[QUOTE=Sui Generis;1159958].Answers to your questions[/QUOTE]Don't know why you bother to answer to Auriflama, it's been two years he asks over and over the same questions in the SP thread.
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[QUOTE=Sui Generis;1159958].Answers to your questions[/QUOTE]Don't know why you bother to answer to Auriflama, it's been two years he asks over and over the same questions in the SP thread.
Yes, the Clínica is Red Massagem.
It's a relatively new CLínica (I think it opened in 2010) and the selection of garotas is quite good. It's located on a very quiet sector of Avenida Moema. The rooms are clean, the manager (Erica) is attentive to our needs and as I said before there's that incredible promotion: R$200 for a dupla (R$180 if you post on the GP Guia).
Visited SP for some business few weeks ago. Stayed there for 4 nights. First night went to Cafe Photo and was amazed by the quality of girls. Although expensive the girls are truly worth it. GFE with everyone. Tried 4 different girls from Rio, SP and other parts of brazil. It was very difficult choosing one every night as the choice was simply great.
I did check out other places for mongering listed here but ultimately photo gave the best bang for buck.
Hope you revist SP soon, can't get enough of the beautiful brazilian girls.
So I have been reading through the reports posted on here for a few months now and have finally decided to add my recent experiences to the pool. I am brand new to the mongering scene but as Brazil is supposed to be a highlight I subscribed and read through the forum for a few weeks before leaving London.
I have been living in SP for two months now, in New Brooklin; it is nice enough, safe, has reasonably short distances to most parts of zona sul (roughly $20-$30BRL) in a taxi, but you can do it alot cheaper with good bus and rail links should one wish to. There are few bars & restaurants around, not amazing, but with a Brazilian charm all the same, however it is a ghost town Saturday and Sunday (financial district).
Yes SP is expensive but most large, financially significant cities are, I get tired of reading reports from whimpering blokes about expense and difficulty of getting around etc, for Christ's sake feller's do some research before you get on the plane! But, I'm not writing to join the ranks of the complaining and unimaginative!
For my first taste of Brazilian loving, I went to a (Boate, singles bar, strip bar, house of disrepute. I don't know what the difference is) called Cafe Gauguin on Rua Arizona. 1544. Brooklin. I hadn't seen it mentioned on here. Entrance $100BRL.
It is a nice setup really clean and new looking with a large bar, TV's and stage etc. I got there about 10pm and was told the strip show didn't start until 11pm. No drama, I sat at the bar, ordered a Bohemia and had a look around a disappointingly empty room!
There were roughly 8 guys and 4 girls standing around, not the palace of poon I had imagined. I had been sitting for 5 minutes when a large mulata (5. 0/10) appeared from no where, which would be no small feat as she was a big 'ol' girl. The flirting and the groping felt like she was going to pay me not the other way around (Not feeling comfortable at this point) she is not my style and I didn't want to offend the friendly gorilla by telling her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off (she was actually quite sweet, just came on way to strong for me and way too heavy) She asked me to buy her a drink (Amarula, its like sweet Baileys and not nice) I agreed and we chatted in broken English for 40 mins. During this time somehow, she had recruited her friend (5. 5/10 slimmer but by no means a stunner with some balloon like fakies) and now they were both asking for drinks and were pushing for me to take the two of them.
I couldn't get any prices out of them even though I asked them several times (out of curiosity rather than desire) and they were really pushing to get me to go upstairs which I wasn't going to do without knowing how much I would be charged.
The show started at 11 and I stayed long enough to watch a very bored Asian girl do a very mechanical strip / dance and that was enough for me.
Total bill for entrance. 4 Bohemia and 7 drinks for the girls came to $578BRL (they add 10% just for paying by card too) and no sex or fun for that matter. Burn!
I don't begrudge paying as I ordered all the drinks knowing full well they were pricey, a little surprised about the credit card charge though. As I was trying to pay, the gorilla came over and started begging me to add another $100R to the cheque for her as a tip and would not quit! No chance.
So over all not a good night. However; the place looked really great, it was big and would have made a great night club so I can't help wondering if it was simply too early or the wrong night (Wed). Surely they couldn't pay the electricity bill let alone the lease on the level of trade I saw. So I'm tempted to give it another go when my Portuguese and mongering skills have been honed, and maybe ask to look around first.
Ever the optimist, I'm looking back on this as a lesson in how not to monger for the future. .
