Saint Petersburg

[QUOTE=Explorer69]My point was that TV tells it is bad for Russian girls to meet foreigners! Foreigners are not to be trusted![/QUOTE]Well, can't be worst anyway..

Some years ago to be a foreigner, was a very good point. In fact, too easy. You didn't have to do anything. Even the worst guy could pick up beautiful girl.

Then came "Capitalism" very very fast. And to be a foreigner became a HUGE disadvantage with girls. They prefer local men: more easy to manipulate, they spend 100% of their money for the girls, speak Russian.

Now we have "Capitalism" + "Feminism", not like in Western Europe or USA, but you have to work it to get the beauties. It means you have to speak good Russian and work your ass to make the girls forget you are a foreigner..

Things move fast in this world.

So what is new?
Most Russians don't like foreigners of any kind and they don't hide their feelings
Long have gone the times when typical russian girl though that marriage with foreigner will be everlasting fairy tale. Foreign men can be pigs the same way as russian men.
The program was probably right with conclusion that foreigners only want sex with russian girls. But somehow I doubt they mention that great majority of those foreigners pays money for that sex - thus supporting the local economy.
Foreigner usually pays his hotel or apartment, pays his lunch in high class restaurant, pays drinks both for him and the girls, etc. Most of us here know how things work when you come to Russia and where your money ends.

[QUOTE=Kurenda]So what is new?
Most Russians don't like foreigners of any kind and they don't hide their feelings
Long have gone the times when typical russian girl though that marriage with foreigner will be everlasting fairy tale. Foreign men can be pigs the same way as russian men.
The program was probably right with conclusion that foreigners only want sex with russian girls. But somehow I doubt they mention that great majority of those foreigners pays money for that sex - thus supporting the local economy.
Foreigner usually pays his hotel or apartment, pays his lunch in high class restaurant, pays drinks both for him and the girls, etc. Most of us here know how things work when you come to Russia and where your money ends.[/QUOTE]I agree with Kurenda on the above points, but do not agree that one's chances in St.Petersburg are going down. Personally I think it is better now than during the boom years 2005-2008 when being a foreigner was like having the plague for some girls.

a) Russians don't like foreigners.

Absolutely true, especially among Russian men. They might have foreign friends and admire certain things about foreign countries, but in candid moments they will reveal their distrust and disrepect for foreigners. Foreigner is a pretty broad term however, from Europeans and Americans to Caucasians, Arabs and Asians.

Women are less distrusting and disrespecting and many have a genuine attraction to foreigners for a number of reasons (money is actually not the main reason in most cases), but they also know that most foreigners coming to Russia are looking to get a piece of Russian ass. They also know of their reputation as being easy girls, so you'll have to work your way around this issue.

Thankfully, they really are pretty easy girls overall.

b) Foreign men can be pigs.

Our reputation is mixed. On the one hand girls like the way foreigners are more romantic to Russian girls then the locals often are (but don't underestimate the locals in this sense), on the other hand they understand what we are after.

Nonetheless, most girls do not think of foreign men as pigs IMO, just as perhaps being false in their promises.

c) Foreign sex tourists bring money to Russia

I think this is overestimated. Russia isn't Ukraine, which is a genuine sex tourist destination. The vast majority of fucking going on in salons is Russian on Russian and the foreign sex clients are usually either genuine tourists looking for some fun on the side, businessmen or expats living/working in Russia.

Any income helps, but I've never gotten the impression that Russia was a sex tourist destination to the same extent that Ukraine is.

d) The Golden Age is over.

The Golden Age was already over in 2002. IMO however things have improved in comparison to 2005-2008 when the booming Russian economy and the availability of easy credit gave the local boys a lot of spending cash and allowed the traditionally patriotic Russians to be among themselves and "show the foreigners" who is boss. The attitude was "the world comes to Russia, Russia does not come to the world" and foreigners were increasingly looked upon with contempt. The wind has been taken out of their sails somewhat however and Russian girls have rediscovered the foreign man as a source of lifestyle. Interestingly enough, I think the idea of marrying a foreigner is forever gone. Of course some still will, but the whole "marry a foreigner and escape" is really passe.. not only due to a better economy (even in the crisis it is still much, much better than in the 90's) but also due to the many reports of failed marriages to foreigners.

