South China - Guangzhou

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1125701]Sorry Criss, I can't help you this time form the prosaic reason, I don't speak Chinese enough as well. Nevertheless I've never had problems with my needs explanation. Words and phrases thread should be enough, anyways you can also use motions to tell what you want.

If I'm right, youll be there just after CP visit and you are going to meet BSD so, I'm sure he can give You some quick training.

Have fun.

AF[/QUOTE]Asia Fan, you are so good oriented in Guangzhou that I supposed, that you speak Chinese well, never mind! You're right, in CP BSD will be our guide so I will make some some practice. Anyway, if you will be in Guangzhou when we come I invite you for a drink or beer, if you like. Just PM me!

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1125626]AsiaFan, really thanks for that detailed info. I know, that these place can operate or not, I think that we can check part of them and after leave here some report. I'll be there together with Jacher and some other friends.

My question is if you can post here some Chinese names for HE or FS. Our mandarin is close to nothing, and better is to know how to communicate what we want is place like sauna or that Oriental massage. Yes, I know that probably I can find it in section about words and phrases, but Guangzhou is mostly cantonese, that's why I ask. Because maybe in Guangzhou there are some specific phrases for that.

Anyway, for all who are posting in that thread, let's try to make that Guangzhou thread alive. Not as dead as it was last times![/QUOTE]Chinese is indeed helpful if you want to specify what type of girl you want. If you want more of a GFE experience, then you'll need to tell them that's what you want, because some guys actually like girls that act kind of shy and are really "si1wen2". I live in Guangzhou and I can take you all to a place or two if you want to have a more authentic sort of cultural experience. I know the mamasan pretty well at one place in particular, and she'll have the girls do a lineup for me whenever I go. That's a better way to roll. Some of the girls will give your hands access to various parts of their body, too, so this place is always fun.

[QUOTE=Mcdawg;1125969]Chinese is indeed helpful if you want to specify what type of girl you want. If you want more of a GFE experience, then you'll need to tell them that's what you want, because some guys actually like girls that act kind of shy and are really "si1wen2". I live in Guangzhou and I can take you all to a place or two if you want to have a more authentic sort of cultural experience. I know the mamasan pretty well at one place in particular, and she'll have the girls do a lineup for me whenever I go. That's a better way to roll. Some of the girls will give your hands access to various parts of their body, too, so this place is always fun.[/QUOTE]Hey Mcdawg,

Sounds like you know Guangzhou pretty well and it would be interesting to see how much it's changed since I last spent any real time there. How can I contact you? You could also PM me your contact info, thanks.

SF

Mcdawg, great to hear it, I'm sure that we can try your proposition! Please PM me with some contact details. Can you post here some price level of that place you mentioned. It's good to plan the budget.

Regards

[QUOTE=Mcdawg; 1125601]Alright, fellas, I'm no expert, but I do speak fluent Chinese and have been doing some field research on the mongering scene here.

Guangzhou has changed fundamentally since the Asian Games. It's doubtful it will ever be what it used to be, as far as the mongering goes. Guangzhou is trying to improve it's international appeal by presenting itself as a clean, safe, and efficiently run city (even though we all know what things are really like under the surface). That said, there's still some fun to be had if you play your cards right.

There are saunas literally everywhere, but they don't all advertise themselves in English. Pretty much all of them offer "special" services, but these are typically HJ, BJ and / or topless HJ / BJ. Prices largely depend on the quality of facilities and location. I've experienced topless HJ for 258RMB in Guangzhou, as well as two girl HJ massage for $468. A bit of luck is involved here, though, as I've had some very GFE type experiences and some very sterile work-a-day types.

Thus far I don't know of any FS places, but some of the girls are willing to meet outside the sauna, so be sure to ask her if you're interested. Taking her back to your place can happen for anywhere between 400RMB to 600RMB, and these are for pretty hot girls. You need to be sure to ask the mama-san or papa-san for a good-looking girl, though. If you want thin and beautiful, try asking in English, but if that doesn't work, say "wo3 yao4 piao4liang4 miao4tiao2 yi4dian3 de nv3hai2zi" if you can decipher that.