If there are any more experienced mongers out there that fancy sharing your wisdom over a beer or need an inexperienced wing man, feel free to I'm me.
So having had an unexpectedly rough 1st experience I decided to leave the fancy clubs alone for a while and try a prive or clinica (can some one explain the difference)?
I found a list of locations, from an old post and headed out to the nearest one on foot. Rua Jaceru 177. Well, it couldn't have been any more different from Cafe Gauguin. After buzzing the rusty security door I was greeted by an average looking girl, ok figure but mangled teeth and bad skin.
I mustered up the courage to sit on one of the couches, praying I wasn't going to pick up any disease simply by sitting on the thing. Then as I had read would happen the girls came out one at a time to introduce themselves not a great standard. About 9 girls in total all between 3 and 5 out of 10.
This time however, I don't care. I'm not leaving with seeing some action.
There was no apparent management, the last girl to introduce herself asked who I would like (my Portuguese is still awful but I now can understand allot more than I can say). I take a girl named Aline. 5.0/10 at least she smiled. I have never dropped my standards soo low but I'm on a mission here!
We go up stairs of the fairly run down house and into a large bedroom with ensuite. She offered me a shower, I was reluctant as I didn't fancy putting my bare feet on the floor, but accepted all the same.
I asked simply for a BJ, and remained standing as she did not change the sheet and it was a little stained from the days use so I didn't want to touch it. Aline asked if I wanted a condom or not and I said no, she seemed to be pleased about that.
The BBBJ was AWESOME!
She was enthusiastic, eye contact, sucked on my balls the works and then CIM and swallow. Really enjoyable. It was a shame she was soo unattractive!
The grimy and seedy environment sort of added to the whole experience (I might have learnt something about myself) and for $50BRL per 1/2 hour a really cheap little adventure!
[QUOTE=Pilot101; 1160849]So I have been reading through the reports posted on here for a few months now and have finally decided to add my recent experiences to the pool. I am brand new to the mongering scene but as Brazil is supposed to be a highlight I subscribed and read through the forum for a few weeks before leaving London.
I have been living in SP for two months now, in New Brooklin; it is nice enough, safe, has reasonably short distances to most parts of zona sul (roughly $20-$30BRL) in a taxi, but you can do it alot cheaper with good bus and rail links should one wish to. There are few bars & restaurants around, not amazing, but with a Brazilian charm all the same, however it is a ghost town Saturday and Sunday (financial district).
Yes SP is expensive but most large, financially significant cities are, I get tired of reading reports from whimpering blokes about expense and difficulty of getting around etc, for Christ's sake feller's do some research before you get on the plane! But, I'm not writing to join the ranks of the complaining and unimaginative!
For my first taste of Brazilian loving, I went to a (Boate, singles bar, strip bar, house of disrepute. I don't know what the difference is) called Cafe Gauguin on Rua Arizona. 1544. Brooklin. I hadn't seen it mentioned on here. Entrance $100BRL.
It is a nice setup really clean and new looking with a large bar, TV's and stage etc. I got there about 10pm and was told the strip show didn't start until 11pm. No drama, I sat at the bar, ordered a Bohemia and had a look around a disappointingly empty room!
There were roughly 8 guys and 4 girls standing around, not the palace of poon I had imagined. I had been sitting for 5 minutes when a large mulata (5. 0/10) appeared from no where, which would be no small feat as she was a big 'ol' girl. The flirting and the groping felt like she was going to pay me not the other way around (Not feeling comfortable at this point) she is not my style and I didn't want to offend the friendly gorilla by telling her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off (she was actually quite sweet, just came on way to strong for me and way too heavy) She asked me to buy her a drink (Amarula, its like sweet Baileys and not nice) I agreed and we chatted in broken English for 40 mins. During this time somehow, she had recruited her friend (5. 5/10 slimmer but by no means a stunner with some balloon like fakies) and now they were both asking for drinks and were pushing for me to take the two of them.
I couldn't get any prices out of them even though I asked them several times (out of curiosity rather than desire) and they were really pushing to get me to go upstairs which I wasn't going to do without knowing how much I would be charged.
The show started at 11 and I stayed long enough to watch a very bored Asian girl do a very mechanical strip / dance and that was enough for me.
Total bill for entrance. 4 Bohemia and 7 drinks for the girls came to $578BRL (they add 10% just for paying by card too) and no sex or fun for that matter. Burn!
