German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2310330]Well, yours is not certified unless you return it to Switzerland to be serviced by a certified Rolex shop at least every 3 years when you come to visit the Sauna Clubs. One of the things most of the ladies who discuss wanting a Rolex with me don't realize, along with the fact that the watch loses nearly 50% of it's value on day one out of the shop, and the models change very little over the years. The only good part is that they keep that initial depreciated value unless they are damaged. Buying a used certified one is not a bad choice like buying a new one.[/QUOTE]I avoid mentioning the model I got due to anonymity, but there are some models that goes up in value. I bought mine in year 2001 when I was 21 (that is age you become legally adult in Japan) for 8000 CHF and now it is valued at around 25000 to 30000 CHF in Tokyo like around 3 million yen.

Personally, I hate most Rolex, I am more for Audemars Piguet, but there are few models that I like from Rolex because it is limited and the value keep on going up. I never rarely buy expensive things that do not go up in value, well I try to, the same reason why I do not want to marry as women tend to age and become less beautiful.

Plus, I live in Tokyo. Do you know that it is one of top 5 best shopping place in the whole world? Google our shops, we got among the best official brand shops in the world that out stand other cities, I can just service it here at official dealer and they send it back to Switzerland for service with jewelry post service that is insured and you are bit wrong in this as well because also for vintage watches, it is better to service it in Japan due to quality of engineering for vintage watches and cars, we got more official parts and better engineer for certain vintage stuffs because due to our culture of quality and also as a consumer we buy a lot of vintage high end product as we tend to like art a lot and vintage products are in area of art than just materialism.

I answered this since you brought it up, but all this is another story to mongering. What we were discussing before was not about stupid service for watch or stupid watch itself, but we were discussing why girls in FKK do not use money they get in FKK as stepping stone for their life, but they spend not just part, but most of the hard money they make on watches, bags, car or some other stupid things etc. They do not realized that it is limited amount of time they can do this job of prostitution and also it is limited time when they are actually popular as they age and they often age faster in brothel like FKK due to life style. If it is little they spend, I understand, but they spend most of it.

Also relating watch to FKK, I am thinking of buying sport digital watch like suunto or polar for my FKK trip because I tend to think it is better that girls do not see these things on you, then they try to upsell because I have been told staff like but you have money etc. While I am negotiating and I begin to now think that stop watch idea is good idea for session as a guy mentioned earlier.

[QUOTE=Palcon;2309801]How is Dolce Vita and Acapulco Gold? Went to oceans and there was too much upselling would rather go to LR but the LU is crappy during the week.[/QUOTE]I am a regular client at both DV and ACA Gold. At least 10 visits per years at both clubs.

I have visited + 25 clubs in Germany and Austria.

Dolce Vita: Probably best Line-Up in Dusseldorf. For a first-timer you will experience some up-selling, but it is not comparable with Oceans or tourist clubs like Palace, Artemis, etc. When you establish yourself as a regular client and girls recognice you, there will be no more up-selling. At the first visit, tell the girls that you have visited the club 10 times. Good service girls: Kelly, Ina, Mia and Ela.

Aca Gold: is a budget club like Acapulco Velbert. Line-up is lower than LR and especially compared to DV.
But probably among best value for money in Germany if you find the good girls.
For example: Crista, Maya and Melissa (the last one speaks only German). Very good location close to the airport!

Earlier, I had Living Room as my favourite club. But girls do not stay long time at LR and some of my favourite high-performing girls were actually kicked out by management! So every year, I had to find new favourites.
However, LR is a very good club, if you are a first-timer. You can go with any girl and get good service - but this does not guarantee that the chemie bewteen you and her is good.

Both DV and ACA Gold have a higher stability with respect to which girls are present at the club. So if you find some girls you like, probability is higher that you can meet them for several years.

[QUOTE=Fucker2019;2310414]Anytime the governments of this world fuck around with the law and rules and in their infinite wisdom decide to deny or outlaw something that all people want, the only thing that happens is that prices increase.
[/QUOTE]Salaam Fucker. And also pimps play a greater role, telling the girls they are "protecting" them. Once the pimps have a stranglehold over the market, they push prices up more and more. Everything becomes an "extra".

Let's not forget the loss of prestige that the Law in general suffers when there are clearly bad laws that everybody feels a need to get around.

I am currently in a remote corner of Asia where prostitution was decriminalised by an enlightened government around the same time as FKKs became legal. It seemed very promising. The tourism industry in this unknown place began to show signs of life -- mongers will often form the spearhead of a big wave of tourism.

However, five years ago the locals got very jealous of the foreigners coming in. As a result the "Guardians of Public Morality" decided to suppress the industry, despite it being perfectly legal. They told the police that they had free license to steal from both the girls and mongers. The result was predictable: police corruption soared, pimps took over everything, foreign (high quality) WGs left, and tourism went stagnant again.

