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[QUOTE=MikeMark;2933148]Aside from the entry fee, what is the "tip" the girls are looking for once you're in the room?

Are the shops a better option?

Only going to be in Tokyo for a total of 6 days on the front and back end of a Thailand visit. Not looking to be cheap charlie. Not at all. But if I spend would like to get fair value and not get hosed.

Totally agree with your Japanese girls in US Korean run establishments. Many early 20's good looking Japanese girls with do an hour of BBFS in NYC for $500 all I'm. With MSOG.[/QUOTE]In my limited experience, soaplands will always give you FS for whatever price paid, no matter if you paid 18 k (cheap) or 90 k (too much) to enter. Yoshiwara is weird and separates it into two separate fees, a bathing fee (the shop) and a service fee (the girl) - so you might see a sign that says 22 k or 44 k but suddenly with service and gaijin tax it balloons to some stupid number.

But generally every other soapland is all-inclusive one price. So I got FS every time at soapland even though I paid 18 k ($117) or 22 k.

It is delivery health where you need to tip, because it is completely between you and the girl. Same with a stripper, it's up to her the tip and if she even offers (at DH some girls don't), so I've heard 1-3 man. The shop doesn't know, doesn't want to know, and will be pissed if you even try to bring it up with them. Any time you negotiate the girl, she is obliged to say "don't tell the shop" Exactly the same situation as strippers that fuck in the VIP. The strip club manager does NOT want to know and every girl says her own rate. It's hilarious because over time I learned the girls don't even know each other's rate.

But delivery health is far inferior to what you get in the US with kgirl agencies, so if you have access to that don't bother. Jgirls in the US are way better value for simple FS. I only go soapland because it is a unique experience and service in itself. The closest thing in the US is nuru but that's not half of it.

Thailand is of course even better value unless you are set on jgirls. You even get to 'interview' them in bars and pay the bar fine for whoever you like. What I would actually recommend in Japan are cheap and unique shops like oppai pubs where the girls are pretty much always young and attractive. There are HJ and BJ bars, those are 100% legal and generally cheap, but with any language barrier your choices are limited. And in my experience only a few have really cute girls. Most do not for weird reason. Stick with Japanese-run shops they will give you the best service.

As I mentioned, you are going during a ridiculously hot season. The good news is oppai pubs tend to open 6pm/8pm to 12pm/1am in Shinjuku. The bad news is you will miss your last train if you stay til close and aren't staying nearby. So just sample after dinner and see if you like. Fridays and Saturdays are nice days for Roppongi clubbing and people watching. The Shinjuku Manzoku information booth will direct you to legit places like oppai pubs and sexy cabarets, probably Luxe if you only speak English.

Or you can close your eyes and get serial blowjobs by 2-3 probably middle-aged women in a row, but it's just not my thing no matter how wild that sounds. I walked by that place three times but couldn't bring myself to go in. Instead, I went to what I think was called Super Angel, a sexy cabaret where you point at a girl by number and she shows up to you, hops on, and off you go (variant of oppai pub). Main reason I didn't go more is Super Angel was mostly Chinese and SE girls, though they all spoke Japanese and it was Japanese run. I prefer 100% Japanese girls, yes sir.

[QUOTE=Haikuzo;2933204]Also I am interested to know how the situation is around sex intercourse, I mean vaginal penetration. It looks to be illegal in Japan but maybe girl will do? Have I to ask?[/QUOTE]Gambling is also illegal in Japan. But there are 7000+ pachinko parlors in Japan in plain sight. I went in and won $200 with beginners luck. To sum it up it's gambling. The pachinko parlor cannot give you any money. Yet somehow I turned those balls I won into real money at some back alley shop next door that had "nothing to do" with the pachinko parler. This random shop by coincidence was desperately trying to buy credits that pachinko balls will buy. Gee. Not gambling right. This system is 100% effective at stopping law enforcement in Japan by the way, because nobody cares about pachinko.

Pachinko is a legal fiction. So is soapland. Soapland started as "assisted bathing" for older men who could not wash themselves. In the same way that Pachinko is not gambling.

Not every DH girl does fs. Every soapland girl does.

Like gambling, soliciting for FS is illegal in Japan. So you pay soapland for money had the staff have "no idea" what goes on, they just run a timer and ask if you are happy after. Yet every girl fucks.

Or delivery health where you pick a girl and take her to a love hotel and you are paying her to suck you only. And yes, some girls only suck dick. But if you vibe with the girl your chances are much higher. They are there to make money and maybe meet a new regular they can add on line for freelance. YMMV.