I don't begrudge paying as I ordered all the drinks knowing full well they were pricey, a little surprised about the credit card charge though. As I was trying to pay, the gorilla came over and started begging me to add another $100R to the cheque for her as a tip and would not quit! No chance.
So over all not a good night. However; the place looked really great, it was big and would have made a great night club so I can't help wondering if it was simply too early or the wrong night (Wed). Surely they couldn't pay the electricity bill let alone the lease on the level of trade I saw. So I'm tempted to give it another go when my Portuguese and mongering skills have been honed, and maybe ask to look around first.
Ever the optimist, I'm looking back on this as a lesson in how not to monger for the future. .
If there are any more experienced mongers out there that fancy sharing your wisdom over a beer or need an inexperienced wing man, feel free to I'm me. [/QUOTE]Why don't ya try a boate down on Augusta. Named Casarao. 10R entrance, comes w 2 beers or a drink. Lots of pretty girls. Even if you get quoted a high gringo price, the most it'll be is 200R, and you can easily get it down to 125-150R for the girl, the room, everything.
Much better than than getting ripped off.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Pilot101;1160860]So having had an unexpectedly rough 1st experience I decided to leave the fancy clubs alone for a while and try a prive or clinica (can some one explain the difference)? The grimy and seedy environment sort of added to the whole experience (I might have learnt something about myself) and for $50BRL per 1/2 hour a really cheap little adventure![/QUOTE]Clinica are usually quite good establishments: facilities and girls.
One can of course not get the right chemistry, but it is rare to leave the place disappointed.
I can't comment on getting CIM in a clinica: never happened to me. OK for a BBBJ, but FJ is strictly covered.
There are plenty of indications of good clinicas in here, so you should stick to the recommednations.
I think a privè is more a brothel type of venue and the description of your visit seems to confirm a privè.
In clinica you chose gorls from a photo gallery. Receptionists are there to welcome and explain everything and guide you to the gallery room. A massage is always on the menu, it is up to you to make it short, sooner or later.
Can you update infos about Cafe Photo, entry fee and price for service for example?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=MurphyLove; 1160708]Visited SP for some business few weeks ago. Stayed there for 4 nights. First night went to Cafe Photo and was amazed by the quality of girls. Although expensive the girls are truly worth it. GFE with everyone. Tried 4 different girls from Rio, SP and other parts of brazil. It was very difficult choosing one every night as the choice was simply great.
I did check out other places for mongering listed here but ultimately photo gave the best bang for buck.
Hope you revist SP soon, can't get enough of the beautiful brazilian girls. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter; 1161484]Can you update infos about Cafe Photo, entry fee and price for service for example?
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]Entry fee 150R, bico seco (drinks not included).
Parking 20R.
Girl between 500-600R for 3 hours. At the end of the night, or for the less attractive, may be 400.
For me, not worth the money. Better to coose other places, less expenseve and better quality.
Girl's quality not sooo good, service generally rushed, difficult to find real GFE.
The girls seem to have the feeling to know they are working in the most upscale place of Sampa.
You realize that, someone look like piranhas, unpleasant.
Of course, with exceptions depending mainly on the chemistry, if she likes you, how you treat her, how money she is thinking to earn from you later.
[QUOTE=Pilot101; 1160849]I have been living in SP for two months now, in New Brooklin; it is nice enough, safe, has reasonably short distances to most parts of zona sul (roughly $20-$30BRL) in a taxi, but you can do it alot cheaper with good bus and rail links should one wish to. There are few bars & restaurants around, not amazing, but with a Brazilian charm all the same, however it is a ghost town Saturday and Sunday (financial district).
Yes SP is expensive but most large, financially significant cities are, I get tired of reading reports from whimpering blokes about expense and difficulty of getting around etc, for Christ's sake feller's do some research before you get on the plane! But, I'm not writing to join the ranks of the complaining and unimaginative!
For my first taste of Brazilian loving, I went to a (Boate, singles bar, strip bar, house of disrepute. I don't know what the difference is) called Cafe Gauguin on Rua Arizona. 1544. Brooklin. I hadn't seen it mentioned on here. Entrance $100BRL. [/QUOTE]I remember going to Cafe Gauguin 3 years ago simply because it was so convenient (right across the street from my hotel). The dollar was also stronger then. I met a nice girl there that won me over with her friendly and flirty attitude. Almost GFE-like. I saw her a couple nights, with one night actually going out on the town to a karaoke bar, dance club, and back to hotel (600 Real until the morning). It was worth it back then for the experience. Good times.
