German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=TheCane;2306400] I always say that my dream scenario would be German-style FKKs, lined all along Thai beaches, and full of nothing but hot, curvy Brazilian girls taking it up the butt! Hahaha! My focus here was on Rio, but Sao Paulo is also good (but no termas).[/QUOTE]How curvy are these Brazilians really? Don't get me wrong, some curves are fine. And more so if the shape and face is good. But when you say it like this, I get worried the shape is too big. But there are plenty of slimmer Brazilians too. The non stereotypical ones.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2306525]Scandalo is probably the most luxe and expensive. Much nicer than any FKK I've been to. I mean like a super high end nightclub and bar and cafe except the girls are all there for one thing. [/QUOTE]Is this the place you talk about?

[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/a-casa/[/URL]

What are the prices here by the way? Website has no info on it.

Also, if you haven't been to any nicer looking FKK, which FKK have you really been to? Not trying to be rude here, but from the pictures, perhaps only Acapulco looks worse to me than this.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2306525]
Scandalo is probably the most luxe and expensive. Much nicer than any FKK I've been to. I mean like a super high end nightclub and bar and cafe except the girls are all there for one thing. [/QUOTE]Is this the place you talk about?

[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/a-casa/[/URL]

What are the prices here by the way? Website has no info on it.

Also, if you haven't been to any nicer looking FKK, which FKK have you really been to? Not trying to be rude here, but from the pictures, perhaps only Acapulco, and some of the other nrw clubs like Magnum etc looks worse to me than this. Especially looking at the cafe area and some of the seats in the lounge.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2306825]Is this the place you talk about?

[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/a-casa/[/URL]

What are the prices here by the way? Website has no info on it.

Also, if you haven't been to any nicer looking FKK, which FKK have you really been to? Not trying to be rude here, but from the pictures, perhaps only Acapulco, and some of the other nrw clubs like Magnum etc looks worse to me than this. Especially looking at the cafe area and some of the seats in the lounge.[/QUOTE]I have been to Sharks Oase Palace World Globe Goldentime Artemis. So not an exhaustive list for sure. But also a nontrivial sample. I will tell you in person it is REALLY nice. Perhaps other German FKKs rival it. What do you think are the most luxe FKK venues?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2306820]How curvy are these Brazilians really? Don't get me wrong, some curves are fine. And more so if the shape and face is good. But when you say it like this, I get worried the shape is too big. But there are plenty of slimmer Brazilians too. The non stereotypical ones.[/QUOTE]I don't think I'm generalizing too much to say the Brazilian aesthetic tends towards slightly thicker gals and with a true Brasileira bunda (butt). I say this based on two things: If you follow #brasileira on Instagram you will see it tends toward thicker but not fat, and very pretty girls. If you go to photoacompanhantes (the best FL WG site) they all lead with ass pics! Only in Brazil!

For my money I discovered the charm of the Brasileira bunda but attached on a slim frame. This is an amazing freak of nature. Of the ten girls I saw, both Duda and Eduarda had this unique feature -- super tiny feminine frame and a tiny waist and this substantial, round, but not fat, Bunda. It is truly amazing to do doggie with your hands on this tiny waist and then this copious bunda to pound against. Just as Kate at Globe is a freak of nature with her slimness (but not skinny! So too are these slim girls with the Brasileira bunda. I rather grew to love it.

Here is a good example.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2306901]I have been to Sharks Oase Palace World Globe Goldentime Artemis. So not an exhaustive list for sure. But also a nontrivial sample. I will tell you in person it is REALLY nice. Perhaps other German FKKs rival it. What do you think are the most luxe FKK venues?[/QUOTE]Well Goldentime Bruggen, and from the pictures, it seems Globe is also a bit run down. So looking worse than scandallo.

The most modern and fresh FKK's in my mind are: Sharks, Oase, Palace after the renovation this winter, Oceans, Wellcum, Marina, YinYang and probably the 2 Austrian Goldentime's (Vienna and Linz).

Paradise Stuttgart is also ahead. And from what I can tell also Sakura and Paradise Saarbrucken. Artemis after the renovation last year as well. At least not worse looking than Scandallo, and the same can be said about World or Dolce Vita I suppose. Not sure how the Hamburg clubs would compare.