If you want recommendations for specific places and locations, message me privately.

Happy mongering, and be sure to write reports! [/QUOTE]I have been telling others the same thing. So many times on the forum people have said there are "so many" FS saunas in Guangzhou but yet they are never identified. There are tons of saunas here but FS is almost nonexistent. So I go to the regular saunas and get the HJ / prostate massage and get the provider's phone number. Hasn't failed yet and I have gotten 8s and 9s to come to my place all day for 300¥. Even took one out of Shui Bo that did CIM and anal for 400¥ all night. Each one has been GFE as well. So guys. Go to a sauna and ask nicely to see a lineup. Ask the numbers of the ones you like and then try them for massage / HJ. As long as you are nice to them they will come to your place for 500¥ or less. I've also taken numerous girls out of one place and never had any problems.

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1126095]I have been telling others the same thing. So many times on the forum people have said there are "so many" FS saunas in Guangzhou but yet they are never identified. There are tons of saunas here but FS is almost nonexistent. So I go to the regular saunas and get the HJ / prostate massage and get the provider's phone number. Hasn't failed yet and I have gotten 8s and 9s to come to my place all day for 300¥. Even took one out of Shui Bo that did CIM and anal for 400¥ all night. Each one has been GFE as well. So guys. Go to a sauna and ask nicely to see a lineup. Ask the numbers of the ones you like and then try them for massage / HJ. As long as you are nice to them they will come to your place for 500¥ or less. I've also taken numerous girls out of one place and never had any problems.[/QUOTE]I forgot to say YMMV! I'm rather young so the girls don't mind coming out with me. A few have told me they don't want to be seen out with older foreigners.

Good to see Guangzhou thread came back to the game.

Criss, I'm quite familiar with Guangzhou because I'm there few times a year. However, still far from an expert. Let's be in touch by PM.

Ixgzca, I can see that you are not a beginner what your first post suggested, It changes a lot. I'm rather youg as well and have to agree it helps a lot. Direct contacts with providers from massage parlours are one of the best possibilities to have FS indeed but, you can catch very hot chicks from the clubs as well.

Mcdawg, good to have someone on place who is so familar with the business. We'll be in touch.

AF

For those of you thinking about tracking down to CP during Canton Fair, I sugges that you make your reservations now so you can lock in to the rate and have your hotel of choice still be available as usually it will be very crowded in CP during that time. Hotel rooms in CP are already full from Thursday through Sunday so if you plan on coming down to CP at that time, make your reservations early.

The schedule for the fair is as follows:

Phase 1: April 15. 19, 2011 9:30. 18:00.

Phase 2: April 23. 27, 2011 9:30. 18:00.

Phase 3: May 1. May 5, 2011 9:30. 18:00.

BSD

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1126214]Good to see Guangzhou thread came back to the game.

Criss, I'm quite familiar with Guangzhou because I'm there few times a year. However, still far from an expert. Let's be in touch by PM.

Ixgzca, I can see that you are not a beginner what your first post suggested, It changes a lot. I'm rather youg as well and have to agree it helps a lot. Direct contacts with providers from massage parlours are one of the best possibilities to have FS indeed but, you can catch very hot chicks from the clubs as well.

Mcdawg, good to have someone on place who is so familar with the business. We'll be in touch.

AF[/QUOTE]Hey Asia Fan. Sorry about the misunderstanding. I only came off as a newb in an attempt to help the newbs. I'm young but I have been around. Mongered in every continent except Australia and North America. I live in Guangzhou full time for now, so I'm pretty well versed in the goings on around here. When asked about mongering most people will only say "Oh, before the Asian Games you could go here and here and here could blah blah blah". I agree since I was here before the asian games, but that is all in the past. Everyone wants to know about Guangzhou now. The beautification of the city came at a great cost to mongerers. So a clear and concise list would be great. I think before you said something about people not posting it for "obvious reasons". I'm not sure what these obvious reasons could be. Maybe LE lurking? But hey guys. This is China. The LE doesn't need to lurk here to find these places. They already know. LOL. I have a few days off coming up and I will be going to some more saunas in search of FS. Take out is great but sometimes you just don't want the hassle. After these next few trips I will do the list myself. Which honestly will probably only be one or two more than the ones already listed.

