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[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2591395]Welcome to the Zona. It's a cesspool so it will attract a corresponding audience including unsavory characters. There are lunatics on this board just like there are lunatics in the Zona. Given your pillow case reference, I'll use a movie reference of my own. The tone of your post reminds me of the innocent agent right before Alejandro says, "Welcome to Juarez."[/QUOTE]Not a reference, actually boot camp with the people that fall out of runs and continually fuck up the platoon. The group has to either make the weak link stronger or get rid of them.
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[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2591468]As a fellow vet thank you for you service brother!![/QUOTE]Thanks and sorry for the bitter posts, but when she texted me it fucked up my morning. I felt like grabbing my AKs and just emptying a clip. Deal with it everyday and some days better than others, but should take a break as the chicas are so intense. I thought Thailand was good, but these chicas got me loco.
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2591414]I'll say this and I truly don't believe anyone on this board fits either of these profiles. But given this incident and others, I wanted to voice my thought. Most guys go to the zona for all the right reasons and the right mindset. It's fun. It's not real life. I think there are two types though that are a bit dangerous. I will preface it with this: no chica deserves to be on the receiving end of any violence. Period. So what I am saying in no way absolves these abusive assholes of responsibility. That said, I do think chicas also play a dangerous game at times too.
Type 1: You have the jealous boyfriend type. The type that falls for a girl and believes he's the one. This type probably starts as a normal, fun-seeking visitor. He finds "the one". She plays up the fantasy. Possibly lying to this poor sap. He provides her money over time. We all know the story. He finds out she's lying to him and well, it doesn't end well. Safe to say that this is a worst-case scenario for falling for a girl and definitely a word to the wise.
Type 2: We have some bad dudes in this "hobby". I admit that I don't understand the allure of pain and other kinks in that manner. But I think there's at least a percentage that take pleasure in some dark shit. Why I bring it up? Because there are comments written here often that they are "just putas". I think that mindset is dangerous. They are humans just like you and I. I think where you have a combination of a sick sadist and they have access to less than human putas, well, again, that may not end well.
As I said, I think, and hope, that none of us on these boards fit either description. But I feel awareness is a good thing.[/QUOTE]I am thinking there is more to the story and most likely type 1. I see the chicas with the latest iPhones and designer bags. Not sure who is paying for the items, but definitely not buying it for them. Just buying their time until the next time. Also she mentioned it was one of her friends "clients" from a long time ago. Not sure if the bros lives far away and is sending gifts and then got the wrong impression or what. I guess it is dangerous for us SoCal bros as we just drive down and walk over the border.
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[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2591470]Not a reference, actually boot camp with the people that fall out of runs and continually fuck up the platoon. The group has to either make the weak link stronger or get rid of them.[/QUOTE]So what they did to the fat guy in Full Metal Jacket is based in reality. I figured something is done to those who fuck it up for the rest but the identical big bar of soap in the pillow case method makes me give props to the director for keeping it real in that top 5 movie for me.
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[QUOTE=Garth719;2590872]Now here is where things start to get fucked up. I see Azucena with this guy who is buying her drinks and having a good time. Maybe this was a mistake, but I felt obligated to let this dude know who he was partying with. So I went up to him with her on his lap and told him: "be careful because she scammed me by $200 and didn't put out and I just wanted you to know" he nodded and I walked away.
About 10 min later, I'm sitting down at a table and 3 security guys come over and tell me I need to come with them. Confused, I'm like OK sure. They escort me outside and tell me I have to leave because I'm hassling the girls. I'm like wtf. I've only bought drinks and been polite. I then realize it must be what I said to that dude. I tell the story to the security guys and there like yep that's the reason.
Anyway Tijuana is fucked up and maybe I'm just not cut out for it. I might do a total trip report because there is much more to say, but I wanted to warn others to not make my mistakes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing! To be honest, I think that was a beta male move. You should learn from the lesson and chalk it up to a loss. Also Tijuana is what you make of it. They have other clubs. I have regulars at the others and gems can be found throughout Tijuana. Not sure if she was attracted to you or waiting for you to initiate the move.
I've only had this happen in the US doing an outcall. I paid a young Asian college student $250 probably back in 2011 or 2012 at my hotel. She knew my real name as she "verified" me for her security purposes. Then she proceeded to try and talk to me for 10 min. about her love of college rugby and I asked what else we were going to do and then she said it was for her time. I just politely told her she is free to go. Another time I did an incall in Waikiki and the provider gave ok service, but then the police were waiting in the lobby and said I need to vacate the premises and hotel 86 d me. Not sure for lifetime or years? I was in the military at the time and they had no evidence so just walked away and the providers got 86 d as well.