This is just from an interior perspective of course.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2306589]As the European scene comes under Romanian domination, the West comes down to Brazilians vs Romanians.[/QUOTE]But the 'west' and 'east' are nothing but political ideas. We can just as well group the world into continents: Eurasia, Africa, Oceania, Americas. And by this definition, Germany and Japan would be grouped together in Eurasia.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2306939]I don't think I'm generalizing too much to say the Brazilian aesthetic tends towards slightly thicker gals and with a true Brasileira bunda (butt). I say this based on two things: If you follow #brasileira on Instagram you will see it tends toward thicker but not fat, and very pretty girls. If you go to photoacompanhantes (the best FL WG site) they all lead with ass pics! Only in Brazil!

For my money I discovered the charm of the Brasileira bunda but attached on a slim frame. This is an amazing freak of nature. Of the ten girls I saw, both Duda and Eduarda had this unique feature -- super tiny feminine frame and a tiny waist and this substantial, round, but not fat, Bunda. It is truly amazing to do doggie with your hands on this tiny waist and then this copious bunda to pound against. Just as Kate at Globe is a freak of nature with her slimness (but not skinny! So too are these slim girls with the Brasileira bunda. I rather grew to love it.

Here is a good example.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've seen it. I must agree some can look quite good. But to me it is mainly a shape issue. Not a size issue. And in that regard for averages I don't find the Brazilians to either be above nor below Romanians. Most girls at #brasileira falls under the fat category instead of shapy category in my book though. But I have noticed that usually most of the fat goes away when they are bent in doggy. So I guess we can stretch that definition a bit. The biggest butts you do find in Angola / Namibia though. And a bit among the igbo in Nigeria. But there the frame is also larger.

Also if I have eaten a lot lately and gained a few kg in weight, I tend to prefer girls with a bit thicker legs and ass. Still needing to be shapey and not fat. So I have concluded this is just about the eye of the beholder.

I usually just go by the presumption that if a girl has a cute face, that face's characteristics are in a way mirrored in the shape of their butt. So I don't always even have to check out their butt first. And it seems to be so in close to 100% of the cases. One girl here for example from Dominican Republic has a type of face that makes me think she also has a well shaped butt. While the other picture has a Thai gogo dancer I knew who had an incredible shaped butt. But her face was a bit too cute perhaps. If that is even a thing.

I looked a bit more on the instagram hashtag you mentionned and did find some girls with great shaped butts:

Karinaa. Cardosoo.

Nicksvieiraoficial.

Costagabi_.

The last one being on the edge perhaps for muscles. There is a trend among the butts I agree, but I don't know if it is more diverse than say among Romanians.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2306983]I usually just go by the presumption that if a girl has a cute face, that face's characteristics are in a way mirrored in the shape of their butt. So I don't always even have to check out their butt first. And it seems to be so in close to 100% of the cases.....[/QUOTE]What an extraordinary assumption. I for one have come to assume zero correlation between a pretty face and other parts of a woman's body. All too often have I had to give up on a pretty face as soon as the girl stood up and I could catch a glimpse of her backside. Meanwhile, plenty of butterfaces with gorgeous butts.

Where I find a definite correlation is between an FKK girl's propensity to remain seated most of the time and her not being possessed of a shapely butt. Such a correlation is not rocket science though.

[QUOTE=XXL;2307161]What an extraordinary assumption. I for one have come to assume zero correlation between a pretty face and other parts of a woman's body. All too often have I had to give up on a pretty face as soon as the girl stood up and I could catch a glimpse of her backside. Meanwhile, plenty of butterfaces with gorgeous butts.

Where I find a definite correlation is between an FKK girl's propensity to remain seated most of the time and her not being possessed of a shapely butt. Such a correlation is not rocket science though.[/QUOTE]Hehe, I have also noticed that correlation. But that usually tends to be a question about fat and size. The shape is more genetically defined. Or maybe I am using the wrong description here.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2306943]Well Goldentime Bruggen, and from the pictures, it seems Globe is also a bit run down. So looking worse than scandallo.

The most modern and fresh FKK's in my mind are: Sharks, Oase, Palace after the renovation this winter, Oceans, Wellcum, Marina, YinYang and probably the 2 Austrian Goldentime's (Vienna and Linz).

