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[QUOTE=Cwerburg99; 1513189]Hi guys,

She then says, no. I want 3000.

I said what the fuck. 3000, I already paid the barfine of 2000.

She goes that money is for the club and my charge is 3000.

I said, fuck no, I'm not giving you 3000.

So I realised I'm getting fleeced here, so she sat down and said she's not going until she gets 3000.

So I pull out another 300p in smaller notes and aid, here, thats all I have. She still refuses and wants 3000.

I said I got no more, and no you go.

And she started saying come back to the pittstop and you speak to the mamasan, she not tell you, you need to give me 3000.

I said nope, I'm not going anywhere.

She refused to leave, so I said, I'm phoning security downstairs, she goes thats fine.

I sat there and lit up a cig, just staring at her, then she goes, ok I'm going but you are in trouble and I will get someone to take money from you.

I didn't say anything, she left, and I closed and locked my door.

2 mins later, I get a call from security to say,"sir, your guest is leaving now", I said, yup.

So, yes, I got fleeced for an extra 300p, but with that kind of attitude, I got fleeced for 800p.

This is at the pittstop bar in edsa complex, so if others are reading this, please be aware that they will take advantage of a foreigner that has never been to this country and never barfined before.

I'm heading into Angelese Tomm with a completely different attitude now.

I will not be shy, I will not tell anyone that its my first trip, I will be nice with the girls, but I will call the shots.

I will be saying that I've been here a couple of times before, so that they don't rip me off.

Just because she knew I'm not staying in Manila, that's why she decided to rip me off.

Anyways, all in all, I paid 2800p for a great fuck and I'm still pretty happy.

But hell, I've learnt quite a bit from the experience too.

She was only with me for a couple of hours as well. She knew how to screw me.

She was kinda crap in bed as well, but she was hot, therefore the tip.

Has this ever happened to anyone else?[/QUOTE]Consider yourself lucky she did not cause you any drama. If you had read the Manila thread you would of seen that the girls expect a certain amount and you should of discussed it before leaving the bar.

500P in AC is a good tip, but sadly in Manila it is an insult. I now skip Manila and go directly to AC, as the pesos go further, no need for taxi and friendlier places to bar hop.

What are current prices in AC, are the BJ bars on Santos and Raymond still 700 to 800, what about the gogo bars and freelancers.

Thanks,

Chris

[QUOTE=NomadicMong; 1512019]Hi,

Returned to US after 10 days in AC. It is my 7th trip in 7 months to AC this year.

Few pointers for those want recent info

1. Christmas Crowd was very very less. Think about Dollhouse running empty that is house it has been for few days. It is such a thin crowd overall.

2. For some reason, Bar names are changing. Don't get surprised if you don't find your favorite bar. It is the same bar with same owner and manager. They are changing the names. One Eye Witch and Typhoon has changed the names to some thing like Manson or some thing else...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

Can you give current prices.

Chris

I'm interested in the answers to Chris Longs questions also.

I'll be in AC in a week and a half so it would be nice to have a heads up on the prices before I hit the ground running. Especially the Blow Row prices if they have changed.

I'm in AC now and surprised by the amounts the "freelancers" are demanding.

No, I don't mean the girls on the street, but the ones from DIA, facebook and the chat apps.

Several have asked for 3000p and rejected 1000p.

One gal who recently left her bar (one of the big bars) asked for 3k and rejected 2000p She's a facebook "friend", but we have never met, and now not likely to.

I guess they know the guys are paying 2000 to 3000p for barfines and expect the same, even though the bar takes a 50% cut.

A year or two ago I would give 1000p for short time and they seemed happy with that.

That's a helluva inflation!

A quick warning about freelancers and in-room safes.

I had dinner last night with an "old friend" who does some freelancing on the side and has some freelancer friends.

She told me about one of her freelancer friends who I know from a couple of years ago.

Her freelancer friend was taught how to open the hotel safes and stole a lot from a client in ABC. She sold the guy's stuff and wasted the cash on drugs.

Easy to google how to open the safe and I watched a pretty good video on youtube showing how to do it.

Very easy to do with some simple tools. The in room safes are very weak.

Also I read on tripadvisor a lot of complaints from guys about stuff being taken from their room safe in AC hotels. Those guys were accusing the hotel staff.

I'm now padlocking the wardrobe door as a bit of additional security.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Victorian; 1514332]I'm in AC now and surprised by the amounts the "freelancers" are demanding.

No, I don't mean the girls on the street, but the ones from DIA, facebook and the chat apps.

Several have asked for 3000p and rejected 1000p.

One gal who recently left her bar (one of the big bars) asked for 3k and rejected 2000p She's a facebook "friend", but we have never met, and now not likely to.

