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We are all right and we are all wrong! But remember what Bangkok Banger said
" he's got papers to prove it when he goes bareback and he's infertile " although he can't be sure as the the girls don't have papers!
I play it safe! Go thin and go in!
LBM
[QUOTE=Rim Luver]I know this sounds harsh, judgemental and may upset some.
I believe that anyone who goes BB in Thailand or any high profile P4P destination, should be incarcerated.
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Since this won't happen anytime soon, what's would be your other immediate solution?
[QUOTE=Rim Luver]
There is a chance your actions may eventually kill someone, or multiple people. People are put into prison or called mentally I'll with this type of thinking.
Anyone one on this site that tells people after reporting they went BB, " Hey great report, glad you had a good time" is adding fuel to the fire.
In my opinion, Bareback reporters should be banned from this site and referred to counseling.[/QUOTE]
If someone wants to engage in unsafe sex, he should be allowed to report on this forum about it. Let's face it, condoms suck! He who has the balls to bareback it with a ho, gets my respect! I just don't have the balls yet, but I am tempted to every time.
[QUOTE=Amjeck] He who has the balls to bareback it with a ho, gets my respect! I just don't have the balls yet, but I am tempted to every time.[/QUOTE]
IMHO it don't take balls to bareback, just dangerous recklessness. The balls bit comes in how you handle it when you get your positive result.
"But everytime he opens his mouth, like his last post on the Bangkok Thread, his reference that he has been tested and cleared so it's O.K. nearly drove me up the wall. I wonder before he put his dick into every women that allow him bareback had papers from legit hospital showing clearance."
I really HATE these flame wars, but I can't let this dearth of logic go without comment!
So, just ONE question: I wonder before YOU put your COVERED dick into every woman that allowed COVERED SEX, if she or you had the condom tested for leaks, tears, defects, and flaws?
Did the box of rubbers come with a warranty? And are you aware of the statistics regarding condom failure? Just wondering!
But I guess the old saying is true--opinions are like assholes--everybody's got one!
[QUOTE=Bangkok Banger]But I guess the old saying is true--opinions are like assholes--everybody's got one![/QUOTE]
Well you got that one right! :D
Look, for BB sex in Bangkok you can walk just about anyplace and most girls will offer it. I know that many members will get upset at this but after 4 years of mongering, I have yet to find a girl that will categorically refuse BB sex.
Many will just go on with the sex without even asking for a rubber (and save money maybe?)
The ladies you ask about BB sex will either say yes or ask for more money.
I need to say though that some have refused. I was happy to hear that.
Bangkok Banger,
So that no one needs to RTFF, the guy he was referencing about opening his big mouth was made by me LBM!
You got one thing right and that is if you go to the mirror and turn to your backside you will see you are one of us!
You just confirm my statement. And when it comes to this particular topic you just continue to stick your big foot into your big mouth! The problems as I have stated isn't so much that you raise your head proudly that you do bareback and I do give you credit for that. And if you are man enough to do that then don't continue to change your handle thinking you are going to get more favorable feedback. And as you continue to use childish and warp logic to justify your behavior like " I got tested with papers and you don't and I'm infertile " if that was true I pay whatever it takes so to get infertile this way I can go bareback myself and be immune to the disease!
I'm from San Francisco, and that itself should tell you something about HIV/AIDS! Although I'm not gay or Bi, I have family who are gay. Have you ever been around a person or friend that has AIDS? In the early 80'S when the disease was still at the unknown stages I was working with a Airline and working along side me were some great guys and hard workers but I didn't know they were gay. One day many of them started calling in sick, some were coming in with weigh lost and marks on their faces. Everyone just though they had the flu, Hep, Mono or some blood disordered. Then the funeral annoucements started coming in. Time later, as the disease was spreading and researches term it HIV/AIDS. Watching a friend or co-worker slowly die isn't pretty. I wish this on no one not even my sister-law who I hate and I don't wish it on you although nothing I'm going to say is going to change the dangerous path you are going down.
I will answer your question about condoms. Although I didn't do the test myself just like you didn't do your HIV/AIDS test. I added that in because you think like a child! Yes! they have been tested over and over for leaks etc... and although they aren't perfect but researcher and makers are improving them daily. Being a betting man even if I go with your statistics I have 85% better chance than you going bareback! and every doctor on this face of this earth will standby me! Unless he or she is stupid? Of course you're thinking this minute LBM you full of shit!