I just arrived in Sao Paolo for a few nights and while I'm tempted to go back to Gauguin, the prices seem pretty crazy now. I might check out an Augusta place tomorrow or Friday night.
Like Red Massagem, but I can't understand on the site if it's open Sunday. Do you know a clinica open Sunday?
Thanks
I agree with you. IMHO R 700-800 or more at the end of the night for sex is too much.
It is the never ending debate between look and service: what do you value most?
Cafe Photo girls look is among the best but is it so service?
If you think that in some cases you can get excellent service for those R 150 you pay there as entry fee.
[QUOTE=Micpas; 1161523]Entry fee 150R, bico seco (drinks not included).
Parking 20R.
Girl between 500-600R for 3 hours. At the end of the night, or for the less attractive, may be 400.
For me, not worth the money. Better to coose other places, less expenseve and better quality.
Girl's quality not sooo good, service generally rushed, difficult to find real GFE.
The girls seem to have the feeling to know they are working in the most upscale place of Sampa.
You realize that, someone look like piranhas, unpleasant.
Of course, with exceptions depending mainly on the chemistry, if she likes you, how you treat her, how money she is thinking to earn from you later. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gatelly; 1162138]Like Red Massagem, but I can't understand on the site if it's open Sunday. Do you know a clinica open Sunday?
Thanks[/QUOTE]No. Red Massagem is not open on Sunday.
Look at one of my former posts (February or March) where I list what is open on Sunday.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter; 1162149]I agree with you. IMHO R 700-800 or more at the end of the night for sex is too much.
It is the never ending debate between look and service: what do you value most?
Cafe Photo girls look is among the best but is it so service?
If you think that in some cases you can get excellent service for those R 150 you pay there as entry fee. [/QUOTE]Just to complete your right comment, also not always the look of the girls is so beautiful.
Keep off the make up and you will see.
I would say only 20% of the girls would deserve to enter the place, now.
Yes, for me quality has downgraded a lot, but just my opinion.
I still remember the former Cafe Photo, or the WE (then WE garden) , or Bahamas. Other times, unfortunately.
In my opinion, as you say, can get more for less, and not only in terms of service, also beauty
Hi there,
I was born and raised in Sao Paulo so portuguese definetely isn't a problem. Long ago I settled down in Australia and in the end of the last year I returned for good to Sao Paulo. It's been hard to readapt myself to this environment so you may say I feel the pain like you guys do when being ripped off in some ocasions.
First off. Sao Paulo is bloody expensive! My aussie dollars / bank account cry out loud everytime I go to ATM to withdraw some money. Nightlife is almost out of question because the entry fees are so freakin' expensive and at the moment I'm not working just planning my next steps. In the other hand I've been to two or three pubs as "civilian" and one of 'them I'd recomend. It's called Dublin, Itaim and I remember seeing fews english lads and they got lucky. All of them. Entry fee I reckon was R$40 (no drinks).
Mongering. I haven't had the chance yet but I do live close to Cafe Bamboa in Jardins area. As far as I know it is R$100 to get in and GDP's range from R$300/600. In my local Padaria I always bump into these WG and there are 2 or 3 stunners (8. 5-9 out 10) but they're mostly average (6-7 out 10). Has anyone been there? For this price I'd choose Cinthia Santos (brazilian porn actress) rather than an average Jane.
Some mentioned GPGuia and I second to that. It is the most reliable brazilian source, regardless of the city, to get information about the GPD's, price, location and services. They have something called "Test Drive" and you can count the thumbs up and down to make up your mind before wasting your money as well describing how the service is provided. BBBJ, anal, GFriend type, punctuality, hygine, etc. And of course reviews of Prives, Termas and Massagens.
Being a massive football fan I can tell Morumbi definetely won't take part in the World Cup. A new stadium is being build in Itaquera but of course this is Brazil and there are a lot of unanswered questions such as if it is going to be ready for the World Cup or even worse if going to be ever built. And Sui Generis you info about Sao Paulo is really good, the only reservation I'd have about you is that now you're a Santos fan "betraying" Corinthians. LOL.
I'll take you to see a Corinthians home game played in Pacaembu and this will for sure change your mind for whom you should root for.
Remember, this is Sao Paulo & Brazil. Be safe and happy.