Guadalajara

[QUOTE=Sockboy50;2071099]Also need good affordable monger friendly hotel referal.[/QUOTE]If you RTFF, as Juan Carter suggests, you'll discover that a lot of chicas in Guadalajara, especially those working with agencies, won't visit you at your hotel. With those girls, you'll have to have your sessions at one of the many love motels located throughout the city.

[QUOTE=JuanCarter;2071334]-Most of the reviews in this thread are of independents. There are also casitas and esteticas masculinas. RTFF.

-Discos? Try La Victoria and La Condesa in the 9 Escinas area. These cantinas have ficheras with a "salida" fee or wait for closing or set up a daytime date. There are some less safe "dance clubs" surrounding the intersection of Priciliano Sanches and Maestranza with lesser costs and lesser quaity girl.

-I have taken girls to the Portobelo near metro Juarez and Hotel San Francisco Plaza. If your girl isn't inappropriately dressed for the time of day and is reasonably discreet, you should have no problem anywhere if you escort her through the lobby to your room.[/QUOTE]Yeah but the ficheras from Victoria will only go with you if they like you. I went there twice and wasn't able to pull anything, they all said "no salidas".

[QUOTE=NutJob;2075501]Yeah but the ficheras from Victoria will only go with you if they like you. I went there twice and wasn't able to pull anything, they all said "no salidas".[/QUOTE]I'll be in Guadalajara the first week in September. I'll chat them up if you'll dance them. I have had better luck at La Condesa. Las Victorianas are younger, better looking but maybe more mamona (full of themselves). Two of two visits I have had next day dates with condesitas but only because I am too cheap to pay the salida and too old to stay up until closing time. There is a very aggressive English speaking fichera at the Barecito (or the place next door?) on Calle Prisciliano Sanchez. DM me if you want to meet up for a drink.

A feature dancer at clubs and swinger events, she also has an [URL]xvideo.com[/URL] profile and videos under her alter ego Andrea Neri. $1000 an hour. $1500 for two. DFKs BBBJ See prior reviews below.

[QUOTE=NutJob;2075501]Yeah but the ficheras from Victoria will only go with you if they like you. I went there twice and wasn't able to pull anything, they all said "no salidas".[/QUOTE]The first two on at Nueve Escinas, on Colon, El Tobago is on Prisciliano Sanchez, just before Maestranza. La Vic is a little more expensive and with much prettier girls, La Condesa a step down in price and quality and El Tobago at the lower end. Your beer is $45 pesos at La Condesa and 90 for the chica, unless she is a mamona like Aylin who ordered the $165 tequila. Especially if you dance and have hopes for a "semi pro", these are nice places for drinks and company. I forget the salida fees, La Condesa is perhaps $500.

Aylin at La Victoria was a tiny, young spinner. The photo below, red blouse, is from her WhatsApp profile before she blocked me. We had two or three drinks, she promised a date the next afternoon for $1500 but blocked me when I called.

La Condesa The two fotos are of Karlita. One from her WhatsApp, one in my room. We had a few drinks on a Thursday night. She promised to visit my hotel after midnight for $1,000 pesos. A cute woman who gave good service BBBJ, DFK and cared nothing about the clock. We finished a small bottle of tequila before she left at 3. For $1,000 pesos, Connie Garcia is, of course, better value but Karlita was a very pleasant way to spend an evening. This was my third visit to La Condesa and third successful visit for a date.

El Tabago There were some very nice girls there Friday night but I had just dated Daisy and didn't even try. Not much happening here on Wednesday or Thursday.

I found her on the SexxxyProvincia. The best thing about Daisy is her tits. Secondly, she visits almost weekly for two or three days and you save a hotel bill to see her at her digs, the Motel Loma Linda. Her cost was $1,000 pesos an hour with BBBJ, positions and pecks for kisses. Her service was okay and she speaks a bit of English. Hands down, Connie Garcia is the better value. For the same price, Connie comes to my hotel room and gives pornstar quality service.

If you go to La Victoria, watch out for the fechas. The ownership asked their girls to squeeze out you as much as they can and the maseros keep bothering you for drinks. As soon as you sit down, they will try to push a girl on you. Yes, girls here are prettier than La Condensa, but you will end up spending a lot more for the drinks if you are not careful. . They don't allow their girls to leave early either even if you pay for the salidas, at least when I was there, not until they close. You could be $200-300 Dollars out for drinks already by then. When you ask for the check, they will simply hand you a hand written bill, and they cheat on the # of drinks you or your chicas consumed. This place is only good for you to build contacts and meet the girls outside. When I asked my girl her #, she had to watch around, and make sure the maseros or management were not watching.

