Kyiv

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1565326]Some here quoted 900-1100 UAH for an hour of service! And another one mentioned 1000 UAH for FEW hours!

Sounds a lot. Especially f non pro. I'd like a 500UAH for all night long[/QUOTE]1000 UAH for 2-4 hours with a very attractive university student for me is usual. I've heard some mongers mention 800 and I believe them. 1000 UAH is about 89 USD. Not a bad deal, in my opinion, for a quality evening. 500 UAH for all night? You can't expect to get much for that, I don't think. There might be a babushka at Vokzalna metro station willing, but I can't imagine you'll get more than that.

For 600 UAH (53 USD) I've snagged a pretty, young secretary who just lost her job. I will give her some English practice and she'll fuck my brains out all I want for 600 UAH. However, that deal only comes as I am living here full-time and have already built a rapport or she'd never go for it, I'm sure.

Regardless, 500 UAH for what you are asking for in a city as expensive as Kyiv is unrealistic, in my opinion. You must remember, you get what you pay for. I've heard mongers lamenting that some foreigners over spend and spoil the girls here. I agree. However, if you force them to take much less than what they expect you'll get bad service and no repeat visits. At 1000 UAH I've had some marathon sex sessions with some lovely young women.

[QUOTE=CanadianBoy; 1565189]Hey Jojo!

World Cup is approaching and I plan on spending a lot of time watching football at pubs, drinking and chasing the local talent.[/QUOTE]Tonight is a good night to mingle with the local talent in a lively bar and cheer the UA entry in the Eurovision. Tick Tock a very catchy song and Ukraine might win it based on protest votes as the Russians were booed and Ukraine have a lot of sympathy votes on their side.

[QUOTE=EasyEase; 1565075]Hi friends,

I visited Kiev about 10 days ago for a business trip. Haven't been there for the past 3 years. I must say it wasn't a very successful trip this time and I will avoid visiting Kiev in the future and meet with my business partner somewhere else if I can.

I stayed on Krechiatek next to Avalon, the 2 times I came back home late (and a little bit tipsy) there were attempts to rob me by drunk in militia dressed guys (a group of 4-5). If there wasnt my business partner who interfered the 2 times, I am sure I would have got robbed.

As I didn't have access to Mamba due to password issues I had to call devushkas from Top-Modals and Escort-model, the 2 times I asked for girls to come, they where extremely ugly. I met them all in front of the building, gave them 30 Grivna for the Taxi and asked them to go home.

I went with my business partner to a club called Skybar, nice place with very beautiful ladies but I don't thing they were pros, looked to me more like the upper-class devushlas having a nice time.

My business partner invited me to a brothel out of town with approx 5-8 girls, we both chose one each. There was a room with a huge private indoor swimming pool and I took my girl to this room, was fun fucking a girl in the pool and on the pool-side. She had huge titts (which I love) but the lack of English made the situation somehow boring.

I was really looking into that trip since I usually love Kiev. But it didn't work out so well this time for me.

Just my 2 cents.

Easyease[/QUOTE]A brothel with a huge indoor swimming pool out of town?

FKK in Ukraine?

Sounds very interesting. Can you tell us the name and the location?

gorgeous city, just visit for the architecture and museums, no need to spin stories like 'i am her on business'. for ee standards, a southern city with lots of greenery and an easy way of life in summer. rainy today though.

stories that kiev is not the location anymore to meet beautiful girls are plain nonsense. the fellows posting may have gotten older or may not have kept pace with inflation. anyway: scenery is varied, huge and at times stunning. mamba did not work at all for me. in touch cafe not far from arena is nice, lots of girls having fun, saw two wg that were hit upon by 2 not so bad looking foreigners but nothing materialized. fun to watch the posturing while reading a good paper. i get more kicks out of exchanging a view here and there with a regular girl than the jaded looks of the wg. all good fun. also fun to sit at arena outdoors and just watch.

security: in a nutshell, maidan is well organized by non governmental militias. partly neo fascist. lots of berets, breivik style fantasy emblems, crew cuts, very strong guys in military gear, some posing stallone style, others dacha style if you know what i mean. worn plastic slippers, military trousers, beer belly under scrubby shirt. stench of burned tire, no stench of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]. lots of military garb. tents, jumper boots, helmets, sticks, gas masks, wooden pallets. these campers are well equipped. they have their own security organized at maidan, non governmental. so, yes, maidan is not policed. it is a large yet well defined area, and after nightfall, when alcohol gets in the game, the security may fail. just walk quickly and distance yourselves from the paramilitaries. in the daytime, the atmosphere is great, great music, air of tragedy, so many men lost to non sensical posturing. politics of grief: oversize posters of the fallen, mostly men, mostly military garb, must have been a battle. i feel for the victims on both sides.

spent the night just as it should be in kiev, with a 22 yo stunner, less than half my age, slender and sexily clad, class appearance, long black hair, heels and pretty nails, class face, clothing clinging to her body. 1,65m, just the right package. student who did not mind 200 eur extra and a very nice night of chatting, flowers, petting and sex. came 3 times easy easy easy, lots of dfk and licks, covered bj and mish for safety's sake, got to give them safety, but spurted with her pretty hands all over my dick and balls and her face serving as backdrop to my erect penis, while she smiled and stared at me intensely, just as i asked her to do. she enjoyed. willmeet and have her again.

