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[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2271302]The dancers are the imports correct? I was interested in the inflated price. I've had 2 weeks worth of Thailand and Indonesian pussy. Never had a Russian or girl from that area. Never had Chinese either. I read somewhere hotel travel has Chinese imports. On my way there now to check it out.[/QUOTE]I did a Russian at Alexis. It was pretty good and not overly expensive. My memory could be slipping though. It was 5 years ago. No idea what's going on there now after they tried to close the place or whatevr.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2271345]So do bats and cj's girls do the CBJ's too? I would think it's just house rules at brothels. Am I correct? I have even offered crazy tips and these girls won't blink an eye.[/QUOTE]It will all depend on your personal hygiene. Pay attention the next time you are with the girls here. They would always want you to shower first before the deed and they will in fact shower you. They will wash your junk and conduct preliminary inspection along the way. If they find you are not clean, more likely they would reject any request for BBBJ.
It is probably the house rules in these spa joints. However, if the girl is comfortable with you and you are hygienic, BBBJ request is never an issue, at least for me. Girls at CJ and Bats are freelancers, but the same approach typically applies. It never hurt to keep yourself groomed and clean down there.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2271357]Only place I saw them try to blow with a condom was 5th floor of Classic Hotel. [/QUOTE]These girls will do 10 people per day on average. Now imagine that. Even if she offers to do BBJ, I will be the one to refuse.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2271345]So do bats and cj's girls do the CBJ's too? I would think it's just house rules at brothels. Am I correct? I have even offered crazy tips and these girls won't blink an eye.[/QUOTE]In my experience, free lancers never request a condom for the BJ. But I agree with Ggekko that the girls want you to be clean. I always shower prior to the deed and I also always have the girl shower.
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I'm very clean and shower every time before I go out. I shower before the deed and after. Haven't made it to malioboro yet. I think that will have to be on the agenda for tomorrow. Anyone know what time they open? I don't see it listed on google maps. Unless I'm confused, which is possible, it's in front of malio club. On Google maps its listed as the hotel but no hours.
Think I'm going to wonder down to bats now and check out the scene. I was downstairs grabbing food from grab guy and seen a few lookers stroll in.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2271405]I'm very clean and shower every time before I go out. I shower before the deed and after. Haven't made it to malioboro yet. I think that will have to be on the agenda for tomorrow. Anyone know what time they open? I don't see it listed on google maps. Unless I'm confused, which is possible, it's in front of malio club. On Google maps its listed as the hotel but no hours.
Think I'm going to wonder down to bats now and check out the scene. I was downstairs grabbing food from grab guy and seen a few lookers stroll in.[/QUOTE]Malio and Malioboro are basically one and the same since they are in the same building. Malio is in the back part, Malioboro is in the front part.
If I was staying at Hotel Shangri-La, I wouldn't even leave the building. I prefer BATS girls over the brothel girls.
As far as the covered BJ thing, another issue I believe is that some girls don't like it if a guy is not circumsized. The main issue though is that some of the mamasans in those places are forcing them to use them. We used to talk to the mamasan prior to taking a girl.
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Some topical points
On Imports: The current best bet for imports IMHO is Malioboro, lower mezzanine where there are tables with Chinese, Viet, Kazak, Russian Federation girls. On my still recent visit I had the pleasure of an Asian ethnic Kazak girl. 1st Kazak girl ever. Good girl. The 2nd best place is 1001 Hotel (Spa). More expensive, but plenty of Viet, Chinese, Russian Federation, and Kazak girls. In the past Alexis had a great selection of Viets. But alas Alexis is history. But if you really want white girls your best destination is Germany FKK's, then Sao Paulo, Brazil.
