would never let a working girl buy me anything.

You seem to be leading this girl and I hope it's not just because of the free sex. I think you could still move to Tijuana if you really wanted to you'd just have to rent your place out but I'd imagine you could rent it for more than what you pay in mortgage.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad or say your a bad guy, I usually enjoy your posts, just seems like your getting involved with more drama with some of these girls than it's worth.[/QUOTE]
I was fully expecting to pay for the meal. She left for 30 minutes in the morning to check on her friend who was staying around the block at a chica hotel because another friend had told her she got super wasted and dropped off at her room the night before and hadn't been heard from since. When she returned she already had the food with her so we could eat in the room. We had talked about going to a restaurant nearby and she was the one who chose to surprise me.

I didn't mention a price because it's irrelevant. It's not what she would charge or expect from anybody else. Aside from the first time we met we have never discussed a price on anything, ever. Sometimes I give her money, sometimes I don't. I have said this in the past. In the end it ends up pretty much evening out anyway. We have known each other for a while, pretty sure she would have stopped dealing with me if she didn't like our situation. She has cut off other clients for much less.

I already stated at this point I'm in too deep with her. At the same time I am transparent and honest about my feelings towards her. I already told her she will probably end up resenting me but she says she won't. I have also withheld some information about us for her privacy and anonymity. I think eventually she will develop feelings for someone else and will grow somewhat distant of me and I have come to terms with that possibility since I dont make myself emotionally available to her in the way she would like me to be. As long as I can see her every now and then I'm fine with it. For now I'm just enjoying the ride until it stops being fun.

But yes, as I have told a couple of you offline, the mindset of pumping and dumping is definitely the way to go. Learn from me and others. This is what we share our experiences for.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2801371]I didn't mention a price because it's irrelevant. It's not what she would charge or expect from anybody else. Aside from the first time we met we have never discussed a price on anything, ever. Sometimes I give her money, sometimes I don't. I have said this in the past. In the end it ends up pretty much evening out anyway. We have known each other for a while, pretty sure she would have stopped dealing with me if she didn't like our situation. She has cut off other clients for much less.

I already stated at this point I'm in too deep with her. At the same time I am transparent and honest about my feelings towards her. I already told her she will probably end up resenting me but she says she won't. I have also withheld some information about us for her privacy and anonymity. I think eventually she will develop feelings for someone else and will grow somewhat distant of me and I have come to terms with that possibility since I dont make myself emotionally available to her in the way she would like me to be. As long as I can see her every now and then I'm fine with it. For now I'm just enjoying the ride until it stops being fun.

But yes, as I have told a couple of you offline, the mindset of pumping and dumping is definitely the way to go. Learn from me and others. This is what we share our experiences for.[/QUOTE]It is best to keep things private. I've met many working girls that never explicitly asked for help, but I just gave what I could or felt would be sufficient. I guess it makes them feel less like client work compared to openly charging you normal rates. They genuinely enjoy spending time with you and sometimes pay for meals or even buy occasional gifts. Ive never turned down a gift as it would really look bad and make them lose face. Ive received clothing, gold pendants, and misc. other things in my travels. Hobby is very YMMV and it is best to be honest with your intentions. As you've said, ride it til the wheels fall off, but I imagine she is working the long game with you. I'd be surprised if she keeps trying to maintain the situationship when you decide not to move in together. Eventually they get tired that their efforts aren’t going anywhere and revert back to their life.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2801340]Maybe it's me but knowing what she does for a living I myself would feel disgusted, I guess in my mind I see it as dirty money. For her it's fine she was the one that earned it but I just would never let a working girl buy me anything.

You seem to be leading this girl and I hope it's not just because of the free sex. I think you could still move to Tijuana if you really wanted to you'd just have to rent your place out but I'd imagine you could rent it for more than what you pay in mortgage.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad or say your a bad guy, I usually enjoy your posts, just seems like your getting involved with more drama with some of these girls than it's worth.[/QUOTE]Sometimes they like to surprise you and want to feel like it is a normal relationship. Some have a lot of pride and want to show they are putting in effort and appreciation either through cooking a meal, paying for lunch or dinner, or even buying a gift. It would be rude of him to turn down thoughtful offerings. I also sometimes view it as dirty money, but the difference is they are working out of their own free will and it is a legal profession in Mexico.