As far as clubs. This kinda of goes without saying. Yes, girls are available in clubs. It takes more work but totally doable. And actually I would say the girls that I have taken from spas / saunas look better than the usual chicks hanging around in the clubs. Unless you are talking about Kama, but that is a different animal (Kama is good if you like foreign girls). But I prefer the sauna scene. KTVs are ok too, but I usually only go to meet a girl and then just see her on her off time. PM me if you're around Asia Fan. Maybe we can make a few rounds in Guangzhou. I'm 24 and don't drink but people tell me I'm pretty cool to be around. Haha.

Oh. And my inquiry still stands. Anyone with info on a FS sauna (operating post-Asian Games) please share!

[QUOTE=Criss Thor;1123491]Meiguoguizi, your answer is very clear. The only problem is that I done all that points allready. But I (with some friends) need to spend 4 days in CP (that's why I did allready what you suggested) and AFTER that spend 4 days in Guangzhou without taking every day the train to CP from Guangzhou. So let's say, that funny part of our trip is first part. 4 days in CP, but what about the second part in Guangzhou? Really nothing to do? Just normal body and foot massage? : Maybe some hanky panky massage if not Full service?[/QUOTE]I know of a sauna at Shamian next to the Victory hotel. Victory hotel has an east and west wing on Shamian. I think it's the west wing you want to live in. Next to that hotel there's a sauna. Actually situated on the 3rd floor of the hotel but you cannot access it immediately through the hotel.

Sauna with bathing, scrubbing back. And then picking girls. Been there once a few years ago, girls were not that hot perhaps a 5, but beats nothing. Victory hotel is 4 stars

Hey Ixgzca. Now everything is totally clear. To be honest, my eperince is based on the pre-Asian Games period of time so please, do not scare me that so many things has changed within last 3 month. I've beed there last time between the cantonfair and the AG. My next trip is scheduled on the first week of may so the 3rd fair phase. I'll arrive to China 2 weeks earlier but firstly I visit factories aroud the Shanghai, then move to dongguan (CP mongering.) and the guangzhou afterwards. I'm definately interesting in some common sauna raids.
My "obvious reasons" was LE indeed. Probably you are right saying they know everything very well but if not, why to make their life easier, anyway.

Is that real the saunas situation after the AG not coming back to normal again? I hope not.

I'll let you know about my places, lets be in touch by PM.

AF

Guys, I'm proud a little bit, that finally together we made that thread more "fresh".

I will PM you about that places you mentioned. BTW, what you mean saying "young"? . Do you treat man before 40 as young or allready old? .

Need to know, what is the chance.

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1127134]Guys, I'm proud a little bit, that finally together we made that thread more "fresh".

I will PM you about that places you mentioned. BTW, what you mean saying "young"? . Do you treat man before 40 as young or allready old? .

Need to know, what is the chance. [/QUOTE]Hi Criss.

I'm happy we refreshed this thread as well. I'll be waiting for your PM after you are back.
I can't say about the age in Ixgzcas name but I'm 33 so, in my pov still young.

Enjoy your trip to China as much as possible but remember to play safe.

AF

Hi all,

I was in Guangzhou last year but couldn't score much due to my tight schedule. This time I'll need to stay around 2 weeks in March. I'm not a newbie and always reciprocate. Last time I was stayed on Ocean hotel. I love the Huangshi Dong Lu road but Ocean hotel was expensive. Is there any cheap hotel in the vicinity of Ocean hotel? My budget is USD50 / night.

On a separate note, can you guys recommend any travel companion I hear so much about. Is it really worth?

Thanks

Managed to find old post by Old Asia Hand to my query last year! He recommended San Mao hotel. Is it any good? How about Blue Sky hotel in the same area?