On BBBJ & BBFS YMMV, but here are my stats from my last Jakarta visit:
CBJ's: 12% or 2 girls total out of 16. Both girls working in 1001 Hotel Spa. I stopped going there after the 2nd one even though 2 other 1001 spa girls gave me BBBJ's no problem. Thus my percentage of CBJ's in 1001 Pool was 50%. Elsewhere 0. 0%. So Smoothy is absolutely right.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2271406]As far as the covered BJ thing, <snip> The main issue though is that some of the mamasans in those places are forcing them to use them. We used to talk to the mamasan prior to taking a girl.[/QUOTE]And when I complained to the management after my 2nd CBJ in a row at 1001 Hotel Pool, the mamasan & then the manager both insisted that that is exactly what their girls are instructed to do. I could not believe what they were saying, but it's true and I never went back to that bordello.
Note: no Malio / Malioboro girl ever gave me a CBJ or even tried. No Bats or CJ's FL ever tried to give me a CBJ either.
On BBFS 31% or 5 out of my 16 different girls that I shagged in Jakarta last visit.
Now while I consider BBBJ's the default and I will not tip or repeat with any girl that does not perform this basic function, it is an entirely different story with intercourse. Here the default is CFS (covered sex) and I do not complain or not tip a girl when a she requests a condom before intercourse. On the other hand, I occasionally get a hot one / a naughty one and as long as I am willing too, we will bareback. For me BBFS is always kind of unexpected and almost always appreciated. HA HA. As I posted above, my Jakarta stats are 31%. My BKK stats are 20%. I fondly remember my 1st trip to the PI back in 2011. I visited AC, Manila, and Cebu City. My stats on that 1st trip where an astounding, 100%. I barebacked every Filipina I was with. Ha Ha. I have since cut that stat back quite a lot on purpose, but it was quite an auspicious 1st trip.
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Wow, what a night, I have mongered all over the world but man, this place here in Jakarta can be what I call the sharkiest place in the world. And this place is called the Golden Crown. I am not sure if I am in the right state of mind to write out the narratives of what I had experienced, but I was lucky enough to have a local patron navigate me through this labyrinth of shark infested freelancers.
I would try to narrate my experience later as I am still way too drunk to explain what had happened. Based on my estimate, it was a good USD400 lessons learned. No wonder I do not see any foreigners at the golden crown, LOL. One thing I can say, this lounge was the only place which was packed with people of a Tuesday night. My recommendation, stay as far was from Golden Crown as possible and stick to CJ and BATS for the freelancers, hehe. You have been warned.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2271300]I'm surprised you didn't let slip in the bar. The kid would have been mobbed and thrown to the floor there and then.[/QUOTE]So true. Back in the old days of Tanamur, it was a popular game for the girls to try to find white expat boys around 14 or 15 years old who were virgins. The girls would brag about how many virgins they did. Not many guys that age were at Tanamur, so the girls would go to the McDonalds in Sarinah and pick them up there then return to Tanamur after having sex with them. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2271522]So true. Back in the old days of Tanamur, it was a popular game for the girls to try to find white expat boys around 14 or 15 years old who were virgins. The girls would brag about how many virgins they did. Not many guys that age were at Tanamur, so the girls would go to the McDonalds in Sarinah and pick them up there then return to Tanamur after having sex with them. LOL.[/QUOTE]Talk about role reversal.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2271520]Wow, what a night, I have mongered all over the world but man, this place here in Jakarta can be what I call the sharkiest place in the world. And this place is called the Golden Crown. I am not sure if I am in the right state of mind to write out the narratives of what I had experienced, but I was lucky enough to have a local patron navigate me through this labyrinth of shark infested freelancers.
I would try to narrate my experience later as I am still way too drunk to explain what had happened. Based on my estimate, it was a good USD400 lessons learned. No wonder I do not see any foreigners at the golden crown, LOL. One thing I can say, this lounge was the only place which was packed with people of a Tuesday night. My recommendation, stay as far was from Golden Crown as possible and stick to CJ and BATS for the freelancers, hehe.[/QUOTE]I recommended Golden Crown to someone here not long ago and he was saying it was closed down. Sounds like it is still open. I haven't been there in a while, but it is a place where you can pick up young free lancers. I am curious how you could spend 400 usd there though unless you got one of the big private rooms. That should be an interesting report!