Also rent in Tijuana isn't that expensive, but depends on where you want to live and also what type of furnishings you plan to buy. I've heard from a chica that they can make all the money in the world, but be unhappy and if she genuinely enjoys time with you, then probably makes her day worth it when she gets off shift with him being home. As long as they are honest that it is just for fun and no potential for more, then I’d say go for it.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2801371]I was fully expecting to pay for the meal. She left for 30 minutes in the morning to check on her friend who was staying around the block at a chica hotel because another friend had told her she got super wasted and dropped off at her room the night before and hadn't been heard from since. When she returned she already had the food with her so we could eat in the room. We had talked about going to a restaurant nearby and she was the one who chose to surprise me.

I didn't mention a price because it's irrelevant. It's not what she would charge or expect from anybody else. Aside from the first time we met we have never discussed a price on anything, ever. Sometimes I give her money, sometimes I don't. I have said this in the past. In the end it ends up pretty much evening out anyway. We have known each other for a while, pretty sure she would have stopped dealing with me if she didn't like our situation. She has cut off other clients for much less.

I already stated at this point I'm in too deep with her. At the same time I am transparent and honest about my feelings towards her. I already told her she will probably end up resenting me but she says she won't. I have also withheld some information about us for her privacy and anonymity. I think eventually she will develop feelings for someone else and will grow somewhat distant of me and I have come to terms with that possibility since I dont make myself emotionally available to her in the way she would like me to be. As long as I can see her every now and then I'm fine with it. For now I'm just enjoying the ride until it stops being fun.

But yes, as I have told a couple of you offline, the mindset of pumping and dumping is definitely the way to go. Learn from me and others. This is what we share our experiences for.[/QUOTE]Well I'm a vey old fashioned guy and don't believe in women paying for me when we go out to eat. Even with friends in the US I have this policy. One of the things I like about Mexico is the fact that they still believe in some of these old values. I do agree that weather you paid for her time or not is irrelevant, I also agree that what a girl does with you for what ever you decide to pay shouldn't matter because with the girls it's YMMV. That's why I don't post info on this board, I don't want guys to think because some girl does x with me for x price that she will be that way with everyone.

Now I do have a tendency to over analyze things so when reading your post the thing that jumped out to me was that you made it a point to say she bought you breakfast. So maybe I was wrong in thinking that you were bragging about that and I just didn't think it was the gentleman thing to do, so I just commented that you should of paid for it. Now with your explanation I understand more and it was a very nice thought on her part but I think if it was me I would of told her I appreciate the thought, but told her she works to hard for her money and it's important to me as a man to treat her like a woman and give her the money for the food.

In regards to you and her that's between the two of you, I understand that what you have shared on this board is a very small amount which is very smart on your part. I just read what you have written and you seem to be a very nice guy that just has trouble being completely honest with the girls at times because you don't want to hurt their feelings. So maybe you truly are considering moving in with this girl like you told her but then you write that you are too deep and don't really want to take the next step with her. But like I said maybe it's just me over analyzing things.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2801400]Sometimes they like to surprise you and want to feel like it is a normal relationship. Some have a lot of pride and want to show they are putting in effort and appreciation either through cooking a meal, paying for lunch or dinner, or even buying a gift. It would be rude of him to turn down thoughtful offerings. I also sometimes view it as dirty money, but the difference is they are working out of their own free will and it is a legal profession in Mexico.