I guess they know the guys are paying 2000 to 3000p for barfines and expect the same, even though the bar takes a 50% cut.

A year or two ago I would give 1000p for short time and they seemed happy with that.

That's a helluva inflation![/QUOTE]Same prices as Manila, why bother to go so far away if the prices are the same?

[QUOTE=John Traveller; 1443328]Finally back in good old AC, it's like coming home, or is it? Somethings are the same here but something is different. The atmosphere. The many latest raids has changed that. This place has changed gradually over the years becoming less good for the average punter. Still it has remained good, but what now? Police in the streets, police holding up customers in the Kokomos restaurant, agents in bars, and bars being reluctant to do bf. All this is new for me.

SNIP.

Sorry about this pessimism. And I certainly hope I am wrong about this: it seems like this is the end of an era, I can only recommend the friends of the old AC to come back while we are still in 2013. There are still gems to be found if you look around in the few still friendly places.[/QUOTE]Happy New Year 2014, AC

Yet another visit to AC and I am happy to report that this place is the same as allways. No problem picking up women. Last July I wrote the above quote "The end of an era?", the scene was not good then for sure. Now it's all back to "normal". In fact I have had some of the best time here ever. All friendly bars and lots of beautiful girls.

The dirty alliance between the authorities and the NGOs are broken, and my guess that we will not see it again for the next five years, at least. Just a guess of course. The NGO's wanted to close down the whole scene, but then they discovered that the police wasn't really into that. The police just wanted to continue what they always have done, to get "their" bucks! A closed bar cannot give them those. So the NGOs gave up. The number of tourists was reduced though, but those numbers have started to climb again now.

The raiding season goes on from March until November, so also this year, but I think we will be back to the old pre-2013 type of raids. The doomsdayers will of course not agree with this, but they can never be proven wrong anyway, they will allways just extend their doomsday date further into the future.

So just come on down here and have a hellagood time!

Lots of good bars around now, so no reason to go to freelancer places and discos like High Society and Skytrax. IMO anyway, I find them boring.

Some recommended bars are,

Perimeter road: Modelline, Ice, Candy Bar, Dr Holms.

Field avenue: D'Club, La Bamba, and more.

Don't forget the smaller bars on the sidestreets nearby Fields!

Arrived AC after spending a few days in Manila. My reasons for coming here are personal, as well as for the gals. Just a few notes.

When I arrived here, had no hotel reservations. Came the 22th of December, and due to this being the highest of the high season, figured it might be difficult to find a room. Boy, I was wrong. Every hotel I went to had something, and nearly all offered me a room for under 1,500 p, and appeared would negotiate. Just few days ago walked up the perim noticed lots of really large, nice, new hotels, and what will / must go for a frigging fortune. I don't get it. Then again, ABC goes for a frigging fortune and appears to be doing well, while the place next to it, granted a sh*thole goes for 400 p; plenty of nice places right behind ABC for 1,000 to 1,500 p. Thinking hotel owners are under this "if we build it they will come" mentality; I'm thinking they'll get financially killed.

Like Pattaya, have a strong aversion to paying bar fines. AC is different, and you have to be careful about FLs. Whenever I see a gal on the street, I always ask her the base question: "Which bar do you work at?" Of course, they can lie, but I believe I have a sense about it (famous last words, eh?). Always get gals who are going from point A to point B, (as they are heading to / from work, Jolibees, High Society, etc.), preferably in groups, who work bars. Got one gal from Eruptions, another from Geckos, and a few other bars. Paid them 1000 p for ST and a small tip for cigarette money. I avoid FLs who "work the street" like the plague! Had also a few gals from Raymond for the usual 800 p. Santos is looking rather grim at the present. Paying 2,000 p to 3,000 p for a FL is absolute insanity, unless perhaps she's Korean.

Paid 150 pesos for Vit C at the money changer, two in a package. That said, thus far, never needed um.

As always, Kokomoz food is just terrible: Greasy, fried, crap. Margaretta-ville (I use it's traditional name) is great. And, of course so is the Mexican place, and those 45 p shawarmas.

Bars I recommend include on perimeter are Pony Tails, Brass Knob, and on Field's LaBamba and Lancelot (or is that Camelot. The one near Kokomoz, always mix them up). Shooters looked like a bunch of Billy Boys on stage.

Also highly recommended are Y-Bar, King of Diamonds, Kitten Club, The Club, and Jungle. Oops, those were from a decade ago. Oh well. Can I assume that Cuba Cuba is now closed?

Big problem with AC is not much to do daytime. Looking forward to Pattaya later on next month.

Think that's all to report.



--Popper

[quote=Popper1; 1514609]Big problem with AC is not much to do daytime.[/quote]Hi Popper,

I agree with you. In fact, we should open a thread where to discuss what to do during daytime in Angeles City (apart of looking for gals).