I'm finding it really much easier in the last 6 months than it was in the past 3 years. Biggest key though, and this can't be repeated enough:

Learn conversational Russian at least and have a reason to be there/reason to come back.

At least 50% of my freebie action would never have happened if I didn't speak some Russian.

[QUOTE=Explorer69]She told me a few days ago there was a program on Russian TV about foreign men and Russian girls! The conclusion of this program was that all foreigners were pigs, just coming to Russia to fuck as many girls as possible, never wanting a relation, only sex! The moral was: Russian girls should keep away from the bad foreigners!...[/QUOTE]What was the channel Explorer69 ? Perhaps they have this documentary in streaming.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I agree with Kurenda on the above points, but do not agree that one's chances in St.Petersburg are going down. Personally I think it is better now than during the boom years 2005-2008 when being a foreigner was like having the plague for some girls.

a) Russians don't like foreigners.

Absolutely true, especially among Russian men. They might have foreign friends and admire certain things about foreign countries, but in candid moments they will reveal their distrust and disrepect for foreigners. Foreigner is a pretty broad term however, from Europeans and Americans to Caucasians, Arabs and Asians.

Women are less distrusting and disrespecting and many have a genuine attraction to foreigners for a number of reasons (money is actually not the main reason in most cases), but they also know that most foreigners coming to Russia are looking to get a piece of Russian ass. They also know of their reputation as being easy girls, so you'll have to work your way around this issue.

Thankfully, they really are pretty easy girls overall.

b) Foreign men can be pigs.

Our reputation is mixed. On the one hand girls like the way foreigners are more romantic to Russian girls then the locals often are (but don't underestimate the locals in this sense), on the other hand they understand what we are after.

Nonetheless, most girls do not think of foreign men as pigs IMO, just as perhaps being false in their promises.

c) Foreign sex tourists bring money to Russia

I think this is overestimated. Russia isn't Ukraine, which is a genuine sex tourist destination. The vast majority of fucking going on in salons is Russian on Russian and the foreign sex clients are usually either genuine tourists looking for some fun on the side, businessmen or expats living/working in Russia.

Any income helps, but I've never gotten the impression that Russia was a sex tourist destination to the same extent that Ukraine is.

d) The Golden Age is over.

The Golden Age was already over in 2002. IMO however things have improved in comparison to 2005-2008 when the booming Russian economy and the availability of easy credit gave the local boys a lot of spending cash and allowed the traditionally patriotic Russians to be among themselves and "show the foreigners" who is boss. The attitude was "the world comes to Russia, Russia does not come to the world" and foreigners were increasingly looked upon with contempt. The wind has been taken out of their sails somewhat however and Russian girls have rediscovered the foreign man as a source of lifestyle. Interestingly enough, I think the idea of marrying a foreigner is forever gone. Of course some still will, but the whole "marry a foreigner and escape" is really passe.. not only due to a better economy (even in the crisis it is still much, much better than in the 90's) but also due to the many reports of failed marriages to foreigners.

I'm finding it really much easier in the last 6 months than it was in the past 3 years. Biggest key though, and this can't be repeated enough:

Learn conversational Russian at least and have a reason to be there/reason to come back.

At least 50% of my freebie action would never have happened if I didn't speak some Russian.[/QUOTE]I still have the feeling that Russian girls in general like foreigners. But in principle I agree with everything you write!

My girl was just on top of me in the sofa, sitting on me for a serious fuck, then stood up, stumbled and the glass table in front of the sofa is now history! I will probably have to pay it tomorrow. But it was quite fun!

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I've been robbed twice by the cops in St.Petes... not shook down, robbed.

I posted on it before, nothing shameful about it. Happened in a 10-year time span with dozens of late-night adventures in between, so no need for paranoia... just know that the police are to be avoided.

Once on a Nevsky sidestreet and once on Konnueshnaya Ploshad.

First time I was really drunk and actually only lost a phone, second time considerably less drunk and very aware of what was going on. Got into a bit of a pointing and shouting match with them and was fighting impluses to punch one of them in the face. Would of been a disaster of course. Swedish diplomat ended up coming to my rescue, but not before I was about 4000 rubels lighter. In my fervor of defending passport, phone and wallet I forgot my jacket pocket.

