Kyiv

[QUOTE=Kirch;1555397]I'm curious if the strip clubs like Rio adapted their fees for the girls. If it is still 2, 300 Griwna, then it would be around EUR 130! (around EUR 220 3 months ago). So for one hour 40 Euros. Unbelivable if it is like that. Let's see.[/QUOTE]Can this be true? Or am I missing something?

At Gia, a girl named Alisa, for example, costs 250 dollars for the first hour.

But if you convert the page into Russian by clicking the upper left button, it shows she costs 2000 hryvnia, which is about 150 dollars now.

Wasn't 2000 hryvnia about 250 dollars before the trouble began in Ukaraine last November? This means Gia has not changed the fees either for Russian or English speaking customers since November.

250 dollars is now about 3200 hryvnia. They are making more money out of us now than 6 months ago!

So what if we insist we pay only 2000 hryvnia and not 250 dollars?

[QUOTE=LifeSavour; 1555282]How?

They just do it. They "get it done".

2000. My 1st trip. Salaries were $75. And WE went shopping. Shit cost $200!

Go figure. They value looking "klasna"

Luv the UKR devushka![/QUOTE]Some of them dose, while many looks kind of cheap. There is not much not too like about EE dievs my friend.

And if to talk about "klasna", lets hope this will last for many years too come.

Hi,

Will go to Kiev for a few days soon. My fist trip to Kiev. Need some advice and tips.

Have been talking with some girls on Mamba. I wonder where is the best paces to meet them?

Will be staying at Hotel Ukraine.

Thanks,

B

[QUOTE=TexasMorrell;1555277]Probably should have clarified. Some clubs closed and others have cut back on operating hours. I get all my info from Mamba girls so cannot confirm but its their city so I believe them. Best to get it from the source though.[/QUOTE]Hello,

It's my first trip to KIev, and have had some conntact with girls on Mamba. Wonder where is the most suitable places to meet them?

B

At Gia they have some discounts. There is one right now who takes 4.000 griwna for 8 hours. Around EUR 250. Good deal. Problem is the exchange rate has gone worse the last two days. Two days ago it would have been EUR 200 for 8 hours only. Grrrrrr.

[QUOTE=Shevchenko; 1555749]Can this be true? Or am I missing something?

At Gia, a girl named Alisa, for example, costs 250 dollars for the first hour.

But if you convert the page into Russian by clicking the upper left button, it shows she costs 2000 hryvnia, which is about 150 dollars now.

Wasn't 2000 hryvnia about 250 dollars before the trouble began in Ukaraine last November? This means Gia has not changed the fees either for Russian or English speaking customers since November.

250 dollars is now about 3200 hryvnia. They are making more money out of us now than 6 months ago!

So what if we insist we pay only 2000 hryvnia and not 250 dollars?[/QUOTE]

It's always better to be careful with rumours like you spread here. Mandarin, Rio, Buddha Bar, Delux, etc. Are all open! I'm here and can confirm. May be it's just a strategy from the girls you know to tell you they are all closed, so you stay at home with them. Just kidding.

[QUOTE=TexasMorrell;1554875]Partner if you want to come to Kiev then come. I am here now and the people are as nice as they have always been. Maybe even more so. I was walking with my woman up and down Kreshatik all day with no problems. There are tire barricades and stacks of bricks pulled from the sidewalks ready to be thrown if needed. But it is all nice and orderly. There are military style tents neatly lined up in the middle of the street and porta potties in designated areas. I was really surprised how organized and calm it is. I was not concerned at all. In fact there are places in America that are far more scary than Kiev is. FYI I got a list of the closed clubs in Kiev today. Most are gone now. Mandarin, Budda, Deluxe, all the big names are gone. The tourists and the local riche are all gone. Mamba is the way to go if you want girls. Many many girls looking for sponsors now. It took me less than an hour to get 10 girls lined up. At one point I was talking with 4 girls at once on Mamba and could not keep up. And these are not pros either. They are college girls needing financial assistance. So I would recommend anyone who wants to come, to come and help them out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Banditt864; 1555945]Hello,

It's my first trip to KIev, and have had some conntact with girls on Mamba. Wonder where is the most suitable places to meet them?

B[/QUOTE]There is no particular place to meet Mamba girls. Just contact them on Mamba and negotiate the rate. Be direct and don't beat around the Bush. Very first question I ask is "looking for a sponsor?" They either say yes or no or don't respond. If they say yes then set the deal. $50 and sushi gets the job done for me. Some guys might be a little more or less. They are all different but they are very eager right now so bid with confidence.

