Jakarta

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2273150]East Asians who visited these FKKs always always go for the blondes who are slim. [/QUOTE]I think for most of the world, men prefer blue eyed blondes over any type of girl. Not all guys, but the majority. As far as Asians selecting those blondes when they have a chance in a P4 P situation, I think that's mainly because they don't have a chance of having sex with a girl like that without paying for it (or at least an extremely low chance). Guys like to try girls who aren't easily achieved. Although Asian men will basically never choose a black african girl though even though those are also girls they would not normally be around.

Growing up a white guy in the USA, almost every girlfriend I ever had when I was young was slim, and blonde with blue eyes. (I would have preferred an Anna Nicole Smith type over a slimmer girl, but I only got that lucky once.) I thought they were the best looking girls and I still think that to this day. I had zero interest in Asian or black girls back then even if they threw themselves at me. I would go for a brunette or red head white girl, but always preferred blondes. Even when I very first moved to Jakarta, I had no interest in the local girls the first month and actually looked for blonde expat girls. But after I had sex with a few Indo girls, I liked the fact that they were so easy to get and that they worshipped me and serviced me like a King. It was also a nice change since i had been with all white girls until then. I also went through a phase where I went with almost exclusively black girls for 6 months after that, but I go that out of my system. Nowadays I would choose an Indo over a white blonde girl for sex. Not because I think Indo girls are better looking, I think blonde white girls are still better looking. But an Asian girl will service me while I just lay there. A white girl will want me to do work by going down on them, getting on top, etc. I did enough of that when I was young. Now I just like to lay there and get serviced. I have never been with a blonde, blue eyed prostitute in my life, but my thinking is that they will not provide the same subservient service that the asian girls provide. The hot girls in South America are not as subservient but are more passionate than the Asians so they are also fun. That being said, a westernized asian girl is just as bad as a white girl. Too demanding in bed.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2273192]
But after I had sex with a few Indo girls, I liked the fact that they were so easy to get and that they worshipped me and serviced me like a King. .... A white girl will want me to do work by going down on them, getting on top, etc. I did enough of that when I was young. Now I just like to lay there and get serviced. I have never been with a blonde, blue eyed prostitute in my life, but my thinking is that they will not provide the same subservient service that the asian girls provide. The hot girls in South America are not as subservient but are more passionate than the Asians so they are also fun.[/QUOTE]I remember being asked once by a Romanian girl "Do you want to fuck me or I fuck you? I looked at her strangely at first and wanted to know the difference. She said it means who get to do the work.

I don't know. I have been dating a relatively rich Indo girl, family is in construction and owns a hotel in Jakarta while I have been here. She talked with me about getting married but I keep thinking of this girl I met on her first day at Soi 6, just 18 with a kid already but damn she was just so cute, appreciative and seemed like she would be so loyal. Plus her mom who is about my age, 40's still looks good and they look similar so she would probably age really well. If I were to ever marry I really think she would make me the happiest and I think she would really like it as well but the whole stigma and explaining how we met, the remnants of her past being able to be tracked on social media all give me pause but if I was smart I would just do what makes me happiest and not give a fuck what anybody thinks. Still hard for me to commit to any girl so I probably won't.

It's very rare that I like girls who are not Asian, Hispanic or Persian with Asian being my favorite. So glad that SouthEast Asia is available as a mongering spot but things are changing that is for sure and any of these places could dry up very quickly. Had a little experience in China before things went to shit there for mongering. The culture and attitude of many of the Chinese girls is a turn off so not too big a loss but there were a few sweet girls there. Wish I could have spent time in Vietnam, Cambodia and Burma when thing were really good there. Will probably still try out all three but not expecting things to be great.

So my first trip to Indonesia was pretty good. Got nearly a month in here. Would have liked more time in my room with girls rather than the short time venues but I got a pretty good mix of both along with someone to hang out with for more traditional type dating. Like the variety in body style of girls here. Had some dynamite slender girls like the majority I would find in Thailand but some really sexy thick and stacked girls also. Overall girls were more conservative here. I usually try to get away with as many sex acts as I can and very rarely have a trip that I don't find a girl I can convince or is already into anal but not here. Had two online girls that were willing but they weren't really cute so I passed. Only 4 of the 20 or so girls I had let me cum in their mouth which is drastically lower than in Thailand or PI. Two swallowed. Two rimmed. One liked being slapped. One would let me three finger her ass but not fuck it. Two deep throated. Youngest was 18 just turned nineteen yesterday and the oldest 25. Might still have one coming at 10 pm and another in the morning at 9 am before I leave but I fully expect one or both not to show up as it's happened quite a bit. Thanks to the Jakarta regulars for all the posts and info.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2273127]...............She seems to be loyal to him because she refuses my advances now. He runs some business in Jakarta and has lived here for over 10 years, so he is not traveling back and forth to Korea. They have been married around 10 years now....................[/QUOTE]Making advances on another man's wife while he is away on business. Mongering may not be the most honorable activity but there is still a line to be drawn. You are the scum of the earth!

[QUOTE=TripleX;2273249]She talked with me about getting married but I keep thinking of this girl I met on her first day at Soi 6, [/QUOTE]This is exactly what western minds struggle to comprehend about Asain relationships: it is permissible, even expected, to have your cake and eat it as well. The in laws would not bat an eye lid if you were to marry Princess and quietly have some fun on the side. Just don't let the two worlds over lap.