La Condensa has a lot more relax atmosphere and a lot cheaper charges. They don't push you for drinks, but girls are a few notches below girls in La Victoria. When I went there around 1 AM a few months back, there were only 5-6 gorditas, and nothing above 5. I did see a couple 6's-6. 5's on other days when I passed by, but it is a hit or miss place I think.

Well, I am back to GDL after 3 weeks in SE Asia. What a ride that was. Anyway, I had scheduled a late meeting with an independent as her post says she does late night. 1130 pm was the time then she contacts me at 720 pm that she cannot give service tonight. We have all experienced this. It is just part of the hobby. I am flying into GDL so cannot see the post until I land by then its to late to reschedule with another independent so I contact Tapis Calis to see what they have. Last minute dates are really a hit or miss and for me its usually a miss. From the list I was sent I asked for Dayana. She arrives for a 2 hour date at 1900, She is very young and kinda shy currently with red dye hair. Says she 18 with one small child. Did not breast feed so her small tatas are not damaged. She has a few tattoos nothing major and an appendix and birth scar. Nothing drastic. She is petite and has nice meaty vajaja lips. DATY was nice. She could not understand my Spanish to well so communication was difficult. She gives BBBJ and has some skill. Nice and slow with real sucking action rather than just moving her mouth up and down. She felt good and did the service. I was tired from two delayed flights so really spent like 12 hrs in airports and planes. After my first pop I sent her home so I could get some sleep. I would not repeat but she gave good service for last minute selection. Website photos.

GF

GOLFO DE CORTEZ 2876-be.

Just a few blocks from Glorieta de La Minerva.

Ok, today did not start out well. I was waiting in a motel for a date that never showed. I understand we all have emergencies but a simple msg would be the minimum expected. After some time I realized the date would not happen so started contacting others independents. No one on my list was answering or were in their red days. Tried Paramour agency but the girls he had do not allow DATY. When I have a sweet young vagina in front of me I want to feed. Am I wrong. Anyway, felt this day was destined to be a estetica type of day so left the motel and headed to Eduars. Nice and big facility with several options for rooms. I chose the big room with bed, and Jacuzzi-pool for 1900 an hour. You get one pop and a really large party room with bed, stripper pole, pool, Jacuzzi and sala with aircon. I could see myself with the right girl spending hours here in the nighttime and enjoying the heated pool (because it is a jacuzzi too). I was early like 3 pm and had choice of the day shift. Several nice girls to chose from mostly 7's to 8's for me. When I left the next shift was in and many more prettier ones had shown up. I think best to get there around 4 to 5 pm to see the whole squad. I chose the oldest one there, MILF type I wanted a woman's full figure body at the time. I'm lucky my taste changes from day to day so I can enjoy a larger pool of women. She did her job well and you get the typical estetica treatment. Forgot her name already. Lorena who has been recommended on this on the local forum was not in the lineup. This place is one of the better spa locations for the city so check it out.

GF.

Oh my Golly! I expected just to go Wednesday to see a lesbian show, which alone was worth the $250 peso price of admission. I had never been to a swinger club before and was mystified that there was no interaction at all between the couples in the bar / show area. After the show, which featured gorgeous young girls, everyone went to the "play room" where couples began making out. There were perhaps eight couples and eight or ten single guys. In one corner a very nice looking woman in her mid 30's with natural tits began sucking her husband / date's dick and single guys began to line up for what I later found was a gangbang. Her husband was monstrously big, like 6 ft and 250 lbs and was seemingly pleased to share her. I had been attracted to her earlier but that guy would have scared you off too and I wasn't about to break the code of silence. She sucked each in turn, then did doggy style while she sucked the next in line or her date while being banged. She must have done six before I left. This was not advertised as a gangbang night. When I finished with her, another woman was doing two guys on the big bed. Three other girls were still in the kissing / groping stage on the couches and more pinned against the walls. The show girls did not participate, they left immediately following the show.

I got there too early, at 11:00 and had two tequilas before the midnight show at $120 pesos each. I tipped the waiter $30 pesos each time. Just before the show he brought over Wendy to sit and cuddle with me. Her drink must have been $200 pesos as our drinks combined were $350 with tip. After the show, Wendy offered to fuck me with oral natural in the play room for $500 pesos but I declined and began to leave when I saw that the entire bar area was moving to the Play Room, that is when the above happened. Wendy wasn't all that attractive and I didn't see her in the Play Room. My total cost was $900 pesos. As I left at 2 am another very attractive young couple was entering.