My first Night out in Kiev and some increased the prices due to the exchange rate and some not. For instance taxi rides, drinks, etc. In some locations increased. But I was very disappointed of Rio tonight. 3 hours is 3.000 Griwna now. Not anymore 2.300 Griwna. Some of the hot girls even want to have 3.000 Griwna for two hours instead of thee hours. Strange is that at my Hotel (Fairmont) they didn't increase and everything is cheaper due to the good exchange rate. But this exchange rate today decrease, so prices inceased today again.

Another bad information is, that due to the Eastern Holidays almost all clubs are closed on Saturday and Sunday.

Kiev is still on a downgrade way. A pity compared to a couple of years ago.

Good night

Guys just went to the Relax parlor tonight behind Premier Palace Hotel. MONEY WELL SPENT! They have a variety of massage techniques but I chose the standard with erotic half and half. $60 for the hour. Sophia was my girl. She is new and not on the website yet. Very tall over 6' in heels. Had a touch like an angel. Body was a 10/10, face is a 8/10. To me the perfect woman. Breasts like I have never seen before. Perfectly shaped and firmness just right. Best part was her attitude. Nothing shark about her. Real GFE. No up selling at all. She was fascinated to hear anything about America. She asked me 100 questions and she was fun to talk to. The whole experience was as relaxing as it could be. The interior of the parlor was very clean and cozy. Nice shower room for before and after. Guys I always have more fun with the massage experience than with the full service. I don't know if I am alone in this but it is just more enjoyable. Give Relax a try, you will not be disappointed.

[QUOTE=Kirch;1556048]May be it's just a strategy from the girls you know to tell you they are all closed, so you stay at home with them.[/QUOTE]No kidding, that might be the reason she told me that. Like I said, better to get it from the source than from someone like me.

[QUOTE=TexasMorrell;1556145]Guys just went to the Relax parlor tonight behind Premier Palace Hotel. MONEY WELL SPENT! They have a variety of massage techniques but I chose the standard with erotic half and half. $60 for the hour. Sophia was my girl. She is new and not on the website yet. Very tall over 6' in heels. Had a touch like an angel. Body was a 10/10, face is a 8/10. To me the perfect woman. Breasts like I have never seen before. Perfectly shaped and firmness just right. Best part was her attitude. Nothing shark about her. Real GFE. No up selling at all. She was fascinated to hear anything about America. She asked me 100 questions and she was fun to talk to. The whole experience was as relaxing as it could be. The interior of the parlor was very clean and cozy. Nice shower room for before and after. Guys I always have more fun with the massage experience than with the full service. I don't know if I am alone in this but it is just more enjoyable. Give Relax a try, you will not be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Can you take the girls home?

[QUOTE=Kirch;1556139]But I was very disappointed of Rio tonight. 3 hours is 3.000 Griwna now. Not anymore 2.300 Griwna. Some of the hot girls even want to have 3.000 Griwna for two hours instead of thee hours.[/QUOTE]3. 000 Griwna for 2 hours and covered blowjob. LOL, its not worth it, best to stay away

[QUOTE=Muddy7;1556190]Can you take the girls home?[/QUOTE]No but you can ask for their number and if they like you they will give it to you and come to your place during their off time for some free lance work. This is what I am doing with the one I met last night.

[QUOTE=TexasMorrell;1556145]Guys just went to the Relax parlor tonight behind Premier Palace Hotel. MONEY WELL SPENT! They have a variety of massage techniques but I chose the standard with erotic half and half. $60 for the hour. Sophia was my girl. She is new and not on the website yet.[/QUOTE]May we know the name and Website of this 'Relax parlor' and please some words on the atmosphere of this place? Does it have any charme or is just plain functional?

Went to Relax Massage (google for directions).

- Very clean and nice place.

- Very friendly staff.

- Prices exactly according price-list on their website.

- Free WiFi.

- Had 3 girls to choose from, all of them very pretty.

- Chose "Lana". Turned out to be a perfect choice!

- Very very beautiful girl, beautiful eyes, perfect body with beautiful tits, perfectly soft skin.

- She speaks a little bit of English, had a nice conversation.

- Great oil massage, after flip-over a wonderful (!) erotic massage.

Overall. Had a great time!

PS: No cards accepted, ATM at the Premier Palace Hotel just around the corner.