I think the reason you don't see many foreigners there is the girls who go there won't go home with you until 5 or 6am because they are there to get high and don't want to go home until their high wears off, and most foreigners in town have to work the next morning. I don't have the patience to wait them out even if I didn't work the next morning. Very few of the girls there speak English but there are tons of young free lance girls there for the guys who complain about free lancers being old at the places where they do speak English.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2271525]I recommended Golden Crown to someone here not long ago and he was saying it was closed down. Sounds like it is still open. I haven't been there in a while, but it is a place where you can pick up young free lancers. I am curious how you could spend 400 usd there though unless you got one of the big private rooms.[/QUOTE]Nope, no rooms, I wondered into the lounge at 1 am and the place was packed. Let's just say it has to do with these Freelancers jujitsu techniques that pressure you to pay for their stimulants and drinks and taxi fees, anyway, I still had a fun time plus I don't need the stimulant myself, liquor shots would do nicely for me, but man, I would not know if I want to venture into the area myself anymore without a wingman.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2271522]So true. Back in the old days of Tanamur, it was a popular game for the girls to try to find white expat boys around 14 or 15 years old who were virgins. The girls would brag about how many virgins they did. Not many guys that age were at Tanamur, so the girls would go to the McDonalds in Sarinah and pick them up there then return to Tanamur after having sex with them. LOL.[/QUOTE]Many regions have a wives tale about deflowering a virgin boy being a powerful jamu for clear skin. Can't remember the exact areas but many girls have repeated the same story to me.
Perhaps that's why several Nannys have been busted providing special tuition to groups of kids at the International Schools. . . 😁.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2271526]Nope, no rooms, I wondered into the lounge at 1 am and the place was packed. Let's just say it has to do with these Freelancers jujitsu techniques that pressure you to pay for their stimulants and drinks and taxi fees, anyway, I still had a fun time plus I don't need the stimulant myself, liquor shots would do nicely for me, but man, I would not know if I want to venture into the area myself anymore without a wingman.[/QUOTE]That makes sense. How much is one of those stimulants these days? I hear they are now quite expensive.
The main thing about that place is you need to watch your wallet. There are lots of pick pockets there, and even though the place is huge, it gets packed. Asshole pick pockets will take advantage of how packed it is and will brush up against you acting like they are dancing. And do not trust anyone to buy you a drink. Buy your own bottle of water and open it yourself. It's a common scam there for guys (mainly Arabs and Malaysians) to act friendly then slip a roofy into your drink, take you to a private room and rob you. I haven't heard of locals doing that, but I wouldn't put it past them.
I agree, you likely need a wingman if you go there. I've gone alone in the past, but I speak Indonesian and I do not do drugs so I am always clear minded. The last few times I went there have been when a guy needed an Indonesian speaking wingman so I helped out. I have a buddy I took there who still says the girl he met there the night we went was the best sex he ever had. He did not pay her for sex that night, but he didn't get off without spending money.
It's a place where you can meet young University students out partying for the night and those girls will go home with you. But you have to be willing to stay there until the late late hours.
Sounds to me like you had a good time!
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2271520]Wow, what a night, I have mongered all over the world but man, this place here in Jakarta can be what I call the sharkiest place in the world. And this place is called the Golden Crown. I am not sure if I am in the right state of mind to write out the narratives of what I had experienced, but I was lucky enough to have a local patron navigate me through this labyrinth of shark infested freelancers.
I would try to narrate my experience later as I am still way too drunk to explain what had happened. Based on my estimate, it was a good USD400 lessons learned. No wonder I do not see any foreigners at the golden crown, LOL. One thing I can say, this lounge was the only place which was packed with people of a Tuesday night. My recommendation, stay as far was from Golden Crown as possible and stick to CJ and BATS for the freelancers, hehe. You have been warned.[/QUOTE]I am glad you survived! I was thinkingbof going there on Saturday but I would have been solo so probably a good idea not to.
I can't wait to hear the details. I hope for 400 bucks youbat least got laid.