I have not been taken advantage of in the Zona. I've had times where I didn't get off within the allotted time and or just didn't have chemistry during session and then we just parted ways. When you find ones you have good chemistry with, then try to stick with them and build up a list so one should be in town during your visit. Even then, they may have an off day or myself and it isn't as spectacular as previous sessions, but hey we're all human. Hope you can get back on that horse and if it isn't for you, then plenty of other monger destinations. HK walk ups are fun and so were the Macau saunas. Not sure if they are closed down, but I know my favorite Thailand is slowly dying. They are having riots at the moment.
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2591205]They live in the moment. Americans do forget to stop and smell the roses. There is a lot of negativity on this board over a dollar. We have to appreciate the opportunities and experiences we have. My ex novia would tell me all the time; appreciate what you have. She was the ultimate live in and appreciate the moment.[/QUOTE]There's a joke that I heard a long time ago. An American businessman is spending a month vacation on the beach in Mexico. Every morning he watches a fisherman take his boat out to sea, only to return a few hours later with a small load of fish. In the afternoons walking through town, he sees the fisherman sitting under a tree playing the guitar, or at a cafe drinking with his friends, or in the park playing with his children. One day the businessman approaches the fisherman and asks him why he quits fishing so early just to lounge around town all day. The fisherman asks what else he should do.
"Well," says the businessman, "if you fished all day you could bring back many more fish to sell and make more money. Then you could take that extra money and buy a second boat and pay someone to fish for you. With two boats you'll make even more money and buy more boats. You could have a fleet of boats all catching fish for you to sell to the local cannery. With enough money, you could eventually open your own canning factory. After working thirty or forty years you would be wealthy and could retire. ".
"And then what?" asked the fisherman.
"Well, then you could spend your days playing guitar, drinking with your amigos, and playing with your children. ".
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[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2591546]There's a joke that I heard a long time ago. An American businessman is spending a month vacation on the beach in Mexico. Every morning he watches a fisherman take his boat out to sea, only to return a few hours later with a small load of fish. In the afternoons walking through town, he sees the fisherman sitting under a tree playing the guitar, or at a cafe drinking with his friends, or in the park playing with his children. One day the businessman approaches the fisherman and asks him why he quits fishing so early just to lounge around town all day. The fisherman asks what else he should do.
"Well," says the businessman, "if you fished all day you could bring back many more fish to sell and make more money. Then you could take that extra money and buy a second boat and pay someone to fish for you. With two boats you'll make even more money and buy more boats. You could have a fleet of boats all catching fish for you to sell to the local cannery. With enough money, you could eventually open your own canning factory. After working thirty or forty years you would be wealthy and could retire. ".
"And then what?" asked the fisherman.
"Well, then you could spend your days playing guitar, drinking with your amigos, and playing with your children. ".[/QUOTE]Exactly how I feel like the song, mo money no problems. If you keep expanding the business and add more assets more people and issues come about. Hope to retire by 50 and monger full time like you guys and get Amazon or Home Depot as a renter. We never know how much sand we have left in our hourglass.
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[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2591546]There's a joke that I heard a long time ago. An American businessman is spending a month vacation on the beach in Mexico. Every morning he watches a fisherman take his boat out to sea, only to return a few hours later with a small load of fish. In the afternoons walking through town, he sees the fisherman sitting under a tree playing the guitar, or at a cafe drinking with his friends, or in the park playing with his children. One day the businessman approaches the fisherman and asks him why he quits fishing so early just to lounge around town all day. The fisherman asks what else he should do.
"Well," says the businessman, "if you fished all day you could bring back many more fish to sell and make more money. Then you could take that extra money and buy a second boat and pay someone to fish for you. With two boats you'll make even more money and buy more boats. You could have a fleet of boats all catching fish for you to sell to the local cannery. With enough money, you could eventually open your own canning factory. After working thirty or forty years you would be wealthy and could retire. ".
"And then what?" asked the fisherman.
"Well, then you could spend your days playing guitar, drinking with your amigos, and playing with your children. ".[/QUOTE]I enjoyed reading this.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2591375]Poitive from story is her friend is ok and she is going to research on how to get a visa for U.S. travel.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that!
Nice TR. But WTF? You paid $60 for a cab ride to Rosarito? And $20 for a trip down the street to a restaurant? What kind of taxis are these? OMG!
Next time, for $60, I'll drive you myself in my convertible.
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[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2591471]Thanks and sorry for the bitter posts, but when she texted me it fucked up my morning. I felt like grabbing my AKs and just emptying a clip. Deal with it everyday and some days better than others, but should take a break as the chicas are so intense. I thought Thailand was good, but these chicas got me loco.[/QUOTE]I hear you bro, I starting going to the zona again after a 8 year hiatus in 2017 after my divorce. It was fun at first then a landed a government job in San Diego and I soon found myself going 4 to 6 times a week. I found myself addicted to finding the next hot Chica, (trying to make up for years in a sexless marriage to my ex) I was addicted to not only the sex but the company of beautiful women. At the end I spent alot of money and lost my job from partying too much. I have since recovered and now I don't go much anymore as I live in a different state, but my experiences made me do a lot of reflection into my behavior. It is a not a good idea to love a girl who sleeps with other men for money (they end up breaking your heart), I am not the kind of guy who can handle that, and sex is the most intimate act between two people so most people will become attached eventually if they keep sleeping with the same women, it is human nature. You have to set boundary's and rules for yourself, like no repeating more then 3 times with the same girl before moving on, and realize it is all a fantasy it is a job to them and your not as special as you think you are. If you can't handle that better to not go anymore imo.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan;2591590]Good luck with that!