Also rent in Tijuana isn't that expensive, but depends on where you want to live and also what type of furnishings you plan to buy. I've heard from a chica that they can make all the money in the world, but be unhappy and if she genuinely enjoys time with you, then probably makes her day worth it when she gets off shift with him being home. As long as they are honest that it is just for fun and no potential for more, then Id say go for it.[/QUOTE]Yes it's hard to turn down a gift or if they offer to cook for you. I think in those situations you are either more involved and you might be giving them an allowance or something and you could justify it's your money paying for those items and not the guy that she was with the previous night. We all justify things in our minds to make it acceptable, I would be invited to another couples house for dinner and they both made money in illegal activities. I couldn't not eat the food since it would be disrespectful but I would try to avoid it as much as possible. The money is only dirty in my mind because I wasn't the one who did anything for it. I agree to the girl it's just money and they didn't do anything wrong. I just think when that money is spent on me I don't like it and I am just as bad as some pimp taking her money. I don't expect everyone to have the same views as me.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2801398]It is best to keep things private. I've met many working girls that never explicitly asked for help, but I just gave what I could or felt would be sufficient. I guess it makes them feel less like client work compared to openly charging you normal rates. They genuinely enjoy spending time with you and sometimes pay for meals or even buy occasional gifts. Ive never turned down a gift as it would really look bad and make them lose face. Ive received clothing, gold pendants, and misc. other things in my travels. Hobby is very YMMV and it is best to be honest with your intentions. As you've said, ride it til the wheels fall off, but I imagine she is working the long game with you. I'd be surprised if she keeps trying to maintain the situationship when you decide not to move in together. Eventually they get tired that their efforts arent going anywhere and revert back to their life.[/QUOTE]I don't think she'll get pissed about me not wanting to move in with her, I think it's more wishful thinking on her part. She has already said if I don't want to end up getting a place together that she will most likely get one with one of the girls at the club. They have already talked about it and supposedly the only guys who will be allowed to visit will be her friend's boyfriend and me. Whether this actually ends up happening who the fuck knows. I try to take most things she tells me with a grain of salt as most things with these girls are "subject to change" LOL.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2802073]Well I'm a vey old fashioned guy and don't believe in women paying for me when we go out to eat. Even with friends in the US I have this policy. One of the things I like about Mexico is the fact that they still believe in some of these old values. I do agree that weather you paid for her time or not is irrelevant, I also agree that what a girl does with you for what ever you decide to pay shouldn't matter because with the girls it's YMMV. That's why I don't post info on this board, I don't want guys to think because some girl does x with me for x price that she will be that way with everyone.

Now I do have a tendency to over analyze things so when reading your post the thing that jumped out to me was that you made it a point to say she bought you breakfast. So maybe I was wrong in thinking that you were bragging about that and I just didn't think it was the gentleman thing to do, so I just commented that you should of paid for it. Now with your explanation I understand more and it was a very nice thought on her part but I think if it was me I would of told her I appreciate the thought, but told her she works to hard for her money and it's important to me as a man to treat her like a woman and give her the money for the food.

In regards to you and her that's between the two of you, I understand that what you have shared on this board is a very small amount which is very smart on your part. I just read what you have written and you seem to be a very nice guy that just has trouble being completely honest with the girls at times because you don't want to hurt their feelings. So maybe you truly are considering moving in with this girl like you told her but then you write that you are too deep and don't really want to take the next step with her. But like I said maybe it's just me over analyzing things.[/QUOTE]I could see how perhaps you thought I was bragging about the breakfast part but it wasn't my intention at all. It's just what ended up happening. In hindsight I could have said we just ended up having breakfast and left it at that. If I wanted to brag that's the last thing I would think of to do so. A lot of times we see guys on here claiming that these girls are only out for themselves and give nothing but lazy CFS sessions, scamming guys out of money, when there are still a lot of nice and fun girls out there, you just have to find them. It's definitely YMMV in some cases. Some will click with you better than others. When you find a good one treat her well and you will reap the rewards.

As far as the other stuff goes, I was telling a couple other guys that from now on I am going to start telling these girls I am married, even though I'm not, so that they feel like a serious relationship can not come into fruition. Because even if you're single and tell them you don't want anything serious they will still start to develop feelings for you in some cases. Not that's it's very common but it's just best to avoid all that stuff. Time and time again we have learned jumping into something serious with these girls never ends well and will leave you broke and depressed. Ideally you would like to pump and dump but if you hit the jackpot and happen to find a girl who provides GFE or PSE who the hell is going to realistically pump and dump that? You ride that wave until the very end, my friends.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2802442]I don't think she'll get pissed about me not wanting to move in with her, I think it's more wishful thinking on her part. She has already said if I don't want to end up getting a place together that she will most likely get one with one of the girls at the club. They have already talked about it and supposedly the only guys who will be allowed to visit will be her friend's boyfriend and me. Whether this actually ends up happening who the fuck knows. I try to take most things she tells me with a grain of salt as most things with these girls are "subject to change" LOL.