The DH shop emphasizes that FS is totally illegal and it is absolutely not allowed. If it is hotel health they might even put a ton of stickers on the wall saying 'fs prostitution is illegal' over and over like wallpaper. But oh by the way this girl allows anal on their official menu, and you wonder if maybe for a tip she might have you miss the hole. There are zero other witnesses anyways. Do not discuss with anyone but the girl and nobody cares.

[QUOTE=TravelerX;2933358]Not every DH girl does fs. Every soapland girl does.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.

[QUOTE=TravelerX;2933352]In my limited experience, soaplands will always give you FS for whatever price paid, no matter if you paid 18 k (cheap) or 90 k (too much) to enter. Yoshiwara is weird and separates it into two separate fees, a bathing fee (the shop) and a service fee (the girl) - so you might see a sign that says 22 k or 44 k but suddenly with service and gaijin tax it balloons to some stupid number.

But generally every other soapland is all-inclusive one price. So I got FS every time at soapland even though I paid 18 k ($117) or 22 k.

It is delivery health where you need to tip, because it is completely between you and the girl. Same with a stripper, it's up to her the tip and if she even offers (at DH some girls don't), so I've heard 1-3 man. The shop doesn't know, doesn't want to know, and will be pissed if you even try to bring it up with them. Any time you negotiate the girl, she is obliged to say "don't tell the shop" Exactly the same situation as strippers that fuck in the VIP. The strip club manager does NOT want to know and every girl says her own rate. It's hilarious because over time I learned the girls don't even know each other's rate.

But delivery health is far inferior to what you get in the US with kgirl agencies, so if you have access to that don't bother. Jgirls in the US are way better value for simple FS. I only go soapland because it is a unique experience and service in itself. The closest thing in the US is nuru but that's not half of it.

Thailand is of course even better value unless you are set on jgirls. You even get to 'interview' them in bars and pay the bar fine for whoever you like. What I would actually recommend in Japan are cheap and unique shops like oppai pubs where the girls are pretty much always young and attractive. There are HJ and BJ bars, those are 100% legal and generally cheap, but with any language barrier your choices are limited. And in my experience only a few have really cute girls. Most do not for weird reason. Stick with Japanese-run shops they will give you the best service.

As I mentioned, you are going during a ridiculously hot season. The good news is oppai pubs tend to open 6pm/8pm to 12pm/1am in Shinjuku. The bad news is you will miss your last train if you stay til close and aren't staying nearby. So just sample after dinner and see if you like. Fridays and Saturdays are nice days for Roppongi clubbing and people watching. The Shinjuku Manzoku information booth will direct you to legit places like oppai pubs and sexy cabarets, probably Luxe if you only speak English.

Or you can close your eyes and get serial blowjobs by 2-3 probably middle-aged women in a row, but it's just not my thing no matter how wild that sounds. I walked by that place three times but couldn't bring myself to go in. Instead, I went to what I think was called Super Angel, a sexy cabaret where you point at a girl by number and she shows up to you, hops on, and off you go (variant of oppai pub). Main reason I didn't go more is Super Angel was mostly Chinese and SE girls, though they all spoke Japanese and it was Japanese run. I prefer 100% Japanese girls, yes sir.[/QUOTE]I disagree that all delivery Health are all inferior. Like anything not all K shops are good. There are quite a few delivery health shops where you'll get the girlfriend experience. There's also a few that provide Full service. Notice I say provide full service not offer it there is a subtle difference. The catch is most of those are Japanese language only. So there not available to most foreigners. I have had a friend introduce introduce me to one of them.

The true barrier for most of us is the Japanese language. If you can speak the Japanese language everything gets easier. Plus Japan is the land of hidden Gems. Things that are available but never talked about. I was with my Japanese buddy in a drinking area one time. He talked to one of hawkers. The guy explained with this delivery health if you get 120 minutes or higher the girl will give you full service guaranteed. So full-service was available if certain options were picked. The problem is it does change from shop to shop.

Hell there is 100000 yen all night girlfriend service. 100000 which is about 700 give or take. The girl is yours for the night you want to eat drink the fuck all night or just go fuck she's yours for the night. The problem again is language barrier. It's Japanese speaking only. Sometimes it just takes time and friends. For those of you visiting it isn't the best but if your going to be where awhile it's great.

The reason most of us who live here won't do by name reviews as much. If I blast out and say this girl does full service. It has been known to get back to the store and the girl lose her Job. Happened to one of the fee girls I reviewed by name. Guy went tried to get full service she didn't like him so she denied it. So he contacted the shop and told them they had to let her go because there was a report of Full service.

The move for most of us who live here is see the girls via the store get there contact information. See them outside of the store with no rules. As of right now I have 5 keepers and least 10 others girls on call I can contact when I want to have fun.