Paradise Stuttgart is also ahead. And from what I can tell also Sakura and Paradise Saarbrucken. Artemis after the renovation last year as well. At least not worse looking than Scandallo, and the same can be said about World or Dolce Vita I suppose. Not sure how the Hamburg clubs would compare.

This is just from an interior perspective of course.[/QUOTE]I would agree that both Artemis and Goldentime Linz have pretty nice facilities. I would say GTL is close to Scandalo level for facilities. My Sharks / Oase visits were 2-3 years back but facilities nothing to write home about. Anyhow let's just say Scandalo is a top venue in many respects and highly recommended.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2307289]I would agree that both Artemis and Goldentime Linz have pretty nice facilities. I would say GTL is close to Scandalo level for facilities. My Sharks / Oase visits were 2-3 years back but facilities nothing to write home about. Anyhow let's just say Scandalo is a top venue in many respects and highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Oase renovated the lounge just over a year ago. And Sharks did some renovation 2-3 years ago too. With new jaccuzis etc. Sharks outdoor garden is pretty spectacular for an FKK I would say at least. And very modern wellness options.

For me, when it comes to facility, most important thing is that facility is designed for clients to stay all day long. Lighting to see girls properly without magic and hygiene of the place to some extent.

I say this because most mongers stay around 5 hours in FKK or some even longer, and quite a lot of that time are spent in finding the girl you want to go to room with and also between the session rest time where you can rest a way from girls to recover or look back on the memorable session you just had etc. So lay out and preferably bigger size venue is always plus, and hopefully some outside area where you can take fresh air even in winter, I like going outside just for a minute or two.

Lighting is important as well because many FKK is too dark or it got this disco light that make girls face and skin look too good. , I call this magic light of FKK LOL, so I like FKK where I can see girls face properly under normal blight light. This would be for instance like Artemis stairways by game machine, Oase down stairs by restaurant where girls come out, or palace first small bar where small safety box are (now destroyed and not there anymore). Piston pointed out that Oase lounge got renovated and if that is the lounge on the left side when you just enter club then I hope they fixed that dark light because it was way too dark to see girls face at main lounge of Oase.

As for hygiene, most club is clean, it is just worn out due to heavy daily use and not able to renovate, but usually I don't know any club that got better with renovation and I tend to like it as it was as long as it is clean enough, which I think most FKK I went to are.

Personally, I like Artemis set up for staying all day long, and that is the only FKK that got better with renovation of out door jacuzzi, outdoor pool and separate sauna buildings, it would have been nice if they built out door fuck place, but over all, renovation few years ago was good move that did not bother anybody during construction and after. It is too bad that line up went down and upsell got bad at Artemis, if not that would still be my favorite club in Germany with Berlin being my favorite city with plenty of things I can do during day before going to Artemis.

Other FKK I like during summer only is gt because it got out side, out side fuck places, out side sun deds to chill, separate tent with lounge and resty, so plenty of get away place to stay all day, maybe that is why place is too packed with clients all the time. If gt has pool, it would be amazing venue. It got pond that is not suited to swim though LOL.

Worst FKK set up is definitely palace and LR. Both are too small to stay long time. LR at least has outdoor area and also has kind line up where girls are somehow more soft and friendly, but palace, you got some sharky girls always coming to you even you wear the wrist bands that supposed to leave you alone, they recently became more softer thought, but either way, club is too small and lay out is designed in the way that you cannot rest away from girls even between sessions and I hear they took away the smoking room now after renovation. Now main bar must be smoky as Artemis main bar, but in palace no where to escape away too with no out side area.

I like sharks set up, but I never liked lighting there, it is deceiving somehow, it is that magic light LOL. But I always loved second floor where you can get away from girls, but look down to whole floor while resting between session. Out door pool is really nice there during summer, but somehow line up never impressed me at sharks.

Oceans has nice set up during summer and only if they have pool there outside, it would be amazing facility. Only down side is that many of lockers are broken and never fixed. The odd thing is even oceans has one big ware house design like sharks but with only one floor, somehow girls never approach me aggressively, and even they mildly upsell, it is somehow more milder than club like palace or Artemis or Oase, it must be NRW thing because I tend to see big service difference in nrw FKK than other area of Germany.

All in all, Artemis still is my best venue for layout if you only talk about lay out and the city that is in and actually most easy to access location for such big FKK.