The rules are very simple: never ever let your games embarrass your wife or her family and always present plausible denial on what you are doing. No one will believe you but all will pretend to.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2273267]The rules are very simple: never ever let your games embarrass your wife or her family and always present plausible denial on what you are doing. No one will believe you but all will pretend to.[/QUOTE]That is the way it used to be in the West before suffragette. The feminist movement has destroyed Western girls and the result is no one in the West is happy anymore. The proof is the so called Western Democracies can't even maintain their populations. Me: I can't wait for the day when I permanently escape and leave this Western cultural wasteland behind.

Does anyone know what the term "kucing taik lalat" means? It translates literally to cat shit fly, but it should mean something colloquially. My girl that accompanied me last night to Basque Bar for dinner commented on the girls who she knows work as freelancers but pretended not to be, or worse angry when implied.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2273275]That is the way it used to be in the West before suffragette. The feminist movement has destroyed Western girls and the result is no one in the West is happy anymore. The proof is the so called Western Democracies can't even maintain their populations. Me: I can't wait for the day when I permanently escape and leave this Western cultural wasteland behind.[/QUOTE]Not sure how many on this forum are under forty, but that's the demographic I represent. By the time I was born, feminism was securely rooted in US culture. Growing up in school, that was just the way it was, there were so many. I had my share, and looking back, I deserve a medal for getting what I did in this society. It took a lot of work telling them what they wanted to hear, never saying the wrong thing, playing the waiting game, or god forbid you have a wandering eye. Then, I started traveling (once I had a chance to save up my pennies), and discovered places like SEA and South America. I remember my first trip to Colombia and saying, "Son of a *****, I was born too late!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2273259]Making advances on another man's wife while he is away on business. Mongering may not be the most honorable activity but there is still a line to be drawn. You are the scum of the earth![/QUOTE]Oh, come on! I can see why Smoothy made a pass. Many of those girls can not resist to get a taste again of their past and go back to the places they used to go as soon as hubby is traveling. Either you are not familiar to that scene or you have reason not to trust someone.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2273284]Does anyone know what the term "kucing taik lalat" means? It translates literally to cat shit fly, but it should mean something colloquially. My girl that accompanied me last night to Basque Bar for dinner commented on the girls who she knows work as freelancers but pretended not to be, or worse angry when implied.[/QUOTE]Well, ¨tai lalat¨ means ¨tache de beaute¨. I don't see how ¨cat¨ fits in.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2273430]Well, tai lalat means tache de beaute. I don't see how cat fits in.[/QUOTE]Tahi Lalat is a mole, so wouldn't that be grain de beaute in French Menteng, sorry my French is pretty rubbish.

I've got a feeling the girl said or meant malu malu kucing tahi lalat. Malu2 kucing is someone who isn't shy but behaves shy and in this case is found attractive with a mole. These are Malay Simpulans (knots?) or idioms.

Probably a dangdut song about this, there is for everything else.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2273427]Oh, come on! I can see why Smoothy made a pass. Many of those girls can not resist to get a taste again of their past and go back to the places they used to go as soon as hubby is traveling. Either you are not familiar to that scene or you have reason not to trust someone.[/QUOTE]It's amazing how insecure even the most beautiful and successful (ex) bar girl is. They require constant attention and compliments and are never satisfied when they have "made it". For many, this takes the form of ongoing affairs outside an otherwise successful marriage or relationships where the flow of "gifts" verify that they are still beautiful.

I guess its understandable when the only asset or ability you have is your ability to draw attention. They often have no other skill set.

The talent at BATS last night was pathetic. There wasn't one girl I would have taken home even for free. Old hags. BATS had an Indonesian band rather than the normal one so maybe that was why. But very disappointing. When I walked out to get a taxi, there was a women who had to be over 50 years old asking me to join her in her taxi. For her to even make that suggestion leads me to believe that at some point some other guy was actually interested in joining her. Give me a break.

I certainly hope that no guy is giving girls like any I saw in BATS last night more than 500 k if they are taking them home. Those type of girls should be paying us.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2273427]Oh, come on! I can see why Smoothy made a pass. Many of those girls can not resist to get a taste again of their past and go back to the places they used to go as soon as hubby is traveling. Either you are not familiar to that scene or you have reason not to trust someone.[/QUOTE]About a year after they were married, she called me and asked me to meet her for short time sex. He wasn't giving her enough spending money so she wanted some side cash. I was nice enough to help her out.

She doesn't seem interested now so he must be supplying her with enough cash these days. Glad to see the marriage working out.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2273544]The talent at BATS last night was pathetic. There wasn't one girl I would have taken home even for free. Old hags. BATS had an Indonesian band rather than the normal one so maybe that was why. But very disappointing. When I walked out to get a taxi, there was a women who had to be over 50 years old asking me to join her in her taxi. For her to even make that suggestion leads me to believe that at some point some other guy was actually interested in joining her. Give me a break.

I certainly hope that no guy is giving girls like any I saw in BATS last night more than 500 k if they are taking them home. Those type of girls should be paying us.[/QUOTE]What a coincidence. I actually planned to go there last night but ended up having a FL come over to my hotel instead. Looks like I did not miss anything.