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2933422]Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.[/QUOTE]Yeah you got the okie doke they set that up specifically to get a easy thing for there girl. If you ever go to a soapland and in "english" it says no full service get out it's a ganjin trap. Most soaplands will not ever mention anything sexual outright because it's just a bath house. Having anything sexual there would be illegal. Your just being bathed by a beautiful naked Japanese girl which is non sexual of course. The girls have taken to using twitter to advertise they have a list of rules for posting. Can't show condoms or anything resemblanling a bed in the picture. Honestly it sounds like you went to some massage place not a soapland.

All the good soaplands have emergency procedures in case of police inspections / raid. To get rid of all the condoms so they can't be tied to sex. In fact one of the main Job for the tencho is to delay the police long enough for the staff to warn all the girls and hide or ditch the condoms.

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Hell there is 100000 yen all night girlfriend service. 100000 which is about 700 give or take. The girl is yours for the night you want to eat drink the fuck all night or just go fuck she's yours for the night. The problem again is language barrier. It's Japanese speaking only. Sometimes it just takes time and friends. For those of you visiting it isn't the best but if your going to be where awhile it's great.

...[/QUOTE]Greetings. I have contributed field report to this and other forums.

Could you provide info or a link or a PM regarding the all night girlfriend service?

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2933422]Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.[/QUOTE]There are no Soaplands in Ueno, NYNY is a fashion health which is a incall version of a delivery health service.

This location is displaying on my Tik Tok feed with someone doing a walk about and with a lot of really attractive girls just hanging out looking for business. I realise some of these with the placards are canvassing for all kinds of venues but the rest seem to be freelancers. Is this a genuine thing in Shinjuku and worth doing, despits some of the reports below guarding against them?

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2933583]This location is displaying on my Tik Tok feed with someone doing a walk about and with a lot of really attractive girls just hanging out looking for business. I realise some of these with the placards are canvassing for all kinds of venues but the rest seem to be freelancers. Is this a genuine thing in Shinjuku and worth doing, despits some of the reports below guarding against them?[/QUOTE]This is true but so many scams and underage girls and finally language barrier. It's honestly not worth the hassle to mess around with. If you speak pretty good Japanese it's worth a shot. If your going up to use Google translate good luck.

[QUOTE=MikeMark;2931885]On my way in a few weeks for my first Tokyo visit ever. Been diligently reading the board over the past month or so. Recently came across this Vice Article:

[URL]https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3vb7j/how-japans-secretive-soapland-brothels-operate\[/URL]

As someone who is always skeptical / critical of anything read on the internet, especially sites like Vice. Is there any truth to this article?

My primay concern is regarding pricing at the Soaplands in Yoshiwara. From reading the article if it isn't hyped. Getting laid at a Soapland could run you $700-1000 if my math is correct. Can anyone comment on this especially pricing at specific Soaplands in Yoshiwara.

Any assistance and advice is sincerely appreciated![/QUOTE]I went to a few soaplands and getting laid was more like 150 $. But the only name I remember of soapys is club39.

There was no negotiating for FS or talk about FS. It just happened, or I just did it. Either way, I was prepared to be stopped, but it didn't happen (at the soapy).

And I got to experience the stool and nuru and whole shebang.

In a couple I made appointment with the girl over X and others I just showed up at the soapland.

The girls said they hadn't met many foreigners and seemed nervous and exited to see one, so that was kinda cute.

For me, 700 $ for an hour is quite insane price, even for delivery health. At most I spent 220 $/ h for deliveryhealth and that was with some options I wanted to try and min 2 h.

But yes, I've seen deliverystores that ask 100 k JPY / 700 $ for an hour.

See some different prices here:

[URL]https://eroticguide.tokyo/category/brothel-soapland/[/URL]

[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1311/shop-list/[/URL]

I'm new to Tokyo and I've been doing my research here in the forum. I've learned about soaplands, pink salons, massage places, etc, but one thing I still can't figure out.

Near subway stations, in areas where workers go for after work drinks, you can see these places with a sign outside showing pictures of girls and often girls outside trying to bring in customers.

What kind of places are these exactly?

Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?

I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.

[QUOTE=JackWarlock;2933832]Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?

I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.[/QUOTE]LOL are you looking or vaginal sex or raw. If its hard to find vaginal how hard do you think it will be to find raw.

[QUOTE=JackWarlock;2933832]I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.[/QUOTE]It is not included when you book, because it is illegal. What happens when you are in private with the girl may be negotiable with her.

Hey guys,

I signed up to this forum to ask some questions about visiting the Philippines, but I figured I'd post in this thread to let you guys know that I live and work in Tokyo. For a long time I worked part-time in the nightlife of Kabukicho. Frankly I was doing some shady shit. Point is I know basically all the businesses in Shinjuku and many of my good friends are the girls who worked in the water business so if you have any questions at all I'd be happy to give my two cents.