I could see how perhaps you thought I was bragging about the breakfast part but it wasn't my intention at all. It's just what ended up happening. In hindsight I could have said we just ended up having breakfast and left it at that. If I wanted to brag that's the last thing I would think of to do so. A lot of times we see guys on here claiming that these girls are only out for themselves and give nothing but lazy CFS sessions, scamming guys out of money, when there are still a lot of nice and fun girls out there, you just have to find them. It's definitely YMMV in some cases. Some will click with you better than others. When you find a good one treat her well and you will reap the rewards.

As far as the other stuff goes, I was telling a couple other guys that from now on I am going to start telling these girls I am married, even though I'm not, so that they feel like a serious relationship can not come into fruition. Because even if you're single and tell them you don't want anything serious they will still start to develop feelings for you in some cases. Not that's it's very common but it's just best to avoid all that stuff. Time and time again we have learned jumping into something serious with these girls never ends well and will leave you broke and depressed. Ideally you would like to pump and dump but if you hit the jackpot and happen to find a girl who provides GFE or PSE who the hell is going to realistically pump and dump that? You ride that wave until the very end, my friends.[/QUOTE]Unless a working girl quits the business forever and settles down with you it won't work out. Even then when she is low on money the addiction of easy money always looms in her mind. I am no Don Juan but my past relationships with working. Girls never worked out even when they quit the work. Like Luke Powell says " you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl." Be safe fellas.

[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2802571]Unless a working girl quits the business forever and settles down with you it won't work out. Even then when she is low on money the addiction of easy money always looms in her mind. I am no Don Juan but my past relationships with working. Girls never worked out even when they quit the work. Like Luke Powell says " you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl." Be safe fellas.[/QUOTE]Better to just find a civilian girl and not have to worry about all that stuff. Dating in 2023 can already be stressful as it is LOL.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2803042]Better to just find a civilian girl and not have to worry about all that stuff. Dating in 2023 can already be stressful as it is LOL.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. Almost impossible to develop a normal relationship with a working girl in Tijuana unless you're willing to make a TON of sacrifices. I've tried and learned the hard way. I developed a strong and very close relationship with a working HK girl. But deep down I knew I could never do anything long term and that at some point we would have a nasty break up be / see I wasn't willing to cement it into a formal public relationship like a marriage or something be / see I saw a lot of potential problems of marrying a Tijuana hooker (many ramifications socially, professionally, etc). I also began to feel quite uncomfortable being in public with her out of fear that I'd bump into people I knew or knowing that all the mexican people around us in normal locations knew that it was odd to see an ugly bloke like me with a super hot woman that was clearly out of my league to the point that I wouldn't be surpirsed if people thought I was carrying around an escort. The biggest setback to maintaining anything longterm with a working girl is the cost; I was hemorrhaging so much money be / see she expected financial support for her kids, family and all her monthly expenses. That was not sustainable to me. It was a financial hemorrhage that was a very stupid thing to do in retrospect. YOu may find a good working girl like the one I was in a relationship with, but their warped sense of reality and financial expecations are unreasonable and they carry a lot of baggage and drama. As I diminshed the amount of money I was giving, she immediately went back to the club again. The interesting thing is that I was still giving her money while she was back in the club, so I was TRULY a retard for still letting the relationship continue while she was back to sucking 20 hairy dicks a day.

[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2802571]Unless a working girl quits the business forever and settles down with you it won't work out. Even then when she is low on money the addiction of easy money always looms in her mind. I am no Don Juan but my past relationships with working. Girls never worked out even when they quit the work. Like Luke Powell says " you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl." Be safe fellas.[/QUOTE]The easy money is a survival instinct that switches on when money runs low. Hopefully they have legitimate reasons like family instead of feeding an addiction or material things. They need to be able to make the decision to stop work, but also have a plan to replace the income that they can reasonably stay within budget. Dating a working girl is definitely not for the faint of heart as one person said, they didn't meet in church.