Nice TR. But WTF? You paid $60 for a cab ride to Rosarito? And $20 for a trip down the street to a restaurant? What kind of taxis are these? OMG!
Next time, for $60, I'll drive you myself in my convertible.[/QUOTE]It was private taxi. Uber back was $12 from Rosarito, but most drivers either didn't pickup the trip or cancelled last minute. I will probably drive next time as well since Ensenada and Rosarito doesn't seem to have as many drivers. A short drive from Poseidon Puerto Nuevo to Rosarito was $15. I didn't mind as I just totalled my raptor after putting bead locks on it and the insurance company paid me $10 k more than I paid for it 3 years ago. I spent $140 on taxis.
I have a stick sports car that I don't think would be good in MX as it is low and I usually have it at triple digits. I might consider bringing my electric car since it would only be Rosarito and Ensenada.
Also not holding my breath on the visa, but some do get it. I met a girl at HK named Calypso and she asked if I was married and she was heading to Vegas. I was like no and no. She was a true Pro and will probably rake in that crazy Vegas money.
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[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2591618]I hear you bro, I starting going to the zona again after a 8 year hiatus in 2017 after my divorce. It was fun at first then a landed a government job in San Diego and I soon found myself going 4 to 6 times a week. I found myself addicted to finding the next hot Chica, (trying to make up for years in a sexless marriage to my ex) I was addicted to not only the sex but the company of beautiful women. At the end I spent alot of money and lost my job from partying too much. I have since recovered and now I don't go much anymore as I live in a different state, but my experiences made me do a lot of reflection into my behavior. It is a not a good idea to love a girl who sleeps with other men for money (they end up breaking your heart), I am not the kind of guy who can handle that, and sex is the most intimate act between two people so most people will become attached eventually if they keep sleeping with the same women, it is human nature. You have to set boundary's and rules for yourself, like no repeating more then 3 times with the same girl before moving on, and realize it is all a fantasy it is a job to them and your not as special as you think you are. If you can't handle that better to not go anymore imo.[/QUOTE]Yeah hear you bro! I was a monger throughout my marriage and still do. Many countries, many beautiful ladies and prefer their company over men. I did too much time with men in the military. Also hard to mentally detach when it gets so intense. I have to step back and collect myself. I'm still processing everything that happened as these chicas are intense. Always down to buy a bottle for another combat vet. We are few and far between and got to stick together. Ex wasn’t bad, but the chicas I’ve met definitely take it to PSE extreme, but probably since they have a ton of experience every night. I like to catch them on their days off so they can decompress and I get more time with them.
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[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2591498]So what they did to the fat guy in Full Metal Jacket is based in reality. I figured something is done to those who fuck it up for the rest but the identical big bar of soap in the pillow case method makes me give props to the director for keeping it real in that top 5 movie for me.[/QUOTE]82nd airborne taped 2 mattresses together and threw a guy off the third floor. Another time I was in staff duty and they were trying to throw a gay guy off the balcony. Shit is crazy in the military.
If you're a fuckup, then you get treated as such, especially in the line / combat units. You are relying on them when you go to battle and someone that can't handle stress back home is definitely going to crack when rounds are being sent down range. One guy was continuously late so we made him wear a big wall clock on his chest and show up in different uniforms every 15min. and walk in a square pattern. Most times they just burn you out by making you do tons of pushups and mountain climbers. If still cant get right, then chaptered out of military.
Always surprised at the whales that work for DHS when crossing the border. It is like they dont even do PT and not sure how they are going to catch anyone. I think they said only 3 out of 10 people would be eligible to join since people are either too obese, cant pass pt test, or medical issues. Wonder how we are going to deal with China? Too many snowflakes that get their feelings hurt in the U.S.
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[QUOTE=Jackie888;2591176]Seems to me that you got even because security would not have booted you out unless she complained. And she likely complaint only if she lost a customer because of you. So chin up my friend.[/QUOTE]How is getting booted from HK getting even? He could have just left it with the manager and let it go. The customer probably just laughed it off if they had chemistry and probably had a good time.
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[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2591388]Too funny your lobster comment. He can just post photos without face or identifying features such as tattoos or prominent birthmarks.[/QUOTE]People can put shit together and then let the chica know I'm airing her dirty laundry to a sex board of complete strangers. I just do this to chronicle my trips so if I get dementia like sleepy joe, then I can hopefully recall the good times. A lot of simps or white knights coming to the rescue I bet. If they feel comfortable to tell their story, then you will be able to piece together who it is.