This was my first gangbang-swinger experience. What suprised me is that there was no interaction between the couples in the bar area and there was no talking at all in the play room, just sucking and fucking. Wednesday is the only single guy night. Avenida de la Paz #1166.

Twitter at tentacionesGDL.

1900 dos horas.

I am not having a good week. Second day in a row I was left "plantada" and again with no msg. So again I call around trying to find backup and remembered I wanted to try a girl from this twitter page. So I dialed them up and requested Marlene. She is a delgada, petite type and is what I was looking for today. We meet at Calif. Courts as I was already there for my previous no show. She is pretty, girl next door look, long straight hair like in her photos. We talk a bit and she gets undressed. Only issue with the body would be the deflated tits from nursing her only child. Other than that she has nice behind and soft skin. I start with DATY and she moans alot, maybe fake, I was not sure. I move onto the bed to have her begin BJ service and it is covered and well executed. I was ready to get into her box and move her to standing missionary. Nice tight box and soft legs to enjoy. I was really enjoying myself. Turned her over and this little bubble behind is were I really began to lose it. Its soft but firm and looks good visually and feels good in your hands. I finish and shower, she is still napping so left her in the room to rest up. Not bad for an emergency fill in. I still rather have my first choice that I have organized for a day and half. This trip so far is the worst yet in all my trips in GDL for cancellations. 3 days in a row must be some kind of record. Anyway, the agency has some nice girls to choose from and may try again in future. They stated I would get a discount as a repeat customer. Attached are pics I was sent via whatsapp.

GF.

Wow, totally different from my experience there. It is not your typical swinger experience. Everyone is fully clothed for one thing. I've seen the lesbian show and its a good way to view the girls available from the Bouquet agency. Nothing at all happened afterwards when I was there. They must have stepped it up a few notches. I will check it out next time I'm there.

[QUOTE=JuanCarter;2088670]Oh my Golly! I expected just to go Wednesday to see a lesbian show, which alone was worth the $250 peso price of admission. I had never been to a swinger club before and was mystified that there was no interaction at all between the couples in the bar / show area. After the show, which featured gorgeous young girls, everyone went to the "play room" where couples began making out. There were perhaps eight couples and eight or ten single guys. In one corner a very nice looking woman in her mid 30's with natural tits began sucking her husband / date's dick and single guys began to line up for what I later found was a gangbang. Her husband was monstrously big, like 6 ft and 250 lbs and was seemingly pleased to share her. I had been attracted to her earlier but that guy would have scared you off too and I wasn't about to break the code of silence. She sucked each in turn, then did doggy style while she sucked the next in line or her date while being banged. She must have done six before I left. This was not advertised as a gangbang night. When I finished with her, another woman was doing two guys on the big bed. Three other girls were still in the kissing / groping stage on the couches and more pinned against the walls. The show girls did not participate, they left immediately following the show.
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1200 hour and one pop per hour.

I have had a crappy week with independents this trip. 3 cancellations with 2 of those no shows, a rare event for me in GDL. I hope this is the worst it ever gets for me. Staying with agency chicas I decided to try the new one posted in the local forum called Black List. I could not find any reviews so far on this agency so decided to take one for the team. This week has been more or less a bust anyway. Ordered Valeria for a morning fling. She is very friendly and pretty face to me a solid 7. The body has seen some baby damage after 3 ninos. The tits and stomach have pretty bad stretch marks. The pics they have are of earlier times or really photo-shopped. She was pretty to me so concentrated mostly on her face. She gives good covered BJ and ready to give a massage but I rather just get to the sex. Did some DATY and she tasted great and has nice labias to suck on. Finished in missionary, nothing spectacular but did the service well. Talking some she stated the girls are from estiticas Alex and Men's Paradise. So perhaps better to visit those places and see the girls first before choosing one for outcall. Interesting idea for these places to look for not just walk in clients but also web based clients. She says she does alot of outcall as well. If your like me and prefer a bed this might be a good option for estitica chicas.

GF.

Just noticed that the same pics you posted for Marlene at TentacionesGDL are listed as "Vanessa" on the Tapatias Calientes website and posted four days as this on ago on their Instagram. But there the rate is 2300 for two hours. There are pics from two days ago on Tentaciones twitter from two days ago. So either she's VERY recently changed, or you just lucked into the discounted half of her split identity.

Yes, alot of these "independents" are listed with agencies as well or on twitter, etc. They have to pay the agency a cut so its often cheaper to find them and hire them as independents. Alot of times they do not want to give out thier personal numbers so they go through a middle man. Which of course means they give up some of the pay. Good catch on the pics and it would be smart to do a google image search for a girl you like just to see if they are listed elsewhere cheaper.

GF.