I looked something up for you and if you are in Pattaya now or whenever go see this Doctor in Jomtien who spoke in Feb of this year at the PattayaExpatsclub who is a expert in HIV/AIDS in Thailand. Doctor Philippe Seur is his name and he has a clinic in Jomtien in Pattaya and head up a project called Heartt2000. That itself should tell you how vast and growing the problem is in Thailand although the Thai Government wouldn't come out and admit it. I don't have the exact address but if you check the website [url]www.pattayaexpatsclub.com[/url] and contact them they will give you a address or phone number. Let me know if you have the fortitude to visit him so I can meet you there and we can all have a good laugh at your logic with papers, condoms, and being infertile.
Regardless I wish you health and wealth so that you can come up with a cure so we can all go bareback. I do miss it just talking about it!
LBM
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Many will just go on with the sex without even asking for a rubber (and save money maybe?)[/QUOTE]
Many girls will go BB to get a long term sponsor... some warped sense that this is what all guys want and they pretend they don't do it with everyone or every other guy and that you are the only one they go BB with etc...
Funny thing is that guys fall for it over and over and over.... And I'll admit I've been caught a time or two but NEVER with a one night pick up BG or SW or such... But an occasional past repeat I will admit I got wrapped up in the moments and got my willy in the wrong place in the past.
BB happens all the time unfortunately and it's very easy to go BB in MP's even. What surprised me in my experience (only my POV) is that girls from free lance places like Beer Garden or such are more adamant about protection then girls from like higher class places.
And then... there are... the real low lifes, as far as I'm concerned.
Bumbed into a friend of mine who was having lunch and sitting around with a bunch of guys just shooting the bull. Then one guy piped in and announced proudly how he gets to Bare Back his gals.
He would always have baby oil around when he gets a gal and tell her to first stimulate him by hand stroking him using the baby oil. These unsuspecting gals wouldn't think nothing of it and slather on the oil as that is indeed the modus operandi at the Hand-Job places. He would then put on the condom and again ask the gal to put more baby oil on the rubber as a lubricant.
This asshole proudly told everybody present that using this method, at least 50% of the time he gets to bare back the gal as the condom would break inside of her. My God - what a low life.
Why am I relating this here?? OK, granted it probably will give some of the less than salubrious members here further ammunition in their quest for BB'ing one and all sundry WG's. But I also think that if enough of us go out there and warn the gals we are with about this low life trick, that we could make a bit of difference.
So guys - go out there and tell your gals!!
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]...This asshole proudly told everybody present that using this method, at least 50% of the time he gets to bare back the gal as the condom would break inside of her...[/QUOTE]
I can't imagine what fun he can get out of that. He's still going to have a broken condom fastened and now flopping around on his dick, which seems to me would feel worse than an unbroken one.
Going bb is really easy. I know tons of guys and gals do it all the time. Also, the level of knowledge concerning STDs among the average monger is pretty low. It is a crap shoot but the odds favor the guys.
Long ago, the army advised us to drink lots of water and flap our dicks around afterwards. These primitive methods, said to horny grunts, do control the risks to a degree.
When we consider the size of Boyztown and that lots of the gays and TGS are also sleeping with the bargirls and lots of the Boyztown Johns are getting it up the ass and are doing our bar girls as well, the crap shoot odds become harder to calculate.
Personally, I like to bb but I am always a little nervous. All winning streaks do end. And I don't want to end that way.
And if even a hand job can give us warts, what is left?
[QUOTE=The Departed]
And if even a hand job can give us warts, what is left?[/QUOTE]
Wet dreams?
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]...OK, granted it probably will give some of the less than salubrious members here further ammunition in their quest for BB'ing one and all sundry WG's.[/QUOTE]
Its an old trick, but in my experience nearly all girls know that baby oil or massage oil - oils in general - are damaging to condoms.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]OK, granted it probably will give some of the less than salubrious members here further ammunition in their quest for BB'ing one and all sundry WG's. [/QUOTE]Joe, this is friendly fire, isnt' it. Low life Dr. HIV Self Infect Bareback Opebo just proved it.
[QUOTE=The Departed]
And if even a hand job can give us warts, what is left?[/QUOTE]
Where's the proof in this? Maybe if she touches her pussy first then immediately touches your cock after.