Oh well. Diplomat by the way told me I was lucky that all I lost was my money. Much worse has happened many times to foreigners and Russians alike.

I'll say it again, avoid walking late at night in St.Petersburg if you've been drinking. Take a taxi.[/QUOTE]I was shaken down by about 4 cops right outside the Oktyabrskaya Hotel. They said they were loooking for drugs. I was drunk and with a chick, and left my ID in the hotel. I intentionally only had about $40 in case I got pickpocketed, which they took. Scared me at first, then I realized the game they were playing.

Raya, Nevsky. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

This is my hundredth post on this forum, so I hope it could be as good as Raya! She is new in this business so her profession hasn't left a mark on her yet. She is very true in expressing her emotions and is not automatic at all.

I made a call to the salon, and was given a choice of girls when I came, there were a few candidatures that I thought were nice. I chose Raya. The room and shower and everything were ready for me. All very good level.

Here are Raya's parameters: Height about 150-155 cm, no more, bust either size 2 or 3, but very nice shape and firmness. Nice figure, no extra fats. Raya says, that she goes in for sports. Age about 19-20, weight 45 kilos. In other words, a very petite and slim girl. She smelled good and was equally nice with her clothes off. She looks much better than in her photo.

In the process she told me that she was new and asked to correct her if she does a thing the way she shouldn't. Oral sex was good for a beginner, occasionally she would use her hand to assist. But quickly got my hint, and afterwards it was all fine. The main process was in various positions, I made a shot in doggy style – the view of her firm and round hips turned me on and helped to reach the climax. Raya allows to be touched to a reasonable extent.

On the whole Raya has a very friendly and positive attitude, she's sociable, but light and unobtrusive. She is a very good choice for the lovers of small bodies and not yet glamorized girls. Another pretty little baby.

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Lena, Marata 73, tel. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

Lena is a good-looking girl and she is even better in reality than in the photos. She is very friendly, gave me some cake when I ordered tea.

Excellent sex, exquisite caresses, has a girl-friend attitude, likes to tease her customer before giving him a blow job. The blow job was deep and good, she licked me all over, giving very pleasant sensations. It's difficult to describe, but her caresses made me feel fantastic.

I could not restrain myself any longer and we switched on to classical sex. It was very good, too. Lena wasn't automatic at all, she was obviously enjoying the process, got wet quickly, and I climaxed soon after we changed position. We took a break and I had tea and Lena offered me a cake. She didn't stop rubbing against me even when I was having tea. The second approach was even better than the first one. Lena is very active, likes to take the initiative. She's a very friendly and sociable girl. I will most certainly visit her again!

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[QUOTE=Explorer69]I still have the feeling that Russian girls in general like foreigners. But in principle I agree with everything you write![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Women are less distrusting and disrespecting and many have a genuine attraction to foreigners for a number of reasons (money is actually not the main reason in most cases), but they also know that most foreigners coming to Russia are looking to get a piece of Russian ass. They also know of their reputation as being easy girls, so you'll have to work your way around this issue.
[/QUOTE]Actually I DID write that I feel that Russian girls in general still like foreigners, even though they still need foreigners to "go through the motions" when it comes to courting them. In general though, comparing my success to that of my Russian friends, Russian girls put out much much faster with me than they do with Russian guys... at least among my friends. They're decent presentable guys too, so not sure where the problem is.

I think curiousity is one of the issues and thankfully many Russian girls know that as a foreigner you aren't really relationship material for them like a local would be, so they might as well enjoy the ride.

It's not always the case, but I've been often surprised how realistic Russian girls are about this.

Another thing is that they realise that the local boys (at least the average local boys) aren't spending any money on them anymore. No dinners, less blowout club nights. There is less cash flow in the local dating pool. Kind of took the wind out of the sails of some of the local wannabe big shots.