Good luck

So I am trying to figure out why I should go to AC instead of staying in Manila. If the prices are 2000 to 3000p that is what I am paying here. What is the reason to go if it the same price?

Can somebody give me the lowdown on why its better?

[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1514735]So I am trying to figure out why I should go to AC instead of staying in Manila. If the prices are 2000 to 3000p that is what I am paying here. What is the reason to go if it the same price?

Can somebody give me the lowdown on why its better?[/QUOTE]First, the barfine in AC varies form 1500P on Perimeter to the high side of 3000P in the big show bars on Fields.

Second, the barfine in all in and the tip is up to you. 500 pesos is an average tip and I give 1000P for multiple rounds and good GFE. I do not go to show bars or pay 3000P barfines.

Third, AC is basically a mongering town. There is not a lot to do, besides bar hopping and flucking.

IMO go to AC and start on Perimeter road, as the bars open earlier. Good bars are Candy Bar, Lost in Asia, and Det5.

Robbaf

Let me begin by saying that these are just my opinions, those of others may differ. My resume is as follows. Angeles 5x (coming again in April. Pun kind of intended) ; Manila / Makati 3x; Cebu 1x; Bangkok 2x; Pattaya 3x. So I get around. While I have plenty of good things to say about all the places I listed. I always wind up coming back to Angeles as my favorite locale to partake in female talent. Here's why:

First, there's no pretension about why you're there. If you're staying in AC near Fields you are looking to have sex with local girls. The hotel workers know it, the waiters and waitresses know it, the beggars on the street know it. Even the "good girls" who work at the mall or a call center know it. It's totally out in the open and you don't have to pretend you're "on business" or an eco-tourist looking to see waterfalls. I just booked my room at ABC and I emailed them to make sure that the bars would be open on Palm Sunday / Good Friday, etc. Here's the response I received. A direct cut and paste. "The bars are still open on the holy week Sir. So yes, the red light district will still have the lights on." How can you not love service like that? In Manila (especially in the nicer hotels in Makati) there are foreign travelers who are not looking to pillage the local talent. And some hotel workers will give you that knowing look / stare when they see you with a girl enough to be your daughter. It's accepted, but in that "we know what's going on but don't talk about it in public" sort of way. In AC the hotel staff will ask if you are OK if they see you come back to your room two nights in a row alone. Again. You have to love that.

Second, Everything in Angeles is located in close proximity. If you're in even moderately good shape you can walk everywhere. Fields, Perimeter, the Mall (that's kind of all there is). If you're tired, lazy, or it's hot. A trike will cost you maybe 100p (maybe less. I usually don't bother to negotiate as 100p means a lot more to them than it does to me).

Third, There are always pretty girls to be found. Yes, some will tell you that there are a lot of 4's. 5's and 6's in AC. And this is true. But there are always a couple of 8's or 9's in almost every bar at some point of time during the night. The volume of girls makes it almost impossible for you not to find what you are looking for. Just don't get too drunk too early.

Fourth, Almost all the girls speak enough English for you to have a basic but effective conversation with them. Some are actually quite skilled and make for excellent company (sadly they're usually not the 8's or 9's, but I'll take an enthusiastic 6 who doesn't describe herself as "simple" any day of the week)!

Now. On to what to do in Angeles. Sadly. During the day, the answer is not much. Your options are fairly limited. I don't play golf, but I hear that's available. If you stay at a hotel with a pool, a nice refreshing dip can hit the spot (if it's not raining). There are casinos and poker clubs. And you can always read a book or go to the mall and watch a movie. Perimeter bars open at around 2:00pm, so you can just slowly drink and chat with the ladies on any given afternoon (there are usually happy hour specials). Do not expect much culture or excellent food in AC. This is where Manila wins hands down. Ultimately you have to decide what you're looking to do and what is more important to you. I usually try to spend a few nights in Manila after going to AC. I find I appreciate the metropolitan nature of the city (which is a complete mad house by the way) once I've been in the country for a week or so.

[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1514735]So I am trying to figure out why I should go to AC instead of staying in Manila. If the prices are 2000 to 3000p that is what I am paying here. What is the reason to go if it the same price?

Can somebody give me the lowdown on why its better?[/QUOTE]Firstly I am not an AC visitor at this time, but have done so often in the past. The convenience of having thousands of women centrally located gives AC its competitive advantage. It's effortlessly easy. Depending on the length of your stay you can do different places everyday. In Ermita it's really just one place. Yes, there are a few others nearby, but really they don't have all that many girls. Burgos and EDSA have a better selection but it'll cost you much more. Metro Manila's advantage is the girls from the dating sites. You have to put in the effort, though. I prefer Manila for the variety and the better GFE. More to see and do out of the bed too.