I think analogies can be drawn between this and the campaign of suppression that began in Germany in 2017.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2310328]The sad thing though and you are right, but with these girls, at one point, I liked to think they are doing this hard job called prostitution in FKK for their blight future, but they are not LOL. Most of them are doing this job for mostly material things or pimp / boyfriend who put her in there or plastic surgeries LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes they love material things as long as they get them for free as presents. I don't think that they really spend their money on expensive brands or doing an expensive life outside the club. Most of them save for other things. Of course there are the super dumb who spend their money as a prostitute to get plastic tits so they look more like a prostitute.

[QUOTE=Bfsie;2308182]

I had two girls from Eastern European country (not Romania), one prayed to God in front of me right before and after the session and the other put a photo of Jesus Christ on her table, claiming he is her boyfriend. But they all fucked like porn stars during the sessions...[/QUOTE]Were they practicing Catholic girls? I love girls who are true Catholics! 😁.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2310582]Were they practicing Catholic girls? I love girls who are true Catholics! 😁.[/QUOTE]A true Catholic will always be trying to rip the condom off you and have BBFS, no matter how much you plead and talk about venereal disease. That is how you know they are the real deal and not just pretending to be religious.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2310568]
I have visited + 25 clubs in Germany and Austria.
[/QUOTE]God bless you for this report! Exactly what I have been searching for a long time. Difficult to extract useful info from the club threads. Too much chit chat unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2310568]Earlier, I had Living Room as my favourite club. But girls do not stay long time at LR and some of my favourite high-performing girls were actually kicked out by management! So every year, I had to find new favourites.[/QUOTE]Concerning the lower lineup at LR during the week, there are still good performing ladies. There are some switch hitters that jump in on the weekends but this is only relevant if your interested in the couple German women or women from other countries that have been there long enough to be nearly German. Most of them are in their 30's, two have lesser service, in my opinion. The best cure for a rotating lineup or getting ladies to work more days of the week is if men go to the club. A problem may be the pace that the club performs maintenance or improves facilities. One of the long time co. Plaints at LR is how much smoke is in the club. This gets even worse when the cigar smoking team comes in. The ladies who work at LR always make me feel welcome and I like the overall environment of the club, except on busy Friday and Saturday nights. Wednesday and Thursday are my two favorite days in the club because I can see the new ladies who are rotating in for the week.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2310572]Yes they love material things as long as they get them for free as presents. I don't think that they really spend their money on expensive brands or doing an expensive life outside the club. Most of them save for other things. Of course there are the super dumb who spend their money as a prostitute to get plastic tits so they look more like a prostitute.[/QUOTE]This plastic tits and other surgeries and inks are like FKK environmental disease that spread around on girls. They usually begin with small tattoo and it spread to other part of body and in some cases they ink their most part of their body. And as for surgery, they usually begin with tit, then lip to give them duck lip, then nose and it may spread to other part and eventually some of them end up looking like a plastic monster.

It is related to time too, longer they spend their life in FKK, above formula kind of begin to settle in on girls.

FKK is not good atmosphere to stay long time and in case of girls, most of them basically live in FKK for quite long period and even their free time after work, they often either live in compound of FKK, same building like Oase, up stairs like in Artemis or separate near by building like palace, but they all live in same building as other colleague girls, so they tend to influence each other and yes quite many of them read this forum LOL.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2310613]Concerning the lower lineup at LR during the week, there are still good performing ladies. There are some switch hitters that jump in on the weekends but this is only relevant if your interested in the couple German women or women from other countries that have been there long enough to be nearly German. Most of them are in their 30's, two have lesser service, in my opinion. The best cure for a rotating lineup or getting ladies to work more days of the week is if men go to the club. A problem may be the pace that the club performs maintenance or improves facilities. One of the long time co. Plaints at LR is how much smoke is in the club. This gets even worse when the cigar smoking team comes in. The ladies who work at LR always make me feel welcome and I like the overall environment of the club, except on busy Friday and Saturday nights. Wednesday and Thursday are my two favorite days in the club because I can see the new ladies who are rotating in for the week.[/QUOTE]Locals and smoke at LR were also big problems for me.

In the winter, there was too much smoke inside with opened windows letting cold winds coming in. I had nowhere to go except for the relax area downstairs.

In the summer, there was no air condition. So rooms became so hot that it was almost impossible to have sex there.

Maintenance and renovation necessary at LR.

And a smoking free lounge, please.

[QUOTE=Bfsie;2308182]I don't think that they go home during religious holidays is because they are religious. If they were really religious, they would not be in this business. I had two girls from Eastern European country (not Romania), one prayed to God in front of me right before and after the session and the other put a photo of Jesus Christ on her table, claiming he is her boyfriend. But they all fucked like porn stars during the sessions...[/QUOTE]I guess relying on religion during hard situation is better than relying on alcohol, drugs or pimp. I wonder what she prayed to god before and after the session, I assume it must got to do with sins including her sins and customers, so you hit two bird with one stone, you got sex and prater included in one session and maybe forgiveness too.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2310582]Were they practicing Catholic girls? I love girls who are true Catholics! 😁.[/QUOTE]Usually they are Orthodox. Well, they usually all more or less believe in similar imaginary thing.