These are the new $100 bills

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Can you still the exchange the OLD $100 bills for grivna in Kiev?

[QUOTE=SuperLove; 1565292]Mr sorbonne, didn't get slapped even once. I had work in the city and went for a few days there from my trip to russia.

Average was fucking twice a day. Most of the time was a professional who I paid on an average 1000-1200 local for an hour, quality was good say 7. 5-8/10 one two times 9.

On a few occasions I did manage to pick up girls from the street near or on Khreshatyk. I say its very easy. I also tried dating sites and other local agencies but they were all scams. A lot of young girls are distributing fliers of restaurants and massage parlours on the street and are easy target. I offered a couple of girls to come to Odessa with me and they agreed, finally went with 1. Had a great time. Gave her USD 250-300 and she was happy to spend time with me 24x7. I must say Kiev is easy as compared to other places. Don't know if this has changed now. Have fun bro.[/QUOTE]The conversation about approaching women on the street jogged my memory about a story an American colleague of mine told me over a Guinness a few weeks previous. He told me about a former colleague of his here in Kyiv who was transferred to Odessa. He said as soon as he arrived in Odessa, he checked into his flat and immediately headed to a nearby mall where he began handing out his business cards to all the young women walking by. Whether he realized it or not, he gave his business card to a sixteen year old girl. The girl went home and told her father. The father sent the man a text (pretending to be his daughter) and asked what he wanted. My buddies former colleague said he would help her with money in exchange for sex, if she was interested. The father, a big-wig in Odessa, apparently, contacted our office in Odessa and lodged a severe complaint and showed them the text message exchange. Outraged, our office sacked the man the next morning. Dude wasn't in Odessa for 24-hours and had his ass fired!

My colleague went further and told me the man was later deported out of Ukraine but for something unrelated to what happened in Odessa. No idea why he was deported but it must have been something serverly offensive.

[QUOTE=CanadianBoy; 1565405]The conversation about approaching women on the street jogged my memory about a story an American colleague of mine told me over a Guinness a few weeks previous. He told me about a former colleague of his here in Kyiv who was transferred to Odessa. He said as soon as he arrived in Odessa, he checked into his flat and immediately headed to a nearby mall where he began handing out his business cards to all the young women walking by. Whether he realized it or not, he gave his business card to a sixteen year old girl. The girl went home and told her father. The father sent the man a text (pretending to be his daughter) and asked what he wanted. My buddies former colleague said he would help her with money in exchange for sex, if she was interested. The father, a big-wig in Odessa, apparently, contacted our office in Odessa and lodged a severe complaint and showed them the text message exchange. Outraged, our office sacked the man the next morning. Dude wasn't in Odessa for 24-hours and had his ass fired!

My colleague went further and told me the man was later deported out of Ukraine but for something unrelated to what happened in Odessa. No idea why he was deported but it must have been something serverly offensive.[/QUOTE]This story reminded of last year when I was stopped by the cops last year. When my 2 buddies arrived with the 2 girls they had just picked up in the club earlier, the cops asked I'd from everybody and turns out one of the girls was 16 thus creating even a bigger problem. The cops were going to take the 16 year old to jail and crowd formed. In the melee we were able to just walked away.

[QUOTE=CanadianBoy; 1565405]The conversation about approaching women on the street jogged my memory about a story an American colleague of mine told me over a Guinness a few weeks previous. He told me about a former colleague of his here in Kyiv who was transferred to Odessa. He said as soon as he arrived in Odessa, he checked into his flat and immediately headed to a nearby mall where he began handing out his business cards to all the young women walking by. Whether he realized it or not, he gave his business card to a sixteen year old girl. The girl went home and told her father. The father sent the man a text (pretending to be his daughter) and asked what he wanted. My buddies former colleague said he would help her with money in exchange for sex, if she was interested. The father, a big-wig in Odessa, apparently, contacted our office in Odessa and lodged a severe complaint and showed them the text message exchange. Outraged, our office sacked the man the next morning. Dude wasn't in Odessa for 24-hours and had his ass fired!

My colleague went further and told me the man was later deported out of Ukraine but for something unrelated to what happened in Odessa. No idea why he was deported but it must have been something serverly offensive.[/QUOTE]Sex Ukraine is private. You don't hand out cards and you don't approach women on the street with offers. It's all in the eyes and subliminal messages.