There are still the cold shark women out there too, but they are easily avoided and so easy to spot. I'm happy to let the locals blow their coin on them.[QUOTE=Explorer69]My girl was just on top of me in the sofa, sitting on me for a serious fuck, then stood up, stumbled and the glass table in front of the sofa is now history! I will probably have to pay it tomorrow. But it was quite fun![/QUOTE]Haha, that's good stuff.

I've destroyed various lamps and pieces of furniture over the years too. Unless it's a Ming vase, it's worth the memories for sure. Those IKEA beds really aren't sex-worthy by the way either.

I remember a couple of years back when I broke a vase hammering away on a tochka pro. The apartment agency wrote me an angry letter afterwards saying how I must pay for this expensive item etc. etc.

I was worried and asked them how much? $12.

Haha. Should have destroyed the entire apartment for $50. ))

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I think curiousity is one of the issues and thankfully many Russian girls know that as a foreigner you aren't really relationship material for them like a local would be, so they might as well enjoy the ride.

It's not always the case, but I've been often surprised how realistic Russian girls are about this.[/QUOTE]I can only say AMEN!

Toma is a new girl that appeared at Kamennoostrovskiy prospekt in St-Petersburg. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. Visited her not so long ago – I always have luck with new girls. She is tall, 173 cm, bust 3, 24 years old. Toma has long legs and nice hips along with a very slim waist that look very nice.

Toma is new in the business, so she tries hard to please, whispering all kinds of encouraging words all the time. Sounds very natural and seductive.

Her pussy is nice and neat and tight – as good as you can expect of any high class escort girl!

Toma's oral sex is very tender and soft, with kisses covering all surrounding areas. She turns on in the process. Plus a wonderful hand job using both hands – I enjoyed it.

I had two shots with Toma in 2 hours, I almost thought my heart would stop from the resonance of our mutual climax.

What else?.The girl is smart and intelligent. I liked her very much and could most certainly recommend her.

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Cristina. What made me feel so good.

Last week we went to Stepanych's sauna and asked to bring the girls from Fontanka salon. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

Some very attractive girls, all smiling and in good mood were sent to us/ I was surprised. And I chose Cristina. I remembered her by the photo. She was friendly, with a nice and slim body.

Cristina went to the steam room with me without a protest and afterwards jumped into the cold water screaming as she did it while her body was getting used to the contrast.

Then we made love. I've been lucky with the girls lately – the sex was good. I had a complete illusion of a non-professional girl in good sense of the word. Firm nice breasts cup size two, soft and velvety skin and her immediate response to all desires.

The girl is very polite and keeps up conversation willingly. My second shot with her was even better as I didn't expect it happen at all due to my age. But you can go on forever with such a partner. Now I hope you can understand what made me feel so good.

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Ilona, Kamni-1, [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

I decided to try the express tariff at Kamni-1. So I listed to the short instructions given by the salon administrator over the telephone and shortly arrived Kamni-1. I was shown 4 girls and selected Ilona, because of her slim figure with really big tits! Her body looked very much like in the photo. After waiting a few more minutes I was taken upstairs to a very clean and cozy room with a shower. So I took a shower, and when the girl joined me and threw off the towel I was really impressed by her beautiful big breasts.

I am really lucky with oral sex lately and Ilona gave me excellent oral sex that was very deep. My shot came when Ilona sat on top of me. Half an hour passed quickly and to my full satisfaction I got all I wanted from it.

So in the end I could describe the salon interior as excellent, attitude to the customer – excellent, oral sex and classical sex also excellent.

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Pr. Prosvesheniya/33. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

Dashen'ka became the first pros in my life and I must admit everything was just super, I was altogether happy with her. It was Dasha whom I planned to visit, so I refused to see all the other girls in the salon.

I was a bit nervous, that's way I was glad when Dasha took the initiative in her hands (or it was rather her mouth). Dasha had a full cup see breast, velvety skin and 100% likeness to her photo.

I had two shots with her – one from oral sex and the other from classical sex. I was glad that she looked and sounded very natural and that she would take the used condom off herself.

As I was nervous, my second time was all thanks to Dasha's excellent oral sex, after which she sat on top of me. She was obviously enjoying the process and I caught up her passion. I managed to come in spite of administrator's knock on the door signaling the time was out.

The administrator also did her job very well quickly helping me with all arrangements.

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