They see Jesus, I see Indica via my legal herbs in Germany LOL!

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2310715]Locals and smoke at LR were also big problems for me.

In the winter, there was too much smoke inside with opened windows letting cold winds coming in. I had nowhere to go except for the relax area downstairs.

In the summer, there was no air condition. So rooms became so hot that it was almost impossible to have sex there.

Maintenance and renovation necessary at LR.

And a smoking free lounge, please.[/QUOTE]These smoke full FKK main bar is actually not popular among girls too because they do not like to wash hair every day with shampoo, many girls like to wash hair with shampoo every other day or every third day or even bit more and these smoke do not allow them to do that, but to wash it every day with shampoo to take the smell of smoke off their hair.

In club like Artemis, one can escape from main bar and locate yourself at stair way to catch girls etc. But in LR, only place I can think of to escape from main bar area to catch girl is. Hmmm maybe sofa front of entrance reception where girls come down from upstairs. , but it is odd place to stay for long time facing reception. At least you can open window in LR during summer and there are many window in main bar in LR, at Artemis. Windows are shut with curtain during summer too, so main bar is filled with smoke with bad ventilation trying to take out the smoke that does not really work.

I used to love palace for being no smoke in main bar due to glass smoking room, but I hear they took it out.

I like oceans for big club when it comes to smoking because there is a glass smoking room there in side by the door to session rooms and also outside smoking room is there too together with out side area, so it is comfy to stay in main bar without smoke.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2310582]Were they practicing Catholic girls? I love girls who are true Catholics! 😁.[/QUOTE]I think the praying one is a Catholic because she made the sign of the cross several times in front of me. I don't know what the other girl's religion is.

[QUOTE=Mr Ho;2310730]I guess relying on religion during hard situation is better than relying on alcohol, drugs or pimp. I wonder what she prayed to god before and after the session, I assume it must got to do with sins including her sins and customers, ...[/QUOTE]
I agree with your assumption except that I don't think she included and cared my sins. LOL.




Following is not related to Gino02 and Mr Ho's posts.

With regards to Rolex watch, it is a misconception or in a less diplomatic word an illusion of the mongers with Rolex that having Rolex watch can somehow impress the WGs. The circumstance in FKK clubs and other sex places is not the circumstance of normal real-life dating in which the girls have potential to get certain percentage of the men's financial assets. The WGs know that they are paid an hourly rate, not certain percentage of a monger's asset, and how much they can get from a monger almost entirely depends on how much the monger likes them and therefore how many total hours he would spend with them, not on the monger's wealth.

I think that instead of working on the next Rolex, mongers should work on their physical appearances and sophistication which can definitely impress the WGs. We here often talk about whether this or that WG is doable. By the same token, mongers should try to be doable in the eyes of most WGs. Whether a monger is doable or not in the eye of a WG makes tremendous difference in terms of the WG's affection and service and decides whether the trend of the monger-WG relationship will be going up or staying flat by the hours he spends with her. So work on physical appearance and sophistication and be doable.

If you are traveling to London, know that prostitution is legal. Just brothels and public solicitation are illegal. The big win is the incall scene in London with absolutely great girls at 200/ HR. Yes more than FKK but that is true almost everywhere. And you know exactly what you will get in the room because it's listed clearly on the website (at least the one I use).

I love the incall because I personally love being with a girl in HER room. You are having sex in the same bed she will sleep in later that night! It just seems very intimate. Here are quick notes on a few girls I've seen recently and why you might choose one of the other. Bear in mind my taste runs to petite Romanian girls with dark eyes and dark hair. They are all on [URL]www.divaescort.com[/URL] and look as good or better than their pictures.

Talita - If you like skinny girls, she is a great choice. Not true GFE in the sense of emotional connection and kissing was very light. But solid BBBJ and CIM and takes direction well. Looks like her pics a bit exotic / mid eastern. Nice flat.

Kendall - Killer optics. And if you are a tit man, she is the one. Full natural Dee cups on a slim frame. Black hair to her ass. Solid service and very chill vibe. Amazing flat in nice part of town.

Rivetta - If BBBJ is your thing, she is the one. The best BBBJ I've ever had. Pretty girl. Dynamite smile. Very accommodating and really strong service. Tiny little adequate flat.

Fortune - If optics is key for you, she is the one. Unbelievable face and smile. Great large Bee cup tits and an ass that could launch a thousand ships. Solid service but light kissing. But OMG the optics. And a great bubbly personality. Flat lobby is dicey but bedroom is fine.

Cambria - If simulating a real girlfriend is your thing, she is the one. True GFE not just in services but in emotional connection. Deep meaningful DFK (YMMV) And unlike some girls who politely sip, she will party with you and kill a bottle of wine. Super fun and hot! Nice enough clean flat she shares with two equally hot roommates. So if you need a duo.

Recommend Kendall. Neutral on Talita (skinny not my thing). Strongest recommend for Rivetta, Cambria, and Fortune.

Anyways hope this is useful to some of my FKK buddies as you travel the world.