[QUOTE=YellowPaul;1565415]This story reminded of last year when I was stopped by the cops last year. When my 2 buddies arrived with the 2 girls they had just picked up in the club earlier, the cops asked I'd from everybody and turns out one of the girls was 16 thus creating even a bigger problem. The cops were going to take the 16 year old to jail and crowd formed. In the melee we were able to just walked away.[/QUOTE]A warning story, but I don't understand why it should be a problem to pick up a 16 year old girl at club and walk together on Kiev street, let alone sending her to jail? If this is the case, we simply can't walk with a 16 year old in Kiev.

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[quote=philosophus1; 1565362]gorgeous city, just visit for the architecture and museums, no need to spin stories like 'i am her on business'. for ee standards, a southern city with lots of greenery and an easy way of life in summer. rainy today though.

stories that kiev is not the location anymore to meet beautiful girls are plain nonsense. the fellows posting may have gotten older or may not have kept pace with inflation. anyway: scenery is varied, huge and at times stunning. mamba did not work at all for me. in touch cafe not far from arena is nice, lots of girls having fun, saw two wg that were hit upon by 2 not so bad looking foreigners but nothing materialized. fun to watch the posturing while reading a good paper. i get more kicks out of exchanging a view here and there with a regular girl than the jaded looks of the wg. all good fun. also fun to sit at arena outdoors and just watch.

security: in a nutshell, maidan is well organized by non governmental militias. partly neo fascist. lots of berets, breivik style fantasy emblems, crew cuts, very strong guys in military gear, some posing stallone style, others dacha style if you know what i mean. worn plastic slippers, military trousers, beer belly under scrubby shirt. stench of burned tire, no stench of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]. lots of military garb. tents, jumper boots, helmets, sticks, gas masks, wooden pallets. these campers are well equipped. they have their own security organized at maidan, non governmental. so, yes, maidan is not policed. it is a large yet well defined area, and after nightfall, when alcohol gets in the game, the security may fail. just walk quickly and distance yourselves from the paramilitaries. in the daytime, the atmosphere is great, great music, air of tragedy, so many men lost to non sensical posturing. politics of grief: oversize posters of the fallen, mostly men, mostly military garb, must have been a battle. i feel for the victims on both sides.

spent the night just as it should be in kiev, with a 22 yo stunner, less than half my age, slender and sexily clad, class appearance, long black hair, heels and pretty nails, class face, clothing clinging to her body. 1,65m, just the right package. student who did not mind 200 eur extra and a very nice night of chatting, flowers, petting and sex. came 3 times easy easy easy, lots of dfk and licks, covered bj and mish for safety's sake, got to give them safety, but spurted with her pretty hands all over my dick and balls and her face serving as backdrop to my erect penis, while she smiled and stared at me intensely, just as i asked her to do. she enjoyed. willmeet and have her again.[/quote]i just think its awesome that, even with all that's going on in the ukraine, that punters are still out trying to get action. this is not a critcism, just a chuckling acknowledgement. i can understand why. in my opinon, ukranian women are among the most beautiful in the world, right up there with french-canadian and japanese. its a shame that the wellspring, including kiev and odessa, could be in turmoil soon. pity i probably never shall be able to see it unspoilt. it will be one of those things where people will say "it has never been the same since." forget oil and minerals. women are the ukraine's greatest export.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1565551]A warning story, but I don't understand why it should be a problem to pick up a 16 year old girl at club and walk together on Kiev street, let alone sending her to jail? If this is the case, we simply can't walk with a 16 year old in Kiev.[/QUOTE]Well I can see the problem with picking up a 16 year old, its illegal for a start, and why would anyone want to be in company of a 16 year old? It can only bring trouble.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1565551]A warning story, but I don't understand why it should be a problem to pick up a 16 year old girl at club and walk together on Kiev street, let alone sending her to jail? If this is the case, we simply can't walk with a 16 year old in Kiev.[/QUOTE]IFO do not know the local juiridical system and law but I can assume.

A) depending on the hour of the night there might be a curfew for people below legal age.

Be) a girl (or two) alone with some more mature foreigners might imply to police that something "illegal" (sex with a minor) was going to happen (but this would have meant sending to jail or to police office the men)

See) the sitaution might have implied a P4P action was going on or about to start and might be that local law prosecute the provider / prostitute.

I think we read over here that often police stops (newly formed) couples checking if they are really a couple of just an occasional one (P4P) when the two are about to enter a building.

Whether it is a scam for bribery or there is some minimum substance to the case it is another story.

Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Muddy7; 1565387]These are the new $100 bills.

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Can you still the exchange the OLD $100 bills for grivna in Kiev?[/QUOTE]Yes you can.

Don't want to stir things out of proportions but got a mess from a well traveled buddy on VK that had a bad experience in Kiev day before yesterday, involving an alleged student in need of gremlins and her giant militia dressed cousins, or maybe it was brothers or boyfriends. He talked himself out of it, but is paranoid now. The cat is away so take it easy with the rats.

B.